[00:00] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: nevermind it is working
[00:00] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: the load monitor seems to be working just fine though
[00:01] <RoAkSoAx> ok so yeah powernap-now is broken when action is powersave as it should have entered into poweresave mode. It has executed pm-powersave but it is not runing in powersave mode
[00:01] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: but the LoadMonitor seems to be working correctly
[00:05] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: I'll track then issue later since I'm on my way out
[01:33] <kernelpanicker> I just installed Mailman, only to read in separate documentation I should have set it up under a specially created mailman user and group... what should I do?
[02:43] <kalkin-> hi guys
[02:43] <kalkin-> please fix this http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=553173
[03:37] <spacin> if my server is the dhcp server can i add a wireless router?  how would that be handled?
[03:39] <CluelessPerson> hi
[03:39] <CluelessPerson> How do I enable internet storage space, such as SAMBA, over the internet?
[03:39] <CluelessPerson> but secured, of course.
[03:40] <CluelessPerson> My little brother has entered college with a laptop, and I'd like to enable him to connect to a secure storage location on my server so he can  securely put files there for acess wherever he wants.
[03:42] <jmarsden> CluelessPerson: sshfs is one way to get there.
[03:43] <SpamapS> 18889 clint     20   0 1744m 514m  10m S    6 13.1   0:32.37 java
[03:43] <SpamapS> Oh java
[03:43] <SpamapS> you're such a pig
[03:43] <SpamapS> :-P
[03:46] <CluelessPerson> jmarsden I prefer something simpler to an average computer user.
[03:46] <jmarsden> CluelessPerson: Then have him use an existing service such as dropbox or box.net or whatever... :)
[03:46] <SpamapS> CluelessPerson: sshfs is really simple
[03:47] <SpamapS> CluelessPerson: give it a try before you write it off
[03:47] <SpamapS> CluelessPerson: you can also just setup winscp for him
[03:48] <CluelessPerson> SpamapS jmarsden  I just googled it, at first glance it looked like it required command line connection or setup for him, which I want to avoid.
[03:49] <CluelessPerson> SpamapS jmarsden  Initial command line setup is okay, but after that it needs to be incredibly simple,  and it looks like SSHFS might actually do that.
[03:49] <SpamapS> :)
[03:49]  * SpamapS goes to join the real world for a bit
[04:00] <CluelessPerson> god
[04:00] <CluelessPerson> I forget the command to delete files.
[04:00] <CluelessPerson> remove?
[04:00] <CluelessPerson> sudo remove -R stuff
[04:00] <CluelessPerson> ?
[04:01] <jmarsden> CluelessPerson: http://crosswire.org/~jmarsden/talks/intro-to-the-linux-command-line/intro-to-the-linux-command-line.html
[04:01] <CluelessPerson> rm, that's right.
[04:12] <CluelessPerson> how do you keep an ssh user or sftp user in their home directories?  and not allow them to explore the rest of the system?
[04:22] <twb> CluelessPerson: do you have lucid?
[04:22] <twb> http://paste.debian.net/127314/
[04:23] <twb> (Obviously you need to uncomment it)
[04:32] <twb> jmarsden: have you seen s5?  It turns a page like that into a slideshow doodad
[04:33] <twb> 13:39 <CluelessPerson> How do I enable internet storage space, such as SAMBA, over the internet?13:39 <CluelessPerson> but secured, of course.
[04:34] <twb> Your only real alternative to SSHFS/SFTP is AFS, which is orders of magnitude more complicated for end users
[06:56] <RoyK> morning
[07:12] <CluelessPerson> hey guys
[07:13] <CluelessPerson> what is your favorite torrent server with a webui to use on your servers?
[07:18] <twb>  torrents blow and web UIs blow, but ISTR one that had a kinda OS X-style purple squid thing as its icon
[07:18] <twb> "muppet" or something
[07:19] <ersi> CluelessPerson: Well, I like 'rtorrent'. AFAIK there's a few webguis for it as well. Never used one of those myself though.
[07:20] <trapmax> torrentflux?
[07:20] <CluelessPerson> any other ideas?
[07:21] <ersi> I dunno.. maybe transmission has a web gui as well..
