[08:11] <ochosi> hi everyone, any more feedback on greybird gtk3?
[09:40] <Olbi> hello :)
[09:41] <Olbi> when will be daily iso's?
[11:50] <Olbi> ok, let's start testing next daily iso :D
[13:45] <charlie-tca> Good morning
[13:59] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: one for you to look at, please - Bug 832794
[14:01] <charlie-tca> well, never mind. It appears you are too fast for me
[14:26] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu alternate images just posted; please sync or download now to test them
[14:33] <Olbi> i done it, ned only testing now
[14:35]  * madnick current have 18 Xubuntu Virtual machines O_o
[14:38] <charlie-tca> Olbi: if you done it early, you don't have today's alternate images
[14:38] <Olbi> I have now LiveCD
[14:38] <Olbi> 64 bits
[14:38] <charlie-tca> Okay
[14:38] <charlie-tca> The desktop images worked today, but the alternate images had to be done again
[14:38] <Olbi> madnick: for what so many?:P
[14:39]  * charlie-tca only has about 80 VBox machines set up
[14:39] <madnick> Ive been doing alot of testing :) Mostly for Plymouth and LightDM
[14:39] <madnick> They changed stuff almost every day for a while :P
[14:40] <charlie-tca> which reminds me, I have to remove some old releases again, my VBox partition is 90% full
[14:42] <charlie-tca> OTOH, my oneiric is giving me headaches. I have to ssh in to run some commands to reboot the machine, or it hangs with no mouse or keyboard.
[14:43] <madnick> todays image?
[14:45] <charlie-tca> no, my install I had since alpha1
[14:45] <charlie-tca> Just the machine I use daily
[14:45] <madnick> oh :
[14:45] <charlie-tca> The new installs don't seem to have that problem
[14:46] <charlie-tca> I think I will just reinstall for beta1, it should be a good time for it now
[14:46] <madnick> Beta 1 is tonight right?
[14:47] <charlie-tca> no, freeze is tomorrow, but beta1 won't be out for another week. We start testing it Tuesday
[14:47] <madnick> okay :)
[14:48] <charlie-tca> This weekend images are the first ones that might be used for beta1
[14:51] <ochosi> madnick: how did the lightdm stuff go yesterday?
[14:52] <madnick> ochosi: :(
[14:52] <ochosi> that means "not well"?
[14:52] <madnick> ochosi: no time to finish, we are using a slighly modified version of gtk-example-greeter
[14:52] <ochosi> screener?
[14:53] <madnick> 1 sec
[14:53] <madnick> http://www.madnick.se/~madnick/xubuntu/changes.png
[14:53] <ochosi> hm right
[14:53] <ochosi> it's a bit boring but then again better than nothing
[14:53] <madnick> + droid sans
[14:53] <madnick> Yeah
[14:54] <ochosi> a pity you couldn't make those grey areas translucent black
[14:54] <madnick> yup
[14:54] <knome> huh, we're back at *that*?
[14:55] <knome> what happened?
[14:55] <ochosi> hey knome 
[14:55] <madnick> UI Freeze
[14:55] <knome> right..
[14:55] <madnick> But 
[14:55] <knome> but is the other lightdm theme ready anyway?
[14:55] <knome> so, we might get it in with FFe?
[14:56] <madnick> No its not ready, thats the problem
[14:56] <knome> what's not ready in it?
[14:56] <madnick> It would take quite some time
[14:56] <madnick> Alot of stuff :) the theming might be close to ready
[14:56] <ochosi> even applying the theming of the mockups to the gdm-greeter layout would make it look a lot better
[14:56] <charlie-tca> There won't be an FFe for UI freeze
[14:56] <madnick> But there is some stuff, like handling sessions, autologin, and list users etc
[14:58] <madnick> We'll get them next release :P
[15:00] <madnick> Perhaps could've finished it im time, if real life didn't need me 4 hours per day almost every day :(
[15:12] <charlie-tca> Well, let's get it done in time for alpha1. That gives time to make improvements!
