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DaskreechnewWorldX: Which country is that?00:00
DaskreechYou can probably getsome from MIT's open courseware00:00
newWorldXTurkey00:00
newWorldXmit has ethical hacking coursewares for free00:00
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DaskreechI think so00:00
newWorldXor open to non students00:00
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newWorldXwhere are u located00:00
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FloodBotK1newWorldX: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:00
newWorldXDaskreech please any ideas where on the site I can get them from please00:02
newWorldX?00:02
DaskreechHold on00:02
newWorldXDaskreech: please any ideas where on the site I can get them from please00:02
newWorldXokay00:02
newWorldXthanks00:02
Daskreechhttp://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/00:04
DaskreechThey have on ethics, legal, network and computer security00:04
newWorldXDaskreech: thanks00:35
newWorldXso where are you at00:35
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DaskreechnewWorldX: Jamaica00:35
newWorldXDaskreech: thats quiet far so whats your feild?00:36
newWorldXfield*00:36
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DaskreechProgramming00:36
newWorldXokay00:36
newWorldXplease tell me you have a security cert00:36
newWorldXdid not really get books on ethical hacking00:38
newWorldXDaskreech: because I am thinking of sitting for a certification examination soon. Really would want to have a good background in the field00:39
DaskreechnewWorldX: No I don't00:43
FirefisheI have a new install of kubuntu 11.04.  I am having terrible problems with X and the nvidia-current (proprietary) driver, both 173 and the 'recommended' one.  Under certain conditions, when I resize konsole, that action causes the entire computer to freeze, forcing me to hard-reboot.  Is this a known problem?00:56
newWorldXEthical hackers in here please!!!00:57
SubCoolcan somone help me install kubuntu onto a USB? I would like to run linu FROM the USB01:03
bazhang!ot | newWorldX01:03
ubottunewWorldX: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!01:03
bazhangSubCool, use unetbootin01:03
SubCooli think i have heard of that..01:04
SubCooli just used to startup-disk creator. what a pain..01:04
SubCoolis there a guide i can use? To setup admin and such?01:05
SubCoolcan anyone point me in towards any advice for running Kubuntu off of the USB drive? Everything i come across brings up the LIVE USB, but the live usb really doesnt last long when being used as an operating system.01:18
bazhang!usb | SubCool check the last link01:19
ubottuSubCool check the last link: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent01:19
SubCooljust brings me back to Unetbootin01:22
SubCoolalthough there are some nice text based walkthroughs that are very confusing.01:22
SubCoolhaha- this is surprisingly hard.01:31
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SubCoolok, the ubuntu guys arent helping.. um- after creating a USB Kubuntu with unetbootin, do i HAVE to reboot the system for which i created the USB on?02:09
ardenAnyone here working with LinuxMCE-rc1 ?02:09
claydohSubCool: yes02:12
claydohbut using unetootin, it is still the same as a livecd02:12
SubCoolright, but will the unetbootin allow me to use it like a normal install?02:13
claydoh no02:13
bazhanghttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent  SubCool I directed you to this link earlier02:13
bazhangSubCool, and you are crossposting, getting answers in both channels, please dont02:14
claydohSubCool: if you have a larger flash drive, and use usb-creator, it can create the persistence file system as bazhang mentions02:14
SubCooli wasnt getting answers in either..02:14
bazhangSubCool, I personally have answered you in both, so yes you were02:14
SubCooland im still having issues..02:14
SubCoolya, but with the same answer.. im running intot he same problem02:15
claydohSubCool: that way any settings you edit/create stay around for the next boot02:15
SubCoolim looking for more answers02:15
SIR_Tacooh... this is fun... where's my popcorn?02:15
bazhangthen read the link as I suggested some time ago02:15
SubCoolI have viewed the link02:15
SubCoolall the way to the bottom02:15
SIR_Tacoviewed = read?02:15
SubCoolmost of the guides are out dated, or not for the use i am intending02:15
SubCoolthe end goes on to the same thign as the unetboot02:16
SubCoolbut, after installing it- for the second time; i am trying to make sure i dont mess anything up... since the first instance didnt work02:16
SubCoolwhile doing that- i am asking some normal questions to make sure im not wasting my time.02:16
SubCoolah ha- for instance, THIS tie i have a unetbootin menu. Last time i only got "default"02:17
SIR_Tacowhy not just use the "create usb image" option?02:19
SubCooli have, multiple times. It works for the first couple runs, but after updating it- it usually crashes02:20
SubCoolkinda the otherpart of my bothersome messages. Im trying to use this as a reusable boot drive with files i can keep on hand Like BitDefender. But every time i crate a bootable liveUSB, something updates and kills the jump drive.02:21
SIR_TacoSubCool: ok, maybe we're talking about two different things.... I mean in Kubuntu (and Ubuntu as far as I know) there is an option to create a USB stick image...02:21
SubCoolya, i usually use that02:22
SIR_TacoAnd the kubuntu USB image option works?02:22
SubCoolum- liveUSB creator? ya..02:23
SIR_TacoSubCool: ok.... so what's the problem?02:23
SubCoolwell, keeping a persistant bootable drive without failure. i just setup a user/pass - set the root password.. and about to update it. Lets see if it works.02:25
bazhangthere is not a root password SubCool02:25
SubCoolnow there is02:26
