[00:00] <bookpage> yes
[00:02] <nlsthzn-work> well I would imagine that if -r was a valid option it would be mentioned there...
[00:05] <bookpage> nlsthzn-work: that's why I checked there, and that's why I asked if there was an option'like' -r for scp. I guess I'll just work around it then
[00:07] <nlsthzn-work> bookpage: sorry, if I had a definitive answer I would have given it...
[01:18] <geth022> I am having a hard time connecting to my wireless internet through my Ubuntu OS. Am i on the right channel for this?
[01:20] <nlsthzn-work> geth022: you are... might take a while for a guru to step up and assist you so please be patient (I am a bit up and down at work so I will rather not attempt half heartedly)
[01:22] <geth022> ok!
[01:22] <philipballew> geth022, i can try. whats your problem
[01:22] <geth022> okee, it is simply not reading that there is indeed a wireless network
[01:22] <geth022> I am currently connected to said network now,
[01:23] <geth022> my mom's computer is doing fine, i  don't quite understand what the problem is
[01:23] <philipballew> so your moms computer connects, but yours does not?
[01:24] <philipballew> whats the difference between yours and hers?
[01:24] <geth022> Yes, my desktop is connected locally to the modem/router/thing via ethernet, whilst my mothers (Windows 7) is wirelessly connected to the internet
[01:25] <geth022> desktop is Windows XP
[01:25] <geth022> btws...
[01:25] <coalwater> hello philipballew ,geth022
[01:25] <geth022> hey dere!
[01:25] <coalwater> so what's up
[01:26] <philipballew> okay. do you have your wireless card internally or via a say usb stick?
[01:26] <philipballew> coalwater, his wifi wont see any networks
[01:26] <geth022> Wireless internet is being recognized on alll computers, operating systems except for Ubuntu... it is a laptop, its internal
[01:27] <philipballew> altight. lets get to the bottom of this
[01:27] <coalwater> did u check the wireless guide the ubot has?
[01:27] <coalwater> it's a wireless problem? or internet in general?
[01:28] <philipballew> geth022, theres not a wifi switch on your laptop for a on and off function correct?
[01:29] <geth022> correct Phil, as for Coal, all other computers are doing fine with it, i had my laptop working fine on the internet with windows 7, but only on Ubuntu it doesn't worok
[01:29] <coalwater> even by wire?
[01:29] <philipballew> get okay :) open a terminal
[01:30] <geth022> yeah :/ i tried local connection too
[01:30] <geth022> open a terminal? like command prompt?
[01:30] <philipballew> maximize the terminal and type lspci -vvv
[01:30] <coalwater> yea
[01:30] <coalwater> ctrl+alt+t might open it for u
[01:30] <philipballew> yeah. but the terminal is much more powerful
[01:30] <philipballew> what version of ubuntu are you running
[01:31] <geth022> cool, soo typing it in now...
[01:31] <coalwater> philipballew: +1 to that lol
[01:31] <philipballew> then copy and paste everything in the terminal to this site here
[01:31] <geth022> holy shit that's a long list...
[01:31] <philipballew> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
[01:31] <geth022> ummmm, i'm on a different computer
[01:31] <philipballew> geth022, it gives good info about your hardware inside your laptop :)
[01:32] <geth022> oooo, i see, well, how do you want me to communicate it to you guys?
[01:32] <philipballew> hum. connect your laptop via a cat5?
[01:32] <philipballew> does that work?
[01:32] <geth022> i've got Ubuntu 10.10 btws
[01:33] <philipballew> how new is your laptop/
[01:33] <geth022> i don't know what any of that cat5 stuff means :((
[01:33] <philipballew> say ethernet or wired connection?
[01:33] <philipballew> can you hook it up that way
[01:33] <geth022> reasonably new, just short of coming standard with a webcam
[01:33] <geth022> no, i tried that
[01:34] <geth022> i'm new to OS
[01:34] <philipballew> it may be that the laptop is newer then the version of ubuntu therefor lacking the drivers for that model
[01:34] <geth022> *I'm new to OS's that aren't Windows lol
[01:34] <geth022> should i get the 11. 04 version then?
[01:35] <coalwater> it can't be  just an ip conflict, or dhcp problem?
[01:35] <geth022> no ideas bros...
[01:35] <philipballew> well heres what i want you to do. remember when you installed ubuntu 10.10 you had the cd boot into the operating system and then you installed?
