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andyrock | is there something of the unity team? | 07:31 |
andyrock | someones sorry :) | 07:31 |
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andyrock | DBO around? | 08:03 |
andyrock | gord, around? | 08:03 |
gord | andyrock, hey, whats up? | 08:04 |
andyrock | gord, about the dash dnd problem | 08:04 |
andyrock | well we use nux::GetWindow().GetDndData("text/uri-list") | 08:05 |
andyrock | and when we dragging something from the dash this value is null | 08:05 |
andyrock | it should be "application:://etc.dekstop" or something like this | 08:06 |
gord | andyrock, have you upgraded your stack? iirc that value is provided by the lens'es and until late yesterday, they were giving out null values | 08:08 |
andyrock | gord, unity lense application Version: 0.4.2-0ubuntu1 | 08:09 |
andyrock | gord, btw how can i show in terminal the LOG_DEBUG stuff? | 08:17 |
gord | andyrock, tim posted a mail to ayatana-dev explaining all that, export UNITY_LOG_SEVERITY="<root>=INFO;" gets you all the debug calls in unity iirc | 08:18 |
andyrock | gord, thx | 08:19 |
gord | andyrock, trying to get a grip on whats going on with this dnd stuff, seems like it should be working =\ | 08:20 |
andyrock | gord, well i worked on dnd stuff, but everything is based on nux::GetWindow().GetDndData("text/uri-list") | 08:21 |
andyrock | also with the "old dnd" this functions was the "pivot" | 08:22 |
gord | yeah we just return the same string for whatever getdnddata you ask for | 08:22 |
andyrock | btw in resultgridview should be the error | 08:22 |
andyrock | let me debug :) | 08:24 |
andyrock | gord, around? | 09:32 |
gord | andyrock, yup | 09:34 |
andyrock | gord, so current_drag_uri_ is filled in ResultViewGrid::DndSourceDragBegin() | 09:35 |
andyrock | and then it is used in ResultViewGrid::DndSourceDragBegin() | 09:35 |
andyrock | sorry in DndSourceGetDataForType | 09:36 |
andyrock | maybe DBO can confirm, but i think that DndSourceGetDataForType is called first that ResultViewGrid::DndSourceDragBegin | 09:37 |
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gord | andyrock, heh really? lets try flipping it around a bit, hold on | 09:40 |
andyrock | gord, i'm doing the same thing | 09:41 |
andyrock | gord, so copying the init code in the dndsourcegetdatafortype | 09:43 |
andyrock | works well, but a question icon is displayed :) | 09:43 |
gord | andyrock, neat, what is the icon that has a question icon? typically means it couldn't find the icon in the theme or elsewhere | 09:44 |
gord | the icon loading code for dnd just isn't as robust as what we have for the rest of the dash | 09:45 |
andyrock | application-default-icon | 09:45 |
andyrock | i'will try to solve it... if i'm not able you will do it :) | 09:46 |
andyrock | gord, fixed ;) | 09:58 |
gord | andyrock, woo :) ping me when you have a mp and i'll take a look | 09:59 |
andyrock | maybe something more special could be done but who has time for special? | 09:59 |
andyrock | i have other fixes another branch about dnd | 10:00 |
andyrock | with two other fixes | 10:00 |
andyrock | i have to do another branch? | 10:00 |
gord | andyrock, please :) i can review this branch about the resultsview and then i'll give jason a poke about your other dnd related branches later | 10:01 |
andyrock | ok thx | 10:01 |
andyrock | gord, do not be frightened by the length of the patch | 10:38 |
andyrock | :) | 10:38 |
andyrock | https://code.launchpad.net/~andyrock/unity/dnd-dash-fixes/+merge/73013 | 10:38 |
andyrock | XD | 10:38 |
andyrock | the old nux worked as said few minutes ago, the new one not | 10:38 |
gord | yeah testing here it didn't work :) | 10:44 |
andyrock | gord, have you seen the patch? :) | 10:47 |
gord | andyrock, yeah, looks like a silly mistake that crept in last night as some changes were made :) | 10:48 |
andyrock | gord, i know... :) | 10:48 |
andyrock | no problem | 10:49 |
andyrock | you rock anyway | 10:49 |
fagan | I just installed oneiric on my netbook and the resolution is off | 11:41 |
fagan | some of the content is off the screen | 11:42 |
andyrock_ | seb128, what can we use to open the trash instead of xdg-open? | 11:56 |
andyrock_ | seb128, btw xdg-open trash:// | 11:59 |
