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RoAkSoAxkirkland: nevermind it is working00:00
RoAkSoAxkirkland: the load monitor seems to be working just fine though00:00
RoAkSoAxok so yeah powernap-now is broken when action is powersave as it should have entered into poweresave mode. It has executed pm-powersave but it is not runing in powersave mode00:01
RoAkSoAxkirkland: but the LoadMonitor seems to be working correctly00:01
RoAkSoAxkirkland: I'll track then issue later since I'm on my way out00:05
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kernelpanickerI just installed Mailman, only to read in separate documentation I should have set it up under a specially created mailman user and group... what should I do?01:33
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kalkin-hi guys02:43
kalkin-please fix this http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=55317302:43
uvirtbotDebian bug 553173 in javascript-common "javascript-common overrides /javascript globally in apache2" [Important,Open]02:43
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uvirtbotNew bug: #833499 in nova (universe) "virt/disk.py unconditionally inserts  public_keys into /root/.ssh/authorized_keys" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83349903:36
spacinif my server is the dhcp server can i add a wireless router?  how would that be handled?03:37
CluelessPersonhi03:39
CluelessPersonHow do I enable internet storage space, such as SAMBA, over the internet?03:39
CluelessPersonbut secured, of course.03:39
CluelessPersonMy little brother has entered college with a laptop, and I'd like to enable him to connect to a secure storage location on my server so he can  securely put files there for acess wherever he wants.03:40
jmarsdenCluelessPerson: sshfs is one way to get there.03:42
SpamapS18889 clint     20   0 1744m 514m  10m S    6 13.1   0:32.37 java03:43
SpamapSOh java03:43
SpamapSyou're such a pig03:43
SpamapS:-P03:43
CluelessPersonjmarsden I prefer something simpler to an average computer user.03:46
jmarsdenCluelessPerson: Then have him use an existing service such as dropbox or box.net or whatever... :)03:46
SpamapSCluelessPerson: sshfs is really simple03:46
SpamapSCluelessPerson: give it a try before you write it off03:47
SpamapSCluelessPerson: you can also just setup winscp for him03:47
CluelessPersonSpamapS jmarsden  I just googled it, at first glance it looked like it required command line connection or setup for him, which I want to avoid.03:48
CluelessPersonSpamapS jmarsden  Initial command line setup is okay, but after that it needs to be incredibly simple,  and it looks like SSHFS might actually do that.03:49
SpamapS:)03:49
* SpamapS goes to join the real world for a bit03:49
CluelessPersongod04:00
CluelessPersonI forget the command to delete files.04:00
CluelessPersonremove?04:00
CluelessPersonsudo remove -R stuff04:00
CluelessPerson?04:00
jmarsdenCluelessPerson: http://crosswire.org/~jmarsden/talks/intro-to-the-linux-command-line/intro-to-the-linux-command-line.html04:01
CluelessPersonrm, that's right.04:01
CluelessPersonhow do you keep an ssh user or sftp user in their home directories?  and not allow them to explore the rest of the system?04:12
twbCluelessPerson: do you have lucid?04:22
twbhttp://paste.debian.net/127314/04:22
twb(Obviously you need to uncomment it)04:23
twbjmarsden: have you seen s5?  It turns a page like that into a slideshow doodad04:32
twb13:39 <CluelessPerson> How do I enable internet storage space, such as SAMBA, over the internet?13:39 <CluelessPerson> but secured, of course.04:33
twbYour only real alternative to SSHFS/SFTP is AFS, which is orders of magnitude more complicated for end users04:34
uvirtbotNew bug: #833519 in nova "lxc in nova will happily attempt to run x86_64 container on i686 arch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83351905:01
uvirtbotNew bug: #833530 in nova (universe) "nova-compute-lxc is missing dependency on qemu-kvm" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83353005:52
