| === Brumle__ is now known as Brumle | ||
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| pitti | Good morning | 05:39 |
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| jibel | morning pitti | 05:40 |
| pitti | hey jibel, bonjour | 05:42 |
| jbicha | good morning | 05:42 |
| jbicha | pitti: simple-scan has a ubuntu-desktop branch | 05:42 |
| robert_ancell | can anyone point out what is wrong with this "bzr mu --version 0.0.3 ~/bzr/unity-greeter/unity-greeter-0.0.3.tar.gz" - it just updates the changelog but doesn't pull in any of the new files | 05:44 |
| pitti | jbicha: ah, pushing there, sorry | 05:45 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: looks fine | 05:45 |
| jasoncwarner_ | morning, pitti | 05:45 |
| pitti | hey jasoncwarner_ | 05:45 |
| * robert_ancell scratches his head | 05:45 | |
| jasoncwarner_ | pitti: if you update, you should get a new compiz...been running it all day and it has been much more stable for me | 05:46 |
| pitti | jasoncwarner_: already updated last night | 05:46 |
| jasoncwarner_ | :) | 05:46 |
| pitti | I lost my theming (back to Ambiance) | 05:46 |
| jbicha | robert_ancell: I've had headaches with bzr mu, I just reported bug 832496 about a different issue today | 05:46 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 832496 in bzr-builddeb "[bzr-mu] New version was not found in <bzrlib.plugins.builddeb.upstream.UScanSource object>" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/832496 | 05:47 |
| pitti | and using dash with keyboard si still a nuisance | 05:47 |
| pitti | but at least it didn't crash yet or destroy the apport-gtk popups :) | 05:47 |
| robert_ancell | jbicha, ah, cheers | 05:47 |
| jasoncwarner_ | pitti: yeah, dash + keyboard aren't working well right now, but hoping unity today fixes those (have to and check the changelog) | 05:47 |
| jbicha | and hopefully, this unity bugfix is more substantial than last week's :-) | 05:47 |
| pitti | jbicha: ah, I think I ignored it because the previous oneiric upload wasn't there either | 05:49 |
| * pitti commits that as well, though | 05:49 | |
| pitti | yay, amd64 retracer chugging away happily now \o/ | 05:49 |
| pitti | jbicha: branch updated | 05:51 |
| RAOF | Hey pitti. | 05:55 |
| pitti | hey RAOF, how are you? | 05:56 |
| RAOF | Pretty good! | 05:57 |
| pitti | I'm off for about an hour for a run | 05:58 |
| RAOF | I think I've got all the security complaints on the colord MIR resolved, so once that's processed g-c-c and g-c-m can get built. | 05:58 |
| RAOF | Have running fun! | 05:58 |
| === htorque_ is now known as htorque | ||
| jbicha | I'm having some big problems with gconf but I need help figuring it out | 06:26 |
| jbicha | one example: I just reinstalled yesterday & cleared my gconf settings, I went to gnome-terminal to disable the Alt shortcuts | 06:27 |
| jbicha | to switch tabs so that I could use that in irssi, but the settings don't actually get written to gconf | 06:27 |
| jbicha | the other bigger problem is in the metacity keybindings, run_command_terminal is supposed to be Ctrl-Alt-T by default in Ubuntu | 06:28 |
| jbicha | and show_desktop should be Super-D but this isn't what's actually happening | 06:29 |
| jbicha | ah, I think this is the first issue: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=656873 | 06:31 |
| ubot2 | Gnome bug 656873 in general "gconf-editor has sync issue to set value" [Major,Unconfirmed] | 06:31 |
| glatzor | morning mvo | 06:48 |
| glatzor | mvo, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptdaemon/+bug/831965 do you have got any idea where this exception could be tiggered? | 06:50 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 831965 in aptdaemon "aptd crashed with SystemError: E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) (dup-of: 799982)" [Undecided,New] | 06:50 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 799982 in aptdaemon "aptd crashed with SystemError: E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)" [High,Confirmed] | 06:50 |
| glatzor | mvo, actually we should catch all SystemError exceptions in Worker._apply_changes | 06:51 |
| glatzor | and map them to a TransactionFailed one | 06:52 |
| jbicha | maybe my keybindings problems are compiz's fault; does compiz mess with the metacity settings? | 07:06 |
| mvo | glatzor: yeah, that sounds sensible | 07:06 |
| mvo | glatzor: note that we use DPKG_UNTRANSLATED_MESSAGES (patches/01_add_dpkg_untranslated_messages) so the terminal log will be english | 07:07 |
| pitti | RAOF: I replied to bug 785828 | 07:09 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 785828 in libdbusmenu "memory leak in label_notify_cb" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/785828 | 07:09 |
| pitti | RAOF: I tried to build the source three times, but that single extra line was about as much as I could reduce the noise | 07:09 |
| RAOF | pitti: That's rather annoying :/ | 07:10 |
| glatzor | mvo, we already map the error. so I don't know why the exception is not already handled properly | 07:10 |
| RAOF | pitti: In that case, I'll wave it through. | 07:11 |
| glatzor | mvo, every SystemException from apt.Cache.commit() is mapped to a TransactionFailed error with the code ERROR_PACKAGE_MANAGER_FAILED | 07:11 |
| pitti | RAOF: you'll fish it out of rejected? | 07:18 |
| RAOF | pitti: | 07:18 |
| RAOF | pitti: Unless you can easily just upload it again. | 07:18 |
| pitti | RAOF: no, I'd have to re-download and upload, out of rejected is faster | 07:19 |
| pitti | RAOF: I can accept it, too | 07:19 |
| pitti | mvo: guten Morgen | 07:19 |
| mvo | glatzor: lp keeps timing out for me on the master bug | 07:20 |
| pitti | mvo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/673267/ > I've seen that happen when you mix static and GI bindingd | 07:20 |
| mvo | pitti: guten morgen! | 07:20 |
| pitti | mvo: what I did is to edit /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/gobject/constants.py | 07:20 |
| mvo | pitti: oh, ok. I will hunt some more, I thought that all mixing was gone for good | 07:20 |
| pitti | mvo: and add these lies to the top: | 07:20 |
| pitti | "lines" | 07:20 |
| glatzor | morning pitti | 07:20 |
| pitti | import traceback | 07:20 |
| pitti | print '--------- static module import! --------------' | 07:20 |
| pitti | traceback.print_stack() | 07:20 |
| pitti | print '-------------------------------------' | 07:20 |
| RAOF | pitti: Ok, done. Sorry about that. | 07:20 |
| pitti | mvo: that makes it rather easy to see through which deep dependency chain it gets pulled in | 07:20 |
| pitti | hey glatzor, servus! | 07:21 |
| glatzor | mvo, yeah, the timeout is because of the high number of duplicates. I already talked to people at #launchpad | 07:21 |
| pitti | RAOF: no need to be sorry at all -- it's good that you spot and complain about such things | 07:21 |
| pitti | bah, and there we are again -- LP timing out in the retracers :( | 07:21 |
| glatzor | mvo, but the master bug doesn't provide any additional information | 07:21 |
| mvo | <rant>makes perfect sense to timeout for bugs that affect a lot of people</rant> | 07:21 |
| pitti | mvo: I had some of these as well -- I used /+text for them | 07:22 |
| pitti | that usually works | 07:22 |
| mvo | thanks pitti, the traceback helped | 07:24 |
| pitti | mvo: you can of course also just raise an exception there | 07:24 |
| mvo | glatzor: hrm, I had hoped that there would be a hint somewhere. I have seen sometimes that the defered eat the exception handling, | 07:25 |
| rickspencer3 | hi huats | 07:33 |
| huats | hey rickspencer3 ! | 07:33 |
| huats | morning everyone | 07:33 |
| pitti | hey rickspencer3 | 07:33 |
| pitti | bonjour huats | 07:33 |
| huats | bonjour pitti | 07:34 |
| rickspencer3 | bonjour mes amis | 07:34 |
| huats | :) | 07:35 |
| rickspencer3 | mvo, pitti ... obviously SC is broken in natty, only 1 person bought Photobomb so far, and no one reviewed it | 07:35 |
| rickspencer3 | I guess the system got overwhelmed by it's popularity and knocked off line | 07:35 |
| rickspencer3 | it's the only possible explenation | 07:35 |
| pitti | yeah, I've seen it installed on thousands of machines, something must be wrong | 07:38 |
| jbicha | rickspencer3: there was an earthquake over here, give us a few weeks to recover! | 07:38 |
| glatzor | mvo, but un-reproducable? | 07:42 |
| mvo | rickspencer3: just look at the popcon data instead, we need to use 64bit INTs there now for the first time | 07:44 |
| rickspencer3 | heh | 07:44 |
| rickspencer3 | just doing my job | 07:45 |
| dholbach | hiya | 07:50 |
| dholbach | do you have a bug report about a not vanishing alt-tab dialog already? :) | 07:51 |
| chrisccoulson | good morning everyone | 07:55 |
| dholbach | ok, back to unity-2d - I can see anything with the alt-tab thing open all the time | 07:56 |
| pitti | hey chrisccoulson | 07:56 |
| chrisccoulson | hi pitti, how are you? | 07:56 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: pretty well, thanks! happy that retracers are back up (mostly) | 07:57 |
| pitti | it was a 13 hour hackfest, but oh well :) | 07:57 |
| chrisccoulson | excellent, it's good that they are working again :) | 07:57 |
| pitti | amd64 is currently catching up; haven't started i386 yet, but will soon | 07:58 |
| pitti | jbicha: what is the last word on aisleriot? I thought the license problem was ok now? | 08:01 |
| jbicha | pitti: upstream forgot to include their COPYING.LGPL in their Makefile so it wasn't in the tarball | 08:01 |
| pitti | jbicha: right, but I thought it would be in the next release, and until then debian/copyright would suffice? | 08:02 |
| rodrigo_ | morning | 08:02 |
| pitti | hey rodrigo_ | 08:02 |
| jbicha | pitti: well we talked to them a while ago and they did improve their licensing stuff significantly | 08:03 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 | 08:03 |
| jbicha | I think we should put it in Ubuntu now and I'm waiting for a sponsor | 08:03 |
| pitti | jbicha: I agree; I'll upload now | 08:04 |
| jbicha | pitti: thanks | 08:04 |
| seb128 | hey desktopers | 08:04 |
| seb128 | hey pitti, how are you? | 08:04 |
| seb128 | hey jbicha | 08:04 |
| pitti | seb128: happy :) | 08:04 |
| jbicha | seb128: good morning | 08:05 |
| pitti | seb128: the retracers didn't do anything over night, LP kept timing out on searchTasks() | 08:05 |
| pitti | seb128: but I found a cheesy workaround | 08:05 |
| seb128 | pitti, something making you happy? | 08:05 |
| seb128 | great ;-) | 08:05 |
| pitti | seb128: (only grabbing bugs since August 1, and once these are done, working backwards) | 08:05 |
| rodrigo_ | hi pitti, jbicha, seb128 | 08:05 |
| pitti | seb128: and I fixed some more remaining crashes which happen on old/weird bugs, and it doesn't break permanently (keep lock file) on LP timeouts any more | 08:05 |
| pitti | seb128: hacking until midnight paid off :) | 08:06 |
| seb128 | hey rodrigo_ | 08:06 |
| seb128 | pitti, that's most excellent! | 08:06 |
| chrisccoulson | hi seb128, how are you? | 08:06 |
| jbicha | rodrigo_: howdy | 08:06 |
| seb128 | pitti, well, packaging until midnight paid off as well, we got a compiz update out :p | 08:06 |