SubCoolatleast one i know. That is usually anotre problem. Attempting to install programs without knowing the default root password02:26
SubCooland enter nothing when it prompts doesnt work02:26
bazhangthats what sudo is for02:26
SubCoolya,02:27
SubCoolthat02:27
bazhangthere is zero reason to ever set a root password02:27
SubCool::shrugs::02:27
SubCoolevery time i install/update things, and not have a Sudo password or some type of password, when i reboot- im locked out02:28
SIR_Tacook... I don't know how to put this other than: unetbootin, is not a part of any distribution that I know of, it is also thus not supported by any distribution I know of... perhaps you should ask the people that make it?02:30
bazhang!info unetbootin02:31
ubottuunetbootin (source: unetbootin): installer of Linux/BSD distributions to a partition or USB drive. In component universe, is optional. Version 471-2ubuntu1 (natty), package size 276 kB, installed size 820 kB02:31
AlexZionhi everyone, how can I check the GPU I'm running right now  !?!, I'm trying to configure my new laptop ...02:31
bazhangSIR_Taco, see above02:31
SIR_TacoI stand corrected02:32
SubCoolSIR_Taco, its not really a netboot - blah. its particulars that are involved in Kubuntu. Settings, and such.02:33
SubCoollets see how this goes, i just setup a userPW, rootPW, bitdefender, and a system update.02:35
bazhangbitdefender?02:37
bazhangsounds like a windows install02:38
StepNjumphow to increase the brightness on kubuntu please02:38
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SubCoolbazhang, ya, im gonna be using it to fix a few computers..02:45
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SubCoolpoint proven... - i cant get the USB to boot. lol...03:10
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SubCoolcan i boot off a 9.04 ubuntu, and have it jump to my USB?03:22
SubCoolnvm- im sure that is a hard, annoying request for what im doing..03:23
aLeSDhi all05:54
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tdnI have just attached a USB mouse, however, it does not seem to work: The cursor does not move when the mouse has been inserted. The touchpad works. The mouse works fine in other computers though. How do I fix this? This is what is written in dmesg when inserting the mouse: http://paste.adora.dk/P2142.txt06:39
kyubutsuavoid crossposting06:50
kyubutsu!crossposting06:50
ubottuPlease don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support.06:50
benjamin_hi06:58
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cherKubuntu is completely messed up after the latest X.org update.08:59
cherWhen I login for the first time after a reboot, the mouse no longer works. I can move the cursor, but KDE doesn't respond to mouse events. Only activating the kde menu works, but it's not even possible to run an application from the kde menu with the mouse.09:00
cherAnd when I do a sudo service kdm restart, the WLAN no longer works.09:01
cherThis is terrible. Kubuntu has just rendered itself completely unusable for normal users that don't know to Ctrl+Alt+F1, login, export DISPLAY=:0.0 and start apps from there.09:01
cherHonestly, guys, Kubuntu has serious quality control issues!09:02
cherI guess what works is to not log into kdm at first, but first do a sudo service kdm restart, and then log into Kubuntu. Then both, mouse and WLAN should work. But guys, this can't be it!09:04
cherNow imagine I install Kubuntu on my mother's PC. What should I do? I could choose between having an insecure systems without updates, or a non-usable systems because of the poor quality which leads updates to break the system.09:05
James147cher: so far you are the only person I have seen with this problem ^^ suggesting its your setup not kubuntu... seconds, have you tried creating a new user and seeintg if its a problem for them?09:06
cherJames147: I could. But I am using Linux to NOT be forced to reboot my machine every few seconds.09:08
cherJames147: Also, my Setup has not changed. I ran sudo apt-get upgrade yesterday, seeing X.org was updated. Today I logged in and now I have this problem. I already did reboot, and the problem is reproducable.09:09
cherI can't even download another distro from the UI because the mouse does't work and most websites have awful keyborad control.09:10
cherAnd why should it be the user account anyway, if the mouse works after I did a sudo service kdm restart...09:10
James147the new user is to rukle out the user's configs as the source of the problem... and I never said anything about rebooting...09:12
cherDoesn't logging out and into a new user start a fresh instance of X?09:13
cherAnyway, I'll try. Although I'm so angry on Kubuntu that I'm seriously considering switching to LFS for servers and Open SuSE for desktops now.09:15
alvinMaybe you're missing some packages?09:21
cherOkay, I've done 40 minutes of testing now and found several new bugs.09:55
cher1. When I create a new user using the KDE system control panel, the user's group has no name: user "testuser", uid 1001, gid 1001, but the group has no name. This was reproducable with testuser2.09:56
cher2. Changing the groups name with the KDE system control panel does not work. I had to sudo vi /etc/group to give the group the appropriate name (name of the user).09:57
cher3. The first time X.org runs after reboot, there is this problem that the mouse cursor moves but still the mouse does not really work. This is independent of the user: I could reproduce it with all 3 user accounts that I tried for this. I had to use a console and do sudo service kdm restart to restart kdm / KDE. After that, it always worked.09:58
cherPlus, the mouse already fails in the kdm login screen. I don't need to login a user account to see that there is this mouse issue.09:58
cherAnother new bug that I've found: approximately every third reboot, after some time during startup, I guess it is when X.org starts, the system crashes, with Scroll Lock and Caps Lock blinking.09:59
