[08:28] <JamesTait> Good morning all!
[09:06] <karni> Good morning!
[11:07] <fagan> whoops was playing about on my desktop and forgot about my macbook going into standby
[11:08] <mandel> fagan, you use both?
[11:08] <nessita> hello everyone!
[11:08] <gatox> nessita, hi
[11:08] <mandel> nessita, hola!
[11:09] <fagan> mandel: well at the moment I just leave IRC on my macbook and do bugs or what ever on that then move back to my desktop when ever I test generally
[11:09] <mandel> fagan, that sound complicated... I have problems just with the vms...
[11:10] <fagan> mandel: well my desktop is great for vms
[11:10] <fagan> my macbook on the other hand cant compare at all
[11:10] <mandel> fagan, I mean in terms of context switch, my brain canno hold that many machines
[11:11] <fagan> mandel: but im super cool bro :D
[11:11] <mandel> hehe
[11:57] <mandel> nessita, ping
[11:57] <nessita> mandel: pong
[11:57] <mandel> nessita, can you give me a hand with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/673082/
[11:57] <nessita> looking
[11:58] <mandel> nessita, I managed to fix it once, I have re-ran the registry keys thingy and made sure there are no other processes running of sd
[11:58] <mandel> nessita, am I missing something?
[11:58] <nessita> mandel: you 100% sure you're running trunk?
[11:58] <nessita> no weird libs in PYTHONPATH?
[11:59] <nessita> ols syncdaemon libs?
[12:01] <mandel> nessita, no, is a clean branch from trunk
[12:01] <mandel> nessita, why, does that look like the path is wrong?
[12:01] <nessita> mandel: do you have running ussoc? if yes, please paste the whole output of syncdaemon.log, from the beginning
[12:02] <nessita> mandel: and please choose plain text as syntax highlithing :-)
[12:03] <mandel> nessita,  ok :)
[12:06] <mandel> nessita, http://paste.ubuntu.com/673087/
[12:06] <mandel> nessita, hmm... I wondering if I forgot about the update in the protocol...
[12:06] <nessita> yes, you can see here:
[12:06] <nessita> 2011-08-23 13:54:45,855 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.ActionQueue - INFO - The request 'oauth_authenticate' failed with the error: oauth_authenticate() takes exactly 3 arguments (4 given) and was handled with the event: SYS_UNKNOWN_ERROR
[12:06] <nessita> "The request 'oauth_authenticate' failed with the error: oauth_authenticate() takes exactly 3 arguments (4 given)"
[12:06] <nessita> you need to build and install a newer protocol
[12:07] <mandel> nessita, ok, I'll do that...
[12:08] <nessita> good!
[12:12] <mandel> nessita, I found an interesting issue with the storage protocol, setup install places the package under C:\Python27\Libs\site-packages\ubuntuone-storage-protocol\ubuntuone\
[12:12] <mandel> nessita, that looks to me like a bug
[12:12] <mandel> agree?
[12:12] <alecu> good morning!
[12:12] <nessita> mandel: no, is fine
[12:13] <nessita> mandel: why would be a bug?
[12:13] <nessita> alecu: hi there!
[12:13] <alecu> mandel, don't know what, but I always agree with you.
[12:13] <nessita> welcome back
[12:13] <alecu> hi nessita!
[12:13] <ralsina> good morning everyone!
[12:14] <mandel> alecu, ralsina buenas!
[12:14] <facundobatista> Hola alecu, ralsina, mandel, nessita
[12:14] <ralsina> hello mandel! How was holidays?
[12:14] <mandel> facundobatista, hola!
[12:15] <mandel> ralsina, short but very welcome :)
[12:15] <ralsina> hola facundobatista! Looks like I won't make it to tonight's meeting :-(
[12:15] <mandel> got lots of enegy and a bigger belly :P
[12:15] <facundobatista> ralsina, bú
[12:20] <nessita> hello all!
[12:20] <nessita> facundobatista: pitti answered here: https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/ubuntuone-client/gi-fixes/+merge/72447
[12:20] <ralsina> hello nessita!
[12:22] <ralsina> nessita, mandel: did you guys see rick mcbride's email about the overlay being stuck?
[12:22] <ralsina> That would be bug #831634
[12:22] <nessita> ralsina: did he send that email to us?
[12:22] <mandel> ralsina, nop, when/where did that happened?
[12:22] <gatox> ralsina, yep
[12:22] <ralsina> nessita: thought it was mail, it's actually a bug mail
[12:22] <nessita> haven't gone yet thru all those today
[12:23] <ralsina> nessita: ok
[12:23] <ralsina> I think it's something that happens to me too, where sometimes the IPC stops working, but have had a hard time reproducing it intentionally :-(
[12:23] <ralsina> Happened to parrino, too
[12:24] <mandel> ralsina, hm... I have not see the email, I'll check
[12:24] <mandel> by the way, do we have hal or something here
[12:24] <ralsina> whonder why hal didn't expand my bug #831634
[12:24] <mandel> bug 1
[12:24] <ralsina> hal is gone!
[12:25] <nessita> ralsina: we need logs! :-)
[12:25] <mandel> hijos de puta: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdi5PqMm4jQ
[12:25] <nessita> ralsina: very likely there was an exception, and we're not handling those yet
[12:25] <ralsina> nessita: yes, I will fix that today and do a new release
[12:25] <ralsina> as in "log the exceptions, and fix sso's log"
[12:26] <nessita> ralsina: great, because 99% chances that's the issue
[12:27] <ralsina> mandel: that settings bug could cause shares not to sync, right?
[12:28] <mandel> ralsina, if th econfig did not get saved, yes
[12:28] <ralsina> mandel: ack
[12:28] <ralsina> mandel: I would check if the file it's trying to save to is the right one. I did that part and is half guessing
[12:31] <mandel> nessita, can you reproduce bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/809559
[12:32] <mandel> nessita, I've been trying to get the error but I seems not to be able
[12:32] <mandel> with current trunk
[12:32] <nessita> mandel: I can't put time in that ATM. How did you test it?
