[00:00] xunubi: terminal + nano launcher.desktop :) [00:01] but yeah [00:01] that sounds odd [00:01] Exec=wine'/home/xunubi/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/World of Warcraft/Wow.exe' [00:01] make it [00:02] Exec=wine /home/xunubi/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/World of Warcraft/Wow.exe [00:02] Acctually might need separtors [00:02] not sure [00:02] try that [00:02] :) [00:03] Its just passed to argv, so not sure if that space will make it argv[2], perhaps the launcher takes care of that :) [00:04] I copied it, exactly as you posted, I got "error - failed to execute command ... it cuts the command short, finishing at "drive_c/Program" (No such file or directory) [00:04] yeah [00:04] figures :) [00:04] do [00:04] /home/xunubi/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/World\ of\ WarCraft/Wow.exe [00:04] :) [00:05] fix that caps C :P [00:06] madnick: Would this help at all? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft [00:06] Not me :) [00:06] wine "C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\WoW.exe" [00:06] not unless it is specifically for XFCE Unit193, I've ran wow successfully for a long time on linux, it seems to be a problem with thunar [00:06] might work [00:06] but thanks for suggestion [00:07] try that as command [00:07] if mine did not work [00:07] neither work, error box just waves at me some more and sticks out its tongue lol [00:09] :\ [00:09] Odd indeed :) [00:10] Oh well, it's probably doing me a favour, now I will do something productive instead of kill pixels with more pixels in a world full of pixels :) [00:10] Well, you can still run it lol [00:10] Just not directly with that [00:11] xunubi: I hate to ask but, you do have wine right? [00:12] madnick: hehe yes. though one weird thing during install, it included wine tricks, which it usually doesn't when i install from terminal (sudo apt-get update | sudo apt-get install wine) [00:13] :) === ubott2 is now known as ubottu [00:23] Fixed it the lazy way. Sudo apt-get remove Thunar | Sudo apt-get install Nautilus lol. === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler === Pici` is now known as Pici === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [00:46] D: why would anyone want to use nautilus on xfce? === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [01:38] is anyone awake?? [01:39] no [01:39] !ask [01:39] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [01:39] If you need to just chat, we have #xubuntu-offtopic [01:40] JoeR1: we are a small group, and the channel is not even close to being as busy as #ubuntu [01:41] charlie-tca, I don't need to chat i was just trying to see if someone was here [01:41] We have people here all the time, but the channel is relatively quiet most of the time. [01:41] Xubuntu has once again lost all of the xfce functionality [01:41] explain [01:41] I was hoping I could get that list of things to run in terminal again [01:42] the desktop contextual menu is gone [01:42] for example [01:42] oh, your desktop is messing with you again [01:42] indeed [01:42] and you helped me before but I forgot the names of the things to run [01:42] Check that xfce4-session, xfce4-settings-helper, xfwm4, and xfdesktop are running. If any of these fail to start, the desktop will not start correctly. [01:43] It may be necessary to install or start any of these: [01:43] xfce4-settings-helper [01:43] xfce4-session [01:43] xfwm4 [01:43] xfdesktop4 [01:43] xfce4-panel && [01:43] except that should be xfdesktop instead of xfdesktop4 [01:44] oh, crap [01:44] I think xfdesktop got it [01:44] I got it backwards, it should be xfdesktop4 instead of xfdesktop [01:44] look sgood, thanks charlie [01:44] no, on my machine it is xfdesktop [01:44] you are welcome. Drop by again when you feel like it. [01:45] hard to keep all these versions straight sometimes [01:45] xfdesktop4 doesn't exist on my machine for some reason, I remember that from the last time [01:45] I hear you, thanks again [01:46] Oh, by the way, this time it had a very foolish reason (unlike last time when there was no reason) [01:46] I was changing my desktop "theme" settings [01:46] then it just lost it [01:49] stay away from wildbush, it will lock you out of the desktop [01:50] what is wildblush? [01:50] or wildbush [01:50] charlie-tca, i wonder if it's removed from oneiric. [01:50] no [01:51] but it is supposed to have been fixed [01:51] right... [01:51] JoeR1: it is a window manager theme [01:51] found in Settings -> Window Manager [01:52] it might be fixed. I just haven't tried it lately to make sure. [01:52] oh, well no rpoblem I was just changing a few visual queue's to match a background [01:53] hey do you know if there is a way to change the color of the fonts used on the desktop icons? [01:53] knome knows [01:53] Anyone have any idea how to force Xubuntu to allow a resolution higher than 1024x768? I have an integrated Intel 915 graphics controller. [01:53] charlie-tca, JoeR1: don't know, sorry :/ [01:54] Corvus: installed the hardware driver? [01:54] Yes. [01:54] sounds to me like get a better card but I'll bet your using a laptop [01:54] JoeR1, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/change-colors-xfce-icon-text-and-text-background-470494/ [01:55] JoeR1, looks like you need to edit the gtk theme [01:55] Only shows 1024x768 and a 0.0 refresh rate. [01:56] sweet, thanks knome [01:56] np [01:56] Corvus: this might help - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/KernelModeSetting [01:57] Excellent. I'll give it a shot. Thanks! [01:57] or this one - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution [01:59] knome - do you know an alternate location for the .gtkrc file? It is not where the post suggested. [02:00] charlie-tca, - some day I will have to put some research into finding out why my system seems to be different from how it should be [02:01] JoeR1, /usr/share/themes/themename [02:01] thanks again === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [02:14] Xubuntu crashed, it was fun [02:15] but now I have a question, is there a way for me to modify the text that shows for a specific action, for example I want to change "Empty Trash" to "Exterminate Trash" [02:16] Not without a lot of work [02:16] work I am willing to put in [02:16] perhaps there is a guide online? [02:17] I installed Xubuntu 11.04. I have a Canon MP250 printer. Cant install the drivers. [02:17] then grep the hard drive for the phrase, to find the file it is in, and change it, and if needed, re-compile/re-build Xfce [02:17] Can someono help me? [02:17] very well, I may be gone for some time [02:18] I installed Xubuntu 11.04. Cant install drivers for printer Canon MP250 [02:18] !patience [02:18] Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ [02:18] ruben, give me sec there is a list of printers that don't work with linux I think I have bookmarkd [02:18] most printers do not need separate drivers for linux [02:19] This isnt listed in printer options when I try to install it [02:20] well to be fair it is a list of printer that are "useless in linux" - my printer was on the list, but I suppose thee is probably a way to make it work [02:20] You can try a different but similar printer, that usually works [02:21] "different but similar" [02:21] Thanks, Charlie, I tried several in the list without success [02:22] I had an hp6L, hp4, hp2, both worked as drivers for it === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [02:27] I can't get panel to work [02:32] I just experienced my second xubuntu crash in 30 minutes and I was wondering if maybe someone has heard of the specific symptoms I experienced [02:33] wait, i think panel may have gotten removed somehow [02:33] What's the package name of panel? [02:34] oh I was just doing this, let me see if I can remember [02:35] xfce4-session, xfce4-settings-helper, xfwm4, and xfdesktop [02:35] try those [02:35] also try xfdesktop4 [02:36] brb, I have to use the restroom [02:36] It launches and does everything else fine, as far as i know panel is the only broken thing on that account [02:38] localuser, alt+f2 > xfce4-panel [02:39] the command doesn't work [02:39] tried that, and the entry in the settings manager won't launch anything [02:40] panel works fine on a newly made account, though [02:41] localuser, if you run that command in terminal, what happens? [02:42] localuser, you probably want to remove .cache at least, that might solve the issue [02:43] if i switch to that account and run it, it just give me the