[00:02] <ryaxnb_> lies, os x works a little under virtualbox, especially hackintosh os x
[00:03] <ryaxnb_> just not very well
[00:04] <sn9> must be a recent development, then
[01:10] <MArkDude> aaditya: sent invite for music on Sat night
[01:10] <aaditya> MArkDude: got it
[01:11] <MArkDude> It's one of the events Arielle is a promoter for
[01:11] <MArkDude> After DVLUG- Stacy will be doing a show in WC- at redhouse
[01:12] <MArkDude> Still have not seen Bassy Stacy live
[01:12] <aaditya> interesting!
[01:12] <MArkDude> She is the chick from the pics I took
[01:12] <MArkDude> Oh- did I put you on circle so you could see comic stuff?
[01:13] <MArkDude> lemme check
[01:14] <MArkDude> You were on + list but not FB
[01:14] <MArkDude> you are now on both
[01:15] <MArkDude> https://plus.google.com/105095769731159704550/posts/ZkyTq7WRTbn
[01:15] <MArkDude> Here is the post, it only has one pic of newly found zombie girl
[01:16] <MArkDude> Anyone else on _ intersted in a dark comic- let me know- I can put you in circle
[01:16] <MArkDude> Undead love between vampire and zombie girl
[01:18] <aaditya> I can see it on G+. Does that mean I'm on the list?
[01:25] <MArkDude> You are sir
[01:25] <MArkDude> Story is pretty dark is it not
[01:25] <MArkDude> Some good humor also
[01:26] <MArkDude> Have a fair amount of women involved in doing it- I want to avoid how women are usually cardboard in comics
[01:29] <MArkDude> Planning on doing 2 or 3 more shoots
[01:29] <MArkDude> I have a pro person with makeup vomunteering their time
[01:30] <MArkDude> in exchange for her using the pics
[01:40] <MArkDude> Hmmm, you are doing the reaction people do when they get shoked a bit aaditya
[01:41] <aaditya> MArkDude: I am indeed shocked at all this goring and creepiness.
[01:42] <aaditya> How do you even think of such shady stuff? :P
[01:42] <MArkDude> Well I said dark
[01:42] <philipballew> what part of ubuntu controls restarting the system? the kernel?
[01:42] <MArkDude> Imagine being undead
[01:42] <MArkDude> and knowing you would outlive all your loved ones
[01:43] <MArkDude> Well I blame my 1st love from highschool on much of this
[01:43] <MArkDude> Zombie girl is modeleld after her
[01:43] <MArkDude> I have plenty of help also
[01:43] <MArkDude> This is being crowdsourced
[01:44] <akk> philipballew: "controls restarting" is a pretty general phrase. What aspect of restarting?
[01:44] <MArkDude> I actually got a volunteer to take a pic of a mouse skull they are doing taxidermy with
[01:44] <MArkDude> No dont send it to me- just a pic is fine
[01:44] <pleia2> kernel, acpi, depends on what you're doing
[01:45] <MArkDude> My last ex was a bit dark also.
[01:45] <philipballew> akk, well when i click restart or type sudo restart my desktop hangs
[01:45] <MArkDude> Nomally I like girls a bit geekier
[01:45] <MArkDude> anyway- good some of the other details are not in yet
[01:45] <aaditya> MArkDude: I like the outline so far.
[01:46] <akk> philipballew: Could be the kernel freezing, could be X, could be the desktop (but that's less likely).
[01:46] <MArkDude> Well I want to over do the story
[01:46] <pleia2> or a service taking forever to stop (depends on the "freeze" though)
[01:46] <MArkDude> And pic the parts that will work best and leave rest
[01:46] <pleia2> this sometimes happens for me when connected to network filesystems, takes ages to shut down
[01:46] <philipballew> akk, i dropped to a tty and it still did it
[01:47] <akk> If ctrl-alt-F2 takes you to a different console then it's something higher level than X or the kernel; if that doesn't work and neither does ctrl-alt-del then it's almost certainly either X or kenrel.
[01:47] <akk> (more likely X)
[01:47] <MArkDude> https://www.facebook.com/notes/mark-terranova/undead-love/10150283422284130 FB post
[01:48] <philipballew> akk, well if i drop to a tty and it still does it. that elimanates the posibility of it being x right?
[01:48] <akk> Then probably the kernel. Do the keyboard LEDs (caps lock, num lock etc.) flash? That would mean a kernel panic.
[01:48] <akk> And when you say "drop to a tty" you mean quit X entirely? Or leave X running, but then go to another console and type reboot?
