[00:33] <rbelem> hey guys, do you know if is there something like git commit --amend in bzr?
[05:34] <rbelem> ScottK, Quintasan_, i just finished the changes to -runtime
[05:34] <rbelem> lp:~rbelem/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime-active-4.7
[05:35]  * rbelem goes to bed
[07:45] <Quintasan_> rbelem: \o/
[07:45]  * Quintasan_ goes looking
[07:45] <Quintasan> Good morning
[07:57] <Quintasan> ScottK: Hmmm, this looks good. Now we have kde-runtime and kde-runtime-active packages
[08:38] <bambee> morning
[08:39] <bambee> this bug in the taskmanager is seriously boring :\   (when you close a window with "x" , it does not disappear from the taskbar)
[08:40] <bambee> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=275469
[08:41] <bambee> If it's fixed before kde 4.7.1 is out, I will backport the patch , I think
[10:00] <djszapi> Hi! Is there an up-to-date debian folder content for KDE 4.7 (kdebase-runtime) somewhere on VCS ? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/oneiric/kdebase-runtime/oneiric/files/head:/debian/ -> This one has the latest entry 05.30 this year.
[10:11] <bambee> djszapi: have a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime
[10:12] <bambee> kdebase-runtime has been renamed to kde-runtime on upstream
[10:28] <Quintasan> djszapi: This branch will have some Plasma Active related changes today so be sure to pull changes later
[10:29] <Quintasan> Urgh
[10:29] <djszapi> I will just use compilation time patches
[10:29] <djszapi> for build, I will not use feature fix patches for starter.
[10:29] <djszapi> but it seemed to build to me.
[10:30] <Quintasan> rbelem: pingo
[10:31] <Quintasan> rbelem: Somehow the build failed here: activitymanager_plugin_*.so are not there (as in not built) I suspect patches not applying after all
[10:39] <Quintasan> AAAAAH
[10:42] <Quintasan> BRRRRRRRRRRr
[10:42]  * Quintasan goes and makes some tea
[10:44] <Quintasan> ScottK: My assumption was entirely wrong. The patching routine in dh is not as flexible as I had initially thought
[10:44] <Quintasan> rbelem: ^
[10:45]  * Quintasan tries to fix this before he goes on about it in detai
[10:45] <Quintasan> +l
[10:47] <Tm_T> +1 from me too
[10:47] <Tm_T> ...
[10:47] <Quintasan> It's an "L" :P
[10:47] <Tm_T> I know, I tried to throw in a bit of an humour (:)
[10:48]  * Quintasan sometime horribly fails at understanding jokes
[10:48] <Quintasan> +s
[10:48] <Quintasan> GRRRRRRRR
[10:48] <Quintasan> Break time
[10:48]  * Tm_T has been spending pretty much all of his time on applying for jobs lately
[10:48] <Tm_T> or, well, finding one in general
[11:36]  * rbelem pokes Quintasan 
[11:40]  * rbelem pokes Quintasan again
[11:40] <Quintasan> rbelem: POKE
[11:40] <Quintasan> OOH
[11:40] <Quintasan> I see it now
[11:40] <rbelem> Quintasan, :-D
[11:41] <rbelem> Quintasan, did you manage to get it working?
[11:41] <Quintasan> rbelem: I did
[11:41] <rbelem> Quintasan, it is building fine here
[11:41] <Quintasan> Here is a little advice
[11:41] <Quintasan> rbelem: If you prepend debian/tmp-something in install but don't add destination path
[11:41] <Quintasan> here is what happens
[11:42] <rbelem> oh!
[11:42] <rbelem> i got it
[11:42] <rbelem> :-/
[11:42] <Quintasan> /home/quintasan/Sauce/pbuilder/oneiric-amd64/result/lol/debian/tmp-kde-runtime-active/usr
[11:42] <Quintasan> :O
[11:42] <rbelem> :-D
[11:42] <rbelem> Quintasan, did you fix that?
[11:43] <Quintasan> Fixing
[11:43] <rbelem> Quintasan, thx a lot
[11:44] <rbelem> Quintasan, after that lets get slc and plasma-mobile uploaded?
[11:45] <Quintasan> If ScottK is not particulary against it then I guess it can
[11:46]  * rbelem pokes ScottK :-D
[11:56] <ScottK> Quintasan: Is -runtime sorted?
[11:57] <Quintasan> ScottK: Almost, needs minor adjustments
[11:57] <ScottK> OK.  Really, really running out of time ...
[11:57] <ScottK> No pressure.
[12:04] <dpm_> hi Kubuntu devs. While someone from Qt upstream might run a session on App Developer Week, we still haven't got any KDE/Qt-related session on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek/Timetable , and I think it'd be interesting to have some other content than strictly the main Ubuntu flavour - would anyone be up for a session to showcase any cool KDE/Qt stuff people can integrate to their applications?
[12:31] <bulldog98_> apachelogger: how about a phonon talk :)
[13:31] <Quintasan> ScottK: https://code.launchpad.net/~quintasan/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime-active-4.7 <-- review please
[13:32] <ScottK> How's it build?
[13:32] <ScottK> dpm_: Ask us tomorrow after the beta freeze is on.
[13:32] <dpm_> good point. Will do, thanks ScottK
[13:33] <Quintasan> ScottK: Well, I just build it once, unpatch the source, apply the other series file and built once again in separate build-dir
[13:33] <Quintasan> ScottK: Most stuff was done by rbelem but I had the fix the patching logic
[13:34] <Quintasan> It was wrong because I had wrong assumptions about build system
[13:34] <ScottK> Can you show me how to get a diff from what's in the archive now?
[13:34] <Quintasan> hmm
[13:34] <ScottK> LP seems to only want to show me the diff from one revision which really doesn't help.
[13:35] <Quintasan> ScottK: https://code.launchpad.net/~quintasan/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime-active-4.7/+merge/72893
[13:35] <Quintasan> I think that would help
[13:35] <ScottK> Thanks.
