[00:04] <g0th> ParkerR: I read that you need hdmi 1.4 for 3d?
[00:05] <ParkerR> But the cable doesnt have a version number associated with it iirc
[00:05] <kaiyin> hi, how do you make a persistent liveusb?
[00:05] <ParkerR> g0th, its more of a if your TV and video card supports it
[00:05] <mbrigdan> Ubuntu suddenly seems to be ignoring module blacklists. update-initramfs is adding blacklisted modules, and other modules (like pcspkr) are being loading even though they are blacklisted. Can anyone help?
[00:06] <ParkerR> kaiyin, Lili live USB
[00:06] <ParkerR> !repeat | mbrigdan
[00:07] <w30> kaiyin, use usb-creator; it lets you dedicate 4gig for config if you have room on your flash drive
[00:07] <mbrigdan> ParkerR, I think I last asked my question about an hour ago, without any responses. New people are probably online by this point.
[00:08] <ParkerR> mbrigdan, oh sorry
[00:08] <ParkerR> I had just remembered you asking
[00:08] <ParkerR> My bad
[00:08] <mbrigdan> ParkerR, ah well, don't worry about it.
[00:13] <kaiyin> ParkerR: it's windows only?
[00:14] <ParkerR> kaiyin, use what w30 suggested
[00:15] <kaiyin> w30: will i be able to install or remove softwares on the flash drive?
[00:16] <w30> kaiyin, yes;understand you have a 4gig limit though.
[00:16] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent kaiyin
[00:16] <chaospsychex> is there a program in the repos to access data on a cell phone? i wanna pull some pictures off my phone
[00:16] <alkafoo> chaospsychex: yes, depends on the phone, however
[00:17] <chaospsychex> it's a lg flipphone whaT can i use to pull pictures off it?
[00:17] <w30> kaiyin, I set up a printer with it for boot retention
[00:17] <chaospsychex> it's not a 'smartphone'
[00:17] <rigoletto> its very complet ubuntu
[00:18] <rigoletto> i supose i can run a script to install plugins and actualice
[00:18] <jewles> hello
[00:20] <alkafoo> chaospsychex: which one?
[00:20] <chaospsychex> what?
[00:23] <alkafoo> chaospsychex: what model phone
[00:24] <neko_> Hi!
[00:24] <breath> HEllllllllllllo Guys !! I'm writing Out a Script And i'm Asking of How To Grep the line of a specified paramter like (( grep ubuntu )) i want the GREP to grep each line where ubunu Is mentionned HELP HELPPPP
[00:24] <urlin2u> neko_, don't wake us up were napping. ;-)
[00:24] <kaiyin> w30: is it possible to make a liveusb on a mobile hard drive?
[00:25] <kaiyin> usb-disk-creator seems not able to detect my drive.
[00:26] <urlin2u> kaiyin, not a stable way to do it.
[00:26] <alkafoo> breath: say again?
[00:26] <kaiyin> urlin2u: what is the better way?
[00:26] <Germanaz0> hello, is there a way to run macOs apps on linux ?
[00:27] <urlin2u> kaiyin, a thumb/pendrive,  you could do a full install on the external though
[00:27] <kaiyin> okay. thanks.
[00:27] <w30> kaiyin, I don't know if usb-creator will allow more than 4 gig for writing by adding partitions on the usb hard drive or not. I would just try it and see.
[00:27] <urlin2u> Germanaz0, not natively, but there may be some out there the web is your answer
[00:27] <breath> It's that i want to grep each line containing the word 'ubuntu  #for example'
[00:28] <chaospsychex> is anyone familiar with 'alien' ? where does it put converted packages ? i figured it would put them in the same folder i was working in. isn't the case though unless there is a parameter to pass to it
[00:28] <rigoletto> wazzup you should be idiot
[00:28] <coz_> chaospsychex,  did you look in the home directory
[00:28] <Germanaz0> urlin2u: well not natively is great
[00:28] <Germanaz0> but I don't want either a virtual machine
[00:29] <Germanaz0> just, something likes wine, for MAC
[00:29] <chaospsychex> yes it's not in the home directory
[00:29] <somsip> breath: cat {filename} | grep ubuntu or probably MYVAR=`cat $filename | grep ubuntu` in a script
[00:29] <breath>  It Will grep the whole line ????
[00:29] <urlin2u> Germanaz0, I would think that there is not n=much apple offers that isn't available in a linux format
[00:29] <somsip> breath: that's what grep does
[00:30] <breath> Okis thanks ;)
[00:30] <breath> I Love You :) xD
[00:30] <chaospsychex> how can i do a search for the file across the entire partition ?
[00:31] <jrib> chaospsychex: search by what, name?
[00:31] <urlin2u> chaospsychex, home has a serach
[00:31] <rigoletto> find should work chaospsychex
[00:32] <chaospsychex> but does searching in home only search home? i need to search the entire partition by name
[00:32] <chaospsychex> or file extension
[00:32] <urlin2u> chaospsychex, you can choose file...etc
[00:32] <chaospsychex> where is the search at
[00:33] <alkafoo> breath: or grep -i ubuntu filename
[00:33] <kbrown90> anyone here know anything about transmission?
[00:33] <chaospsychex> i found it,searching....
[00:33] <chaospsychex> what about transmission?
[00:34] <urlin2u> chaospsychex, far right top panel
[00:34] <jrib> tentensity.net
[00:34] <bazhang> kbrown90, its a torrent client
[00:34] <rigoletto> kbrown90 mybe the problem is tht nobody knos that
[00:34] <jrib> oops
[00:34] <chaospsychex> i prefer to work from the command line though
[00:34] <kbrown90> I have a home server that i'm wanting to download to, and upload from, but transmission isn't showing my server in the file list.
[00:34] <urlin2u> kbrown90, what's up?
[00:34] <bindi> kbrown90: #transmission
[00:36] <rxt0> hi there, i'm trying to run cpufreq-aperf but it keeps quiting with this error: "Could not read MSRs, is the msr driver loaded or compiled into the kernel?"
[00:36] <rypervenche> chaospsychex: use the "find" command.
[00:36] <rxt0> and the msr driver is loaded on the kernel
[00:36] <rypervenche> chaospsychex: Or check your terminal's history to figure out what command you ran.
[00:36] <chaospsychex> ok wtf, the file isn't even on the hdd
[00:36] <g0th> ParkeR: yes, the cable has a version number attached to it
[00:37] <rypervenche> chaospsychex: Then perhaps you did not use alien correctly. Check the man page for the correct format.
[00:37] <chaospsychex> it outputted file converted etc
[00:37] <chaospsychex> ill try again
[00:38] <jrib> chaospsychex: what is it that you are converting with alien?
[00:39] <zykotick9> chaospsychex, fyi alien is "generally" not such a great idea
[00:39] <dangbarry> hey, presently i'm trying to set up ubuntu server on a old computer. Its asking me for http proxy information, it says i can leave it blank, though, i have a feeling that apache2 will need it later! any ideas appreciated!
[00:40] <jrib> dangbarry: do you use a proxy?
[00:40] <blast_hardcheese> What's up with ubuntuforums.com requiring registration?
[00:40] <rypervenche> chaospsychex: I've only used it when converting from slackware to deb, which worked fine. deb to rpm is a bit trickier.
[00:40] <chaospsychex> zykotick9: why is that?
[00:40] <jrib> blast_hardcheese: #ubuntuforums
[00:40] <chaospsychex> ok then i will download the source and go from there
[00:40] <dangbarry> jrib, i what to try out shellinabox! so i have to!
[00:40] <chaospsychex> install from source
[00:40] <zykotick9> chaospsychex, source is a better idea
[00:40] <blast_hardcheese> jrib: thanks
[00:41] <dangbarry> want
[00:43] <dangbarry> bump!
[00:43] <zykotick9> chaospsychex, as to why, #debian's bobbitt factoid include "..or the fire that is <rpm>, <alien>, etc."
[00:44] <urlin2u> dangbarry, bumping is more likely to get you less help.
[00:45] <rxt0> how can i check if AMD's turbo core works?
[00:45] <rigoletto> works on amd and intel
[00:46] <dangbarry> urlin2u, sorry bout that, just wondering if anyone had any ideaS! if not, i'll leave it blank and come back to it later!
[00:46] <rxt0> i suppose there is no way to check if core boost is enabled
[00:47] <urlin2u> dangbarry, generally if enough info is there if people know they will respond, can get frustrating I realize. ;-)
[00:47] <IdleOne> dangbarry: probably safe to leave it blank
[00:47] <rigoletto> i dont know, but i think you can do it rxto
[00:48] <dangbarry> Thanks, i will, i can config it later! thank for everything!!
[00:51] <rigoletto> to not fall in errors windows uses the protected mode
[00:52] <kbrown90> ok, no one is answering in #transmission, so can anyone one help me here?  I have a home server that i'm wanting to download to, and upload from, but transmission isn't showing my server in the file list.
[00:52] <moes> Is there an application in Lucid that can configure window behavior
[00:52] <chaospsychex> you can't install 32-bit progs on 64-bit ubuntu ?
[00:53] <rigoletto> when i was younger i play whith overclocking hahahaha
[00:53] <urlin2u> moes, what tyoe of behavior
[00:53] <moes> urlin2u, to set window panels to center of desktop
[00:54] <urlin2u> moes, compiz probably
[00:54] <alkafoo> chaospsychex: sure you can
[00:55] <zykotick9> chaospsychex, you can install many 32bit programs on 64bit ubuntu
[00:55] <urlin2u> moes, might help,  http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/ubuntu-tips-and-tricks.htm
[00:55] <chaospsychex> well for some reason i got an error why trying to install bitrim
[00:55] <chaospsychex> forget it, not in the mood for this
[00:55] <moes> urlin2u, Okay thanks will try that url
[00:56] <urlin2u> moes, goo luck.
[00:56] <urlin2u> good
[00:56] <winut> goo sounds better!  lol
[00:56] <urlin2u> stickier, winut
[00:57] <bambanx> guys what email client for ubuntu is good?
[00:57] <bambanx> thunderbird i dont like very muc
[00:57] <centHOGG> ?
[00:57] <IdleOne> evolution
[00:58] <bambanx> in evolution you can do rules?
[00:58] <IdleOne> bambanx: yes
[00:58] <bambanx> i mean if i want to receive mails of specific account on specific folde rcan i do this?
[00:58] <IdleOne> yes
[00:58] <bambanx> cool
[00:58] <sethy> Help! I upgraded to Natty Narwhal on my Samsung N150+ and now my compose key won't work. Any tips?
[00:59] <Hemangpatel> hiii
[00:59] <Jef91> Anyone know of a decent USB to video out device that works with Linux?
[00:59] <Hemangpatel> i need help in LAMP installation
[00:59] <bambanx> sup hemangpatel
[00:59] <alkafoo> Jef91: what?
[00:59] <Hemangpatel> I have fedora 15 installed
[00:59] <sethy> How ever will I write emdashes now?
[01:00] <Hemangpatel> & i have to install LAMP for php
[01:00] <Hemangpatel> what i have to do ?
[01:00] <Jef91> alkafoo Exactly what I said
[01:00] <IdleOne> Hemangpatel: ask in #fedora
[01:00] <zykotick9> Hemangpatel, you're in the wrong channel, this is ubuntu support
[01:00] <Jef91> a USB to video out device
[01:00] <Hemangpatel> k
[01:00] <Hemangpatel> no problem
[01:00] <Hemangpatel> bye to all
[01:00] <Jef91> The hardware exists - I just don't want to buy something and get burned with it not working with Linux
[01:01] <alkafoo> Jef91: for doing what?
[01:01] <Jef91> alkafoo Producing video out?...
[01:01] <Jef91> Want to hook a netbook into a projector
[01:01] <sethy> Anyone else having trouble with compose key?
[01:03] <sethy> Where else can I go for help? Been trying here a few days and haven't received any help at all
[01:03] <rslacke> sethy: have you tried google?
[01:03] <kingofswords> in clonezilla do i just click makeboot.bat then reboot into usb(which i want to make copy of ubuntu to) and then follow instructions? it wont affect my OS at all will it?
[01:03] <rslacke> I have no idea what a compose key is
[01:03] <sethy> rslacke: I have
[01:03] <sethy> rslacke: can't seem to find others with my problem
[01:04] <rslacke> sethy: I have no ideas either
[01:04] <sethy> Compose key lets you create things like e with an accent over it, or an elongated dash, or a plus/minus sign, etc.
[01:05] <rslacke> oh I see..
[01:05] <sethy> Pretty necessary within the sciences
[01:05] <rigoletto> there are an extended ASCII table i think
[01:05] <rslacke> now I understand, but I've never worked with it, sorry
[01:07] <helix_9> Hello! I had to restart gdm but i had open a terminal with running testdisc. how can i get testdisk in a terminal again? ich habe musste gdm neustarten und habe mein terminal mit testdisc verloren. wie kann ich den prozess wieder in ein terminal holen
[01:07] <helix_9> Hello! I had to restart gdm but i had open a terminal with running testdisc. how can i get testdisk in a terminal again?
[01:07] <cuneyt> hi
[01:07] <rslacke> sethy: does it help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GtkComposeTable
[01:08] <sethy> sort of. I've already been there
[01:08] <szal> helix_9: unless you ran it in screen or the other similar program the name of which evades me, it got killed when the terminal it ran in went down
[01:08] <rslacke> oh ok
[01:09] <szal> s/evades/escapes/
[01:09] <helix_9> szal: the programm works - what i see in "top" - how can i get access to it ?
[01:09] <sethy> SUCCESS!
[01:10] <rslacke> :)
[01:10] <sethy> I had to undo some bad advice I tried earlier from here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/4679/how-to-remove-keyboard-icon-from-keyboard-layout-indicator-to-leave-just-the-lan
[01:10] <mars__> has anyone ever set up the traktor x1 midi controller and audio 2 dj  to work with mixx
[01:10] <rslacke> nice you get it to work
[01:12] <mars__> i was gifted a midi controller but i cant seem to find out how to map it to mixx would this be the right place to look for advice?
[01:13] <kingofswords> can some one tell me if clonezilla is just for copying ubuntu installation before i totally mess up my ubntu?
[01:14] <urlin2u> kingofswords, copies anything
[01:14] <milamber> kingofswords: yes(ish) - it works for more than just ubuntu
[01:15] <milamber> mars__: probably not, this is mainly for ubuntu support, that sounds like a software specific thing
[01:15] <kingofswords> if i boot into usb clonezilla and follow prompts i will just be copying and not altering my ubuntu OS?
[01:16] <milamber> kingofswords: are you following a specific tutorial we can see? it probably will just copy it though
[01:16] <Gibby> Just setup a 802.3ad bond.... it is only coming up at 10M/Half... any ideas why? The switch is a powerconnect 2724 and I enabled LAG for the 2 ports
[01:17] <kingofswords> yes this one http://www.howtoforge.com/back-up-restore-hard-drives-and-partitions-with-clonezilla-live
[01:17] <kingofswords> i dont see how it can make an write an image to my usb when the usb has the files on it?
[01:18] <alkafoo> if you just use dd instead of clonezilla, you won't have to figure out how to understand what some UI is doing
[01:18] <kingofswords> also i only want my ubuntu backed up and not my hdd
[01:18] <kingofswords> alkafoo, what is dd?
[01:19] <alkafoo> a command, for imaging
[01:19] <bsmith093> how do i load a different desktop user interface, like xfce vs gnome, if i install both
[01:19] <alkafoo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_%28Unix%29#Usage
[01:20] <kingofswords> alkafoo,  is the dd cmd already in ubuntu?
[01:20] <alkafoo> bsmith093: gdm (the login screen) should become aware of both
[01:20] <milamber> bsmith093: if you install more than one you can choose at login
[01:20] <bsmith093> neat
[01:20] <alkafoo> kingofswords: one would hope
[01:20] <bsmith093> thanks
[01:21] <milamber> kingofswords: what do you mean by your ubuntu? are you dual booting? and are  you trying to replicate packages on another machine?
[01:22] <kingofswords> milamber, im using updatemanager to go from 10.04lts to 10.10 and usrlin told me i should backup mu ubuntu incase something goes wrong
[01:23] <milamber> kingofswords: back up ubuntu means different things to different people. for me that only means backing up my home directory. do you have lots of custom software installed/configured or are you running stock?
[01:23] <kiichiro> How do I view a list of drivers and the device they go with, like I'm trying to find the driver my nic is currently using
[01:24] <kingofswords> milamber, some custom software i think
[01:24] <urlin2u> kingofswords, full image in your case i would think
[01:24] <kingofswords> ok
[01:24] <kingofswords> urlin2u, full image of hdd?
[01:24] <zykotick9> kiichiro, "lspci -vnvn" find the Ethernet controller section and the "kernel driver in use"
[01:25] <urlin2u> kingofswords, the ubuntu, but if you have other OS's it doesn't hurt clonezilla can do the whole or partitions
[01:25] <kingofswords> if something went wrong with my update and i did a fresh install of 10.04..could i keep my files on hdd
[01:26] <hermelin> dear folks, could anyone kick/move/invite/recommend me to a channel/prvmsg/url to help me get going with my problems concerning PRO/Wireless 2200BG on a Dell notebook running lucid?!?
[01:26] <kiichiro> is there a way I can copy a driver and will a driver in xubuntu work in xp?
[01:27] <zykotick9> kiichiro, lol - are you being serious?
[01:27] <chaospsychex> kiichiro? LOLOLOL
[01:27] <milamber> kingofswords: having a good backup strategy in general is a good idea. you will have to create a live cd/usb for any full hdd backup because it can't operate on a drive in use. you will not be able to store the image on the live cd/usb you have to ssh or have a large capacity external to store the image
[01:27] <chaospsychex> no way man, ubuntu drivers will not work in windows
[01:27] <kiichiro> I know of a few cross platform drivers and I need to switch over to do online classes
[01:27] <cutiyar> i cant play. DAt files ,why?
[01:28] <alkafoo> kiichiro: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/ or use a VM
[01:28] <chaospsychex> yeah 'sudo apt-get install virtual-box'
[01:28] <alkafoo> or sue the organization for making crap websites
[01:28] <chaospsychex> the box rox!
[01:28] <kiichiro> yeah VM on this, that'll work nicely yeah sure. No my computer will suck to much
[01:28] <alkafoo> kiichiro: what is it?
[01:29] <CoJaBo> ..dat files?
[01:29] <kiichiro> what is what? are you referring the online class
[01:29] <kingofswords> milamber,  ok i only have a8gb usb which i was using as clonezilla live....so this means i cant back up my ubuntu?
[01:29] <kiichiro> it's a program that there is no way on earth it'll run via wine, it barely will run on my regular xp without anything added to it
[01:30] <szal> chaospsychex: you might wanna get pkg names right before posting them for all to see ;)
[01:30] <alkafoo> kiichiro: what?
[01:30] <kingofswords> milamber, if i do the updatemanager upgrade and it messes up can i do a cd frsh install and keep my hdd files?(vids and games etc)
[01:30] <boot-troubles> Jordan_U: You still here?
[01:30] <milamber> kingofswords: not unless you have a nas/storageserver/other large capacity storage device
[01:30] <chaospsychex> szal: ?
[01:30] <kingofswords> ok
[01:31] <CoJaBo> cobol
[01:31] <kingofswords> is update manage really dodgy way of upgrading?
[01:31] <CoJaBo> lol*
[01:31] <szal> chaospsychex: it's either "virtualbox" or "VirtualBox", but definitely not "virtual-box"
[01:31] <milamber> kingofswords: there are utilities to try and recover the data, but recommended practice is to have backups. and if you don't have backups, get backups. then backup the backups. then make changes to the machine. industry standard is that if you don't have 3 copies of any given file, you don't care about the file.
[01:32] <hermelin> dear folks, could anyone help me with my intel wireless 2200BG on a Dell notebook running lucid
[01:32] <kingofswords> milamber,  i dont really care that much....just saves messing around reinstally
[01:32] <milamber> kingofswords: and i am not sure at this point why you would go to 10.10 ~ many people here prefer the lts, particularly if you need stability.
[01:33] <kingofswords> milamber, i want xorg 1.8
[01:33] <kingofswords> 10.04 has xorg 1.7.6
[01:33] <chaospsychex> szal: LOL are you serious
[01:33] <chaospsychex> my bad for getting the package name wrong,lol
[01:34] <chaospsychex> sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[01:34] <somsip> chaospsychex: you know there is a PPA for the latest version 4.1.2?
[01:34] <milamber> !info xorg maverick | kingofswords
[01:35] <chaospsychex> PPA?
[01:35] <szal> !info xorg-server lucid
[01:35] <kingofswords> milamber, i have game installed under wine whichis really laggy apparently xorg 1.8 fixes this
[01:35] <boot-troubles> I have just installed Natty 1.04, and can't get a decent boot from my HD; is there an earlier, more reliable ubuntu that I can try?
[01:35] <somsip> chaospsychex: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/virtualbox-4-1-2-released-and-ubuntu-11-0410-10-installation-instructions-included.html
[01:36] <kingofswords> i read maverick has 1.8
[01:36] <zykotick9> kingofswords, i sure hope this game ends up being worth all the effort
[01:37] <kingofswords> lol
[01:37] <szal> kingofswords: Maverick has 1.9.0
[01:37] <kingofswords> szal ok so which has 1.8?
[01:37] <szal> kingofswords: and Natty has 1.10.1
[01:38] <milamber> !info xserver-xorg lucid
[01:38] <szal> kingofswords: none, obviously, since there's nothing between Lucid and Maverick
[01:38] <kingofswords> so none has 1.8?
[01:38] <viper> hi
[01:38] <kingofswords> ah ok so was it in a beta ver of maverick?
[01:39] <Guest94170> hhi
[01:39] <kingofswords> is it possible to upgrade to 1.9 in lucid?
[01:39] <milamber> kingofswords: you would have to look for a ppa, and ppas are not officially supported here
[01:39] <kingofswords> also can anyone recommend a linux program like xpadder for original xbox controllers?
[01:39] <pooltable> how to installed handbrake?
[01:40] <RussW> I'm running Natty on 2 different machines and Google's voice chat appears to be installed correctly, but it is not picking up Mic input...any thoughts?
[01:40] <zykotick9> pooltable, there is a PPA that is probably the easiest method
[01:40] <kingofswords> milamber, if i find and add the ppa could i upgrade to 1.9 via synaptic?
[01:40] <pooltable> zykotick9 how do i do that??
[01:40] <zykotick9> !ppa | pooltable
[01:41] <milamber> kingofswords: that is the goal of the ppas, but as i said, if you break your computing machine no one here would feel particularly obliged to help. ppas are only recommended for those that can fix their own oopsies.
[01:41] <kingofswords> ok thx
[01:41] <zykotick9> kingofswords, i doubt upgrading xorg in lucid will be trivial
[01:42] <kingofswords> so would it just be easier to upgrade?
[01:42] <milamber> pooltable: you should also look at k9copy, it is in the repos and may do what you are looking for
[01:42] <zykotick9> pooltable, handbrake is amazing for mp4/mkv - anything in the Ubuntu repo won't be able to do mp4 (due to AAC problem)
[01:44] <milamber> kingofswords: check the version numbers at packages.ubuntu.com before asking here. natty doesn't have it. i don't know who told you that upgrading to 1.8 would help (or what distro they were running), but it doesn't look like you are officially getting 1.8 for a while.
[01:44] <ubuntu_> sparse time and job time
[01:44] <zykotick9> kingofswords, i wouldn't "personally" recommend that anyone upgrade ubuntu - be SURE to have backups of any important files!
[01:44]  * milamber agrees with zykotick9
[01:44] <ubuntu_> why
[01:45] <ubuntu_> zykotick9
[01:45] <zykotick9> ubuntu_, too many "issues"
[01:45] <pcdoc911> can someone tell me where to find the best guide / howto to install xen on ubuntu
[01:45] <IdleOne> !xen
[01:46] <boot-troubles> I have a brand new HD, and a fresh Natty installation, and cannot boot except with the LiveCD -- can anyone help me, please?
[01:46] <szal> boot-troubles: define 'cannot boot'
[01:46] <kingofswords> zykotick9, why is there the option in update manager if its so dodgy to upgrade(ive read this lots of other places too)?
[01:46] <zykotick9> kingofswords, oh lots of people do it (even without issues), but many run into problems
[01:47] <boot-troubles> szal: 'Primary hard Disk Error' or 'Read Error'
[01:47] <kingofswords> maybe ill just install game to xp partition instead
[01:47] <boot-troubles> szal: But ubuntu installs just fine...
[01:47] <zykotick9> boot-troubles, just a quick question, is this new HD 2TB or larger?
[01:48] <kingofswords> zykotick9,  milamber  thx for all help
[01:48] <boot-troubles> zykotick9: Yes, the new one is 2TB exactly.
[01:48] <zykotick9> boot-troubles, the standard BIOS/MBR cannot boot it then.
[01:48] <kingofswords> btw which is best ver of ubuntu to use?
[01:48] <centHOGG> old
[01:48] <boot-troubles> zykotick9: But the old drive was only ~650 GB.
[01:48] <milamber> kingofswords: np
[01:48] <speaker123> when i open a terminal, PAGER=less    where is this being set?
[01:49] <_Neytiri_> i was wondering if any one here knew how to install oracle 9g on ubuntu
[01:49] <V13Axel> kingofswords: Depends on the user, although the latest is the recommended.
[01:49] <boot-troubles> zykotick9: I had it set up with a GUID -- would that help?
[01:50] <zykotick9> boot-troubles, not sure how GUID fits into the picture.  Sorry, I don't have a 2TB drive yet, but I know you need to use a different partitioning system then normal.
[01:51] <ubuntu_> the partitioning is transparent to user
[01:51] <zykotick9> ubuntu_, what?
[01:52] <ubuntu_> you partition the disk like any other
[01:52] <boot-troubles> zykotick9: I had it set up to use a 10GB /root partition for the system files, a 10 GB swap, a 1.5 TB /home, and the rest in a /temp partition.  What should I have done?
[01:52] <zykotick9> ubuntu_, i don't think that is correct!
[01:52] <nrdb> I have a remote server I am looking after... its load figures have just jump to 30+ ... top reports a 95%wa figure .... how can I find out what is wrong?
[01:53] <zykotick9> boot-troubles, ?  sorry i don't know.  I just know that 2TB drives MUST be handled/setup in a different manner then normal <2TB drives
[01:53] <boot-troubles> zykotick9: Okay, thanks! Google, here I come!
[01:54] <somsip> boot-troubles: "ubunu 2tb" is giving lots of info
[01:54] <zykotick9> boot-troubles, GPT might be a good keyword
[01:54] <somsip> boot-troubles: though 'ubuntu 2tb' would give more...doh
[01:55]  * boot-troubles grins.
[01:59] <berto-> when my computer shuts down due to a power outage it gets stuck at grub.  how can i get it to always boot?
[01:59] <cutiyar> how to fix this / http://pastebin.com/eEjxbCbC
[01:59] <ubuntu_> sometimes you have surprised of what is in your hard drive ))
[02:00] <vincenzo> Ciao a tutti
[02:01] <nrdb> I have a remote server I am looking after... its load figures have just jump to 30+ ... top reports a 95%wa figure .... how can I find out what is wrong?
[02:01] <vincenzo> Hello! Can you help me?
[02:01] <somsip> nrdb: what process is causing the spike?
[02:02] <vincenzo> The ext monitor is black
[02:02] <nrdb> I have no idea... top doesn't tell me
[02:02] <somsip> nrdb: is it constantly at 95% or just occasioanlly?
[02:03] <zykotick9> somsip, with a load of 30+ it should be steady 100%
[02:04] <somsip> zykotick9: sounds like you know what you're doing wih this, whereas I was tenatively asking. I'll leave it with you
[02:04] <nrdb> somsip, it yesterday it did the same thing and a reset fixed it... it seems to run fine for a long time and then just bog down.. once it does it just stays bogged down.
[02:05] <zykotick9> somsip, oh i don't have any suggestions for nrdb... so you go ahead ;)  but load 30 means the CPU is 30x over it's max (basically)
[02:07] <nrdb> zykes-, somsip, last uptime = "load average: 7.10, 50.57, 51.09"
[02:07] <somsip> nrdb: anyexcessive processes in ps -aux?
[02:07] <zykotick9> somsip, "ps -aux" is actually incorrect, you'll get an error at the top, it's "ps aux"
[02:08] <somsip> zykotick9: oops
[02:08] <RussW> I have been experimenting with WUBI.exe for a couble of weeks and have stable instalations of NATTY on 2 machines...
[02:08] <zykotick9> somsip, sorry i'm not trying to "pick on you"
[02:08] <somsip> zykotick9: np :)
[02:08] <zykotick9> somsip, just trying to help :)
[02:09] <RussW> I have (apparently) installed the Google Voice chat tool successfully, but the Mic input seems not to be processed
[02:09] <nrdb> zykotick9, somsip, I let you know as soon as it lets me run anything.
[02:09] <centHOGG> google talk
[02:10] <RussW> Does anyone have any suggestions for me?
[02:10] <cutiyar> how to fix this / http://pastebin.com/eEjxbCbC  ??
[02:10] <zykotick9> nrdb, with load 50 that might not be easy.... best of luck man!  You should probably contact the owner of the server...
[02:11] <campee> when i run the "time" command against a command, i get output to the screen. i want to capture this output but i can't seem to do it using redirection ( time ls > output ). how can i capture it?
[02:12] <zykotick9> campee, i see you problem ;)
[02:13] <IdleOne> campee: it appears to output to screen but also creates the file
[02:13] <IdleOne> least for me it does
[02:13] <nrdb> zykotick9, somsip, there where no processes with a %cpu above 5.0 and all below %mem of 1.0
[02:14] <ubuntu_> @
[02:15] <ubuntu_> i think its "time  > ouput"
[02:15] <zykotick9> ubuntu_, doesn't work
[02:15] <campee> that doesn't work for me
[02:15] <campee> someone sent me this article, it has an answer: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/032
[02:16] <khaled> hi
[02:16] <somsip> nrdb: and is load still high or has it setled down?
[02:16] <zykotick9> IdleOne, i think the "time" campee is using is some sort of built-in, vs /usr/bin/time which gives different style output?  Do that give you any ideas?
[02:16] <IdleOne> zykotick9: none :/
[02:17] <campee> this worked for me: bash -c "time ls" 2>time.output
[02:17] <zykotick9> campee, nice!
[02:18] <itaylor57> camilo, also time -o file ls
[02:18] <itaylor57> campee, also time -o file ls should work
[02:18] <nrdb> zykotick9, somsip, still very high (don't know what), my load graph show that its peaked at about 80... before that less than 1
[02:18] <zykotick9> itaylor57, tab fail & that doesn't exactly work unless you use "/usr/bin/time -o ..." which is different from time
[02:19] <itaylor57> zykotick9, sorry leftover from other unix/linux distro
[02:19] <RussW> Does anyone have a suggestion for my Google talk mic issue?
[02:20] <nrdb> zykotick9, somsip, this all started about 45 min. ago
[02:20] <zykotick9> itaylor57, compare "time ls" vs "/usr/bin/time ls" - very different
[02:20] <rodrigoawk> does anyone know how to send a result from a command as a parm for another one using pipe? ex: find -name test which should result something similar to "./Downloads/test" and then do RM -RF ./Downloads/test directly?
[02:20] <nrdb> zykotick9, somsip, load average: 20.43, 20.38, 29.45
[02:20] <zykotick9> nrdb, i'm sorry - "I" don't have any suggestions for you, you don't need to keep highlighting me - sorry.
[02:22] <ubuntu_> wow
[02:22] <nrdb> zykotick9, ok... I will study the logs maybe there is something there.
[02:22] <itaylor57> zykotick9, ahh its a bash thing, I use ksh myself
[02:22] <zykotick9> nrdb, best of luck!
[02:23] <nrdb> zykotick9, somsip, its even taking a minutes to reboot.
[02:23] <somsip> nrdb: well, it's getting a bit OT as an ubuntu issue and more into the realms of server admin. I'm not sure how much help I'll be
[02:24] <mrguser> Hii all
[02:24] <nrdb> somsip, I know.  do you think it would be better to ask in the #debian channel?
[02:25] <mrguser> Hack ubuntu server thrg nokia E63
[02:25] <somsip> nrdb: I've never beenthere so I wouldn't know. I do tend to fall back on Goolge and frustrationwhen I'm stuck on things like this myself.
[02:25] <Phase> I notice that after entering the sudo password on the first sudo command, subsequent sudo commands don't ask for the password. How do I clear that stored permission so I can test a script I'm writing?
[02:26] <kingofswords> how can i disble multisampling in wine?
[02:26] <zykotick9> nrdb, if you're using ubuntu DO NOT ask in #debian - they won't like it (i don't)
[02:27] <nrdb> zykotick9, hmmm ok.
[02:27] <mrguser> Srch video on youtube as"netwrkspider"
[02:29] <mrguser> Thx for watching irc hack
[02:29] <Yada> What's the best backup app for ubuntu 10.04?
[02:30] <bullgard4_> Yada: rsnapsho
[02:30] <bullgard4_> Yada: rsnapshot
[02:33] <Yada> bullgard4_: sweet
[02:33] <Guest14124> anyone know of a cool cisco for linux site?
[02:34] <mbrigdan> Ubuntu suddenly seems to be ignoring module blacklists. update-initramfs is adding blacklisted modules, and other modules (like pcspkr) are being loading even though they are blacklisted. Can anyone help?
[02:34] <meditation_man> that dont impress me much
[02:34] <olabaz> hey I only know how to install programs using apt-get install but when they're not on there I don't know how to do it
[02:35] <olabaz> I read the readme and follow what it says to do but it doesn't quite work
[02:35] <Yada> bullgard4_: you know I just want to restore the partition where the ubuntu is to a specifice dat.
[02:35] <urlin2u> olabaz, look in syaptic
[02:35] <Yada> date
[02:35] <urlin2u> synaptic
[02:36] <Tenkawa> so.. anyone running ubuntu on a hp touchpad yet?? hehehe
[02:37] <centHOGG> heh
[02:37] <olabaz> urlin2u it's not on there
[02:37] <Tenkawa> so.. anyone running ubuntu on a hp touchpad yet?? hehehe
[02:37] <Tenkawa> oops
[02:37] <Tenkawa> sorry bout that
[02:37] <Tenkawa> bad up arrow hit
[02:37] <urlin2u> olabaz, what the package or synaptic?
[02:37] <olabaz> usbmuxd
[02:38] <olabaz> I downloaded the .tar.bz2 and extracted and opened the readme. It gives me a list of commands for building
[02:38] <gugugaga> why using shutdown command in this way - sudo shutdown 1:20 will cause the machine hang when the time reached ?
[02:39] <kingofswords> another wasted night trying to sort my pc out getting nowhere
[02:39] <olabaz> but they stop working
[02:39] <urlin2u> olabaz, it is in mine you need to open the repositories
[02:39] <Tenkawa> kingofswords: what kind of problems?
[02:40] <kingofswords> ubuntu just seems impossible to use
[02:40] <Tenkawa> hmm... in what way? hardware support or using the os?
[02:40] <rslacke> kingofswords: try slackware then
[02:40] <Yada> use kshudown?
[02:40] <olabaz> urlin2u, well I thought i did open them but anyways I want to be able to use those commands
[02:40] <kingofswords> whats slackware
[02:41] <somsip> kingofswords: LFS is worth looking at
[02:41] <Yada> it has a timer
[02:41] <urlin2u> kingofswords, a OS
[02:41] <tation_man> ubuntu is more easy than other kingofswords
[02:41] <kingofswords> im not a pc programmer i just wanna use my pc to surf and play a couple of games
[02:41] <Tenkawa> well slackware and lfs do not sound like what he wants to me
[02:41] <Tenkawa> quite the opposite
[02:41] <gugugaga> i use ubuntu only for one thing ............surf internet
[02:42] <kingofswords> whenever i get a problem i seem to spend days going round in circles and everyone in here speaks double dutch
[02:42] <Tenkawa> kingofswords: odd...
[02:42] <gugugaga> and update my website and using xchat and gimp that's all
[02:43] <kingofswords> ubuntu messed my windows partition up so i installed game in wine which now lags and is out of sync...but when ever i find solution i get even more probles
[02:43] <gugugaga> i can never get my tv tuner card work on ubuntu
[02:43] <urlin2u> kingofswords, how did ubuntu mess up a windows partition?
[02:43] <kingofswords> i can upgrade ubuntu i cant install xorg 1.8 i can disable ultisampling in regedit...
[02:43] <tation_man> wine problems ?
[02:44] <kingofswords> urlin2u, the mbr
[02:44] <Tenkawa> mbr can be easily fixed
[02:44] <urlin2u> kingofswords, thas child play.
[02:44] <kingofswords> actaully no it cant
[02:44] <Tenkawa> then its not the mbr...
[02:44] <kingofswords> i have ssd hdd and cant get into recovery console
[02:44] <kingofswords> i cant reinstall xp
[02:45] <Tenkawa> you dont have to...
[02:45] <kingofswords> Tenkawa, what is it then cos i still have all my windows files
[02:45] <urlin2u> kingofswords, you have a XP disc?
[02:45] <kingofswords> nope
[02:45] <Tenkawa> and why does having a ssd matter? I'm running an ssd
[02:45] <urlin2u> kingofswords, you want XP to boot?
[02:45] <kingofswords> xp doesnt install on ssd
[02:45] <olabaz> urlin2u, what repository do I need for usbmuxd
[02:45] <Tenkawa> what????
[02:45] <urlin2u> olabaz, not sure
[02:45] <kingofswords> so i had to slipstream xp on a usb
[02:46] <Tenkawa> it may not install on ahci but that is not ssd specifc
[02:46] <Tenkawa> or am I completely missing something .... mind you I'm almost asleep..
[02:46] <urlin2u> olabaz, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list     find the ones off.
[02:46] <Tenkawa> you can also readd xp to grub's boot
[02:47] <pasha> I'm about to up the paper based off last night's talk xD
[02:47] <pasha> mt
[02:47] <kingofswords> Tenkawa, i dont know but it doesnt install
[02:47] <Tenkawa> whats the error?
[02:47] <Tenkawa> I'd say fix the grub.cfg
[02:48] <Tenkawa> and then you should be fine
[02:48] <kingofswords> i dont know its weeks since i tried
[02:48] <Tenkawa> ahh
[02:48] <olabaz> urlin2u, I don't really know what that means lol. I have the file open what am I looking for?
[02:48] <urlin2u> kingofswords, if you want XP to boot you can run the bootscript and it will show why.
[02:48] <kingofswords> whats bootscript?
[02:49] <urlin2u> olabaz, anything with a # in front is not open
[02:49] <olabaz> and how do i open it?
[02:49] <olabaz> remove the #?
[02:49] <urlin2u> olabaz, remove the #
[02:50] <urlin2u> kingofswords, http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/  post it so we can knock off the complaining
[02:50] <urlin2u> pastebin
[02:50] <olabaz> hmm i don't have the cdrom one, you think it might be that?
[02:50] <html> how to you  play dvd?
[02:51] <rhin0> html : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs   RestrictedFormatsPlayingDVDs
[02:51] <urlin2u> html, you can install vlc, or the restricted-extras, and get the medinunti if needed
[02:51] <urlin2u> medibuntu
[02:51] <IdleOne> html: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:51] <IdleOne> html: you should be good after that
[02:52] <rhin0> does that install libdvdcss idleone - in that case yes
[02:52] <urlin2u> olabaz, not following you be more specific
[02:52] <IdleOne> rhin0: not 100% sure but I think it might
[02:52] <rhin0> html: also sudo apt-get install libdvdread4
[02:52] <rhin0> "sudo apt-get install libdvdread4"
[02:53] <rhin0> in the bash shell
[02:53] <olabaz> urlin2u, For software sources one of them says cdrom:[Ubuntu 8.04.....]
[02:54] <urlin2u> olabaz, that is the cd not used leave the # you have to run a update after enabling any repo
[02:54] <olabaz> sudo apt-get update?
[02:54] <gugugaga> omg steve job resign so now it's time for linux to take over the world ?
[02:55] <itaylor57> olabaz, what version are you running?
[02:55] <urlin2u> olabaz, yeah, has this computer been upgraded from 8.04
[02:55] <centHOGG> linux desktop compared to osx = sad joke
[02:55] <olabaz> no, i just installed it today from a cd I had
[02:55] <olabaz> i tried updating it but it froze in the middle and then linux crashed
[02:55] <urlin2u> olabaz, that is a end of life release
[02:55] <kingofswords> urlin2u, http://pastebin.com/bcDjHdNe
[02:56] <olabaz> so i'm just gonna stay with 8.04
[02:57] <urlin2u> kingofswords, you have XP in a extended, wont work
[02:57] <html> rhin0, urlin2u,  IdleOne,  thanks
[02:57] <IdleOne> html: welcome
[02:57] <kingofswords> urlin2u, double dutch to me mate
[02:57] <gugugaga> olabaz just download the latest ubuntu using firefox
[02:57] <kingofswords> althought i have figureed it out that it doesnt work
[02:57] <gugugaga> and install it
[02:58] <nac-godfather> Anyone here got gnome amd64 and tried getting the 64 bit flash working in firefox 5?
[02:58] <wildbat> kingofswords: unless you use grub to chainload the XP or else window bootloader can't boot it
[02:58] <kingofswords> wildbat, i dont know what chaiload means?
[02:58] <urlin2u> kingofswords, the extended partition, is a container for logical partitions=no promary partition, windows needs a primary, this is user error not ubuntu's fault
[02:58] <zykotick9> centHOGG, an article you should consider reading http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/483462-is-the-linux-desktop-qon-parq-with-mac-and-windows-no-way
[02:59] <nac-godfather> most bootloaders have a chainloader method, like map and other boot line parameters that allow chainloading another bootloader on another partition
[02:59] <olabaz> gugugaga maybe i'll do that another day. don't want anything to crash again
[02:59] <white_magic> anyone here familiar with knoppix? I accidentally pressed some key combination which basically switched the GUI theme to 'night mode' or something and it's annoying..
[02:59] <kingofswords> urlin2u, windows is primary...how was it working before
[02:59] <nac-godfather> it's actually the best method, rather than wiping out native bootloaders for each os
[02:59] <olabaz> urlin2u, wouldn't it be easier to just install it using the commands?
[03:00] <gugugaga> nothing will crash cos you just download the file and you need to burn it into a disk in order to use it
[03:00] <urlin2u> olabaz, if the repo is open and it shows
[03:00] <padli> hai
[03:00] <gugugaga> even if the connection drop you can continue the next day the download will resume
[03:00] <nac-godfather> yeah, figure that part out and learn how to burn an iso, then come back and ask questions before installing.
[03:00] <urlin2u> kingofswords, you also have a grub legacy file in your grub2 set up.  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:00] <wildbat> kingofswords: chainload main use a bootloader to boot and other .
[03:01] <wildbat> kingofswords: means.
[03:01] <padli> hi all
[03:01] <urlin2u> kingofswords, grub2 in the mbr, and dual grubs otherwise
[03:02] <nac-godfather> I don't know why syslinux doesn't likes to complain so much about modified isolinux.cfg files from iso files.  Just work 'em baby.  Never had a problem before until recently.
[03:02] <kingofswords> right i havent got a clue what ur both saying so thanks anyway.....im of to bed
[03:02] <kingofswords> i thinks it best i just go back to windows
[03:02] <olabaz> hmm i've enabled all of them and it's not showing
[03:02] <nac-godfather> well ur better off then.
[03:02] <urlin2u> kingofswords, the point is don't complain about Ubuntu this is all user error
[03:02] <amh345> how do you find out what user runs a cron job?
[03:02] <amh345> oh better yet, what user executes the cron
[03:03] <usr13> amh345: Ask your system administrator, he should know.
[03:03] <kingofswords> urlin2u,  my point was ubuntu isnt easy for not pc programmer type ppl to use
[03:03] <nac-godfather> unless your willing to just install to a separate hd, or separate computer, don't come here bitchin' cause you don't understand the process, especially when people are willing to go out of their way to walk you through it and not explain every detail.
[03:03] <olabaz> gugugaga but doesn't ubuntu download the files before installing them? It was during the upgrade of one of the packages that it crashed
[03:03] <amh345> i am the friggin system admin. im testing something
[03:03] <usr13> amh345: How many users are on the system?
[03:03] <amh345> 48
[03:04] <gugugaga> olabaz dont use the update manager to upgrade your ubuntu , download the iso file
[03:04] <nac-godfather> not unless you use apt-get cache or whatever it is.  You could check your dpkg cache directory to see if it's there, but probably not.
[03:04] <usr13> amh345: What the cron job does should be a clue.  Right?
[03:04] <olabaz> gugugaga is there a difference?
[03:05] <olabaz> urlin2u, hmm i've enabled all of them and it's not showing
[03:05] <usr13> amh345: What does the job do?
[03:05] <amh345> usr13: i think we might be on different pages. i know what the cron does. i want to know if my user executes it or if sometihng like root does.
[03:05] <IdleOne> amh345: ps aux | grep cron
[03:05] <IdleOne> that might give you some info
[03:07] <amh345> thank you IdleOne
[03:07] <usr13> amh345: It would be pretty hard for someone else to determine, (other than you).  I just dont think there is a silver bullet that will trace down the owner of a cron job.
[03:07] <gugugaga> olabaz taht's a fresh ubuntu installation :) required you to reinstall all app and copy back all your files
[03:07] <IdleOne> !behelpful
[03:08] <IdleOne> or give false advice
[03:08] <IdleOne> :)
[03:08] <gugugaga> upgrade is easy but error prone
[03:08] <olabaz> lol that doesn't sound too good to me
[03:08] <olabaz> can someone teach me how to follow readme directions, apparently i do it wrong
[03:08] <blsh0p> whoah
[03:08] <blsh0p> who are u guts?
[03:08] <amh345> IdleOne: that showed me.  it says cron is root and grep cron is myself (my user).  and im using that one of these values beside it is the PID.   this definitely helps.
[03:08] <amh345> thanks again
[03:09] <mordonez> Hi guys , yesterday I upgrade some packages and now the boot stops on line starting apparmor...
[03:09] <usr13> IdleOne: ps aux |grep cron   Will only show root.
[03:09] <amh345> useing = assuming
[03:09] <mordonez> any ideas what can be happening?
[03:09] <blsh0p> wtf why did it send me here?
[03:09] <IdleOne> usr13: I said it will give some info not all
[03:09] <blsh0p> what do i type to learn the commands?
[03:10] <usr13> blsh0p: man <command-here>
[03:10] <IdleOne> blsh0p: this is #ubuntu the Ubuntu support channel.
[03:10] <blsh0p> this irc sucks, it doesnt even show me whos in the chatroom
[03:10] <blsh0p> theres no iddlers or chatting list
[03:10] <rypervenche> blsh0p: irssi?
[03:10] <blsh0p> how do i see whos in the chatroom?
[03:10] <usr13> blsh0p: try  /who
[03:10] <IdleOne> blsh0p: what client are you using?
[03:10] <blsh0p> xchat
[03:10] <symaxian> Is there any method for geany to remember folded code?
[03:10] <usr13> xchat should have a sidebar
[03:10] <blsh0p> anyone know any better irc clients for casual chatters?
[03:11] <rypervenche> blsh0p: xchat is it
[03:11] <blsh0p> it doesnt it sucks
[03:11] <zykotick9> blsh0p, gnome-xchat by chance?
