[00:59] <KM0201> how would you change the "shutdown" icon in your lxde theme?
[02:58] <j0hndoe> Problem: How do I change an individual program's icon? For example the LxTerminal, I went to accessories>right click>properties>change icon, pick the one I want saw it changes click OK, but when I go back to do step one, its like the same thing, nothing changes... ??
[02:59] <Unit193> sudo nano /usr/share/applications/lxterminal.desktop and change icon from there
[02:59] <Unit193> May want to back it up first ;)
[03:00] <j0hndoe> how do I back up stuff? what do i back up. sry im new to this things.
[03:01] <Unit193> sudo cp /usr/share/applications/lxterminal.desktop /usr/share/applications/lxterminal.desktop.backup
[03:02] <j0hndoe> ty, all this commands that you tell me i got it save on a linux_commands.odt file for future reference :>
[03:03] <Unit193> You can also gksudo leafpad to have a GUI text editor
[03:03] <Unit193> !sudo
[03:10] <j0hndoe> ok i did both commands, the gksudo one i got leafpad open but its blank,  the sudo nano open up terminal with command stuff but idk which or how to edit it
[03:11] <Unit193> Pagedown 'til you see icon=lxterminal
[03:15] <j0hndoe> found it, how do I change it to something I want?  when I do the GUI version the name of the icon is 'terminal' or other names but same looking icons, should I change lxterminal to those name?
[03:17] <Unit193> Well, you can try, but it might be easier to just to find it with locate
[03:17] <j0hndoe> how do i do that
[03:18] <Unit193> locate terminal.{png,jpg,whatever the extension is :P)
[03:18] <j0hndoe> once i do that how do i save it? i dont see save option in the terminal
[03:19] <Unit193> ctrl+o
[03:19] <Unit193> then xtrl+x
[03:22] <j0hndoe> what button is M-A  it means append
[03:22] <j0hndoe> that's after i press ctrl+o
[03:23] <Unit193> Just hit enter
[03:23] <j0hndoe> hehehehe it work
[03:23] <j0hndoe> ty Unit193
[03:24] <Unit193> You're welcome!
[03:24] <Unit193> Did you get your grub sorted?
[03:24] <jmarsden> j0hndoe: If everything is correctly configured, M-A means hold down the Meta key and press A.  On PC keyboards the left Alt key is usually configured to be the Meta key, so M-A probably means Alt-A on a 'normal' PC keyboard.
[03:25] <j0hndoe> jmarsden: thnx for the tip.
[03:25] <j0hndoe> Unit193: not yet
[03:25] <jmarsden> j0hndoe: You're welcome.
[03:26] <KM0201> how do i add shutdown button back to the panel.. I accidentally deleted it, and can't change it back.
[03:26] <Unit193> j0hndoe: Ask jmarsden, he's quite good at this (If he has the time as he's a dev)
[03:26] <j0hndoe> KM0201 you might have to reset the whole panel, as a last resort.
[03:27] <KM0201> j0hndoe: whats the command ot do that?
[03:27] <KM0201> i'm willing to try that
[03:27] <j0hndoe> i think you delete some file or folder, then relog
[03:27] <jmarsden> KM0201: I've heard that question asked before, but I don't remember the answer.  Is it in the FAQ already?
[03:27] <KM0201> jmarsden: i didn't look at the FAQ yet... didn't seem like something that would be there.
[03:27] <KM0201> i have to leave, i'll be back in 15min....
[03:28] <KM0201> if you think of anything, id appreciate the advice.
[03:28] <jmarsden> KM0201: Always check the FAQ before asking a question, that's what it exists for :)  OK.
[03:28] <Unit193> Don't you just delete ~/.config/lxpanel/ ?
[03:28] <j0hndoe> ya i think that's the one to reset the panel
[03:31] <j0hndoe> jmarsden i got another dillema with puppy-linux 5.2.8 it wont get detected by grub2, i tried os-prober and update-grub but it still isn't working,
[03:32] <j0hndoe> sudo blkid shows this /dev/sda3: UUID="8e0b4d89-244d-4662-8b15-02a5f82520f0" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3"
[03:32] <j0hndoe> /dev/sda1: UUID="b652aef8-b567-412f-be51-d0a16bc0a69e" TYPE="ext4"
[03:32] <j0hndoe> /dev/sda5: UUID="0e6a102a-7cb2-406e-b002-63fe08c6e126" TYPE="swap"
[03:33] <jmarsden> j0hndoe: Worst case, create a custom grub entry by hand in /etc/grub.d/40_custom for Puppy.
[03:34] <jmarsden> All the "detection" stuff is just trying to automate writing grub entries... so if it fails, write the entry yourself instead.
[03:35] <bioterror> it would be easier with legacy grub ;)
[03:37] <j0hndoe> jmarsden, ok ill try that.
