| sakhi | Morning | 06:01 |
|---|---|---|
| superfly | hiya sakhi | 06:11 |
| Kilos | morning superfly and others | 06:18 |
| superfly | morning Kilos | 06:18 |
| Kilos | morning maiatoday pascal` | 06:46 |
| Kilos | hi morgs | 07:19 |
| morgs | hi Kilos | 07:19 |
| morgs | Morning Zabunteros! | 07:19 |
| Kilos | lol they still sleeping or lurking | 07:21 |
| superfly | I'm not sleeping... I'm usually awake before everyone else | 07:35 |
| * morgs plays with ibid | 07:38 | |
| superfly | morgs: I have an ibid bot running in a couple of channels - I even wrote a simple launchpad plugin to pull bug report details off LP | 07:51 |
| morgs | superfly: cool - ibid looks much easier to get up and running than knab which I used about 3 years ago | 07:52 |
| morgs | github has an irc bot which announces commits pushed to a repo - but it's not very friendly :) | 07:53 |
| superfly | yeah, I wanna add that ability to my launchpad plugin | 07:54 |
| marcog | tumbleweed: ping on global jam poster printing | 08:01 |
| nuvolari | anyone want my organs? | 09:32 |
| superfly | nuvolari: don't you want them? I'd imagine at least a few are pretty important in keeping you alive. | 09:35 |
| Kilos | hee hee | 09:38 |
| * superfly pulls his hair out at certain people on the mailing list | 09:39 | |
| nuvolari | at this stage I don't mind leaving earth :-/ | 09:40 |
| Kilos | whats up nuvolari you dont sound happy | 09:46 |
| nuvolari | ek is nie oom Kilos | 09:54 |
| Kilos | wat is fout seun | 09:54 |
| tumbleweed | marcog: tomorrow's a good time for me to do it | 10:12 |
| tumbleweed | superfly: yeah, don't know why I haven't written a launchpad plugin for ibid yet. We *use* launchpad for bugs, and I know launchpadlib backwards... :/ | 10:12 |
| tumbleweed | superfly: so when are we going to see yours? | 10:12 |
| superfly | hrm, all I was doing was pulling stuff off the web page | 10:12 |
| * superfly should investigate launchpadlib | 10:13 | |
| marcog | tumbleweed: kk | 10:13 |
| tumbleweed | if you want to pull stuff from web pages, there's a way to get a rfc822 dump from a bug | 10:13 |
| superfly | tumbleweed: I just use BeautifulSoup | 10:13 |
| tumbleweed | add +text to the end of the URL | 10:13 |
| tumbleweed | seriously though, launchpadlib will do everything you want (but +text may be faster) | 10:14 |
| tumbleweed | scraping is prone to problems | 10:14 |
| superfly | tumbleweed: this is what I've done: http://pastebin.com/eEx1SRCk | 11:19 |
| nuvolari | Kilos: ag werk oom, het net te veel | 11:22 |
| nuvolari | kan nie by alles uitkom nie | 11:22 |
| Kilos | eish | 11:22 |
| Kilos | se hulle moet extra hulp kry of vir jou n appie gee | 11:23 |
| nuvolari | oom, ons soek ons blou vir developers, maar daar is bitter min wat die interview deurmaak | 11:38 |
| nuvolari | *interview + toets | 11:38 |
| Kilos | eish | 11:48 |
| Kilos | als java seun? | 11:48 |
| nuvolari | jip | 11:49 |
| nuvolari | en die wat ons wel kan kry kom kan joburg af en soek joburg salarisse | 11:49 |
| Kilos | ja dis die probleem in durbs. hulle betaal nog al die jare maar sleg met vergelyking met hier bo | 11:51 |
| Kilos | they beleive that the sea, beach and bikini girls make up for poor salaries | 11:52 |
| nuvolari | Kilos: well, it does :P | 11:52 |
| Kilos | hjehe | 11:52 |
| Kilos | hehe okk | 11:52 |
| Kilos | grrr ook | 11:53 |
| Kilos | afternoon nlsthzn welcome to ubuntu-za | 14:35 |
| nlsthzn | Why thank you Kilos my good man... I am very happy to be here | 14:38 |
| Kilos | hee hyee | 14:38 |
| Kilos | you so funny at times | 14:38 |
| nlsthzn | :p | 14:40 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | hello? | 15:01 |
| nuvolari | hello d3s3rtdw3ll3r | 15:03 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | not a lot going on here | 15:05 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | nuvolari: howzit from Dubai | 15:06 |
| Kilos | d3s3rtdw3ll3r, hiya | 15:06 |
| Kilos | mqassive nick hey | 15:06 |
| Kilos | massive | 15:06 |
| Kilos | thank heavens for tab keys | 15:07 |
| nlsthzn | :) | 15:11 |
| Kilos | you got a neighbour nlsthzn | 15:12 |
| nlsthzn | Yup... | 15:12 |
| nlsthzn | Only about 350-400km away... | 15:12 |
| Kilos | yeah next door | 15:12 |
| Kilos | hehe | 15:12 |
| Kilos | d3s3rtdw3ll3r, tell us a bit about yourself | 15:13 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | been out of saffaland for about 10 years now, 6 of which in Dubai | 15:15 |
| Kilos | what do you do? | 15:16 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | been digging ubuntu till unity but am gonna give it another go | 15:16 |
| Kilos | and hopefully you are using ubuntu | 15:16 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | IT consultant | 15:16 |
| Kilos | lol i havent got to unity yet | 15:16 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | at mo Im using crunchbang and debian | 15:17 |
| Kilos | maverick rocks for me | 15:17 |
| Kilos | aha | 15:17 |
| Kilos | welcome to ubuntu-za | 15:17 |
| Kilos | hope this isnt a one time visit | 15:17 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | just finished dl of 10.04, gonna see if the gma500 support is any better | 15:17 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | Kilos: shot ma ou | 15:18 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | sorry 11.04 | 15:18 |