uvirtbotNew bug: #833542 in samba (main) "samba 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.3 failed to upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83354206:37
RoyKmorning06:56
CluelessPersonhey guys07:12
CluelessPersonwhat is your favorite torrent server with a webui to use on your servers?07:13
twb torrents blow and web UIs blow, but ISTR one that had a kinda OS X-style purple squid thing as its icon07:18
twb"muppet" or something07:18
ersiCluelessPerson: Well, I like 'rtorrent'. AFAIK there's a few webguis for it as well. Never used one of those myself though.07:19
trapmaxtorrentflux?07:20
CluelessPersonany other ideas?07:20
ersiI dunno.. maybe transmission has a web gui as well..07:21
RyanPTransmission has a web interface.07:21
CluelessPersonawesome07:22
CluelessPersonI see other people suggesting that as well07:22
CluelessPersonI've used deluge in the past, but it's a pain to set up07:23
twbWhat's the point, anyway?07:24
twbapt doesn't work properly over bt yet07:24
RyanPDownloading stuff?07:24
ersiI usually get my discs (like ubuntu-server-amd64.iso) via bittorrent07:26
ersigot a machine pretty much always up.. so, free seedin'07:26
twbersi: install ISOs are pretty useless07:26
twbJust use a mini.iso07:26
twbUnless your building an airgapped machine, which most people aren't07:26
CluelessPersonhrm07:40
CluelessPersonI can't find the tranmission settings/config files07:40
CluelessPersondo you guys know where they are?07:40
CluelessPersonsupposed to be in $home/.config/07:40
CluelessPersonbut that doesn't exist.07:40
CluelessPersoncd ..07:41
CluelessPersonclear07:41
CluelessPersondir07:41
CluelessPersonlol, woops07:41
ersiCluelessPerson: It's in .config/transmission/ for me07:46
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RoyKbug 83356208:35
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 833562 in grub2 "grub-update doesn't check for removal kernels" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83356208:35
RoyKbug 83356208:36
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 833562 in grub2 "grub-update doesn't check for removal kernels" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83356208:36
RoyKstupidobot08:37
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koolhead11RoyK, howdy09:07
twbGRRR.09:11
twbparted /dev/sdc mkpart primary 0% 1GiB # does completely the wrong thing09:11
twbparted /dev/sdc mkpart primary 0% 1024MiB # works perfectly09:11
_rubentwb: "lovely"09:38
twbAnd I don't trust "set 1 raid on" to DTRT WRT setting the partition type to what mdadm --scan requires09:40
incorrectcan ubuntu one be used with a server? i guess what i mean is there a cli to it?10:00
_rubenincorrect: try restating your question in such a way that it makes sense :)10:02
incorrectis there a cli to ubuntu one?10:02
_rubenoh wait, i missed the 'one' part :)10:02
_rubenwouldn't know a thing about that :)10:03
incorrecti do have a bad habit of talking rubbish10:03
ersiincorrect: http://joysofprogramming.com/u1sdtool-ubuntu-one-command-line-tutorial/10:04
incorrectoh great!, thanks i was struggling to find any other than gui stuff10:05
incorrectlets see if i can get it working on lucid now10:06
incorrectoh right you still need a fully working desktop for the cli to work10:12
ersiaw, that's not nice10:14
ogra_utlemming, did you do any furter work on bug 803547 ? (read: is ther ext4 support upstream now) ?11:07
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 803547 in live-build "live-build lacks EXT4 support for binary image types" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80354711:07
ogra_*further11:07
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uvirtbotNew bug: #833684 in postgresql-9.1 (main) "[FFE] Update PostgreSQL to 9.1, drop 9.0" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83368412:26
zulmorning12:38
UrsinhaDaviey: hola13:03
DavieyUrsinha: hey!13:03
DavieyIs it that time already?13:03
Ursinhayes sir13:03
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lynxmanzul: morning13:12
