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| ochosi | hi everyone, any more feedback on greybird gtk3? | 08:11 |
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| Olbi | hello :) | 09:40 |
| Olbi | when will be daily iso's? | 09:41 |
| Olbi | ok, let's start testing next daily iso :D | 11:50 |
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| charlie-tca | Good morning | 13:45 |
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #xubuntu-devel to: Xubuntu Development | Oneiric Ocelot Feature Freeze in effect | #xubuntu for support | Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule | Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu | Xubuntu Community meeting 2011-08-28 at 22:00 UTC | Oneiric Alternate images are building | ||
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit: one for you to look at, please - Bug 832794 | 13:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 832794 in xfce4-smartpm-plugin (Ubuntu Oneiric) "xfce4-smartpm-plugin version 0.4.0-0ubuntu4 failed to build in oneiric (dup-of: 829513)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/832794 | 13:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 829513 in xfce4-smartpm-plugin (Ubuntu) "FTBFS with libnotify 0.7" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/829513 | 13:59 |
| charlie-tca | well, never mind. It appears you are too fast for me | 14:01 |
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #xubuntu-devel to: Xubuntu Development | Oneiric Ocelot Feature Freeze in effect | #xubuntu for support | Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule | Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu | Xubuntu Community meeting 2011-08-28 at 22:00 UTC | Oneiric Alternate images are available at 14:25 UTC | ||
| charlie-tca | Xubuntu alternate images just posted; please sync or download now to test them | 14:26 |
| Olbi | i done it, ned only testing now | 14:33 |
| * madnick current have 18 Xubuntu Virtual machines O_o | 14:35 | |
| charlie-tca | Olbi: if you done it early, you don't have today's alternate images | 14:38 |
| Olbi | I have now LiveCD | 14:38 |
| Olbi | 64 bits | 14:38 |
| charlie-tca | Okay | 14:38 |
| charlie-tca | The desktop images worked today, but the alternate images had to be done again | 14:38 |
| Olbi | madnick: for what so many?:P | 14:38 |
| * charlie-tca only has about 80 VBox machines set up | 14:39 | |
| madnick | Ive been doing alot of testing :) Mostly for Plymouth and LightDM | 14:39 |
| madnick | They changed stuff almost every day for a while :P | 14:39 |
| charlie-tca | which reminds me, I have to remove some old releases again, my VBox partition is 90% full | 14:40 |
| charlie-tca | OTOH, my oneiric is giving me headaches. I have to ssh in to run some commands to reboot the machine, or it hangs with no mouse or keyboard. | 14:42 |
| madnick | todays image? | 14:43 |
| charlie-tca | no, my install I had since alpha1 | 14:45 |
| charlie-tca | Just the machine I use daily | 14:45 |
| madnick | oh : | 14:45 |
| charlie-tca | The new installs don't seem to have that problem | 14:45 |
| charlie-tca | I think I will just reinstall for beta1, it should be a good time for it now | 14:46 |
| madnick | Beta 1 is tonight right? | 14:46 |
| charlie-tca | no, freeze is tomorrow, but beta1 won't be out for another week. We start testing it Tuesday | 14:47 |
| madnick | okay :) | 14:47 |
| charlie-tca | This weekend images are the first ones that might be used for beta1 | 14:48 |
| ochosi | madnick: how did the lightdm stuff go yesterday? | 14:51 |
| madnick | ochosi: :( | 14:52 |
| ochosi | that means "not well"? | 14:52 |
| madnick | ochosi: no time to finish, we are using a slighly modified version of gtk-example-greeter | 14:52 |
| ochosi | screener? | 14:52 |
| madnick | 1 sec | 14:53 |
| madnick | http://www.madnick.se/~madnick/xubuntu/changes.png | 14:53 |
| ochosi | hm right | 14:53 |
| ochosi | it's a bit boring but then again better than nothing | 14:53 |
| madnick | + droid sans | 14:53 |
| madnick | Yeah | 14:53 |
| ochosi | a pity you couldn't make those grey areas translucent black | 14:54 |
| madnick | yup | 14:54 |
| knome | huh, we're back at *that*? | 14:54 |
