[00:00] <Q-jackechan_> ok, so where exactly do i run that code?
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> but it could be badly written.. like the rest of that web site it came from
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> in a terminal Q-jackechan_
[00:00] <Q-jackechan_> ok
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> in the same workign directory as the download.
[00:00] <Jasonn> Q-jackechan_: I understand, but you are running an installer, which requires an install. I use this as a rule of thumb: If you are going to run a prog under wine installed, imagine it running at 10% of its windows potential
[00:01] <Q-jackechan_> but... it's a.msi.zip. do i still need to unzip first?
[00:01] <Dr_Willis> Q-jackechan_:  yes of course you do//
[00:01] <Jasonn> yes, you will need to unzip
[00:01] <SIFTU> Q-jackechan_: I agree with the other who said, dual boot, or run in a VM.
[00:01] <Jasonn> SIFTU: I be the other one :3
[00:01] <Q-jackechan_> jasonn, if it runs at 0.00000001% of windows potential, i'll be happy as hell.
[00:01] <Jasonn> and might not even start properly
[00:01] <Dr_Willis> if it runs at all.. i will be suprised..
[00:02] <SIFTU> Jasonn: :)
[00:02] <Q-jackechan_> ok, so i just drag/drop out of the window right?
[00:02] <Jasonn> Dr_Willis: If he figures out that wine sucks, I will be surprised.
[00:02] <Dr_Willis> I thought you allready did that once Q-jackechan_ and had it extracted....
[00:02] <Q-jackechan_> doing it again, to rule out corruption
[00:02] <Q-jackechan_> ok, done.
[00:02] <Q-jackechan_> trying code....
[00:03] <Jasonn> Dr_Willis: lol, you just had to complicate him with running wine with terminal xDDDD
[00:03] <Dr_Willis> you dont install a msi any other way that ive seen
[00:03] <Jasonn> oh
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> steam comes as a msi and i install steam allthe time on my box's
[00:04] <tp43> Hi, my screen turns off after 10mins or so, how do I change this setting
[00:04] <Q-jackechan_> omg! yay! i got an install wizard to pop up!
[00:04] <Jasonn> tp43: top right power button, system settings, power settings, etc.
[00:04] <Q-jackechan_> ok, so what directory do i tell it to install itself in?
[00:04] <Jasonn> Q-jackechan_: I bet $10 this is not going to work
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> Q-jackechan_:  let it use the defaults..
[00:04] <Q-jackechan_> okiedokie
[00:05] <Q-jackechan_> and your on jasonn
[00:05] <Jasonn> haha
[00:05] <Jasonn> By that I mean will not run PROPERLY
[00:05] <tp43> I am running gnome, and I set the gnome-screensaver-preferences,  but this seems to be some other setting
[00:05] <brightspark> How can I avoid the message "Error: GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error." when using the youtube feature in totem?
[00:05] <Q-jackechan_> we can define properly later =P
[00:05] <Q-jackechan_> ok, it finished the wizard
[00:06] <maheanuu> Just did an upgrade and lost all sound and mike from Skype in Ubuntu 10.10 this is the 4th Ubgrade to screw up my audio and mic setup
[00:06] <Cornell> My machine only gets up to the hardware splash screen.  Probable hardware failure, or problem with grub, or what.  Never had a machine get that far and no further.
[00:06] <tp43> Never mind, I found it
[00:07] <Q-jackechan_> eww. gmail looks like crap in wine/firefox.
[00:07] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, did it work?
[00:07] <maheanuu> Firefox looks like crap these days
[00:07] <Q-jackechan_> donno yet. working on it...
[00:07] <tp43> My laptop screen turns off after a min and then after a while, it turns back on for just a min, anyone know how to fix this, do I need screen replacement, or something else
[00:07] <bugaloo> yeah... i'm using chrome after I got my android phone, because it's more compatible, but firefox is going bad in some points
[00:08] <puffin> Does anyone have a recommendation for a terminal bittorrent client?
[00:08] <macros> console owner, does this not apply to pre-start stanzas in upstart?
[00:08] <SIFTU> puffin: rtorrent
[00:08] <brightspark> Has anyone any advice for getting youtube to stream within totem?  I always get the error message "Error: GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error."
[00:08] <Jasonn> Dr_Willis: You know how the other day, you recommended I fixed ALSA or something. It didnt work...
[00:08] <puffin> Okays, I'll check it out.
[00:08] <bugaloo> puffin, bittorrent has a console version, I guess
[00:08] <Jasonn> !repeat >> brightspark
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> Jasonn:  i barely rember what i did in here 20 min ago....
[00:08] <SIFTU> brightspark: not sure about that exact error.. but youtube changes things from time to time which breaks everything
[00:09] <latagore> of my Hi, for some reason, the fdisk command isn't working in command line and one of my partitions isn't recognized
[00:09] <SIFTU> brightspark: like youtube-dl recently.. there maybe updated packages
[00:09] <Jasonn> Dr_Willis: Ok, so my sound was not working, and you told me to reinstall alsa, so I did that, and it still does not work.,
[00:09] <Q-jackechan_> lawl... uh... wine/ff needs flash. it's handling it on it's own though
[00:09] <SIFTU> latagore: running it under sudo?
[00:10] <Q-jackechan_> aaaaand... wine-ff froze.
[00:10] <latagore> SIFTU, oops, the command is apparently not found
[00:10] <Jasonn> Q-jackechan_: Wine ss sucks.
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> Jasonn:  i doubt i would have told you to reinstall alsa.. i normally take the standpoint that reinstalling rarely fixs anything.
[00:10] <maheanuu> I went looking for a fix and so far nothing..  It is telling me my pulse audio is effed up
[00:10] <jose> channel to ask mono question please?
[00:10] <SIFTU> latagore: sudo fdisk -l
[00:10] <brightspark> Thanks SIFTU.  I just did an upgrade yesterday, but it didn't help stuff.  I found a post online which recommended installing the gstreamer packages but no improvement there either.
[00:10] <Jasonn> Dr_Willis: reinstall and purge data
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> Jasonn:  unless you totally hacked the alsa configs or did other stuff  to breakit. :)
[00:10] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, wine isn't very stable... it's just a "easy way" to run windows needs
[00:10] <Jasonn> Dr_Willis: lol, I didnt. So how do I fix it.
[00:11] <Ramir00> preset equalizer for QMMP????????????????????
[00:11] <latagore> SIFTU, shouldn't I be able to use fdisk without sudo? It works by the way
[00:11] <Q-jackechan_> alright. i'll try to be more gentle with it.
[00:11] <Dr_Willis> Jasonn:  no idea . i rarely work with sound problems..
[00:11] <Jasonn> oh
[00:11] <SIFTU> brightspark: the patches dont make their way back.. you may need to compile from source or find a PPA with more up-to-date packages.. if that is indeed the problem
[00:11] <Dr_Willis> Jasonn:  so how did you break it? :)
[00:11] <SIFTU> latagore: no, it can destroy disks (ok not the -l option)
[00:12] <Q-jackechan_> tried to scroll up on a graphics intense page right after installing flash plugin
[00:12] <brightspark> SIFTU- I don't think it is as there are posts regarding this error message going back to karmic/jaunty.  I can post the terminal output from when it fails if you would be interested.
[00:13] <goer> I would like to use animated .png in gnome panel ( .apng). Has anyone had success with this?
[00:13] <th0r> Q-jackechan_: you might want to consider lying, after accepting that $10 bet
[00:13] <bugaloo> about sound problems...I have one hehe
[00:13] <latagore> SIFTU, but most devices are not accessible except by root, so why does fdisk have to only be accessible by root?
[00:13] <maheanuu> How do I purge Skype and then re install it along with alsa and get rid of the crap pulse audio s**t?
[00:13] <Q-jackechan_> lol. i'm still working on it.
[00:13] <bugaloo> hi all... I have a dv2000 hp notebook, and I just can't see my headphones volume control, also my speakers doesn't mute when I plug the headphones. Plus, if I choose to sound only goes to the right speaker, it only goes to my right ear on headphones. if I put the sound 'center', it goes to the both ears AND speakers. Does anyone knows how can I configure it right? Using ubuntu 10.04 but the problems happened since 8.10
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> goer:  i doubt if its doable.. animaged png's seem to be rather.. rare.
[00:14] <goer> Dr_Willis: yes, cos its still relatively new. But I read that .gifs will be superceded by .apng
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> goer:  i will belive it when i see it happen.
[00:14] <Ramir00> equalizer preset for QMMP????????????????
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> Ramir00:  you have used up your quota of ?'s for the day. please try again tomorrow....
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> :)
[00:15] <Jasonn> Dr_Willis: I did a fresh install of ubuntu, and the sound dont work :/
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> Jasonn:  so.. has it ever worked...
[00:15] <goer> Dr_Willis: check this:  http://preloaders.net/en/3d
[00:15] <Jasonn> pretty much
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> Ramir00:  kidding.. but doing stuff like that.. makes a lotof people just ignore you even more
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> Jasonn:  it pretty much 'has ever worked' ?  that a yes or no?
[00:15] <maheanuu> I was fine until todays "Upgrade files including Firefox and some other crap
[00:16] <brightspark> SIFTU: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/672796/
[00:16] <Jasonn> Dr_Willis: Never worked with ubuntu, dont know about windows, its a new comp
[00:16] <Jasonn> Dr_Willis: But the internal speaker works, I am sure of that
[00:16] <Ramir00> que me ignoran???
[00:16] <Jasonn> !es > Ramir00
[00:16] <Ramir00> equalizer preset for QMMP
[00:16] <Dr_Willis> Jasonn:  Interesting..  internal speaker = it beeps. :)  -  i would test it with some other live cd's and other disrtos perhaps. check what chipset teh soundcard is also.
[00:17] <Dr_Willis> !info qmmp
[00:17] <Q-jackechan_> dang... you guys weren't kidding, this thing rlly is fragile. i had to look up the url in linux/ff lol.
[00:17] <propus> is there any good theme manager for ubuntu/gnome ?
[00:17] <Ramir00> channel qmmp?
[00:17] <bugaloo> Jasonn, did you try alsamixer on terminal?
[00:17] <Jasonn> Dr_Willis: Actually, I used to use my internal speaker when my speaker broke, so I know it can be used for sound playback..
[00:17] <xangua> propus: appearence menu
[00:18] <Dr_Willis> propus:  there used to be some in the repos, called gnome-art or gnome-art-ng or similer.. but not used them in years. they made it easy to get new themes..
[00:18] <Jasonn> bugaloo: yeah
[00:18] <bugaloo> all volumes are ok?
[00:18] <Jasonn> !flood | Ramir00
[00:18]  * Dr_Willis wonders what qmmp even is...
[00:18] <Jasonn> Dr_Willis: Is ubottu broken??
[00:19] <Ramir00> eh?
[00:19] <maheanuu> I gotta run, a windoze job for a bro in law....  They refuse to leave that piece of crap OS
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> Ramir00:  check the qmmp homepage? they may have some docs/faq/quides links to chat rooms.
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> maheanuu:  charge him double.
[00:19] <Jasonn> Ramir00: Basically, what I am tryinf to say, is DONT SPAM THE CHANNEL WITH CRAP. If you asked your question, wait until it gets answered.
[00:19] <propus> Dr_Willis: thanks :)
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[00:21] <maheanuu> Laters...  I will be back I need my skype tel calls to the states from here are over 10 dollars a minute....
[00:21] <goer> With Linux there is a great solution for everything!
[00:22] <Jasonn> like.. How to get rid of a body!
[00:22] <Dr_Willis> just may not be the one you want. :)
[00:22] <th0r> goer: what does it say about world peace?
[00:22] <IdleOne> !ot
[00:22] <bugaloo> wow
[00:22] <Jasonn> uhh
[00:22] <Jasonn> shit?
[00:22] <goer> th0r: Read the Bible friend!
[00:23] <th0r> a two line joke gets an !ot, but nothing said about 'shit?'
[00:23] <Jasonn> !ot
[00:24] <IdleOne> th0r: you can ask people to watch their language also
[00:24] <goer> I agree wth IdleOne
[00:24] <Jasonn> +1 for idle1 :3
[00:24] <IdleOne> back in my day before I became an op the "regular" users of this channel tried to enforce the guidelines also
[00:24] <Jasonn> or plus One for IdleOne
[00:25] <IdleOne> now please stick to the topic. chatter in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:25] <dsnyders> Hi all.  I need to locate a file on my hard drive.  I forget the name, but it had the word dumpfile in it.  How can I search for it?
[00:26] <Jordan_U> dsnyders: Had the word "dumpfile" in the name or in its contents?
[00:26] <bugaloo> dsnyders: updatedb ; locate dumpfile
[00:27] <Jasonn> dsnyders: find -name "keyword"
[00:27] <bugaloo> that should work too, hehe
[00:27] <dsnyders> Jordan_U, it had the word dumpfile in the contents.  I forget the name.
[00:27] <bugaloo> hm
[00:28] <bugaloo> dsnyders, you can do: grep -R /path/to/initial/directory dumpfile
[00:28] <Jasonn> dsnyders: Then you are screwed. I guess you can look for the file extension.
[00:28] <bugaloo> it will work on this path and subdirectories
[00:28] <bugaloo> dsnyders, but on depending the size of the directory, it can take a long time
[00:29] <Jasonn> dsnyders: You can also look at the approximate location of the file (look in /home/user instead of the whole filesystem)
[00:29] <puffin> det
[00:29] <Pumpkin-> you want the path and the search string the other way around
[00:29] <Pumpkin-> and yes, it will take a while
[00:29] <dsnyders> bugaloo, I'm not in a particular hurry.  But I don't want to rewrite the script if I don't have to.
[00:29] <bugaloo> dsnyders, do that then... is it on a home user directory?
[00:30] <Jordan_U> dsnyders: Try "grep -R dumpfile ~/"
[00:30] <bugaloo> dsnyders, it should work: grep -R /home/user dumpfile
[00:30] <Jordan_U> bugaloo: The search pattern is the first argument to grep, not the path.
[00:30] <Jasonn> bugaloo: If he knew where it was, would he be looking for it (lol, sorry for the sarcasm, and dont take it the wrong way)
[00:30] <dsnyders> bugaloo, I hope so.  I lost track of it during one of my system upgrades.  It's either in the copies of the previous hard drive contents, or it's lost.
[00:30] <bugaloo> oh shit! that's true, haha
[00:30] <bugaloo> Jordan_U is right
[00:30] <j3rg> anyone got the Hauppauge 1600 TV Tuner to work with Ubuntu?
[00:31] <Jordan_U> !language | bugaloo
[00:31] <benji321> Hi, Is it ok to use chkconfig --add to install an init script ?
[00:31] <bugaloo> it's grep -R dumpfile /path/*
[00:31] <bugaloo> come on... this is not a bad word, hehe
[00:32] <Jasonn> bugaloo: I said it and didnt get punished :3
[00:32] <dsnyders> grep seems to be running...
[00:32] <bugaloo> Jasonn,  hehehe... it happens
[00:33] <bugaloo> dsnyders, as I said... it can take a while
[00:33] <conanbat> hey guys im having a desperate issue
[00:33] <bugaloo> try a pizza, hehe
[00:33] <conanbat> I have windows 7 and installed ubuntu from there
[00:33] <Jasonn> bugaloo: yes, why yes it does.
[00:33] <conanbat> this very morning ubuntu was running fine, but suddently, after a reboot, when ubuntu loads i get a gnu console
[00:33] <dsnyders> bugaloo, I've been eating too much pizza lately.  I've got pasta going tonight.
[00:33] <conanbat> i have no idea what to do with that. Seems something broke. Windows 7 works perfectly fine, so i doubt some hardware issue
[00:34] <bugaloo> dsnyders, lol
[00:34] <bugaloo> let us to know if you find your file :)
[00:34] <Jordan_U> conanbat: What prompt do you see from this "console"?
[00:34] <Axalon> I've got a question about PPAs. How exactly do they differ from standard repos? I realize that they're unsupported but I don't see the difference between, say, the Linux Tweak PPA and the Debian Multimedia repo.
[00:35] <conanbat> i dont remember exactly, but im pretty sure it said gnu or gnome
[00:35] <conanbat> it came with a small text that told me if i pressed tab i would see commands (which i did)
[00:35] <bugaloo> conanbat, wouldn't "grub>"?
[00:35] <Q-jackechan_> oh my god... mcgraw hill are a bunch of idiots.
[00:35] <conanbat> mm i saw it so long ago i dont remmeber but maybe its that
[00:35] <Q-jackechan_> they lost my registration already >_<
[00:35] <conanbat> i tried writing "boot" and it said "no loaded kernel"
[00:35] <Jordan_U> !ot | Q-jackechan_
[00:36] <zykotick9> conanbat, did you see "grub" anywhere?
[00:36] <Q-jackechan_> i know, this is related to something i was talking about before.
[00:36] <latagore> conanbat, then you probably saw grub
[00:36] <bugaloo> conanbat, I think you had "grub>" prompt
[00:36] <Q-jackechan_> several users are awaiting feedback on if something we tried worked
[00:36] <Q-jackechan_> just updating them on... technical difficulties...
[00:36] <conanbat> i can try, u guys are probably right
[00:36] <Jordan_U> Axalon: PPAs are repositories that use launchpad's infrastructure. They are no different in structure from any other third party repository.
[00:36] <conanbat> but what should i do if i saw grub ?
[00:37] <Rafase282> can someone help me setup and configure a dhcp server so i can share internet connection via usb with my tablet runing angstrom?
[00:37] <Jordan_U> conanbat: What version of Ubunut did you have installed?
[00:37] <conanbat> 11.04
[00:37] <conanbat> latest with Unity
[00:37] <IdleOne> Rafase282: angstrom is not supported here
[00:38] <conanbat> it stopped working after i shut it down properly, moved away with the laptop and restarted it. I feared hardware at first, but windows runs fine
[00:38] <Jordan_U> conanbat: Can you reboot to the grub shell and be on IRC at the same time from a different machine?
[00:38] <zykotick9> Axalon, actually a PPA and the Debian Multimedia repo are very similar - they are both quasi-official but "unsupported" ;)
[00:38] <Rafase282> I know, but my host machine is runing ubuntu, and that is where the dhcp server needs to be setup
[00:38] <Axalon> I see. Thought there might have been some difference since people seem so crazy about them.
[00:38] <conanbat> Jordan_U, unfortunately i cant
[00:38] <Rafase282> brb tho
[00:38] <Axalon> Thanks for answering that for me
[00:39] <conanbat> Jordan_U, but if i have to run a battery of commands or diagnostics, maybe we can make a list and i can try, and then come back
[00:39] <Jordan_U> conanbat: Can you boot from an Ubuntu LiveCD or USB?
[00:39] <conanbat> i will see if i find the liveCD
[00:41]  * hylian waves hello
[00:41] <sum1nil> hello, I am trying to follow the example at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ApplicationIndicators#C.23_Example
[00:41] <TomR> hi,i use firefox with ubuntu.is there any way to open a link with external application,i.e.,when you right click a link ,you can choose a command to run the link as its first argument.
[00:42] <sum1nil> for the c# source but cant add a reference for using AppIndicator;
[00:42] <aeon-ltd> TomR: no but if it's a specific file type you can, but not something standard like html
[00:42] <dsnyders> Rafase282, I'm not sure if you can set up dhcp that way.  USB is not meant for networking.  There are lots of websites related to tethering smartphones.
[00:42] <hylian> TomR, i don't know, i know it can be done in windows, so i know it can be done in linux, but how...
[00:43] <aeon-ltd> TomR: or anything parse-able by firefox or it's plugins
[00:43] <hylian> sum1nil, i read that article, exactly what are you trying to do?
[00:44] <conanbat> Jordan_U, i just remembered that the last live cd i had, even if i found it, was like 9.10 or something, i've been updating it
[00:44] <sum1nil> add a the reference to AppIndicator; I can't find it in the add reference.
[00:44] <kingofswords> is it safe to upgrade from 10.04 lts to 10.10 with updatemanager or should i do a backup of 10.04?
[00:44] <Galaxor> Does ubuntu have the hg shelve extension and I just can't find it in the repo?  Or do I have to compile it from source?
[00:44] <conanbat> what were you trying to achieve by running an ubuntu?
[00:44] <hylian> TomR, if a file is already associated to a specific action, i.e. a mp3 opens mplayer, then firefox will open it, but it won't give you an option as to what to open it with, just mplayer.
[00:45] <Jordan_U> conanbat: If you could boot into Ubuntu then you could run boot info script.
[00:45] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | conanbat
[00:45] <sum1nil> by the way anyone know how to watch netflix over ubuntu?
[00:46] <conanbat> can it be run from grub?
[00:46] <Jordan_U> conanbat: No.
[00:46] <hylian> sum1nil, currently the only way I know is to install virtualbox, and then install the netflix software in a vm'ed version of windows. netflix is quite anti *nix
[00:47] <Jordan_U> conanbat: Do you have a camera that you can use to take pictures of the output at the grub shell (to avoid having to write and retype a lot of output)?
[00:47] <sum1nil> hylian: i see well I have an old vista disc...
[00:47] <conanbat> man im really short tooled, i dont have a camera to do that. I am a programmer so i can follow some complicated tasks. But if you need to see some large input i will have to get a computer somehow
[00:48] <Rafase282> im back
[00:49] <hylian> sum1nil, that will work, hope you have the serial code too.
[00:49] <zykotick9> j3rg, yes, to hauppauge 1600 in 10.04LTS, but never got the remote working
[00:49] <sum1nil> hylian: yep... was a package deal with my current desktop
 The guided that I'm following requires it. http://dev.openaos.org/wiki/DebianGen7
[00:50] <hylian> sum1nil, good. i don't know if you have virtualbox installed yet, but I suggest you download it from oracle directly. the one in software center is open source edition, deisgned for working on the project, and is unstable and does not have all the functions
[00:51] <conanbat> Jordan_U, will it help to install wubi?
[00:51] <conanbat> or will that not help us diagnose the booting issues?
[00:51] <sum1nil> will do
[00:52] <hylian> sum1nil, good, i suggest you get it here: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[00:52] <dsnyders> Rafase282, Did you try looking up dhcp in the package manager?
[00:52] <wdd``> http://i.imgur.com/S6KnG.jpg
[00:53] <Q-jackechan_> while i'm on hold with these people... has anyone heard of the patch for terminal that makes it shout at you if you type "make me a sandwich" into it? where can i get it?
[00:53] <Rafase282> I installed it
[00:53] <Rafase282> but it wont run
[00:54] <dsnyders> Rafase282, Dumb question... Was that the client, or the server?
[00:54] <Rafase282>  isc-dhcp-server
[00:55] <Rafase282> from the command sudo apt-get install dhcp3-server
[00:56] <j3rg> zykotick9 wat program u use to view channels?
[00:56] <Jordan_U> conanbat: You already have Wubi installed.
[00:57] <zykotick9> j3rg, i used it exclusively with MythTV actually
[00:57] <latagore> Hi, how can I create a LiveUSB from another Linux distro?
[00:57] <zykotick9> j3rg, do you also happen to have an nvidia graphics card?
[00:57] <Rafase282> unebootin
[00:58] <Rafase282> google that for a liveusb
[00:58] <j3rg> zykotick9, nope ATI HD 5770
[00:58] <zykotick9> j3rg, k
[00:58] <j3rg> zykotick9, i hear something about interlacing or overlacing not capable
[00:59] <Joe_> Hi folks.
[00:59] <j3rg> zykotick9, my thought was once it works with windows 7 I can't see why it ain't gonna work with Ubuntu
[00:59] <zykotick9> j3rg, sorry don't know about those.  I certainly never had any output issues, was even able to use hardware rendering via vdpau for HD content
[00:59] <jabell> hi
[00:59] <conanbat> Jordan_U, yes but re-installing it. I would like to salvage the information, but more so having a version of ubuntu running as i depend on it to work
[01:00] <dsnyders> bugaloo, This may take longer than I thought.  I'm getting "recursive directory loop" warnings.
[01:00] <j3rg> zykotick9, nice!!.... anywayz tanx for da reply Imma keep tryin'
[01:00] <bugaloo> oops
[01:00] <bugaloo> dsnyders, did you start on root directory? like / ? hehe
[01:00] <alikhj> hello! I hope everyone is well today
[01:00] <dsnyders> bugaloo, You can wait until the heat death of the universe, right?
[01:00] <alikhj> i have an issue with Grub
[01:00] <Seanmc98> whats the commmand to pull the contents of a iso that are burned onto a disk back into a iso?
[01:01] <bugaloo> hehe
[01:01] <alikhj> i just installed natty with win7
[01:01] <dsnyders> bugaloo, No, I started in /home/dsnyders
[01:01] <bugaloo> dsnyders, I guess not
[01:01] <alikhj> grub shows win7, but does not load it
[01:01] <Jordan_U> conanbat: Boot into the grub shell and run "set", this will print the list of environment variables and thier values. Write down the value of the $prefix variable. Also run "ls" and write down all the output. If you see a grub version number on the screen somewhere write it down. Run "cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg". The last command will eithr print a short error message or flood your screen with output. Note which of the two it does.
[01:01] <bugaloo> dsnyders, maybe you have any link to a directory below and it's looping
[01:01] <bugaloo> :\
[01:01] <alikhj> i select win7 and the screen just goes blank and then i see grub again
[01:01] <wad> Seanmc98, can't you just right-click the CD-ROM icon, and choose to do it from a menu? I've done it before, it was done that way, I think.
[01:02] <conanbat> ok will do right away
[01:02] <alikhj> anyone know what the problem could be?
[01:02] <Jordan_U> conanbat: One second.
[01:02] <bonny__> how do i update adobe flash player
[01:02] <Seanmc98> wad, i know there was a command that worked and idk what that command was
[01:03] <sum1nil> bonny: get the beta works good
[01:03] <jabell> Is there any way to pull contents from a large number of folders, and put them into one folder? I have a load of zip files i would like to access in one place but i do not want to have to sort them manually
[01:03] <sum1nil> squared or something
[01:03] <linuxuz3r> bonny__ dl the latest flash player from adobes website
[01:03] <alikhj> can anyone help me with grub and win7 not loading?
[01:03] <linuxuz3r> there is an instruction on how to install it
[01:03] <conanbat> ok still here
[01:03] <Joe_> I am also having boot troubles with Natty.
[01:04] <sum1nil> what kind of troubles Joe?
[01:04] <dsnyders> bugaloo, It doesn't seem to actually be looping.  It's just throwing a warning.  /home/dsnyders/documents/olddrive/wine/mydocuments points back to /home/dsnyders/documents or some such nonsense.
[01:04] <bonny__> I dont know how to install from website on linux only sort of used to with terminal
[01:04] <Joe_> black screen, 'Read Error'
[01:04] <Jordan_U> conanbat: If you need Ubuntu running soon and reliably then I would recommend burning an Ubuntu CD or making an Ubuntu USB and doing a normal (non-wubi) install. You can access your wubi files from the normal Ubuntu install.
[01:04] <bugaloo> dsnyders, maybe it works yet then
[01:05] <latagore> Rafase282, do I need a partitioned drive or can I use the raw device?
[01:05] <sum1nil> mmmm... and that is natty?
[01:05] <alikhj> can anyone help me with grub and win7 not loading?
[01:05] <Jordan_U> conanbat: That's all. I need to leave now, but I will be back in about 45 minutes.
[01:05] <Joe_> Yes,
[01:05] <conanbat> ah thats good Jordan_U , i am downloading it right now
[01:05] <conanbat> will do that
[01:06] <Joe_> Alikhj Have you tried the win7 recovery cd?
[01:06] <hylian> alikhj, i certainly can try, exactly what does grub do when you boot.
[01:06] <sum1nil> Joe is that on the install or after the install? You may need to run the burn a bit slower.
[01:07] <alikhj> Joe: yeah the win7 recovery cd had no effect
[01:07] <Rafase282> for unebootin you should format it, event fat32 works, it does it magic
[01:07] <Rafase282> im not sure about raw
[01:07] <hylian> Joe_, as a long time computer tech, i can tell you that half of the people that buy windows don't get a recovery disk.
[01:07] <alikhj> hylian: thanks! i select win7 on grub and just get a blank screen and then it goes back to the grub menu
[01:07] <Joe_> Short version: brand new drive, fresh install to an ext4 partition I set up.
[01:07] <alikhj> hylian: everything else in grub works fine - ubuntu boots no problem
[01:08] <hylian> alikhj, hmmm. how familiar are you with the terminal? (control alt t)?
[01:08] <dsnyders> bugaloo, Well, if it wasn't smart enough to look for recursion in the filesystem, the warning messages wouldn't be there.
[01:08] <alikhj> hylian: in it right now and willing to learn
[01:09] <bugaloo> dsnyders, sure
[01:09] <ndeyconteh> he
[01:09] <ndeyconteh> hey mal
[01:09] <hylian> alikhj, the first thing we should do is update grub. that is done by typing sudo update-grub
[01:09] <IRAQI> What app replace photoshop in linux?
[01:10] <hylian> IRAQI, gimp, or "GNU Image Manipulation Program"
[01:10] <alikhj> hylian: done, last line says "Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda1
[01:10] <IRAQI> hylian: thanks...
[01:10] <hylian> alikhj, ok, you will have to restart, and try windows again, i will be here if it fails, either way please come back and tell me the results.
[01:10] <sum1nil> gimp is very stable
[01:11] <alikhj> hylian: no problem - i'm IRCing on another pc so gimme a sec while I restart
[01:11] <hylian> IRAQI, no prob bob :)
[01:11] <alikhj> hylian: thanks btw!
[01:11] <Dogears> Hi! I am trying to setup a basic DHCP server on 10.10. I have installed the program and modified the dhcpd.conf file to subnet 192.168.1.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 which gives me a bad subnet number/mask combination? any ideas?
[01:12] <alikhj> hylian: no luck... same blank screen and back to grub menu
[01:12] <alikhj> hylian: and the grub version is the same at 1.99~rc1-13ubuntu3
[01:13] <SIFTU> Dogears: does you file look similar to the examples in the man page?
[01:13] <hylian> alikhj, let me look this up and see what is going on. do you have 2 hard drives?
[01:13] <SIFTU> Dogears: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/man5/dhcpd.conf.5.html
[01:13] <alikhj> hylian: you guessed it - ive got 2 hd's win7 and ubuntu are installed on just one though
[01:13] <alikhj> hylian: could it be an issue with the 100mb partition that win7 creates at the beginning of the hd?
[01:14] <urlin2u> alikhj, run this script and pastebin all of the RESULTS.txt  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[01:15] <invisiblek> boo, chromium keeps not being able to load my profile. even though i reset it
[01:15] <alikhj> urlin2u: got it, will do - what is pastebin btw?
[01:16] <Joe_> Anyone know how to fix a 'read error' on boot?
[01:16] <urlin2u> alikhj, http://paste.ubuntu.com/  the script will answer a lot opf questions.
[01:16] <dsnyders> alikhj, pastebin is a website that allows people to share text files on a short term basis.
[01:16] <urlin2u> of*
[01:17] <alikhj> dsnyders: ahhh i see thanks!
[01:17] <kapipi> Shouldn't the Unity file lens (via Zeitgeist) pick up that I have downloaded a file and display it in recent items?
[01:17] <kapipi> *using firefox
[01:17] <dsnyders> alikhj, It's perfect for sharing long log files and other such output on an IRC chat without drowning out everyone.
[01:19] <alikhj> urlin2u: just pasted RESULTS.txt to ubuntu pastebin under alikhj
[01:19] <Eryn_1983_FL> hey peeps having an issue in natty my package list wont parse ..
[01:19] <urlin2u> alikhj, you now paste the url here.
[01:19] <Eryn_1983_FL> how do I fix that/
[01:21] <urlin2u> alikhj, we can't find it you have to give us the http address
[01:21] <invisiblek> going to dev chromium....
[01:23] <hylian> alikhj, sorry i took so long, a lot to read. sadly i believe it to be not good news. from what i read this is a known error with grub and windows 7. it is highly recommended to install ubuntu on another disk, away from windows, not just another partition. i never ran into this problem with my xp and vista customers... you will most likely have to re-install windows 7, which will get you windows 7 working but wipe out ubuntu. the best option for you may be t
[01:23] <hylian> he ubuntu install through windows option.
[01:23] <Q-jackechan_> bugaloo_ , ok, so you were right, this dosen't seem to be panning out.
[01:23] <Q-jackechan_> oddly it's not the plugin that's not working
[01:23] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, too bad
[01:23] <phrosty_> What does this error message mean? Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:23] <phrosty_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:24] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan_, maybe you have to install windows on a virtualbox after all
[01:24] <Q-jackechan_> flash is takeing forever and a halk to load
[01:24] <latagore> hylian, where did you read this?
[01:24] <latagore> phrosty_, you probably don't have root privileges. Use sudo
[01:24] <hylian> latagore, it's from several boards. i can dig up all the articles i read if you want...
[01:25] <urlin2u> hylian, a bit drastic I doubt that needs to be done. ;-)
[01:25] <Ramir00> hi
[01:25] <hylian> urlin2u, always open to other suggests my man... :)
[01:25] <bugaloo> phrosty_, you're running it with non-root user, or there is another apt/dpkg running
[01:25] <latagore> phrosty_, oh, then that means you might be updating or you are running synaptic/other package manager
[01:25] <latagore> what bugaloo said
[01:26] <phrosty_> latagore, I am not aware of another synaptic running.
[01:26] <phrosty_> How would I be able to tell
[01:26] <bugaloo> phrosty_, are you running it with sudo or root?
[01:26] <phrosty_> sudo
[01:26] <alikhj> urlin2u: sorry got disconnected - any luck?
[01:26] <urlin2u> alikhj, you have to post the url
[01:26] <bugaloo> phrosty_, if sudo is running, then you should have another apt/synaptic/dpkg running
[01:26] <Dogears> SIFTU: It all looks OK -- subnet 192.168.1.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 { range 192.168.1.80 192.168.1.99;} This is the only line apart from the default lease info.
[01:26] <hylian> latagore, article 1: http://www.sevenforums.com/installation-setup/128616-win-7-won-t-boot-after-installing-ubuntu-dual-boot.html 2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1649768 3: http://www.sevenforums.com/installation-setup/83923-where-install-ubuntu-my-system.html#post733626
[01:27] <bugaloo> try to look for it on ps ax
[01:27] <phrosty_> bugaloo, I don't but maybe a reboot will fix it?
[01:27] <alikhj> urlin2u: dang! sorry i guess my ping didnt go through the last time - http://paste.ubuntu.com/672823
[01:27] <bugaloo> phrosty_, it's possible
[01:27] <bugaloo> phrosty_, radical, but possible, hehe
[01:28] <latagore> hylian, I just wanted to make sure you were pulling something over us or that you might have been mistaken, sorry :]
[01:28] <phrosty_> Well we shall see brb lol
[01:28] <hylian> urlin2u, maybe you have heard of this, after installing ubuntu, ubuntu boots, win 7 goes to a black screen, and then either reboots or goes back to grub menu
[01:28] <hylian> latagore, no, but i do wish i had a much easier solution for alikhj, because this doesn't sound like fun. :(
[01:28] <Joe_> quit
[01:29] <Q-jackechan> bugaloo, sorry irc froze
[01:29] <Q-jackechan> you still here?
[01:29] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan, that's ok
[01:29] <Q-jackechan> so, can you instruct me on how to do this through virtual box?
[01:29]  * hylian is glad he is not a dual booter anymore.
[01:29] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan, oh.. it's a long way actually
[01:29] <alikhj> hylian: whats the alternative to an easier solution?
[01:30] <bluekelp> why in 11.04 does "cat file.iso > /dev/cdrom" no longer work.  I get a "bash: /dev/cdrom: Read-only file system"
[01:30] <alikhj> hylian: there's nothing on my win7 side so it's no biggie reinstalling or doing something drastic
[01:30] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan, maybe you should search it on google: virtualbox windows under linux hehe
[01:30] <Q-jackechan> =/ is that a "no"?
[01:30] <bluekelp> I'm forced to use one-use tools to burn by isos
[01:30] <hylian> alikhj, i don't have one, which is why I am imploring someone else to help me, maybe someone else found a way around.
[01:30] <urlin2u> alikhj, you just need grub in the sda hard drive, follow this link 3 commands first the fdisk -l then two more to load grub, read carefully, and use a cd equal to the install.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy%20LiveCD%20Files
[01:30] <bugaloo> using virtualbox to install windows is not the scope of this channel
[01:30] <wdd``> how do i dual boot windows
[01:31] <alikhj> urlin2u: what do you mean by a cd equal to the install?
[01:31] <czz> is there any known way to update your ipod touch with ubuntu 11.04?
[01:31] <szal> wdd``: first install Windows, second install Linux, done.
[01:31] <hylian> alikhj, that's good to hear. the best solution i can give is to install win7, then ubuntu, but on the other hard drive, without replacing windows 7's boot manager.
[01:31] <hylian> alikhj, or using the install ubuntu from inside win7 option
[01:31] <Q-jackechan> bugaloo, ok, i'm dling a virtual box for amd64. (i have no idea what i386 is, but i dont seem to have it.)
[01:32] <invisiblek> i386 is 32-bit
[01:32] <latagore> Alikhj, can you do me a favour and do fdisk -l ?
[01:32] <urlin2u> alikhj, first you also have grub in the sda1 partition, open that partition, using a live ubuntu cd look in boot for anything named grub and remove. equal cd is a natty install and natty cd.
[01:32] <Q-jackechan> how do you tell if you are/aren't 32 bit?
[01:32] <invisiblek> amd64 is 64-bit (doe NOT necessarily mean you have an AMD processor)
[01:32] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan, i386 is a intel 32bit
[01:32] <invisiblek> Q-jackechan, uname -a
[01:32] <phrosty_> bugaloo, I now get this error when i do update in terminal dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:32] <th0r> Q-jackechan: I think you said you do not have a windows install cd. If not, virtualbox won't help you
[01:32] <latagore> alikhj, if you aren't being bombarded by people
[01:32] <shinsuke> my hdd order is sda1,23,5. where is the 4? is it because i only have 2 primary partitions? thanks.
[01:32] <bugaloo> phrosty_, try sudo dpkg --configure -a hehe
[01:33] <alikhj> latagore: haha no problem, let me run fdisk -1
[01:33] <invisiblek> Q-jackechan, uname -m (actually)
[01:33] <Q-jackechan> th0r... that's not something i wanted to hear. =.=
[01:33] <alikhj> latagore: i do this in ... terminal, right?
[01:33] <latagore> alikhj, Yep
[01:33] <phrosty_> Hmmm nothing happened. I assume it worked then?
[01:33] <[THC]AcidRain> great. i clicked cancel on a ubuntu update when it was "applying changes" because i know i entered in the wrong password. now it says check internet connection. failed to download
[01:33] <alikhj> latagore: wierd, gives me an invalid option
[01:33] <invisiblek> microsoft lets you download windows 7 isos now (no key obviously but it is a trial)
[01:33] <th0r> Q-jackechan: virtualbox creates a virtual computer that you install windows onto...just as though you had a second computer.
[01:33] <invisiblek> Q-jackechan, ^^
[01:33] <Q-jackechan> ok, so now what then?
[01:34] <[THC]AcidRain> anyone know how to fix this issue now? :/
[01:34] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan, true... you need a cd install for windows
[01:34] <hylian> alikhj, yeah, in terminal it's sudo fdisk -l (small L)
[01:34] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan, if you dont have one, and wine doesn't work, I have no ideas, hehe
[01:34] <latagore> alikhj, just a moment, lemme try it out here. Did you run it with root privileges? you can do that with sudo fdisk -l
[01:34] <Q-jackechan> i dont have one
[01:34] <Q-jackechan> is there anything else we can do?
[01:34] <phrosty_> bugaloo, latagore, thank you both for your help. Works perfect now :)
[01:35] <urlin2u> alikhj, if you follow me you will have everything back, don't be sidetracked.
[01:35] <bugaloo> :)
[01:35] <phrosty_> Now to figure out why i cannot login to the irc correctly ;)
[01:35] <latagore> phrosty_, I can't even remember what I did x]
[01:35] <Q-jackechan> so in other words i'm... out of luck?
[01:35] <Q-jackechan> and there's no way to do this with the mac version?
[01:35] <phrosty_> latagore, You responded ;)
[01:35] <alikhj> latagore: here's the pastebin - http://paste.ubuntu.com/672831
[01:35] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan, lol... maybe... mac version isn't going to help you, I guess
[01:35] <alikhj> urlin2u: haha okay lead the way!
[01:35] <latagore> alikhj, send me a message if urlin2u can't help you
[01:36] <latagore> alikhj, follow his advice for now :]
[01:36] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan, I think most likely you should try to fix the wine solution, but if you have no experience on that, maybe it'll be a bit annoying
[01:36] <urlin2u> alikhj, I have posted every thing you need to do boot a live ubuntu cd open the sda1 partition go to the boot folder and remove anything reading as grub
[01:36] <alikhj> latagore: haha, just sent you the fdisk output, let me know what you think... for now i'll look into what urlin2u says
[01:37] <alikhj> urlin2u: so the confusion with grub is that there are two instances of it?
[01:37] <urlin2u> alikhj, it is in the sda1 not supposed to be and the wrong mbr
[01:37] <macfire> how do i install ati drivers in 11.04?
[01:37] <invisiblek> !ati
[01:37] <invisiblek> !fglrx
[01:37] <alikhj> urlin2u: a ha!! and its supposed to be in sda, not sda1
[01:38] <speed_linux> how should i go about mesuring the voltages in a psu with software for ubuntu?
[01:38] <bugaloo> Q-jackechan, unfortunately some developers make things only for windows... we can try to get another way, but sometimes it's just programmer fault
[01:38] <Eryn_1983_FL> hey peeps having an issue in natty my package list wont parse ..  any ideas what I Can do to fix it?!?!?
[01:38] <urlin2u> alikhj, yes should have gone to sda=mbr originally
[01:38] <invisiblek> Eryn_1983_FL, does it give an error? pastebin it
[01:38] <Eryn_1983_FL> ok
[01:38] <dsnyders> speed_linux, sell the software and buy a multimeter? :-)
[01:38] <invisiblek> probably have a broken repo
[01:39] <hylian> macfire, in the top left, under system, there is an administration tab, there it will say additional drivers, it will search for your best driver, choose the recommended driver.
[01:39] <urlin2u> alikhj, easy fix here just remove all the grub only from sda1 first
[01:39] <alikhj> urlin2u: understood - and how come i need the LiveCD for this.. can i just do this in ubuntu?
[01:39] <invisiblek> speed_linux, i agree with dsnyders, you are better off measuring with a tool that is designed for that. software would be unreliable
[01:40] <stercor> I'm trying to write a .iso to my DVD drive.  Here's the mount command: 'sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrw /cdrom' I get mount: wrong fs type, bad option...  Is there something wrong with the mount command?
[01:40] <stercor> brasero can't find it.
[01:40] <urlin2u> alikhj, didn't know ubuntu was booting but you may get away with a update-grub when grub is removed from sda1
[01:40] <invisiblek> stercor, you need -o loop
[01:40] <Crisco> quick question, I have the .deb of VirtualBox 4.0.<something> here and my installed version is 3.2
[01:40] <BryanRuiz> if i put a script in rc.local, it runs when my computer turns on, but what if i want a script to run after i log in to gnome?
[01:40] <invisiblek> Crisco, why a deb? use the repository
[01:40] <alikhj> urlin2u: yeah ubuntu boots, win7 doesnt... i tried update-grub and it had no effect
[01:40] <stercor> invisiblek: as in "-o loop"?
[01:40] <alikhj> urlin2u: let me try this solution and ill get back to you
[01:40] <invisiblek> stercor, yes, mount -o loop -t iso9660........
[01:41] <Eryn_1983_FL> http://pastebin.com/dZSS5zb3
[01:41] <Eryn_1983_FL> there ya go
[01:41] <DoctorBlackbird> how do i do these tar.bgz things with all the files but no installer
[01:41] <DoctorBlackbird> ?
[01:41] <hylian> alikhj, but we didnt remove grub form sda1, never even crossed my mind.
[01:41] <urlin2u> alikhj, cool so I think you know whats up grub never goes to windows.
[01:41] <Crisco> if I were to install the .deb of the updated one, would that overwrite the older one and would I lose my Virtual Machines if it did?
[01:41] <dsnyders> speed_linux, There is a package called sensors-detect that monitors stuff like CPU fans and temp sensors.  It may have support for PSU voltages.
[01:41] <stercor> invisiblek: Same thing.
[01:41] <latagore> urlin2u, I think we both had about the same solution
[01:41] <invisiblek> DoctorBlackbird, what are you tring to install? is not not in apt? try to find a .deb of it
[01:41] <latagore> urlin2u, I think it needs to be publicized more
[01:41] <invisiblek> stercor, sorry, if you want to write it to a disc, you won't want to mount it
[01:41] <urlin2u> hylian, the bootscript is the best tool for finding that stuff
[01:42] <alikhj> urlin2u: what im confused about is that there is no "sda" device.. theres an sda1, 2 and 3 etc... but no sda listed in the fdisk output
[01:42] <stercor> invisiblek: oh...  I'll try that.
[01:42] <urlin2u> alikhj, sda is the mbr you wont see it we know it's there the first 512mib of disc
[01:42] <hylian> urlin2u, i admit, i have never had to solve this problem. i have dual booted countless machines with grub, without complication. guess i am one lucky duck.
[01:42] <invisiblek> Eryn_1983_FL, you got something all broken there lol, never seen that one (but i haven't been on the ubuntu scene for awhile)
[01:42] <DoctorBlackbird> ?
[01:42] <alikhj> urlin2u: i see, okay gimme a sec while i try this out
[01:43] <Eryn_1983_FL> invisiblek:  LOL
[01:43] <speed_linux> dsnyders, i cant find it
[01:43] <invisiblek> Eryn_1983_FL, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/104741-solved-package-manager-errors.html
[01:43] <invisiblek> try that maybe
[01:44] <dsnyders> speed_linux, maybe I got the name wrong.  Start poking around here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6925278
[01:44] <stercor> invisiblek: brasero says "No disc available"  "Please replace the disc with a supported CD or DVD"  Is there another program that writes .isos?
[01:44] <hylian> alikhj, sda stands for your sata drive(s), and they don't start at 0. so there never is a sda, it always counts from 1.
[01:44] <alikhj> hylian: man i love how much im learning right now
[01:44] <FenrirReturns> Any advice on installing ubuntu on an Eeepc 900 now that the netbook remix isn't available?  The desktop installer wants 4.4 GB, which of course the eepc900 doesn't have
[01:44] <urlin2u> hylian, there was a time when grub was being dumped in windows, a couple of ways to fix it just manually removing it is easiest.
[01:44] <invisiblek> stercor, avidemux ive used
[01:45] <invisiblek> nvm
[01:45] <invisiblek> thats video editting
[01:45] <speed_linux> i have lm sencors
[01:45] <invisiblek> what did i use....
[01:45] <speed_linux> where is it?
[01:45] <hylian> urlin2u, thanks for the info man. good to know. the win 7 team said you had to format the whole machine. there was my first mistake.
[01:45] <urlin2u> hylian, careful with the sda, and partition numbers when reloading to the mbr sda is used.
[01:45] <hylian> urlin2u, ohh yeah. thanks again
[01:45] <speed_linux> where can i fond lm sencors so i can run it
[01:45] <invisiblek> stercor, k3b is nice (but it installs a bunch of kde libs)
[01:46] <invisiblek> as far as i'm concerned its the best burning software for linux
[01:46] <urlin2u> hylian, I tried helping the w7 team they are blockheads .;-)
[01:46] <invisiblek> speed_linux, it should be in apt
[01:46] <invisiblek> lm_sensors maybe?
[01:46] <invisiblek> lm-sensors
[01:46] <invisiblek> (with a hyphen)
[01:46] <Eryn_1983_FL> ty
[01:46] <invisiblek> figure it out Eryn_1983_FL ?
[01:47] <JokesOnYou77> FenrirReturns: Others may be able to give better advice, but I would suggest trying Lubuntu first
[01:47] <bugaloo> who's trying to burn a cd?
[01:47] <invisiblek> bugaloo, stercor is
[01:47] <bugaloo> stercor, try to run brasero with gksu
[01:47] <speed_linux> apt?
[01:47] <bugaloo> it worked for me once, hehe
[01:47] <FenrirReturns> JokesOnYou77: Thanks, I'll give that a shot
[01:47] <invisiblek> !apt | speed_linux
[01:47] <JokesOnYou77> and if that doesn't work, my next choice would be to do a command line install and then build up the system from there
[01:48] <xunubi> I'm running XFCE but prefer nautilus file manager (I have it installed along with thunar), but I'm unsure how to set nautilus to default and stop thunar launching at  boot
[01:48] <speed_linux> .....
[01:48] <hylian> FenrirReturns, there is a minimal installation method, but the trade off is you have to download everything you need, which takes a lot of bandwidth and time, so if you have both, or a lightning fast internet connetcion with no broadband restrictions,, this might be for oyu
[01:48] <FenrirReturns> JokesOnYou77: Any links to some docs on doing a command line install?
[01:48] <JokesOnYou77> FenrirReturns: Also, was there an Ubuntu version of that netbook that came out?  I just googled it and saw something about that
[01:48] <latagore> xunubi, Go to Settings > Preferred Applications
[01:48] <JokesOnYou77> FenrirReturns: I might have a bookmarks folder on it, sec
[01:48] <latagore> xunubi, whoops
[01:49] <bakiam> hey whats new features on ubuntu 11.10
[01:49] <FenrirReturns> hylian: OK, thanks, I might give that a try, my internet is just average though
[01:49] <latagore> xunubi, sorry, don't know. It's not there
[01:50] <sum1nil> can we download 11.10 yet (alpha)?
[01:50] <hylian> FenrirReturns, in case you are interested, it's here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[01:50] <urlin2u> sum1nil, yes
[01:50] <JokesOnYou77> FenrirReturns: This is the guide I found most helpful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[01:50] <xunubi> latagore: you're right, it's there, and nautilus is set to default, but both are launching.
[01:50] <FenrirReturns> JokesOnYou77: Thanks, I'll read up on that one too
[01:51] <FenrirReturns> hylian: Thanks, I'll check that out
[01:51] <hylian> FenrirReturns, glad to be of service! :)
[01:51] <latagore> xunubi, you could try removing Thunar
[01:52] <bakiam> guys when we could download ubuntu 10.10 beta 2
[01:52] <bakiam> sorry 11.10
[01:52] <JokesOnYou77> FenrirReturns: Ive done a couple CL installs and it's actually a lot of fun once you get the hang of it, but I would try Lubuntu first: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
[01:52] <xunubi> latagore: Just aprehensive to do that incase xfce throws a fit lol
[01:52] <LAcan> lubuntu is awesome on old hardware
[01:52] <IdleOne> bakiam: 11.10 support in #ubuntu+1 also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule
[01:52] <latagore> xunubi, I guess, but it is a last resort if it gets too annoying
[01:53] <JokesOnYou77> hylian: High five for being on the same page here :)
[01:53] <bugaloo> dsnyders, no dumpfile at all? hehe
[01:54] <latagore> xunubi, you could try xubuntu in two months
[01:54] <alikhj> urlin2u: hmmm im getting a "minimal BASH-like line editing is supported instead of grub menu
[01:54] <zesoze> Hi...I'm getting error while trying to enable tls in slapd ubuntu 11.04
[01:55] <xunubi> latagore: it's currently not so good?
[01:55] <hylian> JokesOnYou77, well thanks, and high five back to you :)
[01:55] <dsnyders> bugaloo, Pasta is done and eaten, lots of recursive warnings, the only dumpfile I've found is in the mplayer system files.
[01:55] <zesoze> I'm following the tutorial on https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html
[01:55] <Eryn_1983_FL> working on it
[01:55] <urlin2u> alikhj, when you really need grub in the sda mbr.
[01:55] <latagore> xunubi, ah. I don't know the business with different variants
[01:55] <bugaloo> haha
[01:55] <paulinaperdomo> hola
[01:56] <bugaloo> too bad :)
[01:56] <hylian> paulinaperdomo, hello
[01:56] <urlin2u> alikhj, you have a natty install, and natty cd correct?
[01:56] <JokesOnYou77> LAcan: I love Lubuntu for low end systems, I got a REALLY old sony with 64MG RAM and a 333MHz processor and it ran Debian with LXDE no problem, it's been a best friend ever since
[01:56] <alikhj> urlin2u: yep
[01:56] <LAcan> JokesOnYou77, for shizzle.
[01:56] <dsnyders> bugaloo, the grep search is still running.  Hope remains.
[01:56] <bugaloo> hope so
[01:57] <urlin2u> alikhj, boot that cd and run that script again so we can see if grub is out of sda1
[01:57] <alikhj> alikhj: something wierd with it though... it just hangs at the "try ubuntu" thing... im trying to boot it off a usb instead
[01:57] <urlin2u> alikhj, did you use nomodeset to get in originally?
[01:58] <alikhj> urlin2u: never heard of nomodeset - should i try that out?
[01:58] <urlin2u> alikhj, for low graphics, probably not.
[01:59] <urlin2u> alikhj, ubuntu cd or thumb should boot in about 3 minutes.
[01:59] <littletinybaby> Is there a keyboard shortcut to switch between workspaces
[01:59] <hylian> bugaloo, anyting i can do to help you or dsnyders out?
[01:59] <alikhj> urlin2u: okay let me try again..
[01:59] <alikhj> urlin2u: i had this issue before though where it just hangs infinitely
[01:59] <linuxuz3r> littletinybaby, control alt arrow
[01:59] <bugaloo> hylian, sorry?
[02:00] <littletinybaby> linuxuz3r, gratzi
[02:00] <bugaloo> I dont think so
[02:00] <urlin2u> alikhj, start with computer off.
[02:00] <bugaloo> not for me :)
[02:00] <hylian> bugaloo, never mind...
[02:00] <alikhj> urlin2u: will do - Live CD is revving up
[02:01] <dsnyders> hylian, thanks for the offer.  Got a tool that will un recurse a recursive directory loop?
[02:02] <hylian> dsnyders, never heard anyone ask for that before, i do love working on my ubuntu know how. i'll see what i can dig up
[02:02] <Eryn_1983_FL> TY for help  peps it workie
[02:03] <littletinybaby> linuxuz3r, is there a shortcut to maximize windows, or center them in my screen?
[02:03] <hylian> dsnyders, nope sorry. my head hurts now.
[02:03] <latagore> littletinybaby, maximize should be Alt F3 or Alt F5. Not sure
[02:03] <linuxuz3r> littletinybaby, nope
[02:03] <linuxuz3r> oh
[02:04] <littletinybaby> gratzi
[02:04] <latagore> linuxuz3r, I used KDE when I tried this, dunno if it works in GNOME
[02:04] <hylian> littletinybaby, double clicking in the white space of the top bar of an app will do it, also right clicking the top bar will give you a little menu to do it.
[02:05] <alikhj> urlin2u: alright man, im in
[02:05] <urlin2u> alikhj, this command will down load the script to home on the live cd. http://paste.ubuntu.com/667640/
[02:05] <littletinybaby> hylian, I'm trying not to have to use my mouse
[02:05] <dsnyders> hylian, Thanks for the attempt.
[02:05] <alikhj> urlin2u: grub is in the boot directory
[02:06] <alikhj> alikhj: i should get rid of it entirely and reinstall grub?
[02:06] <urlin2u> alikhj, ahd the results.txt give us another pastebin
[02:06] <alikhj> urlin2u: i should get rid of the grub directory and reinstall?
[02:06] <Dogears> Hi! I am trying to setup a basic DHCP server on 10.10. I have installed the program and modified the dhcpd.conf file to subnet 192.168.1.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 which gives me a bad subnet number/mask combination error? any ideas?
[02:06] <urlin2u> alikhj, not sure what your talking about
[02:06] <linuxuz3r> littletinybaby, for shortcuts try system preferences keyboard shortcuts
[02:07] <alikhj> urlin2u: sorry ill just do what you say haha
[02:07] <littletinybaby> linuxuz3r, thank you very much you're the bomb
[02:07] <Dogears> The only line in the conf file is = subnet 192.168.1.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 { range 192.168.1.80 192.168.1.99;}   apart from the default lease info.
[02:07] <bugaloo> Dogears, try to change it to "subnet 192.168.1.0" instead 192.168.1.10
[02:08] <INFURNO> why is updating firefox on ubuntu such a pain in the ass. I'm using 3.6 and the best I can get is a zip of firefox binaries I have no idea where to put
[02:08] <hylian> littletinybaby, this is not much help but Ctrl + Alt + D enables you to quickly minimize all windows and give focus to the desktop. When all windows are minimized, this shortcut can also maximize all the windows to their previous state.
[02:08] <bugaloo> but i'm not sure if this is the problem
[02:08] <dsnyders> Dogears, 192.168.1.10 is not within the range.
[02:08] <FreezingCold> How can I boot into "live" by default?  I'm making a LiveCD right now
[02:08] <latagore> urlin2u, I don't think he removed grub from the boot directory is what I think he means
[02:08] <latagore> urlin2u, yet
[02:08] <hylian> littletinybaby, are you using unity or gnome?
[02:08] <alikhj> urlin2u: im getting a Permission denied
[02:09] <urlin2u> alikhj, have you opened sda1 and removed grub.
[02:09] <alikhj> urlin2u: not yet
[02:09] <Dogears> Thanks for your help!! Works fine
[02:09] <latagore> alikhj, from the drive, not the software grub
[02:09] <hylian> littletinybaby, Alt+F9/F10 – Minimize/ Maximize current window, that's the best i think i can do.
[02:09] <urlin2u> alikhj, do it then run the bootscript.
[02:10] <hylian> littletinybaby, but the "Alt+F9/F10 – Minimize/ Maximize current window" thing is for gnome.
[02:10] <alikhj> urlin2u: from the drive, not the software? what do you mean
[02:10] <latagore> hylian, whoops, looks like I got the shortcut wrong D:
[02:10] <urlin2u> open the sda1 partition you will see a boot file open it then remove anything named grub.
[02:10] <hylian> latagore, ???
[02:10] <alikhj> urlin2u: ahhh isee
[02:10] <alikhj> urlin2u: man thanks for patience and your help so far!
[02:11] <latagore> hylian, I thought it was Alt F3 or Alt F5 xP
[02:11] <FreezingCold> But yeah, how can I login to a user by default?
[02:11] <hylian> latagore, ohh, well it might be for unity, the one i was talking about is for gnome.
[02:11] <alikhj> urlin2u: i have to mount sda1 first right?
[02:11] <urlin2u> alikhj, you can see the sda1 partition in home left panel live ubuntu cd.
[02:11] <c0mrade_> A cannibal was walking through the jungle and came upon a restaurant operated by a fellow cannibal.
[02:11] <c0mrade_> Feeling somewhat hungry, he sat down and looked over the menu...
[02:11] <c0mrade_> Tourist: $5 Broiled Missionary: $10.00 Fried Explorer: $15.00
[02:11] <c0mrade_> tommychong66: Baked Democrat or Grilled Republican: $100.00
[02:12] <latagore> Hylian, well, I tried a long time ago
[02:12] <c0mrade_> The cannibal called the waiter over and asked, 'Why such a price difference for the Politicians? The cook replied, "Have you ever tried to clean one? They're so full of ****, it takes all morning."
[02:12] <urlin2u> !ot | c0mrade_
[02:12] <alikhj> urlin2u: ah, i see its just called something different
[02:12] <urlin2u> alikhj, probably is partitions are not named sda1 there.
[02:12] <c0mrade_> I thought if I would talk about anthropophagus people it would be related to Ubuntu.
[02:13] <urlin2u> alikhj, close it by clicking on the icon that appears when opening
[02:13] <alikhj> urlin2u: close what?
[02:13] <urlin2u> alikhj, once grub is cleaned out close that partition.
[02:14] <c0mrade_> How can someone return to a channel that he was banned from?
[02:14] <hylian> c0mrade_, ubuntu means community, i don't see the correlation...
[02:14] <alikhj> urlin2u: oh okay gimme a sec, still trying to finding sda1
[02:14] <c0mrade_> Change the proxy he's using?
[02:14] <c0mrade_> And I tried that.
[02:14] <c0mrade_> Changed the nickname...
[02:14] <c0mrade_> Didn't work neither.
[02:14] <alikhj> urlin2u: hmm.. its not in the left panel
[02:14] <alikhj> urlin2u: any other way to get to it?
[02:15] <alikhj> urlin2u: onevermind!! got it
[02:15] <urlin2u> alikhj, it is there, you should see two NTFS partitions there for windows.
[02:15] <urlin2u> wont be named ntfs though alikhj
[02:15] <alikhj> urlin2u: i got it... okay so grub is in the boot directory of sda1... should i delte it?
[02:15] <urlin2u> alikhj, yes
[02:15] <c0mrade_> alikhj delete everthing.
[02:16] <c0mrade_> everything*.
[02:16] <latagore> can someone get rid of c0mrade_ already
[02:16] <alikhj> c0mrade_: get lost
[02:16] <c0mrade_> You will have a smoother and faster experience while using Ubuntu.
[02:16] <urlin2u> c0mrade_, please do not spam the channel or answer questions being taken care of.
[02:16] <alikhj> urlin2u: hmmm this is annoying, it won't let me delte anything
[02:17] <c0mrade_> I want to get involved.
[02:17] <c0mrade_> I want to be part of this amazing channel.
[02:17] <latagore> any channel ops?
[02:17] <Dogget> Guys any major reason to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04?
[02:17] <c0mrade_> If you won't let me. I am going to tell mommy about this.
[02:17] <latagore> We have a troller
[02:17] <urlin2u> alikhj, if you right click the grub ib=n the sda1 partion it will, are you sure you didn't click file and your trying to delet the Naty grub
[02:18] <c0mrade_> Ubuntu was one of my best Operating Systems.
[02:18] <c0mrade_> And still...
[02:18] <teage> I have a toshiba satellite with win7 and ubuntu installed. wireless not working under linux. anyone have this issue?
[02:18] <urlin2u> !op
[02:18] <Tech-1> its not that big of an emergency , use /ignore
[02:18] <c0mrade_> Call 911 just in case.
[02:18] <latagore> Tech-1, don't want him to be giving the wrong advice to people
[02:18] <IAmNotThatGuy> urlin2u, I went to ops to call someone. lol
[02:18] <teage> Its a brand new lappy
[02:19] <latagore> Tech-1, like he did just a moment ago
[02:19] <elky> let me know if he starts being a douche elsewhere
[02:19] <teage> how do i tell what wireless chip it has?
[02:19] <Tech-1> ok
[02:19] <alikhj> urlin2u: youre right, i was in the natty grub... but heres another problem... the sda won't mount so i cant access anything in it!!