[03:11] <IdleOne> blsh0p: the user list in xchat is hidden you need to expand it. it's on the right
[03:11] <usr13> blsh0p: irssi
[03:11] <blsh0p> yes, that one
[03:11] <blsh0p> nope, expanded and still hidden
[03:11] <amh345> is it wise to set the sudo p/w in a cron?  seems like no it wouldnt be.  if not, how can i assign a user to execute that cron?
[03:11] <usr13> bindi: /who
[03:11] <blsh0p> what is irssi?
[03:11] <zykotick9> blsh0p, cli irc client
[03:11] <usr13> blsh0p: Either one
[03:11] <blsh0p> i dont want to type who every five seconds to see whose online
[03:11] <IdleOne> blsh0p: then you didn't expand the user list.
[03:11] <olabaz> Can someone guide me through building an install? It doesn't work when I do it
[03:12] <blsh0p> is it for linx?
[03:12] <CarlFK> amh345: root can have its own cron jobs, guessing that's what you want?
[03:12] <zykotick9> blsh0p, use regular xchat
[03:12] <usr13> blsh0p: Why is it so important to see who is online?
[03:12] <amh345> CarlFK: i dont think i want root to have a job.
[03:12] <blsh0p> so i can click to pm them
[03:12] <IdleOne> recommending irssi when they can't find the user list in xchat is not going to help
[03:12] <usr13> blsh0p: Do you realize how many there are on this channel?
[03:12] <amh345> i'd like my user to. because i seem to be generating some permission errors.
[03:12] <blsh0p> ok never mind i found it, good call
[03:13] <blsh0p> theres like a million
[03:13] <IdleOne> 1406
[03:13] <blsh0p> like i said, a million
[03:13] <olabaz> IdleOne, can you help me build a file?
[03:13] <bambanx> guys i am trying to download photoshop from adobe web, for run on wine in ubuntu, but i cannot download the web detect i am on ubuntu any light for me?
[03:13] <IdleOne> blsh0p: I'm going to have our channel bot send you some links so that you know the channel rules
[03:13] <IdleOne> !guidelines > blsh0p
[03:14] <usr13> bambanx: Try gimp
[03:14] <bambanx> i dont like gimp bro
[03:14] <IdleOne> !codeofconduct > blsh0p
[03:14] <usr13> bambanx: Why not?
[03:14] <IdleOne> olabaz: probably not
[03:14] <bambanx> i tryed to use but i have years on photoshop :/
[03:14] <blsh0p> what did  ido wrong?
[03:14] <ParkerR> bambanx, naybe download it on a windows machine or vm first?
[03:14] <ParkerR> *maybe
[03:14] <CarlFK> amh345:  there isn't much differnce between using sudo in a cron job vs having root run the job
[03:15] <usr13> bambanx: Best to just do a virtual box install of MS Windows
[03:15] <crabs> Gimp has only recently gained a working single window mode... maybe you should re-assess
[03:15] <bambanx> i dont have a copy of windows now :/
[03:15] <blsh0p> i didnt realize i did anything wrong, im sorry idle
[03:15] <ParkerR> usr13, well Photoshop runs perfectly in wine
[03:15] <bambanx> any way to fake my browser or some
[03:15] <amh345> CarlFK: i'd like my user (ubuntu) to run the cron. not root.  but it looks like root owns cron right now
[03:15] <IdleOne> blsh0p: nothing I just wanted to make sure you didn't in the future :)
[03:15] <CarlFK> amh345: if you want to lock things down, look int selinux - it adds a layer of security that seems pretty cool
[03:15] <urlin2u> olabaz, so I don.t know the repo that package is in, I have about 10 extras, so could be any
[03:15] <usr13> ParkerR: Thanks for the info.  I did not know that.  Very good.  (But I still prefer gimp).
[03:15] <ParkerR> Cool
[03:16] <olabaz> urlin2u, can you guide me through building the file with the source?
[03:16] <IdleOne> !compile > olabaz
[03:16] <urlin2u> olabaz, is it a tar
[03:16] <ParkerR> bambanx, PM
[03:16] <bambanx> ok
[03:16] <blsh0p> ok sorry
[03:16] <zykotick9> !checkinstall > olabaz
[03:16] <olabaz> it was but i decompressed it
[03:17] <usr13> bambanx: I stand corrected.  As ParkerR points out, running photoshop under wine works fine. So  there you go.
[03:19] <usr13> olabaz: What package are you trying to install?
[03:19] <olabaz> usbmuxd
[03:19] <mordonez> for some reason
[03:19] <mordonez> ubuntu do not finish the boot process
[03:19] <mordonez> it stops on a black screen
[03:19] <ajacobs> amh345:  'man 5 crontab' says that each user can have a crontab and the user owns the scheduled processes
[03:19] <mordonez> how can I see what happened?
[03:20] <usr13> olabaz: It's in the repo Right?
[03:20] <mordonez> boot log?
[03:20] <usr13> olabaz: Why not just use the package manager?
[03:20] <olabaz> usr13, no i downloaded a folder from a website
[03:20] <usr13> olabaz: A folder?
[03:20] <olabaz> usr13, tar.bz2 with stuff inside
[03:20] <bazhang> !info usbmuxd | olabaz
[03:21] <bazhang> olabaz, install from repos instead
[03:21] <olabaz> bazhang, i couldn't find it in repo and i also want to learn how to do it this way
[03:21] <usr13> olabaz: tar jxvf tar.bz2   #Will untar and decompress it.
[03:21] <bazhang> olabaz, I just showed you the package
[03:21] <blsh0p> how do i change servers?
[03:21] <blsh0p> i want to go on the server irc.typemetrics.net
[03:21] <olabaz> usr13, yeah i decompressed it and i opened the readme and it tells me to run 5 commands
[03:22] <blsh0p> port 6667
[03:22] <olabaz> usr13, i ran the first 3 but when I get to make it doesn't work
[03:22] <TheEvilPhoenix> blsh0p:  perhaps /server irc.typemetrics.net 6667
[03:22] <usr13> olabaz: But if you just want to install usbmuxd  just use the package manager, you'll be glad you did.   sudo apt-get install usbmuxd
[03:22] <blsh0p> thanks
[03:22] <TheEvilPhoenix> yep.
[03:22] <olabaz> http://slackbuilds.org/slackbuilds/
[03:22] <olabaz> E: Couldn't find package usbmuxd
[03:22] <olabaz> **
[03:23] <bazhang> olabaz, you using slackware?
[03:23] <usr13> olabaz: Are you using slackware?
[03:23] <olabaz> no idk what that is
[03:23] <olabaz> i was trying to find a repo that had that file in it
[03:23] <usr13> olabaz: /join ##slackware
[03:23] <dwp__> Does anybody have a suggestion on some good Ubuntu linux backup software
[03:23] <zykotick9> olabaz, "lsb_release -s -c"
[03:23] <IdleOne> olabaz: what version of ubuntu are you running and what error do you get when you try to run make?
[03:23] <bazhang> olabaz, we just gave you the ubuntu command to install it, this is not slackware support so join their channel for support if you are using it
[03:23] <IdleOne> !backup | dwp__
[03:24] <usr13> olabaz: If you are using ubuntu, just do  apt-get install usbmuxd
[03:24] <olabaz> bazhang i am not i pasted wrong thing
[03:24] <olabaz> usr13, that gives me: E: Couldn't find package usbmuxd
[03:24] <zykotick9> olabaz, "lsb_release -s -c" in a terminal, what does it return?
[03:24] <usr13> olabaz: apt-cache search usbmuxd
[03:24] <olabaz> idleone, i'm using 8.04 and i get: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[03:24] <usr13> olabaz: Yes, as zykotick9 says, show us the version number.
[03:25] <TheEvilPhoenix> ewww 8.04
[03:25] <blsh0p> u guys, what command is private message?
[03:25] <TheEvilPhoenix> does that thing even exist in 8.0.4?
[03:25] <TheEvilPhoenix> 8.04*
[03:25] <usr13> olabaz: 8.04 is passed EOL
[03:25] <IdleOne> blsh0p: /msg nickname
[03:25] <TheEvilPhoenix> blsh0p:  /msg person msg
[03:25] <blsh0p> ok thanks
[03:25] <TheEvilPhoenix> !8.04 | olabaz
[03:25] <bazhang> blsh0p, /msg nick message
[03:25] <zykotick9> TheBigRedButton, 8.04 isn't supported, so doesn't matter
[03:25] <IdleOne> !eol | olabaz
[03:25] <TheEvilPhoenix> bazhang:  ninja'd :P
[03:25] <olabaz> lol dammit wth
[03:25] <blsh0p> how do i do it where it opens up a private message channel?
[03:25] <usr13> olabaz: If you have your update manager set to LTS, you should be able to upgrade to 10.04
[03:25] <TheEvilPhoenix> blsh0p:  /query person
[03:25] <bazhang> blsh0p, you may wish to ask in #freenode for such general info, what irc client are you using
[03:26] <usr13> olabaz: After that, you whould have a better go of it.
[03:26] <TheEvilPhoenix> bazhang:  he's in xchat
[03:26] <blsh0p> xchat?
[03:26] <IdleOne> olabaz: the problem is you are running an unsupported version. please upgrade to a stable and supported release
[03:26] <olabaz> usr13, i tried  upgrading and it crashed
[03:26] <blsh0p> where can i learn all the commands and their meanings?
[03:26] <usr13> olabaz: Try again.
[03:26] <TheEvilPhoenix> blsh0p:  i'd ask in #freenode or #xchat, this channel isnt really IRC/xchat support.
[03:26] <bazhang> blsh0p, what commands, for example
[03:26] <TheEvilPhoenix> bazhang:  i think he wants an overview of IRC commands :/
[03:27] <blsh0p> yes, thats it
[03:27] <blsh0p> overview
[03:27] <bazhang> blsh0p, lets go to #xchat , I'll help you there
[03:27] <blsh0p> #xchat
[03:27] <blsh0p> wups
[03:27] <blsh0p> lulz
[03:27] <usr13> olabaz: You can just do a fresh install.  Back up /home and pop in 10.04 or 11.04 and do a fresh install.
[03:28] <Falaughful> my update manager isn't working, it tells me there's an unresolvable problem and to report it. any one encounter this and fix it?
[03:28] <urlin2u> Falamica, pastebin the errors
[03:28] <zykotick9> Falaughful, from command line try "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get upgrade" pastebin any errors
[03:28] <urlin2u> Falaughful, pastebin the errors
[03:30] <Falaughful> thank you, now its going
[03:31] <bambanx> how can extract rar files
[03:31] <karmst> Hello
[03:31] <somsip> bambanx: unrar
[03:32] <karmst> well I tried to install Ubuntu but it doesn't have support for the onboard intel raid card
[03:32] <bambanx> and when i have a file in parts ?
[03:32] <karmst> keeps trying to install grub on /dev/sda
[03:32] <bambanx> unrar the first file?
[03:32] <somsip> bambanx: dunno offhand. What does the help say?
[03:32] <karmst> when it's supposed to be on /dev/raidXXX
[03:33] <karmst> and i know how to build grub manually
[03:33] <karmst> but the install just stops and doesn't allow you to make any selections in the menu's
[03:34] <urlin2u> karmst, grub is pointed in the something else part of where you want the install
[03:34] <karmst> yes
[03:34] <karmst> and I do that
[03:35] <karmst> but when you hit enter or try and make the selection
[03:35] <karmst> nothing
[03:35] <karmst> you can't select anything in the menu
[03:35] <karmst> even cancel doesn't work
[03:35] <karmst> you have to hard re-ipl the system
[03:36] <urlin2u> karmst, you have a raid so it may be just putting grub in a  Ubuntu partition then loading grub to the bootpartition from a live cd not sure really.
[03:37] <karmst> well the cd would be /dev/cdb or somethhing
[03:37] <karmst> something
[03:37] <karmst> not /dev/sda
[03:37] <karmst> which would be a scsi device
[03:37] <karmst> I think there's a bug in the install
[03:37] <urlin2u> karmst, you can.t put grub on the cd
[03:37] <karmst> I know
[03:39] <urlin2u> karmst, the something else custom install also expects a target partition, and amount set as well
[03:39] <urlin2u> a mount
[03:40] <karmst> ok but do you understand what I am saying
[03:40] <karmst> it shows the menu... Says can't install Grub on /dev/sda
[03:40] <karmst> so it says change the path for grub
[03:40] <urlin2u> karmst, somewhat, I suspect a raid in Ubuntu is done with a alternative.
[03:40] <karmst> you do that and click enter and it does nothing
[03:41] <karmst> you click cancel install and click enter
[03:41] <karmst> nothing
[03:41] <karmst> it's like the menu doesn't control the commands
[03:41] <urlin2u> karmst, you have any partitions mounted?
[03:42] <karmst> sure
[03:42] <karmst> the raid partition is mounted
[03:42] <urlin2u> karmst, thats the problem  would bet
[03:42] <urlin2u> I
[03:42] <nac-godfather> Is there really any need to have the gnome-keyring startup services running at all?  Like ssh, secret storage service, and certificate and key storage, I just find gnome-keyring useless and annoying, and if these won't prevent me from using ssh to open a vnc tunnel or something like that, then let me know, cause I'd prefer just turn them off.
[03:43] <karmst> if you use SSL on anything and turn the keyring off you will have to manually accept every certificate request
[03:44] <nac-godfather> like an apache server?
[03:45] <karmst> like anything requiring certificate authentication
[03:45] <karmst> vpn
[03:45] <karmst> ip sec
[03:45] <nac-godfather> what do you mean by "anything"  what types of apps/or services
[03:45] <karmst> https
[03:45] <karmst> etc...
[03:45] <nac-godfather> ah okay.
[03:45] <nac-godfather> I'll keep that one on then
[03:45] <nac-godfather> thanks you.
[03:45] <karmst> np
[03:45] <karmst> hmmm
[03:46] <iedh> sorry i am noob, where is the ubuntu channel in spanish?
[03:46] <karmst> ok in a VM with a 2 disk array raid mirror it installs just fine
[03:46] <karmst> it's got to a bug in the intel raid drivers
[03:46] <somsip> !es | iedh
[03:46] <karmst> #ubuntu-es
[03:47] <nac-godfather> anyone here using flash 64 bit in firefox?
[03:47] <iedh> thx, i tried ubuntu.es lol
[03:47] <urlin2u> karmst, the raid partition is where your putting Ubuntu?
[03:47] <oooaaaooo> hey guys just a question, i added a ppa and was wondering if there was anyway to a. list all the ppa's i have and b. browse through a ppa, via cli?
[03:48] <urlin2u> oooaaaooo, in etc/apt/sources.d
[03:48] <nac-godfather> yeah, do "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep ppa"
[03:49] <urlin2u> or etc/aptsources.list oooaaaooo
[03:49] <nac-godfather> then maybe look at those sources listed in a web browser
[03:49] <urlin2u> apt/sources*
[03:49] <jgornick> Hey guys, is there a service or application available that allows me to make sure that I have n number of active instances of an application running at once and if one exits, then another will start?
[03:50] <nac-godfather> no, it's what I wrote "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep ppa" and you'll only get the ppa's
[03:50] <antimouse> hello people, how can I set gnome classic desktop as default from the command line on Ubuntu 11.04?
[03:50] <nac-godfather> log in as another user
[03:50] <urlin2u> nac-godfather, there is a sources.d as wel
[03:50] <zykotick9> antimouse, are you using startx to start Xorg?
[03:51] <oooaaaooo> nac-godfather: cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep ppa yields nothing
[03:52] <nac-godfather> well did you add ppa's
[03:52] <antimouse> zykotick9 no, actually everything starts till the login screen, but the resolution is messed up, so I can't see anything. and I know unity is not supported by my video card
[03:52] <Flannel> oooaaaooo: Try cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | grep -i ppa
[03:52] <nac-godfather> I have ppa's in mine, and that exact command listed all mine I added.
[03:52] <fhtagn> it should default to gnome 2 =/
[03:53] <nac-godfather> deb http://all.repository.backtrack-linux.org revolution main microverse non-free testing
[03:53] <nac-godfather> deb http://64.repository.backtrack-linux.org revolution main microverse non-free testing
[03:53] <nac-godfather> deb http://source.repository.backtrack-linux.org revolution main microverse non-free testing
[03:53] <nac-godfather> #Adobe FlashPlayer
[03:53] <FloodBot1> nac-godfather: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:53] <nac-godfather> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/sevenmachines/flash/ubuntu lucid main
[03:53] <oooaaaooo> Flannel: is sources.list.d a directory>
[03:53] <nac-godfather> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/sevenmachines/flash/ubuntu lucid main
[03:53] <urlin2u> oooaaaooo, go to file in home to  /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[03:54] <urlin2u> and open the directory
[03:54] <peydude> any network gurus in the house ?
[03:55] <zykotick9> !anyone > peydude
[03:56] <peydude> I think there is something wrong with my routing table. specifically the loopback interface:
[03:56] <peydude> loopback        localhost       255.0.0.0       UG    0      0        0 lo
[03:56] <peydude> should it have the UG flag ?
[03:57] <oooaaaooo> urlin2u: whats the diff between sources.list and sources.list.d
[03:58] <urlin2u> oooaaaooo, I think the list.d is those added with apt-add-repoitory.
[03:58] <urlin2u> repository
[03:59] <fowl> whenever i download say a .zip in chrome and click to open it I get an error with nautilus not knowing how to open it because it's not a folder, how can  fix this so it opens with the preferred program?
[03:59] <Flannel> oooaaaooo: it is.
[03:59] <urlin2u> fowl, right click
[03:59] <Flannel> oooaaaooo: You can treat all the contents of all the files in /etc/sources.list.d/ as being a part of /etc/sources.list
[04:00] <fowl> nautilus opens it fine when i open from a directory
[04:00] <Phase> I'm trying to edit /etc/suoders so swapon/swapoff don't require a password ( my sudoers file: http://sprunge.us/CTYZ ), but it still requires a password. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
[04:00] <djjonex> i have a monitor splitter cable and i see the same in both monitor...how i can change that
[04:01] <urlin2u> fowl, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/10287
[04:02] <oooaaaooo> urlin2u: i see , think the .d is for ppa's and the other one's all the psuedo/official ones
[04:02] <fowl> that doesn't help
[04:02] <Flannel> Phase: try Phase ALL=NOPASSWD: /sbin/swapon, /sbin/swapoff
[04:02] <Flannel> oh, bother.
[04:02] <urlin2u> oooaaaooo, any will go in the sources.list though
[04:02] <Flannel> Phase: not that.
[04:03] <Phase> Flannel: :P
[04:03] <oooaaaooo> urlin2u: how do i browse the packages in any given repository?
[04:03] <Flannel> Phase: Phase ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /sbin/swapon, /sbin/swapoff
[04:03] <theadmin> oooaaaooo: Not really. The sources list of APT is composed of all the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/, and /etc/apt/sources.list, neither of them are dedicated to any kind of repositories
[04:03] <Phase> Flannel: Alright, let me try that
[04:03] <theadmin> Flannel: You could just very well add the swap partition to fstab with the "user" option, don't you think?
[04:04] <oooaaaooo> theadmin: then why have 2 of them?
[04:04] <theadmin> oooaaaooo: Just for comfort
[04:04] <Flannel> theadmin: well, from his sudoers, it looks like he only wants himself to be able to do it, not just anyone.
[04:04] <urlin2u> oooaaaooo, thats backwards it is choose a package then find the repository.
[04:04] <theadmin> Flannel: Oh
[04:04] <Phase> Flannel: hm, still asking for password, and yes theadmin.. only me
[04:04] <Phase> phase@myth:~$ sudo test
[04:04] <Phase> [sudo] password for phase:
[04:04] <Phase> phase@myth:~$ sudo swapoff /dev/sda5
[04:04] <Phase> [sudo] password for phase:
[04:05] <FloodBot1> Phase: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:05] <Phase> 4 lines.. whats the max, 3?
[04:05] <Flannel> Phase: Change the /usr/sbin/yaddayadda to some other arbitrary command, see if it asks for a password.
[04:05] <Phase> alright
[04:05] <urlin2u> oooaaaooo, there might be a way, but I have never done that.
[04:05] <theadmin> Phase: You sure? It's like "username ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /whatever", also it's case-sensetive, just saying
[04:05] <zykotick9> Flannel, would Phase need to log out/back in for those changes to take effect?
[04:06] <Flannel> zykotick9: No, sudo reads sudoers whenever it's run.
[04:06] <oooaaaooo> urlin2u: ok i so when i run apt-add-repository i am adding a repo right?
[04:06] <zykotick9> Flannel, thanks - good to know
[04:06] <Phase> theadmin: That's what I have, zykotick9 I close that terminal and open a new tab just to be safe anyway
[04:06] <Flannel> zykotick9: (which is why you use visudo to edit it, so a syntax mistake doesn't make you unable to fix it)
[04:06] <urlin2u> oooaaaooo, if the repository loads that way I have only used that command with pps'a not real sure of the full use.
[04:07] <fowl> whenever i download say a .zip in chrome and click to open it I get an error with nautilus not knowing how to open it because it's not a folder, how can  fix this so it opens with the preferred program? here's the error I get http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/r9nv64d7/Selection_007.png
[04:08] <Phase> Flannel: That didn't work, I changed it to 'phase   ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /bin/echo' and it still asked for a password. I'm using Lubuntu/LXTerminal encase theres a subtle difference
[04:08] <theadmin> fowl: You have to open it with file-roller
[04:09] <Flannel> Phase: shouldn't be, no.
[04:09] <Flannel> Phase: Are you the only one on this machine?
[04:09] <Phase> Flannel: yeah
[04:09] <urlin2u> oooaaaooo, this might help, you  this was on the web took me 2 seconds two find. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine have to a bit of the work here, if you can.
[04:09] <urlin2u> you have to
[04:10] <cjae> Hi how do I get pcsx 11.04
[04:10] <Phase> Flannel: I even tried opening a new LXTerminal window entirely with no luck
[04:10] <Flannel> Phase: Alright, just for kicks, lets try ALL ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /bin/echo
[04:11] <theadmin> Phase: Make sure that line is the *last line* in the file, i.e. it is *below* the default definitions
[04:11] <urlin2u> cjae https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/pcsx
[04:11] <fowl> are you saying nautilus isn't smart enough to delegate opening a .tar.bz2 to the default program
[04:11] <Flannel> Oh, duh.
[04:11] <fowl> is gnome broken?
[04:11] <Flannel> Phase: yeah, that's your problem, what theadmin said.
[04:11] <Phase> The groups %admin and %sudo are messing it up though?
[04:11] <Phase> (I'm in those groups)
[04:12] <Flannel> Phase: You basically remove your special status by overwriting it later, yes.
[04:12] <Phase> ahh
[04:12] <Flannel> Phase: Just move that line to the end (above the includes, or after the includes if you desire)
[04:12] <Flannel> good catch theadmin
[04:12] <theadmin> Flannel: Thanks
[04:13] <urlin2u> who was that theadmin
[04:13] <cjae> urlin2u: nothing there
[04:13] <theadmin> urlin2u: Sorry?
[04:13] <urlin2u> cjae, not available in Natty in big letters though
[04:13] <oooaaaooo> urlin2u: thanks does a good job explaining the format of the sources.list files but still no info on browsing through any of the added repo
[04:14] <urlin2u> theadmin, just a play on words who was that masked person
[04:14] <oooaaaooo> urlin2u: i mean when you launch synaptic it basically does that doesnt it?
[04:14] <theadmin> urlin2u: ...?
[04:14] <Phase> Flannel, theadmin: Bingo. Thanks guys.
[04:14] <theadmin> Phase: No problem
[04:14] <oooaaaooo> urlin2u: it loads all the packages in all the repos?
[04:14] <ParkerR> usr13, I got bambanx all set up and working :D
[04:14] <urlin2u> oooaaaooo, I think that is not a standard way but a noobs dream, not you per say.
[04:15] <oooaaaooo> urlin2u: huh?>
[04:15] <urlin2u> backwards
[04:15] <urlin2u> oooaaaooo, you fine what you want then find where it's at
[04:15] <Flannel> oooaaaooo: Are you just looking to see the packages in that repo? or do you want to actually browse their descriptions/etc?
[04:15] <theadmin> fowl: That's none of nautilus' buisness. To open a file in the default program, use "xdg-open FILENAME"
[04:15] <oooaaaooo> Flannel: the former
[04:16] <urlin2u> oooaaaooo, it's not a supermarket for shopping, there are 1000's of apps, does not make sense to list apps changing daily in tons of repos.
[04:17] <fowl> theadmin: thank you
[04:17] <oooaaaooo> urlin2u: surely they have an index file... i mean isnt this already being executed in synaptic anyways>
[04:17] <Flannel> oooaaaooo: Just browse to the appropriate repo, and look at either the Packages.gz or Packages.bz2 file (same info, different compression).  For instance: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/
[04:17] <urlin2u> oooaaaooo, as I have tried to say I don'y know in the end, just seems backwards
[04:18] <Flannel> oooaaaooo: I'm not sure if PPAs are structured identically (dists/[version]/[component]/[binary-arch]/) or not
[04:23] <cjae> how do I use this site
[04:23] <cjae> http://www.playdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/11.04
[04:24] <gueriLLaPunK> anyone here installed ubuntu 11.04 on their hp touchpad?
[04:26] <cjae> nm
[04:30] <urlin2u> gueriLLaPunK, you having a problem , or just want to bond?
[04:30] <gueriLLaPunK> lol i dont know how to use meta doctor
[04:30] <gueriLLaPunK> :(
[04:30] <gueriLLaPunK> im trying to install it
[04:30] <gueriLLaPunK> but im lost
[04:30] <FloodBot1> gueriLLaPunK: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:32] <usr13> ParkerR: Very good.
[04:33] <gueriLLaPunK> urlin2u, did u do it already?
[04:34] <gueriLLaPunK> how do i create the 2GB partition in the touch pad with meta doctor?
[04:34] <gueriLLaPunK> im suppose to install ubuntu inside windows and do stuff?
[04:34] <gueriLLaPunK> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:MetaDoctor
[04:34] <urlin2u> gueriLLaPunK, no i don't have one and can't really find a manual on the meta doctor.
[04:35] <gueriLLaPunK> http://www.infogenra.com/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-your-hp-touchpad.html
[04:35] <gueriLLaPunK> trying to follow that gudei. stuck at step 2
[04:35] <gueriLLaPunK> guide*
[04:37] <white_magic> does the default ubuntu install have ssh server installed by default?
[04:37] <urlin2u> gueriLLaPunK, see if the correlates.  http://sharerally.com/?p=52401
[04:37] <urlin2u> this
[04:37] <dexter_e> mine does
[04:37] <gueriLLaPunK> ty will look, urlin2u
[04:38] <urlin2u> gueriLLaPunK, sort of out of my pay rate for sure. ;)
[04:38] <dexter_e> I think any remote image will have ssh sever installed by default so that you can administer your machine for the first time
[04:38] <gueriLLaPunK> lol thx though, urlin2u :)
[04:38] <urlin2u> ;-)
[04:39] <groktar> anyone have time to look at a pastebin for a dhcpd.conf file? i've got it giving out dynamic ips, but it's not handing out the static ones correctly.
[04:40] <theadmin> groktar: You don't really need dhcpcd for static IPs
[04:40] <usr13> groktar: pastebinit /etc/dhcpd.conf  #Let's have a look.
[04:41] <groktar> dhpcd.conf: http://paste.linuxassist.net/215741 /var/log/syslog: http://paste.linuxassist.net/215743
[04:41] <bambanx> s
[04:43] <usr13> groktar: Wrong subnet.
[04:44] <usr13> groktar: You have a fixed IP of 192.168.1.111  but your subnet is 192.168.2.0
[04:44] <usr13> should be 192.168.2.111
[04:44] <usr13> See it?
[04:45] <bundai> ##raid
[04:45] <groktar> gah
[04:45] <TheEvilPhoenix> usr13:  the subnet shouldn't be 192.* at all.  the subnet should be 255.255.255.0 for residential networks
[04:46] <bundai> how go into raid channel ?
[04:46] <TheEvilPhoenix> the default gateway should be 192.168.1.1
[04:46] <TheEvilPhoenix> bundai:  /join ##raid
[04:46] <bundai> theevilphoenix thank you
[04:46] <usr13> TheEvilPhoenix: You are mixed up.  255.255.255.0  is the netmask
[04:46] <groktar> there's already a 192.168.1.1 on the network this one is connected to
[04:47] <TheEvilPhoenix> ah, see at 00:48, i mix stuff up.  usr13 you're right, i misread
[04:47] <TheEvilPhoenix> *slaps self*
[04:47] <usr13> groktar: If you are going to use 192.168.1.111 you would need to change the netmask
[04:47] <groktar> yeah
[04:47] <groktar> i'm really stupid
[04:47] <groktar> terrible terrible copy and paste
[04:47] <groktar> thanks guys
[04:47] <usr13> groktar: So just change 192.168.1.111  to 192.168.2.111
[04:48] <groktar> yup yup
[04:48] <groktar> ty ty
[04:49] <groktar> worked
[04:50] <groktar> i actually wanted 192.168.2.x addresses, just typed them wrong and didn't see it
[04:50] <bundai> hi
[04:50] <bundai> is there anyone who know about h/w raid
[04:51] <usr13> groktar: Not sure about line 8
[04:52] <groktar> hardware raid: plug like-sized drives into raid card, boot computer, look for a prompt to configure raid settings
[04:52] <groktar> :p
[04:53] <groktar> hmm maybe i read the guide wrong
[04:53] <usr13> groktar: Never mind.  Thta's ok.
[04:53] <groktar> kk
[04:53] <usr13> I've just not done it that way.
[04:53] <usr13> YOur good.
[04:54] <usr13> Ok, gotta run.  ttyl all
[04:54] <groktar> now i need to get the local dns working
[04:54] <bundai> groktar I want to replace fail hdd how do that ?
[04:55] <groktar> what kind of setup did you have?
[04:56] <bundai> groktar its raid1
[04:56] <groktar> cool
[04:56] <bundai> groktar i want to repalce faild on
[04:56] <bundai> groktar do you want me to remove array and again add ?
[04:56] <bambanx> i have my gpu in 96 celcius
[04:56] <bambanx> how can i know what is doing this?
[04:56] <groktar> no, i don't nuke the array
[04:57] <groktar> you probably just need to figure out which hdd is bad and replace it
[04:57] <bundai> groktar ok how to chage it is on h/w raid1
[04:57] <groktar> and in the raid menu there should be something about repairing it
[04:57] <groktar> i would assume
[04:57] <groktar> do you know which controller?
[04:59] <Dogears> Hi! Do I get a chance to partition the hard drive on a duel boot install after I press ¨install now¨
[04:59] <i_is_broke> Dogears, yes
[04:59] <urlin2u> Dogears, you don't
[05:00] <urlin2u> Dogears, actuall in something else
[05:00] <urlin2u> do it before hand with gparted then use the something else option Dogears
[05:00] <bundai> groktar ach hba
[05:01] <bundai> groktar achi hba mmio
[05:01] <urlin2u> bundai, english channel
[05:01] <i_is_broke> urlin2u, if hes using a live disk then yes he can part the hard drive that way.
[05:01] <urlin2u> i_is_broke, yes I corrected that thanks
[05:02] <bundai> urlin2u I am define raid controllder
[05:02] <theadmin> urlin2u: Those are abbreviations
[05:02] <theadmin> urlin2u: They're English
[05:03] <urlin2u> ahh, but chatter at the least.
[05:03] <bundai> is there anyone who can assist on HW RAID1
[05:06] <Dogears> urlin2u: thought I had a chance during the install. Will go to Gparted. Thanks
[05:06] <bundai> HI  is there anyone who can assist on HW RAID1, I have config RAID1 Now i want to test it how to do that  ?
[05:07] <urlin2u> Dogears, you can in the something else choice of where you want the OS
[05:08] <gaurav_Ubutnu> my brightness is not getting changed with fn key in ubuntu 11.04
[05:08] <bundai> gry any help reg raid 1 ?
[05:09] <f15hy> Ubuntu noob needs help.. sry in advance
[05:09] <f15hy> I hope this is the right room to help. Im a complete and total novice installing Ubuntu for the first time on an older PC. After installing and first boot, my screen goes to the Ubuntu loading screen (logo is in the middle and dots are under it) and nothing happins. I've installed via ISO DVD dozens of times trying to fix this, and have been lurking on forums all day. the only thing close to the problem im having that i can find is the "black scr
[05:10] <theadmin> f15hy: You shouldn't burn the Ubuntu ISO to a DVD, you should use a CD instead, also burn at a very low speed
[05:10] <theadmin> f15hy: That's all I can get at so far
[05:11] <urlin2u> f15hy, choose the recovery and failsafe at the next gui, get in update/upgrade, and look in additional drivers for any offered
[05:12] <urlin2u> f15hy, your installed just can't get booted right?
[05:12] <f15hy> yes
[05:12] <urlin2u> f15hy, try what I posted, it is a lowgraphics boot
[05:13] <f15hy> Okay thanks
[05:13] <ElTimo> Is there any way to block modules from loading via grub?
[05:13] <bundai>  HI  is there anyone who can assist on HW RAID1, I have config RAID1 Now i want to test it how to do that  ?
[05:14] <rumpe1> ElTimo, yes  (blacklist, update-initramfs)
[05:14] <olabaz> hey I did what I thought was a fresh install over an old copy of linux and i have the same files without having backed them up
[05:14] <ElTimo> rumpe1: You can do that via the grub command line?
[05:14] <olabaz> did i do a fresh install or an upgrade?
[05:14] <theadmin> ElTimo: modulename.disable=1
[05:15] <theadmin> ElTimo: Append that to the kernel line, should work
[05:16] <ElTimo> theadmin: Thanks. Nouveau is being bratty and won't let me even boot far enough to blacklist it.
[05:16] <urlin2u> olabaz, when you installed was it from a booted cd, or pendrive?
[05:17] <olabaz> booted cd
[05:17] <urlin2u> olabaz, what was the new distro?
[05:17] <olabaz> 10.04.3 LTS
[05:17] <sangreal> hi
[05:17] <urlin2u> olabaz, did you choose the whole disc for install?
[05:18] <olabaz> urlin2u, no, only the partition with the old linux and i put reformat and everything
[05:18] <bundai> hi is there anyone who can help to install ubuntu 11.04 on hardware RAID1
[05:18] <sangreal> man irssi
[05:20] <olabaz> urlin2u, i don't have any of the programs i installed but i do have the same files on the desktop
[05:21] <urlin2u> olabaz, in the terminal cat /etc/issue
[05:21] <olabaz> urlin2u, Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS \n \l
[05:21] <urlin2u> olabaz, your set.;-)
[05:21] <olabaz> urlin2u, sweet :P thanks
[05:22] <ElTimo> theadmin: It didn't work :/
[05:22] <urlin2u> olabaz, took a couple of minutes to find that command, no problem
[05:22] <olabaz> what do the \n and \l mean
[05:24] <urlin2u> olabaz, not sure really.
[05:24] <somsip> olabaz: formatting for whenit's shown in MOTD?
[05:28] <anujwalia> Bubbling Maths hit d Appstore. A fun way of Learning Maths http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/bubbling-maths/id458035063?mt=8
[05:28] <anujwalia> Download and Play #Game #Apple #Ipod..
[05:28] <anujwalia> ********** Already more than 20k downloads ********
[05:28] <anujwalia> Grab your game and make your kid a MATHS BOND
[05:28] <FloodBot1> anujwalia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:28] <urlin2u> lol spam
[05:28] <olabaz> oh man all the stuff i was trying to install already comes with 10.04.3
[05:29] <urlin2u> yipee
[05:33] <gmachine_24> using 11.04 and Win7 dual boot, after install of 11.04 win7 does not show up in the boot menu. I need the command please to rewrite or restore ?? grub.
[05:33] <urlin2u> gmachine_24, have you tried sudo update-grub
[05:34] <gmachine_24> urlin2u, no. but I will.
[05:34] <jules> hello, i need help. can anybody tell me the "yahoo plugin" for video/voice chat with empathy? what should i install?
[05:35] <gmachine_24> urlin2u, that seemed to do it. cheers.
[05:35] <urlin2u> gmachine_24, cool, no problem
[05:35] <wg__> helllo
[05:35] <go_U_Linux> hay guys
[05:36] <ElTimo> jules: Empathy doesn't support video for yahoo.
[05:36] <go_U_Linux> just want to ask what audio usb card is support on ubuntu maveric
[05:36] <theadmin> ElTimo: Didn't work, huh?
[05:36] <theadmin> ElTimo: There is an alternative way
[05:36] <ElTimo> theadmin: Lay it on me.
[05:36] <jules> ...no support? i have read...
[05:37] <go_U_Linux> use pidgin
[05:37] <go_U_Linux> much better
[05:37] <jules> what should i install for yahoo video chat in pidgin, can you tell me?
[05:37] <ElTimo> jules: according to this it's not supported, though that could very well be out of date: http://live.gnome.org/Empathy/FAQ#For_which_protocols_does_Empathy_support_audio_and_video_chat.3F
[05:37] <theadmin> ElTimo: Boot with "init=/bin/bash" appended to your kernel line. Then: mount -o remount,rw / ; echo "blacklist your_module" >> /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf ; sync ; mount -o remount,ro / ; reboot -f
[05:37] <go_U_Linux> i think there should be a plugin
[05:38] <go_U_Linux> pidgin is much better
[05:38] <jules> Eltimo, i will read that, thank you
[05:38] <theadmin> ElTimo: Err, "blacklist.conf" rather than "modprobe.conf", sorry
[05:38] <ElTimo> jules: No problem.
[05:39] <theadmin> ElTimo: Actually it can be named anything, but must end in .conf and not be "modprobe.conf"
[05:39] <gaurav_Ubutnu> what is nautilus actions configuration
[05:39] <Book_em_Dano> My pc is displaying a soft-lockup detected on CPU#1 error message during bootup, is this an indictator of data corruption or hardware failure?
[05:40] <ElTimo> theadmin: I'll give that a shot.
[05:41] <theadmin> ElTimo: Is a bit complicated, but basically first you mount your root filesystem read-write, next you add the blacklist option to your config file, next you "sync" to verify the data has finished writing to disk, next you remount the root filesystem read-only again, and, finally, reboot
[05:41] <jules> okie no support for yahoo, :(
[05:43] <abqq> hi using dell inspiron 1300 wifi firmware missing help?
[05:44] <go_U_Linux> you need to find the wifi drivers yourself
[05:45] <go_U_Linux> can you find the maker of the wifi card
[05:45] <go_U_Linux> like run command : lshwd
[05:46] <go_U_Linux> like run command : lspci
[05:46] <go_U_Linux> this should bring up the hardware infos
[05:46] <remington> sg NickServ identify juuhachigou
[05:48] <generalsnus> Hi! Can anyone suggeste a good free program for "Tasks/to-do manager"  .. this tool would be used at a helpdesk for IT, and for personal use aswell
[05:48] <IdleOne> remington: please change your nickserv password
[05:48] <remington> Hello. Ubuntu wont allow me to set my onboard sound to anything above stereo duplex. I want to set it to 5.1 surround as I have it in windows. (I'm on 11.04 x64)
[05:48] <go_U_Linux> Audio usb support please
[05:49] <remington> Yes, I see my mistake Idle0ne, lol
[05:49] <go_U_Linux> Audio usb support please
[05:49] <IdleOne> remington: it happens.
[05:49] <IdleOne> go_U_Linux: Please just ask your question
[05:50] <go_U_Linux> can i have the list Audio usb card support please
[05:50] <Cert> Hello all; I have an issue installing 11.04 x64- I have to install with nomodset, which installs fine.
[05:50] <Cert> After restarting, I get an error involving gconf sanity check
[05:50] <IdleOne> !hql | go_U_Linux there may be info here
[05:51] <IdleOne> hmm
[05:51] <IdleOne> guess not
[05:51] <go_U_Linux> !hql
[05:51] <Cert> "there was an error with the config server ... Exited with code 256"
[05:51] <Cert> I tried sudo chmod 1777 /tmp with no change
[05:52] <NonConformist> ok uummm so i'm installing ubuntu using the frugal install and maybe 5 seconds after i press it RIGHT when it starts copying files the installer crashes.....
[05:52] <NonConformist> any ideas?
[05:53] <IdleOne> !hcl | go_U_Linux there may be info here
[05:54] <Book_em_Dano> My pc is displaying a "soft-lockup detected on CPU#1..." error message which halts bootup, how can I resolve this?
[05:54] <urlin2u> Cert, 2008 post 5 use at your own risk http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=917306
[05:57] <Alpine> lol
[05:57] <Alpine> Amazing how many people can not get past the first page here wow.
[06:03] <IdleOne> Book_em_Dano: from what I have found it seems that error has something to do with the kernel. maybe try asking in #ubuntu-kernel .  good idea to let them know which kernel version you are using.
[06:03] <NonConformist> nobody is able to help me?
[06:03] <IdleOne> launchpad has a few similar bugs logged but they are all very old
[06:04] <remington> Might need to try back another time NonConformist, when more or different people are available who might know how to help you
[06:05] <NonConformist> k =/
[06:11] <srikanth> Hai every one.........;)
[06:13] <srikanth> is ubuntu is safer then Any other OS
[06:13] <Josh_> Sound is not working in my ubuntu
[06:13] <Josh_> what can I do?
[06:14] <SwedeMike> srikanth: that is a matter of discussion, one that is not suited to be had here.
[06:14] <srikanth> @josh Its better to reinstall the os again
[06:14] <remington> Hello. Ubuntu wont allow me to set my onboard sound to anything above stereo duplex. I want to set it to 5.1 surround as I have it in windows. (I'm on 11.04 x64)
[06:14] <NonConformist> ?
[06:14] <NonConformist> srikanth that's not true.....
[06:15] <asher^> will sending a signal to a master process propogate that signal to the child processes too?
[06:15] <Loshki> !sound | Josh_
[06:15] <srikanth> Can i have the breif explanation abt his
[06:16] <Faris> Why do I have to install KDE when removing gnome ? :(
[06:16] <IdleOne> you don't
[06:16] <remington> KDE is bossy? lol
[06:16] <Josh_> Thank you very much Loshki :D
[06:16] <Josh_> Working
[06:16] <Faris> Well when I run apt-get purge liborbit2 I get kde in extra packages to be installed
[06:17] <Guest21250> how to fix proxy setting for ubuntu s/w centre
[06:17] <srikanth> loshki is ubuntu safer then windows
[06:17] <NonConformist> lol
[06:18] <NonConformist> srikanth I believe you were just told that isn't supposed to be discused here
[06:18] <IdleOne> srikanth: this is not a discussion channel it is a Ubuntu support channel. Please take those sorts of meta questions to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:19] <Faris> What's a good command to remove xorg and every gnome/gtk package ?
[06:19] <srikanth> kk,
[06:20] <SwedeMike> !best | srikanth
[06:20] <IdleOne> Faris: did you want to replace gnome?
[06:20] <Faris> no
[06:20] <Faris> Just want to remove it
[06:20] <IdleOne> hmm
[06:20] <Faris> And it forces me to install kde when trying to do so :'(
[06:21] <srikanth> how to download youtube videos
[06:21] <IdleOne> Faris: there is probably a way to do it but I would suggest doing a server install
[06:21] <Faris> It didn't use to in previous versions
[06:21] <Faris> oh what a payne :]
[06:21] <Faris> Thanks anyway
[06:22] <Faris> But that's kinda stupid that it forces u to get kde
[06:22] <Faris> wth
[06:22] <Loshki> Faris: I agree, far easier to do a server install than try and strip down a desktop version...
[06:22] <IdleOne> srikanth: install youtube-dl
[06:22] <glebihan> Faris, I guess you have a package that depends on (gnome|kde)
[06:22] <Faris> yep..
[06:22] <Faris> no no
[06:22] <IdleOne> Faris: not sure why it would force, unless like glebihan said
[06:22] <Faris> it forces me to Download KDE
[06:23] <Faris> here's the thing
[06:23] <Faris> I type in for example
[06:23] <Faris> sudo apt-get remove libgtk2.0-0
[06:23] <IdleOne> please less ENTER and more content :)
[06:23] <Faris> and it tells me :
[06:23] <mr-russ1> Can I upgrade using the GUI to 11.04 from my local mirror, it just rejects it as an invalid mirror.  Is there an option to workaround this/
[06:23] <Faris> the following packages will be installed
[06:23] <SwedeMike> !enter | Faris
[06:23] <Faris> oh
[06:23] <Faris> Sorry ^^
[06:24] <Faris> THe following extra packagtes will be installed: < a pretty long list among which I can read kde stuff>
[06:25] <Faris> And all I do is removing smth. isn't that odd ?
[06:25] <srikanth> i have downloaded the "youtube dl" what's  next step i should do
[06:26] <IdleOne> Faris: must be some dependency thing.
[06:26] <IdleOne> srikanth: now type man youtube-dl
[06:26] <rumpe1> Faris, well... if you remove some gtk-stuff, which is also included in some metapackages, that offers gtk-support, then they also will be deleted.. which not necessarily means, that applications are getting removed. Just as an example.
[06:28] <giantpune> does anybody know of a program for linux or ubuntu that will display the CID for an SD card?
[06:28] <asher^> should sending 'SIGUSR2' to a process kill it?
[06:31] <eng-1____> i have this new lenovo G475 laptop but having problem with my graphics, the resolution and desktop effects are seemed to not working properly
[06:32] <glebihan> Faris, you might want to try "aptitude --show-why remove liborbit2"
[06:32] <IdleOne> asher^: from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIGUSR1_and_SIGUSR2  "sending the Apache HTTP Server a USR1, will ask the server to stop allowing new connections, wait for the current ones to die, reread the config files, re-open its log files, and restart the server, allowing for relatively smooth in-production changes." I imagine SIGUSR2 would act the same.
[06:33] <Faris> Ok  I'll try it
[06:33] <rumpe1> asher^, depends on the process, which has to implement it's handling in some way. There's no default behaviour.
[06:34] <NonConformist> I know you said i should probably wait until more people are on but would it help to force the error again and show the log?
[06:35] <asher^> rumpe1 thanks, php-fpm seems to exit on sigusr if unhandled in the script. are there any signals i can use or create that wont have a behaviour associated with them?
[06:35] <urlin2u> eng-1____, are you fully updated?
[06:36] <rumpe1> asher^, i guess there are usually some of them "free" .. .especially on 64bit platforms.
[06:37] <PDunny> Anyone here familiar with debootstrapping?
[06:37] <glebihan> asher^, what are you trying to achieve ?
[06:37] <Josh_> In linux ips and ports work the same way they work in windows right?
[06:38] <Josh_> if yes , where can I find my local lan ip?
[06:38] <asher^> glebihan i have a php script that accepts signals, since there will be many of these running i figured the easiest way to signal them all would be with killall. the problem is, the rest of the processes that arent running this script exit when i do that
[06:38] <zerocool1234> is there any way to configure diplay settings from server automatically?
[06:38] <srikanth> any download accelator is present in ubuntu
[06:38] <rumpe1> asher^, signal-list: "kill -l"
[06:39] <zerocool1234> is there any way to configure diplay settings from server automatically?	
[06:40] <asher^> rumpe1 thanks. is there any way to know up front which are handled, or do i need to trial and error?
[06:40] <IdleOne> Josh_: ifconfig
[06:40] <glebihan> asher^, you might want to have a look at "man 7 signal", it describes and the different signals, what they are used for and what there default action is (both SIGUSR1  and SIGUSR2 and a default action set to TERM)
[06:41] <Josh_> IdleOne, thanks alot
[06:41] <glebihan> asher^, there are some signals which default action is IGN (ignore)
[06:41] <Josh_> IdleOne, also , how can I configure it?
