[00:15] <Onlyodin> It would appear that wine is borked on my machine :(
[00:16] <penguin42> you left the cork out?
[00:16] <BUGabundo> ahaha
[00:30] <BUGabundo> nite
[00:30] <Onlyodin> It would appear that wine is borked on my machine :(
[00:31] <Onlyodin> wine : Depends: wine1.2 but it is not going to be installed; Depends: ia32-libs (>= 1.6) but it is not going to be installed
[00:31] <Ian_Corne> it's not wine
[00:31] <Ian_Corne> it's ia32-libs
[00:31] <Ian_Corne> I have the same issue
[00:31] <Onlyodin> no ia32-libs == wine borked.
[00:31] <Ian_Corne> uhu
[00:32]  * Onlyodin wond'ers what the impossible combination' is
[00:32] <Onlyodin> grr
[00:32] <Onlyodin> stupid touchpad
[00:59] <MDesigner> hey all
[00:59] <MDesigner> I'd like to contribute to Ubuntu 12.04. :) who do I talk to?
[01:00] <urlin2u> in what way?
[01:00] <MDesigner> I was thinking a new login sound/tune would be sweet
[01:00]  * Ian_Corne hasn't heard a login sound/tune in years
[01:01] <Ian_Corne> :p
[01:01] <urlin2u> so you against the developers does that sound possible
[01:01] <MDesigner> sure
[01:01] <MDesigner> after all, the developers are not musicians..am I right? :)
[01:02] <MDesigner> I just think the current login sound is super old, and not all that exciting
[01:02] <MDesigner> Ubuntu is looking really sharp lately
[01:02] <MDesigner> it needs something more appropriate
[01:02] <urlin2u> MDesigner, me to I want John Coltrane there.
[01:03] <MDesigner> I don't think that fits too well ;)
[01:03] <Daekdroom> I think the login sound was meant to change along the theme.
[01:03] <Daekdroom> But it kept getting postponed.
[01:03] <MDesigner> well, who do I talk to about composing the next login sound?
[01:04] <Ian_Corne> I have no idea MDesigner
[01:04] <Ian_Corne> but asking here is a good start
[01:04] <MDesigner> hmm
[01:04] <Ian_Corne> is there a package that hold the system sounds?
[01:04] <MDesigner> would someone in #ubuntu know, maybe?
[01:04] <urlin2u> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio
[01:04] <Ian_Corne> you could file a bug against it
[01:04] <Ian_Corne> that's what we're good at here, filing bugs :)
[01:04] <MDesigner> hehe
[01:05] <ali1234> i think there's a ubuntu-artwork somewhere, they would probably know
[01:05] <MDesigner> lemme ask in #ubuntu real quick.. apologies to anyone here who is also there & has to hear me blab again :D
[01:05] <Ian_Corne> it's ok
[01:05] <Ian_Corne> It's quite quiet this late at night usually :)
[01:06] <MDesigner> whew. too noisy in #ubuntu to be heard I think :D
[01:07] <Ian_Corne> yeah, i never go there to ask anything :D
[01:07] <Ian_Corne> it scares me
[01:07] <ali1234> try #ubuntu-artwork
[01:07] <ali1234> but i bet it will be quiet in there
[01:08] <MDesigner> thanks
[01:08] <Ian_Corne> mailing their mailinglist might help too
[01:09] <ali1234> in fact no one has spoken on that channel in days
[01:09] <MDesigner> ha
[01:09] <Ian_Corne> well if there's people there
[01:09] <ali1234> so yeah, mailing list : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork
[01:09] <Ian_Corne> they might react
[01:09] <Ian_Corne> just idle there
[01:09] <Ian_Corne> and wait for a response
[01:09] <ali1234> yeah you never know
[01:09] <Ian_Corne> and mail :)
[01:11] <MDesigner> gotcha
[01:11] <MDesigner> thanks guys
[01:14] <Ian_Corne> sleeptime for me
[01:40] <magn3ts> Ok, how on earth are you people getting gnome-shell to run in Oneiric?
[01:48] <zhiwei> i can't access ubuntu11.10 unity
[01:48] <zhiwei> because i can't install ubuntu-desktop
[02:03] <osmosis> has there been any testing done on Samsung Series 9 laptops?
[02:06] <Ian_Corne> magn3ts: just apt-get install gnome-shell and run gnome-shell --replace
[02:06] <Ian_Corne> zhiwei: your mirror is out of date, the packages have been fixed
[02:07] <Ian_Corne> if it's urgent you can use archive.ubuntu.com
[02:08] <magn3ts> Ian_Corne, I guess I was logging otu and trying to login to the gnome session :/
[02:08] <Ian_Corne> yeah, i don't know what that does
[02:08] <Ian_Corne> magn3ts: are you an upgrader
[02:08] <Ian_Corne> or a clean installer?
[02:08] <magn3ts> nope
[02:08] <magn3ts> I even installed a clean copy of alpha3
[02:08] <Ian_Corne> hmm
[02:09] <Ian_Corne> I think it should work then
[02:09] <magn3ts> its not a big deal, I'm just jealous of everyone that has it working
[02:09] <Ian_Corne> leme try after I'm done updating
[02:09] <magn3ts> I get NOTHING useful for an error message either
[02:09] <Ian_Corne> gnome-shell --replace works
[02:09] <magn3ts> "session gnome failed to load"
[02:09] <Ian_Corne> magn3ts: but gnome-shell isn't installed by default
[02:09] <magn3ts> I'll try that, that stands to reason that it would work
[02:09] <Ian_Corne> you installed it?
[02:09] <zhiwei> Ian_Corne: where can i find newest mirrors?
