[00:00] <fishscene> user: I'm not finding a whole lot of information on the m1100, you may need to file a bugreport so someone can fix this.
[00:01] <urlin2u> _riz_, follow this link it defaults to using a live cd booted to load grub to a mbr, be sure to run the fdisk -l command to identify the mbr,and the installed partition, and read carefully there is a specific command if running natty, also use a natty cd for this, if you have a natty install
[00:01] <urlin2u> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy%20LiveCD%20Files
[00:01] <_riz_> urlin2u: ok, thanks.
[00:01] <itaylor57> KM0201, free ubuntu sticker for your PC http://www.system76.com/article_info.php?articles_id=9
[00:02] <urlin2u> _riz_, no problem
[00:02] <KM0201> itaylor57: i hate stickers.. :)
[00:02] <PDunny> What's up?
[00:02] <user> fishscene: How can I update pulseaudio? I have noticed that all my problems are gone with Ubuntu 11.04 but don't like the interface. I'm on 10.10
[00:02] <PDunny> Anyone feel like helping me with a chroot?
[00:02] <itaylor57> KM0201, has an ubuntu sticker for meta key
[00:03] <Corey> PDunny: Not if you don't ask a real question. :-)
[00:03] <qin> !classic > user
[00:03] <bittin_> itaylor57: they don't have any place in Sweden =(
[00:03] <PDunny> lol Corey, well I am trying to do a chroot from my hd and having problems with it
[00:03] <fishscene> user: in terminal: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[00:04] <fishscene> You can also use the software update (which I recommend)
[00:04] <fishscene> In Gnome, It's under administrative stuff
[00:05] <user> fishscene: I did all that but still get a cracking sound when booting and just before previewing a sound
[00:06] <user> Is their a way I can use the driver database from 11.04 in 10.10?
[00:06] <adante> is unionfs available in fuse only?
[00:07] <fishscene> user: There could be a couple of reasons for that (grounding/close wiring/driver issue) Other than those, I wouldn't know what would cause that.
[00:08] <ryan_46> mc
[00:08] <user> fishscene: It works great in Windows Xp, Vista & 7
[00:10] <user> fishscene: No I get this error: W: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'extras.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[00:10] <fishscene> user: Yes, but that's because the company appears to only support Windows. I haven't found anything for Ubuntu.
[00:10] <fishscene> lol. I love that error "something wicked happened..." sounds like a DNS resolving issue though :(
[00:10] <urlin2u> ryan-c, Donald
[00:10] <tacosrboss> i removed proprietary nvidia driver and now i get a mode not supported error from my monitor. even happens with failsafeX. how can i get that to not happen?
[00:11] <urlin2u> ryan_46,  Donald
[00:11] <user> I also get this error: W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-security/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'security.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[00:12] <urlin2u> user, is that the full error?
[00:12] <fishscene> user: hmm... I wasn't able to go there either at first, but now I can. Weird.
[00:13] <user> fishscene: Let me try again...
[00:13] <media-server> Hello everyone.  I just upgraded my motherboard, cpu, ram in Ubuntu Server 11.04 and have a small problem at boot, this error, sp5100 tco timer mmio address already in use.  And the grub2 splash screen is broken.
[00:13] <fishscene> I'm having some real issues connecting to that security link too
[00:13] <urlin2u> user, change the mirror to begin with, and or post your sources list in a pastebin.
[00:14] <fishscene> brb
[00:15] <user> urlin2u: How do I change the mirror? And where do I post my source list?
[00:15] <dio525i> how do i add a custom script to shutdown ubuntu 11.04
[00:16] <fishscene> ok back
[00:17] <urlin2u> user, changing mirror is software sources, the other in a terminal cat /etc/apt/sources.list  copied and pasted to   http://paste.ubuntu.com/  then post the url
[00:17] <glamorblue> ...
[00:18] <mustard> Anyone know how do a install a program i have compiled using Checkinstall and have it not overwrite older versions of the program?  For example, GIMP 2.7 needs to use intltool 0.40.1 but Ubuntu 11.04 has a younger version then that.
[00:19] <user> urlin2u: Ok I did that...http://paste.ubuntu.com/674929/
[00:19] <phillyj> anyone know the command "wget -O www.whatismyip.org" returns a missing url error?
[00:19] <safetynet> Is there an app that runs in Ubuntu that you could print a page as a .pdf ? ? Something like Cute PDF for windows.
[00:20] <phillyj> safetynet: yea, its in print
[00:20] <phillyj> print to file
[00:21] <urlin2u> user, the list looks okay so changing the mirror probably will fix it.
[00:21] <hjax> i tried xfce for the first time today (via xubuntu), why isnt it as popular as other desktop managers? It's fast, light, and pretty to look at
[00:21] <phillyj> safetynet: is that what you want to do? print a webpage or something?
[00:21] <safetynet> phillyj: Thanks could n't remember where I had found it before....
[00:21] <safetynet> phillyj: Yup
[00:21] <bazhang> hjax, thats more of a topic for #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:21] <PDunny> Anyone here familiar with the kubuntu-mobile project?
[00:22] <bazhang> PDunny, whats the real question
[00:22] <PDunny> How do I launch the GUI for Kubuntu Mobile from a terminal?
[00:22] <phillyj> someone help me with trying to get wget to return the result of www.whatismyip.org?
[00:22] <th0r> phillyj: that site appears to be down
[00:23] <user> urlin2u: But will it solve my audio problem? Dam, actually I have many problems. Maybe I not cut out for Ubuntu.
[00:23] <th0r> phillyj: and it just seems to have come back up...try that wget again
[00:24] <urlin2u> user, you will notice though that the address throwing the error is not in the list where did you get it, a ppa?  A far as predicting your computer success in audio who knows to be honest.
[00:26] <NonConformist> sigh........
[00:26] <Amin> down with the Islamic Republic regiem
[00:26] <NonConformist> ubuntu hates me now
[00:26] <user> urlin2u: If I do a complete system backup with Remastersys can I then install it on a desktop....then updating drivers
[00:26] <bazhang> Amin, wrong channel
[00:27] <urlin2u> user, I am not familiar with Remastersys, I use clonezilla
[00:27] <phillyj> lol
[00:28] <urlin2u> user, where did you get this address  Remastersys
[00:28] <KrazyKrivda> I'm trying to use a thunderbird 6 profile from windows 7 on ubuntu 11.04.. all seems well but I cannot get the lightning to install properly.. any advice?
[00:28] <urlin2u> user, sorry this  http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/Release.gpg
[00:28] <bazhang> urlin2u, its in a ppa from a random 3rd party source
[00:28] <phillyj> th0r: hmm, seems i didn't give a location for the save file location
[00:29] <anthony> Anybody know how i can update my 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx to a 64 bit version to allocate all of my system RAM ?
[00:29] <bazhang> anthony, you have 32 bit now?
[00:29] <user> url2u: You got me...I did some updates today
[00:29] <urlin2u> bazhang, I figured that thanks just wondering which one.
[00:29] <th0r> phillyj: when I first tried that url it refused to respond. Continued to fail until just after I sent the irc comment. But it seems to be working ok now.
[00:29] <bazhang> urlin2u, webupd8 iirc
[00:30] <electrodib> phillyj, lynx -dump www.whatismyip.org
[00:30] <urlin2u> bazhang, what package it is a bin download
[00:30] <bazhang> urlin2u, its a repo (ppa)
[00:31] <th0r> electrodib: nice trick
[00:31] <user> urlin2u: I did that update & upgrade and it is working now...it only did an java update
[00:31] <bazhang> anthony, you on 32bit now? or want to use the pae kernel
[00:31] <user> urlin2u: Can clonezilla make an complete system ISO?
[00:32] <urlin2u> user, cool so that is working, I'm not familiar with any possibilities as far as sound though
[00:32] <anthony> bazhang what is the pae kernel
[00:32] <phillyj> electrodib: nice but doesn't help me since I need it for conky
[00:32] <anthony> You are using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[00:32] <anthony>                 - the Lucid Lynx - released in April 2010 and supported until April 2013. - pretty much all i know
[00:32] <coz_> !pae
[00:32] <urlin2u> user, no it copies the OS to packages with a cd and installs back using that cd.
[00:32] <bazhang> anthony, it lets you use more than the limit normally under 32bit systems
[00:33] <anthony> for a new to ubuntu guy would you recommend just using the pae
[00:33] <anthony> or going witht he full 64 bit, what would be the advantages/disadvantages of the two
[00:33] <urlin2u> user, best and easiest when the second partition is the same number, and it has to be the same size as the original or bigger.
[00:33] <bazhang> anthony, install linux-generic-pae to get it, or full reinstall to get 64 bit, first do uname -m in terminal please
[00:33] <electrodib> phillyj: what wants conky, a text file ? lynx -dump www.whatismyip.org >myip.txt
[00:34] <anthony> i686
[00:34] <user> urlin2u: I need a program that can make a complete system ISO...do you know of any?
[00:34] <th0r> electrodib: returns two lines....he will need only the second line
[00:34] <bazhang> anthony, thats 32bit,
[00:34] <urlin2u> user, not really but there are some maybe others know.
[00:35] <phillyj> electrodib: i got it
[00:35] <electrodib> cool :-)
[00:35] <phillyj> electrodib: i forgot a dash
[00:35] <anthony> bazhang what would be the benefit of having 64 bit linux
[00:35] <bazhang> !info genisoimage | user
[00:36] <bazhang> anthony, none that I know of, up to you (no real drawbacks either)
[00:38] <user> urlin2u: The other problem I'm having is with Google Chrome and Chromium
[00:38] <urlin2u> user, I don't use ethier but go ahead.
[00:39] <coz_> anthony,  since you are new to linux,,, installing PAE kernel could be a way of  getting some fast knowledge however,, if you want to first run with full memory capablility,, install the 64 bit,, learn what you can , and at a later point,, give the pae a whirl when you feel more experienced,, but as already said ,, it is up to you
[00:40] <anthony> I think i'll try the PAE for now
[00:40] <anthony> as I'm still learning
[00:40] <bazhang> anthony, then install the package ----> linux-generic-pae
[00:40] <user> urlin2u: I need to delete the data they store or something. When I open any of them they work fine until and search webupd8 in google and the result are displayed. 5 seconds later it crash.
[00:41] <bazhang> user you were asking about this yesterday; why do you have chromium-browser and chrome?
[00:41] <anthony> installing now,
[00:41] <anthony> i installed a version of flash for gnome
[00:41] <anthony> and its not working properly
[00:42] <urlin2u> user, http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95582
[00:42] <bazhang> user you are using the repo from google for chrome, correct?
[00:42] <bazhang> anthony, installed how, from where
[00:42] <anthony> by the GUI, from a site requiring swf object
[00:42] <anthony> or something
[00:42] <anthony> it let me select from 3
[00:42] <coz_> ooo
[00:43] <bazhang> anthony, thats not the way to install it, use the package manager
[00:43] <coz_> anthony,   sudo apt-get install  ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:43] <anthony> how can i find what i just downloaded
[00:43] <anthony> and delete then?
[00:43] <coz_> anthony,  that will install the proper version of flash among other things
[00:43] <WillowMouse> ok so, I got my earlier problems solved
[00:43] <coz_> excellent
[00:43] <WillowMouse> and now my dual monitor is giving me problems
[00:44] <PDunny> Question: From a terminal, how would I launch a login screen with KDE (I believe)
[00:44] <coz_> WillowMouse,   which video card?
[00:44] <user> bazhang: Yes....I had Google installed then Ubuntu installed Chromium
[00:44] <WillowMouse> ATI Radeon 3200
[00:44] <rodmena_> hey
[00:44] <bazhang> user you mean you installed chromium, are you on gnome, kde4, xfce4, or lxde+openbox
[00:45] <coz_> WillowMouse,  ok then I will have to let someone else take this,, I only use nvidia
[00:45] <WillowMouse> Basically, it can see that there's another monitor plugged in, but it wont dual screen it, something about automatically finding the right resolution, I hit yes and it says log out, and then back in, then when I do, it just says the same thing.
[00:45] <bazhang> user ubuntu does not install things itself, without user interaction
[00:45] <rodmena_> anyone here?
[00:46] <bazhang> rodmena_, yes
[00:46] <chachingswagger> ah huh
[00:46] <WillowMouse> wat do?
[00:46] <user> bazhang: I'm on gnome...Ubuntu 10.10. I installed Google Chrome and when I did an Ubuntu update it automaticlly installed Chromium
[00:47] <chachingswagger> i got ylmf
[00:47] <nekotreci> what is the minimal requirment version of linux, i now have ubuntu and it is too good for my machine
[00:47] <bazhang> chachingswagger, thats not supported here, try their support forums
[00:47] <chachingswagger> its like a 300mhz for cpu
[00:47] <WillowMouse> Can anyone help me with my problem?
[00:48] <DoctorBlackbird> How do i compile?
[00:48] <urlin2u> chachingswagger, not supported here
[00:48] <WillowMouse> I know I have all the right drivers, I just updated them today.
[00:48] <anthony> bazhang its showing the disclaimer for mscorefonts
[00:48] <chachingswagger> wha u mean im not?
[00:48] <JoeR1> I would like to change the text on my trash bin from "Empty Trash" to "Exterminate Trash"  does anyone know how I might do this?
[00:48] <bazhang> !compile > DoctorBlackbird
[00:48] <chachingswagger> its working rite now....
[00:48] <WillowMouse> Basically, it can see that there's another monitor plugged in, but it wont dual screen it, something about automatically finding the right resolution, I hit yes and it says log out, and then back in, then when I do, it just says the same thing.
[00:48] <anthony> in my terminal
[00:48] <nekotreci> what is the lightest version of linux ?
[00:48] <urlin2u> chachingswagger, the ylmf is not supported here this is ubuntu only.
[00:49] <Jasonn> I need help fixing locales.
[00:49] <bazhang> chachingswagger, ylmfos is not supported here, try their support forums
[00:49] <uns0b1ll_> anyone with ser2net experience ?
[00:50] <anthony> awesome
[00:50] <anthony> fixed it
[00:50] <bazhang> nekotreci, the lightest ubuntu variant is lubuntu
[00:50] <anthony> lol
[00:50] <chachingswagger> so what? for what?
[00:50] <bazhang> !lubuntu | nekotreci
[00:50] <wolfgang> hi
[00:50] <user> nekotreci: Try "Damn Small Linux"
[00:50] <wolfgang> how do I register a nickname here?
[00:50] <urlin2u> nekotreci, http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/   and the multitudes of puppy linux and it's pupplets
[00:51] <wolfgang> register
[00:52] <urlin2u> wolfgang, http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[00:52] <nekotreci> can i install damn small linux on ubuntu ?
[00:52] <wolfgang> thank you
[00:52] <bazhang> wolfgang, /join #freenode
[00:52] <bazhang> nekotreci, no
[00:52] <tom_> test
[00:54] <urlin2u> nekotreci, in a virtual yes
[00:54] <dsnyders> nekotreci, You could try setting up a dual boot, or something.  I'd recommend DSL on a USB flash drive.
[00:54] <Kyle__> How do you prevent the updatemanager from popping up?  I tried gconftool-2
[00:55] <user> What's the best internet browser for Ubuntu?
[00:55] <dsnyders> nekotreci, Why would you want to?
[00:55] <nekotreci> i have weak machine , 512 ram
[00:56] <anthony> After i did the command to instal PAE must i reboot to activate?
[00:56] <bazhang> nekotreci, then try lubuntu
[00:56] <bazhang> anthony, yes
[00:56] <SubCool> can i use a kubuntu startup disk as a usable operating system
[00:56] <anthony> kk brb
[00:56] <nekotreci> i need just bluefish, chromium and conection to server, i am scared to this gonna not work
[00:56] <urlin2u> Kyle__, software sources accessed from synaptic in natty, turn off updates, or in startup applications-update notifier
[00:56] <nekotreci> i installed lxde on ubuntu and there i cant connect to server
[00:57] <bazhang> nekotreci, installed what exact package
[00:57] <dsnyders> nekotreci, I recommend going to pendrive linux and giving some of the lightweight distros a try.  Then when you find one that works, you can install it permanently.
[00:57] <nekotreci> i typed in synpatic lxde and installed first
[00:57] <bazhang> dsnyders, lets stay on ubuntu support here please
[00:57] <urlin2u> nekotreci, make sure the network manager is set to all users, in the first desktop
[00:57] <bazhang> nekotreci, thats not it, it's lubuntu-desktop
[00:58] <urlin2u> bazhang, lxde installs it
[00:58] <nekotreci> but with lxde i caoont connect to ftp using simple folder like in ubntu
[01:00] <wolfgang> excuse me Mr. Admin,
[01:00] <user> urlin2u: Can I use Alsa instead
[01:01] <wolfgang> the nicknam wolfgang seems that the owner not use it any more...
[01:01] <bazhang> wolfgang, /join #freenode
[01:01] <Amin> wolfgang, for that matter join #help
[01:02] <urlin2u> user, I'm not real familiar with sound in general, I just use the stock setup.
[01:02] <SubCool> anyone
[01:02] <anthony> who man, its really choppy now...
[01:02] <anthony> whoa*
[01:02] <Adam__> any ubuntu server gurus in here that can help me out with a problem
[01:02] <bazhang> Adam__, whats the real question
[01:02] <wolfgang> thank you
[01:02] <wolfgang> join /#help
[01:03] <Amin> Adam__, what's your f*ckin' problem?
[01:03] <wolfgang> I can't join help
[01:03] <Amin> type: /join #help
[01:04] <user> urlin2u: How can I reload the update that Uubntu did? Or do I just have to wait until Ubuntu sets out the next update?
[01:04] <bazhang> Amin, watch the language and attitude
[01:04] <wolfgang> it's for invite only
[01:04] <wolfgang> it says
[01:04] <Amin> hmmm :-?
[01:04] <Kyle__> Wow..
[01:04] <wolfgang> ya, funny isnit?
[01:05] <urlin2u> user, that is a confusing question reload a upload already there?
[01:05] <bazhang> wolfgang, you are in #freenode , no need to join that, ask your questions there please
[01:05] <Amin> try #freenode
[01:05] <MDesigner> hey guys, anyone know who I can talk to about composing a new Ubuntu login tune/sound?
[01:05] <trond-> does anyone know of an editor where I can use regexp, get a result on many lines can copy the selected lines? (let's say 100 lines are marked)
[01:05] <Kyle__> So I've got a system that runs gconftool-2 --set /apps/update-notifier/show_apport_crashes --type bool false on startup (it's a VM, hence running it every time), but it doesn't stick.  I log in, and gconftool-2 tells me that show_apport_crashes is true.
[01:06] <Kyle__> Any ideas/
[01:06] <Adam__> bazhang: I just installed ubuntu server 11.04 with lamp, ssh, etc. To setup apache I just copied the default site to www.adamgleason.com (my site), changed it around to fit my site directories etc., but when I try to go to www.adamgleason.com it doesn't connect
[01:06] <Amin> what's that +j mode FloodBot1 sets on channel all the time?
[01:06] <th0r> trond-: you might be able to do that in nedit
[01:06] <trond-> nedit, ok. thanks. I'll check it out
[01:06] <user> urlin2u: I need to redo the update that Ubuntu gave me to do. I think I uninstalled some programs that was needed for Google Chrome
[01:06] <Kyle__>  /ignore Amin
[01:06] <anthony> i just installed the PAE kernel, and now when i click and drag windows it seems really choppy
[01:06] <MDesigner> I'd like to contribute to Ubuntu by producing a new login sound... who should I get in touch with?
[01:06] <dsnyders> Adam__, Are the IP addresses correct?
[01:07] <uns0b1ll_> need command to view usb devices
[01:07] <Adam__> bazhang: and everything I read online says that you don't have to configure anything for apache to work, just copy the site file, and a2ensite
[01:07] <MDesigner> uns0b1ll_: lsusb
[01:07] <th0r> uns0b1ll_: lsusb
[01:07] <Kyle__> anthony: PAE kernels give you a consistant performance hit, something like 10% +-5.
[01:07] <urlin2u> user, if they are needed they will be in a update if you run one, were the removed things not addons?
[01:07] <Kyle__> anthony: That said, choppy dragging windows sounds strange.
[01:07] <anthony> Kyle_ then why would anyone reccommend...
[01:08] <anthony> i just added 6 gigs to memory and it looks sluggish
[01:08] <Kyle__> anthony: If you have over 4GB of ram and are on a 32bit system, PAE is neccesary.
[01:08] <dhevil> any videographers here?
[01:08] <anthony> my system monitor window is fine...
[01:08] <kobhqlt> Hi there. i'm looking for something like crontab, but for execute a command every n times, in background. does is exists ?
[01:08] <anthony> when i click and drag title bar
[01:08] <anthony> when i click and drag title bar of irc, or mozilla
[01:08] <anthony> it looks sluggish
[01:09] <user> urlin2u: What do you mean "were the removed things not addons?
[01:09] <user> urlin2u: I didn't have any addons for Google Chrome or Chromium
[01:10] <urlin2u> user, all browser have addons, extra stuff, not in the ubuntu repos. Are you talking about downloads you have removed that were not from the ubuntu repos
[01:10] <hellhammer> I'm running ubuntu 10.04 is there any way i can make it so it mounts a partition on boot?
[01:10] <h00k> ubottu: fstab | hellhammer
[01:10] <urlin2u> hellhammer, fstab
[01:10] <anthony> ill get back to it gotta run for now
[01:10] <dhevil> hellhammer edit fstab
[01:10] <kobhqlt> i'm looking for something like crontab, but for execute a command every n times, in background. does is exists ?
[01:11] <IdleOne> kobhqlt: yes, cron
[01:11] <kobhqlt> cron is for every day at xx:xx:xx no ? i need every N min for exemple
[01:11] <dhevil> any one on video editing here?
[01:11] <th0r> kobhqlt: cron will do that
[01:11] <bazhang> dhevil, whats the real question
[01:12] <kobhqlt> th0r: how?
[01:12] <uns0b1ll_> lsusb doesnt show /dev/ttyS devices
[01:12] <th0r> kobhqlt: 'man cron'
[01:12] <uns0b1ll_> i need to view /dev/ttyS devices
[01:12] <IdleOne> !cron
[01:12] <kobhqlt> well ok thx th0r
[01:12] <user> urlin2u: When I did an update I did an update from the Ubuntu repos...then it reinstalled crape like "mines". I then uninstalled programs but I think I removed something that is required for Google Chrome
[01:12] <dhevil> bazhag looking for first hand experience on vid edit sofware...  preferablly on IFX ant.
[01:12] <Kyle__> dhevil: Not too much, but a tad.  If you're wondering, yes pitivi is pathetic, you can do more with clever use of mencoder.
[01:12] <zattalov> salu tt le monde
[01:13] <dhevil> kdenlive and pitvi plus live is not sufficinet for me.. thinkin deeper.
[01:13] <dhevil> compositing
[01:13] <somsip> kobhqlt: your crontab would be something like */5 * * * * for every 5 mins
[01:13] <IdleOne> !fr | zattalov
[01:13] <urlin2u> user, without you knowing what it is, all I can recommend is a try a update in the update manager.
[01:13] <dhevil> plus color correcting. primary, secondary
[01:13] <acovrig> what would cause an IO error for `hciconfig hci0 inqmode 0' ?
[01:13] <Kyle__> dhevil: There are better linux video editing apps, but they are much more advanced, big learning curve.
[01:13] <kobhqlt> somsip: nice thanks
[01:14] <somsip> kobhqlt: yr welcome
[01:14] <dhevil> kyle. referring to cinelerra?
[01:14] <user> urlin2u: That doesn't work...geuess I have to wait for the next Ubuntu update
[01:14] <dhevil> am sniffing around forany personal reviews on ifx software for linux.
[01:14] <Kyle__> dhevil: that's one of them.  I think there's another as well.  I've never done more than poke at them myself.  My wife has a nice mac from her work, and it has all the adobe suite on it, as well as imovie, so I just use that :)
[01:15] <uns0b1ll_> and how can i trying
[01:15] <uns0b1ll_> trying to view /dev/ttyS devices
[01:15] <urlin2u> user, if you removed a needed part it would show now not necessarily in with a regular offered update.
[01:15] <thunsucker> uns0b1ll_, sudo cat /dev/ttyS ?
[01:15] <dhevil> Kyle, ye. i use adobe plus final cut. but how i wish i could keep to linux for work even. :(
[01:15] <urlin2u> user, you could purge it and reinstall, if you want, if you really think something is missing.
[01:16] <uns0b1ll_> i need to view which /dev/ttyS devices active
[01:16] <dhevil> IFX looks most promising. yet i cant find some one with first hand experience.
[01:16] <urlin2u> uns0b1ll_, please don't repeat.
[01:16] <uns0b1ll_> urlin2u,  sorry
[01:16] <Kyle__> dhevil: I'm OK with OSX: it's a real unix, even though they try and hide it.  That said, I'd love to do it under linux, just haven't had time to learn the tools.  When I do it under linux, I generally build a hefty mencoder script...tedious. :)
[01:16] <user> urlin2u: Then it must be something cached but OK I'm willing to Purge. How does that work?
[01:17] <thunsucker> uns0b1ll_, what is your goal, you trying to see who is logged in as who?
[01:17] <uns0b1ll_> thunsucker, no, cat /dev/ttyS0 returns nothing
[01:17] <urlin2u> user, sudo apt-get purge "package name"
[01:17] <user> urlin2u: I also ran Bleechbit but still the same
[01:17] <dhevil> kyle> is there anyhting other than cinellera?
[01:17] <uns0b1ll_> thunsucker, no, i'm trying to use my serial port to connect to switch
[01:17] <IdleOne> dhevil: take a look at openshot
[01:17] <thunsucker> uns0b1ll_, use putty, much easier
[01:18] <bazhang> !nickspam > Plasmaster
[01:18] <uns0b1ll_> i need telnet to cisco switch
[01:18] <user> urlin2u: Must the package be installed? Coz I allready uninstalled Google Chrome
[01:18] <uns0b1ll_> thunsucker, so i need to setup ser2net first
[01:18] <vincenzo> hello i have a little problem
[01:18] <vincenzo> can iu help me
[01:18] <vincenzo> ?
[01:18] <thunsucker> uns0b1ll_, if you need to telnet to a cisco switch, then you would do: telnet ip-of-switch
[01:18] <urlin2u> user, you can only purge installed packages
[01:18] <vincenzo> my external display is off
[01:19] <amflir> vincenzo, lol
[01:19] <uns0b1ll_> thunsucker, you can't use ip networking on switch before it was configured
[01:19] <thunsucker> uns0b1ll_, if the switch has an ip then you would telnet to it, if you must monitor it via the console port, then use putty to access your com ports
[01:19] <urlin2u> vincenzo, go to  monitors and see whats up
[01:19] <thunsucker> uns0b1ll_, correct, so you are trying to "console" the switch. use putty to access your com poart
[01:19] <user> urlin2u: I'm going to dowmload the Google Chrome again and Purge it and see what happens.
[01:19] <thunsucker> *port
[01:20] <bazhang> amflir, thats enough
[01:20] <uns0b1ll_> thunsucker, oh you mean use putty instead of telnet
[01:20] <uns0b1ll_> thunsucker, okay
[01:20] <thunsucker> uns0b1ll_, use putty, choose com port, and click open
[01:20] <uns0b1ll_> let me install putty on my buntu box
[01:20] <thunsucker> uns0b1ll_, sudo apt-get install putty
[01:21] <uns0b1ll_> thunsucker, you forgot the last portion of command :"...and get some beer"
[01:21] <fishscene> lol
[01:21] <InvaderZim> okkkkkkk anyone here good with spreadsheet formulas?
[01:22] <InvaderZim> that can help me?
[01:22] <thunsucker> InvaderZim, this is a chat room for linux not speadshets
[01:22] <thunsucker> InvaderZim | topic
[01:22] <thunsucker> InvaderZim | topic!
[01:22] <InvaderZim> thunsucker: well, since I'm using libreoffice, shipped with stock ubuntu
[01:22] <InvaderZim> thunsucker: i'm having trouble with using it, so I guess it counts
[01:22] <IdleOne> InvaderZim: try #libreoffice
[01:22] <Plasmaster> Aww, they stopped shipping OpenOffice?
[01:22] <Plasmaster> What a shame!
[01:22] <thunsucker> InvaderZim, #libreoffice
[01:23] <InvaderZim> i'm trying there no one answers maybe a good soul here could help
[01:23] <urlin2u> vincenzo, have you looked for the monitors app in applications?
[01:23] <IdleOne> InvaderZim: your issue is not an Ubuntu issue please use the appropriate channel/forum
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[01:23] <InvaderZim> IdleOne: okie dokie
[01:23] <IdleOne> thank you :)
[01:24] <uns0b1ll_> all i get on telnetting to cisco switch
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[01:24] <vincenzo> yes
[01:24] <thunsucker> uns0b1ll_, don't choose telnet, choose the com port
[01:24] <vincenzo> the monitor is on
[01:24] <uns0b1ll_> thunsucker, nothing
[01:24] <vincenzo> end mouse follow the other screen
[01:24] <uns0b1ll_> thunsucker, black screen perhaps bit parity options
[01:24] <thunsucker> uns0b1ll_, what did it give you as the default com ?
[01:25] <uns0b1ll_> /dev/sst0
[01:25] <uns0b1ll_> /dev/ttys0 i mean
[01:25] <thunsucker> uns0b1ll_, try /dev/ttsys1
[01:25] <uns0b1ll_> no its
[01:25] <thunsucker> oops
[01:25] <thunsucker> /dev/ttys1
[01:25] <uns0b1ll_> /dev/ttys1 and /dev/ttys10
[01:25] <urlin2u> !pm | vincenzo
[01:25] <IdleOne> !it | vincenzo
[01:25] <urlin2u> vincenzo, I asked you to not contact me do not continue to do so 4 times is enough.
[01:26] <vincenzo> sorry
[01:27] <thunsucker> uns0b1ll_, make sure the speed is set for 9600 and try moving the /dev/ttys0 to /dev/ttys1 and /dev/ttys2 and so on to see if you get a response
[01:27] <thunsucker> uns0b1ll_, you will also have to click in the black screen and press enter to get a response
[01:27] <urlin2u> vinces, I will be glad to help you here,  have you looked for the monitors app in applications?
[01:27] <thunsucker> uns0b1ll_, also, are you using a blue cisco monitor cable?
[01:27] <bazhang> urlin2u, he quit
[01:27] <IdleOne> urlin2u: he parted and is now seeking help in -it
[01:27] <uns0b1ll_> basically i have 2 usb to serial adapters
[01:27] <urlin2u> cool
[01:27] <uns0b1ll_> blue cable
[01:27] <uns0b1ll_> and bunch of cisco sexy switches ;)
[01:28] <thunsucker> uns0b1ll_, is it the actual cisco one?
[01:28] <uns0b1ll_> umm yes its blue cable
[01:28] <uns0b1ll_> rollover
[01:28] <uns0b1ll_> not sure if its from cisco or china
[01:28] <uns0b1ll_> :D
[01:29] <IdleOne> !enter | uns0b1ll_
[01:29] <urlin2u> bazhang, it's not that I mind a PM but every one turns into a phishing fest get to wierd fast.
[01:29] <thunsucker> uns0b1ll_, well can't help you further from here if you can't anser questions, however the ubuntu part is done
[01:29] <bazhang> urlin2u, yep, better to all support here
[01:29] <urlin2u> bazhang, I agree, we all learn
[01:29] <uns0b1ll_> thunsucker, thank you too much :D
[01:30] <thunsucker> urlin2u, i feel your pain, i hate the random begging to download US based software that they can't from their country
[01:30] <Davion> huh?
[01:31] <urlin2u> thunsucker, I don't like being fished, my narcissism is already running at full speed. ;-)
[01:32] <Firefishe> I have a new install of kubuntu 11.04.  I am having terrible problems with X and the nvidia-current (proprietary) driver, both 173 and the 'recommended' one.  Under certain conditions, when I resize konsole, that action causes the entire computer to freeze, forcing me to hard-reboot.  Is this a known problem?
[01:32] <Firefishe> ...this is also prevelant across Unity (although I can use the compiz workaround to solve gnome/unity's issues).
[01:33] <thunsucker> Firefishe, did you ask in the #kubuntu channel?
[01:33] <user> Can someone help me with Teamviewer?
[01:33] <thunsucker> topic! | user
[01:33] <thunsucker> off topic! | user
[01:33] <Firefishe> thunsucker: aeons ago .. I find there's a good mix of cross-desktop knowledge in this channel--and this channel is usually more active, from my own experiences.
[01:34] <thunsucker> darn it, i don't know the command :(
[01:34] <bazhang> thunsucker, dont do that
[01:34] <Firefishe> heya baz
[01:34] <thunsucker> bazhang, but i really want to!
[01:34] <thunsucker> lol
[01:34] <user> thunsucker: My browsers just stop working
[01:34] <bazhang> thunsucker, wrong place for it.
[01:35] <Firefishe> 11.04 is proving to be mildly problematic on my box.  Would switching back to 10.04 LTS really be so bad?
[01:35] <thunsucker> Firefishe, yes i understand. Are there any bleeding edge drivers for your card?
[01:35] <urlin2u> user, here is a natty instructions link, thats all I know. http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/03/install-teamviewer-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal/
[01:35] <thunsucker> user, browsers stop working? does anything else die?
[01:35] <Firefishe> thunsucker: I guess I can check out nvidia's website.
[01:35] <bazhang> urlin2u, I imagine he wants someone to remotely fix his system
[01:35] <thunsucker> Firefishe, you won't have much luck there
[01:36] <urlin2u> bazhang, I was about to discourage that, in that I doubt any will. ;-)
[01:36] <bazhang> user, remove the google repo is the first step. then try again (ie uninstall chrome)
[01:37] <phrostbite> What app do i need to open 7z files?
[01:37] <thunsucker> Firefishe, you might look here but i don't knwo if it applies to nvidia or not
[01:37] <thunsucker> Firefishe, https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[01:37] <user> thunsucker: Everything else is fine...browser works fine until I get a Google page result that include multiple sites like Downloads, Contacts, News ext
[01:37] <thunsucker> user, try a different browser
[01:37] <Firefishe> thunsucker: thank you.  I'll look there.
[01:38] <user> thunsucker: Firefox works but don't like it
[01:38] <thunsucker> user, if it solves your problem for a few minutes to get teamviewer workign then it's worth it
[01:38] <uns0b1ll_> thunsucker, its okay i think i found it :)
[01:38] <uns0b1ll_> thunsucker, my tap0 interface required also i think
[01:38] <user> thunsucker: I have teamviwer ready
[01:39] <uns0b1ll_> user, why not use join.me ?
[01:39] <thunsucker> uns0b1ll_, it's not a hard concept. you plug your com port into the console port of the switch, open putty and tell it to open a connection to the com port, stop bugging me
[01:39] <uns0b1ll_> user, its pretty nice
[01:39] <uns0b1ll_> thunsucker, lol get lost then
[01:40] <user> I allready have Teamviwer installed...should I get Join.me instead
[01:40] <Sargalus> can anyone help me get identd installed on ubuntu
[01:41] <uns0b1ll_> user, you dont need install it, just type it in your browser and create session
[01:41] <uns0b1ll_> user, and i would be carefully giving remote sessions to people on irc chats
[01:41] <bazhang> !nickspam > huawa_fraunz
[01:41] <NonConformist> -.- This is pissing me off. It seems ubuntu is trying to force me to install with a usb or cd......
[01:41] <NonConformist> Nothing else seems to be working
[01:42] <thunsucker> user, so teamviewer works but then your browser stops?
[01:42] <thunsucker> NonConformist, how are you trying to install?
[01:42] <user> uns0b1ll: I' desprate. I don't have any information on this pc.
[01:43] <NonConformist> thunsuck, i've tried a frugal install with unetbootin and using grub on a seperate partition to run the iso....
[01:43] <NonConformist> thunsucker*
[01:43] <betanick> does anybody know a good guide on how to setup an access point with ubuntu?
[01:43] <Firefishe> thunsucker: I'm going to try the driver on nvidia's website for my particular chipset:  9800M GS  It'
[01:43] <fishscene> I always set up my AP's with the built-in webpage on the AP.
[01:44] <NonConformist> I'm not sure what else to try .... lol
[01:44] <th0r> betanick: that would depend on the AP...best bet would be the manufacturers website
[01:44] <thunsucker> NonConformist, you can boot the unetbootin stick and install ubuntu directly from that?
[01:44] <user> thunsucker: Yes I have internet but my Chromium doesn't work. But Firefox work
[01:44] <Firefishe> thunsucker: last characters typos
[01:44] <thunsucker> user, then your problem is with chromium, remove it and then reinstall
[01:44] <thunsucker> Firefishe, cool!
[01:44] <NonConformist> thunsucker, well I can't do that i'm using unetbootin to install from my HD not from a usb
[01:45] <urlin2u> NonConformist, that only works on occasion
[01:45] <NonConformist> I don't have a usb or cds
[01:45] <thunsucker> NonConformist, okay i get it now, you don't have a cd or usb stick and are trying to setup your hard drive to host the ISO so you can can just install from that?
[01:45] <NonConformist> yes
[01:45] <thunsucker> NonConformist, you would make your life much simplier to buy a pack of $1 cd's
[01:45] <user> thunsucker: I know my problem is with Chromium, I can't fix it. I did remove repos and unistalled it..still doesn't work. Same with Google Chrome
[01:46] <thunsucker> user, when you installed it, did you amke sure it was updated?
[01:46] <fishscene> user: did you remove any user-settings chromium might've dumped in your user folder?
[01:46] <urlin2u> user, purge them then go to home and remove the file then reinstall
[01:46] <NonConformist> thunsucker, if only it were that easy.... i just recently got honorably discharged and really don't have the money to pay for anything right now lol... so i'm looking for other methods of install
[01:46] <user> thunsucker: I did an update...still doesn't work
[01:47] <urlin2u> NonConformist, use the partition boot to install to the external
[01:47] <th0r> NonConformist: would virtualbox be an option?
[01:47] <user> fishscene: I used Bleechbit. I think my pc is clean of cache. temp files
[01:48] <NonConformist> th0r, heh I'd rather not, but i'm not sure if i have any other options left
[01:49] <craigbass> So, my wife is on our desktop.  I'm also logged in, but she did a switch user on me.  I have an instance of gedit and xchat open on that box.  Is it possible to send them from that x server to this one?  I know I can ssh -X and fire up a new app, but I wanted to have a look at the existing one without a vnc app
[01:49] <thunsucker> user, disable bleechbit, remove temp files, remove any chrome settings, then try again
[01:49] <Firefishe> thunsucker: For the benefit of the community using the 9800M GS nvidia chipset on their laptops, the direct link for the driver I'm *trying* is:  http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-280.13-driver.html
[01:49] <NonConformist> urlin2u, install to the external? not understanding maybe i misread
[01:50] <magic_ninja> hey I just found out I have a rootkit on my mbr, I dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu.  I need to rewrite my MBR, so do I need to do this through grub, or is the windows mbr still there?
[01:50] <urlin2u> NonConformist, have you looked for veterans support as far as computrr stuff,  have a friend who works with re-integration team they do that sort of thing
[01:50] <thunsucker> magic_ninja, when you boot up do you get a grub boot menu?
[01:50] <magic_ninja> yes
[01:50] <craigbass> And I'd also like to know that I've bent the ear of the alt ed person at a local school; he had no idea you could set up a free web server in the classroom for kids to learn the process of making and uploading a site.  I think I'm going to be stopping into his classroom in the near future.
[01:51] <thunsucker> magic_ninja, when you need to rewrite your MBR with grub again
[01:51] <magic_ninja> but grub also uses chainloader, so is there still a windows 7 mbr there?
[01:51] <user> thunsucker: Where do I remove the settings. Do I have to reinstall then remove settings vai the browser?
[01:52] <craigbass> Oops, I meant like YOU all to know...
[01:52] <thunsucker> user, should be /home/username/.chromium
[01:53] <craigbass> thunsucker, user I think it's ~/.config/chromium/
[01:53] <NonConformist> urlin2u, I'm sorry what do you mean exactly? You mean veteran support as in my current job situation?
[01:53] <user> thunsucker: I'll have a look.
[01:53] <qwaz> What is the rc.local file used for I dont understand
[01:53] <thunsucker> user, read what craigbass just posted he suggested a different path
[01:54] <craigbass> user, it is in fact that; I just checked
[01:54] <craigbass> chromium just HAS to be different...  although there's a bunch of other stuff in there I see...
[01:54] <craigbass> So, my wife is on our desktop.  I'm also logged in, but she did a switch user on me.  I have an instance of gedit and xchat open on that box.  Is it possible to send them from that x server to this one?  I know I can ssh -X and fire up a new app, but I wanted to have a look at the existing one without a vnc app
[01:55] <thunsucker> craigbass, hmmm not sure if thats possible or not
[01:55] <betanick> where can i get reconstructor?
[01:55] <urlin2u> NonConformist, I have a friend who is part of the veterans re-integration team, these are veterans leaving the military as of now, they help in many areas one of which is helping with economic areas if possible.
[01:55] <ForSpareParts> anybody know how to scale the screen image?
[01:55] <ForSpareParts> I'm using an old TV and the image is off the screen
[01:56] <ForSpareParts> and I don't have a remote yet...
[01:56] <thunsucker> ForSpareParts, go to monitors and change the resolution
[01:56] <ForSpareParts> thunsucker it's not the resolution, unfortunately
[01:57] <craigbass> thunsucker, oh.  I thought I exported it to a different display, once upon a time, like Fedora1...
[01:57] <I-want-money> where is the X11 configuration file on ubuntu?
[01:57] <craigbass> I-want-money, /etc/X11 ?
[01:57] <user> thunsucker: I just checked...It's not in their but in my user/.config
[01:57] <gartral> hey all, I bought a few peices of software off the Software Center a while back, suffered a hard drive crash, and had too reload Ubuntu. Now it appears as though Software Center won't let me download the software I payed for. I'm on 11.04
[01:57] <JokesOnYou77> craigbass: I'm far from an expert, but I do not believe that's it's possible to transfer a client program between X-server instances
[01:58] <I-want-money> gartral: you should not pay for software. you should use the free ones. now pay me. I want some money.
[01:58] <ForSpareParts> thunsucker I have the resolution set to my monitor's native, but on any resolution it's off the screen...
[01:58] <NonConformist> urlin2u, I haven't actually only because I didn't think there were many civilian jobs that could relate to my military experience.
[01:58] <Primedeath> Hello.
[01:59] <Primedeath> Hello, I had to forcefully shutdown my computer and now whenever I try to open the Package Manager I get ..
[01:59] <aeon-ltd> I-want-money: when does the narwahl bacon?
[01:59] <Zwei_> Hey everyone
[01:59] <Primedeath> Could not open file /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin - open (22: Invalid argument)
[01:59] <magic_ninja> hmm is there an easy way to reinstall grub
[01:59] <I-want-money> Primedeath: hi ! give me $5 this channel is commercial
[01:59] <gartral> I-want-money: be quiet before I sick an OP on you
[01:59] <user> thunsucker: I manage to delete all user settings. It startsup asking which is my seach engine. But still the same problem
[01:59] <urlin2u> NonConformist, here is a PDF, I think it might be a option.  http://www.oregon.gov/ODVA/TASKFORCE/reintegration/Minutes_010510.pdf
[01:59] <I-want-money> gartral: come kma
[01:59] <qwaz> What is the rc.local file used for I dont understand
[01:59] <thunsucker> user, learn to google you lazy bum
[02:00] <Primedeath> Is there anyway to purge the dkpg cache?
[02:00] <user> thunsucker: ?
[02:00] <Zwei_> ??
[02:00] <gartral> !ops | I-want-money
[02:00] <I-want-money> lol user he got off. buy the way. do you have any tobacco?
[02:01] <Zwei_> thank god he left
[02:01] <gartral> thank you IdleOne
[02:01] <Zwei_> -hugs IdleOne-
[02:01] <tom_> Hi, I can't get my Belkin F5D8053 v3 to work with ubuntu.  I can't connect to any wep networks.
[02:01] <gartral> hey all, I bought a few peices of software off the Software Center a while back, suffered a hard drive crash, and had too reload Ubuntu. Now..
[02:01] <urlin2u> NonConformist, besides the listed services my friend has gotten computers for people so some cd's might be a viability if you find an organization in your state.
[02:01] <tom_> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 050d:815c Belkin Components F5D8053 N Wireless USB Adapter v3000 [Ralink RT2870]
[02:02] <gartral> tom_: can you connect too WPA/2 networks?
[02:02] <urlin2u> NonConformist, can we pm
 : So whats the problem ?
[02:02] <[THC]AcidRain> is my dvd burner burning at 17000+kb/s normal?
[02:02] <NonConformist> urlin2u, Yes sorry I was reading over the pdf
[02:03] <user> urlin2u: Their are no results on Google relating to my problem
[02:03] <IdleOne> gartral: you should be able to download the software again from software center, if not you will need to contact canonical/vendor to get help.
[02:03] <gartral> Singham: I want too reinstall the software i payed for.. software center is saying i need too buy it again
[02:03] <Primedeath> Hello, I had to forcefully shutdown my computer and now whenever I try to open the Package Manager I get ..Could not open file /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin - open (22: Invalid argument)
[02:04] <[THC]AcidRain> how do i fix the issue in 11.04 where the drive wont open after burn? ive installed 11.04 on at least 5 computers now, and they all seem to have this issue
[02:04] <urlin2u> user, which are what now the chrome/chromium
[02:05] <[THC]AcidRain> it worked fine in 9.04. i dont understand how some things downgrade
[02:05] <Primedeath> Gah.
[02:05] <user> urlin2u: Can you have a remote session with me to see what I'm talking about
[02:05] <Primedeath> I want to fix my Package Manager.
[02:05] <[THC]AcidRain> Primedeath, wht is your issue?
[02:06] <Primedeath> Whenever I try to run it, I get Could not open file /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin - open (22: Invalid argument)
[02:06] <Primedeath> I had to forcibly shut down, due to Chrome locking up the computer.
[02:06] <charlie> hi
[02:06] <[THC]AcidRain> Primedeath, my brother had that same issue. i think its because you tried to update the repositories manually and added a bad argument
[02:07] <Primedeath> No, it was because it was forcibly shut down.  I did not change any repositories.
[02:07] <charlie> hay anyone like satilites
[02:07] <bazhang> charlie, thats not on topic here
[02:07] <IdleOne> Primedeath: try a !fsck
[02:07] <IdleOne> !fsck
[02:09] <SubCool> ok, the ubuntu guys arent helping.. um- after creating a USB Kubuntu with unetbootin, do i HAVE to reboot the system for which i created the USB on?
[02:09] <hellhammer> I'm getting this message when i attempt to install anything "The installation could have failed because of an error in the corresponding software package or it was cancelled in an unfriendly way. You have to repair this before you can install or remove any further software." whats going on? im running ubuntu 10.04
[02:09] <ParkerR> SubCool, umm we are the ubuntu guys
[02:09] <bazhang> SubCool, yes, and set bios to choose that as first boot option
[02:09] <anthony> How do i fix the choppy scrolling in mozilla firefox
[02:10] <IdleOne> SubCool: if you intend on installing to that same system, yes.
[02:10] <anthony> seems like a video card thing
[02:10] <DasEi> hellhammer: try sudo dpkg --configure -a
 : Try installation using terminal
[02:11] <SubCool> bazhang, so that setting is only required on the computer ill be booting into.
[02:11] <DasEi> hellhammer: and an sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade           afterwards
[02:11] <aeon-ltd> anthony: choppy like lag or just a little stiff?
[02:11] <th0r> anthony: turn off compiz, use a lighter desktop environment, turn off some of the resident services
[02:11] <bazhang> SubCool, yes
[02:11] <IdleOne> SubCool: you need to set the system you are booting to boot from USB
[02:11] <hellhammer> its installing  updates i never finished when i ran sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:11] <betanick> how do i install a Ubuntu 11.04 command-line system?
[02:12] <IdleOne> !server
[02:12] <anthony> th0r how do i turn off compiz
[02:12] <anthony> i have an i7 processor
[02:12] <SubCool> IdleOne, ya, i got that. im just making sure im not missing something for this installation process.
[02:12] <anthony> and 8 gigs of ram
[02:12] <DasEi> betanick: use alternate or minimal, don't install gui
[02:12] <anthony> i dont understand why that would cause choppiness
[02:12] <IdleOne> SubCool: a prepared USB installation medium, pc that boots from USB. good to go.
[02:13] <betanick> DasEi: i'm using alternate but it doesn't ask with what i want to install
[02:13] <aeon-ltd> anthony: heh even this late into dev, compiz is still rather buggy, though is it laggy scrolling?
[02:13] <betanick> DasEi: i'm using alternate but it doesn't ask me what i want to install
[02:14] <DasEi> betanick: you decide in firsthand expert install, that let's you have that fine grained choices
[02:14] <betanick> DasEi: ok
[02:14] <betanick> DasEi: F6 -> expert mode?
[02:15] <DasEi> betanick: when the cd booted first screen, there you choose repair broken sys, install, other options is where it's at
[02:16] <betanick> DasEi: ty
[02:21] <anthony> th0r how do i turn off resident services
[02:21] <mukti> I don't have 11.04 yet, but I'm going to upgrade soon. I can go back to GNOME 2 look/functionality by selecting "classic ubuntu" at logon, correct?
[02:21] <th0r> anthony: there used to be a package called bum
[02:21] <bazhang> mukti, correct
[02:22] <marutukku> anonops
[02:22] <Zwei_> Hello everyone
[02:22] <mukti> bazhang: it won't be any different from GNOME2?
[02:23] <anthony> i can't open package manager
[02:23] <bazhang> !classic | mukti
[02:24] <blognewb_> hi.. can i install lubuntu using wubi? (thank you)
[02:24] <DasEi> blognewb_: you can, though I don't like it really
[02:24] <bazhang> blognewb_, installed wubi already?
[02:24] <DasEi> !wubi
[02:24] <blognewb_> bazhang not yet
[02:24] <DasEi> blognewb_: defrag on ntfs often causes trouble
[02:24] <blognewb_> DasEi why do you not like it
[02:24] <Singham> !classic | Singham
[02:24] <blognewb_> oh
[02:25] <mukti> Also, I've only ever installed 32-bit Ubuntu. Are there any major compatibility issues with 64-bit?
[02:25] <DasEi> blognewb_: crashed image and it's recovery, rather use a vm
[02:25] <DasEi> !vm
[02:25] <bazhang> mukti, not really no
[02:25] <jamescarr> my disk became 100% full
[02:25] <blognewb_> essentially my question really is if i could install lubuntu directly since i already have the iso file
[02:25] <jamescarr> is there some place to find out where the space is taken up at?
[02:25] <blognewb_> i dont have a blank cdr i think
[02:26] <DasEi> blognewb_: a usb stick least 1 GB ?
[02:26] <blognewb_> DasEi so are you implying that partitioning is not a good idea?
[02:26] <Singham> bazhang : how to type this "|"     ?
[02:26] <blognewb_> no usb stick
[02:27] <DasEi> blognewb_: vm is more reliable and easier to backup in my eyes
[02:27] <DasEi> and no need for installer medium, too
[02:27] <anthony> where can i find my recently installed programs
[02:27] <anthony> or software
[02:27] <anthony> via terminal
[02:27] <DasEi> anthony: dpkg -l
[02:27] <bazhang> Singham, shift key and \
[02:28] <Singham> bazhang : Thanks dude..Got it now .... :|)
[02:28] <blognewb_> DasEi what is with the ntfs defrag trouble?
[02:28] <blognewb_> what do you mean trouble?
[02:28] <DasEi> anthony: apt-history [install | remove | upgrade]  , one of the three for a history
[02:28] <blognewb_> what issues
[02:30] <DasEi> blognewb_: wuby sets itself as a image-like file, which sometimes gets corrupted so os won't start, and recovery is rather a hassle, often on defragged ntfs-systems
[02:31] <solrize_> hi, i'm on an acer laptop, is there an easy way to turn off the touchpad?  i see a preferences option to turn it off when typing, but my thumbs keep touching it even when i'm not typing... thanks
[02:31] <dustin_> has anyone here used a "desktop" system monitor? I just installed a remix of ubuntu that has one but with my dual monitors it is on the wrong screen
[02:32] <qwaz> What is the rc.local file used for I dont understand
[02:33] <aeon-ltd> dustin_: yes
[02:33] <usr13> qwaz: It's used for anything you want to use it for.
[02:33] <anthony> somebody told me to apt get install something to get flash to work, and other plugins, now its all choppy
[02:33] <aeon-ltd> dustin_: if you know the name of the application that would help
[02:33] <anthony> not sure if its that or the pae i installed
[02:33] <dustin_> aeon-ltd, what do I need to do to change settings for it?
[02:33] <usr13> qwaz: rc.local runs at the end, after all others have run.
[02:33] <aeon-ltd> dustin_: can't help you without the app name
[02:34] <dustin_> aeon-ltd, I am trying to figure out its actual name however it comes with pinguy
[02:34] <usr13> qwaz: it is a quick and easy way to add a command or service into the mix of things.
[02:35] <dustin_> aeon-ltd, on there site they simpy call it "the desktop system monitor"
[02:35] <aeon-ltd> dustin_: this one? http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/9441/desk1001.jpg
[02:35] <dustin_> aeon-ltd, yes that one
[02:35] <aeon-ltd> dustin_: conky
[02:35] <anthony> i think im going to re-install alltogether and start over, i have a 1 tb drive, how should i format it before installing
[02:35] <qwaz> usr13: oh so it;s not used for adding commands or other things to startup?
[02:36] <anthony> this is going to be my main and only OS
[02:36] <Machiavelli> hello
[02:36] <REK_007> how to know which services are enabled on start up ? and how to disable them
[02:36] <dustin_> aeon-ltd, ty, I will look for adjustments for it now I know the real name
[02:36] <usr13> qwaz: yes
[02:36] <aeon-ltd> dustin_: it has a config file, .conkyrc
[02:36] <Mach> hi, I'm new here.
[02:36] <bazhang> !partition > anthony
[02:37] <aeon-ltd> dustin_: it will be hidden, i haven't used it in a while but if it doesn't have a dedicated desktop param, then you can offset x and y positions
[02:38] <qwaz> usr13: Yes you can use it to add commands to startup? Or yes it does not add commands to startup?lol :P
[02:38] <usr13> qwaz: both
[02:39] <qwaz> usr13: ok cool. Just to clarify say I add a line to the rc.local file that says touch /home/user/Desktop lol.txt , would that create a file named lol.txt everytime I log onto the system?
[02:39] <usr13> no
[02:40] <anthony> Can anybody help me out, switching to ubuntu from windows, i only want ubuntu, and i was wanting to reformat my hd accordingly, but i'm not sure what the best setup is
[02:40] <usr13> but  touch /home/user/Desktop/lol.txt   would
[02:40] <anthony> I don't know which should be bigger the ubuntu partiton or the / partition
[02:40] <qwaz> usr13: ok i still have no idea what rc.local does then ><
[02:41] <DasEi> anthony: if you use a seperate home, mostly home will be bigger than root, assuming disk > 30G
[02:41] <coucher> does anybody know if you can have sea
[02:41] <anthony> define using separate home
[02:41] <coucher> sorry, separated layouts per each keyboard you are using?
[02:41] <anthony> dasei, i just want it to where i can update all i want, but keep system files by themselves
[02:41] <anthony> within reason...
[02:41] <coucher> ie. when laptop use this, when external use that...
[02:42] <usr13> qwaz: What is it you do not understand?
[02:42] <bazhang> !home > anthony
[02:42] <DasEi> anthony: It's organized like that in default, and your old win partition can just be made to another automounted partition for storing stuff
[02:42] <DasEi> !home
[02:43] <anthony> dasei, so just keep everything default
[02:43] <qwaz> usr13: I'm trying to figure out a way to add a command like my example previously or a command like /etc/init.d/ssh start to run on startup. I thought rc.local was used for that but I don't understand what that file does.
[02:43] <anthony> dasei i have a lot of partitons, and i'm wanting to just cut it down to 2 if possible, 1 for root 1 for home
[02:43] <DasEi> anthony: yes, which size has the disk /the old win partition ?
[02:43] <anthony> it was 439gb
[02:43] <anthony> just formatted it
[02:43] <\u03b5> hello, what group do I need to be in in order to view all processes with ps or top?