[07:21] <RyanP> Transmission has a web interface.
[07:22] <CluelessPerson> awesome
[07:22] <CluelessPerson> I see other people suggesting that as well
[07:23] <CluelessPerson> I've used deluge in the past, but it's a pain to set up
[07:24] <twb> What's the point, anyway?
[07:24] <twb> apt doesn't work properly over bt yet
[07:24] <RyanP> Downloading stuff?
[07:26] <ersi> I usually get my discs (like ubuntu-server-amd64.iso) via bittorrent
[07:26] <ersi> got a machine pretty much always up.. so, free seedin'
[07:26] <twb> ersi: install ISOs are pretty useless
[07:26] <twb> Just use a mini.iso
[07:26] <twb> Unless your building an airgapped machine, which most people aren't
[07:40] <CluelessPerson> hrm
[07:40] <CluelessPerson> I can't find the tranmission settings/config files
[07:40] <CluelessPerson> do you guys know where they are?
[07:40] <CluelessPerson> supposed to be in $home/.config/
[07:40] <CluelessPerson> but that doesn't exist.
[07:41] <CluelessPerson> cd ..
[07:41] <CluelessPerson> clear
[07:41] <CluelessPerson> dir
[07:41] <CluelessPerson> lol, woops
[07:46] <ersi> CluelessPerson: It's in .config/transmission/ for me
[08:35] <RoyK> bug 833562
[08:36] <RoyK> bug 833562
[08:37] <RoyK> stupidobot
[09:07] <koolhead11> RoyK, howdy
[09:11] <twb> GRRR.
[09:11] <twb> parted /dev/sdc mkpart primary 0% 1GiB # does completely the wrong thing
[09:11] <twb> parted /dev/sdc mkpart primary 0% 1024MiB # works perfectly
[09:38] <_ruben> twb: "lovely"
[09:40] <twb> And I don't trust "set 1 raid on" to DTRT WRT setting the partition type to what mdadm --scan requires
[10:00] <incorrect> can ubuntu one be used with a server? i guess what i mean is there a cli to it?
[10:02] <_ruben> incorrect: try restating your question in such a way that it makes sense :)
[10:02] <incorrect> is there a cli to ubuntu one?
[10:02] <_ruben> oh wait, i missed the 'one' part :)
[10:03] <_ruben> wouldn't know a thing about that :)
[10:03] <incorrect> i do have a bad habit of talking rubbish
[10:04] <ersi> incorrect: http://joysofprogramming.com/u1sdtool-ubuntu-one-command-line-tutorial/
[10:05] <incorrect> oh great!, thanks i was struggling to find any other than gui stuff
[10:06] <incorrect> lets see if i can get it working on lucid now
[10:12] <incorrect> oh right you still need a fully working desktop for the cli to work
[10:14] <ersi> aw, that's not nice
[11:07] <ogra_> utlemming, did you do any furter work on bug 803547 ? (read: is ther ext4 support upstream now) ?
[11:07] <ogra_> *further
[12:38] <zul> morning
[13:03] <Ursinha> Daviey: hola
[13:03] <Daviey> Ursinha: hey!
[13:03] <Daviey> Is it that time already?
[13:03] <Ursinha> yes sir
[13:12] <lynxman> zul: morning
[13:29] <smoser> hallyn, are you around these days ?
[13:54] <hallyn> smoser: sorry, not really
[14:02] <smoser> hallyn, no problem.
[14:07] <zul> hey lynxman
[14:26] <zul> arrrrrrgh.....0.9.4 ftbfs
[14:29] <pmatulis> the slapd install now sets up a default DIT, is there an elegant way to prevent that (go back to barebones)?
[14:29] <zul> pmatulis: no
[14:33] <SpamapS> wha?
[14:33] <pmatulis> it would have been logical to prompt the user for what suffix to use, basing it off the local domain by default is... argh!
[14:33] <SpamapS> zul: why can't we have a debconf low priority question that can be pre-seeded?
[14:50] <zul> SpamapS: uh....context?
