[11:06] <ScottL> no image again to day :(
[11:23] <astraljava> Ahh... yeah, due to imsomnia for the past 6 months, I'm now finally beginning to fall asleep. So much so, that I fell asleep with my laptop still in my hands last night. Thus I didn't get to push the seed changes, nor notify Luke for uploading them. I'll get to that tonight, so we should have images tomorrow. Sorry about that.
[13:05] <astraljava> &win 21
[13:05] <astraljava> Nice.
[13:05] <astraljava> Levi always switches the key layout to US.
[14:06] <charlie-tca> no images again. errors appear to be server side errors
[14:07] <charlie-tca> asking in -release to have it checked out
[14:14] <charlie-tca> cjwatson is investigating now. He did kick another spin though
[14:22] <charlie-tca> If the images fail to build, and the errors are what is in today's log at 
[14:22] <charlie-tca> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ubuntustudio/oneiric/daily-20110823.log
[14:23] <charlie-tca> the main errors being 
[14:23] <charlie-tca> W: Failed to fetch file:/srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/ftp-universe/dists/oneiric/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[14:23] <charlie-tca> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[14:23] <charlie-tca> make: *** [apt-update] Error 100
[14:23] <charlie-tca> notify #ubuntu-release to kick another build. 
[15:27] <charlie-tca> scott-work: cjwatson moved the build of ubuntustudio by 12 hours in hopes of making it work better.
[15:31] <astraljava> charlie-tca: Oh! that means it's gonna be rolled in a couple of hours, then?
[15:32] <charlie-tca> They are out already
[15:32] <charlie-tca> Got images for today, 23.1
[15:32] <astraljava> Hmm, I seem to recall that they are built at around 10 UTC. Maybe my recollection fails.
[15:33] <charlie-tca> but now the build will spin 12 hours from where it was, to try and avoid the build errors. 
[15:33] <charlie-tca> If they were building around 10 AM, it will move to 10 PM
[15:34] <charlie-tca> It seems kind of drastic to me, but if gets the images to build... 
[15:34] <astraljava> Yeah okay. So the next build is in a little bit more than 24 hours from now.
[15:34] <astraljava> It doesn't really matter in the long run.
[15:34] <astraljava> As long as people know when it happens, they can time their uploads (unless falling asleep while preparing the uploads, like in my case)
[15:34] <charlie-tca> right
[15:35] <charlie-tca> It might build new ones tonight, in about 5 hours
[15:35] <charlie-tca> but anyway, at least you got images now
[15:36] <falktx> hm, nice, are they installable?
[15:36] <charlie-tca> You have to sync again for today, since the first set failed again. Hopefully, you start getting them everyday again
[15:36] <astraljava> Yeah, but it's without the changes we needed. And I'm not sure whether I am finished with work in time, and whether there's anyone pushing the seeds in case i am.
[15:36] <charlie-tca> I don't know about installable, my thought was no images means you can't even find out
[15:36] <astraljava> Exactly.
[15:37] <falktx> hm, oneiric is failing to download updated packages, anyone has this issue?
[15:38]  * falktx wonders if archive.ubuntu.com is down
[15:38] <charlie-tca> That one seems to be hit and miss. Maybe the archives are updating right now?
[15:39] <falktx> probably, but it never happened to me like this
[15:40] <charlie-tca> They pushed a new kernel yesterday, did it break everything again?
[15:40] <charlie-tca> checking updates; I use the us.archive.ubuntu.com
[15:42] <scott-work> charlie-tca: is he permantly setting the studio build to later?  might his fix the continuing problem of the failed builds?
[15:42] <charlie-tca> yes, permantly. He is hoping it will fix the problem
[15:43] <charlie-tca> me too hoping. I keep bugging him to get them built again, and it really is a server problem
[15:43] <falktx> hm, ubuntu repo seems good again
[15:43] <falktx> weird
[15:44] <charlie-tca> Yup, you hit during an update then
[15:52] <falktx> hehe, later
[16:03] <scott-work> he left already, but i'll have to thank charlie about this
[16:03] <astraljava> I think the newly-found cooperation with the xubuntu guys is already paying the overhead off thousandfold, no?
