| mbrigdan | Anybody? | 00:22 |
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| charlie-tca | !away | otubo[AFK] | 02:22 |
| ubot4 | otubo[AFK]: Please do not use noisy away messages and nicks in Ubuntu channels. It is annoying and unnecessary. Use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently. See also «/msg ubottu Guidelines» | 02:22 |
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| decoder | there's still a memory leak in nm-applet :( just killed it again with 140 MB of memory used | 11:26 |
| decoder | takes very long though to accumulate | 11:26 |
| AlanBell | bug 739812 is listed as affecting unity (ubuntu natty) how do I add oneiric to it? | 11:36 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 739812 in unity (Ubuntu Natty) (and 2 other projects) "Must use hardware keyboard to perform search for applications in Unity (affects: 8) (heat: 56)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/739812 | 11:36 |
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| penguin42 | don't know - it's not obvious is it | 11:48 |
| AlanBell | yeah, not sure if it is because I lack rights to target a release or if I just don't know what I am doing | 11:53 |
| jibel | AlanBell, this action requires specific rights. I nominated it for O. | 12:04 |
| jibel | AlanBell, importance is medium but I think it should be High | 12:05 |
| jibel | AlanBell, what's you take on that ? | 12:06 |
| AlanBell | I think it should be high | 12:07 |
| AlanBell | it is "A bug which impacts accessibility of a core application" and probably meets some of the other criteria for high https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance | 12:10 |
| AlanBell | it is a bit of a blocker for a good touchscreen tablet experience with 3d unity | 12:11 |
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| ashams | Hello Guys, I need your opinion here: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/169157 | 14:32 |
| hggdh | ashams: can you please expand on what it is intended to? I am not sure, reading the question | 15:02 |
| ashams | hggdh: Hi, thanks for reading :) | 15:03 |
| ashams | hggdh: the story that I've noticed that we're not doing enough work on forwarding bugs upstream | 15:03 |
| ashams | hggdh: so I decided to research on how to enhance our procedures to do so. | 15:04 |
| ashams | hggdh: one of these problems was, that upstream related tags are quite a lot. | 15:05 |
| ashams | hggdh: and it can't be easily used to find this type of bugs | 15:05 |
| ashams | hggdh: so I was thinking of creating one *generic* tag that can be easily searched for, and then a bug triager can forward, or do whatever to a bug. | 15:06 |
| ashams | hggdh: of course beside other tags, to describe special cases. | 15:07 |
| ashams | hggdh: So? | 15:07 |
| hggdh | I do understand you. But there are other rules for the game that also imply upstreaming | 15:14 |
| hggdh | I am not saying your idea is good, or bad, or whatever. I am just being the usual devil's advocate | 15:15 |
| hggdh | the point is not all bugs are upstreamble. Some are related to UBuntu packaging, or to a local patch (that upstream refuses) | 15:15 |
| hggdh | so no matter what, you need to work on a specific bug and determine if it is a local issue (i.e., Ubuntu-related) or not; then if it is a real issue, or -- say -- lack of reading the manual (or even lack of _a_ manual) | 15:17 |
| hggdh | _if_ you decide it is upstreamable, you can either upstream it yourself immediately or, for example, open a placeholder upstream task (and mark the bug comfirmed, _not_ triaged) | 15:18 |
| hggdh | so, what does a tag bring that would make it more efficient? | 15:19 |
| hggdh | ashams: ^ | 15:19 |
| ashams | hggdh: it can be efficient if someone decided to work on this criteria(Forwarding Bugs) just to speed up development of many packages... | 15:22 |
| hggdh | ashams: one usually selects a specific source package to work on; then all bugs that are not triaged are fair game (since all are potential real bugs, and potentially in need of upstreaming) | 15:24 |
| hggdh | ashams: the point is, for one to add such a tag to a bug, one first of all needs to *know* it has to be upstreamed. So, adding a placeholder upstream task (or actually upstreaming it then) is more effective than adding a new tag | 15:28 |
| ashams | hggdh: I was thinking of that process as not all bug triagers have time(or like) to forward bugs, so it was just to give someone else a way to focus on this. | 15:33 |
