[00:15] It would appear that wine is borked on my machine :( [00:16] you left the cork out? [00:16] ahaha [00:30] nite [00:30] It would appear that wine is borked on my machine :( [00:31] wine : Depends: wine1.2 but it is not going to be installed; Depends: ia32-libs (>= 1.6) but it is not going to be installed [00:31] it's not wine [00:31] it's ia32-libs [00:31] I have the same issue [00:31] no ia32-libs == wine borked. [00:31] uhu [00:32] * Onlyodin wond'ers what the impossible combination' is [00:32] grr [00:32] stupid touchpad [00:59] hey all [00:59] I'd like to contribute to Ubuntu 12.04. :) who do I talk to? [01:00] in what way? [01:00] I was thinking a new login sound/tune would be sweet [01:00] * Ian_Corne hasn't heard a login sound/tune in years [01:01] :p [01:01] so you against the developers does that sound possible [01:01] sure [01:01] after all, the developers are not musicians..am I right? :) [01:02] I just think the current login sound is super old, and not all that exciting [01:02] Ubuntu is looking really sharp lately [01:02] it needs something more appropriate [01:02] MDesigner, me to I want John Coltrane there. [01:03] I don't think that fits too well ;) [01:03] I think the login sound was meant to change along the theme. [01:03] But it kept getting postponed. [01:03] well, who do I talk to about composing the next login sound? [01:04] I have no idea MDesigner [01:04] but asking here is a good start [01:04] hmm [01:04] is there a package that hold the system sounds? [01:04] would someone in #ubuntu know, maybe? [01:04] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio [01:04] you could file a bug against it [01:04] that's what we're good at here, filing bugs :) [01:04] hehe [01:05] i think there's a ubuntu-artwork somewhere, they would probably know [01:05] lemme ask in #ubuntu real quick.. apologies to anyone here who is also there & has to hear me blab again :D [01:05] it's ok [01:05] It's quite quiet this late at night usually :) [01:06] whew. too noisy in #ubuntu to be heard I think :D [01:07] yeah, i never go there to ask anything :D [01:07] it scares me [01:07] try #ubuntu-artwork [01:07] but i bet it will be quiet in there [01:08] thanks [01:08] mailing their mailinglist might help too [01:09] in fact no one has spoken on that channel in days [01:09] ha [01:09] well if there's people there [01:09] so yeah, mailing list : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork [01:09] they might react [01:09] just idle there [01:09] and wait for a response [01:09] yeah you never know [01:09] and mail :) [01:11] gotcha [01:11] thanks guys [01:14] sleeptime for me [01:40] Ok, how on earth are you people getting gnome-shell to run in Oneiric? [01:48] i can't access ubuntu11.10 unity [01:48] because i can't install ubuntu-desktop [02:03] has there been any testing done on Samsung Series 9 laptops? [02:06] magn3ts: just apt-get install gnome-shell and run gnome-shell --replace [02:06] zhiwei: your mirror is out of date, the packages have been fixed [02:07] if it's urgent you can use archive.ubuntu.com [02:08] Ian_Corne, I guess I was logging otu and trying to login to the gnome session :/ [02:08] yeah, i don't know what that does [02:08] magn3ts: are you an upgrader [02:08] or a clean installer? [02:08] nope [02:08] I even installed a clean copy of alpha3 [02:08] hmm [02:09] I think it should work then [02:09] its not a big deal, I'm just jealous of everyone that has it working [02:09] leme try after I'm done updating [02:09] I get NOTHING useful for an error message either [02:09] gnome-shell --replace works [02:09] "session gnome failed to load" [02:09] magn3ts: but gnome-shell isn't installed by default [02:09] I'll try that, that stands to reason that it would work [02:09] you installed it? [02:09] Ian_Corne: where can i find newest mirrors? [02:10] software sources [02:10] and select main archive [02:10] magn3ts: my "GNOME" entry works and loads gnome-shell [02:11] but I upgraded and I installed gnome-shell afterwards [02:12] Ian_Corne, :[ [02:12] jealous [02:12] maybe it's a VM thing [02:12] though I gues have guest ex insatlled and unity/compiz work fine [02:13] Ian_Corne: thank you very much [02:14] NP [02:14] arf [02:14] this new "alt" thing [02:14] it messes with my keybinds [02:15] and it dosn't allow me to alt drag anymore wtf [02:18] magn3ts: but running gnome-shell --replace from terminal should give you _some_ information [02:18] no? [02:18] have you checked .xession-errors ? [02:49] hello all [02:49] I just updated my system to alpha ubuntu, and I'm with an issue [02:50] I'm using ambiance theme, but, the window borders (title) is in the Radiance color [02:50] before update, I was using radiance theme [02:50] but now, even switching between them the window borders doesn't change [03:23] hi,all. I still can access unity,but can access unity2d [03:24] unity has no panel,but unity-2d has the panel [03:26] and on the unity-2d panel,there are two baterry. [03:28] lan_Corne: do you know why does my unity-2d panel has two baterries? [03:29] lan_Corne: and when I login unity,there are no unity-panel. [03:50] I just popped in to ask a question. [03:51] Is mutter or compiz going to be the default compositor for 11.10? [04:00] tiox: Unity 3D uses compiz, only GNOME Shell uses mutter [04:00] Alright. Just came to ask because I heard of things about mutter possibly being in 10.11, just making sure I know what to expect on the upgrade. [04:01] jbicha: my unity has no panel [04:01] jbicha: do you know why? [04:02] I figured I would also ask in here, since there is some semblance of activity now, is there some way to get the indicator extension for Thunderbird 6? [04:02] jbicha: when I use unity --replace command, libcompizconfig: dlopen: /usr/lib/compizconfig/backends/libgconf.so , no such file. [04:02] Or, would that not work due to incompatibility between GTK2 and GTK3 [04:02] ? [04:03] tiox: Do you know how to resolve this problem? [04:03] Not entirely sure. [04:03] Then again I don't use Unity, so I cannot entirely help. [04:04] Did you go into CCSM and setup compiz to store settings flat-file? [04:05] tiox: sorry,tiox. I do not know how to setup [04:05] There is one more thing I can think of, but it's the last resort that'll reset all gnome settings to defaults. [04:06] If this still works, go into a terminal (preferably by logging out and using the recovery mode), and type in gconftool --recursive-unset / [04:07] If that doesn't fix it, then you might have to get the file from your live session, by booting into it and finding out where that specific file is at, and putting it into your main file system. [04:07] do you have this file? [04:07] can you send this file to me? [04:08] No need to send it if it's a part of Ubuntu. Just use gnome-search-tool and look through your file system for it. [04:08] tiox: And there are two battery icons in my unity-2d panel [04:08] * tiox blinks [04:09] Don't know how that would happen, unless you installed a different battery indicator. So they both function the same? [04:09] Do they both* [04:11] there are one libgconf.so in /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon-3.0 directory [04:11] could I copy this file to that dir? [04:12] If it's already in there, I am not sure what that would do. Again, take my advice and go with what I said earlier. [04:12] ok,thank you. I will do what you said after lunch. [04:13] Log out, go into the recovery console, and in the copy of xterm that pops up, type in gconftool --recursive-unset / [04:13] If that doesn't fix it, then not much else will, except maybe discussion with someone more well-versed. [04:14] BTW, recovery console is a selectable session at the login window. [04:15] if there is no option to log out, then typing in gnome-session-save --logout will work. [04:15] Not sure how the recovery console actually works, but last time I did use it, all it showed me was a terminal. :) [05:56] has someone else now that pressing just alt immediately brings on task switcher, so basically any alt+ḱey combinations don't work? didn't find a related bug report, but started after yesterday. [05:58] also please say if you don't have the problem :) (with unity) [06:38] Mirv: I am using GNOME 3. In my GNOME 3 there is no irregular use of the Alt key. [06:46] bullgard4_: it's definitely Unity related, so I'm interested in other Unity (3D) users [06:47] Mirv: alt works for me on Unity 3D, it's supposed to focus the File/Edit/View menu [06:48] jbicha: ok, thanks for confirming. I thought so since there