[13:36] <ScottK> Diff against target:	14053 lines (+13802/-0) 49 files modified (has conflicts)
[13:36] <ScottK> Seems a bit much.
[13:36] <Quintasan> :/
[13:36] <Quintasan> wtf
[13:36] <Quintasan> wrong branch
[13:39] <Quintasan> ScottK: https://code.launchpad.net/~quintasan/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime-active-4.7/+merge/72896
[13:39]  * ScottK tries again.
[13:40] <Quintasan> Y U NO DIFF
[13:40] <ScottK> Sigh.  An updated diff will be available in a few minutes. Reload to see the changes.
[13:40] <Quintasan> stupid launchpad
[13:40] <Quintasan> 14053 lines diff was generated right after push
[13:40] <Quintasan> brrr
[13:41] <bulldog98_> Quintasan: that one seemed more important to launchpad :)
[13:41] <Quintasan> ScottK: It works
[13:41] <ScottK> Got it.
[13:42] <Quintasan> ScottK: Actually, kde-workspace-data-active needs readjustment too
[13:43] <ScottK> OK.
[13:43] <Quintasan> I'm not sure if we actually want to ship this as data should be code indep
[13:43] <Quintasan> ScottK: ^ Thoughts on this?
[13:43] <ScottK> Why the removals from debian/kde-runtime-data.install, I thought that wouldn't be affected/.
[13:44] <Quintasan> Now I wonder...
[13:44] <Quintasan> Ah, it's activity manager
[13:45] <Quintasan> BRRRR
[13:45] <Quintasan> ScottK: me fixes
[13:45] <ScottK> Quintasan: In kde-runtime.install too
[13:46] <bulldog98_> Quintasan: why do we have splitted -data packages couldn’t be everything in one -data package?
[13:47] <Quintasan> bulldog98_: I was asking about that
[13:47] <Quintasan> ScottK: I think we can drop active-data
[13:47] <ScottK> OK.  Why?
[13:48] <bulldog98_> ScottK: makes archive smaller
[13:48] <ScottK> Are we not changing existing files there, just adding?
[13:48] <ScottK> bulldog98_: Doesn't make the CD smaller.
[13:48] <bulldog98_> ScottK: but it makes mirroring easier
[13:48] <Quintasan> ScottK: I do not think any of the patches touch desktop or protocol files
[13:49] <ScottK> I'm more worried about unintended effects of -active stuff in regular installs.
[13:49] <ScottK> Quintasan: Can you show me just that bit of the diff?
[13:49] <Quintasan> GOD DAMNIT
[13:49] <Quintasan> I removed the wrong merge request
[13:51] <ScottK> I made a local diff.
[13:52] <Quintasan> ScottK: I don't see any patch touching desktop files or .protocol there
[13:52] <Quintasan> and those are part of data
[13:52] <ScottK> Except for the activitymanager stuff being removed from the .install files, I think it's fine.
[13:52] <ScottK> In that case, drop the extra package.
[13:52] <ScottK> Quintasan: FFe approved after those cleanups.
[13:56] <ScottK> Quintasan: I also accepted the kde4libs binaries.
[13:57] <Quintasan> Oh great
[13:57] <ScottK> Quintasan: Please let the armel build of -workspace finish before you upload it again.
[13:57] <Quintasan> This one is going to take twice as long :P
[14:00] <Quintasan> ScottK: Final review please https://code.launchpad.net/~quintasan/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime-active-4.7/+merge/72899
[14:00] <Quintasan> ScottK: Before I merge
[14:12] <ScottK> Looking
[14:13] <ScottK> Quintasan: Don't need the -active transitional packages.
[14:15] <ScottK> Quintasan: Other than that, seems good.  Fix that, merge, and upload.
[14:47]  * ScottK looks over at Quintasan and wonders what he's waiting on for -runtime?
[16:06] <rbelem> ScottK, i can this latest change
[16:06] <rbelem> *do
[16:07] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: me audio is broken
[16:07] <shadeslayer> for some reason the test sounds work, but playing something in VLC doesn't work
[16:14] <ScottK> rbelem: Which?
[16:14] <ScottK> We need it uploaded to the archive, which you can't do (if you're referring to -runtime)
[16:16] <rbelem> ScottK, ah! ok
[16:26] <Quintasan> ScottK: Unexpected power outage sorry
[16:26] <ScottK> Quintasan: OK.  Stuff happens.
[16:26] <Quintasan> kdebase-runtime-active - to be dropped?
[16:26] <ScottK> And the dbg.
[16:27] <ScottK> Those never existed, right, so no transitional package needed.
[16:32] <Quintasan> ScottK: Is the ARM build done?
[16:32]  * ScottK checks, but that was a concern for -workspace, not runtime.
[16:33] <ScottK> No.  Not quite.https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/4:4.7.0-0ubuntu11/+build/2741832
[16:33] <Quintasan> Should I wait or should I upload?
[16:34] <Quintasan> Oh
[16:34] <Quintasan> -workspace
[16:34] <Quintasan> brrr
[16:34] <ScottK> Go ahead with -runtime.
[16:34]  * Quintasan testbuilds and uploads
[16:34] <Quintasan> I'll be offline for ~30minutes after upload since I will be installing Oneiric here
[16:38] <bambee> sweet baby jesus ! http://people.ubuntu.com/~bambi/omg.png
[16:38] <ScottK> apachelogger (or someone else with KDE git commit rights) would you please backport https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdeplasma-addons/repository/revisions/b3527f12ad9f577535d07e9614cfda9ef8131910/diff/applets/kdeobservatory/src/commithistoryview.cpp to 4.7?
[16:39] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Did you ever figure out kalzium?
[16:47] <Quintasan> ScottK: Uploaded
[16:47] <ScottK> Quintasan: Excellent.  Thanks to you and rbelem for the hard work.
[16:47] <Quintasan> ScottK: Can we get two more packages uploaded or it's impossible at this stage?