[01:49] <MArkDude> So at one point she cuts her heart out to stop how her heart feels. Zombie girl comes up and starts teasing her. And points out that her skill to be able to survive would be AWESOME- during Aztec times
[01:49] <philipballew> i press ctrl + alt + f1
[01:49] <MArkDude> She would have been leader after surviving that
[01:49] <MArkDude> black humor I tell ya
[01:49] <akk> X is still running, then, so it's still possible that it's having trouble killing it, but that does make it more likely the kenrel.
[01:50] <akk> Freezes as in keys don't echo, hitting return doesn't do anything etc?
[01:50] <philipballew> no. hiting keys does nothing at all akk
[01:52] <akk> Most likely kernel, then. Some buggy driver that doesn't handle some piece of hardware on your system.
[01:53] <philipballew> i could remove unnessery hardware maybe
[01:53] <philipballew> i have pci devices that dont work still inside the desktop
[01:53] <akk> Or maybe try rmmoding lots of modules one by one, see if any of them causes a problem.
[01:53] <philipballew> the desktop does still shutdown just fine
[01:54] <akk> You can run poweroff and it works, but reboot doesn't?
[01:54] <philipballew> i type sudo shutdown -h now and it works great but sudo reboot doesnt
[01:55] <akk> Weird!
[01:56] <philipballew> seriously! and annoying!!! it reboots in 10.04 but not 10.10 or 11.04
[01:56] <nhaines> There's no standard way to halt the system on x86.
[01:57] <philipballew> 32 bit indeed
[01:57] <nhaines> I read an interesting article about that on Planet earlier this month, I think.
[01:57] <philipballew> akk, maybe its worth filing a bug?
[01:58] <akk> Isn't there an ACPI state, or something like that?
[01:58] <nhaines> akk: wouldn't that be nice? :)
[01:58] <akk> philipballew: It's definitely worth filing, but IME it probably won't get any attention since it's hardware specific and won't be reproducible for other people.
[02:01] <philipballew> akk, i might remove "weird, odd pci componets" and see if that works first
[02:01] <akk> philipballew: d says he's seen this -- "It's usually a bug in the BIOS, and it's usually fixable" -- maybe by setting a boot-time kernel parameter.
[02:02] <philipballew> how would i do that?
[02:02] <akk> Have you googled on your computer model (or other hardware-specific stuff)? boot-time params like that are usually FM (friggin' magic)
[02:02] <akk> so finding them isn't at all obvious, but often someone else has figured it out and it shows up in a search.
[02:03] <philipballew> what kinda stuff can i do by finding this :)
[02:03] <akk> What's the hardware?
[02:04] <philipballew> emachine t6420
[02:10] <MarkDude> aaditya: what about Kali- and the necklace of skulls? As well as skirt of limbs?
[02:11] <aaditya> MarkDude: scary stuff, yes.
[02:11] <aaditya> can tie into the story nicely. She's the symbol of destruction of the evil.
[02:12] <MarkDude> My sister almost named my niece Cali
[02:12] <MarkDude> I gave her link to Kali- no more mention
[02:13] <MarkDude> Well for that to work- I would need to include at least one Indian
[02:13] <MarkDude> Know of any?
[02:13] <MarkDude> Rumor has it there are a few in the Valley
[02:13] <MarkDude> XD
[02:14] <MarkDude> Diversity at moment now is Jewish and white, so diversity would rock
[02:17] <philipballew> akk, so what would you say i google?
[02:19] <akk> dunno -- I'd start with something like emachines t6420 reboot linux and adjust from there (might have to drop the i6420 and see if it's a general emachines problem).
[02:19] <akk> maybe throw in freeze or hang
[02:20] <akk> googling is an art and you often have to try lots of terms
[02:21] <philipballew> i like the advanced search function
[02:22] <philipballew> it helps sometimes
[03:14] <MarkDude> pleia2:  you around? Or are cats holding you down?
[03:38] <bkerensa> too many cats
[03:39] <grantbow> her tweet stream shows lolcats, no pirate cats
[03:44] <MarkDude> One of her cats acts like a a pirate
[03:44] <MarkDude> What about you bkerensa - interested in a dark comic?
[03:45]  * bkerensa doesnt read comics :P
[03:45] <MarkDude> Fair enough
[03:45] <MarkDude> grantbow: you could translate it swahili on your trip
[03:48] <grantbow> linuxpicnic.org!
[04:03] <akk> Haha, just seen on facebook: "5.9? That's what us Californians use to stir our coffee with."