| knome | what happened? | 14:55 |
| ochosi | hey knome | 14:55 |
| madnick | UI Freeze | 14:55 |
| knome | right.. | 14:55 |
| madnick | But | 14:55 |
| knome | but is the other lightdm theme ready anyway? | 14:55 |
| knome | so, we might get it in with FFe? | 14:55 |
| madnick | No its not ready, thats the problem | 14:56 |
| knome | what's not ready in it? | 14:56 |
| madnick | It would take quite some time | 14:56 |
| madnick | Alot of stuff :) the theming might be close to ready | 14:56 |
| ochosi | even applying the theming of the mockups to the gdm-greeter layout would make it look a lot better | 14:56 |
| charlie-tca | There won't be an FFe for UI freeze | 14:56 |
| madnick | But there is some stuff, like handling sessions, autologin, and list users etc | 14:56 |
| madnick | We'll get them next release :P | 14:58 |
| madnick | Perhaps could've finished it im time, if real life didn't need me 4 hours per day almost every day :( | 15:00 |
| charlie-tca | Well, let's get it done in time for alpha1. That gives time to make improvements! | 15:12 |
| Unit193 | Is it going to be uploaded to a PPA for Oneiric so you can install it later? | 15:14 |
| knome | SRU? | 15:14 |
| charlie-tca | Let's wait until we actually have it working before trying to SRU it, huh? | 15:15 |
| knome | yes master | 15:15 |
| charlie-tca | Get it working in the development release to Backport or SRU it to Xubuntu 11.10. | 15:15 |
| charlie-tca | Oh! That means waiting until the next development release, doesn't it? | 15:16 |
| mr_pouit | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=639151 | 16:52 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 639151 in lightdm "Local privilege escalation" [Grave,Open] | 16:52 |
| mr_pouit | if it's not fixed in 0.9.3, I'm sure the release & security teams must be very happy right now | 16:52 |
| ochosi | uuh, nice... | 16:55 |
| mr_pouit | greybird 0.2.2 uploaded | 17:06 |
| ochosi | mr_pouit: ty | 17:07 |
| charlie-tca | Didn't we file something like that a long time back, and get told it was not going to be fixed? | 17:14 |
| charlie-tca | (long time back == this cycle) | 17:15 |
| mr_pouit | security issues? no, we didn't file anything like that afaik | 17:34 |
| mr_pouit | 16bit plymouth theme uploaded | 17:34 |
| charlie-tca | I thought we had one about lightdm screwing up with pam | 17:34 |
| charlie-tca | oh, well | 17:34 |
| charlie-tca | great about the plymouth theme! | 17:34 |
| mr_pouit | now, /away to install my new hard drive | 17:47 |
| charlie-tca | Good luck and have fun | 17:48 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: aisleriot is back in the archive, should I reseed it for beta 1? | 17:49 |
| charlie-tca | If it works, sure | 17:49 |
| * micahg will test it | 17:50 | |
| micahg | late tonight :) | 17:50 |
| charlie-tca | Hell, I can run updates and see if it is there? | 17:50 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: if you can, that would be great, just leave me a ping with the info, will be afk for a while | 17:53 |
| charlie-tca | micahg: how do I force it to upgrade? | 17:54 |
| charlie-tca | Installed: 1:3.0.2-0ubuntu1 | 17:54 |
| charlie-tca | Candidate: 1:3.1.1-0ubuntu1 | 17:54 |
| charlie-tca | nm | 17:54 |
| charlie-tca | it is in upgrades now | 17:54 |
| charlie-tca | will run it and see | 17:54 |
| charlie-tca | micahg: working now. Let' | 17:57 |
| charlie-tca | let's go ahead and seed it again | 17:57 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: k, will do later, that'll pick up the platform seed changes as well (new printer drivers) | 17:57 |
| charlie-tca | Okay | 17:58 |
| charlie-tca | Thanks for watching for that | 17:58 |
| ochosi | hey micahg | 18:03 |
| ochosi | i have some gmusicbrowser/freeze-related questions for you if you have time | 18:04 |
| micahg | ochosi: if it's quick, I'm about to leave for several hours | 18:06 |
| micahg | will be back around 12:00 UTC | 18:06 |
| micahg | oops | 18:06 |
| micahg | 0:00 :) | 18:06 |
| ochosi | ok, i'll make it very quick: | 18:06 |
| ochosi | new gmb-release is due in the next two weeks, will that be early enough for you to get the packages into oneiric? | 18:06 |
| micahg | ochosi: UI freeze is today :( | 18:07 |
