| brousch | snap-l: just finished ep 24 of omc. Slash Dementia is the gem of that episode | 01:29 |
|---|---|---|
| snap-l | Cool. Glad you enjoyed. | 01:30 |
| snap-l | brousch: You didn't like The Dying Wizard? | 01:32 |
| brousch | it was ok | 01:32 |
| snap-l | http://godsoffire.bandcamp.com/album/hanukkah-gone-metal <- I can't wait until December | 01:34 |
| snap-l | No Gelt, No Glory | 01:35 |
| brousch | oy vey | 01:35 |
| === jjesse__ is now known as jjesse | ||
| rick_h_ | this is what I love about aws: http://aws.typepad.com/aws/2011/08/amazon-elasticache-distributed-in-memory-caching.html | 11:31 |
| rick_h_ | always something new, memcache in the cloud | 11:31 |
| Wolfger | snap-l: No gold, no glory??? | 11:38 |
| snap-l | gelt. gelt, not gold. | 11:50 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Yay, now I can harness the full power of PHP in the cloud. ;) | 11:51 |
| brousch | hah, i knew it | 11:56 |
| brousch | i knew you were a closet PHP enthusiast | 11:56 |
| Wolfger | my bad... mistook gelt for geld. | 11:56 |
| snap-l | brousch: http://www.addedbytes.com/blog/if-php-were-british/ | 12:19 |
| snap-l | Were PHP to adopt this, I should be inclined to use it | 12:20 |
| rick_h_ | hah | 12:27 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: psh, I'm going to push it as a way to not need to ramp up a freaking 128gb of ram ec2 instance | 12:27 |
| rick_h_ | shove your crap off to memcache for a bit instead and reduce that damn memory footprint of the app | 12:27 |
| rick_h_ | mmm, thinkpad http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/23/lenovo-thinkpad-tablet | 12:33 |
| brousch | ouch $500. for $500 you could buy 5 touchpads. that's one for each appendage | 12:35 |
| rick_h_ | except you can't find 5 touchpads | 12:35 |
| snap-l | Except that you'd need to make a beowulf cluster of those 5 touchpads to equal the CPU of the Thinkpad. | 12:36 |
| brousch | not true. they operate in parallel since you are using one with each appendage | 12:36 |
| snap-l | Ah, true multitasking | 12:37 |
| brousch | so it's like 1.2GHz quint-core | 12:37 |
| snap-l | Did any of you fools get a Touchpad? | 12:37 |
| brousch | B&N cancelled me | 12:37 |
| snap-l | "No, Ben, No, you really don't need this. Be happy with what you have. Seriously". | 12:38 |
| brousch | something like that | 12:38 |
| brousch | i do like the nook | 12:40 |
| brousch | but at $99 i could justify a tablet for my son | 12:40 |
| snap-l | What's with people giving their kids tablet machines? | 12:41 |
| snap-l | A friend of ours got bored with her iPad and gave it to her 4 year old. | 12:42 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I hear a lot of tablet owners end up not using theirs | 12:42 |
| rick_h_ | personally I'd like one for conferences, etc. Not sure I'd use one around the house daily | 12:43 |
| rick_h_ | but would like something mobile to play with/test apps against | 12:43 |
| rick_h_ | it's webkit, but not the best webkit | 12:43 |
| rick_h_ | still, for $99 it's a test device at min that can surf/etc at a conference | 12:43 |
| Wolfger | snap-l: haven't you seen Serenity? Children of the future do all their schoolwork on tablets. | 12:59 |
| Wolfger | I'm pretty sure that was in ST:TNG as well... | 12:59 |
| Wolfger | so the question is: why *wouldn't* you give you kid a tablet? | 13:00 |
| Wolfger | are you trying to cripple him? | 13:00 |
| Wolfger | are you trying to cripple him? ;-) | 13:00 |
| Wolfger | doh... sorry for the dupe. Stupid keyboard | 13:00 |
| Wolfger | that wouldn't have happened if I had a tablet.... | 13:01 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: I don't go to enough conferences that a tablet would work for my needs. ;) | 13:06 |
| snap-l | though JoDee may claim otherwise (about going to enough conferences. ;) ) | 13:07 |
| Wolfger | JoDee thinks you go to enough conferences to justify getting you a tablet? Awesome. | 13:07 |
| snap-l | Wolfger: On that she also disagrees. ;) | 13:08 |
| snap-l | You all seem to forget that I was an early tablet adopter. :) | 13:08 |
