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madnickxunubi: terminal + nano launcher.desktop :)00:00
madnickbut yeah00:01
madnickthat sounds odd00:01
xunubiExec=wine'/home/xunubi/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/World of Warcraft/Wow.exe'00:01
madnickmake it00:01
madnickExec=wine /home/xunubi/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/World of  Warcraft/Wow.exe00:02
madnickAcctually might need separtors00:02
madnicknot sure00:02
madnicktry that00:02
madnick:)00:02
madnickIts just passed to argv, so not sure if that space will make it argv[2], perhaps the launcher takes care of that :)00:03
xunubiI copied it, exactly as you posted, I got "error - failed to execute command ... it cuts the command short, finishing at "drive_c/Program" (No such file or directory)00:04
madnickyeah00:04
madnickfigures :)00:04
madnickdo00:04
madnick/home/xunubi/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/World\ of\ WarCraft/Wow.exe00:04
madnick:)00:04
madnickfix that caps C :P00:05
Unit193madnick: Would this help at all? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft00:06
madnickNot me :)00:06
madnickwine "C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\WoW.exe"00:06
xunubinot unless it is specifically for XFCE Unit193, I've ran wow successfully for a long time on linux, it seems to be a problem with thunar00:06
madnickmight work00:06
xunubibut thanks for suggestion00:06
madnicktry that as command00:07
madnickif mine did not work00:07
xunubineither work, error box just waves at me some more and sticks out its tongue lol00:07
madnick:\00:09
madnickOdd indeed :)00:09
xunubiOh well, it's probably doing me a favour, now I will do something productive instead of kill pixels with more pixels in a world full of pixels :)00:10
madnickWell, you can still run it lol00:10
madnickJust not directly with that00:10
madnickxunubi: I hate to ask but, you do have wine right?00:11
xunubimadnick: hehe yes. though one weird thing during install, it included wine tricks, which it usually doesn't when i install from terminal (sudo apt-get update | sudo apt-get install wine)00:12
madnick:)00:13
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xunubiFixed it the lazy way.  Sudo apt-get remove Thunar | Sudo apt-get install Nautilus lol.00:23
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GridCubeD: why would anyone want to use nautilus on xfce?00:46
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JoeR1is anyone awake??01:38
charlie-tcano01:39
charlie-tca!ask01:39
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)01:39
charlie-tcaIf you need to just chat, we have #xubuntu-offtopic01:39
charlie-tcaJoeR1: we are a small group, and the channel is not even close to being as busy as #ubuntu01:40
JoeR1charlie-tca, I don't need to chat i was just trying to see if someone was here01:41
charlie-tcaWe have people here all the time, but the channel is relatively quiet most of the time.01:41
JoeR1Xubuntu has once again lost all of the xfce functionality01:41
charlie-tcaexplain01:41
JoeR1I was hoping I could get that list of things to run in terminal again01:41
JoeR1the desktop contextual menu is gone01:42
JoeR1for example01:42
charlie-tcaoh, your desktop is messing with you again01:42
JoeR1indeed01:42
JoeR1and you helped me before but I forgot the names of the things to run01:42
charlie-tcaCheck that xfce4-session, xfce4-settings-helper, xfwm4, and xfdesktop are running. If any of these fail to start, the desktop will not start correctly.01:42
charlie-tcaIt may be necessary to install or start any of these:01:43
charlie-tcaxfce4-settings-helper01:43
charlie-tcaxfce4-session01:43
charlie-tcaxfwm401:43
charlie-tcaxfdesktop401:43
charlie-tcaxfce4-panel &&01:43
charlie-tcaexcept that should be xfdesktop instead of xfdesktop401:43
charlie-tcaoh, crap01:44
JoeR1I think xfdesktop got it01:44
charlie-tcaI got it backwards, it should be xfdesktop4 instead of xfdesktop01:44
JoeR1look sgood, thanks charlie01:44
JoeR1no, on my machine it is xfdesktop01:44
charlie-tcayou are welcome. Drop by again when you feel like it.01:44
charlie-tcahard to keep all these versions straight sometimes01:45
JoeR1xfdesktop4 doesn't exist on my machine for some reason, I remember that from the last time01:45
JoeR1I hear you, thanks again01:45
JoeR1Oh, by the way, this time it had a very foolish reason (unlike last time when there was no reason)01:46
JoeR1I was changing my desktop "theme" settings01:46
JoeR1then it just lost it01:46