| micahg | err, tomorrow | 18:07 |
| ochosi | right, but it's not really an UI issue, is it? | 18:07 |
| micahg | ochosi: I have no idea what changes you're making, if it's bug fix only, sure | 18:08 |
| ochosi | micahg: hm, nah, not really bugfix-only | 18:09 |
| ochosi | micahg: our ppa (shimmer) contains the latest gmusicbrowser from git (which is stable) plus the modifications we already have in natty | 18:10 |
| ochosi | would you consider simply pushing that package to oneiric? | 18:10 |
| ochosi | i know that usually you tend to get packages through debian first, but since there is no release atm, there's nothing to update in debian | 18:11 |
| micahg | ochosi: well, I suggest preparing an FFe bug then, if you get an ACK, I can push it in, we could do a snapshot first then release, but feature freeze was 2 weeks ago | 18:11 |
| ochosi | micahg: right, i see. i guess i was absent at the wrong time | 18:12 |
| ochosi | micahg: k, then let's skip it | 18:12 |
| micahg | ochosi: we can push the snapshot through Debian also (happens often), but if a release is expected, I'd push to snapshot to Ubuntu, then the release through Debian (assuming we're before beta 2) | 18:12 |
| ochosi | yes, that's what i thought would be ok | 18:13 |
| micahg | ochosi: we still need a freeze exception | 18:13 |
| micahg | !ffe | ochosi | 18:13 |
| ubottu | ochosi: Feature Freeze Exception. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess for the freeze exception process. | 18:13 |
| ochosi | micahg: yeah, i know, not sure i have the time to deal with that this week | 18:13 |
| ochosi | micahg: i already spent my "foss-time" trying to get greybird's gtk3 into shape | 18:14 |
| ochosi | but anyway, thanks for the heads up, i guess we can get a new version more easily in oneiric+1 | 18:14 |
| micahg | ochosi: well, we'll be frozen next week for beta 1, so when you get a chance, you can file for it, I"ll hold off until there's an ACK though | 18:14 |
| micahg | ochosi: we can always get the new version in Debian and sync right after release, but if it's important, there's still time for exceptions | 18:15 |
| ochosi | micahg: ok, well sure there are a lot of bugfixes, but also a few new features... | 18:15 |
| ochosi | micahg: k, i have taken enough of your time (and in fact i have to leave now too) | 18:15 |
| micahg | ochosi: so you can try for the exception, ubuntustudio is also affected BTW | 18:16 |
| ochosi | micahg: why? are they also shipping gmusicbrowser? | 18:16 |
| micahg | ochosi: apparently | 18:16 |
| ochosi | micahg: interesting, had no idea they did | 18:17 |
| ochosi | micahg: ok, i'm off now, i'll ping you if i get to filing the FFe bug | 18:17 |
| micahg | ochosi: sorry, usually not in a rush, but I'm actually off today | 18:18 |
| astraljava | Alright, finally got the seeds in order for Studio, time to test Xubuntu images. | 18:45 |
| charlie-tca | nice | 18:46 |
| astraljava | So, desktop 32-bit manual partitioning it is. | 18:47 |
| astraljava | Hehe, last I zsynced that image on this machine was early June. Target was still 19.7% complete, though. :D | 18:50 |
| astraljava | #################### 100.0% 10097.2 kBps DONE | 18:51 |
| astraljava | Gotta love this connection. | 18:51 |
| charlie-tca | no, I don't. I kinda of hate it | 19:03 |
| charlie-tca | I get a whopping 150kBps on a good fast day | 19:04 |
| charlie-tca | hm, This just seems so wrong :( | 19:47 |
| charlie-tca | 171.58 minutes ETA to sync edubuntu 64bit | 19:48 |
| charlie-tca | Sure glad I have 46% anyway ;) | 19:48 |
| charlie-tca | Now I remember why I quit syncing those images | 19:55 |
| Unit193 | I found I got much faster speeds when I just downloaded the entire file :P | 19:55 |
| charlie-tca | nope | 19:56 |
| charlie-tca | took me like 8 hours last time I tried that | 19:56 |
| Unit193 | Odd... I stopped doing that because I thought it would be harder on their servers | 19:56 |
| charlie-tca | what? | 19:57 |
| charlie-tca | download, zsync or rsync? | 19:57 |
| Unit193 | Full download | 19:57 |
| Unit193 | I'm now using dl-ubuntu-test-iso | 19:57 |
| charlie-tca | zsync uses the client to do the work (your computer), rsync uses the server, and download uses server, I think | 19:57 |