command not found error [02:44] localuser, if the command is not found, the xfce panels can't work in any user account [02:44] localuser, or then there is something really wrong [02:44] which is why it puzzles me [02:44] localuser, you can always do 'sudo apt-get install xfce4-panel' to be sure. [02:45] also, try removing .cache [02:45] from the users home dir [02:45] it acted weird on shutdown one day, the panel disappered, and programs just stopped one by one, running until then [02:47] it took a minute or two, then it wouldn't halt after the screen blacked, so i had to do a hard shutdown [02:48] I did a fsck recently when some errors apperead, so disk corruption maty explain some of it === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [03:04] how do I enable root login with the gui? [03:07] why do you need to do that? it's not safe. [03:09] I just like to be able to [03:09] I've had it enabled on my other installs but forgot how I did it [03:14] well, i've never done that so i can't help you. but also, i don't really really suggest it. [03:15] I know jaunty has a setting for it in a menu somewhere [03:16] no it does not === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [07:57] how i can control autorun programs in xfce? [07:58] where this list of programs store? [08:00] carcinogen75: settings → sessions and startup → autostart tab [08:00] or you can save session on logout [08:02] thank you, thats what i need === EyeWare is now known as EyesIsMine === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === pogay is now known as pog === madnick_ is now known as madnick [14:38] hey all, just installed a fresh install and have the 3d drivers installed. I have 2 displays, how do I extend the primary instead of mirroring them? [14:39] you can use arandr or grandr (GUI for xrandr) [14:40] mogitaff: do i need to install that? [14:41] it's better yes :þ [14:43] mogitaff: bloody hell that was easy. thanks very much for that! [14:44] you're welcome :) [14:47] what is the dock called at the bottom? im trying to google a way to disable it. Not really a fan of them [14:48] it's a panel [14:48] you can config it with right clic [14:49] right clic on panel > panel > panel preferences [14:49] mogitaff: again, thank you for that. first day with xubuntu :). [14:49] you can remove it in the dialog box [14:50] yeah it's done :) [14:50] and not the last ! :D [14:50] congratulations [14:52] mogitaff: heh, it was really a process of elimination for me. F13 died, so tried F15, didn't work. Tried ubuntu, didn't work. xubuntu does, so here I am ;) [14:52] :o) [14:53] the notification area applet is not playing nice with the wireless icon on xubuntu, sometime it disappear and sometimes (i think its the wireless) it makes a ton of white space on the dock [14:53] using AWN dock [14:55] have you look NetworkManager configuration ? [15:18] hey all, so i use grandr to setup my dual display. i reboot and it's back to being cloned. so how do i setup my displays to being streched upon each reboot? [15:20] in arandr, you can save the configuration et in grandr you can modify the layout [15:20] the clone is on gdm or after logon ? [15:23] mogitaff: the clone is before and after login [15:23] because on gdm the clone is normal [15:23] mogitaff: i can modify the layout but i don't see an option to say save this config [15:23] but after login, you should be in dual screen [15:23] the 'save button' is in arandr :þ [15:23] mogitaff: im dual screen always, but it's a clone rather than a stretch. i want to move a window from screen A to B [15:24] paul_uk, which grapichs card you have? [15:24] mogitaff: I've just got OK, Cancel and Apply. [15:24] knome: GTS 450 [15:25] paul_uk, nvidia? try nvidia-settings [15:25] knome: this isn't a gfx issue. It's a xorg.conf not getting updated by grandr [15:25] paul_uk, yes, but nvidia-settings can do that [15:25] knome: im not using the nvidia drives, im using the 3d ones [15:25] paul_uk, the experimental ones? [15:25] knome: yes [15:25] paul_uk, okay [15:26] paul_uk, the nvidia drivers are fabulous, btw ;) [15:26] knome: I'm sure they are, but they don't work for me. All I get is a blank screen after boot up [15:26] paul_uk, oh, too bad :( never had problems with them. [15:26] knome: hehe. Well