charlie-tcastay away from wildbush, it will lock you out of the desktop01:49
JoeR1what is wildblush?01:50
JoeR1or wildbush01:50
knomecharlie-tca, i wonder if it's removed from oneiric.01:50
charlie-tcano01:50
charlie-tcabut it is supposed to have been fixed01:51
knomeright...01:51
charlie-tcaJoeR1: it is a window manager theme01:51
charlie-tcafound in Settings -> Window Manager01:51
charlie-tcait might be fixed. I just haven't tried it lately to make sure.01:52
JoeR1oh, well no rpoblem I was just changing a few visual queue's to match a background01:52
JoeR1hey do you know if there is a way to change the color of the fonts used on the desktop icons?01:53
charlie-tcaknome knows01:53
CorvusAnyone have any idea how to force Xubuntu to allow a resolution higher than 1024x768? I have an integrated Intel 915 graphics controller.01:53
knomecharlie-tca, JoeR1: don't know, sorry :/01:53
charlie-tcaCorvus: installed the hardware driver?01:54
CorvusYes.01:54
JoeR1sounds to me like get a better card but I'll bet your using a laptop01:54
knomeJoeR1, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/change-colors-xfce-icon-text-and-text-background-470494/01:54
knomeJoeR1, looks like you need to edit the gtk theme01:55
CorvusOnly shows 1024x768 and a 0.0 refresh rate.01:55
JoeR1sweet, thanks knome01:56
knomenp01:56
charlie-tcaCorvus: this might help - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/KernelModeSetting01:56
CorvusExcellent. I'll give it a shot. Thanks!01:57
charlie-tcaor this one - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution01:57
JoeR1knome - do you know an alternate location for the .gtkrc file? It is not where the post suggested.01:59
JoeR1charlie-tca, - some day I will have to put some research into finding out why my system seems to be different from how it should be02:00
knomeJoeR1, /usr/share/themes/themename02:01
JoeR1thanks again02:01
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JoeR1Xubuntu crashed, it was fun02:14
JoeR1but now I have a question, is there a way for me to modify the text that shows for a specific action, for example I want to change "Empty Trash" to "Exterminate Trash"02:15
charlie-tcaNot without a lot of work02:16
JoeR1work I am willing to put in02:16
JoeR1perhaps there is a guide online?02:16
rubenI installed Xubuntu 11.04. I have a Canon MP250 printer. Cant install the drivers.02:17
charlie-tcathen grep the hard drive for the phrase, to find the file it is in, and change it, and if needed, re-compile/re-build Xfce02:17
rubenCan someono help me?02:17
JoeR1very well, I may be gone for some time02:17
rubenI installed Xubuntu 11.04. Cant install drivers for printer Canon MP25002:18
charlie-tca!patience02:18
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/02:18
JoeR1ruben, give me sec there is a list of printers that don't work with linux I think I have bookmarkd02:18
charlie-tcamost printers do not need separate drivers for linux02:18
rubenThis isnt listed in printer options when I try to install it02:19
JoeR1well to be fair it is a list of printer that are "useless in linux" - my printer was on the list, but I suppose thee is probably a way to make it work02:20
charlie-tcaYou can try a different but similar printer, that usually works02:20
knome"different but similar"02:21
rubenThanks, Charlie, I tried several in the list without success02:21
charlie-tcaI had an hp6L, hp4, hp2, both worked as drivers for it02:22
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localuserI can't get panel to work02:27
JoeR1I just experienced my second xubuntu crash in 30 minutes and I was wondering if maybe someone has heard of the specific symptoms I experienced02:32
localuserwait, i think panel may have gotten removed somehow02:33
localuserWhat's the package name of panel?02:33
JoeR1oh I was just doing this, let me see if I can remember02:34
JoeR1xfce4-session, xfce4-settings-helper, xfwm4, and xfdesktop02:35
JoeR1try those02:35
JoeR1also try xfdesktop402:35
JoeR1brb,  I have to use the restroom02:36
localuserIt launches and does everything else fine, as far as i know panel is the only broken thing on that account02:36
knomelocaluser, alt+f2 > xfce4-panel02:38
localuserthe command doesn't work02:39
localusertried that, and the entry in the settings manager won't launch anything02:39
localuserpanel works fine on a newly made account, though02:40
knomelocaluser, if you run that command in terminal, what happens?02:41
knomelocaluser, you probably want to remove .cache at least, that might solve the issue02:42