[02:43] <anthony> to ext 4
[02:44] <wonginator1221> Hi guys.  I found that the CPUusage of XOrg is about 40% upon return to my 11.04 box after going into screen saver/monitor off mode.  Both ubuntu and gnome are laggy and sluggish to respond.  Any ideas?
[02:44] <DasEi> anthony: and have you already a seperate home or just used default install (so /home is under root)
[02:45] <anthony> dasei to be honest, im not 100 percent how files work on ubuntu, otherwise id know how to format, im just wanting to make this my Sole OS, but i don't know how the best way to set it up would be,
[02:45] <zykotick9> \u03b5, do you need to be in a special group?  "ps aux"
[02:45] <\u03b5> ps aux only lists my own processes
[02:45] <wonginator1221> s/ubuntu/unity
[02:45] <anthony> trying to get rid of all the bits and pieces on the hd, have just this one on the whole disk, but im not sure how to set that up
[02:45] <DasEi> anthony: run gparted, do a screenshot and put it to imagebin
[02:45] <anthony> okay
[02:45] <anthony> brb
[02:46] <anthony> what button for ss
[02:46] <anthony> ?
[02:46] <zykotick9> \u03b5, are you sure?  certainly shows other users stuff here?
[02:46] <anthony> print screen?
[02:46] <\u03b5> yes, there's no root or daemon, just epsy(me)
[02:47] <zykotick9> \u03b5, is this a standard install, or a VPS?
[02:47] <\u03b5> VPS
[02:47] <zykotick9> ahhh
[02:47] <zykotick9> \u03b5, good luck.
[02:47] <\u03b5> (ovh's)
[02:47] <qwaz> How do I make commands/programs run on startup from the CLI
[02:47] <\u03b5> hmm
[02:48] <\u03b5> I'll try stracing ps on here to see what files it tries to access
[02:48] <xjunior> v
[02:48] <anthony> I've just installed gparted from the synaptic package manager where would i find it, thought it would appear on desktop
[02:49] <xjunior> hey, what's the channel for ubuntu oneric (alpha)
[02:49] <zykotick9> xjunior, #ubuntu+1
[02:49] <xjunior> thanks zykes-
[02:49] <xjunior> zykotick9,
[02:49] <anthony> I've just installed gparted from the synaptic package manager where would i find it, thought it would appear on desktop
[02:50] <qwaz> :anthony you can type sudo gparted into the command line and it will open the program
[02:50] <anthony> nm i found it
[02:50] <bazhang> anthony, you are trying to edit a running system?
[02:50] <anthony> ould not display "/media/81228f90-a41b-4d15-91...stall/desktop/gparted.desktop".
[02:50] <bazhang> !gksudo > qwaz
[02:50] <anthony> just trying to take a screenshot of how my volumes look
[02:50] <anthony> on my disk
[02:51] <anthony> where do i go to post screeny
[02:51] <zykotick9> !paste > anthony
[02:51] <qwaz> ubottu: sry im new with irssi how do I open PMs in irssi?
[02:52] <edwinkcw> I am using ubuntu 10.04LTS and I want to upgrade the vim to 7.3, is there any ppa I can use?
[02:52] <pizda> ?
[02:52] <pizda> ?
[02:52] <pizda> ?
[02:52] <FloodBot1> pizda: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:52] <bazhang> !pl | pizda
[02:52] <bazhang> edwinkcw, check the ppa search page on launchpad
[02:52] <qwaz> How do I make commands/programs run on startup from the CLI
[02:52] <bazhang> !ppa > edwinkcw
[02:53] <anthony> http://imagebin.org/169688
[02:54] <edwinkcw> bazhang: yes, I checked that, but there are only 7.2.130
[02:55] <zykotick9> qwaz, check out rc.local usage
[02:55] <anthony> Did u guys see the link?
[02:55] <anthony> http://imagebin.org/169688
[02:55] <anthony> that is how my disk is formatted
[02:55] <anthony> http://imagebin.org/169688
[02:55] <qwaz> zykotick9: Ah ok so rc.local does run program on startup!?
[02:56] <zykotick9> qwaz, yes, on bootup actually - prior to login
[02:57] <qwaz> zykotick9:  hmm thats even better. So no matter who logs in the program I say to run for example /etc/init.d/ssh start will run for any user
[02:57] <kipt> Does anyone have any experience w/ the Equinox GTK engine?
[02:58] <zykotick9> qwaz, ssh server should automatically be running on boot after installation?
[02:59] <qwaz> zykotick9: yeah it does i'm just using it as an example.
[02:59] <blsh0p> what are some cool things for begginers to do on UBUNTU?
[02:59] <REK_007> anyone can help me install deluge 1.3.1 from the source
[02:59] <KinglyCitrus> kipt: check your PM
[02:59] <kipt> oh
[02:59] <zykotick9> qwaz, gotcha ;)
[02:59] <soreau> blsh0p: Depends on what's cool to you
[02:59] <qwaz> zykotick9:  but eh what I said was right though right? It will run for no matter what user logs on if I put it in rc.local?
[03:00] <blsh0p> for instance, is there a way i can add a new toolbar to the desktop?
[03:00] <zykotick9> qwaz, well, what is it that you are running?  a service should yes.
[03:00] <blsh0p> or have something to view applications better than the applications option
[03:00] <blsh0p> 11.04
[03:00] <wildbat> !ops | pizda
[03:01] <blsh0p> pizda, make up your mind, lol
[03:01] <wildbat> ban petrus.pl may be :>
[03:01] <anthony> http://imagebin.org/169688
[03:01] <blsh0p> he banned
[03:01] <qwaz> zykotick9:  anything, say I want to put in a command like touch /etc/user/desktop/ lol.txt   or maybe I want to start netcat to listen on a port
[03:01] <soreau> blsh0p: There are many animated window switchers and ways to view windows with compiz
[03:02] <Danny> pizda means cunt in romanian
[03:02] <soreau> blsh0p: There is also cairo-dock, if you wanted a mac-style dock
[03:02] <Danny> ...
[03:02] <blsh0p> dany no way! how do u pronounce
[03:02] <zykotick9> qwaz, ummm, i'm not sure "just anything" will work.  Good luck man, but research/test/try rc.local.
[03:02] <soreau> ! who | blsh0p
[03:03] <Danny> the same way is written
[03:03] <jhjhjh> :)
[03:03] <Danny> :)
[03:03] <blsh0p> is there a website were i can learn a bunch of tips on using ubuntu? like tons of features and things i should know about? i couldnt find anything of use on the ubuntu website
[03:03] <jrib> blsh0p: help.ubuntu.com ?
[03:03] <qwaz> zykotick9:  one more question. Im seeing an rc.local in my etc directory and i'm seeing one in my init.d directory? Whats up with that?
[03:03] <soreau> jrib: I think it's the same guy
[03:04] <Danny> wtf?!?
[03:04] <jrib> ugh
[03:04] <blsh0p> jrib, no something where it gives me tips and shows me features
[03:04] <blsh0p> the help page is kind of more for troubleshooting
[03:04] <Danny> good job jirib
[03:04] <Danny> why jirib?
[03:05] <zykotick9> qwaz, sorry, i'm not sure.  I'd try the /etc one myself.
[03:05] <qwaz> zykotick9: hmm im pretty confused because of it now lol. thanks for all the help man!
[03:06] <lowbudgetlaptops> any  lpic1  administrators
[03:06] <jrib> blsh0p: help.ubuntu.com educates about many aspects of ubuntu
[03:07] <dFshadow> how long should it take to install preware on my touchpad?
[03:07] <dFshadow> i already waited 15 minutes once and had to end task and try again
[03:07] <dFshadow> been waiting another 15 minutes
[03:08] <Tech-1> maybe you burned it 2 fast
[03:09] <zykotick9> dFshadow, how is Preware an ubuntu issue?
[03:09] <dFshadow> it's the first step to installing ubuntu on my touchpad
[03:09] <dFshadow> http://liliputing.com/2011/08/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-an-hp-touchpad.html
[03:10] <zykotick9> dFshadow, interesting.  Best of luck.
[03:11] <wildbat> LOL ! some one don't wanna give up XD
[03:11] <wildbat> finally :)
[03:12] <flammifer> Hi, I'm somewhat new to Linux and just installed Xchat to get some help here, so please be patient if I don't know my way around how this community works! I have a laptop with a broken CD drive on which I have been trying to install Ubuntu for my friend who doesn't have any computer, but for some reason it won't boot from the bootable USB stick that I made even though I set the boot options that way in BIOS. I have been se
[03:12] <flammifer> arching all of the forums and tutorials looking for some way to install Ubuntu without a CD or USB stick, but most of the non-CD methods inevitably come to a step further down where it says "now, insert your install CD...!" So does anyone know how to install Ubuntu in this situation? I currently have Windows XP on the system, but it is such an old install and bogged down with residual background tasks and files all over th
[03:12] <flammifer> e place from previously "uninstalled" programs that I just want to give a clean start before passing on the computer. Can anyone help?
[03:13] <bazhang> !install | flammifer please have a read
[03:14] <urlin2u> dFshadow, here a couple of other links,  http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:Preware      http://preware.org/#/index/
[03:14] <dFshadow> thanks! that gives me their irc
[03:14] <dFshadow> very helpful
[03:14] <soreau> ! usb | flammifer
[03:15] <soreau> flammifer: There are several ways to create a bootable usb stick. It's probably your best bet to try and get it working
[03:16]  * soreau eyes fgfgfg suspiciously
[03:17] <Mach> ubuntu sucks balls.
[03:17] <Mach> and you all know it
[03:17] <jrib> !ot | Mach
[03:17] <Mach> but hey, nothing to be ashamed of
[03:17] <Mach> lol, just kidding.
[03:18] <anth0ny> I somehow broke my main Ubuntu account.  I was messing around with the Workspace Switcher, seeing how many workspaces I could add.  Long story short, after adding 20 workspaces I think I broke Compiz. The Workspace Switcher reverted back to 1x4 and looks different (also, different preferences).  Also, the AWN colors are different, and when editing the theme I see the message that I must "enable desktop effects (compositor)" before making cha
[03:18] <anth0ny> nges.  Worst thing: my network connection is all messed up, can't connect to wifi (switched to guest account now).  Any ideas of how to fix this?  A reset does nothing.
[03:19] <[THC]AcidRain> are there any linux website builders? like dreamweaver?
[03:20] <bazhang> !html > [THC]AcidRain
[03:20] <goer> Can someone PLS help me with setting up projector? I hv tried everything. It used to work on my old computer ok.
[03:21] <soreau> goer: What have you tried so far that isn't working?
[03:21] <centHOGG> like dw... negative
[03:22] <goer> My monitor is 1920x1080 and Epson prjector is 800x600. I only get half the screen with the epson
[03:23] <FloodBot1> fgfgfg: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:23] <soreau> goer: Do you have compiz enabled?
[03:24] <[THC]AcidRain> bazhang, thx for the info
[03:25] <zuruzuru> So I seem to be having a problem with apt-get update.
[03:25] <zuruzuru> I keep getting this message: W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/jp.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_universe_binary-amd64_Packages Hash Sum mismatch
[03:25] <zuruzuru> I've tried apt-get clean, but that's not doing the trick
[03:25] <zuruzuru> Any suggestions?
[03:25] <goer> soreau: metacity makes no difference
[03:26] <bsmith093> how do i make a launcher for a terminal shell script
[03:26] <soreau> goer: What is the output of 'glxinfo|grep -i max_texture_size'?
[03:27] <goer> soreau: I typed in glxinfo|grep -i max_texture_size but nothing happened
[03:27] <goer> :(
[03:27] <soreau> goer: You have to install mesa-utils to get glxinfo..
[03:28] <soreau> !info mesa-utils
[03:28] <soreau> goer: What graphics card/driver are you using?
[03:30] <[THC]AcidRain> eh... kompozer looks hard. id rather use notepad
[03:30] <Piobaire> some one explain to me why ubuntu is better than fedora?
[03:30] <Piobaire> not being sarcastic<< :)
[03:30] <bazhang> Piobaire, not on topic here
[03:30] <bazhang> Piobaire, #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[03:31] <Piobaire> okie ;) sry
[03:31] <goer> soreau: Geforce 315/PCI/SSE2
[03:32] <soreau> goer: What is the output of 'grep -i driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep -i nvidia' ?
[03:32] <soreau> goer: or actually, 'grep nvidia /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[03:34] <goer> grep -i driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep -i nvidia
[03:34] <goer> soreau: http://pastebin.com/KecvQL3g
[03:34] <flammifer> Soreau, my USB stick is already bootable. I know this because I installed Ubuntu on a different computer using the same USB stick earlier that same day. So the problem with the USB booting seems to be that my old laptop just isn't booting from it for some reason.
[03:36] <zuruzuru> Solved my problem, looks likes there's an error on the JP natty universe sources.
[03:39] <boss> hello
[03:39] <boss> hello
[03:39] <anth0ny> Can anyone assist me?  I think I royally fucked up my Compiz settings, looking for some help as how to corect it
[03:39] <bazhang> anth0ny, no cursing here please
[03:39] <anth0ny> bazhang, ym apologies
[03:39] <Guest70130> ok i am a gous
[03:39] <goer> Yeah Anthony!!! Aplogise!
[03:39] <Guest70130> t
[03:40] <Guest70130> guest
[03:40] <Cobarde> exit
[03:40] <anth0ny> anyways, anyone know how to reset Compiz settings?
[03:40] <Cobarde> \quit
[03:40] <JokesOnYou77> flammifer: Your laptop won't boot your Ubuntu USB, but the BIOS has the opton to boot from USB?
[03:40] <Guest70130> i need help
[03:40] <Guest70130> SOS
[03:41] <Guest70130> HELP
[03:41] <Guest70130> in pidgin i cant (video call)
[03:42] <Mach> use skype
[03:42] <Guest70130> me
[03:42] <gmachine_24> Running 11.04 and Win7 on dual boot Compaq laptop. Everything is fine except I cannot get the wifi working on Ubuntu. The wired connection works fine. The wifi works fine on Win7. I get "06:00.0 Network controller: roadcom Corporation bcm4311 801.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)" without the quotes
[03:42] <Mach> Guest70130, use skype
[03:42] <ForSpareParts> Does anyone know of an app that lets you resize the desktop WITHOUT changing the display resolution?
[03:43] <Guest70130> skype is diened in my contry
[03:43] <Mach> what country is that?
[03:43] <Guest70130> syria
[03:43] <Mach> wow
[03:43] <ForSpareParts> I know I could use xorg.conf, but I'm still kinda confused about how to use it.
[03:43] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/9217/audo-video-with-pidgin Guest70130
[03:43] <Guest70130> no no skype he is diened
[03:44] <JokesOnYou77> Guest70130: Google video chat also blocked?
[03:44] <Guest70130> from him
[03:44] <bazhang> Guest70130, then check my link
[03:44] <Mach> Guest70130, try downloading UVC driver
[03:45] <rhin0> where do I put an NFS mount command -- I have a mount command with complicated options don't want ot suse autofs or anything just wnat to issue the mount command and it to be in effect
[03:45] <gmachine_24> what is the link to pastebin please?
[03:45] <Guest70130> i remamper some thing in ubuntu help center i found some thing about VLC but i dont aderstute
[03:45] <propman_> gmachine_24:  might want to check out the following  http://computerandu.wordpress.com/2011/05/04/how-to-solve-no-wireless-networks-in-ubuntu-11-04/
[03:45] <Guest70130> it
[03:45] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo  rhin0
[03:46] <bazhang> gmachine_24, paste.ubuntu.com
[03:46] <Real0pty> .
[03:46] <gmachine_24> propman, OK, I'll do that now.
[03:46] <gmachine_24> bazhang, thanks.
[03:46] <goer> soreau: still with us?
[03:46] <rhin0> ok bazhang
[03:46] <bazhang> Guest70130, did you check the link I sent you?
[03:47] <Guest70130> now
[03:47] <da13374> there's this fantastic program "proxifier" for windows that hooks into the os at a very low level, allowing me to send ALL my network traffic through a socks5 proxy of my choice, without screwing with per-application proxy settings - anyone know of a linux equivalent?
[03:47] <Guest70130> i am there
 yes, so the BIOS option isn't doing what it says
[03:48] <JokesOnYou77> flammifer: Can you tell me exactly what BIOS option you changed?
[03:48] <blognewb_> hi
[03:49] <betanick> is it normal to just a a blinking cursor?
[03:49] <betanick> have*
[03:49] <bazhang> http://ask.metafilter.com/121833/Global-Proxy-in-Ubuntu-with-SOCKS-and-ssh da13374
[03:51] <CEK> hello
[03:51] <tomlikestorock> I just upgraded to 10.10, and I can't get access to any drives (like my nook) that I plug into my usb ports. "Permissions Denied". They mount, I can see the files, but I can't write. Is this common?
[03:51] <JokesOnYou77> betanick: Sounds like one of the following: boot failure of some kind; you put a terminal in full screen and didn't realize it; or you switched to a virtual terminal that has no prompt for some reason
[03:51] <goer> soreau: are you still with us pls?
[03:52] <CEK> How do you configure keyboard layout using gconf-tools-2 or by scripting?
[03:52] <tomlikestorock> oh, I mean 11.04
[03:52] <tomlikestorock> from 10.10
[03:53] <ForSpareParts> hey, does anybody know of an app that'll let you adjust screen size without directly manipulating xorg.conf?
[03:53] <ForSpareParts> Scaled size, that is, not resolution.
[03:53] <ForSpareParts> I ask because I have an old TV, and my image is falling off the sides.
[03:53] <ForSpareParts> And I don't have a remote for the damned thing.
[03:54] <betanick> JokesOnYou77: i'm able too ssh
[03:55] <JokesOnYou77> betanick: Into the system from another computer?
[03:55] <betanick> JokesOnYou77: ya
[03:57] <JokesOnYou77> betanick: But on the computer in question you boot straight to a screen with just a blinking cursor?  Is there a login, gdm?
[03:57] <betanick> JokesOnYou77: just a blinking cursor no login
[03:58] <JokesOnYou77> betanick: GRUB?
[03:58] <betanick> JokesOnYou77: yes
[03:58] <Bry8Star> Can someone please recommend me few more articles related to updatin BIND/named.conf & related files by using Shell Script ? like this : http://bash.cyberciti.biz/domain/create-bind9-domain-zone-configuration-file/ ... i want to update records inside the "named.conf" when my dynamic IP changes , and place that dynamic IP inside the named.conf or related zone/host files ... i want to use the 'checkip' feature to get my IP and place inside zon
[03:58] <Bry8Star> e/host records
[03:59] <betanick> JokesOnYou77: i ran the alternate installer in expert mode
[03:59] <JokesOnYou77> betanick: Can you switch to a virtual terminal from the blinkie?
[03:59] <betanick> JokesOnYou77: how?
[04:00] <JokesOnYou77> betanick: Press: Ctrl+Alt+F2 (with out the "+")
[04:01] <betanick> JokesOnYou77: that works
[04:01] <JokesOnYou77> betanick: have you done a successful install using the alternate installer before? And this was supposed to install a command line system, right?
[04:01] <JokesOnYou77> betanick: got you a prompt?
[04:02] <betanick> JokesOnYou77: ya i got one after Ctrl+Alt+F2
 I just changed the boot order. I made HDD first (and also experimented making "FDD" first, since I don't know what that is). It also has a sub-option to set the HDD order, and I set PC-car first (which I'm assuming means a USB stick), and internal HDD second. I also put them the other way around, and everytime it just starts right up in XP without getting to the USB stick installer. The other boot options ar
[04:02] <flammifer> e CD-ROM (which my CD-ROM drive is broken) or network
[04:03] <betanick> JokesOnYou77: i was attempting to do a command line install system and this is my first attempt
[04:03] <edbian> flammifer: fdd = floppy disk drivve
[04:03] <flammifer> Oh, that makes sense
[04:03] <Guest70130> WHEN I CONNECT FROM WIN7 TO UBUNTU BY TEAMVIWER IT IS UNCONNECT AND LOGOUT IN UBUNTU
[04:03] <flammifer> I don't have a floppy drive anyway
[04:03] <flammifer> It's a laptop
[04:05] <betanick> JokesOnYou77: i think i'm just going to install ubuntu server :)
[04:05] <JokesOnYou77> flammifer: Ok, on the BIOS screen there are usually 2 buttons you can hit, one for entering the BIOS setup, and the other is for a boot menu.  Reboot and instead of going into BIOS go into the boot menu and see if your USB is there
[04:05] <chaospsychex> how do i automatically load a command when starting xchat, such as '/msg nickserv identify ***' ?
[04:06] <ouyes> what dpi is suitable for a particular screen?
[04:06] <JokesOnYou77> betanick: Go for it.  I've done a couple command line installs just to learn how, it can get really tricky tho.  My advise (having messed up quite a few times now) is to do it in a VM first
[04:06] <Guest70130> WHEN I CONNECT FROM WIN7 TO UBUNTU BY TEAMVIWER IT IS UNCONNECT AND LOGOUT IN UBUNTU
[04:07] <betanick> JokesOnYou77: thanks
[04:07] <__serial> Nice little ubuntu update script i wrote: wget http://updateubuntu.webs.com/Ubuntu.py && chmod a+x Ubuntu.py && ./Ubuntu.py
[04:07] <NonConformist> Anybody have any other update options without cd or usb?
 Actually, it never gets to the BIOS splash screen when I start up. The screen goes from black right into the Windows startup icon. The only way I can get in is by hitting all different keys at once so it has an error, and the error message says "press F1 to enter setup." This is an old DOS-style screen with several options, and on the right side of the page is the boot order section. I'm not sure how to get
[04:08] <flammifer> into a special menu just for the boot order though.
 This is a Toshiba Satellite laptop that I bought in 2004, so it's a little old.
[04:10] <JokesOnYou77> flammifer: Try googleing your model: Toshiba {model} boot menu
[04:11] <Mach> NonConformist, update?
[04:11] <NonConformist> oops sorry i meant install options lol
[04:14] <Mach> NonConformist, you cannot install from CD or USB? what version do you have?
[04:14] <NonConformist> Mach, it's not that I can't I don't have the means so I'm looking for other ways to install. I've tried 11.04 and 10.04
[04:15] <konam> hi guys
[04:15] <Mach> but what version of ubuntu are u runing now?
[04:16] <Mach> NonConformist, Alt+F2, type in "update-manager -d"
[04:16] <konam> i have this bug on ubuntu 10.04 where the title bar doesn't update the title in a timely manner. i have to click it in order for it to refresh the title of the respective window. i found it initially on firefox because normally i'm always changing tabs, closing them, etc. but it also appeared on gedit...
[04:17] <konam> some people seem to have a similar ocurrence on 11.04 on the unity window decorator or something
[04:18] <Guest70130> BAYE GISE SEE YOU LATER
[04:18] <Guest70130> GOOD BAYE
[04:18] <NonConformist> Mach, I'm not running ubuntu at all right now.
[04:19] <Mach> NonConformist, sorry to say that I don't have any clue then.
[04:20] <JokesOnYou77> flammifer: Reboot and the second it turns off just keep hitting F12, that usually works...
[04:31] <CEK> how to configure keyboard layout by shell script?
[04:32] <theadmin> CEK: "setxkbmap us" for USA English, other layouts available too
[04:33] <CEK> theadmin: thanks
[04:34] <theadmin> CEK: That works only for X though, for TTYs look into the "loadkeys" command
[04:35] <CEK> theadmin: im using natty livecd.. and every time have to set it up. kind anooying.
[04:35] <theadmin> CEK: Huh. LiveCDs do not save changes, so what do you expect?
[04:36] <CEK> theadmin: i know it. Im looking for making a shell script to run on startup for preset my preferences
[04:37] <theadmin> CEK: I see.
[04:37] <theadmin> CEK: Or, you could just copy all the hidden folders in your home directory after configuring everything somewhere ;)
[04:37] <theadmin> CEK: And files
[04:37] <CEK> theadmin: my hope is to configure all by this script.. key layout. sound card.. volume..
[04:38] <CEK> theadmin: hows that? are there any tutorial? I dont know much on linux
[04:39] <theadmin> CEK: Hm... I don't think there is any tutorial on "how to do everything with a shellscript" xD
[04:39] <CEK> theadmin: I meant that. I was talking about copying hidden folder
[04:39] <DasEi> CEK: why not use a persistant usb install ?
[04:39] <theadmin> CEK: Oh, that? That's quite simple, uh... Just find them and copy them
[04:40] <theadmin> CEK: In Nautilus (ubuntu's default file browser), it can be done by hitting Ctrl+H to show hidden files. If you're using Kubuntu, it's Alt+., if you're using Xubuntu it's Ctrl+H as well
[04:40] <DasEi> CEK: also you can do custom-cd's
[04:40] <DasEi> !custom
[04:40] <betanick> DasEi: using Universal-USB-Installer-1.8.6.2?
[04:41] <zykotick9> theadmin, me too!  for that "how to do everything with a shellscript" ;)
[04:41] <DasEi> betanick: rather unetbootin or pendrivelinux for storage
[04:41] <CEK> DasEi: i wanna experience living with just livecd, without persistence
[04:41] <DasEi> !remaster | CEK
[04:41] <CEK> theadmin: ill try that! tks
[04:43] <CEK> ubottu: already read those. thks
[04:43] <CEK> -_____-
[04:43] <DasEi> CEK: ubott.. is the chan's ro-bot
[04:44] <CEK> too late hahaha
[04:44] <DasEi> !brain :)
[04:44] <DasEi> !brain
[04:44] <bundai> hi
[04:45] <codeperl> hello everyone. how r u?
[04:45] <theadmin> Hello, bundai
[04:45] <theadmin> codeperl: That's offtopic here.
[04:45] <codeperl> ok
[04:45] <bundai> how mount network driver which contain password
[04:45] <theadmin> !ot | codeperl
[04:45]  * betanick is starting to like ubuntu :)
[04:45] <centHOGG> ubuntu police
[04:46] <bundai> fstab parameters
[04:46] <DasEi> bundai: kinda encryption ?
[04:46] <theadmin> bundai: Depends on the type of the drive.
[04:46] <bundai> smb://hyper;user@192.168.1.12/data/	/opt/source	smbfs nobody	0  0 is this correct theadmin
[04:47] <theadmin> bundai: I don't think so.
[04:47] <bundai> theadmin actally the share drive is in win2003 server while connecting to that driver from ubuntu its asking passowrd even i gave correct
[04:48] <bundai> theadmin may be this one //192.168.1.12/data/tools	/opt/source	smbfs nobody	0  0
[04:48] <theadmin> bundai: //server/share /mountpoint smbfs username=yourname,password=yourpassword 0 0
[04:48] <somsip> bundai: dunno if overall approach is right, but should be : not ; between user and pass for basic auth
 I read a bunch of things about my computers BIOS, and one person who was having the same problem commented that they read in several places that this model has a "legacy BIOS" that does not support booting from a flash drive, in which case I am back to my original question which is: how can I install Ubuntu without a flash drive or CD drive?
[04:50] <codeperl> i 've some problem with easy install. when i type "sudo easy_install cctrl" it says "easy_install command not found". so i think easy_install does not installed till now and type "sudo apt-get install python-setuptools". In this command, after running some process it turns to a failure. message is: "The following packages have unmet dependencies: python-setuptools : Depends: python-pkg-resources (= 0.6.14-5ubuntu1) but 0.6.15-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[04:50] <codeperl> . E: Broken packages". What i should do now. I am a beginner on ubuntu 11.04. so, please help me.
[04:51] <bundai> theadmin no its not its working but its ask password even i gave correct
[04:51] <JokesOnYou77> flammifer: And there's no CD drive?
[04:51] <bundai> theadmin let me ask you user mean that windows user or ubuntu user?
[04:52] <theadmin> bundai: Um, it's the username of the samba share... Guess the windows user
[04:52] <andrewh192> hey, so, lets say that i have put ubuntu on next to windows
[04:52] <andrewh192> and the space that i allotted to ubuntu was very small, and wanted to change the size of the allotted space on the hard drive
[04:52] <andrewh192> can i do that
[04:52] <andrewh192> and how is that done
[04:53] <theadmin> andrewh192: LiveCD with gparted
[04:53] <codeperl> can anyone help me, please for the last question of mine?
[04:54] <andrewh192> as a part of the Ubuntu Customization Kit
[04:54] <andrewh192> Live Magic
[04:54] <bundai> theadmin no its not working while from windows we are giving u/p user:user it fine
[04:54] <io_error> Hello. I inherited an Ubuntu 9.04 server, which I want to upgrade to 10.04 LTS. When I run sudo do-release-upgradeAn upgrade from 'jaunty' to 'lucid' is not supported with this tool."
[04:55] <theadmin> io_error: You can't do that
[04:55] <theadmin> !karmic
[04:55] <theadmin> Oh wait
[04:55] <io_error> theadmin: I gathered as much from the error message.
[04:55] <theadmin> !jaunty
[04:55] <io_error> theadmin: That is NOT helpful.
[04:55] <io_error> !upgrade
[04:55] <theadmin> io_error: Jaunty is EOL... And, you can only upgrade to the next release, meaning Karmic, i.e. 9.10
[04:56] <theadmin> io_error: From THERE, you can upgrade to 10.04
[04:56] <io_error> theadmin: And how do I upgrade to 9.10, so I can then upgrade to 10.04?
[04:56] <zykotick9> io_error, fresh installing 10.04LTS is probably easier
[04:56] <io_error> zykotick9: I'm in New Hampshire. The server is in Atlanta. Not happening.
[04:56] <theadmin> zykotick9: It's a server, often meaning there's no physical access
[04:57] <theadmin> io_error: Try editing /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades setting "Prompt=normal"
[04:58] <io_error> theadmin: It was already on Prompt=normal. And it decided it wanted to go directly from jaunty to lucid, with that error message I started with.
[04:58] <theadmin> io_error: Weird... :/ Well this tool has no freaking manpage so I can't really know the syntax for specifying what to upgrade to
[04:59] <theadmin> Oh wait
[04:59] <bundai> theadmin no its not working while from windows we are giving u/p user:user it fine
[04:59] <theadmin> There is no such syntax :/ I don't think I can help
[04:59] <theadmin> bundai: I can't help any further.
[05:00] <bundai> theadmin ok !!noproblem
[05:00] <io_error> theadmin: LOL, when I have to resort to IRC for a question, run like hell :)
[05:00] <theadmin> io_error: lol :D
[05:00] <io_error> Oh, it's a python script. Let's hack it.
[05:01] <theadmin> io_error: Another reason why a rolling release distro for a server is a better idea tho
[05:01] <bundai> is there anyone to help to mount network driver which contain password ?
[05:01] <io_error> theadmin: I'm just NOT going there :P
[05:01] <theadmin> Oh, Python script... That can't be too hard :D
[05:02] <theadmin> io_error: I know, just saying
[05:03] <io_error> theadmin: Most of my other boxen are CentOS :P
[05:04] <theadmin> io_error: Um... ew. Sorry but anything RPM-based freaks me out
[05:05] <io_error> theadmin: heh, I must be used to it. I've been using red hat since it was in somebody's garage.
[05:05] <IdleOne> !ot
[05:06] <bundai>  is there anyone to help to mount network driver which contain password ?
[05:06] <BlackFlag> Good evening! I have a notebook with Video Card from SIS 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter, and I would like to know how to reduce the bright of the screen
[05:07] <urlin2u> BlackFlag, try the fn key and the arrow keys
 The CD drive stopped working a few years ago
[05:09] <chaospsychex> i want to configure my desktop beyond gnome
[05:09] <chaospsychex> what window manager does gnome use?
 it doesn't work
[05:09] <theadmin> chaospsychex: Nautilus and Compiz, depending on your setup
[05:10] <zykotick9> chaospsychex, metacity or compiz
[05:10] <theadmin> s/nautilus/metacity/g; #oops
[05:10] <bundai> blackflag recently i had simlar problem but low brightness you need to load all drivers related the notebook
[05:11] <JokesOnYou77> flammifer: Without some way to access the hard drive without the OS there isn't any way to initialize an installation environment.  The only other thing I can think of is wither Wubi, or taking out the hard drive and attaching it to another computer to do the installation. Did you try hitting F12 or U as it boots?
[05:11] <grendal-prime> ok werid stuff. goings on.  I got a drive..was the primary drive..i put in a new drive in this machine and installed 64 bit.  Now i stuck first drive into second sata socket and want to mount second drive.
[05:11] <urlin2u> BlackFlag, look in power management preferences, there is a slider there
[05:12] <urlin2u> BlackFlag, mine doesn't work on my netbook when plugged into a monitor otherwise it does
[05:12] <grendal-prime> to get my stuff off of it.  machine will mount primary drive sdb1 and...i only seem my kernels.  I cant mount sdb5 says its alread mounted?
[05:14] <urlin2u> grendal-prime, does it show in the left panel of home?
[05:14] <DasEi> grendal-prime: enter mount in trml to see where sdb5 is mounted
[05:15] <BlackFlag> urlin2u, the slider doesn't appear in the power management, i'm using Ubuntu 11.04. In my Debian appear this slider, but doesn't work
[05:15] <DasEi> grendal-prime: then use rsync to copy
[05:15] <JZApples> I am trying to configure my Turtle Beach Ear Force HPA 2 microphone with Ubuntu 11.04 and having no luck.  Suggestions?
[05:16] <grendal-prime> thats the thing mount does not show sdb5 being mounted
[05:16] <grendal-prime> this is werid
[05:16] <grendal-prime> grrrr
[05:16] <DasEi> grendal-prime: if you want non root access, might have to chown the mountdir
[05:16] <DasEi> grendal-prime: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[05:16] <urlin2u> BlackFlag, you don't see this?  http://imagebin.org/169701
[05:16] <sunit> I am getting Exception in thread "main" java.awt.HeadlessException when trying to run jasper iReport. please see url http://dpaste.com/602495/
[05:16] <DasEi> grendal-prime: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[05:17] <bambanx> wassup guys
[05:17] <DasEi> !support > bambanx
[05:17] <grendal-prime> here is what i get...
[05:17] <grendal-prime> mount: /dev/sdb5 already mounted or /mnt/drive2 busy
[05:18] <DasEi> grendal-prime: cd /mnt/sdb5 && ls
[05:18] <DasEi> files there ?
[05:18] <devish> i see M$ has made a driver two connect to 2 networks at once
[05:18] <devish> how can this be done in ubuntu
[05:18] <bambanx> ubottu send again pls
[05:18] <bambanx> lol
[05:18] <BlackFlag> urlin2u, no, i don't, but in Debian I see, but doesn't work
[05:18] <grendal-prime> DasEi, no it shows nothing
[05:18] <DasEi> devish: configure two nics in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:19] <JZApples> I am trying to configure my Turtle Beach Ear Force HPA 2 microphone with Ubuntu 11.04 and having no luck.  Suggestions?
[05:19] <DasEi> !support > bambanx
[05:19] <bambanx> anyone here is using photoshop in wine?
[05:19] <grendal-prime> gimp
[05:19] <devish> changing conf here will allow my computer to connect to 2 wi-fi at once?
[05:19] <grendal-prime> embrace it
[05:19] <centHOGG> plz
[05:20] <urlin2u> BlackFlag, you keep mentioning Debian why?  The picture I posted is from 11.04, the unity desktop, but the classic is the same.
[05:20] <grendal-prime> ya DasEi i dont understand...i mean im sure it created this drive with lvm sooo im wondering if that is the issue
[05:20] <devish> DasEi: changing conf here will allow my computer to connect to 2 wi-fi at once?
[05:20] <DasEi> devish: same time on one nic ? I doubt so
[05:20] <urlin2u> BlackFlag, what desktop are you using?
[05:20] <theadmin> devish: I don't think that's possible, same network interface can only have one ip at a time
[05:21] <devish> DasEi: thats what i am loking for
[05:21] <DasEi> devish: link of the ms thingy ?
[05:21] <grendal-prime> theadmin, ? could alias it..but the wifi part seems unlikely
[05:21] <devish> but when i google i find people doing it
[05:21] <codeperl> i am trying to install setuptools by command "sudo apt-get install python-setuptools". but it shows a message like, "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:21] <codeperl>  python-setuptools : Depends: python-pkg-resources (= 0.6.14-5ubuntu1) but 0.6.15-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[05:21] <codeperl> E: Broken packages
[05:21] <codeperl> ".
[05:21] <codeperl> how to solve can anyone please help
[05:21] <codeperl> ?
[05:21] <zykotick9> theadmin, you've never used jails in FreeBSD - many IPs for one nic ;) </OT>
[05:22] <theadmin> zykotick9: s/jails in//;
[05:22] <devish> DasEi: see herehttp://research.microsoft.com/en-us/downloads/994abd5f-53d1-4dba-a9d8-8ba1dcccead7/
[05:22] <bin547> hello
[05:22] <devish> DasEi: http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/downloads/994abd5f-53d1-4dba-a9d8-8ba1dcccead7/
[05:23] <grendal-prime> zykotick9, ya or simply aliasing the nic out...or..well crap there are other ways of doing that as well...but the wifi part one radio connecting to two base sattions at one time...it just seems unlikely
[05:23] <DasEi> devish: yes, but it's switching, too
[05:23] <bundai> is there rsync savvy?
[05:23] <grendal-prime> Im no wifi expert..i just play one on tv.
[05:23] <BlackFlag> I mentionate Debian, because I Installed to test it, and when I pull the power cable in it, reduces the bright, but i want to reduce more than it does, and I want to do it in any Distro
[05:23] <DasEi> bundai: man rsync ?
[05:23] <codeperl> sorry to say. but the ubuntu forum is not so helpful i think. i am asking this question perhaps from lat 45 mins. but no help
[05:23] <codeperl> :)
[05:23] <zykotick9> grendal-prime, oh i don't think it's likely with wireless.  Just addressing the statement 1 IP per Nic
[05:23] <codeperl> :(
[05:24] <bundai> dasei i need help reg rsync
[05:24] <BlackFlag> urlin2u,I mentionate Debian, because I Installed to test it, and when I pull the power cable in it, reduces the bright, but i want to reduce more than it does, and I want to do it in any Distro
[05:24] <theadmin> codeperl: Well, quite often nobody knows the answer
[05:24] <grendal-prime> ya  jesus i had a production server with 20 aliased ips on it.
[05:24] <codeperl> theadmin:strange!!!!
[05:24] <DasEi> bundai: reg rsync I don't understand
[05:24] <grendal-prime> and ..yes..i was praying.
[05:24] <urlin2u> BlackFlag, what OS are we dealing with right now and what desktop?
[05:24] <codeperl> nothing to say.
[05:24] <devish> DasEi: so mean to say that this thing is H/W dependent and nothing can be done from software end
[05:24] <rypervenche> codeperl: Do you have any PPAs installed?
[05:25] <codeperl> i am a very beginner
 Yes, I tried all different keys to get into BIOS settings. I tried F1-F12, del, esc, bksp, tab, etc. Usually pressing a bunch of keys will eventually pause the startup before starting to load up windows, and then I can press "enter," which brings up a black screen that just says "Press F1 to enter setup," which takes me into the BIOS settings, but the problem is that the BIOS settings aren't working. Changin
[05:25] <flammifer> g the boot order doesn't do anything; it still just loads up Windows off of the hard drive. I tried using Wubi a bunch of times, but it always gets right to the end of the installation, and then gives an error message saying something like "error: could not copy files"
[05:25] <codeperl> so, i don't know about ppa
[05:25] <grendal-prime> and i think your english may need some work as well codeperl
[05:25] <devish> zykotick9: can it be done
[05:25] <DasEi> devish: I just read the description and it says it switches or jumps between networks, that can be done by simple script with a loop in ubuntu, too
[05:26] <BlackFlag> urlin2u, now I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 and my PC are a notebook... can I send in private the lshw output to you?
[05:26] <zykotick9> devish, for wireless I don't know
[05:26] <grendal-prime> Not that i dislike that...but...expect some lag on responce wile we figure out exactly what yor asking
[05:26] <codeperl> ok. grendal-prime. but i don't wanna  hurt anyone.
[05:26] <rypervenche> grendal-prime: That wasn't really necessary, the English comment.
[05:26] <codeperl> is it rough, actually?
[05:26] <zykotick9> devish, for wireless it's more then just an IP issue though
[05:26] <devish> DasEi: but it will be too hectic i suppose
 Oh, and I also tried taking out the hard drive and attaching it to this computer (the one I am typing from), but then I don't know what to do from there.
[05:26] <rypervenche> codeperl: I sent you a PM.
[05:27] <urlin2u> BlackFlag, can you answer my question of the desktop?
[05:27] <grendal-prime> rypervenche, i was just letting him know that sometimes it takes some time to figure out exactly what he needs
[05:27] <devish> zykotick9: so you see a possibility there
[05:27] <bundai>  i need help reg rsync
[05:27] <bundai> any help?
[05:27] <JokesOnYou77> flammifer: did you get it attached? Did the connector work?
[05:27] <devish> zykotick9: perhaps you can tell mme the way to try out
[05:27] <zykotick9> devish, i highly doubt it (on GNU/Linux)
[05:27] <grendal-prime> bundai, what do you want to do?
[05:27] <DasEi> devish: not really, just have a while loop and in it ifup btw. down with desired settings
[05:28] <DasEi> bundai: reg rsync I don't understand
[05:28] <grendal-prime> bundai, i sync terrabytes a day with rsync.
[05:28] <DasEi> reg ?
[05:28] <grendal-prime> on the fly..type rsync?
[05:28] <Luig1> Hey folks, I was just watching the USA Network show Suits, and they're definitely using Linux. This being the most popular distribution and their workspace switcher/trash applet being in the same places as the default in the Gnome 2 versions of Ubuntu, it looks to me like that show uses Ubuntu with a blue Gnome 2 theme for their computer shots.
[05:29] <urlin2u> !pm | BlackFlag
[05:29] <devish> DasEi: will give it a try thanks any way:)
[05:29] <DasEi> Luig1: ot here, could be gnome3
[05:29] <theadmin> Luig1: Could well be.
[05:29] <bundai> DasEi synchronization between two folder whic doesn't have delete rights
[05:29] <BlackFlag> Ok, I will answer, wait a moment please
[05:29] <Luig1> Just thought you might like the encouragement, sorry if this is the wrong place for it.
[05:30] <io_error> I found a solution to my own question, which was how to update an old version of ubuntu when do-release-upgrade doesn't work. The solution is to find the UpgradeTool at http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release, download and unpack it and run it manually.
[05:30] <grendal-prime> Luig1, and...we missed it!!!???
[05:30] <urlin2u> BlackFlag, do not pm me and go to the correct channel you are evading a simple question.
[05:30] <grendal-prime> damn it
[05:30] <DasEi> bundai: ah reg=syntax, ic , well : sudo rsync -Pr /path/first/folder  /path/second/folder
[05:30] <bundai> grendal-prime i need to sync two folder in network
[05:31] <DasEi> bundai: always safer to delete afterwards
[05:31] <grendal-prime> DasEi, i think he means regular.
[05:31] <grendal-prime> bundai, right..on a timer or triggerd by file write?
 yes
[05:31] <bundai> DasEi I need to make live sync
[05:31] <grendal-prime> ya this is a confusing part of rsync.
[05:31] <DasEi> bundai: see above, and man rsync for more
[05:32] <grendal-prime> typicaly its triggerd by like...cron...but you can do it by file right with incron
[05:32] <DasEi> bundai: is this a returning task ?
[05:32] <grendal-prime> wich will monitor a dir for file change...new file...
[05:32] <BlackFlag> urlin2u, Here are my desktop description http://paste.ubuntu.com/675037/
[05:32] <JokesOnYou77> flammifer: if you get it attached, just booth that computer into a live CD and boot into the live desktop and click the install Ubuntu icon on the desktop and select the laptop drive. Just make sure you pick the right drive, you might want to remove your other drive if you're worried
[05:33] <DasEi> bundai: ifso consider a cronjob or something like
[05:33] <DasEi> !info unison
[05:33] <bundai> grendal see it should work like this  what ever i put in A folder it should be apper in B and whatever i put in B it should be apper in A but both foder dont have delete option
[05:33] <grendal-prime> bundai, look at incron (wich uses inosync)   or cron
[05:34] <grendal-prime> incron will run a script ..(wich you put your rsync params into) wich is triggerd by..file creation, update...open close..you can specify what events will trigger it.
[05:34] <grendal-prime> bundai, how many files in this dir typically?
 All of the tutorials I could find on installing Ubuntu onto an external hard drive require that you have a CD-ROM drive, and even if I could get it to install by taking out the hard drive and attaching it to this computer, once I put it back into the original computer that it goes in, I don't think it would start up right. I know I tried several years ago while installing Windows, and I think it configures a
[05:35] <flammifer>  bunch of things specifically for the hardwar
[05:35] <flammifer> e of the system it is installed on
[05:35] <bundai> grendal approx 80 per day
[05:36] <BlackFlag> urlin2u, was this your question?
[05:36] <grendal-prime> flammifer, ubuntu is not windows.
[05:36] <grendal-prime> its linux, you can move bootable drives between machines very easyily
[05:36] <grendal-prime> bundai...ya that is a synch, look into incron.
[05:36] <urlin2u> BlackFlag, no and I'm done here.
[05:37] <grendal-prime> it will sync on file creation.
[05:37] <bundai> grendal does it do both ways
[05:37] <DasEi> flammifer: if you do a full install, it'll rather work with ubuntu than win , best way is use an usb installer and install directly to external enclosure
[05:37] <grendal-prime> you would instal it on both sides
 that's right
[05:37] <bundai> grendal no
[05:37] <DasEi> flammifer: choose expert install and take whole option, not just box-specific ones, then mostly graphics could matter
[05:38] <grendal-prime> incron uses inosync (kernel level file monitoring basically)  it watches the inode actions of the kernel
[05:38] <bundai> gredal then it doesn't work from me !
 So are you saying that an Ubuntu install is not hardware specific to the system it is installed on like Windows is?
[05:38] <bundai> grendal I need only sysn two folder one on centos other is on ubuntu
[05:38] <BlackFlag> urlin2u, sorry, I don't understand what do you mean with Desktop
[05:39] <urlin2u> BlackFlag, is it ubutnu, kubuntu, lubuntu, xubuntu?
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> flammifer: you can even switch the drive between systems if you get a new one and it wi fly
[05:39] <JokesOnYou77> flammifer: I think I missed something.  The internal hard drive from the laptop should have an IDE or SATA (or something proprietary) connector which should connect to the relevant cord on your other computer's motherboard and register with the mobo's hard drive controller.  That would NOT be an external hard drive, it would be seen as a secondary internal drive.
[05:39] <DasEi> bundai: it'll work as grendal-prime tells you, but maybe use a tool as unison, easier to set up (for cli-nogo)
[05:39] <grendal-prime> flammifer, i have taken a hd that was an unbuntu distro router config..out of a dead machine(powersupply failed) droped it into a machine that was brand new (5 years difference in mb) and it booted right up.
[05:40] <BlackFlag> urlin2u, Oh, I use Ubuntu, with Gnome
[05:40] <grendal-prime> I had to make adjustments for the number of ethernet cards and whatnot but system booted up just fine
 That idea sounds good, except that I don't have a CD-ROM drive on the other computer either. But the other computer can at least boot from the USB drive, so I could do it that way. I would be worried about wiping the hard drive, so maybe I'll do it on another computer that doesn't matter if it gets wiped clean, other than wasting time to reinstall Ubuntu onto that machine again.
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> flammifer: does it have floppy drive?
[05:42] <wsagent> need help wifi is not working rfkill list shows software blocked yes
[05:42] <grendal-prime> flammifer, in fact i frequently throw old hd's into a other machines and the bios is not set ot boot from cd..everytime the os just boots up.
[05:42] <bundai> DasEi I try Unison Long back I need live one but in unision once sync finish its get stop
[05:42] <urlin2u> BlackFlag, I can't really help you, I showed you a app that should be just like mine that isn't so I know not what else to do.
[05:42] <grendal-prime> it happens all the time
[05:42] <grendal-prime> it will usually bitch about something not being right..but the os still boots
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> flammifer: there is a floppy image on pendriveLinux which makes a bootable floppy to then boot usb.
[05:43] <grendal-prime> dude it takes 5 min for a basic instal..what do you have to loose?
[05:43] <BlackFlag> urlin2u, thank you for your attention!
[05:43] <grendal-prime> here i am talking about how easy it is..yet i got this werid similar problem
[05:44] <grendal-prime> not quite the same thing but close...i got a drive that was a primary drive im trying to mount and it is only showing me the primary partition
 Oh, or maybe I missed something. I thought you meant take it out and hook it to my other machine externally, without taking the existing hard drive out of that machine. These are all laptops and netbooks that I'm working with, so they're not always that easy or safe to open up and move hard drives around. I would be opening the laptop, removing the hard drive, opening an external hard drive out of it's case,
[05:44] <flammifer>  then putting the hard drive from the laptop into that case in order to allow it to connect to my other computer by USB. That was how I did it before.
[05:44] <JokesOnYou77> flammifer: I would take out the hard drive on the working computer and then put in just the laptop drive so you don't have to worry.  The only thing is the laptop drive might not have a connector that fits if it's really old
[05:44] <grendal-prime> im wanting to get my vms off of the drive
 Cool!
[05:46] <JokesOnYou77> flammifer: Yeah, I wouldn't recommend that...and you're right, it wouldn't install the way you want without some extra work
[05:46] <grendal-prime> kinda werid
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> flammifer: laptop drives, along with the RAM, are made easy to replace. You can get adapters so you can connect them to ordinary desktop controllers. Dead handy.
 No floppy drive because it's a laptop, CD-ROM drive broke years ago, and USB won't boot because the BIOS is antique
[05:47] <JokesOnYou77> flammifer: ActionParsnip is right, the HDD shouldn't be too hard to take out.  Also, I had another idea, can you just replace the broken Cd drive?
[05:47] <BlackFlag> I tried this prompt "setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=60" but doesn't work too
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> flammifer: some netbooks use hard wired flash storage but some use conventional style drives
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> flammifer: some laptops (especially old ones) have floppy drives.
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> flammifer: got a usb optical drive you ca
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> Can use/borrow
[05:51] <BlackFlag> bundai, where can I find the drivers? I tried, but the way I did, didn't work.
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> flammifer: and can the bios boot that?
[05:52] <JokesOnYou77> ActionParsnip: That would be a USB device so I'm guessing, no
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> Gah
 I could try an external CD drive, but I assume that it might not work if it won't boot from an external hard drive. But maybe I will try that. I just thought there should be a simpler way to install that doesn't require all kinds of external media. The Wubi installer is really what I needed in this situation, but it always quits with an error.
[05:53] <grendal-prime> ya this is werid.
[05:53] <grendal-prime> umount: /dev/sdb5: not mounted
[05:53] <grendal-prime> mount: /dev/sdb5 already mounted or /mnt/drive2 busy
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> flammifer: could setup a PXE server if it can netboot
[05:53] <grendal-prime> and drive2 is not busy.
[05:53] <grendal-prime> grrr
[05:54] <aLeSD> hi all
[05:54] <aLeSD> I am thinking in buy a new computer
[05:54] <aLeSD> a netbook
[05:54] <betanick> Error "Can't create PID file /var/run/dhcpd/dhcpd.pid: No such file or directory." Ubuntu 11.04 Server
[05:54] <aLeSD> what cpu do u suggest ?
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> flammifer: download the iso, md5 test it then use magicdisk/daemontools to mount it.
[05:55] <urlin2u> aLeSD, /join #hardware
[05:55] <betanick> can i specify where dhcpd creates its pid file?
[05:55] <aLeSD> ok
[05:55] <JokesOnYou77> flammifer: I actually was thinking maybe you could open it up and just attach a different INTERNAL CD drive to the motherboard
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> aLeSD: one suiti
[05:55] <io_error> betanick: Does the directory exist?
[05:55] <grendal-prime> aLeSD, i have an acer aspire1 d255.
[05:55] <betanick> io_error: no.. should i just create it?
[05:56] <io_error> betanick: sure
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> aLeSD: one suiting your needs
[05:56] <aLeSD> cause yesterday night a glass of milk fallowed on my pc
[05:56] <grendal-prime> love it.  does have a kernel compile to get physical nic to work..but wirelesss worked out of the box
 Well, the BIOS settings has a boot order option for hard drive order that boots "PC-card" first, and then "internal hard drive" second, but the problem is that this doesn't actually do anything, it still just loads straight into Windows without ever booting from the bootable USB stick
[05:56] <grendal-prime> aLeSD, linux drinks milk
[05:56] <uns0b1ll> Xubuntu question here - got Nvidia Geforce 210, wonder which drivers to get and how to enable compiz
[05:56] <aLeSD> my acen not
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> aLeSD: either way its not ubuntu related, its hardware
[05:56] <aLeSD> ok
 It has a PXE option, which I wondered about, but I don't know anything about doing a netboot
[05:57] <grendal-prime> aLeSD,  the d255 has 4 procs.
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> flammifer: go find out ;-)
[05:57] <grendal-prime> flammifer, you should read up on that i would fix your situation quickly
[05:58] <grendal-prime> sorry not I but IT
[05:58] <grendal-prime> night guys ill fix this in the morning
[05:58] <urlin2u> aLeSD, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1415038
[05:59] <urlin2u> uns0b1ll, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1415038  sorry alsed
[06:00] <Roklobsta> how do I found out who a package maintainer is?
[06:01] <uns0b1ll> after i enabled features i cant move windows around anymore without holding CTRL
[06:01] <uns0b1ll> i mean ALT
[06:01] <uns0b1ll> i just did compiz --replace
[06:01] <urlin2u> uns0b1ll, compiz?
[06:02] <uns0b1ll> urlin2u, yes
 I wouldn't know how to attach an internal CD drive onto a laptop motherboard. I opened this laptop up once or twice a few years ago to change some components that had gone bad, and it was A LOT of trouble, taking a probably a few hours (It's a big old laptop where all the components are burried under other ones, and each layer has hidden or inaccessible screws, so you never know if you just haven't yanked ha
[06:02] <flammifer> rd enough, or if there is another screw hiding underneath something!).
[06:02] <urlin2u> uns0b1ll, click move windows
[06:02] <wilder> Hello world.
[06:03] <uns0b1ll> urlin2u, its checked
[06:03] <urlin2u> uns0b1ll, you have to use the cursor in the window header to move it without the alt
[06:04] <uns0b1ll> urlin2u, i cant select window header with mouse pointer, i can only move it with holding ALT and clicking header
[06:06] <uns0b1ll> urlin2u, i just enabled put window feature
[06:06] <urlin2u> uns0b1ll, that fix it?
[06:06] <uns0b1ll> let me run compiz --replace
[06:07] <uns0b1ll> na
[06:07] <uns0b1ll> hmm
[06:07] <JokesOnYou77> flammifer: Yikes.  I know you said that there should be some other way to install, there isn't a way to install anything if you can't boot to something that's not the OS.  The only thing I can really think of is to take out the hard drive.  I know that's not what you wanted to hear, but that's all I've got if ActionParsnip or someone else can help you go for it, but I got nothin else
[06:08] <urlin2u> uns0b1ll, problem is there are alot of plugins in compiz none of us knows how yours is setup, there are many web pages with specifics, for say having the cube...etc, so if you don't get help here you might try #compiz as well.
[06:10] <uns0b1ll> urlin2u, okay
[06:10] <uns0b1ll> urlin2u, thanks
[06:11] <urlin2u> uns0b1ll, no problem, I have the cube and all and know how to set mine up did you want the cube?
[06:11] <endip> Out of the blue a couple of days ago my laptop fan starts spinning up for like 3-5 seconds and then dies back down, sometimes it does it for like 1 second and then spins down again. Sensors are showing my CPU sporadically jumping up and down 10-15 degrees. Any thoughts on what might be causing this? I'm running ubuntu 11.04
[06:12] <the_intel_> Which version of Ubuntu is more stable ?
[06:12] <the_intel_> 10 or 11
[06:13] <dr-willis> for max stability go lts.
[06:13] <the_intel_> Because , I am currently using 11.04 and I am not happy :\
[06:13] <dr-willis> !lts
[06:13] <the_intel_> It gives me some problems in display some times
[06:13] <the_intel_> I also didn't liked the idea of unity bar , sorry.
