| Onlyodin | libreoffice dependency issues now? | 00:07 |
|---|---|---|
| zhiwei | My problem resolved. | 00:16 |
| zhiwei | install ccms,and use the unity plugin. | 00:17 |
| min|dvir|us_ | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs_20090808ubuntu18_amd64.deb (--unpack): | 01:35 |
| min|dvir|us_ | trying to overwrite '/usr/lib32/libv4l2.so.0', which is also in package lib32v4l-0 0.8.3-2 | 01:35 |
| min|dvir|us_ | Please help. | 01:35 |
| Onlyodin | ia32-libs has been broken for me for a couple of days | 01:41 |
| Onlyodin | I believe I got lib32v4l-0 0.8.5 somewhere along the way, which in turn broke ia32-libs and wine. | 01:42 |
| Peddy | which file is responsible for the volume OSD in gnome shell? | 01:45 |
| min|dvir|us_ | Onlyodin: any fixes? | 01:47 |
| Onlyodin | min|dvir|us_, not that I'm aware of | 01:51 |
| Onlyodin | in your case you could possibly remove lib32v4l (not sure what its dependencies are though), or just wait until they release a fix. | 01:52 |
| Peddy | oh I had this problem too, I just removed ia32-libs, upgraded, then reinstalled ia32-libs (it'll remove skype, wine, etc) | 01:56 |
| Onlyodin | looks like the LibreOffice dependencies I noticed this morning are fixed now too | 01:57 |
| Onlyodin | I just successfully reinstalled ia32-libs and wine | 02:01 |
| Peddy | Onlyodin, out of interest, are you on an amd64 platform? | 02:02 |
| Peddy | are you on 64bit* | 02:03 |
| aroman1 | hi, when I try to install flashplayer I'm told i have package conflicts and i have broken packages being held. Did something break? | 02:06 |
| aroman1 | (as in something in the repos) | 02:06 |
| Onlyodin | Peddy, yes | 02:08 |
| Peddy | Onlyodin, do you mostly use unity or gnome shell? | 02:08 |
| Onlyodin | I | 02:08 |
| Onlyodin | I'm trying to stick it out with unity | 02:09 |
| Onlyodin | I don't mind the launcher, but I really don't like the "Ubuntu Start" or "Dash Home" as it seems to have been renamed to tdoay. | 02:10 |
| Onlyodin | *today | 02:10 |
| Onlyodin | I'd much prefer to have Applications, Places, Etc in a Menu format - I have a mouse and I'd prefer to use its strengths. | 02:12 |
| min|dvir|us_ | Peddy: thanks! | 02:13 |
| Peddy | min|dvir|us_, did it work? :D | 02:14 |
| min|dvir|us_ | Yes. | 02:15 |
| Peddy | glad to hear it! | 02:15 |
| zhiwei | hello,everyone. how to disable pptp vpn to remember password on ubuntu11.10? | 03:02 |
| Onlyodin | If anyone doesn't see window geometry (cols x rows) when resizing gnome-terminal windows, please feel free to mark this bug as affecting you too: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/764134 | 03:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 764134 in compiz (Ubuntu) "gnome-terminal no longer displays geometry on resize" [Low,Confirmed] | 03:08 |
| hd1 | anyone running oneiric on an eee? | 04:50 |
| hd1 | aside from me, of course | 04:51 |
| billybigrigger_ | negative | 04:56 |
| Smedles | hi all - currently running 11.10 with latest updates - if I logon with default 'Unity' after system starts up, I get n Unity sidebar or anything just the Evolution menus across the top | 05:00 |
| Smedles | 'Unity 2D' works as expected | 05:01 |
| Smedles | any tips? | 05:01 |
| urlin2u | Smedles, genearlly associayed with the graphic card and drivers, have you looked in additional drivers in the menu? | 05:03 |
| Smedles | urlin2u: I think I already have the ATiI drivers installed | 05:07 |
| Smedles | running 'additional drivers' from system settings from unity 2d triggered a crach in jockey-gtk | 05:08 |
| urlin2u | Smedles, sometimes the drivers from ubuntu work better then direct from a card manufacturer or other source, do you know which you have. | 05:09 |
| Smedles | IIRC, on 11.04 I had the ATI 3rd party drivers - not sure if 11.10 kept that or changed it to something else | 05:09 |
| urlin2u | Smedles, the ones in Natty don't belive follow with a upgarde, are you upgarde or a fresh install? | 05:10 |
| urlin2u | I | 05:10 |
| Smedles | upgrade | 05:10 |
| urlin2u | upgrades don't carry drivers I believe. | 05:10 |
| urlin2u | to the upgrade | 05:10 |
