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mbrigdanAnybody?00:22
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charlie-tca!away | otubo[AFK]02:22
ubot4otubo[AFK]: Please do not use noisy away messages and nicks in Ubuntu channels. It is annoying and unnecessary. Use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently. See also Ā«/msg ubottu GuidelinesĀ»02:22
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decoderthere's still a memory leak in nm-applet :( just killed it again with 140 MB of memory used11:26
decodertakes very long though to accumulate11:26
AlanBellbug 739812 is listed as affecting unity (ubuntu natty) how do I add oneiric to it?11:36
ubot4Launchpad bug 739812 in unity (Ubuntu Natty) (and 2 other projects) "Must use hardware keyboard to perform search for applications in Unity (affects: 8) (heat: 56)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73981211:36
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penguin42don't know - it's not obvious is it11:48
AlanBellyeah, not sure if it is because I lack rights to target a release or if I just don't know what I am doing11:53
jibelAlanBell, this action requires specific rights. I nominated it for O.12:04
jibelAlanBell, importance is medium but I think it should be High12:05
jibelAlanBell, what's you take on that ?12:06
AlanBellI think it should be high12:07
AlanBellit is "A bug which impacts accessibility of a core application" and probably meets some of the other criteria for high https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance12:10
AlanBellit is a bit of a blocker for a good touchscreen tablet experience with 3d unity12:11
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ashamsHello Guys, I need your opinion here: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/16915714:32
hggdhashams: can you please expand on what it is intended to? I am not sure, reading the question15:02
ashamshggdh: Hi, thanks for reading :)15:03
ashamshggdh: the story that I've noticed that we're not doing enough work on forwarding bugs upstream15:03
ashamshggdh: so I decided to research on how to enhance our procedures to do so.15:04
ashamshggdh: one of these problems was, that upstream related tags are quite a lot.15:05
ashamshggdh: and it can't be easily used to find this type of bugs15:05
ashamshggdh: so I was thinking of creating one *generic* tag that can be easily searched for, and then a bug triager can forward, or do whatever to a bug.15:06
ashamshggdh: of course beside other tags, to describe special cases.15:07
ashamshggdh: So?15:07
hggdhI do understand you. But there are other rules for the game that also imply upstreaming15:14
hggdhI am not saying your idea is good, or bad, or whatever. I am just being the usual devil's advocate15:15
hggdhthe point is not all bugs are upstreamble. Some are related to UBuntu packaging, or to a local patch (that upstream refuses)15:15
hggdhso no matter what, you need to work on a specific bug and determine if it is a local issue (i.e., Ubuntu-related) or not; then if it is a real issue, or -- say -- lack of reading the manual (or even lack of _a_ manual)15:17
hggdh_if_ you decide it is upstreamable, you can either upstream it yourself immediately or, for example, open a placeholder upstream task (and mark the bug comfirmed, _not_ triaged)15:18
hggdhso, what does a tag bring that would make it more efficient?15:19
hggdhashams: ^15:19
ashamshggdh: it can be efficient if someone decided to work on this criteria(Forwarding Bugs) just to speed up development of many packages...15:22
hggdhashams: one usually selects a specific source package to work on; then all bugs that are not triaged are fair game (since all are potential real bugs, and potentially in need of upstreaming)15:24
hggdhashams: the point is, for one to add such a tag to a bug, one first of all needs to *know* it has to be upstreamed. So, adding a placeholder upstream task (or actually upstreaming it then) is more effective than adding a new tag15:28
ashamshggdh: I was thinking of that process as not all bug triagers have time(or like) to forward bugs, so it was just to give someone else a way to focus on this.15:33
ashamsI was thinking of splitting the long process into pieces, triagging, forwarding, instead of leaving it as a big one, thus it may look like a big task to bug triagers.15:33
bdmurraypedro_: as you write these patterns are you unsubb'ing ubuntu-bug-control from the bugs?15:34
ashamshggdh: no matter if I'm currently adopted some pkg15:34
pedro_bdmurray, oh no, i was just removing the tag, will unsubscribe the bugcontrol team as well15:36
bdmurraypedro_: great, I'll look and see if there is a tool for that15:36
pedro_bdmurray, thanks for the heads up15:36
charlie-tcaLooking for someone that will confirm bug 83386215:46
ubot4Launchpad bug 833862 in onboard (Ubuntu) "Onboard Keyboard should have a menu entry for Xubuntu/Xfce (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83386215:46
hggdhpedro_: shouldn't bug 832533 be milestoned?15:46
ubot4Launchpad bug 832533 in gvfs (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 2 other projects) "gvfs-fuse-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_create_instance() (affects: 151) (dups: 29) (heat: 490)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83253315:46
hggdhand my compiz died a horrible death. Again.15:47
charlie-tcalooks to me like it should be milestoned, yes.15:47
hggdhashams: sorry, my system barfed... so reboot, submit a new bug, etc, etc15:59
ashamshggdh: np, hope it works fine now :)16:00
hggdhno, not yet...16:02
pedro_agg this alt+tab of unity is driving me crazy :-/16:03
pedro_hggdh, i've milestoned it , thanks ;-)16:03
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ashamshggdh: reported it, if so would you give a link to that bug, I'm curious :)16:15
hggdhashams: bug 833879, but we have to wait for the backtracer to work16:16
ubot4hggdh: Bug 833879 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/833879 is private16:16
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mbrigdanHey! I'm going to report a bug about ubuntu ignoring module blacklists, but I'm not sure which package to file it against. update-initramfs ignores the blacklist, so I could file it against that, but other blacklisted modules that update-initramfs isn't adding are also getting loaded, implying that the problem is elsewhere. Any advice?18:40
hggdhmbrigdan: probably against module-init-tools18:57
mbrigdanhggdh, Its not just in the initramfs though. Modules that aren't loaded into it are still somehow being loaded, even though they're blacklisted.18:58
hggdhmbrigdan: I am not sure I follow you. I suggested module-init-tools because this is the package that deals with blacklisting19:02
hggdhI did not say anything about initramfs...19:03
mbrigdanOh, it does all the blacklisting, not just for update-initramfs?19:03
mbrigdanThe init part just confused me19:03
mbrigdanI'll go with that then19:04
hggdhthis is the owner of the directories and the modules maintenance19:04
mbrigdanalright, thanks19:04
hggdhyou are welcome19:04
penguin42yofel: Can you have a look at bug 833737 - I think you said that you had problems with nautilus starting in KDE22:27
ubot4Launchpad bug 833737 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "No way to remove entries from ksmserverrc (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83373722:27
yofelk, busy filing a FFe for digikam, I'll have a look later22:28
penguin42yofel: Ok, out of interest what's the digikam issue22:29
yofelwell, trying to get digikam 2.0.0 into the archive which would make the geolocation support work again, which needs a FeatureFreezeException22:30
penguin42but we would be going from a beta/pre-release to the final thing which sounds like a good idea anyway22:31
bdmurrayI'll plus one that FFE ;-)22:32
yofel^^22:32
* penguin42 gently wonders if that would also cure the black on dark grey text....22:33
penguin42for some reason this 1.9.x doesn't feel intuitive for me - I can't quite pin it down though22:35

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