[02:19] <alikhj> urlin2u: i see it in the left panel... its called "System Reserved" but i click it and nothing happens
[02:20] <urlin2u> alikhj, open disk manager, click on the 1r60 gig hd then sda1 then mount.
[02:20] <ArseneRe1> I'm using awesome wm on ubuntu, but since 11.04 it's not reading my .xinitrc or .xession. Any ideas?
[02:20] <urlin2u> DeadmanIncJS, don't pm without asking.
[02:21] <alikhj> urlin2u: it says the daemon is inhibited... awesome
[02:21] <latagore> alikhj, another process is using it
[02:21] <Eryn_1983_FL> ok peeps I can't find the  smbfs  package to  mount to my samba shares from cli/fstab
[02:21] <urlin2u> !pm | c0mrade_
[02:21] <DeadmanIncJS> umm ok
[02:22] <alikhj> latagore: how do i close this mystery process
[02:22] <Dogget> I cannot upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 or install straight 11.04 from wubi/cd boot without encountering a blank black screen and nothing happens.
[02:22] <latagore> alikhj, you might want to ask urlin2u. I don't remember how to do it
[02:22] <urlin2u> DeadmanIncJS, I don't remember every nic.
[02:22] <JokesOnYou77> Dogget: One of the main reasons I had to upgrade was driver support for newer hardware rolled into the new kernel etc. However, I lost a lot more than I gained in upgrading.
[02:23] <urlin2u> DeadmanIncJS, ypou were the ubuntu install with windows I believe whats up?
[02:23] <DeadmanIncJS> urlin2u, i was thinking it was you.  i can't recall nickname either.
[02:23] <DeadmanIncJS> urlin2u, oh i was just going to thank you for your efforts... i got it working and couldn't be happier :)
[02:23] <JokesOnYou77> Dogget: Be very careful and do your research before upgrading to Natty. I lost all of my compiz customizations and got loaded up with (what I think is) a worthless UI that just takes up space on my HDD
[02:24] <Dogget> Jokes: So in your opinion it is not worth upgrading to 11.04 apart from drivers issues etc?
[02:24] <FreezingCold> Some on, does nobody know?!
[02:24] <FreezingCold> I can't google it because it's too short
[02:24] <latagore> alikhj, since he seems to be busy, I'll look it up for you
[02:24] <hylian> FreezingCold, sorry, didn't catch the question
[02:25] <urlin2u> alikhj, since you know not what your doing you have opened sda2 I suspect
[02:25] <FreezingCold> hylian, I'm making a liveCD.  When I boot off of it, I currently have to type "live" at "boot: " to get it started.  How can I get it to do that auto?
[02:25] <urlin2u> DeadmanIncJS, cool
[02:25] <JokesOnYou77> Dogget: I wouldn't be so quick to completely dismiss its merits, I think that done properly it could work.  But full disclosure, if I can get sleep and hibernate to work I'm going back to 10.04
[02:25] <sandman2211> Hey, mind if I ask for some help w/ some monitor config problems I'm having?
[02:26] <hylian> FreezingCold, hmm, never made a live cd of my own, let me take a look, brb
[02:26] <FreezingCold> Thank you hylian !
[02:26] <sandman2211> I did the prerequisite 2 hours of futile googling and trying random stuff
[02:26] <dsnyders> FreezingCold, Any reason you're making a CD instead of a bootable USB flash?
[02:27] <Dogget> Jokes: I got you. I am definitely having a graphical issue when trying to install 11.04. I am running an ati 6850 card and it works fine in 10.10 but in 11.04 there are issues for sure.
[02:27] <hylian> FreezingCold, i just remembered, ubuntu live cd's don;t auto to live cd. they wait in case you intent is just to install, i will look for a solution though,
[02:27] <FreezingCold> dsnyders, so it can't be edited.  This is for key management
[02:27] <FreezingCold> * hylian
[02:27] <FreezingCold> hylian, I built mine from the base, it doesn't have any of that stuff
[02:27] <qbert_> where are my smtp logs I cant seem to find them anywhere ?
[02:28] <sandman2211> I'm having some graphics problems in 11.04 too... GeForce 7900 GT
[02:28] <sandman2211> All I want is 1280x1024 resolution :(
[02:28] <JokesOnYou77> FreezingCold: Are you using a program to build it?
[02:28] <FreezingCold> Nope
[02:28] <FreezingCold> Just chrooting ;)
[02:29] <JokesOnYou77> Dogget: Did you say you're running under windows with wubi?
[02:29] <urlin2u> sandman2211, have you tested that resolution with xrandr?
[02:29] <sandman2211> Yeah, but I get an error, can't get anything to work in xrandr
[02:29] <sandman2211> Tried addmode, newmode, etc
[02:30] <hylian> FreezingCold, it's been a long time, so if this option is no longer available, forgive me. is casper present on your live cd image? casper is the autologin system
[02:30] <sandman2211> it says xrandr failed to get size gamma
[02:30] <FreezingCold> Uhhh, not sure
[02:30] <FreezingCold> I have a casper folder
[02:30] <hylian> sandman2211, did you install the proper driver for that card?
[02:30] <sandman2211> tried a dozen different xorg.conf setups but it just ignores them
[02:30] <urlin2u> sandman2211, just wondering , that is about all I know otherwise.
[02:31] <Dogget> Well I did that yes, as I didn't want to play with my partition. I will do a proper install once I format the hdd after a hardware upgrade etc.
[02:31] <sandman2211> Yeah, it's on "NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (version current)
[02:31] <JokesOnYou77> FreezingCold: That's hard core. My understanding is that there are components of the live system in SquashFS that set certain parameters for live mode, things like desktop icon layout and other some more important stuff, and your issue might be somewhere in there
[02:32] <sandman2211> The first time I installed that driver it hosed my system and I had to reinstall.  Worked the 2nd time.  Weird.
[02:32] <hylian> sandman2211, and that's ofcoars, the on it recommended, right?
[02:32] <Dogget> Jokes: It doesn't matter if I try Wubi/CD boot or upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 the same issue occurs.
[02:32] <FreezingCold> JokesOnYou77, I've already tried LFCE on it and it runs
[02:32] <FreezingCold> layout is fine
[02:32] <sandman2211> Yeah it says [recommended] after taht
[02:32] <FreezingCold> Just that it waits for me at "boot:
[02:32] <FreezingCold> "
[02:33] <hylian> FreezingCold, well, you stumped me, here is the live cd manual. it has the info on how to do the opposite of what you want, which is to remove casper. it's here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization. wish i culd help more.
[02:33] <FreezingCold> Yeah, already gone over that
[02:33] <JokesOnYou77> FreezingCold: Then you're over my head.  I think hylian might be on the right track with casper, that's just conjecture tho.
[02:34] <JokesOnYou77> Dogget: Where is Ubuntu installed to? it's own partition, or did you install it in Windows?
[02:34] <hylian> sandman2211, so when you go to the nvidia x server config in system -> administration, it doesn't offer you any higher resolution?
[02:34] <urlin2u> alikhj, so where you at disk manager will mount and unmount all partitions, if you click on the 160 gig HD close sda and sda2
[02:34] <urlin2u> sd1
[02:34] <Dogget> Jokes: using Wubi
[02:34] <Dogget> Just easier for the time being
[02:34] <urlin2u> alikhj, sorry unmount sda1 and sda2
[02:35] <Crisco> how can I decrease the size of my 4GB desktop.couch file?
[02:35] <sandman2211> There's an 1152x864 and a 1360x768 option also.  I'm pretty close to just saying "screw it" and go w/ 1152
[02:35] <urlin2u> Dogget, your trying to install 11.p4 with a wubi install?
[02:36] <urlin2u> 11.04
[02:36] <sandman2211> but I'm giving the PC to a friend who I've been telling how awesome ubuntu everything is for the last few weeks, and that's pretty tacky to just say "it's stuck that way"
[02:36] <sandman2211> I think it's the older hardware.  I built a new one for myself and haven't had a single problem with anything
[02:36] <latagore> urlin2u, do you think you have alikhj's problem under control? Sorry for my rudeness. I'm out if you do
[02:37] <urlin2u> latagore, they are not answering I'm trying. ;-)
[02:37] <Dogget> Jokes: I tried, it didn't work. I tried using a cd and boot from it, I don't get past the install option. I also tried doing an upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04. The upgrade went through, after the reboot the same issue with the black screen happened and nothing on the screen for me to look at.
[02:37] <hylian> Crisco, you could follow the steps to minimize the size of the bookmarks.couch file, as listed here, i think: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bindwood/+question/162623
[02:38] <Rafase282> how can I copy everying on a img to another?
[02:38] <Rafase282> including format
[02:38] <urlin2u> Dogget, you can use a lowgraphic boot.
[02:38] <Crisco> hylian thank you
[02:38] <hylian> Crisco, i meant use the bookmarks info for desktop
[02:38] <Rafase282> im trying to resize a img with linux in it to a bigger img
[02:38] <Dogget> Jokes: That is what I am thinking about Jokes, the alternate cd!
[02:39] <Dogget> But I don't want to lose all my settings and stuff from 10.10 :-(
[02:39] <latagore> urlin2u, well, I think actually my solution is the same as yours except that there may be two boot directories in his /dev/sda1; /boot and /Boot. NTFS systems can't handle that, so that might be the reason.
[02:39] <JokesOnYou77> Dogget: Unforunately, I'm really not familiar with Wubi as I have never used it.  Also, I think you're confusing your helpers a bit
[02:39] <kapipi> Dogget: You could backup your home (should do that in any case) and install / on a new partition leaving the old one in place if you wan't to go back.
[02:39] <urlin2u> latagore, possible, I know what your mean.
[02:40] <urlin2u> you mean latagore
[02:40] <latagore> urlin2u, it happened to me, so that's why I suggest it
[02:40] <FreezingCold> hylian, I have casper setup fine
[02:40] <Crisco> hylian: I get told that firefox can't connect to it D:
[02:40] <hylian> Dogget, you can actually back those up, if you back up everything in /home/user/ you will also back up everything that you had set up, provided that you still use gnome instead of unity when you update. some stuff would be transfered regardeless, but some of the gnome specific stuff would not.
[02:40] <FreezingCold> It's like when the CD boots up, it just goes to a screen saying "boot: "
[02:40] <urlin2u> latagore, probably being helped of the channel, no biggie we all want it to run.
[02:40] <FreezingCold> I enter "live" and it starts up
[02:41] <Dogget> @Jokes Sorry I am not trying to confuse anyone. I think it is just a fact that the 2d graphic is not willing to start properly under 11.04 for me, at least this is what I am concluding.
[02:41] <latagore> urlin2u, sorry, I don't understand what you just said
[02:41] <hylian> Crisco, i yiy yiy. i wish i had more knowledge, i never use the couch database.
[02:41] <Yukinoroh> hello
[02:41] <Yukinoroh> I need help
[02:41] <urlin2u> latagore, somebody is probably helping them in PM, no biggie.
[02:41] <Dogget> Yes I am using Gnome
[02:41] <Yukinoroh> can't input a password in Java when using SCIM
[02:42] <Yukinoroh> did the ubuntu team break something? it used to work before
[02:42] <latagore> urlin2u, alright. Well, good luck if he asks you for help again
[02:42] <Crisco> hylian: neither do I, I don't even know what it does
[02:42] <JokesOnYou77> Dogget: My understanding is that Wubi is essentially a virtual machine, did you get a backup of your files?  Also, I meant conflating, not confusing, as you were calling urlin2u Jokes
[02:42] <urlin2u> latagore, thanks it is an easy fix, it just needs to be done correctly in the correct order.
[02:43] <hylian> FreezingCold, hmm, that sounds like grub is waiting to see which kernel file you are going to choose, unless you are using lilo... either way though, i think that's your answer, somewhere in a file, there is nothing specified for an autologin kernel image.
[02:43] <zesoze> Where can I find help to setup a OpenLDAPin ubuntu 11.04
[02:43] <Crisco> hylian: what does it do?
[02:43] <zesoze> the server guide is not working for TLS support
[02:44] <Dogget> @Sorry for the typo then. To be honest I don't want reinstalling Ubuntu at all if I am sure 11.04 will install fine. Now I never tried the non graphic install, will it be that different from the normal install?
[02:44] <kapipi> Yukinoroh: I tried googling "scim java password" and it shows a lot of bug reports related to various distributions. So probably its not ubuntu specific.
[02:45] <hylian> Crisco, it's a database design to be sql free, and useable among a large amount of different kinds of devices. so you could make a database listing your favorite shoes, and teir prices, and then use couch db to port it to your blackberry, or even your linux based toaster, if you had one :)
[02:45] <urlin2u> JokesOnYou77, conflation is my middle name. ;-)
[02:45] <kapipi> Yukinoroh: On a side note, I recommend using ibus and ibus-mozc instead of scim.
[02:45] <Crisco> oh...
[02:45] <dsnyders> bugaloo, I think I may need to de-curse my folders after all.  It is taking too long
[02:45] <Crisco> I don't think I really have a use for that
[02:46] <hylian> Crisco, i have an amazing amount of useless knowledge in my head.
[02:46] <bugaloo> dsnyders   :\
[02:46] <vasi> is there a package-aware backup tool, that knows not to backup files from packages that are unchanged in the local fs?
[02:46] <hylian> Crisco, about 1% of us do, and i am not of that 1%,
[02:46] <vasi> (OpenSuSE has something like that)
[02:46] <tonsofpcs> vasi: cp /home /mnt/backup
[02:46] <Crisco> hylian: no, I meant I don't really have a use for CouchDB, not that information
[02:47] <Mankool> Is there anyone here who has run or could help me figure out how to run 2 graphics cards, 1 ati, 1 nvidia? I've been online searching + xorg.conf'ing a lot, but nothing seems to work.
[02:47] <hylian> Crisco, that's what i meant too.. :)
[02:47] <Crisco> I'll probably remember that and help someone else some time when they are wondering what it is
[02:47] <dsnyders> bugaloo, how does one grep for '->'
[02:47] <vasi> tonsofpcs, that does a rather poor job of backing up configuration settings, the list of packages, etc
[02:47] <bugaloo> dsnyders, I missed what you mean
[02:48] <Hoyt> hi , was sun-java6 removed from ubuntu ?
[02:48] <Hoyt> in 11.04 edition
[02:48] <bazhang> Hoyt, in partner
[02:48] <urlin2u> Hoyt, you have to instal it I believe
[02:48] <bazhang> !partner | Hoyt
[02:49] <Yukinoroh> Hoyt: I can confirm it's not.... but jpasswordfields do not work
[02:49] <hylian> Mankool, i have heard of 2 ati's, or 2 nvidia's, but crossing the streams is dangerous lol. i'll take a look for you and see what i can dig up... :)
[02:49] <bazhang> Yukinoroh, sure it is, it's in partner repo
[02:49] <Mankool> hylian, thanks.. yeah from what i've heard, few have crossed streams and lived to tell
[02:49] <bazhang> !java | Hoyt
[02:50] <JokesOnYou77> Dogget: Command line installs really aren't all that bad, if you want a bit more control select "Expert Mode" and if you don't know what something is, make sure you read everything it says and don't change it if you don't understand it. I would reccomend grabbing a copy of VirtualBox and trying it there first, just to be sure
[02:50] <Yukinoroh> bazhang: it is installed here, but password fields do not work... I suppose the ubuntu team forgot to test it against SCIM
[02:50] <dsnyders> bugaloo, I am going to use the tree -fid command which lists files as \path\to\file.  It lists links as \path\to\link->\realpath\realfile.  If I can filter the output through grep, I'll have a lot less output to sort through.
[02:50] <Mankool> hylian: I'm not looking to get compiz-amazing results, i just wnat to be able to run 3 montors, 2 on my ati and 1 on my nvidia, and the nvidia can even be a separate X if its easier
[02:50] <bazhang> Yukinoroh, use ibus for that
[02:51] <Yukinoroh> bazhang: the ibus UI is obstrusive
[02:51] <Mankool> hylian: though for starters, just 1 mon ati 1 mon nvidia would be great
[02:51] <Hoyt> great , thanks for all your help , i'm downloading that package now ;-P
[02:51] <kapipi> Yukinoroh: As I wrote above, it seems it's not an Ubuntu specific issue.
[02:51] <Yukinoroh> hrm
[02:52] <cerebellum> hi there
[02:52] <bugaloo> dsnyders, maybe you should combine it with awk or cut
[02:52] <cerebellum> perl either?
[02:52] <Yukinoroh> hm... I found a workaround anyway... seems like pasting it with middle button works
[02:52] <hylian> Mankool, does the second card work at all? (minimalised gfx ofcoarse...)
[02:52] <cerebellum> is there anyone who can offer a connection??
[02:53] <cerebellum> for penetration purpose
[02:53] <hylian> cerebellum, to what?
[02:53] <urlin2u> cerebellum, to what?
[02:53] <chroot> ls
[02:53] <urlin2u> doh
[02:53] <dsnyders> bugaloo, I am not aware of cut, and I don't know how to use awk.
[02:53] <hylian> urlin2u, lol. jinx!
[02:53] <Rafase282> can someone help me resize a img file?
[02:53] <sandman2211> Mankool: I tried 3 monitors once, couldn't get it working.  Mine were all in 1 Nvidia card tho
[02:53] <Mankool> hylian: i can get my ati to work separate with any driver, and my nvidia same... but together i can't even get them to work using fbdev or vesa
[02:53] <urlin2u> cerebellum, you running backtrack?
[02:53] <Dogget> @Jokes do you want using VM to try 11.04?
[02:54] <cerebellum> slackware
[02:54] <Mankool> hylian: i've also been trying ati using fglrx and nvidia using vesa, and ati-fglrx and nvidia-fbdev
[02:54] <Dogget> Sorry do you mean not want!
[02:54] <sandman2211> They like TwinView but you can only do that w/ 2 screens.  Twinview + separate X window wouldn't work
[02:54] <cerebellum> 13.37 64bit
[02:54] <cerebellum> having problem with the code for buffer overflow
[02:54] <cerebellum> for cisco
[02:54] <sandman2211> couldn't have 3 separate X windows either
[02:54] <J466> how can i force to install a software on ubuntu if there is no connection? becuase when i click on the file it starts software center and it's trying to contact the site
[02:54] <J466> tooooo long.. eh?
[02:54] <J466> READ IT!
[02:54] <Mankool> sandman2211: yeah, with my ati card i'd need a displaylink adapter to get 3 on one card, but i had the extra nvidia card so i wanted to get it working 3 mons without buying anything
[02:55] <cerebellum> yes backtrack
[02:55] <cerebellum> BT On Slackware
[02:55] <cerebellum> vmware
[02:55] <bazhang> !backtrack | cerebellum
[02:55] <uns0b1ll> xubuntu need help with static IP :)
[02:55] <sandman2211> It's got to be possible, but I never found it.  Most of the ubuntu problems I find on google only have 2-3 solutions repeated 100 times over, and that was one of them
[02:56] <bazhang> cerebellum, neither are supported here
[02:56] <alikhj> urlin2u: sorry about the delay, just made it into sda1
[02:56] <Hoyt> uns0b1ll: check /etc/network/interfaces
[02:56] <alikhj> urlin2u: i mean sda
[02:56] <cerebellum> i see
[02:56] <cerebellum> any advice?
[02:56] <alikhj> urlin2u: surprisingly, no grub in there
[02:56] <cerebellum> for the connection?
[02:56] <bazhang> cerebellum, yes. join their channel, dont ask here
[02:56] <cerebellum> bounce IP perhaps
[02:56] <Mankool> sandman2211: yeah i know, google solves almost all seemingly solvable ubuntu problems... except for the rough ones like this ati&nvidia 3 mons
[02:56] <uns0b1ll> Hoyt, currently dhcp set there
[02:56] <cerebellum> no need private connection
[02:56] <J466> HELP MEEEEE
[02:57] <bazhang> cerebellum, that has zero to do with ubuntu support, please dont ask here further
[02:57] <Hoyt> uns0b1ll: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[02:57] <cerebellum> i can send the IP of the target... for testing purpose
[02:57] <bazhang> !ot | cerebellum
[02:57] <uns0b1ll> Hoyt, funny thing i set it exactly like that
[02:57] <J466> ok i don't need you!
[02:58] <J466> i will do it by my self
[02:58] <Onlyodin> Does anyone here have any preferences/recommendations for virtualisation on Ubuntu (desktop)? Decent graphics performance is desirable.
[02:58] <uns0b1ll> Hoyt, but was only able to ping router and nothing else
[02:58] <cerebellum> OK
[02:58] <sandman2211> Yeah, so it could go 1 of 2 ways.  Most likely, it's going to be really tough since it's not even easy if you have all 3 monitors plugged into the same vid card
[02:58] <Mankool> There's gotta be a better way to debug X right? I mean i've been using /var/log/Xorg.0.log, but when you get the weird hanging with logs seemingly cut off, it gets rough
[02:58] <JokesOnYou77> Doggett, I'd try that and/or running it as a live CD to figure out if it's worth it for you.  Putting it in a VM will let you go through the install process in a controlled environment as well so you know what you're in for
[02:58] <sandman2211> but maybe having 1 of them be ATI will work because it will overcome that twinview problem.  I dunno...good luck w/ that
[02:59] <Friar> hi
[02:59] <Friar> Is banshee supposed to be able to get track information automatically from the internet on an audio CD? mine isn't.
[02:59] <Mankool> sandman2211: thank you, i'm hoping i can figure out some way to debug X, if all else fails maybe i'll have to do some crazy backtracing gdb stuff... which would suck, but i'm determined
[03:00] <bugaloo> I'll try again hehe...  I have a dv2000 hp notebook, and I just can't see my headphones volume control, also my speakers doesn't mute when I plug the headphones. Plus, if I choose to sound only goes to the right speaker, it only goes to my right ear on headphones. if I put the sound 'center', it goes to the both ears AND speakers. Does anyone knows how can I configure it right? Using ubuntu 10.04 but the problems happened since 8.10
[03:00] <sandman2211> Cool, if you find a way to force a monitor to display at 1280x1024 (just 1 monitor, nothing fancy) let me know!  I tried everything google recommended, no luck
[03:00] <Mankool> I'd be happy if I could even run 2 cards working with ati-vesa nvidia-vesa
[03:02] <Mankool> sandman2211: is 1280 x 1024 a native res for your monitor size?
[03:02] <sandman2211> yeah, but it keeps sticking at 1024x768, can go as high as 1152x864.  1280 just isn't an option
[03:03] <Mankool> hmm odd indeed
[03:03] <sandman2211> I tried messing w/ xorg, the nvidia settings, the default monitor settings
[03:04] <sandman2211> There's a whole bunch of suggestions for using xrandr on the cli to fix that, but xrandr errors out for me
[03:04] <sandman2211> says failed to get size of gamma for output
[03:04] <JokesOnYou77> sandman2211: I haven't been listening to the entire discussion, but would a separate Xsession window work? Not terribly convenient but it can make a nice workaround
[03:04] <sandman2211> The google suggestions for that aren't quite as many, and I don't understand most of what they say
[03:05] <sandman2211> JokesOnYou, thanks for hte suggestion but I'm only trying to get 1 screen to work right here
[03:05] <sandman2211> I have a newer PC w/ dual screens and all that, never had a problem with anything.
[03:05] <sandman2211> this older one i'm giving to a friend is kind of a headache though
[03:05] <JokesOnYou77> sandman2211: actually, you can probably just edit the xconfig file.  I'm really not the person to tell you how to do it, but that will definitely let you force the resolution
[03:05] <dooglus> every time I ssh onto a remote machine, it asks me for my key's passphrase
[03:06] <sandman2211> is xconfig different than xorg.conf?
[03:06] <dooglus> on my other ubuntu machine, it only asks once
[03:06] <dooglus> what am I missing on this one?
[03:06] <Mankool> hylian: any luck?
[03:06] <rypervenche> dooglus: Which versions are they running?
[03:06] <dooglus> rypervenche: 11.04
[03:06] <cerebellum> back to this channel
[03:06] <JokesOnYou77> probably not.  I know there's a text file that will let you do what you're asking tho...you try the Ubuntu documentation pages yet?
[03:07] <rypervenche> dooglus: Might have something to do with ssh-agent
[03:07] <JoeR1> I would like to change the text for a specific action by which I mean I want to change it from "Empty Trash" to Exterminate Trash"
[03:07] <cerebellum> ok guys Im running ubuntu now
[03:07] <dooglus> rypervenche: ssh-agent isn't running, and I've been unable to get it to run
[03:07] <sandman2211> yeah, I think you're talking about xorg.conf.  It has sections for displays, monitors, mice, all that
[03:07] <cerebellum> BT 5 for penetration
[03:07] <cerebellum> can anyone offer connection?
[03:07] <sandman2211> I changed that a dozen different ways but it just ignores anything I put in there
[03:07] <bazhang> cerebellum, thats not ubuntu
[03:07] <cerebellum> IP Bounce
[03:07] <cerebellum> YMLF
[03:08] <bazhang> cerebellum, and what you are asking is way beyond channel support
[03:08] <JokesOnYou77> That's it.  Did that not work?
[03:08] <JoeR1> I would like to change the text for a specific action by which I mean I want to change it from "Empty Trash" to Exterminate Trash" does anyone know hwo to do this?
[03:08] <Mankool> aha! I have found something i haven't been including in my xorg.conf attempts... anyone know if Section "ServerFlags" Option "Multihead" EndSection does something important?
[03:08] <dooglus> rypervenche: any idea what's going on here?  http://pastebin.com/pcaCQCgw
[03:08] <bazhang> cerebellum, ymlfos is also not supported here
[03:08] <cerebellum> any hacker here?
[03:08] <bazhang> cerebellum, wrong channel
[03:08] <sandman2211> Nope, didn't work
[03:08] <cerebellum> OS doesn't  covered the channel..
[03:09] <bazhang> cerebellum, sure it does. this is UBUNTU support only
[03:09] <cerebellum> whatever ur OS is..u can still connect a channel and get the connection
[03:09] <cerebellum> YLMFOS is ubuntu based..
[03:09] <cerebellum> so y not??
[03:10] <bazhang> cerebellum, and not supported here. please dont ask again.
[03:10] <dooglus> rypervenche: if I "ssh-agent -d", it stays alive and accepts connections
[03:11] <hylian> Mankool, sorry, no. i would think this would be dooable, but i know that each driver set comes with controls for .xinitrc, and they probably would collide. my intuition is that it would be possible by installing both drivers, and then setting up x manually.. but i can't say for sure,,,
[03:11] <JokesOnYou77> sandman2211: grrr....I got nothin lol.  I do know that there should be a plethora of documentation on this kind of thing as the X-server was the bane of many would-be Ubuntu users for a long time.  What drivers are you using, and is this for the old computer or your dulamonitor one?
[03:11] <Mankool> hylian: know anything about OPtion "MultiHead" in ServerLayout?
[03:11] <Friar> is there a way to get banshee to automatically get track info from a CD?
[03:12] <sandman2211> its for the old computer.  It has an Nvidia 7900 GT card, using the latest recommended drivers from the "Additional Drivers" area
[03:12] <sandman2211> single monitor only
[03:12] <chroot> en
[03:12] <Jeruvy> Friar: I believe you need to use freedb for that.
[03:13] <sandman2211> The closest I could get for an answer was the monitor wasn't reporting back what it was.  EDID or something like that
[03:13] <hylian> Mankool, i am afraid i don't i found this on google: http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.1/doc/xorg.conf.5.html, but you probably saw that yourself...
[03:13] <sandman2211> But why's it so hard to just tell it what to use?
[03:14] <macfire> i need install ati driver
[03:14] <hylian> Friar, it doesn't get the track info frm the cd usually, it taps a service on the net.
[03:14] <Friar> Jeruvy, thanks, I'm looking into it.....hylian, thanks.
[03:15] <macfire> but i cant install
[03:15] <JokesOnYou77> sandman2211: This is definitely above my head, but it might be that the driver simply doesn't include that as a possible resolution.  There should be a way around that tho
[03:15] <hylian> macfire, no luck in drivers huh. what is the make and model of your gfx card?
[03:16] <hylian> macfire, also, why can't you install it?>
[03:16] <sandman2211> Yeah, I appreciate the help though
[03:16] <macfire> radeon hd 6850 hydh
[03:16] <sandman2211> So another quick question - in the terminal using "cd"
[03:16] <urlin2u> macfire, this command will identify the card post that info.  lspci | grep VGA
[03:16] <macfire> radeon hd 6850 hylian
[03:16] <sandman2211> how do I cd to a different drive?  trying to get to sda
[03:16] <hylian> macfire, you don't know how to install it, or it gives you an error message?
[03:17] <JokesOnYou77> sandman2211: This might not be the right direction, but you could try and see if Nvidia has a different driver version for you and install wit hthese instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:17] <macfire> hylian error message, but i reinstal ubuntu
[03:17] <hylian> macfire, what did it say?
[03:18] <macfire> hylian the option (for ati), does not appear in additional drivers
[03:18] <rypervenche> sandman2211: cd /media, then ls to see the drives available
[03:18] <hylian> macfire, so there where no options at all?
[03:18] <sandman2211> cool, thanks!
[03:19] <rypervenche> sandman2211: or at least the mounted drives....would you like a PDF to better learn the command line?
[03:19] <urlin2u> macfire, the xswat ppa may be where a driver is
[03:19] <macfire> urlin2u ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates?
[03:19] <sandman2211> nope that worked, thanks!
[03:19] <urlin2u> macfire, that not working?
[03:20] <macfire> urlin2u one minute, let me try again!
[03:20] <_Neytiri_> i was wondering if anyone knew how to make a script that can  read a text file and then creat user accounts based on that file?
[03:21] <urlin2u> macfire, y=run a update && upgrade after adding the ppa/
[03:21] <edbian> _Neytiri_: sure (sounds easy)
[03:22] <JokesOnYou77> sandman2211: Wait, did that actually work? Just like that?
[03:22] <fhenning09> Hey does anyone know of an application that can give audible, really grab your attention gmail notifications cause I need to know when an email comes in right as they come in, any solutions, suggestions, any help would be greatly appreciated.
[03:22] <sandman2211> no, i was asking a dumb question about the cd command
[03:23] <_Neytiri_> edbian,  you think you might be able to help me or point me in the right direction
[03:23] <Onlyodin> fhenning09, like, a mail client?
[03:23] <JokesOnYou77> ahh, ok lol.  Also, if you find something in the documentation you don't understand, come back and ask the channel to interpret it, that's what we're here for
[03:23] <edbian> _Neytiri_: sure.  Wanna PM?
[03:23] <sandman2211> that article you linked to also just mentions the xrandr approach.  Guess I need to figure out how to fix that
[03:23] <sandman2211> ok thanks!
[03:23] <_Neytiri_> yes
[03:26] <urlin2u> fhenning09, I have thunderbird picking up gmail but a custom setup with edu email
[03:26] <fhenning09> notice Onlyodin really just a small notification app that can sit in my indicators on the panel
[03:27] <Onlyodin> Evolution (and probably Thunderbird) will control the mail indicator icon in the panel, give notifications, play sounds, etc.
[03:27] <fhenning09> Oh cool well I'll give em a try
[03:28] <JokesOnYou77> fhenning09: I don't know of anything off the top of my head, but for your requirement of something loud and grabbing, you could probably just use any notifier and change the notification sound and default volume
[03:29] <Onlyodin> Does anyone here have any preferences/recommendations for virtualisation on Ubuntu (desktop)? Decent graphics performance is desirable.
[03:29] <Onlyodin> err
[03:29] <fhenning09> I like VirtualBox
[03:29] <sandman2211> Onlyodin - are you doing 3d stuff in your VM?
[03:29] <Onlyodin> Did I just part or get kicked?
[03:30] <hylian> macfire, there is no realeased driver for that card yet, except one in beta stages. it is available here: http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalystOpenGL42BetaLinux.aspx
[03:30] <Onlyodin> sandman2211, 3D acceleration would be a bonus, but I guess not a requirement
[03:30] <uns0b1ll> is it possible to view speed of file transfer in console ?
[03:31] <sandman2211> I second the VirtualBox recommendation but I've never tried graphics stuff in any of my VMs.
[03:31] <sandman2211> I hear VirtualBox does well for Netflix streaming and such
[03:31] <macfire> hylian how i install this drivers?
[03:31] <Onlyodin> are there ppa's for VirtualBox?
[03:31] <macfire> hylian sudo sh file?
[03:32] <Onlyodin> Alternatively I spose I could get a VMware Workstation licence through work...
[03:32] <sandman2211> what's ppa?
[03:32] <fhenning09> Me either just use Virtualbox for stuff like running Adobe creative suite and dtuff I need that I can't get wine to work with
[03:32] <Onlyodin> repository?
[03:32] <hylian> macfire, first you have to download it. then you will have to log in in safe mode or stop x11's service, called gdm, and then you will have to run the program, are you fairly knowledgeable about linux?
[03:33] <sandman2211> VMWare Workstation licenses are free now I think
[03:33] <Onlyodin> oh, really?
[03:33] <hylian> * not called gdm, i mist be tired.
[03:33] <hylian> macfire, yes, but not while x is running.
[03:33] <sandman2211> Yeah, as of 3 years ago when I last tried.  I had to register my email address and phone number and all that, then they email some keys
[03:34] <sandman2211> But I haven't used it in 3 years so maybe that changed.  I use VirtualBox now and performance is the same or better, GUI is easy to use, pretty simple and to the point
[03:34] <Onlyodin> Are you sure you're not thinking of ESXi?
[03:34] <Onlyodin> or VMware Server rather than workstation?
[03:35] <macfire> hylian how i stop ?
[03:35] <macfire> hylian how i stop X?
[03:35] <fhenning09> just open it with the package manager
[03:35] <sandman2211> I cant remember, could have been one of those
[03:35] <hylian> macfire to stop x11, you will need to type this: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop. now, make sure to write this all down, because after you succeed at this, you will no longer have the desktop, it will be a black screen with a cursro
[03:36] <hylian> macfire, *cursor.
[03:36] <macfire> ok
[03:36] <kevin> 有装防火墙的必要吗
[03:36] <wildbat> !cn | kevin
[03:37] <bazhang> !ufw > kevin
[03:37] <hylian> macfire, depending on what type of file it is, you may have to gain ownership of it, by typeing chown a+x (name of file), then ./(name of file) without the () ofcorase.
[03:37] <JokesOnYou77> hylian: Wait, he'll still have a cursor after stopping X?
[03:37] <macfire> hylian file is .run
[03:37] <hylian> the blinking i beam yes.
[03:37] <macfire> i read the readme
[03:37] <hylian> JokesOnYou77, or i should say the blinking box.
[03:38] <macfire> hylian http://www2.ati.com/relnotes/Catalyst_11.7_Linux_Installer.pdf
[03:38] <hylian> macfire, good, then you will want to sh (name of file) after chown a+x (name of file)
[03:38] <bugaloo> how can I reload my sound drivers (snd-hda-intel) without reboot?
[03:39] <JokesOnYou77> hylian: Ahh, just checking
[03:39] <bugaloo> I tried alsa force-reload but it doesn't seem to reload actually
[03:40] <laxonmind> hi I am new to irc. I signed up on the ubuntu forms but never get the confirmation email have try 2 email account and check the spam fold. I need help with a unknow monitor on an ibm thinkpad r51
[03:41] <hylian> macfire, hmm, i might have been mistaken, you used to have to kill x11 first, try and sh the file before you do all that.. it show x11 running here.
[03:41] <bazhang> laxonmind, for the ubuntuforums problem, try #ubuntuforums
[03:42] <YBNORML> lol
[03:42] <laxonmind> thx
[03:44] <hylian> macfire, any success?
[03:45] <hylian> bugaloo, i could be wrong, but i think going into the sound setup, clicking off your hardware and onto the null setup, and then doing the opposite atleast resets pulse audio.
[03:46]  * hylian 's brain is a pound of overcooked oatmeal
[03:46] <bugaloo> hylian, let me try
[03:47] <hylian> m00se, hello again
[03:48] <bugaloo> hylian, haha, I did stop it... but I can't load again
[03:48] <bugaloo> hylian, thanks anyway, that's what I needed, just look for the rest here
[03:49] <hylian> bugaloo, arghh. that particular intel chipset is the bane of my linux sound world. you don't happen to have a dell with two sound cards do you?
[03:49] <bugaloo> hylian, no... I have a dv2000 hp laptop
[03:50] <bugaloo> hylian, i have a stupid problem with sound card since ubuntu 8.04 and I never could solve it
[03:50] <bugaloo> times to times I try, but never got success, hehe
[03:51] <hylian> bugaloo, good. some companies where shipping their machines with an ati sound card for regular use,  and that intel chipset for hdmi sound, and the two fight each other in linux, because one uses pulse audio, and the other uses alsa
[03:51] <phrostbite> Is there a setting in the ubuntu defaults the will allow you to always connect you to everything through a proxy whether it's an app or a browser?
[03:52] <hylian> bugaloo, you should go into your bios, and see if you can find two sound devices, and if you can, turn one off, preferably the intel.
[03:52] <bugaloo> hylian, it's a bit old computer here... I'm sure there is a way to fix it, but I never found it... found some forum guys with the same problem and no solution
[03:52] <bugaloo> hylian, my sound works fine... it just doesn't work as I'd wish with headphones
[03:53] <hylian> bugaloo, ohh that problem, yes. i don't know why, but it sends the output to the wrong channel. never figured that one out myself.
[03:53] <bugaloo> hylian, yeah... it seems it doesn't recognize the headphones propely
[03:54] <hylian> macfire, did you get any success
[03:54] <bugaloo> it doesn't mute my speakers and so on
[03:54] <renzhi> Hi, I plug in my android phone, but Ubuntu does not recognize it, I got the error:
[03:54] <renzhi> hub 4-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 5
[03:54] <renzhi> can someone give a hint what's going wrong?
[03:55] <JokesOnYou77> bugaloo: I have the exact same problem on my desktop, never bothered to figure it out cause it tunrs out I get a much better signal going straight into the audio out
[03:56] <bugaloo> JokesOnYou77, yep... it happens that sometimes I want to see some video on my laptop without bother other people
[03:56] <KM0201> renzhi: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[03:57] <phrostbite> Is there a setting in the ubuntu defaults the will allow you to always connect you to everything through a proxy whether it's an app or a browser?
[03:57] <hylian> renzhi, are you using a usb hub?
[03:57] <driller_work> hey all - let's assume you are adminstrating a huge amount of ubuntu servers (no GUI) -- what type of deployment system would you prefer? I am looking at something where I can easily update X amount of machines with a image/snapshot I've created on one machine
[03:57] <renzhi> hylian: no
[03:57] <urlin2u> renzhi, have you tried #android over 400 people shown
[03:57] <renzhi> just the usb cable provided in the box
[03:57] <JokesOnYou77> bugaloo: This is really a shot in the dark, but is there any chance that pulse settings has multiple outputs you can check?
[03:57] <bugaloo> and I get really pissed when I cant solve a problem, hehe
[03:58] <dsnyders> driller_work, You might wish to take a look at ghost for linux
[03:58] <bugaloo> JokesOnYou77, I really dont know... i'm kinda stupid about how pulse works... I've tried to change some alsa settings, but I'm a bit lost about pulse
[03:58] <renzhi> urlin2u: it used to work just fine, then suddenly, nothing works, I figure it might an ubuntu issue
[03:58] <dsnyders> driller_work, Oh, and clonezilla
[03:59] <urlin2u> renzhi, take out the flashcard and try, would be my first try.
[03:59] <KM0201> renzhi: http://osdir.com/ml/Android-Developers/2011-08/msg02252.html
[03:59] <hylian> renzhi, i did some research on that bug, and I am afraid it's a hardware bug. the messages can be suppressed, but i think urlin2u's suggestion is best, the people over at #android may have run into this problem before.
[03:59] <driller_work> dsnyders: Yeah, I am used to norton ghost and have seen clonezilla but I am not quite sure if it is considered to be "good" in a enterprise environment...would you personally rely on something like clonezilla in a big enterprise?
[03:59] <KM0201> hylian: looks like there's a solution....  http://osdir.com/ml/Android-Developers/2011-08/msg02252.html
[03:59] <JokesOnYou77> bugaloo: Me too, but have you installed pavucontrol and paprefs?
[03:59] <dc5ala> phrostbite, that sounds more like a router, proxies are usually specialized (web proxy etc.) and can do caching
[04:00] <shadowh511> where can I get help with apache vhosts?
[04:00] <driller_work> ((we're talking over 1500 servers here that needs to be managed in a quick and pain-free fashion))
[04:00] <bugaloo> JokesOnYou77, yes... tried to play with pavucontrol
[04:00] <renzhi> hylian: I also think it's a hardware issue
[04:00] <genesect> hylian: looks like there's probably a low-ish volume kernel security mailing list would get any success
[04:00] <driller_work> shadowh511 try #apache or ask your question here; I am sure there are plenty of people willing to help you in regards to apache related questions.. ((you can pm me if you wish))
[04:00] <renzhi> hylian: I think it's either my usb cable, or the usb port problem
[04:00] <dsnyders> driller_work, I've used norton ghost, but I haven't used either clonezilla or ghost4linux, so I can't say.
[04:00] <bugaloo> JokesOnYou77, actually... I didn't have paprefs installed, only pavucontrol
[04:01] <JokesOnYou77> bugaloo: that's really all I got, srry :/
[04:01] <bugaloo> installing right now
[04:01] <genesect> some credibility to the scope of my original breath, there was present a male humanoid whose occupation was present a router, proxies are usually specialized (web proxy etc.) and now our residence is a quick and the other uses pulse audio, and the other uses alsa
[04:01] <hylian> renzhi, if you have some net protocol chops, you should consider KM0201's idea, i looked it up, it's doable.
[04:01] <driller_work> dsnyders: ok, I'm a fan of norton ghost too - I'll check out both of them, thanks for the input!
[04:01] <hylian> sorry all, i can't think straight anymore, good night.
[04:01] <renzhi> urlin2u: I did try this option, it didn't work :)
[04:01] <JokesOnYou77> bugaloo: maybe still a chance then? I'm in Win7 now and I can't really remember which does what, give it a shot
[04:01] <genesect> i'm just dumb, how come linux will allow you to be updated to be good in my android phone, but ubuntu does not recognize it, but ubuntu does not recognize it, i never bothered to figure it out cause it tunrs out i repartion my external portable hard drive already.
[04:02] <bugaloo> JokesOnYou77, that's ok... thanks anyway... i'll try to dig about this
[04:02] <JokesOnYou77> good luck
[04:02] <KM0201> genesect: no offense but that didn't really no offense but that didn't really make sense
[04:02] <genesect> psi-jack: uhmm, read and i can't really all i got, srry :/
[04:02] <dsnyders> driller_work, I have a PXE boot environment set up so that I can load/run ghost from across the network without boot media.
[04:02] <phrostbite> dc5ala, I found what I was looking for. It was under system --> network proxy
[04:02] <renzhi> I think I had another cable somewhere, I'll need to find it to figure out if it's my cable issue
[04:05] <Onlyodin> Nah, VMware Workstation is definitely still a non-free product
[04:07] <macfire> urlin2u I managed to install the driver
[04:08] <urlin2u> macfire, cool where was it?
[04:08] <macfire> urlin2u i have download the beta drivers for ati
[04:08] <J466> what's the meaning of /bin/sh not found ?
[04:08] <macfire> now, i update my version of ubuntu
[04:08] <genesect> chewed-on: there's a free version
[04:08] <Onlyodin> The new HP Pavilion notebooks have a double-tap top left corner to disable the synaptics touchpad (in Windows at least). Does anyone know how to get this working in Ubuntu?
[04:08] <genesect> i once new a battlefield 2 server with the same problem
[04:09] <urlin2u> macfire, cool I had seen references to that on the web as well.
[04:09] <J466> -    /bin/sh: makeinfo : command not found
[04:11] <apathadeus> how do you people feel about unity?
[04:11] <HeGuru> Onlyodin: try GPointingDeviceSetting, not sure if it has that setting though
[04:11] <phrostbite> It unites us
[04:11] <apathadeus> into common love or common hate for the interface?
[04:11] <HeGuru> !ot | apathadeus
[04:12] <driller_work> j4q8: how are you calling the "makeinfo" command? /bin/sh makeinfo ?
[04:12] <JokesOnYou77> It's a travesty
[04:12] <sandman2211> I prefer the old interface.  Tried to use Unity but got very frustrated very quickly
[04:12] <Onlyodin> apathadeus, I hate finding applications in Unity. Give me back my menus.
[04:12] <apathadeus> i see
[04:13] <apathadeus> it makes me a sad panda too :(
[04:13] <sandman2211> What good is 2-clicks-to-anything when you have to wade thru a list of every app on your system?  I don't get that entire mindset; it's not like clicks cost money or something
[04:14] <Peablog> Gnome Desktop in Ubuntu 9.10 is perfect
[04:14] <Onlyodin> HeGuru, is GPointingDeviceSettings in gconf-editor or something?
[04:14] <urlin2u> #ubuntu-offtopic  ;-)
[04:15] <HeGuru> Onlyodin: you have to install gpointing-device-settings package
[04:15] <JokesOnYou77> I do actually lie the search, and some of the look, but they killed my shortcuts!!!
[04:15] <JokesOnYou77> I'm done now
[04:16] <Onlyodin> HeGuru, thanks, looking now.
[04:17] <Loshki> J466: makeinfo is in package texi2html I believe, which you need to install....
[04:21] <n-iCe> hi
[04:21] <n-iCe> i have a question is there any way to grab/take a wireless drivers?
[04:22] <shadowh511> n-iCe, what do you mean?
[04:22] <n-iCe> I mean how to know hich drivers and files I am using in other distro and use them in other
[04:22] <genesect> urlin2u i have download the beta drivers for ati
[04:22] <shadowh511> n-iCe, what distro?
[04:22] <n-iCe> I have tried lot of distros and in this one the wireless card works awesome and in ubuntu does not work at all
[04:22] <n-iCe> pentoo
[04:22] <shadowh511> gentoo?
[04:22] <n-iCe> I am in pentoo channel nobody answer, so please try to not send me there
[04:22] <n-iCe> pentoo, gentoo based I Guess
[04:23] <HeGuru> n-iCe: its easier to just use lspci and find out the wireless model and search for the ubuntu support for it
[04:23] <n-iCe> HeGuru:  I did, I downloaded lot of drivers for ubuntu, they just does not work at all
[04:23] <n-iCe> is an awuso36h wireless card chipset rtl8187 driver
[04:23] <HeGuru> n-iCe: whats the make/model of the wireless interface?
[04:24] <n-iCe> you got it a line above
[04:24] <HeGuru> n-iCe: is it usb?
[04:25] <Flatlined> I have the same prob. n-iCe!
[04:26] <n-iCe> HeGuru:  yes
[04:26] <n-iCe> Flatlined:  the card will work awesome if you use pentoo that-s why I wanna know exactly the drivers being used by pentoo and how to take them
[04:26] <genesect> is an awuso36h wireless card works awesome and in other
[04:27] <n-iCe> emerge
[04:27] <Flatlined> n-iCe where did you find pentoo ?
[04:28] <n-iCe> surfing
[04:28] <n-iCe> reading
[04:28] <uwe> moin
[04:28] <shadowh511> n-iCe, you mean *gentoo*
[04:29] <n-iCe> no, PENTOO
[04:29] <laxonmind> anyone have experience with unknown monitors
[04:29] <genesect> anyone else mentioned this?
[04:29] <shadowh511> okay, i guess there is a pentoo
[04:29] <n-iCe> there is
[04:29] <n-iCe> how can I Know the drivers it is using
[04:29] <genesect> bugaloo, you leave the shell is the arbitrary oxymoronic overwrought bane of the water, and files i am using in other distro and use them
[04:29] <n-iCe> I Know it is rtl8187
[04:29] <genesect> it's like a wireless card chipset rtl8187 driver
[04:29] <n-iCe> wanna know the exact version and all the files
[04:29] <genesect> why i wanna know hich drivers and files i never found it..
[04:30] <n-iCe> no idea then?
[04:30] <bugaloo> huh?
[04:32] <Flatlined> Compat-wireless  I think
[04:32] <n-iCe> I thought the same
[04:32] <Poeir> I'm in the process of migrating from Mac to Ubuntu.  I'm trying to import my iTunes library into Banshee, but I'm getting a lot of "File does not exist" errors.  This seems to be related to precomposed versus decomposed Unicode encoding.  I used convmv, and it reduced the number of errors, but I'm still getting some.  What I think I'd like to do is use rsync and iconv to convert, but when I do that I get iconv_open(...) failed, "request
[04:32] <Poeir> ed action not supported (code 4)"  Any ideas?
[04:32] <n-iCe> but installed the last compat-wireless tar ball in ubuntu and did not work that well
[04:32] <Flatlined> i wish it was compiled
[04:33] <Flatlined> compat-wireless tar ball needs to be compiled
[04:33] <n-iCe> ./configure
[04:33] <n-iCe> make
[04:33] <n-iCe> make install
[04:33] <dsnyders> bugaloo, I deleted all of the file links in my "backups" and restarted the search.  It seems to be going a lot faster.  Still hasn't found the target though.
[04:33] <n-iCe> thats easy
[04:33] <n-iCe> and I did it
[04:33] <FloodBot1> n-iCe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:33] <shadowh511> n-iCe, sudo make install
[04:33] <ihsw> how do i access the onscreen keyboard
[04:33] <n-iCe> correct I Used sudo of course
[04:34] <n-iCe> that-s not even my question
[04:34] <n-iCe> the first question was how to know the files being used from my wireless card as drivers
[04:34] <genesect> sorry all, i wanna know exactly the drivers being used by pentoo
[04:34] <n-iCe> ME TOO
[04:34] <n-iCe> but pentoo chan is dead
[04:34] <bugaloo> dsnyders, let's pray, hehe
[04:34] <bugaloo> or prey
[04:34] <bugaloo> bad english, sorry
[04:34] <Flatlined> Me 3
[04:34] <ihsw> does anybody know where i can find the onscreen keyboard app
[04:34] <genesect> for more like a male humanoid whose occupation was to abuse surface tenstion and see if you can i access the onscreen keyboard
[04:35] <shadowh511> that's a sentence jalopy is i've ever seen one
[04:35] <alikhj> how do i access boot-repair?
[04:35] <Marcus> What an interesting story mark
[04:35] <alikhj> i already installed it... but can't find it in the control center
[04:36] <shadowh511> alikhj, check the menus
[04:36] <shadowh511> alikhj, most devs don't put it in the control centre for whatever reason
[04:36] <alikhj> shadowh511: thanks! do you mean the menus that pop up for the control center?
[04:37] <ihsw> so where is the onscreen keyboard in ubuntu, i'm really having a hard time finding it with only a mouse to work with
[04:37] <shadowh511> alikhj, i mean the apps, places, and system menu
[04:37] <shadowh511> ihsw, kde has a better On-screen keyboard
[04:38] <alikhj> shadowh511: ive checked there, even searched it but can't find anything
[04:38] <ihsw> shadowh511: thank you sir i am using the standard ubuntu installation though, could you help me out in finding where i can find the onscreen keyboard in the standard ubuntu installation (11.04)?
[04:38] <shadowh511> alikhj, what package?
[04:39] <shadowh511> ihsw, i don't know ifthere is one
[04:39] <genesect> ihsw, kde has a chance then?
[04:39] <alikhj> shadowh511: boot-repair
[04:39] <Deumosekto> I get a problem where Randomly wont be able to click a certain menu or window that pops up, during and after installation. For instance while I'm partitioning i double click the partition I want to configure and have to navigate the window that pops up with my keyboard because the mouse cant click anywhere on it, or after installation i wont be able to click anywhere or move the firefox window when I run it, i have to randoml
[04:39] <Deumosekto> y click anything until it works. Another example is i open my desktop appearance settings and go to the Effects tab and choose Extra, then when Simple-ccsm comes up i cant click anything in the window, only works with keyboard navigation. These are not the only times it happens it happens randomly with any program. This Hasnt always happened, it only started recently.
[04:39] <alikhj> shadowh511: a ha! found it... i jsut reinstalled it from the software center and it popped up in the control center
[04:39] <shadowh511> alikhj, yay
[04:40] <ihsw> where in ubuntu (11.04 GNOME+UNITY) is the onscreen keyboard
[04:41] <shadowh511> ihsw, in the repositories i think
[04:41] <Deumosekto> nobody?
[04:41] <linuxuz3r> ihsw, what tablet are you using
[04:41] <laxonmind> I have an external monitor that is not detected and need help with the driver of x.org config
[04:41] <ihsw> linuxuz3r: asus eee slate
[04:41] <linuxuz3r> cool
[04:42] <ihsw> shadowh511: is that accessible with only a mouse to work with?
[04:42] <shadowh511> ihsw, if you can get an internet connection, yes
[04:43] <ihsw> shadowh511: the machien has no internet access
[04:43] <shadowh511> ihsw, you are caught in a catch-22
[04:44] <javatexan_> howdy, I have ubuntu 11.04 and I am setting up a vm to bridge with eth0.  Problem is that eth0 is snagging the IP address and the Vm cant use it...  right now i have eth0 setup as auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp.  Can I change this when I startup my virtualbox VM to release the dhcp and allow the VM to get it?
[04:44] <genesect> if you can, turn one off, preferably the will allow you to me
[04:44] <javatexan_> Is this possible?
[04:46] <laxonmind> shadowh511 you could use character map  in Application>Accessories and drag and drop test to the copy text section
[04:48] <shadowh511> laxonmind, if you have the paitence of a saint
[04:48] <laxonmind> it is better than nothing
[04:48] <shadowh511> laxonmind, true
[04:48] <laxonmind> could get you to were need to go to get something better
[04:49] <shadowh511> laxonmind, true
[04:50] <shadowh511> so, what's up with you all?
[04:50] <shadowh511> i just caught genesect in pokemon
[04:50] <genesect> ihsw, you are caught in win7 now our residence is that eth0 is misconfiguration
[04:51] <laxonmind> any thoughts on video output to a second monitor almost 1/3 of the screen is black dose not show up in monitors
[04:51] <IdleOne> !ot | shadowh511
[04:51] <shadowh511> andi thought this was the offtopic channel, i fail
[04:53] <laxonmind> do you just keep asking your question until you get a answer?
[04:53] <akerl> laxonmind: Only if you want to be ignored
[04:54] <laxonmind> I feel like it is already happening :(
[04:54] <shadowh511> laxonmind, what video card?
[04:54] <laxonmind> intel onboard
[04:55] <shadowh511> laxonmind, there is your problem
[04:55] <laxonmind> from what i read online everyone has video problem with 11.04
[04:57] <laxonmind> more specificly intel 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device
[04:59] <henry-> I'm trying to get some files out of my samsung gt-s5600, when I connect the phone via USB and select mass storage the device mounts for a few seconds then disappears
[05:00] <henry-> bluetooth isn't an option for me and I'd like to believe that there's a more convenient way to get the files out than having a virtual windows machine
[05:01] <henry-> any protips?
[05:02] <SixEch0> Henry-, I had that problem with my droid and it turned out to be the usb cable. Just a thought
[05:02] <urlin2u> henry-, get a card reader and go that way.
[05:02] <wildbat> henry-: i use ssh to transfer files. but it is strange that the device disappears. check log see if you have any clue ~ and make sure the wire is firmly inserted.
[05:04] <uragan> hi
[05:05] <uragan> anybody know wy bt5 video and audio is absence
[05:05] <genesect> does anybody know where i run it, or after installation though, could you help me as perilous
[05:06] <shadowh511> bt5?
[05:06] <shadowh511> uragan, bt5?
[05:06] <uragan> yes
[05:06] <shadowh511> define bt5 please
[05:07] <uragan> backtrack
[05:07] <IdleOne> !backtrack
[05:07] <shadowh511> uragan, what ubottu said plus backtrack traces your activities
[05:08] <uragan> so what
[05:08] <uragan> anybody advise
[05:08] <SixEch0> Try #backtrack-linux
[05:08] <uragan> moment
[05:08] <IdleOne> uragan: BT support in #backtrack-linux
[05:11] <uragan> i dont know why , but i have baned on bactrack-linux
[05:11] <genesect> why is a certain column take precedence in a mouse to be good in monitors
[05:13] <IdleOne> uragan: because you are running as root
[05:14] <uragan> No one player , cant play songs , what it mean ? codecs is absence?
[05:14] <IdleOne> uragan: change the ident in your irc client and try to rejoin
[05:14] <uragan> anybody alive
[05:14] <uragan> ?
[05:14] <wildbat> ....
[05:15] <shadowh511> uragan, I am alive
[05:15] <uragan> good
[05:15] <uragan> answer to me
[05:15] <wildbat> !ot | uragan , we don't care. This we don't support BT nor operation of any channel. try #freenode
[05:15] <IdleOne> uragan: I did
[05:15] <uragan> if you can
[05:15] <uragan> ubuntu and bt5 almost similary
[05:16] <uragan> thats why i am here
[05:16] <IdleOne> uragan: running irc as root is not a good idea. change your ident and seek support in #backtrack-linux
[05:16] <bullgard4_> With me, /etc/blkid.tab is in Lucid and Natty a dead symlink. Can I simply delet it, or how can I tackle this problem?
[05:16] <lhavelund> Even though this isn't strictly related, and #lighttpd would be a better ressource (if there was any activity), I'm going to give it a shot here anyway. I can't get a virtual host to respond; it seems to time out. My config can be found here: http://pastebin.com/qn4bBkmz
[05:16] <IdleOne> backtrack is not supported here, it is similar but NOT Ubuntu.
[05:16] <shadowh511> uragan, /j #backtrack-linux
[05:16] <uragan> i have baned at this channel
[05:16] <uragan> i dont know why
[05:17] <IdleOne> I told you why
[05:17] <uragan> i never vizited bt linux channel
[05:17] <urlin2u> uragan, install vlc off the web and cal it a day.
[05:17] <IdleOne> stop talking and start reading the responses given to you.
[05:17] <uragan> aaaa
[05:17] <urlin2u> call
[05:17] <kevin> you ask too much
[05:17] <uragan> its ok
[05:17] <akerl> uragan: Are you registered?
[05:17] <uragan> no
[05:17] <shadowh511> !ops uragan
[05:17] <uragan> is it requaire
[05:17] <wildbat> uragan you may be banned here too if you don't listen :>
[05:17] <uragan> ?
[05:18] <akerl> A) Don't irc as root. B) register
[05:18] <uragan> i am already leasten
[05:18] <akerl> Then join the backtrack channel and ask them
[05:18] <uragan> slow down
[05:18] <akerl> You are currently on irc as root.
[05:18] <akerl> uragan has userhost ~root@78.30.229.232 and realname root
[05:18] <KM0201> akerl: he might be here on a live cd..
[05:18] <KM0201> !rootirc
[05:18] <uragan> roger
[05:18] <IdleOne> he can change his ident on a live cd
[05:19] <KM0201> IdleOne: this is true.. no argument there
[05:19] <shadowh511> lol
[05:19] <shadowh511> did someone kill him?
[05:19] <phrostbite> How do you use a bz2 file?
[05:19] <polifasio> uragan...
[05:19] <KM0201> shadowh511: guess he went to troll elsewhere.
[05:19] <akerl> phrostbite: Use?
[05:20] <akerl> You mean extract?
[05:20] <shadowh511> KM0201, good riddance
[05:20] <lhavelund> phrostbite: bz2 is a bzipped file. basically, a compressed file.
[05:20] <wildbat> phrostbite: double click it , or bzip in cli
[05:20] <lhavelund> phrostbite: to use it, usually, you'd do bzip2 -x <file>, if I recall correctly.
[05:20] <phrostbite> Thank you I was not sure exactly what type of file it was
[05:20] <lhavelund> phrostbite: very welcome.
[05:21] <phrostbite> Hmm now it's a tar file lol
[05:21] <lhavelund> ah!
[05:21] <shadowh511> tar -xvf <name?
[05:21] <phrostbite> Man is there a linux for dummies book?
[05:21] <shadowh511> tar -xvf <name> *
[05:21] <akerl> phrostbite: google.
[05:21] <phrostbite> Or irc ;)
[05:21] <IdleOne> phrostbite: there is
[05:21] <KM0201> !manual | phrostbite
[05:21] <lhavelund> phrostbite: .tar is a file format used to create archives with files; .bz2 is a file format used to compress it. you can hit two birds with one stone by using tar -xvf <filename.tar.bz2> to extract AND decompress the file.
[05:22] <urlin2u> phrostbite, http://www.amazon.com/Linux-Dummies-6th-Dee-Ann-LeBlanc/dp/0764579371
[05:22] <shadowh511> uragan made it to #backtrack-linux
[05:22] <phrostbite> lol
[05:22] <uragan> yes
[05:22] <phrostbite> Thank you everybody for all the info
[05:22] <KM0201> i think those "for dummies" books.. when it comes to Linux, are useless.
[05:22] <lhavelund> Welcome :)
[05:22] <uragan> must i register?
[05:22] <IdleOne> no
[05:22] <shadowh511> do you want to speak?
[05:22] <KM0201> lol
[05:22] <uragan> why i cant send anything into channel?
[05:22] <IdleOne> !register | uragan
[05:22] <gack> I ran sudo grub-install but I don't have a menu.lst file. I can't boot ubuntu, my grub menu is blank. any thoughts?
[05:22] <akerl> IdleOne: Except yes
[05:23] <JokesOnYou77> KM0201: I disagree, I love the for Dummies Series, even the ubuntu one.  Got me started.  Forums are definitely better tho
[05:23] <IdleOne> akerl: sorry didn't realize they were +r
[05:23] <akerl> Those backtrack folk are serious business :p
[05:23] <urlin2u> gack, yes grub2 is the grub,  not legacy
[05:23] <phrostbite> So what do I do after i tar -xvf filename? it has a huge list of files and such that is in there.
[05:23] <gack> urlin2u: hey, so do i need to download grub 2?
[05:24] <urlin2u> gack,  can you explain the problem?
[05:24] <KM0201> JokesOnYou77: i dunno, everytime i pick up a Linux "For Dummies" (including Ubuntu) book.. it's horribly dated.  Last one i picked up, was Fedora, and was based on fedora 7 (they're at version 15 now)... some o it is still good info, but a lot of it doesn't apply.... and they sure as heck weren't charging less for it cuz it was so dated... and it had an awesome, up to date fedora 7 cd w/ it.. :))
[05:24] <shadowh511> gack, good work of advice, don't frack around with bootloaders
[05:25] <KM0201> gack: explain your problem a little better...
[05:25] <uns0b1ll> got 3 serial usb adapters on ubuntu, how to view them ? dmesg ?
[05:25] <urlin2u> uns0b1ll, lsusb
[05:25] <JokesOnYou77> I got the newest ubuntu version, was good enough to teach me some command line basics, rest was trash tho
[05:25] <uns0b1ll> urlin2u, thnx
[05:25] <KM0201> JokesOnYou77: what version is it based on?
