[00:05] Pegasus_RPG: u still here? [00:05] y [00:05] copying settings files for deployment [00:05] * Pegasus_RPG will need to use the late-command in the preseed file to accomplish much of this [00:06] k, i'm looking. [00:07] Pegasus_RPG: i think i figured it out, lemme test it real quick. [00:08] thank you very much [00:15] what good is a manpage, when its not right? [00:15] Pegasus_RPG: are you still here? [00:15] y [00:15] do me a favor... i kinda fubar'd my system trying to test this..lol [00:16] open up a terminal and type "sudo nano /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf" no quotes, and hit enter, enter your password, and it should open up a file. [00:17] Pegasus_RPG: when you get that file open, under display, there's one that says bg=/path i need that path. [00:18] i think its /usr something.. [00:18] oh geez [00:18] k sec [00:19] appreciate it.. :) [00:19] (but i do think i've figured it out..lol) [00:19] /usr/share/backgrounds/default.png [00:19] my /usr/share/backgrounds is empty tho [00:20] i know. [00:20] brb [00:20] k [00:36] whew, you're back [00:36] i don't know why lxde needs to make stuff so needlessly complex [00:36] yah, it was easy to fix when you gave me the path (thanks..)... but i was trying to figure out how to change it. [00:37] is it just a matter of dropping a png in place of that default? [00:37] well, i tried that, w/o any luck... [00:38] lemme try one more thing [00:38] brb [00:38] k [00:38] thanks for all of your time on this! [00:39] thanks for all of your time on this! [00:39] bbl [00:39] gotta run [00:39] boy thats unecessarily difficult [00:39] will stay logged in [00:39] hey, i figured it out [00:39] lol [00:39] oh cool [00:39] hang on a sec. [00:39] say it here and I'll read it when I get back [00:39] thanks so much!! [00:40] ok. [00:40] 1. Find your .png file and rename it to "default.png" [00:41] 2. cd into the directory that has "your" default.png... [00:41] 3. sudo cp default.png /usr/share/backgrounds [00:41] 4. open lxdm configuration file -- sudo nano /etc/xdg/lubuntu/lxdm/lxdm.conf [00:42] 5. Go down under display, and add this line.. bg=/usr/share/backgrounds/default.png [00:42] then save and close [00:43] 6. sudo update-alternatives --config lxdm.conf [00:43] 7. Choose "0" (or just leave blank and hit enter.. do not hit 1 or 2.. that's what caused my issue) [00:43] after it saves, reboot (you migh tbe able to just log out)... and then you should get your new login screen. [00:44] so there you have it... [00:53] hi, i wanna install lubuntu, somebody says me its the lightiest version of linux [00:53] and i need something for weak machine [00:53] i have 512 ram [00:53] and now i have ubuntu [00:54] nekotreci: 512 of ram... ssounds like lubuntu is a good choice [00:54] so i now go in synpatic and type lubuntu [00:54] then ? [00:55] everything i need is bluefish and connectiong to server using folder like in ubuntu [00:55] oh i thought you meant you want to install lubuntu... a machine w/ specs that low, id' just do a clean install of lubuntu. [00:58] so i go to synpatic and install lubuntu [01:09] hello guys [01:09] how can i make my webcam work on skype [01:09] my webcam work in cheese [01:09] tho [03:49] Anyone else having an issue where the Lubuntu installer is just refusing to get past the "Download updates while installing..." screen? [03:52] Yeah, each time I try to get past the second installer page it fails with "Sorry, the program "blkid" closed unexpectedly". Tried several times now. [03:54] Scott_S: hmm, haven't heard that one [03:54] have you tried installing and checking "do not install updates".. [03:54] Just did, failed again. [03:55] ok, have you checked the md5sum on the cd, to make sure it either isn't a bad ISO, or a bad burn? [03:55] Tried both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of the LiveCD. Using the USB version. [03:56] That'd make sense if I were using the CD lol. It'd be odd for two different images to have the same error too. [03:58] yeah, it would.. but you didn't mention that before, so thats why i suggested it. [03:58] Yeah, hence why I mentioned it now. Seems that Daemon is being inhibited, not fully sure why the window is refusing to "kill" too. [04:00] Scott_S: blkid is looking at disk devices at a low level... do you have an unusual or broken disk that is confusing it? [04:00] Woah, he left already? Oh well... [04:01] Sorry about that, windows closed out while I was trying to force-kill the installer. [04:01] Repeating: Scott_S: blkid is looking at disk devices at a low level... do you have an unusual or broken disk that is confusing it? [04:01] jmarsden: Most likely the SSD in my system yeah. [04:02] Scott_S: OK, can you boot from the Lubuntu LiveCD and get to a shell and play with blkid to see what it is doing? [04:02] jmarsden: Other than that? All disks are fine as far as I know. Used to have an Ubuntu 10.04.2 install, but I had the SSD disconnected during that... [04:02] http://pastebin.com/6UB7PSYw [04:02] That's the output from checking blkid [04:03] Oddly enough, I have two partitions only SDA but only one of them is showing. Hmm. [04:03] on SDA, I mean. [04:05] OK... I think if you can clean up your disk partitions, the installer will be happier. I'm guessing, but... the guess is based on experience :) [04:05] jmarsden: The SSD happens to be my main boot drive for Windows. =P I'll try unplugging that after a quick shutdown and I'll log back into here to report my findings. Thanks. [04:05] Scott_S: You're welcome. [04:08] Alright, let's see how this works lol. [04:10] Nope, looks like the installer is just hanging again. Hmmm. [04:11] Although blkid doesn't appear to be crashing suddenly this time, which I suppose is a good sign. [04:15] Scott_S: have you considered the alternate cd? [04:16] KM0201: That would be odd too, as I have installed 10.04.2 before, along with Lubuntu 10.10, on this very same machine. [04:16] i dunnno, doesn't make a lot of sense [04:16] That's what I'm going "whaaa?" about. No reason for it to just be hanging. [04:17] Contemplating whether or not it's screwing it with seeing the EXT4 and SWAP partitions there already. Suppose I'll try deleting those first then. === ubuntu__ is now known as Scott-S === Scott-S is now known as Scott_S [04:22] Found the issue. SWAP partition on the hard drive keeps getting used upon boot. [04:23] Gonna boot up a GParted and delete the partition. Will report back so that you guys know what caused the issue in the first place. [04:36] Now I'm just completely lost. No swap or ext4 partitions, just 3 partitions on the system, yet still refuses to get past that darn page. === AmberJ_ is now known as AmberJ [11:25] ping [11:26] pong [11:27] Following a discussion on the lubuntu mailing list, I wondered if one could "speed up things" significantly by dropping all the icons. [11:28] ...and skin the UI down to something minimalistic like just text and frames (in a nice looks of course)... [11:28] stop using openbox and lxde, start using ctwm or something else [11:28] but that would be sad... [11:29] why? [11:30] well thinking about lubuntu being antibloat, lean, fast and energy efficient makes me think of Lubuntu as a cheetah... [11:30] compared to the other elephants... [11:31] gnome3 takes 122MB of ram after boot to desktop, lubuntu takes 120 something [11:32] what do you think about that [11:32] ok then... facts win in any argument... [11:34] hmm [11:34] was those icons defined in .desktop files [11:35] Icon=brasero [11:35] for example [11:35] it's already defined in there [11:35] nope it was purely an random line of thought after seeing a very elegant screenshot of a desktop that had glass-blue looks, menus with text only and then windows. [11:36] the windows very trimmed minimalistically and the programs running had their own features but all the bloat was gone. [11:39] if you want fast desktop with minimalistic things, install minimal setup, window manager of your dreams, lxappearance, ozone2 or another gtk theme, replace gnome nm-applet with wicd (if you dont need 3G connections ;) and if you're using laptop, you could give a shot to xfce4-power-manager [11:39] or you can configure acpi to respond for closing laptop lid [11:40] and pcmanfm as your filemanager [11:40] it will handle the things you want [11:40] that's actually fun way to spend one evening while watching tv and dodging all the wife's suggestions === Evixion` is now