localuserif i switch to that account and run it, it just give me the command not found error02:43
knomelocaluser, if the command is not found, the xfce panels can't work in any user account02:44
knomelocaluser, or then there is something really wrong02:44
localuserwhich is why it puzzles me02:44
knomelocaluser, you can always do 'sudo apt-get install xfce4-panel' to be sure.02:44
knomealso, try removing .cache02:45
knomefrom the users home dir02:45
localuserit acted weird on shutdown one day, the panel disappered, and programs just stopped one by one, running until then02:45
localuserit took a minute or two, then it wouldn't halt after the screen blacked, so i had to do a hard shutdown02:47
localuserI did a fsck recently when some errors apperead, so disk corruption maty explain some of it02:48
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localuserhow do I enable root login with the gui?03:04
knomewhy do you need to do that? it's not safe.03:07
localuserI just like to be able to03:09
localuserI've had it enabled on my other installs but forgot how I did it03:09
knomewell, i've never done that so i can't help you. but also, i don't really really suggest it.03:14
localuserI know jaunty has a setting for it in a menu somewhere03:15
bazhangno it does not03:16
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carcinogen75how i can control autorun programs in xfce?07:57
carcinogen75where this list of programs store?07:58
Sysicarcinogen75: settings → sessions and startup → autostart tab08:00
Sysior you can save session on logout08:00
carcinogen75thank you, thats what i need08:02
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paul_ukhey all, just installed a fresh install and have the 3d drivers installed.  I have 2 displays, how do I extend the primary instead of mirroring them?14:38
mogitaffyou can use arandr or grandr (GUI for xrandr)14:39
paul_ukmogitaff: do i need to install that?14:40
mogitaffit's better yes :þ14:41
paul_ukmogitaff: bloody hell that was easy.  thanks very much for that!14:43
mogitaffyou're welcome :)14:44
paul_ukwhat is the dock called at the bottom?  im trying to google a way to disable it.  Not really a fan of them14:47
mogitaffit's a panel14:48
mogitaffyou can config it with right clic14:48
mogitaffright clic on panel > panel > panel preferences14:49
paul_ukmogitaff: again, thank you for that.  first day with xubuntu :).14:49
mogitaffyou can remove it in the dialog box14:49
paul_ukyeah it's done :)14:50
mogitaffand not the last ! :D14:50
mogitaffcongratulations14:50
paul_ukmogitaff: heh, it was really a process of elimination for me.  F13 died, so tried F15, didn't work.  Tried ubuntu, didn't work.  xubuntu does, so here I am ;)14:52
mogitaff:o)14:52
jnsl_the notification area applet is not playing nice with the wireless icon on xubuntu, sometime it disappear and sometimes (i think its the wireless) it makes a ton of white space on the dock14:53
jnsl_using AWN dock14:53
mogitaffhave you look NetworkManager configuration ?14:55
paul_ukhey all, so i use grandr to setup my dual display.  i reboot and it's back to being cloned.  so how do i setup my displays to being streched upon each reboot?15:18
mogitaffin arandr, you can save the configuration et in grandr you can modify the layout15:20
mogitaffthe clone is on gdm or after logon ?15:20
paul_ukmogitaff: the clone is before and after login15:23
mogitaffbecause on gdm the clone is normal15:23
paul_ukmogitaff: i can modify the layout but i don't see an option to say save this config15:23
mogitaffbut after login, you should be in dual screen15:23
mogitaffthe 'save button' is in arandr :þ15:23
paul_ukmogitaff: im dual screen always, but it's a clone rather than a stretch.  i want to move a window from screen A to B15:23
knomepaul_uk, which grapichs card you have?15:24
paul_ukmogitaff: I've just got OK, Cancel and Apply.15:24
paul_ukknome: GTS 45015:24
knomepaul_uk, nvidia? try nvidia-settings15:25
paul_ukknome: this isn't a gfx issue. It's a xorg.conf not getting updated by grandr15:25
knomepaul_uk, yes, but nvidia-settings can do that15:25
paul_ukknome: im not using the nvidia drives, im using the 3d ones15:25
knomepaul_uk, the experimental ones?15:25
paul_ukknome: yes15:25
knomepaul_uk, okay15:25
knomepaul_uk, the nvidia drivers are fabulous, btw ;)15:26
paul_ukknome: I'm sure they are, but they don't work for me.  All I get is a blank screen after boot up15:26
knomepaul_uk, oh, too bad :( never had problems with them.15:26
paul_ukknome: hehe.  Well unfortunately I am not you.. ;)15:26