[02:10] <Ian_Corne> software sources
[02:10] <Ian_Corne> and select main archive
[02:10] <Ian_Corne> magn3ts: my "GNOME" entry works and loads gnome-shell
[02:11] <Ian_Corne> but I upgraded and I installed gnome-shell afterwards
[02:12] <magn3ts> Ian_Corne, :[
[02:12] <magn3ts> jealous
[02:12] <magn3ts> maybe it's a VM thing
[02:12] <magn3ts> though I gues have guest ex insatlled and unity/compiz work fine
[02:13] <zhiwei> Ian_Corne: thank you very much
[02:14] <Ian_Corne> NP
[02:14] <Ian_Corne> arf
[02:14] <Ian_Corne> this new "alt" thing
[02:14] <Ian_Corne> it messes with my keybinds
[02:15] <Ian_Corne> and it dosn't allow me to alt drag anymore wtf
[02:18] <Ian_Corne> magn3ts: but running gnome-shell --replace from terminal should give you _some_ information
[02:18] <Ian_Corne> no?
[02:18] <Ian_Corne> have you checked .xession-errors ?
[02:49] <xjunior> hello all
[02:49] <xjunior> I just updated my system to alpha ubuntu, and I'm with an issue
[02:50] <xjunior> I'm using ambiance theme, but, the window borders (title) is in the Radiance color
[02:50] <xjunior> before update, I was using radiance theme
[02:50] <xjunior> but now, even switching between them the window borders doesn't change
[03:23] <zhiwei> hi,all. I still can access unity,but can access unity2d
[03:24] <zhiwei> unity has no panel,but unity-2d has the panel
[03:26] <zhiwei> and on the unity-2d panel,there are two baterry.
[03:28] <zhiwei> lan_Corne: do you know why does my unity-2d panel has two baterries?
[03:29] <zhiwei> lan_Corne: and when I login unity,there are no unity-panel.
[03:50] <tiox> I just popped in to ask a question.
[03:51] <tiox> Is mutter or compiz going to be the default compositor for 11.10?
[04:00] <jbicha> tiox: Unity 3D uses compiz, only GNOME Shell uses mutter
[04:00] <tiox> Alright. Just came to ask because I heard of things about mutter possibly being in 10.11, just making sure I know what to expect on the upgrade.
[04:01] <zhiwei> jbicha: my unity has no panel
[04:01] <zhiwei> jbicha: do you know why?
[04:02] <tiox> I figured I would also ask in here, since there is some semblance of activity now, is there some way to get the indicator extension for Thunderbird 6?
[04:02] <zhiwei> jbicha: when I use unity --replace command, libcompizconfig: dlopen: /usr/lib/compizconfig/backends/libgconf.so , no such file.
[04:02] <tiox> Or, would that not work due to incompatibility between GTK2 and GTK3
[04:02] <tiox> ?
[04:03] <zhiwei> tiox: Do you know how to resolve this problem?
[04:03] <tiox> Not entirely sure.
[04:03] <tiox> Then again I don't use Unity, so I cannot entirely help.
[04:04] <tiox> Did you go into CCSM and setup compiz to store settings flat-file?
[04:05] <zhiwei> tiox: sorry,tiox. I do not know how to setup
[04:05] <tiox> There is one more thing I can think of, but it's the last resort that'll reset all gnome settings to defaults.
[04:06] <tiox> If this still works, go into a terminal (preferably by logging out and using the recovery mode), and type in gconftool --recursive-unset /
[04:07] <tiox> If that doesn't fix it, then you might have to get the file from your live session, by booting into it and finding out where that specific file is at, and putting it into your main file system.
[04:07] <zhiwei> do you have this file?
[04:07] <zhiwei> can you send this file to me?
[04:08] <tiox> No need to send it if it's a part of Ubuntu. Just use gnome-search-tool and look through your file system for it.
[04:08] <zhiwei> tiox: And there are two battery icons in my unity-2d panel
[04:08]  * tiox blinks
[04:09] <tiox> Don't know how that would happen, unless you installed a different battery indicator. So they both function the same?
[04:09] <tiox> Do they both*
[04:11] <zhiwei> there are one libgconf.so in /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon-3.0 directory
[04:11] <zhiwei> could I copy this file to that dir?
[04:12] <tiox> If it's already in there, I am not sure what that would do. Again, take my advice and go with what I said earlier.
[04:12] <zhiwei> ok,thank you. I will do what you said after lunch.
[04:13] <tiox> Log out, go into the recovery console, and in the copy of xterm that pops up, type in gconftool --recursive-unset /
[04:13] <tiox> If that doesn't fix it, then not much else will, except maybe discussion with someone more well-versed.
[04:14] <tiox> BTW, recovery console is a selectable session at the login window.
[04:15] <tiox> if there is no option to log out, then typing in gnome-session-save --logout will work.
[04:15] <tiox> Not sure how the recovery console actually works, but last time I did use it, all it showed me was a terminal. :)
[05:56] <Mirv> has someone else now that pressing just alt immediately brings on task switcher, so basically any alt+ḱey combinations don't work? didn't find a related bug report, but started after yesterday.
[05:58] <Mirv> also please say if you don't have the problem :) (with unity)
[06:38] <bullgard4_> Mirv: I am using GNOME 3. In my GNOME 3 there is no irregular use of the Alt key.
[06:46] <Mirv> bullgard4_: it's definitely Unity related, so I'm interested in other Unity (3D) users
[06:47] <jbicha> Mirv: alt works for me on Unity 3D, it's supposed to focus the File/Edit/View menu
[06:48] <Mirv> jbicha: ok, thanks for confirming. I thought so since there wasn't an uproar. now I'd just need to find out what's wrong on my oneiric.
