| KM0201 | Pegasus_RPG: u still here? | 00:05 |
|---|---|---|
| Pegasus_RPG | y | 00:05 |
| Pegasus_RPG | copying settings files for deployment | 00:05 |
| * Pegasus_RPG will need to use the late-command in the preseed file to accomplish much of this | 00:05 | |
| KM0201 | k, i'm looking. | 00:06 |
| KM0201 | Pegasus_RPG: i think i figured it out, lemme test it real quick. | 00:07 |
| Pegasus_RPG | thank you very much | 00:08 |
| KM0201 | what good is a manpage, when its not right? | 00:15 |
| KM0201 | Pegasus_RPG: are you still here? | 00:15 |
| Pegasus_RPG | y | 00:15 |
| KM0201 | do me a favor... i kinda fubar'd my system trying to test this..lol | 00:15 |
| KM0201 | open up a terminal and type "sudo nano /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf" no quotes, and hit enter, enter your password, and it should open up a file. | 00:16 |
| KM0201 | Pegasus_RPG: when you get that file open, under display, there's one that says bg=/path i need that path. | 00:17 |
| KM0201 | i think its /usr something.. | 00:18 |
| Pegasus_RPG | oh geez | 00:18 |
| Pegasus_RPG | k sec | 00:18 |
| KM0201 | appreciate it.. :) | 00:19 |
| KM0201 | (but i do think i've figured it out..lol) | 00:19 |
| Pegasus_RPG | /usr/share/backgrounds/default.png | 00:19 |
| Pegasus_RPG | my /usr/share/backgrounds is empty tho | 00:19 |
| KM0201 | i know. | 00:20 |
| KM0201 | brb | 00:20 |
| Pegasus_RPG | k | 00:20 |
| Pegasus_RPG | whew, you're back | 00:36 |
| KM0201 | i don't know why lxde needs to make stuff so needlessly complex | 00:36 |
| KM0201 | yah, it was easy to fix when you gave me the path (thanks..)... but i was trying to figure out how to change it. | 00:36 |
| Pegasus_RPG | is it just a matter of dropping a png in place of that default? | 00:37 |
| KM0201 | well, i tried that, w/o any luck... | 00:37 |
| KM0201 | lemme try one more thing | 00:38 |
| KM0201 | brb | 00:38 |
| Pegasus_RPG | k | 00:38 |
| Pegasus_RPG | thanks for all of your time on this! | 00:38 |
| Pegasus_RPG | thanks for all of your time on this! | 00:39 |
| Pegasus_RPG | bbl | 00:39 |
| Pegasus_RPG | gotta run | 00:39 |
| KM0201 | boy thats unecessarily difficult | 00:39 |
| Pegasus_RPG | will stay logged in | 00:39 |
| KM0201 | hey, i figured it out | 00:39 |
| KM0201 | lol | 00:39 |
| Pegasus_RPG | oh cool | 00:39 |
| KM0201 | hang on a sec. | 00:39 |
| Pegasus_RPG | say it here and I'll read it when I get back | 00:39 |
| Pegasus_RPG | thanks so much!! | 00:39 |
| KM0201 | ok. | 00:40 |
| KM0201 | 1. Find your .png file and rename it to "default.png" | 00:40 |
| KM0201 | 2. cd into the directory that has "your" default.png... | 00:41 |
| KM0201 | 3. sudo cp default.png /usr/share/backgrounds | 00:41 |
| KM0201 | 4. open lxdm configuration file -- sudo nano /etc/xdg/lubuntu/lxdm/lxdm.conf | 00:41 |
| KM0201 | 5. Go down under display, and add this line.. bg=/usr/share/backgrounds/default.png | 00:42 |
| KM0201 | then save and close | 00:42 |
| KM0201 | 6. sudo update-alternatives --config lxdm.conf | 00:43 |
| KM0201 | 7. Choose "0" (or just leave blank and hit enter.. do not hit 1 or 2.. that's what caused my issue) | 00:43 |
| KM0201 | after it saves, reboot (you migh tbe able to just log out)... and then you should get your new login screen. | 00:43 |
| KM0201 | so there you have it... | 00:44 |
| nekotreci | hi, i wanna install lubuntu, somebody says me its the lightiest version of linux | 00:53 |
| nekotreci | and i need something for weak machine | 00:53 |
| nekotreci | i have 512 ram | 00:53 |
| nekotreci | and now i have ubuntu | 00:53 |
| KM0201 | nekotreci: 512 of ram... ssounds like lubuntu is a good choice | 00:54 |
| nekotreci | so i now go in synpatic and type lubuntu | 00:54 |
| nekotreci | then ? | 00:54 |
| nekotreci | everything i need is bluefish and connectiong to server using folder like in ubuntu | 00:55 |