[01:35] <geth022> yess
[01:35] <philipballew> coalwater, it might easily be that
[01:36] <philipballew> do that with 11.04 and see if your internet works
[01:36] <philipballew> also do you have a flash drive?
[01:37] <geth022> damn, ok! I... kinda... don't know where it is...
[01:37] <geth022> i have a dvd burner i can use
[01:37] <geth022> How would i go about cleaning up the two OS's i'm not gonna use if it works?
[01:38] <philipballew> sure, just copy the output from the terminal onto a text file and then put it onto the compueter with internet. then put it on the site i said or if your unsude you can email it to me and ill do it
[01:38] <philipballew> then after that try 11.04
[01:40] <geth022> ok!, i'll be back in a few minutes ok? i'mm go do that
[01:41] <philipballew> alright. i will probably be here. if not someone should
[01:43] <coalwater> hey philipballew do u know how to mark several lines in nano to cut them
[01:45] <nlsthzn-work> coalwater: if you have a mouse higglight them and copy paste using ctrl+shift+c and -v
[01:45] <nlsthzn-work> I think that should work...
[01:45] <philipballew> do you have a mouse coalwater
[01:45]  * nlsthzn-work hasn't tried it himself
[01:45] <coalwater> yea
[01:46] <coalwater> but i was wondering of hte keyboard way
[01:46] <coalwater> i'm currently using putty to my home pc
[01:46] <E3D3> When I open a new document in Dolpin file-manager it opens new instances of Emacs editor or Conkeror web-browser but I prefer to open them in the same/one window. How can I do that ?
[01:47] <coalwater> E3D3: it's usually a preference, check dolpin prefrences, cause nautilus has that setting
[01:47] <coalwater> o wait, ur case is a lil different
[01:48] <geth022> oh hey, it's got like two hour estimated time to completion, so i might have to log on tomorrow
[01:48] <coalwater> i'm not sure how u can do that, because dolpin or any explorer just calls the excutable, and that opens a new window
[01:49] <coalwater> hey geth022 , sorry u know i came lil later than when u started asking, so i want to ask something
[01:49] <E3D3> okay, i experimented with the arguments but I can't find info about it.
[01:49] <E3D3> coalwater: Still thanks
[01:50] <geth022> yup! shoot
[01:51] <coalwater> when u use the cable , does the info say that u have an ip ? or does it say that you're not conencted
[01:51] <geth022> it says i am not connected, no network connections
[01:51] <coalwater> and there's an option in the network applet, it says enable networking, u make sure it's not disabled
[01:52] <geth022> i'm finding network connections but not a network applet...
[01:53] <geth022> could you tell me whereabouts that's at?
[01:54] <urlin2u> geth022, looks like a pizza top panel
[01:54] <urlin2u> pizza slice geth022
[01:54] <coalwater> pizza lol
[01:55] <coalwater> but yea it's on the top panel, on the right
[01:55] <urlin2u> triangualtubular man
[01:55] <geth022> oh i checked there, it said no network devices available
[01:55] <coalwater> o
[01:55] <coalwater> so it can't see the device
[01:56] <geth022> nope, does that definitely mean i need a new driver/versionofubuntu?
[01:56]  * nlsthzn-work wonders what ifconfig shows...
[01:57]  * philipballew and ifconfig -a
[01:57] <urlin2u> nlsthzn-work, lol
[01:58] <nlsthzn-work> :p
[01:58] <geth022> what am i looking for?
[01:58] <coalwater> write ifconfig -a in a terminal
[01:59] <coalwater> ifconfig -a
[01:59] <geth022> i did, shows the same as it did befre
[02:00] <coalwater> and what was before lol, i didn't see that
[02:00] <geth022> what doo i need to see?
[02:00] <coalwater> it will say the interfaces u have, and the ip's in each
[02:01] <geth022> i see the Ethernet Controller, Network controller,
[02:01] <geth022> zat whatti need?
[02:03] <nlsthzn-work> !pastebin
[02:03] <ubot2> For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[02:04] <nlsthzn-work> geth022: can you possibly copy paste what you see on a usb device and then copy it into pastebin (see above)?
[02:04] <nlsthzn-work> that way we can see what you see :)
[02:04] <coalwater> or use pastebinit! :D
[02:04] <coalwater> o nvm
[02:04] <coalwater> u don't have internet LOL
[02:04] <geth022> lol, no connection br ;)
[02:04] <geth022> *bro
[02:04] <coalwater> yea lol forgot :D
[02:04] <geth022> umm, i kind of have to make my way uot with some friends right now.