paul_ukso is there a way of updating xorg.conf or do i need to update this myself?15:27
knomepaul_uk, mmh. weird to hear your card is not working though, because i've used both older and newer cards recently with the driver, and now problems15:27
paul_ukknome: i dunno.  it could be because im using a really old P4 board and its not supplying it with enough juice15:28
knomepaul_uk, maybe, but it's hard to see how it would mean you can use the open source drivers but not the nvidia propietary drivers15:28
paul_ukknome: well after 2 weeks of playing with different distributions.  Fedora and Ubuntu.  I am just glad to have a working system again.15:29
knomepaul_uk, yeah, i understand... did you try to debug the nvidia drivers, or just went for the exp ones?15:30
paul_ukknome: I tried all morning to debug the nvidia ones with ubuntu.  Then I installed xubuntu and saw the 3d option and used that and its working.  Well with this issue, but at least its working...15:30
knomepaul_uk, yeah. arandr should be able to save the configuration though. have you ran it as root?15:31
paul_ukknome: well its grandr that I'm using, should i use arandr?15:31
knomehmm, haven't used them at all, but just a sec, i'll check what grandr says15:32
knomepaul_uk, well, grandr should work too, but you should run that as root too15:33
paul_ukknome: ok now I know what you mean by saving it lol.  I'm using arandr now and I see that option.  It's totally missing from grandr.15:34
knome:)15:34
paul_ukknome: it's asking me for a filename to saveas..  what should it be?15:34
knome/etc/X11/xorg.conf is the default location15:36
mogitaffend of day15:37
mogitaffbye15:37
paul_ukactually it outputs to a .sh file which is line that executes xandr.  I've seen my xorg.conf file and it's 3 lines lol15:41
knomea-ha. then you can make that .sh file run at boot15:41
paul_ukknome: rather not.  xorg should be populated properly15:42
paul_ukgreat, xorg is failing to create a conf file...15:45
charlie-tcaNo longer required15:48
Sysipaul_uk: you mentioned you installed 3D driver, propietary ati/nvidia tool?15:48
Sysis/tool/driver15:48
knomeSysi, no, he has the exp15:48
Sysiit would be sad to say "too bad" for open driver15:49
SysiXorg -configure only works when you don't have X running, xrandr script should work15:50
paul_ukSysi: yes I am aware of that.  I'm stopping gdm before I try to rewrite xorg.conf15:54
paul_ukthere is actually a xorg.conf.new that is created when i save the display settings with arandr.  but that fails to do anything of worth lol.15:54
paul_ukthe only way to resolve my issue is to run the .sh file.  oh well.15:54
paul_ukknome: where do i put this .sh file so that it runs at boot?15:55
knomepaul_uk, check applications -> settings -> settings manager -> sessions and startup -> tab application autostart15:56
knomepaul_uk, (you don't need dualhead before desktop, do you?)15:56
paul_ukknome: before desktop, what do you mean?15:56
paul_ukknome: before I log in?15:56
knomeyes15:56
paul_ukknome: nah im happy for it to be clone when i log in15:56
knomeokay, then the option i suggested works fine15:57
paul_ukok im testing it now..  is there a reason when i choose to reboot it goes to the login screen and then i have to choose to restart? O_o15:59
paul_ukknome: thanks for that, now my displays are playing ball.  :)  Cheers for your help!16:00
knomethat's a bug, don't know how to fix it though. Sysi might know16:00
knomeno problem, happy to help16:01
paul_ukknome: lol..  oh well i won't be rebooting much anyway.16:01
knomepaul_uk, heh, yeah. once a day for me too...16:01
Sysiafaik there isn't any known fix16:03
knomei might be wrong, but it has something to do with the way panel is started16:05
GridCubehey people, if you think you know a question you see popping in here often and feel it need to be added to the top 10 FAQ please highlight me16:07
knomeGridCube, just for reference, the way i gathered the FAQ last time was going through logs of 2 months just after a release, so i pretty much gathered the most frequent questions for the new release :)16:09
knomeGridCube, i know that's some work, but actually you can browse the logs through quite quickly, since you only need to group questions, not read the conversations itself16:09
GridCubei have done that16:10
GridCubei mean, im doing that16:10
GridCubebut the problem is that there is so many single questions, i've reduced it to 6 so far16:11
knomeGridCube, mm, yeah16:12
GridCubeand im afraid it will be biased by my impressions and not the real thing16:12