[06:41] <asher^> glebihan sweet i see those in man kill
[06:41] <IdleOne> hmm, you want to do that in your router I believe
[06:41] <IdleOne> Josh_: #networking might be a place to ask
[06:41] <Josh_> No , In net configuration
[06:41] <Josh_> ohh ok
[06:41] <rumpe1> asher^, i guess you have to check the manual of the application
[06:42] <Josh_> IdleOne, but if you have idea how to change local lan ip?
[06:42] <IdleOne> Josh_: I don't sorry
[06:42] <srikanth> any download accelator is present in ubuntu
[06:42] <Josh_> No problem.
[06:42] <Josh_> thanks though.
[06:42] <zerocool1234> is there any way to configure diplay settings from server automatically?	
[06:43] <zerocool1234> please help me if any one know how to do it
[06:44] <aibrahim> hello
[06:45] <aibrahim> i have that message : Disk failure is imminent, ,how can i define that problem , can i fix that ?
[06:45] <aibrahim> and how can i get more info about this problem
[06:47] <srikanth> josh any download accelator is present in ubuntu
[06:48] <Hyperbyte> aibrahim, backup your data, get a new harddisk.
[06:48] <Hyperbyte> aibrahim, lots of info:  http://www.google.com/#q=Ubuntu+%22disk+failure+is+imminent%22
[06:48] <aibrahim> Hyperbyte, so what is the problem?
[06:49] <Hyperbyte> aibrahim, it's a S.M.A.R.T. error, which is given by the harddisk itself, not by Ubuntu.  S.M.A.R.T. is harddisk self-diagnostics.
[06:51] <IdleOne> srikanth: axel - light download accelerator - console version
[06:51] <Hyperbyte> aibrahim, you can get more info from S.M.A.R.T. with the smartctl command.  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/smartctl
[06:52] <pippeli> PENIS
[06:52] <asher^> thanks for your help with the signals guys, WINCH seems to work perfectly :)
[06:52] <pippeli> PENIS DICK pippeli  ejv  InvalidHandle  naked89  [THC]AcidRain  dfgas  [THC]AcidRain  JoeR1  tntc  yoshx
[06:52] <geirha> aibrahim: I'd boot up into a live session with the Ubuntu CD, connect an external drive that is large enough to hold an image of your failing harddrive, then use ddrescue to store an image of the failing disk on the external drive.
[06:53] <geirha> aibrahim: Later on you can safely mount and copy out important stuff from that image.
[06:53] <aibrahim> geirha, but that hard will dies ?
[06:53] <JoeR1> Excuse me?
[06:54] <IdleOne> JoeR1: was spam, ignore it.
[06:54] <JoeR1> IdleOne, Very well
[06:54] <ElTimo> I just installed gnome 3, and I was wondering how to get it to use the default gnome 3 theme. I know it's possible, but I'm just not sure how.
[06:54] <geirha> aibrahim: It says so itself, and it's probably right. Harddrives don't last forever, and ones it's dead, getting data from it will be hard and expensive.
[06:55] <naked89> I use ubuntu10.04 and I add ppa for transmission,but why can't upgrade trasnmission??
[06:56] <IdleOne> naked89: did you sudo apt-get update after adding the ppa?
[06:56] <JokerSmile> cool
[06:56] <naked89> IdleOne, Yes
[06:56] <IdleOne> naked89: now sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:57] <naked89> IdleOne, still can't
[06:57] <rumpe1> naked89, perhaps upgraded transmission need also several other packages upgraded (libraries)
[06:57] <IdleOne> naked89: any errors?
[06:57] <naked89> IdleOne, no
[06:57] <IdleOne> apt-get install transmission
[06:57] <IdleOne> what happens?
[06:58] <Hyperbyte> geirha, heh... another satisfied customer.  I think he was more looking for the answer "ah, ignore that error, your harddisk is fine" :-)
[06:58] <naked89> IdleOne, google said it would upgrade to transmission2.33,but still transmission1.93
[06:59] <IdleOne> naked89: what happens when you sudo apt-get install transmission
[06:59] <naked89> IdleOne, It installed transmission1.93
[07:00] <naked89> http://www.lffl.org/2011/07/transmission-233-su-ubuntu-da-ppa.html
[07:00] <IdleOne> naked89: can you paste your sources.list to paste.ubuntu.com please
[07:00] <naked89> Ok
[07:00] <naked89> wait
[07:01] <geirha> Hyperbyte: Don't we all? :)
[07:01] <rumpe1> naked89, if you added the ppa and undated your sources-list, you can pin the version in the package-management to the ppa version. Maybe package-management is conservative and takes per default the one, which already is in the default repository.
[07:02] <Hyperbyte> naked89, you did run all three of the commands there?  The apt-get add-apt-repository one and apt-get update one?  And they didn't give errors?
[07:03] <groktar> this is fun -- i have 3 computers.  Computer A is running as NAT, and Computer B is on its lan.  Computer C, which is outside the lan, can ping Computer B, and vice versa.  However, Computer A can't ping Computer B.  any ideas?  if that was a horribly confusing description i can (badly) draw a picture
[07:03] <naked89> http://code.bulix.org/tyoy8o-80465    sources.list
[07:04] <naked89> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:transmissionbt/ppa
[07:04] <naked89> sudo apt-get update
[07:04] <naked89> sudo apt-get install transmission
[07:04] <Hyperbyte> groktar, I think making a diagram of the computers and connections, including ip addresses, subnet masks and default gateway will be a good idea.
[07:05] <naked89> I have followed these three steps
[07:05] <dev1ls> ls
[07:05] <IdleOne> hmm is the lenny repo the one for transmission?
[07:05] <groktar> kk, give me a few minutes
[07:05] <IdleOne> Hyperbyte: PPA gets added to sources.list.d right?
[07:06] <rumpe1> IdleOne, usually
[07:07] <IdleOne> rumpe1: but he is on 10.04 so it would go to sources.list?
[07:07] <rumpe1> IdleOne, hm... good question.
[07:07] <naked89> IdleOne, it do go to sources.list.d
[07:08] <Hyperbyte> IdleOne, no idea about 10.04.  11.04 is my first Ubuntu. :)
[07:08] <toocool> naked89, stick with what you  have or run oneric
[07:08] <IdleOne> Hyperbyte: no problem :)
[07:08] <IdleOne> suggesting oneiric while still alpha is bad advice
[07:09] <toocool> the advice is stick with the version you have
[07:09] <IdleOne> naked89: I am not sure why it is not installing the new version, perhaps remove transmission and then try to install it.
[07:09] <toocool> natty (net): lightweight BitTorrent client [universe]
[07:09] <toocool> 2.13-0ubuntu8: all
[07:09] <toocool> oneiric (net): lightweight BitTorrent client [universe]
[07:09] <toocool> 2.33-0ubuntu2: all
[07:10] <toocool> what is all the need for 2.33 version?
[07:10] <IdleOne> don't know because nothing has changed in it
[07:10] <IdleOne> that I know of
[07:11] <Hyperbyte> naked89, you can always fetch the appropriate .deb file here and install manually I think?  https://launchpad.net/~transmissionbt/+archive/ppa
[07:12] <Hyperbyte> Or can you not download those files manually somehow, IdleOne?
[07:12] <naked89> Hyperbyte, ok I'll try it
[07:12] <IdleOne> Hyperbyte: he could but there will probably be dependency issues
[07:13] <naked89> dependency issues are the biggest problems
[07:13] <Hyperbyte> IdleOne, should be able to be resolved by apt using the main 10.04 repository, shouldn't it?  I mean, it's built against 10.04.
[07:13] <wh1zz0> Hi guys.
[07:13] <IdleOne> Hyperbyte: it's worth a shot
[07:13] <IdleOne> hello wh1zz0
[07:14] <naked89> sorry,i have to go.thank you
[07:14] <Hyperbyte> Good..... luck, too late. :)
[07:15] <wh1zz0> I recently re-installed natty after my previous oneneric install didn't work out well.. Upon my natty installation my hibernate started working perfectly BUT just yesterday the same error I had when I first installed natty started again..I use Dell Vostro 1310, Ubuntu Natty..Please has anyone found a workaround for this because google has proved not to be my friend for now.. :(
[07:15] <geirha> IdleOne: I was a bit too slow, but the problem was probably that the package is called transmission-gtk, not transmission.
[07:15] <groktar> Hyperbyte: http://i.imgur.com/U1lbV.png
[07:15] <wh1zz0> Anytime my computer's battery is low, it goes into suspension mode with two lights flashing on my board
[07:16] <IdleOne> geirha: that makes sense
[07:17] <wh1zz0> I have my computer set to hibernate when battery is low.. It worked flawlessly before until yesterday.. Please any help will be appreciated.
[07:17] <Hyperbyte> groktar, okay, now what can ping what? :)
[07:17] <Hyperbyte> You called them A/B/C before, they're called differently here.
[07:18] <groktar> everything can ping everything else except router 2 to computer 2
[07:18] <Hyperbyte> Run 'ip route show' on router 2 and pastebin.
[07:19] <groktar> i should also mention that router2 is also listening on 192.168.1.221 and has this iptable: /sbin/iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -d 192.168.1.221 -i eth0 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.2.111 #as1
[07:19] <Hyperbyte> That means any packets with destination 192.168.1.221 get intercepted by iptables.  As long as you're not pinging 192.168.1.221 it won't affect.
[07:20] <groktar> http://paste.linuxassist.net/215744
[07:20] <Hyperbyte> groktar, use pastebin.  This one requires username/password.
[07:20] <groktar> doh
[07:20] <groktar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/674340/
[07:21] <Hyperbyte> groktar, why does it say 'src 192.168.2.2' in there?  And 'src 192.168.1.235' ?
[07:21] <Hyperbyte> Those aren't the IP addresses of router 2 are they?
[07:22] <Hyperbyte> According to your diagram, those should be 192.168.2.1 and 192.168.1.237 respectively.
[07:23] <groktar> 192.168.1.237 was a typo, the 192.168.1.235 is correct
[07:23] <Hyperbyte> Else the ping from router 2 to computer 2 gets sent with IP address 192.168.2.2.  Even if router 2's kernel configuration allows that, and the packet goes out, it won't come back to router 2.
[07:23] <groktar> it's listening on both 192.168.2.2 and 192.168.2.1
[07:23] <Hyperbyte> Why?
[07:24] <groktar> i was going to try to setup a second router with keepalived
[07:24] <groktar> so 192.168.2.1 would be a virtual ip, and a third router would take over if the first died
[07:24] <Hyperbyte> Are 192.168.2.1 and 192.168.2.2 seperate network cards?
[07:24] <groktar> same one
[07:24] <Hyperbyte> Hrm...
[07:25] <groktar> and computer 2 can ping both 192.168.2.1 and 192.168.2.2
[07:25] <DroidAgent> Is there an Ubuntu server image that can fetch packages from the net instead of needing a CD?
[07:25] <Hyperbyte> Can router 2 ping all of it's own addresses?
[07:26] <groktar> yes
[07:27] <Hyperbyte> groktar, no idea then.  Theorethically this should work I think.  Try disabling the 192.168.2.2 alias, and restore your IP route to say 192.168.2.1, see if that changes things.  If it doesn't, kill your iptables firewall, see if that changes things.
[07:27] <groktar> kk, will do
[07:27] <Flannel> DroidAgent: During install? or what?
[07:28] <Hyperbyte> Either way, I'd look for the problems in the routing area of router 2.  Perhaps there's some ip rule that's making it difficult?  You can check this with 'ip rule show'
[07:28] <DroidAgent> Flannel: yes... problem is, I have a bootable USB stick but it insists on wanting a CDROM.
[07:28] <Hyperbyte> groktar, either way, I'm off to work now. :-)
[07:28] <Flannel> DroidAgent: Get the mini iso, it downloads packages from the net
[07:28] <Flannel> !mini | DroidAgent
[07:29] <DroidAgent> Flannel: ahh that sounds great... is there one for Server though?
[07:30] <hoobydooby> hello ubuntu!
[07:30] <Flannel> DroidAgent: The mini iso, having no packages on it, can install a GUI-less system as well as a regular desktop.  One of the F keys on the boot menu (they change it, I don't remember what it is now) will allow you to install a text-only system
[07:31] <DroidAgent> Flannel: ahh ok, I'll go with that then, thanks a lot!
[07:31] <hoobydooby> why is my font grey and your black
[07:33] <makara> if I install Ocelot Alpha, will the automatic updates bring it up to the full release in October, or will I have to download that CD again?
[07:33] <hoobydooby> can anyone read me
[07:33] <makara> hoobydooby
[07:33] <hoobydooby> makara: i think you will get the full update
[07:34] <makara> hoobydooby, i'd like to be sure
[07:34] <makara> who would know?
[07:35] <hoobydooby> perhaps one of the developers of it
[07:36] <hoobydooby> thanks makara, have a good night or morning!
[07:37] <IdleOne> makara: yes. keeping up to date will get you the final release but 11.10 discussion in #ubuntu+1
[07:38] <makara> IdleOne, would automatic update convert 10.04 to 11.10 ?
[07:38] <IdleOne> no
[07:39] <IdleOne> you can go from LTS to LTS 11.10 will not be a LTS
[07:40] <makara> IdleOne, help me understand the limitations. What exactly is so fundamental about a release? The kernel keeps changing, so why not anything and everything else?
[07:41] <IdleOne> makara: packages get security updates and bug fixes but if you want newer version of applications you need to either upgrade your OS version or enable !Backports or use !PPA
[07:44] <makara> IdleOne: Ok. So if I've understood correctly, its the selection of what to stick together that makes an Ubuntu release what it is.
[07:45] <IdleOne> makara: yes
[07:47] <makara> !Mythbuntu
[07:51] <naked89> i am back
[07:56] <MK``> What's a nice quick way to create a CD image from a disk?
[07:57] <kv102t> I have ubuntu 10.4 LTS, i would like to update the kernal to 3.XXX  is this possible?
[07:57] <VxQf> MK``, dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/cd.iso
[07:57] <VxQf> kv102t, yes but just wait.
[07:58] <VxQf> Unless you absolutely need a new kernel for some reason. :/
[07:58] <kv102t> VxQf: in a testlab for something else i am working with might require the new kernal.  I would like to try..
[07:58] <VxQf> Well you can compile from source but... I wouldn't recommend it.
[07:59] <MK``> VxQf: will that copy the entire disk regardless of format?
[07:59] <VxQf> VxQf, yes.
[07:59] <VxQf> It will do a direct dump of whatever is in /dev/cdrom into a file
[07:59] <VxQf> byte by byte
[07:59] <VxQf> Just be careful where you output it to.
[07:59] <MK``> ok
[07:59] <VxQf> Because dd doesn't do any checks.
[08:00] <kv102t> VxQf: It's a testlab so no issue there.  I think i hvae found the a sorce.  how do i compile and install?
[08:00] <VxQf> kv102t, if you need to ask that you shouldn't be doing it, tbh.
[08:00] <VxQf> It is not a straight forward thing.
[08:01] <VxQf> http://www.howopensource.com/2011/08/how-to-compile-and-install-linux-kernel-3-0-in-ubuntu-11-04-10-10-and-10-04/
[08:01] <VxQf> This is a tutorial
[08:01] <VxQf> but
[08:01] <VxQf> Be careful. :/
[08:01] <FloodBot1> VxQf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:01] <kv102t> VxQf: we all started somewhere.....
[08:01] <RubenHaan> hi
[08:01] <VxQf> Obviously as soon as you use a custom kernel with ubuntu there is no support for anything. :)
[08:02] <kv102t> VxQf: OK, well it's just testing... Thanks for the link and warning..
[08:02] <kv102t> VxQf: OK, well it's just testing... Thanks for the link and warning.
[08:03] <kv102t> VxQf: Your better than the guy yesturday who told me it was inpossable. I knew he was wrong.
[08:03] <RubenHaan> i just ran into a problem with dual-boot windows/ubuntu. windows dont show up as option on dualboot start. this happened this morning after the lats update of ubuntu. annyone know what the problem can be, and what i can do about it?
[08:03] <VxQf> Nothing is impossible with linux. ~_~
[08:04] <VxQf> RubenHaan, you can update your grub config....
[08:04] <VxQf> Sec.
[08:04] <RubenHaan> hm
[08:04] <RubenHaan> never done that
[08:04] <MK``> Heh. If I right click on a disk and select "Copy disc...", then cancel out, and then click Copy Disc again, Nautilus crashes.
[08:04] <MK``> every time
[08:05] <VxQf> RubenHaan, sudo update-grub
[08:05] <VxQf> Will auto-generate a grub conf file.
[08:05] <JoeR1> I realize this in off topic, but is there anyone who would be willing to give me a hand with conky scripts perhaps in a dialogue window?
[08:05] <JoeR1> in=is
[08:05] <saeid> hi to all friends
[08:06] <VxQf> :/ Don't know anything about conky, sorry JoeR1~
[08:06] <RubenHaan> sudo update-grub is all i have to do and then its okay again? (i have to instruct the windows user to do it)
[08:06] <groktar> so i just spent two hours freaking out about how to computers on my network couldn't ping each other
[08:06] <JoeR1> VxQf, Thanks anyway
[08:06] <VxQf> RubenHaan, that should do it, yes.
[08:06] <RubenHaan> okay thanx
[08:06] <groktar> and it turns out that the windows box just felt like dropping the pings because it's dumb
[08:06] <groktar> :/
[08:06] <urlin2u> JoeR1, I can try
[08:06] <toocool> MK``, try gnomebaker or brasero
[08:07] <MK``> Nautilus's thing works so long as I don't cancel it out
[08:08] <JoeR1> urlin2u, are you in offtopic, that may be a more desirable place to do this
[08:08] <urlin2u> JoeR1, yeah
[08:08] <JoeR1> see you there urlin2u
[08:12] <Josh_> Can I have Gnome in Ubuntu 11.04 instead of Unity?
[08:13] <rumpe1> Josh_, yes. logout-choose "ubuntu classic", login
[08:14] <Josh_> Thanks alot rumpe1
[08:14] <Josh_> Thanks alot rumpe1
[08:20] <RubenHaan> i just heard that sudo update-grub didnt solve the problem. windows still dont apear on the boot menu. only the ubuntu versions
[08:20] <RubenHaan> is there annything more i could try?
[08:21] <zykes-> should i use nscd on servers that have nscd ?
[08:21] <VxQf> Hmm probably.
[08:21] <VxQf> Sec.
[08:21] <zykes-> ehm, nslcd
[08:22] <urlin2u> RubenHaan, not a wubi correct?
[08:22] <RubenHaan> no
[08:22] <RubenHaan> a normal dualboot
[08:22] <RubenHaan> it worked for half a year correct
[08:22] <urlin2u> RubenHaan, more than 1 HD?
[08:23] <RubenHaan> i think its just 1 hd
[08:23] <urlin2u> RubenHaan, have them run this script and pastebin the results.text.  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[08:23] <Merlinux> I can't for the life of me figure out how to remove all the flashy stuff in Ubuntu like transparency, window animations and such.. How do I do this? :s
[08:24] <RubenHaan> urlin2u i think ill go there and run the script myself
[08:24] <urlin2u> RubenHaan, the results text should give us a better idea, it shows what is where.
[08:25] <urlin2u> cool
[08:25] <urlin2u> Merlinux, you could use metacity
[08:25] <RubenHaan> so itll take more then an hour before i am there and log into this irc again (damn my free day is gone :(  )
[08:26] <Merlinux> I can achieve this easily by download Compiz Fusion Icon? :P
[08:26] <urlin2u> RubenHaan, I will probably be gone you want a good one with w7 and natty dual booted
[08:26] <urlin2u> for comparison
[08:26] <RubenHaan> yeah its win7
[08:27] <urlin2u> Merlinux, the icon doesn't work fully in Natty
[08:27] <urlin2u> Merlinux, I can turn you on to another that does though
[08:28] <Merlinux> Ubuntu's changed a lot since I used it back in 06. :P Either I got stupid or it doesn't feel as intuitive anymore..
[08:28] <RubenHaan> well then urlin2u thanx for the help so far. i hope there will be someone later on who know how to help me with this
[08:28] <Merlinux> I'm guessing the first
[08:28] <Pingviller> Merlinux: you're probably just not used to the new interface
[08:29] <urlin2u> RubenHaan, here is mine look for the boot files in both http://paste.ubuntu.com/674371/
[08:30] <Merlinux> Like the launcher thingy to the left.. I want it at the bottom, all slim. And I don't want it to hide.. :s I also want the workspace switcher to be a one-click deal, not having to click on "Workspace Switcher" and THEN click on which workspace I wanna bring up
[08:30] <Merlinux> And in the old Ubuntu, this was easy enough to do
[08:30] <Pingviller> Ok, so I've finally got this installation of request ticket 4 up and running. Everything's great! Now the next problem is to backup everything (mysql and configurations), in case I screw the database migration up. Any pro tips on how to make it 100% re-rollable?
[08:30] <RubenHaan> urlin2u this is like a file that says how grub should start?
[08:31] <Josh_> in Ubuntu 11.04 , How can I activate the high graphic thing.
[08:31] <urlin2u> RubenHaan, it shows where everything is at it is for diagnosing, if you know what to look for
[08:31] <RubenHaan> owkay
[08:32] <RubenHaan> hehe
[08:32] <urlin2u> RubenHaan, mine is working so it is a comparison
[08:32] <RubenHaan> yeah meaby i can compair and then whats different could be where i copy from you
[08:33] <pratham> how to update ubuntu ??
[08:33] <RubenHaan> ill be hearing the whole day how bad linux is :(
[08:35] <pratham> hwo can i update to new version of ubuntu??
[08:35] <urlin2u> RubenHaan, hold on the one I showed is missing a part which is helpful let me get you one with the latest script
[08:36] <IdleOne> !upgrade | pratham
[08:37] <pratham> k got it thx
[08:37] <urlin2u> RubenHaan, this one has where grub is looking and what version of grub top lines.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/674374/
[08:38] <RubenHaan> and whats the name of this file?
[08:38] <devurandom> Hi!
[08:38] <mr-russ1> quit
[08:40] <rockthegod> hello!
[08:40] <devurandom> I just installed Win7 x64 and then Ubuntu 11.10 alpha3 (oneric), but there is no boot selection being displayed. The system boots straight into Win7. I also tried to use EasyBCD as described in the official wiki, but that starts a "grub4dos" with / being the Windows partition.
[08:40] <iceroot_> devurandom: #ubuntu+1
[08:40] <devurandom> thx
[08:42] <Merlinux> And now I have magically made my menus disappear. :D
[08:43] <Merlinux> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Metacity?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=metacity.1.none.png <-- Whatever happened to this nifty place? :s
[08:44] <urlin2u> RubenHaan, they were both bootscripts run different versions, one a bit older, strange thing though is both show grub legacy in the extended partition, I had openSUSE, sda2 should not be showing any grub.
[08:44] <RubenHaan> hm
[08:44] <bullgard4_> When will be deleted the contents of /tmp/?
[08:44] <RubenHaan> i have no experience wit openSUSE
[08:45] <iceroot_> bullgard4_: reboot
[08:46] <urlin2u> RubenHaan, some of the regulars who can read this script will be on around 3;00 am pacific NW they are in england I think.
[08:46] <urlin2u> 1;46 am now
[08:46] <RubenHaan> okay thats nice
[08:48] <Merley> And now I broke it..
[08:49] <de> hi
[08:50] <Merley> Window manager error: Unable to open X display
[08:50] <Merley> :|
[08:50] <MK``> VxQf: "dd: reading `/dev/cdrom': Input/output error" the disc reads fine...
[08:50] <bullgard4_> iceroot_: Where is this laid down?
[08:50] <Merley> Maybe, just maybe I shouldn't be using Linux after all..
[08:51] <iceroot_> bullgard4_: its a tmpfs
[08:51] <iceroot_> bullgard4_: if i am correct
[08:52] <bullgard4_> iceroot_: Thank you.
[08:53] <Pingviller> Ok, so I've finally got this installation of request ticket 4 up and running. Everything's great! Now the next problem is to backup everything (mysql and configurations), in case I screw the database migration up. Any pro tips on how to make it 100% re-rollable?
[08:53] <rumpe1> iceroot_, so if /tmp is a tmpfs, will it be listed by "mount" ?
[08:53] <RudyValencia> How do I find out how much memory actually is free from the output of the "free" command?
[08:53] <VxQf> MK``, your drive might be under something different...
[08:54] <VxQf> RudyValencia, it's the one on the second line
[08:54] <VxQf> basically whatever is free + the cache
[08:54] <rumpe1> RudyValencia, free +- buffers/cache
[08:54] <RudyValencia> The "+/- buffers/cache" line?
[08:54] <VxQf> Yep.
[08:54] <RudyValencia> oh
[08:54] <pipeline_> hello
[08:54] <RudyValencia> My Ubuntu server is only using 139M RAM :D
[08:55] <MK``> Where can I look for the location?
[08:55] <RudyValencia> though my Ubuntu VPS uses more RAM than my local server...
[08:55] <VxQf> Good question, give me a minute.
[08:55] <pipeline_> could someone help me with router issues?
[08:56] <VxQf> MK``, type "mount" and look for something that says "type udf"
[08:56] <VxQf> or similar.
[08:57] <VxQf> Or pastebin if you're not sure.
[08:58] <MK``> this is all I see (aside from 2 other lines with my ecrypt stuff) http://pastebin.com/9sZtgDTf
[08:59] <VxQf> The cd is mounted right?
[08:59] <MK``> yes
[08:59] <MK``> I was just listening to it X)
[09:00] <iceroot_> rumpe1: ots not so i am not sure if it is tmpfs
[09:00] <VxQf> Hmm
[09:00] <VxQf> that is wierd.
[09:00] <iceroot_> RudyValencia: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[09:00] <RudyValencia> OK
[09:00] <MK``> Unless Audio CDs are mounted differently somehow?
[09:00] <VxQf> Shouldn't do.
[09:01] <VxQf> That is pretty odd.
[09:01] <MK``> The location of the disk is given as "cdda://sr0/"
[09:01] <eQuiNoX__> hey guys, im wanna manually compile and install execstack - where can i find its source?
[09:01] <VxQf> Ok, that is helpful
[09:01] <VxQf> dd if=/dev/sr0 of=cd.iso
[09:02] <qweqq> Hello, is there any way to make resolv.conf check other nameservers as well when the first nameserver can't find the requested domain name ?
[09:03] <MK``> Nope... same error. Maybe it is not mounted?... but being sort of streamed from the disk?
[09:03] <VxQf> Shouldn't need to be mounted
[09:03] <VxQf> try unmounting it?
[09:03] <Shambler[Bishop> nautilus should make the "error copying 'x' file" prompt more prominent, e.g. in its own window, as it often happens that I completely miss it it when I have a lot of windows open
[09:04] <MK``> There's an option to eject it, but not to unmount it with it still in the drive.
[09:04] <VxQf> just type umount /dev/sr0
[09:04] <VxQf> or uhm
[09:04] <VxQf> sudo umount /dev/sr0
[09:04] <Shambler[Bishop> also, the "error copying 'x' prompt" seemed to freeze >ALL< of nautilus, including windows totally unrelated to it, until I found the prompt and closed it
[09:04] <MK``> "umount: /dev/sr0 is not mounted (according to mtab)"  @_@
[09:05] <VxQf> Right.
[09:05] <VxQf> So maybe try mounting it?
[09:05] <VxQf> lol
[09:05] <VxQf> This is odd.
[09:05] <Merley> If I managed to make all the menus and everything disappear so I'm left with only the cursor and the external HDD I had mounted, that exist as an icon on the desktop.. How do I fix this? :s
[09:05] <MK``> "mount: can't find /dev/sr0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab" very odd
[09:07] <Shambler[Bishop> also, when connecting using smb in nautilus, it doesn't show a prompt that it's trying to connect...it takes up to 30 seconds for a prompt to appear when it tells you times out
[09:07] <Shambler[Bishop> it times out *
[09:07] <abhishekpathak_> must be a ssh issue not nautilus
[09:07] <Shambler[Bishop> I'm not greatly experienced with ubuntu, is it generally this unpolished?
[09:08] <rockthegod> i installed ubuntu 11.04 in my win7 laptop on a seperate partition from an installation cd , now not able to view ubuntu while booting and booting straight to windows. could anyone help me?
[09:08] <VxQf> MK``, you need to specify a destination
[09:08] <szal> MK``: audio CDs aren't mounted; what's the problem?
[09:08] <VxQf> sooo sudo mount /dev/sr0 /mnt
[09:08] <VxQf> szal: they aren't?
[09:08] <MK``> I wanted to dd it
[09:08] <VxQf> We're trying to make an image via DD although as far as I know that shouldn't require it to be mounted.
[09:09] <rockthegod>  i installed ubuntu 11.04 in my win7 laptop on a seperate partition from an installation cd , now not able to view ubuntu while booting and booting straight to windows. could anyone help me?
[09:09] <Shambler[Bishop> also...samba seems to work >really< poorly/slowly with detecting and transferring to windows shares
[09:10] <dc5ala> rockthegod, try to hold shift key on bootup to get to the menu
[09:10] <rockthegod> thanks dc5ala
[09:10] <rockthegod> will try it
[09:10] <max9ai> Hello all. I trying to associate .vym files with VYM, but 'file' command tells that its a zip-archive (these files are really just zipped xml and pictures). I tried to add 'application/x-vym    vym' line in /etc/mime.types but it's doesn't work. Does anyone know how to add new mime-type properly?
[09:11] <rockthegod> any permanent solutions ?
[09:11] <Pingviller> if I for some reason cannot access my web server next to me, just after installing pptpd, where do I need to reconfig? I just get an infinite waiting timer. Yes the web server works to connect to localhost and surf
[09:11] <MK``> I figured audio discs might not be mounted since they do not contain a data file system, I just don't know where the system 'sees' it.
[09:12] <dc5ala> rockthegod, don't know where grub the bootmanager is installed, you may look for a bios bootmenu, e.g. some are on F8
[09:12] <theadmin> MK``: The cdrom device is normally /dev/sr0
[09:12] <qweqq> Hello, is there any way to make resolv.conf check other nameservers as well when the first nameserver can't find the requested domain name ?
[09:13] <Shambler[Bishop> is ubuntu in general, an extremely unpolished OS?
[09:13] <MK``> theadmin: the location is given as "cdda://sr0/", but I can't dd from /dev/sr0 it seems
[09:13] <theadmin> MK``: That's awkward
[09:14] <theadmin> Shambler[Bishop: Linux in general is more or less unstable and unpolished, you can't do anything with that.
[09:15] <Shambler[Bishop> hmm ok, that's a pity; why is it like that? I would have assumed, since Ubuntu tries to be a desktop OS replacement, that there would be quite a lot more QA and polish
[09:15] <szal> theadmin: no, it's not, you cannot dd audio CDs, I've noticed that years ago already
[09:15] <theadmin> Shambler[Bishop: Why? Well, because it's not dead.
[09:15] <Shambler[Bishop> how do you mean?
[09:16] <Merley>  If I managed to make all the menus and everything disappear so I'm left with only the cursor and the external HDD I had mounted, that exist as an icon on the desktop.. How do I fix this? :s
[09:16] <theadmin> Shambler[Bishop: Constantly, programs get developed, new features get added, and so on. New features introduce new bugs.
[09:16] <szal> MK``: if you want to copy an audio CD, you rip the tracks to WAV
[09:16] <MK``> I want a bit-for-bit image of this disc :(
[09:17] <Merley> Then you should be using EAC or XLD. :)
[09:17] <Shambler[Bishop> that's fair enough, it just seems something as simple as the file manager (nautilus has been around a long time has it?), would be relatively well polished by now. do many people work dedicatedly with ubuntu development?
[09:17] <theadmin> Shambler[Bishop: Well quite a lot do. What's wrong with nautilus, anyway?
[09:17] <linuxuz3r> nautilus rocks
[09:17] <Shambler[Bishop> mostly it's fine
[09:17] <Shambler[Bishop> but it has a lot of bugs, and is needing polish
[09:17] <MK``> Merley: what names shall I look for in the software center?
[09:18] <MK``> Yeah I like Nautilus, but it still crashes on me more than it should
[09:18] <Merley> MK``: Win32 and OSX. ;)
[09:18] <Shambler[Bishop> don't get me wrong, the foundation's of Ubuntu seem great, but well...it can't compete as a desktop OS unless a ton of stuff gets polished
[09:18] <linuxuz3r> what polishing should it need?
[09:19] <Shambler[Bishop> there's lots of little niggling problems which have taken hours away from me trying to fix
[09:19] <theadmin> Shambler[Bishop: It used to be the most popular desktop Linux distro for ages, so you're wrong there
[09:19] <UbuntuVx> what's the best system backup app for ubuntu 10.04?
[09:19] <Merley> It's not really looking to compete though, is it? :S
[09:19] <Merley> Being free and all
[09:19] <Pingviller> I did something to bork apache2, error.log here http://pastebin.com/WRyBetu5... what to do? Thanks!
[09:19] <Shambler[Bishop> well, polish as in fix all of the small niggling problems with the UI, and which require a large amount of googling/time to fix
[09:20] <Shambler[Bishop> yes but linux desktop OS don't compete well against mac and win32; I don't want to turn this into a win vs linux thing, I just >objectively< see a lot of things needing polish in ubuntu, that would throw off the non-computer-savvy user
[09:20] <th0r> Shambler[Bishop: we did that on purpose to keep them away
[09:20] <Merley> ;)
[09:20] <Shambler[Bishop> Merley: maybe it isn't; I appreciate that it's free, I thought it was trying to compete as a desktop OS though
[09:21] <Merley> Ubuntu isn't for non-computer savvy people
[09:21] <Merley> Like me
[09:21] <Merley> Definitely not for me. :(
[09:21] <Shambler[Bishop> th0r: heh, yea that's painful even for experienced users too ;)
[09:21] <MK``> It's on its way. Linux successfully cornered the server market, it just needs more time in the desktop
[09:21] <Merley> I only keep breaking Ubuntu
[09:21] <th0r> Shambler[Bishop: not really. linux is a geek thing, and most script kiddies will never understand it
[09:21] <szal> MK``: you can make an audio CD image with cdrdao -> cdrdao read-cd --device ATAPI:/dev/sr0 --datafile CD.bin CD.cue
[09:22] <MK``> thanks szal I'll try that
[09:22] <Shambler[Bishop> well servers are one thing. server admins need a lot of computer-experience anyway, so they are in their element. in its current state, to compete as a desktop OS it needs to be more polished
[09:22] <linuxuz3r> szal, what does sr in sr0 stands for?
[09:22] <theadmin> Shambler[Bishop: Please stop that, as it's not a support question of any sort.
[09:22] <szal> MK``: that'll give you a .bin file containing the audio data, and a .cue file containing the track metrics
[09:22] <bais> hi there is a good irc client for ubuntu?
[09:22] <linuxuz3r> szal, what about my question
[09:23] <MK``> bais: xchat, irssi, several of them :D
[09:23] <linuxuz3r> bais, xchat
[09:23] <Merley> I, on the other hand, actually need support before I end up having to re-install Ubuntu all together..
[09:23] <Merley> And I repeat: "If I managed to make all the menus and everything disappear so I'm left with only the cursor and the external HDD I had mounted, that exist as an icon on the desktop.. How do I fix this? :s"
[09:23] <theadmin> Merley: Which Ubuntu version is that?
[09:23] <MK``> Merley: do Alt-f2 and alt-f3 work?
[09:23] <theadmin> Merley: Meh, either way, a reboot should help
[09:24] <Merley> I've tried rebooting but they won't come back. :'(
[09:24] <Merley> 11.04
[09:24] <bais> I'm using x-chat but I feel it too much raw, there is some script for enhanced it ?
[09:24] <MK``> bais: I'd ask in #xchat , xchat has lots of scripts
[09:25] <bais> oh there is a channel for it too :)
[09:25] <MK``> freenode has a channel for most major software projects
[09:26] <theadmin> bais: You can search for channels like this: /msg alis list #*searchterm*
[09:27] <Arthur> Could somebody help me please? I'm using Microsoft Corp. LifeCam VX-1000, Cheese makes it work, but I can't still manage to make it records voice, I really need to make it work with the sound too, the sound used to be recorded well with my old microphone while using Audacity
[09:28] <Merley> MK``: They do not work.
[09:28] <MK``> Hm, so gnome is likely dead.
[09:28] <Merley> As gnomes should be
[09:28] <Merley> :P
[09:28] <Merley> Abominations!
[09:29] <Merley> But yeah.. I'm guessing I can't fix it
[09:29] <Merley> :(
[09:31] <Merley> Oh well
[09:32] <Merley> Guessing people have no idea wtf I managed to do so I'll just reinstall Ubuntu from scratch
[09:33] <rhin0> no idea how you made the menus disappear Merley -- try another window manager?
[09:33] <Merley> How?
[09:33] <rhin0> try right clicking and creating a task bar?
[09:34] <rhin0> try right clicking on the desktop
[09:34] <rhin0> are you running unity or what
[09:36] <WiCkD1> hello.
[09:37] <casey> is there any reason why the shortcut "Super+A" would not be working for me on a fresh install of Natty?
[09:38] <Merley> rhin0: I can't create a taskbar.
[09:38] <doritoDan> Hey guys.
[09:38] <Merley> Unity?
[09:38] <doritoDan> I'm trying to type "$" into the Ubuntu terminal, but it does something weird
[09:38] <doritoDan> where it just transforms the input marker into "(arg: 3)"
[09:39] <theadmin> doritoDan: That'd happen if you hit Alt+3...
[09:39] <rhin0> on clicking on user yu select the desktop you want from the bottom of the screen menu
[09:39] <casey> doritoDan: there is no need. It starts all entries in terminal automatically :).
[09:39] <abhishekb> can anybody tell me how to download youtube videos on ubuntu 11.04 minitube is not working
[09:39] <casey> is there any reason why the shortcut "Super+A" would not be working for me on a fresh install of Natty?
[09:39] <rhin0> abshisekb -- plugin called 'videodownloadhelper' on firefox
[09:39] <rhin0> works well
[09:39] <doritoDan> casey: What does that mean? Sorry, I'm somewhat new to mid-level Linux.
[09:40] <abhishekb> thanks rhin0
[09:40] <theadmin> abhishekb: There're plenty of online Youtube converters and/or downloaders. If you use Opera, the "ExtendTube" extension may be helpful.
[09:40] <casey> doritoDan: please try and tell me again. Are you trying to follow a command in terminal from reading online or something else?
[09:41] <Cacique> qual o canal em portugues do ubuntu hein??
[09:41] <casey> is there any reason why the shortcut "Super+A" would not be working for me on a fresh install of Natty?
[09:41] <Merley> Think I'mma install an older version of Ubuntu instead.
[09:41] <theadmin> !br | Cacique
[09:41] <Cacique> valeu
[09:42] <gour> morning...i'm not using ubuntu (atm i run freebsd), but in a few days i'd like to install ubuntu on my friend's netbook - lenovo with ati hd6310 graphic. here (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver) i see the following: "These cards should work with Ubuntu Natty/11.04, however you will need a more recent version of Mesa (7.11.x) than Natty's default (7.10.x) to get 3D acceleration. " what does it
[09:42] <gour> mean in practice?
[09:42] <abhishekb> whenever i switch to unity2d half of my taskbar remains white and close min. max. buttons disapperar from it wat to do ?
[09:43] <rhin0> means you have to get a proprietary driver gour --- you will find it on the ati website mayb e
[09:43] <theadmin> Merley: Consider Xubuntu. It's great, and Xfce feels a lot like Gnome2
[09:43] <max9ai> Please, I need this answer, google doesn't help.
[09:43] <urlin2u> abhishekb, have you tweaked compiz?
[09:43] <casey> is there any reason why the shortcut "Super+A" would not be working for me on a fresh install of Natty?
[09:44] <rhin0> or through system > preferences > additional driuvers  gour after updating the system
[09:44] <gour> rhin0: so, no luck with open-source driver?
[09:44] <urlin2u> should be applications gour
[09:44] <abhishekb> yup
[09:44] <rhin0> gour quite often the proprietary driver is up to date it says from what you said there is a drive r-- jsut get it
[09:44] <urlin2u> abhishekb, whats you goal with compiz
[09:44] <rhin0> is more up to date
[09:44] <theadmin> casey: Compiz not running?
[09:44] <Merley> theadmin: All I wanted was to remove the flashy stuff.. and I ended up breaking stuff. ;)
[09:44] <rhin0> depends on the manufacturer
[09:44] <casey> theadmin: Compiz is up and running.
[09:44] <Goku283> lol
[09:45] <doritoDan> casey: Yeah, I'm trying to SU
[09:45] <rhin0> so yuo've been deleting thints merley
[09:45] <theadmin> Merley: Well, xfce isn't flashy :D
[09:45] <gour> rhin0: well, i'd prefer open-source driver...i also avoid propr. ones
[09:45] <Olleh> casey, i have no idea what "Super+A" is supposed to do. Maybe it was a custom keyboard mapping that you had setup somehow. Use System>Preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts to remap it.
[09:45] <doritoDan> er, sudo
[09:45] <theadmin> casey: Install and open ccsm, and see the shortcuts there
[09:45] <doritoDan> Are you saying the $ is unecessary?
[09:45] <theadmin> doritoDan: Normally isn't
[09:45] <rhin0> gour - the manufacturer may on occasion be able to supply a more advanced driver (particularly for desktop effects / 3d effects)
[09:46] <theadmin> doritoDan: $ is for variables, like $HOME or $USER
[09:46] <gour> rhin0: yeah. i'ma aware of it. my friend (she) wants to enjoy wathing movies as well
[09:46] <casey> theadmin: I already have ccsm. Where are the shortcuts listed? BTW, this shortcut should come default on unity. It's to open the Applications lens of the dash.
[09:47] <Merley> rhin0: Apparently I have. :s Was trying to activate metacity and something went wrong. :)
[09:47] <rhin0> just google for the driver / source
[09:47] <theadmin> casey: Oh... I don't know anything about Unity
[09:47] <casey> Olleh: I can't follow your path. I'm on natty. Where should i go if i'm on unity?
[09:47] <casey> theadmin: darn. Any ideas where shortcuts are normally stored on any ubuntu models?
[09:48] <Olleh> ive got no idea about unity either. when gnome went that direction, i installed Debian.
[09:48] <doritoDan> theadmin: Well, why is this guide asking me to put  $ before my sudo then?
[09:48] <doritoDan> I don't understand what it's for. :-/
[09:48] <theadmin> doritoDan: $ normally indicates the $PS1
[09:48] <casey> dorritoDan: In other words. The "$" is done for you :).
[09:48] <Cacique> hmm '-'
[09:48] <gour> another question: what do you think about unity vs. gnome-3 for (ex.) window user? what's easier?
[09:48] <theadmin> doritoDan: Like the prompt, you have something like "username@ubuntu:~$ " in front of the place where your commands are typed
[09:48] <Olleh> doritoDan: if you look at your command prompt (as a normal user) it will end in a $ to indicate thats where you start typing.
[09:48] <theadmin> gour: KDE.
[09:49] <doritoDan> Yeah, I understand that the prefix is automated.
[09:49] <doritoDan> I'm just wondering what it's for. :)
[09:49] <casey> dorritoDan: So no need to retype it again :).
[09:49] <doritoDan> AYE.
[09:49] <gour> theadmin: for me kde is too bloated...never tried gnome-3 and i use xfce
[09:49] <doritoDan> …Aye*
[09:49] <RudyValencia> It's to let you know what user, server, and user type you are.
[09:49] <casey> dorritoDan: Oh ok. Out of my realm of knowledge.
[09:49] <Olleh> $ = normal user, # = root. its just a visual indicator
[09:49] <doritoDan> Ah, ok.
[09:49] <doritoDan> Cool.
[09:49] <RudyValencia> er, user, system, and user type.
[09:49] <doritoDan> What I'm trying to do is install Unity 2D onto an Ubuntu virtualization.
[09:49] <theadmin> gour: Well, I use Xfce as well, but for Windows users KDE is the simpliest option
[09:50] <doritoDan> Couldn't get it to work though - it couldn't find certain files.
[09:50] <casey> is there any reason why the shortcut "Super+A" or "Super+F"  would not be working for me on a fresh install of Natty? Any answers on this? Even guesses will help.
[09:50] <theadmin> gour: XFCE is good too if configured properly
[09:50] <doritoDan> Is there a Unity channel?
[09:50] <bittin_> doritoDan: #ayatana
[09:50] <theadmin> Olleh: Heh, with my modifications it's "+" for normal user and "!!!" for root :D
[09:50] <theadmin> Olleh: But yeah, normally that's so
[09:50] <Olleh> haha cool. i like the exclamation marks warning you not to be stupid with commands :D
[09:51] <doritoDan> Thanks.
[09:51] <gour> theadmin: if i'd like to put xfce on the machine, is it available in ubuntu repos, or one has to install xubuntu? (i run freebsd and will return soon back to arch)
[09:51] <Shambler[Bishop> how do I restart samba? service smbd/nmbd restart doesn't work
[09:51] <Shambler[Bishop> same with sudo /etc/etc.../ restart
[09:51] <Shambler[Bishop> can't find the service in both cases
[09:51] <theadmin> gour: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[09:52] <szal> Shambler[Bishop: sudo stop smbd && sudo stop nmbd && sudo start nmbd && sudo start smbd <- mind the order here
[09:52] <Shambler[Bishop> ya but those services don't exist apparently
[09:52] <gour> theadmin: thanks
[09:52] <tester> HI everybody
[09:52] <szal> Shambler[Bishop: if they don't exist, you don't have samba installed
[09:52] <diimdeep> Hello, it's possible to redirect some port through apache(80 port), for example localhost:79 -> localhost:80/something/ ??
[09:53] <Shambler[Bishop> is samba only the server component of file sharing then, or is it required to connect to a share on windows as well?
[09:53] <Olleh> diimdeep: look up mod_proxy
[09:53] <szal> Shambler[Bishop: if you connect to a share on another machine, you obviously need a client
[09:54] <szal> Shambler[Bishop: with the server you can offer shares on the network from your machine
[09:54] <Shambler[Bishop> so is the samba service also part of the client?
[10:02] <bambanx> guys how i can make a log of my outputs on my shell on ubuntu?
[10:04] <Shambler[Bishop> ok, samba (client) seems to have broken entirely in ubuntu even after a restart *sigh*
[10:04] <Shambler[Bishop> like pulling teeth
[10:05] <Shambler[Bishop> what's a good way to troubleshoot this? I'm lost
[10:05] <dc5ala> bambanx, explain what you are trying to achieve
[10:06] <bambanx> list
[10:06] <phrip> does anyone know a way of putting everything on my screen through a visual effect (eg blue tinting) without affecting my ability to interact with the OS? Is there a way i could use an API in a language like Java to do it? Is there somewhere else i should be asking this question?
[10:07] <wildbat> !compiz | phrip
[10:07] <jrib> phrip: define "everything"
[10:07] <phrip> every visible pixel on my screen
[10:08] <wildbat> !ccsm | phrip
[10:08] <jrib> phrip: ah I see what you mean now
[10:08] <phrip> oh cool
[10:08] <phrip> thankyou very much
[10:08] <Wapi> hi, is there a way for launching a command every time you conect to a network ?
[10:08] <dc5ala> bambanx, what list?
[10:09] <fmauro> Wapi: yes, look for network-manager dispatcher.d script folder.
[10:09] <jrib> Wapi: yes, see iptables example
[10:09] <Wapi> thanks fmauro and jrib
[10:09] <jrib> !iptables | Wapi
[10:10] <jrib> Wapi: dispatcher.d is also documented in networkmanager's man page
[10:10] <turkmen> dear all, could you please help me with Proxy problem
[10:10] <jrib> turkmen: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[10:11] <Wapi> yep jrib reading it right now !