unfortunately I am not you.. ;) [15:27] so is there a way of updating xorg.conf or do i need to update this myself? [15:27] paul_uk, mmh. weird to hear your card is not working though, because i've used both older and newer cards recently with the driver, and now problems [15:28] knome: i dunno. it could be because im using a really old P4 board and its not supplying it with enough juice [15:28] paul_uk, maybe, but it's hard to see how it would mean you can use the open source drivers but not the nvidia propietary drivers [15:29] knome: well after 2 weeks of playing with different distributions. Fedora and Ubuntu. I am just glad to have a working system again. [15:30] paul_uk, yeah, i understand... did you try to debug the nvidia drivers, or just went for the exp ones? [15:30] knome: I tried all morning to debug the nvidia ones with ubuntu. Then I installed xubuntu and saw the 3d option and used that and its working. Well with this issue, but at least its working... [15:31] paul_uk, yeah. arandr should be able to save the configuration though. have you ran it as root? [15:31] knome: well its grandr that I'm using, should i use arandr? [15:32] hmm, haven't used them at all, but just a sec, i'll check what grandr says [15:33] paul_uk, well, grandr should work too, but you should run that as root too [15:34] knome: ok now I know what you mean by saving it lol. I'm using arandr now and I see that option. It's totally missing from grandr. [15:34] :) [15:34] knome: it's asking me for a filename to saveas.. what should it be? [15:36] /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the default location [15:37] end of day [15:37] bye [15:41] actually it outputs to a .sh file which is line that executes xandr. I've seen my xorg.conf file and it's 3 lines lol [15:41] a-ha. then you can make that .sh file run at boot [15:42] knome: rather not. xorg should be populated properly [15:45] great, xorg is failing to create a conf file... [15:48] No longer required [15:48] paul_uk: you mentioned you installed 3D driver, propietary ati/nvidia tool? [15:48] s/tool/driver [15:48] Sysi, no, he has the exp [15:49] it would be sad to say "too bad" for open driver [15:50] Xorg -configure only works when you don't have X running, xrandr script should work [15:54] Sysi: yes I am aware of that. I'm stopping gdm before I try to rewrite xorg.conf [15:54] there is actually a xorg.conf.new that is created when i save the display settings with arandr. but that fails to do anything of worth lol. [15:54] the only way to resolve my issue is to run the .sh file. oh well. [15:55] knome: where do i put this .sh file so that it runs at boot? [15:56] paul_uk, check applications -> settings -> settings manager -> sessions and startup -> tab application autostart [15:56] paul_uk, (you don't need dualhead before desktop, do you?) [15:56] knome: before desktop, what do you mean? [15:56] knome: before I log in? [15:56] yes [15:56] knome: nah im happy for it to be clone when i log in [15:57] okay, then the option i suggested works fine [15:59] ok im testing it now.. is there a reason when i choose to reboot it goes to the login screen and then i have to choose to restart? O_o [16:00] knome: thanks for that, now my displays are playing ball. :) Cheers for your help! [16:00] that's a bug, don't know how to fix it though. Sysi might know [16:01] no problem, happy to help [16:01] knome: lol.. oh well i won't be rebooting much anyway. [16:01] paul_uk, heh, yeah. once a day for me too... [16:03] afaik there isn't any known fix [16:05] i might be wrong, but it has something to do with the way panel is started [16:07] hey people, if you think you know a question you see popping in here often and feel it need to be added to the top 10 FAQ please highlight me [16:09] GridCube, just for reference, the way i gathered the FAQ last time was going through logs of 2 months just after a release, so i pretty much gathered the most frequent questions for the new release :) [16:09] GridCube, i know that's some work, but actually you can browse the logs through quite quickly, since you only need to group questions, not read the conversations itself [16:10] i have done that [16:10] i mean, im doing that [16:11] but the problem is that there is so many single