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gnutunhey all; is this an appropriate place to ask about using debuild to create ubuntu packages? should i ask in debian help?01:45
highvoltagegnutun: not in this channel, but there will be many people willing to help in #ubuntu-packaging and #ubuntu-motu01:47
gnutunok thanks highvoltage01:48
highvoltage(it's night time in a lot of europe/us right now so you might want to hang around a bit for a response)01:48
RAOFgnutun: Depending on what your goal is - if it's a PPA or third party deb you want to make, #ubuntu-packaging is the right place.  If you want to get a new package into Ubuntu, or update an existing package, #ubuntu-motu.01:48
gnutunok cool01:48
gnutunthx RAOF, its the former, so ill head over there01:48
pittiGood morning04:55
pittidirecthex: if it has a considerably different name, I'd copy the file, so that it looks better in the UI04:55
fainagood morning04:55
pittiapw: ah, thanks; will upload the udev branch04:55
micahgpitti: so, do you have a minute to chat about Maverick and the final langpack run?05:52
pittimicahg: sure05:53
micahgpitti: ok, so, what do you need from me, just a new Firefox in -proposed?05:53
pittimicahg: yes, that would do; that will also build firefox-locale-XX, right?05:54
micahgpitti: yes05:54
pittimicahg: with more effort I can also prepare the new langpacks against a PPA, but -proposed would be perfect05:54
micahgpitti: ok, so I'm off until Thursday, I can get it built and copied then, so Friday morning you should be able to kick off the translations builds05:55
pittisounds good05:55
micahgthen Monday, I figure I can put out a call for testing for Firefox + rdepends?05:56
pittiyes, it should have plenty of time for building over the weekend05:56
micahgok, that gives us 1 wk in -proposed + 3 weeks in -updates before the next release, should be good05:56
micahgpitti: so, I'm going to build everything in one of the security PPAs, so I can pocket copy the stuff that won't need any changes for 7 to -security w/out needing to rebuild, sound ok?05:58
pittioh, sure05:58
micahgbut that copy won't happen until we release 7 :)05:59
micahgpitti: thanks, will be in touch later in the week then05:59
andy753421Is it too late to get a new package included 11.10? (it was just recently included in debian unstable)06:02
micahgandy753421: you need a freeze exception06:03
micahg!ffe | andy75342106:03
ubottuandy753421: Feature Freeze Exception. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess for the freeze exception process.06:03
andy753421micahg: thanks, are exceptions generally granted? (It looks like I would need to have it all done by the 25th which is the BetaFreeze?)06:09
micahgandy753421: depends on the possible impact on the rest of the archive06:10
micahgandy753421: if minimal, generally yes06:10
andy753421micahg: i don't think there really would be, it's one package plus two dependencies, none of which were previously in ubuntu/debian06:11
andy753421so i don't think it would be likely to break anyting06:11
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dholbachgood morning07:20
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directhexpitti, well, there's a Palm Pre entry, but the HP Pre 3 has a different usb id07:46
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udevbotError: "pilot-in" is not a valid command.07:55
pittismb: <at> pilot in07:55
smbpitti, thanks07:56
pittismb: <at>pilot in07:56
smb@pilot in07:56
pittisorry07:56
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pittiapparently smoser forgot to check out :)07:56
smbpitti, Its just that it seems to slip my memory every time07:56
apwpitti, man you get up early :)  thanks07:59
pittiapw: in fact I got up almost an hour later than usual :)08:00
pittiI slept in a bit, couldn't sleep well last night (way too hot..)08:00
apwpitti, heh, i'll have to start calling you pp (in honour of jj's mad time keeping)08:01
sorenpitti: Is there a heat wave in Germany or are you somewhere else these days?08:02
pittisoren: south Germany, yes08:03
pittiwell, I don't want to complain; until now we had a very cold and wet summer08:03
sorenpitti: Yeah, same here.08:04
sorenpitti: The cold and wet summer, that is. Not the heat wave :)08:04