| pitti | seb128: congrats about that, great job! | 08:06 |
| seb128 | how is compiz working for everybody today? | 08:06 |
| pitti | seb128: stable, but I lost my Radiance theme :/ | 08:06 |
| pitti | it's dark now | 08:06 |
| seb128 | hey chrisccoulson, I'm great thanks, what about yourself? | 08:06 |
| pitti | and using the windows key/keyboard is still utterly broken | 08:07 |
| pitti | but it stopped disrupting the screen on popup dialogs like apport-gtk | 08:07 |
| pitti | and hasn't crashed yet | 08:07 |
| seb128 | pitti, yeah, I don't know what's going on with the theme, I'm getting that as well this morning | 08:07 |
| seb128 | pitti, keybindings is unity rather than compiz | 08:07 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, not too bad thanks | 08:07 |
| pitti | $ gsettings list-recursively|grep theme | 08:07 |
| pitti | org.gnome.desktop.interface gtk-theme 'Radiance' | 08:07 |
| pitti | seb128: right, but I thought so is the theme | 08:08 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm a bit frustrated that i can't get the new thunderbird theme to apply on upgrades :/ | 08:08 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, oh, still not? | 08:08 |
| seb128 | pitti, are you sure it's the compiz update that broke the theme? | 08:08 |
| seb128 | that seems weird | 08:08 |
| pitti | seb128: I'm not | 08:08 |
| pitti | seb128: I just dist-upgraded yesterday, and after restarting my session Radiance went AWOL | 08:09 |
| seb128 | pitti, hum | 08:09 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, no. even though the preference is set correctly, the new theme isn't loaded (because only one theme extension can be loaded by the addon manager at a time, and upgraders already have an extensions.sqlite DB with the old theme marked as active) | 08:09 |
| chrisccoulson | not sure how to fix that on upgrade | 08:10 |
| seb128 | :-( | 08:10 |
| chrisccoulson | i might have to just patch the default theme, which is how it will be implemented when it all lands upstream anyway | 08:11 |
| jbicha | the metacity keybindings that are used by gnome shell aren't being set right either | 08:11 |
| chrisccoulson | however, there are concerns that the new icons don't work so well with high-contrast themes, so using a separate theme extension has an advantage here that enabling accessibility disables the custom theme | 08:12 |
| chrisccoulson | i'd lose that if i patched the default theme | 08:12 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: guten Morgen! | 08:13 |
| jbicha | chrisccoulson: don't we just patch the default theme for firefox? | 08:13 |
| chrisccoulson | jbicha, no | 08:13 |
| chrisccoulson | that theme is upstream | 08:13 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: do you have access to the porter machines, so that you can more easily investigate the FTBFSes? | 08:13 |
| seb128 | brb | 08:14 |
| === rickspencer3_ is now known as rickspencer3 | ||
| jbicha | rodrigo_: have you considered building g-s-d with packagekit support? | 08:17 |
| jbicha | I don't imagine many Ubuntu users use gnome-packagekit but without the gsettings schema from g-s-d, the prefs gui won't even start | 08:19 |
| === tkamppeter__ is now known as tkamppeter | ||
| pitti | jbicha: thanks for the simple-scan update! sponsoring this as well | 08:20 |
| jbicha | it's probably not worth my time messing with it except that it's in the archives | 08:20 |
| pitti | jbicha: you are unstoppable | 08:20 |
| jbicha | well this gives me something useful to do with my time | 08:22 |
| seb128 | re | 08:24 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, it's mterry's and robert_ancell's fault | 08:24 |
| seb128 | it's the unity-greeter g-s-d which doesn't exit and prevent the session one to work | 08:25 |
| seb128 | you can stop the running g-s-ds and restart your user one | 08:25 |
| seb128 | or use the gtk standard greeter as a workaround | 08:25 |
| pitti | uh, what? how does lightdm's session affect the user session? | 08:25 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, g-s-d crashes | 08:26 |
| pitti | (gnome-settings-daemon:19784): power-plugin-WARNING **: Failed to get brightness: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method "GetBrightness" with signature "" on interface "org.freedesktop.UPower.KbdBacklight" doesn't exist | 08:26 |
| rodrigo_ | jbicha, hmm, which prefs gui you mean? | 08:26 |
| pitti | Speicherzugriffsfehler (Speicherabzug geschrieben) | 08:26 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: ^ didn't you do something with the backlight yesterday? | 08:26 |
| seb128 | pitti, same issue than the one we had with gdm, there can only be one xsettings handler by display | 08:27 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, but it hasn't built yet (waiting on the colord MIR) | 08:27 |
| chrisccoulson | i changed the backlight OSD to use notify-osd | 08:27 |
| seb128 | pitti, the greeter one is running in :0, the greeter switch to the session but the session g-s-d can't start since there is already an handler set | 08:28 |
| chrisccoulson | that message doesn't look like anything i've touched ;) | 08:28 |
| pitti | ah | 08:28 |
| pitti | well, maybe the segfault is unrelated to that | 08:28 |
| pitti | so probably due to what seb128 says | 08:28 |
| seb128 | $ grep xsettings .xsession-errors | 08:28 |
| seb128 | ** (gnome-settings-daemon:1867): WARNING **: You can only run one xsettings manager at a time; exiting | 08:28 |
| seb128 | pitti, that warning is there since gpm moved to gsd | 08:28 |
| pitti | hm, why does the lightdm session keep running in the first place? | 08:28 |
| seb128 | that I need to check with robert_ancell | 08:29 |
| jbicha | rodrigo_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/673627/ it's part of gnome-packagekit | 08:29 |
| seb128 | pitti, it doesn't I think | 08:29 |
| seb128 | pitti, ps ax | grep greeter -> nothing | 08:29 |
| pitti | seb128: check "ps aux|grep lightdm" | 08:29 |
| seb128 | pitti, it's just that it doesn't clean as it should before starting the user session | 08:29 |
| pitti | I have gnome-settings-daemon, dbus-launch, notifyucation-daemon, gconfd, gelclue, gvfsd, syndaemon | 08:30 |
| rodrigo_ | jbicha, right, the problem is that we don't have pk in main | 08:30 |
| seb128 | pitti, right, the session doesn't keep running, just the processes it started | 08:30 |
| pitti | seb128: that sounds like a lot to run even while lightdm is running | 08:30 |
| seb128 | pitti, I bet it will make robert_ancell want systemd and cgroup handling ;-) | 08:30 |
| huats | seb128, I might have a question regarding the gtksourceview3 packaging. When I build the package it says that there is a new symbol that appears... I have understood that I need to add the new symbol in the symbols file, but which release number do I need to associate with ? the first packaged release where this symbols appears or the first upstream release where it appears ? | 08:31 |
| seb128 | pitti, those are mostly spawned by indicators that get loaded in the greeter, mterry is looking at cleaning that | 08:31 |
| pitti | right, what I mean is, we don't need notification-daemon or syndaemon in lightdm at all, but after starting the user session they should all go | 08:31 |
| pitti | didn't robert rant against running all these bits in the greeter and wrote lightdm for this? :-) | 08:31 |
| pitti | ah | 08:31 |
| seb128 | huats, we usually use the first packaged version | 08:31 |
| seb128 | huats, without the revision | 08:32 |
| seb128 | huats, is 3.1.4 in your case I think | 08:32 |
| huats | ok | 08:32 |
| seb128 | pitti, well the gtk greeter run nothing of that, it's a bit trickier with the unity one due to indicators and other things design added for it | 08:32 |
| huats | thanks ! | 08:32 |
| seb128 | pitti, but "known bug, being worked" in short | 08:32 |
| pitti | seb128: thanks | 08:32 |
| huats | then I should finish it today, it was a blocker for me almost since the begining, but I wanted to understand it clearly by myself :) | 08:33 |
| seb128 | pitti, we had a bit of a discussion about using g-s-d in the greeter, it makes some useful things | 08:33 |
| seb128 | pitti, only a couple of options are turned on in the greeter g-s-d, theme, xrandr, power basically | 08:33 |
| seb128 | I can see retracing \o/ | 08:39 |
| pitti | seems that the amd64 one is chugging away happily, so I'll setup an i386 one now | 08:41 |
| pitti | seb128: I'm holding back the lucid/maverick/natty ones FYI, they are less time sensitive, and I haven't extensively tested that yet | 08:42 |
| seb128 | pitti, wfm | 08:42 |
| pitti | seb128: ok, i386/amd64 are cron'ed now and both work | 08:47 |
| pitti | i386 should start in 20 mins, amd64 in 5 | 08:47 |
| seb128 | the amazing pitti! | 08:47 |
| seb128 | pitti, hug, you rock ;-) | 08:47 |
| pitti | seb128: can you have a quick look at osageorange ~ubuntu-archive/ ? | 08:47 |
| pitti | seb128: thanks :) | 08:47 |
| pitti | seb128: just want to give you a quick walkthrough | 08:48 |
| seb128 | pitti, is osageorange the same box that the old retracers? | 08:48 |
| pitti | seb128: yes | 08:48 |
| pitti | porter-i386 aka porter-amd64 | 08:48 |
| seb128 | ok, I'm there | 08:48 |
| seb128 | pitti, yeah, I use the porter alias, I'm bad with names :p | 08:49 |
| pitti | seb128: so, ~/apport/ is a checkout of the no-chroot branch | 08:49 |
| seb128 | ok | 08:49 |
| pitti | seb128: it doesn't need any particular setup, just checking out the source | 08:49 |
| pitti | I'll merge it into trunk after some final cleanups | 08:49 |
| pitti | seb128: please do a bzr diff in there | 08:49 |
| seb128 | created_since= | 08:50 |
| seb128 | nice | 08:50 |
| pitti | seb128: the "created_since='2011-07-01'" stuff is my workaround for the LP timeouts | 08:50 |
| pitti | we need to slowly move back until we caught the backlog, and LP doesn't time out yet | 08:50 |
| pitti | seb128: the other diff is that I temporarily disabled consolidation, I'll debug that next (dupe checking has almost caught up) | 08:50 |
| pitti | seb128: apport-retracer-{i386,amd64} are the old retracers and are now largely obsolete/useless | 08:51 |
| pitti | seb128: I moved all our hack scripts into the "scripts/" subdir | 08:51 |
| seb128 | good idea | 08:51 |
| pitti | seb128: cache-{i386,amd64} is for the new retracers, mostly to keep the apt tree and *.deb there, doesn't need any maintenance | 08:51 |
| pitti | seb128: if you ever have to reinstall this stuff, you can just rm -r and mkdir them | 08:52 |
| pitti | seb128: logs are now put into log/: dupcheck.txt, i386.txt, amd64.txt | 08:52 |
| pitti | seb128: the retracers are now not release specific any more, in theory they can retrace stuff from any release | 08:52 |
| pitti | seb128: the only release specific thing that they need is an apt sources.list for the built sandboxes (unpacking of the required debs and ddebs) | 08:53 |
| pitti | seb128: these are in config/<DistroRelease field value>/sources.list | 08:53 |
| pitti | seb128: they are shared between the i386/amd64 one | 08:53 |
| pitti | seb128: e. g. check config/Ubuntu\ 11.10/sources.list | 08:54 |