[15:14] <Unit193> Is it going to be uploaded to a PPA for Oneiric so you can install it later?
[15:14] <knome> SRU?
[15:15] <charlie-tca> Let's wait until we actually have it working before trying to SRU it, huh?
[15:15] <knome> yes master
[15:15] <charlie-tca> Get it working in the development release to Backport or SRU it to Xubuntu 11.10. 
[15:16] <charlie-tca> Oh! That means waiting until the next development release, doesn't it?
[16:52] <mr_pouit> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=639151
[16:52] <mr_pouit> if it's not fixed in 0.9.3, I'm sure the release & security teams must be very happy right now
[16:55] <ochosi> uuh, nice...
[17:06] <mr_pouit> greybird 0.2.2 uploaded
[17:07] <ochosi> mr_pouit: ty
[17:14] <charlie-tca> Didn't we file something like that a long time back, and get told it was not going to be fixed?
[17:15] <charlie-tca> (long time back == this cycle)
[17:34] <mr_pouit> security issues? no, we didn't file anything like that afaik
[17:34] <mr_pouit> 16bit plymouth theme uploaded
[17:34] <charlie-tca> I thought we had one about lightdm screwing up with pam
[17:34] <charlie-tca> oh, well
[17:34] <charlie-tca> great about the plymouth theme!
[17:47] <mr_pouit> now, /away to install my new hard drive
[17:48] <charlie-tca> Good luck and have fun
[17:49] <micahg> charlie-tca: aisleriot is back in the archive, should I reseed it for beta 1?
[17:49] <charlie-tca> If it works, sure
[17:50]  * micahg will test it
[17:50] <micahg> late tonight :)
[17:50] <charlie-tca> Hell, I can run updates and see if it is there?
[17:53] <micahg> charlie-tca: if you can, that would be great, just leave me a ping with the info, will be afk for a while
[17:54] <charlie-tca> micahg: how do I force it to upgrade?
[17:54] <charlie-tca> Installed: 1:3.0.2-0ubuntu1
[17:54] <charlie-tca>   Candidate: 1:3.1.1-0ubuntu1
[17:54] <charlie-tca> nm
[17:54] <charlie-tca> it is in upgrades now
[17:54] <charlie-tca> will run it and see
[17:57] <charlie-tca> micahg: working now. Let'
[17:57] <charlie-tca> let's go ahead and seed it again
[17:57] <micahg> charlie-tca: k, will do later, that'll pick up the platform seed changes as well (new printer drivers)
[17:58] <charlie-tca> Okay
[17:58] <charlie-tca> Thanks for watching for that
[18:03] <ochosi> hey micahg 
[18:04] <ochosi> i have some gmusicbrowser/freeze-related questions for you if you have time
[18:06] <micahg> ochosi: if it's quick, I'm about to leave for several hours
[18:06] <micahg> will be back around 12:00 UTC
[18:06] <micahg> oops
[18:06] <micahg> 0:00 :)
[18:06] <ochosi> ok, i'll make it very quick:
[18:06] <ochosi> new gmb-release is due in the next two weeks, will that be early enough for you to get the packages into oneiric?
[18:07] <micahg> ochosi: UI freeze is today :(
[18:07] <micahg> err, tomorrow
[18:07] <ochosi> right, but it's not really an UI issue, is it?
[18:08] <micahg> ochosi: I have no idea what changes you're making, if it's bug fix only, sure
[18:09] <ochosi> micahg: hm, nah, not really bugfix-only
[18:10] <ochosi> micahg: our ppa (shimmer) contains the latest gmusicbrowser from git (which is stable) plus the modifications we already have in natty
[18:10] <ochosi> would you consider simply pushing that package to oneiric?