[12:32] <alecu> nessita, I'm not sure I'm following you on your comment on this branch: https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntuone-client/fix-vbox-weird-clock/+merge/71965
[12:33] <mandel> nessita, I'm running sd, sso and contorl panel and setting and unsetting the shares setting from control panel
[12:33] <alecu> nessita, I think you are reading "generated_id = generated_id + 1", but it says "generated_id = cls.last_generated_id + 1"
[12:33] <nessita> alecu: what if  generated_id is 1 and last_generated_id is 3? by adding just one to generated_id we don't fix the issue
[12:33] <mandel> nessita, I added pdb in the save section of the save method from config
[12:34] <nessita> mandel: can you confirm the conf file is updated?
[12:34] <nessita> alecu: oh, you're right!
[12:34] <nessita> alecu: I'll re-comment
[12:35] <ralsina> gatox: you have been working on the uninstaller?
[12:36] <ralsina> gatox: if yes, could you take over bug #824653 please?
[12:36] <gatox> ralsina, ok..... the code for the uninstaller is ready, but i have to move it to a platform module
[12:37] <ralsina> gatox: ok, just assign to you and mark "in progress"
[12:37] <gatox> ralsina, ok
[12:37] <mandel> nessita, yes, in my system config gets updated perfectly with no issues
[12:37] <alecu> nessita, thanks
[12:37] <mandel> gatox, ping
[12:37] <gatox> mandel, pong
[12:38] <nessita> mandel: the comment that in the bug detailing revno you used to run the IRL tests and close as works for me, please
[12:39] <mandel> gatox, one question, when I use the Default settings button, what values should be added to the upload/download limits atm in -1
[12:39] <mandel> nessita, sure!
[12:40] <gatox> mandel, sorry... do you mean what is specified in the design?? i'm not sure i'm following...
[12:41] <mandel> gatox, so, first time I run control panel it has some default values for the upload/download limits, right?
[12:41] <gatox> mandel, yes
[12:41] <mandel> with is around the 2000s or something like that
[12:42] <mandel> gatox, I changed then, then clicked default settings and they value did not get back to the initial one
[12:43] <mandel> nessita, there is though a use of open in config.py, should that be changed to open_file and dile a bug?
[12:43] <gatox> mandel, ahhhhhhhh....... let me check with the doc...
[12:43] <nessita> mandel: yes please
[12:44] <gatox> ralsina, do you know what mandel is asking for?? i can't find that in the documentation...... i thought that this value was coming from the server
[12:44] <nessita> mandel: FYI gatox hasn't been working with the settings, the widget was coded in the controlpanel, you may need my input there
[12:44] <nessita> gatox: I know
[12:44] <ralsina> gatox: yes it is
[12:45] <gatox> nessita, ralsina ok
[12:45] <nessita> ralsina: what values are coming from the server?
[12:45] <ralsina> nessita: the current bandwidth values. Not from the server but from syncdaemon
[12:45] <gatox> ralsina, ah... right
[12:45] <nessita> ralsina: right, not server :-)
[12:45] <mandel> nessita, I though it was something realted just with the UI not showing the value...
[12:45] <ralsina> IPC server ;-)
[12:46] <nessita> mandel: what issue do you have?
[12:46] <mandel> nessita, change upload/download limits, click default setting and old values doe not re-appear in the UI
[12:47] <nessita> mandel: default values is -1
[12:47] <mandel> nessita, oh, is it? and then why is there a diff value when I start control panel?
[12:47] <nessita> mandel: so, when you click 'default values' you should get -1
[12:47] <nessita> mandel: you had other settings of your own?
[12:47] <mandel> nessita, but I never changed those and got a 2000 something in the box
[12:48] <mandel> nessita, no that I know of, I have never changed those
[12:48] <nessita> mandel: can you please check the default config in syncdaemon trunk?
[12:48] <mandel> nessita, sure
[12:51] <mandel> nessita, when I close the bug becuse I cannot reproduce it, what should I use from lp?
[12:51] <mandel> invalid?
[12:51] <nessita> mandel: worksforme equivalent
[12:51] <nessita> invalid I think
[12:53] <ralsina> cannot reproduce is supposed to be incomplete and ask for more info
[12:53] <ralsina> but since we are all friends here, invalid is just fine ;-)
[12:53] <mandel> nessita, the conf after an ./autogen.sh in trunk
[12:53] <mandel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/673107/
[12:54] <mandel> ralsina, invalid it is then :P
[12:54] <nessita> mandel: so, what\ s th veredict?
[12:54] <ralsina> mandel, nessita, alecu, dobey, fagan, gatox: standup in 6' !
[12:54] <gatox> ralsina, ack
[12:55] <mandel> nessita, for what?
[12:55] <mandel> nessita, the bug, invalid, the limits seems to be wrong
[12:55] <nessita> mandel: why?
[12:55] <nessita> [bandwidth_throttling] on.default = False
[12:56] <nessita> by default bandwith is not enabled, so we need to reflect that
[12:56] <mandel> nessita, true, but why is there this: read_limit.default = 2097152
[12:56] <nessita> and since in the control panel we have no way of setting limits but having it disabled...
[12:56] <nessita> we need to set the values to -1
[12:56] <nessita> mandel: we may ensure the first load of the default congi shows -1
[12:56] <nessita> config*
[12:57] <nessita> mandel: fill me a bug for that, please
[12:57] <mandel> nessita, I honestly do have a string opinion, I just noticed that I initially saw 2097152 and then -1 :P
[12:57] <mandel> nessita, sure, I'll get a bug for that then :)
[12:58] <nessita> what's a string opinion? ;-)
[12:58] <nessita> a long opinion? a thin one?
[12:58] <ralsina> one full of character!