[05:26] <wildbat> KM0201:  may be the linux world is changing too fast ~ where the writer finally done and QA publish ~ wohla it is OLD ! :>
[05:26] <shadowh511> JokesOnYou77, http://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php
[05:26] <uns0b1ll> urlin2u, Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[05:26] <uns0b1ll> Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[05:26] <uns0b1ll> Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[05:26] <uns0b1ll> Bus 005 Device 029: ID 046d:c05a Logitech, Inc. Optical Mouse M90
[05:26] <uns0b1ll> Bus 005 Device 028: ID 1038:0210 Ideazon, Inc.
[05:26] <uns0b1ll> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[05:26] <FloodBot1> uns0b1ll: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:26] <gaelfx> does RAM generally use the same amount of power when it's full as compared to when it's half full? or does it usually kill power to the RAM not being used?
[05:26] <KM0201> wildbat: i think thats exactly it.. thus why i think using forums, internet sites, irc, etc.. is a better option.
[05:26] <gaelfx> apologies, I probably ought to ask in #hrdware
[05:26] <gack> Sure. I installed ubuntu but when I restart it didn't do anything. I went on this forum another time and someone helped me run sudo grub install, it didn't come up with a menu.lst file though. when I restartede it it goes to a grub screen waiting for entry and nothing else happens.  urlin2u KM0201
[05:27] <IdleOne> meta discussions welcome in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[05:27] <shadowh511> what is mode +z?
[05:27] <JokesOnYou77> KM0201: Wait, ur right, they're trash.  I have hacking wireless for dummies., my linux book is Beginning Ubuntu Linux, much better than for dummies
[05:27] <wildbat> KM0201: agree ~ and that's why irc still hang on from dying ;p
[05:27] <uns0b1ll> so i only viewing 2 not 3
[05:27] <KM0201> JokesOnYou77: ok, big different... i bought that book years ago.. its handy
[05:27] <uns0b1ll> hmm wonder if third one got lost
[05:27] <JokesOnYou77> shadowh511: Thank you!  That link looks great
[05:27] <shadowh511> JokesOnYou77, np
[05:27] <rumpe1> hacking wireless for dummies? o.O
[05:28] <KM0201> gack: what version of ubuntu did you install?
[05:28] <JokesOnYou77> hehe, it's whitehat stuff, I swear
[05:28] <gack> KM0201: the latest one. 11.4 I think it was.
[05:28] <urlin2u> gack boot a live ubuntu cd same as the installed ubuntu and run this command, in home a RESULTS.text will appear paste all the text to a pastebin.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/667640/
[05:28] <shadowh511> gack, run lsb_release in a terminal
[05:28] <fhenning09> Is there an app that would allow me to open extract, etc etc disv image files like uif, daa without having to drop to pull up the CLI everytime?
[05:28] <KM0201> i think he's on a live cd shadowh511 .. but if he's on the same live cd, that should help
[05:29] <KM0201> shadeslayer_: and actually, lsb_release -a   will give a newb better info on that.. :) (I imagine thats what you meant)
[05:29] <gack> shadowh511: it says 'no LSB modules are available'
[05:29] <gaelfx> fhenning09: you could probably write a shell script for that
[05:29] <IdleOne> gack: lsb_release -a
[05:29] <KM0201> gack: lsb_release -a (make sure there's a space after release)
[05:30] <bonez2046> help - I have a machine that usually runs win xp but it is set up for dual booot to 10.04 too; I can't access it, been too long ago, need to reset password.. how can I get to root prompt to reset my user id and root's?
[05:30] <_Neytiri_> i am getting this error when tryingto run a bash acript
[05:30] <_Neytiri_> bash: ./nau.sh: /bin/bash^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[05:30] <shadowh511> gack, run lsb_release -v
[05:30] <gack> KM0201: ubuntu 11.04 natty
[05:30] <urlin2u> gack,  you see my message on the bootscript.
[05:30] <shadowh511> _Neytiri_, did you write it in windows?
[05:30] <rumpe1> _Neytiri_, correct the line ending in the script
[05:30] <KM0201> gack: ok, if you're using 11.04, you don't have a menu.lst, you're using grub2, which uses grub.conf
[05:30] <wildbat> bonez2046: there is rescue mode in grub menu , fromt here you can have root#
[05:30] <KM0201> !grub2 | gac
[05:31] <KM0201> gack: see above
[05:31] <_Neytiri_> shadowh511,  no i didnt
[05:31] <KM0201> unfortunately, trouble shooting grub, is not my forte.
[05:31] <gack> urlin2u: thanks. missed it. I'll have a look.
[05:32] <bonez2046> wildbat: I can get the recovery mode, but I drop to prompt and it give the Enter Root Pass or hit Control-D to continue..
[05:32] <shadowh511> _Neytiri_, did you download it?
[05:32] <laxonmind> how do you restart X server
[05:32] <_Neytiri_> no i wrote it
[05:32] <shadowh511> in gedit?
[05:32] <urlin2u> gack, I forgot to tab you here it is again.  boot a live ubuntu cd same as the installed ubuntu and run this command, in home a RESULTS.text will appear paste all the text to a pastebin.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/667640/
[05:32] <KM0201> laxonmind: control alt prtscr K
[05:32] <KM0201> (beware, that will kill x immediately)
[05:32] <gack> urlin2u: is all the stuff you put in that paste file a single line command?
[05:32] <rumpe1> _Neytiri_, convert it with "sed -i 's/^M//' filenamehere"
[05:32] <_Neytiri_> Notepad ++ under wine
[05:32] <uns0b1ll> just ran lsusb - usb serial is there... but which /dev/usb is that ?
[05:33] <rumpe1> _Neytiri_, first make a backup
[05:33] <urlin2u> gack, yeah
[05:33] <uns0b1ll> Bus 003 Device 003: ID 067b:2303 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial Port
[05:33] <uns0b1ll> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 1a86:7523 QinHeng Electronics HL-340 USB-Serial adapter
[05:33] <uns0b1ll> this is for my ser2net.conf
[05:33] <wildbat> bonez2046: then you have SET a root passwd then , you have to boot LiveCD , to disable or change it with chroot
[05:33] <rumpe1> _Neytiri_, wine is windows-like and causes incompatible line endings
[05:33]  * KM0201 misses control alt backspace.. :)
[05:33] <urlin2u> uns0b1ll, use a pastebin.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[05:33] <_Neytiri_> ah i tried editing it in vi and there was no weird line endings
[05:33] <IdleOne> !dontzap > KM0201
[05:34] <rumpe1> _Neytiri_, sorry, command had an error
[05:34] <KM0201> IdleOne: yeah, i know.. i don't think it wworks on 11.04 though, does it?
[05:34] <IdleOne> KM0201: it should if the package is in the repos
[05:34] <laxonmind> is there a better way to get video card to be detected than x server restart?
[05:34] <KM0201> IdleOne: its not to my knowledge
[05:34] <KM0201> !info dontzap
[05:34] <IdleOne> hmm interesting
[05:34] <KM0201> ;)
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> KM0201: you wanting ctrl+alt+backspace back?
[05:34] <wildbat> bonez2046: or search Kon Boot. i heard it can get in w/o a password but i have never try it .
[05:34] <KM0201> ActionParsnip: no.. i have it back.. but only cuz lxde is awesome..lol
[05:35] <KM0201> don't know how to do it w/ gnome (don't care.. just mentioning i like it better than the new way)
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> KM0201: too right!
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> KM0201: under keyboard -> layout -> options there is an option to re-enable it there.
[05:36] <KM0201> ActionParsnip: i thought that went away in 11.04?
[05:36] <gaelfx> fhenning09: testing
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> K
[05:36] <laxonmind> me to
[05:36] <KM0201> i know it was there in 10.10, but thought it was gone in 11.04.
[05:36] <ArseneRe1> I'm using awesome wm on ubuntu, but since 11.04 it's not reading my .xinitrc or .xession. Any ideas?
[05:37] <uns0b1ll> any1 with ser2net experience ?
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> KM0201: its there, just buried. I believe it's labeled "combination to kill x server"
[05:37] <uns0b1ll> my dev/ttyS0 is missing
[05:38] <KM0201> ActionParsnip: hmm like i said, i thought it had been changed in 11.04.. i remember looking for it, and didn't see it where it used to be (you had to do it the same way in 10.10)
[05:39] <dd_> Hello I have been having a problem booting my M17x r3 and I get a flashing colored screen whenever I do (HDMI output to TV works fine)
[05:39] <jamesbrink> hey guys, is there any good current guide on securing a web server, apache2, mysql5 php5 on ubuntu 10.04?
[05:39] <KM0201> ActionParsnip: but its been so long since i used gnome/unity, i can't remember.
[05:39] <dd_> any ideas?:p
[05:39] <bonez2046> wildbat: I guess booting with live cd is best option...
[05:39] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: Key sequence to kill the X server see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/DontZap
[05:40] <KM0201> IdleOne: i think that changed though.. setting the keyboard map should work.. since dontzap isn't available anymore, its only logical that changed, but.. like i said, i dunno
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: that's the one. I was going by memory as I'm on the way to work :-)
[05:40] <KM0201> oh wait, i see, thats there because dontzap is gone
[05:41] <urlin2u> KM0201, you know the soft shut down and reboot?
[05:41] <wildbat> bonez2046: boot with  init=/bin/bash option by editing grub menu line on boot if you knoe how.
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> Dd_: what video chip does it use?
[05:41] <KM0201> urlin2u: sudo shutdown -h now ... sudo reboot -h now
[05:42] <urlin2u> KM0201, ctrl-alt-prtsc reisub for reboot o reisubo for shutdown
[05:42] <genesect> shadowh511 you could be a bad english, sorry
[05:42] <abstrakt> is it fairly common and or "best" practice to keep the system/os/kernel/bios clock set to UTC?
[05:42] <genesect> do you just keep asking your question until firestarter is not even my question was how to install the wireless interface?
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> uns0b1ll: is it for a serial mouse?
[05:42] <KM0201> urlin2u: uh.. never used that one..
[05:42] <abstrakt> because i've got this cron job that triggers a PHP script, and the PHP log is reporting UTC
[05:43] <laxonmind> dose anyone know how to switch video drivers can you do it it xrandr
[05:43] <abstrakt> so I'm guessing that actually I will need to manually adjust the cron script... i won't be able to do "once a day" on the cron using * * */1 for example
[05:43] <bonez2046> thanks, wildbat
[05:43] <urlin2u> KM0201, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[05:43] <abstrakt> because the "midnight" of the server won't be the same midnight where  I am (EST)
[05:43] <abstrakt> so am I gonna have to just manually do the calculation and subtract 5 hours from the cron time?
[05:43] <uns0b1ll> ActionParsnip, no sir, this is Usb to serial КS232 adapter.
[05:43] <abstrakt> or is there a better approach here?
[05:44] <uns0b1ll> RS232
[05:44] <abstrakt> for practical purposes, even though the server is not located in EST, it could or "should" be in terms of the people who use it
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> Genes
[05:44] <abstrakt> or rather, i guess, the people who will be using it
[05:44] <uns0b1ll> is this channel 24/7 ?
[05:44] <IdleOne> yes
[05:44] <KM0201> uns0b1ll: lol, yeah
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> uns0b1ll: let me check
[05:45] <uns0b1ll> haha did i wont the award for most awesome question :D!
[05:45] <rumpe1> uns0b1ll, even more
[05:45] <abstrakt> uns0b1ll, hahah, nope, we're closed on ramadan and thanksgiving
[05:45] <abstrakt> but not christmas
[05:45] <uns0b1ll> hahaah
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> uns0b1ll: its been a channel si
[05:45] <JokesOnYou77> No, we're here on Christmas
[05:45] <KM0201> christmas is actually kinda busy, newbs getting new stuff (laptops, ipods, etc..) trying to get them working
[05:45] <abstrakt> FNGs
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> Since late 2006. Says when you join. Its always here :-)
[05:46] <uns0b1ll> we closed for lunch between 11-12 UTC
[05:46] <rumpe1> KM0201, yeah... i always love ubuntus under the christmas tree :>
[05:46] <KM0201> :)
[05:46] <dd_> Hey,I have been having a problem booting my M17x r3 and I get a flashing colored screen whenever I do (HDMI output to TV works fine)
[05:46] <dd_> any suggestions? lol
[05:47] <dd_> using ubuntu BTW
[05:47] <wildbat> !nomodset | dd_ try that yet?
[05:47] <JokesOnYou77> And we all go by UTC lol
[05:47] <onyeex> hi
[05:48] <IdleOne> Please drop the off topic commenting
[05:48] <dd_> Try what (sry if I missed something
[05:48] <IdleOne> we can use some interesting convo in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:48] <Shinde> Hello everybody..
[05:48] <Shinde> I am using Ubuntu 10.10 with GNOME 2.32 and I want to install GNOME 3. Unfortunately, I don't have a fast Internet. So, I guess, I'll need to download a lot data (source code, i guess). But, I want to know from you guys, how much it would be exactly?
[05:48] <IdleOne> !gnome3
[05:49] <dd_> O ya I am using a Live CD (well DVD)
[05:49] <Shinde> IdleOne: I am using Maverick. Not natty.
[05:49] <KM0201> Shinde: don't risk it.
[05:49] <IdleOne> Shinde: even less supported in that case
[05:49] <rumpe1> Shinde, if you really want to try it, make a system backup or get reade for a complete reinstall
[05:50] <dd_> and I tried Wubi also
[05:50]  * KM0201 agrees with rumpe1 
[05:50] <Mankool> I did it!
[05:50] <fhenning09> where can I find sound alerts for xchat?
[05:50] <onyeex11> hi
[05:50] <Shinde> rumpe1: Would you tell me please, how can I take a complete backup for reinstall?
[05:50] <KM0201> fhenning09: edit/preferences/sound?
[05:50] <KM0201> set your alerts there, or do you want it set manually?
[05:51] <KM0201> there's so many alerts there, it'd drive you crazy to enable them all.
[05:51] <dd_> Actionsnap I use a 6690m
[05:51]  * Shinde has installed customized Linux 3.0.3 on his Maverick.
[05:51] <urlin2u> Shinde, I use clonezilla
[05:51] <dd_> and an intel GMA 3000
[05:51] <Mankool> ati & nvidia together at last!
[05:51] <Shinde> urlin2u: Okay, lemme check it out.
[05:51] <Mankool> in the same box 2gcards, and after 2 days of xorg bull it works!
[05:51] <KM0201> Mankool: those dual GPU laptopps are a nightmare... when i bought my new laptop, i made absolute sure, it didn't have one
[05:52] <rumpe1> Shinde, if you don't know this, gnome3 sure is  a bad idea. You can take images of the drives/partitions with dd.
[05:52] <onyeex16> hi
[05:52] <Mankool> KM0201: actually its desktop box
[05:52] <urlin2u> Shinde, http://clonezilla.org/
[05:52] <Mankool> KM0201: i had a nvidia card laying around, and wanted 3 mons
[05:52] <KM0201> Mankool: lol, your'e better than me, i'd have just installed a graphics card, problem solved.. :)
[05:52] <dd_> Well could I deactivate one of the GPU's?
[05:52] <Shinde> Thank you urlin2u and rumpe1 :)
[05:52] <KM0201> dd_: maybe in the BIOS.
[05:52] <Mankool> KM0201: so i am now dualing, 1 ati, 1 nvidia... i know, i dunno why i like pain
[05:52] <fhenning09> Well no I'm saying i installed it and there is no sound folder in my .xchat2 folder I mean the preferences point there to a folder called sound but it doesn't exist so now I'm confused if it doesn't come from the official ppa ubuntu install where the heck do i get it lol
[05:52] <lion42> Shinde, instead of doing all of that, why not use a distro that presently supports gnome3?
[05:53] <KM0201> Mankool: i've got dual screens on my server..lol (used to be my desktop, but i turned it into my file server)
[05:53] <Mankool> KM0201 it just feels so worth it now, the great euphoria of 2 days of war against xorg.conf and blacklisting and drivers and etc etc
[05:53] <dd_> Hmm sounds like an iffy operation...should I disable the dedicated or the integrated?
[05:53] <KM0201> i just disconnected the displays today
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> Dd_: i asked you a question to help solve your issue and you didn't answer....
[05:53] <Shinde> lion42: I tried fedora 15. but, it comes with really ugly fonts. Which i tried to fix but no effective change. Ubuntu has really great fonts.
[05:53] <Mankool> yeah thats what happened to my other box i fooled around with till i go thtis new one
[05:54] <Mankool> anyway, i gotta go to bed, work tomorrow, not gonna get enough sleep
[05:54] <dd_> I did!
[05:54] <dd_> lol
[05:54] <KM0201> i think he said intel 3500, and some ATI...
[05:54] <Mankool> is this chat logged anywhere so I can see the pplz that I was talking to a couple hours ago?
[05:54] <dd_> I said should I deactivate the Integrated or the dedicated GPU?
[05:55] <rumpe1> !log
[05:55] <dd_> IK Im not a big fan of ati..but it was the best bang for the $$$
[05:55] <KM0201> dd_: it depends, what graphics card is integrated, which is "dedicated">?
[05:55] <Mankool> rumpel: thanks
[05:55] <lion42> Shinde, do you mean the font that was used throughout gnome 3?
[05:55] <lion42> That is not fedora specific, that is "the gnome developers had too much to drink" specific.
[05:55] <uns0b1ll> how do i view whats my video card ? dmesg ?
[05:55] <dd_> Dedicated 6970m and integrated I7 GMA
[05:56] <Shinde> lion42: In fedora actualy.
[05:56] <KM0201> uns0b1ll: lspci | grep VGA should show it.
[05:56] <gack> ubuntu is working for me now, but i've forgot my login name that i used to install it. Is there anyway for me to find it out?
[05:56] <uns0b1ll> 8400 GS
[05:56] <Shinde> lion42: And yes, gnome 3 comes. ;)
[05:56] <laxonmind> I think my xorg.0.log is telling me I am using the wrong driver how do i know and change it
[05:56] <dd_> my  laptop allows me to switch cars on the fly
[05:56] <dd_> cards*
[05:57] <Mankool> if anyone sees sandman2211 or hylian around, can u plz tell them i did it?
[05:57] <KM0201> gack: boot recovery mode, cd into /home  and type "ls"   and the name of yoru home folder, is your username
[05:57] <rumpe1> gack, do you get the login-screen?
[05:57] <uns0b1ll> okay 8400 GS, is it compatible with Compiz effects ?
[05:57] <gack> rumpe1: yes i get the login screen.
[05:57] <rumpe1> gack, there should be the userlist for choosing a user to login
[05:58] <KM0201> rumpe1: i think you actualy gotta get into the OS, to set that
[05:58] <rumpe1> gack, otherwise boot into recovery mode and check /etc/group
[05:59] <gack> rumpe1: it just has 'other'. I'm trying recovery mode and I'll see if I can get what KM0201 said to work. thanks.
[05:59] <dd_> KMO201 any ideas?
[05:59] <KM0201> gack: boot recovery, then go to the last option "root console" (or something like that)
[05:59] <KM0201> dd_: well, if it wree me, i'd choose the intel, if you can disable one or the other..
[06:00] <KM0201> but.. i'm very anti-ATI.. so..
[06:00] <Mankool> goodnight, ati & nvidia are now lovers in my box
[06:00] <dd_> I love NVIDIA...
[06:00] <Mankool> after 2 days of xorg
[06:00] <KM0201> two young lovers witht heir bodies on fire... lol
[06:00] <laxonmind> what is the best way to deal with video card issues I have been looking every where for 2 days and all i see is write an x.org config file
[06:00] <dd_> Its jst M17x only had a GTX 460 available and thats 40% less kick..
[06:00] <dd_> so it was that of the 6970..
[06:00] <rumpe1> gack, or use "adduser <newuser> admin" in root/recorvery-console to create a new (admin) user
[06:01] <p_res> laxonmind: personally dude, i don't why so many people have issues with vid card drivers in the first place.
[06:01] <K-Rich> nvidia sucks imho, namely because my graphics card is blacklisted :/
[06:01] <KM0201> rumpe1: thats really unecessary (but will work).. if he's gonna boot root recovery console, he can just ls /home  and see his hoome folder, which is his username
[06:01] <gack> KM0201: it won't load the recovery mode. it comes up with 'init: plymouth main process (50) killed by SEGV signal"  rumpe1
[06:01] <p_res> laxonmind: i use ubuntu on two systems and never have to touch anything to do with the video card drivers.
[06:02] <KM0201> gack: well that doesn't make sense
[06:02] <dd_> dont want to touch it with a 60 ft pole EH? lol
[06:02] <KM0201> gack: but you can boot to the sign on screen, if you choose the regular console?
[06:02] <lion42> p_res, there's 1000 things supported out of the box. For the unfortunate person who gets one of the dozens that aren't, its a whole nother story.
[06:03] <gack> KM0201: yes. I can get right up to the sign in screen
[06:03] <p_res> lion42: but there always seems to be so many of them. whether here on irc or forums etc.
[06:03] <KM0201> gack: do you hae a live cd?
[06:03] <laxonmind> p_res: under monitor there is nothing every thing is unknown or default resoltion
[06:03] <gack> KM0201: usb. should i boot using that?
[06:03] <p_res> laxonmind: what card you using?
[06:03] <KM0201> gack: usb is fine, boot hte live usb on that machine
[06:03] <p_res> laxonmind: curious.
[06:03] <lion42> p_res, yes, because people who have problems ask for help, whereas people with no problems do not talk about the problems they do not have.
[06:04] <p_res> lion42: lol, fair enough statement.
[06:04] <dd_> OK KMO I was about to be courteous and thank you for your attention...but now :/
[06:04] <gack> KM0201: loading...
[06:04] <KM0201> ok
[06:04] <KM0201> dd_: ?.. i don't really know what more to tell you.. i'll happily give you a refund
[06:04] <wildbat> hmmm is it possible to send magic Sysrq to a Vboxed ubuntu under ubuntu?
[06:05] <dd_> LOL no hard feelings just..hate my card now...
[06:05] <KM0201> dd_: wel,l thats not my fault.
[06:05] <dd_> I always knew ATI/AMD drivers suck...
[06:05] <anth0ny> looking for recommendations on a good program to code in when using Ubuntu.  I'm currently using gedit but would like something that could collapse large amounts of lines and also save projects (ie, open a file that automatically opens 5 documents), along with the standard coding features (coloring, replace all tool, line numbers).  Any ideas?
[06:05] <p_res> dd_:  they do??
[06:05] <p_res> :-0
[06:06]  * KM0201 doesn't like ATI
[06:06] <anth0ny> (for the record, not looking to learn emacs or vim, learning curve is a bit more than I want to handle right now)
[06:06] <p_res> anth0ny: emacs?
[06:06] <th0r> anth0ny: nedit?
[06:06] <glebihan> anth0ny, geany ?
[06:06] <KM0201> lol
[06:06] <dd_> Well my experiece with them has been a great value but minimal support...
[06:06] <pealstic> hi
[06:06] <anth0ny> so many options... going to look into geany and nedit
[06:06] <pealstic> its me
[06:06] <dd_> O well GN folks and ty
[06:06] <gack> KM0201: it's loaded. what now?
[06:07] <KM0201> anth0ny: nano
[06:07] <e_t_> anth0ny: kate
[06:07] <KM0201> gack: open nautilus.
[06:07]  * KM0201 <3's nano
[06:07] <p_res> sorry anth0ny. never realized your emacs note.
[06:07] <laxonmind> p_res: Intel onboard 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device
[06:07] <chewy> hi guys, is there a way to modify the background of web browser? i d like to remove this white background for a slightly more greyish black...
[06:07] <gack> KM0201: where is that?
[06:08] <KM0201> gack: just open your home folder (on the live cd)
[06:08] <p_res> laxonmind: i have run a 82865 before and no problems ootb.
[06:08] <Hoyt> hi , how can i mount an ISO , when user click on it
[06:08] <p_res> sorry.
[06:08] <KM0201> gack: can you not find it?
[06:08] <gack> KM0201: i've opened home. what next?
[06:08] <pealstic> i registered on bt-linux but nobody there alive
[06:08] <KM0201> gack: now,, on the left, you should see your drives, right?... (not filesystem, as thats the filesystem for the live usb)
[06:09] <laxonmind> p_res: the Xorg.log says it is trying and failling to run a vesa driver
[06:09] <gack> KM0201: yes, there's just the one drive.
[06:09] <KM0201> just one just 1
[06:09] <KM0201> ?
[06:09] <KM0201> gack: is ubuntu the only OS on that machine?
[06:10] <gack> KM0201: yeah, I replaced xp to install ubuntu because the computers so old.
[06:10] <p_res> laxonmind: sorry mate, can't help you. i don't mess around with drivers. all my h/ware runs perfect out of the box on all 3 systems i run. lucky? perhaps.
[06:10] <KM0201> gack ok... that explains that
[06:10] <KM0201> gack: click that drive... and let it mount... then when it mounts, look at the folders, find "home" and open it.
[06:10] <KM0201> inside there is a folder w/ a name... that name, is your username
[06:11] <KM0201> hopefully you didn't forget your password to, since you can't seem to boot recovery
[06:11] <gack> KM0201: hmm... there's nothing in there.
[06:11] <laxonmind> p_res: lucky I got this laptop because my mobo on my desktop just died
[06:11] <KM0201> gack: ?... there's nothing in home?
[06:11] <sajimon> hello, can thunderbird be integrated with messaging menu on natty?
[06:11] <anth0ny> p_res, so, why is it that everybody LOVES emacs?
[06:12] <KM0201> hmm
[06:12] <KM0201> gack: hang on
[06:12] <gack> KM0201: nope,
[06:12] <glebihan> gack, didn't you have a separate partition for home ?
[06:12] <jimijix> Hi, i'm browsing my ubuntu partition through windows. Where is my home directory? I can't find it
[06:12] <KM0201> glebihan: doesn't sound like it.. he said he only has 1 partition..
[06:13] <p_res> anth0ny: because it does absolutely everything that you could wish for, plus more. just bog standard for that kind of thing i guess. it's the norm.
[06:13] <lion42> jimijix, how are you browsing your ubuntu partition?
[06:13] <kl4m> jimijix, is your /home encrypted?
[06:13] <KM0201> gack: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reset-your-ubuntu-password-easily-from-the-live-cd/
[06:13] <laxonmind> if i have an Intel Onboard 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device should Ubuntu be loading a VESA driver?
[06:13] <glebihan> KM0201, just double-checking, as an empty home would suggest that it's on another partition
[06:13] <gack> KM0201: thanks, I'll give it a shot.
[06:13] <p_res> laxonmind: i think so.
[06:14] <p_res> laxonmind: i seem to remember my 82865 video used vesa.
[06:14] <KM0201> glebihan: well, he said in nautilus, he only saw one partition available.. so.. i'm assuming thats not the case...
[06:15] <glebihan> KM0201, except if the partition is not recognized for some reason (corrupted fs for example, which could also explain the plymouth error he had at boot)
[06:15] <jimijix> lion42 & kl4m: i'm using ext2fs
[06:15] <KM0201> gack: after you run the chroot command, lemme know.
[06:15] <KM0201> glebihan: or he encrypted it... :)
[06:15] <jimijix> kl4m: no, I haven
[06:15] <glebihan> KM0201, that's a possibility too
[06:15] <jimijix> kl4m: It's not encrypted
[06:15] <KM0201> glebihan: well, we're just gonna create a new user now.. ..lol
[06:16] <glebihan> KM0201, ok
[06:16] <KM0201> frankly, i don't understand how someone could install, and forget a username.. but... thats another issue..lol
[06:16] <laxonmind> p_res: thanks wish i could post in the forums there system will not send me a confirmation email to any of my emails addies so I can post
[06:16] <p_res> laxonmind: what forums?
[06:16] <p_res> ubuntuforums.org?
[06:16] <gry> yea
[06:16] <laxonmind> Yea
[06:17] <laxonmind> wt*
[06:17] <Henriquez> hello. When i try to log in with VNC on my ubuntu desktop, which has a bridge network setup as described in kvm ubuntu networking, community documentation, i cannot connect . But that only happens when a virtual machine is running in KVM . I cannot seem to locate the error in the logs
[06:17] <Henriquez> can anyone help
[06:17] <Henriquez> ?
[06:17] <robin0800> laxonmind, make sure its not caught as spam by your e-mail client
[06:18] <laxonmind> robin0800: I check the spam in three different email accounts :(
[06:19] <robin0800> laxonmind, are any of them web based?
[06:19] <laxonmind> robin0800: all of them hotmail, gmail and yahoo
[06:20] <stealz> laxomind, If you're using a client to download emails make sure you sync your junk/spam folder too. I think I had to set that up manually in thunderbird
[06:20] <gack> KM0201: it came up with 'root@ubuntu' after the chroot command.
[06:20] <KM0201> good.
[06:20] <KM0201> hang on
[06:21] <robin0800> laxonmind, perhaps try a none web based one if you can
[06:21] <laxonmind> stealz: all web based no client
[06:21] <KM0201> gack:    adduser new_user_name           (obviously, replase new_user_name.. with a new username)... then reset a new password
[06:22] <KM0201> gack: when it starts asking you about phone number, email addy, etc.. you can ignore that junk
[06:24] <Fullmoon> I am quite concerned about this: 1,3M drwxrwsrwx   258 4294967294 4294967294  258 2011-08-23 04:44 documents/
[06:24] <gack> KM0201: sweet. its come back to root@ubuntu. what now?
[06:24] <Fullmoon> kid and did of 32bit uint_max - 1: File system problems?
[06:24] <Fullmoon> *uid and gid
[06:24] <KM0201> gack: well, the only question, is whether that user is gonna have sudo access (not sure)... we'll figure that out in a minute, so reboot, sign in with your new username nad password
[06:25] <rumpe1> gack, for sudo access user: "adduser <username> admin"
[06:25] <glebihan> KM0201, gack by default it won't have sudo access
[06:25] <KM0201> ah, ok..
[06:25] <glebihan> KM0201, you have to out it the admin group
[06:25] <KM0201> i thought so, wasn't sure.
[06:25] <glebihan> to put it
[06:25] <KM0201> yeah, to put it in the admin group... put    adduser (yournewusername) admin
[06:25] <KM0201> that'll give it sudo access
[06:26] <urlin2u> KM0201, you guys check on grub while you in the chroot?
[06:26] <KM0201> i'm curious why he coudlnt boot recovery mode.. thats a little weird
[06:26] <KM0201> urlin2u: his grub is fine, he forgot his username/password
[06:26] <glebihan> KM0201, gack actually it's "usermod username -aG admin"
[06:26] <urlin2u> KM0201, sounded like it.
[06:26] <rumpe1> KM0201, recovery mode with graphical boot splash... sounds really weird
[06:27] <gack> i logged in now and it worked. i'm going to restart again and see if that works.
[06:27] <farciarz84> skype: error while loading shared libraries: libXss.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:27] <farciarz84> how to fix it?
[06:27] <stealz> is there any way to make the background of the gnome panel clock less or not transparent? I set background="" in the custom format, which works, but doesnt look pretty as it just targets the background around the font, not the whole background behind the panel clock
[06:28] <jstoone> Hey everyone! My IT teacher was talking about the most "unique" on a computer. And I said the MAC address since it's signed into the network interface's read-only memory. And he said that I made him confused, and we need to research.
[06:28] <KM0201> gack: hopefully it put you in sudoers, if it didn't, we'll figure something out.
[06:28] <Shirakawasuna> hi folks! Running kubuntu here (hope it's supported). In the 'additional drivers' dialog, it's claimed that the nvidia proprietary driver is installed but is not in use. It looks awfully in use tome - opengl is working great and lsmod | grep nvidia shows that it's there and in use. Is this something I can safely ignore?
[06:28] <stealz> or alternatively, give the panel clock font a dropshadow or outline
[06:28] <jstoone> jstoone: Do you know what the most unique thing about a computer is?
[06:28] <glebihan> !find libXss.so.1 | farciarz84
[06:28] <rumpe1> farciarz84, well... first check, if you have the missing lib already installed
[06:29] <farciarz84> rumpe1: it is
[06:29] <rumpe1> farciarz84, sometimes the filename of the lib or the link to it are named differently. Then you could just create a link to it with the needed name and try it.
[06:29] <gack> KM0201: yeah it loaded again. is there anything else i need to check or is it good to go?
[06:30] <KM0201> gack: well.. first, open Synaptic Package manager.
[06:30] <KM0201> and enter your password, and see if it grants you access to synaptic.
[06:30] <KM0201> .. i don't think you've got sudo access right now.
[06:31] <gack> KM0201: yep, what next?
[06:31] <KM0201> gack: oh it let you into synaptic?
[06:31] <gack> KM0201: it just comes to the logon screen. my password didn't work though.
[06:31] <KM0201> gack: thus the prob.
[06:32] <gack> KM0201: i see. should I boot from live usb again?
[06:32] <tking0035> gack: type sudo synaptic in the terminal
[06:32] <KM0201> gack: yes
[06:32] <KM0201> tking0035: he doesn't have sudo access
[06:32] <urlin2u> gksudo
[06:32] <KM0201> follow along
[06:32] <tking0035> KM0201: sorrry just joined
[06:32] <KM0201> gack: reboot the live usb like i said
[06:33] <spo0kz> Anyone know the default value for /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[06:33] <KM0201> gack: when you are back on the live USB, chroot your install, like you did last time, let me know when youre at root@ubuntu
[06:34] <Shirakawasuna> spo0kz: mine says 0
[06:34] <spo0kz> Shirakawasuna, spank you
[06:35] <Henriquez> hello. When i try to log in with VNC on my ubuntu desktop, which has a bridge network setup as described in kvm ubuntu networking, community documentation, i cannot connect . But that only happens when a virtual machine is running in KVM . I cannot seem to locate the error in the logs
[06:35] <Henriquez> can anyone help?
[06:36] <wildbat> Henriquez: why not use Vbox then ?
[06:37] <Henriquez> because vbox has to have a windows for it function
[06:37] <Henriquez> it has to be open i mean
[06:37] <Shirakawasuna> Henriquez: ?
[06:37] <Henriquez> you can leave kvm running in the background vbox not
[06:37] <Henriquez> as far as i know
[06:38] <Shirakawasuna> ah
[06:39] <KM0201> gack: ?
[06:39] <Cheese_Eater> Hey I'm a Windows user and I want to install Ubuntu, but I've heard it isn't that good for gaming. However, I've also heard about Wine being really good for Counter-Strike Source. Is this true and will I be able to play on a good frame rate?
[06:39] <gack> KM0201: sorry, had to deal with something else for a sec. I've loaded and I'm about to put all those commands in again. just a sec.
[06:40] <KM0201> ok.. just chroot again, then we gotta do some stuff to add you to admin.
[06:41] <Henriquez> @ Cheese_Eater : It depends on the game. I suggest to look at the appdb on the wine website for the gmes you like
[06:41] <Henriquez> just google appdb wine and youll find it
[06:41] <Cheese_Eater> @Henriquez Alright, thanks dude. :)
[06:42] <Henriquez> yw
[06:42] <gack> KM0201: what do I do instead of the 'adduser' command. it says the user already exists
[06:42] <gack> KM0201: when i put the same username in that is
[06:42] <glebihan> gack  "usermod username -aG admin"
[06:42] <KM0201> gack, right... you need to put... adduser (username) admin
[06:43] <KM0201> glebihan: whats the -aG switch do?
[06:43] <KM0201> i've always just adduser username admin...
[06:43] <gack> KM0201: done. I put your one in not glebihan 's one. is that ok?
[06:43] <KM0201> gack: should be fine.. just to clarify.. do this.... groups username
[06:43] <Flannel> -aG won't work, it'd need to be -G group -a, but adduser is much easier/safer.
[06:43] <KM0201> and it'll list the groups that username is in...
[06:43] <KM0201> make sure admin is there
[06:44] <gack> nothing came up KM0201:
[06:44] <cheese_eater> Alright sorry to annoy but it says it's a platinum game, is that good?
[06:44] <KM0201> Flannel: well iv'e never been called safe, so...lol
[06:44] <Flannel> KM0201: In this case, you are :)
[06:44] <KM0201> gack: are you still at root@ubuntu
[06:44] <KM0201> i'm still confused why he can't boot recovery mode.. lol
[06:44] <cheese_eater> @Henriquez does a platinum game on appdb mean it's gonna work well or badly?
[06:44] <gack> KM0201: yeah I was, until I put groups username in. now it's blank.
[06:45] <KM0201> gack: honey, put your username in place of username
[06:45] <glebihan> Flannel, -aG works
[06:45] <KM0201> lol, thats how i tell my better half to do computer stuff..lol, cuz she says i make her feel stupid.
[06:45] <KM0201> glebihan: i'm not saying it doesn't... i've just never used it... what does that -aG switch do?
[06:45] <glebihan> KM0201, -aG adds the user to the specified group
[06:46] <KM0201> glebihan: well, adduser username groupname   also does
[06:46] <KM0201> so..?
[06:46] <Thelmaria> KM0201: man usermod. -a appends, -G adds to a group.
[06:46] <gack> KM0201: it says admin
[06:46] <KM0201> Thelmaria: meh, i'm not that worried about it
[06:46] <KM0201> gack: ok, reboot
[06:46] <glebihan> KM0201, no adduser creates a new user
[06:46] <KM0201> glebihan: i know that.
[06:47] <KM0201> adduser username group   adds a user to a group
[06:47] <KM0201> * a current user
[06:47] <glebihan> KM0201, ok sorry did not know that
[06:47] <glebihan> KM0201, I guess both commands are the same then
[06:48] <KM0201> glebihan: i think what we're both doing, works.. i've just never used the -aG switch
[06:48] <Zopiac> How can I tell the device name of my USB Webcam's mic? As in, the /dev/ path to it.
[06:48] <KM0201> gack: now, when you log back in, try to do something requiring admin (open synaptic, or a sudo command in terminal)
[06:50] <zertyui> hello there
[06:50] <gack> KM0201: i tried logging into synaptic package manager again and it didn't let me in.
[06:50] <zertyui> i can't find this package on the repositories : sun-java6-jre
[06:50] <KM0201> wtf.
[06:50] <zertyui> where to find it ?
[06:51] <Zopiac> I was able to find the webcam's video /dev/ path, but the audio path eludes me...
[06:51] <KM0201> gack: open a terminal
[06:51] <gack> KM0201: done,
[06:51] <Thelmaria> zertyui: You could try openjdk-6-jre.
[06:51] <rumpe1> Zopiac, maybe you get infos in dmesg after pluggin it in
[06:51] <urlin2u> zertyui, look in synaptic
[06:51] <KM0201> type:   groups "your username"
[06:52] <gack> it has "my username admin"
[06:52] <zertyui> no i absolutely need sun-java6-jre
[06:52] <KM0201> whats lpadmin ?
[06:52] <zertyui> openjdk is not a solution
[06:53] <KM0201> gack: what all groups does it say you're in?
[06:53] <KM0201> just paste it here...
[06:53] <mrintegrity> zertyui: you have to add the partners repo i think
[06:53] <gack> KM0201: it just has admin.
[06:53] <Zopiac> rumpe1: This is the only line that doesn't explicitly have to do with video: "input: UVC Camera (046d:0994) as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:12.2/usb1/1-6/1-6:1.0/input/input7"
[06:53] <KM0201> just admin?
[06:53] <KM0201> hmm
[06:53] <rumpe1> KM0201, configure cups printers and classes
[06:53] <urlin2u> zertyui, it is in synaptic you may need the universe repo ticked on.
[06:53] <KM0201> oh ok.
[06:53] <mrintegrity> urlin2u: partners repo *
[06:54] <urlin2u> mrintegrity, is hat the same as universe?
[06:54] <urlin2u> that
[06:54] <mrintegrity> urlin2u: nope
[06:54] <urlin2u> mrintegrity, cool thanls
[06:54] <KM0201> gack: one last time... boot back to the live usb.. ithink you need to be in group  "adm"
[06:54] <urlin2u> thans
[06:54] <mrintegrity> urlin2u: afaik universe is more community based packages.. partner is mostly proprietary
[06:54] <zertyui> let me check urlin2u
[06:54] <urlin2u> mrintegrity, cool I just turn them all on.
[06:55] <KM0201> gack...   ken adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape audio dip video plugdev fuse lpadmin netdev admin sambashare vboxusers
[06:55] <KM0201> wait, no.. its not -aG
[06:55] <KM0201> sorry, admn
[06:55] <mrintegrity> urlin2u: me too normally... i usually try to avoid proprietary software though
[06:56] <urlin2u> mrintegrity, for me if it works I use it, but I have pretty basic setup.
[06:56] <gack> KM0201: so put that in a terminal once I boot off the live cd and get to the root@ubuntu menu?
[06:56] <KM0201> gack: no... just chroot back .. i'm googling right now (i was brainstorming through my fingers, admin isn't it)
[06:58] <zertyui> how to ticked the universe repo ?
[06:58] <rumpe1> Zopiac, well.. i guess audio also uses usb. You can get additional infos about the usb-ports/hubs via "lsusb -v". Maybe you find something useful in there.
[06:59] <Zopiac> rumpe1: That isn't even telling me what sort of device it is, much less it's /dev/ path...
[06:59] <KM0201> gack: well, according to this... if you're in admin, and adm.. you should have root access..  http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/ubuntu-admin-group-permissions.html
[06:59] <KM0201> but i don't think adm should be that critical.
[06:59] <Thelmaria> KM0201: You could check what group you need to be in - cat /etc/sudoers.
[07:00] <sparky__> 0
[07:00] <urlin2u> zertyui, you how to get to the repos in synaptic?
[07:00] <KM0201> Thelmaria: hmm, you're on to something there i bet
[07:02] <gack> KM0201: so should i enter the commands in from that link?
[07:03] <urlin2u> zertyui, it is canonical partners actually  http://imagebin.org/169263
[07:03] <KM0201> no, not yet, hang on
[07:03] <KM0201> gack: are you chrooted in?
[07:04] <KM0201> gack?
[07:05] <zertyui> canonical partner allready ticked urlin2u
[07:06] <gack> KM0201: yep. back in.
[07:06] <urlin2u> zertyui, hmm have you looked in synaptic with this exactly, sun-java6-jre
[07:06] <KM0201> back in to what?
[07:07] <gack> KM0201: it says root@ubuntu at the moment.
[07:07] <KM0201> gack: oh ok..
[07:07] <urlin2u> zertyui, on the first tab is the universe and multiverse as well.
[07:08] <KM0201> gack: adduser username adm
[07:09] <gack> KM0201: done
[07:09] <KM0201> gack: now, type this... cat /etc/groups
[07:10] <gack> KM0201: it said no such file or directory
[07:10] <KM0201> gack: cat /etc/groups  ?   no such file or directory?
[07:11] <gack> KM0201: yep. ....?
[07:11] <KM0201> hang on
[07:11] <KM0201> gack: try cat /etc/sudoers
[07:12] <gack> KM0201: that's better. came up with a list of stuff.
[07:12] <KM0201> gack: ok
[07:12] <urlin2u> zertyui, apparently in medibuntu. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[07:12] <KM0201> under "user privilege section"
[07:12] <KM0201> does it say.... root   ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[07:13] <gack> KM0201: yes.
[07:13] <KM0201> members of the admin group may gain root priv....
[07:13] <KM0201> %sudo   ALL=(ALL) ALL
[07:13] <zertyui> simply i can't find the package urlin2u i have done what you asked
[07:13] <zertyui> i still not find the package
[07:13] <gack> KM0201: yep. and same for %admin
[07:13] <mrintegrity> zertyui: which ubuntu version are you using?
[07:14] <qdb> hello. http://releases.ubuntu.com/ does not work
[07:14] <KM0201> gack: you mean group sudo?
[07:14] <zertyui> well my question now is how to add new url then install the package ?
[07:14] <zertyui> ubuntu lucid mrintegrity
[07:14] <urlin2u> zertyui, this link may be a more understandable as to adding the medibuntu repos, then update && upgrade the java should bee in synaptic then.  http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/04/add-medibuntu-repository-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal/
[07:15] <KM0201> oh wait, i see what you're saying.
[07:15] <urlin2u> zertyui, your running licd hold on
[07:15] <urlin2u> lucid
[07:15] <zertyui> ok
[07:15] <gack> KM0201: it says %sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL and has %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL too
[07:16] <KM0201> ok..
[07:16] <KM0201> well, yours is the same as mine...
[07:16] <KM0201> so.. try rebooting back to the install
[07:16] <urlin2u> zertyui, run the two command sets here then update & upgrade. http://medibuntu.org/repository.php
[07:18] <zertyui> what is mediubuntu ?
[07:18] <zertyui> i m using ubuntu lucid not medibuntu
[07:18] <KM0201> zertyui: something that isnt' required anymore.. :)
[07:18] <KM0201> zertyui: you don't need medibuntu.
[07:18] <KM0201> what are you trying to do?
[07:19] <urlin2u> zertyui, medibuntu is a repository where the java you want comes from.
[07:19] <urlin2u> KM0201, I spent a bit of time finding that it is in medibuntu.
[07:19] <gack> KM0201: ok. i tried to login to the synaptic package manager again and it didn't work
[07:20] <zertyui> i simply need to install sun-java6-jre on ubuntu lucid
[07:20] <zertyui> seems it is very complicate
[07:20] <KM0201> urlin2u: hmm, never used medibuntto get java.
[07:20] <Thelmaria> gack: can you run sudo -s?
[07:21] <KM0201> that just doesn't make any sense to me.
[07:21] <gack> Thelmaria: it comes up with root@ubuntu
[07:22] <KM0201> well, so sudo is working.
[07:22] <KM0201> why the heck won't it let him in synaptic?
[07:22] <qdb> hmm ubuntu alternate cd 11 04 disappeared?
[07:22] <urlin2u> KM0201, apparently no I fins this I think the user is confused it should be where we pointed first the partner repo. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-install-sun-java-runtime-environment-jre-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html
[07:22] <Thelmaria> gack: How are you trying to get into synaptic?
[07:22] <urlin2u> find
[07:22] <Thelmaria> gack: Or, what's the error it gives you?
[07:22] <qdb> for example http://mirror.eftel.com/ubuntu-dvd/11.04/release/
[07:22] <qdb> ahh..
[07:22] <Hemebond> Can someone advise me on what I need to do if I want to use the Humanity icons in my project?
[07:23] <qdb> it is dvd folder
[07:23] <linuxuz3r> sup
[07:23] <gack> Thelmaria: I'm going to system, administration, synaptics package manager. it says I can't logon when I put my password in.
[07:23] <urlin2u> zertyui, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-install-sun-java-runtime-environment-jre-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html
[07:23] <linuxuz3r> going to play bfbc2
[07:23] <Thelmaria> gack: Hrm. Not sure why that wouldn't work - if you want synaptic really badly, you could go to a terminal window, type 'sudo synaptic' to open it. That shouldn't fail.
[07:24] <KM0201> Thelmaria: thus my question
[07:24] <KM0201> gack: try this.
[07:24] <gack> yeah, that worked. does that mean it's all good now?
[07:25] <zertyui> by entering this command sudo add-apt-repository “deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner” this is the error what i got : Error: need a repository as argument
[07:25] <zertyui> urlin2u:
[07:25] <KM0201> gack: not really, unless you wanna open up synaptic via terminal.. all the time
[07:25] <urlin2u> zertyui, yes, sorry for the problems.
[07:26] <urlin2u> zertyui, you need to add that to the apt sources.list
[07:26] <gack> KM0201: that's fine with me, unless I need to use it regularly. I'm just using it for word processing and internet mostly. thanks heaps for all your help!!
[07:27] <KM0201> gack: well, not really, synaptic is really just for installing/removing software...
[07:27] <gack> KM0201: sweet.. thanks again for your help!
[07:27] <urlin2u> zertyui, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:27] <KM0201> that was the strangest thing i ever saw.
[07:27] <dbugger> j #html5
[07:28] <fez> hai
[07:28] <Thelmaria> KM0201: Yes, certainly odd.
[07:29] <urlin2u> reinstall 20 min
[07:29] <KM0201> all right, well i'm out.
[07:29] <KM0201> bed time
[07:29] <KM0201> take care all.
[07:29] <onyeex5> onyeex9
[07:30] <zertyui> thanks a lot urlin2u working fine now
[07:31] <urlin2u> zertyui, cool I think the command was without the quotes to work.
[07:32] <zertyui> ok thanks
[07:37] <alks> hello, I have dual boot win7 and ubuntu. If i start PC in WIN7 and then shut down PC and launch again to win 7 everything is fine. IF i restart o launch at first to ubuntu and then SHUTDOWN from ubuntu i get bios startup crash and restart (message that boot was interrupted/error no more details press f1 to continue ) and i am able to boot to win7or ubuntu again from grub. If I REBOOT from ubuntu i can boot to ubuntu with no problem but if i try WIN7 it crashes
[07:37] <alks> on login screen (and after restart i can boot anywhere again). I updated my bios (did not help) and have no idea what to do next as i can not find any more info
[07:37] <swati_> mau
[07:38] <Guest36867> swati
[07:39] <abhinavmehta> guys is there some good ebook-metadata-updater tool for ubuntu..?
[07:39] <abhinavmehta> i couldn't found any good one..
[07:39] <alks> seems like i could drop WIN7 out of question as last days i am using only ubuntu and after each shutdown i get bios update
[07:39] <abhinavmehta> suggestions..
[07:39] <alks> asdf bios crash
[07:39] <onyeex> swati
[07:40] <abhinavmehta> Ebook-Metadata-Updater guys..?
[07:40] <urlin2u> alks, this is a dual boot not a wubi?
[07:40] <alks> yes dual
[07:40] <alks> i tried using only windows and then everything is ok so it should not be hardware problem
[07:40] <cheeseinacup> hey guys im using the ubuntu usb installer, and im gonna be installing to my second hard drive, does this mean if anything goes wrong my windows hard drive will still be safe?
[07:41] <onyeex> swati
[07:41] <urlin2u> alks, were you on before with this problem?
[07:41] <abhinavmehta> onyeex: why you are shouting swati..swati..? what is it..?
[07:41] <carl_> does any body know why after installing gnome3, from the gnome3-builds ppa, i dont have an option to open the sidebar by clicking my username in the right corner?
[07:41] <cheeseinacup> anyone???
[07:41] <cheeseinacup> i'm new to linux :/
[07:42] <alks> urlin2u,  sory do not understand the question?
[07:42] <abhinavmehta> Ebook-Metadata-Updater guys..?
[07:42] <urlin2u> alks, somebody was on in the last couple of days with the same problem, just asking if it was you.
[07:42] <alks> urlin2u, yes probably me
[07:43] <alks> urlin2u,  i posted it on ubuntuforums too
[07:43] <alks> but got little help so searching on for directions
[07:43] <urlin2u> alks, were you able to disconnect all the batteries?
[07:43] <alks> CMOS?
[07:44] <cheeseinacup> can anyone help me??? i really want to install linux but I have lots of stuff on my windows drive and it would be a pain to have to install everything again
[07:44] <overclucker> alks: what do you mean by bios crash? does bios not post?
[07:44] <urlin2u> alks, and the main batery, laptop right?
[07:44] <alks> no PC
[07:45] <urlin2u> alks, what is the computer model?
[07:45] <alks> overclucker,  BIOS starts i hear BEEP then everything stops i see nothing all time black screen then one more BEEP and normal startup with message: Warning system boot fail etc
[07:46] <Thelmaria> cheeseinacup: If you have two harddrives, and you know which one the windows install is on, and you do not install ubuntu on that drive, things should be fine. Ubuntu can be installed on a single drive.
[07:46] <cheeseinacup> Thelmaria: i know but will my windows drive be completely 100 percent safe? and I know that it's my C: drive
[07:46] <kinglet> Hello to everyone, I have a problem. I want to install Ubuntu 11.04 (DVD) but when I select Graphical mode installing or Live, after some texts got this error msg "undevd-work [102]: '/sbin/modprobe -bv pci: v000...' unexpected exit with status 0x0009" and in Text mode installing installation CD-Rom couldn't be mounted. What is the problem u think?
[07:46] <overclucker> alks: that actually sounds kinda serious. have you made any changes to the system hardare reciently?
[07:46] <sbarcteam> hi. I want to backup 2 partitions (ext2 and ext4) on second local hard disk. I want to only backup the used space. dd backed up everything, incl. free space.
[07:46] <alks> urlin2u, asus motherboard P5N32SLI i think hmm where in ubuntu i can get all that info displayed
[07:47] <sbarcteam> it should be command line tool.
[07:47] <alks> overclucker, no changes
[07:47] <urlin2u> alks, have you run a memory test?
[07:47] <sbarcteam> is there a tool in e2fstools ?
[07:47] <alks> urlin2u, i run memtest no results
[07:47] <Shirakawasuna> cheeseinacup: just make sure ubuntu is installing to the correct, non-windows disk
[07:48] <cheeseinacup> yeah my windows one has 200gb of stuff on it, any my one i'm gonna be installing ubuntu to has nothing onit
[07:48] <Shirakawasuna> cheeseinacup: k. I would recommend backing up beforehand just in case.
[07:48] <e_t_> cheeseinacup: If you're ultra-worried, unplug your Windows hard drive while you install Linux to the other.
[07:49] <cheeseinacup> doesn't ubuntu detect if it's the windows drive or not?
[07:49] <alks> urlin2u, P5N32-E SLI
[07:49] <cheeseinacup> it will say like install alongside windows on the same hdd or the other one or something like that, I haven't used linux before
[07:49] <Shirakawasuna> cheeseinacup: I'm not sure how it decides where to install, so you'll have to pay attention.
[07:49] <cheeseinacup> alright thanks
[07:50] <urlin2u> alks, I have no idea really when I look I see this across platforms.
[07:53] <alks> urlin2u, any ideas what should i do , is that dangerous ? i have everything backed up. I can live with that
[07:53] <_ramo> Hi
[07:54] <urlin2u> alks, not sure what you mean, and probably don't k now anyway,to be honest.
[07:54] <alks> urlin2u, k ty
[07:54] <kinglet> please someone help me
[07:55] <abhinavmehta> Ebook-Metadata-Updater guys..?
[07:55] <_ramo> i was not able to set up a vhost on my virtual machine... i added a file to /etc/apache2/sites-available and configured it like in the tutorial. after that i did a sudo a2ensite myfile  and reloaded apache. as a servername i choosed "mysite" . i also edited the /etc/hosts file with 127.0.0.1 mysite . now if i enter http://mysite into my browser, i come to the default apache index.html file and not to the document root i've defined
[07:55] <_ramo> any ideas, what's going wrong?
[07:55] <urlin2u> kinglet, did you check the sum of the ISO, and burn it as an image?
[07:56] <overclucker> alks: if it's failing to post, i's not likely a windows or linux problem, as control has not yet been passed to a boot loader
[07:57] <kinglet> urlin2u Yes! this is the original DVD
[07:57] <alks> overclucker, but if i shutdown from windows i do not get the error
[07:57] <urlin2u> kinglet, you checked the md5sum?
[07:57] <kinglet> urlin2u Yes
[07:57] <alks> overclucker,  100% i tried i get error after ubuntu shutdown and no error after win shutdown
[07:58] <urlin2u> kinglet, not sure really do you need the dvd, rather then the cd.
[07:58] <overclucker> alks: sounds like you have a very peculiar problem.
[07:59] <kinglet> urlin2u I tried to download CD iso(s) but everytime I md5sum it that was incorrect :(
[08:00] <iceroot_> kinglet: you are readinig the md5sum from the iso or the burnded cd?
[08:00] <urlin2u> kinglet, strange I have had few fail.
[08:00] <rumpe1> alks, maybe try if ubuntu with acpi/apic off reproduces the same problem, but this is just wild guessing
[08:01] <IdleOne> alks: is this on a new mother board? I just recently built a pc and I had to clear the CMOS by changing it to the 1-2 poisition
[08:01] <IdleOne> position*
[08:01] <kinglet> iceroot_ from iso files
[08:02] <iceroot_> kinglet: the md5 file is downloaded from the official ubuntu-site? the isos also?
[08:02] <odie_> the headphone jack on the front of my computer doesn't work
[08:02] <iceroot_> kinglet: we are talking about ubuntu 11.04?
[08:02] <alks> IdleOne,  ol PC worked good for long time just tried out ubuntu (and liked it alot ;]]) after windows system problems (virus or smth needed to format)
[08:03] <odie_> How can I get the headphone jack on the front of my computer to work?
[08:04] <kinglet> iceroot_ yes Ubuntu 11.04, and now I tried with Ubuntu 11.04 DVD and this is the Md5sum in DVD http://pastebin.com/SXsZJpar
[08:06] <kinglet> urlin2u this is md5sum in dvd http://pastebin.com/SXsZJpar
[08:07] <abhinavmehta> Ebook-Metadata-Updater guys..?
[08:07] <iceroot_> kinglet: use the md5sum for the iso not for the files inside
[08:07] <carldeantucker> anybody using gnome3 with ubuntu 10.10?
[08:08] <wildbat> !gnome3 | carldeantucker
[08:08] <iceroot_> kinglet: http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso  with this md5 8b1085bed498b82ef1485ef19074c281 *ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso
[08:08] <iceroot_> kinglet: also see http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/MD5SUMS
[08:08] <kinglet> iceroot_ I download the CD iso(s) and I had problem, so I try with DVD and this is original DVD of Ubuntu 11.04
[08:09] <urlin2u> ringberar, can you see me in the PM
[08:10] <carldeantucker> I understand that, i just wanted to play around with gnome3 on my desktop
[08:10] <iceroot_> kinglet: what problems exactly with the isos?
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> carldeantucker: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/install-vanilla-gnome-3-in-maverick/
[08:10] <carldeantucker> has anybody got it working in 10.10
[08:10] <carldeantucker> ?
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> carldeantucker: I wouldn't advise it
[08:11] <wildbat> carldeantucker: play in vm i suggest ~ it is KNOWN to break things.
[08:11] <IdleOne> abhinavmehta: http://jkwiens.com/2010/01/04/changing-pdf-metadata-on-ubuntu/  is this what you need?
[08:11] <odie_> How can I get the headphone jack on the front of my computer to work?
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> odie_: what make / model is the system?
[08:12] <odie_> I think the audio stuff is realtek
[08:12] <carldeantucker> cool thanks ActionParsnip and wildbat
[08:12] <BlueWolf> Hi, Could someone help me, I want to Install a game in wine for a friend, the game is Red Alert 3 Uprising.. . . . How would I go about it?
[08:12] <carldeantucker> I installed it using that ppa the other day, and it seems ok, just i cannot open the sidebar
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | BlueWolf
[08:13] <carldeantucker> doesnt seem to be an option when i click the username
[08:13] <abhinavmehta> IdleOne: thanks mate, but I want a auto-updater...and its a manual updater
[08:13] <kinglet> iceroot_ I tried to download iso files 3times but everytime I want to install ubuntu, installer crashed and I have to reboot! I md5sum 3 iso(s) and noone was like http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/MD5SUMS
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> carldeantucker: i'd ask in #gnome  the gnome 3 instaled via ppa isn't supported here
[08:13] <kinglet> iceroot_ so I try with DVD and ...
[08:13] <IdleOne> abhinavmehta: where would this auto-updater get the new metadata from?
[08:13] <abhinavmehta> BTW I found "Calibre" but it generates a seprate .opf...which is wired...I want to update the existing pdf-file with those metadata....
[08:14] <odie_> Is there no way to get a headphone jack to work?
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> odie_: are you going to answer my question, or not?
[08:14] <abhinavmehta> IdleOne: this takes from Google.com, Amazon.com....you can find all this at Calibre
[08:14] <odie_> ActionParsnip: I did. The audio stuff is Realtek.
[08:14] <roflin> owk guys, im in kind of a pickle here. I had a missing icon and used a unity --reset to fix it. It did fix it but the process wouldn't end so i killed it. Now i lost all my settings (which is frustrating but my fault not complaining here) and whatever settings i apply in compiz, does not effect my desktop enviroment. setting number of workspaces for instances has no effect. Got any tips for me?
[08:15] <kinglet> iceroot_ this is my first question:
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> odie_: I didn't ask the chip, I wanted the mak and model of the system
[08:15] <kinglet> iceroot_ Hello to everyone, I have a problem. I want to install Ubuntu 11.04 (DVD) but when I select Graphical mode installing or Live, after some texts got this error msg "undevd-work [102]: '/sbin/modprobe -bv pci: v000...' unexpected exit with status 0x0009" and in Text mode installing installation CD-Rom couldn't be mounted. What is the problem u think?
[08:15] <odie_> ActionParsnip, I made it myself.
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> kinglet: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> odie_: that's the answer I wanted
[08:15] <odie_> ActionParsnip, the motherboard is an eVGA p55 LE
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> odie_: gimme a sec
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> odie_: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[08:16] <abhinavmehta> IdleOne: I tried Calibre irc-channel to...but its almost dead...and non-functional...so I thought to find someone else on here.
[08:16] <kinglet> ActionParsnip this is the original DVD and I doesnt download it!
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> kinglet: ok, did you check the CD for defects when it starts to boot?
[08:16] <gpetrakis> How can I enable IPV6 for testing?
[08:16] <iceroot_> kinglet: hm seems like the installer cant detect your hardware correctly but i am not sure
[08:17] <odie_> ActionParsnip, http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=4d35b6f751a34b69f13dd8800394bbbe23165323
[08:17] <alpha> can someone help me with my very short bash script? The problem is that vimprobable2 does not run until I close the window that was opened with "tabbed". http://pastebin.com/azu7VwaT
[08:17] <kinglet> ActionParsnip no! what should I do?
[08:17] <kinglet> iceroot_ what should I do?
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> kinglet: when the CD starts to boot, press SPACE and select "Check disk for defects"
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> kinglet: also from the same screen also run the memtest
[08:18] <kinglet> ActionParsnip ok, I try it and I'll say u everything happends
[08:19] <kinglet> iceroot_ I'm going to try ActionParsnip suggestion
[08:19] <kinglet> iceroot_ ActionParsnip brb guys, tnx
[08:19] <iceroot_> kinglet: ok
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> odie_: is the front audio unmuted and cranked in alsamixer?
[08:20] <IdleOne> abhinavmehta: from what I read it seems that calibre does exactly what you want.
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> odie_: use M to unmute and cursors to move / change levels. Use ESC to exit
[08:20] <odie_> yes, it was unmuted and cranked high
[08:20] <koza> hm?
[08:21] <koza> speak polisch?
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> odie_: ok try adding: options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1    to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf    reboot to test
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> !pl | koza
[08:21] <Trond--> How do I get the microphone to work with Ubuntu 11.04? It is connect to the mic port in my motherboard.
[08:22] <abhinavmehta> IdleOne: Yes it does..but as said earlier...it generates unnecessary files along with the .pdf file eg *.opf and *.jpg...so I'm looking to merge this info automatically now.
