[06:01] Morning [06:11] hiya sakhi [06:18] morning superfly and others [06:18] morning Kilos [06:46] morning maiatoday pascal` [07:19] hi morgs [07:19] hi Kilos [07:19] Morning Zabunteros! [07:21] lol they still sleeping or lurking [07:35] I'm not sleeping... I'm usually awake before everyone else [07:38] * morgs plays with ibid [07:51] morgs: I have an ibid bot running in a couple of channels - I even wrote a simple launchpad plugin to pull bug report details off LP [07:52] superfly: cool - ibid looks much easier to get up and running than knab which I used about 3 years ago [07:53] github has an irc bot which announces commits pushed to a repo - but it's not very friendly :) [07:54] yeah, I wanna add that ability to my launchpad plugin [08:01] tumbleweed: ping on global jam poster printing [09:32] anyone want my organs? [09:35] nuvolari: don't you want them? I'd imagine at least a few are pretty important in keeping you alive. [09:38] hee hee [09:39] * superfly pulls his hair out at certain people on the mailing list [09:40] at this stage I don't mind leaving earth :-/ [09:46] whats up nuvolari you dont sound happy [09:54] ek is nie oom Kilos [09:54] wat is fout seun [10:12] marcog: tomorrow's a good time for me to do it [10:12] superfly: yeah, don't know why I haven't written a launchpad plugin for ibid yet. We *use* launchpad for bugs, and I know launchpadlib backwards... :/ [10:12] superfly: so when are we going to see yours? [10:12] hrm, all I was doing was pulling stuff off the web page [10:13] * superfly should investigate launchpadlib [10:13] tumbleweed: kk [10:13] if you want to pull stuff from web pages, there's a way to get a rfc822 dump from a bug [10:13] tumbleweed: I just use BeautifulSoup [10:13] add +text to the end of the URL [10:14] seriously though, launchpadlib will do everything you want (but +text may be faster) [10:14] scraping is prone to problems [11:19] tumbleweed: this is what I've done: http://pastebin.com/eEx1SRCk [11:22] Kilos: ag werk oom, het net te veel [11:22] kan nie by alles uitkom nie [11:22] eish [11:23] se hulle moet extra hulp kry of vir jou n appie gee [11:38] oom, ons soek ons blou vir developers, maar daar is bitter min wat die interview deurmaak [11:38] *interview + toets [11:48] eish [11:48] als java seun? [11:49] jip [11:49] en die wat ons wel kan kry kom kan joburg af en soek joburg salarisse [11:51] ja dis die probleem in durbs. hulle betaal nog al die jare maar sleg met vergelyking met hier bo [11:52] they beleive that the sea, beach and bikini girls make up for poor salaries [11:52] Kilos: well, it does :P [11:52] hjehe [11:52] hehe okk [11:53] grrr ook [14:35] afternoon nlsthzn welcome to ubuntu-za [14:38] Why thank you Kilos my good man... I am very happy to be here [14:38] hee hyee [14:38] you so funny at times [14:40] :p [15:01] hello? [15:03] hello d3s3rtdw3ll3r [15:05] not a lot going on here [15:06] nuvolari: howzit from Dubai [15:06] d3s3rtdw3ll3r, hiya [15:06] mqassive nick hey [15:06] massive [15:07] thank heavens for tab keys [15:11] :) [15:12] you got a neighbour nlsthzn [15:12] Yup... [15:12] Only about 350-400km away... [15:12] yeah next door [15:12] hehe [15:13] d3s3rtdw3ll3r, tell us a bit about yourself [15:15] been out of saffaland for about 10 years now, 6 of which in Dubai [15:16] what do you do? [15:16] been digging ubuntu till unity but am gonna give it another go [15:16] and hopefully you are using ubuntu [15:16] IT consultant [15:16] lol i havent got to unity yet [15:17] at mo Im using crunchbang and debian [15:17] maverick rocks for me [15:17] aha [15:17] welcome to ubuntu-za [15:17] hope this isnt a one time visit [15:17] just finished dl of 10.04, gonna see if the gma500 support is any better [15:18] Kilos: shot ma ou [15:18] sorry 11.04 [15:20] you must be kinda tired from thinking up a nick like that hey? [15:20] had the oscillating oseric tentacle running on a 1.6 duo lappie and found it to be a resource hog [15:21] or maybe the vm's were killing it ;) [15:22] Kilos: prolly a hungover moment [15:22] i saw some stuff about pcs going slow at launchpad i think it was but there were ways to fix it so it was even faster [15:22] lol [15:23] Kilos: well the lappie was running since 8 or 7 with numerous upgrades etc, after many a year it finally started behaving buggy, much like a winslow machine after a week [15:23] Guarenteed that a VM will be slow and cumbersome VS a naitive install... [15:23] it has been very quiet here this year except when someone comes online for help then one of the experts jumps in [15:24] lol you also sound like a winsucks fan [15:24] nlsthzn: yea I use a minimal deb bigmem install for my production vm's [15:25] of cors my zimbra mail servers run good ol ubuntu, uptime of 400 odd days now [15:26] Kilos: yea not a fan of their business model [15:27] lol i hate them [15:27] specially now, they suing the pants off everyone now [15:27] only good for ms games [15:28] yea if only my ps3 could use the kb and mouse for fps [15:28] so hows the OSS front in Saffaland? [15:29] Dubai is verrry MS centric [15:29] a bit in the dark ages [15:30] the world is MS centric (except for a lot of America that is Mac crazy) [15:30] most of the world is. billy got a good grip [15:30] on the desktop front anyway [15:30] I think linux has marketshare on the web servers [15:30] seems to me ubuntu is mainly growing by word of mouth [15:31] now mobile devices ala android [15:31] there are too many none IT peeps that ask whats linux or ubuntu and are too scared to try it [15:31] I though