[12:58] <mandel> nessita, hehe I wanted to type strong... i and o are close :P
[12:58] <nessita> :-P
[12:59] <mandel> but string seems to me ok too  hehehe
[13:00] <alecu> me
[13:00] <mandel> me
[13:00] <gatox> me
[13:00] <alecu> ralsina, nessita, dobey, fagan: stand up!
[13:01] <ralsina> me
[13:01] <nessita> me
[13:01] <dobey> me
[13:01] <ralsina> alecu: start!
[13:01] <alecu> DONE: rested a bit, gave the DBus talk at PyDay Montevideo
[13:01] <alecu> TODO: a better fix for VirtualBox clock bug, work on eq_inotify tests
[13:01] <alecu> BLOCKED: no
[13:01] <alecu> NEXT: mandel
[13:02] <mandel> DONE: starte a little late because my laptop when banannas after an update :( fixed the machine and started looking at 809559 which I close since IRL I had no issues. Found a small bug in config.py (uses open) and another in control panel.
[13:02] <mandel> TODO: more bugs
[13:02] <mandel> BLOCKED: nope
[13:02] <mandel> next: gatox
[13:02] <gatox> DONE:
[13:02] <gatox> Bug #822691, Almost done Bug #822685
[13:02] <gatox> TODO:
[13:02] <gatox> Finish Bug #823414, Bug #824653. Start with: Bug #831310, Bug #831312, Bug #829365, Bug #829652
[13:02] <gatox> BLOCKED:
[13:02] <gatox> No
[13:02] <gatox> ralsina, go
[13:02] <ralsina> DONE: not much, felt bad on friday, holiday yesterday
[13:02] <ralsina> TODO: merge pending branches, triage what's left to do, calls, release
[13:02] <ralsina> BLOCKED: no
[13:02] <ralsina> nessita?
[13:02] <nessita> DONE: landed fix for ussoc for bug #831043, analyzed GI issue with platform crowd, meeting with design team re: controlpanel window size
[13:02] <nessita> TODO: working on client fix for bug #831043, bug #818190
[13:02] <nessita> BLOCKED: nopes
[13:02] <nessita> NOTES: teaching duties, I'm leaving at noon today
[13:02] <nessita> NEXT: dobey
[13:03] <dobey> λ DONE: mostly finished bug #828195
[13:03] <dobey> λ TODO: finish #828195, (doing) call about jenkins
[13:03] <dobey> λ BLCK: None.
[13:05] <ralsina> ok, comments?
[13:06] <ralsina> so EOM
[13:07] <nessita> verterok: ping
[13:07] <verterok> nessita: pong
[13:07]  * mandel lunch
[13:07] <nessita> verterok: would you give a hand with bug #822034?
[13:07] <mandel> ralsina, we shall talk about pycon later in the afternoon :D
[13:07] <mandel> cu all later
[13:07] <ralsina> mandel: sure. See you!
[13:07] <verterok> nessita: no bug bot here?
[13:07] <ralsina> verterok: seems to have died :-(
[13:08] <nessita> verterok: apparently :-/
[13:08] <verterok> nessita: buy a new disk? :)
[13:08] <verterok> nessita: FWIW, it's a duplicate
[13:08] <nessita> verterok: have the master report handy?
[13:08] <verterok> nessita: le me find the master
[13:10] <verterok> nessita: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/776386
[13:11] <verterok> nessita: not sure if that';s the master bug
[13:12] <verterok> nessita: as therea multiple-bugs/issues reported there
[13:12] <nessita> Chipaca: email about talk re wizard size sent (I forgot yesterday)
[13:12] <Chipaca> nessita: shame on you ;-)
[13:12] <nessita> yeah
[13:14] <verterok> nessita: yes, there are already 2 dupes on it...let's make it the master bug and change it to confirmed or something
[13:14] <nessita> ok, would you please do so?
[13:15] <verterok> done
[13:17] <nessita> thanks!!!
[13:28] <fagan> me sorry about that went to the shop
[13:28] <fagan> DONE
[13:28] <fagan> * Read a book
[13:28] <fagan> * Did some testing of trunk
[13:28] <fagan> TODO
[13:28] <fagan> * What ever anyone needs
[13:28] <fagan> BLOCKED
[13:28] <fagan> * No
[13:30] <ralsina> nessita, alecu: simple branch -- https://code.launchpad.net/~ralsina/ubuntu-sso-client/log-better/+merge/72573
[13:30] <ralsina> it just moves code from u1-client into sso, and updates a couple of lines to use it
[13:32] <nessita> ralsina: looks good, but wasn't there windows tests as well?
[13:32] <ralsina> nessita: good question!
[13:32] <nessita> tests/platform/windows/test_xdg_base_directory.py
[13:33] <nessita> there is!
[13:33] <ralsina> nessita: yep, will add those
[13:33] <nessita> great!
[13:47] <ralsina> dobey: I know you are going to complain about the merging ping pong that's going on in my branch. Sorry about that :-(
[13:47] <ralsina> dobey: but I had conflicts in the conflicts files ';-)
[13:48] <dobey> yes i see that
[13:48] <dobey> you're impatient, and you suck at fixing conflicts ;)
[13:48] <ralsina> ack on both
[13:49] <ralsina> except between people, I am rather good at those
[13:49] <dobey> better than facts.
[13:50] <ralsina> dobey: parse error
[13:51] <dobey> ralsina: amused (read sad) how some people insist on ignoring facts
[13:52] <ralsina> dobey: indeed people ignore facts. However, often they (we) can be gentled into accepting them when presented on different ways.
[13:54] <dobey> yes, by appeasing the other person's ego and making it seem like you are compromising your own to make them happy; remaining neutral without the need to satisfy any ego, seems to not work so well
[13:58] <ralsina> yep, pretty much
[13:58] <ralsina> then again, if one doesn't care somuch about one's own ego, that's cheap
[14:00] <dobey> well, there's nothing to sacrifice there
[14:02] <gatox> ralsina, nessita buttons style in control panel: https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-control-panel/buttons-ui-style/+merge/72576
[14:02] <dobey> anyway
[14:02] <ralsina> gatox: looking!