cherAnd it is reproducable that only the first user that logs in after a reboot can use WLAN.10:00
cher5th bug that I found just now: When I created a new user, and the new user logs in a first time, the user is forced to change the password (good). But the password change dialog does not accept any input (bad).10:02
cherI had to login on a console, or use sudo passwd username to make it possible for the new user to log in.10:02
tsimpsoncher: bug reports should be on Launchpad, not IRC10:04
chertsimpson: I was discussing this problem with James147 before.10:05
tsimpsoncher: sure, but unless you actually file the bugs on Launchpad, they won't get the proper attention10:08
g0thhi10:20
g0thhow do I enable nvidia 3d vision on linux?10:20
g0thI have an nvidia geforce gtx 260 card, I tried selecting 120Hz in nvidia-settings but it only shows up to 60Hz, no 120Hz to select10:21
g0thany ideas?10:21
g0thThe current cables are version 1.3(b?) is this the reason 120Hz does not show up?10:21
contrastGreets, everyone... Am I missing something, or is KAlarm the *only* component in the latest release of KDE-PIM (4.7) that's capable of waking the system from sleep?10:27
chercontrast: From your question, do I guess correctly that Wake-On-LAN is not an option for you?10:31
contrastcher: well, it could be on *another* system for a completely different purpose, but yeah, that's an accurate guess (here's where i *would* love to get WOL working, since you brought it up - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11084532 :-) )10:33
alvincher, tsimpson. Don't forget project timelord! Packaging and Ubuntu bugs go to Launchpad, all KDE stuff is for http://bugs.kde.org10:37
contrastcher: any ideas what might be causing the issue described in that link? since you brought up WOL, i'm hoping against all hope that you might be well-versed in it. :-D10:38
contrastneed sleep. g'nite, everyone.10:47
delightprevious versions of the dragon-player remembered the position you stoped a movie ... in 4.6 (Kubuntu 11.04) it is not. Is there a way to activate this ?11:56
cuznt!botsnack12:23
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!12:23
BluesKajHowdy folks12:49
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oratedHi BluesKaj12:59
BluesKajhi orated12:59
oratedBluesKaj: I've a query regarding network management. http://imagebin.org/169730 . I've done ping test  and  I'm connected to IRC through same network. I've no other interface enabled. I saw in System Monitor, it reports received.sent data correctly. But only the network management is not working right.. Can you help me out?13:01
james1479orated: "connection stat: unmanaged" networkmanager isnt handleing the connection13:02
oratedjames1479: Yes, that is strange. I'm not able to understand that ..13:03
james1479orated: have you configured the network using anything else?13:03
james1479(ie editing /etc/network/interfaces )13:03
oratedBut it actually is. I've WiFi disabled and system monitor shows activity only for ethernet13:03
james1479orated: just because networkmanager isn’t handling the connection doesn’t mean it isn’t being handled13:04
oratedI'm not sure. I've only tried to delete auto eth0 and made new as per required connection settings. Later, deleted that as well13:06
james1479orated: in /etc/network/interfaces?13:06
oratedSonope13:06
orateder13:07
oratednope13:07
oratedjames1479: What's should be default test for it?13:07
oratedwhat*13:07
oratedjames1479: What should be the default text in it?13:07
james1479orated: what does yours have in it?13:09
james1479!pastebin13:09
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.13:09
james1479(cant remember the default settings)13:09
oratedjames1479: http://paste.kde.org/114535/13:30
delightsomebody ??? previous versions of the dragon-player remembered the position you stoped a movie ... in 4.6 (Kubuntu 11.04) it is not. Is there a way to activate this ?13:31
james1479orated: looks like the default one to me :S ... if you deleted the config in network manager then why not add a new one?13:31
oratedjames1479: I deleted then added new, still the same thing13:31
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puneis there a setting somewhere in KDE/kubuntu to make the interface more "draggier and droppier"?  on my other PC that is using gnome, i can drag and drop the items in the task bar and re-arrange them.  and i can drag the tabs in firefox to rearrange them.  but on the computer im at now, with kubuntu 11.04, i cant drag these things13:46
BluesKajpune, click on the cashew in the panel on the far right, that opens it for dragging and dropping13:47
james1479pune: for the taskbar :: Right click the task bar > task manager settigns >  > change "sorting" to "Manually"13:49
james1479then you should be able to drag to rearange them13:49
james1479with firefox... i have no clue... you shouldbe able to if you can in gnome13:50
punewoot.  thanks for that13:50
james1479(I can with chrome)13:50
punehmm.  firefox wasnt letting me do it a minute ago, but it is now after i changed the taskbar sorting.  i dont know if they were related or its just a fluke13:51
puneso 2 birds with 1 stone then :)13:51
james1479pune: they are not realted... or shouldnnt be13:51
puneok, next question then.  when i drag a file or folder into the terminal, in every other OS ive used, it inserts the space followed by the filename.  in KDE, it just inserts the filename with no space.  any clue how to make it add that space for me?13:53
punesorry, it should insert the filename and THEN the space13:53
james1479pune: dont think you can change that ^^ (at least I dont know where it could be)... if its really a big issue to you would can file a bug report13:54
punewhich package would i file it under?13:55
james1479oooo... :) not sure, konsole I would think, that handles the dropping at least13:56