[06:13] <centHOGG> lts ftw
[06:13] <dr-willis> !classic
[06:14] <the_intel_> I have changed my 11.04 to classic
[06:14] <the_intel_> But
[06:14] <the_intel_> It gives me errors like the window dosn't loads correctly
[06:14] <dr-willis> clasdic gnome 2 is going away in next release.
[06:14] <the_intel_> dr-willis, what do you mean?
[06:14] <the_intel_> they are removing classic gnome?
[06:14] <dr-willis> exactly..
[06:15] <DasEi> the_intel_: gnome will be completly dropped soon
[06:15] <the_intel_> ....
[06:15] <the_intel_> WHY!
[06:15] <dr-willis> no more gnome2/clasdic
[06:15] <the_intel_> Well, But atleast make the unity bar configurable?
[06:15] <the_intel_> positionable
[06:15] <DasEi> the_intel_: good question, wrong place here, either go lubuntu or similar or debian, a poll for #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:15] <dr-willis> gnome devs are killing it for one reason...
[06:15] <the_intel_> left side is irritating for me.
[06:16] <dr-willis> i just hide it and use awn.
[06:16] <the_intel_> awn?
[06:16] <DasEi> !info awn
[06:16] <the_intel_> ?
[06:16] <dr-willis> !dock
[06:16] <DasEi> the_intel_: window manager
[06:16] <the_intel_> Like rocket dock ?
[06:17] <pindropper> I have a server setup with 10.04 wih apache 2 . I just installed ssmtp and configured it to use gmail's smtp to send emails. Everything works fine, but the username for the email address is always set to"www-data". Even though I've enabled from override. What I am missing?
[06:17] <dr-willis> avant - awn
[06:18] <the_intel_> dr-willis, Well, How do you hide unity?
[06:18] <dr-willis> there will be gnome shell in the next release also. so i wont miss gnome 2 much. ;)
[06:18] <dr-willis> ccsm unity plugin has settings.
[06:18] <dr-willis> !ccsm
[06:18] <the_intel_> ohh
[06:18] <the_intel_> I have compizconfig setting manager.
[06:19] <pindropper> Also, what is the best mail server for simple email service (no need to access web based interface etc).
[06:19] <dr-willis> sometimes i set it to never hide. ;). depnds on my mood
[06:19] <wilder> how do i get vncviewer to allow remote access, so that I don't have to be on the same network
[06:19] <wilder> remote is enabled but it seems to be for local network only
[06:19] <dr-willis> wilder:  a ssh tunnel is the secure way
[06:19] <ParkerR> \o/ Woo finally turned 18 :D
[06:19] <dr-willis> !vnc
[06:20] <betanick> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessAccessPoint => outdated?
[06:20] <wilder> dr-willis, so i could just 'ssh user@IP'?
[06:20] <wilder> what do i need to enable to allow that access?
[06:21] <dr-willis> you make a ssh tunnel wilder
 OK, thanks! I guess I was hoping there was something like Wubi, but that would not always end in a crash. But I was also looking for other ways. I can still try an external CD drive, but I need to get blank CDs that actually work before I can do that (no one uses CDs anymore, so they're getting hard to find, and the old blanks I had laying around from years ago are all rotted out by now, since most CDs only
[06:21] <flammifer> have a life of 1-5 years). And I am looking into a network install, although I have very little experience in that area thus far.
[06:21] <ParkerR> betanick, yeah I bet there are some newer tutorials
[06:21] <dr-willis> install ssh.  check that url above
[06:21] <BlackFlag> I have a notebook with video card from SIS, 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter, with Ubuntu 11.04 with Gnome (Unity doesn't work here) and I need to reduce the brightness of the screen. I tried this prompt "setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=60", but doens't work; in power management have no slider to control it...
[06:22] <ParkerR> BlackFlag, tried System > Preferences > Power management? Theres a brightness slider on that first page
[06:23] <BlackFlag> ParkerR, the slider doesn't appear
[06:23] <ParkerR> BlackFlag, hmm dunno then. Sorry.
[06:24] <flammifer>  <JokesOnYou77> I also looked into upgrading the BIOS, but it seems that Toshiba is trying to get me to download a BIOS upgrade that is not actually rated for my model of laptop.
[06:25] <flammifer> OK, thanks everyone! I guess I have a few directions I can try out now. I'll see if any of them work!
[06:25] <wilder> i am having difficulty with that
[06:26] <tdn> I have just attached a USB mouse, however, it does not seem to work. It works fine in other computers though. How do I fix this?
[06:26] <betanick> ParkerR: do you know of any?
[06:26] <endip> A few days ago my laptop fan started this thing where it spins up for 1-30 seconds and then spins down. My laptop CPU isn't running hot at all, but sensors shows that my cpu temp keeps jumping up 5-15 degrees hotter very quickly for no apparent reason, and the fan spins up. It goes from 38 degrees to 66 degrees for no apparent reason. I'm in a basement in Alaska and it's 65 degrees in here so I have no idea why my laptop would be running hot. Any ideas
[06:26] <endip> ?
[06:26] <tdn> The cursor does not move.
[06:27] <ParkerR> betanick, not off the top of my head
[06:27] <zruty> What is a good prog to rip CDs to MP3?
[06:27] <ParkerR> zruty, either rhythmbox or banshee will do it
[06:27] <ParkerR> There are prolly some cli programs to do so too
[06:27] <zruty> ParkerR: I will try that, thanks!
[06:31] <endip> Anyone have any idea why my fan starts spinning up for like 1-30 seconds at a time, and why lm sensors is showing my cpu heat jumping up 15 degrees in 1 second for no apparent reason?
[06:32] <mechafenris> endip: it could be a really persistent program taxing your machine... like a scheduled job or something.
[06:33] <slobro> has anyone used srware iron browser on ubuntu?
[06:33] <sunit> I am getting Exception in thread "main" java.awt.HeadlessException when trying to run jasper iReport in ubuntu 10.04. please see url http://dpaste.com/602495/
[06:34] <slobro> just installed the newest .deb package, and cant find out that with witch command it starts it.
[06:34] <slobro> ..from terminal
[06:35] <endip> mechafenris, I don't think so in this case. System monitor doesn't show any program jumping up in CPU usage. It happens even when i have just my terminal open. And it just started happening a few days ago. I've had 11.04 on this laptop for a while.
[06:37] <harpal> I have Lenovo S10-3t note book , I have installed ubuntu 10.10. My WIFI is showing as disabled, but its already enabled
[06:37] <endip> mechafenris, I did notice that cpu usage jumps way up, but system monitor doesn't show any programs using my cpu. The cpu usage just spikes for no apparent reason.
[06:37] <YadaBada> is there a way to backup the system files in ubuntu 10.04?
[06:38] <qin> endip: Use htop, since System Monitor is hog itself.
[06:38] <endip> qin,  k
[06:38] <zruty> ParkerR: Doesn't seem to work.... Seems the program is stuck. Also I see no controls at all to rip....
[06:38] <YadaBada> is there a way to backup the system files in ubuntu 10.04? or the whole partition and restore it whenever?
[06:39] <ParkerR> zruty, which one are you using?
[06:39] <qin> YadaBada: You mean whole system?
[06:39] <zruty> RhythmBox
[06:39] <YadaBada> qin: yes
[06:39] <zruty> Pardon me ParkerR: RhythmBox
[06:40] <ParkerR> zruty, why twice? XD
[06:40] <zruty> ParkerR: I fo9rgot to address you
[06:40] <ParkerR> Thats ok I pay attention
[06:40] <qin> YadaBada: Well, apart of home and package list there is not much sense in back up of system files.
[06:41] <ParkerR> zruty, try sudo apt-get install ripoff
[06:41] <mechafenris> endip: once I had a malfunctioning driver spew (every so often) errors to syslog at such a rate, it would spike up the cpu heat and usage at specific intervals (probably a timeout, I don't know), but when I updated that driver the machine went back to behaving...
[06:43] <YadaBada> qin: yes there is a lot of sense of doing so, specialy when so many people are new for ubuntu, and keep formating thier pcs again and again for the smallest mistakes
[06:44] <ParkerR> zruty, then ripoff
[06:44] <endip> mechafenris, do you know if there is a way to look up which processes are taxing the system like that?
[06:44] <ParkerR> Should be a little gtk window to rip
[06:45] <endip> mechafenris, currently, i'm trying to watch htop, but everything is going by so fast I can't track what's going on. When the fan speeds up the processes that go up in cpu usage are ubuntu-syncdeamon and ubuntu-login
[06:45] <qin> YadaBada: Well, recovering full back up will be propably slower than new install, besides, for experiments, use virtualbox and spare image.
[06:47] <tdn> zruty, k3b
[06:47] <Guest27242> any brasilian channel here? i'm new on this...
[06:47] <uns0b1ll> how to setup compiz to boot on xubuntu load ?
[06:47] <Slart> !br | Guest27242
[06:47] <qin> YadaBada: If you have same size (or biggeer hard drive) you can just make image of system, but it is vary stiff method.)
[06:48] <Guest27242> aloha
[06:48] <qin> YadaBada: And: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[06:48] <endip> I have no idea what's causing my cpu to explode like this for literally like .5 seconds at a time. It's really starting to piss me off though. I'm going to install xubuntu and see if I get the same problem
[06:49] <YadaBada> qin: can i restore it from the hard drive? what app?
[06:50] <endip> How can a process make your CPU heat spike 15 degrees in .5 seconds? Something isn't right in Ubuntu, or kernal or something.
[06:50] <YadaBada> qin: i will read it all friend, thank you
[06:51] <ubuntux> is anyone here using an hp probook? If so, what's you experience with linux on it?
[06:51] <endip> It appears that my CPU and CPU fan are spiking whenever a process at /user/bin/python goes up in CPU usage. Even though the usage is only like 3% in htop, my fan goes crazy for like 1 second, and my CPU temp spikes between 5-15 degrees.
[06:54] <wildbat> endip what is your idle temp? 5-15 degrees C ? or F :)
[06:54] <tdn> I have just attached a USB mouse, however, it does not seem to work: The cursor does not move when the mouse has been inserted. The touchpad works. The mouse works fine in other computers though. How do I fix this? This is what is written in dmesg when inserting the mouse: http://paste.adora.dk/P2142.txt
[06:55] <endip> wildbat, 38-39 C.
[06:58] <wildbat> endip: and full load temp ?
[06:59] <endip> wildbat, when it spikes up it spikes up to 65 degrees at the most, but often just 55 or so. Then the fan kicks in for about one second and spins back down to a lower speed again. Sometimes it will kick on for 30 seconds if my system is a little warmer, but right now it's really cold where I'm at and the whole laptop is pretty cold.
[06:59] <tdn> endip, cpu temp of 5 degrees C seems extremely low.
[07:02] <endip> tdn, I never said 5 degrees C
[07:03] <endip> wildbat, ubuntu login seems to be jumping up to like 50% cpu usage sometimes. It's one of the programs that seems to cause this problem. I wish I could copy the lines out of htop to show you.
[07:04] <wildbat> endip, that's strange ~ i don't think is physically possible for 15 spike up and down in a second. unless there is a failing sensor.
[07:05] <endip> wildbat, well, that could be. I'm out of my league there. Don't know much about sensors.
[07:07] <Nomad77> Hi all I have broken packages.I found this out trying to installsomething via synaptic package manager,synaptic wouldnt fix the broken packages.can anyone direct me on how to fix the issue?
[07:07] <wildbat> endip: do you have try other OS ~ see if there is issue on them too ~ i doubt it is ubuntu fault.  even 100%CPU every random sec shouldn't cause that.
[07:08] <Nomad77> if someone could tell me how to get to where you can choose kernals on startup and go into the safe mode or whatever there and choose fix broken packages that might help
[07:08] <endip> wildbat, you know what's strange is that the programs that jump up to #1 in the CPU usage in htop and system monitor tend to be a random mix of the same 5 or so programs. I don't know if any of them are actually causing the problem or not
[07:09] <valthyx> etsec
[07:09] <endip> wildbat, good point.
[07:10] <Nomad77> I have broken packages,how can I fix?
[07:10] <zagibu> use duct tape
[07:10] <wildbat> endip: unless there is some program jump up and down 100% ~ i don't see a issue in your case as it is just 3% of your cpu.
[07:10] <zagibu> fixes everything
[07:10] <Nomad77> sorry not being impatient,figured people might lose interest in my long question lol
[07:10] <Nomad77> lol zagibu
[07:11] <zagibu> Nomad77: what is exactly the problem? can't you boot anymore, or what?
[07:11] <endip> wildbat, I'm not really worried about my system, I'm really annoyed by the fan. I would rather it just stay on max all of the time than jump up and down.
[07:11] <Nomad77> zagibu,I am trying to install ubuntu tweak and it tells me it wont cause I have broken packages,boots fine
[07:11] <endip> wildbat, but it just seems to be really random. It doesn't look like any one program is causing it.
[07:11] <BlackFlag> I have a notebook with video card from SIS, 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter, with Ubuntu 11.04 with Gnome (Unity doesn't work here) and I need to reduce the brightness of the screen. I tried this prompt "setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=60", but doens't work; in power management have no slider to control it...
[07:11] <io_error> Nomad77: open a terminal, and type in:   sudo apt-get install -f
[07:12] <wildbat> !fan | endip this may help ~
[07:12] <Nomad77> replace the f with ubuntu tweak?
[07:12] <omoblaze> Wat would be preferable , a slow pc with fast internet or fast pc with slow internet???
[07:12] <endip> wildbat, sometimes after it jumps up I notice that system monitor takes like 3-5 seconds to respond and it shows everything as 0% CPU usage.
[07:12] <airtonix> awesome. :< can't right click the time/date panel bar widget to get "copy time/date"
[07:13]  * airtonix rages
[07:13] <Acid190> is there a way to manipulate the keyboard in terminal?
[07:13] <endip> wildbat, yeah, I installed fan control earlier. I just need to figure out how to write a script to make it run on startup and just run the fan at a higher speed, or lower speed consistantly. Do you happen to know of a good place for a tutorial on that?
[07:14] <YadaBada> qin: what do you mean about this "If you have same size (or biggeer hard drive) you can just make image of system, but it is vary stiff method.)"
[07:14] <Nomad77> terminal didnt install anything
[07:14] <Nomad77> 1 not upgraded
[07:14] <wildbat> endip, #bash for scripting help
[07:15] <Nomad77> anyone know how to get ubuntu to ask what kernal to install on startup?
[07:16] <zagibu> Nomad77: broken packages have nothing to do with the kernel
[07:16] <Nomad77> zag,but you can fix broken packages there I believe
[07:16] <zagibu> just remove the broken packages with apt-get remove --purge packagename
[07:17] <zagibu> then reinstall
[07:17] <Nomad77> it dont tell me what package it is
[07:17] <nZw> \leaf
[07:18] <Nomad77> I run ultimate ubuntu and done the upgrade and I think that was a giant mistake and it caused this issue
[07:19] <zagibu> Nomad77: try what second last poster is saying here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=947124
[07:20] <Nomad77> I'm on it zagibu thx for the effort in helping
[07:21] <gelian> can someone explain the output of "apt-cache policy" to me? i get this for "python-glade2", and I'm wondering what the 980 and 995 numbers mean. I tried pinning all packages from winswitch to 995, except glade2, which i wanted to have 980. however, the numbers end up in different places...
[07:21] <gelian>      2.22.0-1ubuntu1 980
[07:21] <gelian>      2.22.0-1ubuntu1 980
[07:21] <gelian>         995 http://winswitch.org/ natty/main i386 Packages
[07:21] <FloodBot1> gelian: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:21] <gelian>         995 http://winswitch.org/ natty/main i386 Packages
[07:21] <Nomad77> zagibu it never located a broken package
[07:22] <io_error> Nomad77: Whatever happened with:  sudo apt-get install -f
[07:22] <io_error> And maybe comcrap won't throw me off again
[07:22] <Nomad77> io_error doing that basically told me that package was already installed
[07:22] <Nomad77> 1 not upgraded was its wording
[07:23] <io_error> Nomad77: You didn't type it correctly. Try again, this time do it exactly as shown, type in   sudo apt-get install -f   and then press Enter. Nothing else.
[07:24] <Nomad77> ok i installed java 6 plugin without error,so it was a ubuntu tweak specific error
[07:25] <Nomad77> I copied and pasted it
[07:25] <Nomad77> its odd because a dependancy error would seem more likly
[07:26] <beef2011> can anyone spare the time to help me with my rt3090 card? I need 1 to 1 because it seems like a really deep problem and I'm not that skilled.
[07:26] <io_error> beef2011: Just ask your question :)
[07:29] <beef2011> my rt3090bc4 card refuses to work under ubuntu, is there any way I can get it running? (Has tried blacklisting etc etc and Markus Heberling drivers)
[07:31] <Nomad77> Iwas able to install ubuntu tweak via software center after adding the ppa via terminal
[07:32] <betanick> has anybody here turned Ubuntu 11.04 Server into a wireless access point?
[07:34] <beef2011> my rt3090bc4 card refuses to work under ubuntu, is there any way I can get it running? (Has tried blacklisting etc etc and Markus Heberling drivers)
[07:37] <charlie> hllo
[07:38] <charlie> hi
[07:38] <alpha> what does the authentication type "login" mean in evolution?
[07:39] <dragonkeeper_> type of login authentication the server uses id expect
[07:39] <beef2011> how do I get my rt3090bc4 card to work?
[07:40] <alpha> yes, I know that. But exactly what does that mean?
[07:40] <alpha> what's the difference between PLAIN and LOGIN, say
[07:41] <charlie> hi
[07:41] <beef2011> my rt3090bc4 card refuses to work under ubuntu, is there any way I can get it running? (Has tried blacklisting etc etc and Markus Heberling drivers)
[07:41] <papoumomo> bionjour
[07:41] <dragonkeeper_> unsure
[07:42] <dragonkeeper_> not used evolution in a long time
[07:43] <dragonkeeper_> but alpha if you know the server details then just select the type u need
[07:44] <oCean> alpha: there's various ways for esmpt authentication. Here's some explanation: http://www.fehcom.de/qmail/smtpauth.html##FRAMEWORK
[07:44] <oCean> *esmtp
[07:44] <io_error> beef2011: What problem are you having?
[07:45] <betanick> has anybody here turned Ubuntu 11.04 Server into a wireless access point?
[07:46] <beef2011> io_error: well when I get into ubuntu it won't let me connect to networks it thinks for a few moments and then says 'Network disconnected' and blacklisting or using markus Heberling drivers doesn't help
[07:46] <FloodBot1> piIIu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:46] <beef2011> io_error: it won't display any networks either
[07:47] <beef2011> io_error: but ubuntu seems to know it's there because it shows a bluetooth symbol in the panel
[07:49] <charlie> anyone there
[07:49] <ralliart888> hello
[07:49] <charlie> hi
[07:49] <charlie> i think where the last ones
[07:50] <ralliart888> i just setup irc in terminal
[07:50] <ralliart888> this cool
[07:50] <charlie> ya
[07:50] <dragonkeeper_> yh till it times out
[07:50] <charlie> how
[07:51] <charlie> you there
[07:51] <dragonkeeper_> logged in via a terminal then it will usually log you out when its inactive
[07:52] <beef2011> io_error: you see the ever so slight problem now? :-)
[07:55] <charlie> hi
[07:55] <valdur55> Hello. I have problem with radiotray in 11.10. It shows first time config. App indicator is only right , when i choose System tray icon, it fails to load
[07:56] <charlie> hummmmm
[07:56] <oCean> valdur55: 11.10 is still alpha, support in #ubuntu+1
[07:56] <valdur55> thx
[08:00] <marcin_> kl
[08:03] <charlie> hi
[08:04] <charlie> hi
[08:07] <zertyui> hi all
[08:08] <zertyui> my server is down i have 3 users can able to connect how to check who switched off my server ?
[08:10] <wildbat> zertyui: check sudo log in auth.log
[08:10] <adde89> Hey guys, Is there anyone online who could help me regarding changing kernel on Xubuntu?
[08:10] <zertyui> where is it that file ? wildbat
[08:11] <wildbat> /var/log/auth.log
[08:11] <egr> hi there. can I find gnome-terminal color-theme somewhere onoline ?? google didn't help..
[08:12] <bundai> hi
[08:12] <zertyui> perfect wildbat  and for centos
[08:12] <bundai> is there anyone who can help in twoway live sync
[08:14] <wildbat> !info unison
[08:14] <adde89> Hey, can anyone help me change my kernel from 35 to 32?
[08:16] <bundai> ubottu in unison once sync complet it get stop i can't do live
[08:18] <vlt> bundai: Define "live" then, please.
[08:18] <adde89> x)
[08:18] <adde89> No one ? :p
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> bundai: you can use dropbox...
[08:22] <bundai> vlt I have to two pc with centos and ubunt i want make rsyn to both live mean if i put file or foler in centos it should be apper in unbuntu visvers but both share folder don't have delete option
[08:22] <bundai> do you understand
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> bundai: https://www.dropbox.com/help/137
[08:23] <bundai> ActionParsnip I have more than 25gb perday
[08:23] <flashy> /quit/quit
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> bundai: yes, read the link though, it may help
[08:26] <adante> wow
[08:26] <adante> so there is an outstanding bug that non-root users can no longer mount cifs shares
[08:26] <adante> reported october 2010 and outstanding august 2011, importance undecided
[08:27] <Lulz> а кто тут админ?
[08:27] <bundai> actionparsnip its not free
[08:27] <IdleOne> !ru | Lulz
[08:27] <bullgard4_> A DEB program package includes a package description. What directory stores all descriptions of the iinstalled DEB program packages in Ubuntu 10.04?
[08:28] <Lulz> !ru
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4_: there is a file named 'status' I forget where it's stored
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4_: /var/lib/dpkg/status
[08:32] <Lulz> who speaks Russian?
[08:33] <IdleOne> Lulz: #ubuntu-ru
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> !ru
[08:34] <Lulz> а что мне сделать с "!ru"
[08:34] <Lulz> but what can I do with "! ru"
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> Lulz: it tells you haw to join the channel
[08:35] <bullgard4_> Lulz: This is to tell you how you can get help in Russian language.
[08:36] <Lulz> thanks!!!!!!!!!
[08:39] <bullgard4_> ActionParsnip: Very good! Thank you very much for your excellent help.
[08:39] <golgotha> anyone know good sites for people trying to learn linux
[08:39] <Lulz> how to create a room on the server "Ubuntu"???
[08:40] <bullgard4_> golgotha: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam
[08:40] <valdur55> Lulz, just type: /join #channel
[08:41] <golgotha> thanks @ bullgard4
[08:41] <golgotha> is wow still a pain to install on here btw
[08:44] <Asad2005> Ubuntu sees my disk as /dev/hdd How can i identify the disk physically from its sata port on MB ?
[08:45] <tomodachi> Asad2005: you can use the uuid to identify a disk
[08:45] <tomodachi> Asad2005:  its better than actaully using a specific port since if you switch the disks around they will still mount the same
[08:49] <Qlassys> Ola bruda
[08:49] <Asad2005> tomodachi: I have 5 disks in this PC and this one is having problem. I dont want to remove the wrong one these are ZFS
[08:49] <Qlassys> ikonia bruda && Pici bruda ola!
[08:50] <tyrone> arg...... my ubuntuone account has spazzed out. does anyone know why the connection would keep dropping? it simply won't sync on my work PC. all out of nowhere... anyone?
[08:53] <tomodachi> Asad2005: hmm i understand what you are after. the command dmesg will give you a list of your devices (and also what mapping they have like sdb etc) it will also give you a serial number of the drive.  Compare it on the serial number of the drive then
[08:54] <tyrone> noone?
[08:55] <tyrone> no-one?^
[08:55] <bullgard4_> !patience | tyrone
[08:55] <tyrone> bullgard4_ thanks. at least I know someone read my question.
[08:57] <Asad2005> tomodachi: thanks i will check that
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> tyrone: not something I use, I've always used dropbox :)
[08:58] <tyrone> actionparsnip. have never had an issue except when I got into the office this morning and all my work from home doesn't want to load up.....
[09:01] <bullgard4_> ActionParsnip: Why is the security copy /var/lib/dpkg/status-old 18 bits larger than /var/lib/dpkg/status?
[09:01] <REK_007> please someone tell me how to install deluge 1.3.1 manually
[09:02] <qin> REK_007: sudo apt-get install deluge
[09:02] <wilder> onoes
[09:02] <REK_007> 1.3.1 qin .. not 1.3.3 from thePPA
[09:02] <dos> hello, what's the name of archive manager command?
[09:02] <bullgard4_> s/bits/bytes/
[09:03] <qin> REK_007: Do you use natty?
[09:03] <REK_007> no i use lucid
[09:04] <REK_007> default is 1.2.2 and ppa adds 1.3.3
[09:04] <bullgard4_> dos: file-roller
[09:04] <qin> REK_007: Natty version is 1.3.1
[09:04] <Guest21573> bullgard4: thank you
[09:04] <REK_007> qin how do i get that on my ppa ?
[09:05] <glebihan> REK_007, look at "apt-cache policy deluge" to see which version are available in the repos
[09:05] <qin> REK_007: Rether get package from http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/deluge-torrent and build deb
[09:05] <REK_007> glebihan: a little more help will be better
[09:06] <REK_007> qin i tried building from source give some file error at linux x86_64
[09:06] <glebihan> REK_007, that's just a first step to check if version 1.3.1 could be installed directly with apt or not
[09:07] <REK_007> glebihan: ok how do i find it ?
[09:07] <glebihan> REK_007, use the command I just gave you : apt-cache policy deluge
[09:07] <REK_007> ok :P am so silly
[09:08] <Juozas> I can't update ubuntu package lists, it says about checksum errors and speed is a very slow. Why's it like that?
[09:09] <glebihan> Juozas, could you use pastebin to give us the complete output of "sudo apt-get update" ?
[09:10] <Juozas> i'll do after reboot, i'm on windows now
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> Juozas: can you give the output of:  sudo apt-get update    use a pastebin to host the text please
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> *snips*
[09:11] <glebihan> ActionParsnip, you rephrased me well :)
[09:11] <REK_007> glebihan: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/11574/
[09:11] <Guest14572> ActionParsnip :W
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> glebihan: I like to rephrase the best :D
[09:13] <glebihan> REK_007, do you specifically need version 1.3.1 or is version 1.3.3 ok ?
[09:13] <TSPEnt> hello
[09:14] <REK_007> glebihan: 1.3.3 has bugs with LSD . 1.3.a is the most stable . Thats what i have come to know
[09:14] <REK_007> 1.2.2 works fine but lacks a few features ..
[09:14] <glebihan> REK_007, ok then I guess you'll have to install it manually (I can't find a ppa containing version 1.3.1)
[09:15] <REK_007> glebihan: last day i saw a source for natty or other version having 1.3.1
[09:16] <glebihan> REK_007, yes current version for natty is 1.3.1 but not for lucid
[09:16] <REK_007> I cant use natty on lucid by any means /
[09:17] <REK_007> glebihan: will this do the work http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/GitRepo
[09:18] <glebihan> REK_007, not sure but I think this will get you version 1.3.3
[09:18] <Juozas> ok. I'm on ubuntu now. apt-get update log's here http://pastebin.com/1TvdFxSX
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> Juozas: http://pastebin.com/EQyruC9S
[09:21] <Drake|> what is the ubuntu offtopic chan? :p
[09:22] <glebihan> Drake|, #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:22] <bsmith093> how do i make a launcher that blanks and locks the screen WITHOUT enabling the screensaver
[09:22] <Drake|> ty glebihan :)
[09:22] <Arnold> Hello. In which channel could I get information about a progress made in the development version of Ubuntu (11.10) ?
[09:23] <bsmith093> ubuntu +1
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> Arnold: #ubuntu+1
[09:23] <Arnold> bsmith093 and ActionParsnip: Thanks.
[09:24] <bsmith093> wjats the command to turn off the display, and lock the screen without enabling the screensaver
[09:24] <glebihan> REK_007, I really can't find a built package of version 1.3.1 for lucid. If you really want that version, I think you'll have to build it from source.
[09:24] <bsmith093> im on a laptop, if it matters.
[09:24] <REK_007> glebihan: yeah am doing it
[09:25] <glebihan> REK_007, ok, have fun :)
[09:25] <chavo> bsmith093: zset
[09:25] <chavo> bsmith093: xset sorry
[09:27] <knittl> hi. how can i mount a secondary partition so it is writable from normal users?
[09:27] <Juozas> Thanks ActionParsnip, seems to work
[09:27] <knittl> in fstab
[09:28] <Inky-_> #preware
[09:28] <Inky-_> oops sorry lol
[09:29] <bais> ... I hate win7... but I must use it for work... :(  but sometime I can switch to my ubuntu installation... and today... GRLDR error blocked my passion... :( any help? I found something about grub4dos is it a good tool to resolve my situation ?
[09:29] <Guest33412> what is the error msg?
[09:30] <bais> cannot find GRLBR in all devices: press Ctrl-Alt-Del to restart
[09:30] <glebihan> knittl, what filesystem in on that partition ? fat32 ?
[09:30] <bais> ntfs :(
[09:30] <Zimsky> back
[09:30] <bais> I'm using ubuntu 11.04
[09:31] <Guest33412> did you try to run ubuntu live and check whether ur ntfs partition is accessible ?
[09:32] <bais> I'm on ntfs partition atm under (sob) win7
[09:32] <Guest33412> so, win7 works out fine yeah?
[09:33] <snuglepuss> has anyone gotten the gomtv stream to work in vlc?
[09:33] <bais> fine... works like win7
[09:33] <knittl> glebihan: ext3
[09:33] <bais> I'm searching on google: http://reboot.pro/7109/
[09:33] <knittl> but currently it's only root-writable …
[09:33] <glebihan> knittl, then permissions are not set in fstab but on the partition itself, use chmod/chown to set the correct partitions
[09:34] <glebihan> knittl, but be careful : is there another system installed on that partition ?
[09:34] <knittl> chown user.user /media/partition?
[09:34] <knittl> glebihan: no, it's simply for data
[09:34] <Nrm> hi everyone
[09:34]  * Boothk waves "I need some help on Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.10. Netbook-launcher ignores the mouse on Sony Vaio VGN-B3VP models"
[09:34] <bais> grub4dos is updated of I risk to break all my partitions ?
[09:34] <Guest33412> bais: did you install grub4dos manually or did you use a utility?
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> knittl: sudo chown user:user /media/partition
[09:35] <knittl> glebihan: ActionParsnip: yay, worked. thanks
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> knittl: use: chown -R      for recursive
[09:35] <knittl> i wonder why i never thought of that
[09:35] <bais> I never installed grub4dos, I used ubuntu cdrom installation
[09:35] <glebihan> knittl, ok then you could do "sudo chown user:user /media/partition" (: and not .)
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> knittl: np man
[09:35] <glebihan> knittl, you're wleomc
[09:35] <glebihan> welcome
[09:35] <knittl> glebihan: . works as good as :
[09:35] <improveupon> i am about to clone a hard drive dual-booting windows and ubuntu to an external hdd using either dd or clonezilla. t or f: the external drive should be formatted to ext4.
[09:36] <Guest33412> ok, so you installed ubuntu using wubi?
[09:36] <bais> yes wubi
[09:36] <g0th> hi
[09:36] <glebihan> knittl, weird, it's undocumented
[09:36] <zvacet> Boothk : 9.10 is not supported any more that can be source of your troubles
[09:36] <knittl> glebihan: i know ;)
[09:36] <g0th> I bought a 120Hz 3d monitor
[09:36] <knittl> probably non-standard
[09:36] <g0th> In system settings on kubuntu I however only can select 50Hz
[09:36] <Guest33412> bais: there's a pc that had ubuntu installed using wubi but unfortunately i uninstalled it!
[09:36] <g0th> or 50-55Hz
[09:37] <Guest33412> bais: ok, are you on windows right now? i mean the same pc?
[09:37] <bais> guest: do you think if I start wubi again it will fix me ?
[09:37] <bais> yes same pc
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> g0th: what video chip?
[09:37] <Guest33412> bais: no i don't think it's a good idea
[09:38] <REK_007> glebihan: I did it finally :)
[09:38] <Boothk> zvacet: I know, but I haven't got a script set up to configure Ubuntu 11 for a school environment yet
[09:38] <glebihan> REK_007, nice :)
[09:38] <Asad2005> tomodachi: dmesg did not display the serial but i got it with smartctl -a /dev/sdd
[09:38] <Guest33412> bais: could you please show all hidden AND system files and go to the root of C: drive?
[09:38] <Hyperbyte> Does anyone here know how to get an inittab style respawn going with systemd?
[09:38] <pindropper> I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but I am using ssmtp on ubuntu 10.04. I've configured it use my google apps account. Everything works perfectly, except the "From" name is always www-data. What am I missing? I tried to override this by using the override config option of ssmtp, but to no avail. Any ideas?
[09:38] <Boothk> zvacet: So I'm using my 9.10 script. I'm having these issues on fresh installs
[09:38] <REK_007> glebihan: is there a way to check which libtorrent is packed with 1.3.1 ?
[09:39] <glebihan> Hyperbyte, I think you just have to put a line containing "respawn" in your init script
[09:39] <Tech-1> ActionParsnip , i have a eeepc with 10.10 on it, i also had 9.10 on another part of it, i deleted 9.10 and now grub is asking 4 rescue, mind you, it only has a sd card port, how can i rescue grub ?
[09:40] <Hyperbyte> glebihan, systemd uses init scripts?
[09:40] <g0th> ActionParsnip: video chip in the monitor?
[09:41] <Tech-1> no goth, your graphics card
[09:41] <g0th> my graphics card is nvidia gtx 260
[09:41] <g0th> geforce
[09:41] <glebihan> Hyperbyte, oh sorry read you post a little too fast... I don't know about systemd
[09:41] <Guest33412> bais: i know how to use grub4dos or install it. but i don't know how does wubi name the files and where it places them. so i searched google and found the following:
[09:41] <Guest33412> bais: I had this problem as well:
[09:41] <Guest33412> Error.cannot find GRLDR in all devices. Press ctrl+alt+del to restart
[09:41] <Guest33412> I solved it quite easily after checking some blogs.
[09:41] <Guest33412> I searched the WUBILDR.* files on my Windows 7. They were located on the ubuntu folder. I copied -not moved- the 3 files directly to c:/
[09:41] <Guest33412> and it worked!!
[09:41] <Guest33412> :)
[09:41] <FloodBot1> Guest33412: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:42] <dubs_> hi, anyone about to help me figure out best way to dual boot windows with existing ubuntu install on two hds?
[09:43] <zvacet> Boothk:  can you upgrade to 10.4?
[09:43] <bais> Guest331412: I check that files
[09:43] <g0th> ActionParsnip: Nvidia Geforce GTX 260
[09:43] <idefix> is a HTC android phone a PalmOS device?
[09:43] <Boothk> 'fraid not, these are old, old machines. Essentially, we just need them to be able to browse online and use openoffice
[09:43] <REK_007> glebihan: do i have to keep the source ?folder anymore
[09:44] <Boothk> zvacet: 'fraid not, these are old, old machines. Essentially, we just need them to be able to browse online and use openoffice
[09:44] <dubs_> ideflix: nope
[09:44] <dubs_> idefix: even: it's androidOS
[09:45] <bobdobbs> my firewall won't stay dead.
[09:45] <idefix> is there a way then to synchronize your HTC with your computer?
[09:45] <TFGBD> Will 11.X still work with a 2.4 kernel?
[09:45] <dubs_> anyone help me with dual boot?
[09:45] <zvacet> Boothk:  if machine is old you can trz Lubuntu see http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde
[09:45] <bobdobbs> If I do service iptables stop, it stops... but not for long.
[09:45] <hell_razer> hello all, i am trying to istanll ubuntu 11.04, i can not find installation option "WITHOUT GRUB"
[09:45] <bobdobbs> iptables just turns itself on again, at a random time from after I kill it
[09:46] <bobdobbs> I can't find any documentation for this behaviour
[09:46] <bais> Guest33412: I found on c:\ubuntu\  some files with wubildr.*  I must copy all these to c:\ and overwrite exits ?
[09:46] <glebihan> REK_007, you shouldn't need to
[09:47] <zvacet> Boothk:  if you af
[09:47] <bobdobbs> I want to put my firewall down to use some web services, or ssh into the computer... but I can't if the firewall randomly keeps resurecting.
[09:47] <Boothk> zvacet: af?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> hell_razer: you can use the alternate ISO and it should ask where you want it installing (if at all).
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> bobdobbs: which firewall?
[09:48] <bobdobbs> iptables
[09:48] <daedra> hello, I would like to set my iPod up for use with gtkpod. How do you do this?
[09:48] <daedra> I have a 2nd gen shuffle, and it /used/ to work with gtkpod. However, now it only charges by USB and does not show up in /dev
[09:48] <zvacet> Boothk:  if you don't want to that you can try sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop that way you will have both desktops and you can remove ubuntu desktop if you want to
[09:48] <bobdobbs> ActionParsnip: I'm using ubuntu 10.04 on my desktop.
[09:48] <hell_razer> ActionParsnip: where i can fint these iso?
[09:49] <van7hu> hi
[09:49] <dubs_> hell_razer: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[09:49] <Boothk> zvacet: Alright, thanks. I'll try that
[09:49] <van7hu> how could I install gcc if my system does not have gcc?
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> hell_razer: http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-11.04-alternate-i386.iso   I assume 32bit
[09:49] <th0r> bobdobbs: how are you killing your firewall?
[09:50] <bobdobbs> iptables -F
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> bobdobbs: ok so you are certainly using iptables, do you use a GUI app to configure it?
[09:50] <bobdobbs> well, first I tried turning off iptables with ufw, then gufw
[09:50] <bobdobbs> but the fw wouldn't stay down
[09:50] <hell_razer> ActionParsnip: thnx
[09:51] <bobdobbs> So I switched to just using iptables from the commandline
[09:51] <bobdobbs> For some reason my iptables rulesets stop me from using hostgators cpanel, so I need to take it down every time I connect to hostgator...
[09:51] <alpha> How do I make a diff between two folders (including subfolders) and get a list of which files are in one folder but not the other?
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> bobdobbs: why not add a rule to allow the traffic, then you can keep the firewall up
[09:52] <bobdobbs> but I kept finding that while I was connected to my cpanel, the cpanel would stop being responsive. So I'd do 'iptables -L', and there was suddenly a ruleset, from out of nowhere.
[09:53] <th0r> bobdobbs: did you use gufw to define the firewall in the first place?
[09:53] <bobdobbs> ActionParsnip: because adding and removing rules via ufw seemed to be unreliable
[09:53] <bobdobbs> th0r: no
[09:53] <bobdobbs> initially, I was using ufw to add allow and deny rules.
[09:54] <bobdobbs> but the rules wouldn't always take effect
[09:54] <dubs__> hi again, if i want to install windows on second hd and not mess with ubuntu on first what is best way?
[09:54] <bobdobbs> Like, I was trying to allow the use of the port that my hosts cpanel uses to connect to my browser
[09:54] <bobdobbs> and I tried 'ufw allow 22', as well, to allow ssh
[09:55] <bobdobbs> but, those commands weren't effective,
[09:55] <bobdobbs> so I just drop the firewall
[09:55] <bobdobbs> But then, the firewall comes back up, from out of nowhere.
[09:56] <dubs__> anyone?
[09:56] <Unknown_Frequenc> hello! Is there a way to change the terminal name into the name of the file your working on (in vim in my case)
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> dubs__: just go for it, the windows boot loader will be added to the other drive, the BIOS will still point to the Ubuntu drive and you can add windows to Grub after the install
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> dubs__: try having patience, somebody will answer
[09:57] <dubs__> ActionParsnip: cool thx
[09:58] <bobdobbs> the firewall also doesn't allow my computer to icmp traffic... which is very inconvenient
[09:58] <VictorCl2> hi, how can I access a share folder on a windows machine from ubuntu 11 ?
[09:58] <bobdobbs> ufw wouldn't allow me to allow icmp traffic
[09:58] <dubs__> sry :o)
[09:58] <bobdobbs> So I need the firewall down sometimes
[09:59] <cypha> how do I unmount something?
[10:00] <bobdobbs> I dropped my fw about ten minutes ago, and it's come up by itself already
[10:00] <bobdobbs> this makes me sad
[10:00] <glebihan> cypha, use "umount"
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> cypha: sudo umount /mount/point
[10:00] <bobdobbs> zombie firewell
[10:00] <th0r> bobdobbs: I would try deleting the rules using ufw. I suspect ufw has the ruleset stored somewhere and is the culprit resetting the firewall. Also, have you checked to see if ufw is running as a process?
[10:00] <bobdobbs> ah, no.
[10:00] <bobdobbs> thanks... I'll look into that.
[10:01] <bobdobbs> no, ufw is not running as a  process
[10:01] <zertyui> hello
[10:01] <cypha> ActionParsnip, it says umount: /mnt: device is busy
[10:01] <th0r> bobdobbs: I never used ufw so this is just conjecture
[10:02] <bobdobbs> Well, I'm ripping it out in case it is the culprit
[10:02] <cypha> ActionParsnip, it's a shared folder with my Windows Host
[10:02] <bobdobbs> 'apt-get purge ufw'
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> cypha: do you have any files open which ae in that folder, is your pwd in that folder?
[10:02] <cypha> nope
[10:03] <zertyui> if i do cat /var/log/messages i got list of info with it representative date and my question is how to grep to a specific date ?
[10:03] <VictorCl2> why isnt smbclient installed by default?
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> cypha: try:  lsof | grep mnt
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> VictorCl2: it is
[10:04] <cypha> cwd   DIR    8,1   4096
[10:04] <cypha> bash lsof grep and lsof
[10:05] <bobdobbs> hm... it did it again.
[10:05] <bobdobbs> I tore out ufw, and dropped my firewall with 'iptables -F'
[10:05] <bobdobbs> and the firewall started again
[10:05] <A_J> Hey All can som1 tell me how i can fix my movie player it crashes when i try to open a dvd
[10:05] <drudge01> sudo apt-get install vlc
[10:06] <A_J> drudge01, for me
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> A_J: does it happen in all apps?
[10:06] <dr-willis> A_J:  you did install the decss stuff like the dvd guide mentions?
[10:06] <A_J> oh hai ActionParsnip. no just movie player
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> A_J: thought to try another...
[10:07] <th0r> bobdobbs: is there perhaps a cron script running? I know when I configured iptables ages back I had to write a script for bootup to install all the rules. Haven't messed with it in years so not sure now
[10:07] <drudge01> im gonna be in the UK in 2 weeks bitches!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:07] <A_J> ActionParsnip, well VLC is not running. I had told you why if you can remember
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> drudge01: been here all my life, it's not that exciting ;)
[10:07] <qin> zertyui: grep hh:mm /var/log/messages
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> A_J: try it, see if it is all apps, or just totem
[10:07] <g0th> can anyone help me: how do I setup 3d vision in linux?
[10:07] <drudge01> actionParsnip: im coming from South Africa
[10:07] <bobdobbs> ActionParsnip: unlikely.
[10:07] <g0th> I have an nvidia geforce gtx 260
[10:07] <bobdobbs> I'll have a look though
[10:08] <cypha> ActionParsnip, it worked, thank you
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> cypha: sweet
[10:08] <A_J> it's just movie player. vlc has other issues. when i keep the pc on for a long time, the display doesnt work after a while
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> bobdobbs: its good to explore
[10:08] <VictorCl2> http://i.imgur.com/VMkk2.gif
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> A_J: did you install the dvd decoder?
[10:08] <fossala> Can anyone reference me to an artical on mutitouch trackpads in ubuntu/unity
[10:08] <drudge01> ActionParnsip: where in england u from?
[10:09] <A_J> yes ActionParsnip
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> drudge01: leeds
[10:09] <th0r> bobdobbs: I am working on the assumption the machine does as it's told. I don't think iptables has any ability to resurrect itself, so something else must be doing it
[10:09] <sunit_> I am getting Exception in thread "main" java.awt.HeadlessException in lucid when running jasper ireport. please see http://dpaste.com/602495/
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> A_J: does it happen a another user
[10:09] <A_J> yes all users
[10:09] <drudge01> ActionParsnip: im going to Lake District :D then to New Quay
[10:09] <A_J> perhaps a reinstall ActionParsnip ?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> A_J: hmm, try running the app from terminal, the output may be useful
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> drudge01: lakes is niiice :)
[10:10] <drudge01> ActionParsnip: What is affordable internet i can go?
[10:10] <drudge01> 3G?
[10:10] <A_J> vlc or movie player ActionParsnip ?
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> drudge01: 3G is fine
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> A_J: either
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> A_J: or even both
[10:10] <dr-willis> and mplayer. ;)
[10:11] <g0th> how do I set the refresh rate of my monitor to 120Hz?
[10:11] <iceroot_> what is a process in top using []? what is the difference to a process without []?
[10:11] <A_J> no ActionParsnip. I had told you a while back, after keeping pc on for a day the display module of vlc i think crashes
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> A_J: then just run totem, see how it goes
[10:11] <g0th> I have an nvidia geforce gtx 260 graphics card, i.e. nvidia-settings
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> g0th: should be in nvidia-settings
[10:12] <daedra> hello, I would like to set my iPod up for use with gtkpod. How do you do this?
[10:12] <daedra> I have a 2nd gen shuffle, and it /used/ to work with gtkpod. However, now it only charges by USB and does not show up in /dev
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> A_J: could install gnome-mplayer and try that too.
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> !info ifuse | daedra
[10:13] <A_J> ActionParsnip, :http://pastebin.com/hrRxpBfS
[10:13] <g0th> ActionParship: it doesn't allow me to select 120Hz?
[10:13] <g0th> ActionParship: only up to 60, does this depend on the hdmi cable?
[10:17] <th0r> bobdobbs: try this....issue the iptables --flush, then 'service iptables save'. See if that keeps it from resetting
[10:18] <user> Gooday all, what trouble do we have today with Ubuntu. I can tell you I've got plenty today. How can I re-update the last kernel?
[10:18] <bobdobbs> th0r: will do. thanks.
[10:18] <g0th> anyone?
[10:18] <th0r> bobdobbs: but that will erase the rules, so make sure you have a way to retrieve them
[10:19] <bobdobbs> is 'service iptables save' a frontend for 'iptables-save' ?
[10:19] <daxu> hi somebody can help me
[10:19] <user> daxu: I'll try
[10:19] <daxu> can u help me,download Sun Java Wireless Toolkit
[10:20] <VectorX> hi, i am interested in setting up a multiseat setup, is there a place that explains some scenarios, like images that can be loaded for specific users, ie, programers will have programming apps, graphics people will have there stuff, so when you create a new user account it will have what ever apps for the user ?
[10:20] <th0r> bobdobbs:  I believe they do the same thing. Here is what I am looking at...seems Centos might have some good info on iptables operation...http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.1/Deployment_Guide/s1-iptables-saving.html
[10:20] <daxu> and send to my email
[10:20] <oCean> !details daxu
[10:20] <oCean> !details | daxu
[10:21] <th0r> bobdobbs: from that page, maybe 'service iptables stop' would work
[10:21] <th0r> bobdobbs: it indicates a difference between the iptables command and the iptables service
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> g0th: you could run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig; gksudo nvidia-settings    set a resolution and a refresh rate in the app and click "Save to X config file" then run:  gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   and change the refresh rate there
[10:21] <dr-willis> VectorX:  not seen any guides on setting up custome sessiins like that. it could be doable with custom changes to the users configs.
[10:21] <bobdobbs> th0r: I have an interesting relationship with iptables. I feel like an abused spouse with recurrent amnesia
[10:21] <daxu> i have a problem with Sun Java Wireless Toolkit ,i can not download it ,can somebody download and send to my email :daxubb@163.com.thank u very much
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> A_J: any bugs reported with /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 ?
[10:22] <VectorX> dr-willis ic\
[10:22] <th0r> bobdobbs: it has been years, but I recall that once I figured it out it was nice, but it took a bit to learn how to control it
[10:22] <A_J> ActionParsnip, not sure
[10:22] <bobdobbs> Like, it beats me around, so I deal with it. Problem sorted, I forget about it... then, a few months down the track, it becomes problematic again, so I have to relearn it to figure out the how to solve the problem
[10:22] <user> daxu: I'll try t download that
[10:22] <zertyui> thanks qin
[10:22] <zertyui> thanks qin
[10:22] <g0th> ActionParsnip: I don't trust the "save to X config file" option
[10:23] <bobdobbs> Does that make me a recurrent amnesiac, or a recurrent expert?
[10:23] <oCean> daxu: how is that an ubuntu issue?
[10:23] <th0r> bobdobbs: one thing that made life easier was to use a text file in ~ for the rules, and tell iptables to read it. That way looking at and editing rules was easy. I just -F and then -L
[10:23] <daxu> thank you user
[10:23] <g0th> ActionParsnip: can you maybe give me the correct line in the configuration file?
[10:23] <daxu> 11.04 i use
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> g0th: you'll see it, the file is very readable
[10:23] <oCean> daxu: yes, but your download problem
[10:23] <g0th> I dont see a refresh rate anywhere there
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> g0th: look in the monitor and screen sections
[10:23] <rectec794613> hi just a general question about ram. Will using less memory improve performance? Will it use less electricity?
[10:24] <bobdobbs> th0r: in a way, saving config's for iptables is a part of the problem... because saves ruleset let you forget how iptables actually works :0
[10:24] <daxu> i live in china ,in here i can not download it
[10:24] <g0th> ActionParsnip: I dont see it
[10:24] <g0th> hmm, xorg.conf is soooo small
[10:24] <g0th> it used to be like 20 times bigger
[10:24] <dr-willis> rectec794613:  i would doubt if it would
[10:24] <g0th> wth is going on?
[10:24] <user> daxu: My browser is just broken at the moment...now waiting for the download
[10:24] <oCean> rectec794613: try ##hardware channel for general discussion
[10:25] <daedra> ActionParsnip: googling ifuse gives: "libimobiledevice: Teaching Penguins to talk to fruits"
[10:25] <bullgard4_> mc shows the timestamp of a file valid at the time when mc has displayed the directory of that file. Is there a key combination to update the displayed timestamps of the files in the current directory?
[10:25] <daedra> greatest. tagline. ever.
[10:25] <th0r> bobdobbs: well, like I said, I would just empty iptables and then tell it to reread the file. Only had to remember two commands, and could sit in front of a text editor tinkering with a new rule at my leisure
[10:25] <rectec794613> oCean: ok just thought i could get a quick answer here while it's on my mind
[10:25] <Hadoken> hi people
[10:25] <oCean> rectec794613: no problem, but we try to keep this channel on topic.
[10:26] <dr-willis> bullgard4:  you mean reload or refresh the listing? ctrl l. perhaps
[10:26] <Hadoken> kernel: [27326.778969] mysqld[6839]: segfault at 328 ip 00007f4ee62811bd sp 00007f4ddef81820 error 4 in libpthread-2.11.2.so[7f4ee6275000+17000] anyone knows this error is about?
[10:26] <A_J> ActionParsnip, any idea how to fix vlc
[10:26] <th0r> bobdobbs: I remember now....I wrote up a script with the individual iptables commands and kept it in ~. I would -F and then run that script, which reentered the rules one by one.
[10:28] <bobdobbs> th0r: I discovered that an old site I used to use to generate rules is still online (after all these years). I used it to generate a ruleset, and I saved the ruleset.
[10:29] <bobdobbs> I loaded the ruleset a few minutes ago, and so far the rules haven't reverted...
[10:29] <bobdobbs> I'm still
[10:29] <bobdobbs> still able to see my hosts cpanel and use ssh to get in to the troublesome computer.
[10:29] <bobdobbs> th0r: that was the other problem. Douchebag firewall was blocking ssh.
[10:30] <th0r> bobdobbs: well, I wouldn't blame iptables itself. After I figured out how to handle it I found iptables to be very nice...much more efficient than any other firewall I ever used
[10:30] <bobdobbs> th0r: true
[10:30] <bobdobbs> interesting.
[10:31] <bobdobbs> Yeah, I don't blame iptables.
[10:31] <bobdobbs> I was about to start blaming ubuntu for maybe doing something unconventional perhaps, that I couldn't see.
[10:31] <bobdobbs> but, I'm not sure what it is/was
[10:31] <stalkers> I just restarted my server 11.04 and it installed some updates, now after the restart I cant access the internet, any one know why?
[10:31] <th0r> bobdobbs: that was a thought nagging at me as well <smile>.
[10:32] <bobdobbs> hehe :)
[10:32] <user> My browser STILL doesn't work. Can anyone tell me what files Google Chrome & Chromium are using
[10:32] <bobdobbs> Yeah. I like ubuntu. But's it's funny like that sometimes.
[10:32] <bobdobbs> user: lsof ?
[10:32] <user> lsof?
[10:32] <th0r> bobdobbs: well, that is what sent me to debian eventually
[10:33] <airtonix> user: excellent bug report there old chap... not much we can do with such vague reports
[10:33] <bobdobbs> user: I think you can use lsof to see which files are being accessed by which program. If that's what you want to do.
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> A_J: what version do you have and what release do you have?
[10:33] <bobdobbs> th0r: I see
[10:33] <Arthur7x> Could somebody explain me how to make my micro works well on Skype? It works now when I try to record my voice on Audacity, but that's because I chose the cam option, so it also record my voices (the cam comes with micro), but on skype it only displays pulseaudio, could somebody tell me what to do please :( ? thanks
[10:33] <A_J> the latest version ActionParsnip.
[10:33] <airtonix> a: "whats wrong?" b: "it doesn't work" a: "..."
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> user: files in what way?
[10:33] <bobdobbs> th0r: I used to use debian years ago, but I was on 'stable', and so GIMP was always outdated.
[10:34] <bobdobbs> th0r: I switched to 'unstable'...
[10:34] <bobdobbs> never again!
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> A_J: what is the output of:  apt-cache policy vlc; cat /etc/lsb-release      use a pastebin to host
[10:34] <th0r> bobdobbs: well, I was brought up old school and would have no problem compiling from source if I really needed something up to date. But in retirement I only need something that works
[10:34] <bobdobbs> understood
[10:35] <user> Google Chrome & Chromium are working fine..UNTIL I search with Google and I get a result which include mulitiple results under on site
[10:35] <A_J> ActionParsnip, : http://pastebin.com/yhh9nhm3
[10:35] <Arthur7x> Could somebody help me? I've installed Skype and micro doesn't seems to be working. I had to chose an option on Audacity (the cam comes with a microphone, so I selected it on input) but that option isn't displayed in Skype Settings. Please, I really need somebody ): thanks
[10:35] <bobdobbs> th0r: I started on distro's that you installed without a gui. Kind of a psudeo-gui from what I remember.
[10:35] <bobdobbs> th0r: So, I learnt a lot.
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> A_J: you are using a PP, which we cannot support.
[10:36] <th0r> bobdobbs: gui? I started with slackware 1.0 on a 386 machine <smile> We didn't know how to spell 'gui'
[10:36] <Arthur7x> Could somebody help me? I've installed Skype and micro doesn't seems to be working. I had to chose an option on Audacity (the cam comes with a microphone, so I selected it on input) but that option isn't displayed in Skype Settings. Please, I really need somebody ): thanks
[10:36] <bobdobbs> th0r: redhat made me dumb. That and ubuntu do so much thinking for you, that I've forgotten a lot of fundamentals
[10:36] <A_J> ActionParsnip, well you linked to the PP
[10:36] <yrg> http://search.cpan.org/~chrmue/Socket-Class-2.256/Class.pod <-- Is this packaged in Ubuntu?