| Kilos | you must be kinda tired from thinking up a nick like that hey? | 15:20 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | had the oscillating oseric tentacle running on a 1.6 duo lappie and found it to be a resource hog | 15:20 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | or maybe the vm's were killing it ;) | 15:21 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | Kilos: prolly a hungover moment | 15:22 |
| Kilos | i saw some stuff about pcs going slow at launchpad i think it was but there were ways to fix it so it was even faster | 15:22 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:22 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | Kilos: well the lappie was running since 8 or 7 with numerous upgrades etc, after many a year it finally started behaving buggy, much like a winslow machine after a week | 15:23 |
| nlsthzn | Guarenteed that a VM will be slow and cumbersome VS a naitive install... | 15:23 |
| Kilos | it has been very quiet here this year except when someone comes online for help then one of the experts jumps in | 15:23 |
| Kilos | lol you also sound like a winsucks fan | 15:24 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | nlsthzn: yea I use a minimal deb bigmem install for my production vm's | 15:24 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | of cors my zimbra mail servers run good ol ubuntu, uptime of 400 odd days now | 15:25 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | Kilos: yea not a fan of their business model | 15:26 |
| Kilos | lol i hate them | 15:27 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | specially now, they suing the pants off everyone now | 15:27 |
| Kilos | only good for ms games | 15:27 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | yea if only my ps3 could use the kb and mouse for fps | 15:28 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | so hows the OSS front in Saffaland? | 15:28 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | Dubai is verrry MS centric | 15:29 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | a bit in the dark ages | 15:29 |
| nlsthzn | the world is MS centric (except for a lot of America that is Mac crazy) | 15:30 |
| Kilos | most of the world is. billy got a good grip | 15:30 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | on the desktop front anyway | 15:30 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | I think linux has marketshare on the web servers | 15:30 |
| Kilos | seems to me ubuntu is mainly growing by word of mouth | 15:30 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | now mobile devices ala android | 15:31 |
| Kilos | there are too many none IT peeps that ask whats linux or ubuntu and are too scared to try it | 15:31 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | I though ZA would be stock full of linux boxes | 15:31 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | thats MS PR for you | 15:32 |
| Kilos | i think you still battle to buy a pc here without ms installed | 15:32 |
| Kilos | here and there are one or two suppliers | 15:32 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | yea exactly, its the only way they can keep linux at bay | 15:32 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | thats why I build my own boxes | 15:33 |
| Kilos | and they had a good promotion with schools for support etc which they just withdrew once everyone is involved | 15:33 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | but ZA is full o resourceful ppl I thought the OSS front would be cooking | 15:33 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | Kilos: who Canonical or MS? | 15:34 |
| Kilos | ms | 15:34 |
| Kilos | lots of schools are now looking for alternatives | 15:34 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | yea Ive had a few schools as clients had to fight tooth and nail to put services on linux | 15:34 |
| Kilos | we had a chat about it a week or two ago | 15:35 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | yea? | 15:35 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | Ill look it up | 15:35 |
| Kilos | linux is too daunting for them looks like so mac gonna be happy here too | 15:35 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | errr I dunno, theyre just marketing and bling, no substance, why its so popular, ppl are suckers | 15:36 |
| Kilos | you will have to change the mindset of teachers that only know ms | 15:36 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | thing is, theyre teaching ICT not MS | 15:36 |
| Kilos | marketing counts lots to the normal man on the street | 15:37 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | its in their interest to broaden the exp of the students | 15:37 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | theyre just conditioning students to become future ms users | 15:37 |
| Kilos | yes but take an oldish teacher and give him an ubuntu cd and tell him to go install for his class and listen to the complaints | 15:38 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | yea, well he needs a few hours to familiarize himself, I did manage to convert a few teachers by installing on their personal machines | 15:39 |