smoserhallyn, are you around these days ?13:29
uvirtbotNew bug: #825598 in libcgroup (universe) "cgred init script references wrong default file and uses bad options" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82559813:38
hallynsmoser: sorry, not really13:54
smoserhallyn, no problem.14:02
zulhey lynxman14:07
zularrrrrrgh.....0.9.4 ftbfs14:26
pmatulisthe slapd install now sets up a default DIT, is there an elegant way to prevent that (go back to barebones)?14:29
zulpmatulis: no14:29
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SpamapSwha?14:33
pmatulisit would have been logical to prompt the user for what suffix to use, basing it off the local domain by default is... argh!14:33
SpamapSzul: why can't we have a debconf low priority question that can be pre-seeded?14:33
zulSpamapS: uh....context?14:50
zulSpamapS: oh the openlap stuff? i wasnt the one who wrote it14:51
pmatulisi opened a bug on it14:51
spacinwhat the heck? dhcp3-server is giving out ip's that are not connected to the internet?14:52
cloakableHave you set the default gateway in it?14:52
spacinya I thought I did14:53
cloakablecheck :P14:53
spacinlol14:53
cloakableAlso, dns14:54
cloakableAlso, you may find dnsmasq to be simpler14:55
uvirtbotNew bug: #833818 in openldap (main) "default DIT suffix should be definable by user (debconf/preseed)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83381814:56
spacindnsmasq is like dhcp3?14:58
hggdhDaviey: just for the record, we will need to *sync*, not merge, ajaxterm later on. The Debian maintainer explained the need for the dh_python2 actions, and kees accepts it15:21
lynxmanSpamapS: ping, can I bother you for 5 mins? Have a question about ssh id chaining in Ensemble15:32
Davieyhggdh: can you link me to where the DM explained?15:33
hggdhDaviey: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=638332#1015:37
uvirtbotDebian bug 638332 in ajaxterm "ajaxterm: updates required for Main inclusion on Ubuntu" [Normal,Fixed]15:37
spacinhmmm somehow my gateway is 0.0.0.015:39
SpamapSlynxman: sup15:58
RoyKlynxman: Ensemble?16:04
lynxmanRoyK: yeah16:04
jpdsRoyK: https://ensemble.ubuntu.com/16:04
RoyKsorry, don't know that one...16:06
SpamapSRoyK: it has only really existed since this past spring. :)16:19
zuljdstrand: for openstack-dashboard providing a get-orig-source should be ok shouldnt it?16:19
jdstrandzul: that is fine, but it is nice to mention it in README.source or a commented watch file so it is easy to find16:23
RoyKSpamapS: IC - guess I need to look into that when^Wif I find time some day16:24
DavieyRoAkSoAx: Yes, looking at the cobbler system add script.. I really need to know why it needs to do more16:25
DavieyIt probably has wider concerns, regarding the new cobbler-enrol magic.16:25
adam_gDaviey: that script is uing mac address as the name, cobbler-enroll uses a custom name (presumably hostname), so it should be okay there16:26
Davieyadam_g: ah, ok - rocking16:26
Davieyadam_g: i liked your changes btw.16:26
adam_gDaviey: oh, cool! i wanted to look at adding SSL but figured it should be rearranged a bit to make it more easily extended16:26
Davieyadam_g: Do you fancing making a start at the state machine for handling input? :)16:26
adam_gkinda went nuts. not done yet16:27
adam_gDaviey: not sure what you mean16:27
Daviey^^ the udeb magic is actually a priority.16:27
uvirtbotDaviey: Error: "^" is not a valid command.16:27
Davieyadam_g: So, currently it doesn't take input at d-i, right?16:27
adam_gDaviey: oh, dont know about any of that16:28
adam_gDaviey: where would it get its input from d-i?16:28
Davieyadam_g: It's simply bash really..16:28
Davieyadam_g: http://www.fifi.org/doc/debconf-doc/tutorial.html16:28
adam_gDaviey: oh, thats what i thought. well then it should work, no?16:29
Davieyadam_g: so the postinstall for the udeb needs to contain snippets like this - http://pb.daviey.com/hGoj/16:29
Davieydb_get foo/like_debian16:29
Davieyif [ "$RET" = "false" ]; then16:29
Daviey^^ handles state16:29
uvirtbotDaviey: Error: "^" is not a valid command.16:29