[02:05]  * nlsthzn-work is going home now... best of luck geth022 and coalwater 
[02:05] <geth022> Can i email it later, or contact u at a later time?
[02:05] <geth022> tnx u!
[02:05] <coalwater> u can come back here, maybe ull be lucky and find someone more useful
[02:06] <geth022> mmkay, thank you for trying tho!
[02:28] <Guest79933> I see a few people on the forums reporting that no buttons respond in the users and groups app and nobody has ever responded.  I'm having the same issue on a clean install of Natty.  Can anybody help?
[02:32] <urlin2u> Guest79933, manage groups or advanced settings?
[02:42] <Guest79933> manage groups responds but I can't add a user or go into advanced settings.  The buttons just don't do anything
[02:47] <E3D3> I bought today 4GB RAM but System Monitor shows only 2,8 GB. What is wrong ?
[02:48] <E3D3> Do I have to fill in a coupon to receive the other 1,4 GB ?
[02:48] <E3D3> 1,4 = 1.2
[02:48] <stlsaint> E3D3: are you running 64bit os?
[02:48] <E3D3> I dont know ?
[02:48] <E3D3> I have an Celeron
[02:49] <E3D3> Where can I see if Ihave an 64bits OS
[02:50] <stlsaint> E3D3: run command: grep processor /proc/cpuinfo
[02:51] <stlsaint> E3D3: um did you install 32bit or 64bit?
[02:51] <E3D3> output = 0
[02:51] <E3D3> What does that mean ?
[02:51] <E3D3> processor	: 0
[02:51] <E3D3>  
[02:52] <stlsaint> means your running 32bit which will not read 4GB of ram
[02:52] <stlsaint> E3D3: run command: uname -a
[02:52] <E3D3> Sh*t
[02:52] <E3D3> Sorry
[02:53] <E3D3> Linux D3 2.6.32-25-generic #45-Ubuntu SMP Sat Oct 16 19:48:22 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:53] <E3D3>  
[02:53] <stlsaint> see that "i686" there....yep....32bit
[02:53] <bookpage> can anyone here help me with fuse?
[02:53] <stlsaint> with a generic kernel, your not going to see all the ram
[02:54] <E3D3> Can I reinstall a 64bits version ?
[02:54] <stlsaint> bookpage: im sure someone can, probably not me as i rarely blink at fuse
[02:56] <stlsaint> E3D3: run command: grep flags | grep lm /proc/cpuinfo
[02:56] <E3D3> flags		: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc up arch_perfmon pebs bts aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm xsave lahf_lm
[02:56] <stlsaint> if you see "lm" highlighted or there than you can run 64bit, but with one processor i dbout it
[02:56] <stlsaint> oh wait
[02:56] <stlsaint> there ya go
[02:56] <E3D3> I saw it, I saw it :-)
[02:57] <stlsaint> so yes you can run 64bit
[02:57] <E3D3> So I'm under-using/abusing my hardware ?
[02:57] <stlsaint> uh, sure
[02:58] <stlsaint> gotta go
[02:58] <E3D3> Thank you very much & bye
[03:20] <E3D3> Does the choice in installable software depend on the choice between Gnome, KDE or LXDE ? I have now Gnome but think that I already have it mixed with KDE-apps but wonder if I can install the same software when I try LXDE ??
[03:21] <linux_is_my_hero> my cups client computer sees the shared printer on the cups server, but when attempting to print, the job is sent and nothing happens.
[03:21] <linux_is_my_hero> :-(
[11:33] <r4y> hello, I have this error:
[11:33] <r4y> >	./autogen.sh: 3: aclocal: not found
[11:34] <r4y> I am trying to install torrentzip
[11:34] <bioterror> what's torrentzip?
[11:34] <r4y> It for comressing mame roms.
[11:35] <r4y> And I am sure other things.
[11:35] <bioterror> roms are binaries, does it compress them much?
[11:36] <r4y> I am not sure the answer, nor the question. I should find a link.
[11:37] <r4y> http://sourceforge.net/projects/trrntzip/files/trrntzip/TorrentZip%20v0.2/
[11:37] <geirha> r4y: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:37] <r4y> Yes I did that first.