james1479pune: question is should it be added on the drag or the drop? Don't think it should be on the drag as it might mess with other programs13:57
punei would assume its just the drop13:58
james1479pune: yeah, so I think konsole would be responsible for that (or at least the konsole kpart)13:59
james1479delight: easy or not best to file a bug report and make the whole process even simpler (kde would be allot less intuitive if no one ever filed a bug report)14:12
delighttrue14:12
delightat the end there are a million things to tweak to make kde more intuitive, so rich of features I love ... I think kde could do much better with better pre-settings ... be way more intuitive14:12
delightlet it be part of some polishing14:12
delightor having a tool to get such configs ready and shareable would be great14:12
james1479delight: best way to get changes to happen is to file bug reports :)14:12
delight;)14:12
james1479(or even better, file a bug report with a patch)14:12
delighthehe14:12
bazhangthere are wishlist bugs as well14:12
delightwell I do that, but I'm just a java/groovy dev ...14:12
james1479delight: and not doing anything will mean things dont change... :)14:12
bazhangand of course !brainstorm14:12
delighteverything else is out of my range ... maybe web-dev ... thats about it14:13
delightunfortunatly14:13
bazhangwhich they actually read14:13
puneok, bug report filed.  now the waiting...14:19
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FloodBotK1!netsplit14:36
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit14:36
kriseHello guys14:37
kriseIneed to install tar.gz file14:38
kriseca anbody give me step by step help14:38
krisesmartcard reader drivers14:38
james1479krise: linux dosnt have a concept of installing a tar.gz file ^^ its jsut a compressed archive like a .zip14:38
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james1479krise: and what makes you think you need them? most smartcard readers should just work14:40
kriseHi james147914:41
krisemy reader dont work14:41
krisesupport guys told me o install this files14:41
james1479krise: define "dont work" ^^ what are you expecting to happen and what actually happens?14:41
krisewhen the reader is pluged in, the light is on bt it says no card insertedä14:42
krisecard software is installed corectly14:43
james1479what exactly is telling you there is no card inserted?14:43
kriseid card utility14:44
krisewhen im open the uility, there is big red text no cardreader conected14:45
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krisecard reader is cardman 102114:46
genii-aroundjames1479: His pastebins from yesterday: -lsusb- http://paste.ubuntu.com/674737/ and -unplug/replug reader dmesg- http://paste.ubuntu.com/674738/14:48
krisehelo genii-around14:48
kriseigot the card software perectly installed14:48
krisenow i eed to install cardreader drivers14:49
krisei got the tar.gz file where is many files inide14:49
james1479krise: any "README" or "INSTALL" file?14:50
krisethere s install ile14:50
krisefile14:50
* james1479 suggest reading it14:51
krisehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/675302/14:51
krisethis comes up when i klick the install file14:51
krisehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/675304/14:53
krisethis is readme14:53
james1479krise: then open a terminal cd to where you extracted it and run ./install14:54
krisehow do i doo it?      cd/home/krise/id  ?15:00
genii-aroundProbably with a space between the cd and the /home/krise/id part :)15:01
krisethats better :)15:02
krisehow i doomy next step15:03
james1479krise: type "./install"15:03
james1479then hit enter ^^ (without quotes)15:03
krisehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/675311/15:05
kriseim not sure it woked15:06
kriseworked15:06
james1479krise: it didnt, try "sudo ./install"15:06
krisehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/675314/15:07
james1479krise: now see if it works ^^15:07
krisesure it works, i got professional hlp :)15:08
krisethanks james1497 and geii-around15:09
kriseonly problem it dont work with chromium, only with firefox15:12
krisebut thats  small problem15:12
genii-around!helpersnack | james147915:12
ubottujames1479: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!15:12
* james1479 waits to receive his cookie....15:13
genii-aroundHeh15:13
james1479genii-around: :)15:13
krisehere is your cookie15:16
krisehttp://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=17577952245013115:16
james1479http://www.facebook.com/login.php  :(15:16
kriseprobarly u need to be logged in15:17
james1479thats kinda hard when i dont ahve an account15:18
krisei ques so15:18
BluesKajBBL ...15:46
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westlockwhere does network manager store its settings?17:39
genii-aroundProbably .kde/share/config/networkmanagementrc17:41
bulldog98westlock: /etc/NetworkManager17:42
genii-aroundI always just have mine manually set in /etc/network/interfaces17:46
westlockYeah likewise gennii-around17:49
westlockthing is I have this network manager globe on my taskbar and it is doing Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0.Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0.Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0.17:50
K350On my panel it says I've 12 (!) desktiops. How do I correct this?17:55
K350According to my panel I've 12 (!) desktops. How/where do I correct this?18:02
genii-aroundAre you sure you don't just have the pager installed 3 times with only 4 actual desktops?18:05
yofelK350: right click on the pager -> pager settings -> virtual desktop -> number of desktops | what does that say?18:05
K350genii-around: Hm, that sounds more likely. But I've no idea. How to check?18:07
K350genii-around: ah..sorry I'm slow today:-)18:07
genii-aroundK350: To do as yofel requested. If only 4 actual desktops, whatever instance of the pager you do the operation on will tell you the number of desktops18:07