[16:47] <ScottK> What's that?
[16:48]  * ScottK haz powerz.  Nothing it impossible.
[16:48] <Quintasan> ScottK: share-like-connect and new plasma-mobile
[16:48] <ScottK> Yes.
[16:48] <Quintasan> Well
[16:48] <ScottK> Both need FFe, IIRC.
[16:49] <Quintasan> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-mobile/+bug/828093
[16:49] <Quintasan> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/828111
[16:50] <Quintasan> rbelem: ping
[16:51] <shadeslayer> ScottK: avogadro needs a rebuild iirc
[16:51] <shadeslayer> i'll try it out, hold on
[16:51] <ScottK> Thanks.
[16:51] <shadeslayer> and for no apparent reason all my audio started working
[16:51] <ScottK> Quintasan: Approved.
[16:52]  * Quintasan can't get his second monitor to work
[16:52] <ScottK> shadeslayer: As long as you aren't watching inappropriate content in a $WORK meeting, that's probably good.
[16:52] <shadeslayer> hahaha
[16:52] <shadeslayer> ScottK: nah, i'm at home
[16:52] <shadeslayer> ScottK: anything else you'd like me to work on?
[16:53] <shadeslayer> because, the report that was due tomorrow has been postponed by 2 weeks
[16:53] <shadeslayer> and my GSoC project is done as well
[16:53] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Can you test a k3b patch?
[16:54] <ScottK> http://paste.ubuntu.com/671830/
[16:54] <shadeslayer> ScottK: depends on what needs to be tested specifically
[16:54] <ScottK> I think if you use it to access .wma audio.
[16:54] <ScottK> I think that's what it uses libav/ffmpeg for.
[16:55] <ScottK> Feel free to dig around in the code and check.  I just checked Changelog
[16:55] <shadeslayer> aha, i might have a disk lying around .. somewhere
[16:56] <shadeslayer> ScottK: is that already packaged?
[16:56] <apachelogger> ScottK: picked
[16:56] <ScottK> shadeslayer: No.
[16:56] <ScottK> apachelogger: Thanks.
[16:56] <shadeslayer> ah hmm
[16:56] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: sometimes i think phonon is made of pure magic
[16:57] <apachelogger> did you forget how to read source code? :O
[16:57] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: nope, it starts/stops working randomnly 
[16:58] <ScottK> It's a computer.  At best it's pseudo random.
[16:58] <apachelogger> PEBCAK
[16:58] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yeah, right, i haven't touched a single radio button in the settings
[16:59]  * apachelogger points out that libraries have a greater scope than some setting in some random application
[16:59] <shadeslayer> random application being the phonon KCM :P
[16:59] <apachelogger> so?
[17:00] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: It's all pule
[17:00] <Quintasan> pulse*
[17:00] <Quintasan> blame pulse
[17:00] <shadeslayer> ok
[17:00]  * shadeslayer blames pulse
[17:00] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: did your flash sounds start working?
[17:01] <Quintasan> DOHOHOHOHOHOHO
[17:01] <Quintasan> Are you making fun of Flash?
[17:01] <Quintasan> Or PulseAudio?
[17:01] <shadeslayer> whichever you like :P
[17:01] <shadeslayer> interestingly ... Linux does not detect the CD Drive on the new macbook pro's ... :/
[17:02] <Quintasan> I wonder why my second monitor doesnt work
[17:03] <shadeslayer> Launchpad Builders : armel	12	 8786 jobs (12 days) 
[17:03] <shadeslayer> ahahahahahahaha
[17:03] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Archive rebuild test in progress.
[17:03] <shadeslayer> figures
[17:04] <ScottK> They get a low build score, so real uploads get priority.
[17:04] <shadeslayer> are we getting a aarrrrmmmm PPA?
[17:05] <Quintasan> lol
[17:06] <shadeslayer> hey HP, y u no get more stock
[17:06] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: that is what you get for using ultimate closed systems
[17:06] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: they'll get it working .... in another 2 releases :P
[17:07] <shadeslayer> and CD's are obsolete medium's anyway
[17:07] <apachelogger> not unlike hardware vendors that are fanbois of software patents
[17:17] <ScottK> Careful.
[17:17] <ScottK> If you call Apple a hardware vendor you misunderstand.
[17:17] <ScottK> They are a system vendor.
[17:17] <ScottK> Probably the only one.
[17:18] <ScottK> You'll end up underestimating them.
[17:26] <rbelem> Quintasan, pong
[17:26] <rbelem> :-D
[17:26] <rbelem> \o/
[17:26] <rbelem> Quintasan, ScottK, can we upload plasma-mobile and s-l-c?
[17:27] <ScottK> Yes.  If they are ready.
[17:28] <rbelem> ScottK, they are :-D
[17:28] <ScottK> OK.  Convince someone to upload so I can reviwe.
[17:28] <rbelem> ScottK, oki :-)
[17:39] <rbelem> Quintasan, i uploaded a more recent s-l-c to revu
[17:50] <rbelem> Quintasan, and plasma-mobile
[18:03] <shadeslayer> icecc question, if i have  build running on Machine A but the icecc scheduler on Machine B, does icecc still work?
[18:04] <shadeslayer> like, is machine B utilized at all?
[18:04] <ScottK> Yes
[18:05] <shadeslayer> hmm
[18:06] <Quintasan> rbelem: We can only know after I get new kdelibs in archive
[18:06] <Quintasan> ScottK: Any idea why do I have duplicate entries for every application in repos?
[18:06] <ScottK> Where and no?
[18:06] <rbelem> Quintasan, ScottK, will that take too long?
[18:07] <ScottK> Quintasan: BTW, -workspace on armel finished.
[18:07] <Quintasan> ScottK: Like, http://wstaw.org/m/2011/08/25/plasma-desktopjg1838.jpg
[18:07] <Quintasan> rbelem: No idea. Look at Launchpad kde4libs :P
[18:07] <Quintasan> ScottK: Great.