| snap-l | Nokia 770. :) | 13:08 |
| Wolfger | bah. Tablets didn't exist before the iPad. :-D | 13:09 |
| snap-l | And while that was essentially a trumped up Palmtop without any of the productivity software to make such a thing useful, it makes me leery of tablets. | 13:09 |
| snap-l | If the only use-case you can make for the tablet is "surf the internet on the couch", let me be the first to challenge that assertion. ;) | 13:10 |
| snap-l | (Although I still have my eyes on the nook, though I need some confirmation on the PDF reader that my limited testing hasn't fleshed out) | 13:11 |
| snap-l | Nook color, that is | 13:11 |
| snap-l | but, I can understand the technolust. | 13:15 |
| snap-l | Open Metalcast Episode 28, where we learn that the Ozark Harp trumps the accordion: http://ur1.ca/4yejl | 13:15 |
| brousch | snap-l: pdf reader on NC is nice | 13:24 |
| brousch | i use mine mostly for convore, ereader, hootsuite, email so far | 13:25 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: you can't say that until snap-l tries it | 13:33 |
| rick_h_ | he's got the most trying pdfs I've seen | 13:33 |
| brousch | well you can view 1/2 of a letter sized pdf very nicely, or a full letter pdf slightly hard to read | 13:34 |
| rick_h_ | watch out world, just bought an android book | 13:45 |
| brousch | ah, java | 13:47 |
| rick_h_ | *sigh* yea | 13:47 |
| brousch | *cough*phonegap*cough* | 13:47 |
| rick_h_ | can you do android intents with phonegap? | 13:47 |
| rick_h_ | and can you get native widets with phonegap? | 13:48 |
| brousch | https://github.com/phonegap/phonegap-plugins/tree/master/Android/WebIntent | 13:51 |
| brousch | aptana titanium might be better at that stuff | 13:52 |
| brousch | http://developer.appcelerator.com/apidoc/mobile/1.7.1/Titanium.Android.Intent-object | 13:54 |
| rick_h_ | my boss wants me to play around with some mobile stuff more so I'm going to try to see if I can get them to let me play. | 13:55 |
| rick_h_ | might be a bookie android app using the api at some point if I can talk them into it | 13:55 |
| brousch | your biggest pain-point will be using eclipse | 13:56 |
| rick_h_ | yea, that's for sure | 13:56 |
| rick_h_ | thuogh I'm hoping to be able to edit in vim with eclipse int he nexte workspace | 13:56 |
| rick_h_ | at least keep my editing separate from project build/generation/eclipsy things | 13:57 |
| brousch | i think you can | 13:57 |
| rick_h_ | fortunately the laptop has 8gb of ram. I'll just basically find that jvm ram setting and crank it to 11 | 13:57 |
| brousch | though maybe not with titanium | 13:57 |
| rick_h_ | "here eclipse...4gb for you...now stfu" | 13:57 |
| brousch | bah, it doesn't need that much | 13:57 |
| rick_h_ | I'm not going to try to argue with it, consider it a randsom payoff | 13:58 |
| rick_h_ | hell, I'm doing work right now at 877mb of ram | 13:58 |
| rick_h_ | I've got 4gb to spare | 13:58 |
| brousch | heh, i just opened it to check and it still had Bookie open | 13:58 |
| brousch | aparently i haven't used it since then | 13:58 |
| rick_h_ | ? | 13:59 |
| rick_h_ | what's "it"? | 13:59 |
| brousch | eclipse | 13:59 |
| brousch | well, aptana pydev | 14:00 |
| snap-l | I managed to crash rick_h_'s Kindle with one of my PDFs. ;) | 14:07 |
| jrwren | rick_h_++ ElastiCache is awesome. | 14:07 |
| brousch | snap-l: email one to me. i'll try it | 14:07 |
| snap-l | brousch: Do you have access to U1? | 14:09 |
| snap-l | The file is 130MB | 14:09 |
| brousch | i think so | 14:12 |
| snap-l | brousch: Here's one sample: http://ubuntuone.com/p/1CJ0/ | 14:12 |
| snap-l | The other one is syncing as we speak | 14:12 |
| snap-l | I have a few that the Kobo can't deal with either. :) | 14:12 |
| snap-l | sent them to Kobo support, and they shrugged. | 14:12 |
| snap-l | I can't wait to get this printer | 14:15 |
| snap-l | has instructions for how to install your own https certificate on it. :) | 14:15 |
| snap-l | Also can do Internet fax. | 14:16 |
| snap-l | Shit, it even supports LDAP | 14:17 |
| snap-l | Also supports network scanning, which is a huge plus for me. | 14:18 |
