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kirklandRoAkSoAx: you da man!00:06
macrosI'm having trouble getting console input/ouptut for an exec in a pre-start stanza in upstart when using console owner00:10
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josePhoenixHello all00:27
josePhoenixI'm trying to find a secure way to set a password non-interactively00:28
patdk-lapedit the shadow file00:28
josePhoenixThat seems a bit.. dangerous, no?00:28
patdk-lapuse usermod -p00:29
josePhoenixBut that shows the password in the process list (at least for a second or so)00:30
patdk-lapuse ldap or sql pam backend and just update ldap/sql00:31
josePhoenixeh perhaps00:32
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josePhoenixSeems like there should be a way to read a password from a file, or non-interactively from stdin00:33
josePhoenixI guess I can just put it in a file twice and use the < operator00:35
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GanymedeOn an Ubuntu VPS, mysql never restarts when the server is rebooted but lighttpd, postfix, openssh server, and denyhosts start up fine as do cron and syslog. As far as I can tell with sysv-rc-conf and chkconfig, MySQL should be starting on runlevels 2345...but it just doesn't. I have to go in and type sudo service mysql restart manually after each reboot and it works then.02:23
stgraberGanymede: do you know what technology is used by your vps provider?02:25
stgraberGanymede: does /proc/vz exist in your vps?02:26
GanymedeYes, it's OpenVZ and the directory /proc/vz exists.02:26
Ganymedestgraber, ^02:26
stgraberok, so it's normal. I had similar issues with openvz and upstart02:26
GanymedeOkay...good to know it's not me being stupid.02:27
GanymedeI guess I'll just add it into rc.local.02:27
stgraberhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/672849/02:27
stgraberput that in /etc/init/openvz.conf02:27
stgraberthat should simulate a standard boot (well, kind of)02:27
GanymedeVPS is rebooting ATM...02:29
GanymedeSurprised that a CONTAINER takes so long to reboot.02:29
stgraberdepends how old their openvz server is02:31
stgrabernewer openvz has a service that handles the restarts, old one does it with a cronjob02:31
stgraberso it can take up to 5 minutes02:31
GanymedeI currently have something very similar in my /etc/init/openvz.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/672852/02:32
GanymedeIt only doesn't have the emit net-device-up lines.02:32
GanymedeAt the moment, sticking in "start mysql" in /etc/rc.local appears to have done the trick although it's a sloppy hack.02:33
GanymedeOkay, whatever, I guess I'll just leave it at that. K, thx, bye.02:36
ujidNEW WINDOW04:22
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mark33hiya04:58
mark33I'm trying to not use a clear text password in my svn command that is run via php command line - otherwise it ends up as clear text in the sudolog05:00
mark33sudo -u ABC /usr/bin/svn --password 'PASS123' update /www/website/ 2>&105:00
mark33is there a way to not use "PASS123" and use a folder etc instead? (kinda new to this stuff)05:01
jmarsdenmark33: --password "$(cat /path/to/file-with-pw-in-it)"05:04
mark33I'll try that, thanks05:05
jmarsdenYou're welcome.  No guarantees exactly what will be put in the log, but it will get the pw from the file :)05:05
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philipballewI need help setting up noip2 on my server and getting it to run on start up09:48
ersiDaviey: Sounds like a good idea. :-)10:13
ersihggdh: Ping! I'm a newcomer who'd like to get on track with some bugcontrol, and possibly some packaging10:14
Davieyersi: good day sir!10:22
ersiDaviey: Heya :)10:22
ersiGrabbed another New bug by the way10:23
Davieyersi: top banana!]10:25
lynxmanDaviey: good day top honcho :)10:30
uvirtbotNew bug: #831886 in dovecot (main) "Dovecot regression: Evolution quick sync (QRESYNC) not working anymore" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83188610:31
Davieylynxman: hiya10:34
berichi there. I'm having hard time with adding my debs to the installCD. The installer stops and in the logs I see a message saying my package was not found. when I look in /cdrom/dists/extra it is there. and I also have a proper Packages.gz file.10:51
zygahi10:52
zygawho should I talk to with regards to server QA?10:53
sorenDaviey: That'd still be hggdh, right? ^10:54
Davieysoren / zyga: Depends on the nature of the question TBH :)10:55
* soren -> lunch10:56
Davieyhggdh is still favourable to us, but is not tasked specifically with server qa work AIUI.10:56
zygaDaviey: I'm interested in deploying a small ubuntu server image (automatically) to run tests (LAVA)10:56
Davieysoren: have fun munches.10:56
Davieyzyga: sounds good.10:56
zygain general stuff related to automating the installation enough10:56
Davieyzyga: https://launchpad.net/lava-test ?10:57
zygaDaviey: lava-* (dispatcher most likely)10:57
zygaDaviey: lava-test works very well on an existing installation10:57
zygaDaviey: I just want to deploy it automatically in a VM (initally) and on some hardware (eventually)10:58
Davieyzyga: I have no personal experience with lava, sadly.10:58
zygaDaviey: that's okay, I'm working on lava :010:58
Davieyzyga: For the issue you are describing, we use jenkins10:58
DavieyI suspect you want to re-use the code that handles that.10:58
zygaDaviey: I'm interested in deploying ubuntu-server/minumal somehow10:58
zygaDaviey: any links that I could use?10:58
Davieyzyga: hold fire10:59
Davieyzyga: You probably want to fork https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server-iso-testing-dev/ubuntu-server-iso-testing/trunk , and add a lava-test case.11:01