[10:36] <bobdobbs> th0r: heheheh
[10:36] <A_J> cause the normal version was not working ActionParsnip
[10:36] <user> For example. If I do a search for cat & dogs then I get single listings. BUT if I do a search for Webupd8 then I get multiple results under their listings. THAT stalls Chrome & Chromium
[10:37] <th0r> bobdobbs: well, Irene is about to start making my life interesting so time to get off the boat and find shelter. Good luck with the firewall
[10:37] <bobdobbs> th0r: thanks. Enjoy the weekend :)
[10:37] <bobdobbs> th0
[10:37] <bobdobbs> th0r: and stay safe
[10:38] <p1l0t> sup
[10:38] <A_J> sup
[10:38] <Arthur7x> Could somebody help me? I've installed Skype and micro doesn't seems to be working. I had to chose an option on Audacity (the cam comes with a microphone, so I selected it on input) but that option isn't displayed in Skype Settings. Please, I really need somebody ): thanks T_T
[10:38] <user> Maybe I should just delete or scrap Ubuntu. Maybe that will solve my problems
[10:39] <jrib> user: please stick to support
[10:39] <p1l0t> user: And what use Windows PFFT
[10:39] <user> Windos can tel me what files are missing
[10:39] <p1l0t> user: They will tell you to call india who will tell you to buy something
[10:40] <VectorX> dr-willis in a multiseat, does each user have their own ip address ?\
[10:40] <jrib> !skype | Arthur7x
[10:40] <p1l0t> Predatory Proprietary Vendors
[10:40] <jrib> Arthur7x: try the troubleshooting link in the first page ubottu links
[10:41] <jrib> Arthur7x: ubottu gave you a link, click it, then click the link to troubleshooting.  It works through some common audio issues
[10:41] <stalkers> I just restarted my server 11.04 and it installed some updates, now after the restart I cant access the internet, any one know why?
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> stalkers: can you ping 8.8.8.8
[10:41] <daedra> hurm
[10:42] <daedra> ActionParsnip: I've had no luck after installing iFuse
[10:42] <daedra> also, cool IRC nick
[10:43] <stalkers> ActionParsnip it just gives me "From 192.254.8.194 icmp_seq=2 destination host Unreachable"
[10:44] <dr-willis> VectorX:  if you are referint to a multi monitir/key/mouse on a single pc.. no.
[10:45] <user> Did anyone get a kernel update today? Around 30MB
[10:45] <hoshi411> anyone recommend software that can fix a video with out of sync audio?
[10:45] <user> hoshi411: VLC
[10:45] <jrib> user: why?  Check packages.ubuntu.com for current package versions
[10:45] <VectorX> dr-willis yes that is what i am refering to
[10:46] <Someguy2|Home> When will 11.10 get RTM?
[10:46] <jrib> !11.10 | Someguy2|Home
[10:46] <user> jrib: I tried t delete my kernel to reload it or update it agian.
[10:47] <jrib> user: why...?
[10:47] <Amaranth> Someguy2|Home: oct 13th
[10:47] <Someguy2|Home> soo long
[10:47] <Someguy2|Home> but whats the current stage?
[10:47] <Arthur7x> Thank you so much guys, it works now :)
[10:48] <hoshi411> user: VLC just lets me watch it fixed right? it can't actually correct the audio right?
[10:48] <user> jrib: 2 days ago I did an kernel update. After that I uninstalled something that is required by Google Chrome. Now my browser is broken
[10:48] <Amaranth> Someguy2|Home: Alpha 3, Beta 1 is Sep 1
[10:48] <jrib> user: what is the "something"?
[10:48] <jnsl_> i just installed safari with wine, but i get a blank screen where pages are suppose to be shown
[10:48] <jrib> jnsl_: why don't you use one of the many native linux browsers?
[10:48] <Arthur7x> Thank you jrib and ubottu for helping me :)
[10:48] <jrib> Arthur7x: no problem :D
[10:49] <user> jrib: Thats the problem I don't know. The only way to get that back is to redo the last kernel update
[10:49] <jnsl_> jriv i develop websites and need to test sites in different browsers, i use firefox
[10:49] <jnsl_> jrib * :)
[10:49] <jrib> user: why did you remove it?  How did it get removed?
[10:49] <yrg> http://search.cpan.org/~chrmue/Socket-Class-2.256/Class.pod <-- Is this packaged in Ubuntu? (Perl's Socket::Class)
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> jnsl_: http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/03/howto-install-safari-on-ubuntu-with.html
[10:49] <jrib> jnsl_: check appdb.winehq.org
[10:50] <jrib> jnsl_: if you can't get it to work in wine, consider using a vm with windows instead
[10:50] <jnsl_> aye
[10:50] <user> jrib: It install all these crape like "Mines" and stuff so I uninstalled via the software centre.
[10:51] <jnsl_> might have to make a vm for each safari and ie :(
[10:51] <jrib> user: Mines?
[10:51] <Hoyt> hi , what's a recommended DVD burner ?
[10:51] <Hoyt> xfburn doesn't recognize my 4.5G ISO image and a 4.7G DVD-R
[10:51] <user> jrib: The game plus other software which I don't need
[10:51] <yrg> brasero?
[10:51] <yrg> Hoyt: brasero?
[10:52] <Hoyt> yrg: installing , i'll take a shot
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Hoyt: did you MD5 test the ISO?
[10:52] <jrib> user: what action did you take that prompted this?
[10:52] <yrg> Hoyt: ok
[10:52] <daedra> anyone got their iPod docking successfully in 11.04?
[10:52] <Hoyt> ActionParsnip: no , i modified a ISO image with isomaster
[10:52] <daedra> if so, how did you get it working?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Hoyt: i see
[10:53] <user> jrib: Do you mean what my problem is?
[10:53] <daedra> damn you ipod shuffle! it's not even showing up in dmesg
[10:54] <Hoyt> Wired , my disc says it has 4.7GB space , while brasero only recognize it as 4.4 GB
[10:54] <daedra> but it charges when I plug it in via USB
[10:54] <auronandace> user: i think he wants to know how you uninstalled the software
[10:54] <jrib> user: well you gave some vague description above about how chrome behavior changed after some package was removed.  I'm trying to understand what package was removed by determining how/why it was removed.  Thus why I am asking you what action you took that removed the package
[10:55] <daedra> damnit
[10:56] <user> jrib: I had Google Chrome installed and later I did an update and saw that Chromium was installed so I removed that plus other related sottware from the software entre
[10:57] <jrib> user: what is "that and other related software"?
[10:57] <bullgard4_> dr-willis: I have found three statements for 'Ctrl+L': i.) Currently Ctrl+L is used to refresh the screen. ii.) Ctrl+L will repaint the screen. iii.)Ctrl+L = Refresh. What does that mean precisely? Probably not to take a sip out of a Coca Cola bottle.
[10:57] <user> jrib: I'm not sure anymore...I have been removing and updating software for n week now to get this sloved
[10:58] <auronandace> user: sounds like you've removed dependancies that you didn't realise you needed
[10:59] <user> jrib: How do I get that back?
[10:59] <dr-willis> bullgard4:  redraws the screen
[10:59] <jrib> user: I don't know what "that" is
[10:59] <auronandace> user: if you don't know what you've removed it would be better to start anew with a fresh install
[11:00] <bullgard4_> dr-willis: But my intention is not to redraw the screen image but to update the data displayed. Can you see the difference?
[11:00] <user> jrib: I think is must be related to diplaying HTML5 page result that stalls Chrome
[11:01] <daedra> Hello, I have an interesting problem: iPod 2nd gen shuffle 4GB used to mount and work with gtkpod in ubuntu 11.04, now it doesn't even show up in dmesg when docked. However, it does charge.
[11:01] <dr-willis> bullgard4:  it may do both. never noticed.  check the man page perhaps
[11:01] <wilder> What's up chickens
[11:01] <daedra> AFAIK nothink has changed in my system, but the iPod may have changed. Has anyone experienced this?
[11:01] <bullgard4_> dr-willis: Thank you.
[11:02] <user> How do I refresh my taskbar menu to show an Icon?
[11:03] <jwalker> can anybody help me with enabling aladdin etoken on ubuntu...
[11:04] <user> auronandace: If I have to reinstall then I'll rather go back to Windows. With Windows I only need to reinstall with Virus related issues.
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> daedra: it will charge due to the +5v line on the USB.
[11:04] <nunne> having problems with mdadm.. just created a node /dev/md0 and everything worked, mounted it etc.. after reboot it was gone (probably misconfigured mdadm.conf)... but when trying to create it again with the same mdadm --create -command i get /dev/sdb1 not suitable for any style of array
[11:04] <nunne> what gives? :/
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> daedra: does it mount in a different OS?
[11:04] <stalkers> ActionParsnip any idea what my problem might be?
[11:05] <user> How do I refresh the Taskbar Menu to show Icons
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> stalkers: about what?
[11:07] <stalkers> ActionParsnip you told me to ping 8.8.8.8, and I wrote. ActionParsnip it just gives me "From 192.254.8.194 icmp_seq=2 destination host Unreachable"
[11:08] <nunne> ahh, found it.. ubuntu has named my md-device something totally different from my mdadm.conf :)
[11:08] <user> I JUST FIXED THE PROBLEM AFTER A WEEK OF STRUGGLE...YIPPEEEEE
[11:08] <daedra> ActionParsnip: I have tried in 3 types of Linux
[11:09] <daedra> ActionParsnip: unfortunately I have no other OS available to test
[11:09] <auronandace> !yay | user
[11:09] <hakermania> !rtfm
[11:09] <daedra> !boo | daed
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> stalkers: could be route related, or IP related. Does the interface have an IP address?
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> daedra: sounds like a damaged device, when you last unplugged it, what steps did you take?
[11:11] <ninoz> hey, i have a xvnc4 server running and i cant remember how i started it at boot, looked in xinetd and init.d but nothing obvious, can i track the calling script using the PID?
[11:12] <Peping> hello. I have a Lenovo V560 with a new hard drive. The laptop comes with a Broadcom Wi-Fi. The problem is that when I installed Ubuntu 11.04 (i tried twice, once using Wubi next to Windows 7, once to a separate partition), the WiFi stops working on *both* systems. Is it possible, that Ubuntu install is messing with BIOS? The first time i had to solve it through a re
[11:12] <Peping> -install of Windows 7
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> Peping: do you hibernate the Windows OS?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> Peping: or the Ubuntu OS?
[11:13] <Peping> ActionParsnip: Not usually
[11:13] <daedra> AlexC_: unfortunately it's my grandad's and I wasn't there to see him bork it. It's linux 2.6.38
[11:13] <Peping> ActionParsnip: I did not when installing Ubuntu
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> Peping: is there a switch to enable/disable the device?
[11:15] <Peping> ActionParsnip: Yes, and it seems like Windows registers it correctly - that is it registers correctly the state of the switch, but it does not affect the state of Wi-Fi, which seems to be "turned off" in either position of the switch
[11:16] <Peping> ActionParsnip: The main thing that bugs me though is how is it possible that it stopped working in Windows? Right after installing Ubuntu.
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> Peping: disable Windows' ability to power manage the device, also turn of Windows' ability to be woken up by the device (all in device manager)
[11:19] <user_758> ***Attention*** Firefox Users = If you ever what to use Google Chrome or Chromium. Please rememnber to uninstall "Ad-Block Plus" That just F@cksup all Google Browsers
[11:19] <Peping> ActionParsnip: Done, should I restart now?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Peping: sure, see how it goes
[11:20] <auronandace> user_758: works here for me (firefox and chromium)
[11:21] <JWay> i5 intel hd graphics, ubuntu 11.04 - constantly there is tearing in youtube videos and mkv videos. Like vsync is disabled?
[11:22] <user_758> auronandace: Do me a favour. With Chromum go to Google.com and search Webupd8 and press enter. Wait for 5 seconds
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> JWay: can you give the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep "flash|gnash|swf"
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> JWay: use a pastebin to host
[11:23] <Peping> ActionParsnip: Nothing changed. I have an idea though. When I was installing Windows onto the new hard drive, I've noticed that a lot of the drivers on Lenovo's website were out of date... I'm going to check this now.
[11:23] <auronandace> user_758: done
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> Peping: if you run:  sudo lshw -C network    do you see the device?
[11:23] <user_758> auronandace: What version Ubutnu are you using?
[11:23] <auronandace> user_758: what happens for you?
[11:24] <auronandace> user_758: 11.04 xubuntu
[11:24] <JWay> ActionParsnip, , sure -> http://pastebin.com/AjBN4u7i
[11:24] <user_758> auronandace: Google Chrome & Chromium stalls when I did that. Now it's fixed
[11:24] <user_758> I'm on Ubuntu 10.10
[11:24] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys, can anyone please tel me how i can find out if my distribution is strictly the server one or if it does have a gui
[11:24] <Wiz_KeeD> i'm in 10.10 too
[11:24] <Peping> ActionParsnip: That's the other problem that I'll be solving later. I may have messed up installing GRUB, Windows bootloader seems to still be the default. Now I'm going to try to fix Windows :)
[11:25] <JWay> ActionParsnip, happens in vlc also when playing mkv files
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> JWay: try: sudo dpkg -P flashplugin64-installer; sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree flashplugin-installer; sudo apt-get install flashplugin64-installer
[11:25] <user_758> auronandace: whats diffrent in Xubuntu compared to Ubuntu?
[11:25] <auronandace> user_758: xfce instead of gnome or unity
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> user_758: it uses XFCE and lighter apps, rather than Gnome
[11:26] <dageriv> I am trying to create 1000 threads with pthread_create, the the 380th thread creation always fails. (sometimes it fails on 379). is this some limit in ubuntu?
[11:26] <user_758> Is it more user friendly? Or should I stay with buntu for that?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> user_758: depends, sometimes yes, sometimes no. Smae with any DE
[11:27] <user_758> How do I refresh my Icons in my taskbar
[11:27] <auronandace> user_758: depends on what you like, I don't like unity's interface and I've never liked gnome2 (and especially don't like gnome3)
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> unity runs in gnome2 on natty
[11:28] <user_758> auronandace: It just seems that most apps are for gnome
[11:28] <JWay> ActionParsnip, done still tearing. Do I need to reboot? My xorg.conf is here http://pastebin.com/pxrpxhLN - does it need more info on setting the monitor refresh rate? it is a laptop.
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> JWay: no, this isn't windows
[11:29] <JWay> :)
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> JWay: not sure otherwise man, you have 64bit flash to match your 64bit OS though :)
[11:29] <auronandace> user_758: I like gtk apps over qt and xfce uses gtk (just like gnome)
[11:29] <JWay> ActionParsnip, okay thanks anyway
[11:29] <auronandace> user_758: anything that works in gnome works in xfce
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> you can run KDE apps in XFCE too...
[11:31] <bullgard4_> What actions will cahnge the contents of the file /var/lib/dpkg/status?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4_: upgrades/installs and removals
[11:32] <user_758> Can I run Compiz in xfce? I like the effects
[11:32] <auronandace> user_758: yes
[11:34] <user_758> Can anyone tell me how to refresh icons listing in taskbar!
[11:34] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone?
[11:34] <dr-willis> in xfce?
[11:35] <dr-willis> and clarify what icon listing means.
[11:40] <Theishi> I am having trouble sending emails. I am trying to use exim4 and after running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config', I get an error message about paniclog containing errors. Paniclog says something about 'socket bind' port 25, and localhost already in use
[11:42] <bullgard4_> ActionParsnip: I have removed a tab in my Firefox. The output of '/var/lib/dpkg$ stat status' has not changed.
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4_: yes, you haven't uninstalled firefox, a tab in firefox will not alter that file
[11:44] <Aldus> Hi. Trying to activate an iPad on my ubuntu laptop and following this tutorial: http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/185-ubuntu-ipad-activate I get stuck at one point where i have to do: ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr  .... It says "no package libusbmuxd found"
[11:44] <Aldus> "Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
[11:44] <Aldus> installed software in a non-standard prefix."
[11:44] <daedra> Hello, I have an interesting problem: iPod 2nd gen shuffle 4GB used to mount and work with gtkpod in 3 linux distros, and it now only shows up in dmesg.
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> !find libusbmuxd
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> Aldus: install libusbmuxd-dev
[11:45] <Aldus> ActionParsnip, great.
[11:45] <Aldus> ActionParsnip, however installing it didn't change the error
[11:45] <bullgard4_> ActionParsnip: But you said: "removals will change the contents of the file /var/lib/dpkg/status.
[11:46] <bullgard4_> "
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4_: yes, of packages. Think about what dpkg command does ;)
[11:46] <Aldus> ActionParsnip, ok, fixed it :) now next package
[11:46] <Aldus> libplist
[11:46] <Aldus> there are plenty of them
[11:52] <delinquentme> hey all im doing a brand new install and im wondering about this screen here http://cache.techie-buzz.com/images/posts/Screenshot-Edit%20partition.jpg <<  if I have a windows 7 partition sitting next to my ubuntu partition .. are these the right settings?
[11:53] <theadmin> delinquentme: That looks right for the / partition, yes, however please do note that I can't tell anything about your Windows 7 partition from this
[11:53] <delinquentme> specifically im after what the correct mount point
[11:53] <Peping> ActionParsnip: Oh, looks like I solved it in windows... It was turned off in a way I didn't expect. I found some sewer drivers though, so I'm glad I did this.
[11:53] <theadmin> delinquentme: / is correct.
[11:53] <Peping> ActionParsnip: Thanks for help, imma solve the grub problem now :)
[11:53] <delinquentme> theadmin: could you explain what that means?
[11:54] <bubu> hi guys, could anyone advise on best way to duplicate users/groups on different servers? rsync?
[11:54] <theadmin> delinquentme: Well, the Linux filesystem is a bit... weird. / is the root directory, meaning everything resides there
[11:54] <delinquentme> oh ok so its mouning the partition at that dir
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> delinquentme: you can mount anywhere you wish except in /proc
[11:55] <w_> good morning. can anybody help me to type a command in ubuntu to find out my video board model?
[11:55] <delinquentme> ok awesome
[11:55] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Or /dev... I wouldn't suggest mounting anything on /dev
[11:55] <theadmin> w_: inxi -G
[11:55] <delinquentme> type of new partition? primary or logical?
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> delinquentme: if you are instaling you need at least one partition assigned to / to store the system files
[11:55] <delinquentme> primary bc i want grub managing the boot?
[11:55] <theadmin> delinquentme: Should be primary
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: oh that'd be fun
[11:56] <daedra> Hello, I have an interesting problem: iPod 2nd gen shuffle 4GB used to mount and work with gtkpod in 3 linux distros, and it now only shows up in dmesg.
[11:56] <delinquentme> awesome
[11:56] <daedra> (note, this has changed to now being recognised in dmesg)
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> daedra: if you run:  sudo fdisk -l    does it show up?
[12:00] <Guest35100> Подскажите как мне выставить ограничение скорости на интернете ?
[12:00] <ultrixx> Guest35100: CCCP?
[12:00] <theadmin> !ru | Guest35100
[12:01] <Guest35100> Мне надо ограничить скорость интернета. У меня 4 мб а надо выставить что бы скорость не привышала 1
[12:04] <theadmin> Guest35100: Присоеденитесь к #ubuntu-ru, этот канал англоязычный.
[12:04] <yeshuah> I have a dedicated user account owning / running some code for an app. Is it possible to SU into this account and keep SSH and GIT variables and keys from my own user account?
[12:05] <zertyui> сумасшедшие меня в покое Guest35100
[12:05] <theadmin> yeshuah: su --preserve-environment USERNAME
[12:05] <theadmin> yeshuah: Or, for short, su -p username
[12:05] <bubu> hi guys, could anyone advise on best way to duplicate users/groups on different servers? rsync?
[12:06] <alecat> Hi :)
[12:06] <alecat> I have installed ubuntu 10.10 on a macbook. It's a standalone install, no more mac osx ! It works quite well except a veeeeeery long boot time. What can i do ?
[12:06] <jwalker> can anybody help me with enabling aladdin etoken on linux...
[12:07] <yeshuah> theadmin: doesn this also work with id_rsa.pub keys? I still get permission Denied from github
[12:07] <theadmin> yeshuah: I'm not sure how Git works there
[12:08] <stealz> how can I type symbols that are not on my keyboard in ubuntu?
[12:08] <theadmin> stealz: There is a virtual character map preinstalled, gucharmap
[12:08] <stealz> thanks theadmin
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> alecat: run:  dmesg | less    after a boot, look for long gaps in time on the left hand side
[12:10] <yeshuah> theadmin: It just uses id_rsa.pub to authorize
[12:12] <ninoz> im trying to get VNC running on display :0 but im getting a grey background with and X cursor :S
[12:15] <izinucs> I have a 13gig / partition that seems to be full enough to prevent me from booting correctly or upgrading packages from a root rescue prompt.. I'm open for ideas on how to fix this..
[12:16] <Bundestrojaner> hello
[12:16] <glebihan> izinucs, "apt-get clean" might free up some space
[12:17] <izinucs> glebihan: thanks.. did that but no effect unfortunately
[12:17] <HSarena> hi... I have big problem, i don't have toolbar , launcher, desktop theme , desktop wall, i think because of i use compiz
[12:17] <Bundestrojaner> i just installed qtcreator on kubuntu 10.04 lts, but it doesn't start: http://pastebin.com/2bib5pN0
[12:17] <HSarena> plz help me
[12:18] <Bundestrojaner> after the 4 lines, it's in endless loop with 100% cpu load
[12:18] <bubu\a> any ideas how to sync users/groups on natty multiple servers?
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> HSarena: log in to Ubuntu Classic, may help
[12:19] <user_496> Anyone ever used the ***The ~200 Line Linux Kernel Patch That Does Wonders***
[12:20] <Quantum_Ion> huh ?
[12:20] <improveupon> i am about to clone a hard drive dual-booting windows and ubuntu to an external hdd using either dd or clonezilla. t or f: the external drive should be formatted to ext4.
[12:20] <Quantum_Ion> improveupon, Good luck
[12:20] <Bundestrojaner> plz helpo
[12:20] <Quantum_Ion> improveupon, Windows uses NTFS filesystem
[12:21] <bubu\a> anyone help?? ^^^
[12:21] <Quantum_Ion> improveupon, Linux uses EXT3 and EXT4 filesystem
[12:21] <HSarena> ActionParsnip: i have these before but i just use compiz for enable cube for rotate desktop and then i think it's disable desktop wall, i don't know how to enable it
[12:21] <glebihan> izinucs, do you know why your disk is so full ? did you store data on the root partition or is it just packages ?
[12:21] <user_496> Nevermind
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> HSarena: use ccsm
[12:22] <izinucs> glebihan: gotta be packages.. I have a separate /home partition for my stuff.. unless it's because of /var/www/ stuff..
[12:22] <improveupon> right well the image is one file, and i will be restoring it using linux. the image will also be compressed using gzip. (i do not usually clone drives obviously)
[12:22] <HSarena> ActionParsnip: so how to enable unity and desktop other tools
[12:23] <bazhang> HSarena, ccsm
[12:23] <bazhang> !ccsm | HSarena
[12:23] <izinucs> glebihan: no /var/www stuff.. I've got unity and kde loaded.. probably too much for the root.. any idea how to eliminate one when there isn't enough temp space to do the removal?
[12:24] <DeadmanIncJS> !grub
[12:24] <Sargalus> how do I instll tcl on ubuntu 11.04
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> !find tcl
[12:24] <glebihan> izinucs, you might want to try "sudo du -hs /*" to find out what is using all that disc space
[12:24] <bazhang> Sargalus, via the package manager?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> Sargalus: sudo apt-get install tcl
[12:24] <HSarena> bazhang: i use it but i don't know how to enable unity mode
[12:24] <improveupon> thanks anyway
[12:25] <glebihan> izinucs, even with unity and kde it shouldn't use that much spadce
[12:25] <glebihan> *space*
[12:25] <bazhang> HSarena, you need good enough graphics to enable unity mode, and the correct drivers. make sure of that first
[12:25] <sh3rar3> am beginer and i want shorcut keys
[12:25] <izinucs> glebihan: I agree... never had this issue in 6 yrs of running ubuntu..
[12:25] <bazhang> sh3rar3, for what
[12:25] <Sargalus> ActionParsnip: yeah it sys it's already installed yet if I do a search for libtcl.so nothing is found
[12:25] <Sargalus> says*
[12:26] <glebihan> izinucs, did you delete the content of /tp
[12:26] <glebihan>  /tmp
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> !find libtcl.so
[12:26] <Kingsy> anyone had a problem with vlc sound? if you skip through a video the sound goes off? it then take about 5 mins and the sound suddenly starts again?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Sargalus: there you go
[12:26] <Sargalus> ActionParsnip: ty
[12:27] <HSarena> bazhang: i have unity before but i think i disable desktop wall and unity and i lose it and i want to restart that setting
[12:27] <bazhang> HSarena, disabled how. please be very clear.
[12:27] <izinucs> glebihan: I'll look.. I'm running off a live cd right now and have mounted the /
[12:28] <HSarena> bazhang: i use compiz option to use desktop cube and then i lose my toolbar,unity,launcher,....
[12:28] <NoobHaxor> hey guys
[12:29] <HSarena> bazhang: i wanna it's back like first
[12:29] <HSarena> bazhang: plz help me
[12:30] <bazhang> HSarena, how did you disable it. you have not answered that
[12:30] <Bundestrojaner> i installed qtcreator on kubuntu 10.04 lts, but starting it results in endless loop: http://pastebin.com/2bib5pN0
[12:33] <MN--> hey im wanting to create a computer thats just used as a server so my media pc can stream the moviess stored on it
[12:33] <MN--> whats the best os to use?
[12:33] <izinucs> glebihan: there's a directory /var/spool/cups-pdf/SPOOL that is 3.4 gigs ?? what's that?
[12:33] <bazhang> MN--, this is ubuntu support, what do you expect us to say
[12:34] <bazhang> MN--, look into mediatomb
[12:35] <Sargalus> does ubuntu come with a tempature widget or something to tell you the tempature of your system?
[12:35] <bazhang> !sensors | Sargalus
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> !sensors | Sargalus
[12:35] <bazhang> Sargalus, you can add that to conky if I recall correctly
[12:36] <CarlFK> how do I force a version from my ppa?  https://launchpad.net/~carlfk/+archive/ppa/+packages  I want          dvswitch - 0.9.1-ubuntu1, I am getting 0.9~rc2-ubuntu3
[12:36] <bazhang> HSarena, how did you disable it, and have you got ccsm installed or not
[12:36] <MN--> bazhang i was thinking maybe use ubuntu server thats why
[12:36] <bazhang> MN--, thats fine, there are other options as well (ie cli)
[12:37] <glebihan> izinucs, that looks like the printing queue for the "print to file" fonction
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> MN--: you can use ubuntu server then setup samba shares
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> MN--: any cli distro will do it though if you go that way
[12:37] <perlsyntax> When is ubuntu going to update there perl to perl 5.1.4.1?
[12:37] <iceroot_> perlsyntax: never
[12:37] <Quantum_Ion> lol
[12:37] <izinucs> glebihan: that's what I was thinking. there were 3 files in there taking 3.4 gigs.. that's just huge
[12:37] <perlsyntax> not funny
[12:37] <iceroot_> perlsyntax: you will only get security-updates within one ubuntu-release
[12:38] <glebihan> izinucs, you can delete those files safely
[12:38] <iceroot_> !backports | perlsyntax
[12:38] <glebihan> izinucs, oh guess you did...
[12:38] <izinucs> glebihan: :)
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | perlsyntax try a ppa
[12:38] <Quantum_Ion> perl is not that big of a deal
[12:38] <theeta> Anyone bored enough to help a newbie? :)
[12:38] <glebihan> izinucs, don't know what you tried to print there...
[12:38] <bazhang> theeta, ask the channel
[12:39] <theeta> Well actually i don't know how this happened. But suddenly my only Useraccount is not an admin anymore.
[12:39] <Ray-Tux> hi guys
[12:39] <theeta> I tried rebooting to recovery mode and restoring the /etc/sudoers file. But it said: root not a sudoer.
[12:39] <izinucs> glebihan: whatever it was must have got stuck in a loop or something..
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> theeta: boot to root recovery mode and run:  usermod -a -G admin username
[12:40] <glebihan> izinucs, yes probably
[12:40] <izinucs> glebihan: where is the "root" trash.. what I deleted I need to purge
[12:40] <bais> no way... wubi killed my ubuntu partition :(
[12:41] <theeta> Assuming that will do something, what shall i do next? ( as i said: newbie)
[12:41] <iceroot_> izinucs: there is no trash for root
[12:41] <Quantum_Ion> theeta, How did you manage to screw up your /etc/sudoers file ?
[12:41] <iceroot_> izinucs: trash is also a gui feature and of course you are not starting your gui with root
[12:41] <theeta> I have no f***ing idea
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> theeta: reboot and you will be able to use sudo
[12:41] <bais> there is an expert of wubi online ?
[12:41] <theeta> I rebooted about 25 times now. :(
[12:41] <Quantum_Ion> theeta, You might hve to use your Ubuntu Linux live cd to fix that file
[12:41] <MN--> so is mediatomb the best or is there others?
[12:41] <izinucs> iceroot_: use to be there was a directory that deleted files went to when you did a sudo rm <something>
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> theeta: after running the command I gave, and in the root recovery console??
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> MN--: there is no best anything
[12:42] <glebihan> izinucs, no rm just deletes files
[12:42] <iceroot_> izinucs: no
[12:42] <iceroot_> izinucs: the bash doesnt have a trash
[12:42] <Quantum_Ion> some people are careless when they use rm command
[12:42] <iceroot_> izinucs: so everything deleted with rm is gone
[12:42] <theeta> Well no not after your command. I will try that first. Thanks so far :)
[12:42] <izinucs> glebihan: iceroot_ good.. time to reboot and see if I have enough room to get into the system.
[12:42] <Quantum_Ion> For example, if you do this as root you are fucked rm /
[12:42] <izinucs> glebihan: brb
[12:43] <iceroot_> Quantum_Ion: nothing happening with that
[12:43] <glebihan> izinucs, you might want to try "df -h" first to make sure
[12:43] <izinucs> k
[12:43] <bazhang> Quantum_Ion, dont even joke about that, and no cursing here
[12:43] <orated> Can anyone help me find out why my network management is showing like this - http://imagebin.org/169730 ?
[12:43] <iceroot_> Quantum_Ion: first -r is missing, second, bash has a feature to not delete / directly
[12:43] <orated> even after being connected to network
[12:44] <MN--> okay whats the most recommended to use?
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> orated: are the lights on the nic flashing?
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> MN--: same
[12:44] <izinucs> glebihan: I've now got 2.9 gigs of space.. might be enough to eliminate some packages I've install
[12:44] <glebihan> izinucs, should be
[12:44] <izinucs> brb
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> MN--: I suggest you use samba, your clients will be able to access the shares like windows shares and can stream that way
[12:44] <orated> ActionParsnip: Yeah, packets are sent/received
[12:44] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, he's gone
[12:44] <orated> ActionParsnip: I'm on the same connection
[12:44] <Quantum_Ion> izinucs, You should try install bleachbit it removes files you dont need too and frees up space on your system
[12:46] <orated> ActionParsnip: Moreover, I've no other interface on use
[12:46] <experiMENTAL> hi. i've got sompe problems to autostart my python file on ubuntu. can i get some help here?
[12:47] <experiMENTAL> *some, not sompe (i'm a bit ill today)
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> orated: can you ping websites by name? Can you ping them by IP (8.8.8.8 is a good one to test with)
[12:47] <glebihan> experiMENTAL, what do you mean by autostart ? executing it at the beginning of your session ?
[12:48] <sagaci> experiMENTAL- so what's the problem or are you starting from scratch
[12:48] <orated> ActionParsnip: Yes, 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=1 ttl=54 time=86.4 ms
[12:48] <theeta> Hi again, usermod -a -G admin username did not help. :(
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> orated: can you ping www.bbc.co.uk ?
[12:48] <experiMENTAL> glebihan: yes. my thread is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1829280
[12:48] <orated> duh
[12:48] <Quantum_Ion> theeta, Use your Ubuntu Linux live disk to repair your filesystem
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> orated: ?
[12:48] <delinquentme_> YESSS thanks to you guys im nowww talking on my NEW laptop!!!
[12:48] <Quantum_Ion> theeta, Mount your live disk and copy the /etc/sudoers file over to your corrupted system
[12:48] <orated> ActionParsnip: Yes.
[12:49] <theeta> It'll be enough if i mount the image right?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> theeta: is the user now in the admin group?
[12:49] <theeta> ActionParsnip how do i see that? :(
[12:49] <Quantum_Ion> theeta, Do you have your Ubuntu Live disk ?
[12:49] <delinquentme_> aweso .. so next question .. when were talking hard drives .. ive got a spare .. and id love to stick it in the laptop .. but is there a way to not have it power on unless i tell it to?
[12:49] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> orated: ping to 8.8.8.8 may pss but to names my fail if DNS is failing, so its a perfectlyintelligent question
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> theeta: run:   groups
[12:49] <theeta> Yea I got one (somewhere).
[12:49] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, That's not going to work
[12:50] <orated> ActionParsnip: Yes, it can. I've done this thing
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> orated: a lot of users wil get an IP by DHCP but for some reason they will not get a DNS service given.
[12:50] <glebihan> experiMENTAL, when exactly do you want that file to be executed ? at each start of a shell ?
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: what isn't?
[12:50] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, She is going to have to use her Ubuntu Live disk
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: who will?
[12:50] <theeta> With groups I get username root ........
[12:50] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, theeta
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> Quantum_Ion: I'm talking to 2 people ;)
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> theeta: booting to root recovery mode will do it too ;)
[12:50] <glebihan> experiMENTAL, or at the beginning of the GUI session ?
[12:50] <theeta> Quantum_Ion I just hoped there was another way. :p
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> orated: ok so what is the issue?
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> theeta: why are you logging on as root?
[12:51] <experiMENTAL> glebihan: i want that file to be executed at the beginning of my GUI session. my python file is GUI.
[12:51] <theeta> ActionParsnip I did that and tried your command from the root shell prompt and then rebooted twice. No effect.
[12:51] <Quantum_Ion> ActionParsnip, Tell her to use her Ubuntu Live disk and select try ubuntu linux and mount the filesystem and copy the /etc/sudoers file from the live disk to your corrupted filesystem
[12:51] <glebihan> experiMENTAL, ok then .bash_login is not the right place to put it
[12:51] <theeta> Am I ?
[12:51] <theeta> :E
[12:52] <glebihan> experiMENTAL, why don't you simply use the "startup applications" tool to add your script to the applications started at the beginning of the session ?
[12:52] <Quantum_Ion> theeta, Do you have the Ubuntu Live CD ?
[12:52] <theeta> As I said I'm new to Linux. I just created an account when installing and thought that would be my usual account.
[12:53] <experiMENTAL> startup is not catching it (more details here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1829280&page=3 )
[12:53] <orated> ActionParsnip: I've done ping test. And as I said, I'm connected to IRC through same network. I've no other interface enabled. I saw in System Monitor, it reports received.sent data correctly. But only the network management I showed you above is not working ..
[12:53] <theeta> Quantum_Ion yes and i will try that now. :)
[12:53] <Quantum_Ion> theeta, Since you are new this is going to be kind of tricky
[12:55] <Striker3070> is there a history file somewhere that stores the commands that have been typed on command line in the past?
[12:55] <chavo> Striker3070: .bash_history
[12:55] <delinquentme_> when were talking hard drives .. ive got a spare .. and id love to stick it in the laptop .. but is there a way to not have it power on unless i tell it to?
[12:56] <Striker3070> chavo:, thanks hidden no wonder I could not find
[12:56] <delinquentme_> i just dont think theres a reason to put that HD into use and further degradation unless it needs to be
[12:56] <glebihan> experiMENTAL, looks like the problem is in your script
[12:57] <Striker3070> chavo: can I increase the number of commands it retains in history
[12:58] <experiMENTAL> glebihan: my script is working fine when i doubleclick it.
[12:58] <theeta> So where do I find the /etc/sudoers file on the boot CD?
[12:58] <glebihan> experiMENTAL, yes but that  doesn't set all variables (such as path for example) to the same values as launching it at session start
[12:59] <glebihan> experiMENTAL, did you try launching it from a terminal (and from different paths)
[12:59] <solenzo> hello there
[13:00] <theeta> Oops, I should start labeling my CD's. That was win7 :ugly:
[13:00] <solenzo> can someone help me with small problem?
[13:00] <tomodachi> solenzo: dont ask just ask
[13:00] <Quantum_Ion> theeta, this is why its going to be tricky
[13:00] <experiMENTAL> glebihan: message from terminal: bash: ./1.py: /usr/bin: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[13:00] <solenzo> ok :)
[13:00] <experiMENTAL> glebihan: diffrent paths OK
[13:00] <theeta> :))
[13:00] <Quantum_Ion> theeta you have to run the ubuntu linux live cd as try not install
[13:01] <glebihan> experiMENTAL, I though from the thread that the permission denied issue was solved ?
[13:01] <solenzo> i have to run MS SQL SERVER on one machine and app in Yii framework on another. Itried to use MDB2 class mssql connect and nothing works to establish connection with MS SQL database
[13:01] <Quantum_Ion> they you have to mount your old filesystem and copy the /etc/sudoers file from your ubuntu live cd to your corrupted filesystem
[13:01] <bazhang> solenzo, connection to ubuntu there?
[13:01] <solenzo> connection from ubuntu to windows machine
[13:02] <solenzo> each machine in the same internal network
[13:02] <glebihan> experiMENTAL, the first line of your script should be "#! /usr/bin/env python"
[13:02] <experiMENTAL> glebihan: your right. it is working from terminal - not "bash: ./1.py: /usr/bin: bad interpreter: Permission denied" message
[13:02] <glebihan> experiMENTAL, you cannot run a python script with bash...
[13:02] <experiMENTAL> glebihan: there is no message, it is working from terminal.
[13:03] <glebihan> experiMENTAL, then what is that error message you just pasted ?
[13:03] <Quantum_Ion> theeta, Go to Places->OS->yourcoruppted filesystem
[13:03] <solenzo> bazhang: could you give an advice or channel where i can get help :)
[13:04] <experiMENTAL> glebihan: i thought it still exists, but file is OK, so no more messages like that (i'm a bit ill, so i'm thinking poor today, sry :)
[13:05] <glebihan> experiMENTAL, ok so the script is working fine both from double-clicking on it and from terminal (whatever the path your run it from) ?
[13:05] <DeadmanIncJS> got a question on Ubuntu 11.04 64 bit. can i run that on my Win7 machine since Win7 is 64 bit?
[13:05] <experiMENTAL> glebihan: yes, script on terminal OK, on double click OK, running from Desktop folder
[13:06] <glebihan> experiMENTAL, could you pastebin the .desktop file used to launch it ? (the one from ~/.config/autostart)
[13:07] <Quantum_Ion> DeadmanIncJS, Absolutely
[13:07] <theeta> Quantum_Ion: sorry, my Girlfriend just came around... :(
[13:07] <Quantum_Ion> theeta, I thought you were a woman
[13:08] <theeta> And now youre not going to help me anymore? :p
[13:08] <Quantum_Ion> lol
[13:08] <Quantum_Ion> theeta, I told you what to do
[13:08] <Quantum_Ion> theeta, You are going to have to use your Ubuntu Live CD to fix your corrupted filesystem
[13:08] <theeta> Yea I know. Thanks! :) I'll try that as soon as i get a chance. :)
[13:09] <theeta> I'll come by later again just to tell you if it worked. :) Thanks!
[13:09] <user_689> Does enyone know if the "profile" set next to "quiet splash profile" is still working in todays Ubuntu 10.10?
[13:09] <qweqq> Hello, i accidently erased my /dev with rm -R, is there any way to recreate it without reinstall ?
[13:10] <glebihan> experiMENTAL, btw, does double-clicking on the .desktop file launch your script ?
[13:10] <experiMENTAL> glebihan: ill check it
[13:11] <experiMENTAL> glebihan: "The application launcher "1.py.desktop" has not been marked as trusted. If you do not know the source of this file, launching it may be unsafe."
[13:11] <user_689> Hi, Does enyone know if the "profile" set next to "quiet splash profile" is still working in todays Ubuntu 10.10?
[13:11] <glebihan> experiMENTAL, oh yes forgot about that... well could you pastebin the file then ?
[13:12] <BluesKaj> user_689, dunno about profile but in some cases , nomodeset is required to boot into X with some nvidia graphics cards
[13:12] <Quantum_Ion> NetSplit
[13:12] <user_689> BluesKaj: It's to improve boot performance
[13:13] <DeadmanIncJS> Quantum_Ion: i thought so, but im always having boot issues after I update :(
[13:13] <user_689> Nevermind
[13:13] <experiMENTAL> glebihan: autostart file: http://www.pasteall.org/24313
[13:13] <BluesKaj> user_689,  , it's the first I've heard of the "profile" option
[13:13] <NetSplitz> DeadmanIncJS, What kind of computer do you have ?
[13:14] <glebihan> experiMENTAL, is your file set as executable ?
[13:14] <DeadmanIncJS> HP
[13:14] <DeadmanIncJS> i got the partitions all set
[13:14] <DeadmanIncJS> w/help from another user on here
[13:15] <DeadmanIncJS> it'll give me the option to choose Ubuntu/Win7 but after a few reboots it wont go into Ubuntu
[13:15] <DeadmanIncJS> just a blank screen
[13:15] <defunkt> siocsifflags error 132   <--- anyone seen this when trying to enable a wifi adaptor?
[13:15] <NetSplitz> DeadmanIncJS, HP is the worst
[13:15] <experiMENTAL> glebihan: \/ allow executing file as program <- that?
[13:15] <CoJaBo> ew, hp
[13:15] <DeadmanIncJS> btw, i am re-installing Ubuntu.  for mount point i want "/" right?
[13:15] <NetSplitz> DeadmanIncJS, HP does something to their BIOS which is strange
[13:16] <glebihan> experiMENTAL, yes
[13:16] <DeadmanIncJS> i like HP's laptops.  i got this 17" widescreen one for 800 :)
[13:16] <NetSplitz> DeadmanIncJS, You need a Linux friendly computer maker
[13:16] <coder2> Hello. Please help me to get sound in wine. I do not have pulseaudio, only alsa.
[13:16] <experiMENTAL> glebihan: it was allowed all the time
[13:16] <DeadmanIncJS> ZaReason didn't have any big screen laptops cheap enough
[13:17] <DeadmanIncJS> and it runs on here, i did the "live cd" for a day and worked fine
[13:17] <CoJaBo> my last hp caught fire
[13:17] <DeadmanIncJS> btw, i am re-installing Ubuntu.  for mount point i want "/" right?
[13:18] <DeadmanIncJS> or "/boot"
[13:18] <NetSplitz> DeadmanIncJS, /
[13:18] <DeadmanIncJS> k
[13:18] <DeadmanIncJS> gracias
[13:19] <glebihan> experiMENTAL, did you try replacing the "Exec" line by "Exec=/usr/bin/python /home/user/Desktop/1.py" ?
[13:19] <DeadmanIncJS> if it acts up again guess i'll give up :)
[13:19] <DeadmanIncJS> *searches ZaReason.com*
[13:22] <qweqq> Hello, i accidently erased my /dev with rm -R, is there any way to recreate it without reinstall ?
[13:22] <experiMENTAL> glebihan: .desktop double click: "The application launcher "1.py.desktop" has not been marked as trusted. If you do not know the source of this file, launching it may be unsafe."
[13:23] <glebihan> experiMENTAL, this doesn't matter. to edit the file, open a terminal and type "gedit /path/to/file"
[13:23] <auronandace> qweqq: how did you rm something that important accidentally?
[13:25] <NetSplitz> qweqq, Good question
[13:25] <CoJaBo> ...o_O
[13:25] <experiMental_> glebihan: i'll relogin now
[13:25] <glebihan> experiMENTAL, ok
[13:25] <qweqq> auronandace: i mounted it in a chroot which then i did sudo rm -R on
[13:26] <auronandace> qweqq: why
[13:27] <eguest309> i want  a shell script which will setup two chrome windows in fullscreen on  one machine in kiosk mode wth another external montiro connected
[13:27]  * CoJaBo umounted / a few hours ago, tho that was on a system dumb enough to let you do that unprivileged -_-'
[13:27] <eguest309> is that possible ?
[13:28] <qweqq> auronandace: i built a debian chroot with debootstrap and mounted my /dev, sys, proc with --bind to the created chroot, i finished my job in the chroot, and instead of unmounting the devices first i just did sudo rm -R on the folder holding the chroot which wiped /dev, sys and proc seem to be ok
[13:28] <CoJaBo> it still runs, but I can't login to reboot it myself D=
[13:29] <qweqq> auronandace: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/need-to-rebuild-dev-354950/ i found this thread which says if i am using udev (i am using ubuntu 10.10) everything should be ok, but i am not sure about it since this is a machine i do not have physical access to
[13:30] <experiMental_> glebihan: current autostart file: www.pasteall.org/24314 gives no autostart after login
[13:30] <qweqq> auronandace: i mean that i don't know how safe it is to try to reboot and if i am using udev
[13:31] <glebihan> experiMental_, ok then could you pastebin the python script itself
[13:31] <glebihan> ?
[13:31] <adante> i have a disk that can only dd at about 25 meg a second - it's a 1.5tb 7200rpm so i thought it should be much faster than that, anybody have tips for diagnosing?
[13:31] <frostschutz> adante: exact dd command?
[13:31] <izinucs> glebihan: back.. worked.. doing a full system update now.. AND getting a new kernel.. joy.. I should look for old kernels too to eliminate
[13:32] <adante> frostschutz: dd if=/dev/sdd of=/dev/sda bs=32M
[13:32] <adante> frostschutz: 369098752 bytes (369 MB) copied, 15.8826 s, 23.2 MB/s
[13:32] <glebihan> izinucs, nice :)
[13:33] <NetSplitz> Always keep your Ubuntu Live disk on you just in case
[13:33] <auronandace> qweqq: I'd reinstall and be more careful next time when you do anything as sudo
[13:33] <frostschutz> adante: bs=32M doesn't make much sense. use bs=1M at most. 64-128k is sufficient. only 512b is really bad. How fast is it if you of=/dev/null?
[13:33] <cfedde> adante: try dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/dsa bs=32M count=100
[13:33] <NetSplitz> You need that Ubuntu Live disk to repair filesystems
[13:34] <experiMental_> glebihan: www.pasteall.org/24315
[13:34] <cfedde> adante: also frostschutz's advice.
[13:34] <frostschutz> adante: yes, try with of /dev/null and if /dev/zero resp. to find out which of the two disks is the one being slow
[13:34] <qweqq> NetSplitz, auronandace yeh, i guess i will reinstall, thanks for the help
[13:35] <cfedde> also try a smaller block size.  4k or 8k even
[13:35] <glebihan> experiMental_, you should replace the value of the "plik" variable by the absolute path to "1.txt"
[13:35] <buttons> what is the default command line utility for sending email with an attachment?
[13:36] <adante> frostschutz: wow... to dev null it is 129mb/s - it must be my e-sata (on /dev/sda ) which is bunk
[13:36] <adante> frostschutz: thanks!
[13:36] <CoJaBo> huh. mine runs faster with bs=32M, and that's with a really sucky sata card lol
[13:36] <experiMental_> glebihan: what line?
[13:36] <glebihan> experiMental_, line 43 : plik='1.txt'
[13:36] <coder2> no answers. Thanks anyway, bye :-(
[13:37] <CoJaBo> 107m/s vs 92m/s
[13:37] <CoJaBo> wired.
[13:37] <CoJaBo> weird
[13:37] <JillesCode> Guys, I have a ubuntu server running now
[13:37] <JillesCode> how do I acces it from other pc's?
[13:37] <osse> qweqq, if you are going to reinstall, can't you then just try to reboot anyway?
[13:37] <frostschutz> CoJaBo: at that buffer size you're limited by dd implementation oddities rather than read/write overheads.
[13:38] <spacebug-> JillesCode: install openssh-server (if that is not already installed)
[13:38] <CoJaBo> my laptop gets 907 kb/sec at default size.. lol
[13:38] <CoJaBo> incredibly sucky hdd
[13:38] <alecat> how do you do a pipe in ubuntu on macbook ?
[13:38] <qweqq> osse: problem is that i did it over ssh, and someone else is working on the machine right now, i know the machine has a raid setup and if i reboot and can't get to boot back maybe all his info will be lost
[13:39] <scarleo> The side menu in Unity (Dash?) is being reset everytime I switch user. All my personally added programs get removed and it reverts to default. Can it be fixed somehow?
[13:39] <spacebug-> scarleo: that is a personalized "menu" so it is how it should work
[13:39] <BluesKaj> JillesCode, install openssh-client on the pcs youwant to ssh into the server
[13:39] <scarleo> Launcher might be the correct name
[13:39] <experiMental_> glebihan: i'm not shure i understand the meaning of "absolute value" - double quote instead of single quote, is it this?
[13:40] <Hoyt> hi , what's a recommended calendar program ?
[13:40] <scarleo> spacebug-: I think you get me wrong. If another user is using his account, MY launcher gets reset to default.
[13:40] <coiax> Hey guys, how do you determine which patches have been applied to an ubuntu package? I want to know how the source differs from the vanilla
[13:40] <glebihan> experiMental_, no I mean that instead of '1.txt' it should be '/path/to/1.txt' (I guess /home/user/Desktop/1.txt)
[13:40] <beef2011> random wifi disconnects, ubuntu 11.04 with rt3090 (conflicting drivers already blacklisted)
[13:41] <kingofswords> can anyone tell a channel where i can help with slipstreamed ver of windows?
[13:41] <qweqq> osse: i am atm downloading a fresh ubuntu on which i will erase /dev too and restart my pc, let's hope it works, got any better ideas ? :)
[13:41] <spacebug-> scarleo: oh I see. Then it is not how it should work ;/
[13:41] <experiMental_> glebihan: can this be "./1.txt" instead of "1.txt"?
[13:41] <glebihan> experiMental_, no it would be the same as what it is now
[13:42] <scarleo> spacebug-: Have you seen any bug reports on that matter?
[13:42] <osse> qweqq, smart! are you doing it in a VM or on an actual computer?
[13:42] <experiMental_> glebihan: is there any universal solution for different folders?
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> I tought ubuntu was secure...http://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/ubuntu-fixes-webkit-flaws-other-issues-updates-082311
[13:42] <spacebug-> no. Haven't looked though. I'm the only user using graphic login
[13:43] <glebihan> experiMental_, is the "1.txt" file always in the same folder as the python script ?
[13:43] <experiMental_> glebihan: yes
[13:44] <Josh_> If I want to edit something in folder other than home folder , Do everytime I have to open terminal type sudo gedit?
[13:44] <glebihan> experiMental_, ok then use "plik=os.path.join(os.path.split(__file__)[0], '1.txt')"
[13:44] <beef2011> random wifi disconnects, ubuntu 11.04 with rt3090 (conflicting drivers already blacklisted)
[13:44] <benn> people
[13:44] <glebihan> experiMental_, you'll have to add "import os" at the beginning of the file
[13:44] <benn> i am in windows and i cannot enter any folder O_o
[13:44] <Jordan_U> !gksudo | Josh_
[13:44] <experiMental_> glebihan: ok, ill try :)
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> beef2011: did you try WEP security instead of WPA?
[13:44] <bazhang> benn, how is that related to ubuntu support
[13:45] <benn> need to be administrator...is there a software i can use to access any problems?
[13:45] <glebihan> experiMental_, let me know how it goes
[13:45] <qweqq> osse, yes, that's a better idea, will try it in a VM :)
[13:45] <adante> frostschutz: now going at 85, thanks for your help
[13:45] <Josh_> Thanks JonathanD
[13:45] <Josh_> err
[13:45] <Josh_> Jordan_U,
[13:45] <spacebug-> Josh_: there is plugins for nautilus. One of them lets you open folders and such as administrator. That way you dont have to use the terminal if you dont want to
[13:45] <beef2011> lotuspsychje: unfortunately I can't change it, the router/network isn't mine
[13:45] <Babboon> Anyone know why when I run the who command there are three of my username logged in?
[13:45] <benn> bazhang:the guys off #windows dont want me to hack
[13:45] <bazhang> benn, its offtopic here
[13:46] <benn> ok
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> beef2011: i had issues with rt drivers not being abled to access wpa
[13:46] <spacebug-> Babboon: some terminals open?=
[13:46] <benn> but maybe someone else want to answer my question
[13:46] <benn> wants*
[13:46] <Jordan_U> Josh_: And yes, pretty much any file outside /home/you will require root priveleges, though there are exceptions like /tmp/ so check the permissions before immediately using [gk]sudo.
[13:46] <Josh_> Thanks alot spacebug-
[13:46] <beef2011> lotuspsychje: oh no I can access WPA, I'm connected to the network it just suddenyl drops on me and won't connect again unless I reboot
[13:46] <bazhang> benn, no, not here. stop asking.
[13:46] <Babboon> yea spacebug
[13:46] <spacebug-> Josh_: yw
[13:46] <spacebug-> Babboon: then that is it
[13:47] <Babboon> there are three
[13:47] <benn> bazhang yes i can
[13:47] <osse> qweqq, actually, I was thinking a VM will give a "false positive" in the sense that the VM probably will try to make the OS boot
[13:47] <Josh_> I just installed lighttpd , server with sudo apt-get install
[13:47] <Babboon> why is that though?
[13:47] <benn> is there a way to access any folder in windows xp with a software?
[13:47] <silvercat> guys, i'm trying to install ubuntu 11.04 but my cd is corrupt. I've gotten as far as to network setting up, but it fails at core installation. is there a way to make it download the packages its unable to install from the internet instead of cdrom? like a net install?
[13:47] <Josh_> now I want to edit stuff , every time writing sudo gedit was painful :P
[13:47] <bazhang> benn, stop that now
[13:47] <spacebug-> Babboon: you should see something like you name and maybe tty8 and them some with name and pts/2
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> that was exact same error for me beef2011: wpa disconnected me after a while, had to reboot the router..
[13:47] <qweqq> osse, hm, you're right, got a laptop, will try on it
[13:48] <Babboon> yea pts/0 , 1, 2
[13:48] <spacebug-> yeah, because that user is on those terminals
[13:48] <beef2011> lotuspsychje: I don't mean rebooting the router I mean rebooting my laptop, it'll connect just fine but a about a minute or so later just dies
[13:48] <benn> dammit
[13:48] <Babboon> oh
[13:48] <Babboon> I got ya
[13:48] <experiMental_> glebihan: it is working. i love you!
[13:49] <jpmh> I am using the onboard video and an external monitor - when I do things like start firefox - they start in the external - how do I force it to start things  in one or the other myself
[13:49] <krux> ok
[13:49] <spacebug-> Babboon: you can also jsut type w to see more
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> beef2011: maybe try to pastebin syslog errors for network manager here in chat, someone might be able to fix
[13:49] <benn> help!!
[13:49] <Babboon> Nice! Thank you spacebug!
[13:49] <beef2011> lotuspsychje: how would one go about doing that?
[13:49] <glebihan> experiMental_, :)
[13:50] <spacebug-> Babboon: yw ;)
[13:50] <dsnyders> silvercat, I'm not sure, but I don't think there is.  These days I prefer using a USB flash drive instead of a CD.
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> beef2011: go to /var/log/syslog and copy paste the text to pastebin website, tne copy url into chat with your problem
[13:50] <JillesCode> I use fedora for my laptop, and ubuntu for my server ^^
[13:50] <experiMental_> glebihan: do you need some help?
[13:51] <Josh_> Ubuntu's file system is quite tricky for a new user :\
[13:51] <Josh_> when you install something with apt-get it gets so much distributed everywhere
[13:51] <Jordan_U> !fhs | Josh_
[13:51] <beef2011> lotuspsychje: ok thanks, will return after a reboot
[13:51] <Josh_> I just installed nautilus now , I don't know where I can start it from :P
[13:51] <silvercat> dsnyders, I'm trying to install server x64, what i have on my flash drive is the desktop version, not sure if its even x64 but it should work right?
[13:51] <glebihan> experiMental_, no why ?
[13:52] <experiMental_> glebihan: than thank you. have a nice day :)
[13:52] <oCean> Josh_: when installed from repositories, executables are installed in your PATH variable, for example /usr/bin/nautilus.
[13:52] <glebihan> experiMental_, you're welcome. have a nice day too
[13:53] <oCean> Josh_: since it's in your PATH, you don't need to provide the full path to the executable, just type nautilus
[13:53] <anadon> when I try to install grub2, it errors with "./grub-mkfont -o unicode.pf2 /usr/share/fonts/unifont/unifont.pcf.gz      ./grub-mkfont: error: can't set 16x16 font size."  How do I fix this?
[13:53] <Josh_> oCean, just type nautilus , where?
[13:53] <Josh_> in laucher or something?
[13:54] <oCean> Josh_: I would use a terminal
[13:54] <dsnyders> silvercat, Can't help.  I've only installed the server version once, via CD.  I didn't like it, so I wiped it and reinstalled.