[11:38] <geirha> install autoconf and automake too (I wasn't sure if build-essential covered those)
[11:39] <r4y> Here is a guide I am making:
[11:39] <r4y> http://paste.ubuntu.com/673747/
[11:39] <bioterror> http://t7z.sourceforge.net/
[11:39] <bioterror> hoho
[11:40] <r4y> Does automake replace sudo make install?
[11:40] <geirha> r4y: ''./configure; make test'' -> ''./configure && make test''
[11:40] <geirha> No point in running make if configure fails
[11:41] <r4y> Here is what I have so far, but I haven't used what was suggested here yet:
[11:41] <r4y> http://paste.ubuntu.com/673749/
[11:42] <bioterror> r4y, did you notice my url, your torrentzip is outdated and no longer mainted, as the t7zip is a replacement for it
[11:43] <r4y> I am running Ubuntu 11.04 on VMware. I am sorry I will check it out thank you for the info.
[11:43] <geirha> r4y: Instead of saying cd /home/username/foo, say: cd ~/foo or cd "$HOME/foo"
[11:44] <r4y> Great idea, thank you I will.
[11:45] <r4y> Does the third one need quotes?
[11:45] <geirha> Another issue is that ~/Desktop is localized. On my system it's ~/Skrivebord
[11:46] <geirha> r4y: Preferably, yes. Whenever you have a $var or $(command) or `command`, you want it enclosed in double quotes... for good practice.
[11:46] <geirha> HOME is unlikely to contain any shell syntax that could cause issues though.
[11:46] <r4y> Well, this guide is for Ubuntu users and if they costumized their Linux OS that much then they would know what to do
[11:47] <r4y> I need to go back and read. Thank you all for the info.
[11:47] <geirha> If you during the install of Ubuntu say you live in Spain and speak spanish, your desktop folder will be named with the spanish translation of the word Desktop.
[11:49] <r4y> Well I can't argue with you there, as you know more then I do on this subject
[11:49] <r4y> So did configure fail?
[11:51] <r4y> The outdated version of torrentzip worked for me the last time I tried it.
[11:51] <geirha> zlib's configure seemed to succeed
[11:51] <r4y> Thank you for the help.
[11:52] <r4y> I bookmarked the newer version to share with other, so thank you bioterror for the link.
[11:57] <r4y> automake was already installed, but I don't know what installed it, but that's that. I will try again now.
[11:58] <geirha> aclocal is installed by either autoconf or automake, don't quite remember which.
[11:58] <r4y> http://paste.ubuntu.com/673765/
[11:58] <geirha> But you generally need both anyway.
[11:59] <geirha> Looks ok, I think you can disregard the warnings.
[12:00] <r4y> OK, next to go then, I'll be back right away
[12:01] <r4y> http://paste.ubuntu.com/673768/
[12:01] <r4y> Looks good to me so far
[12:01] <geirha> yes
[12:02] <r4y> Then next step they had was make
[12:02] <r4y> but I have seen sudo make install before so I am unsure.
[12:02] <r4y> Do make I guess
[12:03] <r4y> http://paste.ubuntu.com/673772/
[12:04] <r4y> I should be testing it I guess. I will look for the binary.
[12:05] <r4y> what was that command for finding a binary with a word?
[12:05] <geirha> type?
[12:06] <r4y> It will be trrntzip
[12:06] <geirha> ''type trrntzip''
[12:07] <r4y> Not found, give me a little. I have text files laying around with this kind of info for future use.
[12:08] <geirha> Well, once you do  sudo make install  it will install the binaries in /usr/local/bin, unless you specified a different destination with configure
[12:08] <r4y> OK, I will try that and see what happens
[12:08] <geirha> Once it's installed there, type should see it since /usr/local/bin should be in your PATH.
[12:10] <r4y> O yes:
[12:10] <r4y> http://paste.ubuntu.com/673777/
[12:11] <r4y> I can't remember where I saved that command in a text file, but I am making note.
[12:11] <r4y> Thank you very much for the help. Great job.
[12:11] <geirha> Someone might have told you to use a command called which
[12:11] <geirha> If so, delete that from your file and replace it with type
[12:12] <geirha> which is a highly non-standard, useless command that overcomplicates the simple task type does.
[12:12] <r4y> I made note of everything, except I didn't understand exactly what this meant: ”./configure; make test” -> ”./configure && make test”
[12:12] <r4y> I think you are right. It was the command which
[12:12] <geirha> cmd1; cmd2   cmd1 runs, and regardless of whether it failed or succeeded, cmd2 is run.