sorenpitti: It's been a steady 19-20 degrees here for a while.08:04
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ttxit's been a steady 38-40 degrees here for a while.08:33
hdmuellerhi there, could annyone please point me to a channel where to ask questions about packaging ?08:52
tumbleweedhdmueller: #ubuntu-packaging08:53
hdmuellerthanks !08:54
cjwatsonrsalveti: do you know what the right way to fix https://launchpadlibrarian.net/75657935/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-armel.openscenegraph_3.0.0-2ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz is likely to be?08:54
cjwatsonhm, possibly define OSG_GLES2_AVAILABLE on armel, shame it takes forever to build08:57
cjwatsonjbicha: is https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/ubiquity/allow-user-entries-in-PartAdv/+merge/72525 intended to fix bug 831431, by any chance?  it would be nice if you could add a debian/changelog entry09:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 831431 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Cannot manually specify a mount point in the manual partitoner" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83143109:09
jbichacjwatson: thanks, I neglected to look for a bug before finding a fix for it, added the changelog entry09:34
cjwatsonrsalveti: (no rush, I've just removed it for now as investigation suggests that this needs non-trivial porting and I can't imagine it being very important)09:35
cjwatsonjbicha: cool, will review, thanks09:35
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diwichow does one reboot in Ubuntu 11.10?09:58
diwic(from the GUI)09:58
dokoev, good/bad missing replaces09:58
tumbleweeddiwic: button in the shut down dialog09:59
nigelbI'm glad its hapening to a lot more people :)09:59
diwictumbleweed, thanks. This does not seem to work from LightDM though?10:00
evdoko: I'm not seeing it. gstreamer0.10-plugins-good: Replaces: gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad (<< 0.10.22-2ubuntu3)10:07
dokoev: hmm, don't have the log anymore, just had a compiz crash and rebooted. but it was there :/10:09
evdoko: okay, I'll dig into it10:10
evthanks for the heads up10:10
QuintasanEhh. Can anyone tell me if I can stay within borders of USA without a guardian if I am 18 years old?10:13
* Quintasan tried to call his embassy but he infoline is not working10:14
nigelbYou should be. As long as you have a visa. (Obviously I'm not a lawyer)10:15
nigelb*valid visa10:15
tumbleweedQuintasan: I was in the US on my own, >18, <21, without issues, but no clue on the law here10:15
Quintasannigelb: Cool, well, I wonder if I can even schedule a meeting for visa10:15
QuintasanFirst steps involve filling in some documents over the internet10:16
QuintasanBut then you have to call them and schedule a metting with consul.10:16
QuintasanBut guess what, the number is not working10:16
Quintasan:/10:16
tumbleweedQuintasan: check the website. Our US embassy doesn't answer their phones, web only10:17
nigelbQuintasan: you have to pay somewhere in between there10:19
Quintasantumbleweed: Did you get touristic or work-related visa?10:19
nigelbQuintasan: attending a conf?10:19
Quintasannigelb: UDS most likley10:19
QuintasanIf I get sponsorship and visa -_-10:19
nigelbheh10:19
nigelbthe second one is more worrysome.10:20
QuintasanIndeed10:20
* nigelb got visa for Budapest the day before first flight.10:20
tumbleweedQuintasan: work10:20
* Laney wonders where he put the ESTA information10:22
directhexyou can re-print it if you re-log-in10:25
Laneythat requires the number10:25
Laneyah, there's a button10:25
dokoLaney, how much do you care about mono/dlr-languages?10:32
Laneydoko: personally, not so much10:36
Laneydoko: directhex had a look at the new upstream though10:37
dokoahh, ok. if nobody is interested in debian, then I maybe would package ironpython separately again10:37
directhexdoko, it's an easy build from a clean source tree. what's on github is far from clean. basically, someone needs to spin up a distributable tarball - one without chunks of silverlight in it, for example - from there it's an easy xbuild10:38
directhexi don't plan to maintain it without sponsorship10:38
dokodirecthex, join the group ;)10:38
