[03:54] <grantbow_> welcome george_
[03:55] <george_> your there!
[03:55] <grantbow_> yes indeed
[03:56] <DarkwingDuck> For some strange reason Grant has been around here more often.
[03:56] <DarkwingDuck> :P:P
[03:57] <grantbow_> :P
[06:41] <philipballew> DarkwingDuck, find a location yet? or are we a no-go?
[06:42] <DarkwingDuck> We will be a go. I'll know more tomorrow.
[06:44] <pleia2> in DarkwingDuck's dining room \o/
[06:44] <pleia2> ;)
[06:44] <DarkwingDuck> If needed... Something like that.
[06:44] <DarkwingDuck> I have a really really small apt though.
[06:45] <pleia2> I had an ubuntu lan party at my house once
[06:45] <pleia2> we drank a lot, there's a video
[06:45] <DarkwingDuck> I don't have that big of a place but, I'll have something tomorrow
[06:46] <DarkwingDuck> I hope. LOL
[06:47] <philipballew> no worries DarkwingDuck, just figured id plan my schedule. im gonna have to drive 10 hours tomorrow so will be in the area again. just find a unprotected wifi house and set up tables outside. lol
[06:48] <DarkwingDuck> LOL
[06:49] <philipballew> should be good!!
[06:49] <pleia2> lol
[06:51]  * philipballew would offer his room. but 10x10 and a dorm environment with showers might be a bad idea 
[06:52] <DarkwingDuck> philipballew, you guys have a meeting room there that doesn't cost an arm and a leg?
[06:55] <philipballew> DarkwingDuck, I called and looked into it. but nothing at all. they like to keep things locked down there. its odd if you ask me
[06:57] <philipballew> i wonder if a tech buissness in the area would let us use a room for free
[06:57] <philipballew> *business
[06:59] <pleia2> a lot of universities only allow things that are students only
[07:04] <DarkwingDuck> pleia2, we are considered non-profit right?
[07:05] <pleia2> DarkwingDuck: depends, some places require you to be a registered non-profit and ask for your EIN#, some accept us as a "club" that isn't selling anything
[07:05] <DarkwingDuck> I'll call and ask.
[07:05] <pleia2> for Solano Stroll we actually needed a non-profit number, so we team up with partimus for that
[07:06] <DarkwingDuck> http://www.sdfoundation.org/AboutUs/CommunityMeetingSpace.aspx
[07:06] <pleia2> cool
[07:07] <pleia2> might also do a call to the mailing list to see if any SD folks know/have a space
[07:08] <DarkwingDuck> Did that... Got a lot of "Ubuntu? Ewwwww" replies.
[07:08] <philipballew> DarkwingDuck, can we use the sd lug space?
[07:08] <pleia2> DarkwingDuck: the ubuntu-us-ca list :)
[07:08] <DarkwingDuck> Oh that one LOL
[07:09] <pleia2> no jam discussions there at all!
[07:09] <philipballew> libraries often have rental rooms
[07:09] <DarkwingDuck> Yeah, chaching.
[07:09] <DarkwingDuck> *Cha ching.
[07:09] <philipballew> the lug near me meets in a library
[07:09] <DarkwingDuck> 50 bucks an hour with library.
[07:10] <philipballew> but we pay taxes!
[07:12] <DarkwingDuck> http://www.sandiego.gov/public-library/services/meet.fee.shtml
[07:12] <DarkwingDuck> I'm going to call the SF Foundation tomorrow.
[07:12] <DarkwingDuck> *SD Foundation
[07:13] <philipballew> we are non profit though in some ways though
[07:13] <pleia2> well, in the sense that we have no profit :)
[07:13] <pleia2> but not in legal terms, and a lot of places require you to be legally registered
[07:14] <pleia2> particularly venues which have liability concerns
[07:14] <philipballew> what would it take to register as one?
[07:14] <pleia2> a few thousand dollars and an accountant to handle our taxes
[07:15] <pleia2> it's very expensive to get started, and you get in serious trouble if you don't keep your books and taxes in order
[07:15] <DarkwingDuck> and as a club... It's kinda one of those strange things that muddles the lines.
[07:16] <philipballew> theres probably an accountant on the loco who can do some "under the table" work and get it for free :)
[07:16] <pleia2> philipballew: we don't want to go down that road, it's seriously awful
[07:16] <DarkwingDuck> Yeah...
[07:16] <pleia2> even if we had the few thousand dollars to get things rolling, it's not worth it
[07:17] <DarkwingDuck> esp if the IRS decides to check up on us and the "under the table" accountant doesn't want to stick his neck out.
[07:17] <pleia2> I've been the point man on all partimus accounting stuff these past few months, it's unfun
[07:17] <DarkwingDuck> I'll call SD Foundation tomorrow and see what we can do. Because that sounds like a good deal if they will work with us.