Davieyessentially, preseeding ubuntu-server and running code as defined.11:01
zygaDaviey: excellent, that's what I was looking for11:01
zygaDaviey: thanks!11:01
Davieyzyga: Handles libvirt + generating preseeds + spawning libvirt + running code.11:02
Davieyzyga: I would be interesting in seeing your changes and the end result :)11:02
Davieyzyga: That branch is largely based around recieve instructions from jenkins to fire a test.11:03
zygaDaviey: I'll stay in touch, it could be easier than I though11:03
Davieyzyga: super11:03
zygaDaviey: most likely we'll migrate to lava-dispatcher for invoking the actual tests, not jenkins11:03
zygaDaviey: as that fits closer to the rest of lava11:03
Davieyzyga: oh, totally understand.. I'm hoping to see if i can steal your fork for another project. :)11:05
uvirtbotNew bug: #831907 in vsftpd (main) "Default configuration file refers to nonexistent certificate" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83190711:27
lynxmanany libvirt experts awake? :)11:27
sorenlynxman: Wazzup?11:35
Davieylynxman: You will usually get a better result if you just ask a question... or were you just doing a poll? :)11:40
zulmorning11:45
Davieyzul: hey zul11:45
Davieyzul: Have you sniffed the libvirt in experimental?11:45
zulso libvirt 0.9.4 is in experimental it looks like it has better support for non-intel arches and better lxc support although its missing two features that is in the git tree11:46
Davieyzul: I think it needs to be sniffed to work with openstack, if it looks good - raise a FFe.11:48
DavieyI am concerned about the fact that we are considering a new upstream version of libvirt and qemu this late in the cycle.11:48
Davieyzul: Probably a good idea to test it against hallyn's qemu 0.15 build.. that would help add confidence to that aswell.11:49
zulokies i can do it this afternoon11:52
zulbesides no one uses libvirt/qemu ;)11:53
Davieyzul: hah11:57
Davieyzul: https://launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/+archive/virt/+sourcepub/1883706/+listing-archive-extra11:58
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ersiFFe = Feature Freeze exception?12:07
mdeslaurersi: yes12:07
Davieyersi: Although, to help with confusion it also stands for Final Freeze Exception. So you have to work out what it likely means based on where we are in the cycle.12:09
Daviey*awesome*12:09
ersiAh!12:09
Davieyzul: What are the non-intel arch enrichments btw?12:10
zuldisabling dmidecode basically12:10
Davieyah!12:11
Davieyzul: I'd love for the need for a damn wrapper to go away.. stripping things which don't work from the command line12:11
Daviey(such as isa-serial)12:11
zullibvirt is one big wrapper so you are never going to get rid of the wrapper :)12:17
ogra_Daviey, poke12:17
ogra_I#m just fiddling with preinstalled rootfs tarballs and see that our image publishing code always names files with .tar.gz suffix as "UEC/EC2 tarball", would the server team massively object if i renamed that a bit more generically to i.e. "root filesystem archive" or some such ?12:20
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Davieyogra_: o/12:27
Davieyogra_: Sounds reasonable to me... this is for where?12:28
ogra_cdimage , the script generating the html pages for the images12:28
Davieyogra_: Ie, for cloud-images.ubuntu.com it makes sense for that string to maintain.12:28
Davieyogra_: cloud-images (UEC/EC2 tarbals are never on cdimage unless i am mistaken)12:29
ogra_well, but i guess the publishing code is the same12:29
Davieyogra_: in any case, the UEC string needs to go away12:29
Davieyogra_: Yeah, i think cloud-image is an old snapshot (hence using the old theme)12:30
ogra_let me see if i can make it conditional12:30
Davieyogra_: rocking!  If you are poking that part of code, and making it conditional, changing "UEC/EC2 tarball" -> Cloud Images tarball would be most apreciated.12:30
ogra_i'll ping you about it again, i have to find out how/if the code is shared first12:31
Davieyogra_: I think the code we are using is forked, but it's silly if that is the case.. we should fold back :)12:32
ogra_well, it might be forked but it could as well be a shared codebase, do you have any idea who set all this up ?12:33
ogra_aha, slangasek ...12:35
lynxmansoren: hey, jmp was having some problems with libvirt, if you fancy having a look at it12:36
lynxmanor you zul :)12:36
Davieyogra_: our fork was smoser i believe.12:36
zullynxman: im swamped right now12:36
lynxmanzul: aren't you always :P12:36
zullynxman: its a given12:36
lynxmanzul: indeed :)12:36
smoseri can blame slangasek12:37
lynxmansmoser: hey o/12:38
sorenlynxman: "jmp"?12:38
smoserwe have a version of the cdimages repo on nectarine, which was originally set up by slangasek.12:38
Davieysmoser: We should look at folding back, getting the updated theme for free makes sense :)12:38
smoseri've made necessary changes.12:38
smoserfree != free12:38
Davieysmoser: No such thing as a free free?12:38
lynxmansoren: Jose Plans, a kernel guy12:39
smosermerging a fork isn't "free"12:39
smoserlynxman, hey. whats up?12:39
Davieysmoser: looks to me like a good lesson on why not to fork, but push back upstream? :P12:39
lynxmansmoser: not much, squashing bugs :) you?12:39
ogra_smoser, well, currently i'm only intrested in knowing how my change on cdimage would affect nectarine12:40
smoserogra_, it would not.12:40
ogra_in our tree there desnt seem to be any other cloud related code12:40
smoserat the moment, there is a bzr repo there that a 'bzr pull' doens't pull.12:40
ogra_and i wonder why the bit thats there is there :)12:40
smoserits basically stand alone.12:40
ogra_right, i dont want to break mergeability though12:41
ogra_in case we want to fold them back into one tree at some case12:41