[18:08] <ScottK> No, but check to make sure sources.list isn't duplicated.  Otherwise quit using aptitude.
[18:08] <Quintasan> ScottK told me he accepted them so they should hit the mirror soon
[18:08] <rbelem> Quintasan, ScottK, how much time until freeze?
[18:08] <Quintasan> rbelem: ^
[18:09] <rbelem> nice :-)
[18:09] <ScottK> 2100 UTC
[18:09] <Quintasan> That's like 23:00 here
[18:09] <Quintasan> Hmm
[18:09] <Quintasan> Gotta hurry up
[18:10] <Quintasan> ScottK: At first I thought that's multiarch magic but that's looks too confusing to be multiarch
[18:10] <shadeslayer> ScottK: doesn't seem to be working
[18:10] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Which?
[18:11] <shadeslayer> ScottK: the machine which has the scheduler running has  no load
[18:11] <ScottK> Dunno then.
[18:12] <shadeslayer> the machine on which the build is running has a high load
[18:15]  * Quintasan waits till update completes
[18:17] <dantti> the virtual box ose on natty allows me to pick an usb device but when the machine is running it does not see it, and the usb devices  is greyed..
[18:17] <dantti> so the usb support still not available on the ose?
[18:17] <Quintasan> dantti: Apparently, what I do is share it via network :P
[18:18] <dantti> Quintasan: hmmm how?
[18:18] <Quintasan> dantti: Shared folders in VBox
[18:18] <Quintasan> That's a working feature AFAIK
[18:18] <dantti> right, but in my case it is not an mass storage
[18:18] <Quintasan> What it is?
[18:19] <dantti> it's a special printer
[18:19] <Quintasan> Oh, then you're out of luck it seems
[18:19] <dantti> can't be shared via cups tho
[18:19] <Quintasan> Did you try the closed source version?
[18:19] <dantti> I think I'll have to, as this printer only works on 32bits :(
[18:19] <Quintasan> Urgh
[18:19] <dantti> and I don't want to install a 32b os
[18:20]  * Quintasan wants debdelta in Ubuntu
[18:20] <dantti> and iirc ubuntu does not have 32 qt-devs 
[18:20] <Quintasan> dantti: Uhh, qt-devs?
[18:21] <Quintasan> I think multiarch hit one-eye-rick so some i386 libs should be there
[18:21] <dantti> libqt4-dev.. for 32bits on amd64
[18:21] <Quintasan> ScottK: ^ does multiarch allows such things?
[18:22]  * txwikinger agrees with Quintasan about debdelta
[18:22] <ScottK> In theory.
[18:22] <ScottK> Depends on if all the relevant libs have been multi-arched.
[18:22] <dantti> is multiarch available for ubuntu?
[18:22] <Quintasan> dantti: You can be the first one to try this :P
[18:22] <dantti> hehe
[18:22] <Quintasan> dantti: In oneiric it is :P
[18:22] <ScottK> dantti: Partly in Natty, more in Oneiric.
[18:23]  * dantti thinks
[18:23] <dantti> do I have to reinstall the os to use it or just enable some repos?
[18:26] <debfx> dantti: for usb to work you need to be in the vboxusers group
[18:27] <dantti> debfx: hmm thanks :)
[18:33] <shadeslayer> ScottK: debfx rebuild of avogadro does not fix build failiure
[18:35] <ScottK> shadeslayer: The soprano upload I just did may do it.
[18:35] <shadeslayer> alright :)
[19:01] <Quintasan> rbelem: status of kdelibs!
[19:02]  * Quintasan demands a report
[19:17]  * Quintasan whines
[19:17] <Quintasan> Y U TAKE SO LONG UPDATE?
[19:24] <rbelem> Quintasan, hum?
[19:25] <Quintasan> rbelem: Can you check whether kde4libs made it to oneiric?
[19:25] <Quintasan> rbelem: I dont have a proper browser now
[19:25] <rbelem> Quintasan, oki
[19:25] <rbelem> Quintasan, where do i find that? :-D
[19:26] <Quintasan> http://launchpad.net/ubuntu
[19:26] <Quintasan> packages
[19:26] <Quintasan> search for kde4libs
[19:26] <rbelem> Quintasan, nice :-) thx
[19:27] <rbelem> Quintasan, it is there :-D
[19:27] <Quintasan> What version?
[19:27] <Quintasan> See changelog if it's the one I've uploaded
[19:27] <rbelem> Quintasan, 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu3
[19:28] <rbelem> Quintasan, kde-runtime is there too 4:4.7.0a-0ubuntu2
[19:28] <rbelem> :-D
[19:30] <rbelem> Quintasan, did you see that i uploaded s-l-c and plasma-mobile?
[19:30] <Quintasan> to REVU?
[19:31] <rbelem> Quintasan, yup
[19:32] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Are you using btrfs?
[19:32] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: no
[19:33] <shadeslayer> why would i use a broken file system?
[19:33] <Quintasan> broken?
[19:33] <shadeslayer> yus
[19:33] <shadeslayer> i tried it once
[19:33] <Quintasan> What is broken exactly?
[19:34] <shadeslayer> booting  & fsck iirc
[19:34] <rbelem> shadeslayer, Quintasan, btrfs is really broken
[19:34] <shadeslayer> yeah
[19:34] <shadeslayer> iirc you need a seprate /boot partition
[19:34] <Quintasan> Good grief, and I used it on my /
[19:34] <shadeslayer> hah
[19:34]  * Quintasan reinstalls
[19:34] <Quintasan> See you in 30 minutes
[19:34] <shadeslayer> lolz :P
[19:35] <yofel> Quintasan: I'm using btrfs on / here
[19:35] <yofel> as long as you have backups it's ok
[19:35] <rbelem> :-D
[19:35] <yofel> and boot works unless you use LZO compression
[19:35] <yofel> and yeah - fsck is still WIP
[19:36] <yofel> rbelem: what's so broken about btrfs for you?