DavieySo if it's not preseeded OR answered, then it asks for user input16:30
adam_ggotcha16:30
adam_gbrb coffee16:31
Davieyadam_g: "Letting the User Back Up" is probably a better reference TBH16:31
RoAkSoAxDaviey: the reason behing why I'm chaging adam_g script is because for ensemble to work, the system names need specific parameters, i.e. the systema name should be DNS addressable, the MAC should be defined, power management should be defined, management class should be defined,16:31
DavieyRoAkSoAx: ok, i am concerned that that with the new tool, it's not addressesing power or management class.16:31
RoAkSoAxDaviey: creating the management classes is done by orchestra itself when it is installed, otherwsie it is not needed16:32
RoAkSoAxDaviey: your cobbler enroll should not take care of assigning management classes for ensemble I believe16:32
DavieyRoAkSoAx: yes, but cobbler-enrol doesn't pass management class - does it?16:32
DavieyRoAkSoAx: ah ok16:32
RoAkSoAxDaviey: you might install just cobbler and then use cobbler-enroll and you won't need to pass management classes because you might not even have them16:32
DavieyRoAkSoAx: Yes, but i imagined that it should be optional16:33
DavieyI think that is something we can be concerned with after it's reached the archive16:33
RoAkSoAxDaviey: we could have a ensemble-setup command on orchestra side to set the default values to systems created by cobbler-enroll16:34
Davieyadam_g: Sorry to throw this onto you, it was something i was looking forward to doing.16:34
RoAkSoAxDaviey: orchestra-ensemble-setup16:34
Davieyadam_g: I'd really like to upload it before beta freeze.. is that viable?16:34
DavieyRoAkSoAx: hmm, ok - that sounds ok.16:34
DavieyRoAkSoAx: TBH, there needs to be a default incoming queue IMO.16:35
RoAkSoAxDaviey: right, but you cannot tell cobbler-enroll to assign orchestra-ensemble-available management class to a systme, when the class might not exists, and this class is setup by orchestra16:35
RoAkSoAxnot by cobbler16:35
RoAkSoAxDaviey: now, is cobbler-enroll gonna be shipped with orchestra or with cobbler?16:36
DavieyRoAkSoAx: no, but the udeb can suggest a default to try.. Anyway, this is polish we can brush on later.16:36
DavieyRoAkSoAx: standalone16:36
RoAkSoAxDaviey: ok, so in that case we are not gonna be certain about thje environment unless we query it16:37
RoAkSoAxDaviey: I believe that querying and giving the option would be the way to go16:37
DavieyRoAkSoAx: totally agree.. not sure we can manage that at this stage TBH.16:38
DavieyI hoped we could query for profiles aswell.16:38
RoAkSoAxDaviey: yes, orchestra after import will create a profile for -ensemble16:38
koolhead17hi all16:42
zuljdstrand: cool i just uploaed a newer one16:44
DavieyRoAkSoAx: Yes, but just a "to-be-sorted" profile, perhaps16:45
adam_gDaviey: sorry, just got back.16:49
Davieyadam_g: np16:49
adam_gDaviey: still not sure exactly what needs to be done or where. is it essnetially work that needs to be done to integrate the tool into the installer?16:50
Davieyadam_g: yes, exactly!16:50
Davieyadam_g: I just managed to drop something that was tieing me up.. So i can be more involved.16:50
zulutlemming: ping17:39
* hggdh is interested in this integration with d-i18:00
RoyKd-i?18:01
Davieyhggdh: \o/18:05
DavieyRoyK: Debian-installer.18:06
hggdhyes18:06
hggdhDaviey: this is fantastic, it is getting to be a real group work :-)18:06
Davieyhggdh: Shame we didn't try it earlier eh? :)18:11
ersioh god, why did the debian page choose Swedish for me18:14
ersiautomagic language detection makes me cringe :(18:15
ersioh, looks neat18:16
Davieyersi: Learn a new language whilst you hack!18:17
ersiI'm a Swede :)18:17
Davieyoh!18:19
ersibut all my language strings in the browser are set to en_US18:20
SpamapSutlemming: ping18:31
utlemmingSpamapS: pong18:31
SpamapSutlemming: I'm trying to figure out why your branch and ubuntu:glance don't seem to have common ancestors18:31
SpamapSutlemming: what did you branch?18:32
SpamapSDarkwingDuck: hey, I still have your t-shirt here... ;)18:33
