[04:38] <fmarier> mwhudson: it is indeed a good line. the part about crypto not protecting against the four Bs is pretty good too
[04:41] <mwhudson> i would like a few more citations (like, why shouldn't you use RSA without message padding?)
[04:41] <mwhudson> but it's a good summary
[04:42] <chilts> article/link? sounds interesting
[04:42] <mwhudson> chilts: http://twitter.com/#!/fmarier/status/105855042480898048
[04:43] <chilts> ta
[04:43] <mwhudson> heh
[04:45] <mwhudson> fmarier: nice background :)
[04:48] <chilts> I remember doing a signature with AWS and figuring out aa different message with an identical hash :)
[04:48] <chilts> this was a while ago when they got their api wrong
[04:49] <fmarier> mwhudson: it's a picture I took in seatoun a while back
[04:50] <mwhudson> fmarier: i was going to ask where it was, then i saw the file name :)
[04:50] <mwhudson> (i could tell it was from that part of the world though)
[04:52] <ojwb> i think padding is usually to avoid issues where an attacker can get an input of their choice encrypted
[04:57] <chilts> I'm outta here &
[04:59] <ojwb> 3 minutes early!
[08:06] <ojwb> hmm, they don't seem to make it easy to find what the suggest min spec is
[08:06] <ojwb> or else I'm looking in the wrong places
[08:07] <ojwb> aha - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Server/TechSpecs/1004LTS
[08:08] <ojwb> and there's no such page for natty
[08:08] <ojwb> sigh
[08:10] <ojwb> https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/preparing-to-install.html#id2706724
[08:10] <ojwb> which oddly has lower requirements for 11.04 than 10.04, which I find surprising
[11:11] <ojwb> is anyone else running mythtv and finding it cuts off the ends of programmes recently?  ntpd seems to be running and working, so it doesn't seem to be just the wrong time locally...
[12:49] <hads> ojwb: It will be the broadcasters not sticking to the schedule, they are terrible at it.
[12:49] <hads> You can set a pre/post roll per recording rule.
[12:49] <hads> (and globally but I suggest per-rule)
[12:50] <hads> I'm currently running off an install on a USB stick, installed from an ISO written out to another USB stick, after my SSD died while I'm in Sydney :)
[12:59] <ojwb> hads: yeah, I have a global "record 5 minutes extra"
[12:59] <ojwb> but even that's not been enough in some cases
[12:59] <ojwb> and sometimes stuff abuts on different channels
[12:59] <ojwb> it's a shame there doesn't seem to be a program break signal here
[13:00] <ojwb> UK has that, though they seem to forget to send it depressingly often
[13:10] <hads> ojwb: The global one will stop back to back programs recording. They per-rule one doesn't from memory.
[13:11] <ojwb> hmm, the global one doesn't seem to
[13:11] <ojwb> perhaps I've set something else
[13:11] <hads> Maybe I have it the wrong way around.
[13:11] <ojwb> it currently just starts a minute early and finishes 5 minutes late unless it has to switch to a different multiplex in that extra time
[13:11] <ojwb> or whatever it is I set
[19:39] <ibeardslee> morning
[20:17] <ajmitch> morning
[21:33] <thumper> morning
[21:56] <Atamira> morning
[21:56] <Atamira> tho i feel like its the weekend
[23:34] <mwhudson> morning
[23:59] <hads> Morning