[00:10] <holstein> this came in on the xubuntu list
[00:10] <holstein> I'm an avid user of Ubuntu Studio, however customized to run with Xubuntu desktop.
[00:10] <holstein> Is there a xubuntu-studio in the works?  I'd be very interested in this, including participating the packaging, developement, and testing.  I already have a working prototype :P
[00:12] <ScottL> yay!  send him an email to join the channel :)
[00:16] <holstein> ScottL: i replied... we'll see
[00:23] <ailo> holstein, I hear it's becoming windy around your parts
[00:23] <holstein> ailo: nah
[00:23] <holstein> not yet
[00:24] <holstein> im really far from the coast though
[00:24] <holstein> like 9 hours from there by car
[00:24] <ailo> Just read about this girl Irene on the news
[01:32] <ScottL> i really hope we get an image to test tomorrow
[02:14] <falktx_> I'm all about to create a new ubuntu bug -> "Unity is too buggy to use"
[02:14] <falktx_> :)
[02:15] <falktx_> but I guess I should wait for final release, then report that bug
[02:15] <falktx_> ScottL: hey there, I'm planning to do something you might be interested/happy with
[02:16] <ScottL> falktx_, what is that?
[02:16] <holstein> lol
[02:16] <falktx_> to make it easy to users to use linux, I want to create a full from-install->full-setup tutorial series
[02:16] <ScottL> falktx_, yes, i do like that :)
[02:17] <falktx_> I will first document what distro to use, etc, and I would really like to recommend 11.10 US for the install
[02:17]  * falktx_ hopes UbuntuStudio succeeds to have a Oneiric ISO
[02:17] <falktx_> basically, users should install US 11.10, add the selected repos, and make a few tweaks
[02:18] <falktx_> ScottL: I just want to say that I really want to see US coming on time for Oneiric
[02:18] <falktx_> kde, unity and gnome are failing for musicians
[02:18] <falktx_> and Xubuntu brings too much unnedded stuff
[02:19] <falktx_> so, UbuntuStudio seems the best choice possible
[02:19] <falktx_> (or a custom net-install +install-what-you-want, like Arch does)
[02:20] <falktx_> ScottL: are you ok with me recommending US +KXStudio stuff, right?
[02:23] <falktx_> wow, someone is uploading to my PPAs, someone that are not part of the team!
[02:23] <falktx_> wtf? launchpad bugs???
[02:23] <falktx_> here - https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/hydrogen/
[02:24] <falktx_> ^ that ppa has only hydrogen inside, but somehow other people uploaded new packages, people that are not in the kx-team
[02:24]  * falktx_ reports bug
[02:25] <falktx_> holstein: did you ever saw anything like this ^?
[02:26] <holstein> falktx_: whats the deal?
[02:26] <falktx_> holstein: check the page, https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/hydrogen
[02:26] <holstein> thats not you?
[02:26] <falktx_> holstein: do you see 'luminance' in there? 
[02:26] <holstein> you didnt upload 4 minutes ago?
[02:27] <holstein> falktx_: i dont see luminance
[02:27] <falktx_> holstein: please check this link
[02:27] <falktx_> https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/hydrogen/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=
[02:29] <falktx_> holstein: anything suspicious there?
[02:30] <holstein> falktx_: yeah
[02:30] <holstein> dhor uploaded
[02:30] <falktx_> ah, so you see it
[02:30] <holstein> amr
[02:30] <holstein> yeah, i see it there
[02:30] <holstein> thats odd
[02:30] <falktx_> holstein: thay ppa should only have hydrogen stuff...
[02:30] <falktx_> how did this happened?
[02:30]  * falktx_ is already in #launchpad
[02:31] <holstein> :/
[02:33] <falktx_> did someone copied them by mistake?
[02:33] <holstein> maybe
[02:33] <holstein> lets hope
[02:34] <falktx_> yes, because if not...
[02:34] <falktx_> it's a launchpad bug... it's very serious
[02:34] <falktx_> *if it's
[02:37] <falktx_> it seems to be multimedia content... maybe it was really a mistake?
[02:38] <falktx_> all uploads are copies for natty
[02:38] <falktx_> ScottL: ping
[02:38] <ScottL> falktx_, hello, yes?
[02:39]  * falktx_ repastes
[02:40] <falktx_> ScottL: are you ok with me recommending US +KXStudio stuff, right?
[02:40] <ScottL> i suppose so
[02:41] <falktx_> ScottL: please note that I don't want to stand in US way, I just wanna help
[02:42] <falktx_> since US official repos is a hard thing, kxstudio may help there
[02:42] <falktx_> plus, I can throw my own software there
[02:45] <falktx_> ScottL: if US gets an oneiric backports ppa, I'm here to help in that
[02:55] <falktx_> holstein: found it, Dick from dreamstudio copied those packages, probably by mistake
[03:01] <holstein> falktx_: OH
[03:01] <holstein> thats not so bad then
[03:02] <falktx_> yep
[03:02] <falktx_> holstein: I will have a word with him though ;)
[03:02] <holstein> hehe
[03:06] <falktx_> heh, this really scared me here
[03:07] <falktx_> hm, I never heard of him again, I wonder what happened...