| KM0201 | oh i thought you meant you want to install lubuntu... a machine w/ specs that low, id' just do a clean install of lubuntu. | 00:55 |
| nekotreci | so i go to synpatic and install lubuntu | 00:58 |
| kosaidpo | hello guys | 01:09 |
| kosaidpo | how can i make my webcam work on skype | 01:09 |
| kosaidpo | my webcam work in cheese | 01:09 |
| kosaidpo | tho | 01:09 |
| Scott_S | Anyone else having an issue where the Lubuntu installer is just refusing to get past the "Download updates while installing..." screen? | 03:49 |
| Scott_S | Yeah, each time I try to get past the second installer page it fails with "Sorry, the program "blkid" closed unexpectedly". Tried several times now. | 03:52 |
| KM0201 | Scott_S: hmm, haven't heard that one | 03:54 |
| KM0201 | have you tried installing and checking "do not install updates".. | 03:54 |
| Scott_S | Just did, failed again. | 03:54 |
| KM0201 | ok, have you checked the md5sum on the cd, to make sure it either isn't a bad ISO, or a bad burn? | 03:55 |
| Scott_S | Tried both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of the LiveCD. Using the USB version. | 03:55 |
| Scott_S | That'd make sense if I were using the CD lol. It'd be odd for two different images to have the same error too. | 03:56 |
| KM0201 | yeah, it would.. but you didn't mention that before, so thats why i suggested it. | 03:58 |
| Scott_S | Yeah, hence why I mentioned it now. Seems that Daemon is being inhibited, not fully sure why the window is refusing to "kill" too. | 03:58 |
| jmarsden | Scott_S: blkid is looking at disk devices at a low level... do you have an unusual or broken disk that is confusing it? | 04:00 |
| jmarsden | Woah, he left already? Oh well... | 04:00 |
| Scott_S | Sorry about that, windows closed out while I was trying to force-kill the installer. | 04:01 |
| jmarsden | Repeating: Scott_S: blkid is looking at disk devices at a low level... do you have an unusual or broken disk that is confusing it? | 04:01 |
| Scott_S | jmarsden: Most likely the SSD in my system yeah. | 04:01 |
| jmarsden | Scott_S: OK, can you boot from the Lubuntu LiveCD and get to a shell and play with blkid to see what it is doing? | 04:02 |
| Scott_S | jmarsden: Other than that? All disks are fine as far as I know. Used to have an Ubuntu 10.04.2 install, but I had the SSD disconnected during that... | 04:02 |
| Scott_S | http://pastebin.com/6UB7PSYw | 04:02 |
| Scott_S | That's the output from checking blkid | 04:02 |
| Scott_S | Oddly enough, I have two partitions only SDA but only one of them is showing. Hmm. | 04:03 |
| Scott_S | on SDA, I mean. | 04:03 |
| jmarsden | OK... I think if you can clean up your disk partitions, the installer will be happier. I'm guessing, but... the guess is based on experience :) | 04:05 |
| Scott_S | jmarsden: The SSD happens to be my main boot drive for Windows. =P I'll try unplugging that after a quick shutdown and I'll log back into here to report my findings. Thanks. | 04:05 |
| jmarsden | Scott_S: You're welcome. | 04:05 |
| Scott_S | Alright, let's see how this works lol. | 04:08 |
| Scott_S | Nope, looks like the installer is just hanging again. Hmmm. | 04:10 |
| Scott_S | Although blkid doesn't appear to be crashing suddenly this time, which I suppose is a good sign. | 04:11 |
| KM0201 | Scott_S: have you considered the alternate cd? | 04:15 |
| Scott_S | KM0201: That would be odd too, as I have installed 10.04.2 before, along with Lubuntu 10.10, on this very same machine. | 04:16 |
| KM0201 | i dunnno, doesn't make a lot of sense | 04:16 |
| Scott_S | That's what I'm going "whaaa?" about. No reason for it to just be hanging. | 04:16 |
| Scott_S | Contemplating whether or not it's screwing it with seeing the EXT4 and SWAP partitions there already. Suppose I'll try deleting those first then. | 04:17 |