[10:11] <Wapi> seems like that is exactly what I was looking for, thanks a lot
[10:11] <TomasHanzel> Hi all...i have zorin os, based on Ubuntu 10.04. can you tell me please, how can i change bootscreen? any link or sth?
[10:13] <turkmen> I install NOD32 to my Ubuntu 11.04, try to update over Enterpice Proxy server, change Nod settings to proxy with autorization (account and password), but can not to update
[10:13] <wildbat> !plymouth | TomasHanzel
[10:13] <TomasHanzel> wildbat: thanks
[10:14] <turkmen> who can help with NOD32 proxy settings??????
[10:14] <muneeb> is it ok to delete /boot/burg? i want my old grub2
[10:16] <theadmin> turkmen: NOD32? That's more of a Windows question.
[10:16] <turkmen> I know, but Windows must to die, so why I come to ubuntu support!!!!!!
[10:16] <wildbat> them have linux port now :p , never used it thou
[10:17] <tomekh> I'm looking for simple musicbrains tagging shell script. Don't want to use Picard or Kid3. Any suggestions, please? Do I need python-musicbrainz2?
[10:17] <muneeb> !burg
[10:18] <rhin0> python is part of linux -- simpler than shell scripts
[10:18] <turkmen> theadmin: could you please recomend me IRC chat, where I can find an answer for my questions?
[10:18] <rhin0> you will find more up to date -- python scripts just run the same as shell scripts tomekh
[10:19] <muneeb> is it ok to delete /boot/burg to get back grub2?
[10:19] <turkmen> NOD32 for Linux installend on my Ubuntu!
[10:19] <theadmin> muneeb: Won't work
[10:19] <theadmin> muneeb: You need to sudo apt-get install grub-pc
[10:20] <muneeb> theadmin, okay thanks
[10:21] <wildbat> turkmen:  double check the proxy server you've entered if it is correct (ask the IT department if you need) and ask NOD32 for its tech support
[10:22] <turkmen> wildbat: Proxy server ip-10.157.19.3:8080, domain- burren-nd, user-visitor, password-*******
[10:23] <wildbat> turkmen: there is no way we can tell if it is correct .
[10:24] <turkmen> wildbat: with this proxy setting Firefox work properly, and Skype too
[10:24] <wildbat> then ask nod32's tech support :)
[10:26] <threexk> Does anyone know a tool to diagram digital logic from a set of equations?
[10:26] <threexk> wrong channel
[10:30] <Arthur> hello, could u guys please tell me a program for make a video? I just need to put a .wav in a photo which would last like 30 seconds
[10:30] <Arthur> i want to upload it in youtube xD
[10:34] <Doc_CoBrA> list
[10:34]  * starlon checks it twice.
[10:35] <phinoy> .t
[10:41] <ace> hey... how  do I fix my transmission torrent client. It fails to download anything whenever I try
[10:42] <DrGrov> Can I somehow activate my iPhone 4 in Ubuntu without needing to use iTunes?
[10:45] <cmr> I have added a .conf file for a service in /etc/init/ on a lucid box, and have tried a few different ways of making it start upon boot: runlevel, start after another service. also, my new service is listed in initctl list but not by service --status-all. any idea what I might be doing wrong=
[10:46] <zth> i've recently tried kernel 3.0 via oneiric-repos, and accidently upgraded some other packages aswell from my natty. is there a way to reverse this and make sure all packages i have are for natty and not oneiric?
[10:47] <th0r> cmr: I don't think you don't put a conf file there, you need an executable script that runs the service.
[10:48] <cmr> th0r, for upstart?
[10:48] <jrib> zth: you probably have a partial upgrade to oneiric at this point...
[10:49] <zth> jrib, yes, i remember seeing that!
[10:49] <zth> and clicking yes, stupid me..
[10:49] <jrib> zth: I assume it was a lot of packages?
[10:49] <cmr> th0r, /etc/init.d/ has executable scripts, yes, but that's for old sysv-init scripts
[10:49] <zth> jrib, not that much, but a couple
[10:49] <th0r> cmr: ok
[10:49] <jrib> zth: weird, but you can try downgrading them if you want
[10:49] <jrib> cmr: you should pastebin the .conf  you created
[10:49] <zth> jrib, how do i do that?
[10:50] <jrib> zth: apt-get install package=version
[10:50] <jrib> zth: and you should disable the oneiric repository
[10:50] <zth> jrgifford, would that mean apt-get install package=natty ?
[10:50] <theadmin> zth: No, something like apt-get install firefox=3.5
[10:51] <jrib> zth: no, apt-cache policy will show you versions.  If you want to specify release I think the syntax is "package/natty"
[10:51] <zth> ok, thanks. but i dont know what packages was upgraded in the partial upgrade, is there a way to find that out?
[10:53] <theadmin> zth: You can't normally downgrade
[10:56] <orchata> Is there an alternative to nokia pc suit for linux?
[10:56] <swe3tdave> how come i boot up, i start firefox, thunderbird, xchat, and more than 1GB of memory is beeing used up already..
[10:56] <DroidAgent> Slightly offtopic, but does anyone know if new EC2 accounts take a while for instances to become available after initial signup?
[10:56] <orchata> Or is there a way to get access to messages that are stored in cell phone? Because my screen is not working.
[10:56] <theadmin> swe3tdave: Firefox.
[10:57] <zth> theadmin, i can't downgrade?
[10:57] <PolitikerNEU> Äh - ist es "schlimm", wenn man auf einem 8 GB-System unabsichtlich ein 32bit-Linux installiert hat?
[10:57] <PolitikerNEU> sorry, fc
[10:57] <swe3tdave> theadmin, why firefox take so much memory?
[10:57] <PolitikerNEU> Well - is it problematic to have a 32-bit-Linux installed on a 64bit-System?
[10:57] <theadmin> PolitikerNEU: Ich glaub so, ja, aber die Deutsche Support ist in #ubuntu-de
[10:58] <PolitikerNEU> Yeah, touchpad has made me switch the chnnel
[10:58] <PolitikerNEU> Well - I should add that I got 8 GB RAM
[10:58] <theadmin> PolitikerNEU: If you want to use more than 3GB RAM on a 32-bit system, consider using PAE
[10:58] <theadmin> !pae | PolitikerNEU
[10:59] <PolitikerNEU> I think ubuntu has installed it automatically: uname -a results in Linux robert-notebook 2.6.38-11-generic-pae #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 29 20:51:21 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[10:59] <theadmin> PolitikerNEU: Sounds good then
[10:59] <cmr> jrib, do you have a preferred pastebin in this channel?
[11:00] <jrib> cmr: paste.ubuntu.com exists, but we don't really care which you use
[11:00] <theadmin> cmr: None really, any will do as long as it's family-safe (i.e. no porn ads or something)
[11:01] <cmr> jrib, ok. this is /etc/init/sshtunnel.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/674446/
[11:02] <kevor> hullow, I can't seem to set my wireless card to master mode, error:
[11:03] <kevor> http://pastebin.com/x7N5RMVz
[11:03] <zth> so there is no way to easily reverse a partial upgrade?!
[11:05] <bamcris> how do i remove kde from ubuntu?
[11:07] <natrixnatrix89> hi guys.. Is it possible to select layers in gimp simply by clicking them?
[11:09] <CajunTechie> Bamcris: I think you can sudo apt-get remove kde-full IIRC
[11:11] <drpars> s.a
[11:14] <Lantizia> Hey can you just stick "-minimal" on the end of any package name to get less dependancies?
[11:14] <Lantizia> I'm looking for a package that www.spectrum.im swears blind exists called libpurple0-minimal... but only libpurple0 exists
[11:14] <glebihan> !puregnome | bambee
[11:14] <glebihan> !puregnome | bamcris
[11:14] <glebihan> bambee, sorry wrong nick
[11:15] <busigast> Hello ! :) i have a dell vostro 3350 but i cant get the wireless to work, everything else works )= can anyone help me ?
[11:15] <phinoy> hi! is there a way to list all the installed packages in my machine using apt-get? thanks.
[11:16] <glebihan> phinoy, not with apt-get but "dpkg-query -l" does that
[11:16] <Myrtti> Lantizia: no, you can't stick -minimal to the end and expect the package exists
[11:17] <phinoy> thanks, I'll try that
[11:17] <Tonton> just installed ubuntu on a fairly newer computer, ethernet isn't working properly need to find drivers for network card i assume, can anybody point me in the right direction?
[11:17] <Lantizia> Myrtti, but according to http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/libpurple0-minimal it doesn't
[11:17] <Tonton> also running in failsafe graphic mode just to see the display
[11:17] <Lantizia> Myrtti, yet you do an apt-get install on that package name and it works
[11:18] <cmr> jrib, I checked the syslog, and apparently the script was started before networking went up. I used the solution on http://serverfault.com/questions/117584/upstart-scripts-run-a-task-after-networking-goes-up to fix it.
[11:18] <p1l0t> When I try to open this pdf file (from a government source) I get: To view the full contents of this document, you need a later version of the PDF viewer. You can upgrade
[11:18] <p1l0t> to the latest version of Adobe Reader
[11:18] <p1l0t> They must have created it with the new propietary adobe version
[11:19] <p1l0t> Any work arounds for this? my google searches haven't been helping
[11:19] <Myrtti> Lantizia: well it might work on your computer if you've got some extra software sources (repositories) that come with that package, but it is not in the official repositories, and it doesn't work for me
[11:20] <glebihan> Lantizia, it only works because there is a package named libpurple0-minimal, but there's no general rule (and most packages don't come with a -minimal version)
[11:21] <p1l0t> There appears to be a bug filed for evince but not fixed yet
[11:22] <p1l0t> I remember you used to be able to do something on command line, convert it to something and back and it would work but I forgot what it was and don't know if it still works..
[11:23] <glebihan> p1l0t, I think this may be because the document contains some fields that can be filled up
[11:24] <glebihan> p1l0t, I've never been able to open those files with anything else than acroread
[11:25] <p1l0t> glebihan: Thanks, and yes it does have fields to be filled in.
[11:26] <glebihan> p1l0t, you're welcome
[11:28] <Chrisu> hi... Can anybody help me on 11.04 with the 5.1 surround? I can't make it work..
[11:30] <smok_> why i can register? al time nickserv tell me my e-mail is not a valid address :S
[11:30] <smok_> i cant*
[11:31] <glebihan> smok_, please join #freenode for registration questions
[11:31] <Chrisu> hi... Can anybody help me on 11.04 with the 5.1 surround? I can't make it work..:(
[11:32] <smok_> join #freenode
[11:33] <p1l0t> smok_ /join
[11:33] <Chrisu> is it for help? or what
[11:33] <smok_> lo, thanks
[11:33] <glebihan> !patience | Chrisu
[11:37] <monty156> i have a non ubuntu question but i have no idea where to ask. are you guys gonna go mental if i ask here?
[11:37] <Aquix> yes
[11:37] <Aquix> but try
[11:37] <Chrisu> lol
[11:37] <monty156> lol thanks
[11:37] <Aquix> go for it
[11:38] <zth> is there an easy way to find out if i have any packages installed that are in higher version then the ones i have in my repos?
[11:38] <ox3a> Can i use Ubuntu on Macbook without any problem(Primary OS)?
[11:38] <monty156> i just found a great game online playable in terminal by typing telnet telehack.com. dont know if you guys have heard of it. just wondering if anyone knows of any forums or an irc channel where i can get help? or how to find such a channel?
[11:39] <Aquix> ox3a - macs can be tricky. But there is a mac section on ubuntuforums
[11:39] <monty156> also if you havent heard of it, try it its great lol
[11:39] <ox3a> Aquix, i see... Tricky is not good if Ubuntu is primary os
[11:40] <Aquix> ox3a - I only know there can be issues. If they are hard to fix or not I have no clue
[11:41] <glebihan> Aquix, you should not have told to try
[11:41] <glebihan> monty156, as you said this is offtopic here...
[11:42] <Aquix> I told you monty156    someone would go mental   ;P
[11:42] <monty156> glebihan: sorry i thought it was a longshot. sorry all
[11:45] <viro> мне сказали что тут можно получать квалифицированную помощь пользлвателям gnu/linux? это так?
[11:46] <gneral> viro, turkish please
[11:46] <bazhang> !ru | viro
[11:47] <navarro> anyone with BT5?
[11:47] <gneral> !tr | gneral
[11:47] <bazhang> navarro, in the #backtrack-linux support channel
[11:48] <navarro> need some proxy.. any advice?
[11:48] <bazhang> navarro, ask in their channel, it's not supported here
[11:49] <navarro> is there a channel for ymlf?
[11:49] <bazhang> !alis | navarro have a look
[11:49] <navarro> thnx
[11:50] <navarro> any advice for hardening ubuntu firewall?
[11:50] <IdleOne> navarro: #ubuntu-hardened
[11:50] <navarro> is there any conf file to edit?
[11:50] <navarro> (>_<)
[11:51] <navarro> file loc?
[11:51] <m|kael_> is there any easy way to integrate google's mail and calendar into ubuntu for use instead of evolution?
[11:52] <glebihan> navarro, what firewall are you using ?
[11:52] <navarro> can i run x.org file to Access GUI on ubuntu server?
[11:53] <navarro> i guess i have no firewall? just install ymlf any there it is
[11:54] <bazhang> navarro, bt5 and ylmfos are not supported here, please dont ask for help with them
[11:54] <REK_007> how to know which services are enabled on start up ? and how to disable them
[11:54] <navarro> is there a default firewall in ubuntu? i mean when u install ubuntu..there  is a hidden process for the firewall software
[11:55] <pacs> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu 10.4. I have noticed it's using "IcedTea Java 6 Web Start" to run an application through the browser, but it's not working in this computer. In the other one it works just fine and I'm using Openjdk 6 Web Start. I wonder how can I make this Ubuntu 10.4 use Openjdk 6 Web Start???
[11:55] <bazhang> !iptables > navarro
[11:56] <pzn> I have a new notebook, it came with win7 and I used it for one week. yesterday I installed ubuntu 11.04 desktop 64. with ubuntu it works for a few minutes and everything locks. ctrl+alt+f1 login "ps aux" many processes are "D" waiting for disk. what should I do now? model is HP G42-321BR
[11:57] <navarro> is there any binary module for PXPerl in ubuntu?
[11:57] <pacs> How can I make my Ubuntu 10.4 use Openjdk 6 Web Start instead of IcedTea Java 6 Web Start?
[11:57] <bazhang> navarro, apt-cache search *term* and find out
[11:58] <pacs> (I haven't found it on Ubuntu Software Center)
[11:59] <pacs> :(
[12:00] <m|kael_> why cant i change prefered e-mail application from evolution to gnome gmail?
[12:00] <IdleOne> pacs: there is a openjdk-6-jdk but I don't know about the Web Start you are mentioning
[12:01] <Pici> pacs: If you have the suitable packages already installed, then you can use sudo update-java-alternatives
[12:01] <pacs> IdleOne: I installed this one, but when I try to run the app Firefox only showes me "IcedTea JAva 6 Web Start"
[12:02] <IdleOne> pacs: follow Pici's advice
[12:02] <pacs> in my other version of Ubuntu, it has two packages, OpenJDK Java 6 Runtime and OpenJDK Java 6 Web Start
[12:09] <pacs> Does anyone know where I can get the .deb file one would get through apt-get?
[12:10] <bazhang> pacs, packages.ubuntu.com
[12:11] <xander> Hi everyone, I can't update my system because download of one update archive gets stalled midway.
[12:12] <xander> The offending file is http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/nvidia-current_280.13-0ubuntu1~maverick~xup1_amd64.deb
[12:12] <abhishekpathak> xander: what is the error msg you are getting
[12:12] <jjp> Hi !
[12:12] <bittin_> Hi
[12:12] <xander> I've tried manually with wget and axel but no luck with either
[12:12] <xander> The error I get is "Connection failed"
[12:12] <abhishekpathak> xander: what is the error msg you are getting
[12:13] <xander> "Please check your internet connection"
[12:13] <abhishekpathak> xander: are you able to download the other packages?
[12:13] <xander> Yup.
[12:13] <jjp> Does anyone know which script or binary actually decide to force a fsck after a certain period or a certain number of mount operations without being checked ?
[12:13] <xander> Even axel gives up on this archive.
[12:14] <abhishekpathak> you can choose to install selected packages only
[12:14] <makara> hi. i want to install LibreOffice on 10.04 so that it gets the updates. What to do?
[12:14] <abhishekpathak> do you use the update manager or apt-get?
[12:14] <xander> abhishekpathak: Already doing that.
[12:14] <noid> m
[12:14] <noid> m
[12:14] <xander> abhishekpathak: Update manager, apt-get, all of 'em
[12:14] <noid> n
[12:14] <noid> n
[12:14] <Pici> noid: stop that
[12:14] <FloodBot1> noid: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:14] <abhishekpathak> xander: so just update all the other packages and leave this offending package alone
[12:15] <xander> abhishekpathak: Even a wget on that file in a terminal atalls midway through the download.
[12:15] <xander> atalls->stalls
[12:15] <abhishekpathak> it is most probably experiencing some problems with the ppa maintainers part
[12:15] <xander> I can update my system but unfortunately that package is the latest nVIDIA driver, which is a crucial part of the update...
[12:15] <pacs> Do you guys know where I can get support about Java? (Java Web Start, most specifically)
[12:15] <abhishekpathak> even update manager will use wget internally if its not in the debian repos as in a ppa
[12:16] <Pici> pacs: did you read what I said for you to do earlier?
[12:16] <abhishekpathak> xander: register a bug report complaining about this to the ppa maintainer
[12:16] <bazhang> abhishekpathak, ubuntu repos you mean, I suppose
[12:16] <xander> That's what troubles me. Why should wget or even axel stall midway on a package?
[12:17] <abhishekpathak> xander: you can always get other versions of nvidia and noveau drivers for the time being
[12:17] <abhishekpathak> xander: maybe the server handling the ppa is refusing persistent connections
[12:17] <xander> Anyone here can test download this package to see if it is not a connection problem at my ISP or somehing?
[12:17] <Pici> xander: I'm not having any issues downloading that here.
[12:17] <abhishekpathak> xander: or maybe the problem is from your network
[12:17] <xander> Pici: You've got the *whole* ~55 MB thing?
[12:17] <abhishekpathak> Pici: it seems xander's network is causing the problem then
[12:18] <Pici> xander: yes.
[12:18] <pacs> sorry, I hadn't read Pici. Messagens go away too fast in this room.
[12:18] <xander> OK. It's my network then.
[12:18] <xander> Lousy BSNL.
[12:18] <Pici> pacs: If you have the suitable packages already installed, then you can use sudo update-java-alternatives
[12:18] <abhishekpathak> bazhang: ubuntu repos, debian repos - potato patato
[12:18] <xander> Pici: Can you upload that archive to mediafire or someplace please?
[12:18] <pacs> Pici: aw, ok.
[12:18] <Pici> xander: I'll pm you a link.
[12:19] <elfranne> is there a way to specify a listenning port on a vnc viewer ?
[12:19] <Iamalinuxn00b> What is a swap partition used for and how big should it be_
[12:20] <abhishekpathak> Iamalinuxn00b: swap functions as a RAM backup on the hard disk
[12:20] <bazhang> !swap | Iamalinuxn00b
[12:20] <abhishekpathak> Iamalinuxn00b:  recommended swap : twice of ram
[12:21] <mockas> bitcoin-otc
[12:21] <abhishekpathak> Iamalinuxn00b: however if you have 4 gigs of RAM and do not use heavy softwares,there really is no need to swap
[12:22] <elfranne> Iamalinuxn00b, swap partition = pagefile.sys file on windows , also called virtual memory
[12:22] <Iamalinuxn00b> abhishekpathak: I actually have 3GB of RAM. How big should it in that case?
[12:22] <Iamalinuxn00b> Because 6GB of a swap partition seems huge.
[12:22] <abhishekpathak> Iamalinuxn00b:  do you use any heavy software which eats a lot of RAM?
[12:23] <abhishekpathak> Iamalinuxn00b: allot 1-2 GB to swap at max
[12:23] <xander> Pici: I didn't receive any link yet...
[12:23] <Pici> xander: I pmed it to you. Check your other windows.
[12:23] <elfranne> Iamalinuxn00b, unless you plan to use very big file, like Video Editing and Iamge editing you don t need a lot
[12:23] <abhishekpathak> xander:  lol.wierd situation you are in.
[12:24] <xander> abhishekpathak: Thank BSNL for that. :-D
[12:24] <xander> Pici: Just post the thing here please...
[12:24] <abhishekpathak> xander:  hmm...you in India?
[12:24] <Pici> xander: I'd perfer not to, it is on my personal web server.
[12:24] <xander> abhishekpathak: You betcha!
[12:24] <Iamalinuxn00b> elfranne: I think I'll keep use the same size as my physical RAM = 3GB
[12:24] <onil> how to delete a Oracle 11g database(ukgmdev) service from linux sever
[12:24] <onil> I want to remove the existing oracle database- orcl1 and want new service instead - newOrcl
[12:24] <abhishekpathak> xander:  Pici  http://dpaste.com
[12:24] <Pici> xander: send me a private message then and I'll respond.
[12:24] <xander> Pici: OK. Wait sometime. Thanks
[12:25] <elfranne> elfranne, should be more than enough :)
[12:25] <abhishekpathak> xander:  Where in India? :)
[12:26] <elfranne> about Swap : I got a server with 36GB ram so it asked for 72GB swap ... a bit overkill :p
[12:26] <Pici> elfranne: swap should only be more than ram if you plan to hibernate or if you have a low amount of ram.
[12:26] <abhishekpathak> elfranne:  lol.The icing on the cake would be to run nested joins on mysql on that involving tables of 10^6 or more
[12:27] <Olleh> i use 100meg swap on my 4gig machine. Swap should be used as an emergency buffer so linux dont go crazy OOM killing stuff if you max out your memory. It shouldn't be used as an extension of RAM.
[12:28] <abhishekpathak> Olleh:  yeah,the swap=2XRAM rule used to be applicable in 1 GB Ram days....
[12:28] <elfranne> Pici, on server it can saves from crashing when you got bad coders
[12:28] <Olleh> yeah, that rule is now obsolete.
[12:28] <Calinou> lol
[12:28] <abhishekpathak> elfranne:  still man, 72 Gigs ! :D :D
[12:29] <elfranne> abhishekpathak, it asked for it, i did not put 72G :p
[12:29] <elfranne> is there a way to specify a listenning port on a vnc viewer ?
[12:29] <abhishekpathak> abhishekpathak: just curious,how many people here prefer to use ubuntu LTS/xubuntu/lubuntu etc ...not unity
[12:29] <Pici> !polls
[12:30] <abhishekpathak> got it
[12:30] <abhishekpathak> !polls
[12:30] <abhishekpathak> oh.cool. (I'm new to IRC)
[12:30] <elfranne> ah :p
[12:36] <DerekOakley> Hi, is it possible to access a share using samba with a system user
[12:36] <DerekOakley> I've tried given it a password with passwd and smbpasswd
[12:38] <gugugaga> have any of you having this problem ? when log in , suddenly the ui change to custom and all these appear "classic" window look
[12:41] <gugugaga> anyone here ?
[12:42] <auberj> hi!
[12:42] <auberj> IRC confuses me so much! just got xchat on joliOS
[12:43] <abhishekpathak> auberj:  Hello.
[12:45] <compdoc> DerekOakley, what do you mean a system user?
[12:49] <gugugaga> why ubuntu gui auto change to custom when ubuntu classic is selectted ?
[12:51] <Gibby> I am on 10.04, virt-manager is at 8.2.... is there a repo for newer versions of virt-manager?
[12:51] <cmr> is it possible to disable reboot, so that even the administrator of the system cannot reboot the system?
[12:51] <iceroot_> cmr: no
[12:52] <iceroot_> cmr: there are so many ways to trigger a reboot, you cant disable that. also there is nothing higher then root, how should enable the reboot-feature again?
[12:52] <cmr> iceroot_, ah. point :)
[12:52] <compdoc> virt-manager 0.8.6 on Natty
[12:52] <cmr> iceroot_, well, but is there a way to disable the "reboot" command, short of removing the binary?
[12:53] <ubuntu_> leszek
[12:53] <iceroot_> cmr: what about "init 6", "shutdown -r now" and so on?
[12:53] <iceroot_> cmr: also there are some files in /proc where you can pipe a "1" inside to reboot
[12:53] <iceroot_> cmr: ctrl + alt + del
[12:54] <iceroot_> cmr: magic syskey and so on
[12:54] <ubuntu_> Does anybody know that if I install Ubuntu I will have to create disk partitions myself?
[12:56] <ani> Hi,I am using Ubuntu 10.04,and trying to run iReport sh file from terminal.and getting "java.awt.HeadlessException".
[12:56] <cmr> iceroot_, those are less of a problem. soon, I won't have physical access to the system. shutting down the system would thus be idiotic. I _might_ get caught in a moment and try to reboot the machine from remote though, and this box has the peculiarity that it will lock up soon after rebooting.
[12:56] <ani> How could I solve this?
[12:57] <rumpe1> ubuntu_, you can also use existing (free) partitions for ubuntu
[12:57] <fu86> hi
[12:57] <kevin___> i try to connect wirelessly to my router, i get the list of connections available and when i click mine and put the password in it connects but i cant get internet, any ideas why? its BT homehub2
[12:58] <ani> I have paste the exception in dpaste.please follow the url "http://dpaste.com/602495/"
[12:58] <wolfric> Is it possible to record when you lock your screen?
[12:59] <iceroot_> cmr: only root can do a reboot and every user which have sudo rights to that command
[12:59] <iceroot_> cmr: so think about a good roles in your scenario instead of removing binarys
[12:59] <davro> Ubuntu does not support chmod +a : invalid mode: `+a' guess I will have to install and setup acl
[13:00] <iceroot_> davro: what should chmod +a do?
[13:01] <davro> iceroot_ all three user, group, others, is the same as ugo
[13:01] <rumpe1>  davro you mean a+
[13:01] <cmr> iceroot_, I'm the sole administrator of this box. disabling the reboot command would be a way of preventing temporary confusion to cause problems :)
[13:02] <iceroot_> cmr: and remove the init command and remove the shutdown command
[13:02] <iceroot_> cmr: maybe also the restart command
[13:02] <iceroot_> cmr: you see, your idea is useless
[13:02] <sabeur> salut
[13:02] <iceroot_> cmr: just dont give other users root access
[13:03] <iceroot_> cmr: also when others have root access there can be bigger problems then rebooting a machine
[13:03] <rix1234> How to enable a smart card on linux. i am using Aladdin etoken 72K, can anyone plz help me...
[13:03] <pinoyoragon> My 11.04 is behaving erratically. When it boots, the screen ots normal againblanks, when i restart the pc for several times (more than 3) then it bo
[13:03] <iceroot_> cmr: what about "halt, shutdown -h, init 0 and so on? what about dding sda with zero?
[13:04] <pinoyoragon> RETYPE(previous post with TYPO): My 11.04 is behaving erratically. When it boots, the screen blanks, when i restart the pc for several times (more than 3) then it boots normally.
[13:04] <rix1234>  How to enable a smart card on linux. i am using Aladdin etoken 72K, can anyone plz help me...
[13:04] <cmr> iceroot_, of course, I can't cover every case, just enough to make me realize the mistake of rebooting the machine. I think I know what I'll do instead. binaries in /usr/local/bin will override those in /usr/bin, right? so I'll make shell scripts in there for reboot and restart, that tell me to don't reboot the machine.
[13:05] <iceroot_> cmr: ....
[13:05] <iceroot_> cmr: no
[13:05] <pinoyoragon> This happened after i removed the Bumblebee program (for optimus support on nvidia)
[13:05] <iceroot_> cmr: as i said, its useless there is always one more method to reboot then you block
[13:05] <iceroot_> cmr: just think about a good role-concept
[13:05] <iceroot_> cmr: if someone has root-access then he can do everything
[13:06] <iceroot_> cmr: think about if he really needs root-access
[13:06] <cmr> iceroot_, I'm the sole user with root access. this is for stupid mistakes committed by _me_ :)
[13:07] <iceroot_> cmr: there are so many mistaked you can do as root
[13:07] <iceroot_> cmr: why do you need a root-shell?
[13:07] <Pici> cmr: Just avoid using sudo when you don't need to.
[13:07] <iceroot_> cmr: again! (and the last time) think about the role-concept instead of patching some scripts
[13:08] <cmr> iceroot_, I will think about the role concept. but I also see no harm in patching a few scripts, just in case.
[13:08] <davro> rumpe1 no +a so I can do something like this sudo chmod +a "www-data allow delete,write,append,file_inherit,directory_inherit" app/cache app/logs
[13:08] <davro> sudo chmod +a "yourname allow delete,write,append,file_inherit,directory_inherit" app/cache app/logs
[13:08] <rix1234> On which irc can i get help for working of smart cards on linux
[13:09] <iceroot_> !sudo | cmr
[13:09] <pinoyoragon> Where should i start looking into if my box(11.04) does not display anything after the grub splash during boot. But after i restarted the machine for 3-5 times, then it goes back to normal.
[13:09] <rumpe1> davro, ok... so you need acl, not chmod
[13:09] <uosiu> Hi all. I have ubuntu 10.04 LTS with upstart. I've added configfile generator for MPD into it's initscript. How to force to start mpd *AFTER* start of networking?
[13:09] <cmr> iceroot_, perhaps I could disallow my regular user from running reboot via sudo? is that what you're implying?
[13:10] <iceroot_> cmr: no
[13:10] <iceroot_> cmr: just dont type sudo reboot
[13:10] <davro> rumpe1 yup seems that way :|
[13:11] <cmr> iceroot_, I know that I can be terribly confused at times, and do terribly stupid things. this is to potentially prevent this particular mistake in the future :)
[13:11] <ani> Hi,I am using Ubuntu 10.04,and trying to run iReport sh file from terminal.and getting "java.awt.HeadlessException".
[13:11] <ani> I have paste the exception in dpaste.please follow the url "http://dpaste.com/602495/"
[13:12] <fppp> I wish linux hadn't turned into windows 95
[13:12] <jrib> fppp: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> fppp: it hasnt
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> ani: what java are you using?
[13:13] <ani> ActionParsnip: sun java 1.6
[13:13] <kingofswords> windows isnt in my boot menu how do i fix this?
[13:14] <fppp> ubuntu crashes all the time, a lot of software incompatibilities and general grief... I used debian unstable from 97-2005, at that time everything worked much better than either debian stable or ubuntu does know, for the past few years it has been progressively degrading
[13:14] <ani> ActionParsnip: I am using java version "1.6.0_20"
[13:14] <jrib> fppp: please ask a support question
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> kingofswords: try:  sudo apt-get install os-prober; sudo os-prober; sudo update-grub
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> fppp: if you don't like it, don't use it. The only person making you use it, is YOU
[13:15] <davro> cmr just put this in the users .bashrc   alias shutdown='exit'
[13:15] <zetu> hellloo
[13:15] <kingofswords> ok
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> fppp: this is a support channel only, not a bad mouthing channel. None-support topics are humoured in #ubuntu-offtopic as you have been informed
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> davro: nice :)
[13:16] <kingofswords> ActionParsnip, nah still noit showing
[13:17] <kingofswords> ActionParsnip, james@ubuntu:~$ sudo os-prober
[13:17] <kingofswords> /dev/sda1:Microsoft Windows XP Professional:Windows:chain
[13:17] <mintie> I can't boot from a disc at all; my laptop skips whatever disc I insert and goes straight to Ubuntu, regardless of whether I select the disc or not. What do I do?
[13:17] <fppp> I guess part of the reason why stuff keeps getting worse is because a lot of people in the open source community never want to hear anything about anything wrong and instead always replies with something like "don't use it then" or "submit a patch"...  but yeah sorry.. I'll stop now...
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> fppp: thanks
[13:17] <kingofswords> brb reboot
[13:18] <jrib> fppp: file a bug, but complaining in a support channel instead of asking for support with a specific issue is just a waste of your time and ours
[13:19] <kingofswords> ActionParsnip, no still not in boot menu
[13:21] <kingofswords> anyone else got ideas why windows isnt in my boot menu
[13:24] <fmauro> kingofswords: if windows is on a bootable partition and grub is working, update-grub should recognise it. But as that is not working I suspect there might be something up with your windows partition
[13:25] <kingofswords> fmauro, just reinstalled windows and got into it...but when i livecd grub install it i update-grub and now not there
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> kingofswords: you may be able to boot to the Windows CD, reinstate the windows bootloader, then boot to Ubuntu liveCD and install grub, should pick up the dual boot
[13:25] <kingofswords> ActionParsnip, thats what i did but with fresh install of windows
[13:26] <fmauro> kingofswords: how did you partition the drive
[13:26] <kingofswords> previously to that i fixmbr in the recovery panel
[13:26] <kingofswords> fmauro, i didnt partition...i just overwrote my previous windows install
[13:27] <goldsniper_> hi
[13:27] <kingofswords> i edited menu.1st a while ago..maybe i messed something up in that?
[13:27] <dub54> hey, what command will list all open files?
[13:27] <goldsniper_> anybody here?
[13:27] <Pici> dub54: lsof
[13:27] <dub54> Pici: thanks
[13:27] <fmauro> kingofswords: yes k, post your menu.lst pls
[13:28] <kingofswords> ok 2 secs
[13:28] <goldsniper_> hi all ubuntu master
[13:28] <bazhang> kingofswords, menu.lst is not in grub2
[13:28] <goldsniper_> i 'm trying to figure out why my lap port no working
[13:28] <kingofswords> bazhang, maybe thats the problem
[13:29] <kingofswords> i may have create one
[13:29] <goldsniper_> LED is not on on my lan port
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> goldsniper_: does the lan connection work though?
[13:29] <ben42> hello, sommebody knows how to disable all the notification popup (finished download etc ...)
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> ben42: in which app?
[13:30] <ani> ActionParsnip:what shall I do?
[13:30] <ben42> is it apps related or is it globaly disablable
[13:30] <francos-desktop> hi
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> ani: not sure, just wanted to get the java version into the details.Not something I use
[13:30] <kingofswords> fmauro, http://pastebin.com/mrQwqQGu i think i pasted the 1st 3 lines from a tutorial maybe thats problem
[13:30] <ben42> ActionParsnip, oh apparently app-related well filezilla and firefox so far
[13:30] <ben42> most anoying
[13:31] <ben42> well i think i know how to disable it in firefox about:config
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> ben42: you should be able to disable it per app, you may be able to remove the notify-osd thing but I'm not sure how ingrained it is in the OS
[13:31] <fmauro> kingofswords: if you are in fact using grub, then you should remove these lines and repeat the automated steps from before
[13:31] <ben42> ok, i'll start  with the apps then, thx
[13:32] <kingofswords> fmauro, ok ill try that...i also have a menu_back up file with just these 3 lines..can i delete this file?
[13:32] <fmauro> kingofswords: no need
[13:33] <kingofswords> fmauro, wont let me edit menu.lst
[13:33] <hiwk> how do I change start of week day in gnome calendar? (or whatever that dropdown menu is called)
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> kingofswords: there is no menu.lst now
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> hiwk: http://soniahamilton.wordpress.com/2008/02/06/change-first-day-of-week-in-ubuntus-gnome-calendar/ may help
[13:34] <kingofswords> i dont have write permission with menu.lst so cant delete it either
[13:34] <contrast> Greets, everyone... I've got some broken packages after trying to upgrade: http://pastebin.com/gtfHCFuY (methinks the most relevant error is on line 11). Any ideas?
[13:34] <dashavoo> What is the easiest way to setup whole-disk encryption post-install? (assuming that there is a way)
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> kingofswords: if you prefix with sudo, you can do as you please
[13:34] <knapper_tech> can i modify etc hosts to point multiple domains to the same IP?
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> knapper_tech: yes
[13:35] <gldsnpr> contrast : are you at the terminal
[13:35] <contrast> gldsnpr: yep
[13:35] <fmauro> kingofswords: you will have to be root
[13:35] <knapper_tech> ActionParsnip:   will multiple entries bound to the same IP "just work" ?
[13:35] <zykes-> anyone here know what files are used for what in ubuntu 8.04 regarding nscd and ldap ?
[13:35] <kingofswords> ok
[13:36] <MrNibbles> hey everyone
[13:36] <MrNibbles> is there a good alternative to Charles for re-directing external web resources to local?
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> knapper_tech: sure, the system will simply resolve the name using the hosts file as it takes precedence over the other name resolve methods and find the name, then resolve it to othe IP
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> knapper_tech: the fact it is the same as something else is not an issue, it will simply be resolved
[13:37] <gldsnpr> anybody can help me with my laptop disabled lan port, please query me
[13:38] <knapper_tech> thx
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> gldsnpr: what is the output of:  sudo lshw -C network; lsb_release -a; sudo rfkill list
[13:38] <kingofswords> ok edited file and repeated steps ActionParsnip told me but still not showing
[13:39] <fmauro> kingofswords: have you by chance installed grub beside grub2?
[13:39] <kingofswords> fmauro,  erm i dont know how would i tell?
[13:40] <fmauro> kingofswords: you didn't if you didn't explicitly download it
[13:40] <contrast> fmauro: you probably already answered this, but i just came in - which release of ubuntu are you using?
[13:40] <kingofswords> fmauro, ah i do have 2 grub folders.../boot/grub/menu.lst and then /boot/boot/....
[13:40] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:40] <contrast> hey BluesKaj
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> gldsnpr: use a pastebini to host
[13:41] <BluesKaj> hi contrast
[13:41] <contrast> BluesKaj: think you could help me out with some broken packages? http://pastebin.com/gtfHCFuY
[13:41] <gldsnpr_> i got dc again
[13:41] <kingofswords> is grub.cfg replacemnt for menu.lst in grub 2?
[13:41] <contrast> kingofswords: yep
[13:42] <MacIsInteresting> Does anyone know of an exact replica of the Mac OSX dock theme for Docky?
[13:42] <arvut> hi, what can I do if I get this error when I try to launch neverwinter nights; http://pastebin.com/tg7S8D0k (I installed just fine under ubuntu 11.04 and I did fixinstall and everything passed)
[13:42] <contrast> kingofswords: actually, no, sorry. /etc/default/grub is the replacement for menu.lst
[13:42] <kingofswords> so can i just delete menu/lst?
[13:43] <BluesKaj> ok contrast , do you have synaptic installed?
[13:43]  * arvut gonna ask the same thing in #linux
[13:43] <kingofswords> right so any ideas now as to get windows back?
[13:44] <contrast> kingofswords: well, if menu.lst and /etc/default/grub is on your system, it's likely you have grub and grub2 installed, so grub needs to be uninstalled
[13:44] <hiwk> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[13:44] <kingofswords> contrast, how do i do this?
[13:44] <contrast> BluesKaj: yep, already poked around in there without any success though... i'm open to suggestions though.
[13:44] <gldsnpr_> sorry, I got disconnected, i need help to find out if my lan port is broken
[13:44] <kingofswords> sudo uninstall-grub?
[13:45] <contrast> kingofswords: pastebin the output from "dpkg --get-selections | grep grub"
[13:45] <gldsnpr_> i tried most of the forum suggestion, but still
[13:45] <fmauro> contrast: couldn't it be possible he updated from a older release, so menu.lst is still there?
[13:45] <contrast> fmauro: that's what i was thinking, hence me asking what release he's using ;)
[13:46] <BluesKaj> contrast, did you check synaptic, edit, fix broken packages ?
[13:46] <Jonii> Does anyone know if Ubuntu has a media player that plays mkv files properly?
[13:46] <bazhang> mplayer Jonii
[13:46] <Jonii> I'm thinking I should try running Media Player Classic using WinE, but I'd like a native program if possible
[13:46] <kingofswords> contrast, http://pastebin.com/bAv2FFhZ
[13:46] <Jonii> mplayer doesn't work
[13:46] <helo> i'm trying to cross-compile a package for arm, and pdebuild-cross is erroring out with "pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy: Depends: dpkg-dev (>= 1.16.0~ubuntu4) but 1.15.8.4ubuntu3 is installed."
[13:46] <hiwk> Jonii: why doesn't mplayer work?
[13:46] <contrast> BluesKaj: just tried it, it applied no changes... it's not showing anything under the Broken filter anyway though.
[13:46] <bazhang> Jonii, then install the codecs, it works great
[13:47] <kingofswords> fmauro, contrast it was fresh install of 10.04 lts
[13:47] <Jonii> I really don't know. All I know is that it doesn't play most mkv files I have properly
[13:47] <Jonii> bazhang, I have codecs installed
[13:47] <kingofswords> contrast, http://pastebin.com/bAv2FFhZ
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> Jonii: do you have w32codecs installed (I assume 32bit OS)
[13:47] <Jonii> 64bit os
[13:47] <jrib> Jonii: mkv is just a container
[13:47] <bazhang> Jonii, which ones
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> Jonii: then w64codecs
[13:47] <OneSquared> J'ai un message dans la console d'eclipse qui me dit : Error type 3.
[13:47] <OneSquared> Quelqu'un l'a deja eu ?
[13:48] <jrib> !fr | OneSquared
[13:48] <makara> i just installed Oneric Alpha 3 and its unusable. The graphics for Unity 3D and 2D doesn't refresh properly
[13:48] <Jonii> ActionParsnip: I have those installed, yes
[13:48] <OneSquared> Error : Acitivity class [...] does not exist
[13:48] <Pici> makara : Oneiric/11.10 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[13:48] <OneSquared> sorry
[13:48] <bazhang> makara, #ubuntu+1 for that
[13:48] <OneSquared> Sorry bad channel
[13:48] <contrast> kingofswords: and pastebin from this: apt-cache policy grub-pc
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> makara: it's alpha software, what did you expect!
[13:49] <BluesKaj> contrast, ok, in the terminal , sudo dpkg --configure -a, then, sudo dpkg --clear-avail , then try updating again
[13:49] <makara> a release, of some sort
[13:49] <Jonii> jrib, well, yes, that makes it a bit more weird
[13:49] <jrib> Jonii: how so?
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> makara: yes, pre-release, not ready, half made
[13:50] <makara> ActionParsnip: for what purpose?
[13:50] <kingofswords> ok
[13:50] <Feldegast> Oneiric release date 2011 october
[13:50] <contrast> Jonii: you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[13:50] <Pici> makara, ActionParsnip: #ubuntu+1 please.
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> makara: to get bugs reported to get the bugs out so it IS ready for release
[13:50] <Jonii> contrast, yes
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> Pici: gotcha
[13:51] <Jonii> I'm thinking I should install Media Player Classic, but I'm wondering how to deal with codecs there
[13:51] <kingofswords> contrast, http://pastebin.com/8YhxYx7t
[13:51] <killown> After reboot, my unity doesn't work, it's starting the old gnome, how to fix that?
[13:51] <Jonii> Like, running MPC on WinE, and installing windows codecs using wine?
[13:51] <gnomeubuntu> hello there
[13:51] <Jonii> Does that work, and if it doesn't, how to fix it so it does work?
[13:52] <jrib> Jonii: mplayer works fine.  Can you give an example of a file you cannot view?  What codec does it use?
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> killown: if you press ALT+F2 and run:  compiz --replace    does it work?
[13:52] <killown> Compiz (opengl) - Fatal: No valid GL extensions string found.
[13:52] <killown> Compiz (bailer) - Info: Ensuring a shell for your session
[13:52] <gnomeubuntu> i need help regarding to gnome3, here is my problem, am using ubuntu 11.04 upgraded from 10.10 so i was using unity then i install gnome3 but after i do that it wont login .It keep saying --- failed to load session "gnome"---- so i can only login through  recovery console and i type gnome-session replace after that everything is loaded but when i close the console window it terminate everything
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> killown: then you don't have 3D support enabled
[13:53] <contrast> Jonii: that should be completely unnecessary... pretty sure we can get a native player working... what video card?
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> gnomeubuntu: gnome3 isn't supported here
[13:53] <bazhang> gnomeubuntu, gnome3 is not supported
[13:53] <killown> Ok, let me check
[13:53] <killown> Thank you
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> gnomeubuntu: nor do we advise you use it, nor is it stable
[13:53] <killown> I will fix it
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> gnomeubuntu: in Natty by any stretch
[13:54] <Jonii> jrib, the problem is more like, files usually open somewhat well, but have weird playback problems that make watching them a total pain. This includes looping, crashing the whatever viewing program I'm using halfway through, randomly missing audio or video for few seconds every now and then etc
[13:54] <gnomeubuntu> ok thanks , but where is the right irc room for that
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> gnomeubuntu: #gnome possibly
[13:54] <jrib> Jonii: Can you give an example of a file you cannot view?  What codec does it use?
[13:54] <contrast> kingofswords: ok, and hopefully lastly: apt-cache policy grub-common
[13:55] <kingofswords> heh ok
[13:55] <Jonii> Just a sec
[13:55] <BluesKaj> contrast, any results?
[13:55] <kingofswords> contrast, http://pastebin.com/T7n1Zkxu
[13:56] <contrast> BluesKaj: no joy, but thanks anyway. :)
[13:57] <Jonii> VLC coded information says "codec: avc1" for this one file that doesn't work
[13:57] <konsumer> o/
[13:57] <contrast> kingofswords: ok, let's try this: sudo apt-get remove --purge grub grub-pc+
[13:57] <Jonii> I have no idea what avc1 is though, so I'm not sure if that makes any sense
[13:58] <kingofswords> contrast, ok just waiting for it to dl
[13:58] <BluesKaj> ok , contrast, if you already tried audo apt-get -f install with no results , then try this , sudo dpkg --remove --force-depends nameofpackage(s)
[13:58] <BluesKaj> err sudo
[13:59] <kingofswords> contrast, omg it lists windows....brb rebbot
[13:59] <contrast> kingofswords: it may take you through some prompts. confirm that you want to remove grub, then point the installer for grub2 to /dev/sda (or whatever drive your installation is on)
[13:59] <contrast> kingofswords: good luck :)
[13:59] <kingofswords> contrast, Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
[13:59] <kingofswords> Found Microsoft Windows XP Professional on /dev/sda1
[13:59] <kingofswords> done
[13:59] <usr13> Jonii: avc1 is a codec used by mpeg4
[14:00] <usr13> http://wiki.videolan.org/VLC_Features_Formats
[14:00] <oliviermo> hy  or bonjour
[14:00] <contrast> BluesKaj: sorry for questioning you when you're trying to help, but "force" makes me nervous-- that definitely won't break anything worse than things are already broken, right? :D
[14:01] <usr13> Jonii: What version of ubuntu do you have?
[14:02] <CyL> Hi, I'm running ubuntu as a vbox guest on a windows 7 host, and ubuntu doesn't seem to be going well after I installed the guest additions (it can't run unity and it can't get the full resolution of my video card, just 1024x768). Any advice on this please?
[14:02] <Jonii> I think it was 10.4 LTS
[14:02] <Jonii> It was x.4 LTS, that much I know. Lucid Lynx or something
[14:02] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[14:02] <BluesKaj> contrast, not that i know of , that last command saved my system from messy dependencies to flash a while back ..was able to reinstall it properly afterwards , but there are no gurantess
[14:02] <BluesKaj> guarantees
[14:03] <usr13> Jonii: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/+bug/454714
[14:03] <kingofswords> contrast, you're a god thank you so much it works now=/)
[14:03] <usr13> Jonii: Well there you go...