| Unit193 | "By default, the script will attempt to use zsync if it is available as it uses fewer resources on the cdimage server." | 20:00 |
| charlie-tca | right, zsync uses the client resources instead of the server resources | 20:16 |
| Unit193 | I gathered that actually ;) | 20:16 |
| charlie-tca | But I think downloads use the server more, right? | 20:16 |
| Unit193 | More b/w at the very least | 20:17 |
| astraljava | I'd think [z|r]syncs are harder on cpu, but the full download on disks. Does it matter in Canonical's infra? Doubt it. | 20:24 |
| Unit193 | Well, I do notice lag on the computer, but just typing "xubuntu" in terminal makes it worth it ;P | 20:25 |
| charlie-tca | We have been asked to use zsync whenever possible to help the server load | 20:40 |
| charlie-tca | They need to upgrade the servers yet | 20:41 |
| Unit193 | You notice Lubuntu hasn't been built for some time now? | 20:41 |
| charlie-tca | no, I didn't. Want me to tell what is wrong with it? | 20:43 |
| Unit193 | ummm... If you happen to know I would love to know | 20:45 |
| charlie-tca | console-setup : Conflicts: console-terminus | 20:48 |
| charlie-tca | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/oneiric/lubuntu/20110823/livecd-20110823-i386.out | 20:48 |
| charlie-tca | Devs have to fix it | 20:48 |
| charlie-tca | You can't have both console-setup and console-terminus seeded. They won't work together | 20:49 |
| Unit193 | Alright, I wonder if I sould ping him... | 20:52 |
| charlie-tca | I just gave it to gilir | 20:54 |
| Unit193 | PM'd? He is online now at support and offtopic (I'll stop now, thanks) | 20:55 |
| charlie-tca | no, he was in #ubuntu-release asking | 20:55 |
| charlie-tca | heh, they say great minds think alike :) | 20:56 |
| astraljava | 32-bit desktop install fails miserably :-/ | 20:58 |
| charlie-tca | really? | 20:59 |
| charlie-tca | from the desktop icon? | 20:59 |
| Unit193 | astraljava: Anytype I would guess? I can try Desktop or Alt | 20:59 |
| astraljava | No, from the first menu. | 20:59 |
| astraljava | I'm booting into the live session now, and try to install from there. | 21:00 |
| charlie-tca | Does it have a new logo in the menu? | 21:00 |
| knome | i'm afraid it shouldn't | 21:00 |
| astraljava | I'm gonna have to see the old and the new side-by-side, it's been a while since I last tested. | 21:01 |
| knome | the merge is still waiting for review by colin watson | 21:01 |
| charlie-tca | old is the circle of friends, new is the mouse | 21:01 |
| charlie-tca | I think I am trying to follow too many builds now | 21:02 |
| charlie-tca | Unit193: if lubuntu doesn't build, let me know. I will push for the re-spin if possible | 21:02 |
| charlie-tca | You have one building now, hopefully, it will work | 21:02 |
| Unit193 | charlie-tca: Thanks, I'll try to | 21:03 |
| charlie-tca | I can check logs and stuff, you just have to prompt me to | 21:04 |
| Unit193 | I really shouldn't make you do all the work when you aren't even part of the project :P | 21:05 |
| astraljava | Don't worry, charlie's a vet, he knows this stuff even in his sleep. He's the trooper. :D | 21:06 |
| Unit193 | Aye, and very helpful! I will learn at some point :P | 21:06 |
| astraljava | It's truly great to be here learning. | 21:07 |
| charlie-tca | Took me a very long time to learn | 21:07 |
| * charlie-tca is a bit slow these days | 21:07 | |
| charlie-tca | I will teach you what to look at and which fails apply | 21:08 |
| astraljava | Thanks! Hugely appreciated. | 21:08 |
| astraljava | jockey-backend fails, reporting now. | 21:08 |
| charlie-tca | reported already | 21:09 |
| astraljava | Oh okay. | 21:09 |
| charlie-tca | bug 831447 | 21:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 831447 in jockey (Ubuntu Oneiric) "jockey-backend crashed with MemoryError in run_dbus_service() (dup-of: 831754)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/831447 | 21:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 831754 in jockey (Ubuntu) "jockey-backend crashed with MemoryError in run_dbus_service()" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/831754 | 21:09 |
| Olbi | hello all :D | 21:10 |
