[00:00] yes [00:02] well I would imagine that if -r was a valid option it would be mentioned there... [00:05] nlsthzn-work: that's why I checked there, and that's why I asked if there was an option'like' -r for scp. I guess I'll just work around it then [00:07] bookpage: sorry, if I had a definitive answer I would have given it... === AndrewMC-Laptop is now known as Guest61744 === holstein_ is now known as holstein [01:18] I am having a hard time connecting to my wireless internet through my Ubuntu OS. Am i on the right channel for this? [01:20] geth022: you are... might take a while for a guru to step up and assist you so please be patient (I am a bit up and down at work so I will rather not attempt half heartedly) [01:22] ok! [01:22] geth022, i can try. whats your problem [01:22] okee, it is simply not reading that there is indeed a wireless network [01:22] I am currently connected to said network now, [01:23] my mom's computer is doing fine, i don't quite understand what the problem is [01:23] so your moms computer connects, but yours does not? [01:24] whats the difference between yours and hers? [01:24] Yes, my desktop is connected locally to the modem/router/thing via ethernet, whilst my mothers (Windows 7) is wirelessly connected to the internet [01:25] desktop is Windows XP [01:25] btws... [01:25] hello philipballew ,geth022 [01:25] hey dere! [01:25] so what's up [01:26] okay. do you have your wireless card internally or via a say usb stick? [01:26] coalwater, his wifi wont see any networks [01:26] Wireless internet is being recognized on alll computers, operating systems except for Ubuntu... it is a laptop, its internal [01:27] altight. lets get to the bottom of this [01:27] did u check the wireless guide the ubot has? [01:27] it's a wireless problem? or internet in general? [01:28] geth022, theres not a wifi switch on your laptop for a on and off function correct? [01:29] correct Phil, as for Coal, all other computers are doing fine with it, i had my laptop working fine on the internet with windows 7, but only on Ubuntu it doesn't worok [01:29] even by wire? [01:29] get okay :) open a terminal [01:30] yeah :/ i tried local connection too [01:30] open a terminal? like command prompt? [01:30] maximize the terminal and type lspci -vvv [01:30] yea [01:30] ctrl+alt+t might open it for u [01:30] yeah. but the terminal is much more powerful [01:30] what version of ubuntu are you running [01:31] cool, soo typing it in now... [01:31] philipballew: +1 to that lol [01:31] then copy and paste everything in the terminal to this site here [01:31] holy shit that's a long list... [01:31] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ [01:31] ummmm, i'm on a different computer [01:31] geth022, it gives good info about your hardware inside your laptop :) [01:32] oooo, i see, well, how do you want me to communicate it to you guys? [01:32] hum. connect your laptop via a cat5? [01:32] does that work? [01:32] i've got Ubuntu 10.10 btws [01:33] how new is your laptop/ [01:33] i don't know what any of that cat5 stuff means :(( [01:33] say ethernet or wired connection? [01:33] can you hook it up that way [01:33] reasonably new, just short of coming standard with a webcam [01:33] no, i tried that [01:34] i'm new to OS [01:34] it may be that the laptop is newer then the version of ubuntu therefor lacking the drivers for that model [01:34] *I'm new to OS's that aren't Windows lol [01:34] should i get the 11. 04 version then? [01:35] it can't be just an ip conflict, or dhcp problem? [01:35] no ideas bros... [01:35] well heres what i want you to do. remember when you installed ubuntu 10.10 you had the cd boot into the operating system and then you installed? [01:35] yess [01:35] coalwater, it might easily be that [01:36] do that with 11.04 and see if your internet works [01:36] also do you have a flash drive? [01:37] damn, ok! I... kinda... don't know where it is... [01:37] i have a dvd burner i can use [01:37] How would i go about cleaning up the two OS's i'm not gonna use if it works? [01:38] sure, just copy the output from the terminal onto a text file and then put it onto the compueter with internet. then put it on the site i said or if your unsude you can email it to me and ill do it [01:38] then after that try 11.04 [01:40] ok!, i'll be back in a few minutes