[00:44] <Unit193> charlie-tca: If you don't mind and have a sec, seems as if it failed and these seemed to be the most noticavle errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/674225/
[01:06] <raevol> is lightdm for xubuntu being pushed back to 12.04?
[01:08] <Unit193> We are going to stick with it for Oneiric
[01:30] <raevol> so lightdm will be included in oneiric? sorry, just clarifying the tense :/
[01:30] <raevol> nevermind i understand -_-
[01:31] <raevol> cool, i am excited :) so long gdm!
[01:49] <charlie-tca> Unit193: is that after installing?
[01:49] <charlie-tca> That libwebcam error was supposed to be fixed already
[01:50] <charlie-tca> What kind of partitioning?
[02:11] <charlie-tca> 135 changes for oneiric in the last 20 hours
[02:16]  * micahg hasn't started his uploads yet :)
[02:25] <Unit193> charlie-tca: No, that was for the other one
[02:31] <charlie-tca> for alternate?
[02:32]  * charlie-tca is spending a lot of time confused
[02:33] <Unit193> That's all my fault (Wrong channel tto...)
[02:52] <charlie-tca> Oh, good. Prefer to know my confusion is not my own doing, this time :)
[03:10] <Unit193> Was I the only one that got the "oneconf-query" crash?
[03:10] <Unit193> And service
[03:11] <GridCube> nope
[03:11] <Unit193> Good, I can ignore it then
[03:12] <charlie-tca> no, that one is on every install
[03:12] <GridCube> bug 831488
[03:12] <GridCube> no wrong one
[03:12] <charlie-tca> That one should be fixed now, isn't it?
[03:13] <GridCube> i dont know, i just repasted the error
[03:13] <charlie-tca> This one - bug 831370
[03:13] <charlie-tca> I think the bluetooth bug is fixed, either today or tomorrow
[03:14] <GridCube> yes that one
[03:14] <GridCube> wrong pasting
[03:15] <charlie-tca> heh, hate that
[03:15] <GridCube> :)
[03:15] <charlie-tca> well, people, I need to go rest. My brain is tired and my internet is all the way up to 34.3kBps
[03:15] <GridCube> how are things going on mister charlie?
[03:15] <charlie-tca> At least the lag is gone now
[03:15] <GridCube> :D
[03:16] <charlie-tca> GridCube: going great!
[03:16] <GridCube> :) awesome
[03:16] <Unit193> *Master ;)
[03:16] <GridCube> i got my first check today :D
[03:16] <charlie-tca> We are in the final runs now, to get things done
[03:16] <charlie-tca> Great!
[03:16] <GridCube> indeed
[03:16] <charlie-tca> Nice to get paid for work done, too?
[03:16] <GridCube> :D yes
[03:16] <GridCube> and then some
[03:16] <GridCube> :P
[03:17] <charlie-tca> yeah, I used to know that feeling
[03:17] <GridCube> hahaha
[03:17] <charlie-tca> now, my pay is when you guys say "Thanks!"
[03:17] <GridCube> XD
[03:17] <GridCube> well you know how thankful i am :)
[03:18] <charlie-tca> Yes, that is part of what makes it all so good.
[03:18] <GridCube> :)
[03:18] <GridCube> go get some rest mister charlie-tca 
[03:19] <charlie-tca> Knowing I can still help one or two, sometimes, is a good thing
[03:19] <GridCube> :D
[03:19] <charlie-tca> See you tomorrow, sir!