| astraljava | Yeah, learnt that while actually reporting it in LP. | 21:10 |
| astraljava | Hi Olbi! | 21:10 |
| astraljava | Okay, trying to install now. | 21:10 |
| astraljava | Six minutes in, and nothing's happened thus far. | 21:16 |
| charlie-tca | knome: you break my images again? | 21:19 |
| charlie-tca | hehehe | 21:19 |
| charlie-tca | I suspect too many changes are happening in trying to beat the UI freeze deadline now | 21:20 |
| charlie-tca | There have been a ton of changes again to Oneiric in the past couple of days, so maybe by Friday we will have working images | 21:21 |
| charlie-tca | Are the alternate images working? | 21:21 |
| astraljava | Since I have zero experience with live sessions, how should I go about debugging this one? There's the circle with dots moving clock-wise, but that's about it. | 21:21 |
| astraljava | It shows nothing in VTs, unlike alternates (which is pretty much the reason why I prefer using them.) | 21:22 |
| charlie-tca | restart the live session, using Ctrl+Alt+backspace if needed | 21:23 |
| astraljava | X zap does nuthin' | 21:23 |
| charlie-tca | will from a tty | 21:24 |
| charlie-tca | then let me find the command to start ubiquity from a terminal | 21:24 |
| astraljava | sudo service lightdm restart works. | 21:24 |
| charlie-tca | okay, then open a terminal in the live session and run 'ubiquity -d' | 21:26 |
| charlie-tca | That should start the installer and will give a debug log | 21:26 |
| astraljava | Is the installer desktop icon launcher command correct? "ubiquity --desktop %k gtk_ui" | 21:27 |
| Olbi | started installing Xubuntu 64 bit LiveCD, manual partitioning works good | 21:27 |
| charlie-tca | yes, most likely | 21:28 |
| charlie-tca | but when trying to debug, we use a different command than the launcher uses | 21:28 |
| charlie-tca | Olbi: glad to hear that. Are you installing from the cd menu or the desktop? | 21:29 |
| Olbi | charlie-tca: correct | 21:29 |
| charlie-tca | which one? | 21:29 |
| astraljava | charlie-tca: ubiquity -d does nothing either. | 21:30 |
| charlie-tca | You went to the desktop and clicked the icon? | 21:30 |
| Olbi | yes | 21:30 |
| charlie-tca | astraljava: I will have to burn it and see then | 21:30 |
| charlie-tca | It is 386 only, at least | 21:30 |
| astraljava | Sure, I'll re-download, and check md5sum. | 21:30 |
| charlie-tca | I am burning it | 21:31 |
| Olbi | alternate checking or only livecd? | 21:34 |
| Olbi | forgot, alternate isn't working today :P | 21:35 |
| charlie-tca | no, we have alternate now | 21:36 |
| charlie-tca | !topic | 21:36 |
| ubottu | Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic | 21:36 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 21:36 |
| astraljava | charlie-tca: Sorry to sprinkle sea salt into the would that's got the knife sticking out of, but: | 21:36 |
| charlie-tca | I try to keep the topic updated so we all know what is happening | 21:36 |
| astraljava | 722,776,064 11.2M/s in 68s | 21:36 |
| astraljava | wound* | 21:36 |
| charlie-tca | yeah, just keep adding to it... ;) | 21:37 |
| charlie-tca | I only have one hour left on my zsync | 21:37 |
| astraljava | I'm soooo sorry... | 21:37 |
| charlie-tca | knome: no new logo on the cd menu today | 21:38 |
| charlie-tca | Never mind sorry, I just keep trying | 21:39 |
| charlie-tca | I have the desktop image, booting to live session | 21:40 |
| charlie-tca | madnick: there is a parser error in the plymouth script, but I haven't been able to copy it down yet | 21:41 |
| charlie-tca | It doesn't seem to stop anything | 21:41 |
| charlie-tca | It's one of them annoying "expected ? but got ? in line ???" things | 21:42 |
| charlie-tca | I got a live session and the jockey crash | 21:42 |
| charlie-tca | astraljava: at what point did the install fail? | 21:44 |
| charlie-tca | Did you check "Install this third party software"? | 21:44 |
| astraljava | charlie-tca: The installer never even started for me. | 21:45 |
| charlie-tca | You got a bad burn, or bad download, or bad virtual machine | 21:45 |
| charlie-tca | I'm at the partitioner here | 21:45 |
| astraljava | md5sums match, so I'm now trying unetbootin for creating the usb stick. | 21:45 |