[19:37] <rbelem> yofel, i was using it a lot for kubuntu-mobile
[19:38] <rbelem> yofel, but every time my battery drained and the system turned off in a wrong i got to reinstall the images
[19:39] <yofel> ah yeah, if you get into a situation where you need fsck you're doomed currently..
[19:40] <rbelem> yofel, it is faster for flash disks but really unrealiable because of this fsck thing
[19:41] <yofel> true
[19:42] <rbelem> ScottK, apachelogger, Quintasan, shadeslayer, yofel, a friend lend me an ideapad s10-3t to test kubuntu-mobile :-D
[19:42] <yofel> :D
[19:42] <shadeslayer> cool!  :D
[19:43] <rbelem> he just brought it to me :-D
[19:43] <apachelogger> do we have packages yet? :P
[19:44] <rbelem> apachelogger, we already have kde4libs and kde-runtime
[19:44] <rbelem> apachelogger, Quintasan is taking care of slc and plasma-mobile
[19:44] <rbelem> apachelogger, i already uploaded them to revu
[19:45] <apachelogger> so we do not have them yet :P
[19:45] <rbelem> apachelogger, nope :'(
[19:46] <rbelem> Quintasan, are you taking a look on that?
[19:47] <rbelem> apachelogger, could you take a look on that if Quintasan can't?
[19:47] <rbelem> :-D
[19:47] <apachelogger> if super uber urgent
[19:47]  * apachelogger is all sorts of busy
[19:48] <rbelem> apachelogger, 21UTC is the deadline to get them in beta
[19:49] <apachelogger> today?
[19:49] <rbelem> apachelogger, yup
[19:49] <apachelogger> that sounds a bit... dangerous
[19:50] <rbelem> apachelogger, we have been testing these packages these days
[19:51] <apachelogger> so what do I need to do?
[19:52] <rbelem> apachelogger, upload and say to ScottK that is is ready for ffe
[19:54] <apachelogger> rbelem: in what branch is the packaging?
[19:55] <rbelem> apachelogger, slc is in revu
[19:55] <rbelem> apachelogger, and plasma-mobile
[19:55] <apachelogger> well, first we'd need libs and runtime
[19:55] <rbelem> apachelogger, they are ready
[19:57] <apachelogger> in what branch
[19:58] <rbelem> apachelogger, they are in repos already
[19:58] <apachelogger> oh
[19:58] <apachelogger> rbelem: you should make packaging branches for slc and pm btw
[19:58] <apachelogger> bambee: what is with touchegg?
[19:58] <apachelogger> Quintasan: looking at slc I am
[19:59] <rbelem> apachelogger, but i think i dont have rights to do that
[19:59] <apachelogger> oh
[19:59] <apachelogger> rbelem: if you are member then you should 
[19:59] <apachelogger> rbelem: share-like-connect_0.0+git20110825-0ubuntu1.tar.gz
[19:59] <apachelogger> I disapprove of it being a native package
[20:01] <apachelogger> rbelem: usr/include/activecontentservice/activecontent.h
[20:01] <apachelogger> usr/include/activecontentservice/activecontentservice.h
[20:01] <apachelogger> who needs those?
[20:01] <apachelogger> I think they should be neither installed nor packaged
[20:01] <apachelogger> usr/lib/libsharelikeconnect.so
[20:01] <apachelogger> WTH does this lib not have a soversion :O
[20:02] <rbelem> apachelogger, is that a lib?
[20:02] <apachelogger> well it is in lib
[20:02] <rbelem> apachelogger, maybe its a plugin
[20:02] <apachelogger> then it should not be in lib
[20:02] <apachelogger> kde4_add_library(sharelikeconnect SHARED ${sharelikeconnect_SRCS})
[20:02] <apachelogger> yeah
[20:02] <apachelogger> this cant go in
[20:03] <rbelem> apachelogger, so, is it a lib?
[20:03] <apachelogger> if they make a shared lib without so then they should install it to lib/sharelikeconnect or lib/kde4 or something
[20:03] <apachelogger> rbelem: yes
[20:03] <apachelogger> s/without so/without so version/
[20:03] <kubotu> apachelogger: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[20:03] <apachelogger> kubotu: I no
[20:03] <rbelem> :-D
[20:04] <rbelem> apachelogger, what do i need to do the get it ready, besides this so thing?
[20:07] <rbelem> apachelogger, how push things to https://code.launchpad.net/kubuntu-packaging work?
[20:10] <apachelogger> rbelem: bzr push lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/foobar
[20:10] <apachelogger> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/share-like-connect
[20:10] <apachelogger> revyd
[20:10] <apachelogger> revud
[20:11] <rbelem> apachelogger, will i push just the debian directory to lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/plasma-mobile?
[20:11] <apachelogger> yes
[20:11] <rbelem> apachelogger, nice :-)
[20:13] <rbelem> apachelogger, what is a native pkg? that .orig.tar.gz?
[20:14] <apachelogger> .orig.tar.gz is non-native
[20:15] <apachelogger> tar.gz is native
[20:15] <rbelem> ah ok
[20:15] <rbelem> :-)
[20:15] <apachelogger> also see debian/source/format
[20:15] <apachelogger> there you need to define
[20:15] <apachelogger> 3.0 (quilt)
[20:15] <apachelogger> ohoh
[20:15] <apachelogger> ./activecontentservice/activecontentservice_export.h: MIT/X11 (BSD like) 
[20:15] <rbelem> nice :-)
[20:15] <apachelogger> rbelem: that needs mentioning in the copyright file
[20:15] <rbelem> oh! that scaped my eyes
[20:16] <rbelem> :-/
[20:20] <apachelogger> cia doesnt like me
[20:21] <apachelogger> rbelem: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=share-like-connect.git&a=commit&h=13a3a49f21b58ab959134b85fc574a88aa9bc472
[20:22] <rbelem> :-D
[20:22] <rbelem> thx apachelogger 
[20:24] <apachelogger> rbelem: +  * Create the links plasma-tablet, plasma-contour that points to
[20:24] <apachelogger> +    plasma-mobile.