| seb128 | pitti, should that sources have natty-proposed and natty-updates ddebs? | 08:55 |
| seb128 | ups, it has | 08:55 |
| seb128 | ignore me ;-) | 08:55 |
| pitti | seb128: yes, you remember the reason? | 08:55 |
| pitti | seb128: I also prep'ed a config/Ubuntu\ 11.04.disabled/sources.list | 08:55 |
| seb128 | pitti, the ddebs are not archive copied to oneiric? | 08:56 |
| pitti | once it has caught up with oneiric, we can rename it and activate retracing for natty | 08:56 |
| seb128 | ok | 08:56 |
| pitti | and copy/paste/adjust accordingly for lucid/maverick | 08:56 |
| pitti | seb128: correct | 08:56 |
| pitti | seb128: the retracer should now crash a lot less on LP timeouts, it'll just retry the next time | 08:56 |
| seb128 | is there a lock of some way? | 08:57 |
| pitti | seb128: and finally, ~ has the lock files now: lock.dupcheck, lock.amd64, lock.i386 | 08:57 |
| pitti | seb128: snap :) | 08:57 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 08:57 |
| pitti | seb128: the dup checker just finished | 08:57 |
| pitti | it fully caught up | 08:57 |
| seb128 | I see the amd64 lock | 08:57 |
| seb128 | those seem much easier to maintain \o/ | 08:57 |
| pitti | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=need-duplicate-check | 08:57 |
| pitti | seb128: they are indeed; no chroots, no fakechroot, no separate instances per release, etc | 08:57 |
| pitti | seb128: finally, please check crontab -l | 08:58 |
| seb128 | it's like the best thing since sliced bread! ;-) | 08:58 |
| pitti | *beam* | 08:58 |
| pitti | yeah, it's so much easier, and more robust, too | 08:58 |
| pitti | seb128: amd64 started, so you can watch tail -f log/amd64.txt | 08:59 |
| seb128 | why did you keep the older retracer entries commented? | 08:59 |
| rodrigo_ | any idea of a reason the monitor would lose signal, apart from a hardware problem? | 08:59 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, xorg or video driver bug? | 08:59 |
| seb128 | i.e output turning off | 08:59 |
| rodrigo_ | I have this monitor connected to 2 computers, and seems to only happen on my oneiric box | 08:59 |
| pitti | seb128: just in case we need them back | 08:59 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, I guess so | 08:59 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, try asking on #ubuntu-x maybe | 08:59 |
| rodrigo_ | yeah | 08:59 |
| pitti | seb128: you'll see that I let the dupe retracer run in the lucid dchroot, as it's very stable | 08:59 |
| pitti | seb128: I let the i386/amd64 ones run in oneiric, as this has the most complete multiarch ld.so configuration | 09:00 |
| seb128 | ok, makes sense | 09:00 |
| pitti | seb128: I haven't yet tested retracing oneiric crashes in a lucid dchroot; my suspicion is that gdb looks for the ld.so configuration to find libraries | 09:00 |
| pitti | but I haven't checked that | 09:00 |
| pitti | but in general it seems good to use the latest gdb etc. | 09:01 |
| seb128 | well if that works in the oneiric environmment no reason to use lucid | 09:01 |
| pitti | right | 09:01 |
| pitti | I think natty should work as well, if the oneiric one ever goes bad | 09:01 |
| pitti | natty had the multiarch ld.so config already | 09:01 |
| pitti | seb128: ok, any other questions? | 09:01 |
| * pitti goes to try the consolidation | 09:02 | |
| seb128 | pitti, not so far | 09:02 |
| seb128 | let's see after having them running for some time | 09:02 |
| seb128 | but that seems well architectured and easy to use | 09:02 |
| seb128 | so I'm happy ;-) | 09:02 |
| * pitti hugs seb128 | 09:02 | |
| === mpt_ is now known as mpt | ||
| * seb128 hugs pitti back | 09:02 | |
| pitti | seb128: it's also quite a lot faster now | 09:02 |
| pitti | let's hope it catches up with the backlog in a few days | 09:03 |
| seb128 | pitti, we should maybe change the "created_since='2011-07-01'" to 08-15 I think | 09:03 |
| pitti | 0815 sounds nice | 09:03 |
| seb128 | pitti, i.e get the retracing that will work and are useful first | 09:04 |
| pitti | seb128: WFM | 09:04 |
| seb128 | then we can do all the old ones | 09:04 |
| seb128 | those will fail because version changed anyway | 09:04 |
| pitti | done | 09:04 |
| pitti | ok, let's see how far the consolidation gets | 09:05 |
| pitti | I want this working again as well | 09:05 |
| pitti | otherwise we won't catch regressions | 09:05 |
| glatzor | mvo, the "aptd crashed with SystemError: E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly" bug seems to go crazy today. | 09:06 |
| glatzor | mvo, we get several duplicates per minute! | 09:07 |
| bryceh | welll hello Apport retracer | 09:08 |
| mvo | glatzor: urgh, all against oneiric? | 09:15 |
| seb128 | glatzor, mvo: the retracers were down for some weeks so the dupchecker is catching up on weeks of backlog | 09:16 |
| seb128 | glatzor, mvo: i.e those are not filled from today | 09:16 |
| seb128 | glatzor, mvo: if that's of any consolation ;-) | 09:16 |
| glatzor | ah ok | 09:20 |
| glatzor | thanks seb128 for the clarification | 09:21 |
| seb128 | yw | 09:21 |
| ronoc | pitti, good work !! | 09:31 |
| seb128 | ronoc, oh btw I found a bug in indicator-session | 09:32 |
| ronoc | brilliant | 09:32 |
| seb128 | ronoc, it displays "software up to date" wrongly after doing some upgrades | 09:32 |
| ronoc | seb128, whats up ? | 09:32 |
| seb128 | ronoc, like I selected only 5 packages to upgrade in the 90 available | 09:33 |
| seb128 | i.e there are still 85 to upgrade | 09:33 |
| seb128 | but my indicator session says "software up to date" | 09:33 |
| ronoc | seb128, yeah I have seen this before. will check after beta freeze, | 09:33 |
| seb128 | ok, no hurry | 09:33 |
| seb128 | ronoc, seems to be easy to trigger by right clicking in update-manager, selecting only a few things to upgrade and upgrading those | 09:34 |
| seb128 | ronoc, it acts like "update-manager is done running, the system must be uptodate" ;-) | 09:34 |
| ronoc | seb128, yeah it seems to work fine at startup but after that it never reacts to another instance of apt running | 09:35 |
| seb128 | (somewhat a corner case, but I like to select updates I want or need and install those first) | 09:35 |
| jbicha | seb128: it used to always say "Updates Available" so at least they're trying different things :-) | 09:39 |
| seb128 | hehe | 09:40 |
| jbicha | close a bug, open a new one... | 09:40 |
| davmor2 | jbicha: Fail! You're meant to close one and open 2 your hearts just not in it is it ;) | 09:42 |
| jbicha | opening new bugs gets tiring! | 09:43 |
| bryceh | jbicha, write a lplib script to do it for you ;-) | 09:47 |
| jbicha | hmm, I'm just barely a programmer | 09:49 |
| jbicha | but it could be Python... | 09:49 |
| xclaesse | seb128, since clutter update in oneiric, when building empathy I get that: /usr/lib/libclutter-gst-1.0.so.0: undefined reference to `glGetIntegerv' | 10:00 |
| xclaesse | it's a link-time actually | 10:00 |
| seb128 | xclaesse, seems like a clutter-gstreamer issue, it maybe needs to be updated? | 10:00 |
| seb128 | ricotz, ^ do you know? | 10:01 |
| xclaesse | no update available atm... is migration still ongoing? | 10:01 |
| xclaesse | seb128, note that empathy does not link on clutter itself, dunno what pulls that | 10:01 |
| seb128 | xclaesse, I've no clue about clutter-gst, we don't use it | 10:01 |
| seb128 | let's wait if ricotz knows about the issue | 10:02 |
| xclaesse | ok :) | 10:02 |
| RAOF | Something's not linking to libGL correctly, it seems. | 10:03 |
| seb128 | likely clutter since that's the only thing that changed | 10:04 |
| seb128 | or clutter-gst was relying on clutter to bring the symbol | 10:04 |
| RAOF | That seems likely. | 10:05 |
| xclaesse | that's one issue, the other is why does empathy try to link on clutter at all | 10:05 |
| seb128 | xclaesse, because of the new call ui | 10:06 |
| seb128 | I guess | 10:06 |
| seb128 | it's using clutter-gst | 10:06 |
| xclaesse | clutter is in optional deps, but I'm not building with that | 10:06 |
| seb128 | ok, dunno then | 10:06 |
| xclaesse | and it compiles fine, the error is at linking | 10:06 |
| seb128 | well something tries to bring clutter in | 10:07 |
| xclaesse | I don't even have libclutter-gst-dev installed | 10:07 |
| seb128 | it doesn't happen on our builds for sure so it ought to work without it | 10:07 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, it's time to make the firefox apport hook attach submitted crash ID's to bug reports | 10:10 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, oh, i just went to sponsor gmime | 10:10 |
| chrisccoulson | denied ;) | 10:10 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, thanks | 10:10 |
| seb128 | doh, stupid from me to ask you | 10:10 |
| seb128 | the reason it needed sponsoring is because mathieu failed to upload it... | 10:11 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 10:11 |
| seb128 | pitti, ^ can you sponsor it? ;-) | 10:11 |
| seb128 | (will do a bit latter otherwise, I'm on a call now) | 10:11 |
| ricotz | xclaesse, this looks like clutter-gst misses to link against libGL since it uses this symbol | 10:12 |
| chrisccoulson | should probably be in the desktop packageset really, seeing as kubuntu-dev can upload it | 10:12 |
| chrisccoulson | oh | 10:12 |
| chrisccoulson | actually | 10:12 |
| chrisccoulson | they can't ;) | 10:12 |
| chrisccoulson | but could at some point | 10:12 |
| chrisccoulson | oneiric should come with a pair of sunglasses | 10:13 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, yeah, I asked cyphermox to email cjwatson to have it added to the set | 10:13 |
| seb128 | not sure if he did yet | 10:13 |
| chrisccoulson | if the dash isn't really bright, then my screen turns in to the sun every time i try to snap a window to the panel | 10:13 |
| xclaesse | ricotz, is that an ubuntu bug? | 10:14 |
| chrisccoulson | brb, session is ruined ;) | 10:14 |
| ricotz | xclaesse, actually not, they are blindly relying on something would pull it in while they are using it directly in "clutter-gst/clutter-gst-video-sink.c" | 10:15 |
| pitti | seb128: sorry, was in meeting; sponsor what? | 10:16 |
| seb128 | pitti, lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gmime/ubuntu | 10:18 |
| pitti | sure | 10:18 |
| seb128 | thanks | 10:18 |
| xclaesse | ricotz, ok reported: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657225 | 10:18 |
| pitti | gmime? new package? | 10:18 |
| ubot2 | Gnome bug 657225 in general "Missing dep on libGL" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 10:18 |
| pitti | oh, gmime2.4 | 10:18 |
| RAOF | seb128: I believe everything's ready for colord's MIR (bug #823185) to go ahead, but it's dinner time. Could you prod whichever MIR team member you wish to get that moved? Thanks. | 10:19 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 823185 in colord "[MIR] colord" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/823185 | 10:19 |
| chrisccoulson | is dragging windows around appear to be really laggy for anyone else? | 10:20 |
| pitti | WFM | 10:20 |
| chrisccoulson | window dragging is really choppy here | 10:20 |