[13:54] <Jordan_U> anadon: What version of Ubuntu are you using? Grub2 should be installed by default.
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> hi
[13:54] <spacebug-> Josh_: alt+F2 and type nautilus
[13:55] <Josh_> Thank you both of you , worked by both methods
[13:55] <Josh_> But I still don't know where it is installed :P
[13:55] <vrs> http://pastebin.com/xGr7Tu3e http://pastebin.com/GEbhqtwn I probably need a new disk, comments?
[13:55] <Josh_> Also, Nautilus just opened basic file manager of ubuntu :\
[13:55] <vrs> first is syslog, second smartctl
[13:56] <dsnyders> Josh_, you could use the whereis command if you really need to know.
[13:56] <Josh_> Ohh
[13:56] <Josh_> :D
[13:57] <Josh_> But why wasn't it just installed in my home folder?
[13:57] <Jordan_U> Josh_: Nautilus *is* Ubuntu's default file manager.
[13:58] <Josh_> Ohh , dumb me.
[13:58] <Kingsy> apt-get contains vlc 1.1.9 how can I install 1.1.12 ?
[13:59] <Kingsy> I have already installed 1.1.9 so I guess i need to upgrade
[13:59] <trions> Can anybody please tell what is the difference between synptiks touch pad and eGalaxTouch controller drivers?
[13:59] <dsnyders> Josh_, Apt never installs programs in the home folder.  That's not where they belong.
[13:59] <trions> I need to setup finger touch on my touch screen tablet. Digitizer already works. Its just the finger touch which I need to figure out
[13:59] <Josh_> dsnyders, How can we control where it get installed , like we can in windows.
[14:03] <Josh_> Or we don't need to?
[14:03] <trions> I followed this http://samiux.blogspot.com/2010/11/howto-ubuntu-1010-on-gigabyte-touchnote.html but still it does not recognize finger touch.
[14:03] <LarryBird> hows everyone today
[14:03] <ultrixx> is there a speech recognition software for ubuntu? like dragon for windows
[14:03] <Jordan_U> Josh_: You can't. You also generally don't ever want to.
[14:03] <Kingsy> this is the thing with ubuntu, I love it but say I wanted to upgrade a program, there seems to be no standard way of doing it? how do I know if I can do it through the repos at all?
[14:03] <mattt__> What's with all the Ubuntu forum results that show up on google that require one to login when trying to access them?
[14:03] <Moshanator> kingsy, is tjere a specific reason you want .12?
[14:03] <Josh_> Jordan_U, Ok , thanks alot
[14:03] <Josh_> Just one more question
[14:03] <Josh_> is there any task manager?
[14:03] <Jordan_U> Josh_: You're welcome.
[14:03] <Kingsy> Moshanator: 1.1.9 has a pulseaudio bug that is screwing with my playback
[14:03] <Kingsy> 1.1.12 doesnt
[14:03] <Sulfate> Hi
[14:05] <Jordan_U> Josh_: Yes, "System monitor".
[14:12] <Josh_> I am currently on 192.168.1.3
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> Josh_: use network manager
[14:12] <Kingsy> ActionParsnip: no, how would I know if there is one?
[14:12] <Josh_> I want to change it to 192.168.1.8
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | Kingsy
[14:12] <supercom32> ActionParsnip: That will not work. I can't see the drive on my "fdisk -l" list.
[14:12] <damno> can I add a username as member of two different groups?
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> damno: yes, you are already a member of many groups
[14:12] <Kingsy> ActionParsnip: https://launchpad.net/~bdrung/+archive/ppa/+build/2638424 <-- looks like vlc 1.1.12 is in there
[14:12] <damno> ActionParsnip: ok. thanks.
[14:12] <beef2011> lotuspsychje: here http://paste.ubuntu.com/675271/
[14:12] <supercom32> ActionParsnip: Consider the drive "ejected" via Ubuntu or a USB device error.
[14:12] <Kingsy> ActionParsnip: I am on 64bit btw
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy: https://launchpad.net/~bdrung/+archive/ppa
[14:12] <user_46> Can anyone tell me where I can see my Bootlog. Sometimes Ubuntu just stop booting for some reason
[14:12] <DeadmanIncJS> well that was just crazy
[14:12] <Kingsy> ActionParsnip: ok, so what exactly happens if I add that PPA to my system? all I want to do is install vlc 1.1.12 thats it, I don't want anything else...
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy: then yuo will install vlc from the PPA and if you get any issues, we cannot support your vlc
[14:12] <user_46> Can anyone tell me where I can see my Bootlog. Sometimes Ubuntu just stop booting for some reason.
[14:13] <beef2011> user_46:  maybe in /var/log/???
[14:13] <beef2011> user_46: minus the ?'s of course
[14:13] <Kingsy> ActionParsnip: but if I install vlc from that PPA, and it does go faulty because its been install through a PPA I can remove it using apt-get ?
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy: also, if the PPA gets updated, you will pull down the new version
[14:14] <supercom32> cat /proc/scsi/scsi
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy: yes it can be easily removed and the ppa can be easily removed too
[14:14] <Josh_> If I want to kill some process , can I?
[14:14] <qweqq> user_46: you can view your logs in a more organised way in System -> Administration -> Log File Viewer
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> Josh_: yes
[14:14] <Josh_> ActionParsnip, how?
[14:14] <Kingsy> ActionParsnip: cant I just add the PPA to sources.list install vlc then remove the PPA? that way I wont be updated with the PPA ?
[14:14] <user_46> I'm in var/log/Bootlog-----inside ((Nothing has been logged yet.)
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> Josh_: either something like:  killall programname
[14:15] <Josh_> kill"all"
[14:15] <Josh_> all seems dangerous there :P
[14:15] <beef2011> user_46: might this help? http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-view-boot-log/
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy: no need to use sources.list, just use: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:name
[14:16] <Kingsy> ActionParsnip: and then audo remove-apt-repository ?
[14:16] <Kingsy> sudo**
[14:16] <beef2011> lotuspsychje: out of that log it looks almost like some other driver is trying to control my card that I haven't blacklisted
[14:16] <bazhang> Kingsy, ppa-purge
[14:16] <user_46> beef2011: I just accessed the bootlog. It's empty
[14:16] <bazhang> !info ppa-purge | Kingsy
[14:18] <Kingsy> ActionParsnip: ok I have added the ppa.. apt-get install vlc stills says I have the most up to date version.. do I need to update apt-get ?
[14:18] <beef2011> user_46: then unfortunately I can be of no more use, just trying to help a little but knowledge of the beast as it were is not that big :-)
[14:18] <beef2011> user_46: that should say my knowledge of the beast, freakin' keyboard
[14:18] <user_46> beef2011: Thanks anyway
[14:18] <bazhang> Kingsy, yes
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy: how did you add it?
[14:19] <Galvatron> I have a likely Compiz related problem with Ubuntu 11.04 (classic GNOME) and both Compiz 0.8.6 and as far as I remember also with 0.9.4: applets on the right side of the upper panel (notofication area, weather and clock) frequently load and work in the background, but don't show up on the panel, either partially or entirely and I must restart them or the panel itself to make them visible. If it matters, I have 7300GT + latest proprietary b
[14:19] <Galvatron> from nVidia's website. Compiz is added to autostart by being added to required session components in Gconf Editor.
[14:20] <rrykua> Hi. How do I find out process id by window in Ubuntu?
[14:20] <bpoole> I want to create a patch for a bug. I read (ok skimmed) the packagingbuild and see how to generate a patch (dch/debuild/debdiff) but I had one question. My change is essentially undoing a couple of lines of an existing patch. Is editing the src files and letting debdiff create a new patch file the correct solution or is there a way to fix the errorneous patch file?
[14:20] <jrib> rrykua: xprop or xwininfo
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy: was it:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bdrung/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install vlc
[14:20] <theeta> ps aux | less
[14:21] <bpoole> s/packagingbuild/packagingguide/
[14:21] <Kingsy> ActionParsnip: exactly
[14:21] <Kingsy> ActionParsnip: but now ppa-purge is saying that if I remove that PPA vlc will be dowgraded..
[14:21] <Kingsy> downgraded..
[14:21] <Kingsy> I guess I should just keep the ppa then
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> Josh_: killall is the command, you can also use:  ps -ef | grep name    use the leftmost value as the PID and run:  kill PID
[14:21] <bazhang> Kingsy, then dont use it
[14:21] <stu1> nonono kingsy
[14:22] <stu1> You don't want PPA
[14:22] <rrykua> jrib: Thank. I'll try that now. Also I remember in some variant of Linux there was a nice tool, when mouse cursor turned into a cross with skull and that allowed to kill any process by clicking on its window. Is there something like that for Ubuntu?
[14:22] <bazhang> stu1, yes he does
[14:22] <Kingsy> stu1: I had no choice
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy: well it assumes you installed vlc, did you get the 1.1.12 installed ok?
[14:22] <jrib> bpoole: try #ubuntu-motu but I'd suggest just creating a patch that modifies the existing patch
[14:22] <Kingsy> bazhang: what do you mean don't use it? isnt it automatic ?
[14:22] <jrib> rrykua: xkill
[14:22] <Galvatron> Kingsy: It's exactly how ppa-purge works - roll back the changes made by a PPA.
[14:22] <Kingsy> ActionParsnip: yeah thats install ok
[14:22] <Kingsy> that**
[14:22] <bazhang> Kingsy, that removes the ppa and the version, you said "what if?"
[14:23] <rrykua> jrib: thanks a lot
[14:23] <user___> Hello, could someone tell me the meaning of phrase "Rep Sales" and what is "Rep", in other words? About what it is (context - maybe form or report)
[14:23] <bazhang> Kingsy, its not sudo remove-apt-repository
[14:23] <bazhang> !ot | user___
[14:23] <bazhang> user___, try ##english
[14:24] <qweqq> Kingsy: to disable updating from the PPA: sudo software-properties-gtk, then go to the Other sofware tab, and uncheck the lines containing the ppa to vlc
[14:24] <Josh_> IRC is the best thing ever made in world :P
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> Josh_: i can think of better ;)
[14:24] <rrykua> And finally one more question. Sometimes my Ubuntu hangs up because some process it taking all resources (e.g. linking Google Chrome browser). In Windows I am able to start Task Manager at all times since it has highest priority, while on Ubuntu System Monitor is running with the same priority and thus takes forever start. Is there some way to make it always start with higher priority?
[14:24] <Josh_> ActionParsnip, lol
[14:24] <Josh_> like?
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> Josh_: sex
[14:24] <Josh_> LOL
[14:25] <Josh_> I need to change my statement now.
[14:25] <IdleOne> :/
[14:25] <irrumator_> curious why Lucida grand doesn't look the same or as nice in Ubuntu as on Macs? Monaco font though looks great.
[14:25] <Josh_> For Knowledge , IRC is the best thing  ever made in world :P
[14:25] <Josh_> :P
[14:25] <IdleOne> Josh_: get on topic please if you want to chat join #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> rrykua: you could edit the menu item to run:  nice -15 command    giving it a higher cpu time
[14:26] <Kingsy> qweqq: thanks.. great stuff
[14:26] <vahid> HI
[14:26] <beef2011> wifi randomly disconnecting in 11.04 wth rt3090 card (blacklisted drivers) here is the sys log http://paste.ubuntu.com/675271/
[14:26] <vahid> hi
[14:26] <Kingsy> ActionParsnip: bazhang: thanks for your help :)
[14:26] <theadmin> !hi | vahid
[14:26] <vahid> i have problem in linux
[14:27] <vahid> pls help me
[14:27] <theadmin> vahid: You should just state your problem
[14:27] <vahid>   ok
[14:27] <bazhang> vahid, what version of ubuntu, what is the issue
[14:27] <Galvatron> irrumator_: Have you adjusted antialiasing settings?
[14:27] <vahid> 11
[14:27] <theadmin> vahid: 11.04 or 11.10?
[14:27] <vahid> 11.10
[14:27] <rrykua> ActionParsnip: Thanks. I have also shortcut key (Ctrl+Esc) mapped to it. Can I make Ubuntu treat shortcut key handling with highest priority? Essentially all I want is that I can always hit the hotkey and kill any process despite that some other process may be taking all resources.
[14:27] <theadmin> !ubuntu+1 | vahid
[14:27] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 vahid
[14:28] <irrumator_> Galvatron: not that I know of, no. Is this not the default? How can I set it to turn out "correctly"?
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> rrykua: whatever command the combination uses, make sure it uses the nice command
[14:28] <Josh__> IdleOne, sorry, It was just 1 sentence.
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy: you got it installed ok?
[14:28] <vahid> i install squid in my server and use this server as a cacheserver and config wccp
[14:29] <rrykua> ActionParsnip: Okay. Thanks. I will test it... hopefully it will work. I am just worried that shortcut key handling may not get through, i.e. it won't even get to run "nice" command :)
[14:29] <bazhang> vahid, #ubuntu+1 for 11.10
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> vahid: oneiric isn't supported here
[14:29] <Galvatron> irrumator_: In my case Lucida Grande was looking nice with smoothing method set to subpixel and hinting to slight.	
[14:29] <dageriv> hey
[14:30] <vahid> i install squid in my server and use this server as a cacheserver and config wccp
[14:30] <irrumator_> yeah, that's what I've got right now Galvatron. Maybe the size is too small? I had the same issue with Monaco before. I resized it to be slightly larger, and it's suddenly gorgeous.
[14:30] <bazhang> vahid, hi
[14:31] <Kingsy> ActionParsnip: yeah installed great :)
[14:31] <vahid> hi
[14:32] <bazhang> vahid, this is not the channel for 11.10
[14:32] <beef2011> wifi randomly disconnecting in 11.04 wth rt3090 card (blacklisted drivers) here is the sys log http://paste.ubuntu.com/675271/
[14:32] <vahid> what chanel?
[14:32] <bazhang> vahid, /join #ubuntu+1
[14:32] <auronandace> vahid: to get help with 11.10 you'll need to /join #ubuntu+1
[14:32] <Galvatron> irrumator_: On my 17" 1024x768 display it was fine with 10 points.
[14:32] <irrumator_> well i'm on all 9s, so maybe one higher should do the trick. i'm actually at a much higher res than you as well ;0
[14:33] <Galvatron> irrumator_: Try 10pt + bold window titles.
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy: easy peasy ;)
[14:33] <makara> beef2011, open a terminal, type dmesg | pastebinit<enter>
[14:33] <Kingsy> hehe
[14:34] <Galvatron> irrumator_: I initially also had all 9pt, but quicly decided it's too small.
[14:34] <irrumator_> Galvatron: yep, windows are already bold. 10 makes everything just look fat :( I'm going back to my normal Droid Sans, an amazing font that doesn't hog space and looks beautiful anyways
[14:34] <beef2011> makara: what will that do?
[14:34] <Galvatron> irrumator_: Try playing with the hinting settings, so maybe you'll find optimal ones.
[14:34] <makara> oh you're not getting direct probe error
[14:34] <irrumator_> ok, thanks Galvatron
[14:35] <makara> sorry, I see you sent pastebin
[14:36] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[14:36] <Josh_> OMG
[14:36] <Josh_> !netsplit
[14:36] <oCean> Josh_: calm down please
[14:36] <theadmin> Oh, I didn't even notice :D
[14:39] <Josh__> Damn this
[14:40] <bazhang> Josh__, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic , you know that
[14:40] <suigeneris> hi
[14:41] <Guest47199> ciao
[14:41] <beef2011> wifi randomly disconnecting in 11.04 wth rt3090 card (blacklisted drivers) here is the sys log http://paste.ubuntu.com/675271/
[14:41] <suigeneris> I have just re-installed, and I get a grub rescue>. help me please
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: boot to liveCD and reinstate grub
[14:42] <vahid2> hi
[14:42] <makara> beef2011, what have you tried? you done any research? is this first time you're seeing this? did you change something?
[14:43] <vahid2> hi
[14:43] <vahid2> i have a problem
[14:43] <dnivra> !ask | vahid2
[14:43] <makara> beef2011, can you connect without wicd?
[14:43] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip: would http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=b668443ef7ce65e686935c8d00a6ffa3&p=8324482&postcount=5 help me?
[14:43] <theadmin> vahid2: As stated before, 11.10 is NOT SUPPORTED IN THIS CHANNEL (chat room), please type: /join #ubuntu+1
[14:43] <auronandace> vahid2: to get help with 11.10 you'll need to /join #ubuntu+1
[14:43] <stu1> I have a question. I deleted the partition that had grub on it. How do I get it back?
[14:44] <theadmin> stu1: Well, that's a toughie... Testdisk might help here
[14:44] <delinquentme_> SO ive got a bit of an issue while im typing my thumb seems to graze the touchpad .. and my cursor will jump across the screen .. this wasnt an issue in my previous install of ubuntu ... anyone happen to have any suggestions as to how to get this to be less sensitive or to filter out random taps?
[14:44] <beef2011> makara: I've tried blacklisting a couple more suggested drivers but it doesn't help, this is indeed the first time I'm seeing this and I haven't changed anything at all apart from adding dkms + a package for the card and blacklisting drivers
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin7   is what I always advise
[14:44] <aleph> Hi. How much megabytes exactly (+- 50MB) does 11.04 Desktop i386 standard installation takes after fresh install?
[14:45] <aleph> I, know that 8.04 takes 2.10 GB
[14:45] <beef2011> makara: I've read about wicd but how will it help?
[14:45] <theadmin> aleph: Around 4 gigabytes from what I'm aware
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> aleph: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[14:45] <makara> delinquentme_ usually you can press super and F9 to toggle the mouse
[14:45] <AxonetBE1> how can I access a server when I lost my public key?
[14:45] <aleph> theadmin, ActionParsnip: this is not "exactly""
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> aleph: 4 or 5Gb is minimal, you'll struggle with updates with any less.
[14:46] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip: I typed sudo grub and I got grub: command not found
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: in the liveCD?
[14:46] <delinquentme_> makara, is super going to be windows button .. or alt or funtion?
[14:46] <makara> delinquentme_ not super, FN + F9
[14:46] <aleph> ActionParsnip: i'm debian user for 10 years, and I just want exact information. what df -h tells, after first boot.
[14:46] <theadmin> aleph: If you really need to worry about disk space, you probably should consider Arch, Gentoo, SliTaz or other minimalistic distros...
[14:46] <makara> delinquentme_ you want to access the special laptop functions. they're drawn small on the keys
[14:46] <delinquentme_> makara, good idea! bu that key combo doesnt work ... lemme google
[14:46] <theadmin> aleph: Want me to do a check on this? I can install a Ubuntu in a VM and tell you the output
[14:46] <aleph> theadmin: yes, sure. I just want to determine this on my own. :)
[14:46] <compdoc`> aleph, I have a fresh install sitting here - its using 2.8 Gigs
[14:47] <aleph> compdoc`: THANKS!
[14:47] <delinquentme_> ahh!
[14:47] <delinquentme_> wowwww
[14:47] <aleph> theadmin: no, no need. I can start qemu here too :D
[14:47]  * delinquentme_ feels like a nub
[14:47] <delinquentme_> makara, thanks a buncha
[14:47] <makara> delinquentme_ sweet
[14:47] <aleph> theadmin: compdoc` says it is 2.8 GB :)
[14:47] <aleph> nice
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> aleph: lubuntu is a bit less ;)
[14:48] <compdoc`> I installed updates and a couple of programs so far
[14:48] <theadmin> aleph: Okay, that's great
[14:48] <aleph> theadmin: is this i386 or amd64 ?
[14:48]  * theadmin lol'd at "your pc, your way" on ubuntu.com xD
[14:48] <theadmin> aleph: Um, I'm running an AMD machine right here if that matters, but with a i386 OS -- so that's the only thing I can check. Can't install a 64-bit guest with a 32-bit host
[14:49] <makara> beef2011, make you remember what you blacklisted. why were you blacklisting stuff?
[14:49] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip: find /boot/grub/stage1 gives me Error 15: Fıle not found
[14:49] <beef2011> makara: I was blacklisting stuff because there are conflicting drivers for my wireless card under ubuntu
[14:49] <aleph> ActionParsnip: I have debian testing on 1gb pendrive and my gf have also debian stable on 4gb pendrive.
[14:49] <aleph> however he wants Ubuntu :)
[14:49] <aleph> she
[14:50] <makara> beef2011, so it didn't work, then you blacklisted, now it works but intermittently
[14:50] <boy_rm_bsx> hi everyone
[14:50] <Galvatron> aleph: It all depend on whether you have a separate /home partition or not. Around 3GB for the system + 0,5-1GB or more for /home
[14:50] <theadmin> aleph: Wow... Nice job there :D
[14:51] <makara> beef2011, what's the signal strength list? what's the refresh period on your WLAN set to?
[14:51] <beef2011> makara: this is what I blacklisted and yes it wasn't working before blacklist and now it is but it conks out after a minute or so rt2800pci rt2800lib rt2x00usb rt2x00pci rt2x00lib rt2860sta
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> aleph: could try xpud ;)
[14:52] <Galvatron> aleph: Size  can be reduced significantly by getting rid of old kernels, cached packages, help files, Samba, Mono, nvidia-current etc.
[14:52] <beef2011> makara: signal strength when connected is full and I've no idea what the refresh rate is
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> aleph: or install minimal and install from the ground up the things you want, keeps things tidy
[14:52] <aleph> Galvatron: I have managed to use debian on 700MB + 300MB fat. on 1gb pendrive :D. I really do not want TRICKS.
[14:53] <aleph> Galvatron: ActionParsnip: I know all tricks, and hacks. belife me. I just wanted simpler approach for my girlfriend :D
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> aleph: lxde + lxdm + wicd + chromium is my base OS :)
[14:53] <Phong_> hi guys, is it safe to pay online bills with ubuntu ?
[14:53] <theadmin> aleph: I installed Arch with a full XFCE desktop, Opera, Pidgin and Thunderbird on a 2GB-space netbook xD
[14:53] <Phong_> i dont trust windows
[14:53] <theadmin> Phong_: It is safe, but you're paranoid
[14:53] <phillyj> Phong_: yea
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> Phong_: sure, the browsers obey defacto standards so is just as safe as windows browsers
[14:54] <Galvatron> aleph: No tricks here, just the basics not to wast ~1GB
[14:54] <phillyj> Phong_: I use it for ebay, etc
[14:54] <aleph> theadmin: Arch is greate. I also tested Mint few days ago, really userfridnely. However considering this is #ubuntu, I will not discuss this :D
[14:54] <Phong_> ok
[14:54] <|Slacker|> I even pay  my bills over my cell phone
[14:54] <makara> beef2011, didn't happen after a kernel update perhaps? i wouldn't go wicd yet. its will help if there's a bug in network-manager (I think)
[14:54] <Phong_> theadmin, why do u said i am?
[14:54] <Phong_> philly, how is philly?
[14:54] <theadmin> Phong_: Well this was a joke
[14:54] <Phong_> phillyj, i live in philly too
[14:54] <Phong_> ok theadmin
[14:54] <phillyj> nice
[14:54] <aleph> Galvatron: I generally disable automatic installation of Recomands and Suggest, and use localepurge to remove all localizations.
[14:54] <Phong_> phillyj, aren't you suppose to work?
[14:55] <beef2011> makara: no I haven't changed a thing since my wubi install, it can't update the kernel because of the wireless conking out
[14:55] <phillyj> Phong_: student and looking for work
[14:55] <Phong_> phillyj, oh
[14:55] <beef2011> makara: when I say I haven't changed anything i mean nothing I haven't said
[14:55] <Phong_> i'm at work and looking for new job
[14:55] <oCean> Phong_: chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic, not here
[14:55] <Phong_> ok sorry
[14:55] <Phong_> brb
[14:55] <artisboy95> hey
[14:55] <artisboy95> i am new to irc
[14:56] <Galvatron> !question | artisboy95
[14:56] <BedMan> .
[14:56] <phillyj> artisboy95: whats the question?
[14:56] <artisboy95> okey thanks
[14:57] <makara> beef2011, you'd probably be best off going somewhere with an ethernet connection and updating everything. then see if that doesn't solve your problem
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> updates help a LOT
[14:57] <JillesCode> guys I want to make a print server
[14:57] <beef2011> makara: hmm ok
[14:57] <artisboy95> i have no question i have followed a tutorial and came here
[14:57] <JillesCode> but i can :(
[14:57] <JillesCode> can't
[14:57] <JillesCode> what is the default username and password for CUPS?
[14:57] <beef2011> makara: might as well just try Oneiric when it comes out if I'm gonna do that
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> JillesCode: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/PrinterSharing
[14:57] <oCean> artisboy95: ok, that's fine. This is the support channel. If you wish to chat, then /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:58] <makara> beef2011, i'm still trying to get my wifi working even after updates, 11.04 and Oneric. Mine is AR9271
[14:58] <artisboy95> ok
[14:58] <rpj8> what does this do: sudo chmod 700 !$
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> makara: oneiric isn't supported here
[14:58] <pcp> hi
[14:58] <bubu\a> anyone shed any light on this...trying to scp using > sudo scp -i pem.key user@ip:/home/user/file /home/user/file, debugging shows /home/user/file no such file or directory - i know its there!!!!
[14:59] <Galvatron> makara: Oneiric should be "ubuntu+1"
[14:59] <makara> beef2011, wifi is not linux's strength. But if all else fails you can try linuxwireless.org, the #linux-wireless channel, and really get into things with iw and wap-supplicant
[14:59] <rpj8> bubu\a: does /home/user/file exist on the remote
[15:00] <bubu\a> rpj8, no
[15:00] <bubu\a> home/user/ exists
[15:00] <bubu\a> but its not trying to overwrite a file..
[15:00] <bubu\a> its pointing to the local file location that does not exist...
[15:01] <suigeneris> hi
[15:01] <rpj8> bubu\a: what is its? How are you debugging?
[15:01] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip: I was disconnected
[15:01] <bubu\a> -v argument on scp command
[15:01] <suigeneris> how do I reinstall GRUB?
[15:02] <tomodachi> suigeneris: there is a command named grub-install
[15:02] <bubu\a> the same syntax works fine from another box so i know its not that
[15:02] <bubu\a> maybe a permissions thing on the local file? but i would think it would tell me no permissions etc rather than cant find it?
[15:02] <bubu\a> alsot tried as root and still no luck
[15:02] <rpj8> bubu\a: can you copy over a different local file?
[15:03] <suigeneris> tomodachi: I try sudo grub-install /dev/sdb1 and I get "Could not find device for /boot"
[15:04] <glebihan> suigeneris, you should not grub install grub on a partition but on a disk, ie "sudo grub-install /dev/sdb"
[15:04] <bubu\a> no rpj8
[15:05] <bubu\a> cant scp any file over....
[15:05] <rpj8> bubu\a: what command are you running to try a different file
[15:05] <suigeneris> glebihan: I get the same message
[15:06] <suigeneris> brb wıth live cd
[15:07] <bubu\a> rpj8, sudo scp  -i /home/ubuntu/.ssh/drop.pem user@IP:/home/ubuntu/filename /home/ubuntu/filename
[15:07] <suigeneris> hi, I am back
[15:07] <bubu\a> or
[15:07] <bubu\a> rpj8, sudo scp  -i /home/ubuntu/.ssh/drop.pem user@IP:/home/ubuntu/anyfilename /home/ubuntu/filename
[15:07] <bubu\a> and it always says it cant see it....
[15:08] <suigeneris> glebihan: sudo grub-install /dev/sdb Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[15:08] <rpj8> bubu\a: try it without sudo.
[15:08] <glebihan> suigeneris, are you on a live cd now ?
[15:08] <suigeneris> glebihan: yes
[15:08] <glebihan> suigeneris, then in order to reinstall grub you'll have to chroot into your installed system
[15:08] <glebihan> !chroot | suigeneris
[15:09] <suigeneris> glebihan: chroot, then grub-install?
[15:10] <glebihan> suigeneris, yes
[15:10] <bubu\a> rpj8, still no go...
[15:10] <hcaine> I trying to install a new LMCE RC1 (8.10). I have read at morning that we dont need to do a apt-get distupgrade... should or should not
[15:10] <daxu> how i can install JAVA SDK in UBUNTU 11.04.
[15:11] <bubu\a> authentication etc everything ok
[15:11] <rpj8> bubu\a: oh. you have the arguments wrong
[15:12] <rpj8> bubu\a: it's  -i authfile from to
[15:12] <oCean> daxu: hey back? You have to enable 'partner repositories' to be able to install SUN's jdk:  then, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[15:12] <bubu\a> yeh thats what im doing rpj8
[15:13] <bubu\a> user@ip:/home/ubuntu/file /home/ubuntu/file
[15:13] <suigeneris> glebihan: there is  no grub-install or apt-get inside chroot :(
[15:13] <bubu\a>                            ^^^^^ local file
[15:13] <bubu\a> the first file even*
[15:13] <bubu\a> lol
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> oCean: http://www.multimediaboom.com/how-to-install-java-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal-ppa/
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> oCean: easier, and updates more frequently :)
[15:15] <oCean> ActionParsnip: I'll remember that
[15:15] <rpj8> bubu\a: not sure. I can't replicate your situation. sorry.
[15:15] <bubu\a> rpj8, i used the same syntax (same script) on another box of mine and it worked without a problem
[15:15] <bubu\a> must be a permissions thing...?
[15:15] <bubu\a> tried putting the local file to 777 though and still nothing
[15:16] <rpj8> bubu\a: try copying somethign from your home directory locally to user@server:/home/user/ where user is the same user
[15:16] <rpj8> bubu\a: break it down to the simplest usecase
[15:17] <suigeneris> glebihan: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)
[15:17] <glebihan> suigeneris, did you follow the guide I linked you to to perform your chroot ?
[15:18] <suigeneris> glebihan: sorry I thought I knew so I didnot
[15:18] <glebihan> suigeneris, then exit your chroot and start over, following the instructions in that guide
[15:18] <suigeneris> okay
[15:20] <mattt__> anyone know how to configure the capture and playback volumes for a bluetooth headset?
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> oCean: in most search engines:  natty java    find is well
[15:20] <suigeneris> glebihan: Unable to locate package dchroot
[15:21] <bubu\a> rpj8, what ports does scp use??
[15:21] <rpj8> bubu\a: your ssh ports
[15:21] <glebihan> suigeneris, you shouldn't need to install those as you're on the live cd
[15:21] <bubu\a> hmm
[15:21] <bubu\a> damn thought so but thoguht could be that
[15:21] <foo38> hi
[15:21] <Krishnandu> Hi, I've few images. I want to batch compress them, without compromising resolution, means I don't want to resize them. Each of the pic is of 5MB, so I want each of them in KB's. How can I do that??
[15:22] <thomas5> Enter text here...Hi is there anyone out ther?
[15:22] <foo38> krishnan: use convert with only quality settings
[15:23] <Krishnandu> foo38, Sorry didn't got you. Which app to use?? GIMP??
[15:23] <foo38> non, you mentioned batch conversion so I referred to a command line tool, convert
[15:24] <modonovan> anyone know what a perfectly working optiarc drive would stop being recognised by bios all of a sudden?
[15:24] <foo38> you can also use gimp, but I don't know about batch processing with gimp
[15:24] <modonovan> it's not been moved in any way
[15:24] <modonovan> and has been functioning perfectly for a couple of years no
[15:24] <modonovan> now even
[15:24] <Krishnandu> foo38, Ya, CLI tool would be fine :) Thanks lemme check the docs and get it :)
[15:24] <modonovan> weirder still
[15:25] <rpj8> bubu\a: did you try with a clean ssh (without the -i or anythign extra) on the same machine
[15:25] <foo38> modo: disks die, that's life
[15:25] <modonovan> the drive is working fine within ubuntu (natty)
[15:25] <THJC> saying hello
[15:25] <daxu> Enter a path to the Java 2 SDK?how can i do?
[15:26] <modonovan> foo38: disk ain't dead
[15:26] <modonovan> thankfully
[15:26] <modonovan> playin cda as i type
[15:26] <bubu\a> trying now
[15:26] <foo38> Krishnand: install imagemagick then run convert -quality XX input.jpg output.jpg
[15:26] <moriramar> Excuse me. I need to change root password of my x86_64 system from a x86 LiveCD. While I am told that chroot does not work, shall I use "passwd -r /mnt/root/etc/shadow root"?
[15:26] <Sekkuar> hi, which is the right room for me to get some help?
[15:27] <modonovan> Sekkuar: what you need help with
[15:27] <Sekkuar> its an error message I get when I try to run libreoffice, I can't seem to fix it
[15:28] <ashka_> hi, I have reformated my computer in a strange way
[15:28] <ashka_> and my /boot is now /dev/sdb3
[15:28] <ashka_> but in gparted, it's on the 2nd place starting from top
[15:28] <ashka_> so what should be set root ?
[15:28] <ashka_> (hd1,3) or (hd1,2) ?
[15:29] <modonovan> Sekkuar: what's the error
[15:29] <Sekkuar> javaldx: Could not find a Java Runtime Environment!
[15:29] <Sekkuar> Please ensure that a JVM and the package libreoffice-java-common
[15:29] <Sekkuar> is installed.
[15:29] <Sekkuar> If it is already installed then try removing ~/.libreoffice/3/user/config/javasettings_Linux_*.xml
[15:29] <suigeneris> glebihan: there are no instructions for mountibd /dev
[15:29] <suigeneris> mounting*
[15:30] <Sekkuar> and yes, I have a jdk installed and configured, and I downloaded the package with sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-java-common
[15:30] <Sekkuar> I deleted that file, and it still doesn't works
[15:30] <drussell> Sekkuar: when did the problem start?
[15:30] <glebihan> suigeneris, oh didn't notice that, sorry
[15:31] <glebihan> suigeneris, do the same as for proc
[15:31] <Sekkuar> even since I installed ubuntu pretty much. two weeks ago
[15:31] <modonovan> anyone know my my dvd drive my know be recognised at boot but works fine within natty?
[15:31] <modonovan> that's odd Sekkuar
[15:31] <drussell> Sekkuar: fresh install or upgrade?
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> Sekkuar: do you need java in openoffice? It is disablable you know
[15:32] <Sekkuar> it was fresh, I installed alongside windows 7
[15:32] <modonovan> very strange
[15:32] <suigeneris> glebihan: mount: /dev is not a block device
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> modonovan: so it can be booted from but not recognised in the OS
[15:32] <todolnx> hi
[15:32] <modonovan> ActionParsnip: other way around oddly
[15:32] <Sekkuar> and... i'm not sure if I need java
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> Sekkuar: disabling it makes it run faster too
[15:32] <tpe> disablable = new favourite word.
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> modonovan: then I suggest you ask in ##hardware
[15:33] <Sekkuar> i'm developing an java app which used the openoffice API
[15:33] <todolnx> im noob to linux
[15:33] <Sekkuar> so, I guess I do need it
[15:33] <Phong_> hi guys, how to install rmp file ?
[15:33] <modonovan> ActionParsnip: fair enoughski
[15:33] <Phong_> i have .rpm file how can i install it?
[15:33] <theadmin> Phong_: You should not!
[15:33] <theadmin> Phong_: It's dangerous and likely WILL break your system
[15:33] <todolnx> somebody help me
[15:33] <Phong_> really?
[15:33] <makara> Sekkuar: openoffice or libreoffice?
[15:33] <suigeneris> Phong_: use alien to convert in to .deb
[15:33] <Sekkuar> libreoffice
[15:33] <Sekkuar> 3.3.3
[15:33] <suigeneris> Phong_: and install that
[15:33] <Phong_> ok brb let me google
[15:34] <todolnx> pleaseeee some guy here!!!??
[15:34] <genii-around> todolnx: If you have a more specific question to ask, it might help :)
[15:34] <drussell> Phong_: ideally find a .deb file, but if you're really desperate, you could start looking at alien
[15:34] <oCean> !alien | Phong_
[15:34] <suigeneris> !ask | todolnx
[15:35] <drussell> modonovan: so you're saying it can't be booted from but ubuntu see's it fine? probably a bios setting (cdrom not selected as bootable)
[15:35] <Phong_> thanks i install the deb version..thanks alot it run now
[15:35] <todolnx> how can i instal it
[15:35] <suigeneris> todolnx: install what?
[15:36] <genii-around> todolnx: The most common way is to download the iso file, which you make into a cd. then you set your computer to boot from the cd, and install your linux that way.
[15:36] <suigeneris> glebihan: so, what do I do?
[15:36] <Sekkuar> i just find it weird. even though it gives a message saying java is not working, my app does run normaly as it should
[15:36] <modonovan> drussell: that's what i'm thinking alright
[15:36] <Sekkuar> so, I don't know if that message is legit or not
[15:37] <Phong_> ok i install realvnc server enterprise ...anyone know how i can configure it?
[15:37] <Phong_> in windows it run as service
[15:37] <suigeneris> Phong_: to act as a server_
[15:37] <suigeneris> ?
[15:37] <genii-around> todolnx: The page for selecting which cd image of Ubuntu you would like to download is at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[15:37] <Phong_> yes
[15:38] <suigeneris> Phong_: there is vino for that
[15:38] <Phong_> i wan tto configure to have password
[15:38] <Phong_> not sure where i can bring up the configuration screen
[15:38] <Phong_> i'm not good at ubuntu
[15:38] <suigeneris> Phong_: go to System > Pereferences > Remote Desktop
[15:38] <Phong_> ok
[15:38] <drussell> Sekkuar: have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure libreoffice-base
[15:39] <Sekkuar> nope, let me try that
[15:39] <drussell> Sekkuar: sorry, should be libreoffice-base-core
[15:39] <suigeneris> I think glebihan is dead
[15:40] <Sekkuar> okay, I tried it, and it's same
[15:40] <Phong_> suigeneris, i thought it should be realvnc config screen
[15:40] <Phong_> this is complicated man..w
[15:41] <Phong_> in windows, i install real vnc and i saw it on the lower icon
[15:41] <Phong_> anyone help?
[15:42] <Phong_> brb
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> strange boy
[15:43] <Sekkuar> so, lets try something different: how I disable java on libreoffice?
[15:43] <SystemDefault0> Phong_: Well, I have just arrived. So I could help you, if you tell me your problem.
[15:43] <ultrixx> Phong_: are you the one who created phong shading?
[15:43] <theadmin> Sekkuar: You can't, and it brings a ton of problems... You should install Java
[15:44] <Sekkuar> I hava java already
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> SystemDefault0: its some vnc thing
[15:44] <Sekkuar> dev@Desenvolvimento:/home/nucleos/Produção$ java -version
[15:44] <Sekkuar> java version "1.7.0"
[15:44] <Sekkuar> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0-b147)
[15:44] <Sekkuar> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 21.0-b17, mixed mode, sharing)
[15:44] <FloodBot1> Sekkuar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:44] <SystemDefault0> ultrixx: Ha! Good question!
[15:44] <marklinwinona> Hello
[15:45] <ultrixx> SystemDefault0: thanks
[15:45] <marklinwinona> ubuntu newbie with permissions questions.
[15:46] <PhoenixSTF> marklinwinona, what questions?
[15:46] <PhoenixSTF> marklinwinona, just ask them dont say you have them
[15:47] <marklinwinona> How do I get control of root so I can install fonts I need?
[15:47] <hwilde> !sudo | marklinwinona
[15:47] <Gentoo64> marklinwinona, are they downloaded fonts?
[15:47] <Gentoo64> if so they can be placed in a local .fonts folder
[15:47] <marklinwinona> Yes, something I downloaded for a project.
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> marklinwinona: use:  sudo -i
[15:48] <Gentoo64> as normal user do mkdir .fonts then place them in there
[15:48] <PhoenixSTF> Gentoo64, I didn't know that ty ;)
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> !fonts
[15:48] <Gentoo64> marklinwinona, but they will only be available for normal user
[15:48] <JillesCode> guys, I need help. im tryin to make a scanner server
[15:48] <JillesCode> simple scan detects my server, but Scanner Server doesn't :(
[15:49] <PhoenixSTF> JillesCode, what server you have on the scanner?
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> JillesCode: http://ubuntu.online02.com/linux_scan_server
[15:49] <marklinwinona> Thanks, folks! I will try those recommendations and be back later.
[15:50] <Sekkuar> maybe that have anything to do with the fact I installed oracle's JVM over the default OpenJDK JVM?
[15:50] <jkolash> Does anyone know anything about /etc/profile.d in ubuntu? It doesn't seem to get loaded when I open a new shell.
[15:50] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip: I get this: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?). and yes, /dev is mountes
[15:50] <suigeneris> mounted*
[15:50] <JillesCode> ActionParsnip i did that, simple scan DOES detect the right scanner, however Linux Scan Server doens't
[15:51] <PhoenixSTF> JillesCode, you using sane?
[15:52] <JillesCode> dunno, I do have the sane-utils installed
[15:52] <drussell> Sekkuar: ahhh almost certainly
[15:52] <JillesCode> i think the problem is here
[15:53] <JillesCode> "adduser: The group `scanner' does not exist.  "
[15:53] <Sekkuar> so it won't work with the new JVM?
[15:53] <drussell> Sekkuar: try running sudo update-java-alternatives
[15:53] <Sekkuar> I did that already
[15:53] <drussell> Sekkuar: which one did you select?
[15:53] <Sekkuar> oracle's one
[15:54] <drussell> Sekkuar: try setting it back to openjdk
[15:54] <drussell> Sekkuar: and see if it works then
[15:54] <Arney> is it me, or is firefox extremely buggy on ubuntu? Right clicking sometimes disappears, the address and search bar don't click sometimes.
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> Sekkuar: do you need java in openoffice?
[15:54] <Gentoo64> Arney, sounds like a mouse issue
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> Arney: which version?
[15:54] <Langly> Arney, you need to think in russian to operate firefox
[15:55] <Arney> 6 version. My mouse is new.
[15:55] <Sekkuar> nope, same thing
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> Arney: and of ubuntu?
[15:55] <Sekkuar> and yes, I think I need
[15:55] <Arney> Hatty warhal
[15:55] <Gentoo64> Arney, when you click and drag windows around do they sometimes stop moving?
[15:55] <Arney> Narwhal... I keep gettin git messed up.
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> Sekkuar: if you don't know then you most likely don't use it
[15:55] <jpds> Langly: Not... really.
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> !info firefox
[15:55] <Arney> Gentoo64: not really... it usually works.
[15:55] <Sekkuar> the thing is: i'm a java developer, using the openoffice API for java
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> Arney: does it happen in other apps?
[15:56] <Sekkuar> so, mostl likely I need java for it, no?
[15:56] <Gentoo64> Arney, ok just i had mouse problems in linux before. something to do with the clicking timing
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> Sekkuar: ahhhh i see
[15:56] <bitcycle> Hey all.  Can someone help me understand how IP aliasing works?  I can find by searching how to do it, but I'm trying to understand it better.
[15:56] <Arney> Ive noticed that desktop switching engages alot of my issues... yes it does actually.
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> bitcycle: i'd ask in ##networking
[15:56] <Arney> Although it happens more often in firefox... prolly because I use it more often.
[15:56] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip: can you help?
[15:56] <bitcycle> ActionParsnip: Yep,  Alrighty.
[15:56] <Sekkuar> but even with that error message, it works fine
[15:56] <Gentoo64> Arney, yea it seems a mouse issue, not sure how to resolve i tthough :( its happened to a lot of people iwth new mice
[15:56] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip: I get this: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?). and yes, /dev is mounted
[15:57] <Gentoo64> Arney, new and old mice
[15:57] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip: outside the chroot though
[15:57] <Arney> Gentoo64: Now that you mention it. I'm using alot of custom buttons on my mice.
[15:57] <Phong_> suigeneris, i'm back
[15:57] <Arney> Gentoo64: Ill try not using them, see what happens.
[15:57] <Sekkuar> !pidgin
[15:57] <SystemDefault0> Gentoo64: I guess that's not an issue. That happens in versions like 9.10 and 10.04. Sometimes the mouse gets freeze in the screen. That happened to me.
[15:58] <Phong_> le tme log back in with ubuntu xchat
[15:58] <Phong_> bye
[15:58] <PhoenixSTF> JillesCode, hmmm
[15:58] <Gentoo64> Arney, im not sure about custom buttons. if you can, try another mouse. i had issues on and off with mine but theyve gone away randomly recently
[15:58] <PhoenixSTF> JillesCode, wait a sec
[15:58] <JillesCode> okie
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> pidgin is awesome
[15:58] <fasta> Does the fglrx driver work with Ubuntu LTS 10.04?
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> fasta: yes
[15:58] <phong_> i'm back
[15:58] <Sekkuar> i'm using it now :3
[15:58] <fasta> ActionParsnip: is there also OpenCL support?
[15:59] <SystemDefault0> Arney: Hatty warhal? What is that?
[15:59] <Sekkuar> I was looking for a plugin to group all the messages from the same person
[15:59] <phong_> suigeneris, show me how to configure realvnc now
[15:59] <rahah> Anyone know how to get those weird gtk2 scrollbars to go back to normal-like while still using the same theme? I'd think it's just a weird gtk thing, but debian didn't do that. Then it ate itself and died horribly, but that's neither here nor there...
[15:59] <Arney> SystemDefault0: The most common mistake of the year.
[15:59] <Sekkuar> I had it before, but I dont remember which was anymore
[15:59] <suigeneris> phong_: you wanted a vnc server, and I showed you one
[15:59] <PhoenixSTF> JillesCode, do # sane-find-scanner
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> fasta: assuming your chip is supported by the driver, yes
[16:00] <taowa> !cloak
[16:00] <SystemDefault0> Arney: Hahahaha!
[16:00] <phong_> suigeneris, isn't it RealVNC ?
[16:00] <phong_> www.realvnc.com
[16:01] <suigeneris> phong_: no, it's vino
[16:01] <phong_> that is the one i download ...a trial for realvnc server enterprise for linux
[16:01] <phong_> why i can't use RealVnc?
[16:01] <suigeneris> phong_: I think the built-in will be sufficient to you
[16:01] <fasta> ActionParsnip: and can one install the latest ATI driver on 10.04? Basically ATI always releases a crappy driver, with every new driver being slighty less bad than the previous one.
[16:01] <PhoenixSTF> JillesCode, call me when you have done it
[16:02] <phong_> suigeneris, what if i want to use on different port?
[16:02] <phong_> i know realvnc allow me to change the ports
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> fasta: i couldn't comment there. I don't use ati stuffs
[16:02] <Gentoo64> phong_, i dont know a lot about vnc but im guessing youll be able  to change ports on most vnc apps
[16:03] <albech> where to ask VLAN and network questions?
[16:03] <phong_> hmm
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> albech: ##networking
[16:03] <albech> ActionParsnip, thanks
[16:03] <suigeneris> phong_: no idea about that.
[16:03] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip: can you help?
[16:04] <Faustus2> is it posible to configure the calendar that appears when clicking the date in ubuntu, to start with monday?
[16:04] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip: I get this: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?). and yes, /dev is mounted but outside the chroot
[16:05] <Gentoo64> Faustus2, http://askubuntu.com/questions/6016/how-to-set-monday-as-the-first-day-of-the-week-in-gnome-calendar-applet
[16:05] <Gentoo64> i think thta still applies
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: I'm not great at grub, all I know is that guide
[16:06] <suigeneris> !grub2
[16:06] <Sekkuar> oh yeah, I remembered one thing I wanted to ask
[16:06] <Sekkuar> does grub works with free bsd?
[16:06] <usr13> phong_: Are you looking for recommendation for VNC server / client?
[16:07] <usr13> phong_: If so, x11vnc and tightvnc
[16:07] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip: what do I use instead of "find boot/grub/stage1" in grub2? do you know
[16:07] <suigeneris> ?
[16:07] <Gentoo64> Sekkuar, yes but
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: that link I gave relates to grub2, you'll need to mount the partition first so you can use it
[16:09] <Sekkuar> Gentoo64 but?
[16:09] <andrijko> hello All - does anybody know how to connect(from Ubuntu1) to remote camera on Ubuntu2 and used it in ex. Skype - it is even possible ?
[16:09] <Gentoo64> Sekkuar, sorry didnt mean to say that
[16:09] <Faustus2> Gentoo64: thanks sir!
[16:09] <bcorne> Hi
[16:09] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip: and I get this: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?). and yes, /dev is mounted but outside the chroot when I attempt grub-install in chroot
[16:10] <Sekkuar> okay, then? it works?
[16:10] <bcorne> I accidentially firewalled my pc (iptables -F without other commands done after it)
[16:10] <Gentoo64> Sekkuar, apparently yes. never tried freebsd myself
[16:10] <Sekkuar> I want to install windows 7 alongside free bsd alongside ubuntu
[16:10] <bcorne> (yes, call me noob or w/e, but I need to fix this)
[16:10] <Gentoo64> 3 os's to maintain nice
[16:10] <Sekkuar> I guess I should install them in this order so grub can configure itself right. right?
[16:10] <Gentoo64> Sekkuar, install ubuntu last
[16:11] <daydr3amer> hey all i have a problem with my brothers computer. i have updated his 10.10 to 11.04 and the mono-runtime had an errorcode 2 and now i can not install anything else because mono-runtime is blocking it. apt-get -f install did not help.
[16:11] <Gentoo64> Sekkuar, but any reason for triple boot, oither than messing about?
[16:11] <Sekkuar> yeah, I want make sure my app runs on all plataforms (except MAC OX, hate apple!)
[16:11] <Gentoo64> ok
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> Sekkuar: install windows but leave some space unpartitioned, then install either ubuntu or bsd, but leave space unpartitioned for the next OS. I suggest you make the BSD partition as primary then an extended partition for Ubuntu's /  and swap. You can use the same swap space in BSD and Ubuntu, keeps partitions down
[16:12] <nimbiotics> Hello evry1. (using 11.04) I just installed a logitech dual action game pad on my system, but I dont know how to make it work. None of the help I've found so far on the internet seems to work, please help. TIA!!
[16:12] <Sekkuar> oh really? I didnt know that. so I need only one swap?
[16:12] <Gentoo64> Sekkuar, swap can be shared
[16:12] <Gentoo64> Sekkuar, or if you know its ok you can disable swap
[16:13] <daydr3amer> hey all i have a problem with my brothers computer. i have updated his 10.10 to 11.04 and the mono-runtime had an errorcode 2 and now i can not install anything else because mono-runtime is blocking it. apt-get -f install did not help.
[16:13] <Sekkuar> if the freebsd swap is already there, ubuntu will know it when I start installing? will it use shared or I need configure it myself?
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> Sekkuar: sure, use custom partitioning and you can tell ubuntu to use the same partition easily :)
[16:14] <usr13> Sekkuar: I think you'll have to tell it to use the swap partition.
[16:15] <usr13> Sekkuar: If you don't tell it to, it will create another one.
[16:15] <Gentoo64> not with custom partitions
[16:15] <Gentoo64> or will it?
[16:15] <Sekkuar> but, if I tell it to use the swap on the same partion there, wont it break bsd's swap?
[16:15] <Gentoo64> Sekkuar, no
[16:16] <Gentoo64> because your not booted into both at same time
[16:16] <Gentoo64> its like having a shared data partition basically
[16:16] <Sekkuar> right, that makes sense
[16:16] <Sekkuar> yeah, I need to that too
[16:16] <Sekkuar> I'll leave like... 50gb for each OS, and a partition for data
[16:16] <Sekkuar> to be shared
[16:16] <Gentoo64> up to you
[16:18] <Sekkuar> now, this makes me mad
[16:18] <Sekkuar> http://openjdk.java.net/install/
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> Sekkuar: plan your partitions so you knwo what's what
[16:18] <Asad2005> How reliable is smartctl, If it said disk failer expected ? Should i replace my disk ?
[16:18] <Sekkuar> it says to run sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk, but when I run it, says the package doesn't exists
[16:19] <Gentoo64> Asad2005, try running fsck if thats fine i wouldnt worry about them warnings
[16:19] <Gentoo64> theyre so random
[16:19] <iceroot> Sekkuar: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk
[16:19] <iceroot> Sekkuar: there is no version 7 in the 11.04 repos
[16:19] <poison> my os is very slow
[16:20] <Gentoo64> poison, whats the comp like?
[16:20] <poison> terminal is opening after 1 minute
[16:20] <Sekkuar> yes. that's how i'm planning it: it's a 650gb disk. so, 50gb for windows, 49,5gb for freebsd, 49,5gb for ubuntu, 1gb for swap and 500gb for data (if my math not fails me)
[16:20] <Gentoo64> poison, maybe your eating into swap?
[16:20] <Sekkuar> yeah, but I wanted the version 7
[16:20] <poison> thanks in advance
[16:20] <Asad2005> Gentoo64: the disk is of a raidz1 in solaris but i am testing with ubuntu live cd. Would fsck be ok
[16:20] <Sekkuar> version 6 comes by default with the installation
[16:20] <poison> its amd 64 bit with 40 gb hard disk
[16:21] <Gentoo64> Asad2005, no idea about raid. but its only checking the fs
[16:21] <poison> its a comp with 80 gb sata disk and 40 gb ied disk
[16:21] <poison> sata is having two partions
[16:21] <Gentoo64> Asad2005, i just know for sure that smart status is unreliable
[16:21] <poison> 1 is 30 with vista and second is 50gb free and ubuntu installed on 40 gb ied disk
[16:21] <Gentoo64> poison, how much ram?
[16:22] <Sekkuar> iceroot: the openjdk site says that should work on ubuntu http://openjdk.java.net/install/
[16:22] <poison> 2 gb
[16:22] <lonewulf`> can anyone tell me when 11.10 will be "out"?
[16:22] <iceroot> Sekkuar: not with the ubuntu-repos
[16:22] <iceroot> Sekkuar: why you need version 7?
[16:22] <Sekkuar> october most liekly
[16:22] <iceroot> lonewulf`: #ubuntu+1
[16:22] <poison> Gentoo64--2gb
[16:22] <bubu\a> is it better to have one ssh key for each of your servers or 1 key for all servers?
[16:23] <lonewulf`> Sekkuar, iceroot tyvm
[16:23] <Sekkuar> ideroot: because i'm developing... and I was using 7 on windows, so now my project only runs on version 7
[16:23] <Gentoo64> poison, try running the system monitor and see if anythings using it. does it still go slow after a reboot?
[16:23] <poison> sure
[16:23] <drussell> Gentoo64 / Asad2005 : wrt smartctl, it's usually a good indicator
[16:24] <drussell> Asad2005: if you're concerned, the manufacturer of the disk usually has some disk diagnostics also (some of them on a livecd)
[16:24] <iceroot> Sekkuar: https://launchpad.net/~openjdk/+archive/ppa
[16:24] <iceroot> Sekkuar: that ppa is holding version 7
[16:24] <bubu\a> is it better to have one ssh key for each of your servers or 1 key for all servers??
[16:24] <drussell> Asad2005: that's the definitive test, as they will usually alert you if there's a disk error that you can raise an RMA for
[16:24] <Gentoo64> bubu\a, im guessing 1 for each would be more secure, but for all would be easier
[16:24] <poison> Gentoo64---when i open system moniter, except system moniter no process is taking much resources
[16:24] <Sekkuar> iceroot: cool! and how I use that server to download it?
[16:24] <iceroot> Sekkuar: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:openjdk/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk
[16:24] <Gentoo64> poison, no idea than :s
[16:25] <Gentoo64> poison, try dmesg but i doubt itll say much
[16:25] <poison> Gentoo64----no issues...thanks for trying to help me
[16:26] <Sekkuar> iceroot: uh oh... failed 404 not found T_T
[16:26] <poison> anyone having idea, why  my unity is not working....its direct taking me to ubuntu classic
[16:26] <xibalba> hey all, i recently added another network card to my ubuntu server. it had 2 cards to start, then i added a NIC card with dual ports on it. now one of my NIC interfaces is showing up as eth1_rename  , how do i fix this
[16:26] <poison> Gentoo64---just 'dmesg' code?
[16:26] <Gentoo64> poison, are you using the proper graphics drivers?
[16:26] <Sekkuar> poison: because unity sucks. that's why
[16:26] <iceroot> Sekkuar: hm
[16:26] <Gentoo64> xibalba, rename it to eth2
[16:27] <Gentoo64> or whatever
[16:27] <xibalba> unsure how, any thoughts?
