| robert_ancell | RAOF, does bug #602505 look like a standard X problem to you? | 00:45 |
|---|---|---|
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 602505 in lightdm "Support Init, PreSession and PostSession script hooks" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/602505 | 00:45 |
| robert_ancell | (aside from the fact that LightDM doesn't fallback to a failsafe) | 00:45 |
| robert_ancell | I mean bug #829163 | 00:45 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 829163 in lightdm "Lightdm does not start with nvidia-current driver installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/829163 | 00:45 |
| RAOF | robert_ancell: Could be? | 01:04 |
| robert_ancell | RAOF, I'll rephrase that. I'm about to reassign that to X, any objections? | 01:04 |
| RAOF | robert_ancell: With more (or, in fact, any) details it might be clearer. That could be the result of a broken xorg.conf. | 01:05 |
| RAOF | robert_ancell: No objections :)( | 01:05 |
| robert_ancell | RAOF, what is the right package for X again? | 01:05 |
| RAOF | xorg is where you might want to send it first; that's where the triage queue is. | 01:05 |
| bryceh | yeah sort of silly to file a bug that X doesn't work when an xorg.conf is specified, and not include said xorg.conf. | 01:27 |
| robert_ancell | RAOF, does /etc/gdm/failsafeXServer no longer exist? | 04:02 |
| RAOF | robert_ancell: As far as I can tell, no, it doesn't exist. | 04:05 |
| robert_ancell | RAOF, so failsafe is completely broken at the moment? | 04:05 |
| RAOF | robert_ancell: /usr/share/xdiagnose/failsafeXServer is probabyl what you're after? | 04:05 |
| robert_ancell | Then this might be out of date /etc/init/failsafe-x.conf | 04:05 |
| RAOF | I don't have such a file. | 04:07 |
| robert_ancell | RAOF, in x11-common? | 04:07 |
| RAOF | robert_ancell: Nope, not here. | 04:08 |
| robert_ancell | oh, must be legacy. I removed the file and reinstalled x11-common and it disappeared | 04:09 |
| tjaalton | robert_ancell, RAOF: looks like that file needs to be cleaned on x11-common upgrade | 05:15 |
| tjaalton | it already does that for a bunch of files, but that seems to have been left out | 05:16 |
| jasoncwarner_ | hey RAOF , any word yet from tseliot and nvidia? | 05:16 |
| RAOF | jasoncwarner_: He's done some preliminary checking to ensure it's something nvidia will accept as their fault (and not caused by something we do strangely, like the grub bootsplash stuff). | 05:27 |
| RAOF | jasoncwarner_: Hm. Perhaps that wasn't totally well worded. He's raising it with nvidia :). And, in the meantime, I've pointed DBO at a dbus interface he can use to work around the problem. | 05:28 |
| jasoncwarner_ | :) | 05:28 |
| jasoncwarner_ | aight...thanks! | 05:28 |
| pitti | Good morning | 05:40 |
| * pitti yawns -- sleep would help! | 05:41 | |
| pitti | Sweetshark: sorry about bug 834178, seems this collided with yesterday's postgresql update :( | 05:51 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 834178 in libreoffice-l10n "next libreoffice ftbfs (all archs)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/834178 | 05:51 |
| BigWhale | Morning | 06:21 |
| tkamppeter | RAOF, thanks. Can you split icc-profiles-free appropriately into two binary packages? | 06:29 |
| jbicha | ricotz: good morning, looks like gnome-shell still FTBFS on ARM | 06:35 |
| ricotz | jbicha, hello, yes :\ | 06:46 |
| ricotz | bigon, could you take a look at this http://people.ubuntu.com/~ricotz/gnome-shell/gnome-shell_3.1.4-0ubuntu2.debdiff | 06:47 |
| glatzor_ | morning pitti, how can I avoid that apport picks up a DBusException in a python service raised for the client? | 07:09 |
| pitti | glatzor_: there is no easy way to do this right now | 07:10 |
| pitti | I noticed the same in Jockey, I used return codes instead | 07:10 |
| BigWhale | uhmm, did firefox (or better, flash) stopped using PulseAudio for sound? | 07:15 |
| BigWhale | because youtube is sending sound to my headphones and pulseaudio is sending it to my speakers | 07:16 |
| tkamppeter | Big improvement: I could log in on the desktop without getting any crash message! But I had to log in through gdm, lightdm still does not start. | 07:24 |
| Sweetshark | morning all (not a good one so far for me it seems) | 07:26 |
| pitti | hey Sweetshark | 07:26 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: the joy of beta freeze rush :/ | 07:26 |
| * pitti hugs Sweetshark | 07:26 | |
| Sweetshark | pitti: nah, I am guilty alone on that one alone. | 07:27 |
| pitti | I swear, I'll sleep at least 10 hours on the weekend | 07:27 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: btw, I tried to IRC/call you last night -- the upload had a release target of "UNRELEASED" | 07:28 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: I am still flappergasted that that one didnt show up on my local builds. | 07:28 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: I hit the .changes over the head and hand-edited it | 07:28 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: you might still have had libpq-dev 9.0? | 07:28 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: cant be, I didnt update but the local build after the failed upload failed too. | 07:30 |
| Sweetshark | anyway: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-openoffice/libreoffice.git;a=commit;h=e98b13ea9a5c8099bdf13e1e6dc4d175ce8cff77 and http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-openoffice/libreoffice.git;a=commit;h=77e0cb8f863fad1b29b03f97c59ed53f6577c964 should fix it, but I didnt try to package it again as doing that after 2 am local ist just the way to doom | 07:33 |
| pitti | ah, good | 07:35 |
| BigWhale | Can someone with multiple audio cards check where Flash outputs its sound? | 07:35 |
| BigWhale | after an upgrade today, Flash is not using pulse audio, or so it seems | 07:36 |
| pitti | TheMuso: still here? | 07:43 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: anyway, thanks for helping me breaking main even harder :/ | 07:43 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: it fails worse with libpq 9.1? | 07:43 |
| pitti | sorry, that wasn't intended | 07:44 |
| * Sweetshark tries to do the packaging very carefully ... | 07:44 | |
| Sweetshark | pitti: nah, you are not guilty in any onther way that uploading the package as requested ... | 07:45 |
| pitti | heh | 07:45 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: fortunately -l10n failed the same way, otherwise we'd have a lot of uninstallability right now | 07:45 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: we shouldnt build the sdbc-postgresql stuff at all yet -- that was half done ongoing work by _rene_ (which is ok, because his packages are still unreleased). | 07:47 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: should the changes file be generated including the changelog entries from the last (failed) upload? | 07:52 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: i.e. -v3.4.1-4ubuntu1? | 07:52 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: no, just the most recent upload | 07:52 |
| Sweetshark | k | 07:52 |
| pitti | -v is only necessary for SRUs when you stack several on top of each other, or for merges | 07:53 |
| pitti | but the previous version hit oneiric-changes@, so no need to repeat it again | 07:53 |
| chrisccoulson | good morning everyone | 07:54 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmmm, where did my forward button go in firefox??! | 07:54 |
| rickspencer3 | hi chrisccoulson good morning | 07:55 |
| chrisccoulson | hi rickspencer3, how are you? | 07:55 |
| rickspencer3 | chrisccoulson, doing pretty well | 07:56 |
| rickspencer3 | it's been a bit quiet | 07:56 |
| rickspencer3 | (which is a nice change ;) ) | 07:56 |
| chrisccoulson | heh :) | 07:56 |
| rickspencer3 | how about you? | 07:56 |
| chrisccoulson | rickspencer3, yeah, i'm good thanks | 07:56 |
| pitti | hey chrisccoulson | 07:58 |
| pitti | hey rickspencer3 | 07:58 |
| rickspencer3 | good morning pitti | 07:58 |
| chrisccoulson | hi pitti | 07:58 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, so the forward button is now gone in firefox, and only appears once you navigate with the back button | 07:59 |
| chrisccoulson | weird :/ | 07:59 |
| seb128 | hey | 07:59 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 | 08:00 |
| seb128 | hey pitti, how are you? | 08:00 |
| pitti | tired | 08:00 |
| pitti | took me until 1:30 am to figure out ubiquity | 08:00 |
| seb128 | stop working 19 hours a day!!! | 08:00 |
| pitti | but I have it mostly nailed now | 08:00 |
| jbicha | chrisccoulson: which FF version are you using? | 08:00 |
| pitti | one bug in pygobject which has an easy workaround, and two fixes in ubiquity that I pushed into a branch | 08:00 |