yofelthe default should be 2, so 12 sounds a bit excessive...18:08
K350genii-around: Ok. I've 4 desktops - done in compiz - so...now I'll check the pager...18:09
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K350genii-around: My desktop freezed. But it's all allright again. Logged in here again to get a chanse to thank you fro your help. Really apruciated, reallly!:-)18:32
* genii-around shuffles it over to yofel18:33
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shane2peruanyone know how to share a 3g usb internet connection with eth0 wired to router to share to a lan?  I found a few wireless guides, which seems more complex than a sharing through eth018:44
genii-around!ics18:58
ubottuIf you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing18:58
K3500~/c19:06
shane2perugenii-around: thanks!!!19:07
genii-aroundshane2peru: You're welcome19:07
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SubCoolAnyone with LiveUSB-Persistence usage??20:18
DaskreechSubCool: Make space for it on the USB20:22
araramaHi, my old system crashed and I've simply moved its hard drive to a different system. How do I get X back online? I'm now stuck on the commandline.20:23
SubCoolya, i have. but every time i make a liveusb, and setup the passwords- it craps out. if i dont setup the passwords, i get locked out after reboot20:23
ararama(no CD drive on this system either, unfortunately)20:23
genii-aroundThe second box booted the old drive up, but to command-line?20:24
araramagenii-around: yep20:25
genii-aroundararama: Can it ping an online address?20:25
araramagenii-around: networking is working fine etc. I just would like to get display back up (although it really isn't critical)20:25
araramagenii-around: yep20:26
genii-aroundararama: Did you have some proprietary driver on the old box like fglrx or nvidia, which does not apply to the hardware in this box? If so maybe check the xorg.conf file20:26
araramagenii-around: possibly. There's no tool to regenerate the xorg.conf file? oslt?20:27
genii-aroundararama: Alternately you could just mv it someplace20:27
genii-aroundThen to try sudo initctl restart kdm20:27
araramatrying now20:28
araramagenii-around: worked like a charm. Thanks :)20:32
genii-aroundararama: You're welcome20:32
araramagenii-around: I don't see a regenerated xorg.conf though. Any way to save the current config?20:33
DaskreechNever tried with passwords20:35
genii-aroundararama: If no X sessions are running: X -configure        will put one in the directory you run that20:38
araramagenii-around: I just restarted the box and it seems that I don't need one or that it uses the last working copy.20:39
araramaI'll leave it as it is for now. Don't fix what's not broken and so on :)20:39
araramagenii-around: Many thanks for the help!20:39
genii-aroundararama: The xorg.conf is deprecated anyhow, mostly just used when specific driver needs to be used or given options20:39
mashcraftany one any good with .htaccess rewrite rules20:43
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g0thhi20:48
g0thI have an nvidia geforce gtx 260, how do I enable nvidia 3d vision in kubuntu?20:48
genii-aroundg0th: The 3D Vision links on Nvidias site only show the Quadras as being supported : http://www.nvidia.com/object/quadro_pro_graphics_boards_linux.html20:53
g0thare you sure?20:55
g0thhow do I get 120 Hz working first?21:01
g0ththe signal is routed through an amplifier21:01
g0ththe "amp" is recognized as the display21:01
g0thshowing only 60 Hz21:01
g0thI will restart X with the monitor directly connected to the pc, save the edid, reconnect it to the amp and use the saved edid21:03
g0ththat might work21:03
avihayI want to get temperture readings from the motherboard built in sensors, but /proc/acpi/thermal_zone is empty. don't know where to look, any advice?21:07
TommyMann@anyone: half the time I have no sound, I checked alsamixer and everything is on and turned to max21:14
TommyMannbut I have no sound21:14
TommyMannany tech supporty types on?21:15
SubCoolok, is there a way to boot off a LiveCD, but then refer to the USB?21:19
genii-aroundavihay: If you type: sensors       does it give a couple readings?21:19
avihayTommyMann: please provide more info,  what version of kubuntu do you have (lsb_release -a). in newer versions of kubuntu, there has been a move from alsa to pulseaudio21:20
avihaygenii-around: where?21:20
genii-aroundavihay: In Konsole21:20
avihayalso, any coffee left?21:20
TommyMannavihay: 11.0421:20
* genii-around slides avihay a nice delicious coffee21:20
avihaythanks genii, I have no programm named sensors. sudo apt-get install lm-sensors?21:22
avihayTommyMann: yes, by default you have pulseaudio installed21:22
genii-aroundavihay: Yep21:22
avihaywill it be kind enough to add itself to the procfs?21:23
TommyManntommy@Displacer-Beast:~$ pulseaudio21:23
TommyMannE: pid.c: Daemon already running.21:23
TommyMannE: main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.21:23
TommyMannavihay: weird eh?21:27
TommyMannI tried pulseaudio -vvv and can give you that if you want21:29
avihayTommyMann: thats the exact same output I get. try useing the kmix application, restarting pulseaudio, reading the online documentation or removeing pulseaudio and using alsa,  or wait for someone else to help, I don't know how to mess with pulseaudio myself21:30
TommyManndang21:30
TommyMannkmix shows all the sounds up21:30
BarkingFishSometimes when my sound doesn't work, I just restart the whole kdm and it usually kicks into life21:33
BarkingFishif you have konsole open, try typing pavucontrol and bring up pulse's volume control21:34
TommyMannwhen I went to multimedia settings it asked me if I wanted to forget about a list of devices21:34
BarkingFishonce you opened pavucontrol, go to the tab marked output devices21:35
TommyMannbarkingfish: there21:36