smoserslangasek originally got that code. at the beginning, i wasn't even knowledgable enough to know where it had come from or that I should be maintaining it upstream.12:41
Davieyogra_: Oh, smoser doesn't care about rebasing.. forks rock.12:41
smoserthis is ~ 2 years now.12:41
smoserwe do want to fold them back, yes.12:41
smoserwhat is upstream for cdimages ?12:41
ogra_antimony12:42
smoseri can look to do that merge if necessary. but really, Daviey, on your list of high priority things is a theme of a download website ?12:42
ogra_they are mirrored to launchpad somewhere too12:42
smoserogra_, well, if you would please find that I'll see what I can do12:42
Davieysmoser: Nah, it's not worth wasting time at the moment.. i'm pulling your chain, but the update theme should happen before release.12:43
smoserso to get this fully functional, utlemming or I will need the ability to push to the real upstream and/or request merges and/or break things :)12:44
Davieyhah12:46
ogra_smoser, https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/ubuntu-cdimage/mainline and https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/debian-cd/ubuntu should be the public trees i think (i never use them from LP, so i dont really know)12:48
Davieyogra_ / smoser: Looks like just a mirror12:50
ogra_merge request should go to the ubuntu-cdimage team12:50
hallynapologies everyone for the late meeting notes.  Should be hitting your inboxes right now.  Too late to be useful, but early by government standards.12:59
* hallyn not actually in today, goes back to hiding out12:59
Davieyhallyn: Thanks for doing that!13:03
Davieyzul: That means you are chairing today, right?13:03
zulam i? I did it a while ago didnt i?13:03
Davieyzul: looks like you are next in the pop queue.13:04
zulson of a bitch13:04
ersiDaviey: Looking at bug #831907, would it sound reasonable that it is a bug of Low importance? It only affects users that would turn a specific option (ssl_enable=YES) on, which is off by default if it is not in the configuration file.13:06
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 831907 in vsftpd "Default configuration file refers to nonexistent certificate" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83190713:06
Davieyersi: I would agree that is Low.13:07
ersiDaviey: Ok! I'll add an recommendation :)13:07
hallynzul: yeah, i don't know what happened this last month, i did it just in july (and presumably you next)13:08
hallyni think someone pulled a fast one with the meeting page header13:08
zuli blame moop13:08
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ersiDaviey: If ya' still got it open, feel free to change it's importance :)13:09
hallynzul: if you want to try the debian experimental libvirt i think that should be fine, *except* when i did a 2-minute experiment using yesterday's git HEAD on an already weird VM, it failed configure due to some libxml2 weirdness13:09
Davieyersi: done.13:10
zulcool beans ill try it this afternoon, im still in the process of merging it13:10
hallynzul: i hope you're starting based on my 0.9.3-5 version!  the patch wrangling there was a bear and shouldn't be duplicated :)13:14
zulhallyn: yeppers :)13:17
Davieyhallyn: we enjoy duplicating effort! :)13:21
zulttx: ping13:23
ttxjust a sec13:23
javatexanmorning all13:32
javatexanI have server with (wan) nic and (internal) nic.  I installed ubuntu server 11.04 with kvm.  I have a VM which will act as my firewall, router, etc.  I have VM bridged with wan and internal nic respectively.  Problem is, I only have one dhcp address available from above and with bridging seems to get two, is there a way to setup the wan nic on the host to not grab the dhcp, but still let bridge work?  I tried making fake int13:36
uvirtbotNew bug: #831999 in nova (universe) "Instance not found message poorly formatted" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83199913:37
ttxzul: yes?13:39
zulttx: for jamespage swift change you should have merged it in lp:~openstack-ubuntu-packagers/swift/ubuntu and notlp:~openstack-ubuntu-packagers/ubuntu/oneiric/swift/ubuntu13:40
ttxrha, sigh13:41
ttxwhat do we keep the other one around ?13:41
ttxwhy*13:41
ttxzul: can you fix it ?13:42
zulyep13:42
ttxkewl13:42
zuljust wanted to let you know13:43
ttxzul: thx!13:43
lynxmanzul: the merging of stuff for swift is at best confusing, did the same mistake myself :/13:44
zullynxman: yeah you need a phd for it13:44
RoAkSoAxlol13:45
lynxmanRoAkSoAx: when you want to do your presentation btw? I'm ready for you13:45
RoAkSoAxlynxman: well.... was unable to actually setup the environment yesterday as I ende dup testing ensemble more time than expected due to couple new bugs found13:47
lynxmanRoAkSoAx: lol, alright then, tomorrow?13:47
RoAkSoAxlynxman: yes ;)13:47
lynxmanRoAkSoAx: okay!13:47
RoAkSoAxthanks13:47
RoAkSoAxalright then, I'm gonna finish changes in orchestra today to setup the environment this afternoon13:48
lynxmanRoAkSoAx: godspeed13:48
zulDaviey: whats the bug number for the keystone ffe?13:49
Davieyzul: bug 82868913:50
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 828689 in ubuntu "[FFe] Please package keystone for oneiric." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82868913:51
zulDaviey: thanks..13:52
FlashDeluxehi! does anybody know a good tool for administrating clients in a network (e.g. installing programs, upgrading etc)?13:53
smoserhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/828357/comments/813:54
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 828357 in nova "ephemeral device filesystems should be labeled with 'ephemeralX'" [Wishlist,In progress]13:54
Davieyzul: throw that bad boy in the queue!13:54