[03:19] <GridCube> you to 
[11:39] <mr_pouit> xubuntu/daily: oneiric-alternate-i386.iso oversized by 16035840 bytes (750039040)
[11:39] <mr_pouit> it seems it jumped from ~300K to ~16M :>
[14:48] <charlie-tca> Good morning
[15:02] <mr_pouit> o hai
[15:03] <mr_pouit> please file a bug for the plymouth typo, otherwise I'm going to forget it
[15:03] <charlie-tca> Okay
[15:04] <mr_pouit> the bluetooth menu entry in settings doesn't work also
[15:04] <charlie-tca> Ouch
[15:05] <mr_pouit> I think there's already a bug filed, but I'm not sure we want gnome-control-center anyway
[15:05] <mr_pouit> bug 831488
[15:05] <charlie-tca> There is a bug already. seems like gnome-control-center is getting in the way
[15:06] <mr_pouit> if it needs gnome-control-center to change its settings, it's a no-go for us
[15:06] <charlie-tca> yup, seems like that is another wrong way to do things
[15:08] <GridCube> good morning
[15:09] <mr_pouit> no, it's not wrong, the program is "gnome-bluetooth" after all :p
[15:12] <charlie-tca> valid, I guess ;)
[15:13] <charlie-tca> plymouth bug 833833
[15:13] <mr_pouit> thanks
[15:13] <charlie-tca> no problem
[15:14] <charlie-tca> Glad we catch these things, instead of waiting for the final release to find them
[15:18] <mr_pouit> grmpf, why are onboard settings in the accessories menu
[15:19] <charlie-tca> I don't know. Normally though, Onboard disappears from the menu for the release. Can we keep it?
[15:20] <charlie-tca> I don't care where Onboard settings goes, but would like to keep Onboard keyboard in the menu
[15:20] <mr_pouit> yeah
[15:21] <mr_pouit> we can keep a copy of the desktop file (mmmh), or file a bug asking them to keep it displayed for xfce (better)
[15:21] <charlie-tca> We have filed many bugs asking to keep it in the menu, every one of them gets closed as invalid, because those who need Onboard should know to start it from terminal
[15:22] <mr_pouit> mmh, did you ask them to keep it for xfce only?
[15:22] <charlie-tca> which, imho, is ridiculous. If I need on onscreen keyboard, I can't type in terminal
[15:22] <charlie-tca> don't remember now
[15:23] <charlie-tca> I can file it, though
[15:23] <charlie-tca> It's a simple enough bug
[15:24] <mr_pouit> yeah, and if they close it again, I can say unpleasant things again, sometimes it works
[15:25] <charlie-tca> Okay, I will get it filed
[15:25] <charlie-tca> :)
[15:25]  * charlie-tca likes when mr_pouit says unpleasant things to them
[15:29] <GridCube> 833833 thats an odd number :P
[15:31] <davmor2> GridCube: no that is an even number -1 :P
[15:31] <mr_pouit> ahaha
[15:31] <GridCube> :P yeah english is fun
[15:31] <mr_pouit> do we want xterm/uxterm displayed int he menu?
[15:32]  * GridCube doesnt really care, but thinks its a redundancy
[15:32] <GridCube> i think its a redundancy :P
[15:32] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: what purpose does it serve? Isn't xfce4-terminal there, too?
[15:32] <charlie-tca> I don't know why we would need it there.
[15:33] <charlie-tca> Is there a way to find what Ubuntu will hide in the menus before final images? I know they hide a lot of entries at that time
[15:34]  * GridCube likes to launch xterm from alt-f2 but thats because alt-f2 doesnt have autocomplete and writing xfce4-terminal takes to much time XD
[15:34] <mr_pouit> easily, no :(
[15:34] <mr_pouit> it's easy to detect desktop files that are here but hidden
[15:34] <mr_pouit> but harder when they're not hidden yet :p
[15:35] <charlie-tca> GridCube: hiding the entry in the menu doesn't remove the application
[15:35] <GridCube> thats because there is no easy way to edit the menus?
[15:35] <GridCube> yes i know, but if you hide uxterm or whoever its called no one will even know its there
[15:35] <charlie-tca> no, It's because with the final image being tested, it is late to find you have to change a bunch of desktop files
[15:36] <GridCube> (and i dont see why they would want another terminal emulator having xterm and xfce4-terminal)
[15:36] <mr_pouit> (anyway, if you find something that should be hidden in xubuntu, you can file a bug against xubuntu-default-settings)
[15:36] <charlie-tca> Okay
[15:36] <charlie-tca> I will start looking in the menus during the test installs
[15:37] <charlie-tca> I think having more than Terminal in the menus becomes confusing.