BarkingFishOK21:36
BarkingFishIt should say at the top the name of the sound device, followed by which port it's using21:36
BarkingFishcan you tell me if those are there, and if so, what they are listed as please?21:37
TommyMannjust says internal analog stereo21:37
TommyMannand has a drop menu21:37
TommyMannanalog speakers21:37
TommyMannanalog output21:37
TommyMannanalog headphones21:37
TommyMannno ports21:37
BarkingFishif you look to the left, you should see the word Port :)21:38
TommyMannah yeah21:38
BarkingFishThose are the available ports for pulseaudio to output on21:38
BarkingFishRight, underneath there should be a volume control21:38
TommyMannthey're all at 89%21:38
BarkingFishare they grayed out?21:39
TommyMannnope21:39
BarkingFishok - click on the Playback tab please :)21:39
TommyMannok21:39
BarkingFishat the bottom you will see a button, click it and select All Streams21:39
BarkingFishit should initially say "Applications"21:40
TommyMannok we're there21:40
BarkingFishRight, what volume controls do you have above it?21:40
BarkingFishI have one mono track, system sounds, and one for knotify underneath21:40
TommyMannsystem sounds: mono 100%21:41
TommyMannknotify: left 100% right 100%21:41
BarkingFishthat sounds right, can you now click on the configuration tab please? :)21:42
TommyMannok21:42
BarkingFishYou will only have one tab here, and it should be a dropdown button21:42
JeroenDeDauwI'm trying to install something that has a autogen.sh file to create a configure file to make a make file (yay, simplicity!). When I run the autogen file, I'm getting this error: http://dpaste.org/WbVX/21:42
JeroenDeDauwAnyone an idea how to fix this? I'm running Kubuntu 11.04, but suspect this is gnome related after some google'ing21:42
TommyManninternal audio: analog stereo duplex21:42
BarkingFishTommyMann, Can you try changing that to analog stereo output please?21:43
TommyMannok, no change in sound unless I have to exit to save changes21:44
BarkingFishwhen you've done that, I'd like you to close pavucontrol21:44
BarkingFishit won't happen just yet :)21:44
TommyMannk21:44
BarkingFishI'm going to ask you to restart the kdm now.21:44
avihaygenii-around: sensors-detect is so cool, it managed to not crash both the machines I ran it on even though I let it probe all of my hardware, and was very clear on how to use and install the modules, thanks, coffee was good too21:45
BarkingFishYou'll lose your open programs for a brief second, but you can come straight back :)21:45
TommyMannthat's cool21:45
BarkingFishTommyMann, please type in the konsole: sudo service kdm restart21:45
BarkingFishand we'll see you in a moment :)21:45
genii-aroundavihay: Yer welcome21:45
TommyMannstill silence21:47
BarkingFishok, no problem21:47
TommyMannbarkingfish: ^21:47
BarkingFishopen up konsole again, and this time, type padevchooser21:47
* Daskreech give genii-around a pot of coffee21:48
avihaygenii-around: I rebooted the machine, but /proc/acpi/thermal_zone is still an empty folder :-<21:48
BarkingFishit won't open a window, TommyMann - what it will do is stick a little white square in your system tray.21:48
genii-aroundavihay: Yes that happens here too but my temperature applet still reads the correct stuff somehow21:49
BarkingFishleft click on that icon, and from the list which opens, select Manager and click it21:49
TommyMannjust indents a line, but doesn't bring back up a commandline21:50
TommyManntommy@Displacer-Beast:~$ padevchooser21:50
TommyMann^C21:50
TommyManntommy@Displacer-Beast:~$21:50
BarkingFishlook at your system tray, TommyMann21:50
BarkingFishdo you see a small white square in it?21:50
avihayI want to monitor a machins temperture over ssh, for that I want a simple script, or preferably a one line bash command that will (since I cant read the proc file) run sensors | grep °C , and then run sleep(60). will someone be so kind as to save me the bash manual?21:51
TommyMannthe ^C is just me trying to copy with hotkey21:51
BarkingFishso you don't have the icon?21:52
TommyMannah, yeah21:52
TommyMannI do have the icon sorry21:52
BarkingFishok, left click, and when the list comes up, click manager21:52
TommyMannok21:53
TommyMannup and running21:53
TommyMannthe manager that is21:54
BarkingFishright, you should have 5 tabs.  I want you to start in the server information tab21:54
BarkingFishDo you first of all, have a Default Sink and a Default Source set?21:54
TommyMannsink: alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo21:55
BarkingFishsame as mine21:55
TommyMannsource: alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo.monitor21:55
BarkingFishand again, same as mine21:55
avihayoh, and I don't know how to make loops...21:56
BarkingFishCan you switch please to the Modules tab, TommyMann?21:56
TommyMannI'm there21:57
BarkingFishUnder there, you should have only one module listed, module-alsa-card21:57
BarkingFishCan you copypaste the content of that field please?21:57
TommyManncopy seems disabled, and it's long so give me a sec to type it out21:58
BarkingFishon second thoughts, skip that, you can't :)21:58
TommyManndevice_id="0"name="pci-0000_00_1b.0"card_name="alsa_card.pci-0000_00_1b.0"tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1"21:59
BarkingFishright, then this isn't a pulseaudio problem :)22:00
BarkingFishyou can close the manager window, and we'll aim for systemsettings22:00
BarkingFishthis is more likely a backend issue22:00
TommyMannI think I have gstreamer as the highest pref22:00
TommyMannBarkingFish: thanks for all the help in advance/in the middle22:01
BarkingFishno problem22:01
BarkingFishI had to go through all this to get my sound to work on my laptop when I switched to kubuntu :)22:02
BarkingFishOpen the multimedia tab and click Phonon22:02
TommyMannfirst I get:22:02
TommyMannThis is the list of devices KDE thinks can be removed:22:02
TommyMannCapture: HDA Intel (ALC269 Analog)22:02
