[01:41] <hermelin> dear folks, could anyone help with my intel 2200BG on a dell notebook running lucid
[01:43] <holstein> hermelin: whats the issue?
[01:45] <holstein> doesnt look good for that card
[01:45] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1526303
[01:45] <hermelin> iwlist lists the networks, i want to connect to a wpa(1|2) ap configured in /etc/network/interfaces
[01:46] <holstein> hermelin: you could try the windows driver with ndiswrapper
[01:46] <hermelin> yep, got a good url=
[01:46] <hermelin> ?
[01:46] <holstein> for?
[01:46] <holstein> the windows driver?
[01:46] <hermelin> ndiswrapper
[01:46] <holstein> hermelin: what unit is it?
[01:47] <holstein> hermelin: sudo apt-get install ndisgtk
[01:47] <holstein> assuming you can wire up for a moment
[01:47] <hermelin> lspci says: 03:03.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection (rev 05)
[01:49] <hermelin> but... i want it user independent... had bad experience witch network-manager et al
[01:49] <holstein> not sure what you are talking about there
[01:49] <holstein> ndisgtk is the GUI front end to ndiswrapper
[01:49] <holstein> you can use it to point to, and hopefully use the windows driver for your card
[01:50] <holstein> then, whatever user setup you have in place stands
[01:50] <hermelin> i'll try
[01:50] <holstein> no reason to *not* use network manager
[01:50] <holstein> you can try wicd if you dont like it
[01:51] <holstein> not sure anyone will be much help adding a wireless connection to /etc/network/interfaces
[01:52] <hermelin> it always worked with:
[01:53] <hermelin> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[01:53] <hermelin> 	wireless-mode auto
[01:53] <hermelin> 	wireless-essid whatever
[01:53] <holstein> it?
[01:53] <holstein> the device?
[01:53] <holstein> so, whats the issue?
[01:53] <holstein> it stopped working after an upgrade?
[01:54] <holstein> or did you change your security type on the router?
[01:56] <hermelin> new lucid install, wpa(1|2) network, just checking out ndisgtk
[02:00] <holstein> hermelin: so what do you mean by 'it always worked with' ??
[02:00] <holstein> you mean in past versions of ubuntu?
[02:01] <hermelin> aaaahm.... ... not sure, i think i was karmic
[02:02] <holstein> hermelin: you might still have the live install media somewhere
[02:02] <holstein> you could run that, and look and see what kernel is running
[02:02] <hermelin> yeah, netboot!
[02:02] <holstein> try and see what driver is being used
[02:03] <hermelin> give me a minute
[02:11] <hermelin> waaaah, tried to download the windows driver, unfortunatly only got a DellDriverDownloadManager.application xml file
[02:12] <holstein> hermelin: i would go to the unit manufacturer site
[02:12] <holstein> like dell inspiron 3250 whatever....
[02:12] <hermelin> yep... dell
[02:13] <holstein> hermelin: right... im implying you should try and download the driver from the dell site, not the intel one
[02:13] <hermelin> :( thats what i meant
[02:13] <holstein> hermelin: if you'd like to share with me the model #, and can try my luck
[02:14] <hermelin> on the back it says model#: pp15l
[02:15] <holstein> hermelin: this is what im looking for
[02:15] <holstein> for example, im using an asus eeepc 1001p
[02:15] <holstein> so, you have a latitude?
[02:15] <hermelin> but i only got DellDriverDownloadManager.application xml files that i shall download/install within the .NET %&%"
[02:16] <holstein> hermelin: is it a latittude?
[02:18] <hermelin> think so... part of the frontplane is missing, thats where the common (model) name usally is written on ( i think)... lol... sorry guy, dont want to bother you
[02:19] <holstein> hermelin: its no bother... im just not able to help you find the driver without knowing what it is
[02:20] <hermelin> as far as i see the picture according to http://www.google.ch/search?q=dell+pp15l its a latiude
[02:21] <holstein> yeah, thats where i made it
[02:21] <hermelin> i only have to get the *.inf file of the wireless driver, right?
[02:22] <holstein> but that doesnt get us a driver
[02:22] <holstein> hermelin: right (in theory)
[02:22] <hermelin> does xp|7 matter?