[18:11] <ochosi> i know that usually you tend to get packages through debian first, but since there is no release atm, there's nothing to update in debian
[18:11] <micahg> ochosi: well, I suggest preparing an FFe bug then, if you get an ACK, I can push it in, we could do a snapshot first then release, but feature freeze was 2 weeks ago
[18:12] <ochosi> micahg: right, i see. i guess i was absent at the wrong time
[18:12] <ochosi> micahg: k, then let's skip it
[18:12] <micahg> ochosi: we can push the snapshot through Debian also (happens often), but if a release is expected, I'd push to snapshot to Ubuntu, then the release through Debian (assuming we're before beta 2)
[18:13] <ochosi> yes, that's what i thought would be ok
[18:13] <micahg> ochosi: we still need a freeze exception
[18:13] <micahg> !ffe | ochosi 
[18:13] <ochosi> micahg: yeah, i know, not sure i have the time to deal with that this week
[18:14] <ochosi> micahg: i already spent my "foss-time" trying to get greybird's gtk3 into shape
[18:14] <ochosi> but anyway, thanks for the heads up, i guess we can get a new version more easily in oneiric+1
[18:14] <micahg> ochosi: well, we'll be frozen next week for beta 1, so when you get a chance, you can file for it, I"ll hold off until there's an ACK though
[18:15] <micahg> ochosi: we can always get the new version in Debian and sync right after release, but if it's important, there's still time for exceptions
[18:15] <ochosi> micahg: ok, well sure there are a lot of bugfixes, but also a few new features...
[18:15] <ochosi> micahg: k, i have taken enough of your time (and in fact i have to leave now too)
[18:16] <micahg> ochosi: so you can try for the exception, ubuntustudio is also affected BTW
[18:16] <ochosi> micahg: why? are they also shipping gmusicbrowser?
[18:16] <micahg> ochosi: apparently
[18:17] <ochosi> micahg: interesting, had no idea they did
[18:17] <ochosi> micahg: ok, i'm off now, i'll ping you if i get to filing the FFe bug
[18:18] <micahg> ochosi: sorry, usually not in a rush, but I'm actually off today
[18:45] <astraljava> Alright, finally got the seeds in order for Studio, time to test Xubuntu images.
[18:46] <charlie-tca> nice
[18:47] <astraljava> So, desktop 32-bit manual partitioning it is.
[18:50] <astraljava> Hehe, last I zsynced that image on this machine was early June. Target was still 19.7% complete, though. :D
[18:51] <astraljava> #################### 100.0% 10097.2 kBps DONE
[18:51] <astraljava> Gotta love this connection.
[19:03] <charlie-tca> no, I don't. I kinda of hate it
[19:04] <charlie-tca> I get a whopping 150kBps on a good fast day
[19:47] <charlie-tca> hm, This just seems so wrong :(
[19:48] <charlie-tca> 171.58 minutes ETA to sync edubuntu 64bit
[19:48] <charlie-tca> Sure glad I have 46% anyway ;)
[19:55] <charlie-tca> Now I remember why I quit syncing those images
[19:55] <Unit193> I found I got much faster speeds when I just downloaded the entire file :P
[19:56] <charlie-tca> nope
[19:56] <charlie-tca> took me like 8 hours last time I tried that
[19:56] <Unit193> Odd... I stopped doing that because I thought it would be harder on their servers
[19:57] <charlie-tca> what?
[19:57] <charlie-tca> download, zsync or rsync?
[19:57] <Unit193> Full download
[19:57] <Unit193> I'm now using dl-ubuntu-test-iso
[19:57] <charlie-tca> zsync uses the client to do the work (your computer), rsync uses the server, and download uses server, I think
[20:00] <Unit193> "By default, the script will attempt to use zsync if it is available as it uses fewer resources on the cdimage server."
[20:16] <charlie-tca> right, zsync uses the client resources instead of the server resources
[20:16] <Unit193> I gathered that actually ;)
[20:16] <charlie-tca> But I think downloads use the server more, right?
[20:17] <Unit193> More b/w at the very least
[20:24] <astraljava> I'd think [z|r]syncs are harder on cpu, but the full download on disks. Does it matter in Canonical's infra? Doubt it.
