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| bambee | morning | 08:54 |
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| ScottK | Good morning bambee. | 12:36 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: Did you give up on -runtime? | 12:36 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: rbelem is doing that | 12:36 |
| ScottK | Beta freeze is tomorrow, so now is a REALLY good time. | 12:36 |
| ScottK | Right, but you are helping him. | 12:36 |
| ScottK | Also was it you that was going to test k3b? | 12:37 |
| Quintasan | Well, I looked at what he did and it was fairly good however he was supposed to push something more | 12:37 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: I can't remember volunteering for that | 12:37 |
| ScottK | Just searched the backscroll. It was yofel. | 12:38 |
| ScottK | yofel: How's k3b? | 12:38 |
| Quintasan | Also, I need to fix workspace :S | 12:38 |
| ScottK | cjwatson would like to know if his patch worked. | 12:38 |
| Quintasan | yofel: MoDaX told me to use dh_shlibdeps -L | 12:39 |
| bambee | Can someone push touchegg in archives please ? the beta freeze is tomorrow... | 13:25 |
| Quintasan | bambee: I'd ask ScottK | 13:37 |
| bambee | ScottK: ping | 13:37 |
| bambee | Could you upload touchegg please? thanks in advance | 13:37 |
| bambee | :) | 13:37 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: PINGO | 13:37 |
| ScottK | bambee: I can accept it, but you want some other MOTU to upload it so I can do that. If I upload, I can't accept. | 13:38 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: ^^^ | 13:38 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Put you admin hat on | 13:38 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: Is it uploaded already? | 13:38 |
| Quintasan | Will be within 3 minutes | 13:38 |
| bambee | I need at least 2 motu | 13:39 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: I'll need your hat for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+bug/831673 as welll | 13:40 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 831673 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "kde-window-manager-gles should depend on libkwineffects1abi2-gles" [High,Confirmed] | 13:40 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: touchegg uploaded | 13:42 |
| bambee | Quintasan: my hero <3 | 13:46 |
| bambee | :D | 13:46 |
| ScottK | bambee: I'll have a look in a bit. | 13:49 |
| yofel | ScottK: sorry, nowhere. I forgot my desktop was on natty and I need that one working and I can't find the optical drive of my thinkpad currently :/ | 13:55 |
| Quintasan | yofel: What needs to be tested? | 13:58 |
| yofel | Quintasan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/671830/ | 13:59 |
| Quintasan | We need to test whether it builds or works? | 14:00 |
| Quintasan | or both? | 14:00 |
| yofel | both | 14:01 |
| Quintasan | I see. If I manage to get workspace done then I'll do it | 14:01 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, pong | 14:02 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: How's runtime? I think you said you had to push something else | 14:02 |
| ScottK | yofel: You could do it using a live CD. | 14:02 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, it is almost ready | 14:03 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, it is already building twice | 14:03 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: Great, let me know if you need help, review or both | 14:03 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, just need to adjust the .install files and the debian/control | 14:03 |
| Quintasan | prepend them with debian/build-whatever-younamedit | 14:04 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, i could not finish these days because my son is sick | 14:04 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, and i spend me free time take care of him | 14:04 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: I would prefer you informed me about it so I could do it :P | 14:05 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, sorry :-( | 14:05 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: Next time take care of your son longer instead of doing packaging :O | 14:05 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, :-D | 14:05 |