| charlie-tca | oh, installing from usb? | 21:46 |
| astraljava | Yep. | 21:46 |
| charlie-tca | Ain't that broke? | 21:46 |
| astraljava | Why? | 21:46 |
| charlie-tca | installer won't start | 21:47 |
| charlie-tca | I think | 21:47 |
| astraljava | Well, I kinda noticed that. | 21:47 |
| astraljava | *grin* | 21:47 |
| astraljava | So, a known bug? | 21:47 |
| charlie-tca | I seen something on that this week | 21:47 |
| astraljava | Okay. | 21:47 |
| charlie-tca | not sure | 21:47 |
| charlie-tca | I think they were trying to get confirmation on it | 21:47 |
| charlie-tca | Try it again, and make sure. | 21:48 |
| charlie-tca | good, every machine I start cuts my download rate in half again | 21:48 |
| charlie-tca | I am trying to get these syncs done before I run another install | 21:49 |
| astraljava | Right. But that's a bit weird, though. Does your router reserve bandwidth for each connected machine by default? I can't think of any other way how that's possible. | 21:50 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know. I just plug things in and they are supposed to more or less work | 21:51 |
| charlie-tca | I think it is something to do with qwest dsl here in Idaho | 21:51 |
| astraljava | Okay. | 21:52 |
| charlie-tca | cableOne would be even worse, if I could get it | 21:52 |
| charlie-tca | Maybe I will check out the wireless providers again. I can get promised 10mB/s for less then I pay now | 21:53 |
| astraljava | That could be an option. | 21:54 |
| charlie-tca | wouldn't take much to be faster than what I got :( | 21:55 |
| astraljava | What | 21:55 |
| astraljava | sorry | 21:55 |
| astraljava | What's the advertised rate? | 21:56 |
| charlie-tca | mine now? 3MB | 21:56 |
| charlie-tca | speedcheck gives 1.2, which they say is correct | 21:56 |
| charlie-tca | wireless has 10MB connections, which might be faster | 21:57 |
| astraljava | DSL never reaches even close to the advertised, yeah. | 21:57 |
| charlie-tca | I don't really understand all the numbers, but I don't think it gets much slower for "broadband" than what I have now | 21:58 |
| astraljava | True. | 21:58 |
| madnick | charlie-tca: could you check the log? :) | 21:58 |
| madnick | For the plymouth stuff* :P | 21:58 |
| charlie-tca | oh, yes, I can | 21:58 |
| charlie-tca | let me boot it again. It is on the live session | 21:58 |
| madnick | ah | 21:58 |
| charlie-tca | Is my computer that slow? | 21:59 |
| Olbi | charlie-tca: what hardware you have? | 22:00 |
| astraljava | Couldn't possibly tell. What I can tell, though, is that unetbootin made absolutely no difference whatsoever. | 22:00 |
| madnick | I ran the script on my computer just now, the log says nothing | 22:00 |
| madnick | However | 22:01 |
| charlie-tca | Olbi: old | 22:01 |
| astraljava | Someone's waiting for confirmation on the usb install fail? | 22:01 |
| madnick | !info plymouth oneiric | 22:01 |
| ubottu | plymouth (source: plymouth): graphical boot animation and logger - main package. In component main, is required. Version 0.8.2-2ubuntu25 (oneiric), package size 119 kB, installed size 500 kB | 22:01 |
| charlie-tca | no, I don't even remember where I saw it | 22:01 |
| charlie-tca | madnick: will have it in a minute | 22:01 |
| astraljava | No worries, I'll ask on -release. | 22:01 |
| madnick | Ill spam the bot 1 more time, need to know if there is a different version :) | 22:02 |
| madnick | !info plymouth natty | 22:02 |
| ubottu | plymouth (source: plymouth): graphical boot animation and logger - main package. In component main, is required. Version 0.8.2-2ubuntu23 (natty), package size 110 kB, installed size 476 kB | 22:02 |
| madnick | okay | 22:02 |
| charlie-tca | Olbi: Hardware test; 2.8 GHz P4, 64bit; 1GB RAM; nVidia MX-4000 w/64MB memory | 22:02 |
| Olbi | charlie-tca: my is Athlon II x3 425, MSI 785G-E53 and 4GB DDR3 :) and integrated HD4200 :] | 22:03 |
| knome | Olbi, if you want HW comparisons, mine is at http://wiki.knome.fi/computers:start | 22:03 |
| Olbi | charlie-tca: second for tests is Athlon II x2 450, Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3, 4GB DDR3 and Sapphire HD 5750 | 22:03 |
| Olbi | knome: cool stuff :) | 22:04 |
