[12:19] <BluesKaj> Hey  all
[13:44] <bregma> hey ho, perfect weather today
[14:11]  * genii-around makes an industrial urn of life-sustaining coffee!
[14:14] <BluesKaj> hey genii-around  ..java hound :)
[14:14] <genii-around> Hehe, yes
[14:17] <BluesKaj> I have a bone to pick with the Ubuntu chat family value policy
[14:18] <BluesKaj> trhere's some  idiotic nicks allowed here thast don't make sense in a so called family chat.. few curse words are tolerable here but any kind of nick is tolerated ? Where's the sense of family values in the policy here ? Makes no sense to me .
[14:20] <genii-around> BluesKaj: Yesterday in #k there was a fellow with nick of rekcuFniarB .. I was meaning to PM him about it but then real world work got busy and I couldn't log in to the bantracker right away, etc
[14:20] <BluesKaj> if you are gonna call a chat family friendly then "Ieatchildren" is ok as a nick
[14:20] <BluesKaj> ?
[14:22] <BluesKaj> sorry I don't understand that such nick is ok, but  a few curse words that kids hear on the school yrd 50 times a day are banned
[14:24] <BluesKaj> I think this "family values" policy is ass backwards
[14:27] <genii-around> It's one of those policies which is subjective, and enforcing is up to whichever ops are in the channel and their interpretation. I generally don't bother unless I get a complaint or if their nick is outright nasty usually
[14:30] <BluesKaj> one guy actually complimented the guy on his 'cool nick' ..if the policy is to protect from curse words etc , whydoesn't evil. pedophelia, and murderous dsounding nicks apply as well...or does that not fall in realm of political correctness here ?
[14:31] <IdleOne> BluesKaj: you know you can call !ops or join the op channel and let them know about a disturbing/inappropriate nick
[14:33] <BluesKaj> IdleOne, I tried to the first time this character showed up, and i got dumped on for objecting to a nick.."it's just nick,,he doesn't mean anything by it ", was the response. so what was I supposed to do ?
[14:34] <BluesKaj> but oh my goodness if somebody curses in the chat it's practically a hanging offense :)
[14:34] <IdleOne> BluesKaj: like genii-around said it is subjective and up to the op but in #ubuntu if we get a complaint from a user and it is justifiable we will normally ask them to change nick.
[14:34] <BluesKaj> ok , then the next time , I'll object
[14:35] <IdleOne> I agree that a nick like Ieatchildren is not family friendly
[14:35] <BluesKaj> I just hiope the response isn't like the one previous
[14:36] <BluesKaj> IdleOne, it's particularly offensive to us grandfathers
[14:36] <IdleOne> I'll tell you one thing though, you will get a much better response from the ops if you ask nice and explain your reasoning before going off on a 4 paragraph rant :)
[14:36] <BluesKaj> IdleOne, sometimes a rant is needed to get their attention
[14:37] <IdleOne> rants get attention I agree but it probably won't be the type you expect
[14:37] <BluesKaj> you guys certainly came after me for joking in the chat
[14:37] <IdleOne> BluesKaj: and eyt you still keep doing it :)
[14:37] <IdleOne> yet*
[14:38] <BluesKaj> whynot it's not offensive like somethings are ... alittle levity never hurt anyone , when the chat's not busy
[14:39] <IdleOne> simple, a little off topic WILL turn into a lot of off topic real quick.
[14:39] <IdleOne> in here we can go off topic more often because it really is not busy
[14:39] <BluesKaj> uhm ....
[14:40] <IdleOne> but a channel like #ubuntu with 1400+ users and 40 to 50 people talking at any one time would turn to chaos fast
[14:40] <BluesKaj> I quote  " a little levity never hurt anyone , when the chat's not busy" :)
[14:41] <IdleOne> the off topic rule isn't about telling people what they can or can't say, it's about allowing people the chance to get the help they need without distractions
[14:41] <IdleOne> BluesKaj: who decides what not busy is?