[14:04] <contrast> Jonii: you might have a look at umplayer - http://sourceforge.net/projects/umplayer/files/UMPlayer-0.95/xUbuntu_10.04/ . it's what i'm using and it plays pretty much everything... or vlc, which is in the repositories.
[14:04] <Jonii> usr13, so the next question is, does Ubuntu have a program that supports this?
[14:04] <contrast> kingofswords: glad to help. :-)
[14:04] <usr13> Jonii: Yea, just try another player.   xine or totem or mplayer or ...
[14:05] <kingofswords> contrast, so would that of worked without me reinstalling windows?
[14:05] <contrast> kingofswords: yeah... oh man, you reinstalled windows trying to resolve this? :-\
[14:06] <Jonii> Humm
[14:06] <kingofswords> lol yeh cant load gta4 now as result
[14:06] <usr13> Jonii: This is pretty old, but: http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/230999-Where-to-get-the-AVC1-codec-to-play-mp4-videos
[14:07] <contrast> kingofswords: geez... well i guess now you know to ask around in here before doing something that drastic in the future.
[14:07] <kingofswords> contrast,  i have been for past 2 months and just going round in circles...
[14:07] <usr13> Jonii: as contrast points out, mplayer may do it, I don't know, but mplayer is the swiss-army-knife for video
[14:08] <contrast> kingofswords: sorry i wasn't in here then. :-P
[14:08] <kingofswords> contrast, was it just the last line that fixed it....im gonna save that to a gedit file for future
[14:08] <burg> hello. i`ve installed nautilus-open-terminal, yet i can`t see any menu for opening folder in terminal. do i need to enable anything else? i use ubuntu 11.04 with gnome2
[14:08] <contrast> mplayer should definitely do it, but the frontends for it are hit-or-miss... umplayer has been really solid in my experience though.
[14:08] <Jonii> Ok, I've been using VLC as a testbed, but if avc1 doesn't work properly on VLC, that's obviously stupid
[14:09] <contrast> kingofswords: well that line got rid of grub and installed grub2
[14:09] <Jonii> Mplayer had one specific annoying bug that relates to not understanding videos composed of multiple files, but now that I think about it, I don't remember having seen lag-issue on mplayer
[14:09] <BluesKaj> umplayer , contrast , another gui version of mplayer ?
[14:09] <kingofswords> contrast, so i dont need to delete anything now...such as menu.lst/
[14:10] <usr13> burg: I don't think you open a directory.  YOu may view it's contents but  to "open it"..?
[14:10] <burg> usr13, i want to open it in terminal (instead of opening terminal and writing cd /path/to/that/folder)
[14:10] <contrast> BluesKaj: yep, it's an smplayer clone with added youtube and shoutcast support... plus i haven't had *any* of the codec/mplayer-version-compatibility issues with it that i constantly ran into with smplayer.
[14:11] <contrast> BluesKaj: have you ran into any new pulseaudio issues since upgrading to kde sc 4.7?
[14:11] <usr13> burg: ls /path/to/that/folder
[14:11] <lvchenyu> hello
[14:12] <burg> usr13, you don`t understand. i don`t want to view contents. i want a terminal opened with location set to that folder
[14:12] <contrast> !hi | lvchenyu
[14:12] <contrast> !hello | lvchenyu
[14:12]  * Lint thinks that Chuck Norris can read from and unlink directories
[14:13] <BluesKaj> contrast,right, the mplayer gui versions never appealed to me much , been staying with VLC ..fits my needs well. PA is no longer in my system , causes me nothing but restricted options..alsa does the job
[14:13] <usr13> burg: Maybe I don't understand.  I've not use nautilus-open-terminal  But sounds like you need to create a luancher that opens nautilus-open-terminal cd'ed to /that/folder
[14:14] <burg> yes, that`s what i want. and 'ls /path/to/folder' has nothing to do with that
[14:14] <contrast> BluesKaj: the only thing tying me to pulse is the projectm gui (projectm-pulseaudio)
[14:14] <Pici> Lint: I think that offtopic comments belong in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:14] <lvchenyu> 如何xp于lubuntu共存fat32
[14:14] <bazhang> !cn | lvchenyu
[14:15] <shbk> hello, I'm trying to compile simple module, but I can't because I need <linux/module.h>,  I've found this file in usr/src/   , it is. but I still receive error.   I've found two opinions in web: 1) says, I should only have linux-headers  2) I should compile my kernel.   as I understood first idea is wrong, because  I need full source code, to compile my module.  so I need compile kernel.  I didn't compile kernel yet, but I see that it's hard task.  have I right und
[14:16] <contrast> BluesKaj: tried "sudo dpkg --remove --force-depends libgl1-mesa-glx libglu1-mesa libgl1-mesa-dev libglu1-mesa-dev" - http://pastebin.com/baPrhDxw
[14:16] <amin`> gentlemen I need a ranking between dwm wmii awesome?
[14:16] <oliviermo> i have a question for ubuntu developer . there is someone ???
[14:17] <bazhang> amin`, dont poll here please
[14:17] <bazhang> shbk, this is in vbox, correct? ubuntu or debain?
[14:17] <amin`> irt is not pool
[14:17] <amin`> i
[14:17] <shbk> ubuntu
[14:17] <bazhang> shbk, why do you need to compile the kernel for a vbox guest
[14:17] <amin`> want to install tilling windows manager and I want to know what is the best?
[14:17] <shbk> I 've  ubuntu on main machine, and under vbox both
[14:18] <Myrtti> !best | amin`
[14:18] <bazhang> amin`, try them, no best. dont poll here please
[14:18] <ikonia-remote> amin`: that's your decision to make,
[14:18] <arjunshayk> hello
[14:18] <shbk> because I want to compile such program : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5611254/linux-kernel-h-no-such-file-or-directory/5611293#5611293
[14:19] <shbk> and I think for vbox it 'll be more safe
[14:19] <bazhang> shbk, safe how
[14:19] <shbk> I don't want to lose my os
[14:19] <BluesKaj> contrast, projectm-pulseaudio , looks interesting ..btw I just thought of this ... sudo apt-get install --reinstall mesa-utils
[14:19] <shbk> unimportant,  should  I compile kernel to compile this module?
[14:20] <ikonia-remote> no
[14:20] <contrast> BluesKaj: same errors :\
[14:20] <BluesKaj> contrast, bummer :(
[14:21] <usr13> burg: Looks like you just right-click on a directory and choose Make Link (is what you are looking for).
[14:23] <BluesKaj> contrast, what about purging mesa utils ..it uses that libgl1 dependency ..maybe a dist-upgrade will repackage your repos with an updated version if you get rid of everything including the conf files
[14:23] <engammalsko1> Hi, I have a LAMP server but I also wanna connect to the files through a ftp. Can anyone help me? Is proftp good?
[14:24] <contrast> BluesKaj: actually, i think i got it, one sec...
[14:24] <usr13> engammalsko1: Sure. proftpd is good.
[14:24] <Jagajugue> Does the command /server work  your in pidgin?
[14:24] <engammalsko1> usr13: Ok, if I install it do I need to change some settings so the folder the ftp connects to is my www folder?
[14:25] <usr13> engammalsko1: I think vsftpd and proftpd are the most popular.
[14:25] <engammalsko1> Jagajugue: I'm using Pidgin atm... Do you mean commands like "/join" ?
[14:25] <usr13> engammalsko1: Yes, but do you have multiple sites?  And multiple ftp users?
[14:25] <engammalsko1> usr13: Which one is easiest to install?
[14:26] <Jonii> How do I update my mplayer?
[14:26] <engammalsko1> usr13: I have one site and I only want to have one ftp user : )
[14:26] <Jonii> I installed umplayer, and it said mplayer was obsolete :/
[14:26] <Jagajugue> engammalsko1: no, I'm trying to change to another server, so in google they say use the command "/server servername"
[14:27] <contrast> BluesKaj: ok, it was my fault... i'm using the latest nvidia driver (280) from http://ppa.launchpad.net/philip5/extra/ubuntu/ . purged nvidia-current, everything configured, then reinstalled nvidia-current and everything appears to be kosher now.
[14:27] <contrast> BluesKaj: sorry for dragging you through that; i appreciate your efforts though. :-D
[14:27] <Jagajugue> engammalsko1: i'm newby in IRC
[14:27] <engammalsko1> Jagajugue: Aha, I think you need to create a new account for every server.
[14:27] <engammalsko1> Jagajugue: Or do you mean change room? Like "/join #pidgin" ?
[14:27] <contrast> Jonii: one sec...
[14:27] <usr13> engammalsko1: Here is what I do.  Just create a user for each site.  Have a www folder for each user's /home  Use symlinks so apache serves from each user's www folder.
[14:28] <engammalsko1> Jagajugue: I'm new to irc too.
[14:28] <Jagajugue> engammalsko1: no no, i afraid i'll have to create another account
[14:28] <Jonii> I think I figured this out. I used launchpad and package manager
[14:29] <usr13> engammalsko1: Even if you only have one now, this is the easiest way, because ftp user is automatically directed to  /home/user/
[14:29] <Jagajugue> engammalsko1: i'll send you the link
[14:29] <engammalsko1> usr13: Hmm. I go back to you later when I'm installing proftp.
[14:29] <BluesKaj> contrast, np, these dependency problems are always a challenge ..seems I had one with the 280 as well , but I did the sudo dpkg --remove --force-depends after reading the logs and I managed to wiggle my way out tof that dep hell.
[14:29] <engammalsko1> Jagajugue: Yes, one account for each server in pidgin.
[14:29] <jpmh> On  a brand new install of 10,4 I have two accounts - both administrator the network attachment ap shows in the panel of only one - why - and how do I get it into the other
[14:30] <usr13> engammalsko1: By default, httpd follows symlinks.
[14:30] <Jagajugue> engammalsko1: ok then
[14:30] <Jagajugue> engammalsko1: thanks! o/
[14:30] <engammalsko1> Jagajugue: I hope I don't give you misleading information... but that's the way I'm doing it : )
[14:31] <engammalsko1> Jagajugue: instructions*
[14:31] <contrast> Jonii: run this in the terminal: "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:motumedia/mplayer-daily; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[14:31] <engammalsko1> usr13: Should I install gproftp too?
[14:31] <Jagajugue> engammalsko1: haha, no prob, if i discover something about this i pass to you
[14:32] <engammalsko1> Jagajugue: :)
[14:33] <contrast> BluesKaj: i'm sure it's due to the ~20 extra repositories i'm using (i'm usually good about keeping them disabled except when i actually need something from them)
[14:33] <gugugaga> why ubuntu gui auto change to custom when ubuntu classic is selectted ?
[14:33] <contrast> BluesKaj: i mean the fact that the --force-depends switch didn't work for me
[14:34] <usr13> !gpproftp
[14:35] <contrast> Jonii: any progress?
[14:35] <usr13>  Sorry, I don't know anything about gpproftp
[14:35] <Guest65951> Привет всем. Мне надо установить пароль на папку, Как это сделать ?
[14:35] <Reaper> lmfao yeah right
[14:36] <BluesKaj> contrast, ahh , seems you like a bit of bleeding edge in the multimedia area ...makes for interesting situations :)
[14:36] <s_enya> test
[14:37] <contrast> BluesKaj: indeed... where's the fun in everything working properly if you can't have the latest features and bugs, right? >=)
[14:37] <BluesKaj> contrast, :)
[14:39] <contrast> BluesKaj: btw, if you liked the looks of projectm-pulseaudio but don't find it worth installing pulse, you might have a look at qmmp and its projectm plugin. it's not as extensive as the actual projectm gui, but it still beats the hell out of any other visualizer around.
[14:40] <engammalsko1> usr13: I followed this and instead of creating the FTP-SHARED folder i used my www folder. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79588
[14:40] <domi007> hey everyone, I have a expresscard to PCMCIA adapter, but it doesn't seem to work even when I load the pciehp driver
[14:41] <engammalsko1> usr13: Will that work? Do I need to forward port 20 and 21 too?
[14:41] <domi007> I guess it should create a PCMCIA 'slot' which ubuntu can see and all PCMCIA drivers can use, but it doesn't seem to do that
[14:41] <BluesKaj> I'm still trying configure simultaneous analog and digital outputs on my coax and audio line out . My Realtek ALC1200 soundcard is supposedly capable but so far no luck
[14:41] <BluesKaj> contrast,^
[14:41] <usr13> engammalsko1: Did you look at the date?  (2005)?  That is pretty old...
[14:42] <engammalsko1> usr13: oops no...
[14:42] <engammalsko1> usr13: Can you give me a better one?
[14:43] <usr13> engammalsko1: I've given my recommendation(s). If you don't understand, I'll go into more detail.
[14:43] <contrast> BluesKaj: i'm pretty sure i had that working with pulse at one point... i didn't think alsa w/o pulse was capable of outputting to >1 devices at a time like that?
[14:43] <engammalsko1> usr13: Ok. Can I we chat in a private chat?
[14:44] <usr13> engammalsko1: If you look at /etc/apache2/sites-available/default  you'll see: "Options FollowSymLinks"
[14:44] <BluesKaj> contrast, yeah, I was afraid of that :(
[14:47] <contrast> BluesKaj: you have any experience with audio over HDMI?
[14:47] <contrast> (nvidia)
[14:48] <h00k> contrast: go to Sound Settings -> Hardware tab -> Profile and change the audio to be over HDMI
[14:48] <contrast> h00k: thanks
[14:48] <contrast> kingofswords: welcome back
[14:48] <kingofswords> hi thx
[14:50] <contrast> kingofswords: want some help configuring your boot menu (e.g., changing the default os, removing entries for memtest/recovery, changing the delay)?
[14:50] <BluesKaj> contrast, my nvidia card insists it has audio capability over hdmi , but i can't use because my 8400gs only has dvi outs , so i use an adapter cable with dvi to hdmi , so if it did have an hdmi out I'm sure it would work, phonon devices shows them and the tests all work
[14:50] <kaka> l
[14:50] <route_3> I have my Django dev server running on an Amazon AMI (CentOs)...can I use SSH tunneling to hit the running development server on port 8000?
[14:50] <kingofswords> contrast, yeh sure that would be great thx
[14:51] <contrast> kingofswords: which one(s)? ;)
[14:51] <bazhang> route_3, how would ubuntu fit in with that?
[14:51] <route_3> I'm running Ubuntu, locally
[14:51] <BluesKaj> contrast, I assume you still run kde , or have that option
[14:51] <kingofswords> contrast, id like to delete the memtest  and other useless options
[14:52] <kingofswords> i mean useless to me...i only use windows and ubuntu options none of other stuff
[14:52] <nstridesout> anyone used ettercap before?
[14:52] <jasonmsp> hey all.  I have the launcher set to autohide in compiz config manager but it seems to want to stay visible.  Is there a way to determine who the culprit is that is making it fail?
[14:52] <contrast> BluesKaj: weird... i'm 99% sure dvi is strictly video-only, so if that's the only connection it has, i don't get why it's claiming audio capabilities... yup, still a kde man. i just wandered in here because of the non-kde-related dep-hell i got myself into.
[14:54] <contrast> kingofswords: ok, in a terminal: grep Windows /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[14:54] <nstridesout> my software center is not working. any help?
[14:54] <BluesKaj> yes contrast dvi is video only but the other end of the cable is hdmi , so the soundcard sees it as hdmi
[14:54] <kingofswords> contrast, do i just put # in front of ones i dont want listed?
[14:55] <contrast> kingofswords: nope, you should never edit grub.cfg directly; it gets generated by the options you set in /etc/default/grub
[14:55] <alecat> Hi
[14:55] <kingofswords> contrast, ok..so did that last entry put windows as default os?
[14:55] <contrast> kingofswords: did you want to keep ubuntu as the default os?
[14:56] <kingofswords> i dont mind either way
[14:56] <azous> bom dia
[14:57] <azous> Good morning. Is there a way i can get Outlook Messenger Linux version to chat with Windows version?
[14:57] <alecat> I have installed ubuntu 10.10 on a macbook. It's a standalone install, no more mac osx ! It works quite well except a veeeeeery long boot time. What can i do ?
[14:58] <contrast> kingofswords: ahh, ok... you can disregard that last bit then... so to get rid of the recovery option: sudo sed -i -e s/'#GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY'/'GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY'/ /etc/default/grub
[14:59] <BluesKaj> contrast , this my audio devices list in phonon http://imagebin.org/169606
[14:59] <contrast> kingofswords: then to get rid of memtest: sudo apt-get remove --purge memtest86+
[15:00] <kingofswords> contrast, is it bad idea to get rid of mem test?
[15:00] <contrast> BluesKaj: ^_^ that's a lot of devices
[15:01] <contrast> kingofswords: getting rid of it won't break anything... and on the occasion you would actually need to test your memory, you can just reinstall it or run it from the live cd
[15:02] <kingofswords> ah ok cool....thx
[15:02] <BluesKaj> kingofswords, memtest is rather necessary and it doesn't use resources until called by you
[15:03] <nonent> I'm having a weird network problem since I upgraded from hardy LTS to lucid LTS.   i've got a network card with two ports, one local ip, one external ip, and for some reason, network replies switch ports after x seconds, and then switch back later. (ie, internal port starts getting stuff from external ip and vice versa)
[15:03] <contrast> BluesKaj: necessary how? (he's trying to clean up his boot menu) ... uninstalling it has been once of the first things i do on a clean install for years and i've seen no ill effects from it.
[15:03] <kingofswords> BluesKaj, isnt memtest on livcd?
[15:03] <contrast> one*
[15:03] <BluesKaj> contrast, yeah, there's alot of duplication there but I haven't bothered changing the list
[15:04] <nonent> any ideas where to look?  if i run a continuous arping on the external dev advertising the external ip, everything works, but as soon as it stops, the port starts cycling back and forth again
[15:05] <BluesKaj> contrast, well, to each his own
[15:05] <contrast> BluesKaj: i meant to ask after you pasted that pic: any particular reason you're not using the pastebin widget? it's one of the best plasmoids imo.
[15:06] <kingofswords> is it possible to get device manager from windows partition to run in wine in ubuntu?
[15:06] <kingofswords> i dont wanna reboot
[15:06] <contrast> kingofswords: i very highly doubt it... whatever you're wanting to do with device manager can most likely be done natively though...?
[15:07] <mbeierl> I'm not a linux newbie, but something has been confusing me for the past couple of months running on Natty: top, /proc/meminfo, gnome system monitor, etc, everything I can find to report memory usage are all saying that the footprint of the programs on system should total ~2g.  Yet the same programs are all saying that my total memory usage /without caches/ is 3.9g.  Cached comes to 100m.  What tool can tell me what is using the rema
[15:07] <kingofswords> wanted to see if i had graphics driver isntaled in windows
[15:07] <krux> you must buy lots of stuff at kingofswords LOL..
[15:07] <BluesKaj> I have imagebin as a bookmark , never heard the widget befoe , contrast
[15:07] <contrast> kingofswords: fyi: this is the place to look for program compatibility in wine: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[15:07] <kingofswords> ahh yeh thx
[15:08] <sanesto123> Hello, is there a way to create an image of my ubuntu to be able to install it on another machine without reinstalling the softwares and redoing the configurations, thank you
[15:08] <contrast> BluesKaj: pretty sure it's in the default install of kde. might be in one of the extra packages though.
[15:08] <sysopwork> how can I change what virtual terminal ubuntu uses at boot?
[15:08] <BluesKaj> contrast, for text based I use pastebinit , for images , imagebin
[15:08] <bazhang> !clone | sanesto123
[15:08] <eugo> Hi I am trying to make a vncserver init.d script
[15:08] <eugo> why is it when i run> update-rc.d vncserver defaults 99 < that it actually makes the symlink as priority 01 instead of 99 ?
[15:09] <kingofswords> is it actually possible to open a program located on a different partition (asuming extensions work)?
[15:09] <contrast> BluesKaj: with the widget, you just copy whatever you're pastebinning as normal (text or image), click the widget, and it pastebins it and copies the url to your clipboard
[15:09] <sanesto123> ubottu: perfect, do you think ill have the config files or only the packages
[15:09] <contrast> BluesKaj: it *really* speeds up the workflow. i recommend checking it out. ;)
[15:10] <sanesto123> bazhang: thx
[15:10] <contrast> kingofswords: via wine, you mean?
[15:10] <kingofswords> yeh
[15:10] <contrast> kingofswords: and what extensions are you talking about?
[15:10] <kingofswords> or if you had a different ver of linux too
[15:10] <sanesto123> exit
[15:11] <Lint> is there any way to reduce Ubuntu's ram consumption?
[15:11] <rumpe1> sanesto123, if the hardwares are similar ... sure.
[15:11] <WoodyOSU> Hi I am running Ubuntu 11.04 on Thinkpad X61 and the computer won't resume when it's suspended or put to hibernate mode.  I have tried everything I could find on google nothing works.  Can someone please help me?
[15:11] <Lint> it's about 400 MB ram + 70 MB swap
[15:11] <BluesKaj> contrast, thanks for the tip
[15:11] <peekaie> Is it possible to set a Wifi Router to assign IPs via DHCP, and a gateway different than the router itself?
[15:11] <usr13> peekaie: Sure
[15:11] <contrast> kingofswords: WoodyOSU: are you using the latest VirtualBox?
[15:12] <contrast> BluesKaj: np :)
[15:12] <kingofswords> contrast, im just talking in theory..like if i had a game installed on windows partition and it was compatiable with wine..would it be possible to play it through wine/ubuntu
[15:12] <WoodyOSU> kingofswords: yes I am
[15:12] <rumpe1> sanesto123, won't work, if you switch from 32bit to 64bit or vice versa e.g. and maybe you need to reconfigure graphic card drivers
[15:12] <aeon-ltd> Lint: yes, don't use compiz, don't use unity, don't use gnome, do those you lose about 200mb on any other DE than KDE
[15:12] <ikonia-remote> peekaie: totally
[15:12] <usr13> peekaie: As long as the gateway is there and in the subnet
[15:12] <aeon-ltd> Lint: use just a WM you can easily get <60mb ram usage at boot
[15:12] <rumpe1> sanesto123, oh... no. switching from 32bit to 64bit would actually work i guess
[15:12] <azous> Good morning. Is there a way i can get Outlook Messenger Linux version to chat with Windows version?
[15:13] <usr13> Lint: YOu reduce ubuntu's RAM consumption by reducing what runs.
[15:13] <peekaie> Here's the thing. The gateway is 18.192.192.1, located on the roof, and I have a cable coming from it. I'm trying to assign 18.192.192.20 till 18.192.192.50 as DHCP. The IP of the router is 18.192.192.10 . But nowhere under LAN settings is somewhere to set the gateway and DNS server
[15:13] <Lint> but I don't need 'just' a wm, I need a usable desktop; and ^ is with bare xfce;
[15:14] <WoodyOSU> contrast: yes I am using virtualbox 4.1.0 on it
[15:14] <peekaie> All computers get IPs from DHCP, but the gateway is set to 18.192.192.10 (router)
[15:14] <Lint> LXDE has windows 3.1 fuctionality, so I don't want to use it yet
[15:14] <user_564> Can someone help me please...I'm having trouble with Google Chrome & Chromium. Even if I reinstall it stalls, but computer is fine. My problem is I did an update then removed something I shouldn't have. Google Chrome or Chromium starts fine....it's just when I get a search result from Google or Bing and the results include multiple sites under one site then it crashes..(Please Help)
[15:14] <ikonia-remote> Lint: you have to work within the limitations of your machine, if the desktop you want takes up 2GB or ram, and you have 512, you have to accept that's not going to work
[15:14] <ikonia-remote> peekaie: change the dhcp config on your router
[15:14] <contrast> WoodyOSU: there's the culprit, fix coming up...
[15:14] <aeon-ltd> Lint: heh no it doesn't, your application set defines the usability
[15:15] <peekaie> There's nowhere to set the gateway, except under WAN, which doesn't seem the right place to be
[15:15] <WoodyOSU> contrast: ahhh i see, awesome thanks
[15:15] <aeon-ltd> Lint: if you have everything you need all you need is a menu to access them and customization options then that is effectively a usable desktop
[15:15] <contrast> kingofswords: sure... if i was to try it, i'd probably just make a link to the game's install directory in my wine folder, so something like: ln -s "/media/WINDOWS/Program Files/Portal" "$HOME/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Portal"
[15:15] <usr13> peekaie: Do you have the cable going to the gateway on the roof plugged into a WAN or LAN port?
[15:15] <peekaie> usr13 LAN Port
[15:16] <usr13> peekaie: Ok good.  That should work for you.
[15:16] <WoodyOSU> contrast: should I look for the fix in ubuntu or in virtualbox?
[15:17] <user_564> How can I reload the last Ubuntu update? I deleted something from the update which is needed.
[15:17] <contrast> WoodyOSU: got a terminal open?
[15:17] <WoodyOSU> contrast: yes
[15:18] <contrast> WoodyOSU: "sudo su", enter your password, then run this: echo 'SUSPEND_MODULES="$SUSPEND_MODULES vboxdrv vboxnetflt vboxnetadp vboxpci"' >> /etc/pm/config.d/unload_modules
[15:18] <mbeierl> ok, I've closed nearly every program.  System monitor and top all report 2.3gb free, yet if I look at the memory usage per program and tally it up, it only comes to 850m.  Why can't I find the missing 1.3gb of memory?  What program can possibly be taking it up?
[15:18] <mbeierl> or, perhaps the question should be: what program/file can show me what is really using the memory on this system?
[15:18] <user_564> How can I reload the last Ubuntu update? I deleted something from the update which is needed.
[15:18] <azous> Hi. Im trying to usa Outlook Messenger on Windows 7 / xp and Ubuntu, but I cant make Ubuntu and Windows see each other. Lan is working, sharing files with samba. I can ping everyone and chat with it from windows to windows and ubuntu to ubuntu. I just cant chat from ubuntu to windows. Please Help me. Thanks
[15:19] <contrast> mbeierl: it's most likely cached
[15:19] <mbeierl> contrast: no, i've already taken that into account.  this is definitely not cache
[15:20] <Citizenwarrior> Ok I have used all my GoogleFu, the best link I can provide to show a simple example is this h**p://tinyurl.com/3qgyurs from a backtrack-linux.org post.  What I want to know is this, If I create an encrypted install of Ubuntu on a laptop with /boot on a USB drive so that is acts as a "ignition key" for my computer can I then store other items on that same USB drive?
[15:20] <user_564> Can anyone help me...How can I reinstall last updates?
[15:20] <WoodyOSU> contrast: ok ran it
[15:20] <venik212> anyone using MINT?  I have questions
[15:20] <contrast> WoodyOSU: go ahead and try suspending/resuming
[15:20] <contrast> user_564: what did you delete?
[15:20] <WoodyOSU> contrast: ok
[15:20] <bazhang> !mintsupport | venik212
[15:21] <kernelpanicker> No one's very active in ubuntu server... so, before I blindly follow the ubuntu.com instructions for setting up postfix/dovecot/mailman on a VPS is RimuHosting... does anyone have any advice before I start?
[15:21] <mbeierl> for those interested: http://paste.ubuntu.com/674570/  <== report of memory usage on the system
[15:21] <contrast> mbeierl: http://chrisjohnston.org/2009/why-on-linux-am-i-seeing-so-much-ram-usage
[15:22] <lolcat> kernelpanicker: Get a dedicated server instead
[15:22] <user_564> I'm not sure...but it;s something that is needed for Google Chrome Or Chromium to work properly
[15:23] <mbeierl> contrast: as stated, i've already gone down that route.  this is not a "i don't understand how to read the stats", unfortunately.  This is real physical memory being reported as used, and not available to either cache nor other programs
[15:23] <contrast> user_564: which are you using, chrome or chromium? and can you pastebin the error you're getting from it?
[15:23] <kernelpanicker> lolcat: do VPS create problems?  I'm kinda locked into a situation here...
[15:23] <lolcat> kernelpanicker: no, but they are often over-sold. What do you pay for it?
[15:24] <contrast> mbeierl: sorry i missed that; trying to help ~3 people at once on here. :)
[15:24] <kernelpanicker> $50 or something... this is someone else's nickel, so I'm covered on costs...but I am worried about the technical stuff
[15:25] <bytesaber_work> so what's this new gnome replacement in 11.04 called?   HideAll?
[15:25] <WoodyOSU> contrast: that did it awesome thanks so much
[15:26] <user_564> It's very funny...for example: When I do a search in Google for Webup8d. The results are multiple under one site...then Google Chrome and Chromium crash...
[15:26] <kernelpanicker> wow... can't even raise the rimuhosting.com landing page... maybe they're the victim of their own technology... can anyone else get to rimuhosting.com from their browser... I'm getting pings but no landing page.
[15:26] <bazhang> kernelpanicker, how does this relate to ubuntu support
[15:26] <WoodyOSU> contrast: one last ? when the fix comes out will I have to undo this command?
[15:26] <contrast> WoodyOSU: it took me forever to find that solution when i was having that problem; glad i could pass it along. :)
[15:27] <kernelpanicker> bazhang: read back to my initial post, then read lolcat's response.
[15:27] <WoodyOSU> contrast: trust me I have spend the last 2 days on this so you are a life saver.  I would have never imagined it would be related to virtualbox
[15:28] <contrast> WoodyOSU: i would try commenting out that line (putting a "#" a the beginning of it) in /etc/pm/config.d/unload_modules after the next virtualbox update and seeing what happens... yeah, i was w/o suspend for ~a week before it finally occured to me.
[15:28] <azous> exit
[15:28] <lolcat> kernelpanicker: Didn't work, that is clearly a crappy host.
[15:29] <user_564> Geuss no one is smart enough for this one...
[15:29] <WoodyOSU> contrast: thanks so much, take care bye
[15:30] <kernelpanicker> lolcat: yep, lol... thanks for checking... I had a Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on there... oh well
[15:30] <contrast> WoodyOSU: np, peace
[15:31] <user_564> How can I see what programs are required to run Google Chrome?
[15:31] <contrast> user_564: you still didn't give me the info i asked for which is kinda necessary to troubleshoot your issue
[15:31] <bytesaber_work> why'd they drop gnome?   to useful?
[15:33] <BluesKaj> user_564, why 2 versions of chrome for one thing .and your attitude could use some adjusting ..ppl here are trying help , not to prove how smart they are
[15:33] <lolcat> user_564: apt-get install chromium-browser will tell you
[15:33] <contrast> you read my mind, BluesKaj
[15:33] <bazhang> bytesaber_work, they did not drop gnome, you can use classic if you dont like unity
[15:33] <bazhang> !classic | bytesaber_work
[15:33] <BluesKaj> contrast, shh... he'll think I have the answer :)
[15:34] <contrast> hahaha
[15:34] <user_564> I'm not sure what I deleted...I did an update and Ubuntu installed alot of crap so I removed some files....chromium-browser is already the newest version.
[15:35] <user_564> Did "apt-get install chromium-browser" but still Google Chrome and Chromium stalls
[15:35] <bytesaber_work> i know how to get to gnome.  just wondering why they dropped it as the default.
[15:35] <contrast> user_564: you should never delete files outside of your home directory unless you know 110% what you're doing. just for future reference. ;-)
[15:35] <mbeierl> contrast: np, I am just confused by this and have not figured out what the real culprit is for my memory usage :(
[15:36] <user_564> I have Google Chrome and when I did an Ubuntu update it installed Chromium
[15:37] <user_564> Contrast: I didn't delete from home directory...I removed programs from Software Centre
[15:37] <contrast> user_564: ahh, ok... well that's good then.
[15:38] <BluesKaj> user_564, I'm confused why you need 2 different versions of the same browser ..
[15:38] <contrast> user_564: i would probably just completely remove chromium and chrome in software center, then install them again. that should bring back in whatever dependencies you got rid of.
[15:38] <contrast> BluesKaj: he didn't install chromium, it came in as a dependency of something, if i'm understanding correctly
[15:39] <LABcrab> Hello everyone!  Trying to boot Ubuntu live CD on my Toshiba notebook, but is seems to freeze.
[15:40] <user_564> It must be something to do with displaying multiple web results under a site....As I said I have Google Chrome installed and when I did an update Ubuntu installed Chromium. I did remove the packages and installed them again but still the same.
[15:40] <urthmover> What is a simple CLI tool that I can run to ping a host and if the time exceeds a threshold then I get an email?
[15:40] <CyL> Ubuntu is saying that I cannot run synaptic because it failed to escalate my privileges, how do I install software?
[15:40] <luigi> urthmover: You should write a script for that.
[15:40] <urthmover> I don't want to build out nagios
[15:40]  * BluesKaj is even more confused ..FF is the default afaik
[15:40] <Roasted> Has anybody used FOG to mass image Linux systems?
[15:40] <urthmover> agreed luigi  where do I begin  to do that?
[15:40] <urthmover> luigi: how do I script something that will look at time= and then react?
[15:41] <rumpe1> urthmover, use crontab
[15:41] <CyL> Ubuntu is saying sudo does not allow me tu run Synaptic! How do I install software in Ubuntu 11.04?
[15:41] <luigi> urthmover: You can do it in bash easily. Use sed or grep or something to parse the output of "ping" and have it check the latency. You could put the script in your crontab.
[15:42] <luigi> urthmover: Ask in #bash if you'd like more help.
[15:42] <contrast> CyL: you're trying "sudo synaptic" from the command line?
[15:42] <urthmover> luigi: great  thanks for the pointers  I'll reach out to #bash if I can't figure out sed
[15:42] <CyL> contrast: nope, just choosing synaptic from the menu, but it asks me for the password
[15:42] <contrast> CyL: you're the default user on the system?
[15:42] <user_564> Can anyone tell me how can I just reload the last Unbuntu update
[15:43] <CyL> contrast: I'm the default user
[15:43] <CyL> contrast: the only user
[15:43] <contrast> CyL: can you pastebin the exact error you get after putting in your password?
[15:43] <CyL> contrast: sure, but it would be in my local language
[15:44] <contrast> CyL: ahh, nvm then. :)
[15:44] <Roasted> What's a good way to mass image Ubuntu installs?
[15:44] <maalac> Roasted: what do you mean mass image ?
[15:44] <CyL> contrast: but is basically says that I'm not allowed to run synaptic as root acoording to sudo
[15:45] <Roasted> maalac, mass image... as in... take 1 system, snapshot it, and using fog or ghost or something, kick it out to hundreds more systems.
[15:45] <contrast> CyL: but you're able to run other programs as root via sudo?
[15:45] <user_564> So I'm stuck with Firefox then? Unless I reinstall Ubuntu AGAIN...
[15:46] <CyL> contrast: what the hell, I tried to use apt-get to install the software and sudo says my user is not on the sudoers file!
[15:46] <maalac> Roasted: you mean real time? if it's not. you can use norton ghost.
[15:46] <CyL> contrast: what is more impressive is that I had just added my user to a particular group!
[15:46] <luigi> CyL: Reboot, boot with the "recovery mode" entry, type usermod -aG sudo <username>
[15:46] <Roasted> maalac, norton ghost is a bad joke. I use FOG for my imaging needs. Problem is I'm trying to figure out how to make FOG work with Linux clients.
[15:47] <Roasted> maalac, however, if I can't find a way to make Linux work with FOG, I'll need something else. I highly doubt Ghost would support Linux systems.
[15:47] <luigi> CyL: You probably removed all your old groups from your user by incorrectly using usermod.
[15:47] <contrast> user_564: erm, you (or the user management gui) must have accidentally removed you from the sudo group in the process
[15:47] <CyL> luigi: I had just realized that
[15:47] <alex--> Can't we make the install process faster, by letting the user type his user account details when the install is busy?
[15:47] <contrast> Roasted: have you checked out clonezilla?
[15:47] <CyL> luigi: I forgot to pass the apend option to usermod
[15:48] <Roasted> contrast, yeah. Clonezilla LIVE is super nice, but clonezilla server I never got working.
[15:48] <Roasted> contrast, I need something to do this over the network, like 30 systems at a time.
[15:48] <luigi> alex--: The debian installer is rather bloated these days, as is ubitquity. While that might be possible, who's going to write the code for it?
[15:48] <luigi> *ubiquity
[15:48] <alex--> bloated?
[15:48] <CyL> luigi: so what groups should I be member of? And how do I access the bott selection menu?
[15:48] <luigi> Roasted: I can help you with that.
[15:48] <alex--> luigi: What do you mean with bloated?
[15:48] <Roasted> luigi, you've used FOG?
[15:49] <maalac> Roasted: have you tried clonezilla
[15:49] <contrast> maalac: ^
[15:49] <Roasted> maalac, as I said, clonezilla live, yes. clonezilla server, never got it working.
[15:49] <user_564> Contrast: No...I removed something that Uubntu installed from the last update...now Google Chrome or Chromium is not working. It's got to be displaying HTML5 results that crashes the program
[15:49] <luigi> Roasted: Set up a PXE boot server on your lan that points to an install image of ubuntu or whatever that's set to use the preseed file you've used in your installer.
[15:49] <luigi> Roasted: All the clients will install automatically.
[15:49] <Roasted> luigi, that's pretty much what FOG does.
[15:49] <luigi> No need to reimage, though.
[15:49] <Roasted> luigi, problem is, I'm getting corrupt FS errors when I try toupload the image via fog.
[15:50] <luigi> You shouldn't be reimaging.
[15:50] <luigi> You should be installing with the debian installer.
[15:50] <Roasted> I need to upload the image first...
[15:50] <Roasted> then I deploy it to the clients...
[15:50] <luigi> alex--: Take a look at the source for ubiquity.
[15:50] <luigi> Roasted: You don't use an image EVER with what I'm saying.
[15:50] <Roasted> there are customizations I have on these images for our students that a "debian installer" cannot do. So I set it up exactly the way I need.
[15:50] <Roasted> luigi, and I'm telling you that's what I need to do.
[15:50] <luigi> Roasted: Define these customizations.
[15:51] <Roasted> I need to set up a system the way I need. snapshot it. and then deploy it.
[15:51] <alex--> luigi: Can't we put this screen when it's installing ubuntu?: For best results; Download updates while installing; Install this third-party software
[15:51] <luigi> Roasted: Oh, I know a utility for that. Remastersys
[15:51] <Roasted> luigi, shortcuts to network shares on every desktop by setting the default profile, specific printer settings and installation, etc.
[15:51] <Roasted> luigi, well that just creates a custom ISO, right?
[15:51] <alex--> luigi: Like the timezone screen is
[15:51] <Roasted> luigi, I was hoping to bypass that and automate the installation to these systems. After all, we're talking a potential of thousands of systems here.
[15:51] <luigi> Roasted: Yes, and that custom ISO is a perfect snapshot of the system you run it on.
[15:51] <Roasted> luigi, I'd rather be able to do them in batches of 30 over the network instead of using a custom ISO for each. individual. system. :(
[15:51] <luigi> Roasted: The automation happens with a preseed and PXE.
[15:51] <contrast> i don't have software center installed atm; does anyone know if it has a history feature like synaptic?
[15:52] <Roasted> luigi, oh so I dont just burn the ISO to a CD or whatever?
[15:52] <user_564> Can anyone help me pleeeease?
[15:52] <jrib> user_564: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[15:53] <luigi> Roasted: No. You make the remastersys ISO, tweak it with debian-preseed so the installer runs automatically, then set up a PXE server to host that image. Have the clients boot from PXE, install the remastersys env, and you're all set.
[15:53] <Roasted> luigi, this is making my head spin. Do you have a guide for something like this?
[15:53] <luigi> alex--: Write the code for it, then.
[15:53] <Roasted> luigi, the only "pxe server" I've set up was FOG, whcih is pretty automated.
[15:53] <alex--> luigi: I can't
[15:53] <luigi> alex--: Then don't act as if it's a simple thing to do.
[15:54] <user_564> what Java software is required to run Google Chrome or Chromium?
[15:54] <alex--> luigi: for programmers it is
[15:54] <luigi> alex--: You're not a programmer, are you?
[15:54] <contrast> user_564: do you have "sun-java6-plugin" installed?
[15:54] <alex--> luigi: no
[15:54] <luigi> alex--: Then don't act like one.
[15:54] <user_564> How can I check that it the terminal?
[15:54] <alex--> I dont act like one
[15:54] <alex--> I just want these things in ubuntu
[15:55] <Roasted> alex--, you want things in ubuntu that you cannot/will not contribute to building?
[15:55] <contrast> i love how people assume programmers are magical wizards that can just whip up any solution with minimal time and effort.
[15:55] <Roasted> contrast, GASP. they're not?!
[15:55] <contrast> ;)
[15:55] <user_564> Yes sun-java6-plugin is installed to latest version
[15:55] <luigi> Roasted: These three guides should help. http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/478 (For setting up PXE.) http://www.ubuntugeek.com/creating-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-with-remastersys.html (For making the remastersys image) http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/tmp/en.i386/apb.html (For preseed set up)
[15:56] <Roasted> luigi, I wonder if I can set these up in tandem with my FOG server, which is already on Ubuntu 10.04.
[15:56] <alex--> Roasted: i can give idea's
[15:56] <alex--> Is there btw any way to customize Unity?
[15:56] <Roasted> luigi, it'd be nice ifmy image ideas ran in dual mode - FOG + Preseed.
[15:56] <Myrtti> alex--: this isn't really a place for them, if you want that feedback to be heard then please file it to Launchpad
[15:56] <user_564> What else could it be?
[15:56] <ikonia-remote> alex--: define customise
[15:56] <alex--> ikonia-remote: place it in bottom or hide some bars
[15:57] <luigi> Roasted: I would scrap FOG at the moment and follow the guides here that work. :P I have no experience with fog, so I can't really help you there. I do have experience with those other three, however.
[15:57] <alex--> or place upper bar in left down corner
[15:57] <luigi> Roasted: Honestly though, automated clonezilla installs would work too.
[15:57] <Roasted> luigi, eh. I <3 fog. since we're a dual environment I'll still need FOG for windows. it'd just be nice if I could do this from the same server.
[15:57] <contrast> user_564: to see if a package is installed: "apt-cache policy <package>" (that shows the availble versions and which, if any, are installed) or "dpkg --get-selections | grep <package>"
[15:57] <Roasted> luigi, via CZ server?
[15:57] <luigi> Roasted: I don't know, I've only used CZ manually before.
[15:58] <user_564> sun-java6-plugin is installed to latest version!
[15:58] <luigi> Roasted: What you're trying to do is similar to deploying an automated install over network. Those guides are how it's typically done. If you want to use FOG for this, go ahead, but don't expect much help. ;)
[15:58] <contrast> alex--: i think i saw an article for a unity customization program on http://omgubuntu.co.uk , you might have a look on there
[15:59] <Roasted> luigi, well FOG has a "linux" option, but it's just being a brat. FOG is easily the best. thing. ever. for imaging Windows systems. I was just hoping to utilize the same app for it.
[15:59] <Roasted> luigi, but if I can do the job with another alternative, I'll do it.
[15:59] <luigi> Roasted: Best of luck =D
[15:59] <R-088> Hello Ubuntu channels
[15:59] <user_564> I get this error: flashplugin-nonfree : Depends: flashplugin-installer but it is not going to be installed.
[15:59] <iamaham> Greetings anyone know what would cause lpr -o Options to no longer work, but they work fine under Windows when selecting them? namely punch and staple
[15:59] <Roasted> luigi, ultimately, I could PXE boot systems on a local LAN and thereby crash them and have the system plop this custom image/ISO on the systems in question, right?
[15:59] <Roasted> luigi, I just want to make sure what you're suggesting will do exactly what I need. :P
[16:00] <luigi> Roasted: "crash" them?
[16:00] <Roasted> luigi, well, when I use FOG, it over-writes whatever is on the HDD and puts my image over top of it.
[16:00] <CarlFK> whats the device name of a 2nd audio device output?
[16:00] <Roasted> luigi, these systems have XP on them currently.
[16:00] <Roasted> luigi, when I do this I want XP to be written over with this Ubuntu image I'm setting up
[16:00] <contrast> user_564: now *there* is some useful output. which release of ubuntu are you on?
[16:00] <luigi> Roasted: You'll PXE boot the systems, and they'll install an exact copy of the remastersys environment by wiping the hard drive first *if* you set that option in the debian installer.
[16:01] <iamaham> any tips
[16:01] <user_564> Ubuntu 10.10
[16:01] <Roasted> luigi, I see. so it sounds like it'll work in a similar fashion. I'll keep reading and use my laptop as a guinea pig for this test setup. thanks a lot bro.
[16:01] <luigi> Roasted: Basically, you run the debian installer once with the options you want all the other systems yo use.
[16:01] <luigi> Roasted: No problem. Good luck!
[16:02] <R-088> If anyone here is familiar with DNS and ubuntu server I have a few questions.
[16:02] <iamaham> Here are the printer options
[16:02] <iamaham> http://pastebin.com/hCd240gp
[16:02] <iamaham> and here is the command I use to use to print punch:
[16:02] <iamaham> lpr -POffice_Sharp -o OutputBin=Output1 -o ARPunch=True -r
[16:02] <usr13> user_564: apt-get -f install
[16:02] <contrast> user_564: can you pastebin the output from this command: dpkg --get-selections | grep flash
[16:02] <usr13> user_564: sudo apt-get -f install
[16:03] <iamaham> Output1 being the finisher that does the punch/stapling
[16:03] <luigi> R-088: I am. Go ahead and ask.
[16:03] <luigi> R-088: Though you may want to ask in #ubuntu-server
[16:03] <usr13> user_564: Or, you can go to the software-center and install Adobe Flashplayer 10
[16:03] <user_564> Did sudo apt-get -f install (No upgrade)
[16:04] <user_564> dpkg --get-selections | grep flash (Shows ALL INSTALLED)
[16:04] <kaiyin> how do i disable my notebook keyboard?
[16:04] <R-088> Ok so I have a domain name from NoIp.com
[16:04] <contrast> user_564: "ALL" ?
[16:04] <usr13> user_564: Then uninstall it and get Adobe Flashplaer 10
[16:05] <R-088> when im outside my lan it works fine, i can connect with the domain name.
[16:05] <usr13> *flashplayer
[16:05] <R-088> I wanted to set up a way to use the domain in my lan
[16:05] <R-088> as of right on I have to type in my 192... Private address
[16:05] <contrast> the thing is, chrome uses its own version of flashplugin, so it shouldn't be affected by the seperate flashplugin package regardless
[16:06] <bluelamp> i have a question regarding self resetting permissions .. even logged in as root, i am unable to "have sufficient access" to alter file permissions "
[16:06] <user_564> I have Adobe Flashplayer 10 Installed
[16:07] <bluelamp> when i change them, the check-box or what ever will change itself back before i can even clock "ok"
[16:07] <bluelamp> any takers ?
[16:07] <usr13> R-088: Be patient. Sometimes it takes a while for nameservers to get updated info.
[16:07] <luigi> R-088: What's the ouput of "nslookup <your domain name>"?
[16:08] <contrast> user_564: have you tried moving your chrome user data folder and seeing how it does with a clean profile? (you should have a folder like ~/.chrome, ~/.google/chrome, ~/.config/chrome or ~/.config/google/chrome - try renaming it to chrome-OLD)
[16:08] <RyanP> I'm trying to run the OpenOffice document converter wizard under Ubuntu 10.04 and I'm getting the message 'Sorry, Filesystem Problem', and the script debugger starts. This worked fine yesterday. Any idea what causes this?
[16:08] <yang_> hi, is someone who used libcurl?
[16:09] <bluelamp> file permissions under root didn't seem like a difficult question.. is it ?
[16:09] <usr13> user_564: Restart your browser
[16:09] <dhenson714> got a pretty simple issue if anyone's free to help out. i need a bit of advice on wireless connectivity, but i can't find anyone else who's had the same issue
[16:09] <user_564> I delete all the data in those folders but still the same...Should I try renaming it still?