[06:49] <jbicha> sometimes things break inconsistently, for instance I didn't get the orange-yellow dash every time
[06:52] <alkisg> What's the equivalent of the "icedove-gcontactsync" debian package in oneiric? For syncronizing gmail contacts with thunderbird...
[06:57] <saaam> hello i cant install ubuntu 11.10....ubiquity crashes at user pic selection. Is there a way to disable integrated webcam or start text based installer in live mode?
[06:58] <jbicha> alkisg: Ubuntu intentionally doesn't ship many Mozilla addons, you can download it from the built-in Get Addons
[06:58] <alkisg> jbicha: ouch, that goes for thunderbird too? we can't do that for thousands of users...
[07:00] <alkisg> jbicha: thank you, I'll see if I can find a ppa or something :-/
[07:12] <micahg> alkisg: it's a maintenance nightmare since we plan on upgrading thunderbird as well with the rapid release cycle once 3.1.x is EOL
[07:23] <alkisg> I understand the problem, but many other packages had similar problems and they solved them, one way or the other. Vbox/nvidia use dkms, flashplugin even downloads the plugin from the adobe site...
[07:24] <alkisg> I think there's a ppa for mozilla extensions which would be enough for now.. /me searches...
[07:25] <zhiwei> jbicha: hello jbicha. I still can't access unity after I use official source list and update dist.
[07:25] <psalden> during boot, a few lines pop up, but go away before I can read them, transitioning into what appears to be some graphical fallback of lightdm. Any way to find those lines in some log?
[07:25] <zhiwei> jbicha: there are no panel in unity, and two battery icons on unity-2d.
[07:27] <alkisg> psalden: try alt+ctrl+f1, login, and sudo cat /dev/vcs7
[07:28] <psalden> ok, will do
[07:29] <zhiwei> alkisg: do you know how to resolve my problem?
[07:30] <zhiwei> alkisg: there is no panel in my unity, and two battery icons in my unity-2d.
[07:30] <zhiwei> unity-2d has the panel
[07:30] <alkisg> zhiwei: please ask in the channel, don't ping specific persons... I don't know the history of your problem that you mention
[07:30] <alkisg> (and btw I'm about to leave :))
[07:31] <Mirv> I have two batteries reported in Unity-3d, one real and one claims-to-be-empty
[07:31] <Mirv> but I now switched to gnome-shell since I've some work to do. back to the Alt button problem later :)
[07:31] <zhiwei> my unity-3d has no panel, so i use unity-2d.
[07:32] <zhiwei> can any one know how to resolve my problem?
[07:32] <saamm> how can i  start text installer in live mode?
[07:33] <psalden> alkisg: there doesn't seem to be a vcs7
[07:33] <psalden> only up to 6
[07:33] <zhiwei> I update 11.10 on Wendesday,and after the update,there is no panel.
[07:34] <alkisg> psalden: sorry, I haven't tried it in oneiric, it worked on previous versions, I don't know what changed
[07:34] <psalden> ok then, thanks anyway. If anyone else using the radeon driver is having this 'alternative' login screen displayed, lemme know
[07:37] <saamm> ubiquity is crashing at user pic option...is there any way to skip this step, disbale webcam or start text based installer?
[07:39] <alkisg> saamm: lspci -nn -k, see which module is used, and modprobe -r it?
[07:40] <jbicha> zhiwei: I don't know anything about why your computer doesn't work, you can try reporting a bug
[07:40] <jbicha> I've not heard of anyone else with your specific problem so maybe something's wrong on your end
[07:48] <Ian_Corne> nope, this alt stuff is making me go bananas
[07:56] <valdur55> Hello. I have problem with radiotray in 11.10. It shows first time config. App indicator is only right , when i choose System tray icon, it fails to load
[07:58] <yellabs-r2> hello there
[07:58] <yellabs-r2> is it early for you all ?
[07:58] <valdur55> hello.
[07:59] <valdur55> It's 10:58 :D
[07:59] <yellabs-r2> tested daily build , yesterday and today on an linux friendly machine, OneiricOcelot, no boot to desktop, black screen nothing happens
[08:00] <valdur55> i have same problem.
[08:00] <yellabs-r2> ibm thinkpad T60, dell optiplex GX620 , both the same result , black screen no boot to desktop ( unity issue ? )
[08:00] <valdur55> Test Alpha3
[08:01] <yellabs-r2> you dont get past the first boot screen either ?
[08:01] <makara> hi. i need to test a usb wifi device on my laptop, but when I plug it in Ubuntu ignores its capabilities - I imagine because the notebook has its own wifi. How can I switch this off? Or connect the device directly with iw?
[08:02] <valdur55> I see plymouth and then it's black screen
[08:02] <yellabs-r2> notebook might have an harddware switch for wifi ?
[08:02] <yellabs-r2> plymouth and then black screen right,..
[08:02] <yellabs-r2> same here
[08:02] <yellabs-r2> maybe they forgot the installer somehow ?
[08:02] <valdur55> but. in tty is some errors
[08:03] <valdur55> tty1 '
[08:03] <valdur55> Ctrl+Alt+F1
[08:04] <yellabs-r2> crtl+alt+F1 , then startx , does not help much i guess
[08:04] <yellabs-r2> ?
[08:04] <makara> yellabs-r2, my notebook wifi switch broke, so the guy set it to always on
[08:04] <yellabs-r2> ah
[08:04] <yellabs-r2> ok
[08:04] <valdur55> you need firstly kill lightdm with "/etc/init.d/lightdm stop"
[08:05] <makara> i should be able to fn-F8 to switch it, but Ubuntu doesn't seem to recognize that
[08:05] <valdur55> and then i executed unity .... Then comes lines in screen.