| knome | Olbi, mmh, some could be better | 22:04 |
| Olbi | now I want for tests get 9600GT :] | 22:04 |
| madnick | mine is: Packard Bell, Sandy Bridge i7, 16GB RAM, 2TB hdd, ATI Radeon (some gaming thing, with a gamer as art on it) :P | 22:05 |
| Olbi | madnick: awesome :D | 22:05 |
| astraljava | madnick: Gaming? ATI? REALLY?!! | 22:05 |
| knome | madnick, ehm, is there ever been use for the ram >8GB? | 22:05 |
| madnick | knome: no swap! | 22:05 |
| Olbi | hehe :D | 22:06 |
| Olbi | 10 VBoxes :D | 22:06 |
| knome | madnick, no swap on my pc either.. | 22:06 |
| madnick | Honestly, I got this computer because I simply had money to spend | 22:06 |
| knome | mmh. | 22:06 |
| knome | won't get old anytime soon | 22:06 |
| madnick | With the facts in hand, I shouldve never done it :) | 22:06 |
| knome | (read 1 year) | 22:06 |
| madnick | my old station was good | 22:06 |
| knome | heh | 22:06 |
| Olbi | I need 2 computers cause I'm testing hardware on Linux and publish it at http://osworld.pl | 22:07 |
| knome | i will upgrade to >8GB as soon as there is any reason for that. :P | 22:07 |
| madnick | :D | 22:07 |
| Olbi | I have upgrade from 2GB to 4GB cause price was good :] | 22:07 |
| madnick | I dont even like this computer, because 16 bit Assembly is annoying, and EFI is really annoying | 22:07 |
| madnick | 64* | 22:07 |
| astraljava | Yeah, just hope Sandy Bridge support progresses for linux. | 22:08 |
| Olbi | processors are good support but igp is crap :/ | 22:08 |
| charlie-tca | madnick: it's in /lib/plymouth/themes/xubuntu-logo/xubuntu-logo.plymouth | 22:08 |
| astraljava | Oh it's only for graphics? | 22:08 |
| charlie-tca | but I may have to reboot to get the message | 22:08 |
| madnick | charlie-tca: hah! i did not touch that one :P | 22:08 |
| madnick | Ill check | 22:09 |
| madnick | what it says in it | 22:09 |
| madnick | charlie-tca: was it there yesterday too? | 22:09 |
| charlie-tca | don't know | 22:09 |
| charlie-tca | I don't pay enough attention to the screens when starting the session | 22:10 |
| madnick | could you copy the contents of it? because it would take me a while to download the live session today | 22:10 |
| Olbi | knome: nice site wiki.knome.fi :) | 22:10 |
| knome | Olbi, thanks. it runs the same theme than open.knome.fi, with the theme modified slightly | 22:11 |
| madnick | 00:09 < madnick> what it says in it | 22:11 |
| madnick | ops | 22:11 |
| madnick | sorry | 22:11 |
| knome | heh | 22:11 |
| madnick | need to paste link to my paste | 22:11 |
| knome | madnick, you're making no sense now. :) | 22:12 |
| madnick | http://pastebin.madnick.se/paste.php?id=4e557719759d5 | 22:12 |
| madnick | knome: i was in virtualbox | 22:12 |
| knome | oh right :P | 22:12 |
| madnick | and pasted | 22:12 |
| astraljava | knome: I suspect he needs toothpaste. | 22:12 |
| madnick | into this terminal, but it was in vbox | 22:12 |
| madnick | :P | 22:12 |
| knome | shouldn't vbox shared clipboard work?? | 22:12 |
| madnick | it have never done so for me | 22:12 |
| knome | worksforme. | 22:13 |
| knome | have you installed the guest additions? | 22:13 |
| madnick | nope | 22:13 |
| knome | heh | 22:13 |
| knome | that's the reason, i suppose | 22:13 |
| astraljava | WorksForMe™ | 22:13 |
| knome | well it's not too hard, but i suppose you don't want to do that everyday when testing | 22:13 |
| charlie-tca | I seldom install guest additions in my test machines | 22:14 |
| madnick | It breaks some stuff | 22:14 |
| madnick | like Xephyr | 22:14 |
| madnick | Guest additions that is | 22:14 |
| charlie-tca | madnick: rebooting to copy the message | 22:14 |
| madnick | charlie-tca: thanks :) | 22:14 |
| knome | xephyr? | 22:14 |
| charlie-tca | I suppose you want all of it at once, too :) | 22:14 |
| madnick | knome: revursive x servers | 22:15 |
| knome | huh, right | 22:15 |
| astraljava | Well, didn't see any bug reports regarding ubiquity failing from usb. If no-one responds in -release either, I'm gonna file it tomorrow if it still fails. | 22:16 |
| Olbi | go for shower :) | 22:16 |
| astraljava | Nah, I'll just file it instead. *grin* | 22:20 |
| knome | heh | 22:20 |
| charlie-tca | madnick: caught it: | 22:20 |