ok? i'mm go do that [01:41] alright. i will probably be here. if not someone should [01:43] hey philipballew do u know how to mark several lines in nano to cut them [01:45] coalwater: if you have a mouse higglight them and copy paste using ctrl+shift+c and -v [01:45] I think that should work... [01:45] do you have a mouse coalwater [01:45] * nlsthzn-work hasn't tried it himself [01:45] yea [01:46] but i was wondering of hte keyboard way [01:46] i'm currently using putty to my home pc [01:46] When I open a new document in Dolpin file-manager it opens new instances of Emacs editor or Conkeror web-browser but I prefer to open them in the same/one window. How can I do that ? [01:47] E3D3: it's usually a preference, check dolpin prefrences, cause nautilus has that setting [01:47] o wait, ur case is a lil different [01:48] oh hey, it's got like two hour estimated time to completion, so i might have to log on tomorrow [01:48] i'm not sure how u can do that, because dolpin or any explorer just calls the excutable, and that opens a new window [01:49] hey geth022 , sorry u know i came lil later than when u started asking, so i want to ask something [01:49] okay, i experimented with the arguments but I can't find info about it. [01:49] coalwater: Still thanks [01:50] yup! shoot [01:51] when u use the cable , does the info say that u have an ip ? or does it say that you're not conencted [01:51] it says i am not connected, no network connections [01:51] and there's an option in the network applet, it says enable networking, u make sure it's not disabled [01:52] i'm finding network connections but not a network applet... [01:53] could you tell me whereabouts that's at? [01:54] geth022, looks like a pizza top panel [01:54] pizza slice geth022 [01:54] pizza lol [01:55] but yea it's on the top panel, on the right [01:55] triangualtubular man [01:55] oh i checked there, it said no network devices available [01:55] o [01:55] so it can't see the device [01:56] nope, does that definitely mean i need a new driver/versionofubuntu? [01:56] * nlsthzn-work wonders what ifconfig shows... [01:57] * philipballew and ifconfig -a [01:57] nlsthzn-work, lol [01:58] :p [01:58] what am i looking for? [01:58] write ifconfig -a in a terminal [01:59] ifconfig -a [01:59] i did, shows the same as it did befre [02:00] and what was before lol, i didn't see that [02:00] what doo i need to see? [02:00] it will say the interfaces u have, and the ip's in each [02:01] i see the Ethernet Controller, Network controller, [02:01] zat whatti need? [02:03] !pastebin [02:03] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [02:04] geth022: can you possibly copy paste what you see on a usb device and then copy it into pastebin (see above)? [02:04] that way we can see what you see :) [02:04] or use pastebinit! :D [02:04] o nvm [02:04] u don't have internet LOL [02:04] lol, no connection br ;) [02:04] *bro [02:04] yea lol forgot :D [02:04] umm, i kind of have to make my way uot with some friends right now. [02:05] * nlsthzn-work is going home now... best of luck geth022 and coalwater [02:05] Can i email it later, or contact u at a later time? [02:05] tnx u! [02:05] u can come back here, maybe ull be lucky and find someone more useful [02:06] mmkay, thank you for trying tho! === Don is now known as Guest79933 [02:28] I see a few people on the forums reporting that no buttons respond in the users and groups app and nobody has ever responded. I'm having the same issue on a clean install of Natty. Can anybody help? [02:32] Guest79933, manage groups or advanced settings? [02:42] manage groups responds but I can't add a user or go into advanced settings. The buttons just don't do anything [02:47] I bought today 4GB RAM but System Monitor shows only 2,8 GB. What is wrong ? [02:48] Do I have to fill in a coupon to receive the other 1,4 GB ? [02:48] 1,4 = 1.2 [02:48] E3D3: are you running 64bit os? [02:48] I dont know ? [02:48] I have an Celeron [02:49] Where can I see if Ihave an 64bits OS [02:50] E3D3: run command: grep processor /proc/cpuinfo [02:51] E3D3: um did you install 32bit or 64bit? [02:51] output = 0 [02:51] What does that mean ? [02:51] processor : 0 [02:51] [02:52] means your running 32bit which will not read 4GB of ram [02:52] E3D3: run command: uname -a [02:52] Sh*t [02:52] Sorry [02:53] Linux