utlemmingSpamapS: the merge request is for lp:~openstack-ubuntu-packagers/glance/ubuntu not lp:ubuntu/glance18:33
SpamapSutlemming: oh fun18:33
DarkwingDuckSpamapS, Sweet :)18:33
DarkwingDuckSpamapS, We're going to have to figure something out LOL18:33
zulutlemming: ping where is the arm image again?18:34
utlemmingzul: http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/oneiric/current18:34
zulutlemming: oh they are "official"?18:34
SpamapSDarkwingDuck: they have this thing called the mail.. its amazing.. trucks going back and forth every day!18:34
utlemmingzul: as long as official has " " around it18:35
SpamapSDarkwingDuck: super boring.. I know18:35
DarkwingDuckSpamapS, Wait, they still do that?!18:35
utlemmingzul: the images are not qemu-runnable with the installed OMAP kernel though18:35
zulutlemming: ok i should try them on "real" hardware then :)18:36
utlemmingzul: yup. Alternatively you can download and use the Linario vexpress kernel. The only problem is that networking in qemu is flaky, but at least it'll start18:36
zulutlemming: ah i was thinking of trying to run them on openstack now18:37
utlemmingzul: oh, they should be fine for that18:37
utlemmingzul: raw disk images of around 800MB I believe18:38
zulouch18:38
utlemming(uncompressed)18:38
SpamapSso.. this new upstream version of glance has features in it18:39
utlemmingzul: http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Class-SDHC-Flash-Memory/dp/B004Q3R9BA/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1314297536&sr=1-118:39
SpamapS--use-syslog jumps right out at me18:39
zulSpamapS: yes amazing isnt it? :)18:39
zulutlemming: heh18:39
SpamapSSince I'm really unfamiliar w/ glance and openstack, somebody else needs to file that feature freeze exception18:40
utlemmingSpamapS: is a FFe needed since this isn't going into the ubuntu/glance source tree? yet18:42
SpamapSutlemming: its definitely needed before upload18:42
SpamapSIts a tiny feature, no sweat18:43
SpamapSjust need to dot the i's and such18:43
spacingateway 0.0.0.0 ga that's gonna work18:46
zulSpamapS:  are you talking about the kombu/amqplib stuff?18:47
SpamapSzul: the diff between 980 and 981 adds a --use-syslog flag to glance.18:48
zulok18:48
SpamapSI'd suggest filing and trying to get it shoved through fast.18:49
SpamapSOtherwise the glance bugs fixed in the 981 branch aren't going to get fixed for beta118:49
SpamapSmight already be too late actually18:49
zulwell its still in universe18:52
GrueMasterHas anyone tested iscsi recently on x86/amd64?  I am seeing a kernel null pointer oops on armel and was wondering if it was reproducible on x86 hw..18:53
RoyKGrueMaster: out of curiosity, what sort of armel machine are you using?18:54
zulGrueMaster: no18:54
GrueMasteromap4.18:54
GrueMasterPanda18:54
* RoyK is still waiting for his panda :P18:54
GrueMasterNot seeing any issues with my panda target.  Only the initiator.18:55
RoyKGrueMaster: can you pastebin the OOPS?18:55
GrueMasterI already filed a bug.  Bug 833977 has the oops output.18:56
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 833977 in linux-meta-ti-omap4 "kernel oops when using iscsi on arm" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83397718:56
RoyKso OOPS -> Panic?18:59
* RoyK has no idea - sorry18:59
GrueMasterLooks like it hits a null pointer oops, then spirals into an interrrupt panic.  System is completely frozen at that point, and since it is during a netinstall, no syslogs are recoverable with a reboot.19:00
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uvirtbotNew bug: #828721 in glance (universe) "When purged, the glance user is not removed" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82872119:13
Davieyadam_g: so adding ssl support to cobbler-enrol serves no purpose for oneiric.  The creds are passed via preseed using http anyway19:15
adam_gDaviey: oh , cool19:16
adam_gDaviey: you may want to do that udeb stuff now that im not blocked anymore on the test rig :\19:17
adam_gyou can probably knock it out a lot quicker than me,a t this point19:17