| seb128 | pitti, ^ how do you feel propromoting it? kees said he would probably be ok (i.e there was no issue he could think about when I asked him yesterday) once RAOF's update to run a normal user would land | 10:21 |
| seb128 | that would unblock g-s-d etc build | 10:22 |
| xclaesse | ricotz, still wondering why that link pulls clutter at all: http://fpaste.org/WUX0/ | 10:22 |
| pitti | seb128: sounds ok to me now | 10:23 |
| pitti | seb128: so go ahead | 10:24 |
| ricotz | xclaesse, are you sure this is the right paste? | 10:25 |
| xclaesse | ricotz, yes, that's the command that link empathy binary | 10:26 |
| xclaesse | and that produce the error | 10:26 |
| ricotz | alright | 10:26 |
| ricotz | xclaesse, you are trying to build 3.1.5.1? | 10:27 |
| seb128 | pitti, can you do it? (it's my 1:1 catchup turn :p) | 10:27 |
| seb128 | pitti, or I will do it in a bit | 10:27 |
| xclaesse | ricotz, building master | 10:27 |
| rodrigo_ | more hardware-related problems, now the CD drive is not recognized :( | 10:28 |
| ricotz | xclaesse, ok, let me try, i havent much time to look into this though | 10:29 |
| pitti | seb128: ok | 10:34 |
| seb128 | pitti, danke | 10:38 |
| seb128 | pitti, oh btw, we got ack to turn off login sound by default in Oneiric | 10:38 |
| seb128 | (I will try to look at that today) | 10:38 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, great! do we still actually have that on? | 10:39 |
| seb128 | well I don't remember we implicitely turned it of | 10:39 |
| seb128 | off | 10:39 |
| seb128 | maybe it got broken? in any case let keep it off ;-) | 10:39 |
| seb128 | (done with my call btw) | 10:39 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, still on in guest session | 10:45 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, do you think you could have a look to bug #751900 and see if you can help Torsten? | 10:46 |
| seb128 | ups bug #705791 | 10:47 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 705791 in gnome-screensaver "T-61 Multi Monitor: gnome-screensaver does not show login dialog after resume in docking station with lid closed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/705791 | 10:47 |
| seb128 | if you have a clue about this gnome-screensaver code | 10:48 |
| seb128 | I know you look at bit at g-s before | 10:48 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, he has a tentative patch and needs some help | 10:48 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, sure, will take a look in a bit | 10:48 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, no hurry, thanks | 10:49 |
| xclaesse | ricotz, ok I've understood, here is builds with libcheese | 10:52 |
| xclaesse | that's what pulls clutter | 10:52 |
| glatzor | mvo, any news on the AddLicenseKey issue from the server team? | 10:52 |
| chrisccoulson | bah, compiz is just sat here using 40% of my CPU | 10:52 |
| xclaesse | ricotz, and afaik ubuntu's package disabled cheese support | 10:52 |
| ricotz | xclaesse, ubuntu builds with --enable-call=no which prevents pulling clutter deps | 10:53 |
| xclaesse | ricotz, you probably need --with-cheese=no too | 10:55 |
| xclaesse | we are using optionally cheese to take a picture to set avatar | 10:55 |
| ricotz | i see | 10:56 |
| xclaesse | well, configure will default to not use libcheese if the headers can't be found | 10:57 |
| ricotz | xclaesse, right, i am still blaming clutter-gst for this ;) | 10:58 |
| xclaesse | ricotz, yep. thanks for your help :) | 10:58 |
| ricotz | you could try to patch clutter-gst.pc locally | 10:58 |
| ricotz | btw i could confirm this error | 10:59 |
| jasoncwarner_ | seb128 & pitti - first compiz crash of the day... | 11:20 |
| jasoncwarner_ | opened gnome-tweak-tool and it sorta spazzed out ;) | 11:20 |
| seb128 | jasoncwarner_, use apport to send it if you can, we have retracers again thanks to pitti | 11:36 |
| pitti | meh gmime2.4 FTBFS | 11:38 |
| seb128 | oh? | 11:39 |
| seb128 | something to fix for cyphermox then | 11:39 |
| pitti | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 11:40 |
| pitti | docbook-utils : Depends: jadetex but it is not going to be installed | 11:40 |
| pitti | hm | 11:40 |
| pitti | I don't see it on oneiric_probs or component-mismatches | 11:41 |
| pitti | and it installs fine here | 11:41 |
| pitti | jbicha: should aisleriot have a dependency to gnome-cards-data? currently it only suggests it | 11:42 |
| pitti | jbicha: and thus g-c-d wants to go to universe | 11:42 |
| jbicha | pitti: no, we ship aisleriot on the CD & there's a built-in button under View to install the extra card themes | 11:46 |
| pitti | jbicha: ah, it already ships a default theme? good, thanks | 11:46 |
| jbicha | yes, that package used to be called extra themes or something but I decided to just use the Debian name for it | 11:47 |
| jbicha | actually, I think it's got 2 themes, Ubuntu & Gnome branded, I just will have to fix branding-ubuntu later this week to put the cards in the right location | 11:48 |
| jbicha | *2 themes on the CD | 11:48 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| pedro_ | yay retracers! | 11:58 |
| * pitti ^5s pedro_ | 11:58 | |
| pedro_ | thanks pitti , you rock! | 11:58 |
| seb128 | pedro_, ola senior ;-) | 12:00 |
| pedro_ | lut seb128!, how are you? | 12:00 |
| seb128 | pedro_, I'm good thanks | 12:00 |
| seb128 | pedro_, how are you? | 12:00 |
| seb128 | pedro_, you missed the european summer, it's over 35°C this week! | 12:01 |
| pedro_ | seb128, feeling great today , happy cause of the retracers ;-) | 12:01 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 12:01 |
| pedro_ | seb128, :-/ not fair, berlin was cold and so it was london | 12:01 |
| pedro_ | :-( | 12:01 |
| seb128 | pedro_, let's wait for all the bugs you will have to triage and see if you are still happy :p | 12:01 |
| pedro_ | heh | 12:02 |
| seb128 | pedro_, yeah, it started being hot during the w.e | 12:02 |
| seb128 | pedro_, but I blame it on you, you did bring the chilian winter with you! | 12:02 |
| pedro_ | seb128, haha and the riots | 12:02 |
| pedro_ | there were some in London, Madrid and now in Santiago | 12:03 |
| pedro_ | all my fault | 12:03 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 12:03 |
| rodrigo_ | hmm, where's libgnomekbd 3.0 branch? the u-d one has 2.32 | 12:04 |
| * rodrigo_ forgot | 12:05 | |
| glatzor | pitti, what is the status of the gdbus server bindings for python? can we expect them to land soon? | 12:05 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, it was synced from debian so there is no uptodate vcs | 12:06 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, just commit the current source in the vcs and update on that or update without vcs | 12:06 |
| rodrigo_ | ah, right | 12:06 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, whatever is easier for you | 12:06 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, was just going to try the just released 3.1.90 | 12:07 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, yeah, well either use the vcs after updating it of just don't use a vcs, whatever is easier ;-) | 12:07 |
| pitti | glatzor: it's three bug fixes away, but I'm currently blocked by gnome bug 656554 | 12:08 |
| ubot2 | Gnome bug 656554 in introspection "Marshalling GVariants does not work for closures" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=656554 | 12:08 |
| * rodrigo_ -> lunch | 12:15 | |
| cyphermox | o/ | 12:23 |
| seb128 | hey cyphermox, how are you? | 12:24 |
| cyphermox | bad | 12:24 |
| cyphermox | gmime2.4 not building, I mean, why? | 12:25 |
| seb128 | oh? :-( | 12:25 |
| seb128 | lol | 12:25 |
| seb128 | seems like it's a build-depends installability fault and not yours? | 12:25 |
| cyphermox | trying to understand why | 12:25 |
| cyphermox | or was pitti alredy checking that out? | 12:25 |
| === renate is now known as glatzor_u | ||
| pitti | cyphermox: I tried a rebuild, but it failed again | 12:26 |
| cyphermox | seb128: other than that it's a nice day starting, how about you? | 12:26 |
| pitti | cyphermox: do you happen to have a clean oneiric pbuilder? | 12:26 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, days is being good so far, thanks to pitti we have retracers! | 12:26 |
| cyphermox | pitti: was sbuild, but yes | 12:26 |
| pitti | someone needs to create an oneiric pbuilder with just main apt sources | 12:26 |
| pitti | and try to build it there (or at least install the build deps) | 12:26 |
| cyphermox | sure, that shouldn't take too long | 12:26 |
| pitti | cyphermox: I checked local install, component-mismatches, and oneiric_probs, it's nowhere | 12:27 |
| pitti | usually this kind of thing appears due to universe deps etc. | 12:27 |
| cyphermox | right | 12:27 |
| cyphermox | building a pbuilder chroot with just main now | 12:30 |
| seb128 | if you have on no need to build a new one | 12:30 |
| seb128 | usually pbuilder login, update the sources.list and try to install the build-dep works | 12:30 |
| cyphermox | well, I no longer carry pbuilder chroots, now I use sbuild | 12:31 |
| seb128 | ok | 12:31 |
| cyphermox | guess I could do just the same there too | 12:31 |
| pitti | I only use dchroots these days, too | 12:31 |
| pitti | but I don't have an oneiric one, that's why I asked if someone has an oneiric pbuilder | 12:31 |
| cyphermox | huh. hold on a sec | 12:33 |
| cyphermox | my sbuild build yesterday should say whether something was taken from universe | 12:33 |
| cyphermox | eg. Get: X http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric/universe | 12:34 |
| cyphermox | but sadly, there isn't one. | 12:34 |
| === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley | ||
| seb128 | cyphermox, pitti: seems to work in a pbuilder for me | 12:36 |
| seb128 | doesn't really make sense | 12:36 |
| Laney | rodrigo_: I noticed on tomboy that it asked me to press "Save" when linking to my U1 account, but the save button remained insensitive and when I reopened the preferences I was told it was linked successfully. Perhaps that's no longer needed — could you check? | 12:40 |
| Laney | 1.7.4-1ubuntu1 | 12:40 |
| cyphermox | seb128: pitti: might be an issue in texlive-binaries: | 12:44 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, how so? | 12:46 |
| cyphermox | http://paste.ubuntu.com/673789 | 12:46 |
| pitti | texlive-bin was just uploaded 3 hours ago | 12:46 |
| pitti | ah, it might not have been published then | 12:47 |
| pitti | armel is being published | 12:47 |
| pitti | the rest is in | 12:47 |
| * pitti tries another rebuild | 12:47 | |
| pitti | given back, let's see | 12:47 |
| cyphermox | pitti: texlive-binaries Breaks: texlive-base (<< 2009-12) which hasn't made it yet | 12:49 |
| seb128 | I'm wondering if we need those docbook-utils build-depends? | 12:49 |
| seb128 | I've been building things for a while without it and I didn't notice issues | 12:50 |
| seb128 | like I drop the control line usually since it started bringing and hundred mb of latex | 12:50 |
| pitti | cyphermox: ah, so I'll sync texlive-base | 12:50 |
| seb128 | which I refuse to install and keep downloading for nothing | 12:50 |