[16:06] <scott-work> haha, yeah!
[16:06] <scott-work> astraljava: did you see my comments last night about changing/pushing to the seeds?
[16:07] <scott-work> i added gladish, removed lashd, added some plugins, added pulseaudio-module-jack
[16:07] <astraljava> Sadly, I haven't yet had time to read the backscroll. I thought I'd get out of work early today, but still here I am, stumbling around in the dark.
[16:07] <scott-work> after talking with a few people i think i will also add swh-ladspa back into the audio-plugins
[16:07] <astraljava> Oh good! Did you touch the desktop seed?
[16:07] <scott-work> i had removed it when i added swh-lv2 but apparetnly it's not a feature parity between then
[16:07] <scott-work> astraljava: no, i did not touch desktop seeds
[16:08] <astraljava> Okay cool, saves me from merging.
[16:08] <scott-work> i did, however, forget to make changes to the fonts seeds which i should do tonight
[16:08] <scott-work> good :)
[16:08] <scott-work> we work good together, without any coordination we managed to not step on each other's toes :)
[16:08] <scott-work> i had a good conversation in google chat last night with cory about the direction of ubuntu studio
[16:08] <astraljava> Right on. :) Yeah, I'll try to come up with an updated desktop tonight BEFORE I'll fall asleep again, but I'm afraid it won't hit the delayed image spin.
[16:09] <scott-work> i'm laying out my thoughts on choosing newbies as our audience and he plays the devil's advocate
[16:09] <scott-work> ;)
[16:09] <astraljava> Yeah, well it wouldn't have been a big issue, I'd just have had to make a three-way merge, that's all.
[16:09] <astraljava> Hahah. :)
[16:10] <scott-work> he's not being bad or a downer, he's actually being very constructive and helping me really think this through and make sure it's the right thing :)
[16:12] <astraljava> Well, that's good to hear.
[17:15] <scott-work> i've completed a few things and very shortly i should write an email, probably back to cory's email, about the direction we are taking
[17:15] <scott-work> probably should also post it in the ubuntu forums
[18:29] <astraljava> Has he made that wiki page he promised?
[18:29] <astraljava> I have seen no mention of it since.
[18:29] <astraljava> Okay, I'm home now, so gonna walk the dog, eat some, and then roll the sleeves.
[19:13] <scott-work> sorry astraljava, webchat froze up on me, don't know how long it had been before i realized it, i'll check the log to make sure i read everything
[19:18] <scott-work> cory has made a wiki page for his ideas but i don't know that he has added to it much
[19:18] <scott-work> found the page:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/NewStudio
[19:39] <scott-work> we have an image now :)
[19:39] <scott-work> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/daily/20110823.2/
[19:55] <astraljava> Okay, but that still won't do. The desktop seed hasn't been updated.
[19:55] <astraljava> I ran out of time.
[19:57] <charlie-tca> That one might be the new time for it. being .2, that is the second set for today, so expect a new image about the same time tomorrow
[19:59] <astraljava> Isn't that the third? Without the dot and a number is the first, .1 being the second etc.
[20:00] <charlie-tca> right, which is what makes me think that is the cron job that was reset today
[20:01] <charlie-tca> Kind of a strange time to kick it, but if it works, it will be okay, after today.
[20:04] <scott-work> sorry, was just pointing out that it seemed to work at this time of day
[20:06] <charlie-tca> That was the logic used to move it, too. something about parallel builds?
[20:07] <charlie-tca> and updating main and universe at the wrong times
[20:07] <charlie-tca> At least we got the images :)
[20:15] <scott-work> charlie-tca: absolutely!