[16:27] <poison> actually problem started after installing ati drivers....ofcourse they are not now...i've uninstalled them...still unity not working
[16:27] <Gentoo64> i think you can do it from the net manager cant you?
[16:27] <xibalba> i'm on the server command line
[16:27] <Gentoo64> poison, no idea. i hear people have problems with ubnity and gpu all the time
[16:28] <Sekkuar> yeah, unity breaks a lot
[16:28] <poison> okay
[16:28] <Gentoo64> poison, id install the prop driver and use classic tbh
[16:28] <Gentoo64> you wont miss much
[16:28] <poison> can you plz suggest me a driver for my AMD athlon 64
[16:29] <Gentoo64> you dont need one
[16:29] <Sekkuar> I had finally fixed my unity after three days, then it just broke again
[16:29] <Gentoo64> the cpus support is in the kernel
[16:29] <iceroot> Sekkuar: working fine here
[16:29] <xibalba> any docs on renaming the eth interface
[16:29] <iceroot> Sekkuar: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:openjdk/ppa
[16:29] <Gentoo64> xibalba, you need symbolic links
[16:30] <Gentoo64> like ln -s eth2 eth0
[16:30] <xibalba> really? thats kind of weird
[16:30] <Sekkuar> iceroot: that's weird. mine says  http://ppa.launchpad.net/gdm2setup/gdm2setup/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[16:30] <genii-around> xibalba: You can also edit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules to switch up the ordering of their numbers
[16:31] <poison> what is best bit torrent client to use with natty?
[16:31] <iceroot> Sekkuar: from what command is that error? the add of the ppa?
[16:31] <KM0201> !best | poison
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> Sekkuar: ppa only supports up to Lucid
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> Sekkuar: http://ppa.launchpad.net/gdm2setup/gdm2setup/ubuntu/dists/#
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> oops
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> http://ppa.launchpad.net/gdm2setup/gdm2setup/ubuntu/dists/
[16:32] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: ah ok
[16:32] <Sekkuar> what's a lucid?
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> Sekkuar: 10.04 release
[16:32] <usr13> !torrent | poison
[16:32] <Babboon4U> a lucid dream
[16:32] <xibalba> i should have just installed the box with all the cards in it
[16:32] <KM0201> Sekkuar: lucid is a state of mind.
[16:33] <Sekkuar> oh. so, it means I wont be able to install on 11.04?
[16:33] <poison> ubottu, thank you
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> Sekkuar: the ppa doesn't support natty
[16:33] <KM0201> why would you not be able to install 11.04?
[16:33] <KM0201> oh wait, didn't know this was PPA related
[16:34] <poison> as im new to ubuntu and linux i may ask some small doubts too...i request all ppl on this to co operate me
[16:34] <poison> thanks
[16:34] <poison> how do i instlal firefox 5.0
[16:34] <Sekkuar> poison: LOL, really? all people?
[16:34] <Sekkuar> !firefox
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> poison: what is the output of:  lsb_release -c
[16:34] <poison> firefox 6.0 is already installed
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> poison: so you want the older version?
[16:34] <KM0201> so why would you want 5.0?
[16:35] <alphaG> hi
[16:35] <poison> 6.0 is beta version right
[16:35] <poison> thts the reason i want to intall the 5.0 as its reliable
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> poison: what is the output of the command I gave please
[16:36] <MATAH> poison, 6 is stable, 7 is beta now
[16:36] <poison> ActionParsnip, natty
[16:36] <alphaG> i'm new to ubunto (nix in general) i've created the simplest of scripts. called it test.sh , it does export EDITOR=testing , i ran it with ./test.sh from it's dir, and then sued printenv EDITOR to see if the value was changed. Nothing. No error... ideas please
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> poison: grab the compressed archive for 5 and extract it to a folder in /opt you can then symlink the executable to /usr/bin/firefox-5.0
[16:37] <poison> ActionParsnip, I've double checked it...result is "natty'
[16:38] <Sekkuar> alphaG: go to properties of the file, and mark it to be allowed to be executed as a program
[16:38] <troete> hey guys - how can i control the screenbacklight of a laptop via the cli? is it eve possible?
[16:38] <poison> ActionParsnip, thts a rocket science for me
[16:38] <poison> can you plz explain it further
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> poison: find the file online then come back to us
[16:39] <alphaG> Sekkuar: i forgot i did that, and also verified
[16:39] <alphaG> using chmod 700
[16:39] <poison> any idea where i can find that archive file for 5.0
[16:39] <MATAH> alphaG, your script sets up  its own environment, not your shell's
[16:39] <alphaG> (forgot to mention)
[16:39] <poison> will it be available on any download site
[16:40] <Sekkuar> poison: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/install-firefox-5-in-ubuntu-1104.html
[16:40] <Sekkuar> no wait
[16:40] <Sekkuar> nevermind that link
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> Sekkuar: i'll write you a script if you want..
[16:42] <pzn> My natty64bits is "locking" screen every about 30 minutes... many times it locks just when I type user/login after booting. loggin via ssh, I can see about 20 processes gvfs-gdu-volume-monitor in the "disk-waiting" status. need to solve this... where to start from?
[16:42] <Sekkuar> ActionParsnip: yes, please
[16:42] <poison> Sekkuar, do I enter the code in Terminal?
[16:42] <alphaG> MATAH: ok, so how do i force it to run in my shell?
[16:42] <xibalba> whats the easiest way to rename this interface
[16:42] <Sekkuar> poison: did you read the part I said "nevermind that link"?
[16:42] <xibalba> so i can have eth0, eth1, eth2, and eth3
[16:43] <xibalba> i already have all except eth3
[16:43] <xibalba> eth3 was renamed to eth1_rename
[16:43] <Sekkuar> poison: it means I sent wrong, sorry
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> Sekkuar: gimme a sec
[16:43] <poison> Sekkuar: no sorries
[16:43] <xibalba> i've never seen a nix do this style of ethernet renaming
[16:44] <xibalba> but i mostly use BSD so it's way different
[16:44] <luigi> xibalba: Pretty sure you can add a udev rule to do that.
[16:44] <xibalba> could you link me to a document, i'm unfamliiar with udev
[16:44] <xibalba> been living under my BSD rock for a while
[16:44] <luigi> Oh fff, I'm sorry. This is #ubuntu. I'm not sure if ubuntu has udev support.
[16:45] <xibalba> hmm, square 1 i suppose
[16:45] <poison> is chromium is best or firefox?
[16:45] <poison> sorry.....is chromium is fast browser or firefox?
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> Sekkuar: http://pastebin.com/cXhhSURZ
[16:45] <luigi> xibalba: Nevermind. It's there. :) http://www.debianadmin.com/rename-network-interface-using-udev-in-linux.html
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> poison: in my opinion, yes
[16:45] <GatorAlli> How can I bind the nice new "scale" effect in Unity to my middle mouse button?
[16:45] <luigi> xibalba: s/debian/ubnutu and you're all set.
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> poison: i find chromium faster
[16:46] <xibalba> luigi , i haven't had a need for udev to be installed on any of my other servers. i'm almost willing to just format this thing
[16:46] <xibalba> the other boxes i install ubuntu with all the cards present in it
[16:46] <xibalba> this is the only one i installed ubuntu, then added on the 2port nic after
[16:46] <luigi> xibalba: Format it and install something new, I guess.
[16:47] <poison> ActionParsnip:  :-) i do same...thts the reason i installed chromium and kicked out firefox.....it gave me lot of problems two hours back
[16:47] <MATAH> alphaG, if u want set up some environment variables, write them down in a file in the form "VAR1=val1;VAR2=val2" and do `< file`
[16:47] <xibalba> i prefer BSD's method of NIC naming
[16:47] <Babboon> kde questions ok?
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> Babboon: sure
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> Sekkuar: if you read the commands, its quite simple
[16:49] <luigi> xibalba: If you like BSD, go to arch linux.
[16:49] <xibalba> can't ubuntu is the only platform supported by my voip vendor
[16:49] <Babboon> In kde on my first virtual desktop the top toolbox bar wont pull up add widgets or activities but the 2nd virtual desktop works fine
[16:49] <Sekkuar> yes, thank you
[16:49] <Babboon> the menu pulls up but does nothing when i click on it
[16:49] <MATAH> alphaG, pardon. file content must look like "export VAR=val;export VAL2=val2"
[16:51] <balooo> hi, I'm having problem reading a file with some applications, although it works fine in others.  So vim / gedit open it fine,  but when I open it in eclispe it's just a bunch of chinese charaters
[16:51] <poison> to all people who can help me in this regards.....the scenario is   1)my computer is having two hards disks one is sata disk for windows and another one is ied disk is for ubuntu...whenever i want to login into ubuntu i use bios option to boot from the ubuntu disk (2) when ever i need to use my usb modem on ubuntu first I need to login into windows and then restart windows and login into ubuntu or else the modem will not be detected by bios .....any solution
[16:51] <poison> s?
[16:52] <MATAH> balooo, maybe change character set in eclipse?
[16:52] <pzn> in natty, know the "poweroff menu" at screen top right? when I click on it, it shows "label empty / suspend / hibernate / reboot / shutdown" (I'm using translated to portuguese) but "label empty" is really showing for "logout"... what package is missing or should be reinstalled?
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> balooo: are you fully updated
[16:52] <jackoriper> video buffer file is not getting created in one of my laptops, in other its getting created, that is in tmp folder , why its not getting created ...any help
[16:52] <jackoriper> im using firefox 3.6
[16:52] <alphaG> MATAH: i did exactly that..
[16:53] <balooo> yeah, but ideally i want to make this file "normal" (i know that means nothing) ...  My end goal isn't to make this file readable in eclipse.  I want it to be a standard utf-8 file
[16:54] <Sekkuar> poison: tried booting from ubuntu CD?
[16:54] <MATAH> alphaG, i did what i suggest to you and it works fine except u need to put each export to a new line
[16:54] <poison> yes
[16:55] <poison> Sekkuar: yes...same....after i connecting to internet on windows...then only the ubuntu will detect the connection and it connects to the internet
[16:55] <alphaG> MATAH: i sent you in pmsg the content of the file, its only a one line.
[16:58] <poison> Sekkuar: start pc--->select bios-->select windows---->connect to internet using modem---->after few minutes restart pc----->select ubuntu disk to boot from---->now modem will be dected and im with u ppl
[16:58] <ScottR4> Hi, I'm trying to learn bash by putting together a simple script that transforms all regex matches from a file's contents into an output file, but I can't figure out how to loop over regex matches in bash
[16:58] <Sekkuar> that's weird. never heard of something like that
[16:59] <Sekkuar> ScottR4 http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-7.html
[17:01] <ScottR4> Sekkuar: how do I get the results of the match, and then loop to the next match?
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> poison: what sort of modem?
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> ScottR4: I'd ask in #bash too
[17:02] <poison> its called tata photon usb cdma modem
[17:02] <poison> huawei ec156
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> poison: is it smoe 3g thing?
[17:02] <Sekkuar>  ScottR4 have no idea, just found that link for ya
[17:02] <poison> no not 3g
[17:02] <ScottR4> ActionParsnip: Probably a better choice, thanks :)
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> thought so, install usb-modeswitch if it isn't install
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> ed
[17:03] <poison> its cdma
[17:03] <rumpe1> ScottR4, can you put the script in a pastebin?
[17:03] <rumpe1> ScottR4, you know grep -o ?
[17:03] <Sekkuar> omg cdma modem? where do you live? africa? O_OI
[17:03] <poison> lol
[17:03] <poison> im from india
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> poison: all I can find is usb ones, is it a pcmcia device?
[17:04] <Sekkuar> oh. wow. cdma modems are so outdated, even here in brazil they are stopping using it
[17:04] <poison> no idea
[17:04] <Sekkuar> I guess you wont find a solution for this kind of technology
[17:04] <poison> GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5A9BF3BB4E5E17B5
[17:05] <ScottR4> rumpe1: there really isn't a script yet, other than the contents curl and the regex match. and no, I don't know grep -o
[17:05] <poison> what does above error mean? i get it when i enter "sudo apt-get update"
[17:06] <backbox> hh
[17:06] <dubbe> poison, there is a gpg-error for one of the repositories, try to unable em one by one and see when it works
[17:06] <dubbe> have you recently added some new repository?
[17:07] <ScottR4> rumpe1: there's no script just yet, just the content curl and the regex... that's where I got stuck
[17:09] <poison> dubbe: how do i do that
[17:09] <rumpe1> ScottR4, well.. if you want to collect the matches of <regex> on a <file1> with output in <file2> just do: grep -o <regex> file1 > file2  (maybe you need egrep with extended regex support)
[17:10] <ScottR4> rumpe1: any way to bypass having to stash the contents in a file? I'm currently retrieving them via curl
[17:11] <dubbe> poison: check /etc/apt/sources.lst there you can find all the repositories. (or in the /etc/apt folder)
[17:11] <rumpe1> ScottR4, sure:  curl <foo> | grep -o ....
[17:12] <mah454> Hello
[17:12] <ScottR4> rumpe1: I suddenly realize that my understanding of the pipe operator *sucks*. I thought that just passed the output from the pre-| command as input to the post-| command, and that in this case, that would make it a list of filenames
[17:13] <Sekkuar> mah454 hello
[17:14] <mah454> I download and install elementary sourcecode from daviantart.net . but after change theme ... nautilus not changed !
[17:14] <rumpe1> ScottR4, well... it does  (stdout->stdin). Why would it make a list of filenames? o.O
[17:14] <ScottR4> rumpe1: I missed the part where grep would read from stdin as the file contents and not a list of files
[17:15] <ScottR4> rumpe1: as for the o.0, that's how little I understood about |
[17:17] <epder> Hi. I am using ubuntu on a htpc. I cannot get the sound to work. I have connected a spdif from the htpc to the receiver but no digital sound. Does anyone know how I can fix that?
[17:18] <aaas> is there any program that will index pdfs, search inside them WITH a preview pane of the searched items.. like dtsearch for windows or google desktop but with previews?
[17:21] <ScatterBrain> Noobie Narly user here.  There used to be a way to show CPU use, etc in the bar at the top of Gnome.  How do I get that back?  (Using unity for now.)
[17:22] <dubbe> I am using ubuntu 11.04, some indicators doesn't show depending on the icon-theme... Does anyone have the same issue?
[17:22] <Sekkuar> type system monitor ScatterBrain
[17:22] <DrCode> hi all
[17:22] <Sekkuar> ScatterBrain alt+f2 then system monitor
[17:23] <DrCode> I  have two 80GB hdd, how can I make them into one 160GB?
[17:23] <poison> is linux having any download managers like DAP in windows?
[17:23] <aveng3r> why Boost.Process was not packaged in ubuntu packages?
[17:24] <ScatterBrain> Sekkuar: Yeah, I found that.  But there used to be a way where this info was displayed in small boxes in the (excuse me) "taskbar" at the top of the screen all the time.
[17:24] <theadmin> poison: jDownloader and gwget are worth checking
[17:24] <ScatterBrain> Sekkuar: Is that no longer available?
[17:25] <Sekkuar>  ScatterBrain I dunno about that. i'm using gnome right now and have no idea XD
[17:25] <Sekkuar> maybe its a plugin?
[17:25] <urlin2u> ScatterBrain, set up a conky for continuous observation
[17:27] <urlin2u> aveng3r, what are you talking about?
[17:28] <phong_> hello, can anyone guide me how to install Realvnc serrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrver enterprise and configure it?
[17:29] <phong_> oops
[17:29] <phong_> thank you so much
[17:29] <lars__> hi
[17:30] <ak1t3kt> howzit guys
[17:30] <aveng3r> urlin2u: I didn't found boost/process.hpp on my c++ include path, but i did install all ubuntu boost packages
[17:30] <tiresandplanes> Hello
[17:30] <lars__> i'm looking for documentation/source of the code in /etc/update-motd!
[17:31] <endip> wildbat, Just a heads up. Strangely enough, I was able to make my fan stop going crazy by enabling Power Save mode via my battery indicator applet. As soon as I take it off power save mode my fan and cpu start going crazy again.
[17:31] <jrib> lars__: man update-motd
[17:31] <daimerion> I did apt-get update then upgrade. afterwards I went to shutdown and just got black screen so I shut off my lappy. now it wont boot regular but recovery will boot. from reco I resumed normal boot and gave me command. I did sudo startx and the proper files appeared to load but then just blank screen. Help me please. im running mint 11 which is basically ubuntu with a diff ui
[17:32] <Soothsayer> Why do new directories and files I copy over to NTFS drives in Ubuntu get corrupt ?
[17:32] <Soothsayer> as soon as I come back to windows to access them, they're corrupt
[17:32] <lars__> jrib: thanks, it's part of base-files, but is there a seperate deb package?
[17:33] <rumpe1> !mint | daimerion
[17:33] <rumpe1> Soothsayer, corrupt files or corrupt filenames?
[17:33] <ScatterBrain> Sekkuar: urlin2u: This used to be as simple as a right-click on the taskbar.  Must be something that has been removed.
[17:33] <Sekkuar> perhaps
[17:34]  * ScatterBrain goes to inquire of the almighty Google.
[17:34] <Soothsayer> rumpe1, I'm not sure. For example, directories become files with no extensions and appear as Files.
[17:34] <urlin2u> ScatterBrain, the only add to panel now is 3rd party ppa's
[17:34] <roadfish> I could easily mount my 8GB NTFS memory card in the live-Ubuntu CD. But after installation, I get "Unprivileged user ... FUSE ... etc" error ... and have to mount with "sudo". How to I get mounting without sudo?
[17:34] <rumpe1> Soothsayer, how did you copy them?
[17:35] <Soothsayer> rumpe1, through normal copy paste?
[17:35] <lars__> I want to use update-motd in debian, so i'm looking for the source deb otherwise i'll port it
[17:35] <Soothsayer> from my ubuntu desktop to the mounted ntfs drive.
[17:35] <urlin2u> ScatterBrain, in unity, I believe the classic desktop as well.
[17:36] <Jcook_5xData> is there a way to remove unity and just keep gnome3
[17:36] <rumpe1> Soothsayer, which ubuntu exactly?
[17:36] <Soothsayer> rumpe1, 11.04
[17:36] <Soothsayer> rumpe1, I recall installing those ntfs utils to make NTFS drives accessible under Ubuntu
[17:36] <eydaimon> anyone familiar with getting daemontools running on ubuntu? I've followed the instrutions here: http://barkingiguana.com/2008/11/28/running-daemontools-under-ubuntu-810/  but daemontools is not running after reboot.
[17:36] <Soothsayer> I've been facing this problem since day 1.
[17:37] <Sekkuar> yes there is. I removed it
[17:37] <theadmin> eydaimon: What on EARTH for?
[17:37] <Soothsayer> and its caused me a lot of data loss!
[17:37] <Soothsayer> especially, my backups
[17:37] <theadmin> eydaimon: Just mount -o loop something.iso /media/whatever
[17:37] <luigi> Why is the 3.0 kernel going to be named 2.6.40?
[17:37] <eydaimon> theadmin: what?
[17:37] <eydaimon> theadmin: what are you talking about?
[17:38] <theadmin> eydaimon: Daemon tools
[17:38] <theadmin> eydaimon: There is no need. Linux can mount ISOs easily, it's got the functionality built right in
[17:38] <eydaimon> you're talking about Daemon Tools. Im talking about daemontools
[17:38] <rumpe1> Soothsayer, really strange. Maybe remount and try again.
[17:38] <genii-around> !iso
[17:38] <eydaimon> theadmin: http://cr.yp.to/daemontools.html
[17:39] <nimbiotics> Hello all. I'm trying to install Qjoypad. I downloaded the tar file, and uncompressed it, but when I try to run the ./config it tells me I need libxtst to compile this program. I went to the SPm and I noticed I've got libxtst6, libxext6 and libxext-dev installed; shouldn't that be what I need to install Qjoystick? TIA!
[17:39] <trism> luigi: it isn't? it is currently named 3.0.0-9 in oneiric
[17:39] <Soothsayer> rumpe1, I've tried too many times.
[17:39] <theadmin> eydaimon: Oh, something else then... Sorry, misunderstood. Geez. Such similar names
[17:39] <rumpe1> Soothsayer, or try other methods of copy (like via terminal)
[17:39] <eydaimon> theadmin: i'm surprised with your nick you don't know of it
[17:39] <topjbird> hello everyone
[17:39] <luigi> trism: I thought something was naming it 2.6.40... Nevermind. But I still dislike the extra 0 on the end. :(
[17:39] <theadmin> eydaimon: My nick means nothing at all :D
[17:39] <luigi> eydaimon: Just use sysV
[17:39] <Soothsayer> rumpe1, this is exactly what I'm facing: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1489573
[17:40] <trism> luigi: it was causing a bunch of bugs to pop up with programs expecting 3 elements to the version (it was only 3.0 earlier in the cycle)
[17:40] <eydaimon> luigi: how?
[17:40] <luigi> eydaimon: Look into upstart for daemonizing things.
[17:40] <eydaimon> upstart?
[17:40] <eydaimon> ok
[17:40] <theadmin> eydaimon: That's the Ubuntu's replacement for SysVInit
[17:40] <eydaimon> thanks
[17:41] <Soothsayer> rumpe1, do you think it's the ntfs packages i downloaded that is causing it ?
[17:41] <luigi> trism: How silly. Hardcode that in...
[17:42] <topjbird> I loaded edubuntu live version 11.04 on an 8gb  flash drive but it won't let me update because it says there's no room.  But it seems there is.
[17:42] <topjbird> It boots just fine from the drive
[17:42] <uburt> hello
[17:42] <lars__> Does anyone know how /etc/motd get refreshed?
[17:43] <topjbird> 'just won't let me update packages
[17:43] <eydaimon> luigi: I already have an upstart conf file for starting daemontools. it's in the URL i referenced when asking my question
[17:43] <eydaimon> luigi: any idea why it wouldn't run after a reboot?
[17:43] <luigi> eydaimon: You're running daemontools as a daemon to control other daemons so your daemons take orders from a daemon under a daemon system.
[17:43] <luigi> No wonder it's not working.
[17:44] <eydaimon> luigi: if you don't know, just say so
[17:44] <luigi> eydaimon: sudo service daemontools restart
[17:44] <luigi> eydaimon: less /var/log/syslog
[17:44] <luigi> Look for errors.
[17:44] <uburt> I have a problem with my resolution. I am using Nvidia and connecting to my Samsung T190 Syncmaster with a VGA cable because DVI port is dead. I am using NVIDIA's DVI output  with an adaptor
[17:45] <eydaimon> luigi:  I was using sudo initctl start svscanboot to start it. Is this different?
[17:45] <luigi> eydaimon: Hell yes. If it's integrated with upstart you should use service to manage it.
[17:45] <luigi> Or /etc/init.d/
[17:46] <eydaimon> luigi: upstart says to use /etc/init and the file I made is is /etc/init/svscanboot.conf
[17:46] <luigi> eydaimon: Then sudo service svscanboot restart
[17:46] <luigi> eydaimon: less /var/log/syslog
[17:46] <luigi> eydaimon: Look at your logs, or give them to us.
[17:46] <eydaimon> well, immdiate error
[17:47] <eydaimon> restart: Unknown instance:
[17:47] <luigi> s/restart/start then
[17:47] <topjbird> I loaded edubuntu on an 8gb flash drive and i can boot from it and everything but it won't let me update packages.  Says not enough room.  But it looks like there is.
[17:47] <eydaimon> now it worked
[17:47] <topjbird> Do I have to allocate more room
[17:47] <luigi> eydaimon: Read the logs.
[17:47] <eydaimon> luigi: ok, so obviously it worked with a manual start. so now why isn't it starting automatically during reboot?
[17:47] <luigi> eydaimon: You don't have symlinks to tell sysV to start it at boot.
[17:47] <eydaimon> er, or after reboot
[17:47] <eydaimon> ah
[17:48] <luigi> There's some command to do it automatically, one moment.
[17:48] <eydaimon> looks like /etc/init.d has symlinks for the name of th eprocess
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> topjbird: can you give a pastebin of the output of: dpkg -l | grep linux-image    Thanks
[17:49] <luigi> update-rc.d <script name> defaults
[17:49] <luigi> eydaimon: ^^
[17:49] <eydaimon> luigi:  thanks
[17:49] <cynicaloptimist> Can I get some help with installing software? I've downloaded a debian package but the Ubutu Software Centre isn't doing anything with it. The software centre opens, I click install, and then nothing happens.
[17:49] <topjbird> Action how do i do that exactly im new to linux
[17:49] <jackoriper> flash video buffer file is not getting created in one of my laptops, in other its getting created, that is in tmp folder , why its not getting created ...any help
[17:50] <uburt> any ideas how to fix the resolution and make ubuntu recognize my screen as LCD and not CRT?
[17:50] <cynicaloptimist> If I can't use the Software Centre, is there another good way to install a package from a .deb file? Perhaps via terminal?
[17:50] <BMJackal> hi, is there a way to format the partition Ubuntu is running on?
[17:50] <theadmin> cynicaloptimist: sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> topjbird: press CTRL+ALT+T and paste the comamnd there, copy the output and go to http://pastie.org  paste the text there and hit paste. When the page changes copy the address bar and paste THAT here
[17:51] <BMJackal> from the OS itself...
[17:51] <rumpel> BMJackal, while it's running?
[17:51] <BMJackal> yup
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> BMJackal: not possible while it's running, you'll need liveCD for it
[17:51] <LiranV> Someone can help me?
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> LiranV: ask and see
[17:51] <uburt> anyone?
[17:52] <BMJackal> ActionParsnip: that's the problem, I'm running a netbook with only SD cards and one USB slot and I can't use live distributions (won't load them)
[17:52] <topjbird> ok thx action
[17:52] <LiranV> I've got a problem that my ubuntu 11.04 won't automount usb mass storage devices automatically..
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> BMJackal: so you can't boot a USB device?
[17:52] <BMJackal> ActionParsnip: exactly. Ubuntu formatted the partition for data. it's a Tegra chip, so I can't access it directly
[17:53] <LiranV> no, its not it... my system already running ubuntu 11.04 but when I plug let's say a card reader it won't mount automatically
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> BMJackal: You'll need a different device then, you can't format mounted file systems
[17:53] <LiranV> I need to mount it manually..
[17:53] <LiranV> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11188858#post11188858
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> LiranV: when you take it out of the last device, what do you do?
[17:54] <BMJackal> ActionParsnip: is there a way to access partitions directly? as I said, it's a Tegra device which can be accessed only with nvflash from Nvidia
[17:54] <cynicaloptimist> theadmin: Thanks!
[17:54] <eydaimon> luigi: no luck even with that. I'll keep looking thru the docs. thanks
[17:54] <epder> Hi. I am using ubuntu on a htpc. I cannot get the sound to work. I have connected a spdif from the htpc to the receiver but no digital sound. Does anyone know how I can fix that?
[17:54] <luigi> eydaimon: Alright, Good luck.
[17:54] <LiranV> ActionParsnip, what do you mean?
[17:55] <luigi> epder: You can run either passthrough, or digital stereo on most cards only.
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> epder: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[17:55] <luigi> epder: Make sure you've configured it to use digital as the output in the sound conf. menu.
[17:55] <LiranV> I can see that the system see the usb device using lsusb command but it doesn't mount it
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> LiranV: what steps / do you do when you want to remove it from a system?
[17:55] <mah454> How can i upgrade only one package in debian ( with apt ) ?
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> mah454: debian isn't supported here
[17:56] <librarian-user01> hello everyone
[17:56] <mah454> ActionParsnip what ? ubuntu do not use apt command ?
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> mah454: yes it does
[17:57] <epder> luigi, Ive tried enabling iec958 which should be correct but it still aint working..
[17:57] <LiranV> when i connect my phone or DOK or card reader to my machine.. it just won't mount itself automatically..
[17:57] <mah454> ActionParsnip How can upgrade only on package in debian-base distrobusion ?
[17:57] <librarian-user01> got a mounting question for a flash drive -- I have a netbook that will not mount a particular sandisk flashdrive...but
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> mah454: again, debian isn't supported here, ask in #debian
[17:57] <luigi> epder: Then I don't know how to help, sorry.
[17:57] <cynicaloptimist> Okay, it's saying one of the modules isn't loaded, when I try to run the program.
[17:57] <K350> where do I set the amount of desktops in kubuntu?
[17:58] <mah454> ActionParsnip ohhhhh ... ! How can upgrade only on package in ubuntu ...
[17:58] <librarian-user01> if I mount -t vfat /mnt/sdb1 /media/tempdrive   it works
[17:58] <mah454> ActionParsnip ohhhhh ... ! How can upgrade only on package in ubuntu ... ?
[17:58] <epder> ActionParsnip, http://kojedahl.no/alsa-output.txt
[17:58] <cynicaloptimist> Okay, it's saying one of the modules isn't loaded, when I try to run the program.
[17:58] <BMJackal> mah454: I believe it's sudo apt-get update name_of_the_package?
[17:59] <Snarsh> I opened a djvu file on my ubuntu 11.04 install and it said it was an unknown file type, I then got booted to my login screen and when i logged in again Synaptic is recommending is install a ton of updates I know I've installed before, 173MB worth. What happened?
[17:59] <cynicaloptimist> During the installation I got an error message stating "dpkg: error processing [module name]
[17:59] <librarian-user01> so, if I eject the drive without dismounting, the drive will automatically add and mount on its own
[17:59] <XGaryG> I installed Ubuntu-One. What package to I need to install to have it sync my contacts?
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> epder: http://pastie.org/2434704
[17:59] <MTGap> I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 on an older toshiba laptop with ati graphics. I've been having some troubles where it would freeze, but I think I might have fix that with some boot options. Before when I tried to login to the default 'ubuntu' it said I didn't have compatible graphics. Now it lets me boot into it, but it looks exactly like 'ubuntu classic' and has no unity or desktop effects
[17:59] <librarian-user01> ^any idea on what I can do to make sure this drive automounts properly each time it is plugged in?
[17:59] <[THC]AcidRain> how do i fix the 11.04 issue where the drive will not automatically open after burning a dvd/cd?
[17:59] <LiranV> ActionParsnip, when i connect my phone or DOK or card reader to my machine.. it just won't mount itself automatically..
[18:00] <[THC]AcidRain> LiranV, librarian-user01 fstab
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> LiranV: you still haven't answered my question though
[18:01] <Slart> can people run glxgears with ubuntu 11.04 (nvidia graphics, unity disabled, compiz running) ? when I do it the window freezes and I have to do some ctrl+c magic
[18:01] <mah454> BMJackal thank you ... Ubuntu users is very Strict !
[18:01] <LiranV> [THC]AcidRain, in previous installation i didn't need to touch fstab... my dok just mounted itself automatically
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> Slart: works fine here
[18:01] <LiranV> ActionParsnip, what question?
[18:01] <[THC]AcidRain> LiranV, but like anything. the more advanced it gets, the more problems you will have out of it
[18:01] <Slart> ActionParsnip: which nvidia driver?
[18:02] <BMJackal> mah454: no problem, hope it helps
[18:02] <[THC]AcidRain> LiranV, i had the same issue. i just had to modify fstab for my needs. and it works perfect now
[18:02] <LiranV> [THC]AcidRain, im talking about the same ubuntu version..
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> Slart: 280 I think, I'm not at the system
[18:02] <LiranV> [THC]AcidRain, it worked before
[18:02] <[THC]AcidRain> ah. what version?
[18:02] <Snarsh> Is anyone aware of any viruses for Ubuntu spread through djvu files? I don't see anything online, but this djvu file apparently did something which makes my OS think I need to update everything I've ever downloaded before after it booted me to login.
[18:02] <Slart> ActionParsnip: but it's the proprietary nvidia driver?
[18:02] <[THC]AcidRain> LiranV, have you hooked your drive up to a windows computer lately?
[18:03] <LiranV> [THC]AcidRain, i had 11.04 then linux mint 11 then yesterday installed 11.04 again and it doesn't work..
[18:03] <K350> According to my panel ( Kubuntu ) I've 12 (!) desktops. How/where do I correct/adjust this?
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> Slart: oh yeah
[18:03] <Slart> ActionParsnip: ah.. thanks.. I'll see if I can threaten compiz into behaving
[18:03] <[THC]AcidRain> LiranV, sounds like the permissions got changed. have you checked permission on the drive?
[18:03] <Pinas> hello I hope somebody can help me. I try to get a virtual host to run on *:85, so i created a new virtual host under sites-available then I ran this setup command (i cant remember the name sry) and then I added Listen 85 and NameVirtualHost *:85 to the ports.conf
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> Slart: unlikely ;). I ditched it when I installed Oneiric
[18:04] <LiranV> permission to what? lets say: /dev/ssd1?
[18:04] <[THC]AcidRain> LiranV, thats my main issue, everytime i hook my drive up to a windows computer, i have to manually change its permissions again. just so my box will mount it. regardless if i use fstab or not
[18:04] <urlin2u> Snarsh, if there was one why would it just go after updates? make sure you hace it set up correctly.
[18:04] <Slart> ActionParsnip: mm.. I'm thinking about doing nasty things to it.. but "the shiny" is so addictive =)
[18:04] <urlin2u> have
[18:04] <[THC]AcidRain> ok look
[18:04] <epder> ActionParsnip, Its done. Reboot?
[18:04] <librarian-user01> [THC]AcidRain - my fstab shows /dev/sdb1 as mounted to the mount point /
[18:05] <[THC]AcidRain> LiranV, open up a terminal. goto cd /dev/sdb1
[18:05] <[THC]AcidRain> then type sudo ls- l
[18:05] <[THC]AcidRain> and copy to paste bin and post link
[18:05] <librarian-user01> i do have a device that is just showing the UUID with no other options
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> epder: no need, just try some sounds. itf it's no good, no harm in rebootingf
[18:06] <LiranV> [THC]AcidRain, copy what?
[18:06] <[THC]AcidRain> librarian-user01, im not sure. but that may be a permissions issue as well
[18:06] <[THC]AcidRain> copy the output
[18:06] <librarian-user01> other flash drives seem to mount fine
[18:06] <Snarsh> urlin2u: I don't know why it happened at all, I'm afraid the file installed something that will grab my pass when I log in with it or allow remote access. I also have no idea why mozilla automatically opened a djvu file I told it to save to the hard drive.
[18:06] <librarian-user01> it is just this one
[18:07] <[THC]AcidRain> librarian-user01, i rly think that both of you have the same issue
[18:07] <[THC]AcidRain> or at least this issue that im talking about is what i have experience with
[18:07] <[THC]AcidRain> anything outside of this i wont be able to help you
[18:07] <[THC]AcidRain> both of you: sudo ls -l /dev/[drive here]
[18:07] <[THC]AcidRain> copy and past the output of that command to pastebin
[18:08] <LiranV> [THC]AcidRain, brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 49 2011-08-26 19:39 /dev/sdd1
[18:08] <[THC]AcidRain> LiranV, and see, there is your problem
[18:08] <[THC]AcidRain> you need to change owner to your user name
[18:08] <eydaimon> luigi: is there seperate upstart documentation for ubuntu? Reading upstart.ubuntu.com and what's on Natty isn't following what the documentation is saying
[18:08] <librarian-user01> brw- rw---- 1 root disk 8, 17 2011-08-26 14:03 /dev/sdb1
[18:09] <[THC]AcidRain> librarian-user01, same issue for you. i was right
[18:09] <luigi> eydaimon: I don't know, honestly. I use arch linux now and we use BSD-style.
[18:09] <LiranV> [THC]AcidRain, using "chown"?
[18:09] <[THC]AcidRain> yeah. that should do it. let me check
[18:09] <librarian-user01> chown on what? does it need to be mounted?
[18:10] <epder> ActionParsnip, Still no sound. But in Spund preferences I dont get any hardware anymore. It was there earlier.
[18:10] <LiranV> [THC]AcidRain, but why it happens in the fist place? it wans't happening to me before with mint 11 or my last ubuntu install
[18:10] <[THC]AcidRain> librarian-user01, do "sudo fdisk -l" to find the mount point. and change it like that
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> epder: you just updated your alsa to 1.0.23 which seems to help a tonne
[18:11] <[THC]AcidRain> LiranV, my guess is that when you changed to mint, you ran something as sudo, and it changed the permission on the drive.
[18:11] <nimbiotics> Hello all. I'm trying to install Qjoypad. I downloaded the tar file, and uncompressed it, but when I try to run the ./config it tells me I need libxtst to compile this program. I went to the SPm and I noticed I've got libxtst6, libxext6 and libxext-dev installed; shouldn't that be what I need to install Qjoystick? TIA!
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> epder: does the system have a make and model or is it a home build?
[18:11] <[THC]AcidRain> that is what happens to me on widows. i hook my drive up and it changes permissions to automatically mount the drive. and messes it up when i want to hook it back to my linux box
[18:11] <lenswipe> hey guys
[18:11] <epder> ActionParsnip, Its an Asrock AON 330.
[18:11] <[THC]AcidRain> sudo chown [user] /dev/[drive here]
[18:11] <lenswipe> anyone home?
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> epder: run: alsamixer    and crank all the levels and use M to unmute any muted channels
[18:12] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip, if i sudo apt-get purge apache2 does it wipe /var/www ?
[18:12] <MATAH> lenswipe, hi
[18:12] <LiranV> [THC]AcidRain, let me try that
[18:12] <lynx> I'm getting some SEVERE errors where it says "fatal error: This is not a software problem" from the kernel
[18:12] <epder> ActionParsnip, http://kojedahl.no/alsamixer.png
[18:12] <lenswipe> MATAH, hello?
[18:13] <theadmin> lenswipe: That's a strange question.
[18:13] <lynx____> when I say severe, I mean severe... reinstalling the kernel and gnome didn't help either
[18:13] <LiranV> [THC]AcidRain, it works!! youre the man... but I don't understant somthing
[18:13] <lenswipe> theadmin, why is it a strange question?
[18:13] <[THC]AcidRain> :
[18:13] <[THC]AcidRain> :)
[18:13] <librarian-user01> hmm...
[18:13] <theadmin> lenswipe: Because normally it wouldn't matter whether we're at home or not.
[18:13] <lenswipe> heh
[18:13] <librarian-user01> still not mounting
[18:13] <LiranV> [THC]AcidRain, everything i plug can be sdd1... so how this permission work?
[18:13] <[THC]AcidRain> librarian-user01, after changing the owner. try to unplug it and plug it back in
[18:13] <lenswipe> theadmin, out of interest do you know a way to restore apache to vanilla how it comes from the repos?
[18:14] <lynx____> check this out
[18:14] <lenswipe> theadmin, would apt-get purge do it?
[18:14] <[THC]AcidRain> LiranV, at this point. i would extract its uuid, and add that to fstab
[18:14] <BlackFlag> Good afternoon! I have a notebook with video card SIS, 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter, with Ubuntu 11.04 with Gnome and I need to reduce the brightness of the screen. I tried this prompt "setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=60", but doens't work; in power management have no slider to control it
[18:14] <lynx____> Someone tell me exactly what type of error message (non-software error) this is:
[18:14] <theadmin> lenswipe: Yeah
[18:14] <theadmin> lenswipe: Purge and then reinstall
[18:14] <[THC]AcidRain> LiranV, you will also need to know the filesystem
[18:14] <lynx____> http://pastebin.com/Wg9K0Jrc
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> epder: http://asrockion.wiki.zoho.com/mythbuntu-910-asrock-ion-330.html   mentions some sound stuffs
[18:14] <lynx____> http://pastebin.com/Wg9K0Jrc is the website with a list of the types of errors I keep getting... what's wrong?
[18:14] <genii-around> BlackFlag: You probably have to use a different number than 00:02.0 unless that is the actual slot number your card is using
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> epder: unmute LFE, may help
[18:15] <lynx____> http://pastebin.com/Wg9K0Jrc is the website with a list of the types of errors I keep getting... what's wrong?
[18:15] <lynx____> DAMNIT NO ONES ANSWERING
[18:15] <genii-around> BlackFlag: lspci  should tell you the correct value
[18:15] <lynx____> U\pD| \{ /vf@ AC! rHXOTRs %nBpaz gD7'fde3 _/J!na*" Ej;KRi;
[18:15] <lynx____> 0`O@+U*v -FO(B})- (mw{`z0 (7',-G% dqw/3@Mq v/lWLZaD GRx/k-B
[18:15] <lynx____> >iTBNZ: RIq>UM^ g3Svi%W& :u,YW|v| TWqdpK y }N(KfPU* +r!TNj+
[18:16] <librarian-user01> still nothing on my side
[18:16] <JRWR> in natty, php5-mysqli doesnt seem to exist, is this a issue on my end, or has ubuntu forgotten about it
[18:16] <genii-around> lynx____: Please have some patience. We are volunteers.
[18:16] <BlackFlag> you have reason, genii-around, the correct is setpci -s 01:00.0 F4.B=60, but doesn't work too
[18:16] <[THC]AcidRain> librarian-user01, check the permissions again to confirm that they actually changed
[18:17] <librarian-user01> it now shows laura instead of root as owner
[18:17] <[THC]AcidRain> ok. but what are the permissons for laura. paste it here
[18:17] <[THC]AcidRain> or well... i would rather you use pastebin. but its fine i guess
[18:17] <librarian-user01> but if it is mounted then it flips back to root
[18:17] <librarian-user01> **edit
[18:18] <librarian-user01> if it is plugged back in is shows root
[18:18] <[THC]AcidRain> thats odd...
[18:18] <epder> ActionParsnip, Hm, still no luck :(
[18:18] <[THC]AcidRain> librarian-user01, did you use "sudo" to change permission?
[18:19] <epder> ActionParsnip, But its kinda weird that sound preferences dont find the hardware though?? It did earlier.
[18:19] <librarian-user01> ...i did a sudo su
[18:19] <StrangeCharm> what sort of things can cause a failure to suspend to ram or disk?
[18:19] <BlackFlag> VGA compatible controller / product: 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter / vendor: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] / physical id: 0 / bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0 / version: 10 / width: 32 bits / clock: 66MHz / capabilities: pm agp agp-3.0 vga_controller cap_list / configuration: latency=0 / resources: memory:c0000000-cfffffff memory:d4000000-d401ffff ioport:9000(size=128)
[18:19] <genii-around> BlackFlag: Where you have 60, have you tried another value? The numbering is in hexadecimal where 00 is brightest and ff is darkest. If you put for instance 4f does it get noticeably lighter than from 60 ?
[18:19] <theadmin> librarian-user01: "sudo su" is bad practice. Use "sudo -i" instead.
[18:20] <[THC]AcidRain> right. dont use sudo su
[18:20] <genii-around> ( 60 may have been already close to where it was originally set )
[18:20] <zeo> ...
[18:20] <Caios> hallo
[18:20] <BlackFlag> genii-around, yes, I tried a lot of numbers
[18:20] <Caios> lol
[18:21] <librarian-user01> still switches back to root
[18:21] <librarian-user01> could the rule in fstab to the mount point "/" be causing this?
[18:22] <[THC]AcidRain> librarian-user01, paste your fstab to pastebin.com and show link
[18:22] <[THC]AcidRain> librarian-user01, also tell me what the drive mount point is
[18:23] <nimbiotics> when I try to install jscalibrator using "sudo apt-get install jscalibrator", I get "E: Unable to locate package jscalibrator", why is this happening and how can I fix it?
[18:23] <librarian-user01> 1 min
[18:25] <librarian-user01> pastebin.com/wjFHNEyg
[18:25] <librarian-user01> http://pastebin.com/wjFHNEyg
[18:25] <[THC]AcidRain> librarian-user01, and the mount point of your drive you are having issues with?
[18:26] <librarian-user01> sdb1
[18:26] <yhager> Does anyone know how to fix: ImportError: /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_simple_async_result_take_error (11.04)?
[18:26] <librarian-user01> only on this one drive
[18:26] <librarian-user01> other flash drives work fine
[18:26] <[THC]AcidRain> librarian-user01, right. but other flash drives dont require root to mount
[18:26] <librarian-user01> corrent
[18:26] <librarian-user01> correct
[18:27] <genii-around> BlackFlag: Could you pastebin your lspci results?
[18:27] <theadmin> Hamsters
[18:27] <ccb0x45> hey, what would I need to do under ubuntu to redirect traffic from localhost:7878 to 192.168.1.55:7878?
[18:27] <Snarsh> Could a djvu file target the Ubuntu OS? I got it off rapidshare, and saved it using mozilla but the OS booted to login halfway during the download. Also, when I logged in again it said there were tons of updates I needed (I believe I already downloaded most of them). Could a djvu file get root on my computer during a download through mozilla?
[18:27] <[THC]AcidRain> librarian-user01, try this: blkid
[18:27] <[THC]AcidRain> tell me what the uuid is of your drive
[18:27] <theadmin> Snarsh: No, that's nonsense
[18:27] <jikabaaj> which is the best linux distro for HP mini 210?
[18:27] <genii-around> jikabaaj: Seeing as we're in #ubuntu ...
[18:28] <dsnyders> jikabaaj, On this site... Ubuntu of course!
[18:28] <theadmin> jikabaaj: Maybe the best place to ask would be ##linux
[18:28] <[THC]AcidRain> librarian-user01, with ext4 filesystem. i dont see why we are having issues changing the owner
[18:28] <librarian-user01> 1EA5-0357           TYPE is vfat
[18:28] <[THC]AcidRain> librarian-user01, actually... i think mounting anything at "/" requires root
[18:28] <rose> he.llo
[18:28] <Snarsh> theadmin: Then why was I kicked to login during the download of this djvu file? I was able to reproduce the boot multiple times, and I know rapidshare is likely to host malicious files.
[18:28] <[THC]AcidRain> librarian-user01, type is vfat?
[18:29] <jikabaaj> hehehehe.. thanks. but i thought i could get some good pointers here since i trust the ubuntu community a lot! :)
[18:29] <[THC]AcidRain> it says in your fstab that its ext4...
[18:29] <librarian-user01> fat32  -- but i can mount vfat
[18:29] <librarian-user01> yes
[18:29] <[THC]AcidRain> librarian-user01, and im sure that a uuid is longer than 8 characters. i may be wrong though
[18:29] <theadmin> Snarsh: Well, it can be an Xorg bug, or maybe a Firefox bug, or... There're multiple options
[18:29] <librarian-user01> 1EA5-0357 is the UUID that it is showing
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Snarsh: malicious in what way?
[18:30] <theadmin> Snarsh: However, really, there aren't many exploits in Linux that can really give anything root permissions...
[18:30] <theadmin> Snarsh: Just forget the file if you're suspicious of it
[18:30] <[THC]AcidRain> hmmm. i foget how to mount a vfat system. im sure you can find it on google
[18:30] <[THC]AcidRain> first thing i do when i buy a new drive is format it to ext3/4
[18:30] <th0r> [THC]AcidRain: I have an mmc card plugged in, and the uuid for that looks like librarian-user01
[18:30] <[THC]AcidRain> others in #ubuntu will say that is not a good idea
[18:30] <urlin2u> Snarsh, here is a manpage getting it from rapidshare makes no sense. http://linux.die.net/man/1/djvu
[18:31] <[THC]AcidRain> hey i said i may be wrong :)
[18:31] <Snarsh> ActionParsnip: On windows, I've had problems with rapidshare offering files that were either viruses or corrupted when I downloaded them.
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> [THC]AcidRain: i tend to partition first, then to ext4 ;-)
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> Snarsh: win viruses won't affect ubuntu.
[18:32] <[THC]AcidRain> ActionParsnip, why do you chose that?
[18:32] <[THC]AcidRain> ActionParsnip, why not just format the existing partition?
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> [THC]AcidRain: choose what? Ext4?
[18:33] <[THC]AcidRain> nah. why do you choose to create a new partition, then format
[18:33] <Snarsh> ActionParsnip: I'm aware of that, I just didn't know if they went as far as to try to infect ubuntu as well at this point. When making the download off of rapidshare it showed 2 files in my Download folder instead of 1, 1 being the correct file and the other being a 200kb file that seemed to be a corrupted djvu file.
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> [THC]AcidRain: I've never bought a partitioned drive
[18:33] <librarian-user01> I can mount it fine, its trying to get it to run automatically
[18:33] <[THC]AcidRain> ActionParsnip, ... oh.... i thought that all drives you buy come with a ntsf partition on them...
[18:33] <[THC]AcidRain> perhaps thats where i been messing up :)
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> librarian-user01: do you unmount it properly after use?
[18:34] <librarian-user01> i have
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> Good
[18:34] <[THC]AcidRain> what... i always just yank my drives out.
[18:35] <BryanRuiz> do i have to partition a new scsi drive before mounting it?
[18:35] <AndChat|> Stupid blackspot :(
[18:35] <BlackFlag> genii-around, http://paste.ubuntu.com/675437/
[18:35] <AndChat|> BryanRuiz: yes. You cannot mount drives
[18:36] <Snarsh> Anyone know why a mozilla download of 1 file would produce 2 files in my Download folder? 1 being a corrupted djvu file and the other looking to be the correct djvu file, but before the correct was finished downloading I would be kicked to the login screen?
[18:36] <[THC]AcidRain> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/wjFHNEyg this is his fstab.  i think it has something to do with him trying to mount it at "/" and the fact that hes trying to mount a vfat system as a ext4
[18:37] <famgod> how can I get nautilius to automount/auto detect cds?  each time I put a cd/dvd in ive got to 'mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
[18:37] <[THC]AcidRain> no wait... librarian-user01 i dont think thats right dude. sdb1 looks like your internal hdd that you boot from
[18:37] <AndChat|> Snarsh: mozilla is a company, not an app. I'm guessing you mean firefox. Does it happen for all downloads?
[18:38] <[THC]AcidRain> famgod, fstab is your friend
[18:38] <famgod> if I add it to fstab
[18:38] <GunClive> hi. my printer often is displayed as plugged off even when not. when i plug the usb in and out sometimes the problem is fixed then but not always. other times once my printer was plugged in for about 30 minutes it works from alone. how can i always use it? thanks.
[18:38] <famgod> it will auto mount/umount
[18:38] <famgod> by just putting cd in
[18:38] <famgod> or taking it out?
[18:39] <mckalexee> are you trying to automount a hdd in ubuntu?
[18:39] <[THC]AcidRain> hmmm.... id google that one. i thought nautilus was just a sudo gui browser
[18:39] <famgod> ive got already got /dev/cdrom in my fstab...
[18:39] <mckalexee> nautilus is the ubuntu file browser
[18:39] <AndChat|> [THC]AcidRain: if sdb1 is not ext4 based there will be issues. This is actionParsnip btw. Stupid blackspot drops me out and I rejoin as andchat
[18:39] <[THC]AcidRain> famgod, and what are the permissions on it?
[18:39] <senge> where is the netbook ediiton of ubuntu on the ubuntu website?
[18:40] <[THC]AcidRain> AndChat|, tell that to librarian-user01  :)
[18:40] <ghost_> how do i change the display resolution in ubuntu?
[18:40] <Snarsh> AndChat|: this is the first time it has happened via firefox, and only with these files. But it happens everytime I try with these files so it is reproducable.
[18:40] <famgod> /dev/cdrom              /mnt/cdrom      auto            noauto,ro       0 0
[18:40] <[THC]AcidRain> i hate to leave a soldier behind. but i cant help him
[18:40] <mckalexee> senge| 11.04 is designed for netbooks too now
[18:40] <mckalexee> it comes with the unity interface
[18:40] <Galvatron> ghost_: It depends on video card and drivers.
[18:40] <urlin2u> senge, not in development anymore
[18:40] <AndChat|> [THC]AcidRain: nautilus is just a file browser, it can be ran with gksudo to get more access
[18:41] <senge> urlin2u: please recommend some linux OS for HP mini 210 (netbook)
[18:41] <GunClive> there is also a gksu extension for nautilus
[18:41] <urlin2u> senge, 11.04
[18:41] <famgod> ya, the issue isnt really nautilus...i just want a cd/dvd to be automounted when I put it in the drive....its been 5-6 years since ive used linux...if I remembner correctly 'hal' did what I did want it to do
[18:41] <[THC]AcidRain> rly now? i thought i had full access with just normal sudo nautilus
[18:41] <AndChat|> senge: there is a ppa with the old netbook ui if you want. Its not developed anymore though.
[18:41] <famgod> but 'hal is now depreciated
[18:42] <AndChat|> [THC]AcidRain: sudo isn't suitable for gui apps like nautilus.
[18:42] <[THC]AcidRain> well my mine is permissioned like this: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2011-08-25 22:06 /dev/cdrom -> sr0
[18:43] <[THC]AcidRain> AndChat|, what should i use? just gksu nautilus?
[18:43] <AndChat|> famgod: udev does it now
[18:43] <senge> AndChat|: its not about the UI. i just want something to run smoothly on my netbook.
[18:43] <AndChat|> [THC]AcidRain: yes.
[18:43] <[THC]AcidRain> AndChat|, ooo. i did it. i do see extra files :)
[18:43] <Galvatron> [THC]AcidRain: GUI + "sudo" may and up with messed permissions, so it's safer to use "sudo" only for console apps, and "gksu" for GUI ones.
[18:43] <japro> Ok, so I had 10.04 installed but I needed the newer gcc and also figured updating would solve the problem that the nvidia powermizer doesn't move out of level 1 (second lowest). So i upgraded to 11.04 and now the nvidia is just constantly staying at max clock speeds -.-
[18:44] <[THC]AcidRain> Galvatron, note taken. thanks
[18:44] <Snarsh> AndChat|: any thoughts on the information I provided? The kick to boot screen each time I download those 2 djvu files can be a coincidence and sounds likely with a site like rapidshare.
[18:44] <Galvatron> japro: Try installing the latest drivers from nVidia website instead of those in the repo.
[18:44] <AndChat|> senge: lubuntu and xubuntu are light so will run smoother and with fewer resources than ubuntu
[18:44] <senge> ok
[18:44] <senge> thanks
[18:44] <urlin2u> senge, I run natty on my aceraspire one a netbook but I bought a ram card to use the ma allowed 2 gigs, runs windows7 great as we3ll, and any other linux I install.
[18:44] <senge> :)
[18:45] <AndChat|> Snarsh: tried a different browser?
[18:45] <Galvatron> japro: Anyways, what card is it?
[18:45] <urlin2u> AndChat|, what they are downloading is available in linux the rapidshare is the problem
[18:46] <AndChat|> urlin2u: its worth exploring
[18:46] <japro> Galvatron,it's a gtx260m in a laptop
[18:46] <Snarsh> AndChat|: Other than firefox? I haven't, but I thought the error was related to the corrupted djvu file downloaded alongside the correct file. And that rapidshare or the person who uploaded the file intentionally did this with malicious intent.
[18:47] <urlin2u> Snarsh, you have taken one event if even true and made a lot of cause and effect, use some critical thought here.
[18:47] <AndChat|> Snarsh: install chromium-browser and see if its the same
[18:47] <BlackFlag> Good afternoon! I have a notebook with video card SIS, 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter, with Ubuntu 11.04 with Gnome and I need to reduce the brightness of the screen. I tried this prompt "setpci -s 01:00.0 F4.B=60", but doens't work; in power management have no slider to control it. http://paste.ubuntu.com/675437/ from lspci
[18:47] <Galvatron> japro: I still recommend trying drivers 280.03 and 285.13 beta.
[18:48] <Galvatron> japro: You might also ask in the #nvidia channel.
[18:48] <japro> I'm kinda afraid of installing the drivers directly, the last time I tried that I failed and I had to go through a whole of of annoying reparing
[18:49] <Snarsh> AndChat|: I will do so as soon as I finish updating, in terminal right now and don't wanna startx til it finishes. I can attempt this download again without fear that a djvu file is somehow damaging my system? That's what concerns me the most, although I couldn't find anyone else having a problem like this on google.
[18:49] <nimbiotics> is there a channel for linux gamers?  TIA!
[18:52] <Galvatron> japro: It's not that hard. First uninstall the ones from repo (in most cases "nvidia-current") and delete xorg.conf. Then download the ones from NV's website to your /home directory, go to terminal mode (Alt + F1), kill X ("sudo service gdm stop"), run the installer ("sudo sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-280.13.run") and restart X with "sudo service gdm start".
[18:54] <Snarsh> One other question, what is the preferred package used to read djvu files? I could possibly be missing it.
[18:54] <Galvatron> japro: To update them you simply download ne one from nVidia and repeat the whole process. If you update the kernel, you must simply kompile new module, by adding "-K" flag at the end of installer command. To uninstall you simply add "--uninstall" flag in the same place.
