[06:10] So i have a question. [06:11] ive got 7 installed [06:11] but i want to experiment with Ubuntu. [06:11] is there anyway i can do this without having to format my HDD? [06:13] major_sp00n: yes, just install it, and tell it to adjust the size of your hdd [06:14] the installer has the ability to do that... but I think you need to run some windows disk utility first... defrag? [06:14] * superfly is out of touch with windows [06:39] ullo :) [06:40] hi [06:40] major_sp00n here. thanks superfly ill give it a shot [06:40] yay, flying today, back on thursday, and then I finally get to spend 2 or 3 weeks at home in the country [06:41] Turtle_neck: it's actually possible to install Ubuntu inside of windows [06:41] Turtle_neck: I think you have to tell the installer not to do automatic partitioning, but I last did a dual install years ago [06:41] Squirm: yes, but you end up with major issues [06:41] and gf arrives in south africa on friday (or saturday, not 100% confirmed) [06:41] yay :) [06:41] wubi [06:41] Squirm: yes, and every time you update grub, wubi bombs out [06:41] superfly: I never had a problem when I did it, I think Ubuntu doesn't load grub [06:41] oh [06:42] Squirm: i.e. every time you update your kernel, boom [06:42] Squirm: too many stories from people, I rather direct people to proper dual booting - less issues [06:42] hmm, there's also Virtual PC [06:43] *VirtualBox [06:43] no... Virtual PC [06:43] http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=4580 [06:43] but yes, essentially it's VirtualBox for windows [06:43] Squirm: VirtualBox... www.virtualbox.org [06:43] Squirm: VB works on Windows and OS X too, not just Ubuntu [06:44] hmmmm. :P [06:44] I knew that [06:44] * Squirm whistles innocently [06:44] AND, it's open source [06:44] Squirm: http://www.omaregan.com/?p=598 [06:45] February 6th, 2010 [06:45] ^^ [06:45] but I'm not going to stand up for wubi [06:45] Squirm: it's not the only one [06:50] im trying to avoid the use of virtual box's. my ram struggles as is. so, u reckon i should just back up all important stuff on teh drive and then attempt an in-windows ubuntu install? [06:51] lo superfly [06:52] Turtle_neck: from what Superfly told me, no. you're better of maybe trying to create a seperate partition, like he said [06:52] hiya Symmetria [06:52] :P someone go do this trip for me [06:52] I dont wanna go :P [06:52] Morning [06:52] and id have to do that in a live-instance i.e booting from UbuntuCD [06:53] i thought that creating partitions with an OS on the drive just causes issues? [06:55] hi Symmetria [06:55] Turtle_neck: no, Ubuntu will partition for you, just make sure you select the "resize partition" option [06:55] hi superfly Symmetria #ubuntu-za [06:56] heya sakhi [06:56] thanks dood [07:22] * Squirm grumbles about people herding cows along the road and end up letting them run into our garden === scar[w]_ is now known as scar[w] [08:23] morning superfly and others [08:23] hello [08:23] morning oom Kilos [08:23] how are you today? [08:23] well ty superfly [08:24] and you? [08:24] moeg [08:24] but otherwise fine [08:24] still moeg? need to get a good multivit [08:25] or sleep more [08:25] hi HQUbuntu who are you? [08:26] the whole HQ or just one person [08:26] hehe [08:27] stands for my geographical area [08:28] first thing I could think of [08:28] trying to download ubuntu latest server version iso but my firefox doesnt want to do anything when i click save.... weird [08:28] eish [08:29] welcome to ubuntu-za HQUbuntu [08:29] i may have to download IE again just for this cliche.... i dont like using IE but shall have to.... very weird error [08:29] thanks [08:29] i feel welcome [08:29] is ubuntu still the greatest? [08:29] of course [08:31] strange that ff doesnt give you the option to save or even save as [08:32] if you have downloaded it , it must be somewhere there [08:33] hey morgs [08:34] hi Turtle_neck welcome to ubuntu-za [08:34] hi Kilos and everyone [08:35] Maaz, coffee on [08:35] * Maaz washes some mugs [08:36] HQUbuntu: What exactly happens? You right click Save Link As? or click the link directly? Do you get prompted where to save it? [08:39] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [08:39] Maaz, gracias amigo [08:39] ¡de nada compadre [08:39] weird [08:40] i get option to save, but when i click nothing happens, as well as no download in background [08:40] got download manager now and will download third party for now till i figure it out [08:42] so, i wanne setup nice ubuntu server mainly for squid