[04:47] <nigelb> jono: hi, still around?
[04:48] <jono> nigelb, hey
[04:48] <jono> yup, but about to grab dinner
[04:48] <jono> whats up?
[04:49] <nigelb> jono: I was looking to find who all were the track leads at last UDS
[04:49] <nigelb> I only remember you and pete :)
[04:50] <jono> nigelb, why do you need to know?
[04:50] <jono> I can't quite remember myself
[04:50] <nigelb> oh, lol.
[04:51] <nigelb> I wanted to get in touch with track leads to hear out their frustrations about summit
[04:51] <jono> oh gotcha
[04:52] <jono> nigelb, http://uds.ubuntu.com/tracks/
[04:52] <jono> they are still there
[04:52] <nigelb> jono: \o/ thanks!
[04:52] <nigelb> (sorry, I shoulda looked)
[04:52] <jono> np
[04:53] <jono> grabbing dinner, back soon :-)
[04:53] <jono> thanks for all your hard work nigelb :-)
[06:38] <nigelb> head_victim: Congrats! \o/
[06:38]  * nigelb took some time to process who Jared Norris wwas
[06:39] <pleia2> admittedly... me too :)
[06:39] <pleia2> but yay head_victim!
[06:40] <pleia2> but I had to look at everyone's wikis and launchpad pages anyway
[06:46] <ejat> head_victim : Congrats !
[06:53] <nigelb> head_victim: also, are you in .za?
[07:20] <dholbach> good morning
[07:59] <kim0> Morning
[08:05] <dholbach> hum, could it be that enigmail does not work in oneiric? at least I can't find any configuration options
[08:07] <head_victim> Thank you all. Again more reason to change this 15 year old nick name :)
[08:26] <head_victim> nigelb: in AU
[08:56] <nigelb> head_victim: ah!
[08:56] <head_victim> nigelb: same general area, just a bit further around
[08:56] <nigelb> head_victim: lol
[09:22] <akgraner> Good Morning!   - Yay, School starts back today...:-)
[09:26] <nigelb> akgraner: Good...morning?
[09:26] <nigelb> Isn't like really early morning?
[09:29] <akgraner> yep - I have to leave the house at 7am - ever tired to get a teenage daughter out the door in under 2 hours - Impossible...
[09:41] <nigelb> akgraner: heh :)
[09:41] <nigelb> akgraner: but I thought waking them up would also be impossible ;)
[09:42] <akgraner> nigelb, nah they like breakfast too much not to get up...
[09:42] <akgraner> and the kitchen here only stays open for requests when I am in it.
[09:44] <nigelb> hehe
[09:44] <popey> blimey, school starts early for you lot!
[09:44] <popey> ours dont go back until mid september
[10:22] <akgraner> popey, wow...but when does school end there?  We start early to account for inclement weather days - that they will be out of school. :-/
[10:27] <popey> akgraner: my kids broke up on 14th July
[10:27] <popey> so they get about 8 weeks off
[10:27] <nigelb> that'slate.
[10:27] <nigelb> err, that's late.
[10:28] <popey> its early in the UK
[10:28] <popey> most schools break up later than that
[10:28] <nigelb> so, when I was in school
[10:28] <nigelb> Our term started in July
[10:28] <nigelb> (officially)
[10:28] <nigelb> But senior students had school start in May.
[10:28] <nigelb> we got like 4 weeks of vacation.
[10:28] <popey> heh
[10:28] <popey> ours go September -> December, Jan -> July
[10:29] <nigelb> How long is christmas holidays?
[10:30] <akgraner> Catch you all in a few hours - in case you missed it - Ubuntu Friendly will need some feedback and SCALE10 Call for Papers is now open...check out the planet for more info..:-)
[10:30] <nigelb> \o/
[10:31] <popey> 2 weeks nigelb
[10:31] <popey> actually, 3 for kids
[10:32] <popey> i think ☺
[10:32] <nigelb> gah
[10:32] <nigelb> I had like 1 week
[10:32] <nigelb> and exams all around
[10:32]  * nigelb now dislikes his school
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[10:51] <daker> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cmwdotme/iemu-an-open-source-ios-device-emulator
[12:18] <dpm_> hi AlanBell, would you be up for another "hello world in python" session or the like for UADW? - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek/Timetable
[12:19]  * AlanBell checks diary
[12:21] <AlanBell> can't do wednesday or thursday
[12:21] <AlanBell> if you can schedule it monday/tuesday then yes
[12:22] <dpm_> AlanBell, cool. We've got several slots on Tuesday. Does any of them work for you? - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek/Timetable
[12:23] <AlanBell> 19:00 or 20:00
[12:26] <dpm_> AlanBell, does that look good to you then? -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek/Timetable
[12:29] <AlanBell> yup
[12:33] <dpm_> thanks AlanBell!
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[13:43] <dpm_> doctormo, are you around? Would you fancy running a session on ground control for this cycle's Ubuntu App Developer Week?
[14:33] <scott-work> doctormo: ping
[14:35] <nigelb> heh, everyone wants doctormo :P
[14:36] <scott-work> i have been trying to catch him for a few days to ask if he has any experience with a newish (for me) wacom driver
[15:05] <jono> kim0, all set?
[15:06] <kim0> jono: um .. please give me a min
[15:06] <jono> kim0, were you not expecting this call?