| chrisccoulson | jbicha, nightly | 08:00 |
| seb128 | pitti, great, at least you got somewhere ;-) | 08:00 |
| seb128 | hey jbicha | 08:00 |
| pitti | but at this point we'll do the update post beta-1 | 08:00 |
| seb128 | hey chrisccoulson | 08:00 |
| seb128 | how are you? | 08:00 |
| chrisccoulson | hi seb128, i'm good thanks. how are you? | 08:01 |
| seb128 | I'm fine thanks | 08:01 |
| jbicha | seb128: howdy | 08:01 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 will be pleased with more UI elements being hidden in firefox ;) | 08:05 |
| pitti | now, off to reducing the stuff in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+bugs?orderby=-importance&field.milestone%3Alist=39143 | 08:08 |
| glatzor_ | pitti, hello, I prepared some bugfixes in lp:~glatzor/aptdaemon/ubuntu-oneiric Could you upload them since mvo is off? | 08:08 |
| pitti | glatzor_: sure | 08:08 |
| pitti | glatzor_: it doesn't refer to bugs, is that important for beta-1/ | 08:09 |
| pitti | ? | 08:09 |
| pitti | glatzor_: erm, actually he did upload it | 08:09 |
| pitti | aptdaemon | 0.43+bzr676-0ubuntu1 | oneiric | source, all | 08:09 |
| pitti | which is what's in bzr currently | 08:09 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - oh, you closed the wncksync task in bug 829778. i opened that because we want it removed from the archive | 08:11 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 829778 in glib2.0 "Breaks everything because of an API break in glib" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/829778 | 08:11 |
| glatzor_ | pitti, I haven't yet merged my branch in the ubuntu-oneiric branch, see lp:~glatzor/aptdaemon/ubuntu-oneiric | 08:11 |
| pitti | glatzor_: ah, sorry | 08:12 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I don't mind ui element being hidden, I do mind copy or urls leading to something that can't be clicked ;-) | 08:14 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, did you add the gvfs-bin recommends btw? | 08:15 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, i didn't. do you want me to do that? | 08:15 |
| seb128 | pitti, I will spend some time today on ftfbs, nbs, and milestoned bugs cleaning btw | 08:15 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, if you want sure ;-) | 08:15 |
| pitti | seb128: yay | 08:15 |
| chrisccoulson | nice! i can plan for P already - http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2011/08/every_six_weeks.html ;) | 08:18 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: firefox 11 and a 0-day firefox 12 for P apparently :) | 08:19 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: ah, sorry; will do | 08:21 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: liblauncher rdepends on wncksync, can this go, too? | 08:22 |
| pitti | only rdepends is netbook-launcher-efl | 08:23 |
| pitti | suppose that could go as well | 08:23 |
| seb128 | ogra_, ^ | 08:24 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, it's currently uninstallable anyway | 08:24 |
| seb128 | pitti, it was only kept for armel iirc | 08:24 |
| pitti | I thought only kept if someone wanted to work on it? | 08:24 |
| seb128 | check with ogra_ but I guess we can drop those with unity-2d | 08:24 |
| chrisccoulson | i must admit, i didn't check the rdepends on wncksync, i just assumed that it was obsolete and that nobody uses it ;) | 08:24 |
| pitti | I dropped wncksync and liblauncher, keeping -efl for interested parties | 08:25 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 08:25 |
| pitti | glatzor_: merged; the changelog doesn't look beta-1 critical, is it? | 08:26 |
| glatzor_ | pitti, right. sorry I just realized the freeze. it is ok to wait. | 08:27 |
| pitti | glatzor_: ok, great; uploading now | 08:27 |
| pitti | glatzor_: pushed/uploaded | 08:27 |
| glatzor_ | thanks Pici | 08:27 |
| glatzor_ | thanks pitti | 08:27 |
| pitti | seb128: I suppose bug 805063 should move to beta-2 now? | 08:30 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 805063 in unity-2d "[dash] preferred applications are not stored in GConf anylonger" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/805063 | 08:30 |
| huats | morning | 08:30 |
| seb128 | pitti, yes | 08:30 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: for bug 804397, what's the final resolution? add the recommends to gvfs? | 08:31 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 804397 in xdg-utils "xdg-open depends on gnome-open, but it's not on the CD" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/804397 | 08:31 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, that's the plan | 08:31 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: is the bug description obsolete then? It says gnome-open is missing | 08:31 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, that's obsolete | 08:32 |
| seb128 | pitti, the title should be "on gvfs-open or gnome-open, but neither is on the CD" | 08:32 |
| seb128 | well it's not obsolete | 08:33 |
| seb128 | it's still an issue than installing xdg-utils gives you a broken xdg-open | 08:33 |
| seb128 | but if we get gvfs-bin on the CD the bug becomes a low importance one | 08:34 |
| seb128 | still a bug though | 08:34 |
| seb128 | pitti, how much stable we need to be today? i.e should I refrain from small bug fix updates (like making packages use dh_translations when they don't)? | 08:39 |
| seb128 | or small bug fixes | 08:39 |
| pitti | today is still fine for unintrusive fixes | 08:39 |
| seb128 | or are those ok? | 08:39 |
| pitti | and also for milestoned ones | 08:39 |
| seb128 | ok, thanks | 08:39 |
| pitti | we just want to peer-review them in the queue | 08:40 |
| seb128 | gotcha | 08:40 |
| seb128 | pitti, do you want me to review a bug list to help you a bug? | 08:40 |
| seb128 | the canonical team assigned one maybe? | 08:40 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: bug 804397 updated, are you working on an upload? | 08:41 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 804397 in gvfs "xdg-open depends on gnome-open, but it's not on the CD" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/804397 | 08:41 |
| pitti | seb128: I'm currently walking through the desktopish ones on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+bugs?orderby=-importance&field.milestone%3Alist=39143 | 08:41 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisccoulson/gvfs/lp804397 | 08:41 |
| pitti | seb128: if you want to work on the "missing translations" ones, that sounds great | 08:41 |
| chrisccoulson | i can't upload gvfs, or push to the bzr branch :( | 08:42 |
| pitti | it'll help translators if we do it earlier | 08:42 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, doing that then, thanks | 08:42 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: sponsiring.l. | 08:42 |
| pitti | gosh, typing | 08:42 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - thanks | 08:42 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 08:42 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, can you email cjwatson? gvfs should be in the desktop set (I'm suprised it's not in fact) | 08:43 |
| ogra_ | seb128, pitti, chrisccoulson, no need for keeping efl other than in universe | 08:53 |
| ogra_ | (or anything related to the old launcher | 08:53 |
| pitti | ogra_: it's in universe, but uninstallable | 08:53 |
| ogra_ | well, from the ubuntu-arm POV its useless | 08:55 |
| ogra_ | so do what you feel like ;) | 08:55 |
| pitti | I'll remove it then, it's rather useless right now | 08:55 |
| pitti | and the source is still on launchpad | 08:56 |
| tjaalton | btw, is there a way to disable unity launcher items from a customized setup? | 08:57 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, what do you mean? | 08:59 |
| tjaalton | seb128: well, how to disable an entry or to add a new one, but I think I know the answer already | 09:00 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, it's a gsettings key | 09:01 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, but do you want to block a specific program to be added? | 09:01 |
| seb128 | or lock the launcher? | 09:01 |
| seb128 | or force one entry to stay there? | 09:01 |
| tjaalton | seb128: both I guess | 09:01 |
| seb128 | not sure that's easy to do | 09:02 |
| seb128 | you can probably easily lock the list of favorite | 09:02 |
| seb128 | but block special items not sure | 09:02 |
| jbicha | right, you should be able to make a setting mandatory | 09:02 |
| tjaalton | thinking that it's what my ex-colleagues will ask first when they try 12.04 :) | 09:03 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, simply lock the launcher favorites? | 09:04 |
| tjaalton | seb128: system wide | 09:04 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, what's the goal? | 09:04 |