| Smedles | ahh graphics is running in VESA mode with fallback | 05:11 |
| Smedles | that would explain why Unity isn't working | 05:11 |
| urlin2u | this command will identify the card lspci | grep VGA | 05:11 |
| urlin2u | not my best area just so you know, but I wont advise anything that causes breakage | 05:12 |
| Smedles | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Cedar PRO [Radeon HD 5450] | 05:12 |
| sagaci | I like that your name appears up the top right again | 05:14 |
| urlin2u | so that card as you know is supported in Natty and may or will be in oneiric, it may just be a little help from somebody more knowledgeable and/or your persistence in looking. It may be available through the app that crashed or a command or in sysnaptic not sure there really | 05:17 |
| urlin2u | synaptic | 05:17 |
| urlin2u | this link has a link at the top that may be it. http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/oneiric/man4/radeon.4.html | 05:18 |
| bullgard4_ | jbicha: Thank you for your help yesterday about "Launch a restricted guest session". | 05:19 |
| Smedles | urlin2u: thanks for tips - will try changing display driver | 05:22 |
| vooze | hey, i'm playing around with 11.10 daily (from yestoday) in virtualbox, but i can only run unity2d by default.. And the "new drivers" GFX does not appear.. how can i install it though terminal? Its an nvidia geforce GTS250M (1GB) card.. ? :) | 05:41 |
| vooze | just running 11.10 daily in virtualbox, cant wait for beta1 or 2! ;) | 05:47 |
| oem | i recently switched distro's but had ubuntu 11.10 alpha 2 installed i used the same login thats found in 11.04 and am curious to know if the update manager could have updated the login that caused it to crash well anyways i will wait for a working copy of 11.10 now btw gnome3 is awesome if for no other reason it just fills right for me | 05:53 |
| oem | ^feels lol | 05:53 |
| vooze | How do i switch to unity3d? I think i still use unity2d in virtualbox after installin guest additions and rebooting virtualbox | 06:11 |
| urlin2u | vooze, 2d will only work in vbox in a install you choose the option at the login | 06:12 |
| urlin2u | regular install | 06:13 |
| vooze | ah okay :/ sad | 06:13 |
| vooze | but thanks | 06:13 |
| vooze | I should still use compiz manager in 11.10 right? To modify launcher etc. | 06:18 |
| urlin2u | vooze, you can but know what your doing. | 06:47 |
| SmedlesTP | hi all | 07:02 |
| SmedlesTP | uggh I tried to change video driver from vesa to ati and now the system hangs on startup after a message about "the default security mechanism will be upgraded" | 07:03 |
| SmedlesTP | something relating to ntlm | 07:03 |
| SmedlesTP | I'm assuming this hang is related to trying to change display driver | 07:03 |
| SmedlesTP | I tried editing /etx/X11/xorg.conf to show Driver "vesa" but it still doesn't work | 07:04 |
| Mirv | the alt key problem I described yesterday was now found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/834684 | 07:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 834684 in unity (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Switcher shortcut to flip through windows breaks on !us layouts" [High,Confirmed] | 07:38 |
| Mirv | not much testing done I guess | 07:38 |
| jbicha | of course Ubuntu is still alpha... | 07:43 |
| Ian_Corne | Mirv: i've turned it off in ccsm | 07:59 |
| Ian_Corne | :p | 07:59 |
| SmedlesTP | ugghh Xorg.0.log shows "vesa: Ignoring device with a bound kerel driver' | 08:00 |
| SmedlesTP | so I guess I have to figure out how to stop the proprietary ati kernel driver loading | 08:01 |
| SmedlesTP | yay fixed (i think) | 08:05 |
| SmedlesTP | but still no 3d support :( | 08:06 |
| Lynoure | On oneiric, on kubuntu I can no longer find the place where one sets the default ogg quality | 10:03 |
| Lynoure | it used to be under Multimedia, but I cannot see it there. Where can I set it now? | 10:04 |
| zhiwei | hello,everyone. How to disable pptp vpn password autosave in ubuntu 11.10? | 10:13 |
| zhiwei | I found the solution,change password-flags=2 . | 10:39 |