[20:24] <apachelogger> I do not get this?
[20:24] <apachelogger> plasma-tablet is a binary of its own!
[20:24] <rbelem> o.O
[20:24] <apachelogger> yes
[20:24] <apachelogger> it got split
[20:25] <apachelogger> also for mobile you need to pass some cmake option IIRC
[20:25] <apachelogger> might be that your snapshot does not have this yet though
[20:25] <apachelogger> in which case you should update your snapshot ^^
[20:26] <apachelogger> +	$(overridden_command) -- -DBUILD_HANDSET=TRUE
[20:26] <apachelogger> ah yeah
[20:27] <apachelogger> rbelem: maybe the builds are mutually exclusive?
[20:27] <apachelogger> either handest or tablet?
[20:28] <rbelem> apachelogger, nope
[20:28] <rbelem> apachelogger, BUILD_HANDSE just adds a dir to be built iirc
[20:33] <apachelogger> then your package is all wrong :P
[20:33] <apachelogger> you should get a plasma-tablet binary
[20:35] <Quintasan> What the fcks
[20:36] <Quintasan> Why am I getting double entries in apt for applications?
[20:41] <Quintasan> ScottK: Actually it's multiarch
[20:41] <Quintasan> :/
[20:42] <yofel> yep, multiarch will give you double entries, that's why I keep it disabled...
[20:43] <Quintasan> yofel: This makes multiarch shit and more confusing for the user
[20:43] <yofel> +1
[20:43] <Quintasan> yofel: Where do I disable this stupid crap?
[20:43] <yofel> no idea if the software center has any handling for this - aptitude sure doesn't
[20:43] <yofel> Quintasan: /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg
[20:44] <yofel> the foreign-architecture part
[20:45] <rbelem> apachelogger, i'm fixing that
[20:49] <bambee> apachelogger: don't compute your question
[20:50] <apachelogger> overload overload overload
[20:50] <apachelogger> what was my question
[20:50] <apachelogger> ah
[20:50] <apachelogger> right
[20:50] <bambee> o.O
[20:50] <apachelogger> bambee: touchegg on revu?
[20:50] <apachelogger> does it go to archive?
[20:50] <apachelogger> when does it go to archive?
[20:50] <apachelogger> does it haz FFe?
[20:50] <bambee> apachelogger: touchegg has been uploaded to archive
[20:50] <Quintasan> apachelogger: It's already there
[20:51] <Quintasan> Late as always
[20:51] <bambee> apachelogger: FFe: done, archive:done
[20:51] <Quintasan> apachelogger: You could upload s-l-c and plasma-mobile though
[20:51]  * Quintasan just insalled oneiric and is fighting with multiarch madness
[20:51] <apachelogger> bambee: why is the entry not archived then -.-
[20:51] <yofel> hm...
[20:52] <apachelogger> Quintasan: they do not qualify
[20:52] <yofel> JontheEchidna: how does muon handle multiarch?
[20:52] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: You're in deep shit, good luck with multiarch
[20:52] <Quintasan> bug 831768
[20:52] <apachelogger> bambee: who uploaded the touchegg?
[20:52] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I did
[20:52] <apachelogger> bambee: did you also patckage touchegg-gui?
[20:52] <apachelogger> Quintasan: when you upload something from revu you should archive the entry on revu
[20:52] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I see, sorry for that
[20:52] <apachelogger> or the revu mainpage becomes a mess
[20:57]  * Quintasan sorrows over JontheEchidna's fate
[20:58] <Quintasan> lol
[20:58] <Quintasan> It's not a verb, is it?
[20:59] <bambee> Quintasan: an entry ?
[20:59] <Quintasan> bambee: What?
[20:59] <bambee> "when you upload something from revu you should archive the entry on revu" <--- what is it ?
[20:59] <Quintasan> bambee: The package you submit to REVU has it's own entry
[21:00] <bambee> oh
[21:02] <apachelogger> 27 warnings \o/
[21:02] <Quintasan> apachelogger: On what?
[21:03] <apachelogger> oh, I should have gone to bed ages ago
[21:03] <apachelogger> oh dear
[21:03] <apachelogger> Quintasan: pornon vlc
[21:03] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Can you upload s-l-c and plasma-mobile?
[21:03] <Quintasan> it's the only thing left and I still dont have a working install
[21:03] <apachelogger> Quintasan: <apachelogger> Quintasan: they do not qualify
[21:03] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Why is that?
[21:04] <apachelogger> see revu
[21:05] <Quintasan> rbelem: ^^
[21:09] <rbelem> Quintasan, /me fixing that :-)
[21:09] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Is broken jockey in oneiric a known issue?
[21:10] <yofel> meh, and I'm still getting 'invalid package name' from debsums on every update :/
[21:11] <apachelogger> Quintasan: I dunno, I haz no oneiric
[21:11] <apachelogger> ask pitti
[21:14] <charlie-tca> Quintasan: this should be affecting everybody - bug 831754
[21:14] <Quintasan> charlie-tca: Brrr, thanks for info
[21:14] <charlie-tca> yw
[21:14] <Quintasan> Bugs, bugs everywhere!
[21:16] <yofel> bug 809924
[21:17] <Quintasan> oneiric will be the most broken release :P
[21:19] <ScottK> You obviously didn't use Jaunty.
[21:19] <ScottK> Or Edgy.
[21:20] <charlie-tca> yeah, I am thinking edgy
[21:20] <charlie-tca> Oneiric alphas have actually acted like an alpha release, that's all
[21:20] <bambee> are you ready to review touchegg-gui ? :D
[21:21] <bambee> (I'm late... sorry... o_O)
[21:21] <bambee> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/touchegg-gui
[21:22] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: yofel: Do you have sound in oneeyerick?
[21:22] <bambee> can we still ask FFe?