jjardonHi, my oneiric box stop booting today. Seems that lightdm is restarting all the time. CTRL+ALT+Fx doesnt work. Any idea about what can be the problem?10:46
Laneycan someone look at mono.reflection in NEW?11:05
cjwatsonLaney: accepted11:11
Laneycheers11:12
Laneydb4o is the last package for the mono transition, modulo some source and binary removals11:12
Laney:-)11:12
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* directhex is sitting & being twitchy, waiting for touchpad related news11:14
akarshHello everyone...I am new to ubuntu development. I needed some help11:15
akarshany developers here?11:16
jelmerhi akarsh11:17
jelmerakarsh: please ask your question - if there's somebody around who can help they'll reply11:18
akarshhello11:20
akarshi am palnning to start with ubuntu development. I need to know where to start.11:21
jelmerakarsh, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu is a good start11:22
akarshwell i have gone through it i have setup my system with everything also i have stup my launchpad account11:22
akarshi need to know the way forward.11:23
jelmerakarsh: What would you like to work on, what are your skills?11:24
akarshwell i know c,c++,java,python But i would prefer to work on Python.11:24
akarshMainly my intentions are to understand the way linux works by this process. Pleas suggest which way to procede11:25
cjwatsonmost people simply start by finding something that annoys them that they want to fix, fixing it, sending the fix to wherever's appropriate (bug report, upstream mailing list, whatever), and repeating11:26
cjwatsonthere is no master task list from which people will assign you things to work on - it all works much better if you find things that interest you11:27
akarshokay thanks.  I was going through a beginners project11:28
akarsh(Stipple)....can i just start looking into the code and maybe change the code11:28
cjwatsonthat's how it usually works, yes :)11:29
akarshokay cool. thanks for your suggestions. will try to do that.11:30
* cjwatson is pretty sure that e.g. jelmer and me started in completely different places given different interests11:30
cjwatsonremember you can run 'apt-get source' any package name and look at its code11:31
akarshokay...thats a great start. i wanted to know if what i was doing was right. so will start looking into code for starters now. Thanks for you suggestion11:32
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Davieydoko: Can you give back https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/test-rebuild-20110816/+build/2699238 ?  It built fine locally.. :/12:19
dokoDaviey, could you save the build log first?12:20
ahasenackso by convention packaging-only branches have the debian directory with its files, and not just the files directly?12:20
Davieydoko: done, will attach to bug12:20
ahasenacki.e., a packaging-only branch will have "debian/rules", and not just "rules"?12:21
Davieyahasenack: no, packaging-only normally has ./debian/rules12:22
ahasenackDaviey: ok, so "debian/" is included12:22
Davieyahasenack: normally, but note that you cannot currently make it a UDD branch.12:22
ahasenackDaviey: I wonder how that works with nesting in launchpad recipes, i.e., "nest packaging lp:~foo/bar/packaging-only debian"12:23
ahasenackDaviey: would that create "debian/debian/rules"?12:23
dokoDaviey, given back12:23
ahasenackmaybe I need nest-part, hmm12:23
Davieydoko: thanks12:24
Davieyahasenack: yeah, see the nest-part at https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/SourceBuilds/Recipes ?12:27
ahasenackDaviey: ok, thanks12:27
ahasenackDaviey: fwiw, I have been omitting the debian/ directory in my packaging branches, I thought it was superfluous12:28
Davieyahasenack: I think it's a convention rather than a rule.12:31
RawChidHello, anyone here who I can talk to about OneConf?13:05
RawChidI'm looking at the strings of oneconf. And see a lot of sentences don't begin with a  capital. Some of them are shown in --help, and some of them are just "print"  messages.   I think about translating them all Capitalized. What do you think?13:09
RawChidI can contribute by "improving" the original strings if you want.13:10
RawChidI see pitti has done a commit :P13:11