[20:25] <Unit193> Well, I do notice lag on the computer, but just typing "xubuntu" in terminal makes it worth it ;P
[20:40] <charlie-tca> We have been asked to use zsync whenever possible to help the server load
[20:41] <charlie-tca> They need to upgrade the servers yet
[20:41] <Unit193> You notice Lubuntu hasn't been built for some time now?
[20:43] <charlie-tca> no, I didn't. Want me to tell what is wrong with it?
[20:45] <Unit193> ummm... If you happen to know I would love to know
[20:48] <charlie-tca> console-setup : Conflicts: console-terminus
[20:48] <charlie-tca> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/oneiric/lubuntu/20110823/livecd-20110823-i386.out
[20:48] <charlie-tca> Devs have to fix it
[20:49] <charlie-tca> You can't have both console-setup and console-terminus seeded. They won't work together
[20:52] <Unit193> Alright, I wonder if I sould ping him...
[20:54] <charlie-tca> I just gave it to gilir
[20:55] <Unit193> PM'd? He is online now at support and offtopic (I'll stop now, thanks)
[20:55] <charlie-tca> no, he was in #ubuntu-release asking
[20:56] <charlie-tca> heh, they say great minds think alike :)
[20:58] <astraljava> 32-bit desktop install fails miserably :-/
[20:59] <charlie-tca> really?
[20:59] <charlie-tca> from the desktop icon?
[20:59] <Unit193> astraljava: Anytype I would guess? I can try Desktop or Alt
[20:59] <astraljava> No, from the first menu.
[21:00] <astraljava> I'm booting into the live session now, and try to install from there.
[21:00] <charlie-tca> Does it have a new logo in the menu?
[21:00] <knome> i'm afraid it shouldn't
[21:01] <astraljava> I'm gonna have to see the old and the new side-by-side, it's been a while since I last tested.
[21:01] <knome> the merge is still waiting for review by colin watson
[21:01] <charlie-tca> old is the circle of friends, new is the mouse
[21:02] <charlie-tca> I think I am trying to follow too many builds now
[21:02] <charlie-tca> Unit193: if lubuntu doesn't build, let me know. I will push for the re-spin if possible
[21:02] <charlie-tca> You have one building now, hopefully, it will work
[21:03] <Unit193> charlie-tca: Thanks, I'll try to
[21:04] <charlie-tca> I can check logs and stuff, you just have to prompt me to
[21:05] <Unit193> I really shouldn't make you do all the work when you aren't even part of the project :P
[21:06] <astraljava> Don't worry, charlie's a vet, he knows this stuff even in his sleep. He's the trooper. :D
[21:06] <Unit193> Aye, and very helpful! I will learn at some point :P
[21:07] <astraljava> It's truly great to be here learning.
[21:07] <charlie-tca> Took me a very long time to learn
[21:07]  * charlie-tca is a bit slow these days
[21:08] <charlie-tca> I will teach you what to look at and which fails apply
[21:08] <astraljava> Thanks! Hugely appreciated.
[21:08] <astraljava> jockey-backend fails, reporting now.
[21:09] <charlie-tca> reported already
[21:09] <astraljava> Oh okay.
[21:09] <charlie-tca> bug 831447
[21:10] <Olbi> hello all :D
[21:10] <astraljava> Yeah, learnt that while actually reporting it in LP.
[21:10] <astraljava> Hi Olbi!
[21:10] <astraljava> Okay, trying to install now.
[21:16] <astraljava> Six minutes in, and nothing's happened thus far.
[21:19] <charlie-tca> knome: you break my images again?
[21:19] <charlie-tca> hehehe
[21:20] <charlie-tca> I suspect too many changes are happening in trying to beat the UI freeze deadline now
[21:21] <charlie-tca> There have been a ton of changes again to Oneiric in the past couple of days, so maybe by Friday we will have working images
[21:21] <charlie-tca> Are the alternate images working?
[21:21] <astraljava> Since I have zero experience with live sessions, how should I go about debugging this one? There's the circle with dots moving clock-wise, but that's about it.
[21:22] <astraljava> It shows nothing in VTs, unlike alternates (which is pretty much the reason why I prefer using them.)