| ScottK | bambee: Can you talk to upstream about not including .svn dirs in their next release. | 14:06 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, what i already have is in bzr | 14:06 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, do you have free time to take a look on that? | 14:07 |
| bambee | ScottK: sure | 14:07 |
| Quintasan | Right now? Nope. Later? Yes. | 14:07 |
| ScottK | bambee: Also license headers in the code. | 14:07 |
| bambee | ScottK: what is/are the package(s) ? | 14:08 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, i will have time to finish that in about three hours | 14:08 |
| ScottK | bambee: ls -a * and then look at .svn. | 14:08 |
| ScottK | rbelem: Great. | 14:08 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: Oh I see. I'll hurry up with the books then | 14:09 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, :-) | 14:10 |
| ScottK | bambee: Touchegg source accepted. | 14:13 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: What did you need? | 14:14 |
| yofel | ScottK: true, maybe I'll do that if I have a digikam package done in time since _Groo_ never finished that | 14:15 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: nvm, gotta get to know how it works in the first place | 14:15 |
| ScottK | OK. | 14:15 |
| bambee | ScottK: thanks! | 14:17 |
| ScottK | bambee: Thank you! | 14:18 |
| shadeslayer | \o | 14:18 |
| bambee | ScottK: sorry but none of these packages http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/ have a .svn here... | 14:25 |
| ScottK | bambee: touchegg does. | 14:25 |
| bambee | ah | 14:25 |
| ScottK | ls -a in your touchegg source. | 14:25 |
| bambee | you was talking about touchegg :D | 14:25 |
| ScottK | I was. | 14:25 |
| bambee | xD | 14:25 |
| ScottK | Sorry for the confusion. | 14:25 |
| * bambee drinks another coffee | 14:26 | |
| bambee | np | 14:26 |
| _Groo_ | hi/2 all | 14:35 |
| _Groo_ | anyone awake? | 14:45 |
| shadeslayer | _Groo_: ssup | 14:48 |
| yofel | hm, digikam packaging is fun - they ship the headers in the main binary package o.O | 14:49 |
| _Groo_ | shadeslayer: not much | 14:49 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: they do what | 14:50 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: install digikam and run dpkg -L | 14:50 |
| * shadeslayer installs | 14:51 | |
| yofel | well, digikam2 doesn't install any headers anymore it seems | 14:55 |
| shadeslayer | huh, thats all sorts of weird | 14:56 |
| shadeslayer | \o/ | 14:56 |
| Quintasan | Y U TAKE SO LONG TO BUILD GLES | 14:57 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: yeah it doesnt :) | 15:19 |
| Quintasan | Hmm, that worked yofel | 15:20 |
| Quintasan | I think | 15:20 |
| yofel | yay | 15:20 |
| * Quintasan uploads | 15:21 | |
| Quintasan | I wonder if VBOX talks gles | 15:22 |
| Quintasan | it does? | 15:22 |
| Quintasan | wtf | 15:22 |
| tazz | yofel: are you using google+ ? | 15:22 |
| yofel | no | 15:22 |
| Quintasan | IT'S ALIVE | 15:23 |
| * Quintasan orders party for everyone | 15:23 | |
| Quintasan | kubotu: order party for everyone | 15:23 |
| * kubotu is going to his secret storehouse to get party for everyone - might take some time. | 15:23 | |
| * kubotu is back and slides party down the bar to everyone | 15:23 | |
| Quintasan | :O | 15:23 |
| Quintasan | one-eye-rick has gles now officially | 15:23 |
| * Quintasan does "I did it!" dance | 15:24 | |
| _Groo_ | Quintasan: go run and buy me a hp touchpad while you are at it... ill pay! | 15:25 |
| Quintasan | yofel: It is good day to be running GLES | 15:25 |
| Quintasan | _Groo_: I would order one too -_- | 15:25 |
| tazz | yofel: https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/113125189443372384611/albums/5643327620208523937/5643334858617962066 | 15:26 |
| yofel | Quintasan: my driver doesn't support GLES so I don't care :P | 15:26 |
| yofel | :D | 15:26 |
| * Quintasan thinks yofel looks like some sort of a wiseman | 15:27 | |
| * yofel rather thinks he sucks at smiling... | 15:27 | |
| * _Groo_ thinks yofel has the same firefox thingy around is neck has he does | 15:27 | |
| Quintasan | yofel: You look like: "I know my share of stuff, don't mess with me,yo!" | 15:27 |
| Quintasan | :P | 15:27 |
| yofel | lol | 15:28 |
| _Groo_ | nah he looks like a grown dwarf from disneyland | 15:28 |
| _Groo_ | or a big smurf... | 15:28 |