| snap-l | Previously had to get out te USB cable to do any scanning | 14:18 |
| snap-l | will also scan to USB stick | 14:18 |
| brousch | rick_h_: heh, Aptana is using 550MB with an empty android project open | 14:21 |
| snap-l | Nice. | 14:22 |
| brousch | it's kind of silly how i got the book to my nook. download from your link, save to dropbox, upload to dropbox, download from dropbox on nook | 14:26 |
| brousch | omg. google voice transcribed a lengthy voicemail exactly right | 14:27 |
| Wolfger | rick_h_: you got the O'R dotd? | 14:42 |
| Wolfger | brousch: no way, I don't believe you. | 14:43 |
| brousch | snap-l: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/101667/screenshot_7.png | 14:44 |
| brousch | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/101667/screenshot_9.png | 14:44 |
| brousch | ss7 is viewing using the Nook Reader, which refused to rotate. You can see the print is tiny and barely readable. | 14:46 |
| brousch | ss9 is using the Adobe Reader app which did rotate. It's viewing half of a page | 14:46 |
| brousch | takes maybe 2 seconds to turn a page | 14:47 |
| brousch | Wolfger: "Good Morning. This is the animal Medical Center calling to remind you we have Terra and Duncanscheduled for grooming Wednesday, August 24th, please check them in between 7:30 at 8:30 AM. Ifyou are unable to keep these appointments. Please call us at 531-7387 before 6:30 PM on Tuesdayevening to avoid a grooming no show fee. Thank you and have a nice day | 14:49 |
| brousch | the squished-together words are just copy and paste artifacts | 14:51 |
| brousch | oh damn, there is one mistake, an "at" instead of an "and" | 14:53 |
| snap-l | brousch: Ah, that's interesting | 14:53 |
| snap-l | I tried the built-in app downloading a preview from e23, and it seemed to reflow the text. | 14:54 |
| snap-l | but if you have access to the Adobe app, that changes things. | 14:54 |
| brousch | PDFs that are text instead of pictures can often be changed in the Nook Reader by changing the font size like a regular ebook | 14:54 |
| snap-l | brousch: Right | 14:54 |
| snap-l | brousch: Can you zoom in with the Adobe reader? | 14:54 |
| snap-l | ie: on the iPhone, I can pinch zoom instead of rotate. | 14:55 |
| brousch | yeah, you can zoom | 14:55 |
| brousch | pinch/spread | 14:55 |
| snap-l | Hmmm... | 14:55 |
| snap-l | (checking to see if the kindle-killer is finished uploading) | 14:56 |
| brousch | i think i had to root to get Adobe Reader | 14:56 |
| snap-l | Ah, OK | 14:56 |
| snap-l | Interesting that you have to root to install an alternate PDF reader. | 14:57 |
| snap-l | It'd be interesting to see if they'll add it as an app download in the future. | 14:58 |
| brousch | their app store is pathetic | 15:00 |
| brousch | 475 apps | 15:00 |
| brousch | also need root for dropbox | 15:03 |
| rick_h_ | Wolfger: what's the "O'R dotd"? | 15:17 |
| rick_h_ | hah, just got two emails about a late payment for my paid off ford | 15:18 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: For the Taurus? | 15:18 |
| rick_h_ | yea | 15:19 |
| rick_h_ | total spam, but cool they knew I had a ford 2006 taurus through ford credit | 15:19 |
| snap-l | You should send Ford Credit the note and tell them that their partners are scum. | 15:20 |
| snap-l | Seriously, that's bullshit. | 15:21 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Let me guess why you bought the Learning Android Book? :) | 15:27 |
| brousch | because android is awesome? | 15:28 |
| snap-l | 50% deal from O'Reilly. ;) | 15:29 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: yea, I went ahead and got it | 15:30 |
| rick_h_ | work has an android book he got from the borders sell off as well | 15:30 |
| rick_h_ | might get to play with it some at work | 15:30 |
| snap-l | Oh, nice. | 15:31 |
| snap-l | Must make sure those laptop fans aren't blocked. ;) | 15:31 |
| snap-l | Fucking U1 | 15:47 |
| rick_h_ | give up... | 15:47 |
| Wolfger | rick_h_: my lazy way of typing O'Reilly Deal Of The Day | 15:47 |
| Wolfger | O'R dotd | 15:48 |
| rick_h_ | Wolfger: ah, gotcha | 15:48 |