andyrock_ | gvfs-open: trash://: error opening location: Operation not supported | 11:59 |
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jjardon | tedg: hey, any reason why the time label has to be updated through the service and not when the datetime menu is open ? | 14:32 |
jjardon | like the calendar widget? | 14:32 |
tedg | jjardon, Which label? The one on the panel? | 14:33 |
jjardon | tedg: no, the menu item | 14:33 |
tedg | jjardon, Because mixing standard menu items and dbusmenu items results in tears. | 14:34 |
tedg | jjardon, When the menu is resorted it doesn't know where to put the standard ones, so the result is confusing at best. | 14:34 |
tedg | jjardon, The cost of updating it is very cheap. | 14:34 |
om26er | gord, Hi! is there any chance we'll have bigger icon size in the result view for Unity? | 14:35 |
jjardon | tedg: oh, I see, but the problem is that the label is updated with a timeout set in this function: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-datetime/trunk/view/head:/src/datetime-service.c#L298 | 14:37 |
jjardon | but this causes problems when the user change the date manually or after a suspend cycle | 14:37 |
tedg | jjardon, That function can be called repeatedly though, so could it just be called in those cases? | 14:38 |
jjardon | tedg: yeah, but how can I know that the date changed? the changes in the panel are sent to through the SetTime signal, but the indicator datetime doesnt get notified | 14:40 |
tedg | jjardon, Listen to the same signal? It seems the service should be sending the UpdateTime() | 14:41 |
tedg | jjardon, So perhaps the service should be the one driving more. | 14:41 |
jjardon | tedg: mmm, the update of the menu item time is done in the service itself, not in the indicator | 14:45 |
Trevinho | Hi guys... I'm back! :) | 15:00 |
Trevinho | seb128: around? | 15:01 |
om26er | Trevinho, thats totally awesome ;) | 15:01 |
om26er | Trevinho, welcome back :) | 15:01 |
Trevinho | thanks om26er ;) | 15:01 |
kenvandine | welcome back Trevinho | 15:31 |
jjardon | tedg: so, What do you think is the best way to get notification in the service when the system time changes? to not relay on the timeouts? | 15:34 |
tedg | jjardon, Is there a signal from gsd? | 15:36 |
tedg | jjardon, Assuming someone set the time with gcc it seems we should be able to watch for it's signal if nothing else. | 15:37 |
seb128 | hey Trevinho | 15:40 |
jjardon | tedg: I'll take a llo to gsd, we can listen to SetTime, but that wouldnt work with the suspend problems | 15:41 |
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tedg | jjardon, I believe that upower gives us a signal on suspend | 15:41 |
tedg | jjardon, I don't remember if it's before or after, but if it's before we can just set a timer and wait for the time to be noncontiguous. | 15:42 |
jono | seb128, where should I file bugs for Unity for the design team to look at? | 15:48 |
jono | unity project? | 15:48 |
jono | or ayatana? | 15:48 |
seb128 | jono, the ayata-design project | 15:48 |
seb128 | jono, usually what others do is to open an unity bug, set it to incomplete and do "also affect" ayatana-design | 15:49 |
tedg | jono, Usually we have two bug tasks, on the SW project and one on ayatana-design. | 15:49 |
tedg | Yeah, like seb128 said. | 15:49 |
jono | seb128, thanks, will do that now | 15:49 |
jono | seb128, so the unity bug should be for the project, not the source package? | 15:49 |
seb128 | jono, we tend to do both | 15:50 |
seb128 | to keep things in sync | 15:50 |
jono | ok, so file it for the source package and then also affect unity (project) and ayatana-design | 15:50 |
seb128 | but either work | 15:50 |
seb128 | didrocks has a script that will sync the status between upstream and ubuntu unity | 15:50 |
seb128 | jono, correct | 15:50 |
jono | thanks seb128 | 15:51 |
seb128 | launchpad makes it suboptimal to trunk bugs for projects like unity or ubiquity or... | 15:51 |
seb128 | i.e things which basically are tracked by the same people upstream and in ubuntu | 15:51 |
jono | right | 15:52 |
nxvl | hi, i'm having an issue with unity, for some reason, when i open unity3D it seems to open (it even runs network-manager and connects me to the wifi) but i don't get the panels, just a nautilus menu bar and that's it | 15:54 |