D3 2.6.32-25-generic #45-Ubuntu SMP Sat Oct 16 19:48:22 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux [02:53] [02:53] see that "i686" there....yep....32bit [02:53] can anyone here help me with fuse? [02:53] with a generic kernel, your not going to see all the ram [02:54] Can I reinstall a 64bits version ? [02:54] bookpage: im sure someone can, probably not me as i rarely blink at fuse [02:56] E3D3: run command: grep flags | grep lm /proc/cpuinfo [02:56] flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc up arch_perfmon pebs bts aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm xsave lahf_lm [02:56] if you see "lm" highlighted or there than you can run 64bit, but with one processor i dbout it [02:56] oh wait [02:56] there ya go [02:56] I saw it, I saw it :-) [02:57] so yes you can run 64bit [02:57] So I'm under-using/abusing my hardware ? [02:57] uh, sure [02:58] gotta go [02:58] Thank you very much & bye [03:20] Does the choice in installable software depend on the choice between Gnome, KDE or LXDE ? I have now Gnome but think that I already have it mixed with KDE-apps but wonder if I can install the same software when I try LXDE ?? [03:21] my cups client computer sees the shared printer on the cups server, but when attempting to print, the job is sent and nothing happens. [03:21] :-( === bkerensa is now known as register === register is now known as bkerensa [11:33] hello, I have this error: [11:33] > ./autogen.sh: 3: aclocal: not found [11:34] I am trying to install torrentzip [11:34] what's torrentzip? [11:34] It for comressing mame roms. [11:35] And I am sure other things. [11:35] roms are binaries, does it compress them much? [11:36] I am not sure the answer, nor the question. I should find a link. [11:37] http://sourceforge.net/projects/trrntzip/files/trrntzip/TorrentZip%20v0.2/ [11:37] r4y: sudo apt-get install build-essential [11:37] Yes I did that first. [11:38] install autoconf and automake too (I wasn't sure if build-essential covered those) [11:39] Here is a guide I am making: [11:39] http://paste.ubuntu.com/673747/ [11:39] http://t7z.sourceforge.net/ [11:39] hoho [11:40] Does automake replace sudo make install? [11:40] r4y: ''./configure; make test'' -> ''./configure && make test'' [11:40] No point in running make if configure fails [11:41] Here is what I have so far, but I haven't used what was suggested here yet: [11:41] http://paste.ubuntu.com/673749/ [11:42] r4y, did you notice my url, your torrentzip is outdated and no longer mainted, as the t7zip is a replacement for it [11:43] I am running Ubuntu 11.04 on VMware. I am sorry I will check it out thank you for the info. [11:43] r4y: Instead of saying cd /home/username/foo, say: cd ~/foo or cd "$HOME/foo" [11:44] Great idea, thank you I will. [11:45] Does the third one need quotes? [11:45] Another issue is that ~/Desktop is localized. On my system it's ~/Skrivebord [11:46] r4y: Preferably, yes. Whenever you have a $var or $(command) or `command`, you want it enclosed in double quotes... for good practice. [11:46] HOME is unlikely to contain any shell syntax that could cause issues though. [11:46] Well, this guide is for Ubuntu users and if they costumized their Linux OS that much then they would know what to do [11:47] I need to go back and read. Thank you all for the info. [11:47] If you during the install of Ubuntu say you live in Spain and speak spanish, your desktop folder will be named with the spanish translation of the word Desktop. [11:49] Well I can't argue with you there, as you know more then I do on this subject [11:49] So did configure fail? [11:51] The outdated version of torrentzip worked for me the last time I tried it. [11:51] zlib's configure seemed to succeed [11:51] Thank you for the help. [11:52] I bookmarked the newer version to share with other, so thank you bioterror for the link. [11:57] automake was already installed, but I don't know what installed it, but that's that. I will try again now. [11:58] aclocal is installed by either autoconf or automake, don't quite remember which. [11:58] http://paste.ubuntu.com/673765/ [11:58] But you generally need both anyway. [11:59] Looks ok, I think you can disregard the warnings. [12:00] OK, next to go then, I'll be back right away [12:01] http://paste.ubuntu.com/673768/ [12:01] Looks good