questions, i've reduced it to 6 so far [16:12] GridCube, mm, yeah [16:12] and im afraid it will be biased by my impressions and not the real thing [16:12] GridCube, can one see the progress somewhere? [16:13] yes [16:13] * GridCube internets are not cooperating [16:14] internetS ? [16:14] :) [16:14] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HyhsMPDyyN-mRWRujfZX3JuKX9aWFQPWsxMEiJX99gQ/edit?hl=es [16:14] yep, the internets [16:14] given that the internets are made of hundreds of different nets its internets, and no internet [16:47] The xfce4 terminal isn't taking my ALT key. I can get the same effect by using ESC as a prefix but I don't think I should have to do that. [16:50] I usually just use what works now instead of what I think should work. [17:28] hey guys, really noob question but can't work it out and too many results in google. How do I map a network drive? [17:28] check out gigolo [17:29] cool thanks for that! [17:30] there's me thinking i could connect to milfs and hire myself out :p === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [20:26] hi guys, my system has just hang up and i would appreciate some troubleshooting ;) [20:27] I'm a C programmer but I don't know much about Linux. [20:27] I'm using Xubuntu with 3 XServer for my 3 screens. [20:28] After restarting I get a blackscreen after the Xubuntu-Logo without any further messages [20:28] Does somebody know in which log-files i should search for what? [20:30] look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log [20:30] That should have any issues as warnings or errors [20:30] ok thx, i will one moment please... [20:38] I'm sorry I can't find the thing that might be wrong would you might have a look at the log file? [20:39] If that doesn't show anything, maybe /var/log/syslog does? [20:39] I will take a look [20:41] The last entry there is this one: [20:41] Aug 23 22:19:45 fnord kernel: [ 70.533914] firefox-bin[1821]: segfault at 4 ip b4e8fc18 sp bf9a4a80 error 4 in fglrx-libGL.so.1.2[b4e16000+c9000] [20:41] which i find a bit odd, because I'm not even getting to the login screen [20:42] using ati video? [20:42] yes [20:42] I got an ATI Radeon HD 5700 and the newest catalyst compiled manually [20:42] That seems to be where the problem is, then. [20:43] fglrx-libGL.so.1.3 [20:43] fglrx-libGL.so.1.2 [20:43] rather [20:43] but I don't know how to fix it [20:43] ok I will do some research, thanks for the help [20:44] maybe this will help - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen [20:45] or this one - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver [20:47] thanks, I'll have a look [21:00] I've just remembered that I've updated the XServer today, I think this caused the problem. [21:00] Do you know how I can reverse an update? Is there some kind of package with an older revision i can get? [21:00] I've tried to look inside the /var/cache/apt/archives/ like the first article tells, but there's only the current version [21:03] I don't. I could refer you to #ubuntu-x, where those who wrote that sometimes hang out [21:04] ok thx [21:04] older files can be difficult to find. Maybe the cd's have them, too? [21:09] True, I'll have a look. Thanks so far and a nice evening to you :) === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [21:53] Hi again, charlie-tca :) [21:53] Solved the problem. [21:55] Ive purged fglrx, xserver-xorg-video-ati, xserver-xorg-video-radeon, then I've reinstalled the mesa drivers and at least installed fglrx again. [21:55] Then I had to create a new Xorg.conf for my 3 screens and now it works again. [21:55] Thanks for the help again [22:19] I have a custom login theme and I do not know how to install it [22:20] JoeR1, afaik, you need gdm2setup to accomplish that [22:22] Is afaik a typo? [22:22] no, it's an abbreviation of "as far as i know" [22:22] As far as I know [22:22] erm, not abbr, but an acronym :P [22:22] ah, I never was good with net shorthand [22:22] i always confuse those two. [22:23] So I suppose I will have to look into ways to mod out GDM or possible alternatives [22:27] does anyone have ubuntu-tweak source code, the site appears to be down [22:29] Nevermind, I suspect I have found a solution [22:30] off for today [22:30] good night [23:36] hola [23:37] hello