nxvl | (i'm running oneiric) | 15:54 |
AlanBell | is the tablet PC with touchscreen a supported or targeted device for Oneiric? | 15:54 |
om26er | nxvl, can you open a terminal? | 15:57 |
nxvl | om26er: i can get a tty | 15:58 |
om26er | nxvl, Unity worked for you before the update or was it a new install ? | 15:58 |
nxvl | it worked until, like yesterday or a day before | 15:59 |
nxvl | unity2D works fine | 15:59 |
nxvl | gnome3 too | 15:59 |
Trevinho | Ah, hey kenvandine! | 15:59 |
Trevinho | seb128: about the nautilus thing.... | 15:59 |
om26er | nxvl, in a tty 'export DISPLAY=:0' | 15:59 |
Trevinho | What should I do? | 15:59 |
nxvl | i saw update-manager removing some unity package, (no idea which ones) and it never worked again | 15:59 |
om26er | nxvl, and unity --reset | 15:59 |
seb128 | Trevinho, what mpt suggested on the merge request seemed ok? | 15:59 |
nxvl | ok let me re-login | 15:59 |
om26er | nxvl, you could check if you have it actually installed | 16:00 |
jono | seb128, I need to file a bug in the indicator with my name on it - is that the Me Menu? | 16:00 |
nxvl | om26er: how? | 16:00 |
Trevinho | seb128: I've already added the unity support... | 16:00 |
nxvl | om26er: ubuntu-desktop is installed | 16:00 |
om26er | nxvl, maybe an update removed it, someone I known had a similar problem yesterday | 16:00 |
seb128 | jono, indicator-session | 16:00 |
Trevinho | so I should only disable the indicator... Isn't it? | 16:00 |
jono | thanks seb128 | 16:00 |
om26er | nxvl, try sudo apt-get install unity | 16:00 |
kenvandine | Trevinho, if you have any awesome, wild, crazy ideas for gwibber 3.4... feel free to start hacking on it :) | 16:01 |
nxvl | already in newest version | 16:01 |
Trevinho | kenvandine: I've some... But I've to sync with upstream yet... :P | 16:01 |
om26er | nxvl, then try unity --reset (did you happen to change anything in ccsm ?) | 16:01 |
Trevinho | You know, coming back is an hard resync time! :P | 16:01 |
nxvl | om26er: i did, while in natty | 16:02 |
om26er | nxvl, try the reset in a tty then | 16:02 |
AlanBell | I am looking at bug 739812 what would be required on a technical level to have an on-screen keyboard type into a dash or lens search field? | 16:02 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 739812 in unity "Must use hardware keyboard to perform search for applications in Unity" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/739812 | 16:02 |
AlanBell | would it need a new on screen keyboard to be written and rendered by NUX or something? | 16:03 |
jono | seb128, I filed the wider user-accounts issue as https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-session/+bug/834830 | 16:04 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 834830 in Session Menu "User accounts experience fragmented" [Undecided,New] | 16:04 |
seb128 | jono, ok | 16:04 |
jono | I am going to mail the design team about this | 16:04 |
seb128 | thanks | 16:04 |
seb128 | or email the ayatana list | 16:04 |
seb128 | brb | 16:05 |
nxvl | om26er: ok, running, does it take a while? | 16:05 |
nxvl | om26er: or it's having issues? | 16:05 |
nxvl | om26er: it claims that is not finding unity-panel-service | 16:06 |
om26er | nxvl, oh | 16:06 |
om26er | nxvl, after running unity --reset you did switch to the previous tty? | 16:07 |
nxvl | om26er: and it stops at kde4-window-decorators: could not enable decorators on :0-0 | 16:07 |
nxvl | om26er: define previuos tty | 16:07 |
om26er | nxvl, sudo apt-get install compiz-gnome | 16:07 |
jono | DBO did you manage to track down the Launcher issue? | 16:07 |
om26er | you seem to have removed compiz-gnome with some update | 16:07 |
nxvl | om26er: so i got a hanged unity on F7 i'm running the command on F1 and irc on F2 | 16:07 |
jono | for it not showing when you slowly touch the side of the screen? | 16:08 |
DBO | jono, everything but fix it | 16:08 |
jono | awesome | 16:08 |
jjohansen | what value is supposed to be in ccsm -> Window Decoration-> Command | 16:08 |
nxvl | om26er: yes, compiz-gnome wasn't installed | 16:08 |
om26er | jjohansen, /usr/bin/compiz-decorator | 16:08 |
jjohansen | om26er: thanks | 16:09 |
om26er | /usr/bin/gtk-window-decorator should work too | 16:09 |
om26er | jjardon, yw :0 | 16:09 |