zuljust finishing it up13:54
Davieysuper!13:54
Davieyzul: Next week, we probably need to smoke the dashboard love.13:55
smoserthat bit of information cost me $2.2613:55
zulDaviey: its already on my todo list13:55
Davieysmoser: Oh, you'll pay that yourself - or is work paying?13:57
smoserwell i used an old credit card that i found that said 'dave walker' on it.13:57
smoserbut *someone* is going to pay13:57
zullol13:58
lynxmansmoser: eventually13:58
Davieysmoser: super!14:02
uvirtbotNew bug: #832030 in exim4 (main) "Cron error from exim4-base: "run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/exim4-base exited with return code 123"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83203014:11
zulDaviey: keystone and dtest uploaded14:21
Davieyzul: dtest?14:21
zulDaviey: yet another python testing framework14:21
Davieyzul: oh goody!14:23
zulwhee14:24
lynxmanzul: another one? *sigh*14:29
zullynxman: yeah they should standardize14:29
lynxmanzul: for real14:29
zulttx: fixed14:30
SmokeyDhey everyone. I have a server already running with ubuntu server edition. I want to migrate that existing install to a new disk, and in the process, also make that full disk encrypted.15:01
SmokeyDI know how to setup encrypted partitions using luks, but I am not sure about the grub2 part of this. I want to create the new disk with an unencrypted /boot partition15:01
SmokeyDbut all other partitions should be encrypted, so I guess I need to change something in the grub config of the old disk, so it knows that the partition is an encrypted partition, and it should ask for a passphrase during startup15:02
SmokeyDbut I can't find proper docs on what I should do in grub to enable this15:02
SmokeyDI don't want to do a full clean install on the new harddisk, but just want to rsync over the data from the old harddisk, and reinstall grub in the mbr15:03
quesoHow do I setup an apt source to be trusted?15:17
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SmokeyDqueso, is it a repository from ppa.launchpad.net?15:21
SmokeyDqueso, you can lookup add-apt-repository for adding repository's from ppa.launchpad.net, which automatically imports the key for that reporistory, making it trusted15:23
quesoSmokeyD: okay, thanks15:24
lynxmanDaviey: ping15:26
Davieylynxman:15:27
lynxmanDaviey: Working on #822142, proposed a merge for Oneiric but how should I proceed to fix it in Natty?15:28
Davieybug 82214215:28
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 822142 in openvswitch "package openvswitch-controller 1.1.0~pre2.g2.ea763e0e-1ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82214215:28
Davieylynxman: is it an issue in natty?!15:29
lynxmanDaviey: it's marked as such by you ;) thought you checked, I can double check15:29
lynxmanactually the bug initial description comes from natty15:30
Davieylynxman: ah, for some reason off the top of my head i thought it was oneiric only15:30
Davieylynxman: SRU sounds suitable if you can reproduce it.  You know the SRU procedure?15:30
lynxmanDaviey: you have way too many ducks in your head :)15:30
lynxmanDaviey: nope, never did it yet15:31
lynxmanDaviey: If you hold my hand I promise I'll do it nicely :)15:31
Davieylynxman: rocking.15:31
Davieylynxman: You could probably reproduce this in the cloud or vm to confirm you can hit the issue.15:32
Davieylynxman: useful read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates15:32
lynxmanDaviey: cool, will read this right away15:32
lynxmanDaviey: meanwhile the oneiric fix is there for your merging pleasure15:35
Davieylynxman: the most minimal SRU justification should be something like bug 578536 (see the description)15:35
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 578536 in autofs5 "when stopped, automount orphans some mounts" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57853615:35
lynxmanDaviey: brilliant, thanks15:37
Davieylynxman: remember, that if you don't use debcommit, use bzr commit --fixes lp:bugnum15:37
lynxmanDaviey: I'll eventually remember that sometime :/15:38
lynxmanDaviey: thanks!15:38
Davieylynxman: is writtable someone you can issue a writt against?15:39
Davieyerr Weit*15:39
Davieyahh, Writ*15:39
lynxmanDaviey: you => funny15:40
lynxmanDaviey: English is my third language dammit :)15:40
orudieNGEN15:41
lynxmanDaviey: I'll fix that commit message then and do it the proper way15:42
Davieylynxman: hold fire.15:42
lynxmanDaviey: *holding fire*15:42
Davieylynxman: It would make our merge delta smaller with Debian if you directly grab the patch from upstream15:43
Davieylynxman: rather than the extra  comment.15:43
lynxmanDaviey: k :)15:44
orudieNGEN15:44
Davieylynxman: For the changelog, i tend to state what it does, not what the issue was.  Ie, Resolve issue of not being able to FOO, by doing BAR.  Patch courtesy of (Baz | Upstream). (LP: #98797897)15:44
Davieybut that is what i do..15:44
lynxmanDaviey: I want to learn from your best practices so... :)15:45
Davieylynxman: heh15:45
GrueMasterI have some questions for server testing.  Namely iSCSI and (separately) ensemble.15:46
GrueMasterWhat tests do we have that I can try on my own hw?15:47
baggar11GrueMaster: iozone3 package?15:48
GrueMasteriozone for testing which?  iSCSI?15:48
GrueMasterDo we have some documentation on setting up iSCSI host & client?15:49
DavieyGrueMaster: depends 'what' you want to test? throughput?15:49
Daviey!iscsi15:49
GrueMasterI'm testing arm server.15:49
orudieNGEN15:49
lynxmanorudie: NGEN?15:49
DavieyGrueMaster: http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/ServeriSCSIRoot/KVMExample http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/ServeriSCSIRoot are probably good references.15:50
Davieythere may be others.15:50