| cyphermox | ok, trying to build without it | 12:52 |
| cyphermox | maybe this is a dumb question, but is there a tool that facilitates comparing what makes it in two different bu | 12:53 |
| cyphermox | *binary packages | 12:53 |
| cyphermox | I usually diff and vgrep but it's painful | 12:53 |
| pitti | cyphermox: debdiff | 12:54 |
| pitti | cyphermox: it's very handy, shows you the added/removed files, and wdiff of the control section | 12:55 |
| cyphermox | oh debdiff directly against the .deb? | 12:55 |
| cyphermox | I fail :) | 12:55 |
| pitti | two debs | 12:55 |
| cyphermox | right | 12:55 |
| pitti | seb128: FYI, ~/apport is lp:apport now, I just merged the branch into trunk | 12:56 |
| seb128 | pitti, \o/ | 12:57 |
| cyphermox | hrm, who wants an update of NM to 0.9.0? :) | 13:05 |
| pitti | cyphermox: sounds a lot better to me than 0.8.9997+git.20110721t045648.36db194! | 13:06 |
| pitti | cyphermox: FYI, I synced texlive-base, once it's published I'll re-try the gmime build again | 13:06 |
| cyphermox | cool | 13:07 |
| cyphermox | yeah, pitti, it's partly why I want to push it... I'll file a FFE bug now unless you tell me that's not really needed | 13:07 |
| pitti | cyphermox: depends on the delta | 13:08 |
| pitti | if it's just bug fixes, no FFE needed (by definition) | 13:08 |
| pitti | if it has new features/UI/changes API/ABI/D-BUS API/behaviour, it will | 13:09 |
| cyphermox | nah, looks like bugfix to me (and if not I already had the change from a cherry-picked patch) | 13:11 |
| pitti | there's not too much room between 0.8.999+something and 0.9.0 anyway :) | 13:11 |
| cyphermox | indeed | 13:11 |
| pitti | but still worth checking the changelog | 13:11 |
| pitti | API/ABI breaks are rather inconvenient this close to the beta | 13:12 |
| cyphermox | the only issue is with the libnl3 stuff which complicates things, but it's already largely in | 13:12 |
| cyphermox | I'll upload the 0.9.0 release of nm-applet too, there's practically no change and this will reduce the version number to something sane | 13:12 |
| cyphermox | then before I make a new upload in P for NM, we'll rethink the numbering to something shorter ;) | 13:13 |
| pitti | cyphermox: version+git<date> is usually sufficient | 13:14 |
| pitti | but <date>.<commitid> is ok as well | 13:14 |
| pitti | two commit IDs seem a little exaggerated, and also it's not quite clear what they mean | 13:14 |
| cyphermox | it's not two | 13:14 |
| cyphermox | it's date<t>time | 13:14 |
| pitti | how is "045648" a time? | 13:14 |
| cyphermox | I was thinking about dropping this altogether and keeping just the commit | 13:15 |
| pitti | but if you include a time, then a commit ID seems redundant | 13:15 |
| pitti | cyphermox: but commit IDs in git aren't monotonous | 13:15 |
| cyphermox | 045648 as opposed to 165648 ;) | 13:15 |
| cyphermox | oh, right | 13:15 |
| * Laney uses date.rX.commit where X is a sequence starting from 1 | 13:15 | |
| cyphermox | well, anyway just the dane | 13:15 |
| cyphermox | *date | 13:15 |
| pitti | just like anything else in git, it wasn't designed for humans :) | 13:15 |
| dobey | pitti, mvo: hey guys. either of you know how to override a GtkWidget method in Python with GIR API? i can't find any docs/examplse on it :( | 13:15 |
| pitti | dobey: I don't know either, I'm afraid, I never tried; #introspection on irc.gnome.org might help | 13:16 |
| cyphermox | Laney: guess I otherwise could use the bzr commits from the mirrored branch for nm, although that seems wrong, even if it would give something like just ver+bzr29348 | 13:16 |
| pitti | cyphermox: at least they are monotonous, but I think date+commit ID usually works fine | 13:17 |
| cyphermox | aye | 13:17 |
| pitti | one seldomly does more than one upload a day | 13:17 |
| cyphermox | pitti: you haven't touched NM have you? ;) | 13:17 |
| pitti | and if you do, and the new commit ID happens to be smaller, <date>.1+commitid :) | 13:17 |
| cyphermox | oh, right, *upload* | 13:17 |
| pitti | cyphermox: I actually did, but I don't usually upload new snapshots three times a day | 13:17 |
| cyphermox | :) | 13:18 |
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| cjwatson | cyphermox: there are still a lot of evolution reverse-deps on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/nbs.html - do you need help? | 13:32 |
| seb128 | mvo, does apturl need to recommends libgtk2-perl? | 13:33 |
| cjwatson | I did a few easy ones | 13:33 |
| mvo | seb128: its for debconf gtk | 13:33 |
| cjwatson | sflphone uses libedataserverui and doesn't look easy to port | 13:33 |
| cyphermox | cjwatson: actually, there are two which bothered me a bit | 13:33 |
| seb128 | mvo, hum ok, any plan to move away from that for next cycle? | 13:33 |
| cyphermox | tracker and mail-notification, but it's also due to other things like gtk2/gtk3 IIRC | 13:33 |
| cjwatson | seb128: in favour of what? | 13:33 |
| seb128 | mvo, I'm trying to make sure we are on track to kick gtk2 out of the CD for the lts | 13:33 |
| cjwatson | oh, GTK 3 you mean | 13:34 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, a gtk3 solution? | 13:34 |
| cjwatson | I thought this was more anti-perl religion :) | 13:34 |
| cyphermox | hmm.. perl. | 13:34 |
| seb128 | well, I'm fine with perl as long as I don't have to fix bugs in perl code :p | 13:34 |
| cjwatson | so, uh, what's happening with perl gir support then? | 13:34 |
| dobey | perl is nice, if you use it for sane things | 13:34 |
| pitti | (well, it's actually pretty much the last package which holds big chunks of perl libs on the CD, too) | 13:35 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, that's a good question, I need to check | 13:35 |
| cjwatson | pitti: I'm aware of that | 13:35 |
| dobey | writing gtk+ apps in perl isn't sane though :) | 13:35 |
| cjwatson | oh give it a rest :P | 13:35 |
| cjwatson | cdebconf is making some progress again | 13:35 |
| pitti | but fortunately for oneiric the CD size matter is pretty much done, at least for desktop | 13:35 |
| pitti | I still need to figure out what happened to the alternates | 13:35 |
| cjwatson | I don't know if it will be ready for P though; I wouldn't like to bet on it | 13:35 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, is that likely to be something you will have time for in the next cycle? (cdebconf) | 13:35 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, well assuming it's not a risky change for a lts | 13:35 |
| seb128 | ok | 13:35 |
| seb128 | you just replied to that :p | 13:36 |
| cjwatson | it's not unrisky | 13:36 |
| cjwatson | also, next cycle will be tricky for me with a baby on the way; I'm likely to have to cut back | 13:36 |
| seb128 | right | 13:36 |
| cjwatson | fortunately I'm not the one working on cdebconf in Debian at the moment :) | 13:36 |
| seb128 | I've a feeling we will not get gtk2 out of the CD next cycle anyway | 13:36 |
| seb128 | would it only be due to firefox and libreoffice | 13:36 |
| cjwatson | a debconf gtk3 frontend is probably more realistic, provided that the bindings are in place | 13:37 |
| mvo | seb128: I guess its just a matter of porting the debconf perl frontend | 13:37 |
| pitti | seb128: if we can get rid of at least gtk2-webkit, that'd already help a lot | 13:37 |
| mvo | seb128: eh, debconf gtk3 | 13:37 |
| seb128 | pitti, that's basically up to u1 | 13:37 |
| cjwatson | and I suspect that gtk3 perl bindings would be a lot smaller than libgtk2-perl | 13:37 |
| cjwatson | at least they ought to be if done right | 13:37 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, I assume so if they use introspection | 13:38 |
| seb128 | let's see | 13:38 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, mvo: thanks | 13:38 |
| cjwatson | I think they do | 13:38 |
| cjwatson | cyphermox: I was wondering if it might be practical to reintroduce a gtk2 libedataserverui for a while | 13:38 |
| cjwatson | otherwise we have to do gtk2->3 ports in order to fix nbs ... | 13:38 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, or drop those sources | 13:38 |
| pitti | oh, speaking of reintroducing, we need to reintroduce the ealier gnome-menus | 13:38 |
| seb128 | I would be favor of dropping outdated code for libpanel-applet and e-d-s | 13:39 |
| pitti | lots of rdepends on NBS, and if for nothign else we'll need it for s-c | 13:39 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, the panel applets are in the same situation | 13:39 |
| cjwatson | yeah | 13:39 |
| cjwatson | dropping or not is up to you guys but it needs to be cleared up either way ... | 13:39 |
| seb128 | well a difference is that for the panel we can't add back an old source | 13:39 |
| seb128 | it would work for e-d-s | 13:40 |
| seb128 | in fact debian did that | 13:40 |
| mvo | pitti: there is a freeze exception for the gtk3 version pending, that would elliminate the need for s-c | 13:40 |
| cyphermox | some other things indeed fail because of panel bits | 13:40 |
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| seb128 | chrisccoulson, btw do you still plan to work on the lock screen gnome-shell looking issue? | 13:45 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, mdeslaur already has a fix for that. do we want the gnome-shell look when not in unity though? | 13:46 |
| chrisccoulson | as his patch reverts the new style unconditionally | 13:46 |
| seb128 | it would be better yes | 13:46 |
| seb128 | did you have a patch doing it in a conditional way? | 13:46 |
| seb128 | njpatel, what's the recommend way to test for a software if it's in an unity session? | 13:46 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, i had one to hide the panel | 13:47 |
| chrisccoulson | but mdeslaur has also reverted the dialog changes, to add the user name back to it | 13:47 |
| chrisccoulson | which we would also want | 13:47 |
| njpatel | seb128, check com.canonical.Unity exists or not | 13:47 |
| njpatel | seb128, also XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP | 13:47 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, i just looked at GDMSESSION ;) | 13:47 |
| njpatel | gives Unity now | 13:47 |
| njpatel | which is nice | 13:48 |
| seb128 | we should have a boilerplate C function on a wiki or something that you can copy | 13:48 |
| mterry | seb128, btw, ecryptfs & lightdm still seem to hate each other when autologin is in play | 13:49 |
| pitti | mterry: ecryptfs and autologin? | 13:49 |
| pitti | how does that work? | 13:49 |
| seb128 | mterry, how can you autologin on ecryptfs? | 13:49 |
| pitti | if autologin works with ecryptfs, we're doing something wrong | 13:49 |
| mterry | Well, right now the UI lets you do it, then you get .ICE errors and such | 13:50 |
| mterry | How did GDM handle it in the past? | 13:50 |
| pitti | mterry: ah, we need to port our old gdmsetup fix for that to the account settings? | 13:50 |
| seb128 | it should probably not let you do it | 13:50 |
| seb128 | mterry, it shouldn't let you turn autologin on for ecryptfs account | 13:51 |
| pitti | mterry: gdmsetup checked if the selected user had an ecryptfs and if so, disabled the autologin option for him | 13:51 |