[02:22] <holstein> maybe
[02:22] <holstein> thats that?
[02:23] <hermelin> thats what?
[02:24] <holstein> hermelin: maybe try intel then
[02:26] <hermelin> well, on the dell homepage i only get xml files i cant do anything with... on the linux desktop im writing from
[02:27] <holstein> hermelin: right... im not finding that model in the downloads area at dell
[02:27] <holstein> hermelin: i suggest try searching at intel
[02:29]  * hermelin ist groaning
[02:30] <hermelin> usally i dont have to care about notebooks, the dell site only gets me files like http://www.pastedump.com/paste/1726 , trying intel after getting a beer
[02:31] <hermelin> thx anyway for the attention guys :)
[02:33] <holstein> hermelin: i feel pretty confident if we knew what to search for we could get an .exe file, or .zip
[02:35] <hermelin> by the way, there arent lot of people concerd about .exe and .zip files in #ubunutu-beginners?!
[02:35]  * hermelin excuses
[02:36] <holstein> ?
[02:36] <holstein> apparently they arent concerned about them at dell
[02:39] <hermelin> mmmh, landed on http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/ (but) it says: Note: The iwlwifi driver has been merged into mainline kernel since 2.6.24. If you are using kernels after this release, please use the intree (drivers/net/wireless/iwlwifi) driver directly.
[02:40] <hermelin> and: ~# uname -a
[02:40] <hermelin> Linux obsidian-laptop 2.6.32-33-generic #72-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 29 21:08:37 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:40] <holstein> you should have support for intel hardware when support is possible
[02:40] <holstein> at least thats been my findings
[02:40] <holstein> it literally wont hurt anything to try a windows driver
[02:41] <hermelin> !
[02:47] <hermelin> uuuhh, finally got a .zip file install 2 .inf file via ndisgtk and on of it says "hardware available", made a reboot
[02:49] <holstein> sounds about right
[02:49] <holstein> do you have a network manager?
[02:50] <hermelin> worse luck!
[02:50] <holstein> worse than?
[02:50] <holstein> like, it wasnt working? and now its less that not working?
[02:50] <hermelin> i try to avoding network manager
[02:51] <GTRsdk> which package provides mono csc or al?
[02:51] <holstein> hermelin: right, the application 'network manger'
[02:51] <holstein> but, do you have any network manager?
[02:51] <holstein> such as wicd ?
[02:52] <hermelin> uuuh, its called just network manager in ubuntu lucid and i hate it cause it seems to be very userlevel specific
[02:53] <holstein> hermelin: right, thats the application that manages the network connections by default
[02:53] <holstein> there are others
[02:53] <holstein> if you have one you should be able to tell if you are able to utilize that windows driver
[02:53] <holstein> if you dont like 'network manager' you might like wicd
[02:53] <holstein> !wicd
[02:53] <ubot2> Factoid 'wicd' not found
[02:53] <GTRsdk> what isn't working?
[02:53] <holstein> :/
[02:54] <GTRsdk> a wi-fi card?
[02:54] <holstein> GTRsdk: all i could do is apt-cache search mono :/
[02:54] <holstein> GTRsdk: its complex... i'll let hermelin share it with you :)
[02:54] <holstein> m
[02:54] <holstein> im out...
[02:54] <holstein> GN all :)
[02:55] <GTRsdk> holstein, for the mono csc or al question, I am looking for the package in Oneiric.
[02:55] <GTRsdk> hermelin, what isn't working?
[02:55] <hermelin> standby... killed eth0 (=cable) and change the room to the notebook, but the gdm/X11/Alt-F1 didnt came up
[02:59] <GTRsdk> hermelin, I have had that problem too.
[02:59] <GTRsdk> My solution was a reboot
[03:03] <javatexan> hey all, my IT staff at work took away my Ubuntu
[03:04] <javatexan> :(
[03:07] <javatexan> they have made a policy that all machines must run PGP whole disk encryption which only works in like ubuntu 8.....  LOL!  They said it was because there was no way to see if all the ubuntu machines had whole disk encryption installed, configured, and running.  I assume if I could show them such a centralized tool for ubuntu, they would give it back to me....  Any ideas?