| Quintasan | lol | 15:28 |
| yofel | ... | 15:28 |
| _Groo_ | let me put a blue alpha layer to see what comes out :D | 15:28 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: it was a compliment :D | 15:28 |
| yofel | :P | 15:28 |
| Quintasan | Nah, you didn't see people roleplaying as dwarves | 15:28 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: it means you look... .. hum.... hmmmmmmm... | 15:29 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: nice? oO | 15:29 |
| Quintasan | like, braid on beard | 15:29 |
| yofel | I looked friendlier with my cap on :P https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/113125189443372384611/albums/5643327620208523937/5643332985083264626 | 15:30 |
| Quintasan | http://krasnoludy.e-gate.pl/image/kubasa/dwarf-runelord.jpg | 15:30 |
| Quintasan | That's how a dwarf look like | 15:30 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: you look like frodo with a beard lololol | 15:30 |
| yofel | _Groo_: I think I'm a tad larger than frodo :P | 15:30 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: matters of scale :D | 15:31 |
| Quintasan | yofel doesn't has a bigass axe and some sort standard | 15:31 |
| Quintasan | yofel: Is that beer you are holding? | 15:31 |
| yofel | yeah, that was the preregistration party at c-base | 15:32 |
| Quintasan | yofel++ for holding beer | 15:32 |
| Quintasan | That should be a requirement for taking any photos there | 15:32 |
| Quintasan | "photo must contain beer somewhere" | 15:32 |
| _Groo_ | Quintasan: beer in belly counts? | 15:33 |
| tazz | Quintasan: i had to take yofel's cap off of his head for that photo. | 15:33 |
| Quintasan | _Groo_: Nope. | 15:33 |
| tazz | i bet yofel is wearing his cap right now. | 15:33 |
| tazz | :P | 15:33 |
| yofel | tazz: nope, I don't wear it at home - but it's with me as soon as I leave the door :P | 15:33 |
| Quintasan | _Groo_: If the photo depicts someone in the process of drinking the beer then bonus points | 15:34 |
| _Groo_ | Quintasan: ah ok | 15:34 |
| * Quintasan goes back to sorting books | 15:34 | |
| tazz | Quintasan: you mean like this https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/113125189443372384611/albums/5643327620208523937/5643330664852790850 | 15:34 |
| _Groo_ | Quintasan: what gives more points, holding beer + girl or beer + gadget? | 15:34 |
| Quintasan | It's hard to decide but if you have both then you get over 9000 points | 15:34 |
| _Groo_ | tazz: ahah nice | 15:35 |
| Quintasan | tazz: Exactly. | 15:35 |
| _Groo_ | Quintasan: you are not a true nerd! the gadget ofc! | 15:35 |
| Quintasan | You can't possibly go wrong with girl AND a gadget! | 15:35 |
| _Groo_ | Quintasan: nerds think that if you have gadgets(n+1) you eventually get the girls | 15:35 |
| _Groo_ | Quintasan: a girl will NEVER get near a nerd.. not sober .. and even worse drunk | 15:36 |
| _Groo_ | Quintasan: thats what restraining orders are for! | 15:36 |
| _Groo_ | Quintasan: also known as "ME space" | 15:36 |
| Quintasan | mgraesslin: Oneiric now has kwin-gles package which works! | 15:36 |
| _Groo_ | Quintasan: will it have any advantage over normal OPENGL for desktops? | 15:36 |
| Quintasan | Ask mgraesslin as I'm not well-versed enough in the GL department | 15:37 |
| Quintasan | Nuff' said. | 15:37 |
| * Quintasan goes back to sorting | 15:37 | |
| maco | _Groo_, Quintasan: uhh....what? | 15:37 |
| mgraesslin | Quintasan: cool - I will probably try a live cd :-) | 15:40 |
| mgraesslin | _Groo_: in general better drivers, a little bit faster thanks to no GLX | 15:41 |
| mgraesslin | but also a few glitches with blur, logout effect not working... | 15:41 |
| _Groo_ | mgraesslin: hmmm ok, tks... | 15:41 |
| _Groo_ | mgraesslin: its mostly a big help for mobile for now :) | 15:42 |
| mgraesslin | oh and GLES is the future | 15:42 |
| _Groo_ | mgraesslin: but will be default in 4.8 right? | 15:42 |
| mgraesslin | also for Desktop - keyword Wayland | 15:42 |
| _Groo_ | mgraesslin: yes yes :) | 15:42 |
| mgraesslin | cannot become the default as long as there is the NVIDIA blob around | 15:42 |
| mgraesslin | but 4.8 will hopefully get runtime detection (we are close, very close) | 15:42 |
| _Groo_ | mgraesslin: oh oh.. i have nvidia blob :P | 15:46 |
| _Groo_ | mgraesslin: and it works quite nicely with opengl + kwin.. its rock solid... | 15:47 |