[12:13] <geirha> cmd1 && cmd2  cmd1 runs, and if, and only if, cmd1 suceeded, cmd2 is run.
[12:13] <geirha> make is dependant on the configure script suceeded, so there's no point in trying to run it if configure didn't suceed.
[12:14] <r4y> I think I can understand what you just wrote in the last 3 sentences, but I need a sec to think.
[12:14] <r4y> O, I see
[12:15] <geirha> Sorry about all the typos :)
[12:15] <r4y> I am low on sleep. Thank you very much for the help. Like I said I will share the link bioterror share with me.
[12:16] <r4y> I make way more mistakes when I type. You should have seen all the mistakes I made this morning. I was thinking of banging my head against the wall, but that wouldn't help.
[12:17] <r4y> I want to make some notes on what you have told me.
[12:21] <r4y> My first note:
[12:21] <r4y> When ”./configure; make test” is ran, first configure runs, and regardless of whether it failed or succeeded, make test is run.
[12:21] <r4y> When ”./configure && make test” is ran, first configure runs, and if, and only if, configure suceeded, make test is run.
[12:22] <r4y> I forgot to add the sentence you typed after that.
[12:23] <geirha> Those two sentences are correct.
[12:23] <r4y> I will add the type command as part of my guide.
[12:23] <r4y> Thank you for all the help.
[12:29] <r4y> So regarding what you said: Instead of saying cd /home/username/foo, say: cd ~/foo or cd "$HOME/foo"
[12:29] <r4y> I think you said cd "$HOME/foo" was the better of the two.
[12:31] <r4y> You said: HOME is unlikely to contain any shell syntax that could cause issues though.
[12:32] <geirha> ~ expands to the value of the HOME variable, so either is good.
[12:33] <geirha> cd ~/foo is shorter so I'd go with that.
[12:33] <holstein> when i use $HOME, it seems auto complete doesnt work as expected, which is a deal breaker for me
[12:33] <geirha> In scripts though, it is generally recommended to use $HOME instead of ~
[12:34] <holstein> i'll buy that... is that because its easier to see and read in the text geirha ?
[12:35] <geirha> holstein: Yeah, that one has been discussed on the bug-bash list. It was introduced due to a change that fixed a different issue. Chet isn't sure how to "fix" it properly.
[12:35] <geirha> holstein: Mainly because tilde expansion is a bit more magical than parameter expansion.
[12:35] <holstein> good to know
[12:36] <geirha> VAR=~/foo  # here, ~ gets expanded to your homedir
[12:36] <geirha> export VAR=~/foo  # here it doesn't.
[12:36] <geirha> err, well, in bash it will also in the case of export, as a special case, but not in POSIX sh.
[12:37] <geirha> So using "$HOME" generally causes less confusion
[12:39] <r4y> I made some notes, but I am not at you level guys. Have fun and thank you for the help.
[12:39] <r4y> Cool stuff, Take care.
[12:39] <r4y> o/
[13:58] <jp_Hranice> I have a question. Which file(s) produces boot.log. I am afected two mesages disturbing system start logged in this file.
[13:59] <jp_Hranice> can I ask in ubuntu-boot chanel ?
[14:02] <holstein> jp_Hranice: you can ask here if you want... what messages?
[14:03] <jp_Hranice> holstein: about mounting devices. But thre is not lines for them in /etc/fstab.
[14:08] <holstein> jp_Hranice: you want to pastebin the error messages?
[14:08] <r4y> Can I change this command so username doesn't have to be changed when people use it in a guide: sudo find ~/Desktop/roms -exec chown username.username \{} \;
[14:08] <r4y> I can wait. Take your time.
[14:10] <jp_Hranice> holstein: Skipping UUID=bd47a35f-ef59-4549-ba83-04bb0c095560 at user request
[14:10] <jp_Hranice> Skipping /mnt/data1 at user request
[14:11] <jp_Hranice> but during start shere are displayed 2 qestions
[14:11] <jp_Hranice> this is from boot.log
[14:13] <holstein> jp_Hranice: is something not getting mounted?
[14:14] <jp_Hranice> holstein: device on /mnt/data1
[14:15] <holstein> jp_Hranice: right.. is that actually a device?
[14:17] <jp_Hranice> holstein: I do not understand
[14:17] <holstein> jp_Hranice: do you actually have a physical device called /mnt/data1 that is failing to mount at boot?
[14:17] <holstein> or is that just a random message?