[03:12] <GTRsdk> javatexan, just use encryptfs?
[03:12] <GTRsdk> !info encryptfs
[03:13] <javatexan> I wish it was that easy, the part I think that is the kicker is the centralized server that spits out the report saying that all ubuntu machines are encrypted.
[03:14] <Unit193> ubot2: info encryptfs
[03:14] <ubot2> Unit193: Package encryptfs does not exist in maverick
[03:14] <javatexan> I was last on ubuntu 11.04
[03:15] <Unit193> Yeah, bot is bugged
[03:15] <hermelin> javatexan, how does the centralized server know he's talking to a legit machine?
[03:17] <javatexan> exactly my point to them, but on windows you use the AD and in Mac you use OpenD, i think to check that.
[03:18] <javatexan> isn't is landscape or something that helps admin Ubuntu machines
[03:23] <hermelin> holstein, it looks kind a' great, the wlan interface is now called wlan0 (not eth1 anymore) and it accepted the wpa2 key, but the machine got stuck after a few minutes, so i had to hard reboot it 4 times so far
[03:24] <hermelin> holstein, i m no sure wheter its the machine or myself ( localtime 5:45 am CEST )    ;
[03:46] <ermine> holstein, the machine doesnt come up again... might roar back again, have a nice day and good bye
[04:50] <r4y> Hello, I compiled torrentzip and for some reason I have to use sudo for it to run properly
[04:52] <r4y> I was told that I shouldn't have to run sudo for torrentzip to work.
[04:52] <urlin2u> by who
[04:52] <r4y> I can't remember
[04:53] <urlin2u> could you be mistaken seems like it would need it, not familiar with it though
[04:53] <r4y> http://sourceforge.net/projects/trrntzip/files/
[04:53] <r4y> I wouldn't know.
[04:54] <r4y> Well, I guess I should know exactly, because I have had it running without sudo before.
[04:54] <urlin2u> The goal of the program is to use standard values when creating zips to create identical files over multiple systems.
[04:55] <urlin2u> not sure really mysek=lf
[04:55] <urlin2u> myself
[04:55] <r4y> The Debian version has to have sudo to run on Ubuntu, but the source version I had working without sudo before, so I don't know why I am having this problem
[04:59] <f15hy> Hi, I hope this is the right room to help. Im a complete and total novice installing Ubuntu for the first time on an older PC. After installing and first boot, my screen goes to the Ubuntu loading screen (logo is in the middle and dots are under it) and nothing happins. I've installed via ISO DVD dozens of times trying to fix this, and have been lurking on forums all day. the only thing close to the problem im having that i can find is 
[05:05] <f15hy> Please a little help... the frozen load screen mocks me...
[08:07] <crtlinx> Hi, I am trying to set the external DVI-0 laptop screen to 1280x1024 and now the maximum value I can select is 1024x768, I am new and I don't know where to get started
[18:55] <ForSpareParts> Hey, guys. Can anybody help with a black screen problem on Natty?
[18:56] <ForSpareParts> Happened after I yanked the DVI cable while the system was running -- stupid, I guess, but I assumed it would handle it as well as windows does
[18:56] <ForSpareParts> Now I get the splash on boot, but after that, nothing.
[19:04] <ForSpareParts> black screen help, anybody?
[19:04] <philipballew> hey1
[19:04] <philipballew> !
[19:04] <philipballew> ForSpareParts,
[19:04] <philipballew> when grub boots you could try recovery mode and fail safe graphics maybe
[19:04] <ForSpareParts> Did that.
[19:05] <philipballew> what exactly did you do
[19:05] <ForSpareParts> I got to the recover/reset dialog, and told it to reset my graphics settings back to the defaults
[19:05] <ForSpareParts> It may also help you to know (and please don't kill me) that I'm using the proprietary drivers. The open source drivers don't work with my card...
[19:07] <philipballew> no worries.
[19:07] <philipballew> i have those on my desktop
[19:09] <ForSpareParts> I'm glad to hear that. You should've seen the shitstorm it touched off when I tried to ask about those drivers on a Fedora channel...