[08:22] <Thelmaria> Can I add a user by editing /etc/group ? I don't have access to the machines console, only it's filesystem.
[08:22] <rumpe1> Thelmaria, can you chroot to it?
[08:23] <abhinavmehta> IdleOne: BTW thanks for reading and suggesting me... :)
[08:23] <Thelmaria> rumpe1: Possibly, I'll give that a shot.
[08:23] <odie_> ActionParsnip, alright, brb
[08:24] <rumpe1> Thelmaria, would be the most simple solution
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> +1 for chroot
[08:24] <IdleOne> abhinavmehta: sure thing, next suggestion is to keep trying the calibre channel and be patient
[08:26] <Thelmaria> rumpe1: Nope, can't chroot. The machines are thin-clients booting off an NFS share hosted on a FreeBSD server - I can't execute the ubuntu binaries under a freebsd chroot.
[08:26] <abhinavmehta> IdleOne: :)
[08:26] <abhinavmehta> IdleOne: Thats what I was waiting for, couple of hours now
[08:27] <roflin> owk guys, im in kind of a pickle here. I had a missing icon and used a unity --reset to fix it. It did fix it but the process wouldn't end so i killed it. Now i lost all my settings (which is frustrating but my fault not complaining here) and whatever settings i apply in compiz, does not effect my desktop enviroment. setting number of workspaces for instance has no effect. Got any tips for me?
[08:27] <odie_> ActionParsnip, no change
[08:29] <Trond--> How do I get the microphone to work with Ubuntu 11.04? It is connect to the mic port in my motherboard.
[08:29] <rumpe1> Thelmaria, perhaps it's enough to add a user to /etc/group with empy password field "newuser::<userid>:newuser"
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> odie_: ok, remove the line. You may need to find an option for the motherboard, did you connect the fromt audio to the motherboard when you built the rig?
[08:31] <luckymurali> Hi all
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> roflin: retry the command maybe?
[08:31] <roflin> ActionParsnip: have tried that. no avail.
[08:31] <roflin> im doing a complete unity reinstall now, see if that helps
[08:32] <luckymurali> im using ubuntu 10.04 LTS the Lucid Lynx , I am able to ping  windows machine in the network but not able to do smb.Please help be to fix this out
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> roflin: could use gconf to unset the unity settings and get a vanilla setup, then rebuild
[08:33] <Pirsch> Hi All. I have a graphics problem. I cannot get the right resolution on my monitor. I believe its a Nvidia driver issue.\
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> luckymurali: press ALT+F2 and run:  smb://windowsname
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> luckymurali: change the name to the actual windows PC name
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> luckymurali: make sure if you have a firewall installed that it is allowing the traffic
[08:34] <roflin> owk will try that after this fails (just finished replacing all packages).
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> luckymurali: is the windows system running Windows7?
[08:34] <roflin> ill be rebooting now brb
[08:35] <odie_> When I have a window fullscreened, how do I make the unity launcher appear
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> odie_: could press SuperL
[08:35] <luckymurali> no windows XP
[08:35] <Pirsch> I've tried nvidia-setting but had no luck. I seem to remember a program called "envy". Is this the right name?
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> odie_: hold it sorry
[08:36] <odie_> isn't that really annoying?
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> odie_: not sure, I don't use gnome desktop
[08:36] <luckymurali> ActionParsnip,i dont have any firewall
[08:36] <odie_> What do you use?
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> odie_: lxde
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> luckymurali: is it windows 7?
[08:37] <luckymurali> ActionParsnip,no, windows XP
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> luckymurali: if you run:  smbtree    can you see the shares
[08:38] <luckymurali> i will try this command
[08:39] <kinglet> ActionParsnip iceroot_ back! Memory test result http://pastebin.com/0ifnuUXx , check disk for defects have same error I said when I want to install in Graphical mode or Live
[08:39] <kinglet> ActionParsnip I think iceroot_ right! Ubuntu cannot detect my hardwares! :(
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> kinglet: could try installing in text mode
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> kinglet: could also try failsafe bios settings
[08:41] <roflin> ActionParsnip: the reinstall didn't help and gconf won't launch and cannot be reinstalled from repository, any idea?
[08:41] <kinglet> ActionParsnip I said, text mode after configuring keyboard shows an error "Installation CD-ROM couldn't be mounted"
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> kinglet: could try minimal ISO, needs a web connection to work (use a wired link is waaay easier)
[08:42] <kinglet> ActionParsnip what is failsafe settings?
[08:43] <kinglet> ActionParsnip I cann't because my connection is not wired and I have shared connection :(
[08:43] <Pirsch> Hi, can anyone help me with a graphics issue please?
[08:43] <luckymurali> ActionParsnip,http://pastebin.com/3R03r9FJ
[08:43] <Pirsch> I seem to be missing a driver
[08:44] <roflin> have you tried additional drivers ?
[08:44] <luckymurali> ActionParsnip,if i run the smbtree
[08:44] <iceroot_> kinglet: i would suggest to try the "alternate-cd" or the betinstall/minimal cd which is pulling a new kernel directly at setup
[08:45] <iceroot_> kinglet: ah ActionParsnip already said that
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> luckymurali: really, very strange. Try running: /usr/bin/smbtree
[08:45] <kinglet> iceroot_ I cannot access to internet while installing ... ActionParsnip what is the failsafe bios settings
[08:46] <luckymurali> ActionParsnip,same error, and DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> kinglet: it will be an option in the BIOS, to load settings which turn off a lot of the nice features of the system but will more than likely work
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> kinglet: could also try installing via USB
[08:47] <kinglet> ActionParsnip Yes, you are right. I will try via USB
[08:47] <Unknown_Monkey> how does any one here ever use brlcad
[08:47] <ogzy> is there any one knows the difference between these two directories here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/releases/
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> ogzy: nothing at all
[08:50] <rumpe1> ogra_, the netbook-remix never was a bit difference and since natty it's the same.
[08:50] <iceroot_> ogzy: its just an alias/symlink, both are the same
[08:51] <ogzy> iceroot_:  i have an arm based netbook, what is the best ubuntu version to install on it? netbook remix?
[08:52] <iceroot_> ogzy: there is no netbook-remix anymore with 11.04
[08:52] <dooglus> can someone help me get ssh-agent set up pls?
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> ogzy: I'd use minimal then install lxde for a super light desktop
[08:52] <rumpe1> ogra_, usually there are two main options: the newest ubuntu or the last LTS release. Depends, how you weight stability and compatibility
[08:54] <kinglet> ActionParsnip I have burned DVD (not iso) , and CD iso with incorrect md5sum! should I try CD iso to create USB installer?
[08:54] <iceroot_> ogzy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/NattyReleaseNotes
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> kinglet: the DVD ISO is still an ISO
[08:54] <ogzy> ActionParsnip: minimal is with alternate cd right?
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> kinglet: if you'd MD5 tested the ISO you wouldn't have all this mess ;)
[08:55] <kinglet> ActionParsnip I know! but I have the original DVD and have not iso file! my connection is low speed so I cannot download it and maybe after download the same problem (md5sum incorrect I mean)
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> ogzy: no, minimal is minimal, alternate is alternate. They both install in text mode but minimal installs a bare minimal OS and can install the desktop stuff using the repos, the alternate will give the same desktop as the desktop installer, it just installs in text mode
[08:56] <henk_> kinglet: no one can help u with that im afraid, its your risk, and your responsibility to try that
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> kinglet: torrents help to check for errors, you can also gate the speed of the download in most clients
[08:56] <wildbat> !torrent | kinglet use torrent to dl iso ~ it is almost 100% sure that you have a good copy of ISO
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> kinglet: it will also allow you to pause the download
[08:57] <ogzy> ActionParsnip: but there is no iso for ARM: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[08:58] <wildbat> orgy : ubuntu in ARM is still porting ~
[08:58] <Metaxa> Hello folks, Looking for some help with video driver on a laptop.
[08:58] <wildbat> orgy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM
[08:59] <lyle> Oh,my laptop is getting slower after installed the ATI CCC driver.interesting.
[09:01] <Metaxa> I have a x600 video card, Ubuntu 8.04, using proprietry drivers but I am missing the top one inch of my screen. How do I move the image up like with CRT monitors?
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> ogzy: interesting
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> Metaxa: hardy desktop support is EOL
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> Metaxa: I suggest you upgrade to Lucid
[09:03] <Metaxa> ActionParsnip: Reason I am on 8.04 is that later version of Ubuntu no longer support my card because of X.org changing the server program. I am trying to get 3D working on this machine
[09:04] <Metaxa> ActionParsnip: I tried 10.04, 10.10, 11.04 all have the same problem
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> Metaxa: unfortunately the release is dead on the desktop
[09:05] <lol37> hi, is it possible to install nvidia drivers with a realtime kernel ?
[09:06] <Metaxa> ActionParsnip: Correction, when I use later versions the main screen stops working and I have to use and external monitor
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> lol37: should be, yes
[09:08] <lol37> because i tried
[09:08] <lol37> it didn't work
[09:08] <lol37> GPL module incompatible ...
[09:08] <lirong> request for pdf studio 6.2 keyword
[09:08] <henk_> Metaxa: have u investigated xorg.conf (usually in /etc/11) ? if not, start here
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> lirong: tried pdfedit ?
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> Metaxa: you may need to formulate an xorg.conf file (as henk_ says) to get the chip running in new xorg
[09:10] <Metaxa> henk_: Is it possible to tell the config file to move the display image up?
[09:12] <henk_> Metaxa: check http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.1/doc/xorg.conf.5.html
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> Metaxa: does your screen have an OSD?
[09:12] <Metaxa> Hum...I used gedit to change the xorg.conf file and now i'm in low grafic mode
[09:12] <lyle> If you're using a CRT monitor you can try move image up from its own setting  menu(OSD )
[09:12] <rahulkrishna_> just made my first IRC account
[09:13] <Metaxa> It is the laptop screen, no OSD.
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> rahulkrishna_: wtg :)
[09:13] <roflin> ActionParsnip: btw just to let you know the solution to my problem with unity was to install nvidia-current from the repos (i had them installed manually). i don't know why it fixed it but it did
[09:14] <henk_> Metaxa: "DisplaySize width height
[09:14] <henk_> This optional entry gives the width and height, in millimetres, of the picture area of the monitor."
[09:14] <henk_> Metaxa: quote from link above
[09:15] <Metaxa> on it, brb
[09:20] <asher^> hi. im trying to run a script as a different user, but im getting an error that the user is not in the sudoers file. im using the syntax sudo -u username /path/to/script (from root)
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> roflin: cool, as long as you got a fix :)
[09:21] <rumpe1> asher^, than add the user to a group, which is allowed sudo-commands (admin, sudo, ..) or add the user itself to sudoers-file
[09:22] <brubelsabs> How do I set geometry for evince? Aka: evince --geometry 100x100+0+0
[09:26] <ogra_> ogzy, heh, since i got pinged all the time here due to our names being so close, how about you drop by in #ubuntu-arm with your issue ;)
[09:27] <xgt001_> is there a way to make gnome 3 work with catalyst 11.8 on natty?(sorry for offtopic question)
[09:27] <brubelsabs> found the answer in the FAQ
[09:28] <xgt001_> is there a way to make gnome 3 work with catalyst 11.8 on natty?(sorry for offtopic question)
[09:28] <gry> !gnome3
[09:29] <Somelauw> Hi, what is a good backup program. I was thinking of just tarring everything?
[09:30] <xgt001_> i have gnome 3 up and running but using oss radeon drivers.... which eats a lot of power despite "low" powerprofile selection... any ideas of getting catalyst work with gnome 3
[09:30] <Metaxa> henk_: I opened the file, and looked over the link you gave me. I am assuming in the file I can specify things.  Under the Screen section it reads my laptop screen as Default Screen. Do i need to specify what brand/model it is to work properly?
[09:30] <Somelauw> I want to backup (just my home directory and maybe /etc). I want the backup to be made fast and I want it to be stored in a known format. (So I don't need the backup program again to restore it)
[09:30] <Somelauw> What would be a good choice?
[09:31] <iceroot_> Somelauw: rsync with hardlinks on the target-drive. hardlinks alaways against last backup
[09:31] <penos> if i connect my samsung galaxy s2 to my computer via usb cable will ubuntu recognize the device?
[09:31] <henk_> Metaxa: as long, as i know, u dont have to
[09:32] <iceroot_> penos: yes
[09:32] <Somelauw> The medium for my backup would just be an extern hard disk.
[09:32] <iceroot_> penos: but on some devices you have to set "drive, modem or people-sync"
[09:33] <iceroot_> Somelauw: thats not a problem
[09:33] <iceroot_> !backup | Somelauw
[09:33] <rahulkrishna> how to setup the password for my nick? i am using IRS for the first time and i am confused :(
[09:33] <iceroot_> !register | rahulkrishna
[09:33] <rahulkrishna> thanks iceroot :)
[09:34] <urlin2u> penos, various hots on the web looks like yes to some extent.
[09:34] <urlin2u> hits
[09:34] <Somelauw> iceroot_: Thanks.
[09:34] <rahulkrishna> !register | rahulkrishna
[09:34] <Somelauw> But rsync needs you to posses a server right?
[09:35] <Metaxa> henk_: Thank you for your help. I am unsure of what to try next. Things seem OK on the laptop except the image is 3/4 of an inch too low on the screen, leaving em with a black bar on the top of my screen.
[09:35] <urlin2u> Somelauw, no just two files really, I use it to backup to a external HD.
[09:37] <rumpe1> Somelauw, rsync is like cp with a bunch of fancy features
[09:38] <Somelauw> rumpe1: I read the first article and I think I would like incremental backup. Is that possible with rsync?
[09:39] <UbuntuVxz> What's the best backup system app for ubuntu 10.04?
[09:39] <popey> Somelauw: i use rsnapshot (which uses rsync) to do incremental backups
[09:39] <rumpe1> Somelauw, yes
[09:39] <Somelauw> Looks good so far.
[09:39] <rahulkrishna> shit man.. looks like i'll have to read more and be here more to get used to IRS! but i must say.. its geeky.. and its cook :)
[09:39] <rahulkrishna> oops.. cool
[09:39] <popey> UbuntuVxz: for the desktop, deja-dup will soon be the default backup app
[09:41] <Somelauw> rahulkrishna: Use /msg NickServ help and talk to the bot.
[09:41] <Stuhr> Is it possible to run educational dvd's from trainsignal on Ubuntu?
[09:41] <Metaxa> henk_: I think I found someone with the same problem and their xorg.conf file. going to back up my old one and try theirs, brb!
[09:41] <UbuntuVxz> popey: what do you mean by the desktop, i mean for the system and settings, you know!
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> Stuhr: possibly via wine if they are windows based
[09:43] <Stuhr> Ok :) Thanks
[09:43] <UbuntuVxz> !backup
[09:44] <paul_uk> hey all, just installed the latest release and opted to get the latest updates as well.  I've got an Nvidia GTS450.  Installation completed, rebooted and now my monitor has gone into standby.  I don't even go into the desktop, infact the booting screen was blank.  Is this a known problem?
[09:47] <rahulkrishna> yay.. at last got my nick registered.. thanks guys for helping :)
[09:47] <bakarakadaka> hi guys, just installed 11.04 on my samsung nc110 netbook and was wondering if there any way to add a cpu/hdd temp sensor on the upper toolbar
[09:48] <bakarakadaka> in 9.10 gnome i just right click and add applet
[09:48] <popey> UbuntuVxz: I meant "do you mean the ubuntu desktop or server"
[09:48] <bakarakadaka> but this unity thing doesnt let me right click on the toolbar
[09:49] <UbuntuVxz> popey: the system's files, not everything on the hard drive
[09:50] <paul_uk> hey all, just installed the latest release and opted to get the latest updates as well.  I've got an Nvidia GTS450.  Installation completed, rebooted and now my monitor has gone into standby.  I don't even go into the desktop, infact the booting screen was blank.  Is this a known problem?
[09:50] <g0rpb4ll> bakarakadaka: No, Unity doesn't allow anything like that. You'd need to switch back to Classic GNOME
[09:50] <paul_uk> I've just tried booting with nomodeset and it still has the same issue.  I'm just getting a blank screen and my monitor just shuts off
[09:50] <bakarakadaka> g0rpb4ll: ok, i can still use conky to display temp?
[09:51] <popey> UbuntuVxz: there's lots of options. sbackup, deja-dup, rsnapshot, rdiff-backup...
[09:51] <Hyperbyte> There is a bug in Fedora, where after enabling LDAP in nsswitch.conf, the system won't boot because it brings up network -after- it tries to authenticate users.  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502072  Does anyone know if this bug exists in Ubuntu as well?
[09:51] <g0rpb4ll> bakarakadaka: Yes, conky will still work
[09:51] <UbuntuVxz> popey: what folder has the system's files, etc, home, usr, var?
[09:52] <Abu-Aisha> is it possible to use the ms windows drivers provided by canon for my printer, it's a canon mg5240? there doesn't seem to be a driver available for linux ANYWHERE. i've looked
[09:52] <popey> UbuntuVxz: which specific system files do you want to backup? data or applications or settings?
[09:52] <popey> UbuntuVxz: I dont bother backing up the applications because it's quick to reinstall from scratch and just restore my data/settings
[09:52] <eng-3> Dear All, i have this lonovo G475 installed with lucid lynx inside, any the screen resolution seems not that cool, pls advise
[09:53] <bakarakadaka> g0rpb4ll: whatabout the sidebar, can i add items to that?
[09:53] <penos> is GNOME shell something like bottom bar in windows 7?
[09:54] <UbuntuVxz> popey: friend, i would say everything but my home folder
[09:54] <g0rpb4ll> bakarakadaka: If you're using Unity you don't have the classic features of a GNOME Panel, so no. You can't add the applets, as they're designed around classic GNOME.
[09:55] <bakarakadaka> g0rpb4ll: whatabout launch icons?
[09:56] <popey> UbuntuVxz: what will you backup onto?
[09:57] <whoppergator> bakarakadaka: if you are asking if you can add launch icons to the left menu in unity, the answer is yes. first start the program, then use the right click menu to make the icon stay even if the application is not running
[09:57] <vibhav> bakarakadaka, I used this guide http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/indicator-sensors-displays-cpu.html
[09:57] <bakarakadaka> whoppergator: ahh right thanks
[09:57] <UbuntuVxz> popey: my hard drive, i want something that works just like the restore point system in win7
[09:57] <paul_uk> hey all, my installation is reminiscent of F15, where I specifically had to use fallback mode to get my box to work.  Does unity have some sort of fallback mode?
[09:58] <vibhav> bakarakadaka, and To have Indicator-Sensors start automatically when you log in, launch "Startup Applications", add a new item and under command enter: "indicator-sensors"
[09:58] <popey> UbuntuVxz: we dont have that feature
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> eng-3: I just found linux drivers for it
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> eng-3: on the canon site
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> eng-3: http://www.canon.co.uk/Support/Consumer_Products/products/Fax__Multifunctionals/InkJet/PIXMA_MG_series/PIXMA_MG5240.aspx?type=download&page=1
[09:59] <popey> UbuntuVxz: I would recommend you backup your data, the apps are easy enough to reinstall
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> eng-3: took all of what, 2 minutes to find too
[09:59] <bakarakadaka> vibhav: i have indicator-sysmonitor but no sensor, how do i get that?
[10:00] <whoppergator> paul_uk: has someone helped you yet? yes you can fall back from unity to gnome-panel, but i don't think that will solve the issue you mentioned earlier
[10:00] <paul_uk> whoppergator: no i haven't got any help from anyone
[10:00] <vibhav> bakarakadaka, first do this sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nilarimogard/webupd8
[10:00] <whoppergator> paul_uk: so if i understand correctly, you boot the machine, then you get a black screen, and you are using an nvidia gfx card?
[10:01] <paul_uk> whoppergator: the issue is my gfx is not working at all.  i have a blank screen and nothing else.  I had the same problem with F15, I had to go into the CLI and change some settings to get gnome to show up.
[10:01] <paul_uk> whoppergator: yes
[10:01] <UbuntuVxz> popey: ok
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> paul_uk: if you use nvidia gpu and get black screen at boot then use the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[10:01] <eng-3> ActionParsnip: will check it
[10:01] <whoppergator> paul_uk: if this is a fresh install, then it sounds like an issue with the default driver. the blacklist entry ActionParsnip just mentioned is a good starting place
[10:02] <eng-3> ActionParsnip: wait on, is that a printer?
[10:02] <paul_uk> whoppergator: yes this is a fresh install
[10:02] <eng-3> ActionParsnip: am having problem with my laptop not printer mate
[10:02] <bakarakadaka> vibhav: alright i see it now
[10:02] <paul_uk> whoppergator: how do I get the options for the boot screen again?  im pressing every single combination but i get nothing
[10:02] <whoppergator> paul_uk: you can also check if the system has started up correctly, or even download and install the official nvidia gfx binaries by pressing ctrl+alt+F1 to get to the system console
[10:02] <bakarakadaka> vibhav: installing it
[10:03] <vibhav> bakarakadaka, Remeber to add it as a startup application
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> eng-3: sorry, mixed wires, as forabu-aisha, whom has now left
[10:03] <vibhav> Remember *
[10:03] <paul_uk> whoppergator: no the system does not correctly boot up
[10:03] <vibhav> btw what is your problem eng-3?
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> eng-3: can you give the output of:  sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a      use a pastebin to hold the text
[10:03] <whoppergator> paul_uk: so if you are at a blank screen after starting up, and you press ctrl+alt+F1, you do not see a console?
[10:03] <paul_uk> whoppergator: i have no access to yum as it says i need to install it lol.  to essentially the system is borked
[10:04] <whoppergator> paul_uk: what do you need yum for?
[10:04] <paul_uk> whoppergator: i have access to the console, but it doesn't work property because gnome/unity hasn't started and i don't then have access to wifi
[10:04] <paul_uk> whoppergator: to install drivers, etc?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> paul_uk: is the system a laptop?
[10:05] <whoppergator> paul_uk: when i encounter this sort of problem, the first thing i do is wire the internet connection so i can download. is a wired connection an option?
[10:05] <whoppergator> paul_uk: it is possible to do the entire wireless setup, nvidia download, install, and config from the command line as long as you have root access
[10:06] <paul_uk> ActionParsnip: no its a full blown system which had running F13, but then that died and I had to install with something newer
[10:06] <eng-3> ActionParsnip: here we go http://pastebin.com/XHK2t6r7
[10:06] <paul_uk> whoppergator: I have no access to a wired setup
[10:06] <paul_uk> whoppergator: the wifi is not available because UNITY hasn't started up lol and I don't have the time to spend trying to get it to work under CLI
[10:06] <UbuntuVxz> popey: thanks
[10:07] <whoppergator> paul_uk: i can provide commands...
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> paul_uk: if you use nvidia, then blacklisting the nouveau driver in grub should make it boot, you can then use the nv driver and get a screen
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> eng-3: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[10:08] <cheese_eater> Guys this is really annoying, I put my CD in, it boots to the purple ubuntu loading screen and it comes up with some stuff about finding a medium containing a live file system and some stuff about Busybox. How do I fix this?
[10:08] <paul_uk> ActionParsnip: whats the keycombo at the beginning?  I can't seem to get the bootup menu
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> paul_uk: hold shift at boot
[10:08] <paul_uk> ActionParsnip: ok will try
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> cheese_eater: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[10:08] <bakarakadaka> vibhav: ok so i just put in indicator-sensors in the startup list?
[10:08] <eng-3> ActionParsnip: 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 9802
[10:08] <cheese_eater> ActionParsnip: how do i do that? what program?
[10:09] <vibhav> bakarakadaka, Yes
[10:09] <cheese_eater> ActionParsnip: how do I MD5 test it???
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | cheese_eater
[10:10] <bakarakadaka> vibhav: ok thanks alot
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> cheese_eater: as you haven't tested the file, you have no idea if it is complete and consistent
[10:10] <cheese_eater> Alright thanks
[10:10] <Stuhr> im trying to install a Nvidia driver and has downloaded a .run file but ubuntu tries to open it in a texteditor... what am I doing wrong?
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> Stuhr: the nvidia drivers are in the repos
[10:10] <bakarakadaka> k thnx everyone
[10:10] <whoppergator> Stuhr: or, you just need to set the .run file as executable with chmod +x and run it as root
[10:11] <bakarakadaka> bye
[10:11] <Stuhr> Ok :) I'll try... thanks
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> Stuhr: you will need to kill the x server then use the file, I suggest you use the repos as it will update for you
[10:12] <Stuhr> repos it is then :)
[10:12] <cheese_eater> ActionParsnip: it doesn't say how to do it on windows...
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> cheese_eater: it does
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> cheese_eater: read the right hand side
[10:12] <cheese_eater> never mind I found it
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> cheese_eater: told you
[10:13] <moes> Lucid 10.04...Several times now my desktop has booted on its own to the desktop...Normally between the hours of 1:00am and 3:00am..authority log shows this entry..Aug 23 02:17:01 ray-desktop CRON[1874]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0)
[10:13] <moes> Aug 23 02:17:01 ray-desktop CRON[1874]: pam_unix(cron:session): session closed for user root
[10:14] <eng-3> ActionParsnip: any update on this ? :)
[10:14] <whoppergator> ActionParsnip: aren't the ubuntu repo nvidia drivers pretty out of date? or do the version numbers just not match up with those from their website?
[10:14] <xeviox> any known problems when installing gnome on my kde enabled ubuntu (used the kde meta package)?
[10:14] <fhenning09> Is there any 2wire pidgin ppl out there cause att has been a pain in my ass from day one now haven't used pidgin since l;ike a year back well I love the app but can't figure out how to get it to play with att's 2wire router any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated
[10:15] <cheese_eater> ActionParsnip: they are the same, so what now?
[10:15] <paul_uk> ActionParsnip: nouveau.blacklist=1 does not work for me.  i still get the the same error.  I even rebooted and missed hitting the shift key to try recovery mode and it said that my graphics driver failed and presented me with a menu but before i could choose my system powered off.  what a joke
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> cheese_eater: ok are you using USB or CD to install. Remember to MD5 test BEFORE using the ISO files you download so you are not wasting time or CDs
[10:16] <fhenning09> I have scoured the pkains in search of a solution to no avail
[10:16] <cheese_eater> ActionParsnip: CD
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> cheese_eater: did you test the CD for defects? Did you burn the CD as slowly as possible?
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> paul_uk: I don't see the joke...
[10:17] <whoppergator> paul_uk: can you try purging the nouveau driver with sudo apt-get --purge remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau?
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> paul_uk: use safe VGA boot option and you should be ok
[10:17] <cheese_eater> ActionParsnip: i couldn't even get into the ubuntu menu where you choose that stuff, and I just right clicked the image and clicked burn image to disk
[10:17] <paul_uk> ActionParsnip, how do I do that.  I'd love to just boot into vga?
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> paul_uk: it's specified in the boot options official doc
[10:19] <cheese_eater> ActionParsnip: to be honest i really don't want to do all this, windows was less buggy when I installed it
[10:19] <paul_uk> ActionParsnip: well for me it's a little bit of a joke.  Fedora 15 doesn't work for me.  Now I'm trying Ubuntu and I'm having similar issues.  Unfortunately I have to stick with linux as my primary 2TB drive is formatted to ext4.  I've been using linux since Fedora 10 and I've never had any issues.  Only recently. :(
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> cheese_eater: which desktop do you use?
[10:19] <cheese_eater> ActionParsnip: custom built
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> cheese_eater: no, Gnome? KDE? XFCE?
[10:19] <cheese_eater> ActionParsnip: windows I want to install ubuntu.
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> cheese_eater: what CD burning software do you use?
[10:20] <cheese_eater> ActionParsnip: the one that comes with windows 7
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> cheese_eater: I've not used it so not sure, burning slow helps a LOT. Boot to the CD and check the CD for defects
[10:20] <ogzy> how can i create an image of a bootable ubuntu usb that i created for ubuntu installation
[10:21] <cheese_eater> ActionParsnip: omg I can't check for defects it comes up with that when I try to boot to it! before the menu comes up
[10:21] <hiwk> I just installed google earth (the 64-bit deb on the google page) and the 2d-fonts are fucked up, how can I fix that?
[10:22] <wildbat> ogzy, dd if=/dev/sdX of=outputfile.dd.img bs=32k
[10:22] <wildbat> where X is your drive.
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> cheese_eater: hold shift at boot
[10:23] <cheese_eater> ActionParsnip: at bios or when ubuntu starts to boot
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> cheese_eater: immediately after BIOS
[10:23] <cheese_eater> kk
[10:24] <hiwk> found a suggestion for ttf-mscorefonts-installer, not sure if it works though (can't restart right now)
[10:24] <VxQf> fyi cheese_eater, the windows cd burning software is horrible.
[10:24] <whoppergator> paul_uk: so are you up for working this out via the terminal with me? or if you don't have time/are annoyed, i'd be happy to stop bothering you
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> cheese_eater: if you are using Win7, I suggest you use Win7 to resize it's own partition to make free space to install Ubuntu to
[10:24] <cheese_eater> vxqf: what would you suggest
[10:25] <cheese_eater> ActionParsnip: I have a second hard drive i'm gonna use
[10:25] <VxQf> Sorry, I haven't used windows to burn something in a long time. :/
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> cheese_eater: good enough :D
[10:25] <VxQf> I remember infra-recorder was okay.
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> cheese_eater: could try infra-recorder instead of Microsoft's attempt at a burning app
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> VxQf: nice suggestion duder
[10:26] <VxQf> NP.
[10:26] <cheese_eater> ActionParsnip: yeah my sister gives me blank disks to use >.<
[10:26] <VxQf> Make sure you burn it at the slowest possible speed.
[10:26] <VxQf> Can't stress that enough
[10:26] <VxQf> :)
[10:26] <moes>  Lucid 10.04...Several times now my desktop has booted on its own to the desktop after being shut down for the night.
[10:27] <ogzy> wildbat: will the 32k byte size keep the image bootable?
[10:27] <VxQf> moes: Is Wake-On-Lan enabled in the bios?
[10:27] <VxQf> And are you 1000% certain it's shutdown and not suspended or something?
[10:28] <wildbat> ogzy: it is just block size for each read and write do at atime default is 512 it just make it read or write faster ~ it backup the whole drive.
[10:29] <JoeR1> I would like to change the contextual menu text "Empty Trash" to "Exterminate Trash" - I am quite serious - How would I do this?
[10:29] <moes> VxQf, Wake on lan not enabled...The power to the case front is off and the monitor is off
[10:29] <cheese_eater> k I held shift..
[10:29] <cheese_eater> yay!
[10:29] <cheese_eater> do I check the disc first?
[10:29] <cheese_eater> ActionParsnip: do I check the disc first?
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> cheese_eater: yes, if it comes back ok then we know the instal media is pristine
[10:30] <VxQf> Moes: Ubuntu can't make your computer start when it isn't even running.
[10:30] <paul_uk> whoppergator: thanks for your kind offer.  I know I am getting frustrated, but I've been having issues for a couple of weeks now.  Anyway I've managed to boot into safe mode and I am also connected to the internet.  I'm going to try and install the nvidia drivers and see what happens next
[10:30] <paul_uk> ActionParsnip: many thanks for your help so far
[10:30] <paul_uk> whoppergator: many thanks for your help also!
[10:30] <cheese_eater> ActionParsnip: okay, it's just got a black screen and a cursor and the disc drive is making a sound
[10:30] <Vi> hi, can somebody tell me how can i check which package is owner of some specific file?
[10:31] <rumpe1> Vi, dpkg -S <filenamepattern>
[10:31] <cheese_eater> !ping
[10:31] <jiltdil> i want to remove grub entery of fedora from ubuntu please tell me how(absolute path )
[10:31] <moes> VxQf, Those were my thoughts but its happening but not on regular basis
[10:32] <cheese_eater> ActionParsnip: Okay now it's just doing the usual Ubuntu loading screen (The purple one..)
[10:32] <VxQf> moes, Check environmental influences.
[10:32] <JoeR1> Shall I take it that no one has the information I need or did my post get flooded away?
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> cheese_eater: let it run, see what happens
[10:32] <liam> what would be the best way to give the ubuntu user on my ec2 instance write access to /var/www ?
[10:32] <VxQf> JoeR1, I know it's possible
[10:32] <VxQf> Not sure exactly how
[10:32] <VxQf> Sorry. :(
[10:32] <bullgard4_> '~$ ps aux | grep syslogd' does not produce any output. What is the successor or substitute to syslogd in Lucid?
[10:33] <cheese_eater> ActionParsnip: dammit it did the same thing, unable to find a medium containing a live file system...
[10:33] <Vi> rumpe1, ok, but how to check ie. what package is owner of /bin/nc ?
[10:33] <JoeR1> VxQf, No worries, I appreciate you taking the time to answer, I have been browsing the forums looking for clues but I have come up empty handed.
[10:33] <Stuhr> If I'm asking too much... please say so :D But is there some kind of virtual dvd software for ubuntu? like daemon tools and so...
[10:33] <matrixiumn> hello
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> cheese_eater: I'd burn a new CD with a different burner as sowly as you can, or try a USB install using unetbootin
[10:34] <cheese_eater> ActionParsnip: I'll use InfraRecorder this time around on the slowest speed. Cheers.
[10:34] <matrixiumn> $seen pyalot
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> Stuhr: it's already in, the OS can mount ISOs already
[10:34] <Stuhr> Cool :D
[10:35] <whoppergator> JoeR1: i think i remember something called nautilus-actions that you might look into. it let me add custom actions, but i don't konw if it can edit the defaults
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> Stuhr: Wnidows is primitive and needs extra software installing, Linux has been able to do that stuff for ages
[10:35] <jiltdil> ActionParsnip: i want to remove fedora from ubuntu grub how to do that
[10:35] <cheese_eater> hey no need to bag on windows it's good for some things...
[10:35] <cheese_eater> like burning..
[10:35] <JoeR1> whoppergator, thank you, I shall do so immediately
[10:35] <matrixiumn> lol
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> Stuhr: you can use acetoneiso or at cli:  sudo mkdir /media/iso; sudo mount -o loop /path/tofile.iso /media/iso
[10:35] <cheese_eater> you can use the disk for your camp fire..
[10:35] <VxQf> JoeR1, might have something for you...
[10:35] <VxQf> sec
[10:35] <cheese_eater> if you want
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> jiltdil: my grub skills suck
[10:35] <Vi> oh pls doesn't apt-get know where it puts files? its got to be some way of checking what's package is owner of /bin/nc ....
[10:35] <JoeR1> ok
[10:36] <Stuhr> ActionParsnip: Sounds like I don't need windows :P
[10:36] <matrixiumn> has any bots been here
[10:36] <matrixiumn> *have
[10:36] <rumpe1> Vi, should be netcat-openbsd *guess*
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> Vi: dpkg -S nc | grep bin
[10:36] <jiltdil> i want to remove fedora from ubuntu grub how to do that
[10:37] <bullgard4_> !grub | jiltdil
[10:37] <VxQf> JoeR1, give nautilus-actions a go. You will probably need to install it.
[10:37] <Vi> ok, thank you :) guys, still its strange that there's no such option of querying
[10:37] <JoeR1> whoppergator, I would love for Ubuntu to play an audio clip of a Dalek saying "Exterminate!" when I empty my trash would nautilus-actions bee suited to that?
[10:37] <VxQf> Sadly I can't open it, probably because I am not running ubuntu desktop. :/
[10:38] <JoeR1> VxQf, thank you, I will be looking into it momentarily
[10:38] <whoppergator> JoeR1: yes! since you could trigger a script from the menu action
[10:38] <matrixiumn> !seen pyalot
[10:38] <matrixiumn> damn
[10:38] <Stuhr> Do I need anti virus software on Ubuntu?
[10:38] <cheese_eater> Stuhr: No
[10:38] <bullgard4_> Stuhr: No.
[10:38] <JoeR1> whoppergator, That would be completely excellent
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> JoeR1: you can set the sound events in the settings
[10:38] <cheese_eater> ActionParsnip: Do I write at 7x speed? That's the slowest it can go.
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> !av | Stuhr
[10:38] <IdleOne> Stuhr: unless you plan on sharing files with windows
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> cheese_eater: yes, if that is the slowest given
[10:39] <VxQf> cheese_eater, that will do.
[10:39] <Stuhr> Ok :) Thanks
[10:39] <cheese_eater> Thanks ^^
[10:39] <matrixiumn> !list
[10:39] <matrixiumn> yes
[10:39] <whoppergator> JoeR1: I may borrow that idea in the future if you are okay with giving the daleks a larger foothold in our world
[10:39] <matrixiumn> oh
[10:39] <cheese_eater> ActionParsnip: VxQf: What write method? It has a whole bunch of them
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> cheese_eater: the default will be fine
[10:40] <cheese_eater> Alright writing now.
[10:40] <JoeR1> whoppergator, to which I say, EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> JoeR1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omByF8hD6EQ   may help
[10:42] <JoeR1> ActionParsnip, Thank you, I shall view it
[10:43] <Stuhr> Hmm... I'm beginning to like this... If I some day wanted to run a Ubuntu server... is it based on a gui or old fashioned text?
[10:43] <DJones> Stuhr: Server is by default text based with no gui
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> Stuhr: text is default and advised
[10:43] <Stuhr> Ok :) Is is possible to learn all of the commands and so using Ubuntu desktop?
[10:44] <IdleOne> !cli | Stuhr
[10:44] <cheese_eater> ActionParsnip: does it usually have a blank screen for a while with a cursor
[10:44] <JoeR1> Nautilus actions was already installed ( I have no idea why) I need a command to check the version
[10:44] <IdleOne> JoeR1: apt-cache policy package_name
[10:45] <JoeR1> thanks IdleOne
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> cheese_eater: can't remember, I usually use USB these days
[10:46] <cheese_eater> ActionParsnip: it did it again...
[10:46] <cheese_eater> ActionParsnip: still says that live file system crap
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> cheese_eater: with the slow CD?
[10:47] <cheese_eater> ActionParsnip: yep...
[10:47] <cheese_eater> ActionParsnip: I'm about to just say screw this and stay with windows.. that's already 2 discs..
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> cheese_eater: on the same screen as the CD test there is a RAM tester, did you run that?
[10:47] <cheese_eater> ActionParsnip: it didn't even get to the menu
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> cheese_eater: weird, ok
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> cheese_eater: all I can suggest is the USB install. Otherwise not sure but we have isolated a lot of things the issue ISN'T which is good
[10:48] <paul_uk> whoppergator: I have purged the nouveau driver with sudo apt-get --purge remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau.  But I tried following a doc to install the latest nvidia drivers and they are already there.  I have the same problem with a blank screen on bootup.  So, all i can do is boot up with fail safe gfx :(
[10:49] <paul_uk> whoppergator: I have even tried to recreate xorg.conf and then restarted X but I get the same thing.  So I am stuck atm
[10:50] <cheese_eater> ActionParsnip: looks like I have to find a usb now.. for god's sake
[10:51] <whoppergator> paul_uk: wow that is one persistent bugger. umm, the only other thing i can think of is to remove the nvidia driver, then either try reinstalling the same one again, or try a slighter older version
[10:52] <abstrakt> is * * */1 * * valid syntax for crontab to run "once per day"
[10:53] <JoeR1> I swear I am better acquainted with computers than it appears but I cannot find how to use nautilus-actions
[10:53] <cheese_eater> yeah fuck this I've already wasted 2 discs and about 2 hours of my time downloading this crap and I don't have a USB.. funny how people say this is better than windows..
[10:53] <paul_uk> whoppergator: i know.  im kinda resigning myself to not getting this working.  I previously had an ATI card in there, swapped it out for an Nvidia and having the exact same issues :(
[10:53] <gry> JoeR1, What's the issue again please?
[10:53] <IdleOne> cheese_eater: Please mind your language in here
[10:54] <JoeR1> gry just trying to run nautilus-actions
[10:54] <JoeR1> or use or whatever
[10:54] <paul_uk> whoppergator: isn't nouveau a 3rd party nvidia driver?  Isn't there offical drivers I can install?
[10:54] <gry> JoeR1: And?
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> abstrakt: i suggest you set an hour to run at and use that in the cron
[10:54] <JoeR1> gry I don't know how to
[10:54] <cheese_eater> IdleOne: maybe I wouldn't be so mad if I didn't run into problems from the start of trying to install this
[10:54] <dc5ala> abstrakt, better specify the hour it should run
[10:54] <gry> JoeR1: ok
[10:55] <paul_uk> cheese_eater: try wasting 2 weeks on the same problem and wasting 12 hours in downloading distributions.  where i am 1 dvd takes 4 hours :/
[10:55] <IdleOne> cheese_eater: losing your temper/patience wont help you install.
[10:55] <whoppergator> paul_uk: woah, yeah have you been tryping to use the nouveau driver this whole time? you should use the official nvidia ones. nouveau is the open source driver being developed since the official one isn't very interoperable with the linux kernel
[10:55] <cheese_eater> IdleOne: neither will a crappy operating system.
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> abstrakt: if you have a desktop system, you can install gnome-schedule and use that to configure jobs. run it with gksudo if you want to cron as root
[10:56] <paul_uk> whoppergator: well I have been trying the one that the installer uses.  This is my first day with ubuntu, so I am at the mercy of the installer :)
[10:56] <IdleOne> cheese_eater: the OS works fine, maybe you are doing something wrong or maybe the hardware is faulty
[10:56] <JoeR1> gry - I do not know how to start nautilus-actions or if you even start it, I know nothing about it and it was already installed when I tried to apt-get it
[10:57] <cheese_eater> IdleOne: i know my hardware isn't faulty I built the entire system myself and tested it, never ran into a problem in windows but already i'm getting problems 1 minute into trying to install it.
[10:57] <IdleOne> cheese_eater: I know this much if ActionParsnip couldn't help you to get Ubuntu installed then there is a problem that is not caused by the OS.
[10:57] <gry> JoeR1: type 'nautilus-actions' in Terminal
[10:57] <whoppergator> JoeR1: try to launch with nautilus-actions-config-tool
[10:57] <pr0ton> what is the channel where i can ask mapreduce questions?
[10:57] <cheese_eater> IdleOne: md5 was fine, my hardware is fine, used 2 discs and 2 different programs
[10:58]  * mang0 sighs
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: MD5 tested ISO, slow burned CD, seems fine. Possibly bad media is all I can suggest hence USB suggestion
[10:58] <paul_uk> whoppergator: It says that the Nvidia Accelerated drivers are currently in use.  But then it also says that no properitery drivers are in use.  So I am confused here.  What drivers are installed ?
[10:58] <cheese_eater> ActionParsnip: not everyone has a USB around though, why would I need one
[10:58] <whoppergator> paul_uk: try apt-get install nvidia-current and see what it says
[10:59] <JoeR1> gry - I am not that stupid, I tried that and nothing happened
[10:59] <paul_uk> whoppergator: ok.. also thanks for bearing with me.  I do appreciate the help you are giving me.
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> cheese_eater: handy for installs and transporting files to non-web accessible systems
[10:59] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: I saw you tried everything. What I meant to say is you know your trouble shooting and if you can't get it working I doubt the problem is with the software.
[10:59] <cheese_eater> ActionParsnip: when all the work I do is on the one computer? yeah...
[10:59] <whoppergator> paul_uk: np at all. :)
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: if you can suggest anything then go for it dude
[10:59] <JoeR1> whoppergator, well done, that seems to be getting me somewhere\
[10:59] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: I can't :)
[11:00] <cheese_eater> well people
[11:00] <mang0> I'm in a sticky situation! I want to stay with Ubuntu, i like it quite a bit more than windows, but I can't play all my windows games on ubuntu, even with wine. Steam lags (a lot!). I do have windows 7, but I don't wanna switch as my hardware is old, and won't run win7 fast. I just need a couple of programs to work in ubuntu and wine, and I'll defo stick. Or I can swap to windows...I just dunno what to do :(
[11:00] <cheese_eater> im sure that one day canonical will develop an OS that actually lives up to the description of stable
[11:00] <cheese_eater> until then
[11:00] <paul_uk> whoppergator: it says its the latest version installed
[11:00] <cheese_eater> fuck this shit
[11:00] <mang0> O.o
[11:01] <whoppergator> paul_uk: try to purge it and reinstall then. maybe apt-get purge nvidia-current then try the install again. remember in safe mode it won't list any restricted drivers because none will be active
[11:01] <gry> JoeR1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91377
[11:01] <paul_uk> whoppergator: sure.  I will try.  hopefully I don't get the same blank screen issues
[11:02] <JoeR1> thanks gry but whoppergator 's suggestion seems to have been what I needed
[11:02] <gry> JoeR1 ok
[11:02] <bullgard4_> I have got a zombie process: ID=1563, Process Name=tilda, Status=Zombie. '~$ kill 1563' does not kill it. How can I kill it?
[11:02] <jasonmsp> Is there anyway in command line to cat a file and then colorize specific words? I can do this with grep, but that only pulls the containing lines.  I'd like to still see the whole document?
[11:02] <Atlantic777> Hi! My touchped stopped working. It worked last night, everything was normal then battery was empty and system has shutted down. Now I can't move pointer, clicks on touchap don't work.
[11:02] <Atlantic777> I can't even start gpm.
[11:02] <Atlantic777> It simply fails.
[11:03] <whoppergator> JoeR1: yeah it bothers me when the launcher app, like nautilus-actions-config-tool, isn't just the name of the package
[11:04] <bullgard4_> Atlantic777: Please open a pseudo terminal. Read dmesg for error messages.
[11:04] <glebihan> bullgard4_, you can't kill a zombie process, unless you kill its parent (which is usually init, so no you can't kill it...)
[11:05] <JoeR1> whoppergator, worse yet no one was hinting that the name was different, not even the Nautilus actions website
[11:06] <paul_uk> whoppergator: did what you said.  but i have the same issue.  reboot, boots, then black screen and monitor says no signal :(
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> jasonmsp: the guys in #bash may know
[11:07]  * nuno_nunes boas tardes a todos
[11:07] <whoppergator> jasonmsp: are you trying to find all occurances of a string or just pick a different color? less can do the former
[11:08] <bullgard4_> glebihan: '~$ pstree' tells me that the parent process of tilda is not init but gnome-session.
[11:08] <Atlantic777> bullgard4_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/673057
[11:08] <Atlantic777> i can't find something useful
[11:08] <glebihan> bullgard4_, then that process will die when gdm session ends, if you really need to kill it, restart gdm
[11:09] <whoppergator> paul_uk: what card is this so i know to avoid it? hopefully this is actually a gfx problem so that we aren't barking up the wrong tree. it could be an issue elsewhere in the system
[11:09] <glebihan> bullgard4_, I meant gnome session
[11:09] <jasonmsp> whoppergator: both.  I need a way to view a large document and be able to scan through it till i see the string i need.  but I need to see the whole document and each occurance in context.  So I can't just grep the the occurances.
[11:09] <glebihan> bullgard4_, so you would just have to log out and back in
[11:09] <bullgard4_> glebihan: I wished to kill this one tilda zombie process but not to kill another running tilda process.
[11:10] <paul_uk> whoppergator: its a GTS 450
[11:10] <whoppergator> jasonmsp: try less, then use the forward-slash search function
[11:10] <whoppergator> paul_uk: ah it's one of those newer beasts
[11:10] <paul_uk> whoppergator: I doubt it's an issue with the system.  Also I have an ATI HD 4870 and it showed exactly the same issues as the GTS 450 under F15.
[11:10] <jasonmsp> whoppergator: in the man page now.  Thanks!
[11:10] <glebihan> bullgard4_, why do you need to kill it ? a zombie process is basically already dead
[11:11] <Atlantic777> jasonmsp: I think grep is capable of doing that. Read man, there are some options for grep to show you few lines before and after found occurance.
[11:11] <whoppergator> jasonmsp: less can do crazy useful things i didn't know before i played around with it, like read gzipped text without unzipping first
[11:12] <silare> I like the font antialiasing settings of GNOME Shell. Is there a way I could copy the way it does it back to Classic GNOME (GNOME 2)?
[11:12] <architek9> My volume  in ubuntu 10.04 isnt working the audio wont mute or lower whats going on?
[11:13] <jasonmsp> whoppergator: isn't that what zcat is for?  j/k   Yeah there is a ton of stuff here in the less file that I never noticed.
[11:13] <jasonmsp> thanks!
[11:13] <Atlantic777> architek9: try alsamixer from terminal.
[11:14] <_vaibhav_> when i connect a pendrive to linux system, it loads the respective driver, i dont understand who tells kernel that which driver to be loaded with respect to vendorID and productID and usb class which is provided by usb device itself.
[11:14] <whoppergator> jasonmsp: try zcat with a 5TB compressed text log file from a busy server :P
[11:14] <jasonmsp> ha!
[11:14] <architek9> now what?
[11:14] <nail__> hi
[11:15] <amfg> hi
[11:15] <whoppergator> jasonmsp: less can even turn of its indexing so it won't slow down when working with huge files like that
[11:15] <whoppergator> off*
[11:15] <Atlantic777> architek9: can you change volume from alasmixer?
[11:15] <architek9> anytime i want to change my volume i have to use the terminal?
[11:15] <architek9> yes
[11:15] <bullgard4_> Atlantic777: I cannot find an Synaptics error in your dmesg. So there must be a more fundamental error (which I have not found). --  You will probably have to report a more basic observation about the misfunctioning of your computer. gdm and Touchpad errors seem to be only secondary.
[11:15] <architek9> ?
[11:16] <Atlantic777> architek9: and what doesnt work?
[11:16] <architek9> i can change from the terminal in alsamixer but not anywhere else
[11:16] <architek9> when i try and change the volume from hardware or even the sound menu in preferences
[11:16] <Atlantic777> architek9: you can't move slider or nothing happens when you move slider?
[11:17] <architek9> nothing happens when i move the slider
[11:17] <architek9> it doesnt even mute
[11:17] <Atlantic777> bullgard4_: so what do you suggest?
[11:17] <bullgard4_> glebihan: There is somthing wrong with my Tilda. Tilda is sometimes stubborn and somtimes it crashes. I have not yet found out what is wrong with my configuration. --  Tilda works ok on antoher test user account.
[11:17] <architek9> i have to adjust the slider on the individual program
[11:17] <Atlantic777> architek9: whatch if something changes in alsamixer when you move slider.
[11:17] <Atlantic777> master slider*
[11:18] <architek9> nothing happens in aslamixer when i move the slider
[11:18] <whoppergator> paul_uk: okay, final thought on your issue. first make sure your kernel is up to date, then you could try a beta driver from the nvidia website, there is a thread about your card at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1584982
[11:19] <glebihan> bullgard4_, well I'm not familiar with tilda so I won't be able to help you on that, but still is there a particular reason you want to kill that process ? (which as I said you won't be able to do anyway without restarting gnome-session)
[11:19] <Atlantic777> architek9: maybe to check which device is chosen in sound manager or whatever it is called.
[11:19] <paul_uk> whoppergator: yeah my kernel is up to date, made sure of that.  Will check out the thread.
[11:19] <architek9> what do you mean?
[11:20] <whoppergator> paul_uk: gl man, let me know if you find out anything, but for now i am stumped :(
[11:20] <paul_uk> whoppergator: will do, thanks for your help tho :)
[11:20] <Atlantic777> architek9: many new computers have 2 sound cards, analog and digital. Maybe you switched to digital output. But that shouldn't hear the music playing...
[11:21] <Atlantic777> jasonmsp: and what have you done with less? (:
[11:21] <architek9> my output is
[11:22] <architek9> analog stereo duplex
[11:22] <architek9> 1 output / 1 input
[11:22] <gpetrakis> How can I enable IPV6 for testing?
[11:22] <Atlantic777> architek9: sorry I don't have more ideas.
[11:23] <SwedeMike> gpetrakis: miredo is an ipv6 teredo tunneling client, that can get you started with the basics.
[11:23] <bullgard4_> Atlantic777: You could try to boot your computer in rescue mode and see if it starts.  You could try on a virtual console '~$ sudo service gdm restart' and analyze the ensuing error messages.
[11:24] <gpetrakis> SwedeMike: Thanks
[11:24] <bullgard4_> glebihan: I'd like to kill it for analytical purposes only.
[11:24] <Daghdha> Hello. I have 2 nics, and one doesn't show up in the Network connections in the GUI
[11:25] <Daghdha> I see them both in a shell if i do ifconfig though
[11:25] <glebihan> bullgard4_, then you got your answer :)
[11:25] <Daghdha> Should i just add it manuallY?
[11:25] <bullgard4_> glebihan: Right. --  Thank you.
[11:25] <glebihan> bullgard4_, you're welcome
[11:28] <Loco23> hello
[11:28] <Onlyodin> In the unity panel, is there a way to restart the indicator panel processes (for clock, messaging, battery indicator, etc)?
[11:28] <Onlyodin> Short of rebooting that is
[11:30] <_vaibhav_> how ubuntu knows which driver to be loaded when any usb device gets connected
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> _vaibhav_: its a generic one, udev picks it up
[11:30] <theadmin> _vaibhav_: udev handles that. If you want to modify that behaviour, you may write an udev rule
[11:33] <whoppergator> Onlyodin: why not just kill the panel process? it's called unity-panel-service. or i think it's more friendly if you use unity --reset
[11:34] <theadmin> whoppergator, if you unity --reset it also resets all unity settings iirc
[11:35] <paul_uk> whoppergator: installed those drivers which I think where the same ones I had.  Same problem.  I'm going to go with a beta set and then give up.  Does anyone know a LIVE CD with the latest nvidia drivers baked in?
[11:36] <whoppergator> theadmin: Onlyodin: true, i would probably just kill it then
[11:36] <whoppergator> theadmin: nice catch
[11:36] <theadmin> whoppergator: A fairly obvious one actually, heh
[11:37] <whoppergator> theadmin: :X
[11:37] <JadedJacob> Hi, a friend of mine asked me to setup linux on their laptop, but I don't know where to begin.
[11:37] <theadmin> JadedJacob: "where to begin"? Begin with downloading an ISO image and burning it.
[11:37] <JadedJacob> Pretty sure they want a mixture of eye candy and performance
[11:37] <theadmin> JadedJacob: Ubuntu's fine for that
[11:37] <theadmin> JadedJacob: Kubuntu gives ya more eyecandys
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> JadedJacob: download the ISO, MD5 test it then either burn slowly to CD or use unetbootin to transfer to USB/SD card
[11:38] <JadedJacob> heh, I'm going to setup an iso onto a flashdrive, save having to burn a cd :)
[11:38] <aguitel> how to connect Samsung - Galaxy Tab 10.1 with pc running ubuntu ?
[11:38] <theadmin> JadedJacob: You can save a flashdrive as well, using Grub to boot the ISO :D
[11:38] <Onlyodin> oops.
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> JadedJacob: thats fine, its faster and takes a lot of error possibilities out. just remember to MD5 test the file so you know it's good
[11:38] <theadmin> aguitel: Just plug it in... Android works out-of-the-box with Linux
[11:38] <whoppergator> paul_uk: there are distribution rules against including those drivers iirc. :(
[11:38] <JadedJacob> oh true? via grub awesome!
[11:39] <Onlyodin> I did unity --reset and the launcher panel on the left disappeared.
[11:39] <aguitel> theadmin, no usb in Samsung - Galaxy Tab 10.1
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> paul_uk: distros like Mint have them in but the Mint community is not as big as the Ubuntu one
[11:39] <JadedJacob> does ubuntu 11 use less resources than 10?
[11:39] <paul_uk> whoppergator: hmm looks like im well and truly stuffed.  or maybe next choice is to go xfce with another distro
[11:40] <theadmin> Aurus: Ah... That could be a problem... Bluetooth?
[11:40] <theadmin> Oops
[11:40] <theadmin> aguitel: ^
[11:40] <theadmin> Aurus: Sorry, tab fail
[11:40] <whoppergator> Daghdha: it couldn't hurt to add the nic manually and see if it works! if it doesn't you might have to remove any manual settings for that nic in the networking config files
[11:40] <theadmin> JadedJacob: More
[11:41] <paul_uk> whoppergator: my xorg.conf says my monitors are unknown, would that make an issue?
[11:41] <theadmin> JadedJacob: If you need something lightweight you should really use Openbox or Xfce or something
[11:41] <aguitel> theadmin, you say via bluetooth ?
[11:41] <theadmin> aguitel: Just an idea, but idk
[11:41] <whoppergator> Onlyodin: at this point i would reboot :P   did you have something against just killing the process?
[11:42] <Onlyodin> apathy perhaps
[11:42] <whoppergator> paul_uk: possibly. delete your xorg.conf altogether and let the nvidia-settings program re-make it for you
[11:43] <JadedJacob> Ok, my friends computer is an asus laptop.
[11:43] <JadedJacob> Intel® Pentium® Processor T2080
[11:43] <JadedJacob> (1M Cache, 1.73 GHz, 533 MHz FSB
[11:43] <JadedJacob> 2GB RAM.
[11:44] <theadmin> JadedJacob: More than enough to run Ubuntu, do not worry
[11:44] <paul_uk> whoppergator: hmm tried that already and get the same results...
[11:44] <theadmin> JadedJacob: It's not Windows 7 you know
[11:44] <JadedJacob> the cpu only has a 32bit instruction set.
[11:44] <theadmin> JadedJacob: Then download the 32-bit Ubuntu version.
[11:44] <Daghdha> I made a script that i start from an icon on the desktop but the terminal that is opened doesn't show any output. The program is running though.
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> JadedJacob: seems to be 32bit http://ark.intel.com/products/29740/Intel-Pentium-Processor-T2080-(1M-Cache-1_73-GHz-533-MHz-FSB)
[11:44] <JadedJacob> Yeah, but that CPU is pretty dated now.
[11:44] <Daghdha> Is there a switch i can add to the commandline or something?
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> JadedJacob: its way better than anything I have
[11:45] <theadmin> JadedJacob: I do agree... Is it at least an i686-compatible processor? If so we're fine
[11:45] <Onlyodin> It would have to be x86
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: does xterm run ok?
[11:45] <JoeR1> hey, I'm using Xfce - Xubuntu straight did not start as Ubuntu - and Thunar sucks, is there a way to make the system default o Nautilus for everything?
[11:45] <Daghdha> yes, the app also runs. I just don;t get a cursor or see output
[11:46] <JadedJacob> how do i found out if its a i686 compatible?
[11:46] <Daghdha> my command in launcher properties is: /home/admin_dude/start-sabnzbd
[11:46] <zone> Hi
[11:46] <Daghdha> And that's just a shells cript
[11:46] <JadedJacob> http://ark.intel.com/products/29740
[11:46] <whoppergator> paul_uk: if you have tried this with both an AMD board and a NVIDIA board and had exactly the same result, perhaps it is a kernel support issue for your motherboard.
[11:47] <paul_uk> whoppergator: I hope that's not the case!
[11:47] <reenignEesreveR> how do i compile for arm from ubuntu?
[11:47] <theadmin> JadedJacob: Um, you do not need to worry there, it is
[11:47] <JoeR1> hey, I'm using Xfce - Xubuntu straight did not start as Ubuntu - and Thunar sucks, is there a way to make the system default o Nautilus for everything?
[11:47] <k_89> hey, anyone from india here? i am running into weird problems with tata photon+
[11:47] <theadmin> JoeR1: Applications Menu -> Settings -> Preffered Applications
[11:48] <theadmin> JoeR1: Select a different filemanager
[11:48] <JoeR1> thanks, theadmin
[11:48] <cexsum> JoeR1: you can do that without the irony.
[11:48] <theadmin> JoeR1: I don't see any reason to not like thunar though
[11:48]  * theadmin prefers mc and pcmanfm, however
[11:49] <whoppergator> paul_uk: lookup your motherboard support for linux. if it is the case, you might be able to fix it with a bleeding-edge kernel or one custom compiled with support for your mobo
[11:49] <JoeR1> cexsum, I don't know what you mean, none of my comments here should be taken as ironic
[11:49] <cexsum> hi.  i got a problem.  i can't boot Windows from Ubuntu.
[11:49] <cexsum> JoeR1: then you shouldn't be here.  scram.
[11:49] <JadedJacob> I'd really like to setup KDE for my friend.
[11:50] <cexsum> KDE is just so easy to compile.
[11:50] <JoeR1> cexsum, what are you talking about - I mean I really have no idea what driving at.
[11:50] <cexsum> i don't have any idea why you reply to me at all.
[11:50] <k_89> to generalize my problem, i have a certain wireless internet device. Now when I connect it to windows, it works fine. I connect it to my linux box, the device is not even detected. ( it appears briefly as a cd drive and then vanishes). I copied the contents of that device in windows to a pen drive and when i connect in that pen drive, i see the autorun menu. I think its most probably because of permissions
[11:51] <k_89> sudo ls -al
[11:51] <JadedJacob> So there's noway for me to do a minimal install of ubuntu and then install KDE over the top?
[11:51] <Thelmaria> JadedJacob: Use kubuntu :)
[11:51] <JoeR1> cexsum, because you gave me a hard time for using irony when i wasn't using irony and then you tell me to scram like yoo're some hot thing so whats your deal?
[11:52] <b4ll_s4ck> JadedJacob: Use the alternate install CD, then install specific KDE packages. You might be better off using Debian though, it's better suited for such things
[11:52] <cexsum> Ubuntu was never born.  it's a fork of Debian only to market your own techniques.
[11:52] <bazhang> JoeR1, cexsum lets move on
[11:52] <dumbledore> how come Ubuntu+Installed Most Common Used Applications+All The Applications We Can Fit only takes 1 CD while Windows 7 requires a DVD?
[11:52] <paul_uk> whoppergator: I'm running a P4 lol.  My mobo should really be supported. heh
[11:53] <theadmin> dumbledore: I think it's got something to do with the data on the CD being compressed into a single filey
[11:53] <theadmin> dumbledore: All those apps and whatnot
[11:53] <cexsum> so the weather is good out there?
[11:53] <bazhang> !ot > cexsum
[11:54] <theadmin> cexsum: Please read the !guidelines and follow the rules, and don't be !offtopic
[11:54] <whoppergator> paul_uk: wait, does that mean you have a GTS 450 on a motherboard with a P4 chipset?!
[11:54] <cexsum> yeah right.  you think i would listen to boss men?
[11:54] <paul_uk> whoppergator: yes
[11:54] <theadmin> cexsum: There you have it.
[11:54] <theadmin> Geez.
[11:54] <theadmin> Moving on.
[11:55] <paul_uk> whoppergator: I don't think this is hardware related.  It's too easy to blame that.  If I can get this running in a fallback mode, then it must be related to the video.
[11:55] <Guest35931> hi
[11:55] <whoppergator> paul_uk: are you sure that your motherboard even supports the GTS 450? it probably is only running PCI Express 1.0 if even that.
[11:55] <Guest35931> is there anyone to help me ?!