to me so far [12:01] yes [12:02] Then next step they had was make [12:02] but I have seen sudo make install before so I am unsure. [12:02] Do make I guess [12:03] http://paste.ubuntu.com/673772/ [12:04] I should be testing it I guess. I will look for the binary. [12:05] what was that command for finding a binary with a word? [12:05] type? [12:06] It will be trrntzip [12:06] ''type trrntzip'' [12:07] Not found, give me a little. I have text files laying around with this kind of info for future use. [12:08] Well, once you do sudo make install it will install the binaries in /usr/local/bin, unless you specified a different destination with configure [12:08] OK, I will try that and see what happens [12:08] Once it's installed there, type should see it since /usr/local/bin should be in your PATH. [12:10] O yes: [12:10] http://paste.ubuntu.com/673777/ [12:11] I can't remember where I saved that command in a text file, but I am making note. [12:11] Thank you very much for the help. Great job. [12:11] Someone might have told you to use a command called which [12:11] If so, delete that from your file and replace it with type [12:12] which is a highly non-standard, useless command that overcomplicates the simple task type does. [12:12] I made note of everything, except I didn't understand exactly what this meant: ”./configure; make test” -> ”./configure && make test” [12:12] I think you are right. It was the command which [12:12] cmd1; cmd2 cmd1 runs, and regardless of whether it failed or succeeded, cmd2 is run. [12:13] cmd1 && cmd2 cmd1 runs, and if, and only if, cmd1 suceeded, cmd2 is run. [12:13] make is dependant on the configure script suceeded, so there's no point in trying to run it if configure didn't suceed. [12:14] I think I can understand what you just wrote in the last 3 sentences, but I need a sec to think. [12:14] O, I see [12:15] Sorry about all the typos :) [12:15] I am low on sleep. Thank you very much for the help. Like I said I will share the link bioterror share with me. [12:16] I make way more mistakes when I type. You should have seen all the mistakes I made this morning. I was thinking of banging my head against the wall, but that wouldn't help. [12:17] I want to make some notes on what you have told me. [12:21] My first note: [12:21] When ”./configure; make test” is ran, first configure runs, and regardless of whether it failed or succeeded, make test is run. [12:21] When ”./configure && make test” is ran, first configure runs, and if, and only if, configure suceeded, make test is run. [12:22] I forgot to add the sentence you typed after that. [12:23] Those two sentences are correct. [12:23] I will add the type command as part of my guide. [12:23] Thank you for all the help. [12:29] So regarding what you said: Instead of saying cd /home/username/foo, say: cd ~/foo or cd "$HOME/foo" [12:29] I think you said cd "$HOME/foo" was the better of the two. [12:31] You said: HOME is unlikely to contain any shell syntax that could cause issues though. [12:32] ~ expands to the value of the HOME variable, so either is good. [12:33] cd ~/foo is shorter so I'd go with that. [12:33] when i use $HOME, it seems auto complete doesnt work as expected, which is a deal breaker for me [12:33] In scripts though, it is generally recommended to use $HOME instead of ~ [12:34] i'll buy that... is that because its easier to see and read in the text geirha ? [12:35] holstein: Yeah, that one has been discussed on the bug-bash list. It was introduced due to a change that fixed a different issue. Chet isn't sure how to "fix" it properly. [12:35] holstein: Mainly because tilde expansion is a bit more magical than parameter expansion. [12:35] good to know [12:36] VAR=~/foo # here, ~ gets expanded to your homedir [12:36] export VAR=~/foo # here it doesn't. [12:36] err, well, in bash it will also in the case of export, as a special case, but not in POSIX sh. [12:37] So using "$HOME" generally causes less confusion [12:39] I made some notes, but I am not at you level guys. Have fun and thank you for the help. [12:39] Cool stuff, Take care. [12:39] o/ [13:58] I have a question. Which file(s) produces boot.log. I am afected two mesages disturbing system start logged in this file. [13:59] can I ask in ubuntu-boot chanel ? [14:02] jp_Hranice: you can ask here if you want... what