[21:23] <charlie-tca> restart the live session, using Ctrl+Alt+backspace if needed
[21:23] <astraljava> X zap does nuthin'
[21:24] <charlie-tca> will from a tty
[21:24] <charlie-tca> then let me find the command to start ubiquity from a terminal
[21:24] <astraljava> sudo service lightdm restart works.
[21:26] <charlie-tca> okay, then open a terminal in the live session and run 'ubiquity -d'
[21:26] <charlie-tca> That should start the installer and will give a debug log
[21:27] <astraljava> Is the installer desktop icon launcher command correct? "ubiquity --desktop %k gtk_ui"
[21:27] <Olbi> started installing Xubuntu 64 bit LiveCD, manual partitioning works good
[21:28] <charlie-tca> yes, most likely
[21:28] <charlie-tca> but when trying to debug, we use a different command than the launcher uses
[21:29] <charlie-tca> Olbi: glad to hear that. Are you installing from the cd menu or the desktop?
[21:29] <Olbi> charlie-tca: correct
[21:29] <charlie-tca> which one?
[21:30] <astraljava> charlie-tca: ubiquity -d does nothing either.
[21:30] <charlie-tca> You went to the desktop and clicked the icon?
[21:30] <Olbi> yes
[21:30] <charlie-tca> astraljava: I will have to burn it and see then
[21:30] <charlie-tca> It is 386 only, at least
[21:30] <astraljava> Sure, I'll re-download, and check md5sum.
[21:31] <charlie-tca> I am burning it
[21:34] <Olbi> alternate checking or only livecd?
[21:35] <Olbi> forgot, alternate isn't working today :P
[21:36] <charlie-tca> no, we have alternate now
[21:36] <charlie-tca> !topic
[21:36] <charlie-tca> yup
[21:36] <astraljava> charlie-tca: Sorry to sprinkle sea salt into the would that's got the knife sticking out of, but:
[21:36] <charlie-tca> I try to keep the topic updated so we all know what is happening
[21:36] <astraljava> 722,776,064 11.2M/s   in 68s
[21:36] <astraljava> wound*
[21:37] <charlie-tca> yeah, just keep adding to it... ;)
[21:37] <charlie-tca> I only have one hour left on my zsync
[21:37] <astraljava> I'm soooo sorry...
[21:38] <charlie-tca> knome: no new logo on the cd menu today
[21:39] <charlie-tca> Never mind sorry, I just keep trying
[21:40] <charlie-tca> I have the desktop image, booting to live session
[21:41] <charlie-tca> madnick: there is a parser error in the plymouth script, but I haven't been able to copy it down yet
[21:41] <charlie-tca> It doesn't seem to stop anything
[21:42] <charlie-tca> It's one of them annoying "expected ? but got ? in line ???" things
[21:42] <charlie-tca> I got a live session and the jockey crash
[21:44] <charlie-tca> astraljava: at what point did the install fail?
[21:44] <charlie-tca> Did you check "Install this third party software"?
[21:45] <astraljava> charlie-tca: The installer never even started for me.
[21:45] <charlie-tca> You got a bad burn, or bad download, or bad virtual machine
[21:45] <charlie-tca> I'm at the partitioner here
[21:45] <astraljava> md5sums match, so I'm now trying unetbootin for creating the usb stick.
[21:46] <charlie-tca> oh, installing from usb?
[21:46] <astraljava> Yep.
[21:46] <charlie-tca> Ain't that broke?
[21:46] <astraljava> Why?
[21:47] <charlie-tca> installer won't start
[21:47] <charlie-tca> I think
[21:47] <astraljava> Well, I kinda noticed that.
[21:47] <astraljava> *grin*
[21:47] <astraljava> So, a known bug?
[21:47] <charlie-tca> I seen something on that this week
[21:47] <astraljava> Okay.
[21:47] <charlie-tca> not sure
[21:47] <charlie-tca> I think they were trying to get confirmation on it
[21:48] <charlie-tca> Try it again, and make sure.