[18:57] <snowman> Is it possible to add extra activex like components to libre office. I have a pps file which will not run.
[18:59] <CharlieSu> Hi. I've installed a PPA to get a newer version of CouchDB, however I'm not seeing the newer version after I do an apt-get update, install.  How can I list the contents of a PPA?
[19:00] <CharlieSu> This is the PPA I'm talking about
[19:00] <CharlieSu> https://launchpad.net/~randall-leeds/+archive/couchdb
[19:01] <wildc4rd> evenin all
[19:01] <Galvatron> CharlieSu: Is the PPA visible in /etc/apt/sources.list.d?
[19:01] <Galvatron> CharlieSu: There's also a chance that you already have a newer ersions of these packages in the system.
[19:02] <Aquix> run apt-cache policy  to see if there is repos conflicts
[19:02] <CharlieSu> Galvatron: yes it is there..  but the newer version isn't
[19:03] <genii-around> !info couchdb natty
[19:04] <japro> well, looks like i can reduce the clocks somewhat by just turning on the powersaving feature of the laptop... I guess ill also try what happens when the second monitor is not connected
[19:04] <trism> CharlieSu: you can't find them because they failed to build in that ppa
[19:04] <Galvatron> Use "gksu nautilus /etc/apt/sources.list.d" to delete it, then add once more, with sudo add-apt-repository ppa:randall-leeds/couchdb".
[19:04] <CharlieSu> trism: what do you mean?
[19:04] <CharlieSu> trism: ahh.. i see now
[19:04] <genii-around> CharlieSu: Look in top right of the link you gave where it says failed to build
[19:04] <japro> going by search results the powermizer thingy seems to be pretty broken anyway
[19:05] <Zenith77> Hi all, I am running 10.04. I added a user, but when I login through terminal, what I am assuming to be the bash profile, is not the same as it is with root (no auto tab complete, color scheme, etc). Is it safe to just copy .bashrc and .profile from root's home to /home/useriwant
[19:05] <Zenith77> ?
[19:05] <Lungan> Hmm... So I did have an internal mic on my 11.04 that didn't work, did try some things I found on the internet, ended up having no sound at all. How can i Reset that to pulseaudio again?
[19:05] <mathnoob> What is the maximum number of possible permutations for any selected 8 bits?
[19:05]  * yakeb is away: I'm busy
[19:06] <genii-around> mathnoob: 256 I imagine, if you include zero
[19:06] <oCean> yakeb: please disable your away announcement
[19:06] <mathnoob> genii-around: really? there would be 256 ways to rearrange any given byte?
[19:06] <Yxven> I'm trying to install PIP which requires me to locate the paths of various image libraries. My current method is to guess and check the locations specified in the package manager. Is there a better way?
[19:06] <japro> permutations?
[19:07] <mathnoob> yes?
[19:07] <japro> assuming the bits are somehow unique then there are 8! permutations?
[19:07] <oCean> mathnoob: channel #math would be more appropriate
[19:07] <mathnoob> thanks mate :)
[19:07] <japro> or do you mean how many "pattern" are there with a certain number of bits set?
[19:08] <mathnoob> japro: yes, that's a better wording.
[19:08] <GunClive> hi. my printer often is displayed as plugged off even when not. when i plug the usb in and out sometimes the problem is fixed then but not always. other times once my printer was plugged in for about 30 minutes it works from alone. how can i always use it? thanks.
[19:08] <japro> i think then it should be: 8!/(n!*(8-n)!) where n is the number of "1" bits
[19:09] <japro> or "0" bits... its symmetric anyway
[19:09] <oCean> japro: please don't continue that discussion here
[19:11] <oCean> Yxven: are you searching for particular files? Then you can run the 'locate' command
[19:12] <Yxven> oCean, I'm just supposed to specify the path to the root of TCL, JPEG, ZLIB, TIFF, and LCMS
[19:13] <Yxven> It's not obvious to me which directory should be considered "root", and I don't know anything about the libraries other than they're installed
[19:14] <chaospsychex> what are the differences between 10.10 and 11.04 excluding gnome3 and unity?
[19:15] <yeats> chaospsychex: are you asking because you're considering an upgrade? or what?
[19:15] <oCean> Yxven: oh sorry, I don't know either
[19:15] <chaospsychex> yeah
[19:15] <Yxven> oCean, thanks anyway
[19:15] <chaospsychex> is 11.04 lts ?
[19:15] <yeats> chaospsychex: no - not LTS
[19:15] <oCean> chaospsychex: no, 12.04 will be
[19:15] <yeats> chaospsychex: 10.04 is current LTS
[19:16] <chaospsychex> i will just stay on 10.10 then
[19:16] <yeats> chaospsychex: 11.04 in "Ubuntu Classic" mode is almost identical to 10.10 from my point of view, if that helps
[19:17] <chaospsychex> yeah, i don't want to upgrade though. my system works! not going to upgrade to non-LTS
[19:18] <mydokumen> semarang
[19:19] <acesofsky> can questions related to programming be asked here?
[19:19] <mydokumen> yes
[19:19] <oCean> mydokumen: acesofsky no
[19:19] <oCean> acesofsky: there is the ##programming channel
[19:19] <mydokumen> i dont now
[19:19] <Galvatron> chaospsychex: Newer kernel and software, including an unstable, development branch of Compiz (0.9.x) which shouldn't be there in the first place, but can be downgraded back to 0.8.6 with a PPA, at the cost of resigning from Unity.
[19:20] <renancoelho> hello, I cannot watch youtube anymore on firefox ubuntu 10.10. I started having these problems after installing windows media player totem plugin...
[19:20] <renancoelho> any sugestions?
[19:20] <chaospsychex> Galvatron: which kernel does 11.04 use?
[19:20] <japro> hmm, is using seperate xscreens so exotic? a lot of programs behave somewhat wierd in this context...
[19:20] <XGaryG> I want to play a purchased DVD. I installed Ubuntu restricted extras, and Arsta Transcoder. What more do I need?
[19:20] <Galvatron> chaospsychex: 3.6.38
[19:20] <irrumator_> How do I add a location to my PATH environmental variable?
[19:20] <Galvatron> chaospsychex: *2.6.38
[19:21] <chaospsychex> i'm using  2.6.30 i think
[19:21] <japro> most notably firefox still not being able to open windows on seperate screens... if i remember that issue has been reported as far back as firefox 1.5
[19:21] <nitin_> hi to all
[19:21] <Galvatron> renancoelho: have you tried uninstalling this plugin?
[19:21] <chaospsychex> what's the command to check my kernel version
[19:21] <nitin_> any1 there?
[19:21] <qweqq> chaospsychex: uname -a
[19:21] <acesofsky> thanks switching to #programming
[19:21] <renancoelho> I am trying, but all I can do is disable it...
[19:22] <phong_> anyone know how i can get vnc working?
[19:22] <Galvatron> qweqq: He's not on 11.04, so nothing from it.
[19:22] <phong_> and given a specifiiiiiiic port?
[19:22] <chaospsychex> 2.6.35-30 is what im running
[19:22] <chaospsychex> how do i remove 22,24 ?
[19:22] <Galvatron> renancoelho: How about purgging Totem and installing it again?
[19:23] <chaospsychex> i have like 6 kernel options in grub on boot
[19:23] <chaospsychex> kernels
[19:23] <renancoelho> Galvatron: how to do that?
[19:24] <chaospsychex> can someone help me install firefox6.0 ?
[19:24] <chaospsychex> ive downloaded the .tar from the website
[19:25] <|Slacker|> chaospsychex: can't you install it from the software center?
[19:25] <chaospsychex> no
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: what is the output of: lsb_release -c
[19:25] <chaospsychex> won't upgrade to 6.0 because some customized ubuntu version is installed
[19:26] <chaospsychex> codename maverick
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> !ff6
[19:26] <Galvatron> chaospsychex: You might use either Ubuntu Tweak > Package cleaner > Clean kernels or Synaptic in which you type "linux", sor packages by installed/not installed (first column) and find all "headers"/"image" files with corresponding numbers. Usually Synaptic doesn't enlist the currently used kernel, so you might safely mark everything for removal, but just to be 100% sure you might check kernel version in the system monitor.
[19:27] <irrumator_> How do I add a location to my PATH environmental variable?
[19:27] <Galvatron> renancoelho: "sudo apt-get install aptitude && sudo aptitude purge totem" && sudo aptitude install totem"
[19:27] <chaospsychex> ?
[19:28] <chaospsychex> how can i remove old kernels from the terminal ?
[19:28] <chaospsychex> what's the command ?
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> irrumator_: in ~/.bashrc at the bottom add: export PATH=$PATH:/extra/folder
[19:29] <irrumator_> ActionParsnip: and if we use zsh? can i put the same thing in my ~/.zshrc file as well?
[19:29] <dttah> hey guys, is have a this question I just downloaded PlayOnLinux app went into "install" category and whichever I'm trying to install it says "Sorry, PlayOnMac 2.5 and PlayOnLinux 3.8 are no longer supported" and as im running the app it says  "an updated version of playonlinux is available. (4.0.8) " what should i do to get this work ?
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> irrumator_: that will add /extra/folder to the path
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> irrumator_: i guess
[19:29] <Galvatron> chaospsychex: In this case Synaptic is the fastest way
[19:29] <phong_> anyone know how to configure vnc with different port?
[19:29] <phong_> i need help
[19:29] <phong_> and how do i kknow i have vnc working?
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: run: dpkg -l | grep linux-image-2     these are the installed kernels
[19:31] <chaospsychex> ok that outputted 3, i want to remove to of them. 2.6.35-22 and 2.6.35-24
[19:31] <renancoelho> exit
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: run: uname -a   that is the running kernel. You can uninstall the installed kernel but you MUST leave the running kernel installed
[19:32] <chaospsychex> 2.6.35-30 is running
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> phong_: ps -ef | grep -i vnc
[19:32] <chaospsychex> i want to remo 30-22 and30-24
[19:32] <dAnjou> hi, can i use ubuntu one in a way so that i don't have to have the data on my pc but only in the cloud?
[19:32] <chaospsychex> *remove
[19:32] <calwig> o/
[19:33] <dttah> hey guys, is have a this question I just downloaded PlayOnLinux app went into "install" category and whichever I'm trying to install it says "Sorry, PlayOnMac 2.5 and PlayOnLinux 3.8 are no longer supported" and as im running the app it says  "an updated version of playonlinux is available. (4.0.8) " what should i do to get this work ?
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: then use software centre
[19:33] <Lung4n> How do i reset my sound installation? Was using pulse audio, somehow i removed it and don't have any sound
[19:33] <phong_> ActionParsnip, phong_    4689  4604  0 15:33 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto -i vnc
[19:34] <phong_> ActionParsnip, no idea
[19:34] <KadirB> hey all
[19:34] <KadirB> :D
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> Dttah:the wine ppa may have a newer version. I suggest you log a bug
[19:34] <chaospsychex> i would rather use synaptic or command
[19:34] <dttah> ActionParsnip, would like to know how to log a bug, what should i do ?
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> phong_: that's just grep running, you'll always get that. Vnc isn't running
[19:35] <genii-around> dttah: the page http://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html has pretty good instructions for all recent versions of Ubuntu
[19:35] <Logan_> dttah: Instructions to add the PlayOnLinux repo are here: http://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> dttah: run: ubuntu-bug playonlinux
[19:35] <phong_> ActionParsnip, well..i've install RealVNC, how do i get it to configure
[19:35] <phong_> ActionParsnip, i'm used to RealVNC
[19:37] <tomywin> hey can i upgrade bios on ubuntu
[19:39] <tomywin> hey can i upgrade bios on ubuntu
[19:39] <bindi> tomywin: consult your motherboard manual
[19:39] <tomywin> hey can i upgrade bios on ubuntu
[19:39] <tomywin> and how
[19:39] <ultrixx> tomywin: depends strongly on the board manufacturer. i suggest you use a usb stick and do it from bios
[19:40] <dttah> genii-around, Logan_  thanks guys:) I went there into Ubuntu category and it says For the Natty version.... Maverick Lucid Karmic... Hardy.. .what are these which one should i download? im running last version of Ubuntu
[19:40]  * bindi sighs
[19:40] <tomywin> ultrixx when i go to bios setup there is no usb device there
[19:40] <Jordan_U> tomywin: Please don't repeat your question so quickly. Give people time to respond.
[19:40] <Logan_> !version | dttah
[19:40] <Gentoo64> tomywin, older ones can use floppy
[19:40] <genii-around> tomywin: It's usually better to make something like a standalone usb stick with something like freedos and then the dos-based bios update utility from your motherboard manufacturer
[19:41] <ultrixx> tomywin: is there a menu option in your bios to update from usb memory stick?
[19:41] <Jordan_U> tomywin: Sometimes you can with a utility called "flashrom", other times the normal solution is to boot FreeDOS and run the manufacturer's BIOS flashing utility from there.
[19:41] <ultrixx> tomywin: Jordan_U is right.
[19:41] <tomywin> in my bios setup i see floppy drive,networkdrive,and hardrive no usb device
[19:41] <dttah> Logan_, thanks:) sorry where can i read what are these maverick lucid kameric hardy things? what do they mean overall ?
[19:41] <ultrixx> tomywin: i am talking about bios update
[19:42] <ultrixx> tomywin: what you are writing about is the setup for floppy, harddrive etc
[19:42] <Logan_> dttah: Those are the names of the different versions of Ubuntu.  If that command in Terminal outputs 11.04, it means you're running Natty.
[19:42] <tomywin> yes so what to do on bios setup
[19:43] <ultrixx> tomywin: you shouldn't play around with bios updates if you have no clue what you are doing
[19:43] <bindi> tomywin: read the manual that came with the mobo, it has pictures and all that fancy stuff
[19:43] <tomywin> i bought this pc on second shop no manuals
[19:43] <dttah> Logan_, I already found out that mine is "Natty" Thanks, it means if it outputs "Maverick" im running one version older than 11.04 ?
[19:43] <ultrixx> tomywin: if you haven't got the manual, you can download it from the manufacturer
[19:43] <bindi> find it online then, tomywin
[19:44] <Logan_> dttah: Correct.
[19:44] <dttah> Logan_, got it, thanks :)
[19:44] <Logan_> dttah: Maverick is the code name for 10.10.
[19:44] <tomywin> what to search my computer is intel pentium 4, fujtisu simens
[19:44] <bindi> tomywin: why do you even need to update it..?
[19:44] <dttah> Logan_, why did they make all these things so confusing end messed up( it could be simply 11.04 10.10 etc...
[19:44] <tomywin> so i can use my usb device
[19:45] <tomywin> i want to boot from usb device
[19:45] <Logan_> dttah: Heh, I think some people prefer the names.
[19:45] <Logan_> tomywin: What is the model of your Fujitsu Siemens computer?
[19:45] <bindi> tomywin: and you are certain updating the bios will help?
[19:45] <Logan_> bindi: Updating the BIOS can sometimes add new features such as booting from a USB device.
[19:45] <tomywin> Logan_ Pentium 4
[19:45] <bindi> tomywin: how do you know what bios to flash, when you dont know how to find the manual/know the mobo name
[19:46] <Logan_> tomywin: Sorry, but that's the processor.  It should say the model of the computer on the bottom/back.
[19:46] <dttah> Logan_, one more and last question, this PlayOnLinux offers various games such as Assassin's creed and some other high-end games, is this app crap or it will REALLY run such games in this os ?
[19:46] <ultrixx> tomywin: google fujitsu siemens bios update
[19:46] <tomywin> Logan_ Intel Inside pentium 4
[19:46] <Logan_> dttah: I don't really have personal experience with it.
[19:46] <Logan_> tomywin: That's still the processor.
[19:46] <dttah> Logan_, Thanks )
[19:46] <Logan_> dttah: No problem.
[19:46] <dttah> take care yo'll and thanks for help everybody )
[19:47] <irrumator_> Ok, so I added this folder to my PATH environmental variable via ~/.bashrc. In this folder that I added, there's a file.sh that I want to be able to launch from anywhere (like from alt-F2 run command). How do I do this?
[19:47] <dttah> i downloaded updated now it works )
[19:47] <tomywin> can i still mount my usb even thought there is no option on bios can i mount my usb device on ubuntu
[19:49] <mordof> is there any way to find the order of the applications launched at startup?
[19:51] <tomywin> if i have an os on usb flash, can i copy it to dvd
[19:53] <chaospsychex> tomywin, yes. its just the reverse of putting it on usb from iso
[19:54] <Jordan_U> tomywin: It depends on the OS and how the flash drive was prepared.
[19:54] <mordof> i'd like to load an application as the last item to load upon startup - is this possible?
[19:55] <Jordan_U> mordof: Before or after login?
[19:55] <mordof> Jordan_U: after
[19:55] <tomywin> its os win7 64 bits, now i am on ubuntu, i want to go back to win7 its much easier for me
[19:55] <chaospsychex> never
[19:55] <chaospsychex> dont tell em guys,lol ;-P
[19:55] <chaospsychex> just joking
[19:55] <LiranV> guys i need some help
[19:55] <chaospsychex> tomywin #windows
[19:56] <tomywin> iam on ubuntu now
[19:56] <LiranV> every time i plug a usb mass storage device to my pc it says that the "root" user own it:
[19:56] <LiranV> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 49 2011-08-26 22:51 /dev/sdd1
[19:56] <LiranV> why is that?
[19:56] <alejandro> Que onda
[19:56] <chaospsychex> this channel is for ubuntu related issues
[19:56] <chaospsychex> !windows
[19:56] <chaospsychex> 0.0
[19:56] <yeats> !es | alejandro
[19:56] <chaospsychex> /join ##windows
[19:57] <mordof> Jordan_U: i've got the app running in the startup, as well as devilspie. but it would appear depending on boot order - that my app messes up and things just don't react as they should
[19:57] <Jordan_U> tomywin: You can get help for that in the channel ##windows. Even though you're on Ubuntu now, you goal is to install Windows, and most of the technicall issues will be related to how Windows works rather than how Ubuntu works (and most of the people in ##windows are also familiar with Ubuntu).
[19:57] <LiranV> Anyone?
[19:57] <Jordan_U> mordof: What is the application? What happens when it fails?
[19:57] <yeats> LiranV: because only root can mount things?
[19:58] <LiranV> but i want my DOK to mount automatically...
[19:58] <mordof> Jordan_U: prism - loading a localhost app.  i've got devilspie removing the window decoration, and relocating it underneath windows on my second monitor
[19:58] <LiranV> it works on linux mint... i just plug the usb and i mounts
[19:58] <mordof> Jordan_U: when it fails, sometimes the window manager gets removed from EVERYTHING.. sometimes it doesn't reposition right, sometimes the actual localhost page pulls bad values from the mysql database
[19:58] <chaospsychex> !ubuntu
[19:59] <chaospsychex> !mint
[19:59] <LiranV> im not running mint
[19:59] <chaospsychex> LiranV ^
[19:59] <LiranV> im running ubuntu
[19:59] <mordof> Jordan_U: i think all of these could be solved by making sure my script is run absolute last after everything is loaded
[19:59] <chaospsychex> but you just referred to it,lol
[19:59] <LiranV> i just said that on mint it works
[19:59] <chaospsychex> !lint
[19:59] <chaospsychex> !mint
[20:00] <mordof> LiranV: i believe it's possible to change the auto-mount properties, but i'm not sure how..
[20:00] <mordof> chaospsychex: the problem has nothing to do with mint
[20:00] <LiranV> when i previously had ubuntu 11.04 it worked as well. i'd just plug in a disk on key and it mount's automatically..
[20:00] <chaospsychex> i know, lolol
[20:00] <mordof> :\
[20:00] <cristian_c> Hi
[20:01] <cristian_c> I would like to operate the keys with the keyboard wireless media desktop
[20:01] <LiranV> yesterday i installed 11.04 again and it doesn't work... :(
[20:01] <yeats> LiranV: what is "DOK"? sorry - I don't recognize that acronym...
[20:01] <cristian_c> I connected everything and used the KeyTouch program to configure the keys
[20:01] <cristian_c> I found this wiki page at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyTouch
[20:01] <cristian_c> from the back of the keyboard you can see that this is the model Media Wireless Desktop (Y-RAC66) while on the wiki, including keyboards is supported Media Wireless Desktop (Y-RAE68)
[20:01] <BetaArc> Anyone can help me with a SSD install on Ubuntu?
[20:01] <cristian_c> I selected it from keytouch, and not all the keys worked
[20:01] <cristian_c> but following the keytouch editor manual, I opened Keytouch Editor to make the keyboard supported
[20:01] <Jordan_U> !details | BetaArc
[20:01] <dlyneswork> Does ubuntu have something similar to RHEL's system-config-authentication application?
[20:01] <cristian_c> The nice thing is that keytouch editor recognizes perfectly all the keys on the keyboard and and suggests the default and right actions for each key
[20:01] <laserbled> hi, I need help please - How should I remote login to a redhat server from ubuntu - I can do it through ssh but no commands like startx work in there - I have the credentials - please tell me what I should do
[20:02] <cristian_c> added to the list all keys I saved the keyboard file called labtec_mwd_yrac66_kbd. At this point I open keytouch again to select the new keyboard introduced in the database. I choose it and try to set the keys
[20:02] <Jordan_U> dlyneswork: What does that application do?
[20:02] <LiranV> yeats, DOK = Disk On Key
[20:02] <cristian_c> as the first test I set the mail key (but remember I tried other keys), choosing the program to use and the field is filled with evolution - component = mail
[20:02] <irrumator_> Ok, so I added this folder to my PATH environmental variable via ~/.bashrc. In this folder that I added, there's a file.sh that I want to be able to launch from anywhere (like from alt-F2 run command). How do I do this?
[20:02] <yeats> !enter | cristian_c
[20:02] <cristian_c> And then I press Ok or Apply, but in both cases if I press the key, the computer goes into standby (and of course then asks me the password to unlock it), instead of opening evolution. Even if I fill out the field only with the string 'evolution' the same thing happens
[20:02] <cristian_c> Why with keytouch editor is the keyboard recognized and with keytouch not? How can I find a solution?
[20:02] <cristian_c> ok
[20:02] <dlyneswork> Jordan_U, allows you to configure user authentication, NIS, LDAP, Hesiod, and Winbind
[20:02] <belgianguy> any way to switch an existing XORG to ATI (before it was NVIDIA, this machine died)
[20:02] <yeats> LiranV: I see - so you're able to get it to mount, just not automatically?
[20:03] <belgianguy> I can acces the recovery mode, but it refuses to boot
[20:03] <BetaArc> I want to install Ubuntu 11.04 on my new SSD, but don't know how to start. Got Ubuntu 11.04 running on my 'old' HDD, but with my fresh SSD I don't know what would be a good setup.
[20:03] <LiranV> yeats, yes
[20:03] <belgianguy> into graphical mode, it seems XORG still tries to use the NVidia module
[20:03] <dlyneswork> belgianguy, proprietary nvidia drivers installed by package manager, nouveau, or proprietary nvidia drivers installed by the nvidia installer?
[20:03] <yeats> LiranV: does it show up in Nautilus when you plug it in?
[20:03] <mordof> anyone know how to  make my application i want to run at startup - start at the very end of the list on login?
[20:03] <cristian_c> yeats, the sentences have often two lines
[20:03] <LiranV> yeats, no
[20:03] <BetaArc> Should I use GPT or MBR, wich filesystem(s), btfrs/ext4/nilfs?
[20:03] <Jordan_U> LiranV: Even when mounted automatically (without needing a to enter a password for root privileges) the device node, /dev/sdd1, will be owned by root.
[20:04] <chaospsychex> !root
[20:04] <yeats> cristian_c: you were flooding the screen - which made it hard to read everyone else's comments
[20:04] <bhosie> i've been googling this for a while and have yet to come up with a workable solution: I can't get libnotify-bin to display pop up bubble messages for pidgin or empathy on 11.04 on a dell N4110. tried removing and reinstalling libnotify-bin. and notify-send "hello world" ends normally but nothing occurs on the desktop. thoughts?
[20:04] <belgianguy> dlyneswork, no idea atm, I do think I used the one that was 'recommended' in the hardware settings
[20:04] <LiranV> Jordan_U, so why doesn't it work?
[20:04] <cristian_c> yeats, it's a very crowded channel
[20:04] <yeats> cristian_c: yes - that's the point! ;-)
[20:04] <belgianguy> I tried installing fglrx, through apt-get, but that didn't change anything
[20:05] <chaospsychex> !fglrz
[20:05] <chaospsychex> !fglrx
[20:05] <laserbled> I need help please - How should I remote login to a redhat server from ubuntu - I can do it through ssh but no commands like startx work in there - I have the credentials - please tell me what I should do
[20:05] <chaospsychex> gotta love ubottu
[20:05] <Jordan_U> BetaArc: What is your use case? How large is the drive? Are you comfortable with losing all the files on the drive? (btrfs is still experimental)
[20:05] <Jordan_U> LiranV: I don't know.
[20:05] <cristian_c> yeats, but my log is difficult to read if it is spaced
[20:05] <LiranV> Jordan_U, i don't want to own sdd1... just want it to mount as i plug it in... same goes to all others(sde,sdf and so on)
[20:06] <irrumator_> !linus
[20:06] <cristian_c> :)
[20:06] <BetaArc> Jordan_U: Laptop, study, 90GB, Yes (Have dropbox for sync)
[20:07] <GunClive> hi. my printer often is displayed as plugged off even when not. when i plug the usb in and out sometimes the problem is fixed then but not always. other times once my printer was plugged in for about 30 minutes it works from alone. how can i always use it? thanks.
[20:07] <yeats> LiranV: does it work for other devices, or just this one?
[20:07] <cristian_c> yeats, where can I ask my question ?
[20:07] <yeats> cristian_c: here is fine - just shorten it and put it on one line ;-)
[20:08] <LiranV> yeats, every device won't mount automatically... i tried card reader, my phone and a DOK
[20:08] <cristian_c> yeats, the description it's too long
[20:08] <mordof> :\
[20:08] <cristian_c> one line is short
[20:08] <yeats> !pastebin | cristian_c
[20:09] <mordof> anyone know how to  make my application i want to run at startup - start at the very end of the list on login?
[20:09] <cristian_c> yeats, thanks, I hope that users read pastebin for the question
[20:09] <LiranV> yeats, any idea?
[20:09] <cristian_c> an anonymous link
[20:09] <yeats> mordof: System -> Preference -> Startup Applications?
[20:10] <mordof> yeats: you can't control order with that
[20:10] <yeats> LiranV: sorry - no - I think you should look at the logs (dmesg for starters) to see what's happening when something gets plugged in
[20:10] <pvh_sa> hey there, i'm on 11.04 and the unity launcher seems to keep revealing and remaining stuck there.... especially when i'm using FreeCAD... anyknow know how to force the unity launcher to hide?
[20:10] <mordof> yeats: i need it at the end because i'm getting bad results having it in the Startup Applications - it's causing problems
[20:11] <LiranV> yeats, thanks
[20:11] <raven> i cannot connect to ssh any more (wrong password) - how to find out why?
[20:11] <Jordan_U> BetaArc: Study as in "I need to do homework" or study as in "I'm experimenting with different technologies to learn"?
[20:11] <drussell> mordof: it's a dirty hack but you could put a sleep 60 in at the start of the script?
[20:11] <yeats> mordof: you could create a script that sleeps for a time, then starts your program?
[20:12] <drussell> yeats: heh
[20:12] <yeats> drussell: great minds
[20:12] <drussell> yeats: :o)
[20:12] <cristian_c> yeats, http://paste.ubuntu.com/675511/
[20:13] <mordof> yeats, drussell: i suppose that'll work for now
[20:13] <usr13> raven: First off, are you sure you are using correct user name?  If you have access to that computer, check to see if the password has changed.
[20:13] <gridbag> Downloaded 0 B of 5 B.
[20:14] <yeats> cristian_c: I'm sorry - I don't know how to approach your issue - perhaps someone else in channel can help
[20:15] <cristian_c> yeats, but if nobody knows the questions, nobody can help me
[20:15] <cristian_c> *the question
[20:16] <cristian_c> a pastebin link doesn't help
[20:16] <usr13> raven: Also make sure you are using the correct IP address.
[20:16] <raven> usr13, correct username for ssh
[20:16] <usr13> raven: Yes
[20:17] <raven> usr13, so this is another problem
[20:17] <usr13> raven: Check to see that you are using the correct user name when you initiate the ssh session.
[20:17] <GreekFreak> Hello. I have 2 questions. My VLC sound is not syncing with my video, yet it's working fine on Media Player. How do I fix this?
[20:17] <BetaArc> Jordan_U: Both
[20:17] <yeats> cristian_c: I never indicated that you shouldn't ask your question(s) - just that you were flooding the screen before (and btw, I'm not a channel mod or anything, just a volunteer) ;-)
[20:17] <jgcampbell300> not sure if this is where i should ask this question but here gos anyways ... useing clonezilla server ... have 4 more computers on same net as CZ ... i need to find a way that when i hit f12 to boot from network device and it connects to clonezilla ... I need the option to repartition the client's hard drive in to one partition ... basicly delete all partitions of clinet and build one fat32 partition
[20:17] <jgcampbell300> any ideas
[20:17] <raven> usr13, it IS the right username
[20:17] <cristian_c> yeats, yes I understand this
[20:18] <yeats> cristian_c: best of luck then - let's move on
[20:18] <usr13> raven: Well, you have Three coices.  1) Wrong IP  2) wrong user name   or  3) wrong password.
[20:18] <cristian_c> thanks
[20:19] <raven> usr13, nothing has changed i do not know what could be wrong how to find out
[20:19] <usr13> raven: I just told you.
[20:19] <dr-willis> jgcampbell300: clonezila live cd perhaps. om not sure it can netboot itself
[20:20] <yeats> raven: can you pastebin exactly what you type (no passwords, of course) and the error message, then share the link?
[20:20] <GreekFreak> Apologies, I meant "Movie Player"
[20:21] <raven> yeats, its only "Permission denied, please try again."
[20:21] <Jordan_U> BetaArc: Then I would recommend that you try GPT. Ubuntu's installer won't use it by default on a drive that small as the older msdos ("MBR") partition table will have not be running into the 2 TiB limit. While it won't be offered by default (and I don't off hand know how to get it to use GPT, you'll hopefully learn in the process of figuring it out) GPT is well supported. The only issue you might have is if you were trying to dual boot Windows on the ...
[20:21] <Jordan_U> ... same drive as Windows can't boot from GPT on BIOS based systems.
[20:21] <yeats> GreekFreak: you could ask in #videolan
[20:21] <jgcampbell300> dr-willis, no live dosnt .. i have CloneZila CE i bleave it is called ... everything works fine ... but the problem is .. some hard drives have more t han one partition sda1 2 3 etc ... my images are made to go on sda1 ... but alot of these sda1's are to small like 30m or so ... so im trying to find a way i can tell Clonezila to repartition all sd* drives to sda1 so all space is used on sda1
[20:22] <GreekFreak> yeats: thank you
[20:22] <BetaArc> Jordan_U: Yes, I have a option to boot with UEFI (bios) and Windows x64 'should' install perfect than :)
[20:22] <yeats> raven: what are you typing in - literally?
[20:22] <yeats> (if you don't mind sharing)
[20:22] <GreekFreak> Also, I have a problem with sound. I have 5.1 surround yet my ALSA mixer doesn't play my side speakers
[20:22] <yeats> raven: feel free to anonymize the user/host
[20:23] <Jordan_U> BetaArc: UEFI can be a major pain withot signifigant gain. Consider yourself warned :)
[20:23] <usr13> raven: CapsLock  ?
[20:23] <raven> yeats, ssh user@host      then the password      then the error
[20:23] <raven> usr13, no
[20:24] <usr13> raven: Try a different user, (if there is one).
[20:24] <yeats> raven: do you have any other access to the server?
[20:24] <BetaArc> Jordan_U: What do you mean? Is it dangerous?
[20:24] <raven> yeats, usr13 root also does not work
[20:25] <Jordan_U> BetaArc: No, just annoying in many ways.
[20:25] <yeats> raven: your server? or administered by someone else?
[20:25] <jgcampbell300> if i booted from a ubuntu live disk to cli ... what command would i be looking for to partition sd* to sda1
[20:25] <usr13> raven:
[20:25] <Slart> jgcampbell300: fdisk is one.. parted is another
[20:26] <Testing123> hey dudes, i have recently upgrades to ubuntu11.04 but every time i go to the update manager i get "partial update" but it ends and says no updates availiable till nextytime
[20:26] <usr13> raven: "Permission denied, please try again."  is returned when you have entered wrong password or wrong username.
[20:26] <Jordan_U> BetaArc: As for filesystems, IMHO the only reasonable choices are ext4 and btrfs. Btrfs is certainly awesome and fun to play with, but be prepared to do a complete re-install at the least convenient time possible (like the day before a major assignment is due).
[20:26] <jgcampbell300> cool ... so maybe i make a script to run one of these commands befor loading the image ... thanks gona go read up on those
[20:26] <yeats> raven: I know you feel certain that you're logging into the correct server, but I suspect it's the wrong one
[20:27] <usr13> raven: Are you using an IP address or a hostname?
[20:27] <yeats> usr13: was about to ask ;-)
[20:27] <raven> yeats, usr13 i only added me to the vboxusr group nothing else.
[20:27] <kingofswords> hi on a dual boot of ubuntu and xp is it possible for me to install win2k over xp?
[20:27] <yeats> raven: okay - so you have console access through VirtualBox?
[20:27] <Galvatron> Testing123; Try this; Open terminal and type "sudo apt-get install aptitude && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude full-upgrade"
[20:28] <usr13> kingofswords: Sure, but why would you?
[20:28] <raven> yeats, no it was only for usb access
[20:28] <raven> usr13, yeats hostname and ip same error
[20:28] <BetaArc> Jordan_U: Wich I never bought a SSD, so must trouble.. :(
[20:28] <Testing123>   Galvatron  doing :)
[20:28] <kingofswords> usr13, i want tinyXP but thought i wasnt allowed to ask about that.
[20:29] <yeats> raven: (repeating myself here, but) is this server administered by someone you can get help from? or is it yours?
[20:29] <usr13> raven: If you know for sure that have the IP correct, then it can only be user or password.  Take your pick.
[20:29] <Testing123> Galvatron:  done :D
[20:29] <kingofswords> i only use windows for gaming so thought it might be better
[20:29] <Jordan_U> BetaArc: What does any of this have do to with the drive being an SSD? That is mostly irrelevant to the choice of filesystem and partition table (at least at the moment).
[20:29] <Testing123> Galvatron:  but proboem still is here
[20:30] <ikonia> kingofswords: what windows distros you use has nothing to do with ubuntu or dual booting
[20:30] <juso> how can I remove the linux bootloader on a dual boot win/ubuntu
[20:30] <juso> ?
[20:30] <raven> usr13, yeats reset the group settings also does not help
[20:30] <raven> yeats, its mine
[20:31] <BetaArc> Jordan_U: From what I read ext4 is not the recommend way and btrfs is still experimental, If I still need to reinstall the whole system :(
[20:31] <Galvatron> Testing123: Try reboot. I even this won't help, open terminal again and type the following, to reinstall the update manager: "sudo aptitude purge update-manager && sudo aptitude install update-manager"
[20:31] <Oui_Ubuntu> hi to all guys
[20:31] <yeats> raven: it's a virtualized server on VirtualBox, no?
[20:31] <ikonia> Galvatron: why are you telling someone to re-insall update manager for a partial update ?
[20:32] <Jordan_U> BetaArc: On a quality SSD the wear leveling and lifespan of the drive should be enough that ext4's journaling should not be a problem.
[20:32] <Ramseize> i have an issue in my server, i configured the setting in my DNS, and when i restarted Bind , and check my log, I saw that it  is loading the db.example and not my db.mydomain.com? how can i point bind9 to use db.mydomain.com ?
[20:32] <usr13> raven: sudo nmap -p22 --version_light 192.168.1.x
[20:32] <raven> yeats, no this was only i hint that i changed anytzhing in the group settings for virtual box
[20:32] <usr13> raven: See what it says...
[20:32] <ikonia> Ramseize: you set that as a zone
[20:33] <raven> usr13, its open
[20:33] <Oui_Ubuntu> You are a team of lamers
[20:33] <Galvatron> Testing123: I have a better idea. In terminal type "sudo apt-get update -f".
[20:33] <oCean> raven: so you have access to the server? Can you try (on the server) to ssh user@localhost?
[20:34] <Oui_Ubuntu> LAMEEEEEERRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
[20:34] <raven> oCean, yes that works
[20:34] <Testing123> Galvatron:  done
[20:34] <Ramseize> @ ikonia thanks, i check, and i havent change db.example.com, thanks
[20:34] <Galvatron> Testing123: Now chceck if problem is gone
[20:34] <BetaArc> Jordan_U: Oke :D, thanks.. think going for btrfs and use GPT scheme
[20:35] <Testing123> Galvatron:  no
[20:35] <Archdave> anyone in the room familiar with getting ubuntu to work with ustream?
[20:35] <Testing123> still here
[20:35] <usr13> raven: sudo nmap -O2 -sV --version_light -p 22 ###.###.##.#
[20:35] <oCean> raven: so it seems your user/pass are correct. Could it be that /etc/ssh/sshd_config changed?
[20:35] <usr13> make sure it is the machine you think it is.
[20:35] <Snakkah> Hi. I have a problem with the gnome-screensaver. I have my screensaver set to start at five minutes after the computer has been idle. After five minutes the screen will dim black as if screensaver is about to start, but instead a screensaver...the screen dims black and then immediately returns to the desktop. Why would my screensavers start? It happens on all of 'em.
[20:36] <MATAH> Archdave: what are u interested in?
[20:36] <Snakkah> I meant why won't my screensavers start...
[20:36] <Archdave> ustreaming from ubuntu
[20:36] <raven> oCean, not direct but i do not know if anything has changed it
[20:36] <Archdave> http://www.ustream.tv/
[20:36] <Archdave> I've had this working before but something has changed
[20:37] <Galvatron> Testing123: This is strange
[20:37] <Archdave> ustream used to be able to let me select linux microphone as the audio input but not in lists the actual sound card instead
[20:37] <usr13> raven: Can you go to the machine and try local login?
[20:37] <Testing123> Galvatron:  i know
[20:37] <oCean> usr13: he is locally logged in. Ssh localhost succeeds
[20:37] <oCean> raven: run a sudo tail -f /var/log/auth.log on the server and try to ssh in (from remote)
[20:38] <Archdave> btw, the Arch in Archdave is because I live near St. Louis
[20:39] <borillion_> guys I have script that expects /dev/mmcblk0 to be like /dev/sdX
[20:39] <Galvatron> Testing123: As a last resort try "sudo aptitude purge update-manager", then reboot and "sudo aptitude install update-manager".
[20:39] <borillion_> how can I fix that
[20:39] <borillion_> are you allowed to make dev smlinks?
[20:39] <nerxgas> how do i change my webcam image settings?
[20:39] <ikonia> borillion_: if you want
[20:39] <bluelamp> what is the difference between remove and completely remove
[20:40] <Galvatron> bluelamp: Probably "completely remove" will also purge configuration files.
[20:40] <MATAH> bluelamp: completely remove = remove with all settings
[20:40] <Archdave> completely remove also removes the config files
[20:40] <dzup> the word "completely" <-- ??
[20:40] <Galvatron> Then my guesswas correct.
[20:40] <bluelamp> fine. so long as it does not rip dependencies from other packages on its way out :) thanks
[20:40] <Archdave> nope
[20:40] <Testing123> Galvatron:  is asking me to remove ubuntu-desktop and update-notifier and leave unsolved dependencies apport-gtk and software-center, what should i do?
[20:41] <OerHeks> !upgrade
[20:42] <chaospsychex> how do i switch to another tty from gnome?
[20:43] <Polah> chaospsychex: Ctrl+Alt+F1-6
[20:43] <XGaryG> Where do I get a list of what is running? I am trying to open something, and the system says it is already running.
[20:43] <Polah> XGaryG: man ps
[20:43] <Archdave> bbl
[20:43] <BarkingFish> XGaryG, open a terminal and type ps aux - hit enter and it will give you a list of everything which is running
[20:43] <Galvatron> Testing123: Let it go.
[20:43] <chaospsychex> polah: why am i on tty7?
[20:44] <chaospsychex> i figured gnome session would be on tty1
[20:44] <chaospsychex> how can i remotely log in to a tty on this computer?
[20:45] <XGaryG> There is nothing on the desktop to list hidden windows?
[20:45] <chaospsychex> say i want to allow someone to login and use tty3
[20:45] <aleuck> hello! I need help making the NotifyOSD show the halt notifications when sending shutdown -h [time]
[20:45] <chaospsychex> how is that achieved over a network?
[20:45] <Polah> chaospsychex: SSH
[20:45] <Testing123> Galvatron:  now what?
[20:46] <chaospsychex> ss?h
[20:46] <BarkingFish> XGaryG, you could try CTRL+ESC - I know that brings up a window with programs running in it, but I'm on Kubuntu.
[20:46] <Zzarkc-20> Hey, I'm working with ubuntu server. How do I create another sudo user?
[20:46] <BarkingFish> Whether that works from Ubuntu or not (gnome thingy) I don't know
[20:46] <aleuck> Zzarkc-20: edit the sudoers file
[20:46] <Galvatron> Testing123: If you haven't done so, reboot and install update manager again.
[20:47] <Testing123> Galvatron:  brb im on the same pc
[20:47] <Polah> chaospsychex: I don't know, that's just where GUIs like to go. Someone else could probably tell you
[20:47] <XGaryG> BarkingFish, That doesn't seem to work from the hybred gnome.
[20:47] <aleuck> Zzarkc-20: /etc/sudoers
[20:47] <chaospsychex> ok so there are tty 1-9 right?
[20:47] <BarkingFish> XGaryG, then your other option is as I said, open a terminal up and type ps aux
[20:47] <bfig> (natty 11.04)::my graphic environment just reverted to a grey topic... how can i get it back to normal?
[20:48] <bfig> grey theme*
[20:48] <aleuck> Zzarkc-20: or add the user to the admin or sudo group
[20:48] <BarkingFish> that will list all the programs running on your system
[20:48] <chaospsychex> so i could have 9 different users using this one machine via net at a time correct? each with their own keyboard and monitor?
[20:48] <Polah> chaospsychex: 1-8 I think. 1-6 are text, 7 has X and 8 is used if X is killed
[20:48] <Snakkah> Hi. I have a problem with the gnome-screensaver. I have my screensaver set to start at five minutes after the computer has been idle. After five minutes the screen will dim black as if screensaver is about to start, but instead a screensaver...the screen dims black and then immediately returns to the desktop. Why won't my screensavers start? It happens on all of 'em.
[20:48] <aleuck> hello! I need help making the NotifyOSD show the halt notifications when sending shutdown -h [time]
[20:48] <born2troll> i unistalled wine but my computer still thinks it is installed. how to fix that?
[20:48] <chaospsychex> ok so 1-6 with a terminal and 1 with X at a time
[20:48] <Polah> chaospsychex: If the system is running in multi user mode, yes.
[20:48] <BarkingFish> 8 can also be used if you have 2 GUI logins running, Polah
[20:49] <g0th> hi, I have an nvidia geforce gtx 260, how do I enable nvidia 3d vision in ubuntu?
[20:49] <XGaryG> top would get me that.
[20:49] <BarkingFish> Your base user on 7, and if you login as root, it will go on 8
[20:49] <chaospsychex> how do i determine if it's running in multi user mode?
[20:49] <Polah> BarkingFish: Log in as root on 7?
[20:49] <chaospsychex> so the user that is physically on the machine is 7?
[20:49] <chaospsychex> so i could have 1-6 terminal users?
[20:49] <born2troll> wine is still installed after i uninstalled it! how can i get rid of it?
[20:50] <BarkingFish> no, I open 7 with kubuntu, Polah - and then drop to a tty, login as root and do startx - which open a root GUI session on 8 for me :)
[20:50] <kazik> hi!
[20:50] <yeats> born2troll: how did you install it to begin with?
[20:50] <BarkingFish> so I have my normal user on 7, and root on 8
[20:51] <Polah> chaospsychex: I think SSH uses pseudo-ttys
[20:51] <Polah> BarkingFish: Oh, I see.
[20:51] <born2troll> yeats im not sure i think with apt-get but i allso have the wine ppa in my sources
[20:51] <mouse> I just accidentally did sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf when I meant to open it with gedit.  How do I undo this?
[20:51] <Polah> BarkingFish: Is 8 a standby for X then? When I go to it it's just a flashing underscore with no input like the other non-7 ttys
[20:52] <chaospsychex> i have a login prompt on most of the ttr
[20:52] <chaospsychex> *tty
[20:52] <Polah> chaospsychex: Yes, that's how it's supposed to be, it's just 8 doesn't I think
[20:52] <BarkingFish> Polah, I have no idea what 8's normal function is, i just know when I startx from a root login on tty1, it opens a root session on 8 for me.
[20:53] <chaospsychex> yeah 8 is the same way for me, just a flashing underscore
[20:53] <born2troll> yeats im not sure i think with apt-get but i allso have the wine ppa in my sources
[20:53] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> That's how it shoul'd behave
[20:53] <yeats> born2troll: can you pastebin the output of 'dpkg -l | grep wine' and share the link?
[20:53] <chaospsychex> what is tty8 for
[20:53] <testing123> Galvatron:  stiil the same :(
[20:54] <chaospsychex> i guess i am asking is it possible to access tty1-7 of this machine on another machine "?
[20:54] <born2troll> yeats http://paste.debian.net/127530/
[20:54] <Polah> chaospsychex, nothing. I guess it just sits there until you start another X server. Also, you can add more ttys by editing some files, I believe.
[20:55] <aleuck> hello! I need help making the NotifyOSD show the halt notifications when sending shutdown -h [time]
[20:55] <Zzarkc-20> Hey. I'm trying to make a user that has write permissions only within a particular folder on a server. How do I go about making this folder, and restricting his persmissions?
[20:55] <Polah> chaospyschex: No, not directly. SSH allows users to log in with text interfaces though
[20:55] <Galvatron> testing123: What a persistent piece of junk.
[20:55] <testing123> lol Galvatron
[20:55] <yeats> born2troll: okay - wine is removed (which is indicated by 'rc'), but a couple of auxilary programs aren't
[20:56] <chaospsychex> aren't there computers that do this? have lots of cores and lots of ram and every user just has a monitor and keyboard?
[20:56] <yeats> born2troll: do 'sudo apt-get remove wine1.3-gecko winetricks' to get rid of the rest
[20:57] <chaospsychex> what are those client boxes called? that hook up to the monitor and keyboard and mouse?
[20:57] <XGaryG> So far not having a quick way to list hidden windows to bring to the front is the first real deficiency I have found in Ubuntu.
[20:57] <Polah> chaospsychex: They're called thin clients.
[20:57] <chaospsychex> ahh thin clients
[20:57] <chaospsychex> ok what is the server of the thin clients called ?
[20:57] <Galvatron> testing123: All I can recommend for now is waiting for the next update.
[20:58] <Polah> chaospsychex: But really if all you want is them to have access to text interfaces, install an SSH server on the machine and then have a suitable program installed on the computer you want to connect from.
[20:58] <testing123> Galvatron:  OK :)
[20:58] <chaospsychex> say i have a 4 bedroom house and want 1 server and 4 thin clients
[20:58] <Cu3rv0> hola
[20:58] <Cu3rv0> ke tal
[20:58] <Cu3rv0> alguien me leee
[20:58] <chaospsychex> what kind of specs would the server need ? how much ram and cpu cores?
[20:58] <born2troll> yeats i did... still when i type "wine" in the shell i get the usage message instead of "command not found"
[20:59] <chaospsychex> does ubuntu server support this kind of setup ?
[20:59] <Cu3rv0> +nadie habla españis+
[20:59] <Polah> chaospsychex: Why do you want them connected, file sharing?
[21:00] <yeats> born2troll: what is the output of 'which wine'?
[21:00] <born2troll> yeats the final goal is to get wine on version 1.2+ so i can play a game. but dosent matter what i do i allways get "1.1.12" as version
[21:00] <Pitel> how can I copy some folder, which is in fact symlink, over network using nautilus?
[21:00] <Polah> chaospyschex: Here's the wiki page about thin clients on ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP, but if you want file sharing then setting up network shares would be much much easier. You might also want to look into things like Kerberos
[21:01] <born2troll> yeats /usr/local/bin/wine
[21:01] <guntbert> testing123: did you show us your /etc/apt/sources.list and all files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d  ?  if not please use a pastebin :)
[21:01] <chaospsychex> i don't want to buy 4 desktops, i would rather have 4 thin clients and a server
[21:01] <testing123> guntbert:  negative
[21:02] <guntbert> testing123: let us have a look
[21:02] <born2troll> yeats /usr/local/bin/wine do i need a hammer to solve it?
[21:02] <Polah> chaospsychex, thin clients still require a system of their own they just get their data and perhaps do processing on the main server.
[21:02] <WiCkD1> hello
[21:02] <chaospsychex> yes i know
[21:02] <yeats> born2troll: checking something ...
[21:02] <chaospsychex> im going to buy 4 thin client systems
[21:02] <chaospsychex> and build a server for them
[21:03] <yeats> born2troll: did you *ever* build it from source before?
[21:03] <testing123> guntbert:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/675537/
[21:03] <Zzarkc-20> Can someone help me out with making a user on a server that has write permissions within a specific folder? It's for setting up an ftp connection.
[21:03] <Polah> chaospsychex, which is four computers anyway, so why not just do individual installs on them and then use network storage?
[21:03] <chaospsychex> read this and you will know why
[21:04] <chaospsychex> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin_client cheap client hardware and client simplicity
[21:04] <Polah> zzarkc-20: man chmod for changing permissions
[21:04] <yeats> born2troll: when I install wine from the wine PPA, the path is /usr/bin/wine, not /usr/local/bin/wine - so it looks like you may have installed it manually before...
[21:04] <Polah> chaospsychex: Ubuntu would run standalone on even low-end systems that you would set up as thin clients.
[21:05] <born2troll> yeats how do i get rid of it?
[21:05] <suigeneris> hi
[21:05] <Guest43614> ubuntu rules, man
[21:05] <suigeneris> I have a problem
[21:05] <yeats> born2troll: that's why I'm asking if you've installed it from source
[21:05] <mouse> I just accidentally did sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf when I meant to open it with gedit.  How do I undo this?
[21:05] <suigeneris> I have just re-installed maybe 5-6 times
[21:05] <chaospsychex> i don't want the each client to have an individual ubuntu install
[21:05] <chaospsychex> i want one ubuntu install on the server
[21:06] <testing123> guntbert:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/675537/
[21:06] <suigeneris> I still get grub-rescue> prompt
[21:06] <Guest43614> some stuffs i did on windows took so much time and when i switched to ubuntu those stuffs have been made on a blink
[21:06] <suigeneris> how can I install grub?
[21:06] <guntbert> testing123: looks normal to my eyes, did you try with sudo aptitude safe-upgrade? that often solves those pesky "partial-upgrade" problems
[21:06] <Polah> chaospsychex, if you also read that section it explains that you need a server capable of handling the running the needs of 3-4 systems. Anyway, look at the link I sent you earlier for setting up thin clients.
[21:06] <born2troll> yeats now that you are mention it... i think i did once...
[21:06] <Polah> suigeneris: man grub-install
[21:06] <testing123> guntbert:  yes
[21:06] <yeats> born2troll: can you see anything with 'locate wine'?
[21:07] <Zzarkc-20>  Polah: I've been trying to work with that ,but I'm obviously not getting syntax correct. I tried sudo chmod -u user_here /path/to/file
[21:07] <chaospsychex> yeah i am going to setup a server capable of doing that
[21:07] <Zzarkc-20> and It told me the file didn't exist, which it clearly does as I just made it.
[21:07] <suigeneris> Polah, sudo grub-install /dev/sdb
[21:07] <suigeneris> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `aufs'.
[21:07] <Jordan_U> suigeneris: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[21:07] <suigeneris> Jordan_U, yes
[21:08] <Polah> zzardkc-20: chmod <permissions> <file>. Perhaps set that user as the owner of the folder or the same group, or perhaps make the folder publically accessible?
[21:08] <suigeneris> Jordan_U, /dev/sdb is my OS, and sda is storage
[21:08] <Polah> suigeneris: I believe you need to set an install directory, sudo grub-install --root-directory=/path/to/dir /dev/sdX
[21:08] <guntbert> testing123: then I don't know either - sorry (although I seem to remember some sort of database corruption within the apt-database...)
[21:08] <Jordan_U> suigeneris: Try just changing the boot order in your BIOS. You're likely booting from a drive with an old broken grub install (i.e. *not* the one that the most recent Ubuntu installation installed grub's boot sector to).
[21:09] <testing123> guntbert:  :) np
[21:09] <yeats> born2troll: if you still have the source directory, you may be able to cd into the directory and do 'make uninstall' (reference http://www.winehq.org/docs/wineusr-guide/installing-wine-source)
[21:09] <suigeneris> Jordan_U, I even formatted the drive when getting rid of debian
[21:09] <testing123> guntbert:  ... database curromtpion? hummm it might be (dunno why)
[21:10] <suigeneris> Polah, what should the --root-directory be?
[21:10] <shbk> hello, does command `su -` work for anybody(in ubuntu)? as I understand it doesn't work in ubuntu , one should use `sudo -i ` instead
[21:10] <Polah> suigeneris: usually /boot
[21:10] <born2troll> yeats yes it seems to work
[21:10] <testing123> il try the janitor guntbert
[21:10] <dttah> guys I installed iTunes 10 on PlayOnLinux but it field it does't work, I uninstalled it from PlayOnLinux but some files if iTunes left, I found they by search I tried to delete them manually but im getting eror says "Error stating file '/home/dttah/Music/iTunes/iTunes Library.itl': No such file or directory" but the file exists
[21:10] <yeats> born2troll: great!
[21:10] <guntbert> testing123: such things happen, but I honestly don't know how to deal with such a beast (I don't expect the janitor to help..)
[21:11] <born2troll> yeats it woked! thank you so much!<3 *big kiss*
[21:11] <Polah> shbk: I imagine it should work but there's no default root password to log in with so you can't do anything with it
[21:11] <yeats> born2troll: :-D
[21:11] <Polah> testing123, have you tried installing the later version of wine over it?
[21:11] <suigeneris> shbk, since ubuntu doesn't have root, you should use sudo -i or -s
[21:11] <born2troll> yeats compleatly forgott i installed from source 2 years ago...
[21:11] <testing123> Polah:  no
[21:11] <shbk> I use
[21:11] <Jordan_U> suigeneris: That doesn't matter. Grub's boot secotor and core.img are stored in and just after the mbr. All of the grub files can be in a partition on /dev/sdb while grub's boot sector is still in /dev/sda. And after formatting /dev/sda, since the mbr and post-mbr gap still exist, you could have a broken grub install there still.
[21:11] <shbk> thanks, just interesting
[21:12] <Zzarkc-20> Polah: So to add a file to a user's write permissions, I would have to make them a sudoer, then chmod with them, and then turn them off of sudo?
[21:12] <suigeneris> Jordan_U, so, how can I fix it?
[21:13] <dttah> guys I installed iTunes 10 on PlayOnLinux but it field it does't work, I uninstalled it from PlayOnLinux but some files if iTunes left, I found they by search I tried to delete them manually but im getting eror says "Error stating file '/home/dttah/Music/iTunes/iTunes Library.itl': No such file or directory" but the file exists, anyone please?
[21:13] <matthijs_> hi there, I'm looking for the "classic application switcher" in 11.04
[21:13] <matthijs_> The one that came with metacity
[21:13] <matthijs_> any pointers on that?
[21:13] <Jordan_U> suigeneris: The easiest way would be to change the boot order in your BIOS, then for good measure (once booted into Ubuntu) run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" and configure the grub-pc packaging to always install grub to both sda and sdb so it doesn't matter which is first in the boot order.
[21:13] <Zzarkc-20> Polah: Like, I can log in as either user to the server, but if i log in with root, I can't specify the other user owns the file, and if I log in as the new user, I can't use sudo...
[21:14] <yeats> dttah: what is the output of 'file /home/dttah/Music/iTunes/iTunes Library.itl'?