| charlie-tca | Parser error "/lib/plymouth/themes/xubuntu-logo/xubuntu-logo.script" L:193 c:2 : Expected ';' after an expression | 22:21 |
| Unit193 | Encrypted LVM doesn't really select, just goes back to the Partitioning Method screen on AltCD | 22:21 |
| charlie-tca | encrypted lvm is still broken, isn't it? | 22:22 |
| Unit193 | I would call that broken :P | 22:22 |
| madnick | hm | 22:22 |
| madnick | i think i see the error | 22:22 |
| madnick | fsck_done_fading = 1;inputbox | 22:23 |
| madnick | :( | 22:23 |
| charlie-tca | Not sure that is the same bug, Unit193 | 22:23 |
| charlie-tca | will you file a bug for it? | 22:23 |
| madnick | what can i do about that? | 22:23 |
| madnick | Should I ask mr_pouit | 22:24 |
| madnick | To remove that faulty thing | 22:24 |
| charlie-tca | fix it and give mr_pouit the fix | 22:24 |
| madnick | okay | 22:24 |
| charlie-tca | bug fixes are okay | 22:24 |
| charlie-tca | I can file a bug for it if mr_pouit needs one to put that in | 22:24 |
| Unit193 | charlie-tca: I don't know what's wrong, all I can say is "It dun work" :P | 22:25 |
| charlie-tca | well, that is not so good a description | 22:25 |
| Unit193 | Exactly. You can't select that without going in a loop | 22:25 |
| charlie-tca | okay, give that one a day and try again, then. | 22:28 |
| charlie-tca | I think that should be fixed tomorrow | 22:32 |
| charlie-tca | okay, I made the machine stop at the error, now I broke it | 22:32 |
| madnick | charlie-tca: did that error break anything for you in plymouth? | 22:36 |
| charlie-tca | no, it comes on when plymouth stops, same time as the "speech-dispatcher, starting bluetooth, pulseaudio, samed, checking battery state... | 22:37 |
| charlie-tca | I suppose if you have a fast computer, you don't get to see those? | 22:38 |
| madnick | Perhaps | 22:38 |
| madnick | it is 6 characters that are present for no reason, probably a mix up during my paste | 22:38 |
| charlie-tca | no problem, at we caught it now. | 22:39 |
| charlie-tca | This is why I test. I can break most anything ;) | 22:39 |
| madnick | :) | 22:40 |
| charlie-tca | madnick: Is there a way to have lightdm working by September 15? | 22:52 |
| charlie-tca | or is it going to take too much time and energy that you need to spend on other things? | 22:53 |
| Unit193 | Will do | 22:54 |
| charlie-tca | will do what? | 22:54 |
| charlie-tca | Oh, okay | 22:54 |
| Unit193 | Was away a little | 22:55 |
| madnick | charlie-tca: i could try :) | 22:56 |
| madnick | Like hopefully, i should be done even before that if i go at it | 22:57 |
| charlie-tca | Let me know. I need to know if we can or not. This is a no-change, gotta happen by date, if we decide to do it | 22:58 |
| madnick | okay | 22:58 |
| madnick | Ill let you know | 22:58 |
| charlie-tca | I will go talk to people and ask for an exception , if you can make it happen. Otherwise, we will wait for LTS to make it happen, without preasure | 22:59 |
| madnick | Reason Im not 100% sure is that im going away the 5th, and im not sure how long i will be away | 22:59 |
| charlie-tca | That's why I didn't want to pressure you. If it seems too much, better to wait | 23:00 |
| charlie-tca | What we have is fine for Oneiric. | 23:00 |
| madnick | I can try to finish as much as i can before that (dont tell them anything yet) and then if its close to finished, we could ask for it? if thats possible? | 23:01 |
| charlie-tca | sure, that is a good way to deal with it. That way, if you can finish it, I can push people where needed. If not, you don't feel preassure to push yourself too much. | 23:03 |
| madnick | :) | 23:03 |
| madnick | I could tell you why I am going away, and why its important, but not in a logged channel :P | 23:04 |
| madnick | But ill try | 23:04 |
| madnick | before that | 23:04 |
| charlie-tca | it's okay | 23:06 |
| knome | madnick, lol | 23:06 |
| madnick | :< | 23:07 |
| knome | awwh | 23:07 |
| knome | :) | 23:07 |
| astraljava | "I could tell you why I'm going away, but then I'd have to kill you. We wouldn't want that, now would we?" | 23:08 |
| madnick | :D | 23:09 |
| charlie-tca | um, let me think about that. ;) | 23:18 |
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