| mgraesslin | you want a bug list for NVIDIA? | 15:47 |
| Quintasan | mgraesslin: I just want to know how long it is :P | 15:48 |
| yofel | nvidia doesn't usually fall apart at some random moment | 15:48 |
| yofel | not that I don't have any issues with it | 15:48 |
| mgraesslin | yeah like freezing kernel when resizing konsole... | 15:50 |
| Quintasan | yofel: Did you manage to subscribe to TouchPad restock infolist? | 15:50 |
| _Groo_ | anyone knows whats going on with LP 64 bits builds? | 15:50 |
| yofel | _Groo_: what's wrong? | 15:51 |
| Quintasan | _Groo_: Probably prebeta rebuild | 15:51 |
| _Groo_ | did apachelogger sold all 64bits servers for booze again? | 15:51 |
| Quintasan | yofel: queue is like 15h+ | 15:51 |
| Quintasan | :P | 15:51 |
| yofel | only? :P | 15:51 |
| _Groo_ | Quintasan: ahhh that might explain :) | 15:51 |
| apachelogger | the empire's CI farm is faster than that | 15:51 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: I'll be back around 18 UTC | 15:54 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: Quintasan oh yeah, they fixed the reminder email link | 15:58 |
| shadeslayer | bbiab | 15:59 |
| ScottK | bambee: Why does the touchegg desktop start with #!/usr/bin/env xdg-open? | 16:32 |
| ScottK | bambee: I can accept the binaries, but I think that needs to be fixed. | 16:33 |
| bambee | woo! good catch | 16:34 |
| bambee | fixing | 16:34 |
| ScottK | bambee: Lintian run on the binaries will catch that. | 16:36 |
| ScottK | Accepted, so you can fix that in ubuntu2. | 16:37 |
| bambee | sure | 16:37 |
| bambee | usually, I try to pay attention to lintian... | 16:37 |
| ScottK | You probably just ran it against the source (.dsc) | 16:46 |
| bambee | ScottK: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/touchegg | 16:58 |
| ScottK | bambee: Usually we just use REVU for new packages, but I'll have a look. | 17:03 |
| ScottK | bambee: Did you report this bug upstream? | 17:04 |
| ScottK | bambee: Uploaded. Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu. | 17:06 |
| bambee | ScottK: reported on upstream | 17:17 |
| ScottK | Great. Thanks. | 17:17 |
| bambee | I've uploaded to revu because it's useful platform to review packages which goes to archives :) | 17:18 |
| bambee | BUT | 17:18 |
| bambee | it's noted | 17:18 |
| bambee | s/goes/go/ | 17:18 |
| kubotu | bambee: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed" | 17:18 |
| nixternal | hola | 17:27 |
| bambee | ScottK: once the package has been uploaded into archives, we need to update the changelog in lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/touchegg . right? | 17:27 |
| bambee | I mean, replace "UNRELEASED" by "oneiric" | 17:28 |
| bambee | ? | 17:28 |
| ScottK | bambee: Yes. You can do that now that you're a member. | 17:28 |
| bambee | ok | 17:28 |
| nixternal | ScottK: do you have a write up of the newer processes in regards to packaging that I can review? I can do the packaging still, haven't lost that touch, just want to know the process/workflow as it has changed since I have been away | 17:30 |
| ScottK | Heya nixternal. | 17:31 |
| ScottK | nixternal: We were using bzr branches for the debian dirs when you went on hiatus, right? | 17:31 |
| nixternal | yes | 17:31 |
| ScottK | Then other than the location, nothing has really changed. | 17:31 |
| nixternal | oh, well that was easy | 17:31 |
| ScottK | Look at debian/control in the source for where to find them now. | 17:31 |
| nixternal | i am going to be busy the next few days working with a client and then i should have some free time available | 17:32 |
| ScottK | Cool. | 17:32 |
| ScottK | nixternal: Could you fire up the PPC box? | 17:32 |
| nixternal | it went up in flames | 17:32 |
| nixternal | :( | 17:32 |
| ScottK | Crap. | 17:32 |
| ScottK | So I guess the answer is "I already did ...: | 17:33 |
| nixternal | it was turned on when the room was flooded and it fried it | 17:33 |
| ScottK | " | 17:33 |
| nixternal | hahaha | 17:33 |
| ScottK | Oh. | 17:33 |
| nixternal | had no idea it was going on until i heard the cracking and popping coming from the old office space | 17:33 |
| nixternal | insurance gave me a whopping $50 for it :D | 17:34 |
| nixternal | water cooling isn't always the best :p | 17:34 |
| ScottK | Probably about right. | 17:34 |