| tjaalton | changing the system defaults | 09:04 |
| seb128 | consistent ui? block running of random softwares? | 09:04 |
| pitti | seb128: so should we reintroduce the older gnome-menus with a new source package to provide the old ABI/python-gmenu again? | 09:04 |
| tjaalton | for instance the software center is useless on a classroom computer, where people can't install anything | 09:04 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, ok, custom default config is trivial, just ship an override for that gsettings key with your list | 09:04 |
| tjaalton | seb128: yeah, that's what I thought, thanks | 09:05 |
| GunnarHj | pitti: Hello Martin, I've thought about yesterday's talk about LC_MESSAGES etc., and I think I have an idea how to deal with it when setting variables instead of setting and unsetting back and forth. Will write a couple of MPs. | 09:05 |
| seb128 | pitti, so we basically need the old lib and the python binary? not the dev? | 09:05 |
| pitti | seb128: right, and not the gnome-menus binary | 09:06 |
| pitti | seb128: well, we need libgnome-menu-dev, too | 09:06 |
| pitti | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/libgnome-menu-dev | 09:06 |
| pitti | there's a bunch of depends still | 09:06 |
| seb128 | pitti, do you want me to work on that? | 09:07 |
| pitti | I think gnome-shell probably wants to move to libgnome-menu-3-dev, though? | 09:07 |
| pitti | seb128: if you have some time, that'd be appreciated | 09:07 |
| seb128 | pitti, g-s will probably be done for 3.1.5 yes | 09:07 |
| seb128 | jbicha, ^ do you know? | 09:08 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, can do | 09:08 |
| pitti | cheers | 09:08 |
| pitti | ah, langpacks generated, time to test them | 09:09 |
| * pitti yearning for not-oversized CDs | 09:09 | |
| seb128 | pitti, where where where? I want to test them ;-) | 09:09 |
| pitti | seb128: I'll get you a French build | 09:09 |
| seb128 | danke! | 09:09 |
| ricotz | pitti, yes, gnome-shell already uses menu-3 | 09:11 |
| pitti | ah, then at least that dependency will go away | 09:11 |
| pitti | alacarte will probably be removed | 09:11 |
| pitti | and wncksync went away | 09:11 |
| ricotz | pitti, do you like to sponsor http://people.ubuntu.com/~ricotz/gnome-shell/gnome-shell_3.1.4-0ubuntu2.debdiff | 09:12 |
| seb128 | pitti, not sure, it got a bunch of commits in git this week | 09:12 |
| pitti | and there's still a bunch | 09:12 |
| jbicha | seb128: yes it was ported to the gnome-menus, the real question is why gnome-shell didn't bother releasing a 3.1.5 | 09:12 |
| pitti | ricotz: can't right now, but a little later; queueing | 09:12 |
| ricotz | pitti, alright :) | 09:12 |
| pitti | ricotz: why did you drop libpolkit-agent-1-dev b-dep? | 09:14 |
| ricotz | pitti, i didnt | 09:16 |
| pitti | ricotz: ah, misread, sorry | 09:16 |
| pitti | ricotz: uploaded | 09:22 |
| ricotz | pitti, thanks | 09:22 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Hi Sebastien, any idea how to deal with bug 834523? | 09:24 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 834523 in gnome-control-center "Can't change the keyboard layout from a default install" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/834523 | 09:24 |
| seb128 | not really, I assigned it to rodrigo | 09:24 |
| seb128 | ideally we could move that tab to the keyboard config capplet | 09:25 |
| pitti | seb128: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/tmp/lp/ | 09:27 |
| seb128 | pitti, danke | 09:27 |
| pitti | evo is translated again | 09:27 |
| pitti | restarting desktop to check | 09:27 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: What about the current gnome-keyboard-properties? | 09:29 |
| pitti | seb128: work fine here; I'll build the sources and upload, so that they are in unapproved | 09:30 |
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| seb128 | pitti, does "gnome-menus2" works as a name for you? | 09:45 |
| pitti | sure; it's just temporary, I'm not picky | 09:45 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, uploaded | 09:46 |
| seb128 | pitti, should be in new in 3 minutes | 09:46 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: As I mentioned yesterday, I'd like to see https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/gnome-control-center/langfix/+merge/72792 in b1, but haven't seen Rodrigo around today. Can you possibly sponsor that MP? | 09:49 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, can you put it down on the sponsoring section of http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/oneiric-desktop | 09:52 |
| ricotz | pitti, sorry, but gnome-shell sticks in the queue and needs to be approved | 09:56 |
| pitti | ricotz: yeah, will get to it, still fiddlign langpacsk | 09:57 |
| pitti | erk typing | 09:57 |
| ricotz | pitti, no problem, ty | 09:57 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, sorry, gnome-menus really uploaded with the orig this time | 09:59 |
| seb128 | pitti, langpack update works fine for me | 10:03 |
| pitti | seb128: merci | 10:03 |
| seb128 | pitti, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=gnome-menus2 | 10:05 |
| pitti | seb128: will look in a bit, thanks | 10:05 |
| seb128 | yw | 10:05 |
| pitti | last langpacks are uploading | 10:05 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: can you please have a look at the beta-1 items on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-default-email-client and close/postpone/move them to b2 as appropriate? | 10:32 |
| pitti | RAOF: at this point I guess we have decided to keep nouveau 3d? | 10:34 |
| pitti | RAOF: "[raof] Evaluate whether to retain nouveau 3d, some time after kernel freeze: TODO" | 10:35 |
| pitti | RAOF: I assume this is "DONE" and we'Re goign to keep it; please flip back if that's still open | 10:36 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - sure | 10:37 |
| chrisccoulson | urgh, the glib build timed out :/ | 10:37 |
| chrisccoulson | ^^ seb128 | 10:37 |
| pitti | uh, that again? | 10:37 |
| pitti | we might do a retry | 10:37 |
| seb128 | yeah, retry it | 10:37 |
| seb128 | testsuite hang again? | 10:38 |
| seb128 | desrt will cry | 10:38 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, seems to be | 10:38 |
| seb128 | can you save the build log? | 10:38 |
| seb128 | in case desrt wants to see it | 10:38 |
| pitti | kicked | 10:38 |
| pitti | oh argh | 10:38 |
| pitti | sorry | 10:38 |
| bryceh | pitti, yeah there's been a deafening silence for 3d issues with nouveau. seems pretty solid | 10:38 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, i've saved that | 10:39 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, thanks | 10:39 |
| seb128 | pitti, no worry ^ | 10:39 |
| chrisccoulson | i had it open in my browser ;) | 10:39 |
| pitti | ah, good | 10:39 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: "drop version specific install path from firefox (/usr/lib/firefox-5.0) so that defaults packages don't break with every update" -> moving that to b2 | 10:41 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, i'll probably end up doing that slightly differently, and just giving you a stable path for the distribution.ini | 10:41 |
| chrisccoulson | that's all you need isn't it? | 10:41 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: right | 10:42 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: what was wrong with /usr/lib/firefox/ ? | 10:42 |
| pitti | hm, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-dx-o-compiz looks a little thin | 10:48 |
| pitti | dbarth: ^ do you know what the purpose of this was? | 10:49 |
| seb128 | pitti, it was the compiz work for the o cycle | 10:51 |
| seb128 | pitti, the spec is mostly done now, unitydialog and gsettings got deferred | 10:51 |
| pitti | seb128: right, but "provide a tested tarball" isn't very clear | 10:51 |
| pitti | the gsettings migration is | 10:51 |
| pitti | ok, so "tested tarball: done", "gsettings: postponed"? | 10:51 |
| seb128 | pitti, it was "get a tarball with the new things" | 10:51 |
| seb128 | pitti, yes | 10:51 |
| pitti | thanks | 10:51 |
| seb128 | yw | 10:52 |
| dbarth | pitti: checking | 10:52 |
| pitti | dbarth: ^ seb128 just answered | 10:52 |
| dbarth | yes, most of that has been deferred | 10:52 |
| dbarth | i updated the bp | 10:53 |
| pitti | ah, me too; but your's should be more precise | 10:54 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: "Evaluate moon build-depend on xulrunner-dev, switch to firefox-dev if appropriate or drop" | 10:54 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: that's marked as "blocked"; what's the blocker here? | 10:54 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - bug 798941 | 10:54 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 798941 in moon "moon FTBFS in oneiric with libav 0.7" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/798941 | 10:54 |