[16:09] <yang_> Or someone who dumped a lib to source code level based on ubuntu? I need some help.
[16:10] <luigi> dhenson714: Just go ahead and ask!
[16:10] <dhenson714> my internet typically doesnt connect unless my computer charger is plugged in. ever heard about this happening?
[16:10] <contrast> user_564: if you already tried deleting it and got the same problem on a clean chrome profile, then no
[16:11] <jpmh> I set up two accounts - the nm-applet shows in one and not the other - why and how do I get it to show in both
[16:11] <contrast> dhenson714: not particularly, though i've known of certain bioses switching off the wireless until it's actually called for when running on the battery (to preserve power)
[16:11] <user_564> It must be something I deleted...It's works fine only untill I view certain pagegs
[16:12] <dhenson714> see, i got a battery power applet that has a bunch of battery usage settings, and i think that might be it. i had to when i upgraded to natty, but i dont care for the applet itself
[16:12] <bluelamp> dhenson714, sounds like a hardware issue. as in, your hardware has an issue. insufficient power can cause week radio strengths .
[16:12] <contrast> dhenson714: you might [very carefully] check in your bios settings to see if there's any way to disable that
[16:12] <dhenson714> it's fine when i unplug it though
[16:12] <dhenson714> it just has to be plugged in to connect initially
[16:12] <user_564> Google Chrome and Chromium stalls at the same pages
[16:12] <yang_> I want to dump libcurl from a lib to source code level, to use it. But after that, it could not work.
[16:13] <helo> anyone know why there's no /usr/arm-linux-gnueabi/lib/crt0.o, only crt1.o?
[16:13] <contrast> user_564: just so people don't misunderstand you (as i did), you may want to start saying "uninstalled" instead of "deleted" ;)
[16:13] <bluelamp> ok, so byting radio issues is easy whole root file permissions is difficult ?
[16:13] <helo> i'm compiling this package that is failing to link because of crt0.o
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> user_564: depends on the build you are using
[16:13] <dhenson714> i'll check the bios, but i honestly didnt think this was anything more than a weird fluke. thanks for your help, guys!
[16:13] <helo> s/package/tarball/
[16:13] <contrast> helo: have you tried searching for that file with apt-file?
[16:13] <bluelamp> i have a question regarding permissions .. even logged in as root, i am unable to "have sufficient access" to alter file permissions "
[16:13] <yang_> I think that could be the config file's problem. but i don't know which one to use.
[16:13] <helo> contrast: yes
[16:14] <jrib> bluelamp: be more specific
[16:14] <helo> contrast: there's no gnueabi version of crt0.o... only crt1.o
[16:14] <gex_83> bonjour
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> bluelamp: is the partition NTFS based?
[16:15] <javier_> hi! someone knows how to automatically download cover art in Banshee 2.0 (ubuntu 11.04)? thanks!
[16:15] <contrast> helo: sounds like the makefile is looking for an outdated version of that library. you *could* try downloading the package for the older version of the library from packages.ubuntu.com and seeing if you're able to install it on your current version, though this could wreck havoc...
[16:16] <contrast> helo: what are you trying to compile?
[16:17] <bluelamp> ok. the file systems that i am having problems with are ntfs and fat32. i keep eveyrthing on these partitions so that should i have to re-install, the main partition does not hold any important files of my own. this is a habbit from using windows ... protecting my files from MS's mandatory system failure feature. (C) MicroSoft Corp. [all rights reserved]
[16:17] <bluelamp> i have not attemtped changing these settings on the system partition
[16:17] <dsafds> irc.gr
[16:17] <Citizenwarrior> Ok I have used all my GoogleFu, the best link I can provide to show a simple example is this h**p://tinyurl.com/3qgyurs from a backtrack-linux.org post.  What I want to know is this, If I create an encrypted install of Ubuntu on a laptop with /boot on a USB drive so that is acts as a "ignition key" for my computer can I then store other items on that same USB drive?
[16:17] <contrast> user_564: sorry, but i'm pretty much at a loss... you might post your issue on the forums (with all relevant details) and see if anyone there can figure out what's wrong
[16:18] <contrast> Citizenwarrior: i can't see why not
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> blueamp: you cannot change permissions on WIndows partitions, they are too primitive to hold Linux permissions. Instead you set the access when you mount it
[16:18] <user_564> No other thing...When I plug in my external USB drive I have to wait around 5min or maybe 30min before it popsup. In Windows it works fine...NTFS partition
[16:19] <bluelamp> ActionParsnip, thanks, what can i do to fix this ?
[16:19] <contrast> Citizenwarrior: i would probably make a seperate partition for /boot on there though
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> blueamp: when you mount it, set the access you desire
[16:19] <bluelamp> ActionParsnip, when i mount them, i do not see an option for permision granting
[16:19] <user_564> It's a HDD
[16:19] <helo> contrast: qt3-embedded for arm
[16:20] <bsdfox> I just got a PC setup with 11.04 and the radeon driver has much better full screen performance (looks good..) vs the fglrx driver but the desktop runs really smooth with fglrx
[16:20] <bsdfox> anyone got advice on settings I should check?
[16:20] <Citizenwarrior> contrast does the /boot have to be the first thing installed on that drive or can I use a drive that already has shit on it also on your second point would i have to take any special steps to make a system pick the right partition to boot from
[16:20] <user_564> Nevermind...
[16:21] <bluelamp> perhaps it is a command line feature not easily obtained by a Graphic file manager
[16:21] <Lint> ActionParsnip, surely you meant the other way
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> blueamp: then you will need to use cli or add it in fstab to set the options
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> lint: what other way?
[16:21] <contrast> Citizenwarrior: shouldn't matter about the order, as the boot loader gets installed to the drive's mbr, not a particular partition
[16:22] <maya_> wow
[16:22] <maya_> so many people here
[16:22] <maya_> any chinese?
[16:22] <ikonia-remote> !cn | maya_
[16:22] <contrast> Citizenwarrior: so you would run the grub-install command and when it prompts you, point it to /dev/sdb (or whatever drive it is), not /dev/sdb1
[16:22] <maya_> thx
[16:23] <contrast> Citizenwarrior: of course, you would want to do that *after* creating a new partition where /boot would be stored, ~100MB should be a safe size
[16:23] <bluelamp> ActionParsnip, here is an issue though. i have a installer for CaRMetal . it copy it to an 8gig SD and put the card in my asus eee pc  running xandros linux. the file will not execute. what file system would be good for my 8gig SD card that both versions of linux will find easy to handle ?
[16:23] <bluelamp> ActionParsnip, this way, i can evade the major portion of this permission issue :)
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> bluelamp: how is that relasted to Ubuntu?
[16:24] <bluelamp> ubuntu is my main system. the asus eee pc  is a system i use at work in my free time there
[16:24] <bluelamp> ActionParsnip,
[16:24] <contrast> gotta go... peace and good luck, everyone
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> bluelamp: if you use it in both Ubuntu and Xandros, make it Ext2 based and it will be able to hold Linux file permissions
[16:25] <bluelamp> ActionParsnip, perhaps i should be more clear. what linux file system is good for older and lesser variants of linux.
[16:25] <Citizenwarrior>  contrast thanks your covering all my questions... ok so I have a 32g pico drive in the mail, I am ramping up for a technology swap/upgrade however I am a few weeks out, if I take the new drive, make a 150mb partition for /boot to live on when I by my new system, then I can start loading the other partition with whatever I want.  Is my thinking right?
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> bluelamp: they will all access ext2 and ext3 just fine
[16:25] <bluelamp> ActionParsnip, thanks, you have been helpful . :)
[16:26] <randomseed> bluelamp, maybe it needs to be remounted executable or read write
[16:26] <Roasted> man gparted has been a brat in 11.04
[16:26] <Roasted> sits there and wont complete scanning my disk
[16:26] <Lint> ext2 is useless, being in permanent corruptrd state
[16:27] <Lint> ext3 should work
[16:27] <bluelamp> ActionParsnip, am i correct in identifying the number as a version indicator and considering ext3 to be an improvement over ext2 thus choosing the later ?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> bluelamp: ext3 is simply ext2 with a journal
[16:28] <bluelamp> ActionParsnip, thank you
[16:28]  * bluelamp leaves
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> bluelamp: the journal gets written to a lot and helps maintain file consistency as well as prevent fragmentation. It will reduce the lifespan of a flash based storage
[16:29] <bluelamp> ActionParsnip, good. ext 2 is the better choice :)
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> both have advantages
[16:29] <hid> Hi, I've just bought a laptop, what should I know concerning the battery ?
[16:29] <bluelamp> ActionParsnip, the eee pc 900 is 100% flash based
[16:29] <bluelamp> for file storage
[16:29]  * bluelamp is gone
[16:30] <randomseed> hid, check Google for recalls, especially HP laptop batteries
[16:31] <hid> randomseed: I found different informations who are contradictory
[16:32] <jpmh> I have a netbook with an internal mic - for some reason ubuntu is not showing it - or even the mic socket as options for sound input - how do I get them to show up
[16:32] <hid> they say I "should use the battery till it stops
[16:32] <randomseed> hid, contradictory?  What in content?
[16:33] <hid> and other saying it might deteriorate it
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> jpmh: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[16:34] <akSeya> hello folks.. i have searched everywhere, but couldn't find a solution to my problem.. tftpd-hpa keeps timing out.. it connects OK, but I get time out if I try to get or put a file
[16:35] <randomseed> hid, a lot of that info is old. I would be more inclined to trust an official site concerning your particular battery.
[16:36] <akSeya> here is my tftpd-hpa config file http://paste.pocoo.org/show/464407/
[16:37] <randomseed> hid, read all the info you got with your laptop.
[16:37] <jpmh> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/8rik6Yrm
[16:37] <JakeyChan_> hi
[16:37] <JakeyChan_> pipe question
[16:38] <JakeyChan_> ls gmessage/* 1>&0 | zip gmessage.zip -@
[16:38] <randomseed> hid, they should warn you about any bad habits
[16:38] <keyboardtalk> How can I force cron jobs to run when there are no users logged on?
[16:38] <Pici> keyboardtalk: They should always run no matter who is logged in.
[16:39] <JakeyChan_> I want to set stdout redirect to stdin and the let zip command read the stdin for the variable :)
[16:39] <JakeyChan_> ls gmessage/* 1>&0 | zip gmessage.zip -@ it is wrong ..
[16:39] <JakeyChan_> how to fix it ? :)
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> jpmh: http://pastebin.com/vpRFAdtr   should be ok
[16:39] <Pici> JakeyChan_: #bash would be a better place to ask this.
[16:40] <keyboardtalk> Pici: they only seem to run when someone is logged in. I'm using the root crontab
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> keyboardtalk: cron as root and you can use su -c command username
[16:41] <Pici> keyboardtalk: Look at /var/log/syslog it should show when cron tasks run.
[16:42] <wesblake> Hi there! Could anyone help me with udev rules on 11.04? Or point me in the right direction? I have followed many guides for hours and it seems my rule is ignored still. :(
[16:42] <Pici> keyboardtalk: Perhaps your jobs are just failing if no one is logged in. What are they supposed to do?
[16:42] <jpmh> ActionParsnip: thank you - but why do I need that - clearly I can not test without a reboot
[16:43] <ScatterBrain> Anyone have a Latitude E6500 running 11.04?  I can't get the installer to run.  Gets to the point of showing "Ubuntu" on the screen with the flashing dots.  Then just stops.
[16:43] <keyboardtalk> Pici: backup scripts. Does someone have to be logged in for the script to access home directories?
[16:44] <Pici> keyboardtalk: No. Although... do these users have encrypted homes?
[16:44] <Roasted> ScatterBrain, no, but I'm on an E5500 as we speak.
[16:44] <Roasted> ScatterBrain, did you check MD5 of the ISO you downloaded? If it's a CD, burned at slowest speed?
[16:44] <hid> randomseed: i dont trust official websites because they dont give good concils. They wanna money so.... I prefer to trust  user experiences
[16:44] <ScatterBrain> Roasted: No, but I will now.
[16:44] <hid> thank you anyway
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> jpmh: not sure, its just one solution I thought of
[16:45] <keyboardtalk> Pici: I think so
[16:45] <jpmh> ActionParsnip: LOL & ty - will be right back after a re-boot then
[16:45] <Pici> keyboardtalk: I'm not really sure what to do in that case.
[16:46] <Roasted> any idea why a flash drive wouldn't mount upon plugging it in?
[16:46] <keyboardtalk> Pici: should I just make a separate directory on the system for backup stuff?
[16:46] <Roasted> I see it in sudo fdisk -l
[16:48] <genii-around> Roasted: It's possible you have an fstab entry for the drive designation which has the noauto option
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> roasted: was it gracefully removed last time it was removed
[16:51] <genii-around> Other reasons thing don't mount: unknown/unspecified filesystem, overdue fsck, user attempting to mount does not have sudo rights
[16:51] <undefffff> is natty worth it or 10.10 is ok?
[16:51] <wesblake> Hi there! Could anyone help me with udev rules on 11.04? Or point me in the right direction? I have followed many guides for hours and it seems my rule is ignored still. :(
[16:53] <SaEeDIRHA> hello guys , i have two network devices with static ip address, but when both devices are active my internet requests goes very very slow , and i have to deactivate one device in order to fix it
[16:53] <RyanP> I'm trying to run the OpenOffice document converter wizard under Ubuntu 10.04 and I'm getting the message 'Sorry, Filesystem Problem', and the script debugger starts. This worked fine yesterday. Any idea what causes this? I have thousands of documents to convert, so it would be really nice to have this working.
[16:53] <crazyvash117> hi im having a problem with 11.04 its underclocking my processor and idk how to fix it
[16:54] <Ranseus> I need to install PHP 5.3.6 on Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS -- the best link found via Google (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11124386) doesn't seem to do the trick. Any other suggestions?
[16:54] <Calinou> damn
[16:54] <Calinou> I accidentally removed the xchat icon in the top right
[16:54] <Calinou> how do I restore it?
[16:55] <Reaper> find it in applications then right click on it and click add to
[16:55] <Reaper> desktop
[16:56] <Calinou> no, I speak of the top right
[16:56] <bsdfox> how can I find out what files a .deb installed?
[16:56] <Calinou> now, when I'm logged in to xchat
[16:56] <helo> FIRE!
[16:56] <phillyj> i'm trying to run the command "$sudo sensors-detect" but i get the error that I need to run the script as root
[16:56] <phillyj> whats going on? it doesn't ask me for my password either
[16:56] <Pici> bsdfox: dpkg -l packagename
[16:56] <aiju> what's the default root password after the installer times out?
[16:56] <Calinou> I don't see the top right icon, this means if I close the xchat window
[16:56] <Calinou> > forced to kill the process
[16:56] <tensorpudding> bsdfox: open the file in the archive manager
[16:57] <Reaper> Oh, got me on that one lol
[16:57] <tensorpudding> bsdfox: there should be directories in there, showing the paths that files will be installed to
[16:57] <padhu> Pici: try anacron
[16:57] <tensorpudding> bsdfox: ignore the DEBIAN directory though, that's packaging information
[16:57] <Pici> padhu: I'm jot asking a question.
[16:59] <tensorpudding> bsdfox: a .deb file is basically just the compressed files; installing is copying the files to the right places and registering it in the system, running a few tasks to configure it
[16:59] <jpmh> ActionParsnip: well - rebooted - no better the only audio input device is still: internal audio analog stereo
[16:59] <bsdfox> tensorpudding: I'm trying to figure out where flashplugin-installer put the binary
[17:00] <rypervenche2> aiju: There is no root password.
[17:00] <tensorpudding> bsdfox: the actual plugin is put in /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so
[17:00] <jpmh> a new problem, since last boot, the first account which is supposed to be auto-login - logs in but then tells me that the login keyring needs to be ublocked - what is this - how did I create it and how do I get rid of it
[17:00] <bsdfox> tensorpudding: that directory is empty for me
[17:00] <Calinou> rebooted, it's still not ther
[17:00] <Calinou> and it gives a ugly space
[17:00] <Calinou> jpmh: you can't get rid of it
[17:01] <Calinou> deal with it, like I do
[17:01] <tensorpudding> bsdfox: are you sure?
[17:01] <jpmh> Calinou: not an acceptable answer - if I created it I can get rif of it
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> jpmh: why do you need cron to help sound?
[17:01] <stealz> I need some help. I put conky in the startup applications, but it starts too soon, so it will be displayed for half a second on the desktop of the login screen, but not on my actual desktop when I'm logged in
[17:01] <bsdfox> tensorpudding: yeah. let me reinstall it
[17:01] <tensorpudding> bsdfox: try doing a search for the file libflashplayer.so in /usr
[17:02] <cbhl> jpmh: The password on your keyring should be the same as your account; when you set up auto-login, you bypass entering your password but the keyring still needs your password for unlocking
[17:02] <jpmh> ActionParsnip: I do not understand you question - why do you believe that I believe that I need cron
[17:02] <bsdfox> tensorpudding: I only see the 11.2 beta I installed manually
[17:02] <Exodus> bsdfox, if you're trying to install Flash, go to the software center and install it from there. The package name is 'adobe-flashplugin'
[17:02] <roue> hola
[17:02] <cbhl> jpmh: There might be a way to change the keyring password to be no password, but then it leaves all your saved passwords unencrypted on your drive (generally a bad idea)
[17:02] <jpmh> cbhl:  this was not the case till the last boot - it just logged me in - what changed
[17:02] <tensorpudding> bsdfox: maybe it's not installed then
[17:02] <tensorpudding> bsdfox: installing the beta might have overwrote the old one
[17:02] <Exodus> bsdfox, flashplugin-installer just runs a script to download the flashplugin, maybe it failed for you.
[17:02] <cbhl> jpmh: When you log in using your password, it automatically unlocked the keyring at the same time
[17:03] <cbhl> jpmh: When you login without your password, it doesn't have your password at login so it can't unlock the keyring
[17:03] <bsdfox> I installed from console and the file is there now
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> jpmh: just curious
[17:03] <bsdfox> my flash performance is still pretty bad though
[17:03] <cbhl> jpmh: So it prompts instead
[17:03] <roue> I'm wondering how hostnames are dynamically defined. I have a virtual host that's coming up with a hostname like "ip-192-168-0-1" and I'd like to modify the logic that's determining that. Anyone know what script it lives in?
[17:03] <jpmh> cbhl - I was not entering a password for that auto-account
[17:03] <roue> (this is for 11.04)
[17:04] <Exodus> bsdfox, try installing graphics acceleration for your video card.
[17:04] <Reaper> so one way or another your gonna be putting in a password lol
[17:04] <jpmh> ActionParsnip: I still don't understand the question - where did your question come from - why do you think cron is involved
[17:04] <cbhl> jpmh: There should have been one, though? :/
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> roue: you can set the hostname in /etc/hostname and you will need to set it in /etc/hosts at the same time, or sudo will fail. Open BOTH files then edit
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> jpmh: I guss my wires are crossed :-$
[17:04] <jpmh> cbhl: no - there should not - there is a non-admin account that is supposed to come up with no need to log in
[17:05] <jpmh> ActionParsnip: LOL - ty - did you see my messgae then that the sound changes you suggested made things no better
[17:05] <ScatterBrain> Roasted: Thanks, it was a bad ISO.  New ISO downloaded, burned, and now installing.
[17:05] <roue> ActionParsnip - I need to automate this. I'd rather change it where it's being initially set. I want to find the code that's doing that.
[17:05] <CM904> Hello guys! quick, and probably easy fix.  When I have my corded mouse plugged into my laptop, how do i completely disable the touchpad. but when its unplugged, the touchpad re-enables
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> roue: the file is what is used to set the name dude
[17:06] <linxxu> is ubuntu 11.04 really worth the upgrade or the 10.10 is better?
[17:06] <CM904> 10.10 is much
[17:06] <CM904> much better
[17:06] <linxxu> cool
[17:06] <fowl> lol
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> linxxu: there is no better, each has advantages
[17:06] <fowl> 11.04 has been flawless for me
[17:06] <CM904> if you are used to 10.04 or 10.10
[17:06] <bsdfox> Exodus: I installed fglrx and it seems fine. desktop is snappy and I can watch videos just fine in dragon player/vlc
[17:06] <CM904> your going to hate 11.04 D:
[17:06] <bsdfox> even full 1080p was working smoothly
[17:06] <linxxu> just heard the user interface is terrible in 11.04
[17:07] <CM904> that is what i HATE
[17:07] <linxxu> and things arent easy to find
[17:07] <CM904> about the user interface
[17:07] <Reaper> I dont use the new interface, I like classic better
[17:07] <linxxu> so came here to ask :P
[17:07] <CM904> no they are not. you have to do it terminal if you wanna be fast with it
[17:07] <fowl> linxxu: i thought that was GNOMEs fault
[17:07] <CM904> no
[17:07] <wesblake> Yes, Unity is not quite there yet, and slow, but in 11.04, you can still choose the "classic" interface!
[17:07] <CM904> its just, an awkward searching system
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> linuxxu: you can switch to classic gnome if you want, unity 2d will replace it in oneiric (I assume you mean gnome)
[17:07] <linxxu> but its ubuntus
[17:07] <fowl> oh yeah dont use unity, its the sucks
[17:08] <tetsuo--> hello. im upgrading to 11.04, but the upgrade process is spitting out 100ś of warnings
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> linuxxu: there are other desktops if you don't like gnome/unity etc
[17:08] <linxxu> i will probably download the image instead of upgrading
[17:08] <tetsuo--> warnings like these: Kon '/var/cache/apt/archives/libgudev-1.0-0_1%3a167-0ubuntu3_amd64.deb' niet installeren
[17:08] <CM904> its like going from a phone that will never break flip screen, can drop it in water, and then getting a full touch phone, its just really awkward at first, then you become much faster
[17:08] <jpds> linxxu: Er, why don't you just go and try it for yourself?
[17:08] <CM904> I do like how the applications tab on the side though, just try it for yourself I guess
[17:09] <linxxu> if there are many negative comments i wont download :D
[17:09] <wesblake> Could anyone help me with udev rules on 11.04? Or point me in the right direction? I have followed many guides for hours and it seems my rule is ignored still. :(
[17:09] <jpds> linxxu: Glad to see you're thinking for yourself.
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> linxxu: so you want strangers to tell you how to think....?
[17:09] <linxxu> :D
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> scary
[17:09] <linxxu> :P
[17:09] <naveen_> naveen
[17:10] <linxxu> ok then i will give it a try!
[17:10] <linxxu> :D
[17:11] <damidalla> h... I have a problem with my Hansol H750 monitor using ubuntu 11.04 and radeon OSS drivers: it always shows "out of range" - the problem isn't there using fglrx...
[17:11] <jpmh> to those who said live with the keyring issue, no, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1623347
[17:11] <CM904> ActionParsnip: if alot of people tell you that a restaurant is horrible, would you go? And you can't just leave this restaurant when you take the first bite. You have to 'backup', get out, go back to the same tried, and true resturant that you know and love, and the owner is really good friends with you.
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> damidalla: try the boot option: nomodeset
[17:12] <tetsuo--> will the 100ś of warnings during the upgrade cause a problem on next boot?
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> cm904: yes it's been the opposite in many cases, especially with restaurants
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> cm904: living vicariously is no life at all
[17:12] <cheche> Does anyone know of and application to fix JPEG headers/files?
[17:13] <muneeb> is there any way i can disable ati prop drivers for one boot?
[17:13] <linxxu> i find another 11.10 or some other version should i download that instead?
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> linxxu: its in alpha, there are ISOs you can download but its not stable
[17:14] <CM904> actionparsnip: Ah, good advice, I am 21, I should be more open to new things, might be great, some people hate broccoli and some love it I guess, but back on topic :D
[17:14] <cheche> muneeb: goin on rescue mode maybe
[17:14] <linxxu> um
[17:14] <wesblake> Anybody? andybody?...you know the next part.
[17:14] <muneeb> cheche, Recovery Mode?
[17:14] <linxxu> th3n 11.04 :)
[17:15] <CM904> wesblake: next part to what?
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> cm904: I'm 31 now, trying new is fun. It's how you got into Ubuntu right...I'm sure you used Windows for so long, just like the usual restaurant ;)
[17:15] <cheche> muneeb: when start there is a singlemode/recoverymode that let you start on graphics safe mode
[17:15] <linxxu> i also used windows but ubuntu shipped a cd to me and i tried it :D
[17:15] <wesblake> next part is Beuler. Anyways, anyone able to point me in the right direction on my udev rules quesiton?
[17:16] <linxxu> feels better than windows
[17:16] <muneeb> cheche, okay.. but i guess that mode disable all modules.. i just want prop drivers when i want to play games..
[17:16] <CM904> actionparsnip: Great analogy/metaphor. haha.
[17:17] <xibalba> hey all, anyone familiar with postfix? i'm trying to just use it as a localhost for email submission from a ticketing system running in apache. i'm then trying to relay that to a smart host which is my exchange srerver but i keep getting "recipient address rejected'
[17:17] <cheche> muneeb: i think that is more to fix problems.
[17:17] <CM904> uhh how do you type commands in this chat like /help
[17:17] <CM904> ?
[17:17] <CM904> D:
[17:17] <CM904> --help
[17:17] <cheche> muneeb: there is another way. disable propietary drivers and restart the system
[17:18] <CM904> D: oh sorry guys im spamming the chat, ma bad.
[17:18] <muneeb> cheche, yeah.. idk but something like rmmod but i don't know how..
[17:18] <cheche> muneeb: well there is another one.
[17:19] <cheche> muneeb: xorg.conf has defin the module to use.
[17:19] <linxxu> ?
[17:19] <linxxu> so this is for intel processors? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/11.04/release/ubuntu-11.04-dvd-i386.iso
[17:19] <cheche> muneeb: you can have 2 xorg.conf files. one with propietary driver and other without
[17:19] <muneeb> cheche, any pointers as to how can i go about it?
[17:19] <tetsuo--> guys im scared, how do i make sure ubuntu boots after this mostly failed upgrade finbishes?
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> linxxu: 32bit or 64bit?
[17:20] <linxxu> its an atom processor
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> linxxu: start with 32bit, it'll be easier
[17:21] <cheche> muneeb: /etc/X11/xorg.conf  Section "Device" Driver  "nvidia"
[17:21] <linxxu> ok
[17:21] <linxxu> ty
[17:22] <muneeb> cheche, thanks i'll see to it :)
[17:22] <dev777> hi all
[17:22] <stealz> hi
[17:22] <BluesKaj> linxxu, uname -a in the terminal will tell you whether it's 32 or 64 bit
[17:23] <linxxu> BluesKaj: i am about to download a new release, the one that i have now is 10.10 x86
[17:23] <stealz> my conky shows my processor as 2.0 GHz instead of the 2.4 GHz it actually has. Now I'm wondering if ubuntu runs the CPU at full capacity or only uses 2 GHz instead of the 2.4. Is there any way to find out and maybe change this?
[17:24] <BluesM> hellow
[17:24] <stealz> system monitor shows 2.5 ghz, but I am still not sure
[17:25] <usr13> linxxu: pastebinit /proc/cpuinfo   #Send resulting URL
[17:25] <BluesM> hellow
[17:25] <BluesM> :)
[17:25] <dev777> is there any command in ubuntu which is kind of opposite to sudo, allowing a program to force it run in unprivileged user mode?
[17:25] <BluesKaj> stealz, yes I believe the 'ondemand" state is default for cpu usage , which means it increase it's rate only when required
[17:26] <stealz> BluesKaj, thanks. Just ran a high demanding software, and then conky shows the full 2.5 GHz.
[17:26] <usr13> dev777: Apps are run according to their needs.  If it needs root or if it needs to run only in user space is up to the application and it's developers.
[17:26] <Danny_Joris_> Hi all - I'm an unix noob and I did something stupid in my Ubuntu VM. I did 'rm -r *' , not knowing it would remove everything from scratch. I thought it would only remove everything in my current folder... SO... that was stupid, but I only confirmed to remove  write-protected directory 'LOGPATH' ... I don't know what damage I've caused and how to revert it...
[17:27] <Danny_Joris_> I might have removed much more that didn't need confirmation...?
[17:27] <miktor> How do i reset the gnome display manager settings?
[17:27] <Pici> Danny_Joris_: It will only remove things from your current path. Where did you run that?
[17:27] <usr13> dev777: If you can give us specific information about a particular application, we might be able to give you spedific advise
[17:28] <Danny_Joris_> Pici: desktop/websites/example
[17:28] <Danny_Joris_> but it asked to remove some fedoragsearch.log file which can't be in that folder
[17:28] <stealz> dev777, if you are not logged in as root, all software runs in user mode by default, no need for an extra command
[17:29] <dev777> yes, but suppose i am the root and for some reason, i need to run a program with limited privilege from root.
[17:30] <dev777> isn't that possible?
[17:30] <usr13> dev777: su - user ./application
[17:30] <Pici> Danny_Joris_: Well, that looks like something that you've downlaoded, its possible that there were other files in there.
[17:30] <usr13> dev777: su -c user ./application
[17:30] <usr13> sorry
[17:30] <Danny_Joris_> Pici: I'm not sure if it did only remove files from the current path
[17:30] <usr13> dev777: man su
[17:31] <Sidewinder1> BluesKaj, Just wanted to say a quick HI,. :-)
[17:31] <Pici> Danny_Joris_: rm -r shouldn't go up the directory structure.
[17:31] <usr13> dev777: su -c user ./application  Was a typo.  I meant:  su -c user ./application  #Where user is actual user name.
[17:31] <Danny_Joris_> rm: descend into write-protected directory `LOGPATH'? y
[17:31] <Danny_Joris_> rm: remove write-protected regular file `LOGPATH/fedoragsearch.log'? ^C
[17:31] <dev777> usr13, thanks a lot
[17:32] <BluesKaj> hey Sidewinder1  :)
[17:32] <Danny_Joris_> Pici: I did rm -r * though
[17:32] <usr13> dev777: Actually that is not right.
[17:32] <Sidewinder1> BluesKaj, ;)
[17:32] <Pici> Danny_Joris_: I mean it shouldnt go deleting other things in desktop/websites/  if you said rm -r desktop/websites/example
[17:33] <usr13> dev777:  su -c   is to run command as root  the next argument is for the app
[17:33] <Danny_Joris_> Pici: I didn't specify a path. Just *
[17:33] <Danny_Joris_> star
[17:33] <Danny_Joris_> not 'just' i guess
[17:33] <usr13> dev777: If you can tell us specifically what you are trying to do, we could give you specific advise.
[17:33] <Danny_Joris_> for completeness:
[17:33] <Danny_Joris_> quickstart@qs091:~/Desktop/websites/bamboo$ rm -r *
[17:33] <Danny_Joris_> rm: descend into write-protected directory `LOGPATH'? y
[17:33] <dev777> another question, how do i set my default login session?
[17:33] <Danny_Joris_> rm: remove write-protected regular file `LOGPATH/fedoragsearch.log'? ^C
[17:33] <Pici> Danny_Joris_: My example was bad. if you were inside desktop/websites/example and you ran rm -r *, it will not go to desktop/ and start deleting things, it will only decend into directories already there.
[17:34] <usr13> dev777: What about it do you want to set?
[17:34] <Pici> Danny_Joris_: Does that make sense?
[17:34] <Danny_Joris_> Pici: ah. I see now that there is a LOGPATH directory
[17:34] <Danny_Joris_> Pici: thanks
[17:34] <Danny_Joris_> Pici: that's a relief :)
[17:34] <maalac> need help here. why can't i access windows share? i have internet and connected via ethernet inside HP network
[17:34] <Pici> Danny_Joris_: np
[17:35] <Danny_Joris_> Pici: i didn't ut it htere
[17:35] <damidalla> I feel like a n00b... now I entered the grub menu, but I cannot edit the line... "e" key doesn't work... nor "c"
[17:35] <BASHn00b> test
[17:35] <Abhijit> damidalla, oepn it with gedit not with vi
[17:35] <silverarrow> why is Ubuntu so sloppy with VLC?
[17:36] <damidalla> Abhijit, I am at boot time
[17:36] <dev777> usr13, when i start the x server, i want to login to a specific window manager, say KDE
[17:36] <usr13> dev777: If you want to run an application as user, and you are root, I think you'll have to su to user and then run it.  i.e.  su - user   and then run the application.
[17:36] <damidalla> I cannot access my system
[17:36] <theadmin> dev777: Use the proper command, e.g. "startxfce4", "startkde" and such
[17:36] <loculinux> a
[17:36] <usr13> dev777: Those options are on the login screen.  Set it before you login.
[17:37] <maalac> need help here. why can't i access windows share? i have internet and connected via ethernet inside HP network
[17:37] <miktor> I have broken my setup with a second monitor, and now the display of the second monitor flickers and doesn't work whenever i plug it in. Any way to fix this, or reset the config?
[17:37] <loculinux> ce faceti ma
[17:37] <BluesKaj> damidalla, what on grub are you trying to edit ..you can also edit from the command prompt with sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[17:37] <maalac> need help here. why can't i access windows share? i have internet and connected via ethernet inside HP network
[17:37] <usr13> dev777: Unless, as theadmin points out, you use startked or startx or startxfce4  etc.
[17:37] <khrm> silverarrow use smplayer or cmdline mplayer.
[17:37] <theadmin> !repeat | maalac
[17:38] <user> Is BleachBit safe to use?
[17:38] <Cert> Hello; got an issue with a gconf sanity check on a fresh install of ubuntu 11.04 x64.
[17:38] <theadmin> user: Yes.
[17:38] <usr13> dev777: But if you want to do it via GUI interface, just look there on the login screen and you will see options for different desktops
[17:38] <shbk> hello, does anybody here have experience with writing of  modules for kernel?
[17:38] <silverarrow> khrm, are they a real replacement for vlc?
[17:38] <theadmin> shbk: You might be better off checking #ubuntu-devel
[17:38] <khrm> Yes. Smplayer is.
[17:39] <BASHn00b> kernel can get pretty deep
[17:39] <BluesKaj> silverarrow, what's the problem with VLC ?
[17:39] <usr13> silverarrow: There are other video players:  mplayer xine totem etc.
[17:39] <Cert> Does anyone have any ideas why gconf sanity check would "bug out" other than permission issues?
[17:39] <khrm> Smplayer too use ffmpeg
[17:39] <dev777> usr13, yes, that is ok. but i want to login to CLI first then want to start display server with my desired desktop environment.
[17:40] <theadmin> dev777: Well, for KDE, use the "startkde" command. For XFCE, it's "startxfce4"
[17:40] <theadmin> dev777: I'm not sure what it is for gnome
[17:40] <loculinux> vreºun roman pe aici?
[17:40] <dev777> theadmin, thanks. so, every WM has its own command?
[17:40] <theadmin> dev777: For E17 it's start-e if I recall right
[17:40] <BASHn00b> Cert, whats it doing exactly any errors? freezing up?
[17:40] <user> theadmin: I'm going to use BleachBit....If it delete my files I'll need your home address LOL
[17:40] <theadmin> dev777: Basically so
[17:40] <usr13> dev777: Then do as theadmin said
[17:40] <dev777> theadmin, anything for awesome?
[17:41] <theadmin> dev777: Oh, that won't work, awesome is not a de, it's just a wm
[17:41] <dev777> oh right
[17:41] <theadmin> dev777: Run "xinit", and from the terminal which appears, already run "awesome"
[17:41] <Cert> BASHn00b: On a fresh install I am prompted with an error "there is a problem with the configuration server [filepath] exited with status 256"
[17:41] <AnonMacPro> hay, what do you guys have to say about Steve Jobs?
[17:41] <usr13> dev777: startlxde startubuntu startx  etc.
[17:41] <theadmin> user: It only touches temporary files.
[17:41] <Pici> !ot | AnonMacPro
[17:42] <Cyrax5> Desura seems to be a steam like store where which you can buy and download games. It's also going to be for Linux distro's. My question is. In some of the screenshots it shows games like 'crysis' which aren't available for linux. Will Desura using wine to play these games?
[17:42] <usr13> dev777: But you would first need to dissable the login-manager
[17:42] <silverarrow> usr13, BluesKaj, I have totem, need vlc for youtube and some downloads.  VLC doesn't work any more, only audio, no picture.
[17:42] <Cyrax5> AnonMacPro: One down. One more to go.
[17:43] <dev777> usr13, how do i do that?
[17:43] <Cert> BASHn00b: When click ok to get passed the error, there is an install error on the login screen stating "the config defaults for gnome power management..."
[17:43] <Pici> Cyrax5: Please ask Desura that, its not an Ubuntu question.
[17:43] <theadmin> Cyrax5: Most likely they just won't be available (judging from the Steam+Mac experience)
[17:43] <pritoj> hello
[17:43] <Cert> BASHn00b: When I ignore it an login in anyway, I find myself at the first error, and go back to the login screen
[17:43] <BASHn00b> I'm going to assume from your previous statement you have checked the perms and are SU
[17:44] <BluesKaj>  silverarrow , sudo apt-get install --reinstall vlc
[17:44] <usr13> dev777: Example: If you are using gdm, you would do   sudo chmod -x  /dev/init.d/gdm
[17:44] <BASHn00b> if it's causing things to default its some shit in the etc/gconf  xml file
[17:44] <CyL> Hi, there is a trange glitch with my ubuntu where sometimes it won't load the ubuntu gnome theme, or it loads it and than fallback to the default gnome theme after startup has been done. It happens every time, but I cannot track it down to something I might be doing that is triggering this
[17:44] <ikonia-remote> BASHn00b: control the language please.
[17:44] <h00k> !language | BASHn00b
[17:44] <BASHn00b> wow, srry
[17:44] <BASHn00b> O_o
[17:45] <RyanP> I'm trying to run the OpenOffice document converter wizard under Ubuntu 10.04 and I'm getting the message 'Sorry, Filesystem Problem', and the script debugger starts. This worked fine yesterday. Any idea what causes this? I have thousands of documents to convert, so it would be really nice to have this working.
[17:45] <theadmin> usr13: A more "universal" approach: sudo chmod -x /etc/init/*dm
[17:45] <codename09> hey guys how to mount extended partition ?
[17:45] <Gentoo64> yes
[17:45] <dev777> usr13, ok
[17:45] <Cert> BASHn00b: Im new to linux, but i made sure perms are 777 for /tmp and /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.*
[17:46] <usr13> dev777: As theadmin points out "A more "universal" approach: sudo chmod -x /etc/init/*dm"
[17:46] <codename09> i dont know i might ruined my hardisk and there were important data that i need critically
[17:46] <theadmin> usr13: Err, rather, *dm.conf
[17:46] <theadmin> usr13: Actually... That ain't gonna work
[17:46] <BASHn00b> make sure the whole folder tree is 755 or 777
[17:46] <pduan> hi i have a problem, i'm dualbooting ubuntu 11.04 with windows 7 on a thinkpad t420. the problem i'm running into is that everytime i reboot, ubuntu does not remember several settings that I've put down. For example, I'll set .html files to open up in text editor but upon restart, they open up in chrome again. another example is i'll check the box to let me login without password but it's reset the next time i login.
[17:46] <Escherial> does anyone else happen to find window management in unity somewhat a chore?
[17:46] <BASHn00b> cert make sure the whole folder tree is 755 or 777
[17:46] <cheche> codename09: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[17:46] <theadmin> dev777: sudo mv /etc/init/your-login-manager.conf /etc/init/your-login-manager.DISABLED
[17:46] <Gentoo64> Escherial, everyone hates it
[17:46] <usr13> dev777: Never mind...  theadmin is crawfishing  :)
[17:47] <theadmin> usr13: I'm just more used to SystemD than Upstart
[17:47] <BASHn00b> if you have one file that is not 777 or 755 i.e. ect can be the proper perm, but gconf.xml can not
[17:47] <Escherial> there are a lot of things i like about unity (increased vertical space with the unified menu bar, the expose-type view, etc.), but many things that i don't
[17:47] <Escherial> Gentoo64: ah, heh, nice to know that i'm not just lazy/crazy
[17:47] <Cert> BASHn00b: Ill try that now, 1 sec
[17:47] <Gentoo64> Escherial, you are crazy
[17:47] <boern> how can i go into the german chat?
[17:47] <h00k> boern: /join #ubuntu-de
[17:47] <Escherial> Gentoo64: yeah, i guess unity being difficult and me being crazy aren't mutually exclusive, heh...
[17:48] <theadmin> boern: Schreiben sie "/join #ubuntu-de" ein.
[17:48] <Escherial> it's good to know either way
[17:48] <BASHn00b> cert, running sudo chmod 755 /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.* should do it
[17:48] <boern> thx
[17:48] <dev777> theadmin, usr13 , but if gnome and kde are DEs and awesome is WM, then why they all are in the list of "session" during login?
[17:48] <Gentoo64> Escherial, maybe try the classic mode
[17:48] <theadmin> dev777: I can't be sure of that.
[17:48] <Gentoo64> dev777, de wm same thing basically
[17:48] <BASHn00b> I never recommend 777
[17:48] <silverarrow> vlc used to be trouble free in Ubuntu, for years
[17:48] <Escherial> yeah, standard gnome would be easier to handle, but i do like some of the things they've introduced in unity...it'd be nice if they could find some way to improve it
[17:48] <theadmin> dev777: I just know that, for instance, Openbox has no way to start without X running already
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> cert: http://paste.ubuntu.com/674680/
[17:49] <theadmin> Escherial: Classic mode isn't even "standard gnome" anymore, since that'd be gnome3
[17:49] <Gentoo64> silverarrow, have you tried vlc --reset-config
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> silverarrow: I wouldn't say that personally
[17:50] <dev777> usr13, theadmin, so the question comes to: how do i open a wm from command line?
[17:50] <BluesKaj> silverarrow, VLC here runs like a charm and I'm on Oneiric alpha 3
[17:50] <BASHn00b> so 420irc is not working
[17:50] <theadmin> dev777: wmname &disown
[17:50] <theadmin> dev777: But, that assumes you have X running (did "xinit")
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> silverarrow: make sure you have 1.1.11
[17:50] <dev777> what is &disown?
[17:50] <Gentoo64> dev777, what are you trying to run?
[17:50] <theadmin> dev777: Detaches it from the terminal (so if the terminal closes the app doesn't exit)
[17:51] <dev777> Gentoo64, awesome
[17:51] <silverarrow> gentoo64, with no change
[17:51] <Gentoo64> silverarrow, no idea
[17:51] <BluesKaj> silverarrow, updated / upgraded / dist-upgraded ?
[17:52] <damidalla> uhffff, problems with my little brother, sorry :(
[17:52] <tetsuo--> so my computer no longer boots, wat can i do now
[17:52] <dev777> theadmin, won't & only do that?
[17:52] <silverarrow> actionparsnip VLC media player 1.2.0-git Twoflower
[17:52] <Gentoo64> tetsuo--, where does it get up to?
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> silverfarrow: then it's not supported here
[17:52] <damidalla> so, now I am trying to boot my system, I have to add "option:nomodeset" at boot, but when I press "e" in the grub window it does not do anything...
[17:53] <theadmin> dev777: I'm not sure what's the difference between & and &disown tbh
[17:53] <tetsuo--> usb 1-8 new high speed usb devce
[17:53] <tetsuo--> gentoo64 ^^^
[17:53] <silverarrow> actionparsnip, I actually upgraded because of this trouble, but it didn't work
[17:53] <Gentoo64> then what? kernel panic?
[17:54] <tetsuo--> it just stays there
[17:54] <BluesKaj> silverarrow, git isn'r always nthe best choice for multimedia appsm despite what bleeding edgers claim
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> silverarrow: we can only support the apps in the official repos here
[17:54] <Gentoo64> silverarrow, will mplayer do what you want it to? i always found vlc no good as well
[17:54] <silverarrow> ActoinParsnip, maybe I shall go back to the original then
[17:55] <dev777> theadmin, usr13 , is it possible to run two different DEs at the same time, maybe in different ttys or something? coz i have to logoff to check what theadmin suggested.
[17:55] <Gentoo64> dev777, not in different ttys
[17:55] <theadmin> dev777: Not that I know
[17:55] <Gentoo64> itll say x is already running
[17:55] <silverarrow> gentoo64, mplayer handles everything except downlaoded youtube videos
[17:55] <theadmin> I gotta reboot
[17:55] <Gentoo64> silverarrow, i use mplayer2 not sure if it works on that
[17:56] <Gentoo64> silverarrow, but im sure it would..
[17:56] <BluesKaj> Gentoo64, VLC works well when setup properly . it takes alittle attention but the rewards are significant
[17:56] <Gentoo64> nah i hate it
[17:56]  * dev777 will come back
[17:56] <tetsuo--> gentoo64 how do i make it show what its hanging on?
[17:57] <Gentoo64> tetsuo--, what does it do? hang or panic?
[17:57] <tetsuo--> gentoo64 flashing _
[17:57] <Gentoo64> what did you do before this hapened?
[17:57] <Gentoo64> g2g
[17:57] <tetsuo--> failed upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04
[17:58] <usr13> silverarrow: mplayer plays downloaded youtube videos too.
[17:58] <usr13> tetsuo--: Check your internet connection / try again.
[17:58] <tetsuo--> wifi
[17:59] <tetsuo--> usr13 the network is fine
[17:59] <usr13> tetsuo--: What seems to be the problem?
[18:00] <usr13> tetsuo--: sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:00] <tetsuo--> since 10.10 upgrade to 11.04 failed and failed to revert the computer won't boot past detecting the usb ports
[18:01] <usr13> tetsuo--: Probably need to just do fresh install from 11.04 CD
[18:01] <silverarrow> usr13, it doesn't here ? weird
[18:01] <usr13> tetsuo--: If you backed up the /home dir, it should be easy.
[18:02] <tetsuo--> so without he cd I'm lost?
[18:02] <usr13> silverarrow: You must be missing codecs
[18:03] <silverarrow> usr13, and I though I had them all
[18:03] <usr13> !codecs | silverarrow
[18:03] <silverarrow> obviously not
[18:03] <mbrigdan> Ubuntu suddenly seems to be ignoring module blacklists. update-initramfs is adding blacklisted modules, and other blacklisted modules (eg: pcspkr) are being loaded. Anyone know what could be causing this?
[18:04] <usr13> silverarrow: Did you install mplayer from synaptic ?
[18:04] <jpmh> I have a system with multiple accounts one of them does not show the nm-applet - as far as I know I set it up exactly the same way - how do I get that applet to show on the account that does not have it
[18:06] <Guest98191> hi every1
[18:06] <silverarrow> usr13, I have  mplayer for Unix-like systems, in lubuntu, and all the restricted packages
[18:07] <dev777> hi
[18:07] <Guest98191> im facing a problem, cant video chat on skype
[18:08] <Guest98191> webcam doesnt get detected on skype.. can some1 help
[18:08] <th0r> Guest98191: does it work with cheese?
[18:08] <Guest98191> yes it does
[18:08] <usr13> silverarrow: apt-get install --reinstall mplayer
[18:09] <th0r> Guest98191: see if this script helps....http://pastebin.com/4xjSgcLL
 im trying ur link
[18:09] <maalac> question: what type of LDAP shall i use on ubuntu4hp?
[18:09] <japan> hi i have 512 ram ddr1 2,6ghz cpu and my ubuntu runs so slow, can i download some earlier version, will that be faster? ?
[18:10] <japan> hi i have 512 ram ddr1 2,6ghz cpu and my ubuntu runs so slow, can i download some earlier version, will that be faster? ?