| mterry | I see | 13:51 |
| seb128 | bug #284443 | 13:51 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 284443 in gdm "gdmsetup: Don't offer autologin for ecryptfs users" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/284443 | 13:51 |
| mterry | hah, delightfully low bug number | 13:51 |
| seb128 | mterry, see 42_no_ecryptfs_autologin.patch in the gdm patches | 13:52 |
| seb128 | mterry, if you have interest in ecryptfs btw, bug #284443 | 13:53 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 284443 in gdm "gdmsetup: Don't offer autologin for ecryptfs users" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/284443 | 13:53 |
| seb128 | ups bug #816669 | 13:53 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 816669 in gnome-control-center "encrypted-home support in new user dialog" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/816669 | 13:53 |
| seb128 | it's something we didn't come to do which is a regression compared to natty | 13:54 |
| kirkland | autologin + ecryptfs should never work; the "security" there would be a total farce | 13:54 |
| kirkland | any progress on the lightdm + ecryptfs login bug? the one where lightdm is creating some files before $HOME is mounted? | 13:54 |
| seb128 | kirkland, that one got fixed a week ago | 13:55 |
| kirkland | seb128: hmm, let me reboot and try then | 13:56 |
| seb128 | kirkland, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lightdm-team/lightdm/trunk/revision/1060 | 13:57 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: just to be clear, you're not expecting me to do anything with gnome-screensaver, right? | 14:05 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, upload your fixes? ;-) | 14:06 |
| chrisccoulson | mdeslaur, oh, yeah, i forgot - you've got your hands full with nspluginwrapper! | 14:07 |
| chrisccoulson | ;) | 14:07 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: as chrisccoulson said, my patches unconditionally revert the gnome-shell look. If you're ok with that, I'll upload it. If not, chrisccoulson needs to fix it. | 14:07 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 14:08 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: hehe | 14:08 |
| rodrigo_ | BigWhale, hey | 14:08 |
| seb128 | I would say "get that in for ui freeze, we can fix the conditional behaviour later" | 14:08 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, mdeslaur: ^ | 14:08 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: ok, I'll upload it in a few minutes then | 14:08 |
| rodrigo_ | BigWhale, diod you see/test the fix for the introspection problem you were having? | 14:08 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, thanks | 14:08 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, ok, makes sense | 14:08 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks! | 14:08 |
| chrisccoulson | i need to get the new thunderbird theme in before UI freeze anyway ;) | 14:09 |
| GunnarHj | rodrigo_: Hi Rodrigo, I downloaded the latest git source yesterday, and have written a pure Ubuntu patch that applies to it. | 14:14 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, hey | 14:14 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, do you know about language-selector not letting install input methods in Oneiric? | 14:15 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, like if you select chinese (or any other language) in the installation list, you can only select the translation checkbox | 14:15 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Hello Sebastien. | 14:15 |
| seb128 | the input ones are never active | 14:15 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: No, I had no idea. Is there a bug report about it? | 14:16 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, not that I know, I just noticed it in testing, I wanted to see if somebody else can confirm before reporting or if that's a known issue | 14:16 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: I'll look at it later today. | 14:17 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, thanks! | 14:17 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, do you want a bug about it? | 14:17 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: No, that can wait for now. | 14:18 |
| seb128 | ok | 14:18 |
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| rodrigo_ | GunnarHj, cool, I'll upload it with the next upstream release we upload in ubuntu | 14:19 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Btw, did you look at bug 770091? | 14:20 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 770091 in ubiquity "Unsolicited attempt to import files and settings" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/770091 | 14:20 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, no, I will try to have a look today, thanks for the reminder | 14:20 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Tnx. | 14:20 |
| GunnarHj | rodrigo_: You said in about two weeks, didn't you? | 14:21 |
| GunnarHj | rodrigo_: I ask, because I'd like the functionality to be in place in Beta 1. Thinking of preparing a patch for the current orig that is as similar as possible, and that can be upload right away. | 14:26 |
| pitti | is that only me, or does compiz take a constant 30% CPU for other people, too? | 14:31 |
| pitti | seb128: ^ seems the new compiz did not get only better :( | 14:31 |
| seb128 | pitti, chrisccoulson had the issue before | 14:32 |
| seb128 | dbarth, njpatel: ^ | 14:32 |
| dobey | mvo: are you aware that aptdaemon.gtk3widgets doesn't actually work with gtk3 on natty? :) | 14:32 |
| seb128 | it's around 21% for me and used almost 1 hour or cpu time since this morning | 14:32 |
| rodrigo_ | GunnarHj, in 2 weeks, yes | 14:32 |
| pitti | dobey: on natty it uses GTK2 | 14:33 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, pitti - yeah, it's still doing it here | 14:33 |
| pitti | dobey: yeah, it shuold have been called gtk-gi-widgets or so | 14:33 |
| chrisccoulson | my laptop feels like it's melting | 14:33 |
| dobey | pitti: well, even if you have the gir for gtk3 installed, it totally breaks :( | 14:33 |
| njpatel | pitti, open your dash, is the spinner spinning? | 14:33 |
| dobey | pitti: because Vte requires 2.0, and it loads 3.0 before Vte gets loaded | 14:33 |
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| dobey | so fun times | 14:33 |
| dbarth | seb128, pitti: noted | 14:33 |
| njpatel | pitti, (on any of the lenses) | 14:33 |
| seb128 | njpatel, it's spinning for me | 14:34 |
| seb128 | on the application lens | 14:34 |
| njpatel | yeah, it's fixed in trunk, will be part of the next update | 14:35 |
| njpatel | sorry, that was my bad | 14:35 |
| mvo | dobey: I wasn't aware of this, but i'm not that suprised, like pitti said, we use gtk2 there by default | 14:36 |
| GunnarHj | rodrigo_: Ok. Then I'll try to make that patch. Are you able to fix it so that the Language Support launcher is shown on the cc window? | 14:36 |
| rodrigo_ | GunnarHj, what do you mean? | 14:37 |
| dobey | mvo: right. just making my life difficult at the moment :) | 14:37 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, patching css is not fun :/ | 14:37 |
| rodrigo_ | dobey, btw, when you uploaded couchdb-glib, you didn't update the lp:~ubuntu-desktop/couchdb-glib/ubuntu branch | 14:38 |
| rodrigo_ | dobey, I've done it, but remember to do so next time, please | 14:38 |
| dobey | rodrigo_: i don't have write permissions to that. and i wasn't aware i should have proposed it to merge into there | 14:39 |
| dobey | sorry | 14:39 |
| rodrigo_ | dobey, yes, I know, that's why I tell you :) | 14:39 |
| rodrigo_ | no problem, just so that you know | 14:39 |
| GunnarHj | rodrigo_: Currently the Region and Language launcher is shown also in Ubuntu, but language-selector is going to be used in Oneiric, right? | 14:39 |
| dobey | rodrigo_: what a pain :( | 14:39 |
| rodrigo_ | GunnarHj, if we can't get all the stuff in the upstream one, yes | 14:39 |
| rodrigo_ | GunnarHj, but there's still work going on upstream | 14:40 |
| rodrigo_ | dobey, best thing is to just propose a branch against lp:~ubuntu-desktop/couchdb-glib/ubuntu and let the person (me) who does the review do the full sponsoring (merging, uploading) | 14:40 |
| dobey | rodrigo_: that would be easy if said person weren't on holiday i guess :) | 14:41 |
| rodrigo_ | dobey, then seb128 ort any other ubuntu-desktop member can do it :) | 14:41 |
| GunnarHj | rodrigo_: The impression I had is that quite some work remains to be done. Such as maintaining LANGUAGE, input method setting, installing langpacks... | 14:43 |
| rodrigo_ | GunnarHj, maintaining LANGUAGE? | 14:43 |
| rodrigo_ | GunnarHj, input method setting is available in the layouts tab, not sure though if that covers all the cases | 14:44 |
| GunnarHj | rodrigo_: Yes. Have a look at the language-selector UI about LANGUAGE. | 14:44 |
| rodrigo_ | GunnarHj, and installing langpacks, yes that's hard to do cross-distro, so I was thinking on just patching g-c-c to have a button | 14:45 |
| rodrigo_ | GunnarHj, looked at it, still not sure what you mean | 14:46 |
| GunnarHj | rodrigo_: Ubuntu does not only set a locale, but also the priority list in LANGUAGE. | 14:48 |
| rodrigo_ | GunnarHj, and what is that priority used for? | 14:48 |
| GunnarHj | rodrigo_: Fallback when translations are not complete. | 14:49 |
| rodrigo_ | GunnarHj, and where does it store that setting? | 14:49 |
| pitti | njpatel: hm, I restarted (broke some other stuff, I had to), it's gone now | 14:49 |
| pitti | mvo, dobey: in oneiric it actually does use GTK3, FTR | 14:50 |
| dobey | pitti: yeah, in oneiric it's not a problem because vte is using gtk3 | 14:50 |
| njpatel | pitti, yeah, most likely it will come back if you search for something in the dash | 14:50 |
| njpatel | it's fixed in trunk | 14:50 |
| GunnarHj | rodrigo_: It's stored in ~/.profile. | 14:50 |
| pitti | njpatel: confirmed | 14:51 |
| pitti | njpatel: cheers | 14:51 |
| rodrigo_ | GunnarHj, hmm, how is it stored? the env vars there can just have 1 locale, not a list of | 14:51 |
| GunnarHj | rodrigo_: LANGUAGE is different. A value can consist of "de:es_ES:en" | 14:53 |
| rodrigo_ | GunnarHj, ah | 14:53 |
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| rodrigo_ | GunnarHj, hmm, does it work, it doesn't seem to store there anything other than the language I select | 14:54 |
| rodrigo_ | ? | 14:54 |
| rodrigo_ | ah, now it works | 14:55 |
| GunnarHj | rodrigo_: With my suggested patch it would have done. | 14:55 |
| mvo | dobey: I think its best to use the gtk2 on natty and smaller and gtk3 on oneiric, that is what update-manager is doing too (but of course u-m only needs to support a single version for your its slightly more complicated as you will have the same code running on multiple versions, right?) | 14:56 |
| dobey | mvo: yes, i am just trying to support both and it is very difficult, because upstream doesn't want to support gi for gtk2 it seems :( | 14:57 |
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| rodrigo_ | GunnarHj, hmm, I'm thinking we could just add the .desktop magic so that language-selector is shown in unity and the upstream region panel in gnome | 14:58 |