pittito oneconf? I don't remember, and I don't really know anything about it, I'm afraid13:11
pittiah, I might have done a GI fix13:11
seb128ev, can you handle bug #83189713:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 831897 in gst-plugins-good0.10 (Ubuntu) "package gstreamer0.10-plugins-good 0.10.30-1ubuntu5 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstjpegformat.so', which is also in package gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad 0.10.22-2ubuntu3" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83189713:13
seb128?13:13
seb128oneconf> open a bug, didrocks will be back next week13:14
RawChidOkay seb12813:14
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evseb128: yes, will do13:19
seb128ev, thanks13:19
dokoSweetshark, what are you trying to do with libgcc_s.so.1 on armel? the .so file is a linker script, not a symlink13:20
dokolo ...13:20
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Sweetsharkdoko: since we are searching for libgcc_s.so not libgcc_s.so.1 in the system that might be a nonissue.13:51
dokoSweetshark, yes, and apparently you do *copy* the .so, which is wrong13:53
Sweetsharkdoko: how so?13:57
dokoSweetshark, look at the linker script13:57
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dokoSweetshark, see bug #832121, somebody did "cleanup" too much in 3.4.x ;p15:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 832121 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Oneiric) "libreoffice ftbfs on armel" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83212115:56
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Sweetsharkdoko: no, the root cause is a change in our gcc -- elsewhere (RHEL, SUSE) there is no symlink and no filename versioned libgcc file16:04
Sweetsharkdoko: that still worked fine on natty IIRC.16:04
doko(natty)doko@kakadu:~/gcc/4.6$ ls -l /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabi/4.5/ | grep libgcc_s16:08
doko-rw-r--r-- 1 root root     135 Apr  2 20:49 libgcc_s.so16:08
dokolrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      36 Apr  9 13:55 libgcc_s.so.1 -> /lib/arm-linux-gnueabi/libgcc_s.so.116:08
dokoSweetshark, nice try, but please try harder next time ;p16:08
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Sweetsharkdoko: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/bootstrap/commit/?id=aff9db4f58e6cd1015866e169a1a909fd6f3159016:18
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dokoSweetshark, don't see a relevant thing there, but in this case, if libgcc_s.so is a file and *not* a symlink, it should copy the file, and not automagically symlink16:25
dokoSweetshark, and for the powerpc build failure it would be nice to have the command line for the ld call16:26
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SpamapSslangasek: FYI, upstart branch back in sync w/ archive.17:01
slangasekSpamapS: huzzah, thanks :)17:02
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dokoSweetshark, is it intended to build lo with -Os on ix86?17:37
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mdeslaurslangasek: can a amd64 package depend on i386 packages?18:29
infinitymdeslaur: Implicitely, not explicitely.18:30
mdeslaurinfinity: what do you mean by that?18:31
infinitymdeslaur: As in, you can depend on a package that only exists on i386, and it'll work out, but you can't explicitely depend on package:i38618:31
mdeslaurinfinity: hmm...not exactly the answer I wanted18:31
mdeslaurinfinity: so, I need flashplugin-installer to depend on nspluginwrapper on amd64 only18:31
mdeslaurinfinity: so either I get rid of the amd64 package, and figure out a way to have an arch-specific depends18:32
infinitymdeslaur: Which, in turn, depends on nspluginviewer, which is i386 only.18:32
mdeslaurinfinity: or I keep the amd64 package, depend on nspluginwrapper, but need a way to specify :i386 depends18:33
infinityNo you don't...18:33
chrisccoulsonmdeslaur, infinity - that bit seems to work already (ie, installing flashplugin-installer pulls in nspluginwrapper, which pulls in nspluginviewer:i386 and all of it's i386 dependencies)18:34
infinityIf you keep the amd64 package, it depends on nspluginwrapper, and you're done.18:34
infinitychrisccoulson: Indeed.18:34