[21:48] <charlie-tca> good, every machine I start cuts my download rate in half again
[21:49] <charlie-tca> I am trying to get these syncs done before I run another install
[21:50] <astraljava> Right. But that's a bit weird, though. Does your router reserve bandwidth for each connected machine by default? I can't think of any other way how that's possible.
[21:51] <charlie-tca> I don't know. I just plug things in and they are supposed to more or less work
[21:51] <charlie-tca> I think it is something to do with qwest dsl here in Idaho
[21:52] <astraljava> Okay.
[21:52] <charlie-tca> cableOne would be even worse, if I could get it
[21:53] <charlie-tca> Maybe I will check out the wireless providers again. I can get promised 10mB/s for less then I pay now
[21:54] <astraljava> That could be an option.
[21:55] <charlie-tca> wouldn't take much to be faster than what I got :(
[21:55] <astraljava> What
[21:55] <astraljava> sorry
[21:56] <astraljava> What's the advertised rate?
[21:56] <charlie-tca> mine now? 3MB
[21:56] <charlie-tca> speedcheck gives 1.2, which they say is correct
[21:57] <charlie-tca> wireless has 10MB connections, which might be faster
[21:57] <astraljava> DSL never reaches even close to the advertised, yeah.
[21:58] <charlie-tca> I don't really understand all the numbers, but I don't think it gets much slower for "broadband" than what I have now
[21:58] <astraljava> True.
[21:58] <madnick> charlie-tca: could you check the log? :)
[21:58] <madnick> For the plymouth stuff* :P
[21:58] <charlie-tca> oh, yes, I can
[21:58] <charlie-tca> let me boot it again. It is on the live session
[21:58] <madnick> ah
[21:59] <charlie-tca> Is my computer that slow?
[22:00] <Olbi> charlie-tca: what hardware you have?
[22:00] <astraljava> Couldn't possibly tell. What I can tell, though, is that unetbootin made absolutely no difference whatsoever.
[22:00] <madnick> I ran the script on my computer just now, the log says nothing
[22:01] <madnick> However
[22:01] <charlie-tca> Olbi: old
[22:01] <astraljava> Someone's waiting for confirmation on the usb install fail?
[22:01] <madnick> !info plymouth oneiric
[22:01] <charlie-tca> no, I don't even remember where I saw it
[22:01] <charlie-tca> madnick: will have it in a minute
[22:01] <astraljava> No worries, I'll ask on -release.
[22:02] <madnick> Ill spam the bot 1 more time, need to know if there is a different version :)
[22:02] <madnick> !info plymouth natty
[22:02] <madnick> okay
[22:02] <charlie-tca> Olbi: Hardware test; 2.8 GHz P4, 64bit; 1GB RAM; nVidia MX-4000 w/64MB memory
[22:03] <Olbi> charlie-tca: my is Athlon II x3 425, MSI 785G-E53 and 4GB DDR3 :) and integrated HD4200 :]
[22:03] <knome> Olbi, if you want HW comparisons, mine is at http://wiki.knome.fi/computers:start
[22:03] <Olbi> charlie-tca: second for tests is Athlon II x2 450, Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3, 4GB DDR3 and Sapphire HD 5750
[22:04] <Olbi> knome: cool stuff :)
[22:04] <knome> Olbi, mmh, some could be better
[22:04] <Olbi> now I want for tests get 9600GT :]
[22:05] <madnick> mine is: Packard Bell, Sandy Bridge i7, 16GB RAM, 2TB hdd, ATI Radeon (some gaming thing, with a gamer as art on it) :P
[22:05] <Olbi> madnick: awesome :D
[22:05] <astraljava> madnick: Gaming? ATI? REALLY?!!
[22:05] <knome> madnick, ehm, is there ever been use for the ram >8GB?
[22:05] <madnick> knome: no swap!
[22:06] <Olbi> hehe :D
[22:06] <Olbi> 10 VBoxes :D
[22:06] <knome> madnick, no swap on my pc either..
[22:06] <madnick> Honestly, I got this computer because I simply had money to spend
[22:06] <knome> mmh.