[03:37] <jmarsden> bioterror: Probably, but then you're creating a very custom setup and you'd better know exactly what your'e doing, or you risk losing ability to boot Lubuntu as well as Puppy etc.
[03:37] <j0hndoe> bioterror, isn't grub2 better than the legacy grub ?
[03:37] <bioterror> j0hndoe, depends from who you ask
[03:38] <bioterror> if you need GUID, you have no option ;)
[03:38] <KM0201> jmarsden: i know how ot read an FAQ....
[03:38] <jmarsden> KM0201: Cool, when you get an answer, add your question and its answer to it then :)
[03:39] <KM0201> jmarsden: naa.. i don't do that
[03:39] <jmarsden> You do it you want to actually contribute back to the community...
[03:39] <KM0201> jmarsden: some people contribute in other ways, i don't edit FAQ's, etc..
[03:40] <KM0201> brb
[03:40] <bioterror> what would happen if we all would contribute by keeping things to ourself
[03:40] <Pegasus_RPG> is there a netboot lubuntu image?
[03:41] <jmarsden> Pegasus_RPG: Not officially, and not any that I know of unofficially either.
[03:41] <Pegasus_RPG> using the standard ubuntu one causes it to download a bunch of different packages, causing lots of cache misses for me
[03:41] <bioterror> Pegasus_RPG, you mean PXE?
[03:41] <Pegasus_RPG> bioterror: yes
[03:43] <bioterror> Pegasus_RPG, I have not tried to boot lubuntu from PXE
[03:43] <bioterror> wish I had energy and time
[03:43] <Pegasus_RPG> I'm currently using ubuntu's standard image then I'll do apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[03:43] <bioterror> buut mini.iso ;)
[03:44] <bioterror> boot
[03:44] <Pegasus_RPG> but I would like a more direct way :)
[03:44] <KM0201> well, that didn't work
[03:46] <Pegasus_RPG> bioterror: should it just be a matter of dropping lubuntu's initrd.gz and linux files onto the PXE serveR?
[03:46] <bioterror> lubuntu uses same initrd's and kernels as ubuntu
[03:47] <Pegasus_RPG> so what's different? the preseeds?
[03:48] <bioterror> difference is what it starts to load after them ;)
[03:48] <bioterror> instead of gdm it runs lxdm which runs openbox and then lxde stuff
[03:52] <Pegasus_RPG> bbl
[04:02] <KM0201> well crap, now i lost nm-applet
[04:11] <KM0201> well, igot my shutdown button back, but i lost my freaking networking applet.
[04:14] <jmarsden> KM0201: If you want to learn a little, restore the config folder from backup to an alternate location, diff it with what you have now, then based on that, create a fully working folder of config info that does what you need with both the shutdown button and the nm-applet.
[04:14] <KM0201> jmarsden: i restored my backup.. .. but for some reason my neworking applet didn't come back.
[04:15] <KM0201> i backed it up before i reset it...
[04:15] <KM0201> but resetting it didn't work anyway, i just got a blank panel
[04:16] <jmarsden> well, if you are giving up on fixing it, you can try something more radical like     apt-get purge lxpanel, reboot, apt-get install lxpanel (but I make no guarantees it will work for you!)
[04:16] <KM0201> ..
[04:17] <KM0201> no, i understand, this just shouldn't be that difficult really.
[04:17] <KM0201> if i had networking before i started this, and i restored my old config, i should have a panel.
[04:17] <KM0201> basically like a new install.
[04:17] <KM0201> i'll try your way though
[04:18] <KM0201> brb
[04:24] <KM0201> jmarsden: that basically worked...   purge the panel, delete ~/.config/lxpanel   then reinstall lxpanel (yes you have to delete the .config folder.. don't know why it wasn't removed by purge)
[04:25] <jmarsden> Ok, good.
[06:48] <polux> hello all
[06:59] <polux> Phillw : thank you for your help Lubuntu is configured is Good
[07:00] <bioterror> phillw says you're welcome ;)
[16:20] <silverarrow> hi
[16:20] <silverarrow> will gnome player ever be equipped to play dowloaded youtube videos?
[16:21] <hyperair> it can.
[16:21] <hyperair> already.
[16:21] <hyperair> wait a sec
[16:21] <hyperair> we're talking about gnome mplayer right?
[16:22] <silverarrow> yes, the default in lubuntu
[16:22] <silverarrow> it's pretty good, I like it
[16:22] <hyperair> yah
[16:22] <hyperair> yeah*
[16:22] <silverarrow> I have downloaded two or three videos from youtube it will not play
[16:22] <hyperair> it does support playing flv files.
[16:23] <hyperair> presumably your downloaded videos are flvs, right?
[16:25] <silverarrow> hmm, I'm not shore
[16:25] <silverarrow> in documents they end with .flv
[16:26] <silverarrow> I have just copied directly from youtube, and  used youtube-dl form terminal
[16:30] <hyperair> youtube-dl, right? could you give me a sample link?