| rodrigo_ | GunnarHj, at least until we have all features in the upstream one, but for this LANGUAGE thing we're going to need some design, so too late for 3.2 | 14:58 |
| cyphermox | seb128: totem> what was about the gir for totem? we already have a gir binary for it, so I'm not sure if things really need to be moved around for this | 14:58 |
| GunnarHj | rodrigo_: I feel there are quite some issues we ought to discuss further, and time is running out for Oneiric. I think that the right thing to do now is to keep language-selector in Oneiric. | 14:59 |
| mvo | dobey: yeah, I ran in a lot of issues with static vs dynamic bindings and that you can't mix them at all | 14:59 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, the typelib is in the gir binary, the .gir is in totem and should be moved to libtotem-dev (with the corresponding replaces) | 14:59 |
| GunnarHj | rodrigo_: Sure, that .desktop magic sounds great; I just don't know how it works. :) | 15:00 |
| rodrigo_ | GunnarHj, I think the only not doable thing is the LABGUAGE thing | 15:00 |
| rodrigo_ | GunnarHj, ok, I'll patch g-c-c and language-selector | 15:00 |
| dobey | mvo: i'm not even mixing bindings in this code. it's just that differences between gtk3/gtk2 APIs is pain, and some things aren't in the GI :( | 15:00 |
| cyphermox | ah, ok | 15:01 |
| seb128 | mvo, hey, could you update libsigc++ to 2.2.10? asking you because you did the previous update and the new version is needed for the glib cpp binding to build, they are ftbfsing with the current version | 15:01 |
| mvo | dobey: right :( yeah, I feel the pain, what I wanted to say is I guess that the whole transition is really bumpy | 15:01 |
| GunnarHj | rodrigo_: Maybe LANGUAGE is the trickiest one. I'm not sure that ~/.profile is the best storing place going forward either; that's one thing I'd like to talk about. | 15:02 |
| mvo | seb128: I can have a look, I assume there is no debian version yet? | 15:03 |
| seb128 | mvo, no there isn't | 15:03 |
| seb128 | mvo, thanks | 15:03 |
| dobey | mvo: bumpy is an understatement. feels like falling down the side of a jagged cliff :( | 15:03 |
| GunnarHj | rodrigo_: Great if you patch g-c-c with the l-s launcher. | 15:03 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: you had a patch for the gss that was conditional with getenv? can I see it? (I may fix this right) | 15:04 |
| mvo | dobey: well put, I had this feeling a couple of times when reading the gir xml to figure out how to call something | 15:04 |
| seb128 | pitti, could you nudge https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/1909467/+listing-archive-extra please? danke | 15:06 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, hey | 15:08 |
| rodrigo_ | hi seb128 :) | 15:08 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, how are design tweaks going? did you have time to work on those? | 15:08 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, oh, had a look on Friday, but then forgot, sorry | 15:09 |
| pitti | seb128: done | 15:09 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, well at least the theme selection ui? | 15:09 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, ui freeze is tomorrow :-( | 15:09 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, will have a look now after I buiuld this package | 15:09 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks | 15:09 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, ok thanks | 15:09 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, theme selection ui should be just a couple hours work, so will try to write a patch for that | 15:09 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, thanks | 15:10 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, that's the one we should try to land fore tomorrow evening if we can | 15:10 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, ok | 15:10 |
| pitti | good night everyone! | 15:11 |
| seb128 | 'night pitti | 15:13 |
| seb128 | pitti, will you still be around in 15 minutes? ;-) | 15:13 |
| seb128 | pitti, I will need an unity build nudge once that nux build is done | 15:13 |
| seb128 | pitti, if not don't worry I will find another buildd admin | 15:14 |
| rodrigo_ | good night pitti, and, for when you're back -> https://code.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/language-selector/show-in-new-g-c-c/+merge/72737 | 15:24 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, now I remember why I stopped looking at this, since I sent a mail to john lea about the ugliness of the theme selector in the background panel | 15:26 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, and about adding other options, like fonts, etc | 15:26 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, will try to ping him now | 15:27 |
| seb128 | ok, thanks | 15:27 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, well it seems like for this cycle we will not do a lot over that small tweak | 15:27 |
| seb128 | we can discuss it doing it better next cycle | 15:27 |
| seb128 | but yeah, feel free to discuss with him | 15:27 |
| rodrigo_ | I think we could just mimic the gnome-tweak-tool 'interface' settings UI | 15:28 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, btw do you know if the color thing in g-c-c should show in the ui somewhere? | 15:28 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, yes, there should be a 'color' panel, don't you get that? | 15:28 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, ignore me, I got the g-s-d update but not g-c-c yet | 15:29 |
| * rodrigo_ ignores and bands seb128 | 15:29 | |
| seb128 | lol | 15:29 |
| rodrigo_ | s/bands/bans :) | 15:30 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, oh, it failed to build | 15:30 |
| seb128 | stop ignoring me! | 15:30 |
| * rodrigo_ whistles | 15:30 | |
| seb128 | lacks a build-depends on libnotify-dev | 15:30 |
| seb128 | No package 'libnotify' found | 15:30 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/77951896/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-i386.gnome-control-center_1%3A3.1.5-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 15:30 |
| rodrigo_ | hmm | 15:30 |
| rodrigo_ | hmm, no package libnotify? | 15:31 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, you needs to build-depends on libnotify-dev I guess? | 15:31 |
| * rodrigo_ looks | 15:31 | |
| rodrigo_ | I thought it already was | 15:31 |
| rodrigo_ | it doesn't indeed | 15:33 |
| mpt | seb128, hi, you suggested that I turn accessibility off, but I don't see how to do that in Gnome 3 | 15:33 |
| * rodrigo_ fixes | 15:33 | |
| mpt | Everything's off in the "Universal Access" settings | 15:34 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-control-center/commit/?id=7962a25ecfa01b93087dd95c6e128381aeb8f2db | 15:34 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, that was added between 3.1.4 and 3.1.5 | 15:34 |
| seb128 | I guess you overlooked it while doing the update | 15:34 |
| rodrigo_ | yeah | 15:34 |
| dbarth | pitti: sorry again, can you bump the score of https://launchpad.net/~unity-team/+archive/compiz-testing/+builds?build_state=pending | 15:36 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, uploading a fix in a minute | 15:36 |
| seb128 | mpt, dconf-editor org.gnome.desktop.interface toolkit-accessibility | 15:36 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, thanks | 15:36 |
| seb128 | dbarth, I think he's off, try asking on #ubuntu-devel | 15:36 |
| dbarth | seb128: oh, who in particular as htose special powers? | 15:36 |
| seb128 | dbarth, doko | 15:37 |
| mpt | thanks seb128 :-) | 15:37 |
| seb128 | mpt, I'm not sure if we have an ui for it, doesn't seem so :-( | 15:38 |
| mpt | seb128, well in theory we shouldn't need one | 15:38 |
| seb128 | right | 15:38 |
| mvo | seb128: libsigc++ uploaded | 15:49 |
| seb128 | mvo, thanks \o/ | 15:49 |
| chrisccoulson | mercurial patch queues are really neat | 16:04 |
| mvo | is it just me or is the gtk3 spinner in pygi broken? http://paste.ubuntu.com/673933/ does not spin for me even though a debug print tells me that the active property is true | 16:10 |
| seb128 | mvo, it works here | 16:11 |
| seb128 | your example spins | 16:12 |
| mvo | seb128: hm, on my other box it does too | 16:12 |
| seb128 | mvo, do you run the ppa pygobject on the broken box? | 16:12 |
| mvo | seb128: I wonder if its pygi 2.90 ? that is the only difference between the two machines I can think of. or are you using 2.90 as well? | 16:13 |
| seb128 | mvo, no, that box I'm on is stock oneiric | 16:13 |
| seb128 | let me try on my ppa box | 16:13 |
| seb128 | mvo, no, it works on my ppa box as well | 16:14 |
| mvo | odd | 16:15 |
| mvo | but *shrug* if it works for the rest of the world … | 16:15 |
| nigelb | rickspencer3: Hey, around? Got time for a PM? | 16:57 |
| rickspencer3 | nigelb, sure, I always have time | 16:57 |
| rickspencer3 | 'sup? | 16:57 |
| === _LibertyZero is now known as LibertyZero | ||
| GunnarHj | seb128: Can you possibly sponsor https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/language-selector/type-error/+merge/72755 ? Seems to be a critical thing, judging from incoming bug reports... | 17:07 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, can do, it's not a real issue it seems but apport makes those noisy | 17:10 |
| seb128 | i.e it will trigger each time somebody run into it and the clicks,bug reports add | 17:10 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: But doesn't it cause crashes? | 17:11 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, well I've not checked the code, often in python you get an exception but you program can keep running | 17:11 |
| seb128 | well anyway let's get the fix in | 17:12 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Thanks! | 17:12 |
| seb128 | thank you for working on it! | 17:12 |
| dobey | pitti: are you still here? | 17:52 |
| mdeslaur | seb128, chrisccoulson: just uploaded gnome-screensaver that changes appearance conditionally on Unity | 17:52 |
| chrisccoulson | mdeslaur, thanks | 18:00 |
| chrisccoulson | wooh, i've just added a nearly 300kB distro patch to thunderbird | 18:01 |
| chrisccoulson | that's crazy ;) | 18:01 |
| chrisccoulson | most of that is svg icons though | 18:01 |
| ogra_ | hmm, why do i have window frames in maximited windows | 18:05 |
| chrisccoulson | ogra_, because compiz loves you | 18:06 |
| ogra_ | chrisccoulson, 2d :) | 18:06 |
| chrisccoulson | ogra_, it's still a compiz bug | 18:06 |
| ogra_ | seems the default for the gconf key changed | 18:06 |
| chrisccoulson | ;) | 18:07 |
| ogra_ | odd | 18:07 |
| ricotz | mterry, hello | 18:10 |
| ricotz | mterry, could you take a look at http://people.ubuntu.com/~ricotz/clutter/ -- http://people.ubuntu.com/~ricotz/clutter/clutter-1.0_1.7.10-1~ubuntu2_source.changes | 18:11 |
| mterry | ricotz, small detail, but shouldn't the version be -2~ubuntu1? | 18:16 |
| ricotz | mterry, i know, clutter isnt uploaded yet, so perhaps it will still get -1 as next version, just wanted to make it syncable in any case | 18:18 |