GrueMasterkvm...sigh.  I'll see if I can work around that.15:51
DavieyGrueMaster: well yeah.. it's not the kvm stuff i am pointing it you to.. it's the ietd stuff.15:51
uvirtbotNew bug: #832111 in nova (universe) "lxc instances never leave 'terminating' after terminate-instances" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83211115:57
Davieymeeting starting in 2 mins in #ubuntu-meeting, all welcome to attend :)e15:58
bkerensaDaviey: What meeting is it?16:02
uvirtbotNew bug: #832123 in lxc (main) "when booting oneiric cloud-images under libvirt, no pty is available" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83212316:02
baggar11GrueMaster: pretty vague on what you want to test. iscsi target or initiator, throughput or cpu utilization, or...16:04
GrueMasterI just need to setup iSCSI on arm.  I would assume both sides of the equation need to be tested.16:05
Davieyutlemming: -> #ubuntu-meetng ?16:05
Davieybkerensa: Ubuntu-server meeting16:05
bkerensaDaviey: Oh ok so not Ubuntu-server-ops meeting :P16:06
Davieybkerensa: There is no such thing. :/16:07
zulsmoser: a newer version of libvirt will make life easier for lxc16:07
smoserzul, oh?16:08
smoseri suspect by that you mean different things will break16:08
Davieychaps this could be in the meeting ;)16:08
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uvirtbotNew bug: #832159 in nova (universe) "lxc: get-console-output does not work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83215916:46
baggar11GrueMaster: iscsi setup should be mostly the same as on x86 hardware16:48
baggar11GrueMaster: althoug I have no experience with arm16:49
GrueMasterYea, looking through the info now.16:49
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hggdh_Daviey: ready when you are16:50
GrueMasterNeed to adjust the testcase info for non-kvm install.  Also, why are we changing the terminology from other server/client nomenclature?  On most everything else, it is host/client or host/target.  On iSCSI, it is target/initiator.16:50
GrueMasterMakes it a bit confusing.16:51
Davieyhggdh_: can we do it on thurs?16:52
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hggdh_Daviey: certainly16:53
SmokeyDhey everyone. If I am running a 32bit ubuntu version, is it possible to change that to a 64bit version without doing a complete fresh install?16:54
ersiGrueMaster: Isn't that "iSCSI-speak"?16:54
GrueMasterersi: I guess.  Seems to be a bit confusing when they refer to the same thing as host/client or host/target.16:55
genii-aroundSmokeyD: possible but not practical. Reinstall is actually easier.16:55
baggar11GrueMaster: as far as I know ubuntu comes packaged with either iscsitarget or tgt for targets and open-iscsi for initiators16:56
GrueMasterWith the world screaming for standards, you'd think we could start with nominclature.16:56
SmokeyDgenii-around, well, my machine has quite a lot of config, so I would then have to copy configuration stuff, remember which packages I had installed, etc16:56
ersiGrueMaster: Heh, sure. Where are you referring to that "we" use iSCSI-speak by the way?16:57
GrueMasterbaggar11: Good to know, but the definition of an iSCSI target is different than say an openssh target.16:57
GrueMasterersi: http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/ServeriSCSIRoot/KVMExample16:57
SmokeyDgenii-around, what would it involve to switch the installation from i386 to amd64? Are there docs on it somewhere?16:57
ersiGrueMaster: Ah.16:58
GrueMasterDo we call an NFS or Samba server a host or a target?16:58
baggar11GrueMaster: I would think that has to do with iscsi dealing with block devices and openssh not16:58
GrueMasterSee the confusion?16:58
baggar11GrueMaster: I didn't create the terminology :)16:59
genii-aroundSmokeyD: I have not found any docs on it. But i did this myself as an experiment once. You change the arch in your apt.conf, dump a list of installed packages then use that to reinstall them all in the new arch16:59
GrueMasterI'm just saying that I am having to work around the different naming conventions.  I am doing multiple arm server tests, and in this instance (especially on a lower caffeine level) it can get confusing when doing iSCSI on one side, and NFS Root on another.17:01
uvirtbotNew bug: #832175 in cloud-init "Doesn't report an error when hostname fails" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83217517:02
GrueMasterThe target should be the target fs on the iSCSI Host.  the initiator is also the Client (diskless) system in my thinking.17:02
GrueMasterAt any rate, I am getting around it.17:02
zygadeded17:03
genii-aroundSmokeyD: You can also just call apt-get with -o APT::Architecture=amd64 as well17:04
SmokeyDgenii-around, ok cool.17:04
SmokeyDI am still considering. maybe I will actualy reinstall the machine from a fresh install17:05
SmokeyDis it easy to restore the installed packages from a previously made dump?17:05
genii-aroundSmokeyD: usually something like dpkg --get-selections  >> filename     and then dpkg --set-selections < filename17:12
SmokeyDgenii-around, cool. Thanks a lot for all the help17:12
genii-aroundSmokeyD: I would still recommend to install fresh however.17:12
SmokeyDge17:12
SmokeyDgenii-around, that is what I am thinking17:12
SmokeyDdo a fresh install and then restore the previously installed packages from a list of packages17:13
genii-aroundSmokeyD: Yes17:13
SmokeyDafter that it would just involve copying the relevant stuff from /etc and data directories from the old installation17:15
SmokeyDgenii-around, thanks for helping17:16
genii-aroundSmokeyD: You're welcome17:17
smbDaviey, zul, FYI just opened bug 83220717:32
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 832207 in xen "HVM guest hangs on block io" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83220717:32