[07:17] <pleia2> good luck :)
[07:18] <philipballew> sounds good1
[07:18] <DarkwingDuck> But for now, I sleep.
[07:18] <pleia2> good night!
[07:18] <DarkwingDuck> Night guys
[07:19] <philipballew> pleia2, sounds like a pain to be an accountant for them
[07:20] <pleia2> philipballew: mostly it's getting everyone going in the right direction - you need to review the bylaws of the non-profit to make sure you're fulfilling all obligations and going through proper proccedures when you set up bank accounts, signers and things
[07:21] <pleia2> making sure all donations are properly funneled, keeping track of them all, sending donors receipts for their tax exemptions
[07:21] <pleia2> and then jumping through the IRS hoops because they change the tax forms every year
[07:23] <philipballew> our tax system is way to compacted
[07:24] <pleia2> ok, time for me to head toward bed too
[07:24] <pleia2> night all
[07:24] <philipballew> night!
[07:41] <bkerensa> gnight
[07:44] <philipballew> this channel is dead after midnight
[16:41]  * kdub_ ponders san diego ubuntu hour soon...
[16:41] <kdub_> where is philballew when you need 'im :P
[16:45] <pleia2> last night he said he's driving down late next week
[16:46] <kdub_> yeah, school is starting back up soon
[16:46]  * pleia2 nods
[16:49] <jdeslip_> So, how are people getting to the Picnic on Saturday.  Can I get a ride with anyone? Or meet up at BART with anyone?
[16:51] <pleia2> jdeslip_: if you want to get to montgomery street bart around 9:30 we have a free space in our car
[16:57] <jdeslip_> pleia2: That would probably work
[17:05] <bkerensa> =o
[17:06] <bkerensa> Montgomery Street Bart? Thats downtown SF :P how does one do a pickup there
[17:06] <pleia2> I live 2 blocks from there
[17:06] <bkerensa> oh that makes sense
[17:06] <bkerensa> :D
[17:06] <bkerensa> I just dont see it being easy to park on Market or Montgomery to pick someone up :D
[17:08] <bkerensa> pleia2: Do you think beer at a Global Jam is a good idea? PuppetLabs offered a keg in addition to their soda fountain and endless water bottle supply
[17:08] <nhaines> In that case, I'll be there early!
[17:18] <jdeslip_> I think Beer at a global jam is a great idea ;)
[17:28] <bkerensa> pleia2: Our Official Ubuntu and Server Book just arrived today
[17:30] <pleia2> bkerensa: nice! I had to follow up with heather who said she'd look into ours..
[17:31] <pleia2> I helped with fact checking on the ubuntu book, but it was uncredited (second time this has happened to me, boo)
[17:31] <pleia2> I am far too passive :)
[17:31] <nhaines> pleia2: boo!
[17:32] <nhaines> Just ask for it.   I'm sure you can at least get in the appendix.  :)
[17:32] <pleia2> nhaines: the first time was a major oversight, this time it was "I'll check with the publisher to get you added" and it never came to anything
[17:32] <bkerensa> thats horriblw
[17:33] <nhaines> :(
[17:33]  * pleia2 stops helping people with their books
[17:33] <pleia2> :P
[17:33] <nhaines> ha
[17:34] <bkerensa> I got a ThermaPak thingy for my laptop and its supposed to keep it cooler then a fan based cooler idk? Anyone have experience with these crystal pads
[17:34] <nhaines> bkerensa: do you notice any difference?
[17:34] <bkerensa> nhaines: I just put it under but I'm gonna monitor temps
[17:35] <nhaines> Well, that's a start.  :)
[17:36] <bkerensa> supposedly it has crystals that melt into gel and then the design of the ridges suck heat out and then when its off it turns back into crystals
[17:37] <nhaines> Sounds sciency.  :D
[17:41] <bkerensa> Yeah I guess... they need to make a giant one for my bed when the summer occurs it melts and keeps me cool :D
[17:41] <nhaines> haha
[17:41] <pleia2> lol
[17:41] <bkerensa> In fact is there a patent for that!
[18:27] <nhaines> Anyway, I think as long as someone's willing to check ID, a keg at a Global Jam isn't a bad idea.
[18:28] <philipballew> nhaines, if your under 21 are you still allowed to attend?
[18:28] <pleia2> and take keys away if needed :) (you can get in trouble if someone gets into an accident after leaving your place/event)
[18:28] <nhaines> pleia2: that too!  :)
[18:28] <nhaines> philipballew: it's not my event, but I would run one that way.