| pitti | seems moon has zero rdepends in oneiric | 10:54 |
| pitti | so we could remove it | 10:54 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, it seems people aren't that bothered about fixing it | 10:55 |
| Laney | kill it lots and hard | 10:55 |
| pitti | can I kill, can I kill? | 10:55 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: ^ | 10:56 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, feel free | 10:56 |
| * pitti locks and loads | 10:56 | |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: closed bug and WI | 10:57 |
| chrisccoulson | excellent, thanks | 10:58 |
| pitti | need to get our WIs down, so I'm cleaning up | 10:58 |
| Laney | 49 packages? | 10:58 |
| pitti | Laney: yes, that includes all binaries times all arches | 10:59 |
| Laney | ah, makes sense | 10:59 |
| tjaalton | hrm, is there a bug about 'alt' opening some kind of a switcher, breaking alt-arrow? | 11:10 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: libreoffice_3.4.2-2ubuntu2_source.changes ready for upload (l10n is still testbuilding) | 11:11 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: yippie | 11:11 |
| pitti | Checksum doesn't match for /home/pitti/libreoffice_3.4.2-2ubuntu2.debian.tar.gz | 11:14 |
| pitti | erm, what? | 11:14 |
| Sweetshark | hmm | 11:14 |
| pitti | hang on | 11:15 |
| jbicha | oh you killed moonlight? | 11:15 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: arrgh, I did a bin build after the source build. mom, Ill upload the original. | 11:16 |
| jbicha | some people use that but I guess they can get it from the website | 11:16 |
| pitti | jbicha: yeah; FTBFS, using old xulrunner, nobody wanting to fix it | 11:17 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: uploaded | 11:19 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: thanks | 11:19 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: want me to wait with l10n? | 11:19 |
| jbicha | yeah, it's fine, the Desktop Guide actually mentions Moonlight so we'll just have to redirect users to the web | 11:20 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: yes | 11:20 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: pferde apotheke kotzen | 11:20 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: hm, must be some north German joke? | 11:20 |
| * pitti -> lunch, bbl | 11:21 | |
| Sweetshark | pitti: http://www.sprichworte-und-zitate.de/ich-habe-schon-pferde-vor-der-apotheke-374/ | 11:21 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: ah, heh :) | 11:22 |
| glatzor_ | pitti, I have got another apport issue. Aptdaemon forks to apply the changes. it seems that if the child crashes (tiggered by a dpkg failure) an apport report is created for the crashed child | 11:28 |
| glatzor_ | pitti, lp: #834379 | 11:28 |
| glatzor_ | pitti, the bug has so many duplicates that launchpad cannot handle opening the master bug page anymore :) | 11:28 |
| tjaalton | seriously, anyone running the current unity?-) | 11:51 |
| tjaalton | alt-arrow doesn't work anymore | 11:51 |
| tjaalton | sorry, ctrl-alt-arrow | 11:52 |
| mdeslaur | tjaalton: argh, you're right | 11:52 |
| tjaalton | \o/ | 11:52 |
| soren | Works for me, but I've got sort of a frankendesktop thing going on here, I guess. | 11:54 |
| soren | Oh, and I seem to be lagging behind on updates. /ignore me | 11:55 |
| tjaalton | heh | 11:56 |
| tjaalton | mouse shortcuts for moving are broken as well | 11:57 |
| soren | Oh dear. | 11:58 |
| soren | That's going to suck. | 11:58 |
| mdeslaur | pitti: I have a package ready to upload to fix bug 824188 | 11:59 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 824188 in gnome-settings-daemon "screen does not lock when closing lid until after you open lid again" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824188 | 11:59 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, works for me on my 2 boxes with normal accounts and guest session | 12:05 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, upload | 12:05 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: thanks | 12:05 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, they will review it from the queue, bug fixes are fine today | 12:05 |
| tjaalton | seb128: 4.10.2? | 12:05 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, yes, I did package it, I made sure to test it before uploading and the archive version once it built ;-) | 12:06 |
| tjaalton | oh you did ;) | 12:06 |
| ricotz | seb128, hi, i updated vala to 0.13.3 (see pad) is there a FFe bug needed? | 12:06 |
| seb128 | ricotz, hey, no, not sure if they will let it in before beta1 or not though, to check with pitti | 12:07 |
| seb128 | ricotz, but thanks | 12:07 |
| ricotz | seb128, ok, you pinged him now, so might take a look | 12:08 |
| seb128 | ricotz, well in any case we can just upload, if it's not ok it willl sit in the queue until after beta1 | 12:09 |
| seb128 | thanks for the work, I will review it later today | 12:09 |
| ricotz | seb128, alright, it is a simple uupdate, no other changes needed | 12:09 |
| pitti | re | 12:14 |
| pitti | tjaalton: I use ctrl+alt+arrow to switch workspaces, works here | 12:14 |
| tjaalton | tjaalton: me too, doesn't work on my own sessions on two machines, guest session _is_ fine | 12:14 |
| tjaalton | if I press alt, I get the switcher | 12:15 |
| pitti | glatzor_: ah, so the child is intended to throw an exception? | 12:15 |
| pitti | glatzor_: we could add a package hook to just ignore SystemErrors thrown by aptdaemon, would that help? | 12:15 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, stop talking to yourself ;-) | 12:18 |
| tjaalton | ok, if "key to flip through windows in the switcher" has the default value (<Alt>grave), it's broken | 12:18 |
| tjaalton | seb128: ^:) | 12:18 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, did you change the launcher key to alt in ccsm? | 12:18 |
| tjaalton | if I disable that shortcut, things work | 12:18 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, talk to DBO when he comes online | 12:19 |
| tjaalton | so, maybe it depends on your keymap? what the heck is grave anyway, in this context | 12:19 |
| seb128 | it's his doing | 12:19 |
| seb128 | it's supposed to be the key on top of tab | 12:19 |
| tjaalton | ok will do | 12:19 |
| seb128 | but I think he didn't get the smart logic for that yet | 12:19 |
| tjaalton | <Alt>section here | 12:19 |
| seb128 | so it's the key on top of tab on an us layout :p | 12:19 |
| tjaalton | why of course :) | 12:19 |
| tjaalton | mdeslaur: ^ can you verify? | 12:20 |
| mdeslaur | tjaalton: sorry, you want me to verify what exactly? | 12:21 |
| mdeslaur | as soon as I press ant, I get the window switcher | 12:22 |
| mdeslaur | s/ant/alt/ | 12:22 |
| glatzor_ | pitti, the main process could also be killed by a SystemError. Unluckily python-apt uses SystemErrors for all exceptions | 12:22 |
| tjaalton | mdeslaur: if you have ccsm installed, try disabling the shortcut I mentioned | 12:22 |
| tjaalton | mdeslaur: from unity switcher settings | 12:22 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, could you open a bug? | 12:22 |
| tjaalton | seb128: sure! | 12:22 |
| seb128 | thanks | 12:23 |
| tjaalton | what does 'grave' the symbol look like? | 12:23 |
| tjaalton | oh wait | 12:23 |
| tjaalton | I have a laptop with us layout | 12:23 |
| mdeslaur | I'm trying to find it in ccsm | 12:23 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, unity, second tab, bottom option | 12:24 |
| glatzor_ | pitti, is there a way in the package-hooks to ignore crashes? | 12:25 |
| mdeslaur | even if I disable that, as soon as I hit ctrl-alt, the window switcher appears | 12:26 |
| mdeslaur | of course, ccsm is crashing, so I don't know if it actually does save the session | 12:26 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| seb128 | it should apply when you change the setting | 12:26 |
| pitti | glatzor_: the main one is report['UnreportableReason'] = 'explanation' | 12:26 |
| seb128 | does it work in a guest session? if you don't mind redoing your setting, unity --reset | 12:27 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: ok, well, it's "disabled" now, and I still can't ctrl-alt-arrow | 12:27 |
| pitti | glatzor_: as we present it as a crash, we need to explain why it suddenly isn't one | 12:27 |
| pitti | it's a little awkward, we can't prevent the crash from being reported right away, short of not throwing an exception in the first place | 12:27 |
| mdeslaur | tjaalton: when you disabled that, your alt key doesn't immediately bring up the window switcher anymore? | 12:28 |
| tjaalton | mdeslaur: no, it's enough to fix it for me | 12:28 |