[16:30] <hyperair> i think some videos might come as mp4
[16:32] <silverarrow> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTnHa8Ug05o
[16:34] <silverarrow> random example, I am downloading too just to check
[16:34] <silverarrow> I get the same with 3-4 videos I have dowloaded
[16:35] <silverarrow> about 3 I downloaded a few days ago play
[16:36] <bioterror> lower resolution cames as.flv and higher like 720p and 1080p as mp
[16:36] <bioterror> mp4
[16:36] <silverarrow> I see
[16:37] <silverarrow> I must admit, I didn't pay much attention to resolution
[16:39] <silverarrow> it looks like I downlaoded in low resolution
[16:42] <silverarrow> all documents I downloaded end with .flv
[16:42] <silverarrow> and will not play
[16:55] <hyperair> hmm youtube-dl doesn't even work for me for that address.
[17:21] <silverarrow> it works here hyperair
[17:21] <silverarrow> weird
[17:24] <silverarrow> hyperair, old version of youtube-dl?
[17:33] <KM0201> i use greasemonkey w/ youtube downloader script, to download YT (standard dev, mp4's or flv's.. so it may not meet your needs)
[17:38] <hyperair> silverarrow: what version of youtube-dl do you have?
[17:39] <silverarrow> VLC media player 1.2.0-git Twoflower
[17:39] <silverarrow> I opened in terminal
[17:40] <hyperair> ._.
[17:41] <hyperair> wait wait, i thought you said youtube-dl.
[17:41] <hyperair> not vlc.
[17:41] <hyperair> =_="
[17:41] <hyperair> nevermind, i just installed oneiric youtube-dl and it works.
[17:49] <silverarrow> oh sorry, I am making a mess here
[17:49] <silverarrow> i really don't know about youtube-dl, it only opens in terminal and nothing to check?
[17:53] <hyperair> silverarrow: aha, it downloads webm format
[17:53] <hyperair> not flv.
[17:53] <hyperair> hmm
[17:53] <hyperair> but mplayer works with webm!
[17:54] <silverarrow> not here
[17:54] <silverarrow> though gnomeplaye works with everything else
[17:54] <hyperair> can you try running "mplayer blahblah.webm" in a terminal and see whatit says?
[17:55] <silverarrow> blahblah?
[17:56] <silverarrow> weird
[17:56] <hyperair> change the blahblah to the name of the file of course >_>
[17:56] <hyperair> it does save a webm file, right?
[17:57] <silverarrow> hyperair, to no result ?
[17:57] <hyperair> if not, can you run "file filename.flv"?
[17:57] <hyperair> ..
[17:58] <silverarrow> file filename.flv
[17:58] <silverarrow> file filename.flv
[17:58] <silverarrow> filename.flv: ERROR: cannot open `filename.flv' (No such file or directory)
[17:58] <silverarrow> sorry
[18:23] <silverarrow> how do I add libvlccore5 from package manager?
[19:14] <silverarrow> any way about streaming downloaded youtube videos?
[19:14] <silverarrow> vlc is majorly acting up
[21:46] <Pegasus_RPG> Hi again. I'm trying to netboot the lubuntu installer now. What I've done so far is put initrd.lz, vmlinuz, and the .seed file on the TFTP server and made a SYSLINUX menu entry that loads those using the command line from the .cfg file on the USB stick
[21:46] <gentoo_drummer> anyone here?
[21:46] <Pegasus_RPG> but I get "no init found"
[21:46] <gentoo_drummer> just wondering how I can edit the rc.xml for keybinds on lubuntu
[21:46] <gentoo_drummer> is it just doing the same thing as openbox?
[21:47] <Pegasus_RPG> gentoo_drummer: lubuntu uses LXDE so maybe search the web for that
[21:47]  * Pegasus_RPG is new here too
[21:48] <gentoo_drummer> Pegasus_RPG, ye, but lxde also includes openbox?
[21:48] <Pegasus_RPG> i don't know
[21:48] <Pegasus_RPG> if so, sure, give it a try ^_^
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> just to show off http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/Images/Desktop.png
[22:30] <Pegasus_RPG> ActionParsnip: haha nice. Running on a less-than-minimal system I see?
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> not so minimal, just libreoffice added
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> 3.1Gb installed. 229Mb RAM used
[22:32] <KM0201> lol, slick
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> Size 40 lxpanel, then used imagemagic to stretch and monochrome the image to theme it
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> the rest is stock
[22:44] <KM0201> http://imagebin.org/169673
[22:44] <KM0201> mine is boring.. :)
[22:49] <KM0201> ah, no, it has 5.... only short1.
[23:48] <Pegasus_RPG> How can I change the login screen background in Lubuntu?