[11:55] <paul_uk> whoppergator: yes I am sure it is capable of running that
[11:56] <Guest35931> i want sync folder between centos and Ubuntu
[11:56] <whoppergator> paul_uk: the boards can support a fallback mode on old motherboards for basic VGA, but they won't do more without the bandwidth support. what is your motherboard?
[11:56] <Thelmaria> Guest35931: man rsync.
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> Guest35931: use rsync, or dropbox
[11:57] <Guest35931> i used rsync
[11:57] <Guest35931> but i need realtime rsync
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> Guest35931: dropbox does that well :)
[11:57] <gry> it is
[11:58] <gry> rsync does the job
[11:58] <theadmin> Guest35931: Dropbox does that as well as it can get.
[11:58] <afeijo> hi guys
[11:58] <Guest35931> i have 500 gb data on source
[11:58] <theadmin> afeijo: Hello.
[11:59] <JadedJacob> hmmmm
[11:59] <Guest35931> does it help ?
[11:59] <afeijo> I just installed ubuntu 11.04, I have 2 monitors but it detected only 1
[11:59] <paul_uk> whoppergator: I've had a videocard with my mobo running at 1920x1200 and 1440x900.  It's not my hardware.  This is related to F15 and Ubuntu going Gnome 3 and Unity and for some reason I cannot run it.
[11:59] <paul_uk> Is there a Ubuntu with XFCE ?
[11:59] <JadedJacob> I think I'll have to go with ubuntu pure
[11:59] <gry> afeijo: Hardware details please?
[11:59] <theadmin> paul_uk: Xubuntu
[11:59] <gry> !xubuntu > paul_uk
[11:59] <whoppergator> paul_uk: xubuntu
[11:59] <afeijo> gry: nvidia board, 2 samsung 931bw monitors
[11:59] <paul_uk> ok, I'm gonna see if that works.  Thanks all
[11:59] <KUUGA-RX> Have any of you tried that Baidu.com Internet Browser yet?
[11:59] <JadedJacob> since the laptop is about 4-5 years old, should I use ubuntu 10.10 ?
[12:00] <Thelmaria> Guest35931: 500GB will cost a little with dropbox. You could do it with cron+rsync every 1-2 minutes.
[12:00] <IdleOne> !ot > KUUGA-RX
[12:00] <gry> afeijo: Does it see it in system>prefs>monitors.
[12:00] <whoppergator> paul_uk: really really, i'm serious about gfx card support. the newer gfx cards use higher pci express revisions. what is your motherboard? i will check for you just to be sure
[12:00] <Onlyodin> Is there a separate channel for discussion regarding Ubuntu+1 (oneiric)?
[12:00] <IdleOne> #ubuntu+1
[12:00] <bazhang> Onlyodin, that very one
[12:00] <IdleOne> odly enough
[12:01] <afeijo> gry, in Unity, I type monitor and the app that opens shows only 1 monitor, as unknown
[12:01] <Guest35931> any suggestion reg rsync
[12:02] <gry> afeijo Sorry unfamiliar with that - never used that app myself
[12:02] <afeijo> gry, it is the app for configuring the monitors, to chose the resolution and position
[12:02] <b4ll_s4ck> Guest35931: After the initial sync to copy lots of files, rsync is extremely quick to do minor updates. Just schedule it to run often
[12:02] <afeijo> gry, must be what you asked me to open :)
[12:02] <Onlyodin> IdleOne, bazhang, thankyou.
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> Guest35931: could cron an rsync job every 3 minutes or so
[12:03] <IdleOne> Onlyodin: welcome
[12:03] <afeijo> btw, nvidia driver is installed
[12:03] <afeijo> version 270.41.06
[12:03] <theadmin> Guest35931: There are alternative softwares, you can just check here: http://alternativeto.net/software/rsync/?platform=linux
[12:03] <afeijo> oh, found something in the nvidia settings
[12:03] <bbbbbbbb> my laptop has a little touch key designed to switch the touchpad on and off. how can i: 1. find out which input this key generates 2. map it to "gconftool-2 --set /desktop/gnome/peripherals/touchpad/touchpad_enabled --type=bool false" resp. "... true"?
[12:03] <afeijo> do I need Xinerama??
[12:03] <KUUGA-RX> Which brand of Hard Drive should I get?
[12:03] <gry> afeijo: The one I was referring to is 'gnome-display-properties'
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> KUUGA-RX: any, they all obey standards
[12:04] <bazhang> KUUGA-RX, thats not an ubuntu support question, try ##hardware
[12:04] <afeijo> gry, yes the same
[12:04] <b4ll_s4ck> KUUGA-RX: You have to be careful with Ubuntu support for the hard-drive. Most are fine, apart from a few solid state drives
[12:04] <afeijo> ouch, how can I open an app as sudo?
[12:05] <theadmin> bbbbbbbb: xev can tell you waht key-code the key generates, if any
[12:05] <gry> !gksu > afeijo
[12:05] <afeijo> thanks gry
[12:06] <theadmin> gry: There is no need to PM people with help details.
[12:06] <theadmin> rofl
[12:07] <bbbbbbbb> theadmin: okay, so the windows driver simply maps the top left corner of the touchpad to this action. is there a way to copy this behaviour with gsynaptics?
[12:07] <Guest35931> how set read & write but no delete and overwrite in samba
[12:08] <theadmin> bbbbbbbb: Sorry, not sure
[12:08] <gry> Guest35931: 'write' includes delete and overwrite, sorry
[12:08] <bbbbbbbb> okay, i'll look around to see if i can find something
[12:09] <Guest35931> any suggestion ?
[12:09] <Guest35931> what is chmod 1777 stand for ?
[12:10] <iceroot_> Guest35931: security-issue
[12:10] <iceroot_> Guest35931: http://www.delphifaq.com/faq/f1380.shtml
[12:11] <Guest35931> how set read & write but no delete or overwrite in samba
[12:11] <iceroot_> Guest35931: #samba
[12:11] <paul_uk> whoppergator: thanks for wanting to check.  I'm going to try XFCE and then see what happens after that.
[12:11] <gry> Guest35931: http://www.webmajestic.com/chmod.html for chmod
[12:12] <Guest35931> thank you Ice
[12:12] <whoppergator> paul_uk: i can't think of a motherboard now that has support for a P4 and a GTS 450, but i am by no means perfect. let me know how it goes
[12:12] <gry> Guest35931: (The page gives examples; reading docs and trying to understand might helps to get started with that on your own)
[12:13] <paul_uk> whoppergator: it should work in theory.  I have an SSD ATA 3 plugged into here and its running fine lol.  Although at ATA1 speeds heh
[12:15] <ari3l> hello
[12:15] <whoppergator> paul_uk: i'm worried about that step down support for the GTS 450. with tempermental drivers like that and the gfx card being asked to step down, it may be where your problem is. backwards support isn't perfect even on windows for that
[12:15] <gry> ari3l: Hi.
[12:16] <ari3l> anyone here?
[12:16] <Stuhr> Im starting to like ubuntu already... Im even thinking about removing windows!
[12:16] <gry> ari3l: Some.
[12:18] <gry> Stuhr: That's safe - just make sure you don't lose any important data. There is a guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/md.html
[12:18] <ari3l> hello?
[12:19] <BluesKaj> Hey  all
[12:19] <gry> ari3l: Hi!
[12:19] <gry> BluesKaj: Hey there.
[12:20] <BluesKaj> hi gry
[12:20] <gry> Hi hi.
[12:21] <ari3l> can someone please say something?
[12:21] <IdleOne> ari3l: such as
[12:21] <DeaCon> something
[12:22] <mang0> ari3l: something
[12:22] <mang0> no wait
[12:22] <mang0> ari3l: something?
[12:22] <dr0pb3ar> I am having a problem with a western digital hard drive. I have plugged it in and it is definitely powered up and spinning but it is not coming up when I plug it in. It isn't coming up on gparted either... any help would be much appreciated.
[12:23] <mang0> dr0pb3ar: what format is it?
[12:23] <blink> I hear the word Openbox so often, what's that suppose to me? links?
[12:23] <usr13> dr0pb3ar: So what kind of drive is it? IDE, SATA etc.  And is it internal?  Or is it USB?
[12:23] <afeijo> Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'!
[12:24] <IdleOne> !openbox
[12:24] <dr0pb3ar> fat32 I assume. it is for a mate of mine... he uses windows and doesn't know... so I would assume fat32 or NTFS
[12:24] <dr0pb3ar> it is a usb drive
[12:24] <dr0pb3ar> usr13: it is a usb drive
[12:25] <usr13> dr0pb3ar: sudo fdisk -l   #See if it shows up there
[12:25] <usr13> ... you can pastebin the results if you want us to look
[12:26] <dr0pb3ar> how do you talk at someone in red like that? that command doesn't show it up.
[12:26] <kasper_> If i want to install a new kernel with a deb, i need to install both the headers and the image right?
[12:26] <usr13> dr0pb3ar: The drive is spinning up you say?
[12:26] <Pici> dr0pb3ar: Your client hilights it when someone starts a message with your nick.
[12:26] <dr0pb3ar> Pici: like this?
[12:27] <lolcat> dr0pb3ar: Lik this
[12:27] <IdleOne> dr0pb3ar: correct
[12:27] <dr0pb3ar> usr13: yes
[12:27] <lolcat> People can't talk to me in red!
[12:27] <usr13> dr0pb3ar: It more-than-likely is just bad.  HDs go bad sometimes... so
[12:28] <dr0pb3ar> ok... so no other ideas?
[12:28] <tester> hi
[12:28] <whoppergator> dr0pb3ar: what does dmesg say? is the drive even being detected?
[12:29] <usr13> dr0pb3ar: If it is powered up and connected via good cable and you don't see it in the output of   sudo fdisk -l   then it is probably just a bad drive
[12:35] <JackVoo> if it can be detected, it will be accessible
[12:37] <sls> als
[12:40] <kasper_> If i want to install a new kernel with a deb, i need to install both the headers and the image right?
[12:40] <Delano> I want to scan a drive for viruses. I'm running Maverick and have the drive attached via usb cable. I've installed clamtk but I can't find it anywhere. Where do I look?
[12:40] <Delano> How do I do it?
[12:40] <Linux_me_hait> hum, j'aurais besoin d'aide...
[12:40] <OerHeks> Delano, clamtk is a commandline scanner.
[12:41] <Delano> OerHeks, oh! Duh
[12:41] <Delano> I thought it was a gui
[12:41] <Delano> Is there a gui for it?
[12:41] <afeijo> how to fix this? "Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'!"
[12:41] <OerHeks> oh sorry Delano, clamtkl is the gui allrighjt
[12:41] <Delano> k
[12:41] <afeijo> plus this: "VALIDATION ERROR:  Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[12:41] <afeijo> Device section "Default Device" must have a Driver line."
[12:41] <IdleOne> OerHeks: clamtk is the GUI
[12:42] <Behi> What is meant by an "end-to-end programmer"?
[12:42] <IdleOne> OerHeks: but you said that :)
[12:42] <Delano> So, how do I use it? Am I missing something?
[12:42] <IdleOne> Delano: in terminal type the command clamtk
[12:43] <IdleOne> it should start it up
[12:43] <blink> ? openbox
[12:43] <Delano> Thanks, IdleOne
[12:43] <IdleOne> !openbox > blink
[12:43] <Delano> Is there a way I can create a shortcut on my desktop or start menu perhaps
[12:43] <Delano> ?\
[12:44] <IdleOne> Delano: it should have added a menu item.
[12:44] <Delano> Ah, it appears now that I ran it
[12:44] <Delano> Thanks so much for your help. Even though I was being a n00b.
[12:44] <IdleOne> Delano: welcome :)
[12:45] <PuffTheMagic> .
[12:47] <ThePilote> Salut
[12:47] <ThePilote> Salut
[12:47] <ThePilote> Quelqu'un peut parler ?
[12:48] <Pici> !fr | ThePilote
[12:48] <rypervenche> ThePilote: oui, mais pas ici
[12:48] <G00053> #ubuntu-fr
[12:48] <ThePilote> On parle pas ici ?
[12:49] <Pici> ThePilote: #ubuntu-fr svp
[12:49] <IdleOne> ThePilote: en anglais seulement.
[12:49] <BluesKaj> pas icic . parle a #ubuntu-fr
[12:49] <damagednoob> are the number of ssh connections to an ubuntu server limited to 2 ip addresses?
[12:50] <Pici> damagednoob: Shouldn't be.
[12:50] <hiwk> damagednoob: no
[12:50] <damagednoob> okay thanks
[12:53] <BluesKaj> Pici, what about ssh servers using several different ports simultaneously . Is this possibe because all I ever see in tutorials is port 22 or 222 , but never att the same time.
[12:53] <JoshR> Hello.
[12:53] <gry> Hi.
[12:53] <hiwk> BluesKaj: possible
[12:53] <JoshR> I have a question for those of you in the know.
[12:54] <hiwk> BluesKaj: just add multiple Port rows in your sshd config file
[12:54] <mcad23> Just done a fresh install of 11. Got dual monitors. I cant drag a window from one to the other
[12:54] <BluesKaj> hiwk, yeah I was just curious altho I have no reason to do so now
[12:54] <MInner> Morning guys. Can anybody tell me: if I copy var\cache\apt form one PC to another - would apt install packeage from cache if it consists there?
[12:55] <p0rtInna382> BluesKaj: Yes, that's possible
[12:55] <mcad23> Using Unity and  i can see the other monitors desktop
[12:55] <popey> MInner: not in my experience
[12:55] <bazhang> !aptoncd | MInner
[12:55] <popey> MInner: i use squid-deb-proxy-server and squid-deb-proxy-client to cache downloads
[12:55] <dabukalam> !ubuntu
[12:55] <JoshR> I am running Ubuntu 11 on my laptop.  I have it Dual Booting Windows 7 and Ubuntu off the same HDD.  I want to prevent Ubuntu from mounting the Windows 7 partition.  I am not sure how to accomplish this.
[12:56] <hiwk> BluesKaj: I've used that on a machine I wanted to access from outside a NAT using port forward through a stupid router, so from outside I ssh
[12:56] <MInner> Well, I need to download them to a single PC only. There's no network.
[12:56] <hiwk> sshed to 2222 or something, and 22 form inside the net
[12:56] <hiwk> JoshR: edit the /etc/fstab file accordingly
[12:57] <hiwk> JoshR: I bet there is a fancy GUI for that, but I'm a debian native
[12:57] <MInner> (I have installed it on one PC, now I need to install some of them on other PC (preferently from cache))
[12:57] <D^BLackHackO> Hello, Everybody
[12:57] <D^BLackHackO> I'm Korean Student
[12:57] <MInner> I have installed them* - some packages.
[12:58] <hiwk> MInner: I think so (given the same architecture), why not try :)
[12:58] <D^BLackHackO> so, you can not understant what I say, that's sorry
[12:58] <hiwk> MInner: otherwise, you could set up a local repository, don
[12:58] <hiwk> MInner:don't know exactly how to do that tho
[12:58] <BluesKaj> hiwk, I just ssh on a lan , no need to do so for remote pcs
[12:59] <bony> i get an error while starting ffserver it says "Address family not supported by protocol". Please help me
[13:00] <MInner> hiwk: Okay. I'll try to. And have a look at what is local repository.
[13:00] <qemubernd> Hello, can anybody help me configuring qemu so I can use a virtual machine via VNC?
[13:01] <qemubernd> I tried several tutorials but they didn't give any desired result.
[13:01] <xrdodrx> qemubernd, why QEMU instead of something like VirtualBox?
[13:01] <oz6t_hugo> msg nickserv identify oz6t_hugo minaprs38
[13:02] <bazhang> oz6t_hugo, use /
[13:02] <Pici> oz6t_hugo: Please change your password.
[13:02] <BluesKaj> oz6t_hugo, type that in the server text box , not the chat
[13:02] <xrdodrx> oz6t_hugo, /msg nickserv set password newpasswod to change your pass, since you just released it into the channel. ;)
[13:03] <xrdodrx> You should configure your client to send it automatically
[13:03] <xrdodrx> for next time
[13:03] <Stijnh> Hello. I'm using 11.04, is it possible to install htpasswd without installing apache2-utils or mini-httpd?
[13:03] <qemubernd> xrdodrx, dunno, just searched for virtualisation possibilities and qemu was the one I knew. Is virtualbox able to bring the virtual machine into network?
[13:03] <hiwk> qemubernd: yes
[13:04] <xrdodrx> qemubernd, yes, I think the easiest thing for you to do would be to virtualize your OS with virtualbox then install a VNC server on the virtual machine
[13:04] <hiwk> qemubernd: (somewhat depending on what you mean by "bring into network?")
[13:05] <VictorCl2> how can I search a text that's inside a bunch of files on a folder? .. from the interface
[13:05] <VictorCl2> there is no option to search inside folders
[13:05] <VictorCl2> rightmouse button on a folder doestn give search options
[13:06] <qemubernd> Well. I have a normal windows network and an ubuntu server. As wine can't handle a special windows server app, I wanted to bring a virtual computer with Windows Xp, which should be reachable inside the network.
[13:06] <xrdodrx> VictorCl2, you have a bunch of text files in a directory and you want to search for a string that could be in any of them?
[13:06] <VictorCl2> yes
[13:07] <Phate> hi at all!
[13:07] <xrdodrx> VictorCl2, open a terminal, type "grep "string or regular expression to find" /path/to/directory/*"
[13:07] <VictorCl2> yeah but ... why can't we do this from the interface??
[13:07] <xrdodrx> the terminal is an interface
[13:07] <xrdodrx> :P
[13:07] <VictorCl2> I mean from the graphics .. mouse click ... etc
[13:08] <xrdodrx> VictorCl2, well there might be a program like that, but if there's not you're free to write one
[13:08] <VictorCl2> I never remember this commands .. everytime I have tosearch for something I have to look the commands ... 10 minutes to search for damn text ¬¬
[13:09] <JoshR> Thanks Hwik.
[13:09] <cloud9> Hello
[13:09] <dc5ala> VictorCl2, there is a search function in the places menu, it has the option you looking for when you expand the advanced options
[13:09] <BluesKaj> VictorCl2, create a text file with commands  to save for future reference
[13:09] <afeijo> ok now I have the dual monitors working, but I cannot drag any window to the right monitor?? do I need that xinerama option?
[13:10] <xrdodrx> afeijo, do you have the same picture on both screens?
[13:10] <afeijo> xrdodrx, I have the wallpaper on both screens, mouse goes to both, right click works on the second screen, but that is it. Useless screen :(
[13:10] <qemubernd> hiwk, will this scenario work?
[13:10] <AdvoWork> if ive just done uname -m and it shows i686, does that tell me if its 32 or 64 bit? or neither?
[13:10] <JoshR> Oh wait I can't edit it with a text editor.
[13:11] <JoshR> x86
[13:11] <auronandace> AdvoWork: 32bit
[13:11] <AdvoWork> hmm, 2 diferent answers lol
[13:11] <JoshR> x86 is 32
[13:11] <hiwk> qemubernd: yes
[13:11] <AdvoWork> kewl, thanks for that
[13:11] <JoshR> So its one answer lol
[13:11] <AdvoWork> JoshR, i meant from what i've already been told
[13:11] <hiwk> quiescens: depending on the settings you choose in virtualbox, your virtual machine can get its own IP
[13:11] <JoshR> ahh ok
[13:12] <dc5ala> VictorCl2, i mean the main menu on top with that, not the nautilus one
[13:13] <VictorCl2> ok .. yes but if you are inside folder .. you still have to browse to there
[13:13] <JoshR> yet when I try the uname -m i get x86_64
[13:13] <imac24> Hello guys!
[13:14] <damagednoob> i'm trying to connect to an ubuntu server and it says connection closed but it's only happening from a certain client machine
[13:14] <damagednoob> how do i debug that?
[13:14] <JoshR> Could be a network configuration issue.
[13:14] <afeijo> funny is that with my pendrive ubuntu, same version, all works with my screens
[13:14] <gry> damagednoob: Connect using which protocol?
[13:14] <schnuffle> damagednoob: connect through ssh?
[13:14] <hiwk> damagednoob: what do you mean by connect?
[13:15] <damagednoob> sorry, it's through ssh
[13:15] <JoshR> If you can connect with other devices but not one machine that is a likely case.
[13:15] <harry218> hi guys, i'm using an eee netbook with amd c50. the problem is i can't watch youtube in 720p even in 480p is sometimes laggy. there's no such lag with my native win 7 starter. do you guys know how to fix this?
[13:15] <hiwk> damagednoob: if it is ssh, try ssh -vvv
[13:15] <gry> damagednoob: If it's ssh, run the client's command with '-vvv' switch to debug.
[13:15] <afeijo> another symtom, ccsm ask me to pick which screen I want to configure? it should affect both
[13:15] <imac24> could someone help me to figure out where to locate a flashDriver I've just inserted on my machine please?
[13:15] <afeijo> I will enable xinerama and test. How to restart gdm without reboot?
[13:15] <schnuffle> damagednoob: on the server side check syslog and firewall log
[13:16] <xrdodrx> afeijo, sudo service gdm restart
[13:16] <JoshR> I have tried editing the /etc/fstab file but it will not let me modify it.
[13:16] <damagednoob> schnuffle, i'll try that, the ssh client is putty
[13:16] <JoshR> Oh I need to log in with root don't I.
[13:16] <arcsky> hello can anyone see what could be wrong with my source.list http://pastebin.com/PAnhffbv ?
[13:17] <dc5ala> afeijo, try sudo restart gdm
[13:18] <schnuffle> arcsky: on line 4/5 there should be a space after dists
[13:18] <lostvoices> is there a way to change to unity on 11.04 without logging out? every time i log out and choose  Ubuntu it comes back in as classic. i would like to try the new unity
[13:19] <schnuffle> JoshR: use sudo to edit it. Ubuntu doesn't have the root account activated, so: sudo vi /etc/fstab
[13:19] <Reliant> My upgrade from 10.04 to 11.04 hasn't gone very smoothly :/
[13:19] <JoshR> ya that didn't work
[13:19] <schnuffle> lostvoices: if you don'T have 3D support it will always default to classic
[13:20] <JoshR> You can log into the root account.
[13:20] <Reliant> Something broke with my cookies on my local apache, and KDevelop crashes if I use the keyboard
[13:20] <VictorCl2> http://comic.naver.com/webtoon/detail.nhn?titleId=350217&no=20&weekday=tue
[13:21] <lostvoices> schnuffle i have an ATI 1gb card in my laptop. i thought that would support it :/ i guess not
[13:21] <schnuffle> JoshR: please be more precise. What didn't work. sudo? Then your user isn't in the sudoers file and isn't the first user you created
[13:21] <schnuffle> lostvoices: you need the correct driver. Check under system preferences hardware
[13:22] <lauratika> hello everyone is there an gnome applet for bandwith meter?
[13:22] <lostvoices> i have the proprietry driver.. i just ran  /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p   and got segmentation fault.. so i will check this out
[13:22] <JoshR> sudo vi /etc/fstab did not work
[13:23] <MK``> lauratika: the gnome panel System Monitor one shows a little graphic for you
[13:23] <schnuffle> lauratika: yes, but don'T know the name. There'S something called netstatus which could be what you're looking for
[13:23] <JoshR> Wait, Ok I see my mistake, it does work
[13:24] <JoshR> Ok so now that I'm in there, how do I edit it?
[13:25] <schnuffle> JoshR: fine :) and what was the error to keep in mind when the next one asks?
[13:25] <JoshR> Oh i typed vi/etc/fstab
[13:25] <schnuffle> JoshR: not familiar with vi. Then use gedit: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[13:25] <Reliant> Anyone know some decent IDEs in Ubuntu for working with PHP files?
[13:26] <schnuffle> Reliant: Eclipse but it's a beast
[13:26] <Reliant> isnt' that one more java oriented?
[13:26] <schnuffle> Reliant: It has plugins for c,c++,php,python but is written in Java/SWT
[13:27] <jimijix> Hi, i have alot of files that were created in ubuntu with double aposthropes and question marks, and i can't open or move them in windows. Please, can anyone help me?
[13:27] <schnuffle> Reliant: the flavour you're looking for is PDT http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project.php?id=tools.pdt
[13:28] <JoshR> brb
[13:28] <schnuffle> jimijix: use find to search for them and sed to rename
[13:31] <schnuffle> jimijix: there'S even a handy tool called rename, f.e. this would delete all white spaces in the filenames: rename "s/ *//g" *.mp3
[13:31] <imac24> could someone help me to figure out where to locate a flashDriver I've just inserted on my machine please?
[13:31] <jimijix> schnuffle: thanks, is that tool in ubuntu?
[13:31] <schnuffle> imac24: inserted? downloaded or installed?
[13:32] <Reliant> strange. Installed debugging symbols to file a kdevelop crash report, and the crash went away
[13:32] <schnuffle> jimijix: yes on my machine
[13:32] <jimijix> scnuffle: thanks, I'll try that :-)
[13:32] <imac24> schnuffle, I inserted into the usb port.
[13:33] <imac24> Now I can't locate it on the OS.
[13:33] <JoshR> Ok so commenting out the entries in fstab did not keep my Windows 7 partition from being mounted.
[13:33] <schnuffle> imac24: aaah a flash drive. Open a terminal and type mount
[13:33] <mcad23> php-cgi nginx, where do i modify the php-cgi config file??
[13:34] <schnuffle> mcad23: should be /etc/php5/cgi/php.ini
[13:34] <julian> jimijix: eg to change MP3 to mp3: for src in *.MP3; do tgt=$(echo $src | sed 's/MP3/mp3/'); mv $src $tgt; done
[13:34] <rumpe1> JoshR, you can also add "noauto" to the mount options in fstab, which means that the partition won't be mounted during booting
[13:35] <An_Ony_Moose> what is the encryption used for /etc/shadow?
[13:35] <lauratika> schnuffle: thanx, i installed via software centre but cant see the applet
[13:35] <seaquake> Hey in sound preferences I have no option "Analog Stero Output + Analog Stereo Input"... as in I can't use my microphone - any ideas?
[13:35] <julian> jimijix: eg to remove a space in filenames in your MP3s; do tgt=$(echo $src | sed 's/\ //g'); mv $src $tgt; done
[13:36] <julian> jimijix: (note different sed expression)
[13:36] <schnuffle> julian: rename is much more handy for novice
[13:36] <julian> schnuffle: oh.. you're right.
[13:36] <An_Ony_Moose> ah, never mind
[13:37] <jlebar> My desktop is hanging on startup after an update I applied last night.  I'm not sure how to troubleshoot this.
[13:37] <schnuffle> julian: but i must admit my first construct relied on find and grep :)
[13:37] <lauratika> sorry got disconected
[13:38] <schnuffle> lauratika: you need to right click into the panel and add the widget
[13:38] <jpmh> I need to send a special character code sequence to a printer - the printer recognizes it and opens a cash drawer - I assumed I could just echo >/dev/lp0 but I get a permissions issue even when as root - how do I do this
[13:38] <Pici> jpmh: have you tried: echo 'whatever' | sudo tee /dev/lp0
[13:39] <jimijix> Julian: thanks, is there anyway to do this in windows? my ubuntu just went south :-(
[13:39] <jpmh> Pici: no - but I have done sudo echoc >/dev/lp0 - why do you think this latter is different
[13:39] <lauratika> schnuffle: yes try that...but is not there in panel menu... maybe i have to restar?
[13:39] <javier__> hi. I'm in ubuntu 11.04 and want to use hdmi to display in a tv screen. Problem is with sound, doesn't sound in tv speakers. How can I correct that? (have sound in tv throw hdmi?)
[13:39] <Pici> jpmh: Because sudo does not cross IO redirection operators.
[13:40] <imac24> schnuffle, ok, it showed a bunch of text, and now?
[13:40] <jpmh> Pici: aha - ty - will be right back after trying
[13:40] <schnuffle> imac24: can you see your flash being mounted somewhere, mostly /media/......
[13:40] <JoshR> Ok, so I tried that and it doesn't show it on the Unity bar I think it is called ( the bar on the left of the screen).
[13:40] <bakarakadaka> hi guys i just installed 11.04 on my samsung nc110 netbook and i think everything is working ; i notice under the proprietary driver thingy there is a mention of "broadcom sta wireless driver" What is this and do i need it? My wireless seems to be working fine...
[13:41] <JoshR> It also does not show up in the media folder or the mnt folder.
[13:41] <JoshR> However it still shows up in places.
[13:41] <schnuffle> JoshR: what did you put in /etc/fstab?
[13:42] <JoshR> noauto
[13:42] <schnuffle> JoshR: So you want a flash drive not to be mounted after inserting it?
[13:42] <JoshR> No, I am attempting to hide the Windows 7 Partition.
[13:42] <JoshR> Completely.
[13:43] <JoshR> Well visually
[13:43] <JoshR> lol
[13:43] <schnuffle> JoshR: AAaaah, let me check
[13:43] <jpmh> Pici: thank you so much - brilliant
[13:43] <JoshR> I also have a 41 MB partition that keeps showing up(it doesn't mount but is listed as swap in fstab).
[13:43] <Pici> jpmh: great to hear it works.
[13:44] <jpmh> bakarakadaka: I have found that installing the driver at least ensures that I get updates
[13:44] <schnuffle> JoshR: One suggestion is to move the mount point out of /media
[13:44] <imac24> schnuffle, thank you.
[13:45] <bakarakadaka> jpmh: updates to what?
[13:45] <JoshR> Ok, how would I go about doing that?
[13:45] <schnuffle> imac24: so you found your drive?
[13:45] <jpmh> k
[13:45] <schnuffle> JoshR: Wait, that method doesn't feels good, checking for better
[13:46] <JoshR> ok
[13:46] <JoshR> Thanks everyone who has helped.
[13:46] <_vaibhav_> how linux kernel come to know which madule to be loaded for respective device?
[13:46] <p3rsist> Any great alternative to Dropbox for linux? Im having problems with cant sync errors... in ubuntu.
[13:47] <JoshR> Ubuntu One but it isn't cross platform.
[13:47] <nickname_> computers dont understando about love
[13:47] <bakarakadaka> man love
[13:47] <Pici> !ot
[13:47] <JoshR> Hang on there is another one that I have been using that I think is cross platform.
[13:48] <jpmh> I have one system that when I do apt-get upgrade all seems fine but then at the end it tells me dpkg returned errors- looking back I see that it told me that errors were encountered while processing linux-image-.2.6.32-32 generic
[13:48] <JoshR> The problem is it is limited to 2GB for the free service.
[13:48] <bakarakadaka> JoshR: according to the splash screen it is
[13:49] <schnuffle> JoshR: An idea: change the mount point to something like /media/.<somename> The dott is the important, because it will hide it
[13:49] <nickname_> oh sure. with a mainframe the limit is higher :p
[13:49] <schnuffle> JoshR: so you can still access it but it's hidden from nautilus
[13:49] <bakarakadaka> JoshR: ubuntu1 's splash screen syays ubuntu, windows, web or mobile access
[13:50] <schnuffle> p3rsist: there'S http://sparkleshare.org/ not quite ready but sounds promising
[13:51] <nickname_> i dont believe in promises
[13:51] <misaq> hello
[13:51] <schnuffle> not quite ready means it's already wirking but may have some nit and bits
[13:51] <JoshR> Hmm, well schnuffle I don't want access to it.  What I am attempting to do (this might be important) is create a small partition that I run Linux on (right now it is a 64 GB partition).  I do not want to see the Windows 7 partition at all.  Right now it is not mounted but I can still see it in the places list when I'm in any file browser.
[13:52] <bakarakadaka> hey guys what is the shortcut to restart x in 11.04?
[13:52] <misaq> how can i enter a channel with my registered nick?
[13:52] <JoshR> Which makes it easy to accidentally click and mount.
[13:52] <bakarakadaka> it used to be alt+ctrl+backspace right?
[13:52] <JoshR> I am starting to think that because I am running off the same HDD it will not let me do that.
[13:52] <nickname_> just call
[13:53] <luigi> bakarakadaka: That was disabled by default.
[13:53] <bastidrazor> bakarakadaka: alt sysrq k
[13:53] <misaq> misaq
[13:53] <luigi> Wait, really?
[13:53] <schnuffle> JoshR: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2007/10/25/hide-partition-icons-from-your-ubuntu-desktop/
[13:53] <luigi> bastidrazor: I thought ctrl alt bkspc was disabled in Ubuntu now.
[13:53] <misaq> how can I enter a channel with my registered nick?
[13:53] <nickname_> just call, the channel
[13:53] <Myrtti> luigi: it is
[13:53] <luigi> misaq: /join #channel
[13:54] <bastidrazor> luigi: that key combo was, you can now use alt sysrq k to restart X.
[13:54] <luigi> Interesting. It's Ubuntu-specific though, yes?
[13:54] <misaq> like this? misaq: /join #c++
[13:54] <Myrtti> no
[13:54] <luigi> Myrtti: It's not working in my distro.
[13:54] <Myrtti> luigi ^
[13:54] <bastidrazor> ubottu: tell luigi about dontzap
[13:54] <misaq> misq: /join #c++
[13:54] <Myrtti> it should
[13:55] <Pici> !register > misaq
[13:55] <nickname_> its a general purpose operatig tiny system
[13:55] <luigi> Myrtti: Actually, it appears I can't hit my sysreq key on this keyboard in combination with other keys, so it's a hardware fault...
[13:55] <Pici> nickname_: Are you talking to someone in particular? Or just making random comments?
[13:55] <JoshR> Schnuffle that is only for the desktop that is not what I am talking about.
[13:55] <nickname_> sorry pici. im just answering
[13:56] <Pici> nickname_: Then please prefix your responses with the person's nick that you are talking to.
[13:57] <Myrtti> luigi: should work with the special keys given the kernel was compiled to support it
[13:58] <schnuffle> JoshR: Okay we're getting closer. The hide/inhide paramter from grub in the menu.lst might be what you want
[13:58] <luigi> Myrtti: It's a hardware issue with the keyboard itself, though. This is a netbook keyboard, and I need to press a "Fn" key to access SysRq. However, once a regular alphabet or numeric character is pressed, the "Fn" key no longer registers as pressed...
[13:59] <luigi> Most unfortunate.
[13:59] <JoshR> *facepalms*  Wouldn't that prevent me form getting into Windows 7 from the Grub menu and not affect it showing up in linux at all?
[13:59] <misaq> I cannot still enter that channel with my registered nick?
[13:59] <schnuffle> JoshR:  In grub2 the syntax is different
[13:59] <syrinx_priest> Hi all.  Anyone able to get their ubuntu machine to wake up at a certain time?
[13:59] <luigi> JoshR: You're trying to make the Windows 7 partition not appear at all in GNOME, right?
[13:59] <JoshR> Yes
[13:59] <bakarakadaka> luigi: im on a netbook too
[14:00] <luigi> syrinx_priest: Look for "Alarm Wake-up" in your bios.
[14:00] <JoshR> I'm on Ubuntu 11.04
[14:00] <pc> slt
[14:00] <pc> comment formater xunbutu &o
[14:00] <luigi> JoshR: Add an entry to the fstab to mount the windows partition nowhere.
[14:00] <syrinx_priest> luigi: yeah, tried that, no dice.  Oh well, thx anyway!
[14:00] <luigi> JoshR: That will prevent gnome from finding it.
[14:00] <Pici> !fr | pc
[14:00] <bastidrazor> luigi: then reenable ctrl alt backspace
[14:00] <luigi> syrinx_priest: Can you use wake-on-lan?
[14:00] <JoshR> Aparently not Luigi it still shows it but just doesn't mount it.
[14:00] <luigi> bastidrazor: Already did. :P
[14:01] <syrinx_priest> luigi: Doesn't work either.
[14:01] <schnuffle> JoshR: using grub1/2?
[14:01] <pc> je veu fprmater mon ordi en xp comment je fait ?
[14:01] <luigi> JoshR: Have you tried mounting it to /mnt/windows and looking for it in the gnome manager?
[14:01] <luigi> syrinx_priest: Really? WOL is pretty standard these days.
[14:01] <bakarakadaka> so is unity-2d supposed to be less demanding than the default one?
[14:02] <pc> comment je formate mon ordi ?
[14:02] <syrinx_priest> luigi: Heh, yup, really.  I'll keep messing with it tho... user error is always a possibility
[14:02] <luigi> pc: entrer #ubuntu-fr
[14:02] <JoshR> Never mind everyone, there is an inability to convey what I want.
[14:02] <JoshR> have a good day
[14:03] <luigi> JoshR: You too.
[14:03] <pc> perssone répond je veu  le remtre a xp
[14:03] <luigi> pc: /join #ubuntu-fr
[14:03] <MInner> Morning. There's a trouble. When I tried to install additional packages for LibreOffice there was no internet connection. So, I don't know why, but aptitude uninstalled the whole LibreOffice. So now when I put down "aptitude install libreoffice-writer" (cd-rom is in sourses.list) it tell to me "No matching version". What's wrong with it?
[14:03] <schnuffle> pc: ici c'est en anglais /join #ubuntu-fr pour causer en francais
[14:03] <luigi> pc: On ne parle pas le francais dans #ubuntu, oui.
[14:04] <lostvoices> schnuffle... thanks for the help buddy i habe unity running now :) turns out i had an old ati driver installed
[14:04] <schnuffle> lostvoices: fine :) your welcome
[14:04] <nickname_> magic keep the version of a program
[14:04] <nickname_> minner
[14:05] <NewUser> Hi, i want to install ubuntu to run alongside windows 7 on my laptop, could someone please talk me through exactly what to do?
[14:05] <bakarakadaka> what was joshr wanting?
[14:05] <luigi> NewUser: You need to first boot from a CD or USB drive into the Ubuntu installer.
[14:05] <luigi> NewUser: Do you have that set up?
[14:05] <qemubernd> hiwk, which settings should I choose so the VM get's it's own IP and is seen inside the network?
[14:05] <bastidrazor> NewUser: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows  tells it all
[14:05] <luigi> bakarakadaka: He wanted his Windows drives to not show up in Nautilus.
[14:06] <jenev> are the dev packages on the installation dvd?
[14:06] <nickname_> yes jenev
[14:06] <jenev> ok thanks
[14:06] <HACKKKK> luigi tu peu m'aider stp
[14:06] <Guest18581> what is Rails IRC server
[14:06] <NewUser> no i don't, really what i want to know is will i have to bother with creating a new partition in order to run it if i don't want to run ubuntu inside windows
[14:07] <nickname_> they came with a cd apart jenev
[14:07] <HACKKKK> luigi je veu remetre mon ordi sous xp comment je fait
[14:07] <bakarakadaka> NewUser: this one's got some handy tips if youre working in a win7 environment
[14:07] <bakarakadaka> NewUser: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/01/28/dual-booting-windows-7-and-ubuntu-10-10/
[14:07] <auronandace> !fr | HACKKKK
[14:07] <bakarakadaka> NewUser: or at least it helped me
[14:08] <luigi> HACKKKK: Et je ne parle pas francias bonne.
[14:08] <NewUser> Ok, thanks a lot guys, you're really helpful
[14:08] <p3rsist> Anyone tried Sparkleshare?
[14:09] <p0rtInna382> p3rsist: Yes
[14:09] <nickname_> persist i supose no many people know that
[14:09] <HACKKKK> luigi how to format his computer and put it back in xp
[14:09] <HACKKKK> how to format his computer and put it back in xp
[14:10] <BluesKaj> HACKKKK, as kin #windows
[14:10] <luigi> HACKKKK: He needs to reinstall his old windows boot manager using the "EasyBCD" program in XP, then he can simply delete his Ubuntu partition.
[14:10] <nickname_> few people knows that
[14:11] <schnuffle> can somebody get rid of nickname_
[14:11] <nickname_> some people like jenev couldnt listen
[14:12] <Myrtti> nickname_: hi
[14:12] <krrish> hi
[14:12] <Moflux88> hi
[14:12] <krrish> hi myrtti
[14:12] <DeadmanIncJS> hey guys, im dual booting Win7 and Ubuntu 11.04.  It loads Win7 just fine, but when I select Ubuntu it just sits there on a black screen.  no HDD movement.  any ideas?
[14:13] <Moflux88> DeadmanIncJS: you have to try and reinstall GRUB
[14:14] <DeadmanIncJS> how do i go about doing that?
[14:14] <Soci3ty> it isnt grub
[14:14] <Soci3ty> if windows 7 loads fine
[14:14] <DeadmanIncJS> yeah, i have choices when it boots up
[14:15] <Soci3ty> DeadmanIncJS: restart to grub
[14:15] <DeadmanIncJS> but for some reason ubuntu wont boot anymore :/
[14:15] <Soci3ty> then edit the commands for ubuntu
[14:15] <DeadmanIncJS> ok, hang on
[14:15] <Moflux88> DeadmanIncJS: yes, you have choices, but it doesnt mean that it OK
[14:15] <DeadmanIncJS> let me get the laptop down here
[14:15] <Soci3ty> add nomodeset to the end
[14:16] <Soci3ty> and change splash to nosplash
[14:16] <Soci3ty> that fixed an error i had on my hp laptop
[14:16] <Moflux88> DeadmanIncJS: you can also try update grub by running the recovery mode
[14:16] <bilel> slt
[14:16] <DeadmanIncJS> ok Soci3ty, i hit "E" @grub
[14:17] <bilel> where am i ??pleaze
[14:17] <Soci3ty> DeadmanIncJS: remove the line that says splash
[14:17] <bastidrazor> bilel: you've made it to heaven. rejoice
[14:17] <Soci3ty> or something of the sort
[14:17] <Soci3ty> and add nomodeset and nosplash
[14:18] <Soci3ty> that'll fix most graphic related issues
[14:18] <DeadmanIncJS> the whole line?  "linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38......"
[14:18] <Soci3ty> scroll through it
[14:18] <bilel> so who are you?
[14:18] <Soci3ty> look for splash
[14:18] <taleon> hi
[14:18] <DeadmanIncJS> is says "quiet splash"
[14:19] <Soci3ty> remove it and add nosplash
[14:19] <Soci3ty> then scroll to the end of the line
[14:19] <Soci3ty> and add nomodeset
[14:19] <DeadmanIncJS> ok "no splash vt.handoff=7"
[14:19] <DeadmanIncJS> alright
[14:20] <Soci3ty> then press the command sequenc that says boot these commands
[14:20] <p3rsist> p0rtInna382, how is it?
[14:21] <DeadmanIncJS> it says unknown command "nomodset"
[14:21] <DeadmanIncJS> weird, it booted to Ubuntu lol
[14:21] <Soci3ty> you mistyped
[14:21] <Soci3ty> not nomodset
[14:21] <hiwk> qemubernd: somewhere in the VM's network settings, http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch06.html#networkingmodes
[14:21] <Soci3ty> nomodeset
[14:21] <DeadmanIncJS> shit
[14:21] <DeadmanIncJS> oh crap, i mistyped on here
[14:21] <hiwk> qemubernd: "bridged" is probably what you want
[14:22] <DeadmanIncJS> i did type it right on the line
[14:22] <Soci3ty> hmm
[14:22] <Soci3ty> but it booted?
[14:22] <Soci3ty> with just nosplash
[14:22] <DeadmanIncJS> yeah
[14:22] <qemubernd> hiwk, thx, found out myself. yes, the bridging is very simple and intuitive. thx for your help, qemu will be kicked out of my system soom. :D is there an easy way to set up the start of vm when the profile is loaded?
[14:22] <Soci3ty> ok
[14:23] <HACKKKK> envoi le serv  français
[14:23] <Soci3ty> DeadmanIncJS: it recommend editing /boot/grub.cfg
[14:23] <HACKKKK> !sms kad
[14:23] <Soci3ty> and adding it to the line there
[14:23] <DeadmanIncJS> hang on
[14:23] <hiwk> qemubernd: I don't get what you ask. what profile?
[14:23] <Soci3ty> so youdont have to edit it everytime you wanna boot
[14:23] <Soci3ty> lol
[14:24] <qemubernd> hiwk, the local profile on server. Though it would be better if the vm would be loaded at startup of the server.
[14:25] <DeadmanIncJS> Soci3ty, can i just PM u?
[14:25] <DeadmanIncJS> make my life easier :)
[14:25] <Soci3ty> sure
[14:25] <DeadmanIncJS> k
[14:26] <debi_lector> debian have a lot of helps, but it needs a fast computer
[14:26] <Myrtti> debi_lector: hi
[14:26] <luigi> Debian doesn't need a faster computer than Ubuntu...
[14:26] <mosno> luigi, hi :)
[14:27] <Moflux88> DeadmanIncJS: did it worked?
[14:27] <luigi> mosno: Need some help?
[14:27] <mosno> luigi, no, just lurking...
[14:27] <DeadmanIncJS> Moflux88: yes, but he's having me edit grub so i don't have to keep doing this :)
[14:27] <hiwk> qemubernd: googled and found http://vboxtool.sourceforge.net/ , haven't tried that tho
[14:29] <Moflux88> DeadmanIncJS: ok, glad to hear that...i had experienced the exact same thing before...fixed it using a diffrent approach..
[14:29] <jon_high9000> is there a way to setup a crontab to clear firefox cache?
[14:30] <luigi> jon_high9000: Yes. If I'm not mistaken, FF puts the cache in a directory in your home dir. Just find that dir with some research, and clear its contents periodically with cron.
[14:30] <p0rtInna382> jon_high9000: You could try deleting the appropriate files from your firefox folder with your profile, provided Firefox isn't open and locking them to its process
[14:30] <rimswald> can someone tell me why I'm not able to access /etc/apt/sources.list?  Its says "Not a directory" even though i can see it with ls command
[14:30] <bastidrazor> Soci3ty: making changes to /boot/grub.cfg is a bad idea and will be overwritten when grub updates or kernel updates happen
[14:31] <Onlyodin> jon_high9000, Doesn't Firefox have an option not to keep cache data?
[14:31] <Soci3ty> bastidrazor: it works though
[14:31] <Soci3ty> ;)
[14:31] <m_fulder> hey could someone help me with my postfix error? Im getting this error while trying AUTH via telnet: 535 5.7.8 Error: authentication failed: generic failure .. and I have no idea how I could solve this :O
[14:31] <bastidrazor> Soci3ty: it is the wrong way to go and will not work once grub updates itself in the near future.
[14:31] <schnuffle> rimswald: it's /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[14:32] <rimswald> thank you schnuffle
[14:32] <Pici> rimswald: /etc/apt/sources.list is a file. /etc/apt/sources.list.d is a directory.
[14:33] <_fury> HI i get that error : "X Error of failed request:  BadWindow " when trying to run glxgears. ~3hours ago it worked.... Can someone help me?
[14:33] <_fury> restarting X didnt help
[14:33] <jon_high9000> Onlyodin: there is a option to clear cache but i am trying to setup cron to do that. :)
[14:34] <LABcrab> Hello everyone!
[14:34] <Jagajugue> sup!
[14:35] <schnuffle> jon_high9000: I would use lsof to check if profile is open, if not delete the cache files
[14:35] <LABcrab> How do i add the ISO to the GRUB boot list?
[14:35] <Jagajugue> a tah!
[14:35] <Jagajugue> esperta vc!
[14:35] <schnuffle> LABcrab: normally you're able to set it in the PC bios
[14:35] <Jagajugue> ^^
[14:36] <bastidrazor> Soci3ty: making changes in /etc/default/grub  is the proper method.
[14:36] <LABcrab> Well, i'd prefer to boot from USB, using GRUB.
[14:36] <LABcrab> This is an old PC.
[14:38] <schnuffle> LABcrab: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=992426
[14:40] <jon_high9000> luigi: thank you . :)
[14:40] <xukun> is't possible to bitstream  DOLBY TRUE-HD & DTS-HD MASTER audio? and which video card is advised?
[14:44] <paul_uk> whoppergator: I solved my display issues.  I went with Xubuntu and installed the 3d drivers which if I recall the option wasn't available under ubuntu.  I now have dual displays setup in their respective native resolutions :D
[14:45] <debi_lector> not all drivers are aviable
[14:47] <xukun> is't possible to bitstream  DOLBY TRUE-HD & DTS-HD MASTER audio? and which video card is advised?
[14:47] <xukun> anybody?
[14:48] <stowoda> hi
[14:49] <stowoda> if I press ~ I need to press the space key after that to see ~
[14:49] <Myrtti> stowoda: that's normal
[14:49] <stowoda> that happens only on my private pc
[14:50] <stowoda> at work (debian) it appears just after typing ~
[14:50] <herkupus> .oO(nodeadkeys)
[14:50] <stowoda> hmm
[14:50] <xukun> how is the hardware acceleration of the ati video cards now days? or is vdpau and nvidia still the way to go?
[14:50] <stowoda> nodeadkeys You say.. ?
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> xukun: imho - nvidia :)
[14:51] <LABcrab> schnuffle: The instructions are obsolete.
[14:51] <herkupus> stowoda: configure the keymap to use the "nodeadkeys" variant
[14:51] <stowoda> ok found it
[14:51] <schnuffle> LABcrab: using grub2?
[14:52] <stowoda> ths :)
[14:52] <LABcrab> schnuffle: Well, my Ubuntu is 9.10, but the PenDriveLinux doesn't exist anymore.  :(
[14:52] <stowoda> and it works :)
[14:52] <stowoda> thanks very much!
[14:52] <stowoda> that was quiet annoying
[14:52] <LABcrab> i want to upgrade to 11.04 with a fresh install.
[14:52] <xukun> ActionParsnip, thanks
[14:53] <debi_lector> there are five years of support
[14:53] <Myrtti> debi_lector: hi
[14:55] <schnuffle> LABcrab: I need to know if you're using grub1 or 2?
[14:55] <rethus> if i start my ubuntu desktop, i never see the grub menu... but cause the startup now fail after i installed ati catalyst driver, i neet to boot into rescue mode.
[14:55] <Guest40013> what is this
[14:55] <rethus> what can i do to show this grub menu?
[14:56] <jon_high9000> p0rtInna382: thank you . :)
[14:56] <cmrodican> hi i have a question...  i just got a new notebook w windows 7 on it and duall booted it with ubuntu lucid, which is the os i am most used to...  does anyone know what is the best terminal emulator out there for windows that has access ot the whole filesysten the way xterm and gnome terminal do>
[14:56] <Onlyodin> rethus, at what point does your boot fail? Can you use Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get a login prompt?
[14:56] <rethus> complete freeze ofdesktop
[14:56] <dc5ala> rethus, you can try putting a screen resolution for grub in its config
[14:57] <rethus> it starts up, shows the root-login... if i'm be very fast, i can login... but than i see some startmessages (which are normaly also disapear before root-login promt) and system freeze
[14:57] <SuNotisima> how can i configure my US-Dvorak keyboard to send ä/ö/ü when pressing Alt Gr + a/o/u
[14:57] <rethus> i don't can type anything in groob... like i said... no startup
[14:57] <rethus> so i need rescuemode for grup.
[14:58] <dc5ala> rethus, had that on one machine where the display could not handle the resolution/frequencies somehow grub chose
[14:58] <rethus> sometimes if system not shutdown cleanly i see the grub-menu
[14:58] <rethus> but can i garant that the grub is show at next startup?
[14:58] <debi_lector> somtimes i see code that i dont have to see
[14:59] <Onlyodin> rethus, I had a similar problem the other day, ATI proprietary driver didn't work as planned, I used Ctrl-Alt-F1 to bring up a login prompt, then ran jockey-text -d xorg:fglrx as root.
[14:59] <rethus> Thanks for this hint, but didn't work for me. System freeze completly if i start in normal mode
[14:59] <SuNotisima> how can i configure my US-Dvorak keyboard to send ä/ö/ü when pressing Alt Gr + a/o/u
[14:59] <rethus> if i'm very very fast, i can login as root... than freeze again
[15:00] <schnuffle> rethus: to see the messages, change GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="......"  to have nosplash in /etc/default/grub
[15:00] <rethus> no chance to enter something else
[15:00] <Onlyodin> Possibly try booting to Init/Runlevel 1 (single user mode)
[15:00] <rethus> Onlyodin: how... i never see grub-screen booting up like on normal boot
[15:00] <LABcrab> schnuffle: Whatever comes with 9.10
[15:00] <rethus> like i said... only if system shutdown unclean... the grub-menu appear
[15:01] <rethus> and exactly this menu i need now
[15:01] <schnuffle> LABcrab: sudo dpkg -l | grep grub and tell me the version
[15:01] <rethus> to start resue-mode
[15:01] <rethus> is there a shortcut on pc boottime to show grub
[15:02] <IdleOne> rethus: hold the SHIFT key while booting and that will show grub menu
[15:02] <schnuffle> rethus: should be the escape key
[15:02] <genii-around> rethus: depending on grub version either left-shift or esc
[15:02] <Conanbatt> Hey. Since yesterday i wasnt able to boot my ubuntu installed with wubi. everytime it booted i get the grub console, and i dont know where to go from there. I have a USB stick and im currently on ubuntu loaded like so
[15:02] <rethus> great, thats is what i searched for
[15:02] <rethus> i try it
[15:02] <Conanbatt> i really want to see how to get back the previous configuration as well as the files.
[15:02] <rethus> Onlyodin: other question: does Catalyst 11.8 works for you, or is this broken for now...  i only see a howto for ubuntu for 11.7
[15:03] <rethus> but 11.8 braks my system completly
[15:03]  * genii-around ponders 11.8
[15:05] <home> window
[15:05] <Onlyodin> rethus, I'm not using the proprietary drivers at present.
[15:05] <albo> Hi Folks.  Trying to get intel vid driver rolling on ubuntu server 11.04 with xorg.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Mavericki8xxStatus indicates that i just have to modify xorg.conf.  I did so, but not sure how to check that it's actually using the intel driver.   Any idea how I can check this?  thanks!
[15:06] <LABcrab> schnuffle: One is 0.97-29ubuntu59 and the other is 1.97~beta4-1ubuntu4.1
[15:06] <DeadmanIncJS> who wants to help me port fwd setup so somebody can login my computer from their place
[15:07] <SuNotisima> how can i use xmodmap to configure my US-Dvorak keyboard to send ä/ö/ü when pressing Alt Gr + a/o/u
[15:07] <dc5ala> albo, you can check Xorgs log file at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> albo: why do you need the intel driver running on a server? Server is text only
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> DeadmanIncJS: grab your router manual, it will tell you
[15:09] <schnuffle> LABcrab: do you have a flopyy drive?
[15:09] <LABcrab> schnuffle: Yes, but booting from floppy and CD is problematic.
[15:09] <schnuffle> LABcrab: use plop on floppy to boot usb: http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/445010:weekend-project-use-the-plop-boot-manager-to-boot-older-computers-from-usb
[15:10] <jpmh> I have a system that when it runs apt-get update dpkg fails with the message error were encountered when proessing linux-image-2.6.32-32-generic and other kernels - how do I clear this
[15:10] <Conanbatt> can someone help me? ubuntu just stopped completely from working. It doesnt boot and i  have lost access to all my work -.-
[15:10] <schnuffle> jpmh: open terminal check with df -h if /boot is full
[15:10] <Conanbatt> i dont know how to recover all i had, i will lose days of work
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> jpmh: can you pastebin the output of:  lsb_release -a; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:11] <luigi> jpmh: Don't use apt-get, try using aptitude to auto-remove packages. Provided you have aptitude installed.
[15:11] <albo> @ActionParship: want to run mostly as a server, and want to use xbmc.  no need for full blown ubuntu desktop, or at least just once in a while.
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> Conanbatt: why don't you have a backup?
[15:11] <albo> I installed Xorg
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> albo: so its a desktop OS then
[15:11] <Conanbatt> because its not a solution to the problem
[15:11] <schnuffle> Conanbatt: get a USB key with a live system and try to recover your work
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> Conanbatt: I know, it's just a side question
[15:12] <dc5ala> Conanbatt, you can boot from the live cd and copy your data to somewhere else, e.g. flash drive
[15:12] <Conanbatt> i am right now booted from a USB . But its absolutely empty, how would i see my previous ubuntu files?
[15:12] <BluesKaj> albo, are you going to install xbmc stand alone ?
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> albo: can you give the output of: sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a     use a pastebin to hold the text
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> Conanbatt: if you run:  sudo fdisk -l   do you see partitions
[15:13] <safire> are there any supported 32bit JRE's on ubunu 64?
[15:14] <albo> @BluesKaj - that's the plan.  But just figuring it all out now.  Have xorg installed, but when running xbmc-standalone from command prompt, doesn't find the display.  I think i have to figure out how to put xbmc in startx or something.
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> safire: you may be able to use sun java 32bit if you install ia32-libs
[15:14] <Conanbatt> ActionParsnip, this is what i see http://pastebin.com/X4ypYD0c
[15:14] <jpmh> luigi: I have aptitude installed how do I do what you suggest
[15:15] <dc5ala> Conanbatt, do you see your hard drive in nautilus (file manager)?
[15:15] <luigi> jpmh: man aptitude
[15:15] <queso> How do I setup an apt source to be trusted?
[15:15] <Conanbatt> yes i see my only hard drive and have access to it. I can even see the ubuntu folder where i installed it (or where wubi did, i think)
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> Conanbatt: ok i'm guessing the 4Gb thing is what you are booting to, does the 250Gb drive have both Windows and Ubuntu on it?
[15:16] <Conanbatt> yes
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> Conanbatt: so you used wubi?
[15:16] <BluesKaj> albo, I tried the stand alone xbmc as a media server ..it should start in the run command , alt+f2
[15:16] <Conanbatt> yes
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> Conanbatt: oh boy
[15:16] <albo> @ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/VRHmJbnk
[15:17] <dc5ala> Conanbatt, check if you can find there a home directory inside there where you assume the installation
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> Conanbatt: ok you will need to mount the NTFS, then navigate to the folder with the wubi file then mount that
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> albo: yeah those intel chips stink, you will need an xorg.conf as you say
[15:17] <ianliu> I'm trying to install ubuntu in my pendrive without success. How can I install it from a debian distro?
[15:18] <schnuffle> Conanbatt: when you have mounted the ntfs partition you need to mount the wubi image: sudo mount -o loop /media/WindowsXP/ubuntu/disks/root.disk /media/root.disk
[15:18] <LABcrab> schnuffle: Lots of files!
[15:18] <schnuffle> LABcrab: ?
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> albo: may help http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/hardware-en-drivers/no-devices-detected-82852855gm-intel-graphics-device-(rev-02)/?imode
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> Conanbatt: why didn't you back up this "important" work at any point?
[15:19] <LABcrab> schnuffle: Clicked on the tools by accident.
[15:19] <Conanbatt> i use everything online, i actually havent lost much work as much as my whole environment and configurations
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> albo: also: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/detecting-3d-acceleration-support-for-graphic-device-370741/     use the intel driver in the file, not i810
[15:20] <schnuffle> ianliu: I use multisystem as unetbootin wasn't woking reliably: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[15:20] <Conanbatt> i could install ubuntu from scratch but i want to know why it stopped working at all without notice
[15:20] <Conanbatt> because im going to lose a few days remembering all the things i had installed
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> albo: also: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes
[15:20] <schnuffle> Conanbatt: That's certainly due to an update which isn't handled correclty by the wubi env
[15:21] <Conanbatt> so its impossible to recover that installation?
[15:21] <Conanbatt> i must salvage and install outside windows?
[15:21] <schnuffle> Conanbatt: Wubi is only for testing purposes. Don't rely on it. There are often people showing up having wubi problems
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> Conanbatt: just a lot of work, not impossible. In Ubuntu you can mount the image and you may be able to get the data
[15:22] <schnuffle> Conanbatt: Of course haven'T you seen my post. 1. Boot into some live system, 2. Mount the NTFS partition to lets say /media/win, 3. Mount the wubi disk image somewhere else and then you can access your files
[15:23] <hiwk> in my unity bar, I want to change the startup options for a program. I guessed that right-clicking on it would give me some options, but no
[15:23] <hiwk> how do I do that?
[15:23] <invasorzim> Help, wireless doesnt work in fresh installed natty onto dell laptop
[15:23] <schnuffle> invasorzim: model?
[15:23] <albo> @ActionParsnip & @dc5ala: from /var/log/Xorg.0.log, seems like intel driver is getting loaded?  http://pastebin.com/v44zFxpq
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> hiwk: the only way I've seen is to either edit he files in /usr/share/applications   or possibly use alacarte
[15:24] <invasorzim> schnuffle: inspiron n4010
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> albo: sure but not at the right res, probably due to your monitor not reporting EDID
[15:24] <invasorzim> schnuffle: 1 time out of 20 powerups it works
[15:26] <schnuffle> invasorzim: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1558791
[15:26] <LABcrab> schnuffle: I/O error with the floppy.
[15:26] <schnuffle> invasorzim: http://computerandu.wordpress.com/2011/05/04/how-to-solve-no-wireless-networks-in-ubuntu-11-04/
[15:27] <edbian> invasorzim: what chipset do you have?  (I think I might be able to save your time)
[15:27] <LAcan> i am trying to cat a bunch of textfiles some of which have accents, but the ouput is always "?" for non-english characters... how can i fix it? Do I need to update my locale and will this change my keyboard layout or anything?
[15:27] <Xaiphan> Hey guy's, is it ok to ask Ubuntu related questions here or should i pop over to the beginner chat?
[15:28] <invasorzim> edbian: does this answer? 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[15:28] <valthyx> Xaiphan, go on
[15:28] <edbian> invasorzim: Yes it does.
[15:28] <edbian> invasorzim: your chipset is bcm4313
[15:28] <LABcrab> LAcan: The CAT will eat them all and the mice will run away!
[15:28] <invasorzim> edbian: ok...
[15:28] <schnuffle> LABcrab: oh man your're really stucked with a rotten peace of a PC :). Hmmm. Lets recapitulate. You have an old PC running 9.10. You want to install 11.04 fresh, you have a USB key but booting from USB is not available from BIOS. IOs that right
[15:29] <edbian> invasorzim: Hang on I have to research a second
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> !afk > klebers[afk]
[15:29] <LABcrab> schnuffle: Can't i just add the ISO in the GRUB?
[15:29] <LABcrab> schnuffle: Or add USB in GRUB?
[15:29] <Xaiphan> I installed Ubuntu 11.04 to a 8GB Flash drive, i used 4GB(the max) for reserved space? so that i could have room to treat it like a side OS, well after updates and nothing else i am getting "Not enough Space" warnings
[15:30] <invasorzim> edbian: the module used is bcmwl, uses dkms and all... and brightness control doesnt work either, but thats another issue
[15:30] <edbian> invasorzim: install the first three packages from here:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=bcm4313&searchon=all&suite=natty&section=all
[15:30] <RA_drc> hello, it seems like my external drive is mounted with the "noexec" mount option.  how can i change this?
[15:30] <edbian> invasorzim: Do you already have them installed?
[15:30] <invasorzim> lemme see
[15:31] <edbian> invasorzim: thanks for telling me about the module :)
[15:31] <valthyx> Xaiphan, use larger than 4GB, you may want 6GB
[15:31] <Xaiphan> There wasn't an option to go larger than 4028MB
[15:31] <LABcrab> schnuffle: It MUST be done!  It can't be impossible!  Don't give up!