[18:29] <pleia2> the only time we've had beer at events is actually at breweries and the like (we still watch out for each other, but strictly speaking the venue bears the legal burden)
[18:29] <pleia2> but that's partially because beer isn't allowed at other venues ;)
[18:30] <philipballew> when I was at scale they had that night party and the staff on 3 different occasions offered me a cup from their keg. I laughed
[18:30] <pleia2> hehe
[18:31] <pleia2> the legal stuff may sound paranoid, but I come from pennsylvania, which had cops show up to our Intrepid release party
[18:31] <nhaines> At SCaLE last year, I think it was, I watched Jono drink 3 Jaegerbombs.  Man.  :)
[18:31] <kdub_> the /cops/ showed up?
[18:31] <nhaines> pleia2: oh, really?  Did you offer them a can too?
[18:31] <pleia2> *bombs++
[18:31] <pleia2> nhaines: we offered them a CD :)
[18:31] <pleia2> the story: http://princessleia.com/journal/?p=1345
[18:31] <nhaines> haha  :)
[18:31] <philipballew> those geeks know how to party pleia2
[18:32] <kdub_> hey philipballew, was thinking about an ubuntu hour down here sometime soon
[18:32] <pleia2> philipballew: it was all a strange misunderstanding
[18:32] <philipballew> kdub_, im down, when and where did you have in mind?
[18:32] <philipballew> pleia2, but i assume you offered the cops free ubuntu cd's :)
[18:32] <pleia2> philipballew: yep!
[18:33] <nhaines> pleia2: I typed the URL on my laptop in as princessleia.om, which would be a great TLD for a party recipe site (hint, hint)
[18:33] <sn9> om?
[18:33] <pleia2> lol
[18:33] <nhaines> sn9: yup.
[18:34] <pleia2> nhaines: alas, looks like they don't offer second level registration
[18:34] <sn9> party recipe mantra?
[18:34] <pleia2> we had someone get into a car accident *before* a party once, totaled his car, he was ok, still came to the party as his car got towed :)
[18:37] <DarkwingDuck> That's dedication.
[18:38] <nhaines> pleia2: aww.
[18:56] <nhaines> Ubuntu font on these auditing slips I use to annotate calls is so much more readable than Times New Roman.  :)
[20:09] <MArkDude> paulproteus: know of anyone that might be interested in seeing storyline to a dark comic that is being crowdsourced?
[20:09] <paulproteus> I don't quite understand the question.
[20:09] <paulproteus> What makes the comic "dark" -- having to do with death?
[20:10] <paulproteus> If it's being crowdsourced, anyone can see the story line so far, right?
[20:10] <paulproteus> I do have some friends who like fanfic.
[20:10] <paulproteus> Conoisseurs of it, even.
[20:13] <paulproteus> So MArkDude, probably -- can you say more?
[20:25] <jdeslip_> exit
[20:26] <MArkDude> Sure paulproteus are you on +?
[20:26] <MArkDude> I have list on FB and +
[20:26] <paulproteus> I'm not currently.
[20:26] <MArkDude> NExt week we will have a public document with it
[20:26] <MArkDude> FB?
[20:26] <paulproteus> Yeah.
[20:27] <paulproteus> I'm Asheesh Laroia there.
[20:27] <paulproteus> Facebook profile name 0x70096AD1
[20:42] <pleia2> put on the shirt I wore at scale, it's too big \o/
[20:42] <pleia2> (I've lost about 15lbs since then)
[20:43] <DarkwingDuck> Whoot!
[20:43] <pleia2> sadly I did it with diet and exercise, boring boring :)
[20:44] <MArkDude> added you paulproteus
[20:44] <MArkDude> once you accept I can tag you in note
[20:44] <MArkDude> it will be more accesible for others to read
[20:45] <MArkDude> http://diglebowski.deviantart.com/#/d47godi
[20:47] <nhaines> pleia2: congrats!  :)
[20:47] <nhaines> Ooh, I just learned about the Alt-Tab, Alt-Down feature of Unity task switcher in Oneiric.  :D
[20:50] <pleia2> 11.10 unity is looking really nice (this means a lot coming from me)
[20:50] <nhaines> I have not been impressed, but since Enter will now launch an application after a search, and it'll default to the Home view every time, all will be well.
[20:51]  * nhaines impatiently waits for the new default wallpaper.
[20:51] <nhaines> Also I am upset that Ubuntu Mono hasn't been hinted and we don't have it as the Live CD menu/GRUB/virtual console/GNOME monospace font by default.
[20:52] <nhaines> In fact, I'm about to reboot for the update that enables all that (minus Ubuntu Mono stuffs).
[20:54] <nhaines> Wow, that new Ubuntu Software Center icon is something else.  :)
[21:27] <MArkDude> paulproteus:  >> https://www.facebook.com/note.php?&note_id=10150287465394130