| tjaalton | though I don't understand why a guest session would be fine | 12:28 |
| mdeslaur | ok, it's not enough for me | 12:28 |
| tjaalton | since it's the same layout there | 12:28 |
| seb128 | did any of you want to try unity --reset? | 12:28 |
| glatzor_ | pitti, so the user stil gets the dialog? | 12:29 |
| seb128 | it will reset your compiz config | 12:29 |
| pitti | glatzor_: yes | 12:29 |
| seb128 | including keybindings | 12:29 |
| pitti | glatzor_: we haven't had such a special case so far; I guess we need to invent something to prevent reports in these case | 12:29 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: after a unity --reset, just pressing alt still brings up the window switcher | 12:29 |
| seb128 | glatzor_, pitti: or get the software to catch the signal? | 12:30 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, ok, talk to DBO when he joins please ;-) | 12:30 |
| pitti | that's a little tricky, the dbus server tosses it out there, dbus marshalls it, and the client gets it passed | 12:30 |
| pitti | so the client has to intercept it, but the server still appears to throw an exception | 12:30 |
| pitti | glatzor_: I wonder whether it would generally be a good idea to ignore DBusExceptions | 12:31 |
| pitti | as they will usually be marshalled and sent client-wards | 12:31 |
| pitti | hm, but then we'd miss clients who don't handle them properly | 12:31 |
| pitti | damn, unity just FTBFSed again on armel | 12:32 |
| pitti | dbarth ^ | 12:32 |
| pitti | that causes unity-2d to be uninstallable | 12:32 |
| glatzor_ | pitti, I can live with the few bug reports about valid DBusExceptions currently that I get for aptdaemon and session-installer | 12:32 |
| tjaalton | no 'grave' in fi, but dead_grave | 12:32 |
| glatzor_ | pitti, but the forked child produces several duplicates a day | 12:33 |
| soren | mdeslaur: I have the same problem as you. | 12:33 |
| mdeslaur | soren: as soon as you press alt, the switcher pops up? | 12:33 |
| soren | mdeslaur: Yes. | 12:33 |
| glatzor_ | seb128, but a good idea to just not crash the child. I will have a look into this | 12:33 |
| soren | mdeslaur: Even after unity --reset. | 12:33 |
| tjaalton | mdeslaur: you can try disabling the other shortcuts | 12:33 |
| seb128 | try using an us layout? | 12:34 |
| seb128 | just to see if that "fixes" it | 12:34 |
| pitti | glatzor_: hm, it coudl perhaps just reset sys.excepthook to the default? | 12:34 |
| tjaalton | I'll try the guest session to see what's going on there | 12:34 |
| pitti | glatzor_: as we know that we don't want apport reports for crashes in the child, that would disable apport in these | 12:34 |
| * mdeslaur hates clicking on "keyboard" in system settings just to find out it's not the right place for keyboard layouts | 12:35 | |
| glatzor_ | seb128, pitti, Oh, I just checked the code. the child doesn't crash blindly. but calls os._exit(ERROR_CODE) | 12:35 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: uhm...there's no way to configure the keyboard anymore? | 12:36 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: language support is now our own thing instead of the upstream one, and there's no keyboard layout tab in it anymore | 12:36 |
| soren | mdeslaur: I use an applet for that. | 12:36 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, oh, suck :-( it's bug #834523 | 12:36 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 834523 in gnome-control-center "Can't change the keyboard layout from a default install" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/834523 | 12:36 |
| tjaalton | mdeslaur: yep, it's gone | 12:37 |
| mdeslaur | \o/ | 12:37 |
| tjaalton | but! I know how to make it b0rked for the guest session too | 12:37 |
| tjaalton | the shortcut works fine, until you touch it | 12:37 |
| pitti | glatzor_: sys.excepthook = sys.__excepthook__ at the start of the child ought to work | 12:38 |
| tjaalton | and if you reset to the default, it's broken | 12:38 |
| soren | mdeslaur: Oh. | 12:38 |
| tjaalton | "touch it" meaning changing it to something else and then revert to default | 12:38 |
| soren | mdeslaur: It worked if I disabled the <Alt>grave shortcut. | 12:38 |
| mdeslaur | soren: you just set it to disabled and it worked? | 12:38 |
| soren | Yes. | 12:38 |
| soren | Ah. | 12:38 |
| tjaalton | I remember playing with the setting some day, trying to make the new alt-tab suit my needs | 12:39 |
| soren | Iguess that sort of makes sense. | 12:39 |
| soren | I have no "grave" key. | 12:39 |
| soren | At all. | 12:39 |
| pitti | dbarth, seb128: oh, there's even a fix for the ftbfs in bug 834576 -- can we cherrypick this? | 12:39 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 834576 in unity "ARM FTBFS fix" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/834576 | 12:39 |
| tjaalton | but it's a mystery why the laptop has it too, since I haven't done the same there | 12:39 |
| soren | I have a dead_grave. | 12:39 |
| pitti | dbarth, seb128: or want me to upload this? | 12:39 |
| pitti | we really need to get this building to unscrew arm | 12:39 |
| mdeslaur | oh! it just worked for me now | 12:39 |
| seb128 | pitti, no please don't | 12:39 |
| soren | mdeslaur: So since it's a non-existent key, it just ignores it, I imagine. | 12:39 |
| mdeslaur | ok, so setting it to disabled now worked for me | 12:39 |
| seb128 | pitti, cf what I said to janimo before, I'm going to upload with some other selected bug fixes | 12:39 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, good | 12:40 |
| seb128 | pitti, just waiting for a few fixes to get reviewed and land | 12:40 |
| mdeslaur | yeah, a french canadian keyboard has no grave either | 12:40 |
| seb128 | pitti, it will be in the next hour | 12:40 |
| soren | Using grave is also a very poor choice. I doubt very many non-English key maps have that key right there. | 12:40 |
| kenvandine | good morning everyone | 12:40 |
| pitti | seb128: ok, as long as you can include this, I'm happy | 12:40 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: alt-grave = FAIL :P | 12:40 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, mdeslaur, soren: tjaalton said he would open a bug, I will get DBO to look at it when he's online | 12:40 |
| pitti | hey kenvandine | 12:40 |
| tjaalton | seb128: guest sessions remains broken even after unity --reset | 12:40 |
| seb128 | pitti, it's planned ;-) | 12:40 |
| soren | seb128: *hugs* | 12:41 |
| tjaalton | ok I'll file one now | 12:41 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: tanks! | 12:41 |
| mdeslaur | tjaalton: thanks | 12:41 |
| soren | Oh, this is so much more useful now :) | 12:41 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, soren, tjaalton: did the issue started with yesterday update for you? | 12:41 |
| tjaalton | seb128: yes, after I ran todays updates | 12:42 |
| tjaalton | and rebooted | 12:42 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: I hadn't noticed, as I mostly use the workspace switcher button with my mouse | 12:42 |
| soren | seb128: I believe so. it wasn't a problem before my upgrade this morning. I may have been about a day and a half behind on updates. | 12:42 |
| seb128 | ok, thanks | 12:42 |
| glatzor_ | pitti, thanks. reseting the excepthook is a good workaround | 12:44 |
| pitti | glatzor_: actually, I think it's not just a workaround, but the right thing to do there | 12:45 |
| seb128 | pitti, did you get your theming to break today? | 12:47 |
| seb128 | or others? | 12:47 |
| pitti | seb128: no, it's actually working again! | 12:47 |
| seb128 | hum, k | 12:48 |
| seb128 | it broke for me ;-) | 12:48 |
| seb128 | will need to look at it | 12:48 |
| * soren too | 12:48 | |
| glatzor_ | pitti, thanks. right. | 12:51 |
| seb128 | pitti, how much do you need to unscrew armel early? | 12:52 |
| pitti | seb128: it takes some 4 hours to build, then unity-2d | 12:52 |
| seb128 | pitti, or said differently "want an upload now with what we have an maybe an upload in 3 hours with extra bug fixes"? | 12:52 |
| pitti | seb128: I think we need a built unity-2d on Monday | 12:52 |
| pitti | seb128: 3 h seems fine | 12:52 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, so I will wait for the fixes to land rather than doing 2 uploads | 12:53 |
| tjaalton | soren, mdeslaur, seb128: filed bug 834684 | 12:54 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 834684 in unity "Switcher shortcut to flip through windows breaks on !us layouts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/834684 | 12:54 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, thanks | 12:54 |
| dbarth | pitti, seb128: yes, go ahead as a distro patch please | 12:55 |
| dbarth | i'm commenting to ask the patch to go through the regular code review process | 12:55 |
| seb128 | dbarth, the patch is in trunk already | 12:56 |