| nocturn | Hi | 11:43 |
| nocturn | How can I uninstall :386 packages on amd64 multiarch | 11:44 |
| nocturn | the package name looks like virtualgl:386 | 11:44 |
| jtaylor | i386 not 386 | 11:45 |
| nocturn | but dpkg -r virtualgl:386 or virtualgl says there's no installed package matching... | 11:45 |
| nocturn | jtaylor: this is the new multiarch functionality | 11:45 |
| nocturn | ok, I see | 11:45 |
| nocturn | jtaylor: Thanks!!! | 11:45 |
| heslam | hey guys. is there a bug already submitted for the "Theme to be used for the UI" text in the Appearance section in System Settings? | 11:48 |
| heslam | i am happy to make one if not, but i'm having trouble double checking | 11:49 |
| jtaylor | whats the bug? | 11:53 |
| jtaylor | UI -> User Interface? | 11:53 |
| === JanC_ is now known as JanC | ||
| step2 | Is it possible to disable that the dash tint always tries to look a colour similar to the background? Always looks weird, I'd rather have it black/grey-transparent as before | 12:20 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:57 |
| jtaylor | hm I seem to have lost sound since | 13:01 |
| jtaylor | was working yesterday | 13:01 |
| jtaylor | ok weird mplayer and vlc don't work, but the falshplayer does have sound | 13:03 |
| sagaci | still ok for me :/ | 13:05 |
| Volkodav | anybody installed on on Macbook 7.1 ? | 13:28 |
| kyubutsu | any changes to unity2d at all? have only seen unity3d news | 14:05 |
| === STiK_ is now known as STiK | ||
| carli2 | i have a question to oneiric: how can i set up multiple desktops? | 14:16 |
| carli2 | and how can i start a program like with alt+f2? | 14:17 |
| carli2 | from where can i get a working gnome2 environment? | 14:19 |
| Ian_Corne | you cannot | 14:21 |
| carli2 | where is the setup for my virtual desktops? | 14:21 |
| carli2 | i cannot edit my panel | 14:21 |
| Ian_Corne | that is correct | 14:21 |
| Ian_Corne | type in display in the dash lens | 14:22 |
| carli2 | where can i set up the window properties? | 14:23 |
| carli2 | a lot of gtk components also dont work any more | 14:26 |
| carli2 | hi | 14:39 |
| carli2 | where can i access the window properties? | 14:39 |
| Onlyodin | which window properties are you looking for? | 14:41 |
| carli2 | the one where i can move the windows with kmod4 and auto-focus windows on hover | 14:42 |
| Onlyodin | Yeah, good question. No idea. | 15:00 |
| carli2 | and how can i move elements on the gnome-panel? | 15:06 |
| Ian_Corne | you cannot | 15:06 |
| carli2 | i'm using the fallback mode because other modes dont work properly | 15:06 |
| Ian_Corne | fallback is unity2d | 15:06 |
| Ian_Corne | which is also unity | 15:06 |
| Ian_Corne | and not gnome-panel | 15:06 |
| Ian_Corne | are you on 11.10? | 15:07 |
| carli2 | i'm on 11.10 | 15:08 |
| Ian_Corne | then fallback is unity2d | 15:08 |
| carli2 | i installed teh package gnome-fallback | 15:09 |
| Ian_Corne | N: Unable to locate package gnome-fallback | 15:10 |
| Ian_Corne | E: No packages found | 15:10 |
| Ian_Corne | you did? | 15:10 |
| Ian_Corne | !info gnome-fallback | 15:11 |
| ubottu | Package gnome-fallback does not exist in oneiric | 15:11 |
| step2 | you mean gnome classic? at least on my syste some weird gnome-classic session still exists but it looks quite weird, as is to be expected if it is also deprecated by gnome themselves in favour of g-shell | 15:14 |
| carli2 | ah, and the scrollbars dont refresh the window content when i move them | 15:29 |
| carli2 | but that's buggy since 11.04 | 15:29 |
| carli2 | and when i switch the app with alt+tab, the cursor in the terminal is not highlighted even with focus | 15:40 |
| carli2 | ehm | 16:04 |
| carli2 | didnt you know enet 1.2 and enet 1.3 are incompatible from their function signatures? | 16:04 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| carli2 | why is it then overwritten? | 16:05 |
| carli2 | i need the old enet; | 16:05 |
| carli2 | this will also break sauerbraten and other network based games | 16:05 |
| Ian_Corne | I don't, what, how? What are you talking about? | 16:05 |