[14:51] <zul> SpamapS: oh the openlap stuff? i wasnt the one who wrote it
[14:51] <pmatulis> i opened a bug on it
[14:52] <spacin> what the heck? dhcp3-server is giving out ip's that are not connected to the internet?
[14:52] <cloakable> Have you set the default gateway in it?
[14:53] <spacin> ya I thought I did
[14:53] <cloakable> check :P
[14:53] <spacin> lol
[14:54] <cloakable> Also, dns
[14:55] <cloakable> Also, you may find dnsmasq to be simpler
[14:58] <spacin> dnsmasq is like dhcp3?
[15:21] <hggdh> Daviey: just for the record, we will need to *sync*, not merge, ajaxterm later on. The Debian maintainer explained the need for the dh_python2 actions, and kees accepts it
[15:32] <lynxman> SpamapS: ping, can I bother you for 5 mins? Have a question about ssh id chaining in Ensemble
[15:33] <Daviey> hggdh: can you link me to where the DM explained?
[15:37] <hggdh> Daviey: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=638332#10
[15:39] <spacin> hmmm somehow my gateway is 0.0.0.0
[15:58] <SpamapS> lynxman: sup
[16:04] <RoyK> lynxman: Ensemble?
[16:04] <lynxman> RoyK: yeah
[16:04] <jpds> RoyK: https://ensemble.ubuntu.com/
[16:06] <RoyK> sorry, don't know that one...
[16:19] <SpamapS> RoyK: it has only really existed since this past spring. :)
[16:19] <zul> jdstrand: for openstack-dashboard providing a get-orig-source should be ok shouldnt it?
[16:23] <jdstrand> zul: that is fine, but it is nice to mention it in README.source or a commented watch file so it is easy to find
[16:24] <RoyK> SpamapS: IC - guess I need to look into that when^Wif I find time some day
[16:25] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx: Yes, looking at the cobbler system add script.. I really need to know why it needs to do more
[16:25] <Daviey> It probably has wider concerns, regarding the new cobbler-enrol magic.
[16:26] <adam_g> Daviey: that script is uing mac address as the name, cobbler-enroll uses a custom name (presumably hostname), so it should be okay there
[16:26] <Daviey> adam_g: ah, ok - rocking
[16:26] <Daviey> adam_g: i liked your changes btw.
[16:26] <adam_g> Daviey: oh, cool! i wanted to look at adding SSL but figured it should be rearranged a bit to make it more easily extended
[16:26] <Daviey> adam_g: Do you fancing making a start at the state machine for handling input? :)
[16:27] <adam_g> kinda went nuts. not done yet
[16:27] <adam_g> Daviey: not sure what you mean
[16:27] <Daviey> ^^ the udeb magic is actually a priority.
[16:27] <Daviey> adam_g: So, currently it doesn't take input at d-i, right?
[16:28] <adam_g> Daviey: oh, dont know about any of that
[16:28] <adam_g> Daviey: where would it get its input from d-i?
[16:28] <Daviey> adam_g: It's simply bash really..
[16:28] <Daviey> adam_g: http://www.fifi.org/doc/debconf-doc/tutorial.html
[16:29] <adam_g> Daviey: oh, thats what i thought. well then it should work, no?
[16:29] <Daviey> adam_g: so the postinstall for the udeb needs to contain snippets like this - http://pb.daviey.com/hGoj/
[16:29] <Daviey> db_get foo/like_debian
[16:29] <Daviey> if [ "$RET" = "false" ]; then
[16:29] <Daviey> ^^ handles state
[16:30] <Daviey> So if it's not preseeded OR answered, then it asks for user input
[16:30] <adam_g> gotcha
[16:31] <adam_g> brb coffee
[16:31] <Daviey> adam_g: "Letting the User Back Up" is probably a better reference TBH
[16:31] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: the reason behing why I'm chaging adam_g script is because for ensemble to work, the system names need specific parameters, i.e. the systema name should be DNS addressable, the MAC should be defined, power management should be defined, management class should be defined,
[16:31] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx: ok, i am concerned that that with the new tool, it's not addressesing power or management class.