[14:06] <rye> redirecting ubuntuone-preferences to localhost is fun
[14:08] <ralsina> gatox: you should add tests for what you do in lines 288 and later in the diff.
[14:09] <ralsina> gatox: other than that, I see no problems and it looks much nicer!
[14:09]  * gatox looking...
[14:10] <gatox> ralsina, there is a test for that...... what do you mean?
[14:10] <ralsina> nessita: pushed with the windows tests. I am not 100% sure I added them the right way but they work https://code.launchpad.net/~ralsina/ubuntu-sso-client/log-better/+merge/72573
[14:10] <ralsina> gatox: is there?
[14:10] <gatox> ralsina, test is at line 315 and 326
[14:11] <ralsina> gatox: oh, missed that! +1 then!
[14:11] <gatox> ralsina, and that method is called for all the scenarios
[14:11] <nessita> ralsina: they were not added the right way :-), I'll reply the MP
[14:11] <gatox> ralsina, thanks
[14:11] <ralsina> nessita: ok, thanks!
[14:14] <nessita> ralsina: comment added
[14:14] <ralsina> nessita: thanks!
[14:16] <nessita> gatox: there is 2 styles for QPushButton
[14:16] <nessita> 169+QPushButton{
[14:16] <nessita> and
[14:16] <nessita> 179+QPushButton {
[14:17] <nessita> gatox: also, any reason to move the QFrame#frm_box definition? (ideally we should group this by widget)
[14:20]  * gatox looking.......
[14:25] <nessita> ralsina, mandel, gatox, alecu, Chipaca: let's mumble?
[14:25] <ralsina> nessita: still on mgmt mumble
[14:25] <Chipaca> nessita: in a mumble
[14:25] <ralsina> nessita: should be free in a few minutes
[14:25] <nessita> ralsina, Chipaca: right! let us know please :-)
[14:26] <ralsina> nessita: re-organized the tests, checked lint etc. https://code.launchpad.net/~ralsina/ubuntu-sso-client/log-better/+merge/72573
[14:26] <nessita> ralsina: ack
[14:29] <nessita> ralsina: I think  the test_windows.py is missing
[14:29] <ralsina> nessita: oops, let me check
[14:29] <nessita> with the windows specific stuff (get_special_folders)
[14:30]  * ralsina wishes bzr had a "bzr cp" like other VC thingies do
[14:30] <ralsina> nessita: added and pushed
[14:34] <ralsina> nessita, mandel, gatox, alecu, Chipaca: can we mumble in 10'?
[14:34] <gatox> ralsina, yes
[14:34] <ralsina> so I can mate-up
[14:35] <gatox> nessita, done: https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-control-panel/buttons-ui-style/+merge/72576
[14:36] <nessita> gatox: ack
[14:36] <nessita> ralsina: sure
[14:38] <mandel> ok
[14:39] <dobey> why do people review their own proposals as "resubmit"?
[14:39] <dobey> LP clearly needs some UX work there
[14:44] <nessita> ralsina: a couple of needs fixing added
[14:44] <ralsina> nessita: ok, will check!
[14:46] <mandel> ralsina, when do we have mumble?
[14:46] <ralsina> mandel: about now :-)
[14:47] <fagan> rumble in the mumble
[14:47] <ralsina> nessita, mandel, chipaca: windows mumble?
[14:47] <nessita> in there
[14:47] <mandel> ralsina, then I'm fighting with it to connect :P
[14:47] <ralsina> gatox: you too
[14:47] <nessita> was in the design channel :-)
[14:47] <Chipaca> on mah weg
[14:48] <fagan> mandel: ill loan you some of my bandwidth :D
[14:48] <mandel> fagan, puff... is not only that.. it seems that the entire vodafone network is down... I don't even have a working mobile phone atm
[14:50] <mandel> ralsina, I'm triying and failing...
[14:50] <alecu> verterok, ping
[14:50] <ralsina> mandel: is it mumble, or is it network problems?
[14:50] <alecu> verterok, regarding moving the fix to WindowsTimer issue in https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntuone-client/fix-vbox-weird-clock/+merge/71965
[14:50] <mandel> ralsina, seems to be mumble since I'm here with no problems what so ever...
[14:51] <ralsina> Chipaca: we are moving to skype because mandel's mumble is broken
[14:51] <alecu> verterok, I'm finding some issues because time.clock returns a float, and adding a decimal amount does not work quite predictably as when adding an integer.
[14:52] <alecu> verterok, my idea is to change both "timestamp" functions to return an integer
[14:52] <mandel> ralsina, I;m on skype already, can you call me to see if it works ok
[14:52] <alecu> verterok, that is, they should be doing the multiplication that is currently being done on _get_next_file_id
[14:53] <ralsina> mandel: seems the call to you fails
[14:53] <Chipaca> ralsina: ok
[14:53] <mandel> hmmmm
[14:54] <verterok> alecu: pong
[14:54] <alecu> verterok, does that make sense?
[14:55] <verterok> alecu: correct me if I'm wrong
[14:55] <verterok> alecu: the problem only happen in windows, right?
[14:55] <alecu> verterok, right
[14:55] <ralsina> Chipaca: you seem offline. Mandel: you too
[14:55] <alecu> verterok, well, I don't know in fact, because I don't run linux on vbox
[14:56] <verterok> alecu: my idea of doing it in the windows timer was to only do the workaround in the case that's affected
[14:56] <alecu> verterok, right, and I liked your idea, and started doing that
[14:56] <verterok> alecu: what about adding a new function that does the timestamp * X?
[14:56] <verterok> alecu: because we are using the timestamp in other places
[14:57] <verterok> alecu: we store a timestamp in each record *inside* the db :)
[14:57] <alecu> verterok, ok, that makes more sense. I'll try that.