| bambee | ScottK: do you have a documentation somewhere explaining how to put a package on the CD? | 17:36 |
| nixternal | ok, i will be back later tonight maybe, depending on if i pass out after doing this crap tonight :) | 17:37 |
| ScottK | bambee: Not really. First step is to get a MIR approved. Since we're past FF, you also need an FFe. | 17:37 |
| ScottK | bambee: There's no way to get a MIR approved before beta freeze and I'm a little reluctant to add this to the default install after beta. | 17:38 |
| ScottK | bambee: Would it make more sense to defer adding it to the default install for O? | 17:39 |
| bambee | just asking because I see "put <package> on the CD if space permits" on the blueprint | 17:39 |
| ScottK | Unless somebody REALLY wants it, I think that should be deferred. | 17:40 |
| bambee | ok | 17:40 |
| txwikinger | Does Kubuntu mobile work on an HP touchpad? | 18:47 |
| bulldog98 | txwikinger: try it | 18:51 |
| Quintasan | brrr | 18:52 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: Can you link me to it? | 18:52 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: ping | 18:53 |
| txwikinger | bulldog98: that is not an answer! | 18:55 |
| Quintasan | txwikinger: I'm not sure anyone tried booting Linux on it yet | 18:55 |
| Quintasan | AFAIC there is $2,500 bounty on porting Android to it | 18:55 |
| bulldog98 | txwikinger: I don’t know if anyone tested it yet. Is this answer apropriate? | 18:55 |
| txwikinger | Well.. there are some efforts to put Android 3.0 on it | 18:55 |
| txwikinger | Is there anywhere a list of devices which have been tested with Kubuntu mobile? | 18:56 |
| Quintasan | txwikinger: If you call $2,500 "some" effort :P | 18:56 |
| Quintasan | txwikinger: iMX53 board | 18:56 |
| Quintasan | :P | 18:56 |
| Quintasan | https://wiki.ubuntu. com/ARM/iMX53QuickStartBoard | 18:57 |
| Quintasan | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/iMX53QuickStartBoard | 18:57 |
| Quintasan | clickable | 18:57 |
| txwikinger | hmm.. I have an arm dev board at home.. maybe I should try it there | 18:57 |
| txwikinger | Not sure if it is a iMX53 though | 18:58 |
| ScottK | There's a MX kernel in Oneiric, so that'd be a start. | 19:27 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: same link, hold on | 19:36 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: http://www.hp.com/united-states/webos/us/en/tablet/touchpad-availability.html | 19:37 |
| eMyller | i just installed something from neon, but everything goes into /opt | 19:42 |
| eMyller | to where could i symlink stuff so things will appear at menus and stuff? | 19:42 |
| shadeslayer | eMyller: you login into neon and then compile whatever you want | 19:43 |
| shadeslayer | and it should appear in the menus | 19:43 |
| shadeslayer | eMyller: also, #project-neon | 19:43 |
| eMyller | shadeslayer: i installed from the ppa | 19:44 |
| eMyller | oh, ty | 19:44 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, i'm still busy :-/ | 20:25 |
| Quintasan | No probs. I'll look over at what you have in some time | 20:25 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, i will ping you when i'm back home | 20:26 |
| * yofel uploaded a digikam2 package to ninjas | 21:04 | |
| Quintasan | yofel: Brilliant! | 21:21 |
| * Quintasan waits for rbelem to nail down runtime | 21:22 | |
| yofel | well, it's missing gphoto2 support unless someone figures out how to fix the build | 21:22 |
| Quintasan | yofel: Are we losing much due to missing support on this? | 21:23 |
| Quintasan | for* | 21:23 |
| yofel | well, not sure actually since I don't know what features it provides | 21:27 |
| yofel | although with 2.0 geolocation works again, so we fix one feature and loose another | 21:27 |
| yofel | the package needs a translations recheck though | 21:36 |
| yofel | it has "export KUBUNTU_DESKTOP_POT=extragear-graphics_digikam" but it ships the translations for kipi-plugins too | 21:37 |
| yofel | and I'm clueless how our translation mangling works | 21:37 |
| Quintasan | I'm not actually sure it works at all | 21:37 |
| Quintasan | :P | 21:37 |
| === skreech_ is now known as Daskreech | ||
| Quintasan | GRRRR | 22:20 |
| * Quintasan goes to bed | 22:20 | |
| * JontheEchidna is now gles'ing on the desktop | 23:42 | |
| JontheEchidna | brb | 23:44 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
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