[16:32] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: creating the management classes is done by orchestra itself when it is installed, otherwsie it is not needed
[16:32] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: your cobbler enroll should not take care of assigning management classes for ensemble I believe
[16:32] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx: yes, but cobbler-enrol doesn't pass management class - does it?
[16:32] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx: ah ok
[16:32] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: you might install just cobbler and then use cobbler-enroll and you won't need to pass management classes because you might not even have them
[16:33] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx: Yes, but i imagined that it should be optional
[16:33] <Daviey> I think that is something we can be concerned with after it's reached the archive
[16:34] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: we could have a ensemble-setup command on orchestra side to set the default values to systems created by cobbler-enroll
[16:34] <Daviey> adam_g: Sorry to throw this onto you, it was something i was looking forward to doing.
[16:34] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: orchestra-ensemble-setup
[16:34] <Daviey> adam_g: I'd really like to upload it before beta freeze.. is that viable?
[16:34] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx: hmm, ok - that sounds ok.
[16:35] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx: TBH, there needs to be a default incoming queue IMO.
[16:35] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: right, but you cannot tell cobbler-enroll to assign orchestra-ensemble-available management class to a systme, when the class might not exists, and this class is setup by orchestra
[16:35] <RoAkSoAx> not by cobbler
[16:36] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: now, is cobbler-enroll gonna be shipped with orchestra or with cobbler?
[16:36] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx: no, but the udeb can suggest a default to try.. Anyway, this is polish we can brush on later.
[16:36] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx: standalone
[16:37] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: ok, so in that case we are not gonna be certain about thje environment unless we query it
[16:37] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: I believe that querying and giving the option would be the way to go
[16:38] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx: totally agree.. not sure we can manage that at this stage TBH.
[16:38] <Daviey> I hoped we could query for profiles aswell.
[16:38] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: yes, orchestra after import will create a profile for -ensemble
[16:42] <koolhead17> hi all
[16:44] <zul> jdstrand: cool i just uploaed a newer one
[16:45] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx: Yes, but just a "to-be-sorted" profile, perhaps
[16:49] <adam_g> Daviey: sorry, just got back.
[16:49] <Daviey> adam_g: np
[16:50] <adam_g> Daviey: still not sure exactly what needs to be done or where. is it essnetially work that needs to be done to integrate the tool into the installer?
[16:50] <Daviey> adam_g: yes, exactly!
[16:50] <Daviey> adam_g: I just managed to drop something that was tieing me up.. So i can be more involved.
[17:39] <zul> utlemming: ping
[18:00]  * hggdh is interested in this integration with d-i
[18:01] <RoyK> d-i?
[18:05] <Daviey> hggdh: \o/
[18:06] <Daviey> RoyK: Debian-installer.
[18:06] <hggdh> yes
[18:06] <hggdh> Daviey: this is fantastic, it is getting to be a real group work :-)
[18:11] <Daviey> hggdh: Shame we didn't try it earlier eh? :)
[18:14] <ersi> oh god, why did the debian page choose Swedish for me
[18:15] <ersi> automagic language detection makes me cringe :(
[18:16] <ersi> oh, looks neat
[18:17] <Daviey> ersi: Learn a new language whilst you hack!
[18:17] <ersi> I'm a Swede :)
[18:19] <Daviey> oh!
[18:20] <ersi> but all my language strings in the browser are set to en_US
[18:31] <SpamapS> utlemming: ping
[18:31] <utlemming> SpamapS: pong
[18:31] <SpamapS> utlemming: I'm trying to figure out why your branch and ubuntu:glance don't seem to have common ancestors
[18:32] <SpamapS> utlemming: what did you branch?
[18:33] <SpamapS> DarkwingDuck: hey, I still have your t-shirt here... ;)
[18:33] <utlemming> SpamapS: the merge request is for lp:~openstack-ubuntu-packagers/glance/ubuntu not lp:ubuntu/glance
[18:33] <SpamapS> utlemming: oh fun
[18:33] <DarkwingDuck> SpamapS, Sweet :)
[18:33] <DarkwingDuck> SpamapS, We're going to have to figure something out LOL
[18:34] <zul> utlemming: ping where is the arm image again?
[18:34] <utlemming> zul: http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/oneiric/current
[18:34] <zul> utlemming: oh they are "official"?