[15:31] <Hoyt> hi , what's the best tool for converting audio files ? GUI required
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> RA_drc: look into remount command
[15:32] <invasorzim> edbian: sta-common and sta-source arent
[15:32] <edbian> invasorzim: so install them all
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> Hoyt: mencoder does it easily in cli
[15:32] <invasorzim> ok
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> Hoyt: what are you converting from - to
[15:32] <valthyx> Xaiphan, try typing instead of choosing
[15:32] <dc5ala> Xaiphan, maybe you need to clean package cache (/var/cache/apt/archives/) via sudo apt-get clean
[15:32] <LABcrab> schnuffle: Still there?
[15:33] <Xaiphan> let me give the clean-up a try
[15:33] <spo0kz> LABcrab, Im also interest to her ehis response on that issue
[15:33] <dc5ala> Xaiphan, but have a look how much space you have left after cleaning that, guess not much then :P
[15:33] <invasorzim> edbian: done... do i need to reboot?
[15:33] <Hoyt> ActionParsnip: sometimes splitting ape+cue format , maybe some flac here , and AAC format is the objective
[15:33] <edbian> invasorzim: you can, or sudo modprobe wl
[15:33] <LABcrab> spo0kz: Really?
[15:33] <invasorzim> ok
[15:33] <valthyx> Xaiphan, cleaning is just temporary, you might really want a bigger space for future use
[15:33] <Xaiphan> Yeah but after updates i don't see how it had used 4GBs, i'll try it though
[15:33] <spo0kz> LABcrab, yes i have a friend with the exact same problem
[15:33] <LAcan> i am trying to cat a bunch of textfiles some of which have accents, but the ouput is always "?" for non-english characters... how can i fix it? Do I need to update my locale and will this change my keyboard layout or anything?
[15:33] <Conanbatt> pero que goma
[15:34] <LABcrab> LAcan: get a dog instead.
[15:34] <Xaiphan> I'm really new to the Linux interface though, what might i be able to use to see my partition on the USB drive?
[15:34] <LABcrab> !es > Conanbatt
[15:34] <invasorzim> edbian: same problem still (iwlist scan give me No scan results)
[15:34] <edbian> invasorzim: what modules are listed now?  (perhaps there is some other module we need to modprobe) I think a restart will know better than I
[15:34] <invasorzim> ok let me restart
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> Hoyt: possibly http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=600195
[15:35] <edbian> InvalidHandle: sure
[15:36] <schnuffle> LABcrab: the only thing I think will work is Plop bootmanager. HAve you tired it. was the floppy maybe corrupt?
[15:36] <Hoyt> LAcan: perhaps font problem / $LANG variable problem (e.g set to C instead of en_US , i met that once , which caused everything non-unicode in xfce4-terminal diaplayed as a '?')
[15:36] <LABcrab> schnuffle: Oh let,s get another floppy.
[15:36] <_UsUrPeR_> can someone point me towards docs on changing the default session manager in 11.04 natty plz?
[15:36] <spo0kz> LABcrab, Floppy was not the response i was hoping for hehe
[15:37] <IdleOne> !classic | _UsUrPeR_
[15:37] <Hoyt> i think he means 'gdm'
[15:37] <LAcan> Hoyt, yes I updated my locale to en_US.ISO-8859-1 and now every accent comes after the letter, ie (e'viter)
[15:37] <_UsUrPeR_> IdleOne: This is on a multi-user LTSP environment. What changes what "default" is set to? is there a file?
[15:37] <albo> @ActionParsnip: i didn't paste the whole log.  it goes through a resolution search.  http://pastebin.com/nLpnR01D
[15:37] <Xaiphan> I might just have to do a complete re-install, i am getting all kinds of error's, even when i tried to install pidgin, but it still works for some reason, (this will be the 4th time trying to rectify this)
[15:38] <Galvatron> Xaiphan: 4GB is not enough for the system and home folder. Ubuntu itself + software can take over 3GB, not counting the cache for downloaded packages. To get rid of those packages, you can use Ubuntu Tweak. You shoul also remove the unused kernels. As for OS + /home you should use the entire 8GB space, to have some reservoir for caching packages etc.
[15:38] <Xaiphan> apt-get clean did nothing by the way
[15:38] <IdleOne> _UsUrPeR_: you got me. sorry I have no clue
[15:38] <_UsUrPeR_> ok, well thanks
[15:39] <Xaiphan> Galvatron - i used a utility that did the OS install/partition automaticlly
[15:39] <LABcrab> spo0kz: Floppies are awesome!  Another I/O error!  Yay!
[15:39] <LABcrab> schnuffle: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy
[15:39] <schnuffle> LABcrab: try formating the flopyy before and run a check then
[15:40] <LABcrab> schnuffle: How?
[15:40] <Xaiphan> This is what i used http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[15:40] <schnuffle> LABcrab: sudo mkfs.vat /dev/fd0
[15:40] <schnuffle> oops
[15:40] <schnuffle> LABcrab: sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/fd0
[15:40] <LABcrab> schnuffle: Why?
[15:40] <Xaiphan> as you see there it limits you to 4089MB as a Persistent file size
[15:41] <schnuffle> LABcrab: because sometimes by reformatting old floppies I was able to use them
[15:41] <schnuffle> again
[15:41] <LABcrab> schnuffle: Who invented floppies?
[15:41] <jianfei> soft cocks
[15:42] <valthyx> Xaiphan, do you mean during installation?
[15:42] <schnuffle> LABcrab: somebody that wanted to make sure you loose all your data :)
[15:42] <LABcrab> Unable to get diskette geometry.  schnuffle
[15:42] <Xaiphan> Valthyx yea, when installing it to the USB stick, am i on the same page as you?
[15:43] <schnuffle> LABcrab:  sudo mformat -f 1440 A: you need the mtools installed
[15:43] <schnuffle> LABcrab: or is it even 5.25"
[15:43] <jianfei> do zip disks still exist?
[15:43] <valthyx> Xaiphan, i misunderstood you, i thought you were making it a liveusb
[15:43] <debi_lector> and jazz jianfei
[15:43] <jianfei> yeh
[15:44] <jianfei> rofl
[15:44] <spo0kz> LABcrab: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB
[15:44] <jianfei> are they still around sinc usb keys?
[15:44] <Xaiphan> valthyx Oh sorry, i thought "live" was anything not on a HDD
[15:44] <oCean> jianfei: this channel is for ubuntu specific support
[15:44] <jianfei> oCean, thanks for the heads up
[15:45] <invasorzim> edbian: so, it worked after 1st reboot... rebooted again to make sure, after a disk check on boot the system hung, so hard resetted it... and wireless isnt working again (it usually occasionally works for no apparent reason)
[15:45] <Hoyt> LAcan: are you talking about a french word , namely éviter ? might be related to fonts or document encodings , checkout my app for solving this: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=129085 , it may help you
[15:45] <invasorzim> edbian: most of the time it doesnt
[15:45] <dc5ala> Xaiphan, persistent file size for storing changes sounds confusing, more like reserved space as separate partition?
[15:46] <edbian> invasorzim: What modules are listed in the output of sudo lscpi -k   (sometimes if there is more than one it will randomly choose one at boot time)
[15:46] <invasorzim> edbian: atl1c...
[15:46] <invasorzim> wait
[15:46] <invasorzim> read the wrong one
[15:46] <edbian> invasorzim: I don't know what that module is...
[15:46] <invasorzim> sorry
[15:46] <edbian> invasorzim: ha :)
[15:46] <invasorzim> edbian: wl, brcm80211
[15:47] <dc5ala> Xaiphan, as this is optional i guess it's just that, you have 8gig and the option says keep 4g for something else?
[15:47] <edbian> invasorzim: Is that all that's listed in the modules listed?  (what driver is listed?)
[15:47] <debi_lector> edbian its hard to be a system administrator
[15:47] <edbian> debi_lector: ha :)
[15:47] <Polah> Good afternoon
[15:47] <invasorzim> edbian: driver: wl
[15:47] <Xaiphan> I'm looking at my Disk Usage Analyzer and here is what i see "Total filesystem capacity 100% (8.1GB) || Total filesystem usage 65.8% (5.3GB) - Yes the "Persistent file size" from my limited understanding is space reserved for it to save changes and programs as if it were installed, but it is still technically a Live boot, it just saves changes.
[15:48] <invasorzim> edbian: yes thats wll
[15:48] <invasorzim> edbian: all
[15:48] <c0mrade_> .
[15:48] <edbian> invasorzim: so right now wl is being used (supposedly) wifi isn't working right now?
[15:48] <invasorzim> no it isnt
[15:48] <c0mrade_> Hello everyone.
[15:48] <edbian> invasorzim: try to modprobe the other one in and see if that switches them and if it fixes it
[15:48] <invasorzim> edbian: iwlist scan outputs no scan results
[15:48] <invasorzim> edbian: sometimes it lists invalid argument
[15:49] <c0mrade_> I got some fresh stuff.
[15:49] <invasorzim> edbian: modprobe the other one, but first rmmod wl?
[15:49] <edbian> invasorzim: if it says invalid argument you probably made a typo
[15:49] <edbian> invasorzim: you don't have to rmmod wl (it wouldn't hurt anything)  I use modprobe -r    not sure if there's a difference
[15:49] <invasorzim> edbian: no no, i'm just repeating the last command
[15:49] <invasorzim> edbian: eth1      Failed to read scan data : Invalid argument
[15:49] <edbian> invasorzim: is eth1 your wifi or do you have a wlan0 ?
[15:50] <invasorzim> edbian: eth1 is my wifi, no wlan0
[15:50] <ubuntu_> witam
[15:50] <edbian> invasorzim: weird, modprobe in bcrm80211
[15:50] <c0mrade_> Are you trying to hack some Wireless WiFi Access Points around you? That's illegal. Cracking WEP/WPA keys with BackTrack...
[15:50] <invasorzim> edbian: well rmmoded and modprobed brcm80211
[15:51] <edbian> invasorzim: k...
[15:51] <invasorzim> edbian: now its wlan0 instead, but still same issue
[15:51] <edbian> invasorzim: no scan results?
[15:51] <dc5ala> Xaiphan, hmm so you have enough space there? what does df -h say?
[15:51] <invasorzim> edbian: yep
[15:51] <edbian> invasorzim: can you pastebin the output of dmesg  ?
[15:51] <invasorzim> edbian: ok
[15:51] <lynnx> l
[15:51] <LABcrab> spo0kz & schnuffle: Error 22: No such partition
[15:51] <Halabund> Hi!  I'm having several problems with high CPU usage (compared to Windows).  The first problem is that CPU usage is always > 0, and battery life is low.  It's between 10-20% now as I'm typing here.  How can I diagnose the problem?  gnome-system-monitor itself uses ridiculously much cpu time
[15:52] <edbian> invasorzim: After then, while I read it, I suggest you reboot and reboot until wifi is up.  Then look at the output of lspci -k to get a clue as to what driver we want and so-on
[15:52] <invasorzim> edbian: whats that easy command to autopastebin?
[15:52] <edbian> invasorzim: pastebinit    ?
[15:52] <invasorzim> yes hehe
[15:52] <edbian> invasorzim: I don't use it
[15:52] <Polah> Halabund: Use top, it'll show you CPU/memory usage for running processes
[15:52] <SIFTU> Halabund: try htop
[15:52] <invasorzim> edbian: hmmm
[15:52] <edbian> invasorzim: :)
[15:52] <c0mrade_> Is there life after death?
[15:52] <invasorzim> edbian: oh dmesg is giving cool stuff
[15:53] <Xaiphan> dc5ala - it breaks it down further, /dev/loop0 size is 665M, and 100%, i have alto of info here if you wanted soemthing specific
[15:53] <invasorzim> edbian: [  617.966715] wl0: fifo 0: descriptor error
[15:53] <lynnx> sdf
[15:53] <invasorzim> edbian: [  617.966719] wl0: fatal error, reinitializing
[15:53] <oCean> c0mrade_: please stay on topic
[15:53] <spo0kz> LABcrab, did you catch that link ?   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB
[15:53] <edbian> invasorzim: hahah, like a robot.  fatal error.  Can I see the entire dmesg for context?  paste.ubuntu.com
[15:54] <LABcrab> spo0kz: Yeah.
[15:54] <c0mrade_> Okay.
[15:54] <dc5ala> Xaiphan, you can put that in http://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:54] <invasorzim> edbian: ok... the dmesg u'll see has me changing from wl to brcm80211 ok? just a reminder
[15:54] <c0mrade_> How to turn on a pc?
[15:54] <spo0kz> LABcrab, cool, looks like it's gonna help my end
[15:54] <edbian> invasorzim: that is, dmesg has been after all these modprobes   ?   (that's what I want)
[15:54] <edbian> c0mrade_: press the power button
[15:55] <c0mrade_> I always go to internet cafes, but I never had an idea of how to power on the PC.
[15:55] <spo0kz> LABcrab, I mean i havn't tried but the information provided looks plentiful
[15:55] <oCean> c0mrade_: please stop the silly questions
[15:55] <invasorzim> edbian: http://paste.ubuntu.com/673211/
[15:55] <RA_drc> ActionParsnip: what remount command?  it says it can't be found....
[15:55] <c0mrade_> oCean I am trying to get some help.
[15:55] <Xaiphan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/673212/http://paste.ubuntu.com/673212/
[15:55] <Xaiphan> like that?
[15:55] <edbian> invasorzim: reading...
[15:56] <invasorzim> edbian: rebooting until it works
[15:56] <edbian> invasorzim: how many times did you modprobe wl ?
[15:56] <MaximB> Hello
[15:56] <invasorzim> edbian: wl? none
[15:56] <c0mrade_> I won't ask any silly questions any more.
[15:56] <debi_lector> its better to check
[15:56] <edbian> invasorzim: I see...
[15:56] <genii-around> RA_drc: eg: something like  mount -o remount,ro /home        would re-mount /home with option of read-only
[15:56] <albo> @ActionParsnip: Xorg.0.log seems to indicate that the intel driver is being loaded, but in ubuntu desktop, glxinfo gives the following: http://pastebin.com/v6NhWNzh .  OpenGL is via Mesa, and when I run glxgears, it takes about 50% of my CPU.  So - is the intel driver not working?  Shouldn't the 3D rendering be taken over by the GPU?
[15:56] <invasorzim> edbian: i did repeat inumerous times the iwlist scan
[15:56] <edbian> invasorzim: ok
[15:57] <invasorzim> edbian: oh no but dmesg keeps getting bigger with the same errors
[15:57] <Halabund> Polah, SIFTU, is there any tool that can show which program used the most cpu in an extended period of time (say, over a minute)?  It's always a different process that jumps to the top, but usually it's compiz, Xorg or pulseaudio (I'm not listening to music, there's no sound!)
[15:57] <edbian> invasorzim: hahahah
[15:57] <invasorzim> edbian: so its not me after all
[15:57] <Xaiphan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/673212 Sorry it double pasted
[15:57] <edbian> invasorzim: ok
[15:57] <invasorzim> edbian: ok i'll try rebooting until it works
[15:57] <invasorzim> edbian: maybe it'll take a while
[15:57] <spo0kz> Halabund: man top
[15:57] <c0mrade_> What is the algorithm used in Ubuntu to encrypt user passwords?
[15:58] <Xeli> Hey Im trying to install natty on my computer but it keeps failing with the error: Error migrating of documents and settings failed. Does anyone know what might ve the cause?
[15:58] <debi_lector> ubuntu dont have diagnosis tools
[15:58] <SIFTU> Halabund: yeah you can set a delay
[15:58] <MaximB> I have removed Pulsaudio (long time ago), and I still get sound, but when I click on "system>pref>sounds I get Waiting for sound system to respond" , how can I fix it without installing the buggy pulse audio ?
[15:58] <edbian> invasorzim: at one point dmesg calls eth1 Broadcom BCM4727  have you noticed this?
[15:59] <SIFTU> Halabund: something like "htop -d 600"
[15:59] <duckxx> anyone know of a ubuntu terminal where i can just click on a file path and just goes right there?
[15:59] <RA_drc> genii-around: what about mounting an external drive with the exec option instead of the "noexec" mount option?
[15:59] <afeijo> damn, I cant fix my screens...
[15:59] <dc5ala> Xaiphan, so i guess that program you used just reserved 4GB on the stick, have a look at the partitions there
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> RA_drc: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-freebsd-remount-partition/
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> duckxx: there is a nautilus script to open terminal in current directory
[16:00] <Xaiphan> dc5ala Is that not what i want? i notice it's using 80%, and i did select for it to use the maximum partition space
[16:00] <Halabund> SITFU, but does that give values for the whole period between updates, or values valid only for the moment of update?
[16:00] <Halabund> SIFTU, but does that give values for the whole period between updates, or values valid only for the moment of update?
[16:00] <c0mrade_> Is there a built-in remote desktop program in Ubuntu?
[16:01] <Polah> c0mrade_, rdesktop
[16:01] <SIFTU> Halabund: I believe the average for the sample period
[16:01] <debi_lector> this is not my problem siftu
[16:01] <c0mrade_> You have access through a shell or it looks like the windows remote application?
[16:02] <dc5ala> Xaiphan, at the moment it looks like it's just unused space, have a look at it with gparted or fdisk/cfdisk
[16:02] <LABcrab> i KEEP getting No such partition errors!  Why is it so difficult!
[16:03] <LABcrab> i can't boot the ISO!
[16:03] <cpglsn> hi all
[16:03] <Tixus> hi. I need help. I have an old program, I don't have the source code and I can't find a library. I need the library liblowlevel_tray, but I can't find it in packages.debian.org or packages.ubuntu.com. Any idea? Btw, idk the real name of the package.
[16:04] <debi_lector> home isos are more unstables than comercial
[16:04] <Jagajugue> Are your Natty sometimes getting stuck when it changes to screensaver?
[16:04] <Jagajugue> Which one do you think it`s more stable, Natty or Maverick?
[16:04] <Xaiphan> dc5ala, it does not show up in Gparted
[16:04] <cpglsn> i'm trying to use kickstart but, as i can understand, the support for this package (help, tutorial, and so on) is very old ... can you suggest me one way to make ubuntu installation automatic ?
[16:04] <Xaiphan> i'm wrong, one moment
[16:05] <LABcrab> debi_lector: It's that the computer won,t boot from floppy, USB or CD.
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> Jagajugue: maverick, due to age imho
[16:06] <Jagajugue> Thanks ActionParsnip, that`s what thhe
[16:06] <Jagajugue> answer i was in mind
[16:06] <Jagajugue> =P
[16:06] <Xaiphan> dc5ala, ok it says Size: 7.47GiB | Used 4.70GiB (63%) | Unused 2.77 GiB (37%) - that is a tone of usage for only having installed recommended updates.
[16:06] <debi_lector> maybe its bloqued LABcrab
[16:06] <jccastiyo> .
[16:07] <schnuffle> LABcrab: sure even not from CDROM? HAve you really checked all the BIOS settings?
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> Jagajugue: maverick support dies before natty does and natty will get better with time
[16:08] <c0mrade_> How to count the number of words that start with the lette W and contain e in a text file?
[16:08] <Xaiphan> dc5ala, Is there a more proper way to install Ubuntu 11.04 to a USB and make it act as a HDD? That utility is causing mroe problems than anything, this is just disk usage, i haven't even started about the error's i keep recieveing
[16:09] <dc5ala> Xaiphan, Ubuntu also has it's own tool similar to the one you used, you may want to reduce the reserved space for storing changes then, 4G for system is not that much
[16:10] <popey> c0mrade_:  grep -i ^W foo.txt | grep -ic e$
[16:10] <mabi> hi folks
[16:10] <Jagajugue> I hope, because i really like the interface and it`s convenience
[16:10] <Jagajugue> really cool!
[16:11] <LABcrab> schnuffle: Yeah.
[16:11] <dc5ala> Xaiphan, with that size you need to clean up often, remove old kernels etc. or remove software you won't use
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> c0mrade_: is the input file a list of words, or is it written in sentences
[16:11] <penlat> I am having trouble writing to a smbd share with 777 permissions. Is this the same as using the samba package
[16:12] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: he is muted
[16:12] <schnuffle> c0mrade_: awk '/W[^ ]+e[^ ]+/ {print "$1"}' | wc -l
[16:12] <spo0kz> LABcrab, try this http://pastebin.com/ainuV1vU considering you have no cd drive you will have to mount the iso virtually, maybe you'll have to change a few options, but its definitely viable
[16:12] <Xaiphan> dc5ala is it possible for me to 1:1 with you? I would feel much better about sharing my uses and what i wish to occomplish using linux 1:1
[16:12] <h00k> !pm
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: i see
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: can I pm please dude ?
[16:13] <rumpe1> c0mrade_, tryp "egrep -o 'W[:alpha:]*e[:alpha:]*'  | wc -l
[16:13] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: you don't need my permission
[16:13] <LABcrab> The computer's being stupid since i deleted the sawp!
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: i always ask, its polite
[16:13] <spo0kz> LABcrab,  just recreate it with Gparted, been there done that Lol
[16:14] <Xaiphan> When i'm already singling out tot alk to someone i don't know why it would be rude, and my personal information will not help other people's problem
[16:14] <LABcrab> spo0kz: Startx saves the sad!
[16:14] <schnuffle> LABcrab: Another idea: what is working is bootstrapping ubuntu into a not used partition
[16:14] <LABcrab> Why did we ban 77.42.211.208?
[16:15] <debi_lector> doritodan until i see your face you dont exist
[16:15] <LABcrab> schnuffle: What's that?  It sounds like a seatbelt strap!
[16:15] <c0mrade_> .
[16:15] <c0mrade_> Why was I muted?
[16:15] <c0mrade_> Give me a good reason.
[16:16] <IdleOne> c0mrade_: because I felt you were being disruptive and asking silly non-ubuntu related questions.
[16:16] <IdleOne> Please follow the guidelines
[16:16] <LABcrab> schnuffle: What is a bootstrap and how do you set it up?
[16:16] <afeijo> I was resizing a ntfs partition, it failed and now it say that the volume size is bigger than the device size. It wont mount... can this be fixed?
[16:16] <genii-around> RA_drc: Any options you want to give to the mount command you put in comma-separated list like: -o option1,option2,option3,option4
[16:17]  * genii-around goes back to eating lunch
[16:17] <mabi> i've got a problem after a recent kernel update. after rebooting, i can't access my luks-encrypted root partition anymore. entering the (correct one, i copied it) password only prompts me to repeat.
[16:17] <mabi> last i saw was dpkg failing. i assume it was because my (extra) /boot partition was full.
[16:17] <schnuffle> LABcrab: you create a runable new installation into an empty partition and then you boot from it. In that way you have your old system as backup and the new system as well selectable through grub. Once you don't the old install you can delete it
[16:17] <debi_lector> dkpg are not debian
[16:18] <LABcrab> schnuffle: Where are the instructions, please?  Sounds like a good idea.
[16:18] <Hax> yo
[16:19] <LABcrab> !bootstrap
[16:19] <c0mrade_> How to change the directory in the shell window?
[16:19] <Polah> LABcrab: Just install on another partition as you would normally
[16:19] <c0mrade_> What is the command for it?
[16:19] <Polah> c0mrade_: cd
[16:21] <LABcrab> Polah: Yeah, but i can only boot the hard drive.  How do i install Ubuntu?
[16:22] <Polah> LABcrab: You can't boot from USB or CD?
[16:22] <LABcrab> Polah: No.
[16:22] <schnuffle> LABcrab: You need at least one free partition. NOw it depends on choices. You can write the install iso to that image or a base system I just looking for some instructions. How many free partitions do you have?
[16:22] <LABcrab> schnuffle: Not really a whole lot.
[16:23] <Polah> LABcrab: Why doesn't it boot? Have you tried manually selecting CD/USB from your boot list?
[16:23] <Ramses> hi
[16:23] <LABcrab> schnuffle: One 455MB partition.  Polah, yeah, doesn,t work.
[16:23] <Goku283> hi
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> c0mrade_: same as in windows
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> c0mrade_: cd foldername
[16:24] <Polah> LABcrab: And the same with CDs? Hmm, how old is your motherboard?
[16:24] <LABcrab> Polah: Compaq Presariio 5000 series.
[16:24] <schnuffle> LABcrab: for bootstrapping natty it should be something like: bash -x /usr/sbin/debootstrap --arch i386 natty /mnt/<your free partition  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[16:25] <Polah> LABcrab: Which one?
[16:25] <ObrienDave> LABcrab: I had same problem trying to install to USB hard drive. finally gave up and installed to main HD
[16:27] <LABcrab> i gotta go.  ttyl!
[16:29] <SMJ> Kontact is a good organization tool, but I need a cross-platform alternative, maybe web-based, maybe collaborative too. Any recommendations?
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> SMJ: something that syncs to google in some way?
[16:30] <SMJ> maybe
[16:30] <schnuffle> SMJ: I'm running citadel, sogo, scalix and would recommend sogo or citadel. Citadels web frontend is old fashioend sogos clean and nice with some ajax
[16:30] <RA_drc> hello, i'm trying to mount a hard drive via the command line in ubuntu, how do i find the name of my hard drive?
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> SMJ: http://blogs.gnome.org/rodrigo/2009/10/30/syncing-evolution-contacts-to-ubuntu-one/
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> RA_drc: you mount partitions dude
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> !mount | RA_drc
[16:31] <SMJ> okay, I'll check these
[16:33] <ubuntu_stuff> ubuntu have  a good idea protecting the kernel
[16:33] <ObrienDave> !mount
[16:33] <schnuffle> SMJ: I mention both because they are open source. alternatives are kolab2 ( the original KDE PIM server, GPL), zafara, shandler, ogo ( python implementation of openegroupware)
[16:33] <RA_drc> ActionParsnip: right, but when i looked at ls /dev/ i didn't know which sdX device to use
[16:33] <ObrienDave> !list
[16:34] <Jagajugue> RA_drc: i guess you can see the devices using ls /dev/sd* , but i dont know how to discover wich one is the one you`d like to mount
[16:34] <invasorzim> edbian: hello, sorry i went to eat... still after the first reboot wifi is working (i'm using it now here). same modules and driver on lspci -k
[16:35] <Jagajugue> RA_drc: but if you know which one is use: sudo moun /dev/sda3 /mnt/hard
[16:35] <ubuntu_stuff> its opensource but i must pay >O
[16:35] <edbian> invasorzim: pastebin dmesg again for me?
[16:35] <Jagajugue> RA_drc: but if you know which one is use: sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/hard
[16:35] <Jagajugue> for example
[16:36] <RA_drc> Jagajugue: right, but my trouble right now is i don't know which sd* to use for that command
[16:36] <Osmodivs> Hello. Is there a way to convert 100 .gif files to .jpg format in the Terminal? I do no want to convert them one by one
[16:36] <invasorzim> edbian: http://paste.ubuntu.com/673233/
[16:36] <ObrienDave> !alis
[16:37] <ubuntu_stuff> for beginning users cant use sudo jagajugue
[16:37] <schnuffle> RA_drc: sudo fdisk -l will list the partitions and its file system type as orientation
[16:37] <Jagajugue> ubuntu_stuff: sorry
[16:38] <hazamonzo> hey folks. dbus-daemon keeps eating 25% cpu (one core) what could be happening here? (k)ubuntu 11.04 x64
[16:38] <rumpe1> Osmodivs, sure... look for "convert", imagemagick and maybe "find"
[16:38] <edbian> invasorzim: reading...
[16:38] <Jagajugue> ubuntu_stuff: what about he use, "sudo fdisk -l" , it may help.
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: use mogrify
[16:39] <edbian> invasorzim: have you noticed that line 814 calls your device eth1 bcm4727  ?
[16:39] <Jagajugue> ubuntu_stuff: just to know the type
[16:39] <ubuntu_stuff> posibly he lost his disk
[16:40] <invasorzim> edbian: that is weird huh
[16:40] <starZ> hi all do you now how I can change my grub location from a disk to another ??
[16:40] <edbian> invasorzim: yes,
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: mogrify -type jpg *.gif
[16:40] <edbian> invasorzim: hang on, researching
[16:40] <invasorzim> edbian: the old pastebin does the same
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> starZ: man  grub-install
[16:40] <ubuntu_stuff> invasorzim i dont know what he want to do
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/man1/mogrify.1.html
[16:41] <invasorzim> ubuntu_stuff: huh?
[16:41] <ubuntu_stuff> ha
[16:41] <starZ> ActionParsnip: sure!! thx!! I should think about reading the manual more offen.. lol
[16:41] <RA_drc> schnuffle: excellent, thanks!
[16:41] <Osmodivs> ActionParsnip, Thanks
[16:41] <edbian> invasorzim: I know
[16:42] <edbian> invasorzim: There is also this I found: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=117689
[16:42] <ubuntu_stuff> maybe he wat to format to install
[16:42] <edbian> invasorzim: I think that the driver will randomly stop working eventually (with those errors in dmesg).  Sometimes it happens immediately when you boot.  Sometimes it never happens.
[16:42] <minhthong> where is xubuntu keyboart shorcuts?
[16:43] <invasorzim> edbian: oh great, so in essence i'll have to wait for a fix?
[16:43] <edbian> invasorzim: I suggest reporting a bug against the driver.  Use report bug and reference the package (bcmwl-kernel-source)
[16:43] <minhthong> where is xubuntu keyboart shorcuts?
[16:43] <edbian> invasorzim: I THINK so.
[16:43] <schnuffle> minhthong: http://www.keyxl.com/aaac887/409/Xfce-Window-Manager-keyboard-shortcuts.htm
[16:44] <c0mrade_> .
[16:44] <Jagajugue> hey, do you people know if ubuntu have some channel for embedded ubuntu?
[16:44] <c0mrade_> No, we don't.
[16:44] <invasorzim> edbian: hmmm
[16:44] <invasorzim> edbian: i remember there was another nifty command too
[16:45] <edbian> invasorzim: ?
[16:45] <invasorzim> edbian: like bug bcmwl-kernel-source
[16:45] <c0mrade_> What do you mean by embedded-ubuntu?
[16:45] <ubuntu_stuff> there are lots of commands
[16:45] <genii-around> Jagajugue: There is #embedded
[16:45] <NoobHaxor> hey
[16:45] <edbian> invasorzim: reportbug
[16:46] <edbian> invasorzim: I've never used it CLI.  I think it's a gui thing
[16:46] <c0mrade_> Is there a channel for #ubuntu-haters?
[16:46] <genii-around> Sorry two #
[16:46] <Polah> c0mrade_: Yeah, #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:46] <invasorzim> edbian: 2 stuff that i dont like here... 1st, no wifi. 2nd, no brightness control unless u install a ppa kernel by a user... nothing against him but i dont like using ppa kernel, and it doesnt fully corrects the brightness issue, just a workaround. my eyes burn from this full bright screen
[16:46] <Jagajugue> genii-around: cool!
[16:46] <Jagajugue> is this one for all types of embedded devices?
[16:46] <oCean> c0mrade_: drop the offtopic remarks please
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> invasorzim: does the oneiric release work ok, could try liveCD to test
[16:47] <c0mrade_> There are some strict laws here.
[16:47] <edbian> invasorzim: yeah, I can't help with the brightness issue.  Sorry to hear it!  What laptop is this?
[16:47] <invasorzim> ActionParsnip: hmmmmm good advice, i will try it
[16:47] <oCean> !guidelines > c0mrade_
[16:47]  * SaK I am now away - Reason for leaving: I have been idle for 1 minutes, and am now away - jam away mer - I am leaving at 6:47:37-PM (jam larg)
[16:47] <oCean> SaK: please disable that
[16:47] <invasorzim> edbian: Dell Inspiron N4010, fresh and not so new but recent, very good... too bad it does these annoyances
[16:47] <SaK> what_
[16:48] <oCean> SaK: your away message
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> 17:47  * SaK I am now away - Reason for leaving: I have been idle for 1 minutes, and am now away - jam away mer - I am leaving at 6:47:37-PM (jam larg)
[16:48] <edbian> invasorzim: Yes, sorry! :(
[16:48] <SaK> oh sorry
[16:48] <c0mrade_> Do you think I have time to read the guidlines? I am already bored here.
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> SaK: ^ that nonsense, nobody cares
[16:48] <genii-around> Jagajugue: No idea, I found it listed at: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode&chat=embedded
[16:48] <invasorzim> edbian: thanks anyway for the helping time
[16:48] <Pici> invasorzim: ubuntu-bug packagename
[16:48] <SaK> just stupidt script
[16:48] <edbian> invasorzim: sure
[16:48] <Pici> invasorzim: sorry, was scrolled up, I'm not sure if that is still relevant.
[16:48] <Jagajugue> genii-around: yep, there is no one there
[16:48] <Jagajugue> XD
[16:48] <invasorzim> edbian: oh it was 'ubuntu-bug'
[16:49] <Jagajugue> genii-around: thanks anyway!
[16:49] <invasorzim> Pici: thanks just found out he
[16:49] <edbian> invasorzim: ah-ha!
[16:49] <genii-around> Jagajugue: You may want to try #edev
[16:49] <RA_drc> hi, i'm trying to mount my hard drive using "sudo mount -o rw /dev/sdb1/" but i'm getting an error: "mount: can't find /dev/sdb1/ in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"   what am i doing wrong?
[16:50] <schnuffle> invasorzim: check https://launchpad.net/~kamalmostafa/+archive/linux-kamal-mjgbacklight
[16:50] <Jagajugue> genii-around: wow, nice one!
[16:51] <Jagajugue> genii-around: thanks genii
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> RA_drc: if you run:  mount     do you see sdb1 ?
[16:51] <c0mrade_> WARNING! We are maintaining our server now. We appologize for the inconvenience. We ask all the users in this channel to leave for 3 hours.
[16:51] <penster> lol
[16:51] <genii-around> Jagajugue: You're welcome
[16:52] <h00k> removed c0mrade_
[16:53] <ObrienDave> h00k: THANX!
[16:53] <schnuffle> RA_drc: should be: sudo mount -o rw /dev/sdb1  /mnt
[16:54] <schnuffle> RA_drc: and maybe you'll need to tell the filesystem type with -t vfat|etx2|....
[16:55] <tr0xan> is LOL working in ubuntu???
[16:57] <Jagajugue> tr0xan: (like)
[16:57] <Jagajugue> tr0xan: (like)
[16:57] <Jagajugue> tr0xan: XD
[16:57] <tr0xan> ?
[16:57] <zambaboo> running dpkg-rebuildpackage inside the kernel package. one particular module that i need is listed in .config but does not get built. how do i make sure it gets built?
[16:59] <Jagajugue> tr0xan: It`s really LOL working in ubuntu!
[17:00] <Jagajugue> later dudes, thanks for the help!
[17:01] <tr0xan> is League of Legends  working in ubuntu???
[17:03] <alperkanat> hey there.. can someone please help me about how i can disable apache2 from auto starting for ubuntu 10.04 lts? (the proper way like /etc/init etc..?)
[17:03] <Pici> tr0xan: Is that a Windows application?
[17:03] <tr0xan> yes
[17:03] <Pici> tr0xan: Then check Wine's appdb
[17:03] <Pici> !appdb | tr0xan
[17:03] <alperkanat> update-rc.d apache2 remove also doesn't do
[17:04] <alperkanat> anyone please? how can i completely prevent apache from starting automatically on boot?
[17:04] <Polah> alperkanat: DId you use sudo for that?
[17:05] <rumpe1> alperkanat, any error-message?
[17:05] <schnuffle> alperkanat: i think apache is handled by upstart so int is disbaled in the file /etc/init/apache2
[17:05] <alperkanat> i'm root already
[17:05] <alperkanat> schnuffle: there's no such file as /etc/init/apache2
[17:05] <alperkanat> i disabled mysql
[17:05] <alperkanat> but apache doesn't have that file
[17:05] <alperkanat> i need a proper way to disable it
[17:05] <rumpe1> alperkanat, check /etc/init.d/apache2
[17:06] <alperkanat> rumpe1: yes there's that fle
[17:06] <alperkanat> i can stop the daemon
[17:06] <alperkanat> but i don't want it to open at boot
[17:07] <Polah> alperkanat: Move it out of init.d then
[17:07] <rumpe1> alperkanat, any error message of "sudo update-rc.d apache2 remove" ?
[17:07] <alperkanat> that's not a proper way of doing it Polah
[17:08] <alperkanat> # update-rc.d apache2 -f remove
[17:08] <alperkanat> update-rc.d: warning: apache2 start runlevel arguments (none) do not match LSB Default-Start values (2 3 4 5)
[17:08] <alperkanat> update-rc.d: warning: apache2 stop runlevel arguments (none) do not match LSB Default-Stop values (0 1 6)
[17:08] <alperkanat> usage: update-rc.d [-n] [-f] <basename> remove
[17:08] <alperkanat>        update-rc.d [-n] <basename> defaults [NN | SS KK]
[17:08] <alperkanat>        update-rc.d [-n] <basename> start|stop NN runlvl [runlvl] [...] .
[17:08] <alperkanat>        update-rc.d [-n] <basename> disable|enable [S|2|3|4|5]
[17:08] <alperkanat> 		-n: not really
[17:08] <alperkanat> 		-f: force
[17:08] <alperkanat> The disable|enable API is not stable and might change in the future.
[17:08] <rumpe1> where are the floodbots? o.O
[17:08] <Pici> alperkanat: done?
[17:08] <Pici> alperkanat: Don't paste here, use a pastebin if you need.
[17:09] <alperkanat> i'm pretty annoyed with this problem since there's no documentation about it..
[17:09] <rumpe1> alperkanat, these are just warnings and the order of you parameters are not according to the manual
[17:09] <alperkanat> there are lots of how to's to install it
[17:09] <rumpe1> alperkanat, man update-rc.d is pretty informative
[17:09] <imperfec1-> Anyone around?
[17:09] <rumpe1> alperkanat, with a bunch of examples at the bottom
[17:10] <imperfec1-> Anyone know how I can get rsyslog to write the remote IP address from recieved logs in the log line?
[17:10] <alperkanat> rumpe1: ubuntu afaik moved to upstart so they'll probably ditch update-rc.d command soon.. so there should be a ubuntu way of disabling apache like disabling mysqld
[17:10] <alperkanat> that's what i'm asking for
[17:10] <rumpe1> alperkanat, well... apache is still system v init
[17:12] <rumpe1> alperkanat, are you reading?
[17:12] <dc5ala> alperkanat, either you use update-rc.d or manually remove the symlinks to apaches init script in /etc/rc*.d/ :P
[17:12] <alperkanat> i restarted to server to see if it's already disabled or not
[17:12] <dmtarmey> hello does anyone know how i can sort a problem with not being able to play youtube videos
[17:13] <MN--> is there a xmbc channel?
[17:13] <MN--> *xbmc
[17:13] <Tackster> hi guys - im deciding on which linux to download and install. Will ubuntu 64-bit work on a mid 2006 mac pro?
[17:13] <rumpe1> dmtarmey, have you installed flashplugin-nonfree ?
[17:13] <uber-linux> ux
[17:14] <dmtarmey> rumpel ill just check which one iv installed
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> MN--: #xbmc
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> Tackster: is the CPU 64bit?
[17:14] <ObrienDave> Tackster: does it have a 64 bit operating system?
[17:15] <rumpe1> dmtarmey, or try chrome, which has flash builtin
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> Tackster: telling us the year is moot, we need the cpu
[17:15] <Tackster> the CPU is 64 bit. however for technical reasons i don't understand while it will run a 64bit version of OS X it will not run 64bit windows
[17:15] <MN--> thanks
[17:16] <Tackster> something about the BIOS not being 64 bit or macs using UEFI
[17:16] <Tackster> or EFI
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> Tackster: then it should run. If not then just use 32bit
[17:16] <Tackster> ok i'll give it a go
[17:16] <Tackster> thanks
[17:18] <intrader> Anyone, I am unable to reboot 10.10 goes to the terminal screen.
[17:19] <Bilz> i have an ubuntu problem. its doing some computer intensive stuff and i can't fuckin get past the locked screen because it wont let me input my password.
[17:19] <rumpe1> Bilz, have you tried strg-alt-f1 till f6?
[17:19] <Bilz> thats ubuntu 11.04. the keyboard seems to have a key jammed (though im relatively sure its not jammed)
[17:19] <Bilz> strg?
[17:19] <Bilz> and no i have not
[17:20] <rumpe1> Bilz, yes... usually you have besides xserver 6 consoles
[17:20] <dc5ala> intrader, have you changed/updated anything? Did it work earlier or is it a fresh installation?
[17:20] <rumpe1> Bilz, you can login there and stop process, etc.
[17:21] <spo0kz> Does ubuntuone allow the downloading of files assuming my sync pc is tunred off ?
[17:21] <ASKidwai> anybody know how to find out what chmod settings are on a particular file?
[17:21] <Bilz> rumpe1, sorry, i dont want to stop the process. ill lose all the work done. thats the problem
[17:21] <intrader> dc5ala: , yes - on recommendation I unistalled CUPS and other stuff that synaptic labeled as cups related. The desktop disappeared.
[17:21] <Bilz> and i can't log in to check the status and whether its done
[17:21] <adubz> how can i verify that crontab is working
[17:22] <rumpe1> Bilz, you could also stop the process of the screensave, which is locking your screen
[17:22] <adubz> i just edited and saved im forgetting if i have to apply or anything
[17:22] <Bilz> that might be an idea
[17:22] <adubz> im thinking just saving saves the changes
[17:22] <Bilz> but the keyboard would still be jammed, no?
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> adubz: once you edit the file, it gets sorted straight away
[17:23] <rumpe1> Bilz, if you can't reach the consoles, because your keyboard is locked, you can still login via ssh from another pc, if you have installed openssh-server
[17:23] <mariandi> helll
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> Pici: can I PM please?
[17:23] <Pici> ActionParsnip: sure
[17:23] <rumpe1> Bilz, otherwise i'm afraid you have to reboot
[17:24] <dc5ala> intrader, log in your terminal and do a "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[17:24] <kanupatar> hello all
[17:24] <kanupatar> I am using ubuntu 11.04
[17:24] <kanupatar> and installed thunderbird
[17:24] <kanupatar> my question is how can install the font calibri in ubuntu?
[17:25] <iDirk> kanupatar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts
[17:25] <kanupatar> so that i can keepmy thunderbird editor is same as windows
[17:25] <Stu2> yegeh
[17:25] <Bilz> rumpe1, fixed. i unplugged the keyboard, it carried on with the keys, i jammed the keyboard back in, it carried in with the locked key, i hit a single letter and it stopped
[17:26] <kanupatar> iDirk: calibri is spported?
[17:26] <intrader> dc5ala: , I need to bring the laptop here - that simple? Would I need to be connected, or can the 10.10 disk work
[17:26] <Bilz> i was worried because last time i pulled the mouse out of my computer when it was running everything got fried
[17:26] <iDirk> kanupatar: http://embraceubuntu.com/2007/09/16/installing-vista-fonts-in-ubuntu/
[17:27] <dc5ala> intrader, you can just login the console and try it, maybe the packages you need are still in the package cache, if not it will require network connection
[17:27] <kanupatar> iDirk: thanks
[17:27] <iDirk> kanupatar: No problem. Good luck. :)
[17:28] <dc5ala> intrader, and better keep little cups, he gets sad and removes ubuntu-desktop too :)
[17:28] <kanupatar> iDirk: ohh buddy , on more doubt, how can i install skype and gtalk in uuntu?
[17:29] <iDirk> kanupatar: I am not sure about Gtalk, but you can install Skype from the Ubuntu Software Center.
[17:29] <kanupatar> iDirk: no ..i am installing skype through apt-get
[17:29] <iDirk> kanupatar: You don't have 11.04?
[17:29] <kanupatar> iDirk: i am having 11.04
[17:30] <uber-linux> how do i get the server to change in ubuntu xchat
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> uber-linux: /server irc.server.name
[17:30] <intrader> dc5ala: , I have tried the install - tells me that it was unable to fetch some of the archives
[17:30] <uber-linux> it keeps dragging me here
[17:30] <iDirk> kanupatar: It's easier to download with the Software Center :).
[17:30] <kanupatar> iDirk: also how can i install yahoo messenger in ubuntu 11.04?
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> uber-linux: which client?
[17:31] <glebihan> uber-linux, you can also use the menu XChat->Network list
[17:31] <iDirk> kanupatar: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Natty#Skype
[17:31] <uber-linux> xchat
[17:31] <uber-linux> no server list comes up buy freenode #ubuntu
[17:32] <dc5ala> intrader, maybe try a "sudo apt-get update" first to fetch package informations
[17:32] <ultraLit> echo hello!
[17:32] <kanupatar> iDirk: how yahoo?
[17:32] <uber-linux> k, thx
[17:32] <akashm1990> Ubuntu 11.04: sometimes when I mute the audio, the mute icon is grey, and sometimes its blue.. any idea why?
[17:32] <iDirk> kanupatar: You have Chrome?
[17:33] <kanupatar> iDirk: no
[17:33] <ultraLit> is this general ubuntu chat?
[17:33] <intrader> dc5ala: , I tried the update - still a bunch fail to load. I have place the CD for 10.10 in tray
[17:33] <Polah> ultraLit, Support
[17:33] <ultraLit> thanks
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> akashm1990: maybe when there is sound running but sound is muted
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> ultraLit: this is the official ubuntu support channel
[17:34] <iDirk> kanupatar: I don't use Yahoo Messenger. But I see you can download it with Google Web Store in Chrome.
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> kanupatar: there is gyache
[17:35] <akashm1990> ActionParsnip, ah yes... thats it   nice touch
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> !gyache
[17:35] <Polah> ActionParsnip, akashm1990: I can get my icon to change blue if I mute and then start to play something
[17:35] <dc5ala> intrader, are you sure you have a working internet connection on that laptop?
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> boom
[17:35] <glebihan> kanupatar, pidgin (and probably many other clients) can be used to connect to yahoo chat
[17:35] <jiltdil> How to password protect single usermode in ubuntu without using grub password?
[17:35] <Tru3fate> can anyone help . how can i run disc error check on ubuntu.
[17:35] <Cpudan80> Hey
[17:35] <kanupatar> iDirk: ActionParsnip : my friend is using yahoo meenger and so i need to use the same for video chat
[17:36] <Cpudan80> I am trying to login to an ubuntu 10.04 system -- but I dont know the user password (there is only one user) so I need to reset it ...
[17:36] <Cpudan80> I have physical access to the box -- so that's not a problem ...
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> kanupatar: yes, gyache will do it
[17:36] <Stu2> hello
[17:36] <jiltdil> Kanupatar: use empathy
[17:36] <Stu2> are you able to see this message?
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> kanupatar: what is the output of: lsb_release -c
[17:36] <Cpudan80> If anyone knows how to reset it I'd appreciate it
[17:36] <Stu2> can everyone see this message?
[17:36] <Calinou> yes
[17:36] <Cpudan80> Stu2: no - only you can
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> Cpudan80: boot to root recovery console and reset it there
[17:36] <Stu2> good
[17:36] <intrader> dc5ala: , no it is being used by the laptop I am using to communicate with you - this laptop is running Windows Vista and I am unable to connect to the wifi on it. Can we try connecting the ubuntu to wife while on terminal?
[17:36] <iDirk> Tru3fate: fsck?
[17:37] <jiltdil> How to password protect single usermode in ubuntu without using grub password?
[17:37] <Cpudan80> ActionParsnip: Well yeah I tried that, I select "recovery mode" from the boot menu but I never get to a command prompt
[17:37] <cristian_c> Hi
[17:37] <Cpudan80> The screen eventualy just goes black
[17:37] <cristian_c> which program should I use to configure the multi-gesture touchpad?
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> Cpudan80: select root from the next screen, you should get another screen
[17:37] <Tru3fate> is that the command to run check error on disc and fix.?
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> !fsck | Tru3fate
[17:38] <Cpudan80> ActionParsnip: there is no next screen, it acts like it is booting up and then just ... stops
[17:38] <kanupatar> ActionParsnip: Codename:	natty
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> kanupatar: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-gyachi-on-ubuntu-11-04-natty-using-ppa.html
[17:38] <Polah> Cpudan80: You could boot a LiveCD and edit /etc/passwd on the actual installation partition to change the hash of the user to one you know
[17:38] <knat> I am trying to set up openvpn on my ubuntu server, ufw is blocking the traffic that goes through it though, both of my clients can communicate with the server over the vpn, but they cannot talk to eachother unless I disable ufw, how can I fix this
[17:39] <Tru3fate> cool thanks didn't know it does it automatic. just wanted to check my box took a beating
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Cpudan80: you can always boot to liveCD then chroot
[17:39] <new001> if I want to exit a function, but I don't want anything to happen, is using a solitary 'return' appropriate?
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> new001: which language?
[17:39] <Cpudan80> ActionParsnip: Ok I can try that
[17:39] <Polah> knat: ufw automatically closes ports unless something is listening on them. You'd need to configure the port used to be open
[17:39] <new001> ActionParsnip, doh, sorry, Python... thought I was in #Python
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> new001: not this time, it's #ubuntu
[17:40] <new001> ActionParsnip, aye, need to tab down... sorry about that
[17:40] <Al-Sindi> hi
[17:40] <glebihan> intrader, could you pastebin the output ?
[17:40] <nowfree> Hello
[17:40] <nowfree> Hello?
[17:40] <glebihan> hello nowfree
[17:40] <knat> Polah: I have opened up 1194, which is the port used by openvpn, and the clients can connect on that port, but traffic that is should be forwarded gets blocked
[17:40] <Al-Sindi> can any boddy help me to reset my boot option?? my ubuntu is not booting at all
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> new001: no harm done
[17:41] <intrader> glebihan, I don't have internet access on that laptop - what output are you referring to?
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> Al-Sindi: can you boot to root recovery mode?
[17:42] <seanz> #cars-sm
[17:42] <Al-Sindi> ActionParsnip: no I cant
[17:42] <Polah> Al-Sindi: Reinstall grub: man grub-install
[17:42] <Al-Sindi> I get error boot0: error
[17:42] <glebihan> intrader, I meant the output of the "apt-get update" command but if you don't have internet access, forget it
[17:42] <Al-Sindi> Polah from here ?? to reinstall
[17:42] <Taos> adding to path is this right?
[17:42] <Taos> export PATH="$PATH:/opt/idea/bin"
[17:43] <Polah> Al-Sindi: No in a terminal
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> Al-Sindi: i'd boot to liveCD and you can fix from there
[17:43] <intrader> glebihan, a whole slew of
[17:43] <intrader> glebihan, a whole slew of failed to fetch ...
[17:43] <Al-Sindi> Okay Polah i'll try
[17:43] <Taos> Anyone?
[17:43] <Polah> Al-Sindi: Well, on the system you need to fix GRUB on. if you're not on it then boot a LiveCD/USB and do it
[17:44] <glebihan> intrader, well I guess that those errors are just telling you that remote repositories could not be fetch, which isn't suprising since you don't have an internet connection
[17:44] <Al-Sindi> Polah i get error No manual entry for grub-install
[17:44] <dc5ala> intrader, not sure if your cd is still in the package source list (/etc/apt/sources.list), you may try inserting the cd and then use sudo apt-cdrom add
[17:44] <Polah> Al-Sindi: What are you on just now?
[17:44] <glebihan> intrader, you could temporarily disable the official repositories and see how it goes
[17:44] <Al-Sindi> Im in live cd
[17:44] <Al-Sindi> by usb
[17:45] <Polah> Al-Sindi: try grub-install --help
[17:45] <dc5ala> intrader, im trying it here but can't find my cd at the moment, still searching :p
[17:45] <Al-Sindi> Polah I am using live usb of rescatux
[17:45] <intrader> dc5ala: , I will try the sudo apt-cdrom add
[17:45] <Al-Sindi> Polah still geting error
[17:45] <Al-Sindi> comand not found
[17:46] <Polah> Al-Sindi: don't know how to use that.
[17:46] <Al-Sindi> Okay. Polah do you know any thing about boot0: error
[17:46] <nickolai_> hey everyone! does anybody  deal with RTL8188CE wifi chip? or any realtek kind of new chips? i have random disconections....
[17:47] <Polah> Al-Sindi: Ask in #grub
[17:48] <Al-Sindi> then how to restore grub
[17:48] <intrader> dc5ala: , glebihan, is it possible to connect the wifi to the ubuntu running the terminal? By the wayt the sudo apt-cdrom add did something with errors and finally settled back to the prompt where I reissued the 'sudo apt-get update' with same results.
[17:49] <Polah> Al-Sindi: I told you how to do it from an Ubuntu live session, ask in #grub for what you're using
[17:49] <Al-Sindi> Polah if I reinstall entire ubuntu it works, but i dont want to reinstall it once again.
[17:49] <Polah> Al-Sindi: Like I said, use grub-install from an Ubuntu live session...
[17:50] <intrader> dc5ala: , glebihan, I could temporarily disconnect the ethernet and connect it to the ubuntu laptop and reissue the update
[17:50] <dc5ala> intrader, ye, neither did it work here =/
[17:50] <glebihan> intrader, it is possible but I'm really no expert at that... however you should still try disabling all repositories except cdrom and re-execute the update command
[17:50] <Al-Sindi> Okay Polah, I'll try
[17:50] <glebihan> intrader, that could a solution too
[17:50] <Al-Sindi> before that is there any lv
[17:50] <macfire> I am here to vent more than a necessarily help. First, if I try to install an OS, would not need much help, my video card does not work, this drug can not boot OS. I've tried everything, but unfortunately I can only install version 10.10, this would be the same as a having a great PC and use Windows 95. Actually the windows have their problems of security, not free, but he can use their latest
[17:50] <macfire> version, features the best of my pc without getting stressed. Two days ago I'm banging my head to install an OS, which is said friendly and safe, should really be safe, because the difficulty of installing it is huge, simply give up that OS, and if someone come to ask for information or not to keep Ubuntu installed, I will say with all words, do not use, no use this garbage
[17:51] <dc5ala> intrader, when you have internet it should be a lot easier :)
[17:51] <Al-Sindi> Polah do you know how to reset grub from rescatux ???
[17:51] <Polah> Al-Sindi: No. Ask in #grub
[17:51] <intrader> dc5ala: , glebihan, I would have to disconnect the chat. I will try that - be back
[17:51] <Al-Sindi> what is ask in #grub
[17:51] <pielstik> where is martin borman ?
[17:51] <ObrienDave> macfire: and your point is???
[17:52] <NthDegree> macfire, actually with Windows one can't use the latest
[17:52] <NthDegree> macfire, Windows doesn't let people use their latest OS developments, they get the release which is stale by the time it's shipped for retail
[17:52] <Al-Sindi> Do u mean grub form!!??
[17:52] <Polah> mcfire: Ubuntu 10.10 is hardly out of date.
[17:52] <macfire> NthDegree three day for install a SO and dont works
[17:52] <Polah> Al-Sindi: I mean the #grub channel on freenode. /join #grub
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> macfire: 10.l0 is still fully supported, so is not out of date at all
[17:53] <macfire> Polah i know, but i buy a radeon hd 6850 and dont works ins nathy
[17:53] <Al-Sindi> Okay Polah thanx
[17:53] <Al-Sindi> bye
[17:53] <NthDegree> macfire, why not use the LTS version?  That's the one Canonical ships CDs/DVDs for
[17:53] <csarven> I've edited /etc/environment, how I initiate the changes without rebooting?
[17:53] <macfire> NthDegree because dont works system in radeon
[17:53] <NthDegree> macfire, tried booting with nomodeset?
[17:53] <rumpe1> csarven, exec bash
[17:54] <macfire> in boot, stay ins this message Stopping save kernel messages
[17:54] <NthDegree> macfire, try the Ubuntu LTS version and see if it works
[17:54] <csarven> rumpe1 I'm afraid that didn't help.
[17:54] <macfire> NthDegree sure, in install is corret after stop in that message
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> macfire: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[17:55] <macfire> esc in boot, after f6 nomodoset
[17:55] <macfire> after in grub, type E and after quiet splash nomodeset
[17:55] <NthDegree> yeah, it does sound like a bad download or bad burn of CD
[17:55] <macfire> NthDegree five cds and downloads?
[17:55] <NthDegree> macfire, in that case, you'll have to try the LTS
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> macfire: statistically you COULD download an infinite number of files and never get a good one
[17:56] <rumpe1> csarven, did you execute "bash" or "exec bash" ?
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> macfire: also did you burn as slowly as you could?
[17:56] <macfire> ActionParsnip but de PORBABILITY is near 0
[17:56] <macfire> ActionParsnip 2,4
[17:56] <csarven> exec bash
[17:56] <NthDegree> don't count on that
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> macfire: it can happen though, so checks NEED to be done
[17:56] <macfire> ActionParsnip i chech md5
[17:56] <rumpe1> csarven, ah... doesn't matter... you can also put the PATH=... line in your commandline and it will be applied to the current environment of the shell
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> macfire: good, burning slow helps
[17:56] <macfire> in 4 downloads
[17:56] <csarven> source /etc/environment helped. However, I wanted all my screen's to pick that up.
[17:57] <NthDegree> macfire, try the Ubuntu LTS
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> macfire: could try Oneiric, just to test
[17:57] <NthDegree> ActionParsnip, hell no, that thing is unstable
[17:58] <macfire> ActionParsnip I install the system, but I can not boot, it just stands in the message "Stopping save kernel messages"
[17:58] <iDirk> Anyone know why I can't drag windows to my other monitor in my dualscreen setup? Searched everywhere and tried everything.
[17:58] <dc5ala> glebihan, i think that apt-cdrom is broken -_-, it used to work back in my debian days ;)
[17:59] <glebihan> dc5ala, it should still be working
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> NthDegree: its fine here
[17:59] <macfire> my hardwares is, VGA Radeon HD 6800, amd X64
[17:59] <glebihan> dc5ala, are you getting errors when running it ?
[17:59] <macfire> NthDegree 10.04 is works fine
[18:00] <dc5ala> glebihan, it does not find any package indexes there and therefore does not add it to sources.list
[18:00] <NthDegree> macfire, if you're moving from Windows, the LTS is the best option.  It better matches the same release style Windows uses
[18:00] <macfire> but i want the newest version, i want use a UNITY, that why I bought this video card
[18:00] <NthDegree> eww O_O
[18:01] <glebihan> dc5ala, is the CD you've inserted the correct one for your architecture ?
[18:01]  * NthDegree still provides support for Ubuntu, but ditched it on his main PC because of Unity and GNOME 3
[18:01] <dc5ala> glebihan, of course :)
[18:02] <NthDegree> macfire, btw, ATI is the worst option for using 3D, ironically the proprietary NVIDIA drivers are the most bug-free in my experience lately
[18:02] <lauratika> hello everyone... my ide hard drive is recognize on the bios at boot
[18:02] <lauratika> is not sorry, is not
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> NthDegree: why not keep using ubuntu, but switch desktop env...
[18:03] <macfire> NthDegree and ActionParsnip when I removed the option vt.handoof = 7 in grub, he began, but was in text mode, and it was not for the graphics mode, I typed startx, and it did not work.
[18:03] <dc5ala> glebihan, i was trying to help that dude without internet on his laptop, so i tried if it can work that way, but it does not work as expected and how i used to to that
[18:03] <glebihan> dc5ala, weird then... I don't have a CD here to test, but I'm pretty sure apt-cdrom is still working (and is the way to add a cd to sources.list)
[18:03] <lauratika> this is the output of blkid dev/sda1: UUID="25cfcd4a-1112-4a91-8cbd-c447630b1ebe" TYPE="ext4"
[18:03] <lauratika> /dev/sda2: UUID="96aa5caa-0767-4b31-a875-f5b52fdbb6ba" TYPE="ext4"
[18:03] <lauratika> /dev/sda3: UUID="E656-2CAB" TYPE="vfat"
[18:03] <lauratika> /dev/mapper/cryptswap1: UUID="bd600f18-d5f4-4a1f-8651-db3b7472b305" TYPE="swap"
[18:03] <NthDegree> ActionParsnip, because I wanted to stick with GNOME 2 and also not lose all the other brilliantly stable, otherwise perfect applications
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> macfire: when startx fails, run:  less /var/loc/xorg.0.log    see what is bad
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> NthDegree: seen the new fork on omgubuntu
[18:04] <Polah> Has anyone else got the "No installer data could be found" error when attempting to install Starcraft 2 from disk?
[18:04] <macfiree> sorry
[18:05] <NthDegree> ActionParsnip, i'll take the 7 years of an RH-clone until GNOME becomes sane again >_>
[18:05] <nirius> ps3 list game please
[18:05] <macfiree> NthDegree and ActionParsnip when I removed the option vt.handoof = 7 in grub, he began, but was in text mode, and it was not for the graphics mode, I typed startx, and it did not work.
[18:05] <adamanna96> Ez mire jó??
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> nirius: that is offtopic here
[18:05] <NthDegree> macfire, that's because the graphics card drivers aren't working right there and then
[18:05] <adamanna96> Nem értem
[18:05] <macfiree> NthDegree and ActionParsnip when I removed the option vt.handoof = 7 in grub, he began, but was in text mode, and it was not for the graphics mode, I typed startx, and it did not work.
[18:05] <nirius> sorry
[18:05] <adamanna96> ???
[18:05] <Myrtti> !hu | adamanna96
[18:06] <macfiree> NthDegree in version 10.04 i install my drivers, in beta version, and did work
[18:06] <NthDegree> macfire, i'd recommend installing fglrx drivers and trying to boot normally then ;)
[18:06] <nirius> list
[18:06] <adamanna96> Mit lehet ezen csinálni ?
[18:06] <adamanna96> Mie jó ???
[18:06] <NthDegree> macfiree, also, have you tried apt-get update && apt-get upgrade as root?
[18:06] <iDirk> !hu | adamanna96
[18:06] <NthDegree> macfiree, because updates may fix the problem you're having
[18:07] <ntiy> anybody here from NY?
[18:07] <ntiy> new york?
[18:07] <intrader> dc5ala: , glebihan, wow, guys that seems to have worked - I have desktop on the ubuntu. I will continue from there with wifi in a few minutes to continue working on the initialz problem of getting print to work. The CUPS server is on a mac on the network.
[18:07] <h00k> !ot | ntiy
[18:07] <macfiree> NthDegree but, how do i install the drivers, if i cant boot?
[18:07] <adamanna96> De nem bírja el ez a gép !
[18:07] <lauratika> any ideas why my second hard drive is not recognized by ubuntu?
[18:07] <dc5ala> intrader, great! :)
[18:07] <NthDegree> macfiree, get it to boot the way you did to get it into text mode, then apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> macfire: you could blacklist the radeon and ati driver using bootoptions, may help
[18:07] <macfiree> ok
[18:08] <adamanna96> P3 650Mhz 128 RAM
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> macfire: try adding:  radeon.blacklist=1 ati.blacklist=1
[18:08] <macfiree> ActionParsnip first i try de option the NthDegree, if dont work, i try your option
[18:08] <intrader> dc5ala: , glebihan, amazing help - I will be back on the ubuntu. I need to say bye for now
[18:08] <adamanna96> Nem kevés hozzá ??