[15:06] <kim0> yes
[15:07] <kim0> as in not expecting
[15:07] <jono> cool
[15:07] <jono> oh
[15:07] <jono> I thought we rearranged
[15:07] <jono> no worries
[15:07] <jono> kim0, lets talk tomorrow
[15:07] <kim0> ok that works too
[15:07] <jono> I want to process the mail you sent me overnight anyway
[15:07] <jono> dpm_, hey
[15:07] <kim0> Yeah .. was about to ping you for it
[15:08] <jono> thanks kim0
[15:08] <kim0> so today or tomorrow are fine for me .. whatever suits you
[15:08] <dpm_> hi jono
[15:08] <jono> dpm_, mind if we have a quick catch up call in a few mins?
[15:08] <dpm_> jono, sure, I was going to ping you about it, can you give me 5?
[15:09] <jono> dpm_, no worries, doing an upgrade now anyway and then will be ready
[15:09] <dpm_> cool, thanks
[15:16] <dpm_> hey jono, all set for a catch up now
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[15:16] <jono> dpm_, will just be one min, filing a bug
[15:17] <dpm> ok, no rush
[15:19] <jono> dpm, ok, having some audio issues here
[15:19] <jono> this damn headset
[15:20] <jono> dpm, lets try skype
[15:20] <dpm> ok, firing it up
[15:23] <jono> dpm, all set?
[15:23] <dpm> jono, all set
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[16:01] <doctormo> scott-work: pong
[16:42] <koolhead17> hi all
[16:44] <scott-work> doctormo:  do you have any experience with the xserver-xorg-input-wacom package for wacom drivers?
[17:00] <jono> dpm, still here?
[17:21] <dholbach> alright, got the dev update post out there, that's me done for today!
[17:21] <dholbach> see you all tomorrow! :)
[17:34] <akgraner> hey jono did you see all the developer tracks SCALE has added... and it's their 10th Anniversary.. thought you might want to spread the word to your peers :-)  Call for papers opened today...
[17:39] <jono> akgraner, yup :-)
[17:39] <jono> sounds good :-)
[17:39] <akgraner> thanks!
[18:11] <dpm> jono, I'm around now
[19:05] <jono> dpm, invite sent
[19:58] <doctormo> scott-work: Enough experence, what's your question?
[20:05] <scott-work> doctormo: oh good :)   someone recommended replacing wacom-tools with it and i just wanted to make sure it worked
[20:05] <scott-work> doctormo: i don't have a tablet but hoped you did
[21:08] <czajkowski> jono wasnt around for call yesterday mentioned it last week i am in ireland . paultag even offered to go on the call for me
[21:24]  * AlanBell has a unity lens working \o/
[21:46] <jono> np :-)
[21:46] <jono> nice work AlanBell :-)
[21:46] <jono> what does the lens do?
[21:58] <AlanBell> jono: I am making a fork of the applications lens that isn't completely irritating!
[21:59] <AlanBell> it will show all the applications I have, grouped by category
[21:59] <jono> AlanBell, the new lens already does that
[21:59] <AlanBell> stripping out the zeitgeist frequently used stuff and the suggested applications that I don't want
[22:00] <jono> AlanBell, are you running oneiric?
[22:00] <AlanBell> yes
[22:00] <jono> it has categories in there as buttons
[22:00] <AlanBell> the categories are in the filters which is daft
[22:01] <AlanBell> and I click accessories and it shows me 4 of the 10 things I have, plus 4 totally random other things
[22:02] <jono> ahhh gotcha
[22:02] <jono> cool, look forward to seeing your lens :-)
[22:02] <AlanBell> I filed a bug about the randomness of the stuff it offers for download
[22:04] <AlanBell> but still I want a lens that shows all 77 or so applications I actually have, grouped by category with no hidden stuff (the click to see the rest of what you asked to see thing is most irritating)
[22:06] <jono> gotcha
[22:06] <AlanBell> when unity passes the test of being able to launch an arbitary application of my choosing I will totally start using it!
[22:06] <jono> I find I rarely use the lens
[22:06] <jono> I have my apps on the launcher and I just type in the app I want
[22:07] <jono> in the search bit of the lens
[22:08] <AlanBell> yeah that works, but I ended up having a terminal running and starting stuff with "/usr/bin/gedit &" because it was just as quick
[22:08] <AlanBell> a gui that you have to type in kind of misses the point for me
[22:09] <AlanBell> I started pinning some stuff to the launcher, but I don't really like the concept of stuff there that isn't running
[22:15] <popey> heheh
[22:21] <AlanBell> tbh I am not really liking vala much
[22:23] <AlanBell> and I will do something about the getting started documentation at some point
[22:35] <popey> whats vala like, comparing languages?
[22:37] <AlanBell> well it isn't the language as such that I don't like, that is fine, looks like any other language that wants semicolons at the end of the line
[22:37] <popey> :D
[22:38] <AlanBell> you have a bunch of .vala files and run make, then you have a bunch of .c files mixed with the .vala files which then get compiled
[22:38] <AlanBell> vala compiles down to c which compiles to executables
[22:39] <AlanBell> same for the .in files and .in.in files
[22:39] <AlanBell> you end up editing stuff that gets regenerated from other files
[22:41] <popey> *boggle*
[22:43] <AlanBell> it is highly confusing, but a lot of that could be that I don't know what I am doing