| ashams | I was thinking of splitting the long process into pieces, triagging, forwarding, instead of leaving it as a big one, thus it may look like a big task to bug triagers. | 15:33 |
| bdmurray | pedro_: as you write these patterns are you unsubb'ing ubuntu-bug-control from the bugs? | 15:34 |
| ashams | hggdh: no matter if I'm currently adopted some pkg | 15:34 |
| pedro_ | bdmurray, oh no, i was just removing the tag, will unsubscribe the bugcontrol team as well | 15:36 |
| bdmurray | pedro_: great, I'll look and see if there is a tool for that | 15:36 |
| pedro_ | bdmurray, thanks for the heads up | 15:36 |
| charlie-tca | Looking for someone that will confirm bug 833862 | 15:46 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 833862 in onboard (Ubuntu) "Onboard Keyboard should have a menu entry for Xubuntu/Xfce (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/833862 | 15:46 |
| hggdh | pedro_: shouldn't bug 832533 be milestoned? | 15:46 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 832533 in gvfs (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 2 other projects) "gvfs-fuse-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_create_instance() (affects: 151) (dups: 29) (heat: 490)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/832533 | 15:46 |
| hggdh | and my compiz died a horrible death. Again. | 15:47 |
| charlie-tca | looks to me like it should be milestoned, yes. | 15:47 |
| hggdh | ashams: sorry, my system barfed... so reboot, submit a new bug, etc, etc | 15:59 |
| ashams | hggdh: np, hope it works fine now :) | 16:00 |
| hggdh | no, not yet... | 16:02 |
| pedro_ | agg this alt+tab of unity is driving me crazy :-/ | 16:03 |
| pedro_ | hggdh, i've milestoned it , thanks ;-) | 16:03 |
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| ashams | hggdh: reported it, if so would you give a link to that bug, I'm curious :) | 16:15 |
| hggdh | ashams: bug 833879, but we have to wait for the backtracer to work | 16:16 |
| ubot4 | hggdh: Bug 833879 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/833879 is private | 16:16 |
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| mbrigdan | Hey! I'm going to report a bug about ubuntu ignoring module blacklists, but I'm not sure which package to file it against. update-initramfs ignores the blacklist, so I could file it against that, but other blacklisted modules that update-initramfs isn't adding are also getting loaded, implying that the problem is elsewhere. Any advice? | 18:40 |
| hggdh | mbrigdan: probably against module-init-tools | 18:57 |
| mbrigdan | hggdh, Its not just in the initramfs though. Modules that aren't loaded into it are still somehow being loaded, even though they're blacklisted. | 18:58 |
| hggdh | mbrigdan: I am not sure I follow you. I suggested module-init-tools because this is the package that deals with blacklisting | 19:02 |
| hggdh | I did not say anything about initramfs... | 19:03 |
| mbrigdan | Oh, it does all the blacklisting, not just for update-initramfs? | 19:03 |
| mbrigdan | The init part just confused me | 19:03 |
| mbrigdan | I'll go with that then | 19:04 |
| hggdh | this is the owner of the directories and the modules maintenance | 19:04 |
| mbrigdan | alright, thanks | 19:04 |
| hggdh | you are welcome | 19:04 |
| penguin42 | yofel: Can you have a look at bug 833737 - I think you said that you had problems with nautilus starting in KDE | 22:27 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 833737 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "No way to remove entries from ksmserverrc (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/833737 | 22:27 |
| yofel | k, busy filing a FFe for digikam, I'll have a look later | 22:28 |
| penguin42 | yofel: Ok, out of interest what's the digikam issue | 22:29 |
| yofel | well, trying to get digikam 2.0.0 into the archive which would make the geolocation support work again, which needs a FeatureFreezeException | 22:30 |
| penguin42 | but we would be going from a beta/pre-release to the final thing which sounds like a good idea anyway | 22:31 |
| bdmurray | I'll plus one that FFE ;-) | 22:32 |
| yofel | ^^ | 22:32 |
| * penguin42 gently wonders if that would also cure the black on dark grey text.... | 22:33 | |
| penguin42 | for some reason this 1.9.x doesn't feel intuitive for me - I can't quite pin it down though | 22:35 |
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