[04:49] <MarkDude> grantbow: say hello
[04:50] <MarkDude> Remeber ,me, I am going to Africa (to save the world by teaching) and teachimng use of technology (in my MOther Teresa like fashion)
[04:50] <MarkDude> You nee not include parenthetical bits
[05:24] <pleia2> MarkDude: was out being a tourist
[05:26] <MarkDude> I have 2 questions
[05:26] <MarkDude> Do you like dark humor- want to see my comic outline- it is just starting
[05:26] <MarkDude> the other is check your PM
[05:29] <pleia2> MarkDude: not really into comics, sorry
[05:31] <iheartubuntu>  i know weird. elenin was in alignment today and there was the quake on the east coast. coincidence? the next elenin alignment is going to be on september 6th
[05:31]  * iheartubuntu drinks some beer
[17:04] <grantbow> felt that quake. usgs map isn't updated yet
[17:04] <grantbow> coffee stirer
[17:04] <pleia2> aw, nothing here
[17:05] <akk> Didn't feel it here.
[17:05] <grantbow> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqscanv/FaultMaps/122-38.html will update in a few minutes
[17:05] <akk> ooh, is the hayward finally going?
[17:06] <pleia2> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/Quakes/nc71625585.php ?
[17:08] <grantbow> probably
[17:09] <grantbow> pleia2 did you get that from a list? map isn't showing that one yet
[17:09] <akk> The one grantbow pasted says 9:42 am but the color is for "last day", not "last hour" *confused*
[17:09] <pleia2> grantbow: I clicked on the us map http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/ then kept clicking toward the red thing
[17:10] <pleia2> 3 clicks in it gets you to the event page
[17:10] <grantbow> so recent gets update before the one I linked. makes sense.
[17:10] <akk> USGS didn't send me any notifications. I must have some address registered with them that I didn't move to the new ISP.
[17:11] <grantbow> akk, the blue ones were last night.
[17:14] <grantbow> dented/tweeted as K6CBK, my second ID I just started
[20:54] <nhaines> YokoZar: Great blog post!  I liked it.  Sorry about the interview though....
[20:55] <YokoZar> nhaines: I hadn't even asked for a job, heh
[20:56] <nhaines> YokoZar: ninja interview!
[20:56] <YokoZar> nhaines: yeah pretty much
[20:57] <nhaines> YokoZar: well, at least you know you won't fall for that again, hehe.
[20:57] <pleia2> I've had a couple of those, I always manage to botch them before I realize what's going on
[20:58] <pleia2> it's annoying
[20:58] <YokoZar> nhaines: pleia2: I think the secret is to not answer calls from strangers unless you're awake
[20:58] <nhaines> haha
[20:58] <pleia2> indeed!
[20:58] <pleia2> but my problem is confidence, I build it all up for interviews but not casual conversation
[20:59] <pleia2> so I think I'm having a casual conversation and being all modest... doh!
[20:59] <YokoZar> It's a trap!
[21:01] <nhaines> It took a while to realize that LUGs and speaking deals were Serious Business even if I *was* just doing them because I liked to.  :)
[21:01] <pleia2> yeah, I always have my pro, non-shy hat on at those now
[21:02] <pleia2> and I learned that when an acquaintance asks you out to lunch you need to drink confidence juice first
[21:02] <pleia2> may be nothing, but just in case..!
[21:02] <YokoZar> hahaha
[21:03] <YokoZar> pleia2: I know you didn't intend it that way but "confidence juice" reads an awful lot like "profuse amounts of alcohol"
[21:03] <pleia2> hahaha
[21:03] <nhaines> hahaha
[21:03] <pleia2> well, that works too
[21:04] <YokoZar> I wouldn't know
[21:04] <pleia2> stops me from being so shy anyway
[21:04] <nhaines> Went bowling a couple of months ago and got some Jameson from the bar.  When my coworkers asked what I was drinking I told them and said "It tastes like courage."
[21:04] <pleia2> hehe
[21:04] <YokoZar> The other surprise job interview is all these parties I've been invited to in Silicon Valley lately.  Everyone's got a startup...
[21:04] <nhaines> pleia2: It makes me sing better too.
[21:05] <YokoZar> nhaines: Disagree.  It makes you sing, period.
[21:05] <nhaines> YokoZar: I've always thought I sounded better.  So that's proof!  ;)
[21:05] <YokoZar> Man one of my least favorite things is playing Rock Band with drunk people...
[21:05] <pleia2> lol
[21:09] <nhaines> Yay, I'm testing U1 Files 1.0.3 for Android.  :)
[22:48] <philipballew> steve jobs just resigned. the fate of apple will now be un-determined.
[22:50] <sn9> uncertainty is awesome
[22:54] <ryaxnb> i think apple will be ok
[23:33] <MArkDude> We all kniw that Skynet will eventually take control of Apple - using technilogy from the Goog of course