| snap-l | I have never seen anything more incapable of dealing with 100+ MB files than U1 | 15:48 |
| rick_h_ | well, I actually got it through amazon. Their kindle price was $2 more, but I can use the cloud reader on it | 15:48 |
| Wolfger | snap-l: Atari 400? ;-) | 15:56 |
| Wolfger | Vic-20 with a datasette | 15:56 |
| Blazeix | hah, one of my friends just contacted Oracle for support. They told him that in order to fix his issue he should use IE6. | 15:57 |
| snap-l | Wolfger: Still white-stallions by comparison | 15:57 |
| Blazeix | that's pretty bold of them. | 15:57 |
| snap-l | Blazeix: Did he tell them to stop living in 1999? | 15:57 |
| snap-l | You know, when Oracle was at it's prime too? :) | 15:58 |
| Wolfger | to fix his issue he should use what is probably the worst browser in the history of mankind? | 15:58 |
| snap-l | Wolfger: With the most expensive database in the history of mankind. ;) | 15:59 |
| snap-l | (discounting IBM, of course) | 15:59 |
| jrwren | did someone say vic20? | 16:08 |
| snap-l | Yep, we're going back | 16:08 |
| jrwren | 1.5 weeks until UBU Global Bug Jam... and xfer of Amiga with 10s of floppies to snap-l | 16:08 |
| snap-l | screw 40 columns. | 16:08 |
| snap-l | jrwren: Woo woo! | 16:09 |
| snap-l | I'll need to bring a big bag | 16:09 |
| snap-l | brousch: http://ubuntuone.com/p/1CKV/ | 16:10 |
| brousch | snap-l: i'll try it after lunch | 16:20 |
| snap-l | Thanks. | 16:20 |
| nullspace | check out this http://comic.naver.com/webtoon/detail.nhn?titleId=350217&no=20&weekday=tue | 16:42 |
| nullspace | I approve of that JS | 16:43 |
| snap-l | http://www.meijer.com/s/big-steals/_/N-5io?CAWELAID=677385714&cmpid=dstue | 16:54 |
| snap-l | brousch: Isn't that the tablet that you purchased prior? | 16:55 |
| brousch | looks like it | 17:25 |
| brousch | snap-l: the problem with that one is the roms are sketchy. you can use an ancient android and have full multimedia, or a newer android rom but lack and graphics acceleration | 17:29 |
| brousch | that was as of 6 months ago | 17:29 |
| brousch | snap-l: that big pdf opens and views fine, but it takes 10s to turn the page | 18:22 |
| _stink_ | anyone else here feel the earthquake? | 18:24 |
| rick_h_ | yea, felt it here | 18:24 |
| rick_h_ | everyone's freaking out | 18:24 |
| _stink_ | haha | 18:24 |
| rick_h_ | but funny that some people right next to me didn't feel it | 18:24 |
| rick_h_ | I thought it was construction tbh | 18:25 |
| rick_h_ | was pretty light | 18:25 |
| _stink_ | we all just stuck our heads out of the offices and said "hey, is that an earthquake?" then went back to work | 18:25 |
| rick_h_ | yea, basically | 18:25 |
| _stink_ | yeah, i just felt some dizziness, mostly | 18:25 |
| brousch | we have earthquakes all day long thanks to the car shredder next door. i would never know if we had a real one | 18:25 |
| _stink_ | hah | 18:25 |
| rick_h_ | I've got family in VA so checking in on them | 18:25 |
| rick_h_ | http://xkcd.com/723/ | 18:26 |
| Blazeix | thank god I'm not going insane. nobody else in my building felt it. | 18:27 |
| _stink_ | haha | 18:27 |
| rick_h_ | damn I love this livereload | 18:28 |
| rick_h_ | my boss is all "but it's ruby..." it's awesome! | 18:28 |
| snap-l | OK, Thank you... I thought it was an earthquake | 18:29 |
| brousch | what's livereload? | 18:31 |
| rick_h_ | https://github.com/mockko/livereload | 18:32 |
| brousch | ah, nice | 18:32 |
| Blazeix | it seems like that could be a bash script, rather than ruby | 18:38 |
| rick_h_ | probably | 18:40 |
| rick_h_ | but it imlpements a server side that the chrome extension talks to | 18:40 |
| rick_h_ | probably easier to write that in ruby, ionotify bits and all | 18:40 |
| snap-l | Anyone have an idea what I'm doing wrong here? | 19:26 |
| snap-l | In [1]: from BeautifulSoup import BeautifulStoneSoup | 19:26 |
| snap-l | --------------------------------------------------------------------------- | 19:26 |
| snap-l | ImportError Traceback (most recent call last) | 19:26 |
| snap-l | /home/craig/<ipython-input-1-c4715e218eee> in <module>() | 19:26 |