[14:57] <verterok> alecu: forget about that...we have that function...and it's get_next_id
[14:58] <verterok> get_next_file_id :po
[14:59] <verterok> alecu: so, adding the log should be good enough :)
[14:59] <alecu> verterok, but get_next_id is also called on linux
[15:00] <verterok> alecu: IMO, makes no sense to add a new function to just do the timestamp() * X and call that in get_next_file_id
[15:00] <alecu> verterok, anyway, it's safe to call it on linux
[15:00] <verterok> alecu: yes, but the change will make it more complex...and that function isn't called that much
[15:00] <verterok> at least not now
[15:01] <verterok> alecu: just add the log, and we are good :)
[15:01] <alecu> verterok, great, thanks!
[15:06] <alecu> nessita, ralsina: my microphone driver is not working right again. I'm typing here, because nobody seems to pay attention to skype.
[15:06] <alecu> ralsina, it seems that mandel is online now
[15:06] <ralsina> ok, calling him
[15:13] <alecu> bug #727396
[15:13] <nessita> alecu: no bot here
[15:13] <alecu> looks like it :P
[15:17] <elopio> good morning!
[15:26] <joshuahoover> dobey: ping
[15:27] <dobey> joshuahoover: hi
[15:27] <joshuahoover> dobey: hi, do we have a mir for ubuntuone-installer? if not, want me to create one?
[15:28] <dobey> we don't yet. we need one
[15:28] <joshuahoover> dobey: k, i'll do that in just a bit
[15:29] <dobey> joshuahoover: ok, thanks
[15:32] <dobey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAEzv-lypmU
[15:37] <dobey> must get some lunch, bbiab
[15:37] <gatox> nessita, done https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-control-panel/buttons-ui-style/+merge/72576
[15:38] <nessita> ack
[15:42] <ralsina> nessita: I am guessing you leave for college in a few minutes. Could you remove yout needsfixig from https://code.launchpad.net/~ralsina/ubuntu-sso-client/log-better/+merge/72573 and I promise to get another review?
[15:44] <nessita> ralsina: I'm taking my laptop with me, I promise re-reviewing when I finish teaching (6pm)
[15:44] <ralsina> nessita: ok then
[15:45] <nessita> gatox: can you please revert this?
[15:45] <nessita>      <property name="currentIndex">
[15:45] <nessita>       <number>3</number>
[15:45] <nessita>      </property>
[15:45] <nessita> it was 0 before
[15:46] <gatox> nessita, ok
[15:46] <joshuahoover> dobey: once u1-installer is in main, does u1-client get dropped from the cd?
[15:46]  * nessita hopes not
[15:48] <gatox> nessita, reverted
[16:16] <nessita> ok, I'm gone crowd
[16:16] <nessita> email me if you need anything!
[16:16] <nessita> bye
[16:23] <Chipaca> see?
[16:23] <Beret> indeed
[16:23] <Chipaca> rye: ping
[16:25] <Chipaca> Beret: who do I speak with to get a canonical cloak?
[16:26] <Beret> um
[16:26] <Beret> let me check
[16:29] <Chipaca> verterok: over here, in fact
[16:29] <Chipaca> snap-l: hi
[16:29] <snap-l> HI Chipaca. I'm squeekyhoho on twitter. :)
[16:29] <Chipaca> snap-l: I assume you're
[16:29] <Chipaca> yeah
[16:29] <Chipaca> the cmaloney in your cloak :)
[16:30] <Beret> there you are
[16:30] <Beret> snap-l, we should debug your brokenness
[16:30]  * Beret runs
[16:30] <Chipaca> verterok: snap-l. snap-l: verterok
[16:30] <Chipaca> have at it :)
[16:30] <verterok> snap-l: hi!
[16:31] <verterok> so, what's the problem? :p
[16:31] <snap-l> Well, on occasion Ubuntu One won't finish syncing a file
[16:31] <snap-l> it'll just hang
[16:31] <snap-l> and I'll run u1sdtool -q && u1sdtool -c to restart
[16:31] <verterok> snap-l: hang like not uploading anything else or just that file?
[16:31] <snap-l> upon doing so, it'll restart the transfer
[16:32] <snap-l> Well, today it was on one 130MB file
[16:32] <snap-l> I have a 8Mb down / 1Mb up connection via WOW
[16:33] <snap-l> going to head afk for 15 for lunch, but will brb.
[16:34] <alecu> verterok, when you have some time, please re-review https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntuone-client/fix-vbox-weird-clock/+merge/71965
[16:34] <verterok> snap-l: could you upload the logs? they are located at ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon*.log
[16:34] <verterok> alecu: ok
[16:44] <verterok> snap-l: or you can pastebin the last log files, e.g:  syncdaemon.log.2011-08-23_*.log
[16:50] <dobey> joshuahoover: we'll have to pull numerous things off the CD once in main, yes
[16:50] <dobey> joshuahoover: or well, once we get u1-installer on the CD
[16:50] <mandel> ralsina, gatox, alecu, dobey is EOD for me, I'll see you guys tom :)
[16:51] <dobey> mandel: that's what she said :P
[16:51] <ralsina> see ya!
[16:51] <mandel> dobey, +1 :)
[16:51] <mandel> ralsina, we need to talk from about pycon, I have to get the flight ticket and would be nice to know if we can d a mini-sprint
[16:52] <mandel> ralsina, also, if I'm going to help you in the talk we might want to think about it :)
[16:53] <mandel> ok, bye all!
[16:53]  * mandel runs
[16:54] <dobey> when is pycon?
[16:54] <alecu> dobey, in a month, in junin, buenos aires!
[16:54] <joshuahoover> dobey: do you know which packages we'll be pulling off the cd?
[16:55] <dobey> alecu: oh
[16:56] <alecu> dobey, are you coming too? ;-)
[16:56] <dobey> alecu: no
[16:57] <dobey> joshuahoover: i don't remember what all exactly is on the CD right now. i'd have to find the list to look at
[16:57] <joshuahoover> dobey: k
[17:00] <snap-l> verterok: I'm uploading the logs now.