[22:06] <knome> won't get old anytime soon
[22:06] <madnick> With the facts in hand, I shouldve never done it :)
[22:06] <knome> (read 1 year)
[22:06] <madnick> my old station was good
[22:06] <knome> heh
[22:07] <Olbi> I need 2 computers cause I'm testing hardware on Linux and publish it at http://osworld.pl
[22:07] <knome> i will upgrade to >8GB as soon as there is any reason for that. :P
[22:07] <madnick> :D
[22:07] <Olbi> I have upgrade from 2GB to 4GB cause price was good :]
[22:07] <madnick> I dont even like this computer, because 16 bit Assembly is annoying, and EFI is really annoying
[22:07] <madnick> 64*
[22:08] <astraljava> Yeah, just hope Sandy Bridge support progresses for linux.
[22:08] <Olbi> processors are good support but igp is crap :/
[22:08] <charlie-tca> madnick: it's in /lib/plymouth/themes/xubuntu-logo/xubuntu-logo.plymouth
[22:08] <astraljava> Oh it's only for graphics?
[22:08] <charlie-tca> but I may have to reboot to get the message
[22:08] <madnick> charlie-tca: hah! i did not touch that one :P
[22:09] <madnick> Ill check
[22:09] <madnick> what it says in it
[22:09] <madnick> charlie-tca: was it there yesterday too?
[22:09] <charlie-tca> don't know
[22:10] <charlie-tca> I don't pay enough attention to the screens when starting the session
[22:10] <madnick> could you copy the contents of it? because it would take me a while to download the live session today
[22:10] <Olbi> knome: nice site wiki.knome.fi :)
[22:11] <knome> Olbi, thanks. it runs the same theme than open.knome.fi, with the theme modified slightly
[22:11] <madnick> 00:09 < madnick> what it says in it
[22:11] <madnick> ops
[22:11] <madnick> sorry
[22:11] <knome> heh
[22:11] <madnick> need to paste link to my paste
[22:12] <knome> madnick, you're making no sense now. :)
[22:12] <madnick> http://pastebin.madnick.se/paste.php?id=4e557719759d5
[22:12] <madnick> knome: i was in virtualbox
[22:12] <knome> oh right :P
[22:12] <madnick> and pasted 
[22:12] <astraljava> knome: I suspect he needs toothpaste.
[22:12] <madnick> into this terminal, but it was in vbox
[22:12] <madnick> :P
[22:12] <knome> shouldn't vbox shared clipboard work??
[22:12] <madnick> it have never done so for me
[22:13] <knome> worksforme.
[22:13] <knome> have you installed the guest additions?
[22:13] <madnick> nope
[22:13] <knome> heh
[22:13] <knome> that's the reason, i suppose
[22:13] <astraljava> WorksForMe™
[22:13] <knome> well it's not too hard, but i suppose you don't want to do that everyday when testing
[22:14] <charlie-tca> I seldom install guest additions in my test machines
[22:14] <madnick> It breaks some stuff
[22:14] <madnick> like Xephyr
[22:14] <madnick> Guest additions that is
[22:14] <charlie-tca> madnick: rebooting to copy the message
[22:14] <madnick> charlie-tca: thanks :)
[22:14] <knome> xephyr?
[22:14] <charlie-tca> I suppose you want all of it at once, too :)
[22:15] <madnick> knome: revursive x servers
[22:15] <knome> huh, right
[22:16] <astraljava> Well, didn't see any bug reports regarding ubiquity failing from usb. If no-one responds in -release either, I'm gonna file it tomorrow if it still fails.
[22:16] <Olbi> go for shower :)
[22:20] <astraljava> Nah, I'll just file it instead. *grin*
[22:20] <knome> heh
[22:20] <charlie-tca> madnick: caught it:
[22:21] <charlie-tca> Parser error "/lib/plymouth/themes/xubuntu-logo/xubuntu-logo.script" L:193 c:2 : Expected ';' after an expression
[22:21] <Unit193> Encrypted LVM doesn't really select, just goes back to the Partitioning Method screen on AltCD
[22:22] <charlie-tca> encrypted lvm is still broken, isn't it?