wasn't an uproar. now I'd just need to find out what's wrong on my oneiric. [06:49] sometimes things break inconsistently, for instance I didn't get the orange-yellow dash every time [06:52] What's the equivalent of the "icedove-gcontactsync" debian package in oneiric? For syncronizing gmail contacts with thunderbird... [06:57] hello i cant install ubuntu 11.10....ubiquity crashes at user pic selection. Is there a way to disable integrated webcam or start text based installer in live mode? [06:58] alkisg: Ubuntu intentionally doesn't ship many Mozilla addons, you can download it from the built-in Get Addons [06:58] jbicha: ouch, that goes for thunderbird too? we can't do that for thousands of users... [07:00] jbicha: thank you, I'll see if I can find a ppa or something :-/ [07:12] alkisg: it's a maintenance nightmare since we plan on upgrading thunderbird as well with the rapid release cycle once 3.1.x is EOL [07:23] I understand the problem, but many other packages had similar problems and they solved them, one way or the other. Vbox/nvidia use dkms, flashplugin even downloads the plugin from the adobe site... [07:24] I think there's a ppa for mozilla extensions which would be enough for now.. /me searches... [07:25] jbicha: hello jbicha. I still can't access unity after I use official source list and update dist. [07:25] during boot, a few lines pop up, but go away before I can read them, transitioning into what appears to be some graphical fallback of lightdm. Any way to find those lines in some log? [07:25] jbicha: there are no panel in unity, and two battery icons on unity-2d. [07:27] psalden: try alt+ctrl+f1, login, and sudo cat /dev/vcs7 [07:28] ok, will do [07:29] alkisg: do you know how to resolve my problem? [07:30] alkisg: there is no panel in my unity, and two battery icons in my unity-2d. [07:30] unity-2d has the panel [07:30] zhiwei: please ask in the channel, don't ping specific persons... I don't know the history of your problem that you mention [07:30] (and btw I'm about to leave :)) [07:31] I have two batteries reported in Unity-3d, one real and one claims-to-be-empty [07:31] but I now switched to gnome-shell since I've some work to do. back to the Alt button problem later :) [07:31] my unity-3d has no panel, so i use unity-2d. [07:32] can any one know how to resolve my problem? [07:32] how can i start text installer in live mode? [07:33] alkisg: there doesn't seem to be a vcs7 [07:33] only up to 6 [07:33] I update 11.10 on Wendesday,and after the update,there is no panel. [07:34] psalden: sorry, I haven't tried it in oneiric, it worked on previous versions, I don't know what changed [07:34] ok then, thanks anyway. If anyone else using the radeon driver is having this 'alternative' login screen displayed, lemme know [07:37] ubiquity is crashing at user pic option...is there any way to skip this step, disbale webcam or start text based installer? [07:39] saamm: lspci -nn -k, see which module is used, and modprobe -r it? [07:40] zhiwei: I don't know anything about why your computer doesn't work, you can try reporting a bug [07:40] I've not heard of anyone else with your specific problem so maybe something's wrong on your end [07:48] nope, this alt stuff is making me go bananas [07:56] Hello. I have problem with radiotray in 11.10. It shows first time config. App indicator is only right , when i choose System tray icon, it fails to load [07:58] hello there [07:58] is it early for you all ? [07:58] hello. [07:59] It's 10:58 :D [07:59] tested daily build , yesterday and today on an linux friendly machine, OneiricOcelot, no boot to desktop, black screen nothing happens [08:00] i have same problem. [08:00] ibm thinkpad T60, dell optiplex GX620 , both the same result , black screen no boot to desktop ( unity issue ? ) [08:00] Test Alpha3 [08:01] you dont get past the first boot screen either ? [08:01] hi. i need to test a usb wifi device on my laptop, but when I plug it in Ubuntu ignores its capabilities - I imagine because the notebook has its own wifi. How can I switch this off? Or connect the device directly with iw? [08:02] I see plymouth and then it's black screen [08:02] notebook might have an harddware switch for wifi ? [08:02] plymouth and then black screen right,.. [08:02] same here [08:02] maybe