Unit193charlie-tca: If you don't mind and have a sec, seems as if it failed and these seemed to be the most noticavle errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/674225/00:44
raevolis lightdm for xubuntu being pushed back to 12.04?01:06
Unit193We are going to stick with it for Oneiric01:08
raevolso lightdm will be included in oneiric? sorry, just clarifying the tense :/01:30
raevolnevermind i understand -_-01:30
raevolcool, i am excited :) so long gdm!01:31
charlie-tcaUnit193: is that after installing?01:49
charlie-tcaThat libwebcam error was supposed to be fixed already01:49
charlie-tcaWhat kind of partitioning?01:50
charlie-tca135 changes for oneiric in the last 20 hours02:11
* micahg hasn't started his uploads yet :)02:16
Unit193charlie-tca: No, that was for the other one02:25
charlie-tcafor alternate?02:31
* charlie-tca is spending a lot of time confused02:32
Unit193That's all my fault (Wrong channel tto...)02:33
charlie-tcaOh, good. Prefer to know my confusion is not my own doing, this time :)02:52
Unit193Was I the only one that got the "oneconf-query" crash?03:10
Unit193And service03:10
Unit193Good, I can ignore it then03:11
charlie-tcano, that one is on every install03:12
GridCubebug 83148803:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 831488 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "gnome-control-center not found on xubuntu oneiric when launching bluetooth device" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83148803:12
GridCubeno wrong one03:12
charlie-tcaThat one should be fixed now, isn't it?03:12
GridCubei dont know, i just repasted the error03:13
charlie-tcaThis one - bug 83137003:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 831370 in oneconf (Ubuntu) "oneconf crashes constantly on xubuntu oneiric " [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83137003:13
charlie-tcaI think the bluetooth bug is fixed, either today or tomorrow03:13
GridCubeyes that one03:14
GridCubewrong pasting03:14
charlie-tcaheh, hate that03:15
charlie-tcawell, people, I need to go rest. My brain is tired and my internet is all the way up to 34.3kBps03:15
GridCubehow are things going on mister charlie?03:15
charlie-tcaAt least the lag is gone now03:15
charlie-tcaGridCube: going great!03:16
GridCube:) awesome03:16
Unit193*Master ;)03:16
GridCubei got my first check today :D03:16
charlie-tcaWe are in the final runs now, to get things done03:16
charlie-tcaNice to get paid for work done, too?03:16
GridCube:D yes03:16
GridCubeand then some03:16
charlie-tcayeah, I used to know that feeling03:17
charlie-tcanow, my pay is when you guys say "Thanks!"03:17
GridCubewell you know how thankful i am :)03:17
charlie-tcaYes, that is part of what makes it all so good.03:18
GridCubego get some rest mister charlie-tca 03:18
charlie-tcaKnowing I can still help one or two, sometimes, is a good thing03:19
charlie-tcaSee you tomorrow, sir!03:19
GridCubeyou to 03:19
mr_pouitxubuntu/daily: oneiric-alternate-i386.iso oversized by 16035840 bytes (750039040)11:39
mr_pouitit seems it jumped from ~300K to ~16M :>11:39
charlie-tcaGood morning14:48
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mr_pouito hai15:02
mr_pouitplease file a bug for the plymouth typo, otherwise I'm going to forget it15:03
mr_pouitthe bluetooth menu entry in settings doesn't work also15:04
mr_pouitI think there's already a bug filed, but I'm not sure we want gnome-control-center anyway15:05
mr_pouitbug 83148815:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 831488 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "gnome-control-center not found on xubuntu oneiric when launching bluetooth device" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83148815:05
charlie-tcaThere is a bug already. seems like gnome-control-center is getting in the way15:05
mr_pouitif it needs gnome-control-center to change its settings, it's a no-go for us15:06
charlie-tcayup, seems like that is another wrong way to do things15:06
GridCubegood morning15:08
mr_pouitno, it's not wrong, the program is "gnome-bluetooth" after all :p15:09
charlie-tcavalid, I guess ;)15:12
charlie-tcaplymouth bug 83383315:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 833833 in xubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "parser error in plymouth script" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83383315:13
charlie-tcano problem15:13
charlie-tcaGlad we catch these things, instead of waiting for the final release to find them15:14
mr_pouitgrmpf, why are onboard settings in the accessories menu15:18
charlie-tcaI don't know. Normally though, Onboard disappears from the menu for the release. Can we keep it?15:19
charlie-tcaI don't care where Onboard settings goes, but would like to keep Onboard keyboard in the menu15:20
mr_pouitwe can keep a copy of the desktop file (mmmh), or file a bug asking them to keep it displayed for xfce (better)15:21
charlie-tcaWe have filed many bugs asking to keep it in the menu, every one of them gets closed as invalid, because those who need Onboard should know to start it from terminal15:21
mr_pouitmmh, did you ask them to keep it for xfce only?15:22
charlie-tcawhich, imho, is ridiculous. If I need on onscreen keyboard, I can't type in terminal15:22
charlie-tcadon't remember now15:22
charlie-tcaI can file it, though15:23
charlie-tcaIt's a simple enough bug15:23
mr_pouityeah, and if they close it again, I can say unpleasant things again, sometimes it works15:24
charlie-tcaOkay, I will get it filed15:25
* charlie-tca likes when mr_pouit says unpleasant things to them15:25
GridCube833833 thats an odd number :P15:29