[14:18] <jp_Hranice> thre is no devices except swap and root in /etc/fstab
[14:18] <jp_Hranice> I do not know where it come from
[14:18] <holstein> jp_Hranice: so that devive does not exist?
[14:19] <holstein> jp_Hranice: does it slow your booting?
[14:19] <holstein> what OS is it?
[14:19] <jp_Hranice> There is created dir /mnt/data1
[14:19] <holstein> jp_Hranice: you created it?
[14:20] <jp_Hranice> It is question for: skip or running manual mount ( something like terminal )
[14:21] <jp_Hranice> holstein: Yes I create it
[14:21] <holstein> jp_Hranice: i would look at why you created that.. and i bet the answer is there
[14:21] <jp_Hranice> holstein: System ? Ubuntu 11.04
[14:22] <holstein> jp_Hranice: it wont hurt to make sure you are up to date with package updates
[14:22] <jp_Hranice> holstein: packages are up to date.
[14:23] <holstein> jp_Hranice: what prompted you to create that directory?
[14:25] <jp_Hranice> I have 3 HDD in computer. I create it for next disk.
[14:26] <holstein>  /etc/fstab is where i would be looking
[14:26] <jp_Hranice> thre is no devices except swap and root in /etc/fstab
[14:27] <holstein> jp_Hranice: right... i would expect an error somewhere though
[14:43] <jp_Hranice> holstein: It is OK now. Thanks.
[15:36] <r4y> Hello again. I already asked this, but this is the only question I have left for the day, then I will be done for the day and can get sleep:
[15:36] <r4y> Can I change this command so username doesn't have to be changed when people use it in a guide: sudo find ~/Desktop/roms -exec chown username.username \{} \;
[15:37] <r4y> I mean so they don't have to change username to the username that that person is using.
[15:47] <geirha> chown "$USER:"
[15:48] <geirha> Oh, he left
[15:48] <d3s3rtdw3ll3r> byeee...
[15:52] <soundconjurer> Question: I am on Xubuntu 10.04. How do I add blocklists to transmission?
[15:52] <soundconjurer> I did check out the forum and found it a bit esoteric.
[15:56] <soundconjurer> Hmmm
[15:59] <strickly> ok guys dont jump all at once pls
[16:08] <geirha> soundconjurer: Edit -> Preferences -> [Privacy] -> [X] Enable blocklist: [<url to your favorite blocklist here>] -> Update
[16:13] <soundconjurer> there is no area to add the blocklist
[16:14] <soundconjurer> When I enable it
[16:14] <soundconjurer> and update it
[16:14] <soundconjurer> there are 0 rules
[16:16] <soundconjurer> well thanks anyway
[16:18] <HoboSteaux> hey, where are system logs now kept since 11.04
[16:59] <harleydude> Is there a reason a torrent will almost finish downloading to like say 99.83% and just hangs and will not finish? I use Deluge instead of Transmission as a torrent client.
[21:46] <philipballew> if i wanna scan my harddrive to see if it is bad should i do that from a livecd?
[21:51] <nlsthzn> philipballew: yup...
[21:52] <philipballew> nlsthzn, well whats the tool to do that then
[21:52] <nlsthzn> hehe... fsck
[21:52] <nlsthzn> check out the man page for all the goodies on it :)
[21:52] <nlsthzn> but this checks file systems
[21:53] <nlsthzn> in the live CD you can get SMART info with the disk tool...
[21:54]  * nlsthzn is busy studying towards LPI cert. and is currently busy with hardware... only reason I have half an idea... but only half ;)
[21:54] <philipballew> alright, im wanting to see if the harddrive itself is bad. like physicaly
[21:55] <nlsthzn> like I said the disk utility in an ubuntu liveCD gives lots of smart data and if memory serves can run some tests...
[21:56] <philipballew> hum. ill play around with it :)
[21:56] <philipballew> thanks!!!
[22:36] <rawfodog_> .
[22:36] <rawfodog_> DAHHH
[22:36] <rawfodog_> didnt work
[22:40] <rawfodog_> oh well
[22:40] <rawfodog_> Anyone got any idea whats wrong with my wifi ?
[22:40] <rawfodog_> Before, when I used to connect it just worked.
[22:41] <rawfodog_> Now, when I startup, I have to almost STOKE THE FIRE in a sense. I open a terminal and ping a URL
[22:41] <rawfodog_> When I do this the wifi will stay connectted to the access point. It's really weird