zulsmb:  cool!17:33
RoAkSoAxsmoser:17:34
smbzul, Seems I at least got a usable combination of dump and vmlinux for it. Though evaluating that one takes a bit. And its not really usable as an attachment either... :-P17:35
RoAkSoAxsmoser: ping17:35
utlemmingqemu: hardware error: no boot device found17:36
utlemmingCPU #0:17:36
utlemmingR00=00000000 R01=00000000 R02=00000000 R03=0000000017:36
utlemmingR04=00000000 R05=00000000 R06=00000000 R07=0000000017:36
utlemmingR08=00000000 R09=00000000 R10=00000000 R11=0000000017:36
utlemmingR12=00000000 R13=00000000 R14=00000000 R15=400140a417:36
utlemmingPSR=400001d3 -Z-- A svc3217:36
smoserRoAkSoAx, here17:36
utlemmingqemu: hardware error: no boot device found17:37
utlemmingCPU #0:17:37
utlemmingR00=00000000 R01=00000000 R02=00000000 R03=0000000017:37
utlemmingR04=00000000 R05=00000000 R06=00000000 R07=0000000017:37
utlemmingR08=00000000 R09=00000000 R10=00000000 R11=0000000017:37
utlemmingR12=00000000 R13=00000000 R14=00000000 R15=400140a417:37
utlemmingPSR=400001d3 -Z-- A svc3217:37
Davieysmb: probability of this getting fixed in oneiric?17:40
RoAkSoAxsmoser: so I was looking into running python code on the cobbler snippets and I came to find out that cheetah can import modules and then stuff can be imported in the snippet. So I ended up using re-using your code for orchestra stuff17:40
RoAkSoAxsmoser: by providing a module that can be imported by the snippet and return a late_command17:40
Davieyutlemming: hello!17:40
Daviey!ping17:40
ubottuanother contentless ping... sigh...17:40
smoserRoAkSoAx, oh, interesting.17:42
smoserwhat all are you doing in the snippet now?17:42
utlemmingsmoser: we've been advised to use the OMAP kernel for ARM images and use "beagle" as the machine type. The snippet is what you see when you attempt to invoke qemu.17:44
smoserdid you attempt to provide it with a boot device ?17:45
smoserie, what did you run17:46
utlemmingqemu-system-arm -M beagle -m 512 -append 'root=/dev/mmcblk0 rw mem=512M console=ttyAMA0,115200 rootwait root=/dev/mmcblk0' -drive file=oneiric-server-cloudimg-armel.img,if=sd,cache=writeback --nographic -kernel oneiric-server-cloudimg-armel-vmlinuz-omap17:46
RoAkSoAxsmoser: well I needed to pass keys to the orchestra-clients from the server for rsyslog as we are now using TLS17:48
RoAkSoAxsmoser:  so I had to figure out a way to provide that keys so I though of doing something similar to what was done with ensemble17:49
RoAkSoAxsmoser: but that required to mess up with cobbler, so I while researching found out about the cheetah importing modules on snippets17:49
RoAkSoAxso that's what I'm finishing right now17:49
smoserutlemming, you may need to say "boot=on" and/or -boot c17:49
smoseroh. wait, not -boot c17:49
smoserbut probably boot=on17:50
smoserbut that wont matter. your kernel is not even loading if thats all you're getting17:50
utlemmingyup17:50
RoAkSoAxDaviey: ping17:50
RoAkSoAxDaviey: sorry had to go open the door17:50
utlemmingI've found a whole bunch of stuff that says its looking for some sort of firmware loader17:51
utlemminghttp://balau82.wordpress.com/2010/03/10/u-boot-for-arm-on-qemu/17:51
DavieyRoAkSoAx: o/17:56
RoAkSoAxDaviey: what were you saying ? :)17:56
DavieyRoAkSoAx: my head is melting?17:56
RoAkSoAxDaviey: lol17:57
ersiYippie, my first "Bug management" launchpad karma. :P17:59
DavieyRoAkSoAx: Ah, there are cobbler Fix Committed bugs.. i thought they were wedged on binary NEW queue, is this not the case?18:01
RoAkSoAxDaviey: which ones?18:01
Davieybug #78926618:01
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 789266 in cobbler "Cobbler: Missing yum-utils & other cobbler related utils" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78926618:01
Davieybug #705691 was wishlist, was that achieved?18:02
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 705691 in cobbler "cobbler-web should include a working configuration and a README file detailing the steps necessary" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70569118:02
RoAkSoAxDaviey: cobbler-web already includes a working configuration18:02
RoAkSoAxit has had it for quite a long time18:03
DavieyRoAkSoAx: that is what i thought, the bug is assigned to you - can you update the status as appropriate please?18:03
RoAkSoAxsure18:03
Davieyrocking18:04
RoAkSoAx;)18:05
DavieyIf someone wants to hijack bug 810051 from zul, i don't think he'll mind!18:05
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 810051 in nova "Copyright/legal issues in Nova (from Debian upstream)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81005118:05
Davieyersi: that is GREAT :)18:06
ersiOoh, neat. A bug reporter replied to my comment18:14
Daviey\o/18:14
DavieyHOT bug of the day that someone might want to address: bug #77694518:17
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 776945 in isc-dhcp "Apparmor results in denying operation mknod for isc-dhcp-server " [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77694518:17
Davieysmoser: bug #832123, did you see that as part of openstack - or standalone libvirt?18:22
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 832123 in lxc "when booting oneiric cloud-images under libvirt, no pty is available" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83212318:22
smoserboth18:23
Davieysmoser: awesome, utlemming ^^ did you see that?18:24
Davieysmoser: So that is a regression from last week?18:24
utlemminghummm...looking18:24
smoserDaviey, no.18:24
smoserjust the first that i am able to actually get that far reproducibly18:25
Davieysmoser: ah, ok - stand down utlemming18:26
zulsmoser: can you check to see if /dev/pts gets mounted?18:26