om26er | * :) | 16:09 |
jjohansen | well that is just it, it doesn't I have no decorators | 16:09 |
nxvl | yay! i'm in unity once again | 16:10 |
jjohansen | nxvl: lucky, its still broken for me | 16:10 |
nxvl | jjohansen: yeah same here, it was just a couple of minutes of lies! | 16:11 |
nhaines | jono: +1 on that bug from me. :) | 16:12 |
jono | :-) | 16:12 |
jjohansen | nxvl: oh in that case I don't have hate you anymore, lies I can live with but unity working for you and not me is a bit much | 16:12 |
nxvl | jjohansen: i wasn't liying, unity lied to me pretending to be working just to crash 2 minutes after | 16:14 |
jjohansen | nxvl: oh! well even better ;) | 16:14 |
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nhaines | jono: do you have a couple minutes for me in PM right now? | 16:20 |
AlanBell | DBO: did you get somewhere with bug 739812? | 16:22 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 739812 in unity "Must use hardware keyboard to perform search for applications in Unity" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/739812 | 16:22 |
DBO | AlanBell, it's actively being worked on, I have done the part I could do (make it so that the dash doesn't grab mouse/keyboard) | 16:23 |
DBO | IM support in dash is up to the dash guys now (they have some test work done) | 16:24 |
jjardon | tedg: ok, so seems the proper solution is using this: http://lwn.net/Articles/432395/ | 16:24 |
jono | nhaines, sure | 16:24 |
nhaines | Thanks. | 16:26 |
tedg | jjardon, Is that in the Oneiric kernel? (it's git, so you have no idea what the version numbers mean :-) | 16:28 |
jjardon | tedg: good news, we will have api in glib for this soon. | 16:29 |
jjardon | I'll track the bug: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=655129 | 16:29 |
ubot5 | Gnome bug 655129 in general "GDateTime could provide api for implementing wall clocks" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 16:29 |
jjardon | For now we can watch for suspend changes and update the clock | 16:29 |
AlanBell | DBO: ok, thanks | 16:30 |
jono | DBO, quick q: the text in the dash, sometimes it is not particularly readable, any chance we could have a small black shadow behind it to make it stand out more? | 16:31 |
DBO | jono, if you pick a darker wallpaper is it better? | 16:31 |
jono | DBO, not tried, but I presume so | 16:33 |
DBO | jono, the dash needs to have a "max brightness" so it wont wash out the text | 16:34 |
DBO | it's known | 16:34 |
jono | DBO, I just figured a very thin black shadow (maybe only 2px) could solve that | 16:37 |
DBO | Im no designer | 16:38 |
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DBO | you mean give the text a shadow? | 16:38 |
DBO | noooooooooooo | 16:38 |
DBO | shadows are slow to draw for text (you have to trace) | 16:38 |
AlanBell | and they look blurry | 16:38 |
jjohansen | DBO: you don't have to trace, you can do the old draw and swear trick, but yeah they look blurry | 16:39 |
DBO | we dont do ugly | 16:40 |
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jo-erlend | some launcher tiles have numbers and other information on them to reflect the state of the application. How do I do this in Python? | 17:17 |
datenshi | jo-erlend: there are examples in libunity | 17:21 |
jo-erlend | datenshi, something a little more specific? | 17:22 |
jo-erlend | what is it called? What do I search for? Are there any written documentation for it? | 17:22 |
datenshi | bzr branch lp:libunity, there is examples folder | 17:23 |
jo-erlend | does that mean it has no name that I can refer to when talking about it? | 17:24 |
datenshi | jo-erlend: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/libunity/trunk/view/head:/examples/launcher.py | 17:24 |
jo-erlend | so it has no name and documentation? | 17:25 |
nhaines | Ooh, useful. | 17:26 |
jo-erlend | yes, very useful. But this is for a question on askubuntu and I'd like to refer to names or a documentation URL. | 17:26 |
jo-erlend | but if it doesn't exist, then it doesn't. | 17:26 |
nhaines | jo-erlend: well, that'd definitely be more useful. But unfortunately Canonical seems to like to leave the code as documentation. :/ | 17:27 |
nhaines | Can't say I'm not guilty of the same though. | 17:27 |
jono | DBO, who is working on the Music Lens? | 17:39 |