they forgot the installer somehow ? [08:02] but. in tty is some errors [08:03] tty1 ' [08:03] Ctrl+Alt+F1 [08:04] crtl+alt+F1 , then startx , does not help much i guess [08:04] ? [08:04] yellabs-r2, my notebook wifi switch broke, so the guy set it to always on [08:04] ah [08:04] ok [08:04] you need firstly kill lightdm with "/etc/init.d/lightdm stop" [08:05] i should be able to fn-F8 to switch it, but Ubuntu doesn't seem to recognize that [08:05] and then i executed unity .... Then comes lines in screen. [08:05] i think in network settings your new wifi device should show up as well as the old .. [08:05] makara, go to #ubuntu chat. this is not dev version problem [08:06] maybe the command lspci shows if its listed [08:07] and ifconfig etc [08:07] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo [08:08] there you find all the things you can try with the wifi [08:08] iwconfig is maybe a good start [08:09] when lightdm is killed, you can get to an desktop ? [08:10] yellabs-r2, then comes lines in screen and mouse cursor in terminal :) [08:10] hehe [08:10] we better wait untill its fixed.. [08:11] yes. [08:24] okey, take care [08:24] got to run.. [08:24] bye all [08:30] I just got my rt3090 card to work under Natty, if I upgrade to Oneiric in october will my card still work? === eluxzen is now known as evanluxzenburg === evanluxzenburg is now known as ameerirshad === ameerirshad is now known as evanluxzenburg === evanluxzenburg is now known as ameerirshad === ameerirshad is now known as evanluxzenburg [09:14] hmm, seems that at the latest upgrade my sounds stopped completely [09:15] ah, alsamixer mute [09:15] my sound was set to mute, but it seems I can just unmute it again [09:16] funny, this is a hickup that repeats year after year [09:16] so on some level I go "it must be something else (as that is too trivial)" [09:19] Lynoure: I think you found the glitch in the matrix [09:20] IdleOne: :) rejavu :) [09:20] deja vu but yeah :) [09:21] IdleOne: different term [09:21] IdleOne: reja vu = sense that you are going to be seeing this again =) [09:22] hmm never heard that before [09:23] uh, Amarok still parses my collection wrong, not detecting artists for all songs and when my collection is is ~/Audio/music also taking stuff from ~/Audio/emusic somehow [09:23] (thus treating my audiobook chapters as songs) [09:23] Hello. I would like to know something about ubiquity (unsure if that's the current problem with Ubuntu daily). [09:24] Someone informed me that it's being transitioned to GTK+ 3. Is that true? [09:27] If it's indeed true, than that would explain why the Installer doesn't works quite well at the moment. [09:31] has it been fixed yet? I tried the daily Aug25th version and it didn't work [09:31] just wondering if it installs ok under the alternate iso with desktop [09:31] (installed) [09:33] sagaci: I tried today's one and still nothing nowhere [09:37] All goes fine, except when it says "Ready when you are..." and you click Continue, it seems that there's a brief refresh on the installer's window, and all buttons becomes inactive. [09:38] yeah that's right, have you tried the alternate iso [09:38] sagaci: Have you tried to install it with or without a swap partition mounted to it? [09:38] Not yet. [09:38] i'm about to but it usually fails on the grub install for me [09:39] Since I noticed that the dialog where it says that you don't have a swap partition mounted is bigger than before. [09:39] ah ok, didn't notice that [09:40] So I'm guessing that ubiquity-gtk IS ported to GTK+ 3, but still unclear about that. === Amaranthus is now known as Amaranth [09:40] yeah it looks gtk3 ish [09:41] just burning it to unetbootin, the alt iso [09:41] Alright, good luck with that. [09:41] Although I do think the installer will be fully functional before it hits Beta 1 next week. [09:42] yeah hopefully [10:01] Sound not working. Devices are on aplay -l [10:02] but nothing is coming out [10:02] any ideas? [10:03] try alsamixer [10:03] what am I looking for [10:03] mute [10:03] is there something muted or at 0%? [10:04] no [10:05] Got it! [10:05] my device had become unpreffered in the kde thingy [10:05] oh, using kde [10:06] ya [10:06] ah well [10:06] problem solved [10:06] gnome-shell is interesting in oneiric === MosquitoOo is now known as MaWaLe [11:39] Hi... Is there any partial updates today? I would like to upgrade from 11.04, but if there are partial updates, I will not do it today :) [11:41] don't know, beta freeze was yesterday.. maybe wait a day or two? [11:50] it also depends on your mirror [11:50] I didn't have any problematic updates a few hours ago [11:51] jtaylor, I use main repository always... :) [12:03] jtaylor: I've not had any updates for about 48hours... have others been rolled out? [12:03] maybe your mirror is out of date [12:04] e.g. de.archive is completely broken last time I checked [12:09] jtaylor: possibly, I'm in the UK [12:10] drussell: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors [12:12] jtaylor: ahhh great! thanks [12:13] [GNOME 3] What can a user of the Guest Account do and what can he not do? [12:13] I heard it is uses a tmpfs so no disk changes [12:14] bullgard4_: this is short but might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/shell-guest-session.html [12:18] having trouble with oneiric with the keyboard, with the ´ ¨ keys, I have to press them twice, how do I configure keyboard settings in gnome3 [12:19] jtaylor: yup, that has done it, odd that so many of the mirrors seem out of date [12:33] jbicha Thank you for providing this very interesting link. [12:34] sagaci: This is the intended default behaviour. This regime is called 'deadkeys'. -- You could try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup'. [12:38] !info perl [12:38] perl (source: perl): Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Language. In component main, is optional. Version 5.12.4-2 (oneiric), package size 3475 kB, installed size 12432 kB [12:45] hmm slightly disturbing when, following an update, I start up thunderbird and it introduces itself as [12:45] "a new nightly build, named *shredder*" [12:45] * drussell hopes it won't shred all my email [12:47] ^^ [12:49] Howdy folks [12:50] lol === ghostcube is now known as zoowaerter [12:53] *sigh* but xul-ext-lightning hasn't been updated to match thunderbird [12:54] so calendaring is now broken [12:54] Bug #834680 [12:54] Launchpad bug 834680 in lightning-extension (Ubuntu) "xul-ext-lightning is currently incompatible with the version of lightning in the oneric update repos" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/834680 [12:54] would appreciate if someone else could confirm [12:56] lost google earth after upgrade last night , ia32-libs dependencies , lib32v4l-0, libv4l-0..wonder when they will be restored [13:02] Any idea why my Unity backgrounds are lime green? [13:03] at least the main unity pop up isn't lurid orange any more [13:06] lucidfox: I have seen strange green underlining following an intel gpu lock/crash of some sort [13:06] s/underlining/highlighting/ [13:07] I'm on NVIDIA, with the proprietary driver [13:07] lucidfox: ahh in that case, not a clue [13:07] lucidfox: however green is the nvidia corporate colour ;o) [13:07] :D [13:11] Also, what is the "GTK Loader" Compiz plugin for? [13:29] is a dist-upgrade safe now? [13:30] depends what does it want to remove? === yofel_ is now known as yofle === yofle is now known as yofel [13:38] jtaylor: console-terminus ia32-libs lib32v4l-0 skype teamviewer6 [13:38] I can live without skype and teamviewer [13:39] it seems all control panel related commands (like "system info", "system settings", and likely others) only show the gnome control panel, and that only shows 3 items: ubuntu one, additional drivers and software sources [13:39] then its probably save [13:39] anyone else experiencing this? [13:39] alex_mayorga: do you have multiarch enabled? [13:39] jtaylor: yes [13:40] I thought that was the mandate for now, wasn't it? [13:40] for some packages yes === zoowaerter is now known as ghostcube [13:43] jtaylor: shall I disable it? [13:44] alex_mayorga: why would you? [13:45] jtaylor: dunno, as you said "for some" [13:45] its required for e.g. flashplugin [13:45] I have been 64 bit only for the past two release cycles [13:45] skype will likely follow soon [13:45] that you had ia32libs installed speaks otherwise :) [13:46] who knows, I set up this laptop with the 64 bit desktop CD IIRC [13:47] perhaps skype pulled that one [13:48] Meh. http://imagebin.org/169737 [13:49] skype is 32 bit [13:49] as is probably teamviewer6 [13:51] genii-around, https://launchpad.net/~sevenmachines/+archive/flash/+packages [13:52] BluesKaj: Yeah, mostly just annoying though. [13:53] I've honestly not seen a worthy use of Flash in quite some time now [13:54] yeah genii-around , I wish the html5 was in effect on more sites [14:03] even Google hasn't quite got it right on youtube in html5 yet - still some of their stuff is a bit touchy [14:05] well, it playes a lot smoother then flash for mHD or HD [14:05] for me atleast [14:09] and my unity2d has two battery icons in panel. [14:12] ha :p [14:12] can't help you with that [14:12] I am downloading ccsm now [14:12] so flash is uninstallable via apt/dpkg at the moment, yeah? [14:12] sagaci: without multiarch yes [14:12] yeh it's just an Ubuntu packing issue on +1 - it'll get fixed [14:12] and welcome to an Alpha release :-) [14:13] jtaylor, so manually copy the .so file, yeah? [14:13] I could install flash with no problems [14:14] manauylly copying should work to, if oyuahve the necessary dependencies [14:16] i'll try the flash 11 64bit beta 2 [14:17] sagaci: I just ran a series of tests here with it, no issues so far. [14:17] i almost always use the repo flash but i'll make an exception for this time [14:19] yep, it works now [14:19] lost google earth last nite , dependeency hell again with ia32libs ...why can't google make a real 64 bit version? [14:20] hello, when I use ccsm to enable ubuntu-unity-plugin,I still can see unity-panel in unity3d === MikeB is now known as technoviking [14:26] BluesKaj: not enough multiarch-enabled packages to run it? [14:28] * genii-around waits for vahid to show up [14:30] geser, dunno ...I'm gonna try the method here , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth#Using%20make-googleearth-package [14:32] hi [14:33] hi === funkyHat_ is now known as funkyHat === Machtin_ is now known as Machtin [14:42] does anyone know the bug of not being able to see other months other than the current one in the panel? === sno is now known as 92AAD5TJP [14:46] alex_mayorga, i'm getting it too [14:47] alex_mayorga: do you have date and time set to "internet" ? [14:47] alex_mayorga: I haven't tried, but I assume if you set it to "manual" you can probably change the month etc [14:48] alex_mayorga: cancel that... just set it to manual and you still can't change the month [14:49] alex_mayorga: must be someone elses turn to file a bug, I've reached my 10 a day today ;o) [14:52] drussell: you're right [14:52] but back in gnome days I was able to see other months even with this settings [14:52] alex_mayorga: agreed [14:53] alex_mayorga: I used to use it for the same thing also [14:53] drussell: can you bug it? if only for gnome parity it should be there IMHO [14:54] Anyone got any idea when nspluginviewer will be updated? [14:54] alex_mayorga: I think you're right, need to search launchpad first [14:55] Because nspluginwrapper sems to depend on it [14:55] but it isn't installable [14:55] alex_mayorga: already exists, please add yourself to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/807509 [14:55] Launchpad bug 807509 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Cannot click on Calendar to select another day, month or year" [High,Triaged] [14:55] alex_mayorga: will do the same [14:58] antihero: do you have multiarch enabled? nspluginviewer is i386 only [15:01] drussell: done, thanks! [15:01] alex_mayorga: no problem [15:02] yofel: How do I enable that? [15:03] antihero: make sure you have a line with 'foreign-architecture i386' in /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg [15:03] then aptitude update? [15:04] right, but you'll need to use apt-get, aptitude doesn't support multiarch yet === dupondje_ is now known as dupondje [15:16] EW [15:16] USC icons are blurry in the toolbar [15:31] yofel: But I've had flash before using x64 only [15:31] basically flash doesnt work because it cant install nspluginwrapper [15:31] since last update [15:34] just lost k3b , in an upgrade , I hope dd still works [15:34] * genii-around makes a note not to lose his k3b [15:35] this is getting worse rather than better :) [15:35] I stopped installing k3b a few releases ago, the gnome tools do all I need now [15:37]