[08:05] <yellabs-r2> i think in network settings your new wifi device should show up as well as the old ..
[08:05] <valdur55> makara, go to #ubuntu chat. this is not dev version problem
[08:06] <yellabs-r2> maybe the command lspci shows if its listed
[08:07] <yellabs-r2> and ifconfig etc
[08:07] <yellabs-r2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[08:08] <yellabs-r2> there you find all the things you can try with the wifi
[08:08] <yellabs-r2> iwconfig is maybe a good start
[08:09] <yellabs-r2> when lightdm is killed, you can get to an desktop ?
[08:10] <valdur55> yellabs-r2, then comes lines in screen and mouse cursor in terminal :)
[08:10] <yellabs-r2> hehe
[08:10] <yellabs-r2> we better wait untill its fixed..
[08:11] <valdur55> yes.
[08:24] <yellabs-r2> okey, take care
[08:24] <yellabs-r2> got to run..
[08:24] <yellabs-r2> bye all
[08:30] <beef2011> I just got my rt3090 card to work under Natty, if I upgrade to Oneiric in october will my card still work?
[09:14] <Lynoure> hmm, seems that at the latest upgrade my sounds stopped completely
[09:15] <Lynoure> ah, alsamixer mute
[09:15] <jtaylor> my sound was set to mute, but it seems I can just unmute it again
[09:16] <Lynoure> funny, this is a hickup that repeats year after year
[09:16] <Lynoure> so on some level I go "it must be something else (as that is too trivial)"
[09:19] <IdleOne> Lynoure: I think you found the glitch in the matrix
[09:20] <Lynoure> IdleOne: :) rejavu :)
[09:20] <IdleOne> deja vu but yeah :)
[09:21] <Lynoure> IdleOne: different term
[09:21] <Lynoure> IdleOne: reja vu = sense that you are going to be seeing this again =)
[09:22] <IdleOne> hmm never heard that before
[09:23] <Lynoure> uh, Amarok still parses my collection wrong, not detecting artists for all songs and when my collection is is ~/Audio/music  also taking stuff from ~/Audio/emusic somehow
[09:23] <Lynoure> (thus treating my audiobook chapters as songs)
[09:23] <Arnold> Hello. I would like to know something about ubiquity (unsure if that's the current problem with Ubuntu daily).
[09:24] <Arnold> Someone informed me that it's being transitioned to GTK+ 3. Is that true?
[09:27] <Arnold> If it's indeed true, than that would explain why the Installer doesn't works quite well at the moment.
[09:31] <sagaci> has it been fixed yet? I tried the daily Aug25th version and it didn't work
[09:31] <sagaci> just wondering if it installs ok under the alternate iso with desktop
[09:31] <sagaci> (installed)
[09:33] <Arnold> sagaci: I tried today's one and still nothing nowhere
[09:37] <Arnold> All goes fine, except when it says "Ready when you are..." and you click Continue, it seems that there's a brief refresh on the installer's window, and all buttons becomes inactive.
[09:38] <sagaci> yeah that's right, have you tried the alternate iso
[09:38] <Arnold> sagaci: Have you tried to install it with or without a swap partition mounted to it?
[09:38] <Arnold> Not yet.
[09:38] <sagaci> i'm about to but it usually fails on the grub install for me
[09:39] <Arnold> Since I noticed that the dialog where it says that you don't have a swap partition mounted is bigger than before.
[09:39] <sagaci> ah ok, didn't notice that
[09:40] <Arnold> So I'm guessing that ubiquity-gtk IS ported to GTK+ 3, but still unclear about that.
[09:40] <sagaci> yeah it looks gtk3 ish
[09:41] <sagaci> just burning it to unetbootin, the alt iso
[09:41] <Arnold> Alright, good luck with that.
[09:41] <Arnold> Although I do think the installer will be fully functional before it hits Beta 1 next week.
[09:42] <sagaci> yeah hopefully
[10:01] <antihero> Sound not working. Devices are on aplay -l
[10:02] <antihero> but nothing is coming out
[10:02] <antihero> any ideas?
[10:03] <lenios> try alsamixer
[10:03] <antihero> what am I looking for
[10:03] <lenios> mute
[10:03] <lenios> is there something muted or at 0%?
[10:04] <antihero> no
[10:05] <antihero> Got it!
[10:05] <antihero> my device had become unpreffered in the kde thingy
[10:05] <lenios> oh, using kde
[10:06] <antihero> ya
[10:06] <antihero> ah well
[10:06] <antihero> problem solved
[10:06] <lenios> gnome-shell is interesting in oneiric
[11:39] <Milos_SD> Hi... Is there any partial updates today? I would like to upgrade from 11.04, but if there are partial updates, I will not do it today :)
[11:41] <vega__> don't know, beta freeze was yesterday.. maybe wait a day or two?
[11:50] <jtaylor> it also depends on your mirror
[11:50] <jtaylor> I didn't have any problematic updates a few hours ago
[11:51] <Milos_SD> jtaylor, I use main repository always... :)
[12:03] <drussell> jtaylor: I've not had any updates for about 48hours... have others been rolled out?
[12:03] <jtaylor> maybe your mirror is out of date
[12:04] <jtaylor> e.g. de.archive is completely broken last time I checked
[12:09] <drussell> jtaylor: possibly, I'm in the UK
[12:10] <jtaylor> drussell: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[12:12] <drussell> jtaylor: ahhh great! thanks
[12:13] <bullgard4_> [GNOME 3] What can a user of the Guest Account do and what can he not do?