[22:22] <Unit193> I would call that broken :P
[22:22] <madnick> hm
[22:22] <madnick> i think i see the error
[22:23] <madnick> fsck_done_fading = 1;inputbox
[22:23] <madnick> :(
[22:23] <charlie-tca> Not sure that is the same bug, Unit193 
[22:23] <charlie-tca> will you file a bug for it?
[22:23] <madnick> what can i do about that?
[22:24] <madnick> Should I ask mr_pouit 
[22:24] <madnick> To remove that faulty thing
[22:24] <charlie-tca> fix it and give mr_pouit the fix
[22:24] <madnick> okay
[22:24] <charlie-tca> bug fixes are okay
[22:24] <charlie-tca> I can file a bug for it if mr_pouit needs one to put that in
[22:25] <Unit193> charlie-tca: I don't know what's wrong, all I can say is "It dun work" :P
[22:25] <charlie-tca> well, that is not so good a description
[22:25] <Unit193> Exactly. You can't select that without going in a loop
[22:28] <charlie-tca> okay, give that one a day and try again, then. 
[22:32] <charlie-tca> I think that should be fixed tomorrow
[22:32] <charlie-tca> okay, I made the machine stop at the error, now I broke it
[22:36] <madnick> charlie-tca: did that error break anything for you in plymouth?
[22:37] <charlie-tca> no, it comes on when plymouth stops, same time as the "speech-dispatcher, starting bluetooth, pulseaudio, samed, checking battery state...
[22:38] <charlie-tca> I suppose if you have a fast computer, you don't get to see those?
[22:38] <madnick> Perhaps
[22:38] <madnick> it is 6 characters that are present for no reason, probably a mix up during my paste
[22:39] <charlie-tca> no problem, at we caught it now.
[22:39] <charlie-tca> This is why I test. I can break most anything ;)
[22:40] <madnick> :)
[22:52] <charlie-tca> madnick: Is there a way to have lightdm working by September 15?
[22:53] <charlie-tca> or is it going to take too much time and energy that you need to spend on other things?
[22:54] <Unit193> Will do
[22:54] <charlie-tca> will do what?
[22:54] <charlie-tca> Oh, okay
[22:55] <Unit193> Was away a little
[22:56] <madnick> charlie-tca: i could try :)
[22:57] <madnick> Like hopefully, i should be done even before that if i go at it
[22:58] <charlie-tca> Let me know. I need to know if we can or not. This is a no-change, gotta happen by date, if we decide to do it
[22:58] <madnick> okay
[22:58] <madnick> Ill let you know
[22:59] <charlie-tca> I will go talk to people and ask for an exception , if you can make it happen. Otherwise, we will wait for LTS to make it happen, without preasure
[22:59] <madnick> Reason Im not 100% sure is that im going away the 5th, and im not sure how long i will be away
[23:00] <charlie-tca> That's why I didn't want to pressure you. If it seems too much, better to wait
[23:00] <charlie-tca> What we have is fine for Oneiric.
[23:01] <madnick> I can try to finish as much as i can before that (dont tell them anything yet) and then if its close to finished, we could ask for it? if thats possible?
[23:03] <charlie-tca> sure, that is a good way to deal with it. That way, if you can finish it, I can push people where needed. If not, you don't feel preassure to push yourself too much.
[23:03] <madnick> :)
[23:04] <madnick> I could tell you why I am going away, and why its important, but not in a logged channel :P
[23:04] <madnick> But ill try
[23:04] <madnick> before that
[23:06] <charlie-tca> it's okay
[23:06] <knome> madnick, lol
[23:07] <madnick> :<
[23:07] <knome> awwh
[23:07] <knome> :)
[23:08] <astraljava> "I could tell you why I'm going away, but then I'd have to kill you. We wouldn't want that, now would we?"
[23:09] <madnick> :D
[23:18] <charlie-tca> um, let me think about that. ;)