| carli2 | libenet-dev | 16:06 |
| carli2 | upgraded to version 1.3 | 16:06 |
| carli2 | but 1.2 and 1.3 are incompatible | 16:06 |
| Ian_Corne | ok | 16:06 |
| carli2 | this breaks a bunch of games | 16:06 |
| carli2 | and i have to build enet-1.2 from source and distribute binaries | 16:07 |
| carli2 | and building enet from source means downloading codeblocks :strangle: | 16:08 |
| carli2 | the correct package libenet0debian1 was removed since (dunno) | 16:13 |
| carli2 | who is reliable for up- and downgrading libs and packaging all these things? | 16:18 |
| carli2 | please bring this package back | 16:20 |
| carli2 | http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/lucid/libenet0debian1 | 16:20 |
| carli2 | and the software center is not able to install downloaded .deb files | 16:21 |
| jbicha | carli2: that's not true, software center can install .deb's but the dependencies have to be available | 16:24 |
| jbicha | and you can't install things that conflict with each other | 16:24 |
| carli2 | they were. but it did not install | 16:25 |
| carli2 | i installed with dpkg -i and it worked | 16:25 |
| carli2 | and i got no feedback what went wrong in the software center | 16:25 |
| carli2 | please bring that lib back: http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/lucid/libenet0debian1 | 16:26 |
| carli2 | otherwise sauerbraten and a few other games are broken | 16:26 |
| jtaylor | games in the ubuntu repository? | 16:29 |
| Ian_Corne | i doubt it | 16:29 |
| carli2 | from enet 1.2 to enet 1.3 they changed the order of the struct content and the function signatures | 16:30 |
| carli2 | in some cases, it crashes; in other cases i get data garbage | 16:30 |
| carli2 | ubuntu should have named them different | 16:30 |
| Ian_Corne | .. | 16:31 |
| jtaylor | it appears they did | 16:31 |
| jtaylor | different version library packages are mostly coinstallable | 16:32 |
| carli2 | libenet0debian1 was removed from the sources; libenet-dev points to the newer version | 16:32 |
| jtaylor | just install the version that works, and get upstreams to change to the newest one | 16:32 |
| carli2 | i had to manually download the older version from a lucid repos | 16:32 |
| carli2 | getting to the newest one requires to change my code _and_ i dont have enet 1.3 dll for windows; and i dont have a windows system to offer any more support for my game | 16:33 |
| Ian_Corne | so you want ubuntu to stay on the old version, because you can't update to the new? | 16:33 |
| carli2 | the problem is that LTS's libenet-dev points to the older version | 16:33 |
| carli2 | ubuntu should name them different and keep both versions in the sources | 16:34 |
| jtaylor | ubuntu only supports its repository | 16:34 |
| jtaylor | if your program where packages the old version would not be removed from users systems | 16:34 |
| carli2 | you cannot simply replace a kernel 1.2 by 3.0 without changing any driver code (if you know what i want to point out with that) | 16:34 |
| jtaylor | there was not program in the archive which required the old version, so it was removed | 16:35 |
| carli2 | :S | 16:36 |
| carli2 | well that causes me to extend the readme for my game; | 16:37 |
| carli2 | and no one reads the readme | 16:37 |
| carli2 | that makes it more and more complicated | 16:37 |
| jtaylor | the best solution is to get your game packaged and added to the archive | 16:38 |
| jtaylor | then library transitions will take it into account | 16:38 |
| carli2 | okay. | 16:38 |
| carli2 | libNewton could be packaged first. | 16:38 |
| Ian_Corne | you could also set up a ppa | 16:39 |
| Ian_Corne | for the older library | 16:39 |
| Ian_Corne | It's not that easy to get into the main archive, or so I've heard | 16:39 |
| carli2 | that requires a lot of work... packaging, cross compiling, ... | 16:41 |
| carli2 | but i will try | 16:41 |
| yofel | well, would need some packaging changes, but would be doable I guess. We don't maintain enet in ubuntu though, it's just synced from debian | 16:41 |
| yofel | why cross compiling? | 16:41 |
| carli2 | i386, amd64, arm | 16:42 |