mdeslaurinfinity: no, because the amd64 package won't pull in all the required i386 libraries18:34
chrisccoulsonwhat's broken is that flashplugin-installer needs to pull in libnss3:i38618:34
chrisccoulson^^infinity18:34
chrisccoulsonthat used to be shipped in ia32-libs18:34
chrisccoulsonand now flash is broken on amd64, because nothing pulls it in18:35
chrisccoulsonwhich i s breaking firefox ;)18:35
infinityPerhaps nspluginviewer needs to depend on libnss3?18:35
chrisccoulsoninfinity, not really. that's technically incorrect, as it doesn't need it18:35
chrisccoulsonthe flash plugin does though18:35
infinityFair enough.18:35
chrisccoulsonflashplugin-installer:i386 does pull it in though18:35
mdeslaurinfinity: any ideas?18:36
infinityWell, then.  flashplugin-amd64 depends flashplugin-installer (>= [version where you stop building it on amd64], nspluginwrapper18:36
infinityAnd then you die a little inside.18:36
infinityAnd try to figure out an upgrade path.18:36
* mdeslaur dies a little inside18:37
mdeslaurideally, the flashplugin-installer package would go away completely, and we would only keep adobe-flashplugin in partner18:38
infinityIdeally, sure.18:39
mdeslaurchrisccoulson: I know! make firefox amd64 depend on nspluginwrapper :P18:39
chrisccoulsonlol18:39
infinityIs there a reason we don't just ship the actual amd64 build of flash?  Just fear of unsupported betas, I guess? :/18:39
chrisccoulsonover my cold hard dead body ;)18:39
chrisccoulson(to firefox depending on nspluginwrapper)18:39
mdeslaurinfinity: it's not updated for security fixes, and I'm pretty sure adobe won't let us redistribute it18:39
infinityFair on both counts.18:39
mdeslaurhopefully they'll ship flash 11 before we release oneiric18:40
infinityBut yeah, given the current wrapper/viewer situation, something evil's going to happen to transition flash to multiarch.18:40
chrisccoulsoni've subscribed you both to bug 83080218:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 830802 in flashplugin-nonfree (Ubuntu Oneiric) "firefox freezes and grays out" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83080218:41
chrisccoulsonthe freezing is a symptom of flash going crazy ;)18:42
infinityI guess if you don't want the above evil situation, you could create a "flashplugin-installer-noreally-we-mean-it-this-time" cause there aren't enough flash packages depending on flash packages already.18:42
infinityThen you can keep -installer on both arches, have both depend on the (i386-only) new package, and make it work.18:43
mdeslaurI need to think about that a minute18:43
mdeslauryou're confusing my feeble brain18:43
mdeslaurinfinity: oh, interesting18:44
infinitymdeslaur: Basically, move the current installer code from -installer to -downloader (or something) and make it i386-only, with correct dependencies.  Then turn -installer (on both arches) into a metapackage that just depends on -downloader and (on amd64) wrapper.18:44
infinitymdeslaur: That gets you a smooth upgrade path on both arches.18:44
mdeslaurinfinity: yes, very interesting...that would do the trick18:45
mdeslaurinfinity: thanks!18:45
micahgmdeslaur: I think slangasek has a test version of the fixed installer with dependencies in his multiarch PPA19:15
mdeslaurmicahg: oh? thanks, I'll go take a look19:16
mdeslaurmicahg: wow, that's a creative way of solving it :P19:20
mdeslaurslangasek: any plans on releasing that package to the archive?19:21
mdeslaurmicahg: thanks for pointing that out, I was about to work on it19:21
infinitymdeslaur: More or less the same as my solution, I guess, but without adding (yet) another package. :)19:25
mdeslaurinfinity: yeah, slightly more twisted, but no extra package19:26
cjwatson#copy-package.py -y -b -s maverick-security --to-suite maverick-updates -e 1.2.11-6+squeeze2build0.10.10.1 wireshark  # maverick-updates: 1.2.11-6+squeeze1build0.10.10.119:54
cjwatson#copy-package.py -y -b -s natty-security --to-suite natty-updates -e 1.1.1-0ubuntu1~11.04.1 icedtea-web  # natty-updates: 1.1~20110420-0ubuntu1.119:54
cjwatsonjdstrand: ^- do you know what should be done with those?  I've been seeing that for a while19:54
jdstrandcjwatson: the former, yes-- it should definitely be copied19:56