[18:34] <SpamapS> DarkwingDuck: they have this thing called the mail.. its amazing.. trucks going back and forth every day!
[18:35] <utlemming> zul: as long as official has " " around it
[18:35] <SpamapS> DarkwingDuck: super boring.. I know
[18:35] <DarkwingDuck> SpamapS, Wait, they still do that?!
[18:35] <utlemming> zul: the images are not qemu-runnable with the installed OMAP kernel though
[18:36] <zul> utlemming: ok i should try them on "real" hardware then :)
[18:36] <utlemming> zul: yup. Alternatively you can download and use the Linario vexpress kernel. The only problem is that networking in qemu is flaky, but at least it'll start
[18:37] <zul> utlemming: ah i was thinking of trying to run them on openstack now
[18:37] <utlemming> zul: oh, they should be fine for that
[18:38] <utlemming> zul: raw disk images of around 800MB I believe
[18:38] <zul> ouch
[18:38] <utlemming> (uncompressed)
[18:39] <SpamapS> so.. this new upstream version of glance has features in it
[18:39] <utlemming> zul: http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Class-SDHC-Flash-Memory/dp/B004Q3R9BA/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1314297536&sr=1-1
[18:39] <SpamapS> --use-syslog jumps right out at me
[18:39] <zul> SpamapS: yes amazing isnt it? :)
[18:39] <zul> utlemming: heh
[18:40] <SpamapS> Since I'm really unfamiliar w/ glance and openstack, somebody else needs to file that feature freeze exception
[18:42] <utlemming> SpamapS: is a FFe needed since this isn't going into the ubuntu/glance source tree? yet
[18:42] <SpamapS> utlemming: its definitely needed before upload
[18:43] <SpamapS> Its a tiny feature, no sweat
[18:43] <SpamapS> just need to dot the i's and such
[18:46] <spacin> gateway 0.0.0.0 ga that's gonna work
[18:47] <zul> SpamapS:  are you talking about the kombu/amqplib stuff?
[18:48] <SpamapS> zul: the diff between 980 and 981 adds a --use-syslog flag to glance.
[18:48] <zul> ok
[18:49] <SpamapS> I'd suggest filing and trying to get it shoved through fast.
[18:49] <SpamapS> Otherwise the glance bugs fixed in the 981 branch aren't going to get fixed for beta1
[18:49] <SpamapS> might already be too late actually
[18:52] <zul> well its still in universe
[18:53] <GrueMaster> Has anyone tested iscsi recently on x86/amd64?  I am seeing a kernel null pointer oops on armel and was wondering if it was reproducible on x86 hw..
[18:54] <RoyK> GrueMaster: out of curiosity, what sort of armel machine are you using?
[18:54] <zul> GrueMaster: no
[18:54] <GrueMaster> omap4.
[18:54] <GrueMaster> Panda
[18:54]  * RoyK is still waiting for his panda :P
[18:55] <GrueMaster> Not seeing any issues with my panda target.  Only the initiator.
[18:55] <RoyK> GrueMaster: can you pastebin the OOPS?
[18:56] <GrueMaster> I already filed a bug.  Bug 833977 has the oops output.
[18:59] <RoyK> so OOPS -> Panic?
[18:59]  * RoyK has no idea - sorry
[19:00] <GrueMaster> Looks like it hits a null pointer oops, then spirals into an interrrupt panic.  System is completely frozen at that point, and since it is during a netinstall, no syslogs are recoverable with a reboot.
[19:15] <Daviey> adam_g: so adding ssl support to cobbler-enrol serves no purpose for oneiric.  The creds are passed via preseed using http anyway
[19:16] <adam_g> Daviey: oh , cool
[19:17] <adam_g> Daviey: you may want to do that udeb stuff now that im not blocked anymore on the test rig :\
[19:17] <adam_g> you can probably knock it out a lot quicker than me,a t this point
[19:18] <Daviey> adam_g: It's not going to land before beta freeze now.. so it's less of a rush, but i'll get cracking
[19:18] <adam_g> ok. is 'enrol' an english thing? :)
[19:21] <Daviey> adam_g: best i can come up with is :) http://www.thefreedictionary.com/enrol
[19:22] <Daviey> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrollment
[19:22] <adam_g> Daviey: oh i meant enroll vs enrol.