| seb128 | dbarth, don't worry, I'm just waiting on some dnd fixes to land before doing the backports | 12:57 |
| === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley | ||
| dbarth | ok, cool | 12:58 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Added the MP link to the pad (didn't know about the pad) | 13:01 |
| ricotz | seb128, fyi, i am going to upload totem 3.1.4 to my staging ppa | 13:02 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, thanks | 13:02 |
| seb128 | ricotz, can you do it in the gnome3 ppa rather? | 13:03 |
| ricotz | mhh, right, could need some testing before though | 13:03 |
| ricotz | i will keep in staging for now | 13:04 |
| glatzor_ | pitti, I prepared a new upload in lp:~aptdaemon-developers/aptdaemon/ubuntu-oneiric - also fixed an overflow error | 13:04 |
| glatzor_ | pitti, the test suite doesn't complain about any errors | 13:05 |
| pitti | YIPPIE YIPPIE YAY! | 13:20 |
| pitti | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20110826.1/ | 13:20 |
| pitti | seb128, chrisccoulson: ^ check out the size | 13:20 |
| seb128 | space \o/ | 13:20 |
| seb128 | pitti, what did you do?:! | 13:21 |
| pitti | seb128: just refreshed the langpacks, to have empty delta ones | 13:21 |
| seb128 | it's down over 10mb | 13:21 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - nice! | 13:21 |
| seb128 | seems over what lp should have | 13:21 |
| seb128 | pitti, can we bring pitivi back on? ;-) | 13:21 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, ^^ | 13:21 |
| pitti | glatzor_: darn, forgot to push my release tag last time | 13:21 |
| m_conley | woo! :) | 13:21 |
| pitti | glatzor_: but seems you did that for me | 13:21 |
| m_conley | great job! | 13:22 |
| pitti | seb128: at some point yes; but let's keep the 4 MB of slack space for the remaining growth until final | 13:24 |
| seb128 | ok | 13:24 |
| chrisccoulson | hopefully there won't be much more growth ;) | 13:27 |
| * desrt cries | 13:38 | |
| desrt | chrisccoulson: i was having a good morning. why did you have to ruin it? | 13:39 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 13:39 |
| chrisccoulson | sorry ;) | 13:39 |
| desrt | got a log? | 13:40 |
| chrisccoulson | desrt, the whole build log is here - http://paste.ubuntu.com/675251/ | 13:43 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, hey ;-) | 13:47 |
| seb128 | ups | 13:47 |
| seb128 | desrt, hey ;-) | 13:47 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 13:47 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, don't get scared I've no work for you :p | 13:47 |
| pitti | ah, just ordered a new mobile phone | 14:14 |
| pitti | seems my trusty old G1 has finally broken down :( | 14:14 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson, kenvandine: ^ but I guess it survived your's by quite a bit | 14:14 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - i think my G1 still works | 14:14 |
| chrisccoulson | i just don't use it anymore ;) | 14:15 |
| seb128 | pitti, which one did you get? | 14:15 |
| pitti | I can't connect to the network any more, not even for phone | 14:15 |
| pitti | seb128: Sony Xperia mini pro | 14:15 |
| pitti | again with a slider keyboard | 14:15 |
| pitti | http://www.androidhandys.com/2011/05/sony-ericsson-erneuert-xperia-mini-und-xperia-mini-pro/ | 14:15 |
| pitti | seems like a nice device | 14:15 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i miss not having a real keyboard on my handset | 14:15 |
| kenvandine | pitti, indeed | 14:16 |
| kenvandine | mine died over a year ago :) | 14:16 |
| kenvandine | well "died"... i bricked it :) | 14:16 |
| kenvandine | never flash the radio while holding a sleeping baby | 14:16 |
| kenvandine | lesson learned | 14:16 |
| mdeslaur | hehehe | 14:17 |
| pitti | lol | 14:17 |
| pitti | I still remember the pain for rooting the g1 | 14:17 |
| pitti | I guess now I need to do it all over again | 14:17 |
| pitti | or do they lock it down less these days? | 14:17 |
| mdeslaur | pitti: they've increased the pain level :P | 14:18 |
| pitti | mdeslaur: http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-rootunroot-sony-ericsson-xperia-x10-and-x10-mini-with-a-single-click/ doesn't seem very painful | 14:21 |
| pitti | but let's see | 14:21 |
| mdeslaur | pitti: oh! If that one still works, that means your model phone hasn't gotten android updates in a while | 14:23 |
| mdeslaur | cool | 14:23 |
| pitti | mdeslaur: I don't know -- I just ordered it, will get it next Tuesday or so | 14:23 |
| pitti | might very well be that 2.3 locks that down (it comes with 2.3) | 14:24 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: armel FTBFS> doko says that's expected | 14:24 |
| pitti | doko | pitti: lo will ftbfs on armel, gcj-4.6 is not yet built | 14:24 |
| pitti | so I guess we can re-try once gcj is built | 14:24 |
| pitti | argh, ppc failed, too | 14:25 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: yes, ppc failed before and I could investigate on the porter box, because I could install deps (they 404'ed in apt) | 14:26 |
| pitti | ah, the chroot needs an apt-get update, I figure | 14:28 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: l10n still building here btw | 14:37 |
| desrt | chrisccoulson: i think this is an issue we've had for a while with that one particular test | 15:00 |
| desrt | my guess is that it's a bug in the test itself | 15:00 |
| === dupondje_ is now known as dupondje | ||
| Sweetshark | pitti: k, I found the issue in the ppc log -- its the same root cause as the armel breaker -- the same fix should work there too. | 15:21 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: I don't understand -- I thought with this upload armel should build (once gcj lands)? | 15:22 |
| Sweetshark | yes, the fix is a if-on-armel-dont-do-this-dark-magic fix | 15:24 |
| pitti | aah | 15:24 |
| Sweetshark | making that an if-on-armel-or-ppc-dont-do-this-dark-magic fix | 15:24 |
| Sweetshark | should do | 15:24 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: fyi http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?h=distro/ubuntu/oneiric-3.4 | 15:27 |
| nxvl | RAOF: still around? | 15:28 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: it must be a special kind of fun to maintain all these workarounds.. | 15:28 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: Yes, it is a special place in hell. | 15:29 |
| nxvl | seems, not, so i have an issue with unity, for some reason, when i start unity 3D i get it to kinda open, but it seems to open nautilius and crash or something, i only get a top nautilius menu bar, but not the unity stuff (as in left bar, notification area, etc) | 15:30 |
| nxvl | is that known bug or my system is spiting at me once again? | 15:30 |
| nxvl | (unity2D works fine, and i've no idea why i have gnome3 installed and works too) | 15:32 |
| nxvl | also it seems that it opens network manager, since y get the notification that i'm connected to the wireless, but still no side panels for unity are shown | 15:34 |
| seb128 | mterry, hey | 15:35 |
| seb128 | mterry, could you have a look to bug #834701 | 15:35 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 834701 in unity-greeter "greeter regression, no longer allowing flavours to customize the greeter" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/834701 | 15:35 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: do you have a rough estimate of -l10n? I'll be AFK in about an hour | 15:35 |
| cyphermox | seb128: you aware of rodigo's work on folks, disabling libsocialweb backend? I'd like to do a rebuild of folks to get it off the list of NBS for libedataserver, just making sure that disabling is really meant to be uploaded now ;) | 15:40 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: yes, I have: ETA now. I have a blue bulb in my local jenkins install (read: build success) | 15:43 |
| pitti | \o/ | 15:43 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: want me to dput? | 15:43 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: yes | 15:44 |
| pitti | rockin' | 15:44 |
| pitti | done | 15:44 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, no I'm not, maybe kenvandine has an opinion | 15:45 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: since we have already put lo_3.4.2-2ubuntu2 we cant fix ppc without a new upload anyway. | 15:45 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: right, but we won't need a new -l10n for that, do we? | 15:45 |
| kenvandine | cyphermox, because nothing really needed it | 15:45 |
| cyphermox | ok | 15:45 |
| kenvandine | cyphermox, and it is in universe | 15:46 |
| cyphermox | fair enough | 15:46 |
| cyphermox | kenvandine: thanks | 15:48 |