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| Scott_S | Found the issue. SWAP partition on the hard drive keeps getting used upon boot. | 04:22 |
| Scott_S | Gonna boot up a GParted and delete the partition. Will report back so that you guys know what caused the issue in the first place. | 04:23 |
| Scott_S | Now I'm just completely lost. No swap or ext4 partitions, just 3 partitions on the system, yet still refuses to get past that darn page. | 04:36 |
| === AmberJ_ is now known as AmberJ | ||
| bhm | ping | 11:25 |
| bioterror | pong | 11:26 |
| bhm | Following a discussion on the lubuntu mailing list, I wondered if one could "speed up things" significantly by dropping all the icons. | 11:27 |
| bhm | ...and skin the UI down to something minimalistic like just text and frames (in a nice looks of course)... | 11:28 |
| bioterror | stop using openbox and lxde, start using ctwm or something else | 11:28 |
| bhm | but that would be sad... | 11:28 |
| bioterror | why? | 11:29 |
| bhm | well thinking about lubuntu being antibloat, lean, fast and energy efficient makes me think of Lubuntu as a cheetah... | 11:30 |
| bhm | compared to the other elephants... | 11:30 |
| bioterror | gnome3 takes 122MB of ram after boot to desktop, lubuntu takes 120 something | 11:31 |
| bioterror | what do you think about that | 11:32 |
| bhm | ok then... facts win in any argument... | 11:32 |
| bioterror | hmm | 11:34 |
| bioterror | was those icons defined in .desktop files | 11:34 |
| bioterror | Icon=brasero | 11:35 |
| bioterror | for example | 11:35 |
| bioterror | it's already defined in there | 11:35 |
| bhm | nope it was purely an random line of thought after seeing a very elegant screenshot of a desktop that had glass-blue looks, menus with text only and then windows. | 11:35 |
| bhm | the windows very trimmed minimalistically and the programs running had their own features but all the bloat was gone. | 11:36 |
| bioterror | if you want fast desktop with minimalistic things, install minimal setup, window manager of your dreams, lxappearance, ozone2 or another gtk theme, replace gnome nm-applet with wicd (if you dont need 3G connections ;) and if you're using laptop, you could give a shot to xfce4-power-manager | 11:39 |
| bioterror | or you can configure acpi to respond for closing laptop lid | 11:39 |
| bioterror | and pcmanfm as your filemanager | 11:40 |
| bioterror | it will handle the things you want | 11:40 |
| bioterror | that's actually fun way to spend one evening while watching tv and dodging all the wife's suggestions | 11:40 |
| === Evixion` is now known as Evixion | ||
| bioterror | fluxbox for example has a bar with systemtray | 11:41 |
| bioterror | and it's really configurable | 11:41 |
| bhm | Neat. Wife would be sitting at the other machine smiling... Know any https with how-to's? | 11:41 |
| bioterror | I once leeched 7 seasons of Gilmore Girls | 11:42 |
| bioterror | and I had couple of weeks my own time :D | 11:42 |
| bioterror | eeeeevery evening | 11:42 |
| bhm | lol | 11:42 |
| bioterror | did you read that ubuntu 8.10 discussion? | 11:43 |
| bioterror | when I was a kid, we used compile kernels by ourself | 11:43 |
| bhm | yep... that's what made me browse | 11:43 |
| bioterror | to supports just the needed hardware we had | 11:43 |
| bioterror | nothing more, nothing less | 11:43 |
| bhm | Yeah, but thats way beyond my level of superabusage... | 11:44 |
| bhm | I have 3 Ph.D.s in manual reading... | 11:44 |
| bioterror | now we can walk to shop and buy more RAM ;) | 11:44 |
| bioterror | heck, I can even walk to computer store and buy AMD Phenom II X6 1090 | 11:45 |
| bhm | But isn't that a bit like surrendering to a problem - i mean just upgrading...? | 11:45 |
| bioterror | no | 11:45 |
| bhm | Why | 11:45 |
| bioterror | I've accpted that | 11:45 |
| bioterror | accepted | 11:45 |