messages? [14:03] holstein: about mounting devices. But thre is not lines for them in /etc/fstab. [14:08] jp_Hranice: you want to pastebin the error messages? [14:08] Can I change this command so username doesn't have to be changed when people use it in a guide: sudo find ~/Desktop/roms -exec chown username.username \{} \; [14:08] I can wait. Take your time. [14:10] holstein: Skipping UUID=bd47a35f-ef59-4549-ba83-04bb0c095560 at user request [14:10] Skipping /mnt/data1 at user request [14:11] but during start shere are displayed 2 qestions [14:11] this is from boot.log === M0hi is now known as mohan_chml [14:13] jp_Hranice: is something not getting mounted? [14:14] holstein: device on /mnt/data1 [14:15] jp_Hranice: right.. is that actually a device? [14:17] holstein: I do not understand [14:17] jp_Hranice: do you actually have a physical device called /mnt/data1 that is failing to mount at boot? [14:17] or is that just a random message? [14:18] thre is no devices except swap and root in /etc/fstab [14:18] I do not know where it come from [14:18] jp_Hranice: so that devive does not exist? [14:19] jp_Hranice: does it slow your booting? [14:19] what OS is it? [14:19] There is created dir /mnt/data1 [14:19] jp_Hranice: you created it? [14:20] It is question for: skip or running manual mount ( something like terminal ) [14:21] holstein: Yes I create it [14:21] jp_Hranice: i would look at why you created that.. and i bet the answer is there [14:21] holstein: System ? Ubuntu 11.04 [14:22] jp_Hranice: it wont hurt to make sure you are up to date with package updates [14:22] holstein: packages are up to date. [14:23] jp_Hranice: what prompted you to create that directory? [14:25] I have 3 HDD in computer. I create it for next disk. [14:26] /etc/fstab is where i would be looking [14:26] thre is no devices except swap and root in /etc/fstab [14:27] jp_Hranice: right... i would expect an error somewhere though [14:43] holstein: It is OK now. Thanks. [15:36] Hello again. I already asked this, but this is the only question I have left for the day, then I will be done for the day and can get sleep: [15:36] Can I change this command so username doesn't have to be changed when people use it in a guide: sudo find ~/Desktop/roms -exec chown username.username \{} \; [15:37] I mean so they don't have to change username to the username that that person is using. [15:47] chown "$USER:" [15:48] Oh, he left [15:48] byeee... [15:52] Question: I am on Xubuntu 10.04. How do I add blocklists to transmission? [15:52] I did check out the forum and found it a bit esoteric. [15:56] Hmmm [15:59] ok guys dont jump all at once pls [16:08] soundconjurer: Edit -> Preferences -> [Privacy] -> [X] Enable blocklist: [] -> Update [16:13] there is no area to add the blocklist [16:14] When I enable it [16:14] and update it [16:14] there are 0 rules [16:16] well thanks anyway [16:18] hey, where are system logs now kept since 11.04 [16:59] Is there a reason a torrent will almost finish downloading to like say 99.83% and just hangs and will not finish? I use Deluge instead of Transmission as a torrent client. [21:46] if i wanna scan my harddrive to see if it is bad should i do that from a livecd? [21:51] philipballew: yup... [21:52] nlsthzn, well whats the tool to do that then [21:52] hehe... fsck [21:52] check out the man page for all the goodies on it :) [21:52] but this checks file systems [21:53] in the live CD you can get SMART info with the disk tool... [21:54] * nlsthzn is busy studying towards LPI cert. and is currently busy with hardware... only reason I have half an idea... but only half ;) [21:54] alright, im wanting to see if the harddrive itself is bad. like physicaly [21:55] like I said the disk utility in an ubuntu liveCD gives lots of smart data and if memory serves can run some tests... [21:56] hum. ill play around with it :) [21:56] thanks!!! [22:36] . [22:36] DAHHH [22:36] didnt work [22:40] oh well [22:40] Anyone got any idea whats wrong with my wifi ? [22:40] Before, when I used to connect it just worked. [22:41] Now, when I startup, I have to almost STOKE THE FIRE in a sense. I open a terminal and ping a URL [22:41] When I do this the wifi will stay connectted to the access point. It's really weird === yofel_ is now known as yofel === Robinux is now known as sw0rdfish