[19:23]  * Daviey runs away from this debate. :)
[19:29] <CluelessPerson> Hey
[19:30] <CluelessPerson> I can't find the configuaration files to something I just installed
[19:30] <CluelessPerson> the FAQ says that they are in ~/.config/deluge/
[19:30] <CluelessPerson> but there's nothing there.
[19:31] <CluelessPerson> so..
[19:31] <_ruben> so... you'll need to creat it yourself
[19:31] <_ruben> packages tend to not create files in users' homdirs
[19:31] <_ruben> homedirs too
[19:32] <CluelessPerson> and I don't want it running as root anyway
[19:32] <CluelessPerson> I'd want it running as it's own user deluge
[19:45] <CluelessPerson> ahahahah
[19:45] <CluelessPerson> got it. :D
[19:45] <CluelessPerson> installed correctly
[20:02] <kernelpanicker> We're moving out mail from our site 'example.com' to a dedicated mail server projects.example.com.  I set up Mailman for our lists on the new server to test them, but now I need to make the lists list@example.com as opposed to list@projects.example.com... not sure where to do this, any ideas?
[20:05] <guntbert> kernelpanicker: I cannot help you but in any case it would probably make it easier to help you if you did not obfuscate domain/server names :)
[20:28] <dv310p3r> On my desktop when I use terminal, I can scroll around in terminal just fine. When I ssh into a box though I can't scroll up or down, yet others on a mac sshing into the same box can. What am I missing?
[20:30] <guntbert> dv310p3r: is screen running in that box?
[20:32] <dv310p3r> guntbert, I do use it yes.
[20:32] <guntbert> dv310p3r: if so then you need to press ctrl+a, then <esc> to get into "copy mode" there you can scroll
[20:34] <dv310p3r> guntbert, got it, Thanks!
[20:34] <guntbert> dv310p3r: you're welcome :-)
[20:41] <utlemming> zul: you still around?
[20:48] <zul> utlemming: barely...whats up?
[22:07] <CrazyGir> hello!
[22:08] <CrazyGir> I am helping a client with some admin work and am a bit tripped up with a serial console setup
[22:08] <CrazyGir> they have a rack full of systems, with a mac mini setup with a usb serial console to each of the 8 or 10 systems
[22:09] <CrazyGir> I used the serial console last week, and aside from it being a little cumbersome, I was able to get into the 8 that i needed to
[22:09] <CrazyGir> trying this again this week, I'm only able to get into two of the systems
[22:09] <CrazyGir> all others just show the serial terminal as "connected" but I get no login prompt
[22:10] <CrazyGir> I have network access to the systems in quest, so I can fiddle as needed
[22:10] <CrazyGir> could there be something (on the servers) that would need to be reset/verified in such a way to bring the consoles back up?
[22:12] <soren> CrazyGir: What happens if you hit return a couple of times?
[22:14] <CrazyGir> nothin
[22:14] <CrazyGir> *nothing
[22:15] <CrazyGir> soren: I'm guessing serial stuff in ubuntu is all configuration and no services/etc
[22:18] <soren> I'm not sure what you mean by that.
[22:18] <soren> When you say "nothing", does that also exclude the cursor moving at all?
[22:19] <CrazyGir> Connected.
[22:19] <CrazyGir> that's it :)
[22:19] <soren> So the cursor doesn't move when you press return?
[22:19] <CrazyGir> nope
[22:19] <CrazyGir> and I'm unable to close the connection with ~. (cu)
[22:20] <soren> Ok. How did you set it up to begin with? Can you pastebin the upstart job that runs getty for you?
[22:20] <CrazyGir> oh werid..
[22:20] <CrazyGir> ctrl-c
[22:20] <CrazyGir> something must have been running on the server
[22:20] <soren> Not anymore :)
[22:20] <CrazyGir> yea
[22:20] <CrazyGir> but that's odd because all but 2 did this
[22:21] <CrazyGir> interesting.. let's see if this continues to work :P
[22:21] <CrazyGir> soren: in cu, ~. is the way to close the connection, right?