[18:10] <bindi> japan: please don't repeat
[18:10] <bindi> !lubuntu | japan
[18:10] <japan> sorry
[18:10] <bindi> "light ubuntu"
[18:10] <japan> but on lxde i dont have features what i need
[18:10] <bittin_> Lxdebuntu
[18:11] <th0r> japan: well, you can have pretty, or you can have fast.....take your pick
[18:11] <japan> i asked something
[18:11] <japan> will be faster to download some earlier version ?
[18:11] <japan> i asked that, nobody answer me
[18:12] <th0r> japan: earlier versions are no longer supported. But the short answer is probably not, if you stick with gnome you will have to pay the price
[18:12] <apn> japan, xfce might have all the features you need.
 still not working :(
[18:12] <th0r> Guest98191: well, worth a shot. that fixed it for me so I figured I would try
[18:12] <japan> ok i will try xfce
[18:12] <japan> tnx
 thanks... any other way?
[18:14] <th0r> Guest98191: I saw other solutions when I was searching the web, but didn't pay much attention to them once they failed for me
 ok.. will google.. thnx :)
[18:15] <ubuntu_> Grüse an alle machts gut biss dann
[18:15] <damidalla> ok, now I solved the problem with the "out of range" right after the boot... but it still shows up as "out of range" as gdm shows up... but at least the terminals work, with nomodeset
[18:15] <tynsi> testing, does this message go through?
[18:15] <damidalla> I think it's an edid problem
[18:16] <th0r> tynsi: no
[18:16] <damidalla> yes, tynsi
[18:16] <tynsi> okay thank you
[18:16] <damidalla> maybe, tynsi
[18:16] <tynsi> haha
[18:16] <tynsi> is there a way to outright delete options from the GNU grub loader on a dual boot configuration?
[18:17] <tynsi> i have an old failed corrupted ubuntu install that's still coming up
[18:17] <tynsi> also i want to move windows XP to the top of the list
[18:17] <silverarrow> usr13, reinstall completed, yet it doesn't play. VLC will play the video but audio only, no picture
[18:18] <cheche> tynsi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 maybe this helps
[18:19] <tynsi> looking now, google did not turn that up before, thank you
[18:19] <agentgasmask> Hi all! :) I want to connect a USB scanner from across the room wih a 20 foot usb extention cable. Is the cable enough, or do I need a "booster" of some kind?
[18:20] <th0r> agentgasmask: you will find data transfer rates fall as the cable gets longer, and if I remember correctly the max for usb2.0 is 16', but not sure on that
[18:21] <th0r> agentgasmask: at a minimum, I would run the cable to a usb hub attached to the computer, and make sure the usb hub has its own power supply
[18:23] <cheche> any pointers for  software to repair corrupt jpg?
[18:24] <mrcreativity> why does ubuntu run hotter than windows
[18:25] <mrcreativity> the fan is always running with ubuntu...with temps of 72C, with windows the temp hovers around 58 and the fan runs only under load
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> mrcreativity: our systems acpi is catered for in windows but not so much in Linux, are there bugs reported?
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> *your
[18:26] <mrcreativity> bugs...not sure
[18:26] <mrcreativity> how would i know if there are bugs?
[18:26] <GatorAlli> What is the file system of the bios_grub partition in ubuntu 11.04?
[18:26] <chmac> Can anyone recommend a package from the repos to help browse / graph / visualise ~100k rows of data?
[18:27] <agentgasmask> th0r: Ah, thanks. Will it just run slow, or will it "drop" information?
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> chmac: gnumeric maybe
[18:29] <chmac> ActionParsnip: Great, I'm trying it now, thanks
[18:29] <prashant_123456> how to extract audio from mp4 file
[18:29] <GatorAlli> is the bios_grub  partition unformatted?
[18:31] <prashant_123456> how to extract audio from mp4 file
[18:31] <Danny_Joris_> is there an online unix manual that is not painful for the eyes?
[18:32] <Danny_Joris_> like this for git: well explained , nice examples, not painful for the eyes : http://gitimmersion.com/
[18:32] <mrcreativity> any advice on the fan issue
[18:32] <Danny_Joris_> or like this for jquery: http://api.jquery.com/visual/
[18:33] <Danny_Joris_> anything like that for unix?
[18:34] <oCean> Danny_Joris_: I don't see how that is an #ubuntu issue?
[18:34] <Danny_Joris_> oCean: true that.
[18:34] <oCean> Danny_Joris_: well, you're in #ubuntu, so please stay on topic. Try #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[18:35] <Danny_Joris_> ok
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> !manual | danny_joris_
[18:35] <L1T> Whats the easiest way to add a program to run on boot :D
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> !boot
[18:36] <alex--> How can I add webmail notifications to ubuntu?
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> alex--: for which provider?
[18:36] <japan> do anybody wants brazzers account for free ?
[18:37] <alex--> ActionParsnip: my own
[18:37] <L1T> japan: lol me
[18:37] <BlueEagle> !ot | japan
[18:37] <alex--> ActionParsnip: I dont want to receive email, only the notification so I can check out my webmail client
[18:38] <mgj> lol japan wtf? why would you even.... in an ubuntu channel....
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> alex--: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/popper-email-notifier.html
[18:39] <prashant_123456> how to extract audio from mp4 file ???????
[18:40] <L1T> Whats the easiest way to add a program to run on boot
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: ffmpeg -i source_video.mp4 -vn -ar 44100 -ac 2 -ab 192 -f mp3 sound.mp3
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> lit: does it need to run after login, or before the login screen shows? which account does it need to run as?
[18:41] <alex--> Thx ActionParsnip
[18:41] <alex--> ActionParsnip: something else about it: how does it behaves with multiple pc's attached to 1 account?
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> alex--: no worries, all I did was websearch
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> alex--: not sure, it simply checks the number of mails and shows whom they are from
[18:43] <L1T> ActionParsnip: It can run after I logon. I want to to run on root. Also easiest way from the command line i ment.
[18:43] <cutiyar> how to do with this ? http://pastebin.com/7GNSZiW9 while updating terminla
[18:43] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, encoder not found any solution ??
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> prasant_123456: install libmp3lame0
[18:44] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, it says already installed
[18:45] <ergZay> how do i create a fifo out of an existing file? I'm downloading a file and i want to pull pieces off the file to pipe it somewhere else and I want them to be deleted as I go?
[18:45] <ergZay> removing the "?" on the end
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> prasant123456: not sure then, there will be the encoder on the repos you need, just need to work out which one, if you install handbrake it may install it too, why not have a sniff around on the web to see what is needed
[18:46] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, ok
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> lit: you can add the command to the sudoers file, it can run without password and you can add it to your normal startup commands prefixed with gksudo
[18:47] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, not finding the solution
[18:47] <lectrick> Is there a launchd for linux, or did everyone just go to Upstart?
[18:48] <alex____> aieu
[18:49] <BlueEagle> lectrick: wikipedia: The Ubuntu Linux distribution considered using launchd in 2006. However, launchd was rejected as an option because it was released under the Apple Public Source License
[18:49] <cutiyar> how to do with this ? http://pastebin.com/7GNSZiW9 while updating terminla
[18:49] <ForSpareParts> Hey, guys. I've got a black screen problem -- read the wiki page and i'm still a bit lost...
[18:49] <lectrick> BlueEagle: The licensing was changed to Apache 2.0 if you read on though, that very year
[18:50] <lectrick> Maybe it was too little too late?
[18:50] <ForSpareParts> Happened after I unplugged the dvi cable while running -- stupid, I guess, but I assumed it Ubuntu would deal with it as well as windows does...
[18:50] <BlueEagle> lectrick: Well, if it hailed from Apple to begin with I really don't care. I don't eat apples.
[18:51] <krewak> hello
[18:51] <lectrick> Well, Apple is probably trying to clutch its work too tightly to its chest still in general. If you haven't adopted the "sure, take my ass however you want" philosophy of open source, it can be a hurdle, especially for a corporation
[18:51] <krewak> how to check pc temperature on natty 11.04
[18:51] <L1T> ActionParsnip: I don't understand what you said. Cant I just add my bashscript to some file so it starts on startup?
[18:52] <ForSpareParts> Can anybody help, please? I'm not sure what to do, and I don't want to do something drastic (i.e. reinstall Ubuntu) if I don't have to...
[18:52] <BlueEagle> lectrick: This should probably move to !ot
[18:52] <lectrick> BlueEagle: I eat apples but appreciate open source. Regarding that, I suppose.
[18:52] <mbrigdan> Ubuntu suddenly seems to be ignoring module blacklists. update-initramfs is adding blacklisted modules, and other blacklisted modules (eg: pcspkr) are being loaded. Anyone know what could be causing this?
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> lit: you can reference it in your startup apps, prefixed with gksudo, you will be asked for password each boot. If that's ok then go for it
[18:54] <zabomber_> hey guys. my icons for my current theme worked before i install dockbarx and now they dont. i have tried to remove dockbarx but my icon pack is still not working. i have tried rebooting. any idea?
[18:54] <lectrick> What's the best package manager these days?
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> lectrick: there is no single best anything
[18:54] <coz_> lectrick,  I prefer synatpic
[18:54] <coz_> synaptic
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> lectrick: apt-fast is what I use
[18:55] <xevil> lectrick: I like aptitude...
[18:55] <lectrick> do you have to marry one? (i.e., do they collide?)
[18:55] <lectrick> mutual exclusivity?
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> lectrick: no, you can switch as you please
[18:55] <coz_> lectrick,  only one package manager can run at any given time
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> lecktrick: only one can be accessing the packages at one time
[18:55] <lectrick> so synaptic, aptitude and apt-fast.
[18:55] <krewak> how to check pc temperature on natty 11.04
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> lecktrick: apt-get and software-centre also exist
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> !sensors | krewak
[18:56] <krewak> tq ubottu
[18:57] <zabomber_> hey guys. my icons for my current theme worked before i install dockbarx and now they dont. i have tried to remove  dockbarx but my icon pack is still not working. i have tried rebooting. any idea?
[18:57] <ForSpareParts> Hey, guys. Can anybody help with a black screen problem on Natty?
[18:58] <Slart_> I'm trying to make a small script which scans a number of pages from a scanner and creates a pdf and I'm running into all kinds of problems just because some utilities only support tiff's with a certain compression mode and then the tiff to pdf converter can't use the same compression the tiff converter can use
[18:58] <coz_> zabomber_,  which icon theme is not working?
[18:58] <zabomber_> coz_ i've tried a few... currently its the Awoken one...
[18:58] <Slart_> Are there any good tif to pdf creation tools out there? tiff2pdf seems a bit.. dated
[18:58] <coz_> zabomber_,   I am trying to think why dockbarx would even interfer with an icon theme
[18:59] <lectrick> tiff is not exactly a new format tho
[18:59] <wildc4rd> evenin all!
[18:59] <coz_> zabomber_,  out of curiosity  ,, did you restart x  or reboot  ?
[18:59] <zabomber_> coz_, me too.. my theme works fine... just the icons don't work
[18:59] <Slart_> shesh.. dual irssi's running.. sorry
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> slart_: does it work though?
[18:59] <Slart> ActionParsnip: yes, it works.. but the results are bigger than I want
[19:00] <coz_> zabomber_,  did you install anything else  or were there updates  at the same time?
[19:00] <zabomber_> coz_, reboot
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> slart: if you put the file in a file in libreoffice, then export to PDF, is it better?
[19:00] <zabomber_> coz_ quite a few updates.... apt-get update and apt-get upgrade... :(
[19:00] <Slart> ActionParsnip: as a comparison.. gscan2pdf produces a pdf which is ~1 Mb.. my script creates a pdf which is 15 Mb
[19:00] <codename09> I m using foremost Data recovery tool .. but i need to make an image of the partition, but i m not able to mount it :( so is there anyway to do that ?
[19:01] <ergZay> how do i create a fifo out of an existing file? I'm downloading a file and i want to pull pieces off the file to pipe it somewhere else and I want them to be deleted as I go.
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> codename09: use dd_rescue to make an image
[19:01] <Slart> ActionParsnip: ngh.. I haven't really tried
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> slart: not sleek, but could work
[19:01] <codename09> thanks !
[19:01] <coz_> zabomber_,  I have doubts that it was dockbarx,, I have used that with no difficulties,,  try   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    to see if newer versions of anything n eed to be  upgraded
[19:01] <Bibib0y> coucou :hap:
[19:01] <Slart> ActionParsnip: the whole idea is to have a small, automated script.. I'd rather not involve libreoffice in that
[19:02] <zabomber_> coz_, trying...
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> slart: I'll dig around, gimme a sec
[19:02] <Slart> ActionParsnip: I'm just surprised tiff2pdf doesn't handle pdf versions other than 1.0... no 1.4 with all the new compressions and stuff
[19:02] <zabomber_> nope
[19:02] <ForSpareParts> can anybody help with a black screen problem on Natty?
[19:02] <zabomber_> no updates.. :(
[19:03] <zabomber_> coz_ no updates :9
[19:03] <Slart> ActionParsnip: I'm thinking of doing it in python.. I think there are some decent pdf creation routines in there
[19:03] <KSHawkEye> Does anyone know of a way to play chess on Ubuntu against someone on a Windows machine?
[19:03] <dantix> hi all, I've installed neatx on my box and worked fine untill synaptics required me to reboot. After that neatx-server did not start and I not know what is the command tio start it. Search at /etc/init.d with no luck. Any ideas?
[19:03] <coz_> zabomber_,  mm,,  t his is odd  for s ure,,  as I said I cant see dockbarx having any connection with the icon theme... are you using dockbarx  as an actual dock or just in the upper panel?
[19:04] <ergZay> how do i create a fifo out of an existing file? I'm downloading a file and i want to pull pieces off the file to pipe it somewhere else and I want them to be deleted as I go.
[19:04] <Slart> KSHawkEye: there are a couple of online-chess-apps in the repository.. can't say which ones have a windows client though
[19:04] <Slart> !info xboard | KSHawkEye
[19:05] <PDunny> !info chroot
[19:05] <KSHawkEye> Slart: Isnt that only for linux based systems?
[19:05] <Slart> KSHawkEye: they say they have a windows client... http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/xboard/
[19:05] <Combatjuan> http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/devel/linux-headers-2.6.35-30-server lists "linux-headers-2.6.25-30" as a dependency but says it is unavailable.  But I can't install the server package without it.  So why is it unavailable?
[19:07] <Slart> KSHawkEye: it seems it can connect to larger online communities as well.. I assume those use some kind of standardized protocol
[19:08] <KSHawkEye> Slart: Interesting... WinBoard seems to be the Windows version of it. I wonder if xboard and winboard can connect over network
[19:08] <KSHawkEye> Slart: Anyway, I'll have to do some reading and testing but thanks for the help
[19:09] <Slart> KSHawkEye: xboard (and eboard) connects to http://www.freechess.org/ .. they support a lot of different clients.. for all kinds of operating systems
[19:09] <Slart> KSHawkEye: they have a nice download page where you can choose your client
[19:09] <Slart> KSHawkEye: you're welcome
[19:09] <KSHawkEye> Slart: Awesome, thanks for that site too
[19:10] <daedra> hello, I would like to set my iPod up for use with gtkpod. How do you do this?
[19:10] <daedra> I have an iPod shuffle 2nd generation
[19:10] <GlenK> hi there.  anyone here familiar with distrowatch?  if so can you pm me (just trying to stay on topic in channel is all)?
[19:10] <daedra> and it /used/ to work with gtkpod. However, now it only charges by USB and does not show up in /dev
[19:12] <bastii> hi
[19:12] <Combatjuan> Is the linux-headers some magic package that you /have to/ create from source?
[19:12] <Slart> Combatjuan: it's just a dummy package that depends on the latest linux-headers-blablabla package
[19:13] <Slart> Combatjuan: not sure what you mean by "have to create from source" though
[19:13] <Slart> !info linux-headers
[19:14] <L1T> how do I ignore channel joins and leaves in irssi?
[19:14] <iceroot_> L1T: /help ignore
[19:14] <iceroot_> L1T: there is an example for that
[19:14] <bastii> somehow ubuntu is messing with grub2... the szenario is, that on boot grub starts into its menu and does not display any time, so that a button ahs to be pressed to boot an OS.. when i change he config file, nothing changes, after update-grub... (changing the resolution, etc des change).. when i now purge all related grub packets and reinstall them, i can reboot and everything is finde... (grub is not displayed) .. but when i reboot, after ubuntu did boot up, the 
[19:15] <Slart> !info linux-headers-generic
[19:15] <Combatjuan> Slart: I was just hypothesizing.  I downloaded linux-headers-2.6.35-30-server_2.6.35-30.56~lucid1_amd64.deb (from linked page) and when I install it (dpkg -i), it says "linux-headers-blahblahblah depends on linux-headers-2.6.35-30 howere (the aformentioned) is not installed"
[19:15] <Slart> sorry.. forgot it has to have some kind of architecture to it
[19:15] <mbrigdan> Hey, does modprobe -l list every module, or just every active module?
[19:15] <ubuntuguy> WHy is my ubuntu acting up? I can't double click to open folders and can't switch songs without right clicking and pressing play in banshee
[19:16] <Slart> Combatjuan: hmm.. where did you download the deb from? packages.ubuntu.org? somewhere else?
[19:16] <L1T> iceroot: thanks
[19:16] <crass> anyone know how to contact the guys who do the builds for ubuntu-virt ppa? (maybe Serge Hallyn?)
[19:16] <Slart> Combatjuan: do you have the exact error message? can you pastebin it?
[19:16] <Combatjuan> Slart: Yeah, packages.ubuntu.org.  The link for the specific package page is in a post above.
[19:16] <Renegade15> good evening
[19:17] <Slart> crass: isn't there an email-address in the package info page at packages.ubuntu.org?
[19:17] <rumpe1> mbrigdan, every
[19:17] <Renegade15> for some godforsaken reason, package php5 is marked for removal, is there any way I can unmark it?
[19:17] <VCoolio> mbrigdan: lsmod for active modules
[19:18] <Combatjuan> Slart: http://paste.ubuntu.com/674744/
[19:18] <crass> Slart: hmm, good point, was hoping someone would be on irc, but I'll look intot hat
[19:19] <Combatjuan> ubuntuguy: Maybe a meta-key is held down?  (Left or right ctrl/alt/"windows")
[19:19] <ubuntuguy> I don't think that's the issue. I restarted my computer 3 times
[19:20] <Slart> Combatjuan: hmm.. have you tried downloading the package linux-headers-2.6.35-30 ? ie the same package you've already got but without the -server at the end? perhaps the headers are the same for -generic, -server or -virtual kernels and they all just point to the same base package?
[19:21] <Combatjuan> Slart: Good idea.  I'll give that a try.
[19:21] <Slart> !info linux-headers-2.6.38-11-server
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuguy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1631961
[19:22] <ubuntuguy> That's not my problem actionpar.snip
[19:22] <Combatjuan> Slart: Same error with the linux-headers-2.6.35-30-generic.  They both depend on "linux-headers-2.6.35-30'.  But that package doesn't exist.
[19:23] <tokam> Hi I have problems with pulseaudio
[19:23] <tokam> after using it a while my sound, sounds electronic & unnatural.
[19:23] <distant_voice> how can I start a program from the terminal and immediately have it back? I know there's a simple parameter for this
[19:23] <tokam> Only restart helps, but all devices ofcourse (and sadly) get disconnected
[19:23] <Slart> Combatjuan: hmm.. then I don't really know why it's doing this... all the different headers/image packages can be quite confusing at times
[19:24] <Slart> distant_voice: & at the end
[19:24] <distant_voice> thx Slart
[19:24] <Combatjuan> Slart: Indeed.  I've been trying to compile from source but if I do it the "new ubuntu way" then it creates packages that /also/ require that missing package.  If I do it the "old debian way", I can create kernel packages that install but don't boot!
[19:25] <Slart> Combatjuan: you're a braver man than I am.. I'm happy my computer works with all the punishment I put it through. =)
[19:26] <Combatjuan> Slart: Nah, it's not bravery.  I'm doing it because my computer /doesn't work/.  ~4 times a day at random with the present kernel, something happens with the clock and it freezes for 5 minutes.  Anyway, thanks for the attempt.  I appreciate your time.
[19:27] <Slart> Combatjuan: ouch.. is there a bug reported? that sounds like a nasty problem
[19:28] <Combatjuan> Slart: I haven't been able to find a bug.  But it's only a problem (apparently) in the early Jaunty kernels (2.6.28-10-~20?).  Jaunty isn't supported anymore.  It seems like it's somehow a problem with newer intel chips turbo boost and the way the system clock is handled in those 2008 era kernels.
[19:29] <Neo31> Hello, can somebody tell me please if I can upgrade from Ubuntu Server 8.04 to 12.04 or I have to upgrade to 10.04 first? thank you
[19:29] <Slart> Combatjuan: reinstall with a newer version isn't an option?
[19:29] <daedra> hello, I would like to set my iPod up for use with gtkpod. How do you do this?
[19:29] <daedra> I have a 2nd gen shuffle, and it /used/ to work with gtkpod. However, now it only charges by USB and does not show up in /dev
[19:31] <Combatjuan> Slart: Unfortunately, no.  Working on getting there, but as of now, there are many servers around the US that depend on legacy (Jaunty-era) python, and postgres bits.  Anyway, I suspect this patch -> http://git.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=8ff3e8e85fa6c312051134b3953e397feb639f51 perhaps would fix my problem.
[19:32] <Combatjuan> But I'm not smart enough to build a kernel that: 1.) compiles, 2.) boots 3.) has network support.  Sometimes I can get 1 and 2...  I don't know.  I'm flailing in the dark.
[19:32] <yubahaq> hey
[19:32] <Combatjuan> I can build a working kernel from the 2.6.28-10 source, but unforunately, that's older than the installed version.  It's a mess.
[19:32] <yubahaq> i have a problem with vice city game
[19:32] <Slart> Combatjuan: hmm.. I wish I at least knew where to send you.. have you tried the ubuntu forums?
[19:32] <yubahaq> i have installed wine
[19:33] <yubahaq> and try to start vice city
[19:33] <yubahaq> but the screen stay black
[19:33] <oCean> yubahaq: #winehq for application help with wine
[19:33] <Combatjuan> Slart: I haven't tried posting.  It might be worth signing up.  The thing is, Jaunty is unsupported now--and apparently for good reason.
[19:33] <yubahaq> i heard voices when i press up and down
[19:34] <yubahaq> but the sreen stay black
[19:34] <Slart> Combatjuan: well.. unsupported or not.. perhaps someone can at least give you some pointers when it comes to compiling a kernel
[19:34] <Combatjuan> True.
[19:35] <GlenK> so can someone briefly explain what unity is to me.  is it something like Fedora's gnome 3?
[19:36] <pc15> holas
[19:36] <pc15> safd
[19:36] <pc15> s
[19:36] <pc15> holas
[19:36] <coleix> Hey guys is there a way to install a windows printer driver with wine?
[19:37] <Slart> !unity | GlenK
[19:38] <Slart> GlenK: I'm not really sure what "shell for GNOME" means.. but I think it uses at least some parts of gnome
[19:38] <[THC]AcidRain> coleix, what version of linux do you have? and what year printer?
[19:38] <bsdfox> does huludesktop x64 segfault in libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.4
[19:39] <Combatjuan> GlenK: Yeah, basically a new UI created by Canonical (the Ubuntu folks) that builds on the technology used to build gnome (the gtk library).
[19:39] <bsdfox> for anyone else? 11.04
[19:39] <coleix> [THC]AcidRain: is a sharp AL-1655CS and i cant find the ubuntu drivers
[19:41] <BlueEagle> !segfault
[19:42] <Kingdong> it is possible to dump UFW ruleset in iptables format ?
[19:42] <vinnyp6056> Hey all
[19:43] <guntbert> Kingdong: sudo iptables -L    will do it
[19:43] <guntbert> hi vinnyp6056  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[19:43] <Kingdong> fantastic !
[19:43] <vinnyp6056> I'm getting the following error: Wind/U Error (193): X-Resource: DefaultGUIFontSpec (-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-14-*) does not fully specify a font set for this locale
[19:43] <vinnyp6056> and would like to install helvetica font
[19:44] <vinnyp6056> however I am uncertain where to get it and how to install it
[19:44] <BlueEagle> Kingdong: Doesn't UFW create iptables rules?
[19:44] <DasEi> !fonts | vinnyp6056
[19:44] <BlueEagle> Kingdong: Never mind. I see guntbert got you covered.
[19:44] <guntbert> BlueEagle: it does :)
[19:45] <biggnou> hi all
[19:45] <BlueEagle> guntbert: I was about to teach the man to fish instead of just handing it to him. ;)
[19:45] <Kingdong> good god ufw generate ugly ruleset
[19:45] <Kingdong> is there any good iptables template to build a ruleset from scratch
[19:47] <DasEi> Kingdong: are you on natty ?
[19:47] <BlueEagle> Kingdong: I use shorewall. Perhaps that would be more for your liking?
[19:47] <Kingdong> think so
[19:47] <Kingdong> i just want something a little bit more sophisticated than UFW
[19:47] <lwizardl> hello
[19:48] <Kingdong> need to have some allowed_host = [array] and stuff like that
[19:48] <DasEi> Kingdong: for lucid there is guarddog
[19:48] <lwizardl> is there a way to install a 32bit application on a 64bit os version of ubuntu ?
[19:48] <DasEi> Kingdong: besides iptables, there are also /etc/hosts.allow btw deny
[19:48] <Kingdong> guarddog is ... 2007 !
[19:49] <Kingdong> Yes but it need to be a little more sophisticated than a simple allow/deny ;)
[19:49] <Polah> Does anybody know if the Broadcom BCM94318MPG wireless adapter is compatible with 11.04?
[19:49] <Kingdong> services management etc etc
[19:49] <lwizardl> I have a deb that is designed for i386 arcitecture and refuses to install on my version of ubuntu
[19:49] <kyan> Hello. Both apt-get and aptitude will not let me install a package because there are unrelated broken dependencies on my system (they aren't really broken, it's intentional), so I can't install anything now.
[19:50] <kyan> lwizardl: have you tried dpkg --force-all?
[19:50] <DasEi> lwizardl: you can, but can cause you trouble , search the net for getlibs, own risk
[19:51] <DasEi> lwizardl: dpkg -S shows dependencies
[19:51] <vinnyp6056> Hi all where can I download the helvetica font
[19:51] <lwizardl> DasEi, & kyan  thanks
[19:52] <mgj> vinnyp6056, i think you need the MS font package..... think its called 'mstt-core-font' or something like that
[19:53] <kyan> vinnyp6056: sudo aptitude install msttcorefonts
[19:53] <vinnyp6056> I just installed it via the package manager
[19:53] <vinnyp6056> but it is not present
[19:53] <kyan> vinnyp6056: have you looked in /usr/share/fonts/truetype?
[19:53] <user_388> Can someone tell me why it takes 5min to copy 1GB to an external HDD?
[19:53] <delac> I'm doing some image trimming with imagemagick. Is there any way to re-include few pixels width of the original background to the trimmed image, to gain some "border"?
[19:54] <NonConformist> So I'm trying to install ubuntu using the frugal install method with version 11.04. As soon as it gets to "copying files" the installer shows an error saying it has crashed. If it helps at all I've also tried with 10.04 and it tells me ubiquity has crashed a few seconds after I press the install button.
[19:54] <vinnyp6056> yes
[19:54] <kyan> user_388: that doesn't seem abnormal to me. are you using usb?
[19:54] <vinnyp6056> I did a find -name "*hel*"
[19:54] <vinnyp6056> and the helvetica font is not installed
[19:55] <user_388> Yes, USB2.0
[19:55] <delac> user_388: well, if the 1GB is mostly small files of few kilos or so, then it is quite normal
[19:55] <Guest57556> hiii
[19:55] <kyan> vinnyp6056: what is the output of the command: ls /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts
[19:55] <Guest57556> any spanish here???'
[19:55] <guntbert> NonConformist: the most frequent explanation: the image you downloaded was corrupted, did you check?
[19:56] <Guest57556> JUA JUA TATA JUA!!!
[19:56] <BarkingFish> !es
[19:56] <vinnyp6056> kyan: its not there
[19:56] <Guest57556> gracias ubottu
[19:56] <user_388> Sometimes it takes longer...I mean in Windows transfer rate is about 10/per second. In Ubuntu it's 1 to 2 mb per second
[19:57] <jackoriper> hi, newly using sony vaio vpceh16en , installed ubuntu 10.10, there are no hardware volume buttons, how to  mute speakers and use head phones only
[19:57] <NonConformist> If that's the case I have HORRIBLE luck because as i said prviously.... I downloaded 11.04 and 10.04. How do I check to see if it's corrupt? Is there a hash file somewhere or do I need to download it again?
[19:57] <user_388> Could it be that my external is NTFS?
[19:57] <kyan> vinnyp6056: helvetica does not appear to be listed in the core fonts http://sourceforge.net/projects/corefonts/files/the%20fonts/final/
[19:58] <BarkingFish> jackoriper: Normally when you plug headphones in, the builtin speakers should cut off and sound divert to your headphones. Is that not happening for you?
[19:58] <vinnyp6056> oh
[19:58] <vinnyp6056> then how would I get it?
[19:59] <dv310p3r> I'm having a problem with my swap. I've noticed that when my swap starts getting used, it really slows down my entire system. I've got four GB of ram so I've got swapiness low. Also, when it starts getting slow, if I sudo swapoff -a, after it clears out the swap I'm ok. Any ideas?
[19:59] <jackoriper> BarkingFish: no im getting sound from spk and head phone, when i watch movies im unable to stop disturbing others, spk are sound out
[19:59] <dv310p3r> Sorry, I'm on ubuntu 10.04
[20:00] <user_388> Is it normal for Ubuntu to take 5 seconds to open "Home" folder
[20:00] <kyan> vinnyp6056: query
[20:00] <user_388> This is a new installation with all ubdates
[20:00] <resetnow_> user_388, no
[20:00] <beam> hello there. Since i upgrade ubuntu to the lastest version, ive been having problems with any video material. When i watch a movie, it freezes somewhere along the way. Any ideas?
[20:00] <resetnow_> isn't normal
[20:00] <NonConformist> Is there a hash file of some type to see if my ISO is corrupt or do i just need to download the ISO again?
[20:00] <osmosis> trying to install ubuntu on my samsung netbook, booting from USB, stops a ISOLINUX cli screen. Doesnt continue. Any suggestions on how I can get the install to proceed?
[20:01] <user_388> resetnow: How can I fix this? This is a new drive plus new installation
[20:01] <NonConformist> hash file*
[20:01] <Pici> !hashes | NonConformist
[20:01] <BarkingFish> jackoriper, Hm. I can't say what might be wrong then, may be worth checking the Ubuntu launchpad and see if there's any bugs associated with your machine.
[20:01] <BarkingFish> !launchpad
[20:01] <Combatjuan> NonConformist: It should have a hash listed on the page you downloaded it.  It's probably md5.  You should be able to run md5sum on the file you download (or whatever your OS's equivalent is).
[20:02] <resetnow_> user_338: how old is your computer? what filesystem?
[20:02] <kyan> vinnyp6056: did you get that?
[20:02] <jackoriper> BarkingFish: its same on sony vaio team , not put volumne button laptops
[20:02] <jackoriper> its shame
[20:02] <resetnow_> user_338: this may happen because of low RAM
[20:03] <vinnyp6056> kyan: I got it but is that for ubunty?
[20:03] <vinnyp6056> ubuntu?
[20:03] <Combatjuan> user_388: Is it whenever you open your home folder or only the first time?  Maybe it has to do some drive mounting or something?  Or perhaps you have lots of files it needs to preview there?
[20:03] <vinnyp6056> lol
[20:06] <osmosis> trying to install ubuntu on my samsung netbook, booting from USB, stops a ISOLINUX cli screen. Doesnt continue. Any suggestions on how I can get the install to proceed?
[20:06] <beam> Combatjuan:hello there. Since i upgraded ubuntu to the lastest version, ive been having problems with any video material. When i watch a movie, it freezes somewhere along the way. Any solutions?
[20:06] <kyan> How can I override the broken packages check by apt-get or aptitude?
[20:07] <Combatjuan> beam: I'm probably not the guy to ask.  What software are you using to watch?  Are you on oneiric or natty?
[20:08] <WillowMouse> hey can any of you guys help me out? I'm having some trouble with my video card drivers.
[20:08] <dv310p3r> Ubuntu 10.04. I'm having a problem with my swap. When my swap starts getting used, it really slows down my entire system. I've got 4 GB of ram so I've got my swapiness at 10. Also, when it starts getting slow, if I sudo swapoff -a, after it clears out the swap I'm ok. Any ideas?
[20:08] <philipp__> is "it puzzles me" a english phrase?
[20:09] <beam> Combatjuan:Im on natty. I usually used VLC. Ive never had such problems with the previous version. I am forced to shut down my computer manually because im not able to move the mouse.
[20:09] <Combatjuan> philipp__: Yes.
[20:10] <Combatjuan> WillowMouse: We'll try.  Can you be more specific?
[20:10] <devish> is it possible to use two wi-fi at same time from the laptop?
[20:10] <guntbert> philipp__: please be aware that this channel is for ubuntu support only
[20:10] <devish> i am usin ubuntu 11.4
[20:10] <devish> when i connect one other gets diconnected
[20:10] <philipp__> gunbert plz be aware ur mom is ugly -.-
[20:11] <terr_> I'll looking to buy an IBM netbook/notebook with a braodcom 802.11 chipset.  Does Ubuntu support it?  I believe its a model S10 whatever that means
[20:12] <Combatjuan> dv310p3r: You just means that whenever your computer happens to start using swap, (i.e. for cache rather than as active memory)?
[20:13] <devish> anyone
[20:13] <devish> ?
[20:13] <Combatjuan> dv310p3r: What I mean is, if when it gets slow, if you look at top, does it indicate that swap is used, free, or cached?  If any significant amount is being used, it will be slow.
[20:13] <BarkingFish> devish, Are they both internal wifi? I'm able to connect 2 different networks from my laptop with no problem, but I have one internal and one external (USB Stick) wifi
[20:14] <JoeA1> hi, I am allowed to deliver an ubuntu VM where my proprietary software is installed on to customers?
[20:14] <dv310p3r> Combatjuan, right, but my whole system gets really laggy. And it's not a significant amount at all, less than 200 or 300 mbs
[20:15] <devish> BarkingFish: both are wifi networks from two different routers
[20:15] <delac> is it possible to just get the "geometry" values of the trimmed image from Imagemagick?
[20:15] <Combatjuan> dv310p3r: So it's not like you're running out of system memory and it has to use your cache.  Is your swap driver a different physical drive that your other drives?
[20:15] <Combatjuan> dv310p3r: s/has to use your cache/has to use your swap
[20:15] <BarkingFish> devish, How many wifi adapters do you have in your laptop?
[20:15] <beam> BarkingFish:hello there. Since i upgraded ubuntu to the lastest version, ive been having problems with any video material. When i watch a movie, it freezes somewhere along the way. Any solutions? Im on natty. I usually used VLC. Ive never had such problems with the previous version. I am forced to shut down my computer manually because im not able to move the mouse.
[20:15] <devish> BarkingFish: i ahve access two both but can use 1 at a time
[20:16] <dv310p3r> Combatjuan, no, it's the same drive as I'm on a laptop. (Core i5, 4gb ram).
[20:16] <devish> BarkingFish: how to probe that
[20:16] <Pici> delac: You could use identify to get that.
[20:17] <helo> can anyone explain this to me: file /usr/arm-linux-gnueabi/lib/libc.so gives "/usr/arm-linux-gnueabi/lib/libc.so:                 ASCII C program text"
[20:17] <BarkingFish> devish, - I've no idea on that one, I normally use iwconfig to get the data on the wifi adapters.
[20:17] <BarkingFish> If they're both internal, it may be they're interfering with each other - they could be trying to operate on the same frequency
[20:17] <delac> Pici: ah, yes, of course.
[20:18] <Combatjuan> dv310p3r: No ideas jump out to me.  Have you tried running iostat while it is going slow?
[20:19] <roman__> hey
[20:19] <rekoil> does anyone know if there are plans to switch back to GNOME officially?
[20:20] <rekoil> just read that 11.10 will be a unity release as well
[20:20] <rekoil> for that matter, do you guys like unity?
[20:20] <lindomar> OLÁ, TUDO BEM.
[20:20] <Putr> are there any plans on getting this FREAKING loginblock  for reading removed from ubuntuforums?
[20:20] <devish> BarkingFish: if theere is some way to try and verify then it will be better
[20:21] <Loshki> helo: 'file' sometimes guesses wrong about the contents of files....
[20:22] <guntbert> Putr: there is #ubuntuforums  :)
[20:22] <Putr> nah
[20:23] <Putr> Is it just me... or does banshee not work with large music libraries
[20:23] <dv310p3r> Combatjuan, No, I had never heard of iostat, so i will now. thanks.
[20:23] <Moshanator> rekoil:no, unity is the personal baby of Mr. Shuttleworth, it's not going anywhere.
[20:23] <rekoil> oh
[20:23] <rekoil> didn't know that
[20:23] <rekoil> :/
[20:23] <rekoil> damn
[20:24] <Combatjuan> dv310p3r: It's in the systats package.  Get that then run something like "iostat -cdk 5" (cpu and disk stats in kilobytes every 5 seconds).  I've found it helpful when tracking performance problems.
[20:24] <rekoil> that's very disappointing
[20:24] <Moshanator> rekoil, they're trying to make it better though
[20:24] <rekoil> they better be, 11.04 was awful
[20:24] <Moshanator> rekoil, and you'll still be able to install both gnome 2 and 3 on oneiric
[20:24] <dv310p3r> Combatjuan, thanks again.
[20:24] <rekoil> yeah but it's not the same
[20:25] <ThreadDotRun> What is package name for iostat - just tries sudo apt-get install iostat and came up bupkiss.
[20:25] <rekoil> they are obviously low priorities
[20:25] <rekoil>  but i guess something is better than nothing
[20:25] <Micheal`> sysstat?
[20:25] <Moshanator> gnome 3 is not low priority, they have tons of people working on it
[20:25] <rekoil> oh goodie
[20:25] <Moshanator> because many developers liked gnome better
[20:26] <Moshanator> people from fedora, suse
[20:26] <rekoil> planet earth
[20:26] <osmosis> For the first time in years Im forced to run windows instead of Ubuntu. Too many bugs on samsung laptops. Ironic too, since samsung is making the chromebooks now.
[20:26] <rekoil> :P
[20:26] <ThreadDotRun> Yep, that was it.
[20:26] <helo> Loshki: the file doesn't look like an ELF shared object, it really is ASCII C text
[20:26] <Combatjuan> Micheal`: ?
[20:26] <rekoil> honestly though, unity is good on small screens, but it's the same deal with unity vs gnome as it is with os x 10.7 vs 10.6
[20:27] <devish> BarkingFish: what about this http://slackwiki.org/PPPoE_-_Multiple_Connections
[20:27] <rekoil> it's too simplified
[20:27] <zendeavor> so, networkmanager doesn't supply me the option to choose tkip encryption type with wpa2. mschapv2 handshake. google turns up results that tkip support has been spotty in ubuntu since about 10.10, but nothing much more relevant than that? anyone got links or suggestions? maybe i can drop a line in a config file manually or something?
[20:27] <Micheal`> Combatjuan, ignore me i am slow to reply today not enough caffeine or bacon
[20:27] <rekoil> to the point of actually confusing regular computer users in it's quest to become easy to use for the less computer-literate
[20:27] <Combatjuan> Micheal`: Roger that.  Eat more bacon.
[20:27] <rekoil> its*
[20:28] <rekoil> anyway, thanks Moshanator
[20:28] <BarkingFish> devish: I'm not entirely sure what else you can do at the moment.  Maybe someone here has a bit more clue than me :)
[20:28] <lib555> hey
[20:28] <lib555> mmmm
[20:28] <lib555> lkkl
[20:28] <lib555> kk
[20:29] <Putr> so i maneged to crash Exaile player after 5s. It froze after i clicked Options
[20:31] <kingofswords> hi
[20:31] <bittin_> hi
[20:32] <zendeavor> any ideas guys? trying to connect to the secured network at school.
[20:32] <kingofswords> hi
[20:33] <helo> zendeavor: don't give up!
[20:33] <josk> can you tell me the command to install flash player in ubuntu, getting it of the net
[20:33] <zendeavor> eh, just trying to do a friend a favor.
[20:33] <guntbert> !flash | josk
[20:34] <kingofswords> is there something like xpadder for wine /ubuntu?
[20:34] <josk> ok, restricted formats, thanks ubottu
[20:35] <Pici> kingofswords: What does xpadder do?
[20:35] <Combatjuan> zendeavor: Sorry, I've never had much luck with networkmanager outside of the gui.
[20:35] <kingofswords> lets xbox controllers work in windows/pc
[20:35] <zendeavor> i'm not a gui guy myself.
[20:36] <zendeavor> but i am just mostly curious if i'm barking up the wrong tree entirely here, since my searches have turned up results that make mention ubuntu has had spotty success with tkip for the past year.
[20:36] <kingofswords> xbcd doesnt install in wine
[20:36] <devish> how to probe NIC
[20:36] <devish> or how to get all hardware info
[20:36] <tomodachi> devish:  lspci from the terminal
[20:37] <guntbert> devish: or sudo lshw
[20:37] <zendeavor> if you use lshw, pipe it to less imo
[20:38] <guntbert> zendeavor: good advice :)
[20:38] <Combatjuan> guntbert: Thanks for that.  Much nicer output than lspci
[20:38] <pc15> el zendeavor se la come
[20:38] <Combatjuan> Though a bit less greppable
[20:38] <guntbert> Combatjuan: both have their value
[20:38] <Combatjuan> Indeed.
[20:38] <zendeavor> output it to a file and grep that.
[20:38]  * Langly greps zendeavor
[20:39] <MR_Chickhabit> hi guys, i somehow disabled my harddrives. i used pysdm to alter TOW settings on both of my hardrive, across several partitions and now my computer wont boot up. i am on the Live CD now. Can anybody help me restore my beloved ubuntu?
[20:39]  * zendeavor groks Langly
[20:39] <Pici> kingofswords: Take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xbox360Controller - Be sure to note that you should not need to compile anything for your kernel if you are using anything newer than Hardy.
[20:39] <MR_Chickhabit> TOW = TWO
[20:40] <zendeavor> MR_Chickhabit: ...check fstab?
[20:40] <trions> I am installing eGalaxTouch controller driver. Which interfacecontroller do you use? RS232 / PS/2 /USB. How can I find which one to choose?
[20:40] <kingofswords> Pici, thx ill take a look...its old xbox controllerthou
[20:40] <Pici> kingofswords: thats fine.
[20:40] <guntbert> zendeavor: why do you suggest an extra file?
[20:41] <zendeavor> lshw creates a file?
[20:41] <Pici> kingofswords: It should JustWork™ take a lookat jscalibrator to ensure that its calibrated, basically look at the Troubleshooting section there.
[20:41] <zendeavor> i thought it simply outputs to terminal, so redirecting the output to a file makes it just as easily greppable as anything else yeah?
[20:42] <kingofswords> Pici, cool ty
[20:42] <zendeavor> though the search function of less is perfectly viable.
[20:42] <MR_Chickhabit> nobody is familiar with pysdm?
[20:42] <guntbert> zendeavor: in that case I'd use sudo lshw | grep .....| less
[20:43] <IanWizard> Way to get a list of directories within a path?   I know that it's easy, I just don't know what to use.  find?  du?  (possibly some grep?)
[20:43] <IanWizard> NM, I'll use find, and grep ^d
[20:44] <MR_Chickhabit> IanWizard,  i like "dir"
[20:44] <Alenick> !list
[20:44] <Combatjuan> IanWizard: FYI: find -type d
[20:44] <IanWizard> Combatjuan, oh, that'd work.
[20:45] <p3rsist> Best way to add a startup script? update-rc.d foo defaults or add to a cron job @ startup?
[20:45] <kiichiro> is there anyway to trick xubuntu firefox to think it has microsoft silverlight?
[20:45] <IanWizard> p3rsist, rc.local is what I usually use
[20:46] <p3rsist> IanWizard, This only runs at startup right?
[20:46] <ionosphre> I just installed OpenSUSE on a separate partition and it overwrote my grub settings and now I cant boot into ubuntu whats the best way to fix this?
[20:46] <IanWizard> p3rsist, unless it gets run by hand, yes.
[20:46] <p3rsist> IanWizard, Thanks
[20:47] <bognog> is sftp better than vsftp
[20:47] <guntbert> !better | bognog
[20:49] <blink> what is a good application to convert avi to wav?
[20:49] <Pici> bognog: sftp is a protocl. vsftp is a ftp daemon.
[20:49] <zendeavor> why pipe grep to less when you can just search.
[20:49] <bognog> thanks pici
[20:50] <haus> does anyone know of an equivalent to repomanage (from yum-utils) for dpkg and debs?
[20:50] <bognog> I have never used this before, woops
[20:50] <zendeavor> p3rsist: runs once at startup as root
[20:50] <guntbert> zendeavor: I only gave an alternative to *your* suggestion to use an extra file :-))  - using just less in this case is certainly fine
[20:50] <haus> specifically, the ability to list all of the old debs (compared to the other debs of the same package) in a directory
[20:51] <Langly> When even I try and load kubuntu on my MSI wind ae1900 it freezes at this point http://i.imgur.com/ZmNyS.jpg any ideas?
[20:51] <zendeavor> well, output lshw to a file, apt-get remove lshw :)
[20:51] <Combatjuan> ionosphre: Something like backup your ubuntu menu.lst, add in the entries from your opensuse menu.lst and then use install grub from your ubuntu.
[20:51] <tanath> why does samba make things so bloody difficult?
[20:52] <zendeavor> try nfs
[20:53] <guntbert> !who | zendeavor
[20:53] <tanath> how can i share a folder that keeps giving access denied, even though permissions are set to allow?
[20:53] <tanath> (and doesn't show in share)
[20:54] <zendeavor> i'm just here to leech help about the tkip problem with networkmanager, don't patronize me guntbert !!
[20:54] <ionosphre> Combatjuan: Install from my live cd or from my terminal
[20:55] <Combatjuan> ionosphre: I don't follow.  And it's hard to be specific without knowing your drive setups and OSes plus I'm always also dealing with weird windows dual boots and when I attempt similar, I break my MBR.  But the gist is, OpenSuse probably didn't look for other OSes when it made its menu.lst.
[20:55] <tanath> i have a functioning share, and i made a link in it to another folder i want to access and made sure the permissions allow it, but i still get access denied
[20:56] <McAndy> Hi
[20:56] <Combatjuan> ionosphre: Assuming that's the case, if you boot into opensuse (which I gather you can do?), you can mount your ubuntu partition, and pull the ubuntu entries out of its menu.lst and put them in the opensuse menu.lst.  It doesn't matter who ends up with them.
[20:57] <Combatjuan> ionosphre: But whichever file ends up with them, that's the one you want to install to the MBR of your boot drive.
[20:58] <ionosphre> Ahh sorry basically just cut and paste from one file to the other. Was trying to make things more complex than needed to be.
[20:58] <tanath> how can i make the folder accessible?
[21:00] <Combatjuan> tanath: You have set up users, set up your /etc/samba/smb.conf, and set correct permissions on those folders?
[21:01] <skorm> my xmodmap settings from .Xmodmap are forgotten by the system frequently. I did not find out yet when this happens. Does anyone have the same problem?
[21:02] <tanath> Combatjuan, i used system-config-samba. everything works, except accessing that folder
[21:02] <Kroff> Bonjour
[21:02] <Kroff> Y'a-t-il des Français?