| snap-l | (soaptest)craig@lister:~$ pip install BeautifulSoup | 19:26 |
| snap-l | Requirement already satisfied (use --upgrade to upgrade): BeautifulSoup in ./.virtualenvs/soaptest/lib/python2.7/site-packages | 19:26 |
| snap-l | ----> 1 from BeautifulSoup import BeautifulStoneSoup | 19:27 |
| snap-l | (soaptest)craig@lister:~$ which ipython | 19:27 |
| snap-l | /home/craig/.virtualenvs/soaptest/bin/ipython | 19:27 |
| rick_h_ | pastebin pls. try just "import BeautifulSoup" | 19:30 |
| rick_h_ | does that pass? | 19:30 |
| snap-l | No | 19:30 |
| rick_h_ | what about bypassing ipython, just python? | 19:31 |
| snap-l | ImportError: No module named BeautifulSoup | 19:31 |
| snap-l | That's from regular python | 19:31 |
| rick_h_ | python -m "import BeautifulSoup" | 19:31 |
| rick_h_ | which pip | 19:32 |
| rick_h_ | pip uninstall BeautifulSoup | 19:32 |
| rick_h_ | pip install BeautifulSoup | 19:32 |
| snap-l | http://paste.mitechie.com/show/387/ | 19:33 |
| rick_h_ | which pip points to /home/craig/.virtualenvs/soaptest/bin/ ? | 19:34 |
| rick_h_ | no idea I guess | 19:34 |
| snap-l | Even creating a new environment doesn't appear to work. | 19:34 |
| rick_h_ | I mean you can verify that the python is in the right place, that the site-packages dir has the BeautifulSoup package | 19:34 |
| snap-l | http://paste.mitechie.com/show/388/ | 19:35 |
| snap-l | http://superuser.com/questions/325177/beautifulsoup-not-found-after-installing-via-pip <- Apparehtly I'm not the only one. :) | 19:35 |
| snap-l | What a pain | 19:36 |
| brousch | snap-l: i just made a virtualenv and it fals for me too | 19:37 |
| snap-l | brousch: Yeah, apparently 4.0b is borked. | 19:37 |
| brousch | heh | 19:37 |
| snap-l | Althought 3.2.0 isn't giving me any more love. | 19:37 |
| snap-l | Ah, there is goes. | 19:38 |
| snap-l | Thanks! | 19:40 |
| snap-l | http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/103178/how-to-handle-can-you-add-just-a-few-more-fields-type-of-requests-from-customer | 19:40 |
| rick_h_ | did you reactivate the venv? | 19:53 |
| rick_h_ | I have had that, where I install something and it's not picked up until I reactivate the venv | 19:53 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: I tried that as well. It appears that version is just not working the same | 19:54 |
| rick_h_ | hmm, a rename of hte package? is it cap'd the same in the site-pacakges dir? | 19:54 |
| rick_h_ | meh, I can't imagine it'd do that | 19:54 |
| snap-l | I just installed 3.2.0 and I'm happy | 19:54 |
| rick_h_ | cool | 19:57 |
| brousch | ug, running titanium studio + android emulator used like 1.5GB of ram | 20:38 |
| nullspace | besides the apple hate, why android? | 20:43 |
| brousch | nullspace: what else is there? | 20:47 |
| nullspace | iOS | 20:47 |
| brousch | but we hate apple | 20:47 |
| brousch | you have to own an apple to dev for iOS, and then you have to kneal before jobs so he will bless your app | 20:48 |
| nullspace | true that is annoying, I do like that I can just run an java app on it | 20:48 |
| brousch | the whole thing is locked into evil | 20:49 |
| snap-l | brousch speaks truth | 20:51 |
| brousch | i'll take uglier and clunkier, thank you | 20:51 |
| brousch | snap-l: did you see my report on your big pdf on the nook color? | 20:53 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I did | 20:53 |
| snap-l | That's to be expected, but glad it works. | 20:53 |
| brousch | heh, 10s page turns are expected? | 20:53 |
| snap-l | That is one of the biggest bastards | 20:53 |
| snap-l | Yeah, it's a complicated PDF | 20:53 |
| snap-l | Take a careful look at it on the page. | 20:54 |
| brousch | i zoomed in and it took 20s to redraw | 20:54 |
| snap-l | Sweaty. | 22:25 |
| rick_h_ | nullspace: java > objective C, a lang you can only really use on apple hardware | 23:29 |
| rick_h_ | android > ios because I can easily side load/deploy tablets with it | 23:30 |
| rick_h_ | android > ios because I don't have to own a mac to dev for it | 23:30 |
| rick_h_ | android > ios goes on and on | 23:30 |
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