[15:37] <charlie-tca> Especially when the user discovers they don't even look the same
[15:38] <charlie-tca> It is one of those "I customized the terminal, and next time I clicked it in the menu, it was completely different again" things
[15:44] <charlie-tca> Onboard in menu bug 833862
[15:45] <GridCube> can i support it?
[15:45] <GridCube> :P
[15:45] <charlie-tca> yes
[15:48] <GridCube> :D
[15:48] <GridCube> done!
[15:51] <GridCube> also ain't unity meant for touchpads?
[15:51] <mr_pouit> I field Bug #833873 in the meantime
[15:51] <charlie-tca> works for me
[15:52] <GridCube> isnt it stupid to hide onboard keyboard if its meant for tablets or stuff like that?
[15:52] <charlie-tca> Onboard was originally written specifically as an onscreen keyboard for users that can not use a hardware keyboard
[15:53] <GridCube> yes, but it works on tablets?
[15:55] <charlie-tca> Yes, it should. We had a big discussion about that on the mailing list
[15:56] <charlie-tca> It is not fully touchpad aware, AFAIR
[15:56] <charlie-tca> Then again, I don't have a touchpad to test with
[16:01] <charlie-tca> Okay, I have to play with a wasp nest now. Killed it once, missed some bees, apparently.
[16:06] <GridCube> oh wasps, the first paper makers of the history of time
[16:07] <GridCube> (assuming that there is no other lifeforms in the rest of the universe)
[16:46] <micahg> ugh, i386 alternate is massively oversized
[16:46] <micahg> ah, we ended up with a lot of languages :)
[16:55] <charlie-tca> They must have dropped the language packs finally
[16:57] <charlie-tca> well, those wasps certainly get angry when you break their nests
[16:57] <charlie-tca> Next time, I need more than a 12 inch (30 mm) bar
[17:02] <charlie-tca> was that a disconnect or netspit I see
[19:19] <charlie-tca> Just under 2 hours for UI Freeze and Beta1 freeze. This will be a hard freeze, no changes until beta1 releases, I think.
[19:20] <madnick> plymouth :o
[19:20] <madnick> Is it fixed?
[19:21] <madnick> maybe bugfixes are not part of UI freeze :P
[19:22] <charlie-tca> plymouth bug 833833
[19:22] <charlie-tca> madnick: not fixed yet
[19:23] <madnick> okay
[19:40] <charlie-tca> Good news is that with the bug report, it won't get forgotten
[19:55] <micahg> well, no changes unless it fixes a release critical bug, I don't think that one is release critical and unless something is broke by it, I'd rather fix it after beta 1
[19:55]  * micahg will look into the oversized issue later tonight
[19:57] <charlie-tca> Yeah, no problem there
[19:57] <charlie-tca> I think the oversized issue is because of the language pack drop
[19:58] <micahg> ? shouldn't that make it less, the change happened a couple days ago I thought...
[20:00] <charlie-tca> Didn't Ubuntu just dump all the language packs into oneiric?
[20:01] <micahg> ah, yeah, hmm, but shouldn't that affect amd64 as well?
[20:01] <micahg> oh, right, hehe, I'll fix later :)
[20:53] <Olbi|2> Hello :D
[20:56] <madnick> hi
[21:04] <astraljava> Hi there.
[21:05] <micahg> looks like we'll have pidgin 2.10.0 for beta, thanks to cyphermox
[21:11] <mr_pouit> well, the typo is in the fsck part
[21:11] <charlie-tca> We didn't pick up mono by some chance, did we?
[21:11] <mr_pouit> so I don't know how the theme will behave in this case
[21:16] <madnick> mr_pouit: i tried running fsck with the typo present
[21:16] <madnick> it did not break
[21:23] <mr_pouit> nice, so it can wait after the beta ;p
[21:23] <madnick> :((
[21:25] <micahg> charlie-tca: do you have evidence of this transgression?
[21:35] <charlie-tca> no, just asking
[21:37] <micahg> charlie-tca: not that I know of :)
[21:39] <charlie-tca> Okay, back to work then