TommyMannOutput: HDA Intel (ALC269 Analog)22:02
TommyMannOutput: HDA Intel, INTEL HDMI (HDMI Audio Output)22:02
TommyMannin a popup when I open phonon22:02
BarkingFishsay no to them all22:03
TommyManndone22:03
BarkingFishright, Phonon area :)22:03
TommyMannk22:04
BarkingFishThe first thing is the device preferences tab, can you click on Music in the list on the left, and tell me please what the top output device is?22:04
TommyManninternal audio analog stereo22:04
BarkingFishExcellent. Can you click Apply device list to... at the bottom of the left side, and make sure everything is ticked off please?22:05
TommyManndone22:05
BarkingFishcool22:05
BarkingFishMiddle tab next, Speaker Setup :)22:06
TommyMannk22:06
BarkingFishMake sure your two devices under hardware are: Internal Audio for the sound card, and Analog Stereo Duplex for the Profile please22:07
TommyMannprofile was analog stereo output22:07
BarkingFishUnder Output, you should have for hardware, Internal Audio Analog Stereo - and for Connector, please set Analog Speakers :)22:08
TommyMannthat's what's set in it22:08
BarkingFishokies, we're getting close22:08
BarkingFishCan you go back to the device preferences tab please, and in the right hand box, click Internal Audio analog stereo?22:09
BarkingFishat the bottom of that pane, you will see a "test" button light up22:09
BarkingFishcan you click it please and see if your speakers output anything?22:09
TommyMannno sound22:09
BarkingFishwhat other devices do you have in that column please?22:10
TommyMannnone22:10
BarkingFishok, left pane, can you please tick the "show advanced devices" checkbox?22:10
TommyMannbeen checked22:11
BarkingFishstill no other devices?22:11
TommyMannnothing, unchecked and rechecked22:11
TommyMannjust internal audio analog stereo22:11
BarkingFishdang.22:11
BarkingFishOk then, one more check - please go to the backend tab and confirm with me that you have got gstreamer as your primary backend p22:12
TommyMannI do22:12
BarkingFishmyxzptlk.22:12
TommyMannis that the evil demon from superman?22:12
BarkingFishi think so22:13
BarkingFishcan you go back to the konsole please?22:13
TommyMannsure22:13
BarkingFishI'm really sorry about this, I don't normally take this long to get stuff working :)22:14
TommyMannwell I figured that this problem was a weird one22:14
BarkingFishyou're telling me it is :D22:14
TommyMannmy sound works like one day a week22:15
BarkingFishAt the command line, can you please type this - ps aux | grep pulse22:15
TommyManntommy     3003  0.8  0.2 348884  9836 ?        S<sl 16:31   0:22 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog22:15
TommyManntommy     4894  0.0  0.0   9140  1056 pts/0    S+   17:15   0:00 grep --color=auto pulse22:15
TommyManntommy@Displacer-Beast:~$22:15
BarkingFishaha22:15
BarkingFishyou be missing something :)22:16
BarkingFishthor      1592  0.1  0.9 161520  9504 ?        S<sl 16:21   0:31 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog22:16
BarkingFishthor      1623  0.0  0.3  20792  3412 ?        Sl   16:21   0:00 /usr/lib/pulseaudio/pulse/gconf-helper22:16
BarkingFishthor     20607  0.0  0.0   4164   856 pts/1    S+   23:14   0:00 grep --color=auto pulse22:16
TommyManngconfhelper?22:17
BarkingFishthat's what it looks like22:17
BarkingFishMy sound is working, but I have both of those files live.22:17
TommyManngconfhelper, doesn't show up in synaptic or ap-get install22:19
BarkingFishin konsole, can you do - cd /usr/lib/pulseaudio/pulse please?22:19
TommyMannk22:19
BarkingFishwhen you're in, can you please type ls -a22:19
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TommyMann/usr/lib/pulseaudio/pulse$ ls -a22:20
TommyMann.   gconf-helper22:20
TommyMann..  proximity-helper22:20
BarkingFishyou should have 2 files, both marked in green, gconf-helper and gconf-schema22:20
TommyMannthose are the two green files22:21
BarkingFishhm22:21
BarkingFishIt sounds to me like you have some packages missing possibly22:21
TommyMannproximity helper insead of gconf-schema22:21
BarkingFishtry this - sudo apt-get install pulseaudio-module-gconf22:22
TommyMannpulseaudio-module-gconf is already the newest version.22:23
BarkingFish:/22:23
* BarkingFish is having a headscratching session22:23
BarkingFishdo you have vlc installed?22:24
TommyMannyeah22:24
BarkingFishmaybe we could try you with a different phonon backend22:24
BarkingFishtry sudo apt-get install phonon-backend-vlc22:24
BarkingFishI might be going in a moment, so if I don't get this working tonight, TommyMann - I'll come back to you tomorrow evening22:25
TommyMannalready at newest version22:25
BarkingFishI'm using my neighbors wifi with his permission, and he usually goes to bed in about 5 minutes or so22:25
TommyMannwell, I'm working tomorrow night22:25
BarkingFishah damn.  Sunday?22:26
TommyMannavailable22:26
BarkingFishperfect22:26
BarkingFishI'll put that in my calendar to remind me22:26
BarkingFishAnyway, if you have the vlc backend already, have you tried swapping gstreamer for an alternate backend?22:27
TommyMannyeah, just went through all three I have with no luck22:27
TommyMannin sound settings22:27
TommyMannbut I didn't restart kdm, so22:27
TommyManngstreamer, vlc, and xine are installed22:27
BarkingFishtry it that way22:27
BarkingFishJust changing the backend without restarting the dm might not work22:28
BarkingFishswitch to the vlc one first, and do the sudo service kdm restart from your konsole :)22:28
BarkingFishif that doesn't work, try the xine backend.22:28
BarkingFishOne of them will work, it has to :)22:28
BarkingFishBoy, this is a real head scratcher.  Anyone else got any thoughts on what could be going wrong?22:30
BarkingFishhello again :)22:30
TommyMannvlc didn't do it22:31
BarkingFishdang22:31
TommyManntrying xine22:31
BarkingFishokies22:31
TommyMannno xine either22:33