Davieyadam_g: It's not going to land before beta freeze now.. so it's less of a rush, but i'll get cracking19:18
adam_gok. is 'enrol' an english thing? :)19:18
Davieyadam_g: best i can come up with is :) http://www.thefreedictionary.com/enrol19:21
Davieyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrollment19:22
adam_gDaviey: oh i meant enroll vs enrol.19:22
* Daviey runs away from this debate. :)19:23
CluelessPersonHey19:29
CluelessPersonI can't find the configuaration files to something I just installed19:30
CluelessPersonthe FAQ says that they are in ~/.config/deluge/19:30
CluelessPersonbut there's nothing there.19:30
CluelessPersonso..19:31
_rubenso... you'll need to creat it yourself19:31
_rubenpackages tend to not create files in users' homdirs19:31
_rubenhomedirs too19:31
CluelessPersonand I don't want it running as root anyway19:32
CluelessPersonI'd want it running as it's own user deluge19:32
CluelessPersonahahahah19:45
CluelessPersongot it. :D19:45
CluelessPersoninstalled correctly19:45
kernelpanickerWe're moving out mail from our site 'example.com' to a dedicated mail server projects.example.com.  I set up Mailman for our lists on the new server to test them, but now I need to make the lists list@example.com as opposed to list@projects.example.com... not sure where to do this, any ideas?20:02
guntbertkernelpanicker: I cannot help you but in any case it would probably make it easier to help you if you did not obfuscate domain/server names :)20:05
uvirtbotNew bug: #834070 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "Daily builds oneiric-desktop-amd64.iso since 08/17/11 are useless" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83407020:12
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dv310p3rOn my desktop when I use terminal, I can scroll around in terminal just fine. When I ssh into a box though I can't scroll up or down, yet others on a mac sshing into the same box can. What am I missing?20:28
guntbertdv310p3r: is screen running in that box?20:30
dv310p3rguntbert, I do use it yes.20:32
guntbertdv310p3r: if so then you need to press ctrl+a, then <esc> to get into "copy mode" there you can scroll20:32
dv310p3rguntbert, got it, Thanks!20:34
guntbertdv310p3r: you're welcome :-)20:34
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utlemmingzul: you still around?20:41
zulutlemming: barely...whats up?20:48
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CrazyGirhello!22:07
CrazyGirI am helping a client with some admin work and am a bit tripped up with a serial console setup22:08
CrazyGirthey have a rack full of systems, with a mac mini setup with a usb serial console to each of the 8 or 10 systems22:08
CrazyGirI used the serial console last week, and aside from it being a little cumbersome, I was able to get into the 8 that i needed to22:09
CrazyGirtrying this again this week, I'm only able to get into two of the systems22:09
CrazyGirall others just show the serial terminal as "connected" but I get no login prompt22:09
CrazyGirI have network access to the systems in quest, so I can fiddle as needed22:10
CrazyGircould there be something (on the servers) that would need to be reset/verified in such a way to bring the consoles back up?22:10
sorenCrazyGir: What happens if you hit return a couple of times?22:12
CrazyGirnothin22:14
CrazyGir*nothing22:14
CrazyGirsoren: I'm guessing serial stuff in ubuntu is all configuration and no services/etc22:15
sorenI'm not sure what you mean by that.22:18
sorenWhen you say "nothing", does that also exclude the cursor moving at all?22:18
CrazyGirConnected.22:19
CrazyGirthat's it :)22:19
sorenSo the cursor doesn't move when you press return?22:19
CrazyGirnope22:19
CrazyGirand I'm unable to close the connection with ~. (cu)22:19
sorenOk. How did you set it up to begin with? Can you pastebin the upstart job that runs getty for you?22:20
CrazyGiroh werid..22:20
CrazyGirctrl-c22:20
CrazyGirsomething must have been running on the server22:20
sorenNot anymore :)22:20
CrazyGiryea22:20