| kenvandine | cyphermox, np | 15:49 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: no | 15:49 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: l10n only builds on i386 | 15:50 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: right, I meant there are no overly strong dependencies of libo to -l10n | 15:50 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: although, it would break for somebody doing "apt-get source" and try to build l10n | 15:51 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: hmm, there arent in code, but they might be in the control file | 15:51 |
| DBO | ping tjaalton | 15:53 |
| DBO | ping soren | 15:54 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: no versioned deps on libreoffice-l10n packages from lo source package | 15:54 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, awesome post on the new retracer | 15:56 |
| pitti | thanks | 15:57 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: unfortunately photobomb never crashes, so you can't try it | 15:58 |
| rickspencer3 | lol | 15:58 |
| rickspencer3 | well, I'm working on a new app now | 15:58 |
| rickspencer3 | it will sell at least twice as much as photohomb | 15:58 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti, seb128, I actually have a question for you guys if you have a moment | 15:59 |
| seb128 | hey rickspencer3 | 15:59 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: go ahead; (I'm just in a meeting, so might be a little slow) | 15:59 |
| rickspencer3 | so, I hear through the grapevine that due to the gnome3 transition a lot of apps won' | 15:59 |
| rickspencer3 | t build | 15:59 |
| rickspencer3 | I guess this is in Universe | 15:59 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, yes | 16:00 |
| rickspencer3 | so, when we get to ship 11.10 what happens with these apps? do they just not show up in sc, are the natty versions in sc? | 16:00 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, we either fix those or drop those from oneiric | 16:00 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128, do they get dropped automatically, or does someone have to do something to drop them? | 16:01 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, the archive admins have to clean those | 16:01 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: we have to drop them manually | 16:01 |
| rickspencer3 | thanks guys | 16:01 |
| rickspencer3 | til | 16:02 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, yw | 16:02 |
| seb128 | brb | 16:05 |
| tjaalton | DBO: pong | 16:05 |
| DBO | tjaalton, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/834684 | 16:06 |
| ubot2` | Ubuntu bug 834684 in unity "Switcher shortcut to flip through windows breaks on !us layouts" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 16:06 |
| DBO | I dont understand what you are trying to describe here | 16:06 |
| DBO | can you try to explain it to me? | 16:06 |
| tjaalton | the shortcut '<Alt>grave' doesnt' work | 16:06 |
| tjaalton | in fact, it breaks other things | 16:07 |
| tjaalton | since just hitting alt makes the switcher appeear | 16:07 |
| tjaalton | -a | 16:07 |
| tjaalton | eh, -e | 16:07 |
| DBO | so | 16:07 |
| DBO | if you change the keybinding to say alt-6 | 16:07 |
| tjaalton | it works | 16:07 |
| DBO | in ccsm | 16:07 |
| DBO | what does that do? | 16:07 |
| tjaalton | it changes the shortcut to something that works for me | 16:08 |
| DBO | okay so the problem is the default? | 16:08 |
| tjaalton | 'fi' layout doesn't even have grave | 16:09 |
| tjaalton | right | 16:09 |
| DBO | right | 16:09 |
| DBO | can you test trunk when I ask? | 16:09 |
| tjaalton | of unity? | 16:09 |
| DBO | yesh | 16:09 |
| DBO | what is the key above tab on your system btw? | 16:09 |
| tjaalton | sure, maybe not today though :) | 16:09 |
| tjaalton | 'section' | 16:09 |
| DBO | tjaalton, what if I just ask you to download a branch and run a test in it | 16:09 |
| DBO | so just build and run a test app | 16:09 |
| DBO | tjaalton, wtf is the section key? | 16:10 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: blogging> ooh, pygame? nice | 16:10 |
| tjaalton | DBO: ยง | 16:10 |
| DBO | oh okay | 16:10 |
| rickspencer3 | thanks pitti | 16:11 |
| DBO | tjaalton, so test a simple test program for me then in 20 or 30 minutes | 16:11 |
| DBO | to confirm that it spits out the section key for you | 16:11 |
| tjaalton | DBO: ok | 16:11 |
| tjaalton | but I think it's going to break for others | 16:11 |
| DBO | tjaalton, I am using xkeyboard to find the key | 16:11 |
| DBO | using the keyboard geometry | 16:11 |
| DBO | step 1, find tab key | 16:12 |
| DBO | step 2, find key above tab key | 16:12 |
| tjaalton | ok so you can map layout->key | 16:12 |
| DBO | right, and this way we shouldn't have to worry about different layouts | 16:12 |
| tjaalton | ah, in the unity code? | 16:12 |
| DBO | yeah | 16:12 |
| tjaalton | ok sounds better :) | 16:12 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|break | ||
| pitti | good night everyone, have a nice weekend! | 16:19 |
| seb128 | 'night pitti | 16:20 |
| seb128 | mterry, hey | 16:32 |
| seb128 | mterry, did you see my ping before? | 16:32 |
| mterry | seb128, yah, sorry | 16:33 |
| seb128 | mterry, could you look at bug #833619 also? | 16:33 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 833619 in unity-greeter "unity-greeter crashed with SIGSEGV in FT_Set_Transform()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/833619 | 16:33 |
| === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away | ||
| DBO | are we getting the background changy thing for the greeter? | 16:45 |
| mterry | seb128, sorry, realized I didn't ACK you second time either :) I'm looking | 16:49 |
| seb128 | mterry, no worry, thanks | 16:49 |
| seb128 | DBO: that's a question for robert_ancell, but good point, I forgot to check with him about it | 16:50 |
| === MacSlow|break is now known as MacSlow | ||
| dbarth | seb128, pitti: with the new langpacks that have been uploaded, can i consider that https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/832634 is fixed, except for the uninstalled apps part? | 17:13 |
| ubot2` | Ubuntu bug 832634 in unity "Application search results in the dash are not localized" [High,Confirmed] | 17:13 |
| dbarth | ie, there may still be an issue in how we query the database, but for the rest it seems that the locale settings are set correctly | 17:14 |
| seb128 | dbarth, yes, it's mostly fixed | 17:14 |
| dbarth | ok | 17:14 |
| === bcurtiswx is now known as Guest91052 | ||
| === bcurtiswx_ is now known as bcurtiswx | ||
| seb128 | ok | 17:44 |
| seb128 | if some people got their theming broken in oneiric yersterday you can try to set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xsettings active to true | 17:45 |
| seb128 | it seems to be false for some configs after upgrade | 17:45 |
| seb128 | not sure why | 17:45 |
| seb128 | well, most of the list got unset, weird | 17:48 |
| seb128 | pedro_, hey | 17:51 |
| seb128 | pedro_, could you upstream the few g-c-c and g-s-d segfaults where I added an upstream component? | 17:52 |
| pedro_ | seb128, sure, i'm doing some cleanup there so i'll be sending those after | 17:52 |
| seb128 | pedro_, thanks | 17:52 |
| pedro_ | you're welcome | 17:52 |
| DBO | tjaalton, present? | 18:19 |
| tjaalton | DBO: somewhat | 18:23 |
| DBO | I need you to run a test, it will just print some debug | 18:23 |
| tjaalton | sure | 18:25 |
| DBO | tjaalton, lp:~unity-team/unity/unity.keyboard-util | 18:26 |
| DBO | if oyu pull down that branch and build it (I can help with that if needed) | 18:26 |
| DBO | there will be a executable in the tests directory | 18:26 |
| tjaalton | checkout running | 18:26 |
| DBO | test-keyutil | 18:26 |
| DBO | if you run that, it should spew a bunch of stuff on your console | 18:26 |
| tjaalton | 3kB/s, whee | 18:26 |
| mterry | Just FYI, I have to sign off a tad early today | 18:28 |
| tjaalton | DBO: ok, cmake.. ? | 18:29 |
| DBO | tjaalton, mkdir build; cd build; cmake .. | 18:30 |
| tjaalton | running | 18:30 |
| DBO | mterry, but how will you work all weekend if you sign off? | 18:30 |
| mterry | DBO, ssshh | 18:31 |
| === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter | ||
| tjaalton | DBO: hm, no output from cmake? | 18:32 |
| tjaalton | or did it just hang | 18:32 |
| DBO | you ran "cmake .." | 18:33 |
| DBO | from inside the build dir right? | 18:33 |
| tjaalton | yes | 18:33 |
| DBO | if you do ls | 18:33 |
| DBO | is there anything? | 18:33 |
| tjaalton | : tjaalton@nexus6:~/tmp/unity.keyboard-util/build> find | 18:33 |
| tjaalton | . | 18:33 |
| tjaalton | ./CMakeFiles | 18:33 |
| tjaalton | ./CMakeFiles/CMakeOutput.log | 18:33 |
| tjaalton | ./CMakeFiles/CMakeSystem.cmake | 18:33 |
| DBO | thats awesome... | 18:34 |
| chrisccoulson | g'ah, i'm going to have to do another freaking thunderbird upload | 18:34 |