| mterry | ricotz, k, let me sponsor here | 18:19 |
| ricotz | mterry, thanks, i hope the symbols will match now | 18:19 |
| ricotz | i cant testbuild it :\ | 18:20 |
| ricotz | mterry, use the changes file or rebuild with -v1.7.10-1 | 18:20 |
| mterry | ricotz, can't testbuild? you mean on armel? | 18:21 |
| ricotz | yes, on armel | 18:21 |
| mterry | ricotz, the patch for SONAMEs seems a lot simpler than the patch in the bug it points to. This has been tested? (by Ricardo?) | 18:26 |
| * mterry also doesn't have an armel machine | 18:26 | |
| ricotz | mterry, i dropped this patch and readded it again :( | 18:27 |
| ricotz | so it was there before | 18:27 |
| mterry | k | 18:28 |
| mterry | ricotz, pushed. and thanks for the reminder about the .changes; I do tend to forget about that | 18:30 |
| ricotz | mterry, thanks :) | 18:30 |
| mterry | Is anyone here familiar with trapping TERM signals? | 18:33 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, thanks for the gnome-screensaver work | 19:31 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: np | 19:34 |
| tkamppeter | RAOF, hi | 19:53 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, it's like 6am for him, he's probably sleeping | 19:55 |
| seb128 | mterry, did you screw your cowboy upload? ;-) | 19:56 |
| seb128 | (it's not showing up on the changes list) | 19:57 |
| mterry | seb128, it wouldn't be a cowboy upload if I didn't screw it up. I got the accept email | 19:58 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 19:59 |
| tkamppeter | Sweetshark, hi | 20:01 |
| mterry | seb128, I think oneiric-changes is just being crazy. Launchpad shows it as uploaded | 20:02 |
| seb128 | mterry, right, I see, you broked oneiric-changes and don't want to admit it! | 20:03 |
| mterry | seb128, heh | 20:04 |
| seb128 | -d | 20:04 |
| seb128 | mterry, but yeah, it's showing on launchpad so seems all good ;-) | 20:04 |
| seb128 | hum | 20:06 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, thanks for the totem update! | 20:06 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, what happened the gnome-contacts mir bug? ;-) | 20:06 |
| seb128 | mterry, btw do you feel like you have enough things you can pick on to keep busy or are you looking for bug lists, or things that need to get done? | 20:07 |
| kenvandine | sorry... forgot :) | 20:07 |
| * kenvandine is racing for UIF | 20:07 | |
| kenvandine | :) | 20:07 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, the beta freeze is tomorrow, do you think you could write it today? | 20:07 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 20:07 |
| mterry | seb128, at this point, I'm just picking up lightdm/deja-dup stuff that I know I can fix, then looking at the QA report for extra stuff | 20:07 |
| kenvandine | i will | 20:07 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, thanks | 20:08 |
| kenvandine | np | 20:08 |
| mterry | seb128, did that lightdm live cd issue get fixed? | 20:08 |
| seb128 | mterry, not that I know of no | 20:09 |
| seb128 | mterry, oh, your upload is showing up on the list now ;-) | 20:09 |
| mterry | seb128, that seems like a beta blocker... I'll look a bit | 20:09 |
| seb128 | mterry, ok, yeah the qa page "oneiric" category is probably a good list of "need to be fixed" bugs | 20:09 |
| seb128 | mterry, indeed, thanks | 20:10 |
| === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away | ||
| GunnarHj | rodrigo_: Still there? | 21:20 |
| kenvandine | seb128, gnome-contacts MIR bug 833383 | 21:30 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 833383 in gnome-contacts "[MIR] gnome-contacts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/833383 | 21:30 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, thanks | 21:31 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: I had a look at that greyed out options in l-s that you mentioned before. I have no idea on when or why it happened. Think it's more a pitti thing to look into. | 21:34 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, ok | 21:34 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, thanks for having a look anyway, you can confirm the bug then? | 21:35 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Indeed I can. | 21:35 |
| seb128 | ok, great | 21:35 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, thanks gnome-settings-daemon for re-arranging my displays whilst I was away :/ | 21:36 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Btw, I can add that I installed an older version (0.37), and the problem is present there as well. | 21:38 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, ok | 21:39 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, I've assigned you bug #829436 | 21:39 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 829436 in geoclue "geoclue version 0.12.0-1ubuntu9 failed to build in oneiric" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/829436 | 21:39 |
| seb128 | trying to dispatch a bit ftbfs bugs | 21:39 |
| kenvandine | good times :) | 21:40 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, it's to test but I think http://cgit.freedesktop.org/geoclue/commit/?id=90669619d1d621080ef00dcb8db1c3d206ee0bfe might be enough to fix the issue | 21:40 |
| seb128 | dunno who decided to fail builds on unused variables | 21:40 |
| kenvandine | seb128, looks like it | 21:40 |
| seb128 | seems like a stupid thing to break builds on | 21:41 |
| kenvandine | yeah... kind of painful | 21:41 |
| kenvandine | bamf is out of control on those | 21:41 |
| seb128 | like ok it's non optimal but it's not likely to create bugs | 21:41 |
| kenvandine | very unlikely | 21:41 |
| cyphermox | seb128: re ftbs, I'm going to look at n-m-pptp, and was already working on trying to fix indicator-network so that it at least builds and pretends to work | 21:41 |
| kenvandine | and nobody wants to fix 100 or so of those errors in bamf | 21:41 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, thanks | 21:42 |
| cyphermox | I'll pick at others once done :) | 21:42 |
| seb128 | bug #833172 | 21:42 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 833172 in xapian-core "[FFE] CJK support" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/833172 | 21:42 |
| seb128 | is somebody who is not over his work day wanting to look at that and get it uploaded before his end of day? | 21:43 |
| seb128 | it's the cjk patch for xapian from dx | 21:43 |
| seb128 | it's a backport of 2 upstream commits to their svn which will be in the next stable update and got a ffe | 21:43 |
| seb128 | so it's basically "checking that it applies, build, and that unity and i.e synaptic still work" | 21:44 |
| cyphermox | fun | 21:44 |
| cyphermox | unity as in the app list of installable apps? | 21:44 |
| seb128 | didrocks put an earlier version in the ubuntu-desktop ppa and dx and oem has been testing those patches | 21:44 |
| seb128 | so they should be ok | 21:44 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, yes, like open the application lens, type a name and check that it still list things | 21:45 |
| cyphermox | hm, I wonder if this fixes my entering deadkeys in the search | 21:45 |
| seb128 | njpatel is working on the unity side | 21:49 |
| cyphermox | ok. I need to run now (lift is here) but I can upload in an hour or so if nobody does it before | 21:50 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, it's likely not going to be in your upload set | 21:52 |
| seb128 | but if you can do an update ask RAOF or whoever is on work shift to sponsor it if you can | 21:52 |
| seb128 | otherwise we will pick it up tomorrow morning european time | 21:52 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, thanks ;-) | 21:52 |
| cyphermox | alright | 21:52 |
| seb128 | 'night | 21:56 |
| RAOF | Morning cyphermox :) | 22:01 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, wow. it's nice when people announce API breaks, so I can fix my extension before it actually happens - http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.platform/browse_thread/thread/13d0295f867d845a# | 22:03 |
| chrisccoulson | :) | 22:03 |
| chrisccoulson | it's not often that happens | 22:03 |
| ricotz | jbicha, hi | 22:24 |
| ricotz | i think it isnt really usefull doing merge proposes against full-source branches without adding some debdiff to make a review simpler | 22:27 |
| ricotz | i mean a diff of debian/* only | 22:28 |
| jbicha | ricotz: ok, I'll add a debian/ diff | 22:29 |
| jbicha | that makes sense as the other stuff isn't useful | 22:30 |
| ricotz | exactly ;) | 22:30 |
| ricotz | jbicha, try to clean up the build-deps like dropping the gir1.2-* build-deps which are pulled by their -dev package | 22:32 |
| jbicha | hmm, actually there isn't a place to upload files in the merge proposal, I could just paste it in or pastebin it | 22:32 |
| ricotz | and add gir1.2-soup-2.4 to gnome-shell deps | 22:33 |
| ricotz | jbicha, yeah, or put a diff in your people space and link to it | 22:34 |
| ricotz | jbicha, and of course a merge with conflicts isnt good either | 22:37 |
| ricotz | 23568 lines (+7833/-6327) 95 files modified (has conflicts) | 22:38 |
| ricotz | Text conflict in debian/changelog | 22:38 |
| jbicha | ricotz: ok, I'll work on cleaning this up | 22:39 |
| ricotz | jbicha, while there is no real branch for gnome-shell, you probably want to use a bug adding a package files and a debian-only-diff to it | 22:40 |
| cyphermox | Morning RAOF | 22:44 |
| jbicha | ricotz: what do you mean by adding a package files? | 22:44 |
| jbicha | I should just open a new bug requesting the new gnome-shell version, right? | 22:44 |
| ricotz | jbicha, i mean *.dsc diff.gz and tarball | 22:45 |
| ricotz | jbicha, yes, and subscribe ubuntu-sponsors | 22:46 |
| ricotz | jbicha, maybe the best to ping bigon before he uploads it first :P | 22:47 |
| jbicha | ricotz: well if I do a merge proposal I don't need the *.dsc, diff.gz or tarball, just the debian/ diff, right? | 22:47 |
| jbicha | ricotz: do you mean bigon's uploading to Debian or to Ubuntu? | 22:48 |
| ricotz | jbicha, yeah, probably, the tarball can be downloaded easily while sponsoring | 22:48 |
| ricotz | to ubuntu like he did with mutter | 22:48 |
| ricotz | jbicha, bye | 23:00 |
| chrisccoulson | w00t, new thunderbird theme coming now! | 23:20 |
| jasoncwarner_ | chrisccoulson: awesome! | 23:25 |
| jasoncwarner_ | tell me when I should push enter on my keyboard to get it ;) | 23:25 |
| chrisccoulson | jasoncwarner_, i'm just uploading it now | 23:25 |
| chrisccoulson | the patches to implement it are absolutely huge | 23:26 |
| * jasoncwarner_ notes that chrisccoulson should make internets faster so I can get it now...hate waiting | 23:26 | |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 23:26 |
| chrisccoulson | it takes 2 hours to build as well ;) | 23:26 |
| * jasoncwarner_ notes that...and keeps hitting enter anyway ;) | 23:32 | |
| chrisccoulson | i definitely need a faster internet connection | 23:33 |
| chrisccoulson | 2/3 uploaded now ;) | 23:33 |
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