[22:21] <soren> Haven't used cu in a decade and a half.
[22:22] <CrazyGir> hah
[22:22] <CrazyGir> if I new how to install software on this macmini, I would do it
[22:22] <soren> Running OSX?
[22:23] <soren> Yes, ~. means "Terminate the conversation" according to cu's man page.
[22:23] <soren> Hahhahahah:
[22:23] <soren> BUGS
[22:23] <soren>        This program does not work very well.
[22:23] <soren> Set expectations low. I love it.
[22:23] <CrazyGir> hah
[22:23] <CrazyGir> that's hilarious
[22:26] <CrazyGir> bah, so far the same isn't applying to the next system :(
[22:27] <soren> That would be too easy.
[22:27] <CrazyGir> yea
[22:27] <soren> You could log in over the network and see what (if anything) has /dev/ttyS0 open.
[22:27] <CrazyGir> serial consoles can be such a pain
[22:27] <CrazyGir> not a bad idea
[22:27] <CrazyGir> the only issue is that I don't know which console on the mac goes to which server :P
[22:28] <CrazyGir> that was my first task..  map it out
[22:28] <soren> Log into all of them "echo $HOSTNAME > /dev/ttyS0"
[23:14] <openeye> good evening
[23:14] <openeye> everyone
[23:14] <openeye> i would like to get some of your experience and knowledge.
[23:15] <openeye> do you guys know an easy way if a mail has been delivered, but then automaticly every 5 min
[23:20] <kirkland> Daviey: RoAkSoAx: does cobbler-enroll give a machine a "class" label?
[23:25] <Daviey> kirkland: a management class?
[23:26] <CrazyGir> I have a raw kvm disk image which I have setup on a loop back via losetup (per these notes: http://blog.piotrj.org/2009/03/mounting-raw-kvmqemu-image.html), and while the partitions show up in cfdisk /dev/loop0, I am unable to mount any specific partition
[23:26] <kirkland> Daviey: cobbler can classify machines, give them a "class"
[23:27] <kirkland> Daviey: i have some logic in byobu's ec2_cost that maps a given system to the closest aws instance type equivalent
[23:27] <kirkland> Daviey: i was thinking about pulling that out to a standalone utility
[23:28] <kirkland> Daviey: that cobbler-enroll could use, and give a machine a "class" of m1.large, or t1.micro, or cc1.xlarge, etc.
[23:29] <kirkland> Daviey: so that ensemble (or an admin) could query cobbler for an "m1.large" type machine
[23:30] <kirkland> Daviey: make sense?
[23:30] <CrazyGir> ah, well I see how kpartx is supposed to be used to add the partition mappings.. but they don't seem to exist in dev to then be mounted..
[23:31] <Daviey> kirkland: sure does... So the requirement for a management class was only identified today.  That can be added, but not currently part of the code (patches welcome! :)
[23:31] <kirkland> Daviey: related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ensemble/+bug/829397
[23:31] <kirkland> Daviey: niemeyer's recommendation is to "use Cobbler's machine classes to hand-tweak the placement"
[23:31] <CrazyGir> ah, they're under /dev/mapper
[23:31] <CrazyGir> got it. wow, that was painful
[23:32] <kirkland> Daviey: i was just thinking that we'd need to basically tag or label machines in cobbler with their closest AWS parlance
[23:42] <Daviey> kirkland: Yeah.. RoAkSoAx is closer to that issue than myself.
[23:46] <kirkland> Daviey: cool, thanks
[23:46] <Daviey> kirkland: But if you want to get your hands dirty, you are more than welcome :)
[23:46] <kirkland> Daviey: perhaps, let me see what we need to tackle next week
[23:47] <kirkland> Daviey: did cobber-enroll land in oneiric?
[23:47] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: could you add your thoughts on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ensemble/+bug/829412 ?
[23:48] <Daviey> kirkland: not as yet.
[23:49] <Daviey> The udeb work isn't complete, seemed silly to rush it for the freeze.
[23:49] <Daviey> I'm still in hope it'll be on b1.