DBO | jono, lamalex | 17:40 |
jono | cool, I have found some bugs I am going to file | 17:40 |
jono | hmmm seems I can't do ubuntu-bug unity-music-lens | 17:41 |
jono | will report it at http://edition.cnn.com/2011/TECH/gaming.gadgets/08/25/linux.20/index.html | 17:41 |
jono | oops | 17:41 |
jono | not there | 17:41 |
jono | https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-music-lens/+filebug | 17:41 |
jono | lamalex, are you seeing https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-music-lens/+bug/834910 ? | 17:43 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 834910 in Unity Music Lens "Full music collection not shown" [Undecided,New] | 17:43 |
lamalex | jono, yah that's not a bug | 17:45 |
lamalex | i mean i guess it could be a "bug" | 17:45 |
jono | lamalex, what do you mean? | 17:45 |
lamalex | but it's in the code to limit to just a result set | 17:45 |
lamalex | it's limited to like 50 or 100 or something | 17:45 |
lamalex | jono, you should be able to search for any of it though | 17:45 |
jono | surely it should say Songs See 16,033 more results | 17:46 |
jono | right now it presents an inaccurate representation of the number of songs I have | 17:46 |
lamalex | yah i suppose | 17:47 |
jono | the searching does work wel | 17:47 |
jono | well | 17:47 |
lamalex | hah wtf i can't set bug priorities on my lens >:( | 17:48 |
jono | lamalex, is that the right project? | 17:48 |
jono | I see some pretty old comments on bugs in there | 17:48 |
jono | wasn't sure if it was a community project | 17:48 |
lamalex | ha oh | 17:49 |
lamalex | jono you're on the wrong one | 17:49 |
lamalex | this is going to be confusing | 17:49 |
lamalex | our lenses are of the form unity-lens-<title> | 17:49 |
lamalex | https://launchpad.net/unity-lens-music/ | 17:49 |
nhaines | ha! | 17:49 |
jono | lamalex, aha! | 17:50 |
jono | lamalex, you need to enable bug tracking there | 17:51 |
lamalex | just report it on the ubuntu package for no | 17:51 |
lamalex | w | 17:51 |
lamalex | i dont seem to have access to set up things on this project | 17:52 |
lamalex | dbarth, ^^ | 17:52 |
jono | will do lamalex | 17:53 |
jono | DBO, btw, I just filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/834921 | 17:53 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 834921 in unity (Ubuntu) "Significant lag when changing virtual desktops with the dash open" [Undecided,New] | 17:53 |
DBO | you can do that? | 17:54 |
DBO | why the hell are you changing virtual desktops with the dash open... | 17:54 |
DBO | you crazy | 17:54 |
lamalex | oh yeah look at all that lag | 17:54 |
lamalex | but yo | 17:54 |
jono | DBO :-) | 17:54 |
lamalex | you crazy dawg | 17:54 |
jono | I also noticed the same thing with the indicators and filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/834415 last night | 17:55 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 834415 in unity (Ubuntu) "Indicators lag when being displayed with the dash open" [Undecided,New] | 17:55 |
jono | sorry guys | 17:55 |
DBO | jono, thats it, I am not buying you beer next UDS | 17:57 |
jo-erlend | datenshi, thanks for the link and help :) | 17:57 |
jono | DBO lol | 17:57 |
jono | you never buy me beer anyway | 17:57 |
jono | :-) | 17:57 |
DBO | you never buy me the beers you said you owe me | 17:57 |
DBO | so I figure I can not buy you beers I dont owe you | 17:57 |
DBO | the fake beer economy can also have fake beer speculation | 17:58 |
jono | DBO, I will definitely buy you beer at UDS | 17:59 |
jono | lamalex, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-music/+bug/834928 | 17:59 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 834928 in unity-lens-music (Ubuntu) "Number of songs available not representative of actual number of songs" [Undecided,New] | 17:59 |
jono | lamalex, is the plan to show album art in the lens? | 17:59 |
lamalex | yes | 18:00 |
jono | cool | 18:00 |
lamalex | theres a branch | 18:00 |
jono | want me to file a bug for that? | 18:00 |
jono | ahhh sweet | 18:00 |
lamalex | waiting for a banshrr release with a patch | 18:00 |
jono | gotcha | 18:01 |
jono | lamalex, should clicking on an album load the full album into the queue in Banshee? | 18:02 |
jono | I just noticed another interesting bug | 18:05 |