knomeGridCube, can one see the progress somewhere?16:12
GridCubeyes16:13
* GridCube internets are not cooperating16:13
knomeinternetS ?16:14
knome:)16:14
GridCubehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1HyhsMPDyyN-mRWRujfZX3JuKX9aWFQPWsxMEiJX99gQ/edit?hl=es16:14
GridCubeyep, the internets16:14
GridCubegiven that the internets are made of hundreds of different nets its internets, and no internet16:14
LogicallyDashingThe xfce4 terminal isn't taking my ALT key. I can get the same effect by using ESC as a prefix but I don't think I should have to do that.16:47
charlie-tcaI usually just use what works now instead of what I think should work.16:50
paul_ukhey guys, really noob question but can't work it out and too many results in google.  How do I map a network drive?17:28
Sysicheck out gigolo17:28
paul_ukcool thanks for that!17:29
paul_ukthere's me thinking i could connect to milfs and hire myself out :p17:30
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d0lphchrisThi guys, my system has just hang up and i would appreciate some troubleshooting ;)20:26
d0lphchrisTI'm a C programmer but I don't know much about Linux.20:27
d0lphchrisTI'm using Xubuntu with 3 XServer for my 3 screens.20:27
d0lphchrisTAfter restarting I get a blackscreen after the Xubuntu-Logo without any further messages20:28
d0lphchrisTDoes somebody know in which log-files i should search for what?20:28
charlie-tcalook in /var/log/Xorg.0.log20:30
charlie-tcaThat should have any issues as warnings or errors20:30
d0lphchrisTok thx, i will one moment please...20:30
d0lphchrisTI'm sorry I can't find the thing that might be wrong would you might have a look at the log file?20:38
charlie-tcaIf that doesn't show anything, maybe /var/log/syslog does?20:39
d0lphchrisTI will take a look20:39
d0lphchrisTThe last entry there is this one:20:41
d0lphchrisTAug 23 22:19:45 fnord kernel: [   70.533914] firefox-bin[1821]: segfault at 4 ip b4e8fc18 sp bf9a4a80 error 4 in fglrx-libGL.so.1.2[b4e16000+c9000]20:41
d0lphchrisTwhich i find a bit odd, because I'm not even getting to the login screen20:41
charlie-tcausing ati video?20:42
d0lphchrisTyes20:42
d0lphchrisTI got an ATI Radeon HD 5700 and the newest catalyst compiled manually20:42
charlie-tcaThat seems to be where the problem is, then.20:42
charlie-tcafglrx-libGL.so.1.320:43
charlie-tcafglrx-libGL.so.1.220:43
charlie-tcarather20:43
charlie-tcabut I don't know how to fix it20:43
d0lphchrisTok I will do some research, thanks for the help20:43
charlie-tcamaybe this will help - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen20:44
charlie-tcaor this one - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver20:45
d0lphchrisTthanks, I'll have a look20:47
d0lphchrisTI've just remembered that I've updated the XServer today, I think this caused the problem.21:00
d0lphchrisTDo you know how I can reverse an update? Is there some kind of package with an older revision i can get?21:00
d0lphchrisTI've tried to look inside the /var/cache/apt/archives/ like the first article tells, but there's only the current version21:00
charlie-tcaI don't. I could refer you to #ubuntu-x, where those who wrote that sometimes hang out21:03
d0lphchrisTok thx21:04
charlie-tcaolder files can be difficult to find. Maybe the cd's have them, too?21:04
d0lphchrisTTrue, I'll have a look. Thanks so far and a nice evening to you :)21:09
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d0lphchrisTHi again, charlie-tca :)21:53
d0lphchrisTSolved the problem.21:53
d0lphchrisTIve purged fglrx, xserver-xorg-video-ati, xserver-xorg-video-radeon, then I've reinstalled the mesa drivers and at least installed fglrx again.21:55
d0lphchrisTThen I had to create a new Xorg.conf for my 3 screens and now it works again.21:55
d0lphchrisTThanks for the help again21:55
JoeR1I have a custom login theme and I do not know how to install it22:19
knomeJoeR1, afaik, you need gdm2setup to accomplish that22:20
JoeR1Is afaik a typo?22:22
knomeno, it's an abbreviation of "as far as i know"22:22
Unit193As far as I know22:22
knomeerm, not abbr, but an acronym :P22:22
JoeR1ah, I never was good with net shorthand22:22
knomei always confuse those two.22:22
JoeR1So I suppose I will have to look into ways to mod out GDM or possible alternatives22:23
JoeR1does anyone have ubuntu-tweak source code, the site appears to be down22:27
JoeR1Nevermind, I suspect I have found a solution22:29
knomeoff for today22:30
knomegood night22:30
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