[21:22] <Quintasan> ScottK: ^
[21:22] <Quintasan> bambee: File a bug and link it to ScottK
[21:22] <ScottK> You can ask.
[21:22] <bambee> ok
[21:22] <ScottK> Quintasan: Review the package is ready to go first.
[21:23]  * yofel has sound
[21:24] <yofel> Quintasan: sure phonon uses a sound device you have something connected to?
[21:24] <Quintasan> Yest
[21:24] <yofel> ScottK: can you take a glance at digikam in ninjas? I would like to have that looked at first before filing an FFe
[21:25] <Quintasan> yofel: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/08/25/plasma-desktopzY2047.jpg
[21:25] <Quintasan> sup
[21:25] <ScottK> yofel: Does it build and use only system libraries?
[21:25] <yofel> blame pulse then
[21:25] <yofel> ScottK: it builds and uses those system libraries that we have. It ships 3 libs itself that never had a release so far
[21:26] <ScottK> Quintasan: Check your kmix and make sure it didn't decide to mute itself.
[21:26] <yofel> stuff from extragear
[21:26] <ScottK> yofel: Then I say ship it.
[21:26] <Quintasan> ScottK: It did no
[21:26] <yofel> ScottK: one problem is that I had to disable gphoto2 to get it build
[21:26] <ScottK> Why?
[21:26] <yofel> DSO linking error that I can't fix
[21:27] <yofel> the linker flag is in the command line at the only place it makes sense IMO - and it still fails
[21:27] <bambee> bug 834149
[21:27] <ScottK> OK. I'd say go for it.
[21:29] <ScottK> Nice.
[21:29] <ScottK> /usr/include/c++/4.6/bits/locale_facets.tcc:703:56: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
[21:29] <yofel> ...
[21:32] <rbelem> Quintasan, apachelogger, i just uploaded slc to revu
[21:39] <Quintasan> rbelem: version should have a +repack suffix (i.e. 0.0+git1234+repack) to show that we have add something to the canonical upstream source
[21:40] <rbelem> Quintasan, apachelogger just commited upstream the copying file
[21:40] <Quintasan> Ah
[21:40] <Quintasan> I see
[21:41] <Quintasan> rbelem: Ack on s-l-c
[21:42]  * Quintasan goes to bed
[21:42] <Quintasan> Good night
[21:42] <rbelem> Quintasan, could you fix plasma-mobile? im going home, so it will take one hour more or less
[21:43]  * bambee is watching "Fringe" and goes to bed after this episode
[21:48] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Can you commit the licensing magic to plasma-mobile?
[21:49] <Quintasan> apachelogger: BRRRR
[21:50] <Quintasan> /usr/share/common-licenses/LGPL-2 /usr/share/common-licenses/LGPL-2.1 and /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-2
[21:53] <Quintasan> ScottK: Do you have commit powers in KDE land?
[21:53] <ScottK> Quintasan: I do not.
[21:53] <Quintasan> grr
[21:54] <ScottK> JontheEchidna does, however.
[21:54] <Quintasan> apachelogger is unresponsive as usual
[21:54] <ScottK> JontheEchidna is also more likely to be sober.
[21:54] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: Are you on the warship?
[21:54] <yofel> Quintasan: me gots commit rights
[21:54] <Quintasan> yofel: \o/
[21:54] <Quintasan> yofel: http://paste.kde.org/114361
[21:55] <Quintasan> yofel: Could you possibly commit those licenses to the plasma-mobile branch?
[21:55] <yofel> lol, nice workaround ^^
[21:56] <Quintasan> yofel: Let me know when done
[21:56] <Quintasan> yofel: Do you happen to know how to issue get-orig-source only from rules?
[21:57] <yofel> ./debian/rules get-orig-source
[21:57] <yofel> should work
[21:57]  * Quintasan demands licenses upstream
[21:57] <Quintasan> :P
[21:59] <Quintasan> ScottK: Is FFe for plasma-mobile approved?
[21:59] <ScottK> Yes
[21:59] <Quintasan> ScottK: I'll upload after fixing stuff mentioned by apachelogger
[21:59] <ScottK> Great.
[21:59] <Quintasan> yofel: Can has review of http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/touchegg-gui?
[22:00] <yofel> Quintasan: are that _really_ all licenses?
[22:00] <Quintasan> yofel: Looks like it
[22:01] <yofel> true
[22:01] <Quintasan> yofel: commit nao
[22:02]  * Quintasan has his index finger over the enter button
[22:02] <yofel> y'know...
[22:02] <yofel> if I do something wrong people will be angry at me, not you :P
[22:03] <Quintasan> Give em my email then :P
[22:06] <yofel> http://commits.kde.org/plasma-mobile/db13db1a27f42644c29ca98d598bc6d07d9a9b35
[22:07]  * Quintasan hugs yofel
[22:08] <yofel> http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=plasma-mobile.git&a=commit&h=26b202e0f8340b304e5b15e95332ee1778a69d4e rather...
[22:08] <yofel> git is odd
[22:10] <Riddell> I've always said so
[22:13] <Quintasan> Riddell: I was looking at changelog for apt, what that bzr merge is supposed to do?
[22:13]  * Quintasan couldn't understand that
[22:14] <Riddell> Quintasan: what what bzr merge?
[22:14] <Quintasan> lp:~jr/ubuntu/oneiric/apt/bzr-get-rename
[22:15] <Quintasan> yofel: KDE/Activities/ResourceInstance is part of what?
[22:15] <Quintasan> kdelibs or runtime?
[22:16] <yofel> kdelibs trunk
[22:16] <yofel> $ dpkg -S KDE/Activities/ResourceInstance
[22:16] <yofel> project-neon-kdelibs: /opt/project-neon/include/KDE/Activities/ResourceInstance
[22:16] <Quintasan> k
[22:16]  * Quintasan makes that kdelibs5-experimental-dev then
[22:17] <Quintasan> GRR
[22:17] <Quintasan> yofel: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lnepomukdatamanagement
[22:17] <Quintasan> any ideas?