skierpageSomehow have "Partition Manager" *and* "KDE Partition Manager"?  One's a KDE Control Module, the other a KDE binary.  Which is better?22:33
BarkingFishTommyMann, one last trick for tonight.22:34
TommyMannok22:34
BarkingFishCan you please open konsole, and type alsamixer22:34
TommyMannok22:34
BarkingFishwhen it comes up, can you check the volume on all your channels please22:34
TommyManns/pdif is off22:35
BarkingFishthe first 4 channels, master, speaker, headphone and PCM should all be up22:35
TommyMannheadphones at 022:35
TommyManninternal mic boost at 022:35
TommyManneverything else is at 10022:35
BarkingFishjust a quick check, do you have any headphones or external speakers?22:36
TommyMannnope22:36
skierpageThey're really similar, same icon, but KDE Partition Manager seems to have more features. Confusing!22:36
TommyMannI own some headphones22:36
TommyMannjust not plugged in22:36
BarkingFishwell if you could plug into your headphone socket please, and turn the volume up to about 80 ish, let's see if you're getting sound out from the headphone socket22:37
BarkingFishwhen you're plugged in, just try playing some music in VLC or something22:38
TommyMannno sound through speakers22:39
TommyManndidn't pop up with any sort of detection either22:39
BarkingFishanything through the headphones?22:39
TommyMannnothing22:40
BarkingFish[censored by xchat 2.8.6]22:40
BarkingFishsorry22:40
TommyMannyeah22:41
TommyMannthanks anyway22:41
BarkingFishI'll have a think about this over the next day or so, and I'll see you back in here on sunday night.22:41
TommyMannwhat time is night in your time zone?22:42
TommyMannit's 5pm for me22:42
BarkingFishI'm in GMT +1 at the moment, it's 23.42 here22:42
BarkingFishI'm normally on from about 20.00 GMT +122:42
TommyMannah well it's 110 degrees at 5 oclock in austin texas22:43
BarkingFishHoly Cow!22:43
BarkingFish110F?  That's like...22:43
TommyMannvery hot22:43
BarkingFish40°c22:44
BarkingFishisc22:44
BarkingFish*ish22:44
BarkingFishman, I'd die in that heat.22:44
BarkingFishI was born in Iceland, TommyMann - Summer there never gets past 20°c :)22:44
TommyMannjeez, winter is barely that in austin22:45
TommyMannonly hits freezeing two days a year22:45
BarkingFishWinter in Iceland is fun. You never know whether you'll be able to leave your house in the morning.22:46
TommyMannThat's kind of like summer here.22:46
TommyMannMight die of heat stroke on the way to the bus.22:46
BarkingFish0.022:46
BarkingFishIn Keflavik in Winter, the only thing you're likely to die from is falling over into a 5 or 6ft deep snowdrift and not being able to stand up before you suffocate22:47
BarkingFishAnyhoo, I'm gonna pack up the lappy and get off to bed. I'm at work in about 8 hours, and I need my sleep :)22:48
TommyMannDon't really get much snow.22:48
TommyMannGet ice instead occasionally22:49
BarkingFishI have 600 hungry perps to deal with first thing tomorrow, and a whole 8 hours with them22:49
BarkingFishyay. not.22:49
TommyMannperps?22:50
BarkingFishPrisoners :)22:50
TommyMannah22:50
BarkingFishI'm supervising kitchen tomorrow morning, for the guys doing breakfast.22:50
TommyMannThat's a job.22:51
BarkingFishYeah, myself and my colleague have a team of 20 prisoners who're deemed safe to work, and they do the prep and cooking for the breakfasts.22:52
BarkingFishIt's trickier when you're dealing, as I do, with Youth offenders, we have to be slightly more careful with them in a kitchen22:53
TommyMannThat's pretty cool. Are the prisons less ridiculous in Iceland?22:53
BarkingFishI don't know thankfully, I was never in one :)22:53
BarkingFishI'm in the UK now, have been for about 10 years22:53
BarkingFishI live right across the road from where I work, which is about a 3 minute walk22:54
TommyMannLiving close to work sounds awesome, although maybe not so much when it's a prison22:54
BarkingFishThat's precisely why I live here.  The estate I live on has 200 houses, and only 54 of them are lived in.22:55
BarkingFishMost people run a mile when they discover their new house is a stone's throw from the gates of a Category A prison22:55
TommyMannI am actually heading out to a pub for a friends birthday now22:57
BarkingFishanyway, TommyMann - I promise you I'll be here on sunday, and we *will* get your sound working22:57
TommyMannpleasure speaking with you, catch you on sunday22:57
BarkingFishNo problem, take care22:57
BarkingFishright guys, that's my lot for tonight.22:57
BarkingFishbeen fun, I'll catch you all tomorrow22:57
BarkingFishsee ya22:58
skierpageKDE Partition Manager warns that my partitions don't start at a cylinder boundary... but this is a USB flash drive. The Linux stack needs to get a clue and drop the "63 sectors 255 heads" crap from 15 years ago.23:12
skierpageI actually want my partitions to start on a 1 MiB boundary per flash recommendations, but I can't figure it out.  Is the first sector sector 0 or sector 1?23:15
skierpageSounds like KDE Partition Manager 1.1 improves things, http://blog.volker-lanz.de/2010/06/01/new-in-kde-partition-manager-1-1-v-options-galore23:19
dthackerkmail is telling me I have an invalid mail transport, but I've deleted it from accounts and restarted.  How can I find it?23:42
Daskreechdthacker: Put in an account/23:55
Daskreech?23:55
dthacker??23:55
Daskreechskierpage: It's jsut a warning you can probably ignroe it23:55
alkanhi all23:55
alkanmy name is Alkan from Turkey23:55
dthackerI used the account wizard to add the account..23:55
dthackerI now have three transports, none of which match this name.23:56
Daskreechdthacker: sounds strange. Did you look at the akonadi control center?23:57
trionsI formatted a USB thumb drive to ext4. When I insert it, and open dolphin, I am unable to copy or create new folders inside the thumb drive.23:57
dthackerDaskreech: How would I access that?23:57
dthackerDaskreech: don't see it in settings or system menus23:59

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