[14:42] <IdleOne> my understanding is the ops decide
[14:42] <IdleOne> and we decided that #ubuntu is always busy
[14:42] <IdleOne> so no off topic :)
[14:43]  * genii-around pops in for a sip of coffee then sneaks back to work
[14:43] <IdleOne> genii-around: don't work too hard the boss will expect it all the time
[14:48] <genii-around> IdleOne: I was on vacation for a week, they saved it up for me
[14:49] <IdleOne> really not a vacation if when you come back you have double the work
[14:50] <genii-around> Yup :( But at least I got to go fishing
[14:51] <BluesKaj> I used to dread coming back from vacation or winter holidays because the workload was always double on the first week back.
[16:14] <willwh> hi guys - anyone got experience with awstats?
[16:14] <willwh> I have a bit of a funky log format that I can't get to go :(
[19:13] <txwikinger> Anybody felt the earthquake? I did not!
[19:15] <johanbr> nothing in Montreal either
[19:15] <genii-around> txwikinger: The people here did
[19:16] <genii-around> I felt a small rumble under the floor here. The guys on the top floor ( 5th ) felt it way more, they went online right away and tried to find out what it was.
[19:17] <BluesKaj> not in Norh Ont
[19:18] <BluesKaj> snami on lake Erie !
[19:21] <txwikinger> Interesting.. felt in Montreal but not in SW Ontario
[19:21] <BluesKaj> Indiana felt it ....strange
[19:22] <txwikinger> Ohio felt it too
[19:22] <txwikinger> Make Lake Erie somehow dampened it
[19:22] <txwikinger> s/Make/Maybe/
[19:23] <BluesKaj> lake erie is really shallow , not much water there
[19:24] <johanbr> genii-around, you're in Montreal?
[19:24] <johanbr> I didn't feel anything here at Concordia
[19:25] <BluesKaj> genii's inToronto
[19:25] <johanbr> ahh...
[19:25] <txwikinger> Ah I meant Toronto
[19:25] <johanbr> ahh, alright :)
[19:26] <genii-around> johanbr: I'm in downtown Toronto
[19:27] <johanbr> I heard epicentre was somewhere in Virginia... I guess Toronto is a little closer
[19:27] <txwikinger> Too much news going on at the same time
[19:28] <genii-around> I heard they evacuated the Pentagon
[19:28] <txwikinger> Pentagon should be built to withstand an earthquake.. really ood
[19:28] <txwikinger> odd
[19:29] <genii-around> http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20096161-503544.html
[19:30] <johanbr> even if the building can take it, the average office may not be safe
[19:30] <johanbr> falling shelves etc...
[19:30] <txwikinger> Well.. ideally the building is absorbing the shocks
[19:31] <genii-around> The one we felt here before a few years ago swung the CN Tower back and forth about 15-20 feet at the revolving restaurant level
[19:32] <txwikinger> was that the one near Ottawa?
[19:33]  * txwikinger remembers feeling that in the building, but 2 meters away it could not be felt
[19:33] <johanbr> yikes
[19:34] <genii-around> txwikinger: Not the 2010 one just before G20, the one before that
[19:34] <txwikinger> Goderich had a pretty strong tornado on the weekend
[19:34] <txwikinger> genii-around: I peobably had not been here yet for the one before that
[19:36] <Seven_Six_Two> I saw a pic yesterday in the london paper about the twister.
[19:38] <genii-around> I found the one that rocked the tower, was March 12 2007
[19:40] <genii-around> It was still like 3.7-3.8 when it went through here, epicenter was in Ohio
[19:40] <txwikinger> Yeah. that was before my time here
[19:46] <genii-around> I remember it vividly because I was in the old elevator here with scissor gates, the gates started smacking back and forth. I thought the Rogers Wireless workers installing aerials on the roof had one topple over onto the elevator machine room.
[20:26] <cyphermox> dscassel: ping?