| bioterror | it took years from demo scene to take all the juices out of C64 and it's disk drives CPU | 11:45 |
| bhm | So what happened to "Do More With Less?" | 11:46 |
| bioterror | so, I dont expect that to happen to PC, actually never | 11:46 |
| bioterror | things would be different if we all still had 233MMX | 11:46 |
| bhm | so did "Do More With Less" just turn into more|less ? | 11:46 |
| bioterror | :D | 11:46 |
| bhm | :-) | 11:47 |
| bioterror | I'm just trying to say that most of the things are bloat and they will be | 11:47 |
| bioterror | there's really no need to take out the every last drop of CPU and GPU | 11:47 |
| bhm | okay, but maintaining the ability to scale effectively when needed (f.x. using series of ARM cpus) | 11:51 |
| bhm | isn't that the goal of antibloat: What you need when you need it - in stead of redundant capacity? | 11:51 |
| bhm | (I guess I carry the scientists approach....) | 11:52 |
| leszek | hi | 12:24 |
| === gnuvince1 is now known as gnuvince | ||
| aleph | hi! | 15:15 |
| aleph | what is standard LUBUNTU disk usage after fresh install? Exactly. | 15:15 |
| KM0201 | aleph: exactly?. | 15:18 |
| KM0201 | i doubt you'll find an "exact" answer tot hat. | 15:18 |
| aleph | plus/minus 50MB | 15:18 |
| aleph | I know standard 32-bit ubuntu is 2.80 GB | 15:19 |
| KM0201 | even +/- 50mb is tough... are youg onna install multimedia codecs? are you gonna download updates while installing? | 15:19 |
| aleph | and it is slightly too much, for my hacky project. | 15:19 |
| KM0201 | well, i was thinking right at 2gigs.. so i'd suspect 2-2.5 | 15:19 |
| aleph | standard. like clicking next, next, next, when installing :) | 15:19 |
| aleph | KM0201: oh. thanks. Will probably just install in VM to check. | 15:19 |
| KM0201 | aleph: thats one way to check | 15:20 |
| aleph | I have about 3.1GB space available, and from this about 700MB would like to have in /home, and downloding updates. So 2.4 is margin of safety for me. | 15:20 |
| aleph | KM0201: thanks. Was thinking someone will know exactly :) as lubuntu is about lightweight/lxde ubuntu :D | 15:21 |
| aleph | there is page about requirments, but it have somehow overestimated space usage (because it changes, from version to version, and update. and just to not suprise user when installing :D). | 15:22 |
| KM0201 | aleph: that doesn't mean anyone is gonna know exactly... | 15:22 |
| aleph | KM0201: somebody should measure it, and put in documentation / wiki / relase notes :D | 15:23 |
| KM0201 | aleph: only thing stopping you is you. | 15:23 |
| aleph | currently release notes have "The graphical installer will not continue if you have less that 5 GB available for installation. However, you can install Lubuntu using the minimal installation instructions with less than 4 GB available." | 15:23 |
| aleph | So, can have problem installing it on 4GB (minus some space for FAT32). | 15:24 |
| aleph | will try. | 15:24 |
| aleph | "32 bit, low disk usage - For those people where hard disk space is critically low, this community edition requires just 2.7 GB of hard drive. This version is discussed at 11.04 Minimal Disk Space." | 15:26 |
| aleph | So, not really big change from Ubuntu. ;D | 15:26 |
| aleph | Ah. I see, this is mostly because Ubiquity installer, uses lots of temporary space on target file system (probably extracting debs from cdrom). | 15:27 |
| bhm | Aleph: Naked install with Ubuntu One 2273984 bytes | 16:46 |
| aleph | bhm: naked? 2MB ? | 16:57 |
| aleph | you mean kbytes, probably | 16:57 |
| bhm | :-) | 17:02 |
| ali_ | hello | 19:44 |
| ali_ | cab abibe tekk ne where i can get v11.10 from | 19:44 |
| ali_ | can anyone tell me* | 19:44 |
| Unit193 | It's not ready for general use, but you can find it at cdimage.ubuntu.com | 19:45 |
| Unit193 | -_- | 19:45 |
| silverarrow | hi | 20:01 |
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