smoserzul, of course it did not18:28
smoserwell, actually it does18:28
smosertwice18:28
smoserand  underneith /dev18:28
zultwice?18:28
smosertwice18:28
zulwha?18:28
smoserhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/673293/18:30
zulweird18:32
smoseryes, wierd.18:33
smoserthis reproduces with ttylinux image. very basic busybox /sbin/init at this point.18:33
smoserits being done by libvirt18:33
smoserhttp://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2011-August/msg00213.html18:34
smoser"           * mount point in the main OS becomes readonly too which si not what"18:35
smoseri'm seeing that too18:35
Davieysmoser: so that would be resolved by using the new libvirt release?18:35
smosershut up18:35
smosers/would be resolved/could possibly be resolved/18:36
smosers/could possibly be resolved/would likely be regressed to the point of not reaching this code/18:36
smoser:)18:36
Davieysmoser: heh18:36
* zul feels vindicated18:37
smoserbut yes, there are 2 cherry picks that by changelogs would seem to apply here.18:37
zulthe mounting of lxc libvirt has been refactored btw18:38
zuler...the mounting of fileystems done by libvirt for lxc has been refactored18:40
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hallynsmoser: (/me sneaks in for one quick comment) danpb did say in email last night that he would look into the libvirt symlink problem we uncovered yesterday18:53
* hallyn disappears back into the shadows18:53
smoserhallyn, :) thanks. i consider that lower priority than the pts issue18:54
hallynnaturally19:00
zulbbl19:19
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philipballewi cant seem to connect to my server from ssh after i attempted to set up a ddyddns cliant on it.20:22
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ersiphilipballew: Do you have any access to it what so ever?20:30
philipballewi have physical accsess for the next few days ersi20:31
ersiWere you able to SSH into it prior to setting up the dyndns client on it?20:32
philipballewersi, i can type ssh philip@philip320:32
philipballew and log in.20:32
philipballewbut not with my ddyns server name20:32
ersiAh. Well, were you able to SSH to the external IP previously? Are you on the same LAN?20:32
philipballewi have never ssh'd from outside my networl20:33
philipballewi am on the same lan now20:33
ersiChanses are that your firewall thinks you're being quite funny, if you're connecting on the LAN - but with the dyndns hostname which is your external IP20:33
genii-aroundProbably thinks you're spoofing20:33
ersiDo you have a machine on the outside, that you can SSH into, and SSH into your dyndns hostname?20:33
ersiyeh20:33
philipballewno i dont. i can always run to starbucks. heres a image bin of my router pf i did20:34
philipballewhttp://imagebin.org/16935820:34
ersiIf you don't, you could give me (in a pm) (or here) the hostname and I could tell you if you're connectable from the outside20:34
ersiphilipballew: It works :)20:35
ersiphilipballew: If you check your logs, you have an login try for user 'ersi'20:35
philipballewwhat did you type that i didnt. send that in a pm20:35
ersiso if you'd run to starbucks, work, a friends house - you will be able to ssh into your machine as long as you have user/pass20:35
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ersiphilipballew: you can't connect while on the same LAN, then you'd have to use the internal "LAN IP"20:36
philipballewwhat do i type when i connect then?20:36
ersiyour dyndns hostname, or the IP (69..)20:36
ersiboth will work :) But when you're on the LAN, you need to use the 192.. one20:37
ersior "philip3"20:37
RoyKhttp://jmckinley.posterous.com/dc-earthquake-devastation20:37
philipballewso ssh philip@philipserver1.no-ip.org  ersi ?20:38
ersiphilipballew: Yeah, that will work when you're not at home :)20:38
philipballewalright. ill go to somewhere and see what i can do!20:39
ersiphilipballew: Enjoy! :)20:40
genii-aroundAs a side note, you may want to use a different port than 22, it is well known20:40
ersiAnd on another side note, make sure you got root logins disabled, and use a ssh-key instead of a password :)20:40
adam_g/win/win 1520:40
adam_gjeez20:40
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RoAkSoAxadam_g: i have the same issue every single day :P20:59
adam_gRoAkSoAx: suppose its better than /lose/lose21:03
RoAkSoAxadam_g: heh21:07
RoAkSoAxadam_g: alright orchestra fixes finally uploaded21:07
RoAkSoAxadam_g: will let it build for a bit and i'll hit the lab21:07
kirklandRoAkSoAx: awesome \o/21:10
RoAkSoAxkirkland: ;)21:12
adam_gRoAkSoAx: cool.21:14
adam_gRoAkSoAx: do you know if orchestra is making use of cobbler-enroll, or is that for the ISO?21:14
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kirklandadam_g: is cobbler-enroll Daviey's thing?21:16
RoAkSoAxkirkland: it is21:17
RoAkSoAxadam_g: haven't test cobbler-enroll though I think he was working on getting it working on the installer21:17
kirklandyeah, i haven't seen it land in oneiric yet21:17
kirklandwe *need* something like that for sure21:18
kirklandbut i doubt it's making 11.1021:18
adam_gyah, i knew it was going there but didn't know if orchestra was going to preseed it or what21:18
kirklandadam_g: check with daviey, but I'm betting that gets deferred for 12.0421:18
kirklandadam_g: and if so we should have a uds session around it21:18
RoAkSoAxindeed21:18
kirklandadam_g: as I have a few ideas how it could work, and I'm sure others do too21:19
RoAkSoAxahhh crap21:20
* RoAkSoAx forgot to re-enable the import of ISO's21:20
adam_gits pretty straight forward, but (AFAIK), its required to be coded in C (or shell?) if its to e included on the CD21:20