ZA would be stock full of linux boxes [15:32] thats MS PR for you [15:32] i think you still battle to buy a pc here without ms installed [15:32] here and there are one or two suppliers [15:32] yea exactly, its the only way they can keep linux at bay [15:33] thats why I build my own boxes [15:33] and they had a good promotion with schools for support etc which they just withdrew once everyone is involved [15:33] but ZA is full o resourceful ppl I thought the OSS front would be cooking [15:34] Kilos: who Canonical or MS? [15:34] ms [15:34] lots of schools are now looking for alternatives [15:34] yea Ive had a few schools as clients had to fight tooth and nail to put services on linux [15:35] we had a chat about it a week or two ago [15:35] yea? [15:35] Ill look it up [15:35] linux is too daunting for them looks like so mac gonna be happy here too [15:36] errr I dunno, theyre just marketing and bling, no substance, why its so popular, ppl are suckers [15:36] you will have to change the mindset of teachers that only know ms [15:36] thing is, theyre teaching ICT not MS [15:37] marketing counts lots to the normal man on the street [15:37] its in their interest to broaden the exp of the students [15:37] theyre just conditioning students to become future ms users [15:38] yes but take an oldish teacher and give him an ubuntu cd and tell him to go install for his class and listen to the complaints [15:39] yea, well he needs a few hours to familiarize himself, I did manage to convert a few teachers by installing on their personal machines [15:39] but i also read there are whole cities in germany that have gone ubuntu, so there's hope for us yet [15:39] yea well they tend to be more forward thinking, about 10 years ahead of MENA [15:39] thats the big thing to have guys able to actually go and demo at schools [15:40] but the games issue is in ms's favour [15:41] more of a casual gamer myself, might be worth looking at seeing how bits run in Wine [15:41] ISnt Steam releasing a linux client? [15:42] dunno [15:42] i tried aoe3 on wine and was very slow [15:43] http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Steam_under_Linux#Ubuntu [15:43] yea only in WINE [15:43] how'd the game run natively on the kit? [15:43] d3s3rtdw3ll3r: Phorix made noise about it, but Steam's official position is still "no" [15:43] yeah it dont work lekker [15:44] d3s3rtdw3ll3r: rather look at supporting indie gamers who have Linux versions of their games [15:44] d3s3rtdw3ll3r: have you heard of the Humble Indie Bundle? [15:44] superfly: yea Im for that [15:45] http://www.geek.com/articles/games/linux-users-pay-3x-that-of-windows-users-for-humble-indie-bundle-3-2011082/ [15:45] yep [15:45] * superfly buys it every time [15:46] seems a worthy cause [15:46] * nlsthzn also got all the games now (except for the frozen bundle)... now if only he could get some time to pay them :) [15:46] lol [15:47] lol I hears ya [15:47] Atom Zombie Smasher was surprisingly addictive [15:47] true... I played like one round and was annoyed I had to go to bed :p [15:47] love the story line [15:48] Listen guys I gotta shoot, wife's bellowing, l8ers [15:49] lol [16:09] ok, home time [16:09] * nuvolari dies [16:09] mooi loop seun [16:09] heh, dankie oom [16:09] sal probeer [20:23] Anybody want to hear a joke? [20:23] go for it ludoza [20:24] Most companies uses a 10 year old operating system, when they can download the latest and greatest for free. [20:25] is there more [20:25] no [20:25] sorry not so good joke? [20:25] i was just looking at a registry cleaner for win me [20:26] the latest has a buy option and 30 trial period [20:26] the older ones are free [20:27] which OS is the greatest... I missed that part... [20:27] looks like thats how they work hey [20:28] well duh [20:28] nlsthzn minix 3, monolic kernels is so for the 80' [20:33] everybody knows hurd is where it's at... ;) [20:34] yip nlsthzn don't be just another fish in the school join hurd! [20:35] my only issue is that the only way to do that is to use debian and as an ubuntu user I am clearly not capable of configuring it :'( [20:36] nlsthzn I lose interest if i must configure my OS. But for the last 3 years I have tried to move over to a OS I can configure(if I want to) [20:40] So what are you using then ludoza ? [20:40] *cough*xp*cough* [20:41] anyway... *whistle* I'm thinking of putting out an ad for rooms I'm renting out: "Rooms to rent, if you know the difference between linux and an OS it would be a +. If you are a female disregard everything we can't make other payment arrangements" [20:41] xp [20:41] eeeeek [20:42] nlsthzn I'm actually dual booting my "work" notebook between xp and ubuntu LTS but I find myself more on the XP side then the ubuntu side :'( [20:42] why nlsthzn [20:42] oh work [20:44] Kilos yea that sucky thing that pays the bills :/ [20:44] eish i even get probs playing games on it [20:45] nlsthzn, is it illegal to copy those games you were talking about [20:46] Kilos: what games are those? [20:46] * nlsthzn might have memory issues [20:46] indie something [20:47] wait i scroll back [20:47] oh no it was the fly and that funny nick guy [20:47] yes the humble bundle is not free as an beer (and most of the games are not under any free licenses what so ever) [20:47] Kilos: the humble indie bundle? yes, it's illegal - they are not open source, nor are they free [20:48] eish [20:48] that is why the bundles are such good value... you pay what you want for a set period [20:49] oh [20:49] maybe it better i go sleep [20:49] sleep tight all