[21:14] <Jordan_U> suigeneris: You can also install grub to both drive's boot sector from the liveCD if you want, but it's more steps.
[21:14] <Polah> zzarkc-20: No, use chown to change the file's owner to the user and set the first permissions number to what you want, or chgrp to change the file group to one that the user is in or add the user to the group of the file, or set the public permissions for the file so it's publically writeable
[21:15] <yeats> dttah: actually, I see the problem - add a \ (backslash) before the space in "iTunes Library"
[21:15] <Polah> Jordan_U: wouldnt' that just require using grub-install twice and specifying /boot on each drive and changing the letter for /dev/sdX
[21:16] <suigeneris> Jordan_U, I don't think I want to change the boot order
[21:16] <yeats> dttah: if you do 'rm /home/dttah/Music/iTunes/iTunes\ Library.itl' it should work
[21:16] <hzsp> hi.  I'm looking for some instructions on creating an ubuntu server installation *on* a USB drive.  (I'm not installing /from/ a USB drive)
[21:16] <dttah> yeats, Im in GNU mode also there are some other files that say u cant delete the files because your are't owner, and says root is owner, but i have only this account so whos the root ?
[21:17] <guntbert> dttah: you need to use sudo
[21:17] <guntbert> !sudo | dttah
[21:17] <Jordan_U> Polah: You wouldn't ever specify a directory on sda, the data drive, as an option to grub-install's --boot-directory= option as no matter where the boot sector + core.img go /boot/ is still on the Ubuntu partition.
[21:17] <rain> hi
[21:18] <Slart> dttah: root is the.. base account .. it's always there.. use sudo if you want to do things as "root".. so.. rm somefile   will try to remove the file as your normal user..    sudo rm somefile   will do the same thing, but as "root"
[21:18] <rain> does anyone know how to deny directory renaming?
[21:18] <rain> after executing sudo chmod -R -v 0555 /home/rain/www/ipb I can still rename ipb
[21:18] <suigeneris> !grub2
[21:18] <guntbert> rain: a use can rename a directory if she has permissions to write in the parent
[21:18] <Polah> dttah: If it's owned by root by default then you probably shouldn't delete it
[21:18] <Jordan_U> suigeneris: Follow this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot and run grub-install twice, once to /dev/sda and again to /dev/sdb.
[21:18] <born2troll> someone know how to install all dependencys before i compile sth from source?
[21:19] <dttah> Slart, ubottu  guntbert should I just run terminal and type "sudo" ?
[21:19] <iluminator101> Could not display "smb:///".
[21:19] <iluminator101> Error: Failed to retrieve share list from server
[21:19] <iluminator101> Please select another viewer and try again.
[21:19] <yeats> born2troll: what are you trying to install?
[21:19] <guntbert> dttah: you open a terminal, and type sudo <thecommandYouwant>
[21:19] <Slart> dttah: run the terminal.. but then instead of typing    rm somefile   you instead type   sudo rm somefile   ie you put sudo before the other command
[21:19] <Polah> dttah: Prepend your command line with sudo
[21:20] <rain> is there any other way to deny renaming ipb than removing write access from www dir?
[21:20] <Slart> dttah: but if this is new to you I would recommend you stay away from removing files that are owned by root.. they are usually important in some way
[21:20] <born2troll> yeats nothing specific... i just forgott how to get the dependencys and wanted to refresh my memory while im here...
[21:20] <guntbert> dttah: and it really helps to actually read the links from ubottu :)
[21:20] <iluminator101> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/465033/
[21:21] <born2troll> yeats but we can say i dl the source of wesnoth and wanna make install it. how do i install all requirements first?
[21:21] <testing123> Polah:  guntbert  is there anyway to rebuild the package db?
[21:22] <yeats> born2troll: usually the steps are download/uncompress-extract/cd into the directory/read the README or INSTALL/'./configure'/'make'/'sudo make install'
[21:22] <guntbert> testing123: as far as I remember there is, but I don't know the procedure
[21:23] <yeats> born2troll: if it's something in the repos, you can do 'sudo apt-get build-dep <package-name>' to grab the dependencies for a source build
[21:23] <Polah> testing123: What do you mean? What exactly are you trying to do again?
[21:23] <guntbert> born2troll: and while running ./configure it tells you about anything missing
[21:23] <born2troll> yeats build-dep... thx
[21:24] <suigeneris> okay. now to try
[21:24] <testing123> Polah:  if i always get to update must measn something aint ok on the pkg db
[21:24] <suigeneris> brb
[21:24] <dttah> Slart, guntbert  Polah ok actually it asks for password but i have never locked it with password and have no idea what's the password is on it lol
[21:24] <xavi123> I'm running bind9 but i want to use my local name server in /etc/resolv.conf how do i make it so it doesn't get overwritten ?
[21:24] <Slart> dttah: read the link ubottu sent you.. please
[21:24] <born2troll> yeats u are like a infinite source of knowledge
[21:24] <guntbert> dttah: you give your own password
[21:25] <guntbert> dttah: and ^^
[21:25] <dttah> Slart, guntbert thanks
[21:25] <Polah> dttah: sudo uses your own
[21:25] <dttah> su: Authentication failure
[21:25] <dttah> lol
[21:25] <Polah> testing123: What? When you run apt-get update it updates your package lists? It's supposed to do that every time...
[21:25] <xavi123> i just want to use 127.0.0.1 in /etc/resolv.conf perm
[21:25] <guntbert> dttah: sudo, NOT su
[21:26] <dttah> oh thanks )
[21:26] <acetoline> would it be really weird if I decided to stay on 9.10 instead of upgrading to 10.04?
[21:26] <testing123> Polah:  so why do i get always a partial distributiuon update when going to update-manager
[21:27] <Polah> testing123: Partial distribution update? What do you mean? You try to upgrade distribution and it fails?
[21:27] <guntbert> acetoline: 9.10 is !eol
[21:27] <Polah> acetoline: Wouldn't be wierd, but wouldn't be advisable.
[21:27] <Jordan_U> testing123: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[21:27] <acetoline> Polah, will I get a virus
[21:27] <testing123> Polah:  my problem started after a dist upgrade
[21:27] <testing123> Jordan_U:  yes
[21:27] <yeats> born2troll: nope! ;-) you're just asking questions I know the answers to ;-)
[21:27] <gridbag> How  do you install the adobe flash player? I've followed the instructions about 20 times now and it FUCKING DOES NOT WORK.
[21:28] <Jordan_U> !language | gridbag
[21:28] <gridbag> "Click here to install flash player!"   ?!?!?!
[21:28] <Dox> Hey all. I'm doing a fresh install of Ubuntu. I was wondering if anyone uses the server edition of ubuntu as a minimal install then installs the Windows manager of choice.
[21:28] <Polah> testing123, Jordan_U: dist-upgrade upgrades package that are distribution-safe, it doesn't actually upgrade your distribution
[21:28] <m1h0> hi , any idea why cairo-dock gives unsatisfied dependancies
[21:28] <gridbag> Really, how many years does it take to fix this this stuff?
[21:28] <guntbert> acetoline: not a virus, but you won't get any security updates any more
[21:28] <Polah> Dox: There's a minimal ISO already prepared. The server actually comes with things like openssh-server and suchlike I believe.
[21:29] <Dox> Polah What is that titled/where can I find it? Thanks for the reply.
[21:29] <Polah> gridbag: As many as it takes to install a flash player. What flash player do you have installed?
[21:29] <Polah> !minimal | Dox
[21:29] <m1h0> hi , any idea why cairo-dock gives unsatisfied dependancies http://pastie.org/2435637
[21:29] <testing123> Polah:  :/ iv made the update manager distribution upgrade
[21:29] <Dox> ubottu Thanks buddy
[21:29] <Jordan_U> Polah: I know that. A "partial upgrade" in update-manager's terms is a dist-upgrade in apt-get's terms. It means that there are some packages which cannot be upgraded without adding/removing others. "sudo apt-get upgrade" will tell me which packages are problematic.
[21:30] <acetoline> guntbert, I just want to assess my cost/benefit ratio here. How serious would my security situation be if I stayed with 9.10 ?
[21:30] <gridbag> adobe and Chrome says there's a builtin Shockwave Flash player in about:plugins.  Um, wrong.  I'm not even running fancy stuff, and the mainline "help" page are completely, totally wrong.
[21:30] <Polah> Dox: It's like 12MB, but after you install you need to download almost everything, which may add up to quite a lot.
[21:30] <gridbag> I'm so angry right now. I don't even care.
[21:30] <Polah> gridbag: Never heard of a built in flash player. sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer should solve your problems
[21:30] <Dox> Polah I just want to avoid any unessary programs. Ubuntu seems to have become more bulky over the years
[21:31] <guntbert> acetoline: we cannot know the future... but what is the cost of upgrading?
[21:31] <testing123> Polah:  Jordan_U  0 packages to add remove or update either on apt-get update or apt-get dis-upgrade
[21:31] <Polah> Dox: If you plan to have it fairly similar to a full install minus programs you don't want, it might be quicker to get the normal ISO and remove packages.
[21:31] <nick__________> Hi all, I have ubuntu 9.10 server installed on a headless machine in my basement.  I received a thin client from a friend, and installed ltsp on the server.  Upon realizing that ltsp needs a desktop environment to run, I installed ubuntu-desktop on my server.  After restart, my server boots, but my samba shares aren't found, ssh is broken, however I can still ping by host name and ip address.
[21:31] <acetoline> guntbert, great and crippling, because everybody I know who has upgraded to 10.04 has had serious issues
[21:32] <Jordan_U> testing123: Can you post a screenshot of the error message you see from update-manager?
[21:32] <GreekFreak> Hello. How can I make "killall pulseaudio" permanent?
[21:32] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | testing123
[21:32] <testing123> Jordan_U:  ok 1 sec (it will be in portuguese)
[21:33] <Polah> GreekFreak: Remove pulseaudio or disable it's init script to stop it coming up on boot.
[21:33] <guntbert> acetoline: serious issues? I didn't have any
[21:33] <Polah> GreekFreak: Or, do you only want it stopped temporarily?
[21:34] <Jordan_U> testing123: You can run any command / program in English by openening a terminal and running "LANG=C programname", for example "LANG=C update-manager".
[21:34] <GreekFreak> no I've tweaked the daemon.conf file a bit (made it 6stack and enabled bass lfe remixing) and it only works if I hit killall
[21:34] <GreekFreak> so I kinda want it permanent
[21:34] <testing123> Jordan_U:  did not knew doing it
[21:35] <Polah> GreekFreak: So you have to restart pulse to have your settings work?
[21:35] <juso> how can I remove the linux bootloader on a dual boot win/ubuntu ?
[21:35] <GreekFreak> Polah: Nope. Killall. That's it
[21:35] <KadirB> hello
[21:35] <Polah> juso: Installing another bootloader will wipe over the MBR where GRUB is installed.
[21:35] <guntbert> juso: you should not if you stil want to boot ubuntu
[21:35] <guntbert> *still
[21:36] <juso> guntbert, i moved to a dedicate ubuntu machine
[21:36] <juso> =D
[21:36] <GreekFreak> and it worked. I had proper 5.1, no video audio out of sync, and my Stereo music had a woofer
[21:36] <juso> i guess i need to overwrite it with the windows boot loader?
[21:36] <Polah> juso: The Windows bootloader only boots Windows.
[21:36] <juso> Polah, yes. i know
[21:36] <suigeneris> hi again
[21:37] <Polah> juso: GRUB can boot Windows and Linux, GRUB is what you want for Ubuntu on its own or a dual boot system...
[21:37] <guntbert> juso: in that case what Polah said, or use fixmbr (but that is outside the topic of this channel)
[21:37] <Jordan_U> GreekFreak: Try asking in #pulseaudio, but I recommend rather than asking how to "make killall pulseaudio" permanent you explain that "killall pulseaudio" seems to fix things and ask how to fix them properly.
[21:37] <juso> Polah, yes. i know
[21:37] <testing123> Jordan_U:  screen one http://img.virtual2.net/images/capturyey.png screen 2 http://img.virtual2.net/images/capturada.png
[21:37] <GreekFreak> Thank you Jordan_U. I'll give it a try
[21:37] <Polah> juso: So why would you want the Windows bootloader on a machine with only Ubuntu on it like you just said?
[21:38] <suigeneris> Jordan_U, I did what the page you linked me to said, and when I rebooted I got error: no such device: <longstring> grub-rescue>
[21:39] <juso> Polah, what? i never said that.
[21:39] <suigeneris> Jordan_U, I think some grub leftovers are stuck in my MBR and I must get rid of them
[21:39] <Polah> Dox: Don't PM me please, speak in this channel.
[21:39] <g0th> hi
[21:39] <acetoline> thanks all for your help
[21:39] <Polah> juso: "i moved to a dedicated ubuntu machine"
[21:39] <testing123> Jordan_U:  screen one http://img.virtual2.net/images/capturyey.png screen 2 http://img.virtual2.net/images/capturada.png
[21:40] <g0th> I have a benq 3d monitor that should support 120Hz at 1920x1080, it just shows up to 60 Hz though, 120 Hz shows up for lower resolutions. Any ideas why?
[21:40] <juso> Polah, yes exactly. i MOVED ubuntu to a dedicated machine.
[21:40] <juso> hence NOT the dual booting machine.
[21:40] <Jordan_U_bak> testing123: Can you pastebin the complete output of "sudo LANG=C apt-get upgrade"?
[21:41] <Polah> juso: That's not what you said, you said YOU moved to a dedicated ubuntu machine, i.e. you were on a system only running Ubuntu. Anyway, I believe you can fix the Windows bootloader from an install disk.
[21:41] <suigeneris> when I do fdisk -l, both drives show * under Boot. is this normal?
[21:41] <Jordan_U_bak> suigeneris: Yes, and irrelevant.
[21:41] <GunClive> hi. my printer often is displayed as plugged off even when not. when i plug the usb in and out sometimes the problem is fixed then but not always. other times once my printer was plugged in for about 30 minutes it works from alone. how can i always use it? thanks.
[21:42] <juso> lol at you telling me what i ment, when I said it.
[21:42] <testing123> Jordan_U_bak: http://paste.ubuntu.com/675560/
[21:42] <juso> okay I will try and use boot cd
[21:42] <francis> I am new to Ubuntu
[21:42] <Polah> juso: That is what you said. You didn't say you moved Ubuntu to another machine, you said you moved to a "dedicated ubuntu machine".
[21:42] <Jordan_U_bak> testing123: Very odd.
[21:42] <suigeneris> Jordan_U_bak, what else can I do? how can I get rid of grub leftovers? I had debian before, maybe that's why?
[21:42] <Polah> francis: Ask any questions you have and we'll try to answer them.
[21:43] <francis> and I am confused that when I sudo a command
[21:43] <francis> it loses the environment variables
[21:43] <Jordan_U_bak> suigeneris: I would recommend installing grub, from Ubuntu and configured to look at Ubuntu's /boot, to both drives.
[21:43] <francis> I can be more specific if you like
[21:43] <Polah> francis: Running a command as sudo runs the command as the root user, not yourself.
[21:43] <rryk> Good time of the day. I have started a build at the university machine in a terminal window on the desktop, locked the machine up and went home. Now I would like to view the remote desktop, however I have not configured it previously (like goint to System--Preferences--Remote Desktop and ticking checkboxes). I have root access on this machine and can connect to the shell over SSH. Is it possible to set up remote desktop access to my Ub
[21:43] <francis> yes, I understand that- at least I understand the priciple
[21:44] <testing123> Jordan_U_bak:  yes in deed
[21:44] <francis> but I do not understand how to preserve my environment variables
[21:44] <francis> or to provide them to all users
[21:44] <francis> myself and sudo included
[21:44] <francis> is this a sensible approach
[21:44] <francis> ?
[21:44] <suigeneris> Jordan_U_bak, I installed grub without any reported problems, and yet I got that grub rescue>
[21:45] <c0st4nt1n0> Salve
[21:45] <guntbert> testing123: and di you try with aptitude too? I now remember once solving a similar problem by using apt-get instead of aptitude (or the other way round)
[21:45] <guntbert> !enter | francis
[21:45] <Polah> rryk: ssh -X enables X11 forwarding, which I believe should give you a GUI to use if one is running.
[21:45] <francis> ok
[21:45] <user> Who can help me with sound problems?
[21:45] <rryk> Polah: this will give me a new session, so I won't be able to see that terminal window that I have opened earlier today
[21:46] <usr13> !sound |user
[21:46] <testing123> guntbert: same result
[21:46] <guntbert> testing123: sad - I was just fishing for ideas
[21:46] <francis> guntbert, would you like me to repeat the question?
[21:47] <testing123> guntbert:  i still have one :p format
[21:47] <rryk> francis: please do so for me
[21:47] <guntbert> francis: yes please but try to shorten it a little... :-))
[21:48] <guntbert> testing123: ?
[21:48] <Polah> rryk: Ah, I see what you mean. I don't know about connecting to existing sessions over SSH.
[21:48] <francis> I need some env vars available with sudo
[21:48] <testing123> guntbert:  i cann always format and put ubuntu 11.04 fresh :)
[21:48] <guntbert> testing123: :)
[21:48] <rryk> Polah: It's possible with Remote Desktop, but I have forgotten to set it up on my new installation. Now I wonder if I really have to go to university on Saturday just to press a couple of buttons there :)
[21:49] <suigeneris> Jordan_U_bak, I found the line GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian` in grub.cfg. I think that means debian's grub still is in my MBR. how can I get rid of it?
[21:49] <Jordan_U_bak> suigeneris: No, that is not at all what that means.
[21:49] <guntbert> francis: not advisable, when using sudo you have the restricted environment that is regarded as secure for the superuser
[21:49] <rryk> Polah: asking this on forum would kill the purpose of the question - I will the answer later than I can simply go and set it up in place
[21:50] <Polah> rryk: Perhaps this may help: http://www.samlesher.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-704-enabledisable-remote-desktop-from-the-command-line
[21:50] <rryk> Polah: *I will get the answer
[21:50] <g0th> anyone?
[21:50] <Polah> g0th: What's your question?
[21:50] <Jordan_U_bak> suigeneris: If you follow the instructions I linked you to, and install to both /dev/sda and /dev/sdb as I explained, you will not have any problem.
[21:50] <suigeneris> Jordan_U_bak, is there an equivalent to fdisk/mbr on linux?
[21:50] <rryk> Polah: Thanks. Tried that. It still requires me to check checkboxes as described here: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/share-your-ubuntu-desktop-using-remote-desktop.html
[21:50] <suigeneris> Jordan_U_bak, can you link me again? I am on a livecd
[21:51] <keithb> francis: have you tried sudo -E
[21:51] <Polah> suigeneris: You can use dd to write/read the MBR section.
[21:51] <rryk> g0th: what was you questions? I have just arrived and didn't see it.
[21:51] <francis> guntbert: I am using 'make install' for golang - without the environment variables the install doesn't know where to go. My alternative is to relax security on the golang directories
[21:51] <francis> keithb: no, I will try it now
[21:51] <suigeneris> !chroot
[21:52] <suigeneris> no, that's not it
[21:52] <JRWR> im running php-fpm in a chroot (using dchroot) and I wanted to make a app armor profile for it using aa-autodep if my path to my chroot is /var/chroot, how would i tell aa-autodep what path to use
[21:52] <guntbert> francis: in that case just prepend the environment settings to your call, like sudo SOMEVAR=somevalue make install
[21:52] <user> Can anyone help me with a sound problem I'm having please. It was working fine a couple min ago.
[21:52] <Jordan_U_bak> suigeneris: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot Be sure to run grub-install twice, once to /dev/sda and again to /dev/sdb. And after you are booted back into Ubuntu run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" and when prompted select both sda and sdb as install devices.
[21:53] <francis> guntbert: Thx
[21:53] <Polah> suigeneris: I guess you want to wipe your MBR?
[21:53] <guntbert> francis: Good luck :-)
[21:53] <suigeneris> Polah, yes
[21:53] <Polah> !ask | user
[21:53] <francis> guntbert: I will need it :)
[21:54] <user> Here is my sound problem: ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[21:54] <user> aplay: main:654: audio open error: Device or resource busy
[21:54] <user> But I'm on Pulsaudio
[21:54] <usr13> user: alsamixer
[21:54] <user> usr13: But I'm using Puleuadio
[21:55] <xanScale> need help for installing ubuntu on ac100 (arm)
[21:55] <user> How can I set all to Pulsaudio?
[21:55] <usr13> user: What happens when you run alsamixer?  Do you see the sound card identified correctly?
[21:55] <Peder_> Hi. I am running ubuntu and xbmc on asrock ion 330. Im having trouble getting sound, even in gnome. I want to use sound via spdif. Does anyone have any ideas to get it working?
[21:56] <user> usr13: How do I run that?
[21:56] <usr13> !Pulsaudio
[21:56] <usr13> user: Open a terminal and type    alsamixer   and hit enter.
[21:57] <Polah> suigeneris: Back up your MBR first:     dd -if=/dev/sdX of=mbrbackup bs=512 count=1, which will write the contents of your MBR to mbrbackup, bootloader and partition table. dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sdX bs=446 count=1 should remove the bootloader but leave your partition table intact.
[21:57] <usr13> user: See my pm
[21:57] <user> alsamixer: Yes a graph table opens
[21:57] <usr13> !pulsaudio
[21:57] <Hot> xanScale, try on #ac100
[21:58] <g0th>  I have a benq 3d monitor that should support 120Hz at 1920x1080, it just shows up to 60 Hz though, 120 Hz shows up for lower resolutions. Any ideas why?
[21:58] <user> usr13: Yes I'm using pulsaudio as default
[21:59] <jkarahalis> Persistent USB: If I install a "Persistent USB" copy of Ubuntu, will I be able to save files on the USB?
[21:59] <suigeneris> brb
[21:59] <jkarahalis> And otherwise use the USB stick as a normal operating system?
[21:59] <slakcphil> g0th, my guess would be the video driver... have you tried `xrandr -s 1920x1080 -r 120.0` ?
[22:00] <user> alsamixer: Somewhere something got mixed up between the two. Is their a way I can set all sound settings to default?
[22:00] <xanScale> Hot im here and there :D
[22:00] <myk_robinson> I need a little help identifying an apt update error.  W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net///ubuntu/dists/natty/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found    Is this one of the official repositories or something I may have added?
[22:00] <GreekFreak> Hello. Can anyone here help with 5.1 sound? #alsa and #pulseaudio seem to be pretty dead :P
[22:01] <user> GreekFreak: same here...sound problems
[22:01] <g0th> jonas@tardis:~/Documents$ xrandr -s 1920x1080 -r 120.0
[22:01] <g0th> Rate 120.0 Hz not available for this size
[22:02] <user> GreekFreak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[22:02] <slakcphil> yeah that probably means the video card or driver
[22:02] <slakcphil> g0th
[22:02] <slakcphil> br
[22:02] <slakcphil> b
[22:02] <Hot> XanScale ;)
[22:03] <user> GreekFreak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound
[22:03] <lockersnatch> hey guys, wanting to start a small consulting firm and am in need of FOSS for billing purposes, scheduling/appointments, contacts, generation of custom reports and timekeeping, any suggestions?  So far through the Ubuntu software center i see the GnoTime Tracking Tool, but it's not an all-in-one solution.  Do you think I am asking too much of FOSS?
[22:03] <GreekFreak> user: thanks. I've checked the first one out. Not the second though. I'm trying to see if anyone can suggest a fix before I go removing and reinstatlling everything
[22:04] <lockersnatch> (as far as looking for an all-in-one solution)
[22:04] <user> GreekFreak: Do you know a way to set all sound settings to default?
[22:05] <Viking667> 'llo. Two reasonably similar Ubuntu Nattys, yet one informs me of updates in the gnome panel, the other doesn't. What am I missing in the second? I've checked that the notifier is installed, and it appears to be.
[22:05] <GreekFreak> user: other than undoing all the changes I've made, no.
[22:08] <Polah> lockersnatch: Are there non-free programs that combine scheduling/contacts/organiser-type stuff with billing functions? It seems strange they would be together.
[22:09] <GunClive> is it possible to set hotkeys for any program and its own functions you like? thanks
[22:09] <lockersnatch> Polah, yes, there are, but cost mucho dinero
[22:10] <Polah> lockersnatch: Hmm, if it costs a lot then I guess they're specially developed for professional applications. I think it'd be unlikely for you to find an AIO free solution.
[22:10] <lockersnatch> I would be surprised if there were free programs to do such things, just checking to make sure I wasn't having one of those "doh!" moments :)
[22:11] <lockersnatch> Polah, thanks for the response, I must run off now.  Have a good night!
[22:11] <GreekFreak> Could someone explain the difference between Alsa, Pulseaudio and OSS (which I read now is deprecated)
[22:12] <user> GreekFreak: What soundcard do you have?
[22:12] <GreekFreak> HDA Intel
[22:12] <user> GreekFreak: On board?
[22:13] <user> GreekFreak: Channels?
[22:13] <GreekFreak> user: with the Realtek driver on Windows it works like I want it....
[22:13] <Slart> GreekFreak: Alsa and OSS both handle the hardware and lets you use it to play sound.. pulseaudio is a system above this.. it lets you mix sounds and move sounds between different soundcards.. it uses alsa to do the actual sound playing
[22:13] <Yotta> Hey guys, can someone tell me if Ubuntu live cd has error checking for a ntfs harddrive? My windows drive won't boot
[22:14] <Slart> Yotta: perhaps there's error checking but there's no error fixing utility
[22:14] <GreekFreak> user: Board - Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7 --- 6 channels
[22:14] <Polah> GreekFreak: ALSA and OSS are parts of the kernel that allow interfacing between hardware and the system. Pulseaudio is a software-level sound server that does handles I/O
[22:14] <yeats> Yotta: it doesn't - you'd need a windows disk
[22:14] <Polah> Yotta: Windows is better for NTFS tools
[22:14] <Yotta> Polah, my windows c:\ drive has been corrupted
[22:14] <user> GreekFreak: What have you tried thus far?
[22:14] <Yotta> So I can't boot into windows even with a cd
[22:15] <GreekFreak> Slart & Polah: Thank you... Thank actually clears things up
[22:15] <Yotta> I can't format with gparted either, it says input/output error
[22:15] <yeats> Yotta: however, you may be able to rescue data with an Ubuntu live CD, depending on the problem
[22:15] <CoverSlide> use systemrescuedisk to recover bad harddrive
[22:15] <Slart> Yotta: boot from the windows install cd.. there should be some kind of system repair option
[22:15] <Polah> Yotta: You could put the drive in another computer running Windows and attempt to fix it on there
[22:15] <Slart> Yotta: but this is better done in ##windows or something
[22:15] <yeats> Yotta: ah.. then that won't work either then :-/
[22:16] <PhoenixSTF> Yotta, try fsck.ntfs
[22:16] <GreekFreak> user: changed my alsa-base.conf to include 6stack, and changed the daemon.conf "enable-lfe-remixing = yes" and "default-sample-channels = 6"
[22:16] <Yotta> PhoenixSTF: fsck.ntfs in terminal? What do I type?
[22:16] <GreekFreak> then when I do pulseaudio killall it restarts it as I want it (I think)
[22:16] <yeats> Yotta: have you booted into a live Ubuntu?
[22:16] <Viking667> sigh. No answers to my question then?
[22:16] <Polah> GreekFreak: Ah, you're that guy. Did you get no answers in the pulse channel?
[22:16] <Yotta> Yep, I am in it now
[22:16] <Polah> Viking667, what is your question?
[22:16] <PhoenixSTF> Yotta, fsck.ntfs /dev/sd* witch ever is your windows part
[22:17] <user> GreekFreak: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/03/how-to-switch-to-alsa-or-oss-instead-of.html
[22:17] <GreekFreak> Polah: yes :P It seems dead. Noone's replying to anyone's question
[22:17] <yeats> Viking667: you can force a check of new packages with Synaptic or apt-get
[22:17] <g0th> slakcphil: I am still waiting
[22:17] <yeats> Viking667: it's nothing to worry about though as long as both systems are running ok
[22:18] <Viking667> yeats: yes, I understand that, but my wife would like to see the pretty arrow letting her know she has packages to install. She doesn't get that arrow, though I do.
[22:18] <nekkid> hmph.. is there a way to make a hotkey that would toggle my mouse to be left/right - handed?
[22:18] <PhoenixSTF> Yotta, never mind m8 it seems that pacakage aint on ubuntu anymore
[22:18] <Yotta> yeah
[22:18] <Viking667> Guest40316: could be. It's mainly a tweak on xmodmap
[22:18] <Yotta> Do you want to see the error gparted gives me? PhoenixSTF?
[22:18] <Viking667> i.e. bind a key-combo to a function in bash, perhaps.
[22:18] <istrategy> Can Ubuntu be installed on quad core machine
[22:18] <yeats> Viking667: you've ensured that the update manager settings are the way you want them?
[22:18] <istrategy> es
[22:19] <yeats> istrategy: yes
[22:19] <Viking667> yeats: seem to be, yes. "Download all packages"
[22:19] <Polah> Viking667: My system opens up the Update Manager whenever it finds new packages to install. I believe it can be configured how often it checks.
[22:19] <PhoenixSTF> Yotta, it says it doenst have the pakage
[22:19] <Yotta> yeah, I mean what gparted says when I try to reformat the drive to ntfs
[22:19] <GunClive> isbric, i am running amd quad core
[22:19] <Guest40316> viking667: cool .. that narrows it down some. lemme see what I can find -- thankyou!
[22:19] <Viking667> Polah: heh. On my wife's system, it checks but doesn't notify. even though it's set to daily.
[22:19] <Yotta> Before even doing that it has a ! next to it  saying error(5)
[22:19] <istrategy> Must I use the 64 bit version?
[22:19] <Polah> Viking667: Is the "Don't download but notify" button checked?
[22:20] <Yotta> "Unable to read contents of this file system!"
[22:20] <yeats> istrategy: not a must, but probably desirable
[22:20] <usr13> user: Did you solve your sound problem yet?
[22:20] <Yotta> and a bunch of other stuff
[22:20] <GreekFreak> user: what is GStreamer. I don't even know if I'm using it since this article is for conflicts with that
[22:20] <Viking667> Guest40316: xmodmap -e "pointer = 3 2 1 4 5 6 7 ..." asa clue.
[22:20] <Polah> Viking667, "only notify about updates" I mean
[22:20] <Polah> !gstreamer | GreekFreak
[22:20] <Viking667> Polah: hang on, I'll have to check again. And no, I don't see that.
[22:20] <g0th>  I have a benq 3d monitor that should support 120Hz at 1920x1080, it just shows up to 60 Hz though, 120 Hz shows up for lower resolutions. Any ideas why?
[22:20] <user> GreekFreak: Codecs to play audio
[22:20] <Polah> Viking667: Update Manager > Settings > Updates tab?
[22:20] <yeats> Yotta: sounds like a hardware problem - but try a windows disk before giving up
[22:20] <Yotta> I tried to zero the HDD with the dd command, but I don't think it went through. I can try it again if you think it's better to do it in ubuntu live disc (I tried in gparted before)
[22:21] <GreekFreak> user: thank you
[22:21] <Polah> GreekFreak, user: video too
[22:21] <istrategy> tx yeats
[22:21] <yeats> istrategy: sure - good luck
[22:21] <Viking667> I've got "CHeck for updates ... Daily". Only Notify is set to 0 (unchecked)
[22:21] <Yotta> yeats: Windows disc boots drivers from the drive you have windows installed to, and those drivers are the problems, so it doesn't start
[22:21] <Polah> Yotta: Run a SMART test through Disk Utility
[22:21] <user> GreekFreak: What Ubuntu verion do you have?
[22:21] <nick__________> if my boot drive is /dev/sdc  and the main partition is on sdc1, what should the line in fstab look like?
[22:21] <Polah> Viking667, so check that and it should open up the Update Manager when it finds updates and ask you to install them.
[22:21] <GreekFreak> So am I supposed to install them (I'm sorry for all these questions guys, but sounf has very sparse info)
[22:21] <GreekFreak> user: 11.04
[22:22] <Viking667> huh? CHECK it?
[22:22] <lyn> If I install a custom kernel on my computer to fix issues with my laptop keyboard (Asus ... and the fix worked) ... but then THAT breaks my ability to connect my Bluetooth mouse .... what should I do to fix the Bluetooth issue?
[22:22] <Viking667> to me, that means. "Notify me but don't download"
[22:22] <Yotta> Polah: short, extended, or the other one?
[22:22] <Guest40316> viking667: cool found some links talking about using the xmodmap command in a terminal .. how would I go about making a hotkey that would run that command for me?
[22:22] <Viking667> My system notifies me AND downloads them.
[22:22] <Yotta> conveyance
[22:22] <user> GreekFreak: Do you have Medibuntu repo?
[22:22] <Guest40316> viking667: using 11.04 - unity
[22:22] <Polah> nick__________, /dev/sda1 /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1      although I've use the UUID instead of /dev/sda1
[22:22] <Viking667> Guest40316: check out Keybindings in your command centre.
[22:22] <PhoenixSTF> Yotta, try sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs and then sudo ntfsfix /dev/sda3
[22:23] <PhoenixSTF> Yotta, dont know if it is going to work
[22:23] <Polah> Yotta: Short should be fine, it's only to see if there's problems with I/O as you seem to get from gparted
[22:23] <GreekFreak> user: I'm embarassed to say that I have no idea what you said
[22:23] <Viking667> Guest40316: hang on, I'll go pull up the item
[22:23] <Yotta> Clicking short didn't do anything but it says Overall assessment: healthy
[22:23] <nick__________> polah, is there a way to verifiy the uuid other than in fstab? i'm having trouble booting so I've mounted it in liveCD to check
[22:23] <user> GreekFreak: Is that a new installation which you have?
[22:23] <Polah> GreekFreak, "Only Notify..." doesn't download. It notifies you and asks if you want to download and install them.
[22:23] <Yotta> Refresh says error reading SMART data: Daemon is inhibited
[22:23] <Polah> nick__________, sudo blkid
[22:23] <GreekFreak> user: about 2 weeks old :P
[22:24] <nick__________> thanks polah,
[22:24] <user> GreekFreak: Did you have any audio since?
[22:24] <new001> Could anyone tell me how I can pass a specific class attribute to a function like in this function? http://paste.pound-python.org/show/11608/ I am getting an error when doing it this way (notice line 7 where I am trying to use 'attr'))
[22:24] <Polah> Yotta: Do you have any other operations running on the disk. Unmount it, remount it and then try the test
[22:24] <GreekFreak> Polah: thanks, I'll check in synaptic
[22:24] <GreekFreak> user: yes I have, but not like I want it
[22:24] <Yotta> Can't mount it, says Daemon is inhibited
[22:24] <Polah> new001, ask in #python
[22:25] <Yotta> Can't mount the other drives I have either even though I am pretty sure they are fine (I hope so)
[22:25] <GreekFreak> user: and I have no control as to when I have 5 speakers or just the centre or woofer
[22:25] <lyn> If I install a custom kernel on my computer to fix issues with my laptop keyboard (Asus ... and the fix worked) ... but then THAT breaks my ability to connect my Bluetooth mouse .... what should I do to fix the Bluetooth issue?
[22:25] <Guest40316> viking667: cool thx!
[22:25] <lyn> oops ... up and enter are just too close on this keyboard
[22:25] <Yotta> Keeps saying Daemon is inhibited
[22:25] <Viking667> Guest40316: the way I did it was to create a new shortcut in Keyboard Shortcuts, (you'll possibly need two) and bind a key to that.
[22:25] <Polah> lyn: Install bluetooth modules for your mouse?
[22:25] <new001> polah: doh, thought that was where i was, hahaha
[22:26] <lyn> Polah, how and where?
[22:26] <Viking667> i.e. here, I did "Add", called it "Switch Mouse Buttons", put in: xmodmap -e "pointer = ...", and bound that to Ctl-Alt-8
[22:26] <GreekFreak> Polah: Medibuntu is not in synaptic, and their site says something about legal rights. What is the right way of installing it?
[22:26] <user> GreekFreak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SurroundSound Maybe this could help
[22:26] <g0th>  I have a benq 3d monitor that should support 120Hz at 1920x1080, it just shows up to 60 Hz though, 120 Hz shows up for lower resolutions. Any ideas why?
[22:26] <Guest40316> viking667: that's exactally what I was thinking .. thanks a bunch viking.  really.  I try to learn something every day!!
[22:27] <Viking667> for you you'd possibly ALSO add Another one to "Reset mouse buttons", then xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 ..."
[22:27] <Polah> GreekFreak, Medibuntu is a distribution of Ubuntu...
[22:27] <nick__________> is there a recovery mode from live cd? or a way to reinstall grub? or should i do a clean install?
[22:27] <Ronnie> im testing 11.10 and now my system (quit) menu is not in the panel anymore. does someone know how to put it back?
[22:27] <Viking667> and bind that to another key. You're stuck using two keys, but hey.
[22:27] <celltech> my VirtualBox is F'ed
[22:27] <Polah> GreekFreak, it comes with a handful of proprietary packages that isn't in the normal distributions
[22:27] <Guest40316> ya .. figured I use one shortcut to make my mouse a lefty, and a shortcut to make it righty.
[22:27] <Viking667> unless you build a toggle shell script that'd need to know which way around your buttons were to begin with.
[22:27] <Polah> nick__________, grub-install from a LiveCD
[22:27] <GreekFreak> Polah: My bad. I thought it was a package of entertainement software
[22:28] <Guest40316> viking667: ya .. I might get that brave once I get a few beers in me. lol
[22:28] <Polah> GreekFreak, you could probably add the packages that are in Medibuntu, but I couldn't tell you what they all are
[22:28] <Guest40316> thanks again.
[22:28] <Viking667> Guest40316: cool. Sounds like I'ev sort of sorted your problem then. By the awy, get your nick registered.
[22:28] <Guest40316> =P
[22:28] <Viking667> and no, don't do it when you're plonked. You won't remember the keys when you're sober.
[22:28] <Guest40316> keep FOSS cool!
[22:28] <Viking667> bah.
[22:28] <GreekFreak> Polah: thanks. I'll try this way first ;p
[22:29] <Viking667> meanwhile, I lost track of where we were with my notification issue.
[22:29] <nick__________> if my computer is booting to initramfs will reinstalling grub fix that? or is that unrelated
[22:29] <Viking667> unrelated
[22:29] <yeats> !medibuntu | GreekFreak
[22:29] <celltech> Who wants ta help
[22:29] <yeats> Polah: Medibuntu is a repo, not a distro ;-)
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> celltech: details please
[22:30] <Yotta> I'm going to restart
[22:30] <lyn> Polah: where might I find a bluetooth module for my microsoft mouse that I can install ... and instructions on how to install it ... no success yet googling
[22:30] <Viking667> celltech: hm? We can't read your mind. Spet et awt, dewd.
[22:30] <celltech> When I connect my Vbox. It shows my mouse, and my iphone. but there's an "Unknown device" which I think would be my usb wifi antenna
[22:30] <user> GreekFreak: I think that link I send you will solve your problem if your sound is working but not for surround
[22:30] <Polah> yeats: My bad :/ GreekFreak: You'd have to add the repo and install the packages then
[22:30] <celltech> However. when I sign on to it. The Right CTRL doesn't work and I lose all use of my mouse
[22:30] <Viking667> "sign on to it"?
[22:31] <user> GreekFreak:: I mean for surround
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> celltech: what OS is the guest? what OS is the host?
[22:31] <Polah> lyn: Search for a linux driver for your mouse model, perhaps. Or you could use ndiswrapper with a Windows (XP, I believe) driver
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> celltech: what version of Vbox is it?
[22:31] <Viking667> by VBox, do you men "VirtualBox"?
[22:31] <celltech> Guest: XP PRO, Host: Ubuntu 11.04
[22:31] <GreekFreak> thanks all re Medibuntu. user: I'm checking it out now
[22:31] <celltech> 4.2
[22:32] <mouse> I accidentally deleted xorg.conf and I've managed to remake most of it but now I can't get the right resolution set or even one that's high enough.  Does anyone have any suggestions?  I'm using a nvidia geforce 9600 gt.
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> celltech: have you installed the guest additions?
[22:32] <GreekFreak> yeats: I'm new to irc, what is the "!" you put in front of the word and before piping my name?
[22:32] <celltech> I did a direct instal. If I need more what's the sudo?
[22:32] <rww> GreekFreak: messages beginning with ! are instructions to ubottu, our factbot
[22:32] <Polah> GreekFreak, it's to label ubottu instructions
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> celltech: it in the top menu in the running virtualbox, windows doesnt use sudo
[22:33] <GreekFreak> thank you. :)
[22:33] <celltech> Opening the VBox
[22:33] <celltech> Now where
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> celltech: use the menus at the top.  Instead of asking why not RESEARCH based on the direction I have given....
[22:34] <celltech> Cause most tutorials i've read steer way off the topic before they come back to the point
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> celltech: you'll see, i've given you a new term you haven't searched for
[22:35] <celltech> I should just do a dual boot complete. this Vmachines suck
[22:35] <celltech> Thanks though. ttyl :)
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> some people need to learn to research for themselves, they might just suprise themselves
[22:38] <joserramon> why is there nobody talking here ??!!
[22:39] <mouse> Is there a way to force a resolution?
[22:39] <iceflatline> We're all listening instead.
[22:39] <Polah> joserramon, ssshhh, the children are sleeping!
[22:39] <Viking667> WHAT??
[22:39] <Viking667> THE CHILDREN AR...oh.
[22:39] <joserramon> listening what ??
[22:40] <iceflatline> shhh...
[22:40] <Viking667> now. This might sound rather obvious, but where do i find a "checklist" of what got installed onto my panel(s)?
[22:40] <joserramon> what country are you two from ??
[22:40] <Viking667> I remember seeing it somewhere.
[22:41] <AllOfMe> is there a way i can set desktop icons to sort on the right side of my screen like in mac os?
[22:41] <Viking667> I'm from New Zealand. You know? THe one that's gonna win the rugby world cup again.
[22:41] <Viking667> ... and it's 10:41 am
[22:42] <joserramon> I know where New Zealand is, but I don't watch sportds, not even soccer.
[22:42] <japro> hmm, anyone experience with desktop streaming? i'm toying around with ffmpeg and it kinda works but i can't get beyound 12fps
[22:42] <AllOfMe> ?
[22:43] <yeats> AllOfMe: using Unity?  not in this release
[22:43] <japro> apparently its nut cpu power since the cpu isnt maxed and i get the same 12fps for all sorts of output resolutions up to 1080p
[22:43] <GreekFreak> ok, so I read these links and helps, and they all talk about changing the 5.1 output to something else because "5.1 should be configured by itself"... Go figure
[22:43] <joserramon> I don't use Unity, sorry:(
[22:43] <AllOfMe> yeats, no still using maverick
[22:43] <japro> can xgrab be the bottelneck?
[22:44] <juso> ubuntu needs to step their game up - its just unusable for me... wtf
[22:45] <joserramon> juso, just use the terminal
[22:45] <yeats> juso: got a question?
[22:45] <Polah> japro: Something is limiting the FPS if you can't get it above 12 regardless of settings
[22:45] <juso> yeats, no I was ranting. its over.
[22:46] <t1m310rd> how do i change the boot screen?
[22:47] <user> I don't have sound on youtube but can play mp3? Can someoe help?
[22:47] <japro> Polah, yeah, i'm trying to figure out what it is and don't really know how to figure that out
[22:47] <joserramon> changing the boot screen is not so difficult, I think.
[22:48] <Polah> japro: Could be the display on the receiver, could be the streaming program, could be due to limited bandwidth
[22:49] <Book_em_Dano> I have the root and the home directories on two different partitions, is it possible to reinstall (X)Ubuntu on the root directory w/o overwriting the home directory?
[22:49] <joserramon> Polah is always right:)
[22:49] <juso> So from a general ubuntu user stand point, how many of you have osx/windows machines as well?
[22:49] <rypervenche> juso: I'm sure most people have a windows machine or partition as well.
[22:50] <GreekFreak> t1m31l0rd: http://techtimely.wordpress.com/2011/06/21/ubuntu-11-04-simple-tip-to-change-boot-screen-image/
[22:50] <juso> rypervenche, ok thats making sense, because as a sole OS, I wouldn't be able to use ubuntu, at all.
[22:50] <daviddoria> how can I tell which video card I have and which driver I am using?
[22:50] <Polah> Book_em_Dano: Don't mount the /home/ partition until after installing
[22:50] <joserramon> Myself I have a Windows machine (my father's), not a partition.
[22:51] <Polah> daviddoria: lspci | grep VGA should show you your GPU
[22:51] <slide> The stupid Unity Bar is stuck open on my computer. How do I fix it without restarting?
[22:51] <user> juso: I think I'll have a Windows machine very soon if Ubuntu stops giving me problems
[22:51] <japro> display on the receiver?
[22:51] <Polah> user: What problems
[22:51] <Polah> japro: Yes, the receiving machines display settings may limit it to 12FPS
[22:52] <japro> bandwith is nowhere near maxed out... it uses about 200kbit out of my 7mbit upstream
[22:52] <user> juso: My sound works fine for a couple hours then it just stops
[22:52] <daviddoria> Polah, yep, thanks. And the driver that is currently being used?
[22:52] <t1m310rd> can you get other sound in browser?
[22:52] <rypervenche> juso: It depends on what you want out of your operating system. I only use Linux. THe only time I ever get on WIndows is for a video games...but I haven't had the need to do that in......a very long time.
[22:52] <slide> how do I restart unity?
[22:52] <japro> hmm, thos 12fps is what ffmpeg displays on the encoding machine
[22:52] <myk_robinson> need some help with a make error
[22:52] <AllOfMe> docky tells me i need to enable compositing... what is that? where do I enable it?
[22:53] <user> juso: When I try a test then "sound" bombs out. I have to restart again
[22:53] <t1m310rd> kill xorg, brings you to login. drop to tty as root to do this.
[22:53] <joserramon> a make error!! That sound a bit hard.
[22:53] <t1m310rd> make sure you close everything first
[22:53] <myk_robinson> joserramon: http://pastebin.com/E0FVt2Yn
[22:53] <juso> Running ubuntu as a sole operating system to me, is a complete joke. I run it along side an OS that gets things done, that I need done.
[22:53] <AllOfMe> anyone?
[22:54] <myk_robinson> got build-essential installed, trying to figure if this error is due to a dependency or just a bad download
[22:54] <jrib> juso: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[22:54] <myk_robinson> trying to build compat-wireless for my Intel Centrino N card
[22:54] <rypervenche> juso: It is subjective. For me the OS that gets things that need to be done done, is Linux. :)
[22:55] <Polah> daviddoria: I don't know, sorry.
[22:55] <juso> jrib: ....
[22:55] <t1m310rd> true. i only run windows because wine is not to the point where expression studio and visual studio can run
[22:56] <jrib> juso: this channel is solely for ubuntu support topics.  If you want to chat about how people use their computers, please use #ubuntu-offtopic.  Thanks
[22:56] <rypervenche> jrib: Sorry. I won't continue with that topic.
[22:56] <t1m310rd> yeah.
[22:56] <juso> jrib, i asked questions all day, I made one comment on a topic.
[22:57] <joserramon> myk_robinson, I don't have time now, sorry.
[22:58] <t1m310rd> whenever i try to use just an hdtv for my monitor (regardless of whether i use hdmi or regular monitor cable) it always show 1366x768 resolution
[22:58] <juso> there is a ubuntu general chat channel on here?
[22:59] <jrib> juso: yes, #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:00] <daviddoria> Polah, ok thanks
[23:00] <urlin2u> AllOfMe, do you have the compiz config manager instaled there is a composite plugin there.
[23:00] <juso> jrib: ok i will be watching for anything you say in here, it better be on topic 100% of the time, i will report you
[23:00] <t1m310rd> i turn off laptop monitor from monitors program and close lid, but after that it completely fails to work really at all.
[23:01] <t1m310rd> shows in 1080p in tty mode though.
[23:01] <Polah> Juso: There is no need to act like that.
[23:01] <omicron_> buenas
[23:01] <Polah> t1m310rd: Sounds like an issue with X server in that case.
[23:02] <t1m310rd> i guessed so, but no matter what i try, it won't fix
[23:02] <t1m310rd> also can't change laptop screen brightness
[23:03] <t1m310rd> don't know if that really has anything to do with it, but there it is.
[23:03] <ranjan> Hi all, i have a HP dv4 and in windows the battery life i am getting upto 4 hours but in ubuntu its just 2 hour. Hear about some power regression or something . any workarorund??
[23:03] <urlin2u> t1m310rd, on the monitor or laptop, brightness?
[23:04] <t1m310rd> laptop
[23:04] <Polah> t1m310rd: I guess it's applying the resolution settings for your laptop monitor to you TV. You'd need to reconfigure X for your TV
[23:04] <t1m310rd> brightness controlled by tv.
[23:04] <t1m310rd> i think
[23:04] <t1m310rd> yeah.
[23:04] <cecil> ?
[23:04] <t1m310rd> how do i do that.
[23:04] <urlin2u> t1m310rd, power manager has a slider, and fn and the arrow keys usually work, itf you have not tried this already
[23:05] <t1m310rd> for me it's fn f11-12.
[23:05] <t1m310rd> but that doesn't work
[23:10] <GreekFreak> Post #6 in this link is the only one that seems to work (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1640574) Although I have to "killall before I watch. At least I don't have to reboot into Windows
[23:11] <bluebomber> Hi there. I'm having trouble connecting via SSH to a server in nautilus. I can do it fine from a terminal, but when I do FILE > CONNECT TO SERVER in nautilus, it always refuses my connection.
Why does 5.1 never work? I had trouble with it even when I installed 8.04 back in the day</rant>
[23:11] <GreekFreak> sorry, for that, I've been battling with this for over 2 weeks
[23:11] <SIFTU> ranjan: what CPU?
[23:12] <cpt_explodo> hey folks. I need to resize one of my paritions taking some space from ubuntu and giving some to windows. But i don't have enough media to back up my data. What are the odds I'll get data loss and should I defrag all the partitions before i do this operation?
[23:12] <Polah> cp_explodo: Resizing partitions shouldn't cause any loss of data, do it through gparted on a LiveCD.
[23:12] <bluebomber> You should have a separate backup, cpt_explodo, even before attempting defragging or partition resizing!
[23:12] <cpt_explodo> awesome
[23:13] <cpt_explodo> bluebomber I dont have enough media to back up my data :x
[23:13] <SIFTU> cpt_explodo: yeah I would still backup at least your critical things
[23:13] <p3rsist> Hi guys. Im on lucid. Whats the best way to download an Oneiric Ocelot package with apt-get ? How can I update the sources list only to get a specific package?
[23:13] <GreekFreak> user, Polah and guys: thanks for all your help!
[23:13] <SIFTU> cpt_explodo: then you do run a risk of losing it
[23:13] <cpt_explodo> :x
[23:13] <Polah> cpt_explodo, I'd back up important data anyway just in case. Perhaps move important files to the Windows partition, resize the Ubuntu partition then move the data back before resizing the windows partition?
[23:13] <cellardoor> Can anyone tell me the best tweet-reading client on Ubuntu?
[23:14] <Blacksyke> cellardoor: how about the installed-by-default Gwibber?
[23:15] <myk_robinson> anyone able to locate a Linux 3.0 pae kernel for Natty
[23:15] <cellardoor> Blacksyke, ahh there we go, I thought Ubuntu came with something :)
[23:16] <Blacksyke> cellardoor: it sure does. Set it up in the Broadcast Accounts settings page
[23:16] <cellardoor> Blacksyke, have done so :)
[23:17] <Book_em_Dano> f I installed Ubuntu on the first partition as root, won't it
[23:20] <bluebomber> Hi there. I'm having trouble connecting via SSH to a server in nautilus. I can do it fine from a terminal, but when I do FILE > CONNECT TO SERVER in nautilus, it always refuses my connection.
[23:20] <Book_em_Dano> if I install Ubuntu on the first partition as root, everything will be installed on that first partition (root, /usr, /home, etc) & than mount /home from the 2nd partition, what will happen to the newly created /home on the 1st partition?
[23:21] <Polah> Book_em_Dano: I think you'd have to remove it first.
[23:23] <neo-Leviathan> hallo @all
[23:23] <yeats> Book_em_Dano: if you tell the Ubuntu installer to use a partition as / and another partition as /home, it will work as expected
[23:25] <Book_em_Dano> if I specify the respective partitions as mount points, will anything be overwritten?  I don't want /home to be overwritten.
[23:26] <Book_em_Dano> Or I don't want the 2nd partition w/ /home to be overwritten
[23:26] <yeats> Book_em_Dano: just keep "Format partition" unchecked
[23:26] <yeats> Book_em_Dano: it will retain your data
[23:28] <Book_em_Dano> I'm going to upgrade from a unsupported release to Lucid or Natty, won't there be some hidden files and/or directories that need to be updated/upgraded as well?
[23:29] <yeats> Book_em_Dano: you can delete the .gnome2 and/or .gconf directories if the settings are messed up
[23:31] <Book_em_Dano> Are those the only files/directories that will need to be updated in /home?
[23:32] <ZAHER> I don't find the file /etc/inittab in 11.04. where is it?
[23:33] <Guest80419> hey everyone, how may i make some changes on lunch bar on the left side?
[23:34] <Polah> Guest80419: Getting bored of the food served? :P What kind of changes?
[23:34] <Book_em_Dano> Maybe I could copy the newer files/directories from the 1st partition to /home on the 2nd partition and then mount the 2nd partition as /home?
[23:35] <Guest80419> Polah, :) like I start menu there are Internet Apps, Media Apps, May i add my own named something and put my likely apps in it ?
[23:36] <Polah> Guest80419: I don't think so. You can add launchers by right clicking the icons for open programs and selecting "Keep as launcher" or something along those lines, but I don't know about making openable categories
[23:36] <Polah> Guest80419: GNOME's application menu has categories like that but I don't know about Unity
[23:39] <RedNifre> wow, it's crowded in here!
[23:40] <rosko> join #drupal
[23:46] <poikges> hi,all
[23:46] <poikges> How to install Steam for  mac on Linux
[23:46] <poikges> thanks
[23:46] <Polah> poikges: You can install Steam for Windows on Linux through wine
[23:48] <poikges> But the mac os using opengl
[23:48] <zombuntu> can i run my ubuntu desktop from home behind a router with NAT open?
[23:48] <Willie_Demon> New York
[23:49] <zombuntu> as a server for ssh atc...
[23:49] <Willie_Demon> New York....the city that never sleeps
[23:49] <Polah> poikges: What do you mean? Steam for Windows displays fine through Steam
[23:49] <Polah> zombuntu: You'd need to forward the port your SSH server is listening on
[23:51] <droptimize> can i run my ubuntu desktop as a ssh server from behind a router? with NAT open?
[23:51] <Tealc> bonsoir
[23:52] <TFGBD_> Are there any ubuntu based distros or forks for MIPS out there?
[23:52] <ZAHER> I don't find the file /etc/inittab in 11.04. where is it?
[23:53] <itaylor57> !upstart | ZAHER
[23:53] <exutux> ZAHER: I think that inittab doesn't exist from 8.04 ubuntu release, it uses upstart instead of
[23:55] <ryanf> has anyone had an issue where you had a full drive and df -h didn't update after you freed a bunch of space up?
[23:55] <ryanf> in this case, not only has df -h not updated, I also can't write to the drive particularly
[23:56] <ryanf> "no space left on device"
[23:56] <ryanf> I know there is some reserved space that isn't reflected in df -h, but the file I just delete was taking up a third of the drive
[23:56] <ryanf> *deleted
[23:57] <exutux> ryanf: how do you have deleted the stuffs?
[23:58] <exutux> if you have deleted from GUI maybe you have some .Trash inside the device
[23:58] <shadows090> Is there any faster way to share files than using a crossover cable and using scp? is there a faster protocol?
[23:58] <ryanf> no, I just used sudo rm
[23:59] <exutux> ryanf: so tryed to umount it and remount?
[23:59] <Polah> shadows090: If you're doing it locally using an unencrypted protocol should be quicker
[23:59] <shadows090> Polah, alright, just ftp or something then?
[23:59] <ryanf> exutux: it's the root device, can you even do that?
[23:59] <ryanf> but even if you could, I can't