[12:13] <jtaylor> I heard it is uses a tmpfs so no disk changes
[12:14] <jbicha> bullgard4_: this is short but might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/shell-guest-session.html
[12:18] <sagaci> having trouble with oneiric with the keyboard, with the ´ ¨ keys, I have to press them twice, how do I configure keyboard settings in gnome3
[12:19] <drussell> jtaylor: yup, that has done it, odd that so many of the mirrors seem out of date
[12:33] <bullgard4_> jbicha Thank you for providing this very interesting link.
[12:34] <bullgard4_> sagaci: This is the intended default behaviour. This regime is called 'deadkeys'. -- You could try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup'.
[12:38] <bazhang> !info perl
[12:45] <drussell> hmm slightly disturbing when, following an update, I start up thunderbird and it introduces itself as
[12:45] <drussell> "a new nightly build, named *shredder*"
[12:45]  * drussell hopes it won't shred all my email
[12:47] <jtaylor> ^^
[12:49] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:50] <Ian_Corne> lol
[12:53] <drussell> *sigh* but xul-ext-lightning hasn't been updated to match thunderbird
[12:54] <drussell> so calendaring is now broken
[12:54] <drussell> Bug #834680
[12:54] <drussell> would appreciate if someone else could confirm
[12:56] <BluesKaj> lost google earth after upgrade last night , ia32-libs dependencies , lib32v4l-0, libv4l-0..wonder when they will be restored
[13:02] <lucidfox> Any idea why my Unity backgrounds are lime green?
[13:03] <penguin42> at least the main unity pop up isn't lurid orange any more
[13:06] <drussell> lucidfox: I have seen strange green underlining following an intel gpu lock/crash of some sort
[13:06] <drussell> s/underlining/highlighting/
[13:07] <lucidfox> I'm on NVIDIA, with the proprietary driver
[13:07] <drussell> lucidfox: ahh in that case, not a clue
[13:07] <drussell> lucidfox: however green is the nvidia corporate colour ;o)
[13:07] <lucidfox> :D
[13:11] <lucidfox> Also, what is the "GTK Loader" Compiz plugin for?
[13:29] <alex_mayorga> is a dist-upgrade safe now?
[13:30] <jtaylor> depends what does it want to remove?
[13:38] <alex_mayorga> jtaylor: console-terminus ia32-libs lib32v4l-0 skype teamviewer6
[13:38] <alex_mayorga> I can live without skype and teamviewer
[13:39] <ior3k> it seems all control panel related commands (like "system info", "system settings", and likely others) only show the gnome control panel, and that only shows 3 items: ubuntu one, additional drivers and software sources
[13:39] <jtaylor> then its probably save
[13:39] <ior3k> anyone else experiencing this?
[13:39] <jtaylor> alex_mayorga: do you have multiarch enabled?
[13:39] <alex_mayorga> jtaylor: yes
[13:40] <alex_mayorga> I thought that was the mandate for now, wasn't it?
[13:40] <jtaylor> for some packages yes
[13:43] <alex_mayorga> jtaylor: shall I disable it?
[13:44] <jtaylor> alex_mayorga: why would you?
[13:45] <alex_mayorga> jtaylor: dunno, as you said "for some"
[13:45] <jtaylor> its required for e.g. flashplugin
[13:45] <alex_mayorga> I have been 64 bit only for the past two release cycles
[13:45] <jtaylor> skype will likely follow soon
[13:45] <jtaylor> that you had ia32libs installed speaks otherwise :)
[13:46] <alex_mayorga> who knows, I set up this laptop with the 64 bit desktop CD IIRC
[13:47] <alex_mayorga> perhaps skype pulled that one
[13:48] <genii-around> Meh. http://imagebin.org/169737
[13:49] <jtaylor> skype is 32 bit
[13:49] <jtaylor> as is probably teamviewer6
[13:51] <BluesKaj> genii-around, https://launchpad.net/~sevenmachines/+archive/flash/+packages
[13:52] <genii-around> BluesKaj: Yeah, mostly just annoying though.
[13:53] <alex_mayorga> I've honestly not seen a worthy use of Flash in quite some time now
[13:54] <BluesKaj> yeah genii-around , I wish the html5 was in effect on more sites
[14:03] <penguin42> even Google hasn't quite got it right on youtube in html5 yet - still some of their stuff is a bit touchy
[14:05] <Ian_Corne> well, it playes a lot smoother then flash for mHD or HD
[14:05] <Ian_Corne> for me atleast
[14:09] <zhiwei> and my unity2d has two battery icons in panel.
[14:12] <Ian_Corne> ha :p
[14:12] <Ian_Corne> can't help you with that
[14:12] <zhiwei> I am downloading ccsm now
[14:12] <sagaci> so flash is uninstallable via apt/dpkg at the moment, yeah?
[14:12] <jtaylor> sagaci: without multiarch yes
[14:12] <penguin42> yeh it's just an Ubuntu packing issue on +1 - it'll get fixed
[14:12] <penguin42> and welcome to an Alpha release :-)
[14:13] <sagaci> jtaylor, so manually copy the .so file, yeah?
[14:13] <jtaylor> I could install flash with no problems
[14:14] <jtaylor> manauylly copying should work to, if oyuahve the necessary dependencies
[14:16] <sagaci> i'll try the flash 11 64bit beta 2
[14:17] <genii-around> sagaci: I just ran a series of tests here with it, no issues so far.
[14:17] <sagaci> i almost always use the repo flash but i'll make an exception for this time
[14:19] <sagaci> yep, it works now
[14:19] <BluesKaj> lost google earth last nite , dependeency hell again with ia32libs ...why can't google make a real 64 bit version?
[14:20] <zhiwei> hello, when I use ccsm to enable ubuntu-unity-plugin,I still can see unity-panel in unity3d
[14:26] <geser> BluesKaj: not enough multiarch-enabled packages to run it?