[17:00] <joshuahoover> dobey: mir filed: bug #832179
[17:00] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 832179 in ubuntuone-installer (Ubuntu) "[MIR] ubuntuone-installer (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/832179
[17:00] <verterok> snap-l: ok, cool. I need to step out for a while, but bbiab.
[17:01] <snap-l> verterok: No worries. Thanks!
[17:02] <dobey> joshuahoover: great
[17:11] <ralsina> facundobatista: a while ago you showed me where syncdaemon was catching all of twisted errors so they didn't go to stderr. I lost it. Could you point me to it again?
[17:31] <gatox> ralsina, some changes in the uninstaller branch: https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-windows-installer/uninstall/+merge/72402
[17:31] <gatox> to move the uninstall implementation to a multiplatform module
[17:31]  * ralsina looks
[17:32] <ralsina> I am thinking that "Disagree & uninstall" button is going to be a problem later, but am still not sure
[17:32] <ralsina> As in "what happens if the admin installs, then the user starts the wizard and clicks uninstall"
[17:32] <ralsina> and then the app is gone for everyone :-)
[17:33] <ralsina> But hey, if he does that he has sysadmin powers so he could do it with the menu. So no harm done
[17:33] <ralsina> gatox: while you are touching there, didn't lisette ask for the "Print" button to go away?
[17:34] <verterok> snap-l: I'm back
[17:34] <gatox> ralsina, didn't know about that
[17:34] <verterok> snap-l: this is the first time you uploaded the file? or a file with the same name?
[17:34] <ralsina> gatox: let me check ...
[17:35] <ralsina> gatox: bug #829361
[17:35] <ubot4> ralsina: Bug 829361 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/829361 is private
[17:36] <gatox> ralsina, okkkkk.... i will apply that changes to this branch too
[17:36] <ralsina> gatox: you could do another branch but since it's two lines...
[17:36] <snap-l> verterok: I believe this is the first time I uploaded this file, but can't say for certain
[17:36] <snap-l> actually, it may not be the first time
[17:37] <ralsina> gatox: also, the tests for utils should be in utils/tests
[17:37] <verterok> snap-l: I mean, a similar or the same file in the same location: "Ubuntu One/<filename.pdf>"
[17:38] <verterok> snap-l: at the first look, it seems like a bug in the client...which is self-healing after a restart
[17:38] <snap-l> I believe it was in a different folder than that.
[17:38] <snap-l> but the same filename
[17:38] <gatox> ralsina, ok, i'll change that
[17:38] <verterok> snap-l: and you moved it or deleted and copied it back?
[17:38] <snap-l> I deleted it a long time ago, and then put the file in a different location to share with a friend.
[17:39] <verterok> snap-l: ah, ok. cool (it's not a move related bug :) )
[17:40] <ralsina> gatox: other than that, great branch!
[17:40] <snap-l> Though I have noticed some instances where I had to create a new folder in order to work around a similar upload bug
[17:43] <verterok> snap-l: hmm, would you mind to run the client with logging configured in DEBUG?
[17:44] <verterok> snap-l: it will use a bit more of disk, as the logs a lot more verbose
[17:44] <snap-l> Sure, but I'll need the switches
[17:44] <snap-l> verterok: Oh, well that'll fill up that 200gb free quicker. ;)
[17:45] <verterok> heh
[17:45] <verterok> snap-l: do you have this file: ~/.config/ubuntuone/logging.conf ?
[17:45] <snap-l> No, I'm missing that file.
[17:45] <verterok> snap-l: if not, just do this to turn on DEBUG logging: echo -e "[logging]\nbackup_count = 10\nfile_size = 0\nlevel = DEBUG"  > ~/.config/ubuntuone/logging.conf
[17:46] <snap-l> OK, got it
[17:47] <verterok> snap-l: that will turn on DEBUG, and keep a single log file for each session (client restart), up until 10 sessions/restarts
[17:47] <verterok> snap-l: now, restart the client and it should be doing debug logs
[17:47] <snap-l> OK, I've restarted the client
[17:48] <verterok> snap-l: I'll discuss what I'm seeing in your logs (I have a theory) with a team mate and try to figure out where the problem is
[17:48] <snap-l> I just deleted the file, and will try uploading it again
[17:48] <verterok> snap-l: if it happen again, please show up here and ping me :)
[17:50] <lisette> ralsina: yes i did ask that
[17:50] <snap-l> verterok: Thanks. Will do
[17:51] <verterok> snap-l: hopefully we will have more detailed logs of what's going on
[17:52] <verterok> Chipaca: so, the good news is that's not a resumable uploads issue
[17:52] <verterok> the bad news is that it seems to be a bug in syncdaemon
[18:01] <gatox> ralsina, changes applied https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-windows-installer/uninstall/+merge/72402
[18:01] <ralsina> gatox: looking!
[18:03] <ralsina> gatox: +1 from me. I only have doubts about having an "uninstall application" button in linux where it makes little sense, but we'll polish that one when we get to linux
[18:04] <gatox> ralsina, yes.....
[18:04] <ralsina> gatox: not that this even _runs_ on linux yet ;-)
[18:04] <gatox> ralsina, :P
[18:05] <ralsina> alecu, gatox: may I interest you in a review of https://code.launchpad.net/~ralsina/ubuntuone-client/log-betterer/+merge/72597
[18:07] <ralsina> dobey: you too can pitch in with a linux review of ^ if you want
[18:11] <gatox> ralsina, on it
[18:11] <ralsina> gatox: thanks!
[18:13] <dobey> ralsina: i think i need to evacuate, from the earthquake :)
[18:14] <ralsina> dobey: that s what she said!
[18:14] <ralsina> dobey: ok, just kidding, hope nothing breaks, good luck, etc ;-)
[18:17] <dobey> hrmm. just tried to call urbanape but my phone was just silent like it wasn't connecting or something
[18:17] <dobey> i guess the phones here are a bit nuts at the moment
[18:19] <ralsina> dobey: as if people were trying to call each other because of an earthquake, you mean?