[22:17] <yofel> are you sure it's installed?
[22:17] <Quintasan> root@nightwalker:~/plasma-mobile-0.0~svngit20110826# apt-get install kdelibs5-experimental-dev
[22:17] <Quintasan> Reading package lists... Done
[22:17] <Quintasan> Building dependency tree       
[22:17] <Quintasan> Reading state information... Done
[22:17] <Quintasan> kdelibs5-experimental-dev is already the newest version.
[22:17] <Quintasan> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 28 not upgraded.
[22:17] <Quintasan> Looks like it is
[22:18] <yofel> odd, after I just installed it: kdelibs5-experimental-dev: /usr/include/KDE/Activities/ResourceInstance
[22:18] <yofel> nepomukdatamanagement is from runtime though
[22:18] <Quintasan> Ohgod
[22:22] <Quintasan> What the...
[22:23] <Quintasan> yofel: http://paste.kde.org/114367
[22:23] <Quintasan> Somehow it ends up depending on kde-runtime
[22:24] <Quintasan> Which is not possible to satify
[22:27] <Quintasan> This is madness
[22:28] <Quintasan> yofel: Any ideas?
[22:28] <yofel> lolwhut? kde-runtime-active depends on kde-runtime?
[22:29] <yofel> Quintasan: don't you double build the whole thing?
[22:29] <Quintasan> I do
[22:29] <Quintasan> yofel: look in bzr
[22:29] <yofel> get me the full build log - I'm confused...
[22:30] <Quintasan> yofel: buildlog of what? runtime or plasma-mobile?
[22:31] <yofel> wait, *what* fails with missing libnepomukdatamanagment?
[22:31] <Quintasan> yofel: plasma-mobile
[22:31] <Quintasan> and kde-runtime-active SOMEHOW depends on kde-runtime
[22:32] <Quintasan> Don't ask me how; none of the deps have rdep on runtime
[22:32] <yofel> uh, wait until I'm done with the digikam FFE
[22:34] <Quintasan> oh my god
[22:34] <Quintasan> I see
[22:35] <Quintasan> plasma-mobile has to depend on kde-runtime-active
[22:35] <Quintasan> but -runtime is broken
[22:40] <Quintasan> Riddell: Do you have any idea what in http://paste.kde.org/114373/ could make it depend on -runtime?
[22:40]  * Quintasan has no idea
[22:41] <Riddell> Quintasan: I don't understand
[22:41] <Riddell> it is kde-runtime
[22:42] <Quintasan> kde-runtime-active
[22:42] <Quintasan> and it conflicts with kde-runtime because they both have the same files but they were compiled with different set of patches
[22:42] <Quintasan> and somehow
[22:42] <Quintasan> kde-runtime-active ended up depending of kde-runtime
[22:44] <yofel> AAAAARGGGHHH...
[22:44] <yofel> *headdesk*
[22:44] <yofel> I totally forgot that digikam needs a MIR for opencv 
[22:46] <Riddell> Quintasan: I'd guess there's some magic to make everything KDE depend on kde-runtime (as there was in previous releases to make everything depend on oxygen-icons and kdebase-runtime-data)
[22:48] <Riddell> Quintasan: in kdelibs 4.6 debian/rules I see  DEB_DH_MAKESHLIBS_ARGS_libkdecore5 := -V'libkdecore5 (>= $(UPSTREAMVERSION)), $(RUNTIME_DEPS)'
[22:48] <Riddell> where RUNTIME_DEPS is kdebase-runtime
[22:48] <Riddell> so I expect there's something equivalent in 4.7
[22:50] <Quintasan> Riddell: Nope :<
[22:50] <Quintasan> # remove dependencies on kde-runtime and phonon (the metapackage)
[22:50] <Quintasan> $(overridden_command) -- -xkde-runtime -xphonon
[22:50] <Quintasan> That actually gets rid of dependency
[22:51] <Riddell> libkdecore5.symbols:| libkdecore5 #MINVER#, kde-runtime
[22:51] <Riddell> that adds it back
[22:51] <Quintasan> :/
[22:51] <Riddell> so I guess change that to  kde-runtime | kde-runtime-active
[22:52] <Riddell> but test it works first, it may not
[22:52] <Quintasan> I do not think ScottK will allow that to be uploaded
[22:52] <Riddell> why not?
[22:52] <Quintasan> Or wait
[22:52] <Quintasan> Let me try it
[22:53] <Quintasan> Nope, actually not
[22:53] <Quintasan> yofel: Can you try it later?
[22:54] <yofel> uh... I first need to figure out if opencv meets the MIR requirements
[22:54] <yofel> ask me like tomorrow
[22:55] <Riddell> yofel: nope https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opencv/+bug/324523
[22:55] <Quintasan> yofel: Okay, here is the deal
[22:55] <Quintasan> I have uploaded plasma-mobile to revu
[22:56] <yofel> Riddell: great, then we need to demote digikam to universe. opencv is required by libkface which is required by digikam
[22:56] <Quintasan> It will be okay to upload when we got runtime fixed
[22:56] <Quintasan> To get runtime fixed we probably need some changes to libs :/
[22:56]  * Quintasan has to go to Krakow tomorrow and will be available for two hours in the morning only
[22:57] <Quintasan> Riddell: Thanks, I'll try this magic in the morning if I have some time
[22:57] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Get to work ^^^^^^
[22:57] <Riddell> yofel: do check that the issue still exists (using v4l without using libv4l)
[22:58] <yofel> doing that now
[23:09] <yofel> hm, I totally don't get the code, but the buildlog says "--     V4L/V4L2:                  Using libv4l" so I hope it does what it says...
[23:09] <vista_killer> hi
[23:10] <vista_killer> is any change compiz to work great in this release with kubuntu?
[23:11] <yofel> *sigh*, the warnings that kees complained about still aren't fixed though :/
[23:21] <bambee_> night
[23:27] <yofel> someone else take a look at opencv too, I'm off to bed