[14:28]  * genii-around waits for vahid to show up
[14:30] <BluesKaj> geser, dunno ...I'm gonna try the method here , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth#Using%20make-googleearth-package
[14:32] <vahid> hi
[14:33] <vahid> hi
[14:42] <alex_mayorga> does anyone know the bug of not being able to see other months other than the current one in the panel?
[14:46] <sagaci> alex_mayorga, i'm getting it too
[14:47] <drussell> alex_mayorga: do you have date and time set to "internet" ?
[14:47] <drussell> alex_mayorga: I haven't tried, but I assume if you set it to "manual" you can probably change the month etc
[14:48] <drussell> alex_mayorga: cancel that... just set it to manual and you still can't change the month
[14:49] <drussell> alex_mayorga: must be someone elses turn to file a bug, I've reached my 10 a day today ;o)
[14:52] <alex_mayorga> drussell: you're right
[14:52] <alex_mayorga> but back in gnome days I was able to see other months even with this settings
[14:52] <drussell> alex_mayorga: agreed
[14:53] <drussell> alex_mayorga: I used to use it for the same thing also
[14:53] <alex_mayorga> drussell: can you bug it? if only for gnome parity it should be there IMHO
[14:54] <antihero>  Anyone got any idea when nspluginviewer will be updated?
[14:54] <drussell> alex_mayorga: I think you're right, need to search launchpad first
[14:55] <antihero> Because nspluginwrapper sems to depend on it
[14:55] <antihero> but it isn't installable
[14:55] <drussell> alex_mayorga: already exists, please add yourself to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/807509
[14:55] <drussell> alex_mayorga: will do the same
[14:58] <yofel> antihero: do you have multiarch enabled? nspluginviewer is i386 only
[15:01] <alex_mayorga> drussell: done, thanks!
[15:01] <drussell> alex_mayorga: no problem
[15:02] <antihero> yofel: How do I enable that?
[15:03] <yofel> antihero: make sure you have a line with 'foreign-architecture i386' in /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg
[15:03] <antihero> then aptitude update?
[15:04] <yofel> right, but you'll need to use apt-get, aptitude doesn't support multiarch yet
[15:16] <magn3ts> EW
[15:16] <magn3ts> USC icons are blurry in the toolbar
[15:31] <antihero> yofel: But I've had flash before using x64 only
[15:31] <antihero> basically flash doesnt work because it cant install nspluginwrapper
[15:31] <antihero> since last update
[15:34] <BluesKaj> just lost k3b , in an upgrade , I hope dd still works
[15:34]  * genii-around makes a note not to lose his k3b
[15:35] <BluesKaj> this is getting worse rather than better :)
[15:35] <drussell> I stopped installing k3b a few releases ago, the gnome tools do all I need now
[15:37] <antihero> yofel: It didnt install even with that line
[15:38] <antihero> yofel: because the 32 bit libraries it depended on conflicted with my 64 bit ones
[15:43] <BluesKaj> drussell, I'm running kde, but i seldom use k3b , so it's not so bad ...I guess
[15:45] <BluesKaj> BBL ...
[15:46] <topyli> how do you restore unity settings to default?
[15:47] <topyli> i think i have some old cruft that makes my unity all wonky
[15:51] <drussell> BluesKaj: heh
[15:52] <yofel> antihero: hm, dunno then, I use flash  64 manually installed. Maybe the packages here work: https://launchpad.net/~sevenmachines/+archive/flash/+packages
[15:52] <antihero> yofel: Do you mean getting the x64 beta from the flash site?
[15:52] <antihero> How do you install that? tar xf in /
[15:53] <yofel> well, first try the PPA, I manually put the libflashplugin.so in ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[15:53] <antihero> yofel: Guess that wont work for chrome?
[15:53] <yofel> no idea
[15:55] <edgy> Hi, when I try to install wine I get: Depends: ia32-libs (>= 1.6) but it is not going to be installed
[15:55] <antihero> woo! PPA worked :)
[15:55] <TheSimkin> hey guys
[16:20] <Vanillalite> Okay so both Chrome (not chromium) and Firefox tell me either flash is disabled (chrome) or flash isn't installed Firefox.... any ideas?
[16:22] <topyli> i thought chrome comes with flash bundled in
[16:23] <Vanillalite> it does... tells me it's disabled when I do about:flash
[16:23] <Vanillalite> and it's not in my list when I do about:plugins to reinable
[16:23] <Vanillalite> Firefox just straight up tells me Flash isn't installed... and when I go to the software center flash won't install for some reason
[16:24] <topyli> enjoy sane web while it's broken :)
[16:24] <jtaylor> apt-get install flashplugin-installer:i386 should work
[16:26] <Vanillalite> thanks for the tip jtaylor
[16:27] <Vanillalite> got it to work now as someone on the ubuntu web forums posted a link to a community made FF addon for linux that installs flash and fixes everything for you... just tried that and it worked for both chrome and firefox!
[16:28] <Vanillalite> it installed a 64bit beta of flash so it was probably some weird issue with that... and btw lol@enjoy the web while flash is broken hehehehe
[16:30] <Vanillalite> *knocks on wood* I appear to be currently problem free in Oneiric w00t!
[16:31] <Ian_Corne> what video card? :)
[16:31] <Ian_Corne> i still get rendering corruption
[16:32] <Ian_Corne> and does jocket-gtk work for you?
[16:34] <Vanillalite> I have an ATI 4830
[16:34] <Vanillalite> if you are talking to me :P
[16:34] <Vanillalite> I had that big widespread ATI/Unity bug that broke regular Unity and only 2d worked... they fixed that this week in one of the updates so I've been pretty much solid since
[16:35] <drussell> Vanillalite: try adding a printer.... :o)
[16:36] <Arnold> I see that the current daily live image is under 700MB in size.