[19:09] <ForSpareParts> (I've been bouncing between distros a bit)
[19:10] <ForSpareParts> Do you have any other ideas, though? I'm sort of freaked out, and I'm obviously a bit of a linux noob
[19:11] <pleia2> ForSpareParts: well, it does sound like the driver went a bit crazy (I've never seen anything like this happen before, I unplug my monitors while my systems are running all the time...)
[19:11] <pleia2> (and please watch your language here :))
[19:11] <ForSpareParts> pleia2 Sorry, my bad.
[19:12] <ForSpareParts> I was thinking maybe I should reinstall the driver, but I'm not even 100% sure how to DO that
[19:12] <ForSpareParts> I got it from the AMD website and executed the .run file, instead of grabbing it from Ubuntu's built-in package management
[19:12] <ForSpareParts> Because I wanted the most up-to-date stuff...
[19:13] <philipballew> more up to date means more bugs
[19:13] <ForSpareParts> Hmm
[19:13] <ForSpareParts> I guess so, yeah.
[19:13] <ForSpareParts> There is another issue, though
[19:13] <pleia2> ForSpareParts: when you boot up can you hit: ctrl alt f3
[19:14] <pleia2> if it's a problem with x it should bring you to a terminal login
[19:14] <pleia2> from there you could run the .run file again
[19:14] <ForSpareParts> I'm hoping to use the card for distributed computing and I think I need the newer drivers to use the Stream SDK or whatever AMD is calling it these days...
[19:14] <ForSpareParts> pleia2: ok.
[19:15] <ForSpareParts> if I just run the file again, it'll reinstall everything </complete noob>
[19:15] <ForSpareParts> ?
[19:15] <pleia2> I'm not familiar with how that file works, sorry (I use the packaged drivers)
[19:15] <ForSpareParts> OK
[19:16] <ForSpareParts> well, I'll give it a shot. I actually don't have access to the machine right now, I'm sitting in my CS lab, but I'll try that when I get home. Thank you guys for your help!
[19:18] <philipballew> if he had ssh and wol enabled he could work on it from anywhere in the world
[19:19] <pleia2> ssh server isn't installed by default
[19:23] <philipballew> it would be nice if during a default install they had a package selection option
[20:05] <WillowMouse> hey, can any of you guys help me out? I'm having some trouble updating my video card
[20:11] <philipballew> updating in what way?
[20:13] <WillowMouse> wellI tried to install Regnum, right
[20:13] <WillowMouse> and It said my video card was too old, so I set off to find the proper drivers for it.
[20:13] <WillowMouse> I tried following this guide
[20:13] <WillowMouse> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Install-Nvidia-and-ATI-video-drivers-on-Ubuntu-Edgy-44388.shtml
[20:14] <WillowMouse> but I can't find software sources where they're saying it is.
[20:16] <philipballew> are you running ubuntu edggy?
[20:17] <WillowMouse> no
[20:17] <WillowMouse> I'm running maverick
[20:17] <WillowMouse> I think that's what's confusing me
[20:17] <WillowMouse> is the difference in versions
[20:18] <WillowMouse> I'm gonna try and find another guid
[20:18] <WillowMouse> guide
[20:18] <philipballew> well heres my advice
[20:18] <philipballew> look at the aditional drivers section and also see if you might jusr need a better card
[20:25] <WillowMouse> o.o
[20:25] <WillowMouse> nvm
[20:25] <WillowMouse> I summoned a wizard to fix it
[20:35] <philipballew> ...
[20:56] <cautes> hi all
[21:21] <bognog> what is best ftp server to use
[21:22] <bognog> hello
[22:00] <acesofsky> how to install a rpm package in ubuntu?
[22:01] <philipballew> alian can sometimes
[22:03] <acesofsky> alian?
[22:04] <pleia2> alien
[22:04] <pleia2> it converts rpms into debs, but it's not very reliable
[22:04] <philipballew> yeah, its software. whats the software you need to install
[22:05] <philipballew> you can probably compile it
[22:07] <acesofsky> yeah that will be better option.. will try to get source thanks philip
[22:08] <philipballew> okay. if you need help compiling someone here can probably do that
[22:17] <acesofsky> one quick question, where can i ask questions related to system porgramming
[22:17] <acesofsky> is there any forum or developers mailing list
[22:29] <philipballew> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[22:29] <philipballew> there's the list