[18:19] <dobey> yeah
[18:29] <gatox> cuando intento correr los tests me refiero
[18:31] <ralsina> gatox: ogit, try removing _trial_temp first
[18:31] <ralsina> s/ogit/gotiy
[18:31] <ralsina> s/gotiy/gotit/ :-D
[18:31]  * ralsina is typing like a macaque today
[18:32] <ralsina> gatox: also, I don't understand where you are running the tests from / what your PYTHONPATH is
[18:34] <dobey> actually, i could totally use some tea right now
[18:34] <dobey> brb
[18:51] <dobey> bah, i didn't even get to use my free gift card thing
[19:12]  * ralsina is off to pick up the kid from school
[19:34]  * ralsina is back
[19:40] <dobey> whee
[19:51] <ralsina> dobey: if you are not a refugee anymore, can you take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~ralsina/ubuntuone-client/log-betterer/+merge/72597 from the linux side? It is basically a no-op there :-)
[19:53] <dobey> aww, do i have to? i was busy complaining about gtk3
[19:53] <ralsina> dobey: only if you have the time
[19:54] <ralsina> I know complaining about gtk3 is a time-consuming thing
[19:54] <dobey> ralsina: so you moved the stuff out of ubuntuone-client, and into ubuntu-sso-client is all?
[19:54] <ralsina> dobey: yep
[19:54] <ralsina> it also means you have to update sso on tarmac, I think
[19:55] <dobey> ralsina: then i don't see a problem. yes i suppose i do; and you need to get nessita to review it anyway :)
[19:55] <ralsina> chicken! ;-)
[19:56] <dobey> no. there is a review requested from her specifically on LP
[19:56] <ralsina> uh?
[19:56] <dobey> and if it is still Pending, the branch won't land anyway
[19:56] <dobey> https://code.launchpad.net/~ralsina/ubuntuone-client/log-betterer/+merge/72597 <- "Natalia Bidart --- Pending"
[19:56] <ralsina> weird, I didn't ask for her specifically
[19:56] <dobey> maybe she clicked the "claim this review" button?
[19:57] <ralsina> could be
[19:57] <ralsina> oh, well, onto other things then
[19:57] <dobey> where is she anyway? uni?
[19:57] <ralsina> dobey: yeah
[19:57] <ralsina> should be back in one hour anyway
[19:58] <dobey> fml. i hate urllib
[19:58] <dobey> urllib2.URLError: <urlopen error ftp error: [Errno 111] Connection refused>
[19:58] <dobey> for a file://localhost/blah/blah url
[19:58] <dobey> i wonder if it is a separate package from python core
[20:00] <ralsina> urllib2? seems to be core
[20:00] <ralsina> dobey: it's core python http://docs.python.org/library/urllib2.html
[20:01] <dobey> sigh
[20:12] <dobey> ralsina: anyway, sso is updated, so tarmac will land your branch once approved
[20:13] <ralsina> dobey: cool, thznks
[20:27] <ralsina> alecu: ping
[20:28] <alecu> ralsina, pong
[20:28] <ralsina> alecu: got 5' for some technical questions?
[20:29] <alecu> ralsina, sure. What questions should I ask? :-)
[20:29] <ralsina> alecu: nah, I am the asker :-)
[20:29] <ralsina> alecu: check http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/673354/
[20:30] <ralsina> specifically lines 32/44
[20:30] <ralsina> I am trying to make absolutely sure we don't write to stderr on windows, to avoid the crap py2exe does with it
[20:30] <alecu> right
[20:31] <ralsina> I know I am missing something to catch twisted's exceptions too
[20:31] <ralsina> but anyway, I am scared at how ugly this is
[20:32] <alecu> so, what does it happen on setup_logging?
[20:32] <alecu> let's see...
[20:32] <ralsina> alecu: if setup_logging raises something, it all breaks
[20:33] <ralsina> alecu: I had (for a few seconds) a noop lambda as excepthook before setup_logging :-)
[20:34] <alecu> ralsina, hmmm. I really need to run now, but I'll take a look at this later.
[20:34] <ralsina> alecu: ok
[20:35] <alecu> ralsina, but anyway, I have not delved too much into how the twisted loggers are set up. I think we should ask facundo when he returns tomorrow.
[20:35] <ralsina> alecu: ok
[20:36]  * alecu runs away from all the loggers. And from the keyboard, too.
[20:50] <jo-erlend> is it normal for desktopcouch to not be available in Oneiric?
[20:53] <dobey> jo-erlend: what do you mean by not available?
[20:54] <jo-erlend> dobey, whenever I try to use anything related to desktopcouch, I get an error like this: (Unauthorized: ('unauthorized', 'Authentication required.'))
[20:55] <jo-erlend> however, Firefox is able to access it when I point to the couchdb.html file. All other applications get that error message.
[20:56] <dobey> jo-erlend: ah yes, there are lots of bug reports about it. seems new couchdb in oneiric possibly broke oauth; but we haven't had time to debug it ourselves :(
[20:57] <jo-erlend> ah, ok. It's a little bit annoying since I'm working on a couch app, but as long as people are aware of it, I'm sure it'll get fixed soon :)
[20:58] <dobey> i hope so. i'm tired of seeing the bug reports :)
[21:00] <jo-erlend> but this will probably further delay the u1 couch service?
[21:03] <dobey> you mean the server issue that only affects some users?
[21:04] <jo-erlend> only some users? I haven't been able to find anyone who doesn't have that problem.
[21:17] <dobey> ralsina: sigh. looks like i have to update the packaging too, for ubuntu-sso-client :(
[21:17] <dobey> wait, no
[21:17] <dobey> ralsina: *thwap*
[21:18] <dobey> ralsina: you need to fix setup.py in ubuntu-sso-client also
[21:28] <karni> duanedesign: around?
[21:30] <dobey> have a good evening everyone!
[21:32] <elopio> bye dobey.