om26er | lamalex, if i click on a song in the lens its added to the queue but shouldnt it play instantly? | 18:07 |
jono | lamalex, not sure if you saw https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-music/+bug/834933 too | 18:10 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 834933 in unity-lens-music (Ubuntu) "Clicking song/album in music lens loads in Banshee but does not focus on play queue" [Undecided,New] | 18:10 |
jono | om26er, I think that is a bug too, filing it | 18:11 |
om26er | i'll play the 'confirm' part ;-) | 18:12 |
om26er | could be the way banshee handles it though | 18:13 |
jono | om26er, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-music/+bug/834937 | 18:14 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 834937 in unity-lens-music (Ubuntu) "Clicking on a song or album does not play instantly" [Undecided,New] | 18:14 |
lamalex | jono, yah i have to patch banshee | 18:14 |
lamalex | banshee's kind of messed up there | 18:14 |
jono | I am filing one more bug and then should be done | 18:14 |
jono | these are all small issues | 18:14 |
jono | thanks lamalex | 18:14 |
lamalex | music lens is a focus for next week, but go nuts | 18:14 |
lamalex | give me a list of things to work on :) | 18:14 |
om26er | music lens is not up for bugs as well (yet) :/ | 18:15 |
lamalex | i know | 18:15 |
lamalex | dbarth, ^ please set up bugs for music lens | 18:15 |
lamalex | om26er, you can file on the ubuntu package though | 18:16 |
om26er | jono, thanks, confirmed :) | 18:16 |
jono | thanks om26er | 18:17 |
jono | ok I added https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-music/+bug/834943 | 18:17 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 834943 in unity-lens-music (Ubuntu) "Clicking a song or album does not switch to Banshee" [Undecided,New] | 18:17 |
jono | lamalex, om26er so the full bugs list is at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-music - would be cool if you could confirm and prioritize them | 18:18 |
jono | the music lens is gonna kick ass when it is working | 18:18 |
lamalex | jono, yah, will do on monday most likely | 18:18 |
jono | well, it works now, I mean these bugs are fixed | 18:18 |
jono | thanks lamalex :-) | 18:18 |
lamalex | yup! it's going to rock | 18:18 |
jono | grabbing lunch, biab | 18:22 |
DBO | jono, do we know anyone using a german keyboard? | 18:27 |
lamalex | all of germany | 18:32 |
jcastro | I'm going to go out on a limb and guess "Mirco" | 18:36 |
htorque_ | öäüß ;-) | 18:36 |
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DBO | htorque_, oh oh | 18:48 |
DBO | I need your help | 18:48 |
DBO | lp:~unity-team/unity/unity.keyboard-util | 18:48 |
DBO | get and build that branch | 18:48 |
DBO | then run tests/test-keyutil | 18:48 |
DBO | and give me the output | 18:49 |
htorque | DBO: on it | 18:49 |
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jono | DBO, yo | 21:28 |
DBO | hey jono | 21:28 |
jono | you know how I mentioned the readability of the text in the dash? | 21:28 |
jono | see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/835095 | 21:28 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 835095 in unity (Ubuntu) "Dash text unreadable with some wallpapers" [Undecided,New] | 21:28 |
jono | I added a screenshot there | 21:28 |
kenvandine | i really liked the dash better black | 21:29 |
kenvandine | playing with opacity is "cool" and all... but sometimes it just isn't the best way to solve the problem | 21:30 |
jono | I think it looks cool if it had an underlying blackness to it | 21:30 |
jono | and then mixed in the shade of your wallpaper | 21:30 |
jono | the effect of the wallpaper color does look cool | 21:30 |
kenvandine | yeah | 21:30 |
jono | just that some colors look weird as the base | 21:30 |
kenvandine | it just really needs to be darker i think | 21:30 |
jono | yup | 21:31 |
DBO | jono, release the bug report | 21:31 |
kenvandine | and maybe blur even more | 21:31 |
DBO | thats how you report a design bug | 21:31 |
jono | DBO, release what? | 21:31 |
DBO | reload | 21:31 |
DBO | sorry | 21:31 |
DBO | my brain has given up | 21:31 |
jono | DBO why is it incomplete? | 21:32 |
DBO | because its a design problem | 21:32 |
DBO | so in unity its incomplete | 21:32 |