proxy setup to monitor and control our users internet misuse [08:42] who is gonna help me? :) [08:45] HQUbuntu, try this link [08:45] http://chrisjohnston.org/2008/installing-squid-proxy-using-webmin-on-ubuntu-server-8041 [08:45] thanks, will check it out [08:45] wont differ much from newest ubuntu 11 right? [08:46] i dont think so [08:46] would you recommend webmin? [08:47] you need that info from one of the clever guys [08:48] HQUbuntu: I recommend NOT using webmin, and rather learning how to administrate servers via the command line [08:48] webmin is a very big security risk, and you don't learn anything by using it either [08:50] HQUbuntu, here is another one but i dont see one for natty [08:50] http://www.ubuntugeek.com/setting-up-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-server-with-squid-3-as-a-transparent-proxy.html [08:52] thanks guys, i also feel i will rather learn the hard way, without webmin [08:54] good luck HQUbuntu [12:16] whats up the web today [12:17] and gmail taking longer to connect with pidgin everyday [12:17] and keeps losing chats [12:17] grrrr [12:27] not pidgin evolution [12:28] Symmetria: having some routing trouble today? === nlsthzn is now known as nlsthzn-work [14:27] hiya nlsthzn-work [14:29] Hello Kilos :) [14:32] Kilos: All well in SA... seems a bit warmer now :) [14:33] yes ty nlsthzn-work but big cold front on its way. big winds today [14:33] Well, spring day is traditionally bloody cold :) [14:34] hehe [14:34] you lucky its never cold there [14:35] there they wear blankets to keep the heat out [14:42] Well... in the winter it becomes cool enough to get cold... sure it is still much warmer than most places on earth :) [14:43] lol [15:05] peeps from there dont suffer too much if they end up in hell [15:05] hehe [15:14] Ouch [15:31] sorry [15:36] :) [17:11] tumbleweed: cool... I see you are up for election to the Ubuntu Developer Membership Board (or is it just for Ubuntu Developer Membership?) [17:31] go tumbles [18:44] battle to get a word in edgewise this channel is so busy [18:44] hi stefanv [18:44] Maaz, coffee on [18:44] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [18:45] I guess evryone is a bit busy :) [18:45] Maaz, coffee for all [18:45] Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already [18:45] Maaz: tea please [18:45] Everybody here drinks coffee or goes thirsty [18:45] hee hee [18:45] Maaz: bite me [18:45] Chomps a big chunk outa your butt [18:45] lol [18:47] Maaz, with milk [18:47] Yay Kilos You aren't one of those skinny guys that needs to drink black coffee to cast a shadow [18:48] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [18:49] Maaz, thank you you kind bot you [18:49] no probs, Kilos [18:50] hiya pj__ [18:50] hi [18:50] i'm new to this [18:50] first time here pj__ ? [18:50] welcome to ubuntu-za [18:50] ja and hope not the last [18:51] you are welcome any or all the time [18:51] will have to bookmark i see [18:51] you may even lurk here as so many others do [18:51] thx [18:52] tell us about yourself [18:53] are you using windows pj__ [18:53] 40 (young) kempton park, and playing with ubuntu on my eserver and mint on the pc and pfSense for firewall [18:53] no long time off windows [18:54] the only windows here is in my house [18:54] yay. you can use xchat or quassel instead of bookmarking a browser [18:55] i dunno what is available for mint [18:55] just took xchat of my pc looks like i will have to put it back [18:55] lol [18:55] sorry [18:55] xchat rocks [18:56] just trying mint normaly on kde or lxde wgat puttes me of nome is the top barr do not realy like it but in mint it is not there [18:57] the irc tool in kde is quassel [18:57] the kde guys prefer it to xchat [18:57] i like gnome [18:58] thx will have a look [18:58] yw [18:59] cheers will c you all soon [18:59] kopete for KDE can also do IRC... but it is more of a IM client so most don't use it for IRC (I wouldn't) [19:00] nlsthzn-work, is that like doing irc with pidgin [19:01] its like using a racehorse to pull a plough [19:03] Basically [19:05] night nlsthzn-work have a good shift [19:05] night all. sleep tight [19:05] Night uncle Kilos [19:30] nlsthzn-work: where did you see that? :) yeah I nominated myself [19:30] tumbleweed: on the planet ;) ... Good luck with it... Hope you get it :) [19:32] oh, I doubt I will, *I* didn't vote for me :) [19:32] but it's something I'm interested in, so I was happy to stand for it [19:33] Oh well... I guess only time will tell :) [22:01] fp [22:09] ? [22:14] sp [22:20] :/