| tjaalton | :) | 18:34 |
| tjaalton | yeah it didn't get far | 18:34 |
| tjaalton | chrisccoulson: yep :) | 18:34 |
| chrisccoulson | that's another armel builder wasted for a whole day! | 18:34 |
| DBO | tjaalton, anything interesting in th elog file? | 18:35 |
| tjaalton | "The system is: Linux - 3.0.0-9-generic - x86_64" | 18:36 |
| tjaalton | nothing else | 18:36 |
| DBO | O_o | 18:37 |
| DBO | tjaalton, sudo apt-get build-dep unity | 18:37 |
| DBO | make sure we're not missing something... | 18:37 |
| tjaalton | whoa, a lot of stuff | 18:38 |
| tjaalton | the same | 18:41 |
| DBO | are you running amd64? | 18:43 |
| tjaalton | yes | 18:44 |
| DBO | hmmm okay hold on | 18:44 |
| tjaalton | this is where strace stops http://paste.ubuntu.com/675448/ | 18:44 |
| tjaalton | hum | 18:44 |
| === _LibertyZero is now known as LibertyZero | ||
| tjaalton | why is there a space in the paths? | 18:45 |
| DBO | tjaalton, no gcc installed maybe? | 18:45 |
| DBO | sudo apt-get install build-essentials | 18:45 |
| tjaalton | is installed | 18:45 |
| DBO | kk... | 18:45 |
| DBO | why is it looking for " gcc" on your system | 18:45 |
| tjaalton | right | 18:46 |
| DBO | tjaalton, can I see env | 18:46 |
| tjaalton | hahaha | 18:46 |
| tjaalton | CC= gcc | 18:46 |
| tjaalton | why?! :) | 18:46 |
| DBO | i dont know | 18:47 |
| tjaalton | ok got it, it's from my zsh setup copied from elsewhere | 18:47 |
| DBO | fixit? | 18:47 |
| tjaalton | export CC="$CCACHE gcc" | 18:47 |
| tjaalton | yes, I'll try in a bit | 18:47 |
| DBO | Im running out of europeans with funny keyboards | 18:48 |
| tjaalton | ok built | 18:49 |
| tjaalton | though it didn't build test-keyutil | 18:49 |
| DBO | tjaalton, look in build/tests | 18:51 |
| tjaalton | test-get-transients test-input-remover test-minimize-window-handler | 18:51 |
| DBO | did you get build errors? | 18:52 |
| DBO | it should be in there | 18:52 |
| DBO | you can just go into tests | 18:52 |
| DBO | and run make | 18:52 |
| tjaalton | aah | 18:52 |
| tjaalton | I missed that part | 18:52 |
| DBO | well normally you dont have to | 18:53 |
| htorque | the test built fine here | 18:53 |
| DBO | I think tjaalton has zsh define a bunch of stuff for his env | 18:54 |
| htorque | DBO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/675458/ | 18:54 |
| htorque | that's for german dead grave acute | 18:54 |
| DBO | htorque, do those results look correct to you? | 18:55 |
| DBO | (especially the tab key one) | 18:55 |
| tjaalton | well cmake complained about gtest and doxygen | 18:55 |
| kenvandine | disable docs | 18:55 |
| kenvandine | doxygen is huge | 18:56 |
| DBO | and install gtest | 18:56 |
| tjaalton | so if it stops there because of the failures? | 18:56 |
| tjaalton | I just ran make in tests | 18:56 |
| tjaalton | it's building now | 18:56 |
| tjaalton | DBO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/675462/ | 18:57 |
| tjaalton | victory | 18:58 |
| htorque | well, there are a lot of keys above space :P - yeah, except for ctrl they look good, but that's due to the notebook keyboard layout | 18:58 |
| DBO | tjaalton, do those results look correct to you | 18:58 |
| tjaalton | all of them? let me see | 18:58 |
| DBO | tab especially, but yes all of them | 18:58 |
| DBO | htorque, whats wrong with the ctrl? | 18:58 |
| htorque | nothing really, i just have a Fn key below shift_l | 18:59 |
| htorque | directly above ctrl is "<>|" | 18:59 |
| DBO | htorque, ah | 19:00 |
| DBO | but the tab is correct? | 19:00 |
| tjaalton | yeah same here, but it's close enough | 19:00 |
| htorque | yes, asciicircum ^ | 19:00 |
| tjaalton | I have a thinkpad usb keyboar | 19:00 |
| tjaalton | d | 19:00 |
| htorque | thinkpad here as well | 19:00 |
| DBO | oh joy | 19:00 |
| kenvandine | DBO, btw... my slow switcher on my intel desktop is no longer slow | 19:02 |
| kenvandine | DBO, so thanks! | 19:02 |
| DBO | htorque, if you want to go the final mile here | 19:02 |
| DBO | htorque, actually install that branch | 19:02 |
| DBO | and see if alt-asciicircum works for you | 19:02 |
| tjaalton | dash fadeout is rather slow on my 965 | 19:02 |
| DBO | kenvandine, i know :) | 19:02 |
| DBO | tjaalton, how slow? | 19:02 |
| tjaalton | DBO: I can see the frames | 19:03 |
| tjaalton | takes a second or so | 19:03 |
| DBO | how long? | 19:03 |
| DBO | wow... | 19:03 |
| tjaalton | didn't measure | 19:03 |
| DBO | let me see if neil is doing this the dumb way... | 19:03 |
| tjaalton | not that long I guess :) | 19:03 |
| htorque | oh noes, i installed it without prefix=/usr >:( | 19:03 |
| DBO | make uninstall | 19:03 |
| tjaalton | DBO: thanks for fixing this the right way ;) I'll /away myself and hit the sofa | 19:04 |
| DBO | tjaalton, thanks for testing | 19:04 |
| htorque | DBO: will rebuild then, what should alt+^ do? | 19:04 |
| DBO | you'll see | 19:05 |
| DBO | its obvious | 19:05 |
| DBO | just make sure you keep holding alt | 19:05 |
| DBO | use it like oyu would alt-tab | 19:05 |
| Sarvatt | something in the unity build-deps is depending on packages that were removed in xcb-utils 3.8.0 and using old packages that shouldn't even be in the archive anymore (they were all merged into libxcb-util0-dev) http://paste.ubuntu.com/675471/ | 19:05 |
| DBO | Sarvatt, poke seb or didrocks about that | 19:06 |
| DBO | common htorque... tell me it works | 19:11 |
| htorque | i'd love to, but nothing happens | 19:11 |
| htorque | DBO: but it looks like it's trying to do something as it's causing full load at one core | 19:14 |
| DBO | htorque, does alt-tab work? | 19:14 |
| htorque | yes | 19:14 |
| DBO | if while alt-tab is open | 19:14 |
| DBO | you press alt-^ | 19:14 |
| DBO | does that do something? | 19:14 |
| htorque | nope, not even cause cpu load | 19:15 |
| DBO | sun of a biscuit... | 19:15 |
| htorque | let me restart the session | 19:15 |
| htorque | nothing | 19:17 |
| DBO | fudge, hold on | 19:18 |
| seb128 | pedro_, still there? | 19:23 |
| pedro_ | seb128, yup! | 19:24 |
| seb128 | pedro_, http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-desktop/recent-package-bugs.html seems buggy | 19:24 |
| DBO | htorque, still with me? | 19:24 |
| seb128 | pedro_, there is no way unity is under those listed | 19:24 |
| htorque | DBO: sure | 19:25 |
| DBO | htorque, almost got something to test | 19:25 |
| htorque | i wanted to try the branch on a second system, but that is borked ("trunked") right now | 19:26 |
| htorque | DBO: good, i'm almost compiling it ;) | 19:26 |
| kenvandine | seb128, what... you think unity has bugs? :-p | 19:26 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, oh, I don't *think*, I *know* it ;-) | 19:26 |
| pedro_ | seb128, unity? you mean you'd like to see it there? we're just tracking the products under 'desktop-packages' team | 19:26 |
| pedro_ | and unity has no bugs of course | 19:27 |
| pedro_ | ;-) | 19:27 |
| seb128 | pedro_, ok, what is the url tracking the desktop-packages list? | 19:27 |
| seb128 | ie gnome, dx and other desktopish? | 19:27 |
| pedro_ | seb128, i've contacted the dx folks so they can create a team just for tracking their products so we can start creating those kind of reports for them | 19:27 |
| seb128 | lol | 19:27 |
| pedro_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/~desktop-packages/+packagebugs | 19:28 |
| seb128 | "contacted dx to get something done" | 19:28 |
| pedro_ | oh well | 19:28 |
| pedro_ | :-) | 19:28 |
| seb128 | you are new there? ;-) | 19:28 |
| seb128 | dx never get anything done | 19:28 |
| * pedro_ singing la la la | 19:28 | |
| kenvandine | it's like tedg reading bug mail | 19:29 |
| DBO | htorque, I dont want you to be stuck waiting | 19:43 |
| DBO | I cant seem to find the issue right now | 19:43 |
| htorque | DBO: no worries, i'll be around for a couple of hours | 19:44 |
| soren | DBO: pong | 19:51 |
| DBO | soren, nothing now, thanks :) | 19:51 |
| achiang | hello, is there a gdm branch for natty? debian/control just points to https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gdm/ubuntu which is way beyond what natty has | 21:00 |
| kenvandine | achiang, lp:ubuntu/gdm | 21:01 |
| kenvandine | whoops | 21:01 |
| kenvandine | achiang, lp:ubuntu/natty/gdm | 21:01 |
| achiang | kenvandine: ah! thank you | 21:01 |
| kenvandine | np | 21:01 |
| === kenvandine_ is now known as kenvandine | ||
| seb128 | have a good w.e everyone | 21:47 |
| seb128 | (oh, and just mentioning but I'm on holidays so not there next week) | 21:48 |
| === htorque is now known as htorque_ | ||
| === htorque_ is now known as htorque | ||
| DBO | anyone still in? | 22:51 |
| bryceh | DBO, yes, but busy on a project | 23:07 |
| DBO | you cant do me a code review anyway :( | 23:08 |
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