jono | surely it should be Confirmed then? | 21:32 |
DBO | in ayatana-design it's new | 21:32 |
kenvandine | jono, he is saying that isn't a unity bug, it is a design choice | 21:32 |
DBO | yeah | 21:33 |
kenvandine | so we need to plead to them | 21:33 |
jono | right | 21:33 |
jono | but the bug is still confirmed in Unity though | 21:33 |
jono | it is not incomplete | 21:33 |
DBO | not a bug | 21:33 |
jono | look at the screenshot | 21:33 |
jono | it's a bug :-) | 21:33 |
DBO | not a bug | 21:33 |
kenvandine | if design changes their mind, we re-open the unity task | 21:33 |
DBO | that is how it was designed | 21:33 |
kenvandine | to fix it | 21:33 |
jono | I think it wasn't designed to have the effect in the screenshot | 21:33 |
jono | I think it was designed to have the effect if you have the purple wallpaper | 21:33 |
DBO | jono, they gave use the exact color algorithm to use | 21:34 |
jono | therefore it is a bug | 21:34 |
DBO | we told them it would let it go too bright | 21:34 |
jono | DBO do you honestly think the design team desire the effect in the screenshot? | 21:34 |
DBO | they did not change it | 21:34 |
jono | I am not denying it is a design problem, but I disagree it is not a Unity bug - it makes the dash unreasonable | 21:34 |
DBO | I have no choice but to believe that | 21:34 |
DBO | we told them | 21:35 |
jono | as such it should be marked as Complete | 21:35 |
jono | dude, come on | 21:35 |
kenvandine | jono, but it isn't something the unity team can fix | 21:35 |
jono | they dont want it that way | 21:35 |
DBO | dude, I showed them | 21:35 |
jono | kenvandine, I agree it is a design problem | 21:35 |
jono | not disagreeing | 21:35 |
jono | and they should provide a solution | 21:35 |
jono | full agreement there | 21:35 |
kenvandine | jono, it is effectively blocked on design right now | 21:35 |
jono | I take issue though that this is not a bug in Unity | 21:35 |
htorque_ | isn't that a dupe anyway? bug 824916 | 21:35 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 824916 in unity (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Dash is way too transparent, unsuitable for light & monochrome desktops" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824916 | 21:35 |
jono | htorque ahhh oops :-) | 21:36 |
DBO | jono, it's not marked invalid | 21:36 |
DBO | it's marked incomplete | 21:36 |
jono | DBO, right, but the bug is complete, the solution is not complete though | 21:36 |
DBO | incomplete on unity means DX cant fix it for some reason | 21:36 |
DBO | erm more accurately | 21:36 |
DBO | it means DX cant fix it because some information about how to fix it is missing | 21:36 |
DBO | (more than just coding/technical issues) | 21:37 |
jono | DBO, well that is inconsistant with most other triage as incomplete means the bug report needs more info to determine if it is actually a bug | 21:37 |
DBO | yeah but we're inconsistent in the fact that the people who design the product are not on the same team as the people who make the product | 21:38 |
jono | thats not the point though | 21:38 |
jono | again, I sympathize with the team issues | 21:38 |
jono | and I sympathize you need input from design | 21:38 |
jono | but marking the bug as incomplete is not accurate | 21:38 |
jono | and thinking that they deliberately want it that way in the screenshot seems misguided to me | 21:38 |
jono | I Think they dont intend it that way | 21:39 |
jono | but they didnt listen to your guidance and warnings | 21:39 |
kenvandine | not invalid or anything... | 21:39 |
kenvandine | just need them to decide | 21:39 |
jono | right | 21:39 |
jono | wasnt there gonna be a NEEDSDESIGN status? | 21:39 |
jono | or could it be marked Complete and tagged with needsdesign ? | 21:40 |
jono | anyway, it's up to you guys, just my $0.02c | 21:40 |
DBO | if design says to me to keep the algorithm when I ask them tomorrow | 21:40 |
jono | it's your bug :-) | 21:40 |
DBO | I will mark it wishlist | 21:40 |
DBO | if they say to modify it, they will prioritize their bug | 21:40 |
DBO | and fix it | 21:40 |
jono | DBO, if they deliberately reject that it is a bug, then we will have a different conversation | 21:40 |
jono | makes sense | 21:40 |
jono | remember, we are all on the same team here :-) | 21:41 |