[21:02] <guntbert> !fr | Kroff
[21:03] <Sargalus> how do I get identd working on ubuntu 11.04
[21:04] <guntbert> is there any "tutorial" on "how to do things in unity" ?
[21:04] <tanath> Combatjuan, i checked permissions on the shortcut, and on the folder and the folder above and set them all to be readable by others
[21:04] <Combatjuan> tanath: The folder must also be executable.
[21:04] <tanath> Combatjuan, (folder above in actual path that is. can already access the share)
[21:05] <remington> Ubuntu wont give me options for above stereo duplex with my onboard sound, I know my onboard sound is capable of 8 channels. Any ideas? (11.04 x64)
[21:05] <tanath> Combatjuan, mm. will double-check that
[21:05] <tanath> Combatjuan, still access denied
[21:06] <tanath> Combatjuan, and doesn't show in share
[21:06] <Combatjuan> tanath: To be clear, this is not something I'm good at.  I deal with it when I have to.  I recommend http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-do-i-set-permissions-to-samba-shares.html.  Maybe check your directory_mask in the smb.conf?  Make sure the user you're using to access is a member of the proper group and/or owns the folder?
[21:07] <tanath> Combatjuan, no user. it's open
[21:07] <tanath> Combatjuan, and i can access the share, just not the linked folder
[21:08] <Combatjuan> tanath: So you have some shared folder and in that folder you have a symlink to somewhere else but can't see or enter the link?
[21:08] <tanath> Combatjuan, exactly
[21:08] <Sargalus> tanath: you have to share the folder that has the symlink to it
[21:09] <tanath> Sargalus, good to know, but i've actually already tried that and failed. that's why i'm doing it this way. no problems sharing most other folders
[21:10] <tanath> Sargalus, actually, it already is shared. but still invisible and inaccessible
[21:11] <mang0> G'night all
[21:11] <grendal-prime> werid the gnome system monitor only reports i have 3.5 gigs of ram..when i know i have 4...and yes i am running a 64 bit kernel
[21:11] <Sargalus> tanath: weird
[21:11] <Sargalus> grendal-prime: do you have onboared video?
[21:12] <grendal-prime> no..well i do but its not being used..cause i have a 4 screen array via two video cards.
[21:13] <giulia> hello. Anyone knows if and when Chromium will be the default webbrowser on ubuntu ?
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> giulia: its default in Lubuntu
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> giulia: why does 'default' mean anything?
[21:13] <tanath> Combatjuan, Sargalus , ok found something weirder. i've tried various things to get this folder shared, and now i have two shares showing up that don't exist and aren't shared anymore so shouldn't show up. and the folder i'm sharing still doesn't
[21:14] <giulia> ActionParsnip > I hate Chromium. So if I can avoid having it as a webbrowser, better
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> giulia: sure, but its very little effort to uninstall it and install whatever browser you desire
[21:15] <Combatjuan> tanath: Sounds like you don't need an ubuntu specialist, you need an exorcist.
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> giulia: I hate firefox and take similar steps to install the chromium daily build
[21:15] <giulia> ActionParsnip > yep, but you can never completely remove Evolution, and I rag evolution
[21:15] <smtail> hi all. I have been trying to install ubuntu for 4 days no... well 4 evenings anyway. Anyone able to take time out to save my sanity? I have a gigabyte GA-8KNXP Ultra motherboard, and have tried the standard install method many many times. I have tried on two seperate hard disk drives. But I keep getting "Hard Disk Error" " DISK BOOT FAILURE, Insert System Disk and Press Enter" when I restart after an install. So in have inserted the 
[21:15] <smtail> of the install
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> giulia: in Oneiric, Thunderbird is the default email app, so no Evolution
[21:16] <smtail> and used the copy live CD files
[21:16] <rigodeni> Nautilus is not showing detailed tag info about my audio files like it used to.
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> giulia: you can always use the ubuntu minimal install and simply install the apps you want
[21:16] <giulia> ActionParsnip > I couldn't wait for having Thunderbird as default mail client on Ubuntu
[21:16] <grendal-prime> hate is such a harsh word for a feeling about a browser
[21:16] <smtail> technique to reestablish
[21:16] <smtail> the the MBR
[21:16] <smtail> but still no success :-((
[21:16] <giulia> ActionParsnip > sure, I know
[21:16] <Combatjuan> smtail: Using RAID by any chance?
[21:17] <Jordan_U> smtail: I think I recommended you try Super GRUB2 Disk the other day. Have you tried that?
[21:17] <remington> Ubuntu wont give me options for above stereo duplex with my onboard sound, I know my onboard sound is capable of 8 channels. Any ideas? (11.04 x64)
[21:17] <tanath> Combatjuan, Sargalus , i checked the /etc/samba/smb.conf file manually. i'm seeing two shares that aren't there.
[21:17] <smtail> Nope. Not that I am aware. Single lonely IDE drive
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> giulia: makes it easier to remove, I use webmail+gmail-notify
[21:17] <giulia> ActionParsnip > the biggest advantage of Firefox is that I really can set the way i want it. If I need colorful tabs, be it. If I need a spellcheck in multiple languages, I can get it. It's not the case with Chromium
[21:17] <rigodeni> When viewing properties of an audio file in nautilus its not showing the advanced tab which used to read tag info
[21:17] <bognog> what channel for noobs
[21:17] <smtail> tried GRUB2, but no luck either
[21:17] <tanath> i've restarted smbd and nmbd, which changes nothing
[21:18] <Combatjuan> tanath, Sargalus: Do you need to restart smbd after making changes to the conf files?  (Or at least reload?)  I have no idea.
[21:18] <Combatjuan> tanath: Nevermind.  (-8
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> giulia: chromium here as it uses a tonne less resources to do everything I use
[21:18] <tanath> lol
[21:18] <tanath> Combatjuan, only for some changes it seems
[21:19] <giulia> ActionParsnip > I didn't say the contrary. But will removing Chromium be like removing Evolution, or will it be one package and that's all ?
[21:19] <rigodeni> When viewing properties of an audio file in nautilus its not showing the advanced tab which used to read tag info
[21:19] <guntbert> bognog: ask here or in #ubuntu-beginners
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> giulia: it removes cleanly
[21:20] <Jordan_U> smtail: You said you've tried GRUB2, have you tried Super GRUB2 Disk?
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> giulia: evolution only needed to keep evolution-data-server-common   (i believe) as it is a dep of gnome-panel
[21:20] <smtail> Hi Jordan. No I haven't how would I do that? Thank you for all your help and advise by the way
[21:20] <rigodeni> When viewing properties of an audio file in nautilus its not showing the advanced tab which used to read tag info, is there an extension to add this? I cant find one that does this...
[21:21] <giulia> ActionParsnip > ok great. So I don't need to fear of having a useless software I have to keep just for having the Ubuntu desktop
[21:21] <grendal-prime> ya that evolution dependecy of the gnome panel blows by the way
[21:21] <grendal-prime> just an observation i have
[21:22] <Bennit> Hi
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> giulia: after oneiric, should be ok. If you simply disable the service in startup apps then you won't be running the service and the package is quite small, so I wouldn't sweat it
[21:22] <eksit> Nickserv Identify
[21:22] <grendal-prime> not to say i HATE evolution,  thing is it doesnt work with (or didnt at the time) the exchange server at MS hosted email solution my company uses (big shocker there)
[21:22] <Bennit> I got openvpn client working, how do i start using it for any data traffic?
[21:23] <grendal-prime> Bennit, you need a server to connect to
[21:23] <shinsuke> hi. my compiz does not work. for example brightness settings. is my graphic card the cause? thanks for saving my eyes.
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> !identify | eksit
[21:23] <giulia> ActionParsnip > but it's not yet. I just read somewhere that it will be the case in a future we-don't-know-yet-when
[21:23] <Jordan_U> smtail: Download this iso: http://download.berlios.de/supergrub/super_grub_disk_hybrid-1.98s1.iso burn it to a CD, and try booting from it. The menu options are explained here: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/SuperGRUB2Disk#Menu_.2F_Features I would try "Detect any OS" first.
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> giulia: not yet what?
[21:23] <grendal-prime> then...some sore of service on that server...like hmmm webserver, ftp servver,  router.
[21:23] <giulia> ActionParsnip > Chromium as default webbrowser
[21:24] <Bennit> grendal-prime: I have the server set up as well
[21:24] <canaima> hello
[21:24] <Bennit> and I run openvpn client as root
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> giulia: only in Lubuntu to my knowlegde
[21:24] <giulia> ActionParsnip > Marc Shuttleworth told it somewhere
[21:24] <eksit> hey guys, does anyone know an app to make the windows glow, as a shadow that is
[21:24] <smtail> ok, thanks Jordan_U,. I'm off to give it a go
[21:24] <giulia> ActionParsnip > give me a minute to find where I read about it
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> giulia: i see, either way you can remove it cleanly so I wouldn't worry :)
[21:24] <Bennit> however when I visit a "what's my IP"-site it says my homeip and not the server's
[21:24] <Jordan_U> smtail: You're welcome.
[21:25] <grendal-prime> bennit i think your missing the point
[21:25] <rigodeni> When viewing properties of an audio file in nautilus its not showing the advanced tab which used to read tag info, is there an extension to add this? I cant find one that does this...
[21:25] <Bennit> I think I am :p
[21:25] <grendal-prime> you could make the server your gateway...i wouldnt advise that though.
[21:25] <grendal-prime> unless that server is set up to route your traffic to the internet
[21:26] <grendal-prime> like an anonomizer
[21:26] <Bennit> a proxy?
[21:26] <grendal-prime> different
[21:26] <canaima> necesito ayuda para desbloquear una canaima
[21:26] <Bennit> << headache :p
[21:26] <grendal-prime> proxy temp stores your files and requests its not a direct connection.
[21:26] <canaima> porfavor
[21:27] <smtail> ok its found 2 . Linux 2.6 and Linux 2.6 single user
[21:27] <Bennit> can't you do that with IPtables?
[21:27] <grendal-prime> vpn encrypts all your traffic from client to server and back over an internet connection...what is done with your traffic at the server...is up to the server not you
[21:27] <grendal-prime> unless you control the server.
[21:27] <Bennit> I do control the server
[21:27] <guntbert> rigodeni: does http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6643803#post6643803 help?
[21:28] <bernhard2> When i try to create a file with passwords it does not work:   htpasswd -c /etc/nginx/conf/.htpasswd/passwd password
[21:28] <grendal-prime> at that point you can force a gateway change. on the client
[21:28] <bernhard2> how do i do this ??
[21:28] <Bennit> I want to access a website through my vpn connection (if that sentence makes any sense ?)
[21:28] <grendal-prime> like i just posted
[21:28] <grendal-prime> you have to be vpning into a server that is going to then route your requests back out to the internet
[21:28] <giulia> ActionParnship > http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/061311-mark-shuttleworth.html
[21:29] <guntbert> !who > grendal-prime
[21:29] <grendal-prime> sorry that was all for bennit
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> giulia: freaky, oh well. I'll still add the daily build ppa. Doesn't matter what default apps are here
[21:30] <guntbert> bernhard2: show us (maybe in a pastebin) the errors
[21:30] <Bennit> grendal-prime: is the is a setting in the VPN server config file or should I google on something else?
[21:31] <grendal-prime> Bennit, do you have control over the server?
[21:32] <tanath> how do i get rid of non-existent samba shares?
[21:32] <giulia> ActionParnship > but will it surely happen or is it only an hypothesis ?
[21:32] <Bennit> aha grendal-prime http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/howto.html#redirect # i'll read this first then come back If I don't understand :)
[21:32] <Bennit> thanks already
[21:32] <Bennit> and yes, I do
[21:33] <Polah> How much space do the packages for GNOME take up, uninstalled and installed?
[21:33] <grendal-prime> Bennit, you need to look at openvpn.net website there are pages of howtos on what you want to do including server settings on forcing a gateway change on connecting clients
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> giulia: not sure, I generally just roll with the punches, as long as the OS rolls on I don't mind
[21:34] <grendal-prime> bennit i will get you e link
[21:34] <Bennit> the one I linked contains it I think :)
[21:34] <smtail> Jordan_U. Thank you. I'm up and running. How do I send you a virtual pint
[21:35] <grendal-prime> Bennit, see private
[21:35] <Jordan_U> smtail: You're welcome :)
[21:36] <tpdd> anyone here using ubuntu  with a optimus chipset, im not trying to get both cards working just one or the other
[21:36] <Jordan_U> smtail: It's odd that the hard drive doesn't boot normally though. Would you mind trying some tests to see if we can figure out how to get it working without needing a CD?
[21:37] <damidalla> is there a way to stop edid or ddc to work in ubuntu 11.04 in xorg?
[21:37] <grendal-prime> hey Bennit  you see that private chate dealieo thing  thar?
[21:39] <b44> Any program that can be used to duplicate QR-codes by decoding + encoding
[21:39] <b44> ??
[21:39] <Combatjuan> tpdd: There is a #bumblebee channel.  I've had no luck in there nor have I had any luck trying to disable my nvidia card and just use the intel.  If you find anything, I'd love to know.
[21:39] <konbon> Hello fellas. I just downloaded a driver for my wacom tablet and its in a a file called "linuxwacom-0.9.0.tar.bz2". Any idea how to install it ?
[21:40] <tpdd> Thanks combatjuan
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> konbon: extract it and see what is inside
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> konbon: you may find wacom is already part of your OS
[21:40] <konbon> Oh, neat
[21:40] <konbon> i plugged in it, i should try gimp first :)
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> !info xserver-xorg-input-wacom
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> konbon: its even newer than the one you downloaded
[21:41] <konbon> the one in 11.04
[21:41] <konbon> ?*
[21:41] <Combatjuan> tpdd: I'm using an AW m11x r3 though which is only kind of supported.  If you're lucky, you might just git clone; and then install Bumblebee and be loved by the universe and gifted with a unicorn and rainbows might fly out of your usb ports.  I wish you luck.
[21:41] <konbon> i just noticed it in synaptec package manager
[21:41] <konbon> looks like its installed
[21:42] <hazamonzo_> Hey folks. I just made a change to my .bashrc file. HOw can i refresh the changes without logging out and back in? There was a command and i can't remember what it was
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> konbon: exactly ;)
[21:42] <hazamonzo_> "source" something?
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> hazamonzo_: source ~/.bashrc
[21:42] <Combatjuan> hazamonzo_: source ~/.bashr... too slow
[21:42] <hazamonzo_> ActionParsnip: Thats the one! Cheers :)
[21:42] <hazamonzo_> Thanks Combatjuan
[21:42] <konbon> yeah, its not working :(
[21:43] <konbon> just tried it on Gimp and MyPaint
[21:43] <Polah> konbon: All you really had to do was see if it was picking up mouse clicks and movement :P
[21:43] <konbon> i tried that at first
[21:43] <konbon> no response :/
[21:44] <konbon> the tablet works too, i just used it on windows
[21:44] <b44> how to duplicate QR-codes ??
[21:44] <zendeavor> so, networkmanager doesn't supply me the option to choose tkip encryption type with wpa2. mschapv2 handshake. google turns up results that tkip support has been spotty in ubuntu since about 10.10, but nothing much more relevant than that? anyone got links or suggestions? maybe i can drop a line in a config file manually or something?
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> konbon: run:  lsusb    use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[21:44] <b44> any package ?
[21:44] <konbon> looking
[21:44] <Polah> konbon: So there you go, perhaps the xorg package doesn't like your tablet
[21:44] <konbon> funny, its not even detected
[21:45] <konbon> hahaha, never mind
[21:45] <konbon> im 100% stupid :)
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> zendeavor: change security is all I can suggest
[21:45] <konbon> i didnt turn it on :P
[21:45] <konbon> sorry for the mess fellas lol
[21:45] <konbon> i wont bug you again for the rest of the day :P
[21:46] <zendeavor> ActionParsnip: not an option, school network D;
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> zendeavor: i see, hmm
[21:46] <waldir> hi there. how can I change the behavior of dead keys (e.g. dead tilde) so that when I press twice it prints two tildes rather than one?
[21:46] <konbon> its working now :D
[21:46] <konbon> lol
[21:46] <Polah> konbon: Wacom tablets have on switches now?
[21:46] <konbon> my usb hub
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> d'oh
[21:46] <konbon> XD
[21:48] <Polah> Does anyone know if the Broadcom BCM94318MPG is compatible with 11.04?
[21:50] <makara> Polah, check http://linuxwireless.org
[21:51] <remington> Ubuntu wont give me options for above stereo duplex with my onboard sound, I know my onboard sound is capable of 8 channels. Any ideas? (11.04 x64)
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> Polah: if not, you can always use ndiswrapper
[21:51] <makara> find out the serial of the chip inside
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> remington: which sound card?????
[21:51] <remington> realtek alc662 rev1
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> remington: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[21:52] <Polah> Is 2.6.38 the kernel with power issues?
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> Polah: not had an issue with power under 2.6.38 here
[21:53] <remington> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=6d7b290aeee7cb5b6b47c1b8bf7e7169b473a405
[21:54] <vinnyp6056> Hi all
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> remington: are you using the USB device or the crappy creative thing/
[21:54] <vinnyp6056> I just installed elvetica fonts but it does not show up in the xlsfonts
[21:55] <vinnyp6056> I would need help debugging this
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> !fonts | vinnyp6056
[21:55] <remington> I have my 5.1 headset  that I'm using right now and it works fine, my issue is I want my speakers on my hda_intel (onboard)
 I have already read the information on that site but the error still persists
[21:55] <remington> The headset is on the creative
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> remington: i see, not sure there dude, never personally wored with dual sound cards, maybe others can help, the link you gave is very useful though
[21:57] <remington> Okay, thanks ActionParsnip. I had this issue before in Linux Mint and have no memory of how I fixed it, lol
[22:01] <b0ef> ehlo
[22:01] <b0ef> I have a server running 9.04 which gives me 404 on just about anything when I use apt. Any pointers how to set it to a historic mirror or something?
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> b0ef: jaunty is dead
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> !eol | b0ef
[22:02] <b0ef> right, I get that point, but I don't want any updates
[22:02] <b0ef> I just want some tools to help me migrate all my servers to a new one
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> b0ef: if you don't want updats, why are you using apt?
[22:03] <b0ef> I want simple packages
[22:03] <xangua> b0ef: no pagackes and neither updates
[22:03] <xangua> upgrade ;)
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> b0ef: you could use the liveCD or livedVD as a repo and install packages from there
[22:03] <b0ef> isn't there a single mirror left?
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> b0ef: nope, none at all
[22:03] <b0ef> where have all the mirrors gone?, long time ago..
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> !jaunty
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> b0ef: 10 months ago
[22:04] <b0ef> right, so I'll upgrade and break every server on it
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> b0ef: I'd run a final backup, install Lucid server then restore
[22:05] <b0ef> 2009 was like yesterday..
[22:05] <xangua> yesterday 2 years ago :P
[22:05] <b0ef> I heard something about historic.ubuntu.com or something
[22:06] <b0ef> you sure there ain't a secret hidden mirror?
[22:06] <b0ef> just tell me and I won't tell
[22:06] <remington> www.OMFGubuntuSECRETS.wtf
[22:06] <b0ef>   (hidden deep in the internet)
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> b0ef: the release is end of life, so there is no official support for the release anywhere
[22:07] <b0ef> there's always some crazy wacky dudes with a mirror, somewhere
[22:08]  * b0ef commits harakiri
[22:09] <BarkingFish> Anyone know where to find the Services list in (k)ubuntu please? I'm trying to knock out a service which I think is causing issues elsewhere in my system
[22:10] <grendal-prime> BarkingFish, use htop
[22:10] <grendal-prime> if its not installed..install it
[22:10] <grendal-prime> htop rocks no need for a desktop...
[22:11] <wonginator1221> Hi guys.  I've noticed that 11.04's interface (both unity and gnome) becomes laggy after letting my desktop sit for a while.  This has only started happening within the last month or so. Where should I start looking to fix this issue.  I've googled a bit and there were some suggestions to modify my refresh rate.  My current guess is that it's a graphics driver issue, but it has only been problematic recently..
[22:12] <b0ef> LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE
[22:12] <b0ef> I found it
[22:12] <b0ef> old-releases.ubuntu.com
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> wonginator1221: run:  top       see what is maxing, also run:   dmesg | tail     to see what's happening
[22:13] <b0ef> you can put that in your ! command
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> b0ef: it's part of the !eol afaik
[22:13] <b0ef> !eol
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> b0ef: jaunty is not supported in any way though
[22:13] <b0ef> I don't need "support"; I need packages to help me migrate
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> b0ef: that's you requesting us to support you...
[22:14] <b0ef> ;)
[22:14] <b0ef> didn't know this was ubuntu hotline
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> b0ef: its the offical support channel
[22:15] <wonginator1221> ActionParsnip: Unfortunately I just restarted to resolve the issue temporarilly.  I ran top earlier and I think Xorg was using approximately 20% of the CPU at times.
[22:15] <b0ef> right, sorry, I'll disappear in thin air, now; thanks
[22:15] <indicator> Hi, my pointer in X will not select ANY window and alt+tab won't work
[22:16] <indicator> it's almost useless to even use X at this point since nothing is functioning properly
[22:16] <indicator> what is the sudden cause of this
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> wonginator1221: well now you know the culprit, anything in dmesg?
[22:18] <wonginator1221> ActionParsnip: At the moment nothing out of the ordinary, but I'll check in later when it occurs again.
[22:18] <GOMI> what can i do ive "cheese" doesnt reconize my webcam(its a bit old i think)
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> GOMI: run:  lsusb    use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[22:20] <somsip> GOMI: I ended up buying a newer replacement that was definitely supported
[22:21] <GOMI> ActionParsnip,  oke i will try that thnx
[22:21] <GOMI> somsip, witch one did you end buying ?
[22:22] <Quantum_Ion> lusb
[22:22] <stn> hola
[22:23] <stn> alguien habal español?
[22:23] <stn> habla español?
[22:23] <m4v> !es | stn
[22:23] <GOMI> ActionParsnip,  need some more info about that lsusb , when i enter it in CL i see some stuff inclusive a webcam ?
[22:23] <stn> ok
[22:23] <stn> tnx
[22:23] <somsip> GOMI: I had a widely unsupported cheapy one, and got a Logitech C250 as a replacement for about $15
[22:24] <Quantum_Ion> solamente ingles
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> GOMI: read the output, one will be your webcam
[22:24] <Quantum_Ion> Entonces mannana sin falta
[22:24] <kenny__> .
[22:24] <somsip> GOMI: spoent a lot of time trying to find support for the cheapy one as advised by ActionParsnip, but had to admit defeat. Worth persevering though just in case you find your solution
[22:24] <ardi> hey guys, do you guys now any ati drivers  ubunutu
[22:25] <szal> !ati | ardi
[22:25] <ardi> my graphics gets all choppy when i connect to a web browser
[22:25] <GOMI> ActionParsnip,  this is what i get Bus 004 "Device 002: ID 0ac8:301b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. ZC0301 Webcam"
[22:25] <stn> can i help
[22:25] <ardi> thank you ubottu, you guys are a great help
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> GOMI: cool, ok use the ID and youo willfind guides
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> GOMI: try:     LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so cheese
[22:28] <Young_Money> *
[22:29] <GOMI> ActionParsnip, same stays black i will check google for de id i see some stuff gonna read
[22:30] <NonConformist> ya installer is still crashing just checked md5 and the file isn't corrupted =/
[22:30] <mediawork> hi
[22:31] <mediawork> I forgot what window manager I installed on my ubuntu.  Is there a way to list the installed window managers?
[22:31] <mediawork> my ubuntu is a server
[22:32] <qin> mediawork: How did you install it?
[22:32] <mediawork> qin:  using apt-get install
[22:32] <Davion> hello there, is there any gui software that replaces "ps aux" thing?
[22:32] <mediawork> qin:  Its a light and old fashioned looking one.
[22:32] <Davion> like windows task manager
[22:32] <mediawork> qin: maybe fvwm
[22:32] <qin> mediawork: history | grep apt-get
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> mediawork: if you installed a WM then you now have a desktop OS, not server
[22:33] <mediawork> ActionParsnip:  well, It hasnt booted to desktop yet, however vncserver picks out this manager I think
[22:33] <ardi> do you guys use ubuntu for playing games, or do you perfer using windows for that
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> mediawork: possibly history | grep install
[22:34] <mediawork> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[22:34] <qin> mediawork: Or: dpkg -l | grep -i Window
[22:34] <mediawork> ActionParsnip: looks like I installed lxde and then fvwm
[22:34] <mediawork> fvwm is the manager then
[22:34] <ardi> ok guys thanks for the help, talk to you guys later
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> mediawork: lxde will install openbox as wm
[22:35] <Davion> ardi: any linux distributions looks still need a very long way to challenge windows for current games in my opinion.
[22:35] <Davion> hello there, is there any gui software that replaces "ps aux" thing? > like windows task manager.
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> Davion: depends what games you like, penumbra and urbanterror work great
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> Davion: some games also run native, like doom3
[22:35] <mediawork> fvwm (a virtual window manager) what the heck is that
[22:35] <remington> If I can play it in linux, then I do. Simple as that, hehe
[22:36] <qin> Davion: htop, or gnome-system-manager
[22:36] <mediawork> looks like a regular old window manager
[22:36] <Davion> ActionParsnip: talking about like 'the witcher 2' or 'unreal tournament 3' etc.
[22:36] <Davion> qin: how can i get one of them?
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> Davion: they may run in wine
[22:36] <qin> Davion: htop in terminal, or the other one
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> Davion: for the task manager, you should have System Monitor installed
[22:37] <stn> hi
[22:37] <Davion> ActionParsnip: I tried unreal tournament 3 yesterday, it runs somehow. But have 'mouse' problems with dual monitor -.-
[22:37] <Davion> mouse runs off to right monitor and game-screen can't limit it
[22:37] <Davion> ruins everything
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> Davion: unreal tournament 3 gets a platinum rating
[22:37] <anthony> hey... guys I'm switching to ubuntu from windows 7, i've touched on linux a little bit in the past, but with this new computer i have, i can't seem to get it to recongize my network card. so im currently connected via usb, if anybody has the time to help me out please PM me, Ill be afk for a few, just got off work. let me know
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> Davion: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=9924
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> Davion: did you apply the registry patch?
[22:38] <Davion> nope, i didn't
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> Davion: then you havent really made much attempt to make it work if you ask me, the appdb is invaluable if you are using wine
[22:39] <Davion> qin: htop looks uber, thanks a lot...
[22:39] <NonConformist> I'm installing with frugal install and right when it starts copying files an error comes up saying the installer has crashed. Anybody know why this is happening?
[22:40] <Davion> ActionParsnip: it runs without any problem, point with dual monitors which i have
[22:40] <urlin2u> NonConformist, frugal...means?
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> Davion: witcher 2 doesn't run sadly :(
[22:40] <Davion> i.e. I'm trying a fast right turn, and mouse runs-off to right monitor.. while character isn't make that move
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> Davion: the patch may help the unreal install
[22:41] <Jagajugue> hey dudes,  I'm using ubuntu 10.10 Maverick and sometimes it frezze and just the mouse works, can' t click just movements. Happen something like this with you?
[22:41] <Davion> ActionParsnip: it's installed, working now... but I must cut-off the right monitor connection to run it with all enjoy.
[22:41] <qin> Davion: Run two xserver, one per head, if you really need second screen on while playing
[22:42] <Davion> qin: i'll read about that, hope it's something can help me
[22:42] <NonConformist> urlin2u: I'm installing with ubootin instead of with a cd or usb drive.
[22:43] <urlin2u> NonConformist, never heard of ubootin, could I see a link?
[22:43] <NonConformist> oops sorry
[22:43] <NonConformist> unetbootin*
[22:43] <Davion> qin: there's a function in htop, says: F7- Nice - and F8- Nice + // what's that nice?
[22:44] <urlin2u> NonConformist, what did you load with unetbootin?
[22:44] <qin> Davion: Or xmonad, I recall pointer limits. nice? more less importance.
[22:44] <urlin2u> NonConformist, and what ISO?
[22:44] <NonConformist> urlin2u, the ubuntu 11.04 iso i've also tried the 10.04 iso and when i press install on that one it says ubiquity has crashed
[22:45] <urlin2u> NonConformist, unetbootin is for loading usb's how how you used unetbootin?
[22:45] <urlin2u> have
[22:47] <NonConformist> well you can use it without a usb too hold on i link and show you scroll to the bottom and look for "frugal install" or search for it on the page you'll see it
[22:47] <NonConformist> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[22:48] <NonConformist> i'll*
[22:49] <mwilson1023> Is this the support IRC for 11.04?
[22:49] <wwooops> oh dudes. all I have to say is.. LightDM in 11.10 is gonna rock. GDM is so ugly as it is now
[22:49] <mwilson1023> I don't remember
[22:50] <NonConformist> mwilson1023, it's support for anything ubuntu
[22:50] <NonConformist> so yes lol
[22:50] <delac> except 11.10, which is in #ubuntu+1
[22:50] <mwilson1023> 11.10 is released?
[22:51] <mwilson1023> I'm going back to 10.04.2 LTS if I don't figure this out
[22:51] <mwilson1023> every time I put my computer to suspend, when I wake it up it reboots.
[22:51] <mwilson1023> any help would be appreciated. thanks.
[22:52] <aziz> hi everybody
[22:52] <w30> NonConformist, I need support for a loan for a new Ubuntu box; Do I get help here?
[22:53] <aziz> was macht man hier ?
[22:53] <urlin2u> NonConformist, I can't really get enough information to be helpful.
[22:53] <NonConformist> w30, this is ubuntu support not new computer support lol
[22:53] <NonConformist> urlin2u, would it help if i replicated the problem and posted the log?
[22:54] <mwilson1023> It seems that my OS has a suspend problem. brb, PM me pls and ty
[22:55] <urlin2u> NonConformist, not for me probably but I would look at it. So what is the reason for this type rather then a regular install, which can be done with a ISO in a partition booted by grub to install in another partition.
[22:55] <mwilson1023> i'll check with ya later.
[22:55] <myk_robinson> evening all. Got a new laptop and the wifi uses the iwlagn driver. It seems to be a bit buggy, wondering if any of you have a defined fix for this. Otherwise i will just swap the wifi adapter.
[22:56] <qin> Davion: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1181014 there is mousejail solution on gentoo forums too.
[22:56] <kingofswords> im tring to format a usb stick using usb creator and everytime i format it says its finishes but then original file r still there
[22:57] <qin> kingofswords: What file?
[22:57] <NonConformist> urlin2u, well I'm only doing it this type of install because I don't have any readily available cds or usb, but I didn't know I could do it with the method you've suggested. Is there somewhere I can go for more info on this?
[22:57] <kingofswords> is was a bootable usb so the files from that
[22:58] <kingofswords> qin sorry i mean i right click and format
[22:58] <satellit_> kingofswords: use usb startup creator for ubuntu .isos
[22:58] <urlin2u> NonConformist, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549847
[22:58] <kingofswords> satellit_, thats what i been using i think
[22:58] <w30> kingofswords, my usb stick has a read only slider like a 3.5 floppy; Does yours have one of those?
[22:59] <kingofswords> w30 nah
[22:59] <Jagajugue> Anybody here use kernel 3.0.*
[22:59] <Jagajugue> ?
[23:00] <Jagajugue> in ubuntu
[23:00] <szal> any reason to ask?
[23:01] <stn> spanish
[23:01] <n2diy> anybody ever play with gnome-voice, the speech recognition program?
[23:01] <szal> stn: didn't change since you last asked -> #ubuntu-es
[23:01] <stn> who?
[23:02] <NonConformist> Thanks urlin. ^^
[23:03] <urlin2u> NonConformist, no problem hopefully easier.
[23:07] <blackbinary1085> hi guys, how can i get the "env-update" command on ubuntu
[23:07] <blackbinary1085> ?
[23:07] <blackbinary1085> in need this for chroot
[23:07] <stn> how do I connect to the channel #ubuntu-es
[23:07] <bittin_> stn: /j #ubuntu-se
[23:07] <bittin_> stn: /j #ubuntu-es
[23:07] <bittin_> even
[23:08] <stn> in xchat
[23:08] <stn> i don't no
[23:08] <n2diy> anybody ever play with gnome-voice, the speech recognition program, I installed it with synaptic, but its not in the menus, and I can't find any files using find or locate?
[23:09] <stn> i don't know
[23:09] <stn> how do I connect to the channel #ubuntu-es
[23:09] <stn> in xchat
[23:09] <urlin2u> stn, /join #ubuntu-es
[23:09] <n2diy> stn, /j #ubuntu-es
[23:09] <stn> i don't know
[23:11] <ayram_> ¿Alguno que no sea un boot?
[23:11] <szal> !es | ayram_
[23:11] <szal> stn: what's so hard to understand about that?
[23:12] <Davion> szal: you should write in spanish =•p
[23:12] <maf1> Davio use de google tradutor
[23:12] <Gasseus> Is there a real maximum file size on ubuntu or is the theoretical 16 tb or hard disk size still the rule?
[23:12] <ayram_> Sorry, i do not...
[23:12] <ayram_> tank you!
[23:13] <stn> I'm a newbie in the irc channel
[23:13] <ayram_> hahaha, do not know....
[23:13] <ayram_> ;)
[23:13] <urlin2u> Gasseus, it's not ubuntu it is partition types
[23:13] <Davion> Gasseus: it's related not with your operation system, as far as I know but file system.
[23:14] <Gasseus> mmk
[23:14] <anthony> i can't connect via ethernet cable only USB can anybody help me?
[23:14] <anthony> just installed linux
[23:14] <stn> but I will help or not?
[23:14] <Davion> Gasseus: http://j.mp/nQ2u53
[23:15] <stn> ok, tnx
[23:15] <szal> anthony: if you're not on the machine (as you said earlier; and most probably don't have remote access to it either), this'll be a guessing game..  you better wait till you get access to the machine in question
[23:15] <urlin2u> anthony, make sure the ethernet cable works, and both ends=computer and modem works.
[23:16] <stn> See you soon
[23:16] <anthony> it does
[23:16] <anthony> i just did a fresh install of ubuntu
[23:16] <kingofswords> when i copy a file to usb stick it says its copying but when  i eject the usb it takes ages...why?
[23:16] <anthony> upgraded to 10.04
[23:17] <anthony> but for some odd reason i had to use the USB just to connect
[23:17] <maf1> Davion the list you passed is very good
[23:17] <anthony> to internet
[23:18] <urlin2u> anthony, strange, usually it is the opposite.
[23:18] <beaker__> greetings all
[23:18] <anthony> its a relatively new system
[23:18] <anthony> i7 processor 8 gigs ram, gigabyte ethernet
[23:19] <anthony> wondering why its not working as it should
[23:19] <urlin2u> anthony me to,try to tab athe nics of who your addressing, and include the comments altogether, it makes life much easier in helping. ;-)
[23:19] <Amin> what GUI/interactive command application to use for converting a 100gb ntfs partition to ext4 without losing data?
[23:20] <urlin2u> Amin, can't be done in Linux
[23:20] <beaker__> if you have enough free space it would probably be easiest to make the ext4 separate and copy everything over, then expand it to fill the ntfs
[23:20] <anthony> urlin2u just trying to fix my internet
[23:21] <Patric3> What's the name of the GNOME feature that maximises a Window you are currently dragging if you move it up towards the top of the screen ?
[23:21] <urlin2u> Patric3, compiz
[23:21] <anthony> urlin2u - i know that the USB connection is not as fast as the ethernet, so I'm postponing downloading my game and stuff until i get my connection configured properly
[23:21] <fishscene> Is there a way to install Ubuntu on a USB drive so that it can boot just fine on pretty much any computer? This includes computers with BIOS/EFI and computers with NVIDIA/ATI graphics.
[23:22] <urlin2u> anthony, the usb is wireless right, same speed, update it will probably fix the ethernet
[23:22] <beaker__> @fishscene system > startup disk creator
[23:22] <user> My sound is deffinitly working but cant play any audio...what could this be?
[23:22] <maf1> Amin i dont know of no way to do this
[23:22] <urlin2u> fishscene, so install or ful nstall.
[23:22] <beaker__> @fishscene it will work on almost everything but not on macs because usb is run in sofware
[23:22] <urlin2u> ISO
[23:23] <fishscene> beaker: Through UBuntu? I've tried following the instructions for creating a USB boot drive through Windows and Mac, but both attempts ended up with an unbootable drive
[23:23] <anthony> no no, its usb wire to cable modem
[23:23] <anthony> wired
[23:23] <fishscene> Mac's can boot off of USB, but not if Ubuntu is on it?
[23:23] <urlin2u> anthony, still same speed
[23:23] <beaker__> @fishscene did you use the .iso?
[23:23] <anthony> urlin2u how do i update it?
[23:23] <fishscene> Beaker_: yes.
[23:24] <fishscene> I even re-downloaded it via torrent to make sure the file wasn't corrupted or anything
[23:24] <beaker__> @fishscene from my experience a macbook wont boot anything off usb you have to use *shiver* optical disks
[23:24] <urlin2u> anthony, the computer in a terminal sudo apt-get update & sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:24] <fishscene> Interesting. We have 2009 Mac's that can boot off USB just fine. I hope Apple didn't change things for the worse :(
[23:24] <urlin2u> beaker__, many boot thumbs on apple computers
[23:25] <anthony> No command 'sudp' found, did you mean:
[23:25] <anthony>  Command 'sup' from package 'sup' (universe)
[23:25] <anthony>  Command 'sudo' from package 'sudo' (main)
[23:25] <anthony>  Command 'sudo' from package 'sudo-ldap' (universe)
[23:25] <anthony> sudp: command not found
[23:25] <FloodBot1> anthony: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:25] <beaker__> @fishscene do you have it to set to boot from bios? check your boot device order. do you have the boot flag set on the usb drive?
[23:25] <urlin2u> anthony sudo  rad the commands copy and paste them
[23:25] <urlin2u> read
[23:26] <user> How can I restore my Pluseaudio. If I go into "Sound" it tells me "Waiting for sound system to respond" It was working just now :-(
[23:26] <fishscene> beaker_: Interesting question... I hadn't thought of *telling* my mac to boot from the USB drive. So far, I've just had it scan for boot devices on startup (EFI). I'll see if I can "force" it to boot off the USB drive.
[23:27] <anthony> No command 'sudp' found, did you mean:
[23:27] <anthony> urlin2u command list after that, gave it no command
[23:27] <urlin2u> anthony, your not reading the command I posted
[23:28] <urlin2u> anthony,  sudo apt-get update & sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:28] <user> Come to think of it...I have more problem with Uubntu than with an infected Windows
[23:28] <urlin2u> anthony, no sudp there
[23:29] <urlin2u> user, lol
[23:29] <anthony> k
[23:29] <fishscene> user: Have you tried rebooting your computer?
[23:29] <urlin2u> anthony, hold on   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade  this is correct Ileft out the && the first time
[23:30] <anthony> still not working
[23:30] <anthony> just uplugged usb
[23:30] <anthony> lost connection
[23:31] <urlin2u> anthony, use the update manager than.
[23:32] <w30> user, man pulseaudio; pulseaudo --kill pulseaudio --start
[23:32] <anthony> It says Your system is up-to-date
[23:33] <Langly> I am trying to get kubuntu to run on a MSI wind ae1900 all in one machine, freezes when it loads "numbers: sda" on screen every time, any ideas http://i.imgur.com/ZmNyS.jpg
[23:35] <urlin2u> anthony, good did you run it? Otherwise I have no idea why the ethernet is not working in the ethernet slot. I would boot a live cd and see if it works to make sure.
[23:36] <anthony> im positive it works
[23:36] <anthony> I just came from windows 7
[23:36] <anthony> and it worked fine
[23:36] <TheMatrix3000> ok need help with a script
[23:37] <TheMatrix3000> trying to move files that begin with 2011-05 to a folder called 2011-05, 2011-06 to 2011-06 etc
[23:37] <adante> hi
[23:37] <adante> in lvdisplay i ahve a /dev/disk1/mythrecording - how do i mount this ?
[23:37] <fishscene> anthony: try "ifconfig" Does it say antying in there about an interface being up or down?
[23:37] <adante> i used to be able to mount /dev/disk1/mythrecording or /dev/mapper/disk1-mythrecording or something but it does not seem to exist
[23:38] <urlin2u> anthony, okay your the one who knows, that is all mt ides. ;-)
[23:38] <urlin2u> ideas
[23:38] <anthony> urlin2u is the ethernet eth0
[23:38] <kapipi> Hey, is there a way to control what font is used for rendering Japanese characters in 11.04?
[23:39] <remington> everything seems to mount in /media for me
[23:40] <urlin2u> anthony, no that would be wireless
[23:40] <sx> 131541563
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[23:40] <sx> 3
[23:40] <FloodBot1> sx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:40] <sx> 33
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[23:40] <anthony> its weird
[23:40] <anthony> it says im connected to eth 1
[23:40] <anthony> but i have the USB connected
[23:41] <anthony> and without it, i lose connection
[23:41] <fishscene> Anthony, how many network devices do you have total?
[23:42] <anthony> fishscene just my ethernet card, and the usb port
[23:42] <anthony> fishscene for some reason it wouldnt let me connect through ethernet cable, so i pluggin in modem via usb, and it lets me connect
[23:42] <urlin2u> anthony, this is not an area I am real sure on good luck. ;-)
[23:43] <fishscene> Do you have a 2nd network cable we could plug into your primary network port?
[23:44] <fishscene> Anthony, if you do have a 2nd network cable, could you give me a breakout of which device is what? (example: eth0=primary, eth1=usb)
[23:45] <salgadobreno> Hi, Ive got a new notebook thats an I5, 64 bits, should I go with 64bit ubuntu or 32bit `recomended`?
[23:45] <fishscene> salgadobreno: How much RAM?
[23:45] <anthony> im assuming USB is auto eth1, being as that is the connection that is active
[23:45] <fishscene> ok.
[23:46] <fishscene> anthony, were you able to find a 2nd network cable to plug in to eth0?
[23:46] <salgadobreno> fishscene: 6gb
[23:47] <Stu1> alright everyone, I have a question about Ubungi
[23:47] <fishscene> Ubuntu 32-bit will only be able to handle 4GB's. I recommend 64-bit unless you're doing flash-stuff (flash support has been iffy)
[23:47] <anthony> fishscene im not sure what u mean, i ahve 1 usb cable and 1 ethernet cable, and only 1 ethernet port on the back of my computer
[23:48] <fishscene> anthony: is the USB running directly to the back of your cable modem? or is a network cable plugged into your USB cord?
[23:48] <anthony> USB is running to the back of the modem
[23:49] <fishscene> That might be the problem right there.
[23:49] <_riz_> so I just spent an hour fighting with the install for 11.04 onto a USB hard drive, and after all that, it doesn't *boot*
[23:49] <_riz_> any suggestions?
[23:49] <fishscene> I've seen some cable modems that offer USB and Ethernet, but you can only use one or the other. Your internet IP address is mapped to either the USB or Ethernet. Some companies allow both, but will bill you for 2 connections to the internet.
[23:50] <salgadobreno> fishscene: apart from flash, are 64bits well supported?
[23:50] <urlin2u> anthony, check this link and look if you have realtek http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1771602
[23:50] <user> How stable is Ubuntu? Is it supose to crash everyday?
[23:50] <fishscene> salgadobreno: To be honest, I'm not sure. I really only use Ubuntu 64-bit and I've had almost no trouble with it. Flash support is spotty, but I don't browse webpages on it.
[23:50] <Akiyama-san> Hello, i'm using Ubuntu 11.04, and everytime an application uses my hard disk, the cpu jumps to 100%. For example, when I open a folder or copy a file using nautilus, re-checking a torrent download or opening a VM. Can someone here help me? PS:While I was using Ubuntu 10.04 this didnt happen.
[23:51] <urlin2u> user, no
[23:51] <fishscene> user: Nope. Theoretically if all is well, it should run forever without issues.
[23:51] <Squarism2> What is the function called that "lets software on computers on your lan open port forwarding in your router dynamically" ?`
[23:51] <anthony> urlin2u yes that is what it reads
[23:51] <anthony> urlin2u thats my network card exactly
[23:51] <fishscene> Squarism: UPnP?
[23:51] <nac-godfather> Is there a way to see where a package would install contents?  Like "dpkg -L" but for a package that's not installed yet?
[23:51] <fishscene> (Universal Plug 'n Play)
[23:52] <urlin2u> _riz_, how did you install to the usb drive?
[23:52] <_riz_> urlin2u: not sure I understand the question.
[23:52] <_riz_> I used the installer on the 'desktop' iso
[23:52] <_riz_> I did have to unplug my internal HD to not have it completely screw me over
[23:52] <urlin2u> _riz_, you have a install to the udb, how did you do that=install
[23:53] <urlin2u> usb*
[23:53] <user> fishscene: I can't see that happening with this OS. It drops sound drivers while playing movies.
[23:53] <_riz_> I used the installer.
[23:53] <anthony> Do i need a 64 bit ubuntu or something< I'm coming from windows 7 64 bit
[23:53] <igorT> I've beet trying for couple of hours to configure my 27'' Cinema Display to display the 256 x 1440 resolution(which my hw supports). I switched to the radeon drivers, and 1280x720 works, but 2560x1440 just shows a black screen. Any ideas?
[23:54] <_riz_> the disk has everything on it, but the bios doesnt recognize it as bootable
[23:54] <_riz_> or something
[23:54] <nac-godfather> maybe add the edid to xorg.conf
[23:54] <fishscene> user: some hardware is supported better than others. To be honest, I don't know much about how to diagnose sound problems. Maybe another kind soul will be able to help you out.
[23:54] <szal> anthony: "need" depends on the use case..  for some reason that is beyond me, the official recommendation is 32bit, but honestly I don't see a reason not to run 64bit if your hardware can do it
[23:55]  * Langly misses his old Alpha system
[23:55] <fishscene> I agree with szal.
[23:55] <urlin2u> _riz_,  how did you load the usb with a booted cd r thumb?
[23:55] <_riz_> cd
[23:55]  * szal was skeptical at first, but decided to just go for it when he got his 1st 64bit system
[23:56] <anthony> how do i check to see if im on 64 or 32 bit ubuntu?
[23:56] <fishscene> Anthony, what happens when you disconnect your USB cable from your cable modem, plug in an ethernet cord to your computer, and reboot the cable modem?
[23:56] <urlin2u> _riz_, did you use the something else option, and point grub at that device?
[23:56] <bittin_> intresting: http://twit.tv/specials91
[23:56] <user> fishscene: that's just the problem...The errors I get is unsolvable. This is a straight forward basic netbook with basic hardware
[23:56] <_riz_> urlin2u: I don't think so; the USB drive was the only disk in the machine
[23:56] <szal> anthony: 'uname -a' will tell you (w/ i686/i386 being 32bit and x86_64 being 64bit)
[23:56] <fishscene> user: What netbook?
[23:57] <user> Mecer 1100
[23:57] <anthony> fishscene i lose connection
[23:57] <_riz_> If I can force install grub or whatever is used these days from the live CD I can do that
[23:57] <fishscene> anthony: Do you get an IP address on the ethernet port?
[23:57] <user> If I do a complete backup of this system via Remastersys...I can then install it on a other machine like a desktop?
[23:58] <urlin2u> _riz_, do you have a ubuntu install on the computersHD now that is bootable?
[23:58] <_riz_> urlin2u: no
[23:58] <_riz_> only the cd
[23:58] <fishscene> user: m1100?
[23:58] <user> Yes
[23:59] <user> If I do a complete backup of this system via Remastersys...I can then install it on a other machine like a desktop?