CrazyGirbut that's odd because all but 2 did this22:20
CrazyGirinteresting.. let's see if this continues to work :P22:21
CrazyGirsoren: in cu, ~. is the way to close the connection, right?22:21
sorenHaven't used cu in a decade and a half.22:21
CrazyGirhah22:22
CrazyGirif I new how to install software on this macmini, I would do it22:22
sorenRunning OSX?22:22
sorenYes, ~. means "Terminate the conversation" according to cu's man page.22:23
sorenHahhahahah:22:23
sorenBUGS22:23
soren       This program does not work very well.22:23
sorenSet expectations low. I love it.22:23
CrazyGirhah22:23
CrazyGirthat's hilarious22:23
CrazyGirbah, so far the same isn't applying to the next system :(22:26
sorenThat would be too easy.22:27
CrazyGiryea22:27
sorenYou could log in over the network and see what (if anything) has /dev/ttyS0 open.22:27
CrazyGirserial consoles can be such a pain22:27
CrazyGirnot a bad idea22:27
CrazyGirthe only issue is that I don't know which console on the mac goes to which server :P22:27
CrazyGirthat was my first task..  map it out22:28
sorenLog into all of them "echo $HOSTNAME > /dev/ttyS0"22:28
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openeyegood evening23:14
openeyeeveryone23:14
openeyei would like to get some of your experience and knowledge.23:14
openeyedo you guys know an easy way if a mail has been delivered, but then automaticly every 5 min23:15
kirklandDaviey: RoAkSoAx: does cobbler-enroll give a machine a "class" label?23:20
Davieykirkland: a management class?23:25
CrazyGirI have a raw kvm disk image which I have setup on a loop back via losetup (per these notes: http://blog.piotrj.org/2009/03/mounting-raw-kvmqemu-image.html), and while the partitions show up in cfdisk /dev/loop0, I am unable to mount any specific partition23:26
kirklandDaviey: cobbler can classify machines, give them a "class"23:26
kirklandDaviey: i have some logic in byobu's ec2_cost that maps a given system to the closest aws instance type equivalent23:27
kirklandDaviey: i was thinking about pulling that out to a standalone utility23:27
kirklandDaviey: that cobbler-enroll could use, and give a machine a "class" of m1.large, or t1.micro, or cc1.xlarge, etc.23:28
kirklandDaviey: so that ensemble (or an admin) could query cobbler for an "m1.large" type machine23:29
kirklandDaviey: make sense?23:30
CrazyGirah, well I see how kpartx is supposed to be used to add the partition mappings.. but they don't seem to exist in dev to then be mounted..23:30
Davieykirkland: sure does... So the requirement for a management class was only identified today.  That can be added, but not currently part of the code (patches welcome! :)23:31
kirklandDaviey: related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ensemble/+bug/82939723:31
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 829397 in ensemble "Link a service to a type of hardware" [Undecided,Confirmed]23:31
kirklandDaviey: niemeyer's recommendation is to "use Cobbler's machine classes to hand-tweak the placement"23:31
CrazyGirah, they're under /dev/mapper23:31
CrazyGirgot it. wow, that was painful23:31
kirklandDaviey: i was just thinking that we'd need to basically tag or label machines in cobbler with their closest AWS parlance23:32
Davieykirkland: Yeah.. RoAkSoAx is closer to that issue than myself.23:42
kirklandDaviey: cool, thanks23:46
Davieykirkland: But if you want to get your hands dirty, you are more than welcome :)23:46
kirklandDaviey: perhaps, let me see what we need to tackle next week23:46
kirklandDaviey: did cobber-enroll land in oneiric?23:47
kirklandRoAkSoAx: could you add your thoughts on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ensemble/+bug/829412 ?23:47
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 829412 in ensemble "Integrated DRBD support in Ensemble" [Wishlist,Confirmed]23:47
Davieykirkland: not as yet.23:48
DavieyThe udeb work isn't complete, seemed silly to rush it for the freeze.23:49
DavieyI'm still in hope it'll be on b1.23:49

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