davmor2GridCube: no that is an even number -1 :P15:31
GridCube:P yeah english is fun15:31
mr_pouitdo we want xterm/uxterm displayed int he menu?15:31
* GridCube doesnt really care, but thinks its a redundancy15:32
GridCubei think its a redundancy :P15:32
charlie-tcamr_pouit: what purpose does it serve? Isn't xfce4-terminal there, too?15:32
charlie-tcaI don't know why we would need it there.15:32
charlie-tcaIs there a way to find what Ubuntu will hide in the menus before final images? I know they hide a lot of entries at that time15:33
* GridCube likes to launch xterm from alt-f2 but thats because alt-f2 doesnt have autocomplete and writing xfce4-terminal takes to much time XD15:34
mr_pouiteasily, no :(15:34
mr_pouitit's easy to detect desktop files that are here but hidden15:34
mr_pouitbut harder when they're not hidden yet :p15:34
charlie-tcaGridCube: hiding the entry in the menu doesn't remove the application15:35
GridCubethats because there is no easy way to edit the menus?15:35
GridCubeyes i know, but if you hide uxterm or whoever its called no one will even know its there15:35
charlie-tcano, It's because with the final image being tested, it is late to find you have to change a bunch of desktop files15:35
GridCube(and i dont see why they would want another terminal emulator having xterm and xfce4-terminal)15:36
mr_pouit(anyway, if you find something that should be hidden in xubuntu, you can file a bug against xubuntu-default-settings)15:36
charlie-tcaI will start looking in the menus during the test installs15:36
charlie-tcaI think having more than Terminal in the menus becomes confusing.15:37
charlie-tcaEspecially when the user discovers they don't even look the same15:37
charlie-tcaIt is one of those "I customized the terminal, and next time I clicked it in the menu, it was completely different again" things15:38
charlie-tcaOnboard in menu bug 83386215:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 833862 in onboard (Ubuntu) "Onboard Keyboard should have a menu entry for Xubuntu/Xfce" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83386215:44
GridCubecan i support it?15:45
GridCubealso ain't unity meant for touchpads?15:51
mr_pouitI field Bug #833873 in the meantime15:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 833873 in onboard (Ubuntu) "Onboard settings not in settings menu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83387315:51
charlie-tcaworks for me15:51
GridCubeisnt it stupid to hide onboard keyboard if its meant for tablets or stuff like that?15:52
charlie-tcaOnboard was originally written specifically as an onscreen keyboard for users that can not use a hardware keyboard15:52
GridCubeyes, but it works on tablets?15:53
charlie-tcaYes, it should. We had a big discussion about that on the mailing list15:55
charlie-tcaIt is not fully touchpad aware, AFAIR15:56
charlie-tcaThen again, I don't have a touchpad to test with15:56
charlie-tcaOkay, I have to play with a wasp nest now. Killed it once, missed some bees, apparently.16:01
GridCubeoh wasps, the first paper makers of the history of time16:06
GridCube(assuming that there is no other lifeforms in the rest of the universe)16:07
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micahgugh, i386 alternate is massively oversized16:46
micahgah, we ended up with a lot of languages :)16:46
charlie-tcaThey must have dropped the language packs finally16:55
charlie-tcawell, those wasps certainly get angry when you break their nests16:57
charlie-tcaNext time, I need more than a 12 inch (30 mm) bar16:57
charlie-tcawas that a disconnect or netspit I see17:02
charlie-tcaJust under 2 hours for UI Freeze and Beta1 freeze. This will be a hard freeze, no changes until beta1 releases, I think.19:19
madnickplymouth :o19:20
madnickIs it fixed?19:20
madnickmaybe bugfixes are not part of UI freeze :P19:21
charlie-tcaplymouth bug 83383319:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 833833 in xubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "parser error in plymouth script" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83383319:22
charlie-tcamadnick: not fixed yet19:22
charlie-tcaGood news is that with the bug report, it won't get forgotten19:40
micahgwell, no changes unless it fixes a release critical bug, I don't think that one is release critical and unless something is broke by it, I'd rather fix it after beta 119:55
* micahg will look into the oversized issue later tonight19:55
charlie-tcaYeah, no problem there19:57
charlie-tcaI think the oversized issue is because of the language pack drop19:57
micahg? shouldn't that make it less, the change happened a couple days ago I thought...19:58
charlie-tcaDidn't Ubuntu just dump all the language packs into oneiric?20:00
micahgah, yeah, hmm, but shouldn't that affect amd64 as well?20:01
micahgoh, right, hehe, I'll fix later :)20:01
Olbi|2Hello :D20:53
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astraljavaHi there.21:04
micahglooks like we'll have pidgin 2.10.0 for beta, thanks to cyphermox21:05
mr_pouitwell, the typo is in the fsck part21:11
charlie-tcaWe didn't pick up mono by some chance, did we?21:11
mr_pouitso I don't know how the theme will behave in this case21:11
madnickmr_pouit: i tried running fsck with the typo present21:16
madnickit did not break21:16
mr_pouitnice, so it can wait after the beta ;p21:23
micahgcharlie-tca: do you have evidence of this transgression?21:25
charlie-tcano, just asking21:35
micahgcharlie-tca: not that I know of :)21:37
charlie-tcaOkay, back to work then21:39

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