jono | anyway, I have to run, thanks guys | 21:41 |
jono | Unity is rocking :-) | 21:41 |
DBO | then when they fix release their stuff to us, we mark confirmed | 21:41 |
DBO | and then we need a UI freeze exception | 21:41 |
DBO | (which we wont get) | 21:41 |
DBO | so yeah :) | 21:41 |
DBO | fun fun fun | 21:41 |
kenvandine | DBO, you would for this | 21:41 |
DBO | kenvandine, depends on timing | 21:42 |
kenvandine | it isn't really going to break translations or terribly affect screenshots | 21:42 |
DBO | sure but in 4 days is final freeze | 21:42 |
DBO | design team turn around is not 4 days short | 21:42 |
kenvandine | you just can't wait for design to notice the bug | 21:42 |
kenvandine | someone needs to ping them | 21:42 |
DBO | I pinged them today, yesterday, and last week | 21:42 |
DBO | how many times can I do that? | 21:42 |
DBO | so has gord | 21:43 |
DBO | actually I dont know if gord has but I assume it is so | 21:43 |
kenvandine | DBO, i understand... the workflow is a bit broken | 21:43 |
kenvandine | just you can't assume they will see the bug.. | 21:44 |
kenvandine | jono, that screenshot looks terrible dude | 21:44 |
DBO | one more tiny issue | 21:44 |
DBO | final freeze is monday | 21:44 |
DBO | right? | 21:44 |
DBO | erm whoa | 21:44 |
kenvandine | we should mark the bug invalid and say you aren't using the default wallpaper | 21:44 |
DBO | I am off by a month | 21:44 |
kenvandine | DBO, no | 21:45 |
kenvandine | it isn't even beta yet | 21:45 |
DBO | sorry, I am very tired :( | 21:45 |
DBO | and compiz wont do as I tell it | 21:45 |
kenvandine | DBO, we are in beta freeze now :) | 21:45 |
kenvandine | does it ever? | 21:45 |
DBO | yes | 21:45 |
DBO | frequently | 21:45 |
DBO | but right now | 21:45 |
DBO | it hates me | 21:45 |
kenvandine | well i am outta here... have a great weekend guys | 21:45 |
nhaines | kenvandine: \o_ | 21:46 |
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DBO | htorque, present? | 22:30 |
htorque | DBO: ya | 22:31 |
DBO | htorque, please pull the branch again | 22:32 |
DBO | and test | 22:32 |
DBO | rev 1406 is what you want | 22:32 |
DBO | htorque, also, if you are wondering, yes, it took me THAT long to fix | 22:38 |
DBO | KILL me | 22:38 |
htorque | poor you :-) | 22:38 |
htorque | DBO: \o/ | 22:39 |
htorque | sweet | 22:39 |
DBO | htorque, please leave a note here that you have tested and confirmed this working: https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/unity.keyboard-util/+merge/73116 | 22:39 |
htorque | DBO: if it should fail to get a preview of the window, that's not to fix in that feature, right? | 22:42 |
DBO | htorque, is that window maybe minimized? | 22:43 |
DBO | basically, right now, NEVER restart compiz with a minimized window | 22:43 |
htorque | no no, that was just hypothetical | 22:43 |
DBO | no its not related | 22:43 |
DBO | but, that shouldn't happen anymore | 22:43 |
DBO | unless you restart compiz with a minimized window | 22:43 |
DBO | (compiz wont see the window) | 22:43 |
DBO | and then all sorts of funny things happen | 22:44 |
DBO | we of course need to fix that | 22:44 |
htorque | ok, in that case i'll add the comment :) | 22:44 |
DBO | thanks :) | 22:46 |
DBO | htorque, do you also do community code reviews? | 22:47 |
htorque | nope, just testing | 22:48 |
htorque | and i already broke it: with two terminals opened, run "sleep 5 ; exit" in one and initiate the preview → unity crashes | 22:48 |
DBO | haha | 22:49 |
DBO | thats not related to this | 22:49 |
DBO | but okay | 22:49 |
DBO | I'll fix it :) | 22:49 |
DBO | thanks, I never even thought to try something silly like that | 22:49 |
htorque | i'm a living fuzzy testing tool ;-) | 22:50 |
DBO | I like it | 22:50 |
DBO | do you use the blur? | 22:50 |
htorque | yeah | 22:50 |
DBO | does it hurt your performance? | 22:51 |
DBO | when the launcher is blurring | 22:51 |
htorque | there was a recent commit that made things much better | 22:51 |
htorque | wouldn't call it a problem anymore | 22:51 |
htorque | heh, i'm loving that feature! wouldn't have used it with the down arrow but accessing it with one hand = win. | 22:55 |
htorque | DBO: you earned your weekend! ;-) i'm off, cya! | 22:55 |
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