[16:36] <Vanillalite> to be fair I don't think I even have a printer hooked up to my desktop lol
[16:37] <Arnold> I hope the first beta will be quite a solid release for a more broader testing public :)
[16:38] <antihero> goddamnit all to hell
[16:39] <antihero> done a reboot and my soundcards have disappeared AGAIN
[16:39] <Vanillalite> yeah most of the linux people I chat with on the one forum I hang out with are all waiting to try Oneiric next week with the beta for the 1st time
[16:40] <antihero> why would my soundcards not be showing up in aplay
[16:40] <antihero> -l
[16:40] <antihero> kernel modules are all loaded
[16:41] <TheSimkin> hey guys, is there anyway to "mask" a package
[16:41] <TheSimkin> so it won't upgrade for a bit?
[16:42] <jtaylor> man apt_preferences
[16:43] <jtaylor> e.g. http://paste.ubuntu.com/675362/
[16:43] <drussell> Vanillalite: yeah, it's only us truly twisted folk who enjoy all the brokenness early :o)
[16:45] <Arnold> drussell, I was kind of forced on not using Ubuntu between Alpha 1 - Alpha 3, because of a libcairo regression or some sorts.
[16:45] <Arnold> So that GTK+ applications were using thrice the memory it should need. A clean Ubuntu desktop in Unity was already using 600MB of 1GB at that time.
[16:46] <Vanillalite> any benefits of doing a clean install when the beta hits or can I just roll with what I have now?
[16:48] <Ian_Corne> TheSimkin: in synaptic, you can lock packages I think
[16:48] <jtaylor> but it won't lock them for apt-get
[16:48] <Arnold> Just found out that it's possible to dd the image into an external device under Cygwin too. :P
[16:48] <Ian_Corne> ah
[16:49] <jtaylor> same aptitude hold will also not hold for apt-get :/
[16:49] <TheSimkin> Arnold: dd works in windows?
[16:49] <Arnold> TheSimkin, just tried it today, and it really works. Works if you get the base packages of Cygwin installed
[16:50] <TheSimkin> Arnold: wow
[16:51] <Arnold> Then you do the exactly same way as in Linux: dd if=oneiric-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/sd[x] bs=4M, where [X] is the device's number
[16:57] <BluesKaj> ok k3b-data finally upgraded and k3b installed successfully :)
[17:11] <BluesKaj> other oneiric desktop pc input devices are freezing again and ssh is errorring out , 'no route to host"
[17:15] <Arnold> So pretty much even the non-core packages are frozen until Oneiric's release?
[17:16] <Vanillalite> as far as I know with the beta coming soon everything is in a freeze state outside of maybe the kernel
[17:17] <Vanillalite> btw is it possible to hide your mounted drives that appear in the unity bar? and if so how would one go about doing that?
[17:17] <Arnold> That and GNOME. Too bad, I was hoping that Subversion 1.7 would be uploaded if it's stabilized before Oneiric is released.
[17:17] <Arnold> Vanillalite, it's possible if you install ccsm and configure it from there.
[17:17] <penguin42> is it just me...or has the button at the top left that lets you bring up the vertical unity thing gone?
[17:18] <Arnold> Sorry, it's "compizconfig-settings-manager"
[17:18] <DanaG> penguin42: yup, now it's a dock icon.
[17:18] <DanaG> Breaks Fitt's Law.
[17:18] <Vanillalite> as far as I know that was part of the unity design for 11.10
[17:18] <DanaG> One gripe I have with Unity: the lag on the button.
[17:18] <penguin42> DanaG: But how do I get it to appear if it's a Dock icon?
[17:18] <DanaG> Oh, I see.. the dock icon is for the whole dash.
[17:19] <DanaG> I was confused.
[17:19] <DanaG> What I mean by lag:  you click the "dash" icon, and get no indication of a response... for just long enough to make you click it again.
[17:19] <DanaG> And then it opens.
[17:19] <DanaG> What it should do: draw the icon in a "pressed" state the very moment you click on it.  Then lagging before open is okay.
[17:20] <DanaG> It's like those DVD drives that wait to eject... just long enough to make you press it again (argh!).
[17:20] <Vanillalite> it's pretty fast for me if I just use the command key
[17:20] <Vanillalite> faster than when I use my pointer anyways
[17:22] <BluesKaj> ok, fixed the other pc for now , but it seems to periodically have an input device recognition prob , freezing KB and mouse.
[17:23] <BluesKaj> wonder if others with an older pc have the same ..it's an amd compaq single cpu 64bit cpu from 2006
[17:24] <BluesKaj> single core
[17:24] <Vanillalite> you using usb or ps2 ports?
[17:25] <BluesKaj> usb mouse , normal din input on KB
[17:26] <Arnold> Can't seem to get libnotify to work in Pidgin anymore. It's grayed out and it also says in red "Error: undefined symbol: indicate_indicator_set_property_icon | Check the plugin website for an update."
[17:27] <penguin42> BluesKaj: My dad has similar problems on Debian on one of his machines
[17:27] <penguin42> BluesKaj: Of course it's very difficult to figure out what the problem actually is - he thinks PS/2 but who knows given the machines age
[17:28] <BluesKaj> penguin42, is it 5 or 6 yrs old , like mine ?
[17:28] <penguin42> BluesKaj: Probably a bit older
[17:28] <BluesKaj> ps2? is that same as DIN 5pin?
[17:29] <penguin42> BluesKaj: Yeh, the smaller DIN connectors
[17:29] <BluesKaj> ok
[17:29] <penguin42> BluesKaj: If you unplug and plug the PS/2 backin does it come back?