[18:08] <Myrtti> !english | adamanna96
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> adamanna96: get another 128Mb and you can run puppy or lubuntu easily
[18:09] <Polah> Never mind, got it mounted and running now
[18:09] <afeijo> damn, to recover a damaged ntfs partition its a PITA !
[18:09] <lauratika> adamanna96:  im using in an old laptop wary  5.2 and works pretty well give it a try
[18:11] <adamanna96> Meg kérhetlek titeket hogy magyarul irjatok. Jó lenne mert ugy többet értenék belőle
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: foremost may do it, why do you not have backups?
[18:11] <Polah> Is sudo supposed to work for a single command or a set time period?
[18:11] <macfiree> NthDegree after apt-get upgrade, i need reboot?
[18:12] <adamanna96> Bocsánat érteném legalább.
[18:12] <Polah> macfiree: You shouldn't
[18:12] <afeijo> ActionParsnip, partition backup? :) simple, why would someone resize a partition? lack of space!
[18:12] <NthDegree> macfiree, yep
[18:12] <macfiree> or just type startx?
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: yes, and especially before resizing
[18:12] <NthDegree> macfiree, it should update the kernel too
[18:12] <h00k> !hu | adamanna96
[18:12] <NthDegree> so you'll need to reboot
[18:12] <afeijo> ActionParsnip, too late
[18:13] <NthDegree> macfiree, if that fails, try installing flgrx, as that's the proper ATI driver
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> afeijo: you've learned the hardest possible way
[18:13] <NthDegree> err fglrx*
[18:13] <afeijo> ActionParsnip, not too woried, it is just a workstation
[18:13] <sabayonuser> hola
[18:13] <sabayonuser> HOLA
[18:13] <sabayonuser> un saludo desde Palma de Mallorca. España
[18:13] <h00k> !es | sabayonuser
[18:13] <iDirk> Polah: You are 'sodu'ed' 5 minutes I believe.
[18:13] <NthDegree> ActionParsnip, funny enough, today is the first day i'm making proper organised backups of my important data XD
[18:14] <Myrtti> adamanna96: /join #ubuntu-hu
[18:14] <brauliobo> hello, can I give a permission to my user A to login as another user B? could you I do that with sudo?
[18:15] <adamanna96> hol találok magyar szervert ??
[18:15] <adamanna96> mi volt a neve
[18:15] <jamesans1ow> anyone know if we can expect to see better support for the macbook pro wireless drivers in upcoming releases?
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> jamesans1ow: i'd imagine so, most use broadcom things afair, which work with the driver installer
[18:16] <glebihan> brauliobo, you could use "sudo -u username command"
[18:17] <jamesans1ow> ActionParsnip: do you know of any free wireless drivers for broadcom? i know traditionally their firmware is closed
[18:17] <macfiree> boot stop gain
[18:18] <Myrtti> adamanna96: irjatok --> /join #ubuntu-hu
[18:19] <brauliobo> glebihan: nice, but how can I restricted the -u option for only one username, I mean A can use -u with B
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> jamesans1ow: the firmware is proprietary so until broadcom make a move it will be the same
[18:19] <macfiree> in text mode, how do i mount a usb
[18:20] <th0r> jamesans1ow: some of the broadcom cards can be utilized...I am running the 4312 without problems.
[18:20] <th0r> find out which chipset you have and research it on the web
[18:20] <glebihan> brauliobo, afaik it's not possible
[18:21] <macfiree> in /dev/dsb1
[18:21] <edbian> jamesans1ow: wifi BCM4312  ?
[18:21] <glebihan> brauliobo, once a user has the necessary privilege to run sudo with the -u option, he can do it with any user
[18:21] <jamesans1ow> th0r: is that on a 2011 mbp?
[18:21] <jamesans1ow> edbian: what is that for?
[18:21] <edbian> jamesans1ow: I'm asking if that's the wifi card you're trying to get working?
[18:22] <jamesans1ow> edbian: moment
[18:22] <edbian> jamesans1ow: sure
[18:22] <brauliobo> glebihan: i see...
[18:22] <genii-around> macfiree: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt          then you see the contents under /mnt directory
[18:23] <jamesans1ow> edbian: as i'm in OS X at the moment all I can tell is that it's a Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.100.98.75.10) card
[18:24] <edbian> jamesans1ow: what are the xx's?  It's critical to know. In ubuntu you can run sudo lspci | grep Network to find out
[18:26] <glebihan> brauliobo, checking right now, but you may want to have a look at he "Runas_List" option of the sudoers file
[18:26] <jamesans1ow> edian: BCM4331
[18:26] <jamesans1ow> edbian: BCM4311 *
[18:27] <brauliobo> glebihan: hum, will check it ou
[18:27] <edbian> jamesans1ow: oh that's cards easy.  are you online via some other method with the Ubuntu computer?
[18:27] <adamanna96> Mit kell csinálni hogy a magyar szerveren legyek ?
[18:27] <saba> Does anyone run Ubuntu on the latest macbook air?
[18:27] <jamesans1ow> edbian: I am, via ethernet wired
[18:27] <kkdevta> hello people, idle CPU temperture is 50 C and on load it goes upto 60 C. Is this normal??
[18:28] <edbian> jamesans1ow: excellent.  Basically you need to install the firmware.  sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer and sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[18:28] <jamesans1ow> edbian: thanks I shall give it a go
[18:28] <edbian> jamesans1ow: let me know when those things are installed
[18:29] <glebihan> brauliobo, it doesn't seem to be what you're looking for after all
[18:29] <kkdevta> hello people, idle CPU temperture is 50 C and on load it goes upto 60 C. Is this normal?? using ubuntu natty on intel core2duo t6500 processor
[18:29] <akashm1990> kkdevta, ambient temp?
[18:30] <kkdevta> 28 C
[18:30] <kkdevta> akashm1990, 28 C
[18:30] <adamanna96> Mit kell csinálni hogy a magyar szerveren legyek
[18:30] <adamanna96> Valaki segítsen
[18:31] <macfiree> now, its work
[18:31] <Myrtti> adamanna96: ez a csatorna csak angol nyelvű, írás / join #ubuntu-hu, esetleg valaki tudna segíteni van
[18:31] <nil1gn> hello, is there a channel for unity?
[18:31] <glebihan> brauliobo, you may want to have a look at this : http://serverfault.com/questions/17814/how-can-i-allow-one-user-to-su-to-another-without-allowing-root-access
[18:31] <nil1gn> does anyone know if theres plans to port it to gtk3 or gnome 3?
[18:31] <aeon-ltd> !turkish > adamanna96
[18:32] <akashm1990> kkdevta, seems to be a bit high.. but unless load temps cross 75-80, I dont think you should worry about it
[18:32] <glebihan> nil1gn, in oneiric unity will be running on gnome3
[18:32] <Pici> aeon-ltd: Thats not turkish...
[18:32] <iDirk> lol
[18:32] <ObrienDave> nil1gn: /join #unity
[18:33] <mtrd`> ObrienDave, use invitations, please.
[18:33] <Pici> ObrienDave: Thats not an official channel.
[18:33] <opt1mus> msg chanserv access #unity info
[18:33] <nil1gn> its also ##unity
[18:33] <aeon-ltd> Pici: heh google translate hath failed me again.........
[18:33] <opt1mus> oops
[18:33] <nil1gn> ObrienDave: thats another projects channel
[18:33] <kkdevta> akashm1990,  the whole dell laptop feels hot on ubuntu where else on fedora it's cooler...i am using i8ktools but not able to figureout if it's working
[18:33] <Pici> nil1gn: Feel free to ask about it in #ubuntu+1
[18:33] <ObrienDave> ok ok got it
[18:34] <akashm1990> kkdevta, yes, its a  bit on the higher side, but not too high
[18:34] <nil1gn> i see unity in oneiric depends on libgtk-3-0 (>= 3.1.6) http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/unity so its already ported
[18:34] <nil1gn> thank you
[18:34] <spunion> hi
[18:35] <spunion> ive got natty narwhal on lenovo x121e intel 13 i installed it
[18:35] <spunion> all works
[18:35] <spunion> but could be better
[18:35] <spunion> anyone know anything?
[18:35] <iDirk> What?
[18:35] <spunion> i know nothing
[18:35] <edbian> spunion: It could not be better than Ubuntu :)
[18:35] <mbeierl> Where does one find a howto or other guide on using Unity?  Something as simple as creating keyboard shortcuts to launch programs eludes me.
[18:35] <aeon-ltd> spunion: better how?
[18:35] <kkdevta> akashm1990,  thanks.. :)
[18:36] <spunion> sleep functions, etc
[18:36] <spunion> other drivers
[18:36] <spunion> i know nothing
[18:36] <akashm1990> kkdevta, Ubuntu usually runs hotter than windows (dont know about Fedora though)
[18:36] <Pici> !enter | spunion
[18:36] <glebihan> mbeierl, http://theravingrick.blogspot.com/2011/04/my-effort-at-writing-help-for-unity.html
[18:36] <brauliobo> glebihan: that's it, thanx!
[18:36] <glebihan> brauliobo, you're welcome
[18:37] <Guest58119> hola
[18:38] <Guest58119> hola
[18:38] <Pici> !es | Guest58119
[18:38] <spunion> is ubuntu an alternative community?
[18:38] <edbian> spunion: alternative to what?
[18:38] <carl__> lu
[18:38] <spunion> im not sure
[18:38] <oCean> spunion: this channel is for technical support, try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[18:38] <spunion> windows
[18:38] <edbian> spunion: yes
[18:39] <mbeierl> glebihan: thanks.  That's a little too high level... I
[18:39] <spunion> is an alternative to the wider world. another space
[18:39] <oCean> spunion: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[18:39] <edbian> spunion: Ubuntu is not an alternate planet.
[18:39] <spunion> ok sorry
[18:39] <spunion> ciao
[18:40] <glebihan> mbeierl, sorry... that's the only one I know of
[18:43] <mbeierl> glebihan: yep.  that's why I'm having a hard time adjusting to it, I guess.  There's no "unity for gnome users" transition guide type thing...
[18:43] <h00k> spunion: /join #ubuntu-offtopic if you'd like
[18:44] <calwig> Hi, the mouse scroll section of the mouse pad isnt working. How can I check that this module is loaded?
[18:45] <xrdodrx> calwig, I'm assuming you're not talking about the trackpad on your laptop?
[18:48] <calwig> xrdodrx: yeah
[18:48] <calwig> xrdodrx: Last week it was working now its now
[18:48] <calwig> err not
[18:49] <xrdodrx> calwig, have you updated your kernel in that time? rebooted your computer? is the module psmouse loaded? what does the output of `lsmod` look like?
[18:49] <calwig> xrdodrx: kernel update yeah, let me see..
[18:50] <calwig> xrdodrx: psmouse                40336  0
[18:50] <calwig> xrdodrx: I presume it must be loaded from somewhere
[18:50] <xrdodrx> calwig, try doing sudo rmmod psmouse && sudo modprobe psmouse
[18:50] <calwig> k
[18:51] <eross> should i install netbeans 7.01 as super user or home user? I guess superuser is same as system-wide?
[18:51] <calwig> xrdodrx: now wait.. the pad works, its just the scroll
[18:52] <xrdodrx> calwig, i know, thought that might help ;)
[18:52] <calwig> xrdodrx: let me explain what happened...
[18:52] <xrdodrx> have you tried restarting X?
[18:52] <xrdodrx> sure
[18:53] <killfoo> hi, i have a hp elitebook 8540w with nvidia geforce 1800m. after the installation with alternate 64bit, the X cannot start (screwed up stuff is displayed). any known problems related to such issues with ubuntu?
[18:53] <xrdodrx>  /w 22
[18:54] <calwig> xrdodrx: I run this OS on the fly and I thought I could load this on another computer. X however didnt load, and I presume xorg.conf got backed up or changed. Anyhow I gave up loading Ubuntu on that PC so I just went back to my laptop and X did not load. I had to manually get an xorg.conf backup file and restore it myself
[18:54] <xrdodrx> :|
[18:54] <calwig> xrdodrx: Once I got X to load up again, the scroll bar just didnt work.
[18:54] <calwig> on the fly= USB
[18:55] <xrdodrx> that makes sense, since X decides that type of thing
[18:55] <eross> but if i do a sudo install, will i have problems running the autoupdate from the help menu?
[18:55] <xrdodrx> yeah, I know what on the fly is :)
[18:55] <xrdodrx> calwig, mind putting your xorg.conf up on paste.ubuntu.com so I can take a look?
[18:56] <bourke> hi what repo has the latest stable version of google chrome?
[18:56] <xrdodrx> bourke, the one you get when you download chrome from google's website
[18:56] <bourke> I have http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ but it's only giving me v8
[18:57] <calwig> xrdodrx: yeth thir
[18:57] <bourke> maybe that is the latest stable :/
[18:57] <rumpe1> bourke, deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
[18:57] <Pici> bourke: There are PPAs that align with Google's release channels.
[18:57] <bourke> ah
[18:57] <linuxuz3r> bourke i got version 11 and i got it from googles website
[18:58] <bourke> maybe Ill just try redownloading the google package
[19:00] <bourke> thanks
[19:01] <xrdodrx> sorry calwig, I've got to go, hope you get help :)
[19:01] <littletinybaby> is there a way to run multiple programs from one terminal?
[19:01] <bourke> littletinybaby: add & after the command
[19:01] <glebihan> littletinybaby, use a "&" at the end of the command to run it in background
[19:01] <trism> littletinybaby: or use screen/tmux and separate windows
[19:02] <mbeierl> Is there such a thing as a workspace switcher applet (or any docking applet) for unity?  I'm used to being able to see thumbnails of windows on workspaces at a glance, and not have to hunt for them?
[19:02] <littletinybaby> thank you
[19:03] <albech> looking for a good spam filter for my postfix/dovecot. It need to support user training
[19:03] <littletinybaby> Thanks guys!
[19:03] <glebihan> littletinybaby, you're welcome
[19:05] <calwig> xrdodrx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/673309/
[19:05] <doofy_> so it looks like Apple took SMB support out of OS X Lion because the SMB guys changed the license to GPL 3… Anyone have suggestions on a quick way to get some file shares back up and running that OS X Lion could access?
[19:06] <lonewulf`> hi all, is there a program like ccleaner on winxp for natty narwhal?
[19:06] <aeon-ltd> doofy_: (s)ftp?
[19:06] <lonewulf`> ubuntu 11.04
[19:07] <aeon-ltd> lonewulf`: why? there's no need excpt flash cache and cookies
[19:07] <ichbinder> hello. Can anybody confirm that linking with liblpsolve55-dev (5.5.0.13-7) leads to a linker error like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/673314/ on Ubuntu 11.04?
[19:07] <doofy_> aeon-ltd: Im trying to make it just show up for people on the network. SMB broadcasts over avahi I'm pretty sure which made it nice and easy for people to access
[19:07] <mbeierl> sorry - X crash - lost connection.
[19:08] <aeon-ltd> doofy_: nfs? not sure if apple supports that, but avahi can probably help
[19:08] <lonewulf`> aeon-ltd, thanks for the response...let me ask you this then...whats the best way to wipe flash, cache, and cookies in ubuntu 11.04?
[19:08] <designbybeck> how do you kill a zombie proccess?
[19:08] <doofy_> aeon-ltd: NFS is probably a good idea. ill give that a shot. thanks
[19:08] <designbybeck> i am viewing 'top' at the moment
[19:08] <lonewulf`> really trying not to go into winxp for ANYTHING
[19:08] <designbybeck> and a program didn't shut down
[19:08] <designbybeck> using 105% processor?
[19:09] <designbybeck> i tried Kill -9 and such
[19:09] <calwig> oops, im back
[19:10] <designbybeck> am i in the wrong spot for asking that kind of question
[19:11] <calwig> and again...
[19:11] <glebihan> designbybeck, you can't kill a zombie process
[19:11] <LABcrab> Hello everyone!  i'm back, and last time, we were trying to boot an Ubuntu ISO on a computer that can't boot from floppy, CD or USB.
[19:11] <calwig> xrdodrx: back
[19:11] <LABcrab> glebihan: This isnt Twilight!
[19:11] <glebihan> designbybeck, the only way to kill it to kill its parent
[19:11] <aeon-ltd> lonewulf`: the browser can handle the last 2, ~/macromedia/Flash_Player/#SharedObjects/YOURalphanumericcode and ~/.macromedia/Flash_Player/macromedia.com/support/flashplayer/sys ; also apt-get builds up a cache in /var/cache/apt-something-can't remember but i'd keep those for rolling back or quick reinstalls
[19:11] <designbybeck> hmmm glebihan i tried the proccess id
[19:11] <designbybeck> which was kdenlive
[19:12] <designbybeck> i had saved and closed out, but something with it is still running
[19:12] <ichbinder> nobody has experience with liblpsolve55-dev?
[19:12] <glebihan> designbybeck, what is the parent of that process ?
[19:12] <h00k> ichbinder: what is your actual question?
[19:12] <designbybeck> how do i find that out glebihan ?
[19:13] <Gasseus> How would I restrict network access by user?
[19:14] <ichbinder> h00k: I get linking errors with liblpsolve55-dev and wanted to see if others have that problem too and if anybody has a solution
[19:14] <glebihan> designbybeck, ps -fp process_id will give the parent process id (PPID column)
[19:14] <Kingsy> hmmm I don't think I understand rsync... say I have a folder like this   /hello/anotherfolder/file.bin    and then I sync it to another drive..  then I move file.bin to   /hello/file.bin and resync will it delete and do a rull resync? move the files around to match? or just copy the file again so I will have two copies in the sync drive?
[19:14] <ichbinder> h00k: besides building it from source... :)
[19:14] <designbybeck> ok the PPID shows 1 glebihan
[19:14] <tekk> hi! i have an lvm2 vol and its formatted as ext2, if i wanted to extend the size of the vol, do i simply add the new drive to the volume-group and then vgextend and then run resize2fs ?
[19:15] <urlin2u> Kingsy, beside the command line use there a gui apps like grsync, is one I use.
[19:15] <glebihan> designbybeck, then it's init, and you can't kill it, afaik your only option is a rebooot
[19:15] <Kingsy> urlin2u: well the question still applies for grsync
[19:15] <designbybeck> uh oh!... Ok, thanks for your help glebihan
[19:15] <glebihan> designbybeck, you're welcome
[19:15] <designbybeck> I'll reboot
[19:15] <Pici> Kingsy: Unless you're specifying --delete it will not delete the file, but it won't move the files on the remote side, it will re-copy.
[19:16] <LABcrab> Hello everyone!  i'm back, and last time, we were trying to boot an Ubuntu ISO on a computer that can't boot from floppy, CD or USB.
[19:16] <urlin2u> Kingsy, yes,
[19:16] <Kingsy> Pici: ah.. so thats the best way of keeping a direct copy?
[19:16] <Pici> Kingsy: I'm not sure what you mean by 'direct copy'.
[19:16] <lonewulf`> aeon-ltd, thank you very much!!!
[19:16] <Kingsy> Pici: everytime I press sync, I want the sync drive to be EXACTLY the same as the source
[19:17] <urlin2u> LABcrab, what's up?
[19:17] <Polah> LABcrab: You could mount the contents of the ISO on another partition and then boot that partition using GRUB
[19:17] <calwig> xrdodrx: I cant seem to understand why the mousepad works but not the scroll bar
[19:17] <LABcrab> Polah: Yeah, but that requires a large enough partition.
[19:18] <Polah> LABcrab, only 700MB or so
[19:18] <ichbinder> h00k: any experience with it?
[19:18] <Kingsy> Pici: I don't really wanna have to format it each time.. I would prefer if grsync could keep it the same
[19:18] <urlin2u> LABcrab, only big enough for the ISO's
[19:18] <Pici> Kingsy: Then use -avz --delete
[19:18] <Kingsy> Pici: ahh you just specify --delete.. sorry I got ya
[19:18] <Kingsy> Pici: thanks :)
[19:18] <Pici> Kingsy: np
[19:19] <Polah> LABcrab: Make a partition for the ISO and then make your swap partition deliberately smaller than it should be, then once you have Ubuntu installed you can remove the partition with the installer and extend the swap into that space
[19:20] <LABcrab> Polah: Well, mine's only 400 MB.  Too bad my swap wasn't bigger.
[19:20] <LABcrab> i don't think you can edit a mounted partition.
[19:20] <Polah> LABcrab: You can unmount your swap temporarily to expand it
[19:20] <LABcrab> urlin2u: What kind of ISO is 400 MB!?
[19:21] <LABcrab> Polah: But how?  The HDD with the lots of space is mounted.
[19:21] <Polah> LABcrab: Mounting a partition != mounting a hard drive.
[19:22] <urlin2u> LABcrab, many are well below, I was just saying the size needs not be much mote then the size of it.   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549847  helpful link.  You can also just remove the swap, to do this if needed.
[19:22] <Polah> LABcrab: You could even get the minimal ISO which is ~15MB or so and then build your system from the basics.
[19:23] <urlin2u> LABcrab, yuou could use a minimal ubuntu and do a net install minimal is like 12 mib
[19:23] <urlin2u> Polah, you beat me carry on.
[19:23] <LABcrab> Polah & urlin2u i'm on 3G and i would like the full system.
[19:24] <gridbag> How do you configure the screensaver? Everything I try fails to change the 10 minute default.
[19:24] <Polah> LABcrab: You can install the full system from minimal, it just requires a lot of packages being downloaded and installed rather than installed from the disk and just perhaps requiring an update
[19:24] <Monotoko> does anyone here use ZNC?
[19:24] <Polah> gridbag: System > Preferences > Screensaver
[19:25] <littletinybaby> Anyone know anything about OS virtualization?
[19:25] <fr500> yeah
[19:25] <Monotoko> littletinybaby, a little bit
[19:26] <Slart> !anyone | littletinybaby
[19:26] <littletinybaby> When I tried using virtual box it said my cpu wasn't capable of virtualization
[19:26] <fr500> what CPU?
[19:26] <littletinybaby> its a pentium 4 dual core
[19:26] <fr500> and yes, many CPUs don't have VT support
[19:26] <fr500> that means it would have to rely on software emulation
[19:26] <fr500> which is very very slow
[19:27] <littletinybaby> How do I find if it supports VT?
[19:27] <littletinybaby> If I wanted to buy a new one
[19:27] <fr500> look at the datasheets
[19:27] <littletinybaby> and what does VT stand for?
[19:27] <linuxuz3r> i think its virtualization
[19:27] <linuxuz3r> maybe im wrong
[19:27] <trions> littletinybaby: may be you would like to check in BIOS, I remember once toggling some VT settings there.
[19:28] <fr500> if you're shopping for current gen, ie: sandy bridge you want a non k i5 2000 series or i7 2000 series
[19:28] <tainted> anyone using pandora one right now?
[19:28] <pticochon> hi
[19:28] <urlin2u> LABcrab, I will say though that if you have no way of booting a cd or thumb after install, and have problems that can be fixed using one your in big trouble.
[19:28] <littletinybaby> gratzi
[19:28] <LABcrab> Polah: Can't you use an ISO instead?
[19:28] <fr500> littletinybaby: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_VT#Intel_Virtualization_Technology_for_x86_.28Intel_VT-x.29
[19:28] <Polah> LABcrab: What do you mean instead?
[19:28] <grendal-prime> this is probably a stupid question can i run a 64bit vm on a 32 bit host os?
[19:28] <pticochon> last time I installed Ubuntu GRUB overwrote my neosmart boot menu, do you think it'll happen again this time? if yes what can I do to prevent it from happening?
[19:29] <Polah> littletinybaby: Intel Ark has information can tell you the specs for all of Intel's processors. VT-x is the virtualisation technology for Intel's processors and AMD's is AMD-V
[19:29] <linuxuz3r> grendal-prime, in mac yes
[19:29] <lanceulot> oh it's too difficult theme (hello everybody ;). I tried to tune virtualization on my supported CPU. So, I have to say that there were a lot of problems with this :(
[19:29] <LarsN> When trying to start Apache2 I get the following message:
[19:29] <LarsN> apache2: could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using for servername
[19:29] <linuxuz3r> on ubuntu i dont know
[19:29] <urlin2u> pticochon, put grub in the ubuntu partition.
[19:29] <pticochon> ok
[19:29] <fr500> lanceulot: ??
[19:29] <pticochon> thanks urlin2u
[19:29] <LarsN> I have both an appropriate /etc/hosts entry, as well as a ServerName and ServerAlias directive in my <VirtualHost *:80> blocks
[19:29] <LABcrab> Polah: i thought the easiest way was to put the ISO image in GRUB, but that seems like a battle.
[19:30] <Polah> LABcrab: I believe GRUB can boot ISO images, but I don't know how to make it do so.
[19:30] <fr500> lanceulot: if you CPU supports VTd or VT-x it's all transparent
[19:30] <urlin2u> pticochon, use the something else option at where you want it and point grub to the Ubuntu partition, this is a custom install, and needs a bit more work there.
[19:30] <LarsN> Can someone point me to the magic fairydust I appear to have forgotten to sprinkle on apache to get it to work properly?
[19:30] <glebihan> LarsN, you might want ask in #httpd for that
[19:30] <urlin2u> Polah, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549847
[19:30] <tainted> anyone here using pithos?
[19:31] <Polah> LABcrab: Well, there you go, check out urlin2u's link
[19:31] <Polah> !ask | tainted
[19:31] <oCean> LarsN: most likely you don't have a properly configured FQDN in /etc/hosts
[19:31] <tainted> is pandora one down for anyone?
[19:32] <gridbag> Polah: don't work.
[19:32] <oCean> tainted: that has nothing to do with this channel, right?
[19:32] <Polah> gridbag: What doesn't?
[19:32] <LABcrab> i saw the French GRUB2 link, Polah, but i'll need Grub1.  Anyway, it will still be neat once i upgrade to Grub2.
[19:32] <gridbag> Polah, I set the screensaver time to 2.5 hours. My screen still goes blank after 10 minutes.
[19:32] <drhack> hola alguien hABLA ESPAÑOL
[19:32] <Polah> LABcrab: Why do you need GRUB1?
 It was about one year ago, maybe there's transparent in new versions of ubuntu? I remember it was some problems  to tune it correctly...
[19:32] <oCean> !es | drhack
[19:33] <LABcrab> Polah: That's what the computer has.  Also, can it boot from USB?
[19:33] <drhack> GRACIAS
[19:33] <Polah> gridbag: Preferences > Power management, display sleep time
[19:33] <gridbag> I need to go into singleuser mode, with NO X11, to install the new nvidia driver.  How do I do that? init 1 or init s still says "X11 still running".
[19:33] <fr500> lanceulot: nothing to tune, you just have the choice to use binary translation or hadrware assisted most of the time
[19:33] <urlin2u> tainted, works here.
[19:33] <Pici> gridbag: sudo service gdm stop
[19:34] <Polah> LABcrab: Oh, I'd upgrade to GRUB2 if I were you. GRUB doesn't handle USB booting, GRUB handles booting what is available on the drive it is on. USB/CD booting should be handled by your BIOS
[19:35] <stwange> I've got a dual monitor setup, with the laptop being the main monitor and another off to the right (not that it matters). I've set the configuration and it's fine, but every time I login (without fail), after about 6 seconds it reverts to showing the same image on both and changing the resolution on the laptop. How can I fix it?
[19:36] <calwig> xrdodrx: hi you there?
[19:36] <lanceulot> fr500, one more question about it, how to tune shared space with files, that you can use from any OC in virtualization? It one of this problems, "just transparent tuning from VM" isn't tune this
[19:37] <fr500> lanceulot: what virtualization software are ou using?
[19:37] <WHAT_UP> can someone explain to me why brasero goes [create checksum]/burn/[create checksum]/burn when i try to burn freebsd, and then the freebsd disk won't boot?
[19:38] <urlin2u> WHAT_UP, freebsd is multi disks
[19:38] <WHAT_UP> urlin2u: one dvd though
[19:38] <Jagajugue> WHAT_UP: dude use k3b, is much better
[19:38] <urlin2u> WHAT_UP, you might turn off the md5 in plugins
[19:38] <gridbag> Pici: 'service gdm stop' gives me "exec: 129: stop: not found"
[19:39] <lanceulot> something standart for ubuntu.. maybe virtualbox, I don't remember yet
[19:39] <urlin2u> WHAT_UP, isn't there a boot disc besides a dvd.
[19:39] <WHAT_UP> urlin2u: i don't mind that it checksums, but why two different burning cycles?
[19:39] <ubuntu_> priscilla
[19:39] <WHAT_UP> urlin2u: ... what... fml
[19:39] <fr500> lanceulot: anyway, Virtual Machines are stored as files if using VBox or VMware, I don't get your question about space
[19:40] <zykotick9> WHAT_UP, are you using Brasero?  There is a way to turn that annoying feature off, somehow.
[19:41] <SmellyCat> hi
[19:41] <urlin2u> zykotick9, plugins
[19:41] <zykotick9> urlin2u, yup
[19:42] <lanceulot> fr500, it creates a partition with all files of new OC, so, I haven't found a way to exchange files
[19:42] <WHAT_UP> urlin2u: the freebsd site says "The FreeBSD CDROM and DVD images are bootable and can be used to install FreeBSD without any other special preparation." Wouldn't this imply that the main dvd is bootable?
[19:42] <fr500> lanceulot: OC?
[19:42] <fr500> what do you mean with OC
[19:42] <fr500> OS?
[19:42] <Pici> WHAT_UP: That has nothing to do with Ubuntu. Please ask in a freebsd channel.
[19:42] <lanceulot> oh yeah, OS :D
[19:43] <dave__> hello
[19:43] <urlin2u> WHAT_UP, yes you are correct the dvd can do it all, as far as the install, check the md5 of that ISO.
[19:43] <lanceulot> I'm not englishman, so, I make a mistake :)
[19:43] <fr500> lanceulot: well it depends on the virtualization software and the OS
[19:43] <WHAT_UP> well, it kind of did, since i was trying to figure out if it's a problem with brasero or my installation method
[19:43] <fr500> lanceulot: if using VMware or virtualbox you can use shared folders. otherwise you might use SMB or NFS as if it was another PC
[19:44] <SmellyCat> I am trying to install Ubuntu 11.04 using the CD. I want to automatically partition an extra harddisk I have. I read about "guided" partitioning. But where is it?
[19:44] <WHAT_UP> urlin2u: the ways i found online of checking the md5 of a disk have never returned the same md5 as the iso i burned, but the md5s they return is consistent across different disks. any suggestions on how to check the disk?
[19:44] <tainted> urlin2u: are you subscribed with pandora one?
[19:44] <urlin2u> WHAT_UP, when I actually check I use this link. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[19:45] <Polah> SmellyCat, what do you mean "guided"?
[19:45] <LABcrab> What is the best way people to arrange my computer?
[19:45] <oCean> tainted: stop the offtopic talk please
[19:45] <Polah> LABcrab: The way you like the most.
[19:45] <urlin2u> tainted, yes but I checked the regular=no account as I never use it
[19:45] <lanceulot> fr500, I've tried to put my files into windows (VM) from ubuntu. I've tuned shared folders, so, It didn't work.
[19:46] <tainted> oCean: i'm trying to determine whether or not i have a ubuntu related issue
[19:46] <tainted> oCean: as the pandora service is working from my windows machine
[19:46] <oCean> tainted: then you should have provided the channel with those details
[19:47] <SmellyCat> guided partitioning will offer different partitioning schemes without having to manually create the partition..... at least that is what the documentation says
[19:47] <urlin2u> tainted, do you clear your browser in general, memory, cookies
[19:48] <bytesaber_work> wtf?  i just did an install of ubunut on a macbook (done it a million times), into a very specific partition.    First time 11.04.   Did it just replace my efi????
[19:48] <Polah> SmellyCat: Oh. When you start up the installer on a LiveCD it'll give you options like "Erase the disk and install Ubuntu", "Install Ubuntu alongside X" and suchlike. Just pick the one you want.
[19:49] <WHAT_UP> urlin2u: uh... i can't even read the dvd from ubuntu at this point... i put it back in the drive (brasero ejected it) and now it's doing cyclical 5 second spin ups and then stopping
[19:49] <stwange> I've got a dual monitor setup, with the laptop being the main monitor and another off to the right (not that it matters). I've set the configuration and it's fine, but every time I login (without fail), after about 6 seconds it reverts to showing the same image on both and changing the resolution on the laptop. How can I fix it?
[19:49] <Mcmuffin> UBUNTU IS FOR THE BLACKEST NIGGERS. AND CPMASTER CHOKES ON A FAT DICK WHILE SEAHORSE RAPES HIM!
[19:50] <anth0ny> hahaha
[19:50] <LxxV> I have a problem with very slow connection and I think it is because of my wifi driver, its ath9k. Is anyone able to help me solve this problem?
[19:50] <iDirk> Erh
[19:50] <stwange> male seahorses give birth, why would they rape anynoe?
[19:50] <littletinybaby> how do I find out what version of php I have installed?
[19:50] <Pici> stwange: thats enough.
[19:50] <SmellyCat> I am offered three options: Install alongside windows.... this does not allow me to select the disk I want to replace with fedora on it. Replace windows..... don't want that to, and manual..... and this makes me create the partitions manually.....
[19:50] <stwange> do php -v for the CLI version
[19:50] <oCean> stwange: don't comment on such stupidity please
[19:50] <WHAT_UP> littletinybaby: one way is phpinfo();
[19:50] <urlin2u> WHAT_UP, I have seen that happen, I use a couple of apps in this area, generally another works.
[19:50] <Polah> littletinybaby: php --version perhaps?
[19:50] <stwange> did I say anything out of line?
[19:51] <zykotick9> stwange, don't feed trolls
[19:51] <stwange> :)
[19:51] <urlin2u> WHAT_UP, also note that a burned ISO has to be checked differently then the ISO
[19:52] <WHAT_UP> urlin2u: yep. i noticed that
[19:52] <popinski> hi
[19:52] <WHAT_UP> urlin2u: the way i was doing it before was copying the disk to /tmp/something.iso and then md5ing the iso
[19:52] <WHAT_UP> urlin2u: but now i'll try "dd if=/dev/dvdrw bs=1 count=810356736 | md5sum" if it ever lets me
[19:52] <bytesaber_work> how do i boot ubuntu 11.04 as MBR/Bios not GPT/EFI on my macbook.   I don't want it to think i have EFI.
[19:53] <popinski> i want to update my firefox to ff 3.6 but my ff says it uptodate
[19:54] <glebihan> popinski, what version do you have ?
[19:54] <aeon-ltd> popinski: ubuntu version?
[19:54] <popinski> 3.0
[19:54] <popinski> lol
[19:54] <SmellyCat> btw what is better to choose ext3 or ext4?
[19:54] <popinski> its on back track
[19:54] <edxs> Hi, how do you quit Vinagre?
[19:54] <WHAT_UP> urlin2u: restarting for a sec
[19:54] <aeon-ltd> popinski: can't help you man....
[19:54] <oCean> popinski: not supported here
[19:55] <aeon-ltd> !backtrack | popinski
[19:55] <glebihan> popinski, back track isn't supported here
[19:55] <popinski> its ubuntu based
[19:55] <edxs> Or access the gui preferably...
[19:55] <stwange> every so often (about once a week or two weeks), when I boot up my laptop (running Natty) it repeatedly gives: kernel: [   82.589114] sky2 0000:04:00.0: eth0: Link is down  / kernel: [   84.199986] sky2 0000:04:00.0: eth0: Link is up at 100 Mbps, full duplex, flow control both.  If I init 6, it doesn't fix it, but if I init 0 then power up again it does. Any idea?
[19:55] <aeon-ltd> popinski: point is you need to update your repos or get a ppa to get latest firefox, not even sure if ubuntu has ff6 yet
[19:56] <auronandace> !info firefox | aeon-ltd
[19:56] <glebihan> aeon-ltd, it does. even ff7 if you want
[19:57] <aeon-ltd> glebihan: official repos
[19:57] <oCean> aeon-ltd: ff6.0 yes
[19:57] <popinski> umm well how do i get a repos or ppa
[19:57] <popinski> ?
[19:57] <oCean> popinski: stop asking here
[19:57] <aeon-ltd> !ppa | popinski
[19:57] <oCean> aeon-ltd: he's on BT, that's not supported here
[19:58] <popinski> ocean stfu
[19:58] <aeon-ltd> OT statement, i know it's to filter users and prevent miscomms but why don't people just help anyway
[19:58] <hidensoft> hi
[19:58] <oCean> aeon-ltd: that would mean we should provide support for *everything* We don't we concentrate on ubuntu
[19:58] <bazhang> aeon-ltd, too many derivatives, they do things differently, lets move on
[19:59] <aeon-ltd> oCean: no i mean if you *can* help and know for sure, you could save time and just say it there and then
[19:59] <stwange> I've got two issues making relying on Ubuntu a bit of a mission. The first one is related to the dual monitor setup resetting itself shortly after login (within a matter of seconds), the second is related to my eth0 link constantly disconnecting until I init 0 and boot up again. Please let me know if you can help
[19:59] <aeon-ltd> especially in times of little activity
[19:59] <SixEch0> is there a way to change the ubuntu icon used in the upper lefthand corner of 11.04?
[19:59] <oCean> aeon-ltd: if you wish to discuss channel rules, please do so in #ubuntu-ops, not here
[19:59] <aeon-ltd> ok
[19:59] <bazhang> aeon-ltd, feel free to join the backtrack channel to support him
[20:00] <hidensoft> i install ubuntu today , and when i trying to install compiz manager desktop manager  crashed , now im login with safe mode , anyone can help  me ?
[20:00] <urlin2u> hidensoft, installing the manager is okay tweaking compiz is another.
[20:00] <edxs> The documentation mentioned how to toggle fullscreen,  but not how to get out of it.
[20:01] <stwange> edxs, toggle means "turn on or off"
[20:01] <stwange> well, it means change the state of it
[20:01] <edxs> I read both the community ubuntu docs and the gnome stuff, but I couldn't find any description of keyboard shortcuts.
[20:02] <hidensoft> urlin2u, ok its ok but i cant use default desktop , i see blank page without any toolbar
[20:02] <edxs> Stawange: sorry, by "it" I meant the application itself.
[20:02] <WHAT_UP> okay. brasero is out. trying to burn this with k3b now, and hoping for better results (i think this is the 3rd or 4th time i tried burning the same iso)
[20:02] <hidensoft> so , i install compiz but my problem its not solved
[20:02] <hidensoft> i remove *
[20:03] <urlin2u> hidensoft, have you changed any settings in compiz, and what is your goal here the cube?
[20:03] <stwange> try pressing ctrl + alt edxs?
[20:03] <LABcrab> People, i'm really frustrated.  Can someone help me with my ISO booting steps please?
[20:03] <hidensoft> urlin2u: yes after i change some setting its happened
[20:03] <edxs> Stwange: thanks a bunch!
[20:03] <stwange> np
[20:03] <urlin2u> hidensoft, and what do you want using it \?
[20:04] <hidensoft> now i don't wanna use that , i just want to repair or something
[20:04] <hidensoft> i can't use default desktop , i should use safe mode
[20:05] <Jordan_U_> LABcrab: Start by explaining what you're trying to accomplish and what resources you have available.
[20:05] <urlin2u> hidensoft, so if you can better explain the problem, why you installed the manager it will be easier to help you.
[20:05] <stwange> have you tried removing compiz-fusion hidensoft?
[20:05] <hidensoft>  did you have any idea ? i remove compize completely
[20:06] <grendal-prime> is it possible to upgrade from a 10.04_x86 to 10.04_x86_64 ?
[20:06] <iceroot_> grendal-prime: no
[20:06] <zykotick9> grendal-prime, reinstall i'm affraid
[20:06] <urlin2u> grendal-prime, nope
[20:06] <iceroot_> grendal-prime: only reinstall
[20:06] <grendal-prime> I mean like i throw the disk in and....grrr bummer
[20:06] <stwange> I've got two issues making relying on Ubuntu a bit of a mission. The first one is related to the dual monitor setup resetting itself shortly after login (within a matter of seconds), the second is related to my eth0 link constantly disconnecting until I init 0 and boot up again. Please let me know if you can help
[20:07] <LABcrab> Jordan_U_: Install 11.04 on a PC with 9.10 that won't boot from CD or USB or floppy.
[20:07] <hidensoft> urlin2u : i use this tutorial : http://www.kartook.com/2009/11/how-to-remove-compiz-from-ubuntu/
[20:07] <genii-around> LABcrab: Can it boot from the ethernet adapter?
[20:08] <hidensoft> compiz removed but i don't know , why i have blank page , i need to reinstall ?
[20:08] <LABcrab> genii-around: Possibly?
[20:08] <urlin2u> hidensoft, that is for a much older release what Ubuntu os installed on your computer
[20:08] <ichbinder> building lpsolve from hand using their default bash script ccc works for linking. Seems like the Ubuntu package was modified and not build with colamd support...
[20:08] <hidensoft> urlin2u: 11.4
[20:09] <urlin2u> hidensoft, that link will break your system, compuiz is part of the desktop in 11.04
[20:09] <genii-around> LABcrab: If so then you can hook it to another computer which is running a pxe server and boot it that way
[20:09] <urlin2u> hidensoft, have you tried the classic desktop?
[20:09] <LABcrab> genii-around: Doesn't seem to show Ethernet booting.
[20:10] <hidensoft> urlin2u: now i'm using classic desktop in safe mode , another desktop won't work
[20:10] <genii-around> LABcrab: Hm. Give me a minute
[20:10] <urlin2u> hidensoft, so you understand that, that link is not for your install.
[20:11] <stwange> hidensoft, try reinstalling it? apt-get install compiz compiz-core compiz-gnome
[20:11] <dbolser> hello
[20:11] <hidensoft> stwange : ok
[20:11] <stwange> hello there dbolser
[20:11] <dbolser> when I first installed my webcamworked fine
[20:11] <dbolser> hello stwange
[20:12] <glebihan> urlin2u, is compiz really required ? I mean, you can still run metacity
[20:12] <dbolser> now skype can't find my webcam... I wonder if I uninstalled some key library by mistake?
[20:12] <Jordan_U> LABcrab: First create a menu entry following this template: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/Loopback.cfg#How_do_you_use_a_loopback.cfg_to_boot_an_iso.3F and add it to /etc/grub.d/40_custom then run "sudo update-grub". If the entry doesn't work then try upgrading to the grub-pc and grub-common packages from Ubuntu 10.04.
[20:12] <genii-around> LABcrab: I would suggest to visit http://rom-o-matic.net/gpxe/gpxe-1.0.1/contrib/rom-o-matic/ and get it to make you a boot floppy for your brand of NIC. Then you boot to floppy, which then in turn tries to boot from the ethernet
[20:12] <dbolser> what package can I use to test my webcam
[20:12] <bazhang> dbolser, cheese
[20:12] <stwange> dbolser, cheese webcam booth, apt-get install cheese if it's not already installed
[20:13] <genii-around> LABcrab: If this works, then you could follow instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[20:13] <urlin2u> glebihan, I think in unity it sits on top of gnome or whatever, the bot knows.
[20:13] <ichbinder> where can I report a bug for liblpsolve55? Couldn't find anything directly, only https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+package/liblpsolve55-dev
[20:14] <urlin2u> glebihan, the link they are using is for jaunty.
[20:14] <dbolser> bazhang, stwange: ty
[20:14] <glebihan> urlin2u, I know that link is outdated, I was just curious whether compiz really was required
[20:15] <Pici> ichbinder: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lp-solve
[20:15] <jpw1391> hey I just tried to resume my laptop from a suspension and it resuspended 4 times in a row after 3-6 secs with the screen fully diplaying my desktop every time
[20:15] <jpw1391> i'm using pm-utils
[20:15] <dbolser> No device found # cheese
[20:16] <dbolser> I don't know what happened, because it worked before
[20:16] <urlin2u> glebihan, I suspect a graphic driver situation is under the problems, but communication is nominal.
[20:16] <shamess1> Using my remote server, I tried to install the openjdk java package, but it just stopped responding half way through. I tried restarting the server, but now it's completely unresponsive. Anyone know what my next steps should be..?
[20:16] <bytesaber_work> where's the "advanced" button for 11.04?   I need to specify things about the boot loader.
[20:17] <urlin2u> bytesaber_work, what are you actually trying to do?
[20:17] <ichbinder> Pici: thanks!
[20:17] <JoeR1> I would like to change the icon used for the applications menu on my panel, How would I do this?
[20:18] <dbolser> so how do I probe for my webcam?
[20:18] <dbolser> how do I install teh drivers?
[20:18] <glebihan> bytesaber_work, I don't think there's an "advanced" button anymore (at least not on normal installation CD)
[20:18] <bytesaber_work> urlin2u, tell it to just put grub on the first sector of the partition only.
[20:18] <dbolser> I can't look at dmesg while I plug it in / out, cus it's in my laptop
[20:19] <glebihan> JoeR1, are you using gnome or unity ?
[20:19] <bytesaber_work> it wiped out my EFI of my macbook and i've fixed that.   Now going back to reinstall but i can't specify where exactly i want it to place grub
[20:19] <JoeR1> gnome
[20:19] <urlin2u> bytesaber_work, do you have a older computer with limitations on the HD sizw being read.
[20:19] <zykotick9> JoeR1, for Gnome run "alacarte" then click the displayed icon and you can browse for a new one
[20:19] <bytesaber_work> glebihan, normal cd?
[20:19] <bytesaber_work> urlin2u, no
[20:19] <jpw1391> anyone know how to rune executable .jar files using the java command in terminal?
[20:19] <stwange> dbolser, try sudo modprobe uvcivdeo
[20:19] <Jordan_U> bytesaber_work: You don't want it to install grub to a PBR. You should always install grub's boot sector to the mbr, even on macs.
[20:19] <glebihan> JoeR1, then right-click the launcher, select "properties" and change the icon from there
[20:19] <stwange> dbolser, try sudo modprobe uvcvideo *
[20:19] <bytesaber_work> urlin2u, i do multi boots
[20:20] <bytesaber_work> Jordan_U, no
[20:20] <JoeR1> glebihan, zykotick9 thanks, I will look into both
[20:20] <dbolser> Module uvcivdeo not found.
[20:20] <urlin2u> bytesaber_work, are you using another bootloader to boot?
[20:20] <bytesaber_work> Jordan_U, multi boot setup
[20:20] <bytesaber_work> urlin2u, yes
[20:20] <DrDamnit> I need to connect to an RS232 serial port over a USB / Serial connection/ adapter. What is the package I need to connect to the serial port?
[20:20] <zykotick9> jpw1391, "java -jar foo.jar" i think
[20:20] <dbolser> stwange: and now it should work?
[20:20] <Jordan_U> bytesaber_work: What bootloader is in the mbr?
[20:20] <urlin2u> bytesaber_work,which one
[20:20] <emergencyuse> Hello
[20:20] <jpw1391>  zykotick9 that works thank you!
[20:20] <bytesaber_work> rEFIt boots multiple linux installs just fine.   I just need to tell 11.04 where to put grub like i normally do
[20:20] <dbolser> stwange: same error, no device found
[20:20] <bytesaber_work> Jordan_U, rEIFt
[20:21] <Jordan_U> emergencyuse: Hi, welcome to #ubuntu!
[20:21] <bytesaber_work> Jordan_U, rEFIt
[20:21] <emergencyuse> Jordan_u: thanks'
[20:21] <bytesaber_work> urlin2u, refit
[20:21] <Jordan_U> bytesaber_work: rEFIt is not stored in the mbr. Installing grub to the mbr will not damage rEFIt in any way.
[20:21] <urlin2u> bytesaber_work, have you installed yet?
[20:21] <salvatore> hello everybody, i got a problem with my internet connection. I've got 2 computers (one ubuntu 11.04 other windows 7) in a room and wifi router in other room. I've got a wide difference in power of wifi signal...windows 7 machine is -50% ubuntu -85%.... might i set something with my network card?
[20:22] <bytesaber_work> Jordan_U, sigh.... i know what i'm doing.  My question is.  How do I tell 11.04 to place grub on the partition boot sector only.
[20:22] <bytesaber_work> urlin2u, no
[20:22] <urlin2u> salvatore, don't believe the signal amounts
[20:22] <aaas> are ssh tunnels established on the client or the server
[20:22] <dbolser> salvatore: they may measure different
[20:22] <bytesaber_work> the 11.04 installer seems to be missing heaps of installation features i normally expect
[20:23] <emergencyuse> i used ndiswrapper (well, ndisgtk throught the software center) and use the right driver for my atheros ar5b97, but then i rebooted and now I can't get the option to connect to a wireless network
[20:23] <salvatore> ok but performance are different also!
[20:23] <Jordan_U> bytesaber_work: To be perfectly blunt, you do not appear to understand that rEFIt is not stored in the mbr, and installing grub (or any bootloader) without an embedded area is not reliable.
[20:23] <dbolser> salvatore: how do you measure?
[20:23] <urlin2u> bytesaber_work, Jordan_U is more knowledgeable here, but if you choose the something else at the wher you want to install in the installgui you can put grub in Ubuntu;s partition.
[20:23] <emergencyuse> I have no internet right now
[20:23] <calwig> xrdodrx: were you able to figure anything out on the paste?
[20:23] <JoeR1> zykotick9, glebihan -Oh thank you both, that turned out better than I could have hoped
[20:23] <salvatore> airodump
[20:23] <emergencyuse> on my ubuntu
[20:24] <glebihan> JoeR1, you're welcome
[20:24] <zykotick9> JoeR1, glad to hep
[20:24] <salvatore> for ubuntu machine
[20:24] <urlin2u> salvatore, of course they are different operating system, signal makes no difference.
[20:24] <SixEch0> question: is there a way to change the ubuntu logo in the top left of my screen?
[20:24] <bytesaber_work> Jordan_U, GPT/MBR hybrid drive.  I treat all x86 isntalls as BIOS style with emulation.     How do I tell 11.04 how to isntall grub into the first boot sector only?
[20:24] <SixEch0> using 11.04 btw, so unity
[20:25] <salvatore> ok but performace? sometimes with ubuntu machine i cannot start connection
[20:25] <JoeR1> Also, is there a program to switch my background automatically at intervals?
[20:25] <bytesaber_work> Jordan_U, .  Ok i have a typical computer.   Bios only.   I made 3 partitions.     I use my own bootloader in the MBR.   How do I tell 11.04 to only install grub to /dev/sda3
[20:25] <Jordan_U> bytesaber_work: I don't remember where that option is off the top of my head, and I highly recommend installing grub's boot sector in the mbr.
[20:26] <glebihan> JoeR1, have a look at http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Create+Background+Slideshow?content=125710
[20:26] <urlin2u> bytesaber_work, in the install choose something else the is a dropdown there for grub placement
[20:26] <bytesaber_work> Jordan_U, if i put grub in the emulated mbr, i'll have an extra detect OS from rEFIt and it's unessary.   chainloads fine.
[20:26] <SixEch0> i take it unity won't let me change the ubuntu icon in the application area
[20:27] <JoeR1> thank you again glebihan, I shall do so immediately
[20:27] <Jordan_U> bytesaber_work: You will only have an extra detected OS if you have a bootloader installed in the PBR of the partition, which you shouldn't.
[20:27] <bytesaber_work> urlin2u, i'm in the install menu.  just can't find anything that lets me *shrug*
[20:27] <bytesaber_work> Jordan_U, thanks.
[20:27] <glebihan> JoeR1, you're welcome again :)
[20:27] <Jordan_U> bytesaber_work: I have a mac with Ubuntu installed and grub installed to the mbr, with only one entry shown for Ubuntu from rEFIt.
[20:27] <Jordan_U> bytesaber_work: You're welcome.
[20:28] <bytesaber_work> Jordan_U, but still.   you aren't asnwering the question.    you seem to care more about how i'm handling multi boots.   All i want to know is how to direct a grub install to a specific partiton like any linux distro installer.
[20:28] <salvatore> is there a way to capt more signal?
[20:28] <Jordan_U> bytesaber_work: I know that option exists, I don't remember where.
[20:28] <JoeR1> glebihan, I hate to keep bugging you but I keep hearing people talk about unity, what is it? Is it perhaps a desktop enviroment?
[20:28] <bytesaber_work> Jordan_U, k,  i'll keep looking and googling.
[20:29] <bytesaber_work> seems like less and less advanced features are available every ubuntu release
[20:29]  * nuno_nunes goedenavond
[20:29] <glebihan> JoeR1, yes it runs on top of gnome and is the default interface in ubuntu 11.04
[20:29] <aaas> bytesaber_work: other installers have that?  I would expect that feature to only be used by a small percentage of users, aka, not in the installer
[20:29] <glebihan> !unity | JoeR1
[20:30] <bytesaber_work> bytesaber_work, gates would be proud of that statement
[20:30] <glebihan> JoeR1, and you're not bugging me, I'm here to help :)
[20:30] <aaas> bytesaber_work: why don't you just boot up and partion it yourself
[20:30] <bytesaber_work> aaas, it is partitioned
[20:30] <urlin2u> bytesaber_work, if your in the install you geta gui that asks where to install Ubuntu choose, something else in the next gui is a grub dropdown, and you choose the partiton to install to reactivate the partition and put / as the mount.
[20:30] <bytesaber_work> i need the installer to place grub where i desire
[20:30] <Jordan_U> bytesaber_work: The alternate install CD uses the classic Debian Installer.
[20:31] <aaas> bytesaber_work: well maybe it's there, I don't know, but you can expect the installer to have every bell and whistle out there
[20:31] <Mimoso98> Hi all
[20:31] <aaas> bytesaber_work: if lots of people use it then maybe it hsould be
[20:31] <JoeR1> glebihan, well I suspect because I am using straight Xubuntu that my xfce supersedes unity, indicated by my desktop contextual menu that I am told is indicative of xfce
[20:31] <aaas> bytesaber_work: if not, then get it out of there and let the advanced users find a way
[20:32] <BobSapp> uhhh i totally messed up my xconfig and drivers
[20:32] <BobSapp> and my x sessions
[20:32] <Mimoso98> Is there any good server software for multi-way synchronization files between remote locations? We have two offices, one in Europe and another one in USA. Both offices need to share the same files, but locally.
[20:32] <bytesaber_work> What's so "advanced" about an option like this??   http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xUx1a0MzWFo/Tj-10-K7QuI/AAAAAAAAAyI/Wm4MV0mToHs/s1600/Ubuntu-Boot-Repair+%25284%2529.png
[20:32] <bytesaber_work> all i want to do is choose /dev/sda3
[20:33] <aaas> bytesaber_work: what percetage of people use it?
[20:33] <aaas> bytesaber_work: thats the question
[20:33] <glebihan> JoeR1, didn't you say you were running gnome ?
[20:33] <BobSapp> Mimoso98: that sounds like dropbox
[20:33] <bytesaber_work> aaas, why does it matter?   it's linux.  not windows and osx.   this is an advanced community.
[20:33] <BobSapp> alternatively you can use unison
[20:33] <aaas> bytesaber_work: oh no it's not
[20:33] <BobSapp> but you have to be careful about who can use what
[20:33] <urlin2u> bytesaber_work, click the grub drop down and point it at the sda3 partion
[20:33] <aaas> bytesaber_work: have you been in this irc room
[20:33] <BobSapp> and make updates
[20:33] <Mimoso98> BobSapp, exactly! but we want a private DropBox in our servers...
[20:33] <bytesaber_work> urlin2u, where is the menu??  it's not in the installer anymore is what it's looking like.
[20:33] <BobSapp> Mimoso98: what servers are you running?
[20:34] <glebihan> bytesaber_work, as pointed out by Jordan_U, I think you now need the alternate install CD to be able to do what you want to
[20:34] <bytesaber_work> aaas, didn't know "the worlds most popular linux distro" meant i wasn't allowed to ask normal questions of the past 15 years.
[20:34] <urlin2u> bytesaber_work, notice the grub syas sda and two small arows pointing up and down click it.
[20:34] <Dr_Willis> bytesaber_work:  i thought i saw where to install grub as one of the last dialogs during install gotten to via an 'advanced' button. for the noirmal installer. I use it when i install to usb flash drive.
[20:34] <bytesaber_work> so why's it been removed?
[20:34] <JoeR1> glebian - I did say that but I did so because 99 times out of a hundred anything gnome specific seems to be just fine for me, and yes I realize that trend may not continue
[20:34] <aaas> bytesaber_work: oh come on you know i never said that
[20:35] <urlin2u> bytesaber_work, it hasn't been your having a blond moment bro
[20:35] <bytesaber_work> urlin2u, i googled that image.  this is what used to be available.   It's not in 11.04 far as I can tell.
[20:35] <aaas> bytesaber_work: what it does mean is that they are trying to design accessible installers
[20:35] <Mimoso98> Location USA has a Windows Server machine, with several network units to store information. EU office so far needs to connect to a VPN tunnel provided by USA in order to access those folders. In EU we have a Ubuntu server for some tasks. We wonder if there is a software we can install at US and at EU that will sun US's folders into the EU server, so European guys can access them locally without the need of using the VPN any m
[20:35] <Mimoso98> ore.
[20:35] <aaas> bytesaber_work: maybe it is an impoortant feature but then submit a bug report
[20:35] <urlin2u> bytesaber_work, hmm is on mine every install do, the image is not correct for natty though.
[20:35] <JoeR1> glebihan, I mean, no matter what this is still a gnome based os I believe.
[20:36] <Mimoso98> * that will update
[20:36] <jaybee_> Hi all - I have a 3tb drive, which shows up as 3tb when plugged into SATA, but 801.6GB when plugged into USB
[20:36] <bytesaber_work> urlin2u, right.  it's not form natty.  it's from an older ubuntu.   that's why i'm asking.  where the heck did it go?
[20:36] <glebihan> JoeR1, xfce is not based on gnome, unity is gnome (well a shell for gnome)
[20:36] <BobSapp> Mimoso98: yeah unison will do that.
[20:36] <Mimoso98> a kind of midnight update or something like that
[20:36] <jaybee_> Is there any way to get the full size on USB?
[20:36] <stwange> I've got two issues making relying on Ubuntu a bit of a mission. The first one is related to the dual monitor setup resetting itself shortly after login (within a matter of seconds), the second is related to my eth0 link constantly disconnecting until I init 0 and boot up again. Please let me know if you can help
[20:36] <urlin2u> bytesaber_work, do you get to a where you want to install ubuntu with a something else option?
[20:36] <Mimoso98> BobSapp, is Unison stable and serious?
[20:36] <BobSapp> just have it run periodically it will automatically calculate the files that have been updated and download them
[20:36] <bytesaber_work> glebihan, i can try that.  i guess i just am surprised that this feature is now considered "advanced".  it's too normal of an expected option durring installation to me.
[20:36] <BobSapp> Mimoso98: uhhhhh yes?
[20:36] <Dr_Willis> jaybee_:  check sudo fdisk -l output, could be some app is just reporting it wrong.
[20:37] <Mimoso98> BobSapp, Unison is the only option in Linux/UBuntu?
[20:37] <JoeR1> glebihan, you misunderstand, I did not mean that xfce is gnome based but rather that Ubuntu (which is still very much the core of my OS even if I got it as straight Xubuntu) is gnome based
[20:37] <bytesaber_work> urlin2u, it lets me choose a parition, but only followed by format (yes/no) and then commiting the install.   Doesn't seem i get to choose where the boot loader goes.
[20:37] <BobSapp> Mimoso98: if you want something that IT people will already know use rsync and just take a copy down
[20:37] <BobSapp> unison is nice though since it only copies the stuff that was updated
[20:37] <urlin2u> bytesaber_work, look below that manin screen is the grub drop down.
[20:37] <dialtone> hi, I'm having some issues with ubuntu 11.04 and disk usage in EC2
[20:37] <BobSapp> so you can afford to run that more often
[20:38] <BobSapp> like every 2 hours
[20:38] <dialtone> specifically if I run df I see that
[20:38] <dialtone> /dev/xvda1            9.9G  5.0G  4.5G  53% /
[20:38] <jaybee_> Dr_Willis, both of those figures are as erported by fdisk
[20:38] <Mimoso98> BobSapp, ok thanks man!
[20:38] <BobSapp> it also stops if there is a conflict (2 files updated since the last sync(
[20:38] <dialtone> but when I run du -h --max-depth=1 from the / I see this:
[20:38] <dialtone> 1.7G.
[20:38] <Dr_Willis> jaybee_:  weird.  not heard of that happening befor,
[20:38] <glebihan> JoeR1, Ubuntu in itself is not gnome-based, you can run whatever desktop environment you want on it (and even not have a single gnome-related package installed)
[20:38] <stwange> try max-depth 2
[20:38] <stwange> or du -sh /*
[20:39] <glebihan> JoeR1, gnome is just the default desktop environment for ubuntu
[20:39] <JoeR1> glebihan, ah, very well, my mistake
[20:39] <urlin2u> bytesaber_work, get to that something else gui, before clicking on the partition to be installed then take a screenshot I will give you a gigantic arrow pointing at what you want.
[20:39] <stwange> glebihan, isn't unity the default?
[20:39] <dialtone> stwange: -sh /* doesn't report anything differently
[20:39] <danslo> DID I SERIOUSLY JUST DO THAT? daniel@ubuntu:~$ rm -rf ~/
[20:39] <danslo> :(
[20:39] <bytesaber_work> urlin2u, >: )  looking
[20:39] <glebihan> stwange, unity runs over gnome (it's just a shell for gnome)
[20:39] <dialtone> likewise for --depth=2
[20:40] <Jordan_U> !danger
[20:41] <diego> :)
[20:41] <stwange> dialtone, is du aliased to something else or non-standard?
[20:42] <dialtone> stwange: nope, even if I run it with full path
[20:42] <dialtone> also, this eventually reaches 100%
[20:42] <dialtone> a reboot and it goes back to 14%
[20:42] <dialtone> it's like disk space released is not reclaimed by the OS
[20:42] <calwig> hi, does anyone know why psmouse is loaded but the scroll bar isnt working? on ubuntu 8.04?
[20:43] <stwange> dialtone, it's possibly not - if the files are still in memory they'll still contribute. install lsof and then lsof | grep -i deleted
[20:43] <calwig> it was working before I loaded ubuntu on a different box and since then the mouse works but not the scroll bar
[20:43] <dialtone> stwange: empty
[20:44] <Dr_Willis> calwig:  you mean scrhroll wheel on the mouse?
[20:44] <Arilyn> so that would mean
[20:44] <stwange> is /tmp or /var/tmp filling up?