[21:51] <Chipaca> ralsina: ping
[22:25] <duanedesign> hello karni
[22:26] <duanedesign> karni: sorry i missed you i was answering Forum posts
[22:26] <karni> duanedesign: that's ok. I wanted to ask something about VPS. oh I know
[22:26] <duanedesign> i need to get my notifications to work when I am pinged in IRC
[22:27] <karni> duanedesign: I wanted to ask what would you suggest for a VPS, 10.04 LTS or 11.04
[22:27] <karni> duanedesign: I went with 10.04, it's probably better documented, and still supported
[22:28] <duanedesign> yeah, on a VPS definitely an LTS, In my humble opinion
[22:28] <karni> ktnx :)
[22:28] <duanedesign> karni: i have an old release on mine
[22:28] <karni> uhm
[22:29] <duanedesign> I keep putting of upgrading it
[22:29] <duanedesign> s/of/off
[22:46] <nhaines> karni: I have Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS on this VPS too.  :)
[22:47] <karni> nhaines: hezner.de ?
[22:47] <karni> nhaines: I didn't write where I had it set up, how would you know :)?
[22:49] <nhaines> karni: haha, vaalbara.nhaines.com I mean.  :)
[22:49] <nhaines> Or actually, prgmr.net!
[22:49] <karni> nhaines: on `the` VPS you mean :) cool!
[22:49] <nhaines> Also by "prgmr.net" I mean "prgmr.com"
[22:50] <nhaines> karni: I mean "this" one, where I run screen/byobu and irssi and idle all day.  ;)
[22:50] <karni> I like it short, karni.tk (nothing there ATM)
[22:50] <karni> nhaines: oh right :)
[22:50] <nhaines> vaalbara's just the VPS I use for shell stuff... www.* is using shared hosting.
[22:51] <nhaines> So it uses the naming scheme I have for my computers.. biomes for systems and supercontinents for servers.  :)
[22:53] <karni> nhaines: pretty cool, I can't come up with cool naming patter. maybe because I only own a laptop, and now a VPS :)
[22:53] <nhaines> karni: sure, I have tundra, tropic, arctic, prairie, desert, forest, jungle.... my router is pangea and my VPS is vaalbara.  :)
[22:54] <nhaines> Some of those names are retired... I don't have that many computers, hehe.
[23:12] <karni> duanedesign: is Ubuntu One Files a [ubuntu_mobile] or [other] prefix?
[23:14] <karni> duanedesign: sticky please :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11180509
[23:15] <duanedesign> woot
[23:16] <karni> duanedesign: If you could correct my grammar in the first post, that'd be most awesome :)
[23:20] <karni> CardinalFang: hi Chad, you got disconnected
[23:20] <CardinalFang> karni, yes, I left.  Back now.
[23:20] <CardinalFang> ...for a bit.
[23:21] <karni> CardinalFang: I sent you an e-mail.
[23:21] <karni> Short one
[23:22] <CardinalFang> karni, hrm.
[23:23] <CardinalFang> karni, ah, that's a 404.  I haven't implemented the ser'n file removal yet.
[23:23]  * CardinalFang does it now.
[23:24] <karni> cool
[23:28] <duanedesign> karni: and it is done
[23:28] <karni> duanedesign: muchly thank you!
[23:28] <duanedesign> god idea. I am anxious to see what kind of response you get
[23:28] <duanedesign> s/god/good
[23:29] <duanedesign> karni: I started 'Questions' on the facebook page. The first question was what is your favorite U1 feature
[23:30] <duanedesign> karni: Android App was number one, until the new plans came out and 5GB storage is now 1 Android Aoo 2
[23:32] <karni> duanedesign: hahahah, sweet. thanks :)
[23:32] <ralsina> karni: isn't it like 3 AM over there? GO TO SLEEP DUDE :-D
[23:33] <karni> ralsina: only 1:33 ;)
[23:34] <karni> ralsina: I'll leave in 1h tops. probably :)
[23:34] <ralsina> hehehe I don't believe you ;-)
[23:34] <karni> hyhyhy
[23:35] <karni> ralsina: in the mean time, I purchased a VPS at hezner. I was shocked it took only like 15-20 minutes to have it set up with Ubuntu 10.04.
[23:35] <ralsina> hezner? Had not heard of them
[23:36] <ralsina> I have some at tektonic.net and one very cheap one at burst.net
[23:37] <karni> ralsina: burst.net is pretty cheap indeed o_O
[23:37] <nhaines> prgmr.net is only $5/mo for 1.5GB space and 64MB RAM.  :)
[23:38] <nhaines> Whoa, burst.net *is* cheap!  o_O;;
[23:39] <karni> nhaines: hahah, that's a little to little :) still, someone might like that $5/mo option
[23:39] <nhaines> karni: it works for me!  Just idling in IRC all day and occasionally playing nethack.  :)
[23:39] <karni> nhaines: :)
[23:40] <ralsina> karni: I got one with a coupon for $4.50 a month
[23:41] <karni> nice
[23:41] <ralsina> I think it's the 256 or 512 RAM 10GB disk
[23:41] <nhaines> I'm going to keep an eye on burst.net if I need something serious in the future.
[23:41] <ralsina> I have never done anything too heavy on burst, but rye uses them and likes them. Good for a US VPN/proxy too
[23:42] <nhaines> Netflix fans take note I guess!
[23:43] <ralsina> nhaines: have not tried netflix, but with openvpn, squid and iptables you can fool Hulu ;-)
[23:44] <nhaines> Oh, well, there you go.  ;)
[23:45] <karni> on burst.net you'd have to request installation of Ubuntu (if you wish), it's not listed
[23:46] <karni> but pricing is really good
[23:47] <nhaines> karni: Ubuntu 8, 9, and 10 are listed.
[23:48] <karni> nhaines: can't see 'ubuntu' keyboard on http://burst.net/policy/managed.shtml
[23:48] <karni> nhaines: where did you find it
[23:48] <karni> ?
[23:48] <nhaines> karni: http://burst.net/linvps.shtml
[23:49] <karni> awesome