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RoAkSoAxadam_g: C21:29
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hggdh_kirkland, adam_g: if I undertood correctly, Daviey still hopes to get it in 11.10. See bug 83149621:40
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 831496 in ubuntu "[FFe] Add cobbler enrollment support to server cd image" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83149621:40
kirklandhggdh_: ah, cool, that's great21:41
kirklandadam_g: ^ I'm outta the loop :-)21:41
hggdh_the only part I could not get done was the postinst integration with d-i... docs sucks there :-(21:41
sorenadam_g: Is this something for the installer? If so, shell should be fine.21:42
hggdh_soren: it is both for the d-i and for normal usage, both packages get built21:43
sorensmoser: Glancing at bug 828211, I'm kind of surprised. In my reading of the code, these calls happen before the clone() call.22:24
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 828211 in libvirt "libvirt lxc should not rely on 'ip' and 'ifconfig' inside container" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82821122:24
sorensmoser: Do you have a specific example of where it happens inside the guest?22:25
sorensmoser: Oh, I see it now. NEver mind.22:31
sorensmoser: Did you consider using ifaceCtrl in src/util/interface.c?22:34
sorensmoser: ...and also sticking the interface-renaming stuff in there and calling it from src/lxc/veth.c?22:35
sorenAnyways, bedtime.22:35
kirklandRoAkSoAx: man, you went on an orchestra bug squashing safari :-)23:07
SpamapSman, I really like that oneiric has quiet turned off.. and plymouth tells you what upstart is up to.23:17
RoAkSoAxkirkland heheh i juet filed the bugs i fixed that i could remember to keep.track of them23:24
DavieySpamapS: Are you able to look at the SRU's attached to bug 578536 please?23:40
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 578536 in autofs5 "when stopped, automount orphans some mounts" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57853623:41
SpamapSDaviey: looking23:41
DavieyNote that there are two Maverick's in unapproved.. the former really wants nacking as it reverts a patch, rather than carries the cherry picked patch from usptream to resolve it23:41
SpamapSAgreed and its been there for > 3 months .. oi23:42
DavieySpamapS: Hey! we can't rush these things.23:42
SpamapSis it not present in natty, or are we just ignoring it for natty?23:43
DavieySpamapS: unknown status regarding natty.23:43
SpamapSThat introduces a regression when upgrading from maverick -> natty23:47
DavieySpamapS: That isn't declared in SRU policy, is it?23:47
SpamapSNo, its just something to consider.23:48
DavieySpamapS: ack23:49
Davieypatches welcome.23:49
Daviey:)23:49
SpamapSDaviey: if nothing else, it needs to be documented in the bug that it most likely does affect natty, at least a New task. I'll add that.23:50
DavieySpamapS: So, i did just add a task.23:50
SpamapSahh well then. :)23:50
DavieyThere is some debate going on at the moment if raising a task if it's unlikely to be addressed should be done or not23:50
DavieyPersonally, i think it should23:50
SpamapSunlikely to be addressed should be Won't Fix then.23:51
RoAkSoAxlifeless: ping23:51
SpamapSDaviey: whats the point of a bug tracking system if we can't use it to keep users quiet^H^H^H^H^Hinformed? ;)23:51
Davieyhah23:52
lifelessRoAkSoAx: hi23:52
DavieyWe don't do a very good job at exposing tasks that are really easy for people to fix, based on stealing patches from other uploads.23:52
RoAkSoAxlifeless: howdy!23:53
RoAkSoAxlifeless: kirkland referred to me as I believe you provided the squid config for orchestra23:53
kirklandRoAkSoAx: sorry, no23:54
kirklandRoAkSoAx: he just provided squid :-)23:54
RoAkSoAxlol/win 2423:54
lifelessRoAkSoAx: I'm a squid upstream :)23:54
RoAkSoAxoh lol23:54
RoAkSoAxlifeless: cool!23:54
lifelessRoAkSoAx: amongst other things. A bit emeritus these days, but still tracking progress.23:54
lifelesshow can I help ?23:54
kirklandlifeless: sorry, RoAkSoAx has a syntax problem, maybe in a squid.conf;  i figured you'd be online this time a day, so I pointed him your way23:55
lifelesskirkland: sure23:55
lifelesscache_dir ufs23:55
lifelessbad idea :)23:55
lifelesscache_dir aufs23:55
lifeless         ^23:55
lifelessthe a is important23:55
deltree_hi everyone, I'm new here23:55
Davieylifeless: Can i take this moment to moan again about squid + ssl support? :)23:56
lifelessDaviey: blame the GPL23:56
lifelessDaviey: or get us a patch for TLS23:56
RoAkSoAxlifeless: this might be just trivial23:56
Davieylifeless: We had this discussion some time ago.. I just wanted to moan again.23:56
lifelessRoAkSoAx: so http_access allow <things>23:56
RoAkSoAxlifeless: but the line "http_access allow lan"23:56
lifelessthe <things> have to be defined above it23:56
lifelessits a 1-pass parser23:56
lifelessyou have no acl line defining the land23:57
lifelesse.g.23:57
RoAkSoAxlifeless: right, so there's no "default" acl called lan23:57
lifelesslocalnet on lines 5 through 723:57
lifelessRoAkSoAx: there are no default acls at all23:57
lifelesswell, I lie slightly, but you *really* don't want to know the truth here ;)23:57
RoAkSoAxlifeless: right so yeah, I should just change from "lan" to "localnet"23:58
lifelessyes23:58
lifelessalso change the ufs to aufs23:58
RoAkSoAxlifeless: awesome!thanks for the help!23:58
lifelesswhy do you have the memory set to 512MB ?23:58
RoAkSoAxlifeless: idk :) kirkland was the one who did the config23:59
lifelesskirkland: ^23:59
RoAkSoAxlifeless: but we were experiencing issues with not being able to cache stuff like the kernel23:59

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