[17:29] <BluesKaj> penguin42, no
[17:29] <penguin42> BluesKaj: Mind you, you were losing networking as well - that's a full kernel crash probably
[17:30] <BluesKaj> it must have rebooted for some reason and was stuck at the grub menu , that's why ssh wouldn
[17:30] <BluesKaj> 'tconnect
[17:33] <BluesKaj> penguin42, when I left it was loading the desktop , then it must have rebooted., which is very odd
[17:42] <Arnold> Will the indicator-session-menu will show the usericon instead of the current head icon?
[17:42] <phoenix_firebrd> is it save to install the nvidia proprietary driver in 11.10
[17:43] <phoenix_firebrd> is it safe to install the nvidia proprietary driver in 11.10
[17:47] <Vanillalite> hello again :P
[17:48] <Vanillalite> hey what's an easy way to purge old kernels in ubuntu server?
[18:12] <Arnold> It's great that we got OpenSSL 1.0.0, but what about the softwares that still wants to locate libssl.so.0.9.8?
[18:14] <Arnold> Nevermind, there is still libssl0.9.8 existing in the repository. :P
[18:39] <h00k> So, clicking on the 'Applications' lens on the bottom of the unity launcher doesn't quite do anything yet...this is on purpose, right?
[18:39] <AlanBell> h00k: works for me (for small values of works)
[18:39] <h00k> AlanBell: hmmm, it would close the unity menu.
[18:39] <AlanBell> I am hacking on an alternative to the applications lens at the moment
[18:39] <h00k> Maybe I'll update and try today.
[18:40] <AlanBell> if I can have an applications lens that is remotely useable then I will start using Unity
[18:41] <AlanBell> looks like there is no intention to make the default one make sense
[18:44] <AlanBell> h00k: the more apps button doesn't work for me, but I presume that is because I broke it
[18:46] <h00k> AlanBell: no, it didn't work last time I tried it, either
[18:58] <alex_mayorga> anyone else's top bar going transparent?
[18:58] <alex_mayorga> looks like dash doesn't appears on top of maximized Firefox
[18:58] <alex_mayorga> nor Alt+Tab :(
[18:59] <alex_mayorga> confirmed Alt+Tab remains under *all* windows, rather anoying
[19:27] <alex_mayorga> is there a way to reset unity so it behaves correctly again?
[19:30] <genii-around> I believe it's unity-reset
[19:30] <mongy> unity --reset
[19:39] <alex_mayorga> mongy, genii-around: thanks
[19:39] <alex_mayorga> tyring
[19:42] <alex_mayorga> got some WARNs in there, should I report?
[19:50] <drussell> alex_mayorga: my alt-tab works as expected and dash appears over maximised firefox
[19:51] <alex_mayorga> drussell: thanks on the non-confirm
[19:51] <drussell> alex_mayorga: that said, I did get that problem a few days back, but I've had a whole load of updates since changing to a more up to date mirror today
[19:52] <drussell> alex_mayorga: check https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors for a more up to date mirror if you've not seen updates in the last few hours
[19:52] <alex_mayorga> drussell: thanks, I will
[19:52] <drussell> alex_mayorga: np, good luck :o)
[19:52] <alex_mayorga> can someone take a look at this http://paste.ubuntu.com/675494/ and tell me if anything is glaringly wrong?
[19:54] <drussell> alex_mayorga: no idea, whenever I run any of the unity things from the commandline I see a lot of stuff spat out that concerns me, however everything seems to run fine
[19:54] <drussell> alex_mayorga: if it's behaving normally following a reset I wouldn't worry about it
[19:55] <drussell> alex_mayorga: however if it's still strange, try using apt-file to see where those missing files should come from
[20:04] <BUGabundo> greeting
[21:09] <jakemp> I noticed a bug with fill screen movie player, when I move to another desktop the play/progress bar at the bottom follows me
[21:10] <jakemp> *full screen
[21:12] <BUGabundo> saw that too a couple times
[22:49] <zhiwei>  dlopen: /usr/lib/compizconfig/backends/libgconf.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file .  how to resolve this problem?
[22:50] <billybigrigger_> do you have gconf installed?
[22:50] <jtaylor> which program?
[22:50] <jtaylor> the file is in the package: compizconfig-backend-gconf
[22:51] <billybigrigger_> i thought gconf was useless now in with gtk3?
[22:51] <zhiwei> http://askubuntu.com/questions/32290/unity-desktop-couldnt-find-a-perfect-decorator-match
[22:51] <zhiwei> this is the same  case
[22:52] <zhiwei> I will try to reinstall compiz-gnome
[22:52] <billybigrigger_> zhiwei, do you have compizconfig-backend-gconf installed?
[22:53] <billybigrigger_> in a terminal type sudo apt-cache policy compizconfig-backend-gconf
[22:53] <jtaylor> apt-cache needs no sudo
[22:53] <billybigrigger_> fair enough :P
[22:53] <billybigrigger_> zhiwei, you installed version and candidate version should match
[22:53] <zhiwei> billybigrigger_: Installed: (none)
[22:54] <billybigrigger_> ok install it
[22:54] <zhiwei> ok
[22:54] <billybigrigger_> which is weird it should be already
[22:55] <zhiwei> billybigrigger_: I installed it,and how to do next?
[22:55] <billybigrigger_> continue on with whatever you were doing
[22:56] <billybigrigger_> what were you doing when you got the error?
[23:35] <zhiwei> billybigrigger_: I still have this problem,unity 3d has no laucher and top panel.
[23:43] <zhiwei> mad now...
[23:43] <zhiwei> I am still can access unity3d
[23:44] <zhiwei> unity-panel-service: no process found , this is the new problem