jdstrandcjwatson: the latter I will defer to sbeattie. istr a new package needing to be created, but will let him comment19:56
jdstrandcjwatson: I just took care of wireshark19:57
cjwatsonthanks19:57
sbeattieyes, icedtea-web should go to natty-updates.19:57
jdstrandI'm right there19:58
jdstrandI'll do that too19:58
sbeattiejdstrand: thanks!19:58
jdstrandcjwatson: thanks for bringing it up. maybe I should run a similar cron job :)19:58
cjwatsonexcellent, less mail for meeeeeee19:58
jdstrand:)19:58
cjwatson5 * * * *       /home/lp_archive/bin/copy-report 2>/dev/null19:59
cjwatsonFWIW19:59
jdstrandcool, thanks19:59
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statikhey there smoser, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/euca2ools/+bug/826022 doesn't seem to be fixed for me. I added a comment to the bug; any other info I could provide for you?20:14
ubottuUbuntu bug 826022 in euca2ools (Ubuntu) "euca-modify-image-attribute usage raises error" [High,Fix released]20:14
sgnbinfinity: how is ocaml stuff going on?20:15
Davieystatik: confirmed.20:16
smoserstatik, checking20:17
Davieysmoser: I confirmed rev454 upstream fixed it for me, either the archive snapshot is not >454, or upstream reintroduced it.20:17
smoserits probably a freaking quilt issue20:18
infinitysgnb: I was planning to finish it today, but am/was off sick.  Feeling a bit better though, so I might do it anyway. :P20:18
statikDaviey, smoser: thanks for confirming. i didn't flip the bug back to open, don't hesitate to ping me if you want me to test it later20:18
Davieysmoser: debian-changes-2.0.0~bzr464-0ubuntu120:18
smoserits fixed locally20:18
smoseryou just need my version20:19
smosereuca2ools (2.0.0~bzr464-0ubuntu2) UNRELEASED; urgency=low20:19
smoser  * fix bad upload that had patch a debian-changes patch which reverted20:19
smoser    the intended changes20:19
smoser:-(20:19
cr3smoser: a patch of a patch? :)20:20
smoseryeah, bad grammer there (and i fixed that, am uploading now)20:20
Davieyautomatically generating debian-changes-* without a loud warning was not the brightest idea.20:21
DavieyI think doing that has bitten too many peope.20:21
cjwatsondpkg-dev is gradually moving away from that practice I think20:21
cjwatsonthere are at least now options you can set to make it not do that20:21
Davieydave@voodoo:~$ cat ~/.devscripts20:22
DavieyDEBUILD_DPKG_BUILDPACKAGE_OPTS="--source-option=--abort-on-upstream-changes"20:22
smoseryeah, i used to have that... unfortunately i had to diable it at some point i forget why20:23
* smoser adds it back20:23
Laneyat least lintian issues a warning now20:30
seb128Laney, hey20:31
seb128Laney, will you do the tomboy update? ;-)20:31
DavieyLaney: Who looks at lintian warnings anyway?! :)20:32
faina--abort-on-upstream-changes will keep a package from dropping a debian-changes-* into debian/patches/?20:36
Laneyme...20:49
slangasekmdeslaur, infinity: unfortunately, that twisted way of solving it doesn't actually *work*; apt-gets confused and won't let the packages be installed together20:49
slangaseker20:49
slangasekapt gets confused20:49
slangasek:)20:49
Laneyseb128: and yes20:49
seb128Laney, thanks ;-)20:49
Laneymaybe tomorrow, maybe tonight, who knows ...20:49
mdeslaurslangasek: oh, :(20:50
seb128no hurry20:50
Laneybdrung: cody-somerville: dmb vote ping20:52
infinityslangasek: So, my slightly-less-twisted-but-similar method might do the trick better?20:53
slangasekmight, though I'd like to get to the bottom of what apt's thinking20:53
slangasekit just means I'm not going to upload it to the archive yet :)20:54
slangasekwhat was your method?20:54
infinityslangasek: Moving the installer/downloader code to flashplugin-downloader:i386, and making -installer be a metapackage that depends on that, plus in nspluginwrapper on amd64.20:55
infinitys/plus on/plus in/20:55
infinityErr.20:55
infinityI can't brain today.20:55
infinityI have the sick.20:55
infinityslangasek: Pretty much the same/similar idea to yours, but without reusing the old -nonfree packages for nefarious purposes and (I suspect) creating dependency loops that make apt shoot itself.20:57
slangasekinfinity: right.  that should do the job then20:58
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