[03:08] <falktx_> I know he was working on a new cinelerra skin, that would be really nice to have
[03:10] <falktx_> anyway, 4am here, time to sleep
[03:10] <falktx_> cya
[03:24] <craigs63> Good evening all.
[03:28] <holstein> craigs63: hello
[03:29] <craigs63> I'm new to the group and very rusty at IRC, other than that, rareing to go!
[03:30] <holstein> craigs63: welcome :)
[03:31] <holstein> you joined the mailing lists?
[03:31] <craigs63> yeah, the devel and the user one. I haven't yet looked at the archives.
[03:31] <holstein> craigs63: you'll catch up in here... i just wanted to make sure
[03:32] <craigs63> I have changed a couple of typos in the wiki docs, I figure that's as good as a place to start, as any. 
[04:42] <craigs63> "The Ubuntu Studio development team regularly meets on the second Sunday of every month at 17:00UTC in #ubuntu-meeting on irc.freenode.net"
[04:42] <craigs63> Is this supposed to say "first Sunday"?
[11:17] <falktx> just noticed new seed about software center removed
[11:17] <falktx> is synaptic there to replace it?
[11:17] <falktx> if not, it should be
[11:27] <falktx> astraljava: ^?
[11:28] <astraljava> falktx: Good point. Didn't think it through, I just needed to get the s-center out due to it's gnome dependencies.
[11:30] <falktx> yep, I was <not-sure-what-to-put-here> when I saw it, cause it meant US had software center
[11:31] <astraljava> falktx: Actually, it's still there.
[11:31] <astraljava> jaska@lagavulin 14:30:58 ~/src/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.oneiric$ sgrep synapt .
[11:31] <astraljava> ./desktop:85: * (synaptic)               # default GUI package manager
[11:32] <falktx> ah, nice, astraljava, I just wanted to make sure
[11:33] <falktx> synaptic is a nice tool, and a must have
[11:33] <astraljava> Nah, aptitude's way better, along with apt-[cache|file]. :D
[11:46] <falktx> astraljava: no, aptitude no longer works fine after the multilib thing
[11:46] <falktx> astraljava: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/831768
[11:46] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 831768 in aptitude (Ubuntu) "aptitude cannot handle the same packages of different architectures being installed" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[11:49] <falktx> bbl
[11:50] <astraljava> Ooohhh nnnoooooo...
[11:51] <astraljava> I better catch up with micahg for that one.
[13:23] <ckontros> Boo11
[13:23] <ckontros> !! rather
[13:23] <holstein> ckontros: o/
[13:25]  * ckontros is here to dedicate ~8hrs to tinkering. I was gonna look over the *-settings pkg and see if I can drop in our GNOME layout using XFCE. I know I /can/ do it. Just gotta see where things are at.
[13:25] <holstein> cool
[13:25] <holstein> astraljava: ping
[13:25]  * ckontros fires up VMware.
[13:25] <falktx> ckontros: using the same US gnome layout but for XFCE?
[13:26] <falktx> ie, top menu +window list ?
[13:26] <ckontros> For now, yes.
[13:28] <ckontros> Anyone know if latest Xubuntu disks are building? I figure using that would be the best was to make sure things work.
[14:19] <scott-work> co
[14:19] <scott-work> hmm, cory left
[14:19] <scott-work> hi abogani :)
[14:30] <abogani> scott-work, Hi! :-)
[15:20] <ckontros> astraljava: msg me when you're around.
[20:09] <falktx> hm, I just had a crazy idea...
[20:09] <falktx> fork unity-2d!
[20:09] <falktx> it's Qt, so I know that to do
[20:10] <falktx> and there's old code for u-remixes that can be reused
[20:10] <falktx> for me, it sounds like a cool project for after oneiric release... :)
[22:49] <ScottL> heh, i'm asking in #ubuntu-release about moving to a one year release cycle
[22:49] <ScottL> hope it goes well and my head isn't bitten off ;)
[23:01]  * astraljava is not gonna have much time until Sunday evening, so don't panic if I won't respond until. I'll read the backlog.
[23:03] <ScottL> astraljava, cory was working on the porting of our desktop to xfce and wanted you for some reason, don't know exactly
[23:06] <astraljava> Yeah, sent him an email.
[23:06] <astraljava> We could move to one year release cycle, for sure, but only after 12.04.
[23:06] <ScottL> right, that is what i said as well
[23:07] <ScottL> i haven't really received a "formal" response but there has been banter that doesn't preclude it and suggests ways for this to happen
[23:09] <astraljava> Alright. Well, I'll read the log on Sunday. Got friends over, so I'll be busy until they leave.
[23:11] <ScottL> have fun :)