| Kilos | but i also read there are whole cities in germany that have gone ubuntu, so there's hope for us yet | 15:39 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | yea well they tend to be more forward thinking, about 10 years ahead of MENA | 15:39 |
| Kilos | thats the big thing to have guys able to actually go and demo at schools | 15:39 |
| Kilos | but the games issue is in ms's favour | 15:40 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | more of a casual gamer myself, might be worth looking at seeing how bits run in Wine | 15:41 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | ISnt Steam releasing a linux client? | 15:41 |
| Kilos | dunno | 15:42 |
| Kilos | i tried aoe3 on wine and was very slow | 15:42 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Steam_under_Linux#Ubuntu | 15:43 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | yea only in WINE | 15:43 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | how'd the game run natively on the kit? | 15:43 |
| superfly | d3s3rtdw3ll3r: Phorix made noise about it, but Steam's official position is still "no" | 15:43 |
| Kilos | yeah it dont work lekker | 15:43 |
| superfly | d3s3rtdw3ll3r: rather look at supporting indie gamers who have Linux versions of their games | 15:44 |
| superfly | d3s3rtdw3ll3r: have you heard of the Humble Indie Bundle? | 15:44 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | superfly: yea Im for that | 15:44 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | http://www.geek.com/articles/games/linux-users-pay-3x-that-of-windows-users-for-humble-indie-bundle-3-2011082/ | 15:45 |
| superfly | yep | 15:45 |
| * superfly buys it every time | 15:45 | |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | seems a worthy cause | 15:46 |
| * nlsthzn also got all the games now (except for the frozen bundle)... now if only he could get some time to pay them :) | 15:46 | |
| Kilos | lol | 15:46 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | lol I hears ya | 15:47 |
| superfly | Atom Zombie Smasher was surprisingly addictive | 15:47 |
| nlsthzn | true... I played like one round and was annoyed I had to go to bed :p | 15:47 |
| nlsthzn | love the story line | 15:47 |
| d3s3rtdw3ll3r | Listen guys I gotta shoot, wife's bellowing, l8ers | 15:48 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:49 |
| nuvolari | ok, home time | 16:09 |
| * nuvolari dies | 16:09 | |
| Kilos | mooi loop seun | 16:09 |
| nuvolari | heh, dankie oom | 16:09 |
| nuvolari | sal probeer | 16:09 |
| ludoza | Anybody want to hear a joke? | 20:23 |
| Kilos | go for it ludoza | 20:23 |
| ludoza | Most companies uses a 10 year old operating system, when they can download the latest and greatest for free. | 20:24 |
| Kilos | is there more | 20:25 |
| ludoza | no | 20:25 |
| ludoza | sorry not so good joke? | 20:25 |
| Kilos | i was just looking at a registry cleaner for win me | 20:25 |
| Kilos | the latest has a buy option and 30 trial period | 20:26 |
| Kilos | the older ones are free | 20:26 |
| nlsthzn | which OS is the greatest... I missed that part... | 20:27 |
| Kilos | looks like thats how they work hey | 20:27 |
| Kilos | well duh | 20:28 |
| ludoza | nlsthzn minix 3, monolic kernels is so for the 80' | 20:28 |
| nlsthzn | everybody knows hurd is where it's at... ;) | 20:33 |
| ludoza | yip nlsthzn don't be just another fish in the school join hurd! | 20:34 |
| nlsthzn | my only issue is that the only way to do that is to use debian and as an ubuntu user I am clearly not capable of configuring it :'( | 20:35 |
| ludoza | nlsthzn I lose interest if i must configure my OS. But for the last 3 years I have tried to move over to a OS I can configure(if I want to) | 20:36 |
| nlsthzn | So what are you using then ludoza ? | 20:40 |
| ludoza | *cough*xp*cough* | 20:40 |
| ludoza | anyway... *whistle* I'm thinking of putting out an ad for rooms I'm renting out: "Rooms to rent, if you know the difference between linux and an OS it would be a +. If you are a female disregard everything we can't make other payment arrangements" | 20:41 |
| Kilos | xp | 20:41 |
| Kilos | eeeeek | 20:41 |
| ludoza | nlsthzn I'm actually dual booting my "work" notebook between xp and ubuntu LTS but I find myself more on the XP side then the ubuntu side :'( | 20:42 |
| Kilos | why nlsthzn | 20:42 |
| Kilos | oh work | 20:42 |
| ludoza | Kilos yea that sucky thing that pays the bills :/ | 20:44 |
| Kilos | eish i even get probs playing games on it | 20:44 |
| Kilos | nlsthzn, is it illegal to copy those games you were talking about | 20:45 |
| nlsthzn | Kilos: what games are those? | 20:46 |
| * nlsthzn might have memory issues | 20:46 | |
| Kilos | indie something | 20:46 |
| Kilos | wait i scroll back | 20:47 |
| Kilos | oh no it was the fly and that funny nick guy | 20:47 |
| nlsthzn | yes the humble bundle is not free as an beer (and most of the games are not under any free licenses what so ever) | 20:47 |
| superfly | Kilos: the humble indie bundle? yes, it's illegal - they are not open source, nor are they free | 20:47 |
| Kilos | eish | 20:48 |
| nlsthzn | that is why the bundles are such good value... you pay what you want for a set period | 20:48 |
| Kilos | oh | 20:49 |
| Kilos | maybe it better i go sleep | 20:49 |
| Kilos | sleep tight all | 20:49 |
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