known as Evixion [11:41] fluxbox for example has a bar with systemtray [11:41] and it's really configurable [11:41] Neat. Wife would be sitting at the other machine smiling... Know any https with how-to's? [11:42] I once leeched 7 seasons of Gilmore Girls [11:42] and I had couple of weeks my own time :D [11:42] eeeeevery evening [11:42] lol [11:43] did you read that ubuntu 8.10 discussion? [11:43] when I was a kid, we used compile kernels by ourself [11:43] yep... that's what made me browse [11:43] to supports just the needed hardware we had [11:43] nothing more, nothing less [11:44] Yeah, but thats way beyond my level of superabusage... [11:44] I have 3 Ph.D.s in manual reading... [11:44] now we can walk to shop and buy more RAM ;) [11:45] heck, I can even walk to computer store and buy AMD Phenom II X6 1090 [11:45] But isn't that a bit like surrendering to a problem - i mean just upgrading...? [11:45] no [11:45] Why [11:45] I've accpted that [11:45] accepted [11:45] it took years from demo scene to take all the juices out of C64 and it's disk drives CPU [11:46] So what happened to "Do More With Less?" [11:46] so, I dont expect that to happen to PC, actually never [11:46] things would be different if we all still had 233MMX [11:46] so did "Do More With Less" just turn into more|less ? [11:46] :D [11:47] :-) [11:47] I'm just trying to say that most of the things are bloat and they will be [11:47] there's really no need to take out the every last drop of CPU and GPU [11:51] okay, but maintaining the ability to scale effectively when needed (f.x. using series of ARM cpus) [11:51] isn't that the goal of antibloat: What you need when you need it - in stead of redundant capacity? [11:52] (I guess I carry the scientists approach....) [12:24] hi === gnuvince1 is now known as gnuvince [15:15] hi! [15:15] what is standard LUBUNTU disk usage after fresh install? Exactly. [15:18] aleph: exactly?. [15:18] i doubt you'll find an "exact" answer tot hat. [15:18] plus/minus 50MB [15:19] I know standard 32-bit ubuntu is 2.80 GB [15:19] even +/- 50mb is tough... are youg onna install multimedia codecs? are you gonna download updates while installing? [15:19] and it is slightly too much, for my hacky project. [15:19] well, i was thinking right at 2gigs.. so i'd suspect 2-2.5 [15:19] standard. like clicking next, next, next, when installing :) [15:19] KM0201: oh. thanks. Will probably just install in VM to check. [15:20] aleph: thats one way to check [15:20] I have about 3.1GB space available, and from this about 700MB would like to have in /home, and downloding updates. So 2.4 is margin of safety for me. [15:21] KM0201: thanks. Was thinking someone will know exactly :) as lubuntu is about lightweight/lxde ubuntu :D [15:22] there is page about requirments, but it have somehow overestimated space usage (because it changes, from version to version, and update. and just to not suprise user when installing :D). [15:22] aleph: that doesn't mean anyone is gonna know exactly... [15:23] KM0201: somebody should measure it, and put in documentation / wiki / relase notes :D [15:23] aleph: only thing stopping you is you. [15:23] currently release notes have "The graphical installer will not continue if you have less that 5 GB available for installation. However, you can install Lubuntu using the minimal installation instructions with less than 4 GB available." [15:24] So, can have problem installing it on 4GB (minus some space for FAT32). [15:24] will try. [15:26] "32 bit, low disk usage - For those people where hard disk space is critically low, this community edition requires just 2.7 GB of hard drive. This version is discussed at 11.04 Minimal Disk Space." [15:26] So, not really big change from Ubuntu. ;D [15:27] Ah. I see, this is mostly because Ubiquity installer, uses lots of temporary space on target file system (probably extracting debs from cdrom). [16:46] Aleph: Naked install with Ubuntu One 2273984 bytes [16:57] bhm: naked? 2MB ? [16:57] you mean kbytes, probably [17:02] :-) [19:44] hello [19:44] cab abibe tekk ne where i can get v11.10 from [19:44] can anyone tell me* [19:45] It's not ready for general use, but you can find it at cdimage.ubuntu.com [19:45] -_- [20:01] hi