[20:44] <Arilyn> nudes or not.it's still think ionknight is kon because a good
[20:44] <Dr_Willis> !8.04
[20:44] <dialtone> /var/tmp contains 4K according to du, /tmp contains 256MB according to du
[20:45] <wildbat> dialtone: do a fsck may be ?
[20:45] <Arilyn> thou she may also wanted 2 do you know
[20:45] <bazhang> !ot | Arilyn
[20:45] <dialtone> wildbat: does it work with the system online?
[20:45] <RonaldJ> Hello all. How can I make Joomla part of the default repository too. Same as Wordpress and Drupal. The Big Three.
[20:46] <stwange> The big three contributors to compromised servers?
[20:46] <wildbat> dialtone: it should ~ any system need a fs and that fs can become corrupted .
[20:47] <urlin2u> bytesaber_work, you find it?
[20:47] <bytesaber_work> urlin2u, it's not there
[20:47] <bytesaber_work> natty?
[20:47] <zodiak> hey guys and gals, random question, anyone ever managed to get ssh to use google as an end auth ?
[20:47] <dialtone> wildbat: I'm just asking because it always caomplains that the filesystem is mounted
[20:47] <dialtone> anyway running it with -n I see a lot of:
[20:47] <dialtone> Inode 24578 was part of the orphaned inode list.  IGNORED.
[20:47] <urlin2u> bytesaber_work, your on a live desktop cd right?
[20:48] <calwig> Dr_Willis: on the notebook, the scroll side
[20:48] <wildbat> !fsck | dialtone
[20:48] <Arilyn> sudo apt-get install irssii'
[20:48] <bytesaber_work> urlin2u, ya.  x64 11.04 desktop iso
[20:48] <grendal-prime> Ok guys im installing a 64 bit 10.04 has anyone had any negative experiences with this?
[20:48] <Arilyn> i got on 64 megs...
[20:48] <calwig> Dr_Willis: It has always allowed me to scroll, zoom in/out. Now for some reason, Im sure this module did not load. I can use the mouse pad fine. just cant scroll anywhere
[20:48] <Arilyn> which is why would you need to just load that stat
[20:48] <RonaldJ> stwange why so negative. It is just a question.
[20:48] <Arilyn> anyone had any negative experiences with the i smoke a few minutes
[20:48] <dialtone> ubottu: I know what fsck is though
[20:48] <Arilyn> dialtone: do a fsck may be ?
[20:48] <SixEch0> can you change the distributor logo int the top left corner in 11.04?
[20:48] <derek__> I'm having trouble with a pen tablet and pressure sensitivity
[20:48] <Arilyn> coz i can see how to know that you can change them to .cbz because most of the others join and the fun to see any changes to add a channel ya don't think so its alright.
[20:48] <bazhang> Arilyn, please stop that
[20:48] <FloodBot1> Arilyn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:49] <urlin2u> bytesaber_work, hit install when you get to the where to install, choose something else take a screenshot of the next screen and imagebin it.
[20:49] <Dr_Willis> calwig:  it would be a X config setting , to be honest - that release is so old.. you should look into upgradeing. I dont even recall if that one uses the xorg.conf or auto configures everything.
[20:49] <dialtone> there has been no clean/unclean shutdown
[20:49] <dialtone> this machine has 5 days uptime and it was started 5 days ago
[20:49] <Arilyn> hmm let me get a work in the fuck is this channel started working on one thing at a bios usually helps if you gentoo guys im installing a x config setting your binds in the bots.
[20:50] <genii-around> !language | arif-ali
[20:50] <genii-around> Apologies, meant for the user which was already removed
[20:50] <dialtone> in 5 days it used 30% of disk space without a file actually doing it, I understand it's possibly fixed with fsck but I can't really run fsck every 2/3 weeks because the servers fill up like this
[20:50] <dialtone> also this has never happened before the last 2 releases of ubuntu
[20:51] <stwange> dialtone, I'd be more interested in why du isn't working. Can you get a copy from source and see if it's the same? It could be a compromised binary
[20:54] <grendal-prime> ! flash
[20:54] <dialtone> stwange: I'm rebuilding coreutils
[20:56] <calwig> Dr_Willis: it does use xorg.conf. Also I cant use a new release. Im running Ubuntu on a USB stick. And this release is the only one that Boots to a Live CD
[20:57] <calwig> Dr_Willis: all other versions do not boot or have some error at startup. However using that same DVD on another computer works just fine. I have no idea.
[20:59] <dialtone> agh
[20:59] <dialtone> stwange left, anyway the du built from source reports the same numbers
[20:59] <mega1> Is there any way to get ubuntu server 10.04 to auto get updates and reboot at 4am every day
[20:59] <Fuchs> yes, with cron
[20:59] <MrNthDegree> crontab -e
[21:00] <kingofswords> hi does xpadder work with wine?
[21:00] <dialtone> mega1: that's one of the most dangerous things I've seen though
[21:00] <derek__> Does anyone know about 64 bit drivers? I installed the Wizardpen driver and it made my mouse not work at all.  Did I somehow default to 32 bit, or does this matter
[21:00] <Fuchs> mega1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[21:00] <Fuchs> mega1: prepare on the machine not coming up one day, I do hope that you have physical access
[21:00] <mega1> Dialtone why
[21:01] <MrNthDegree> because reboots can mess up
[21:01] <MrNthDegree> especially if a bad update happens
[21:01] <calwig> Dr_Willis: think im gonna google this, you may be right
[21:01] <xrdodrx> mega1, why would you need to reboot daily?
[21:02] <grendal-prime> like...flash on 64 bit machines is that a total bitch?
[21:02] <Dr_Willis> grendal-prime:  from what i hear in here.. no. it should work.
[21:02] <PDunny> Anyone know of a way to connect to a upnp with lxde?
[21:02] <Dr_Willis> grendal-prime:   you mean 32 or 64bit flash.. 32bit has always worked for me. on 64bit ubuntu.
[21:02] <grendal-prime> oh well cool
[21:03] <xrdodrx> PDunny, the channels #lxde and #lubuntu might be of better help than this one
[21:03] <MrNthDegree> grendal-prime, using 64-bit Flash is fine
[21:03] <Dr_Willis> PDunny:  you need some sort of media player to connect to a upnp media server. likd boxee, xbmc, vlc (i think) or others.
[21:03] <MrNthDegree> grendal-prime, and 32-bit Flash can be wrapped by nspluginwrapper
[21:03] <mega1> Xrdodrx I was told that is the best way to keep it clean
[21:03] <Mimoso98> ANY thing equal for MySQL?
[21:04] <grendal-prime> so there is 64 bit flash?  See i was under the impression that it just didnt exist..wich...kinda blows me away really
[21:04] <Dr_Willis> Mimoso98:  clarify that question.
[21:04] <Mimoso98> Having 2 different Mysql servers in two network locations, but a database must be synced
[21:04] <xrdodrx> mega1, Linux is not Windows, my Ubuntu server has been on for 25 days as of right now. Reboots souldn't do anything to improve your performance unless your system is poorly configured
[21:04] <Dr_Willis> grendal-prime:  been 64bit flash for ages...
[21:04] <MrNthDegree> grendal-prime, there is 64-bit Flash, it's on labs.adobe.com
[21:04] <Mimoso98> any software for that?
[21:04] <MrNthDegree> grendal-prime, it's a BETA
[21:04] <MrNthDegree> grendal-prime, ironically Linux was the first platform to get 64-bit Flash ;p
[21:05] <Mimoso98> Location A: a MySQL server    Location B: another MySQL server, ? I want to have the same database in both locations but synced. Is there any software for Ubuntu server for that?
[21:05] <lagreca> hi! is it possible to install unity on debian?
[21:05] <lagreca> is unity available in debian repositories?
[21:06] <kingofswords> when i search in youtube nothing happens...could this be  a gui/xorg problem?
[21:06] <Dr_Willis> lagreca:  ask in #debian perhaps. should  be 'possible'
[21:06] <bazhang> lagreca, ask in #debian
[21:06] <cordoval> hi guys working on a kata demo for you all but need the best way to record video on my screen
[21:06] <cordoval> anyone knows the best higher quality best solution for ubuntu desktop recording
[21:06] <cordoval> I need it asap
[21:06] <Dr_Willis> !info gtk-record-mydesktop
[21:06] <Dr_Willis> i spelt it wrong.
[21:06] <PDunny> !info upnp
[21:06] <xrdodrx> !info gtk-recordmydesktop
[21:07] <xrdodrx> Dr_Willis, :)
[21:07] <cordoval> is that the best?
[21:07] <cordoval> I need the best
[21:07] <cordoval> quality and speed
[21:07] <Dr_Willis> cordoval:  you need one that works....
[21:07] <xrdodrx> cordoval, "best" is a matter of opinion, feel free to try them out and decide for yourself
[21:07] <Dr_Willis> and as far as i know.. thats the only one. :)
[21:07] <Dr_Willis> If theres any others.. ive not seen them
[21:07] <cordoval> thanks, no options?
[21:07] <xrdodrx> Dr_Willis, there's istanbul, gtk-recordmydesktop, a few other ones, and VLC can do that as well
[21:08] <xrdodrx> I also think mencoder can
[21:08] <Dr_Willis> cant say ive ever seen istanbul
[21:08] <Dr_Willis> !info istanbul
[21:08] <Dr_Willis> vlc - would prob take some learning to get it going. :)  so it all depends on your needs i guess..
[21:09] <cordoval> I have heard kazam
[21:09] <cordoval> any feedback on it? the best only
[21:09] <xrdodrx> cordoval, :|
[21:09] <Spitfire19> what's the best way to copy a LiveUSB from one USB stick to another? Would simple copy/paste via GUI work?
[21:09] <Dr_Willis> cordoval:  get over your 'best' fixation. there is no 'best'
[21:09] <bazhang> !best | cordoval
[21:09] <mega1> Xrdodrx that's what I though but I have change a config file unto 3times a day and some it needs to reboot so I was told the best way is to set it to reboot once a day
[21:09] <Dr_Willis> Spitfire19:  ive used dd for that befor.   you dont want touse the gui.
[21:09] <bazhang> !screencast > cordoval
[21:10] <Spitfire19> Dr_Willis: dd?
[21:10] <Dr_Willis> Spitfire19:  yes.. thats a core command to do data image dumps and other data duplication.
[21:10] <Dr_Willis> Spitfire19:  use it WRONGLY and you an delete a hard drive with a single typo. :)
[21:10] <xrdodrx> mega1, I'm sorry? I don't understand what you're saying :(
[21:10] <illsci> hey how do you tell the version of ubuntu server you're in from inside the os?
[21:10] <Dr_Willis> !version | illsci
[21:10] <xrdodrx> illsci, open a terminal and type lsb_release -a
[21:11] <illsci> thanks
[21:11] <Spitfire19> Dr_Willis: ok, the liveUSB is a running Ubuntu and my standard install is Win7. What's the easiest way to do it in that situation?
[21:12] <Dr_Willis> Spitfire19:  you want to duplicate the live usb , while using windows?
[21:12] <Spitfire19> more or less. Lets call it a "Distributable LiveUSB".
[21:13]  * nuno_nunes vai ali a ver uma cena e já volta
[21:13] <Dr_Willis> Spitfire19:  check out windows soruces/chanels for dd for windows, or other usb copy utils then. if you are doing it while in windows.
[21:14] <Jordan_U> Spitfire19: What is your end goal?
[21:15] <orated> Even after following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto , I cannot see cpu rpm nor voltages. How to fix it?
[21:15] <Spitfire19> this gives a general idea: http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=19424
[21:15] <Spitfire19> of what I'm trying to do.
[21:16] <Spitfire19> I want to be able to copy a LiveUSB of Ubuntu (while running Windows most likely) and place it on another physical usb stick.
[21:16] <shohan> can someone explain please.............................is there any way to block the adds load on my website...i hosted a website on a addfree hosting but they r putting adds on my site.....................so is there any script or any way so that when my page will load it can block those adds.........
[21:17] <Jordan_U> Spitfire19: Why can't you just use unetbootin or some other tool to create your LiveUSB?
[21:17] <Spitfire19> shohan: wouldn't that be breaking the ToS of the hosting site?
[21:18] <iceroot_> shohan: no only the browser can block it it the popups are coming from the domain-call
[21:18] <Spitfire19> Jordan_U: I'm creating them using the Universal USB installer at the moment
[21:18] <shohan> the thing is....there r some hosting saying add free host but when i installed wordpress i m getting some adds
[21:18] <iceroot_> shohan: #wordpress
[21:18] <shohan> i know it might be stupid to ask like this but they r lying to me too
[21:18] <Jordan_U> Spitfire19: And what is wrong with that method?
[21:18] <shohan> so if is there any way to block them from the web
[21:19] <shohan> i use firefox eith adblock.....but i want to kow if it is possible or not to load a script in my site to block those adds
[21:19] <Spitfire19> The goal is to install a program to the liveUSB and then simply distribute the liveUSB with the program on it already configured
[21:19] <iceroot_> shohan: its not ubuntu-related. find out from where the adds are comming (domaincall, wordpress)
[21:20] <Spitfire19> I don't know if Universal Installer is capable of doing that, and if it is I don't know how.
[21:20] <mang0> Gnight all!
[21:21] <Jordan_U> Spitfire19: It's a bit wasteful space wise but you could distribute Universal USB installer and the iso on the USB. I'm working on a tool (For Windows and Linux) that would actually set up the USB drive to loop boot the iso using grub2 so there would be no wasted space. But I have no idea when (or even if) I will finish it.
[21:23] <urlin2u> Jordan_U, have you looked at the multisytem, usb loader, for info?
[21:24] <urlin2u> multisystem*
[21:25] <Jordan_U> urlin2u: I hadn't seen that before. Thanks.
[21:25] <urlin2u> Jordan_U, killer tool. ;-)
[21:26] <al-sindi> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[21:27] <Spitfire19> Jordan_U: you are right, it would be resource intensive. Are there any sites that would even host the massive file size? 2-4GB
[21:27] <cordoval> downloading kazam
[21:27] <cordoval> sounds like the best
[21:27] <cordoval> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kazam
[21:28] <Dr_Willis> Spitfire19:  you  could image the live-usb - then clone ot to other usb's via dd or other ways..
[21:28] <Dr_Willis> Spitfire19:  4gb isent massive these days. :)
[21:28] <Spitfire19> Dr_Willis: over internet it can be. What free service would host files that large. (That's also not a torrent)
[21:29] <Dr_Willis> Spitfire19:  ubuntu one has a 5gb  alloctment now.
[21:29] <Dr_Willis> no idea on others.
[21:29] <Jordan_U> Spitfire19: You wouldn't ever host the completed USB, you'd host the iso and the installer and have people use the installer to setup the USB to be bootable. There is no way around having an installation step when creating bootable USBs.
[21:30] <Dr_Willis> but a dd 'image' would be limiting in ways. ie: the user would have to dd it to a flash to use it.. and it would use up all the flash. even f it was a 8+ gb flash.
[21:30] <Spitfire19> I guess its going to take some work.
[21:30] <Dr_Willis> Its all in the details...
[21:30] <bytesaber_work> urlin2u, graphic prob.  found it.  right where you'd expect it to be.
[21:30] <urlin2u> bytesaber_work, cool I new it was there. ;-)
[21:30] <Spitfire19> The people who would be using the software would likely be having dedicated to the application anyways.
[21:30] <bytesaber_work> urlin2u, >: )  thanks
[21:31] <Spitfire19> As it will be running a Folding@home client.
[21:31] <urlin2u> bytesaber_work, no problem.
[21:31] <Dr_Willis> Spitfire19:  seems like a lot of work for a client that has native versions for most os's
[21:31] <kohai_> i've been having problems on 11.04 with hard freezes in Unity... has anyone reported similar and how are you troubleshooting?
[21:31]  * nuno_nunes de volta
[21:32] <urlin2u> kohai_, what is your cpu and memory?
[21:32] <philip_> I'd like to install multiple versions of an application/package, without overwriting. During compile I'd alter prefix. How can we do this with dpkg or similar?
[21:32] <ZAL---> hi all
[21:32] <ZAL---> !help please
[21:33] <kohai_> @urlin2u 2.6.38-11-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 29 19:02:55 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:33] <Dr_Willis> ZAL---:  and the question is?
[21:33] <marek_> Then i make a BASH script, What she-bang is best to use? "#!/bin/bash" or "#!/usr/bin/env bash"
[21:33] <ZAL---> yes.. I accident remove /etc/apache2
[21:33] <kohai_> i7 w/ 4gb mem
[21:33] <ZAL---> how to reinstall apache2
[21:33] <urlin2u> kohai_, the chip speed and the ram amount
[21:33] <Dr_Willis> marek_:  most likely wont matter.  the 2nd is more 'generic' for differnt disrtos.
[21:33] <bytesaber_work>  "#!/bin/bash"    *shrug*   all i ever use
[21:34] <ascott_tainer> ZAL: apt-get install apache, or yum install apache
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> ZAL---:  the package manager has 'reinstall' option for the various packages.
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> yum? heh...
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> apt-get install --reinstall foobar
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> i think.
[21:35] <ascott_tainer> oh, yeah, this is ubuntu channel, not linux channel. ;)
[21:35] <ZAL---> T_T i try
[21:35] <urlin2u> kohai_, anyway I would look at whats running with htop, or top, or install a conky, to begin with.
[21:35] <Dr_Willis> ascott_tainer:  you mean readhat channel :)
[21:35] <ascott_tainer> Dr_Willis, indeed. I did. I stand corrected.
[21:36] <kohai_> urlin2u, yep, did that, it's a hard freeze with VirtualBox open, kills the keyboard, all system processes, ctrl-alt-f2 doesn't let me shell out.
[21:36] <ZAL---> apt-get install --reinstall apache2  <-- works.. but still -bash: cd: /etc/apache2: No such file or directory
[21:36] <Dr_Willis> ZAL---:  you sure thats the right dir name?
[21:37] <ZAL---> perhaps T_T
[21:37] <urlin2u> kohai_, when your running the virtual what is the process use amount, conky is a good tool for seeing that with the right one
[21:37] <Xplodingpiglets> may I have a commant to kill firefox?
[21:37] <Xplodingpiglets> *mommand
[21:37] <Xplodingpiglets> *command
[21:37] <Dr_Willis> ZAL---:  so this whole thing stems from you not being able to find a directory you think should be there? or did you delete it at one time by mistake?
[21:37] <bytesaber_work> oh goodie.  he's a new question you'll love.       This one might be harder to explain.      Ubuntu uses grub2.   Grub2 supports EFI or good old BIOS like usual.    My macbook can handle booting both.   Ubuntu 11.04 detected my EFI and did an EFI style install.   But that's limiting for driver support.  especially nvidia graphics.     How do I lie to the installer, so that it thinks i'm a regular bios?
[21:38] <urlin2u> Xplodingpiglets, killall firefox
[21:38] <kohai_> urlin2u, typically about 30-40%, memory is restricted to 1GB. I'll try putting conky up and see if I can get it to freeze again with nothing over the readout
[21:38] <Xplodingpiglets> thanks
[21:39] <ZAL---> hmm... I'll try use locate or find.. but I think apache2 default should /etc/apache2
[21:39] <ZAL---> sorry but im using ubuntu lucid ltsp server
[21:39] <urlin2u> kohai_, how much memory do you have
[21:39] <glebihan> ZAL---, yes apache2 should have a /etc/apache2 folder
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> ZAL---:  so you removed it at one time?
[21:39] <ZAL---> yes
[21:40] <lookingforanswer> Can i have someone's attention please?
[21:40] <kohai_> 4gb
[21:40] <kohai_> i7 and 4b
[21:40] <gswallow1> Hey everyone, really dumb question here, I think.  I'm trying to get Ubuntu 10.04.2/3 to install over PXE on an HP BL460g7.  This is some ServerEngines/Emulex network card.  The only driver that I've found that works, however, is the one distributed with Maverick.  I understand there's a way to install the Maverick kernel on Lucid OS?
[21:40] <linuxrealm> ZAL---:  the basic reinstall is:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall apache(version)
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> !find /etc/apache2
[21:40] <lookingforanswer> I used ndiswrapper (well, ndisgtk throught the software center) and used the right driver for my atheros ar5b97, but then I rebooted and now I can't get the option to connect to a wireless network. How can I fix this? Is there a system restore like windows? Acer Aspire 5552 laptop, Ubuntu 11.04 "Natty Narwhal"
[21:40] <drifter_m> -rwxrwxrwx 1 www-data root 20 2011-08-23 21:28 index.php -< the permissions for my index.php file in ubuntu on an amazon ec2 instance. anyone be able to help me on troubleshooting why that wont executre?
[21:40] <drifter_m> http://46.137.121.49/
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> perhaps its apache2.2-common you need ZAL---
[21:41] <lookingforanswer> I need help please!
[21:41] <Jordan_U> !ask | lookingforanswer
[21:41] <ZAL---> apache2.2-common is already the newest version.
[21:41] <glebihan> ZAL---, reinstall it
[21:41] <lookingforanswer> I used ndiswrapper (well, ndisgtk throught the software center) and used the right driver for my atheros ar5b97, but then I rebooted and now I can't get the option to connect to a wireless network. How can I fix this? Is there a system restore like windows? Acer Aspire 5552 laptop, Ubuntu 11.04 "Natty Narwhal"
[21:41] <Dr_Willis> ZAL---:  open up the .deb thats in /var/cache/  and see if the dir/files are in it. :)
[21:41] <lookingforanswer> Is there like a system restore on ubuntu?
[21:42] <kohai_> urlin2u 4GB and an i7 processor
[21:42] <Jordan_U> lookingforanswer: No.
[21:42] <zykotick9> lookingforanswer, nope
[21:42] <urlin2u> kohai_, check to see f your driving the ram to use the swap, you can change the swappiness to get more flash ram used, I use a sdhc card for my swap, never freezes, it the swap is used.
[21:42] <lookingforanswer> Is there a way to fix my problem i mentioned earlier?
[21:42] <urlin2u> if
[21:43] <ZAL---> ok.. guys thanks you very much... it solved my problem
[21:43] <lookingforanswer> I used ndiswrapper (well, ndisgtk throught the software center) and used the right driver for my atheros ar5b97, but then I rebooted and now I can't get the option to connect to a wireless network. How can I fix this? Is there a system restore like windows? Acer Aspire 5552 laptop, Ubuntu 11.04 "Natty Narwhal"
[21:43] <ZAL---> remove purge and apt-get install --reinstall apache2 apache2.2-common
[21:43] <ZAL---> thank you all
[21:43] <kohai_> urlin2u i'll put top up as well, thanks for the tip
[21:44] <Jordan_U> lookingforanswer: Is this a USB or internal wireless card?
[21:44] <lookingforanswer> Internal wireless card
[21:44] <lookingforanswer> @Jordan_u
[21:44] <Jordan_U> lookingforanswer: Atheros cards don't generally require ndiswrapper. Why did you install ndiswrapper?
[21:45] <lookingforanswer> i was getting poor speeds, often around 20-30 kbps
[21:45] <lookingforanswer> where my speed on windows is usually 1-2 mbps
[21:46] <al-sindi> can any body help me to restore boot??? My ubuntu is not starting at all!!!!!!!!
[21:46] <JoeR1> Does anyone have the Torchwood login screen files from Gnome-look, the links are broken so I can't ge them right now.
[21:46] <Jordan_U> al-sindi: Please lose the extra punctuation. What happens when you try to boot?
[21:47] <lookingforanswer> Jordan_u: Poor (20-30kbps) speed as opposed to 1-2mbps
[21:47] <al-sindi> Jordan_U: it show boot0: error
[21:47] <exxoduss> русские есть?
[21:47] <glebihan> !ru | exxoduss
[21:48] <Jordan_U> al-sindi: That error isn't coming from Ubuntu.
[21:48] <lookingforanswer> I have no option to connect to a wireless network
[21:48] <lookingforanswer> after rebooting
[21:48] <al-sindi> So how can i boot my system?? :!
[21:49] <al-sindi> Jordan_U how can i boot my system ?? I don't see any options??
[21:49] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> al-sindi: What do you want to boot?
[21:49] <Pegasus_RPG> hi there. I'm installing from the mini CD image on a USB stick and want it to pull packages from a second USB stick with an lubuntu install image. How can I do that? (My internet connection is slow)
[21:49] <Jordan_U> al-sindi: Re-install grub and don't mess around trying to build a hackintosh.
[21:50] <shaneo> lol hackintosh
[21:50] <lookingforanswer> Jordan_U?
[21:50] <xinfamousx> how can i make windows 7 be the default OS in grub 2 menu
[21:50] <xinfamousx> so when the 7 seconds pass windows 7 will be the os loaded and not ubuntu
[21:50] <Jordan_U> al-sindi: And again, please stop with the extra punctuation.
[21:51] <al-sindi> Jordan_U: I got in my system windows 7, Mac snowleopard 10.6.8, Ubuntu 11.04
[21:51] <Jordan_U> lookingforanswer: The error message he's getting is from a failed hackintosh setup, not from Ubuntu.
[21:51] <Pegasus_RPG>  #hackintosh ? :)
[21:51] <lookingforanswer> Jordan_U: I know, i was wondering if you could tell me what to do to fix it
[21:52] <al-sindi> Jordan_U my snowleopard is working well only ubuntu and windows 7 aren't booting
[21:52] <Jordan_U> lookingforanswer: I would recommend trying to uninstall ndiswrapper and use the native drivers. File a bug report about the speed if you still have issues with that.
[21:52] <bazhang> al-sindi, is this an apple computer?
[21:53] <Jordan_U> bazhang: No, it's not (or he wouldn't get that error).
[21:53] <lookingforanswer> Jordan_U: I uninstalled it but I still have no option to connect to a network
[21:53] <bazhang> al-sindi, stop asking for help here please, it's not an ubuntu issue
[21:53] <lookingforanswer> And I don't know how to use the old drivers instead
[21:53] <al-sindi> bazhang: No its not, but snow leopard is working well for me
[21:54] <al-sindi> bazhang I am not asking about mac,
[21:54] <al-sindi> bazhang: I get error MBR 2
[21:54] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> sorry al-sindi, noone is gonna help you here.
[21:55] <Jordan_U> al-sindi: Re-install grub to the mbr and Ubuntu should work again. That may break booting of OSX but we don't support illegal activities here.
[21:55] <urlin2u> xinfamousx, read very carefully,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10340183#post10340183
[21:56] <al-sindi> Jordan_U Okay but how?? Ubuntu isn't working at all
[21:56] <al-sindi> Jordan_U: should I use live usb ???
[21:56] <Jordan_U> al-sindi: Follow these instructions to re-install grub from a LiveCD/USB: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot
[21:56] <smtail> Hi . SOrry I have a newbie question?
[21:56] <urlin2u> smtail, ask it.
[21:56] <bl4ckcomb`> smtail, that's you question?
[21:57] <Chti_Beur> yop all
[21:57] <urlin2u> xinfamousx, whatever you do, don't install startup manager if told to.
[21:58] <xinfamousx> urlin2u, will do thanks ;)
[21:58] <smtail> I have attempted to install ubuntu 11.04 on to 2 seperate hard disks now. The install goes fine, and then at the end I am asked to remove the CD, and press enter which I do, then I get "Hard DIsk Error. DISK BOOT Failure. Insert system disk and press enter"
[21:59] <genii-around> smtail: Have you removed all extraneous USB storage things?
[21:59] <xinfamousx> smtail, Did you attempt to install ubuntu on both HDD's or just one?
[21:59] <urlin2u> smtail, run this script and pastebin the text from the RESULTS.text
[21:59] <Chti_Beur> on m'insulte si je parle francais?
[21:59] <urlin2u> smtail, http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[21:59] <smtail> i only had a wireless dongle. which i have removed now
[21:59] <h00k> !fr | Chti_Beur
[22:00] <Chti_Beur> thx !
[22:00] <Chti_Beur> ahah
[22:00] <xinfamousx> the dongle should've not affected anything
[22:00] <al-sindi> Jordan_U: I don't get GNU Grub options
[22:00] <smtail> I attempted to install on both hard drives because some q&a said it might be disk failure
[22:01] <Jordan_U> al-sindi: After following the instructions I linked you to you will get a grub menu at boot.
[22:02] <megalinux> oi
[22:02] <h00k> !away > klebers
[22:02] <al-sindi> Jordan_U: Okay I'll gonna try and pray!!!!!!!!
[22:02] <al-sindi> Bye for now
[22:03] <megalinux> oiiii
[22:03] <smtail> how do you use pastebin :-) Sorry full of the simple ones tonight
[22:03] <glebihan> !paste | smtail
[22:03] <h00k> smtail: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com - paste your text there, hit text, and send the link to it (address bar)
[22:03] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> smtail: just go to pastebin.com, and do your thing
[22:04] <urlin2u> smtail, if you run that bootscript we will be much more likely to be able o help, without tons of questions and guessing
[22:04] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> There is also a Chrome extension you just click, and it will create a paste
[22:04] <megalinux> jsdqprfdqejwf
[22:07] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Is there any way to restore any <stdout> from /dev/null?
[22:07] <iceroot_> MAREK_BENC_NetB: no
[22:08] <JoeR1> I have a custom login theme I wish to install but I do not know how
[22:09] <urlin2u> JoeR1, are you familiar with burg?
[22:09] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> JoeR1: Modern Ubuntu has GDM3, wich is unthemable, GDM(2) was themable
[22:10] <xinfamousx> i don't like some of the modern changes that were made to ubuntu
[22:10] <JoeR1> urlin2u, No I am not
[22:10] <xinfamousx> they removed alot of good things
[22:10] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> xinfamousx: That's why i switched to Debian and FreeBSD
[22:11] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> and Xfce
[22:11] <JoeR1> MAREK_BENC_NetB, perhaps you know how I can check my GDM version . . .It seems like I know how to check but I'll be a monkey's uncle because I sure can't remember
[22:11] <urlin2u> JoeR1, here is a install link but it is a choice of themes for boot app.  http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/linux-distributions/linux-distributions4-ubuntu/1679-how-to-install-burg-in-ubuntu-
[22:12] <urlin2u> JoeR1, I assume your running Natty the link is for Natty
[22:12] <JoeR1> urlin2u, and I assume I willl be able to add my own?
[22:12] <xinfamousx> MAREK_BENC_NetB,  neverheard of either, i'm new to linux so i'm not familiar with other distros
[22:12] <JoeR1> urlin2u, I need numbers, I do not know the animal names associated with different releases
[22:12] <Jordan_U> JoeR1: urlin2u: BURG is not for login screens but for the boot menu, and is not supported here.
[22:12] <urlin2u> JoeR1, not with burg, and otherwise not sure, a good way to brick your boot though is messing with it.
[22:12] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Lol, FreeBSD is not a distro, it's it's own complete OS, and Ubuntu is based on Debian
[22:13] <urlin2u> Jordan_U, cool
[22:13] <JoeR1> urlin2u, fear not, I am much more competent than my knowledge of linux expresses and if I screw the boot I can just wipa and start again
[22:14] <manisabri> Hi , after today updates I'm unable to use X . any way ro rollback the updates?
[22:14] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Nope
[22:14] <urlin2u> JoeR1, I missed the login part my bad. ;-(
[22:14] <manisabri> I'm on 11.04 64bit
[22:14] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> You can try to Remove X, and install it again
[22:14] <JoeR1> urlin2u, no harm no foul
[22:15] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop
[22:15] <prodigel> hi there. Is anyone familiar with bind? I've configured one domain for it, but I'm not sure how to check it.
[22:15] <urlin2u> JoeR1, if you bricked the boot in a seperate incident I doubt you would have to reinstall.
[22:15] <manisabri> ok , tnx , I'll try that
[22:16] <JoeR1> urlin2u, the point is I have yet to break this os bad enough to keep me from being able to fix it
[22:16] <manisabri> how should I install it again? sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop?
[22:16] <glebihan> MAREK_BENC_NetB, removing ubuntu-desktop won't do anything, it's a meta-package
[22:16] <manisabri> uh
[22:16] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> try to remove just xorg
[22:17] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> sudo aptitude remove xorg
[22:17] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Or even better
[22:17] <urlin2u> JoeR1, cool.. ;-) thats great.
[22:17] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> sudo dpkg ==purge xorg* xserver*
[22:17] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> *--purge
[22:18] <manisabri> there is  something to do with the today updates , may be if I find a log of the installed updates then I can uninstall the updates from synaptic? , X is working in failsafe mode.
[22:18] <manisabri> any idea where the logs are?
[22:19] <napoleaoVI> i am trying to install ubuntu on my macbook pro 6.2 it give a black screen before the installation begin, I have google, and it says to disable framebuffer by typing nofb, can someone explain please how to that before the CD starts?
[22:19] <manisabri> yeah I tried removing and installing xorg.  not working
[22:20] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> napoleaoVI: Try the alternatove installer
[22:20] <ocanne> #ubuntu-fr
[22:20] <urlin2u> napoleaoVI, try holdng down shift at the power on at the try ubuntu...etc hit f6 choose nomodeset then boot.
[22:21] <napoleaoVI> ok will do, thanks you 2 for the help
[22:21] <xinfamousx> MAREK_BENC_NetB,  is either of them noob friendly?
[22:21] <hellhammer> My volume in ubuntu 10.04 isnt working i cant mute or adjust the sound whats going on?
[22:21] <urlin2u> hellhammer, have you right clicked the sound icon-sound preferences.
[22:22] <manisabri> any idea where the ubuntu updater logs are?
[22:22] <hellhammer> no?
[22:22] <cristian_c> Hi
[22:22] <cristian_c> I would like to operate the keys with the keyboard wireless media desktop
[22:22] <cristian_c> I connected everything and used the KeyTouch program to configure the keys
[22:23] <Jordan_U> manisabri: /var/log/dpkg.log
[22:23] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> xinfamousx: Nope. They are for advanced people. But a Ubuntu guy should have no problem getting used to Debian
[22:23] <cristian_c> I found this wiki page at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyTouch
[22:23] <cristian_c> from the back of the keyboard you can see that this is the model Media Wireless Desktop (Y-RAC66) while on the wiki, including keyboards is supported Media Wireless Desktop (Y-RAE68)
[22:23] <cristian_c> I selected it from keytouch, and not all the keys worked
[22:24] <cristian_c> but following the keytouch editor manual, I opened Keytouch Editor to make the keyboard supported
[22:24] <cristian_c> The nice thing is that keytouch editor recognizes perfectly all the keys on the keyboard and and suggests the default and right actions for each key
[22:24] <cristian_c> added to the list all keys I saved the keyboard file called labtec_mwd_yrac66_kbd. At this point I open keytouch again to select the new keyboard introduced in the database. I choose it and try to set the keys
[22:24] <cristian_c> as the first test I set the mail key (but remember I tried other keys), choosing the program to use and the field is filled with evolution - component = mail
[22:25] <cristian_c> And then I press Ok or Apply, but in both cases if I press the key, the computer goes into standby (and of course then asks me the password to unlock it), instead of opening evolution. Even if I fill out the field only with the string 'evolution' the same thing happens
[22:25] <cristian_c> Why with keytouch editor is the keyboard recognized and with keytouch not? How can I find a solution?
[22:32] <smTail> hi. Just about to pastebin  the results of my boot script
[22:33] <smTail> Here's the path
[22:33] <smTail> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/673408/
[22:33] <Jasonn> Anyone got some questions
[22:33] <Jasonn> ?
[22:34] <smTail> How to get ubuntu booting without giving me hard disk Error
[22:34] <Dogears> How do I view syslog in 11.04?
[22:34] <smTail> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/673408/
[22:35] <urlin2u> smTail, did you ever post that script?
[22:35] <luite> has anyone here tested a macbook pro 8.x with kernel 3.1rcX? does the wifi work now (without ndiswrapper)?
[22:35] <smTail> This is the first time urlin2u
[22:35] <Jasonn> smTail: did you edit the file?
[22:35] <Monotoko> luite, I'm guessing the wifi won't work unless Apple make a driver for Linux
[22:35] <smTail> no
[22:35] <Monotoko> which I doubt they will
[22:36] <luite> Monotoko: it's a broadcom chipset, there have been commits for that model in the driver
[22:36] <Jasonn> smTail: What did you do for it not to work?
[22:36] <smTail> I just tried to install 11.04 on an old IDE disk
[22:36] <Monotoko> luite, you will have to try it...the worst that can happen is a roll back
[22:36] <luite> Monotoko: but apple always seem to "customize" things, so I thought I'd check here first :)
[22:36] <smTail> It installed okay
[22:36] <Jasonn> smTail: Boot into livecd, and test the disk for errors
[22:37] <luite> Monotoko: I don't have one yet, but I might get a good deal on one in a few days, but it should work with ubuntu
[22:37] <smTail> but when I restarted I got the message Hard DIsk Error, DISK Boot Failure , Insert system disk and press enter
[22:37] <xinfamousx> i hate grub 2 they made so damn difficult to do or removed some of the things that grub 1 did easily
[22:37] <smTail> what command should I use to check for errors
[22:37] <Dr_Willis> grub2 does things grub1 couldent do... :)
[22:38] <Jasonn> smTail: Open up the prog: Disk Utility
[22:38] <xinfamousx> i'm about to just install an older version of ubuntu
[22:38] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> xinfamousx: You can remove Grub 2 and install grub-legacy with no problem
[22:38] <xinfamousx> MAREK_BENC_NetB, how can i do this?
[22:39] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Wait, i must get my resources
[22:39] <xinfamousx> i was told that i couldn't 2 days ago
[22:39] <urlin2u> smTail, you have the natty cd right?
[22:39] <xinfamousx> MAREK_BENC_NetB, sure
[22:39] <Dr_Willis> xinfamousx:  its in the package manager... you may have to watch out for isues.. but its doable
[22:40] <Dr_Willis> or you could try to fix your r grub2 issues.. but  do what you want.
[22:40] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> sudo apt-get install grub
[22:40] <xinfamousx> Dr_Willis, what sort of issues can i encounter
[22:40] <designbybeck> I have a Dell Mini Netbook with Ubuntu 11.04. In Screensaver, I have the check turned of to not require a password, but it always makes me put on in when the screen saver comes on
[22:40] <designbybeck> Is there a manual override?
[22:40] <Dr_Willis> xinfamousx:  no idea. i imagine there can be a posibility for uissues.. theres a reason the switch was made for grub2
[22:41] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Dr_Willis: It's just that Grub2 has More features, not that Grub-legacy is buggy
[22:41] <smTail> The disk is good
[22:41] <Dr_Willis> MAREK_BENC_NetB:  grub1 had bugs :) but it was more of a general code clean up, modular redesign and getting past old limitations...
[22:42] <smTail> but /dev/sda1 doesn't appear to be mounted?
[22:42] <Dr_Willis> but i will stick with grub2 for the foreseable future.
[22:42] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> I use lilo
[22:42] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> LILO FTW!
[22:42] <Dogears> Hi! How do I view syslog?
[22:42] <soreau> ! lilo
[22:43] <Dr_Willis> I will avoid lilo whenever possible...
[22:43] <urlin2u> smTail, follow this li k to reload grub to the mbr using the booted Ubuntu natty cd read carefully. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy%20LiveCD%20Files
[22:43] <coz_> MAREK_BENC_NetB,  you realise lilo has fewer options from what I remember?
[22:43] <xinfamousx> well there are a number of issues that i'm having with grub 2 but the biggest one for me (which i asked around here 2 days ago) was the editing of the grub2 boot menu which i'm told that with grub 2 it's impossible. i like everything on my pc to be organized so i hate not being able to rename the entries and change the order around.
[22:43] <urlin2u> smTail, the script is correct it should be booting, but sometimes grub needs to be reloaded to the mbr.
[22:44] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Lilo is all what i need
[22:44] <polifasio> Dr_Willis: lilo can work even when the partition where the configuration file is, is hosed up
[22:44] <Dr_Willis> polifasio:  so, :)
[22:44] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> I want to Load Linux, That'S exactly what LiLo does
[22:44] <Dr_Willis> thats a pro and a con.. heh
[22:46] <urlin2u> xinfamousx, lots of info here and other wiki's. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Upgrading
[22:47] <urlin2u> xinfamousx, if you can't get ove the limitations in messing with grub, you might want to seek professional help. ;-)
[22:47] <urlin2u> over
[22:47] <antnash> can anyone tell me how I search through subdirectories for files with a certain string in their name, then remove that part? I'm assuming the removing part will just be done with mv
[22:47] <smTail> Thanks I'll give it a go
[22:48] <zykotick9> MAREK_BENC_NetB, Lilo - lol what is this 1995 ;)
[22:48] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> It's still in the Alternative installer and Mini.iso
[22:48] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> As an option
[22:49] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> And Slack uses it as it's boot loder
[22:49] <urlin2u> lilo is a excellnt ms booter
[22:49] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> s/loder/loader
[22:50] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> ms? Wut's dat?!
[22:50] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> MySpace?
[22:51] <urlin2u> MAREK_BENC_NetB, if you run into a person who has removed the grub OS and has no MS disc lilo works fine
[22:51] <xinfamousx> urlin2u, something like that shouldn't bother me but for some reason i hate it, it bugs the hell out of me for some reason.
[22:51] <urlin2u> xinfamousx, no it shouldn't ;-)
[22:51] <Iamred> 1. Nigel have you taken her up the shitbox yet?
[22:51] <Iamred> 2. Yes I bent her over my Astra outside Frank's and gave it to her hard right up her shitbox.
[22:51] <Iamred> 3. And did she like it in the shitbox?
[22:51] <FloodBot1> Iamred: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:52] <qin> antnash: find . -name *xyz*
[22:52] <qin> !ot > Iamred
[22:52] <antnash> qin, ok got that, but how do I preserve the rest of the file name?
[22:52] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> find . -name *CENSORED*
[22:52] <Iamred> 1. Nigel have you taken her up the shitbox yet?  2. Yes I bent her over my Astra outside Frank's and gave it to her hard right up her shitbox.  3. And did she like it in the shitbox?  4. What the fuck to you think? Have you ever met a bird who liked it in the shitbox? Oh no you are a virgin aren't you.  5. So are you Nigel you lying shitbox. 6. Shitbox!
[22:52] <napoleaoVI> MAREK_BENC_NetB I have using the alternative CD, but it still goes screen all black
[22:53] <napoleaoVI> hitting f6 does nothing
[22:53] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> :/
[22:53] <qin> antnash: preserve?
[22:53] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> It's a PowerBook? Or a Intel MacBook?
[22:53] <urlin2u> napoleaoVI, did you hold down the shift key at poweron?
[22:53] <napoleaoVI> intel
[22:54] <napoleaoVI> from middle 2010
[22:54] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> I have no experience with intel -_-
[22:54] <antnash> For example, I've got a list of files called 'Only Fools S0[1-8] E0[1-6] {Episode_Title}.avi'
[22:54] <antnash> In 8 subdirectories
[22:54] <napoleaoVI> :)
[22:54] <antnash> How do I get rid of just the 'Only Fools '
[22:55] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> antnash: Learn BASH, and make yourself a script to do it!
[22:55] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> !abg
[22:55] <urlin2u> napoleaoVI, did you mean the nomodeset did nothing or hitting the f6 key.
[22:55] <antnash> Well I'm looking through various posts now
[22:55] <antnash> Just thought I'd ask here for a hand
[22:56] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Strange, Ubottu doesn't know the link to the Advanced Bash-scriptink Guide?
[22:56] <qin> antnash: find . -name "Only" -type f -exec (here do whatever you want with your files) \;
[22:56] <napoleaoVI> hitting the f6
[22:56] <bazhang> !abs > MAREK_BENC_NetB
[22:56] <napoleaoVI> how do I do the nomodeset?
[22:57] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Aha, my bad
[22:57] <qin> auronandace: Sorry: -name "Only*"
[22:57] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | napoleaoVI
[22:57] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> s/asg/abs
[22:57] <napoleaoVI> !nomodeset
[22:58] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132   <---- napoleaoVI
[22:58] <qin> antnash: find . -name "Only*" -type f -exec echo {} >> ~/file_Only_list \;
[22:58] <urlin2u> napoleaoVI, okay I explained this already but hey lets tr it again. Poweron the computer, hit the shift key immediatly hold it down, at the try ubuntu...etc gui hit f6 choose nomodeset and boot.
[22:58] <xinfamousx> urlin2u, i just read this "The user can create a custom file in which the user can place his own menu entries." how can i do this?
[22:58] <napoleaoVI> thanks guys, now it is working :)
[22:58] <napoleaoVI> thanks for the patient :)
[22:59] <urlin2u> xinfamousx, I don't know the wiki exsplains does it not .
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> urlin2u:  on the live cd/install cd. i think you hit space when you see the man logo at the bottom. on a normal install.. theres no f6 menu - i think
[22:59] <urlin2u> Dr_Willis, I think it is any key now.
[22:59] <philipp__> hey someone know where the hell ubuntu is saveing my private pgp?
[22:59] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> xinfamousx: the /etc/grub.d/40_custom file
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> wheres that anykey at! :)
[23:00] <jo-erlend> I'd like to connect my laptops computer to my desktop over an ssh connection. Is there any good tools available for that?
[23:00] <philipp__> hey someone know where the hell ubuntu is saveing my private pgp?
[23:00] <bazhang> !repeat | philipp__
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> jo-erlend:  connect meaning what exactly? if thet canb ping and ssh to each other.. they are connected
[23:00] <urlin2u> napoleaoVI, you catch the might be the shift key to get that gui at powering on.
[23:00] <jo-erlend> philip_, ~/.gnupg
[23:00] <urlin2u> space sorry napoleaoVI
[23:00] <rowas> I'm attempting to change the bootloader from grub.
[23:00] <napoleaoVI> I got it working, thanks :=
[23:00] <napoleaoVI> :)
[23:00] <urlin2u> cool
[23:00] <rowas> I originally  thought to replace grub with gfx boot to get my bootloader looking something like this: http://goo.gl/vpDT8
[23:00] <Gnea> philipp__: no need for such language/attitude, ~/.gnupg has it
[23:01] <rowas> , so I followed a guide. It raised red flags when I realized this was a guide to replace GRUB and not GRUB 2 that is used nowadays.
[23:01] <rowas> The problem is that I already removed my GRUB, so I don't want to shut off my computer until this gets fixed.
[23:01] <jo-erlend> Dr_Willis, well, I can launch firefox on my desktop by running DISPLAY=":0" firefox. But then what? I need to be able to send keystrokes to Firefox as well.
[23:01] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> jo-erlend: Yes, you can use Xnest and X tunneling to get a full desktop using SSH even, look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSYmajttVDw
[23:01] <jo-erlend> MAREK_BENC_NetB, that's not what I want.
[23:01] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> -_-
[23:01] <urlin2u> rowas, so you want grub in the mbr now
[23:02] <jo-erlend> MAREK_BENC_NetB, I use x2go for that btw. It's much, much faster and higher quality in every way.
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> jo-erlend:   if you have 2 linux machines (or unix) you an ssh from one box to the 2nd. run an app and it will apper on the local box.. but be running on the 2nd.  (firefox needs a special option however) ... is that what you want to do?
[23:02] <philipp__> ls
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> jo-erlend:  if you want  use the LOCAL mouse/keyboard to run a remote box you can See the monitor on.. you can use synergy for that.
[23:02] <rowas> I know I can just reinstall it from SPM, but I might as well go for something like gfxboot
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> rowas:  spm?
[23:03] <rowas> synaptic package manager
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> rowas:  i would stick with grub2 and not worry about grub eye candy that you see for all of 3 sec when booting.
[23:03] <urlin2u> rowas, sudo apt-get install grub-pc grub-common
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> rowas:  you can also do a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc' and have it put grub on a spare usb flash drive for use in  an emergancy booting of the os. if somthing else breaks grub. :)
[23:04] <jo-erlend> Dr_Willis, that sounds _great_! It will be like using the laptop as a wireless keyboard for my desktop, yes?
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> jo-erlend:  thats exactly what synergy does. a software-kvm type switch
[23:04] <philipp__> Gnea the problem is i have to copy my private .asc from my old OS to the new one but cant start the old one cause it has been compromised
[23:05] <jo-erlend> Dr_Willis, fantastic! Thanks :)
[23:05] <rowas> I don't care about how it looks, but this isn't completely  my computer, so if I make changes, I need to make sure they're... aesthetic.
[23:05] <rowas> lol
[23:05] <rodhash> Hello guys, I'm reading a little regarding X, but How it's so automatically today? I see the xorg.conf with very few options.. it's udev + update-manager that handle it now?
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> it can take some tweaking to get working jo-erlend  - You have to go to the remote box and run the synergy client. not from a ssh session. or else it can get confused.
[23:05] <jo-erlend> Dr_Willis, mmm. How do I do that without a keyboard?
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> looks good  vs  'works'  -  i will take works...
[23:05] <urlin2u> rowas, hard to tell what your saying if you actually purged grub altogether, or just rewrote the mbr, your link made no sense.
[23:05] <jo-erlend> ah. Nevermind. I can script it of course.
[23:06] <rowas> I did sudo apt-get auto remove grub
[23:06] <rowas> and grub-pc
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> jo-erlend:   no idea. :) i do know that trying to run synergyc from a ssh session on a remote box.. can cause confusion
[23:06] <urlin2u> rowas, reinstall with the commands I posted
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> jo-erlend:  and you will want to eventually put the commands in the autostart scripts
[23:06] <qin> rowas: auto?
[23:06] <urlin2u> qin, I know
[23:06] <urlin2u> ;=-)
[23:07] <philipp__> someone can help me to extract my private .asc from my other partition without starting these?
[23:07] <bombadil_rocks> what are the default fonts in ubuntu? I messed with mine and want them back
[23:07] <rowas> lol. Yes, I am aware I'm probably being n00bish right now, but this is my first week with ubuntu
[23:08] <urlin2u> rowas, first tab nics, second answer questions.
[23:08] <coz_> rowas,  then you are in the right place,, even if you just hang out here,, you will learn
[23:08] <Tank852> SOme help real quick with the terminal
[23:08] <philipp__> someone can help me to extract my private .asc from my other partition without starting these?
[23:08] <coz_> Tank852,  what is it?
[23:08] <Tank852> how do i list all files including invisible files
[23:08] <rowas> I don't even know how to use tarballs yet... sort of
[23:08] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> ls -la
[23:09] <qin> rowas: history | grep grub (since autoremove does something else, and auto do not exist)
[23:09] <coz_> Tank852,  mmm from withing the terminal ?
[23:09] <Dr_Willis> !hidden
[23:09] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Tank851: "ls -la"
[23:09] <Tank852> k thanks
[23:09] <rodhash> Hello guys, I'm reading a little regarding X, but How it's so automatically today? I see the xorg.conf with very few options.. it's udev + update-manager that handle it now?
[23:09] <Dr_Willis> ctrl-h shows them in nautilus
[23:09] <rodhash> any idea?
[23:09] <Dr_Willis> rodhash:  what was the actual question?
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> X auto configures for the most part.. using xorg.conf bits if they exist..
[23:10] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> ctrl+h also shows Hidden files in Thunar
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> its been a long road. :) to get this far in a auto-configuring X.
[23:10] <philipp__> i have to extract my private key from an not booted partition on my harddrive how do i do that?
[23:10] <rodhash> Dr_Willis: thx
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> philipp__:  do you know the files name? you can mount the other filesystem and access the files..
[23:11] <philipp__> Dr_Willis i can and i have but my problem is that i dont find the actual private .asc key...
[23:12] <rodhash> Guys another question.. My Ubuntu is using almost 800MB of swap.. I have 2GB of RAM.. So, can I issue 'swapoff -a' to release all the swap in use? I believe it would give to RAM all the data back..
[23:13] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> rodhash: Of course
[23:14] <rodhash> MAREK_BENC_NetB:  But is it harmless?? Or can I cause any issue to my system ??
[23:14] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> it can maximally cause a ram fillup
[23:14] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> It's harmless
[23:14] <philipp__> Dr_willis you have a diea where the .asc could be saved?
[23:15] <Tank852> can anyone reccomend a good ubuntu terminal tutorial to learn all the basic commands etc?
[23:15] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Ram fillup=Out of memory=Ubuntu will free some by killing some apps
[23:15] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Tank852:Metalx1000 on youtube
[23:15] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> He has awesome bash tutorials
[23:15] <Dr_Willis> philipp__:  no idea.  use find to serah all the files in your home perhaps
[23:15] <rodhash> MAREK_BENC_NetB: Got it, thanks for the info!! o/
[23:15] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Good to hear
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> somthing just seems wrong with  'watching' bash tutorial videos. :)  heh
[23:16] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Lol
[23:16] <bombadil_rocks> can someone go to System>Apperarance > fonts and tell me what fonts are listed and what size
[23:17] <Dr_Willis> bombadil_rocks:  you could add a new user.. and see what their defailts are
[23:17] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> s/defailts/defaults
[23:17] <bombadil_rocks> thanks, I already have a guest account, I'll just reset the pass so I can use it
[23:18] <Tank852> k thx
[23:19] <Dr_Willis> hopefully the way ccsm and many other tools have a 'reset to default' button - catches on with more apps...
[23:19] <jo-erlend> Dr_Willis, that doesn't seem to work though :(
[23:19] <Rondo> I had my system setup to dual boot ubuntu/windows, with ubuntu installed second.  I decided I wanted to remove ubuntu and I went to disk management tool and deleted the ubuntu partition.  That also seems to have screwed up grub, and now the computer boots into a grub rescue prompt, even when I am trying to boot from CD... any ideas?
[23:19] <Rondo> dumb mistake I know but maybe someone will know how I can proceed :P
[23:19] <Dr_Willis> jo-erlend:  assume people on irc have the attention span of a goldfish.. i barely rember what you are even refering to. :)
[23:20] <yeats> Rondo: you can restore the MBR with a windows install diks
[23:20] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Rondo: From Windows Install CD, select the repair option
[23:20] <yeats> disk, even
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> I have the attention span of a newt. :)
[23:20] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> and do a FIXBOOT
[23:20] <camper> @Rondo :try fixmbr in windows
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> Rondo:   the exact command can depend on your version of windows also.. MS likes to change them
[23:21] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Lol
[23:21] <jo-erlend> Dr_Willis, well. I've configured Synergy on both computers, but nothing seems to happen.
[23:21] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> I didn't know MySpace can change Windows
[23:21] <Dr_Willis> jo-erlend:   you did check out the ubuntu synergy wiki page/docs? it can take some tweaking.
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> jo-erlend:  theres also the quick-synergy tool/gui
[23:22] <jo-erlend> Dr_Willis, that's what I'm using.
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> i never was able to get the gui tool to work. :) so i just made configs by hand.
[23:22] <camper> just fixmbr.....
[23:23] <camper> the simplest way is to fix mbr
[23:23] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Lol, i'm surprised Windows users don't know how to fix the'yr Windows
[23:23] <bytesaber_work> how do you tell a ubuntu 11 install cd to ignore EFI ?
[23:27] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Stupid question: In irssi, is there a way to close a "/msg" tab? (IRSSI is a CLI IRC Client)
[23:27] <antnash> ok, if I run a find -exec does it pass a list of strings to the script or does it do it one by one?
[23:27] <jo-erlend> MAREK_BENC_NetB, wc?
[23:27] <jo-erlend> MAREK_BENC_NetB, /wc
[23:27] <qin> MAREK_BENC_NetB: /wc (in query window)
[23:27] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> TY!!!
[23:27] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> TY MUCH!
[23:28] <h00k> Rondo: also try ##windows for Windows support
[23:28] <Rondo> When I try to boot from the windows 7 disk it still drops into grub rescue prompt..  know any ways to avoid this?
[23:28] <antnash> lol. Been bugging you a while then marek?
[23:28] <Rondo> h00k: thanks
[23:28] <h00k> Rondo: that means it's not booting from the disk. Change your boot order
[23:28] <Rondo> h00k: cd is first in the boot order.  and it is spinning the cd first
[23:28] <qin> antnash: One by one (each find result separately)
[23:29] <antnash> awesome :)
[23:29] <h00k> Rondo: if it's dropping back to grub, that means your computer is unable to boot from that CD/DVD for whatever reason
[23:30] <antnash> so I just do    find . -type f -name "Only Fools*" -exec myscript \;   , qin?
[23:30] <antnash> or do I need to add something to make sure it passes the string through to the script?
[23:31] <qin> MAREK_BENC_NetB: btw, for in-deep irssi indoctrination, /j #irssi
[23:31] <qin> antnash: Does your script takes argument?
[23:31] <qin> *take
[23:31] <antnash> yeah
[23:31] <qin> -exec myscript {} \;
[23:32] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> qin: Thanx, but i pretty much know how to use IRSSI. WC was the only thing i didn't know i would ever use. Because /part didn't work in a /msg tab
[23:33] <qin> antnash: But this will fail to: whites and some specials.
[23:33] <exutux> /wc is an alias of /window close
[23:33] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Ok
[23:33] <antnash> oh
[23:33] <exutux> /window close number
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> Ive gotten where i perfer weechat to irssi these days
[23:34] <exutux> MAREK_BENC_NetB: /help aid you
[23:34] <Lint> my ubyntu kicked a bucket'
[23:35] <gry> Lint, Please describe your issue.
[23:35] <qin> MAREK_BENC_NetB: I said indoctrination not support, whats only channel to convince you to check your tvguide and manage system via irc client.
[23:35] <Lint> it hanged at boot immediately after 'checking battery state -- OK'
[23:36] <Lint> i don't have battery
[23:36] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Maybe your machine is too old for Good software
[23:36] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> It can be a hardware issue
[23:37] <qin> antnash: Do you want tell me what is output of find and what do you mant to do with it?
[23:37] <Lint> MAREK_BENC_NetB, was it directed at me?
[23:38] <antnash> hold up and I'll pastebin
[23:38] <antnash> This is what I have http://pastebin.com/ZWza2iRX
[23:38] <Lint> it did it again
[23:38] <antnash> And I just want to get rid of the 'Only Fools ' from each file name
[23:39] <philipp__> so anyone is even concedering to help me to export a .asc from an unmounted partition? -.-
[23:40] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> antnash: 41 files is not much, if you started renaming them each 1 by 1, you would already be done
[23:40] <Dr_Willis> antnash:  dozen ways to do it.. my normal method would be to use the ''qmv' command and  its text editor feature to search/replace the text with null. ;)
[23:40] <philipp__> i hate u useless jerks so much -.-
[23:40] <antnash> MAREK, I know. But if it happens again then I'd like to be able to sort it quickly
[23:41] <Dr_Willis> antnash:  install the rename-utils package, cd to the dir where the files are at. command similer to --> 'qmv -f do -e gedit *' edit the file list as needed.  save/quit - it will rename them all
[23:41] <qin> antnash: and in exec: | sed s/Only Fools // \;
[23:41] <Dr_Willis> antnash:  theres other gui tools to do similer. but i rarely use them.   then theres bash commands to do it also.
[23:41] <antnash> Dr_Willis, I'm not actually running ubuntu. Running OpenELEC so can't add packages and only have limited commands
[23:41] <Dr_Willis> antnash:  in the past ive also used wine and the 'bulk rename utilty'  that i know so well from my windows ussage.
[23:42] <Dr_Willis> antnash:  nice to tell us the limitations now. :) time to go the sed/awk/rename/bash route I guess.
[23:42] <antnash> sorry :/
[23:42] <qin> antnash: So: find . -name "Only*" -type f -exec echo {} | sed s/Only Fools // \;
[23:42] <Dr_Willis> personally id replace all the spaces with _  first. :) spaces in names.. are annoying
[23:43] <qin> antnash: Or save result: find . -name "Only*" -type f -exec echo {} | sed s/Only Fools // >> ~/file_list \;
[23:43] <skill3r> Hacked by Mexican Hackers http://tinyurl.com/3fpq64e
[23:43] <Lint> Dr_Willis, only for 1970 OSs
[23:43] <antnash> it keeps telling me that exec needs an argument
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> Lint:  no.. they are annoying even now...
[23:44] <Lint> now that not joke, it keeps hanging
[23:44] <qin> antnash: He? What command?
[23:44] <antnash> every command
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> ive spent many an hr tweaking file names for my BoxeeBox :)
[23:44] <FerretWithASpork> Hey all. I messed up Ubuntu so I'm re-installing. I already have GRUB installed though, should I still have the "install boot loader" option checked in the ubuntu live CD installer?
[23:45] <antnash> All the ones you just put up, it says -exec requires an argument
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> FerretWithASpork:  shouldent matter.. if it reinstalls it.
[23:45] <antnash> Bloody thing
[23:45] <FerretWithASpork> Dr_Willis: Okay; thanks.
[23:45] <Lint> use quotes after exec
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> -exec 'thestuff'
[23:46] <Lint> now one of 1500 men here can tell me how to bring my system baack into usable state?
[23:46] <qin> auronandace: One sec
[23:47] <antnash> qin, I had this as my move script... http://pastebin.com/eZVzMD9p
[23:52] <qin> antnash: Or save result: echo "" > ~/file_list; find . -name "Only*" -type f -exec echo {} >> ~/file_list \;; sed s/Only Fools // ~/file_list
[23:53] <qin> antnash: This have to work, and I have to go to man (or get more coffe)
[23:53] <antnash> lol
[23:53] <antnash> I'm not sure why I would save the result tho?
[23:53] <mld> Hey everyone, working with a mini-pci-express card.. console only.. getting "No Carrier" is that purely a carrier issue, or could it be the device driver also
[23:53] <mld> 3g cdma card btw
[23:53] <antnash> I'll investigate more tomorrow. Like you, getting tired. Cheers for your help tho qin
[23:54] <sraue> antnash, : for i in `find xbmc -name *123.txt`; do mv $i `echo $i |sed -e "s,123,,"`; done
[23:55] <sraue> its a sample i have tried so replace folders (xbmc) and 123 etc...
[23:55] <Lint> quotes?
[23:55] <antnash> so sed -e extracts that part of the string?
[23:56] <sraue> echo displays variable $1 and the piped "|" sed -e replaces 123 with nothing
[23:56] <sraue> sorry variable $i
[23:57] <FerretWithASpork> What's the proper way to partition my HD for Ubuntu? I know to put /home on a separate partition but I've heard varying things about /var and /usr.
[23:57] <Lint> antnash, I would use python, shell scripts are useless and error-prone, which is much worse
[23:57] <sraue> thats not true, thats a simple one liner
[23:57] <h00k> antnash: shell scripts are not useless, you can also check #bash for scripting assistance.
[23:58] <Lint> sraue, potentially buggy one-liner
[23:58] <sraue> Lint, i dont think so, its not buggy
[23:58] <clemenstimpler> FerretWithASpork, that may depend on your usecase - on a web server it may make sense to put /var on a separate partition
[23:58] <sraue> it does exactly what antnash want
[23:58] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> Bash is definettly *NOT* buggy
[23:58] <Phoenixz> I have no swap ATM, why do I have a kswap0 process that on instances uses some 20PU? isnt that the system swap?
[23:59] <Phoenixz> kswapd0, sorry