| carli2 | but for arm i only plan android and pandora; dunno if arm desktop will come | 16:42 |
| yofel | ah, no arm support in the PPAs, but the other 2 will be built | 16:42 |
| carli2 | i'm using newton game dynamics. should i put it into an extra package? | 16:43 |
| jtaylor | yes | 16:43 |
| jtaylor | if you attempt to get it into the archive it is preferable to add it to debian | 16:44 |
| carli2 | okay | 16:44 |
| Ian_Corne | carli2: is your game free or payed? | 16:44 |
| Ian_Corne | just wondering :) | 16:44 |
| jtaylor | for that it must fullfil the debian free softawre guidlines | 16:44 |
| carli2 | i dont know if i will keep it as a hobby or earn money with it. | 16:45 |
| Ian_Corne | for android, you could probably easely make a paid and an add version? :) | 16:45 |
| carli2 | and if i earn money with it, i have to decide between gaming fees or buying. | 16:45 |
| carli2 | the game itself is open source under an ISC-like license | 16:46 |
| carli2 | but the source is not released yet because we're developing (http://goldenwipf.de) | 16:46 |
| jtaylor | the source has to be available for it to go into the regular archives | 16:47 |
| carli2 | the source of newton is available. i will see if i maintain the dependencies at first. | 16:48 |
| carli2 | an other problem in oneric: i dont see the cursor where i write; and pressing left does not move the invisible cursor | 16:49 |
| carli2 | its only in the pidgin write window | 16:49 |
| carli2 | and only for some tabs | 16:49 |
| carli2 | same problem with lazarus, also hidden cursor on some tabs | 16:50 |
| Ian_Corne | I do see my cursor in pidgin | 16:50 |
| carli2 | i see it in every tab except the #ubuntu+1 | 16:51 |
| carli2 | are there some scripts to build random libraries into a .deb package? | 17:04 |
| carli2 | similar to makekpkg, but for libs | 17:05 |
| carli2 | how is a lib like gtk packaged? | 17:05 |
| jtaylor | library packaging is complicated | 17:07 |
| jtaylor | here is some info: http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/column/libpkg-guide/libpkg-guide.html | 17:07 |
| jtaylor | but some of it is outdated | 17:08 |
| jtaylor | http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html | 17:08 |
| === eyes_ is now known as EyesIsMine | ||
| hdpb | I lost Unity3D following update on 8/25. 2D is fine. What should I check to find reasons? | 18:21 |
| anadon | system doesn't like some important repoitories, such as security: http://pastebin.com/K9UEsnxJ | 18:33 |
| jtaylor | how can mplayer and vlc have nosound, but flashplugin does | 21:31 |
| jtaylor | usually its flash that makes me problems not the program that works best on my desktop ._. | 21:31 |
| jtaylor | any hints on fixing it, worked yesterday both players give no error message, pulseaudio seems running | 21:32 |
| Ian_Corne | lol | 21:34 |
| Ian_Corne | sorry, don't know, but lol at the situation :) | 21:34 |
| notlistening | I just ran an upgrade from 11.04 and chose not to migrate the window manage from gdm is that going to cause me a headache? | 22:00 |
| jtaylor | it might, gdm will probably not be supported by canonical anymore | 22:10 |
| notlistening | is there a way to force the move after the system installs? | 22:16 |
| * penguin42 should do that as well - I suspect removing gdm and installing lightdm might do it | 22:24 | |
| Ian_Corne | dpkg --reconfigure might also work | 22:25 |
| Ian_Corne | to get the same popup | 22:25 |
| penguin42 | well, apt-get remove gdm wasn't too happy, but it did then ask me what to use and let me choose lightdm - I guess I'll find out if it worked next time I boot! | 22:28 |
| === Smedles_ is now known as Smedles | ||
| jtaylor | reconfigure should do it | 22:29 |
| jtaylor | dpkg-reconfigure that is | 22:30 |
| Ian_Corne | yeh it's dpkg --configure and dpkg-reconfigure | 22:31 |
| Ian_Corne | always get the two mixed up :) | 22:31 |
| jtaylor | If I recall correctly from when I changed to kdm it should then ask you which one you want from the installed ones | 22:31 |
| Ian_Corne | it does | 22:32 |
| * penguin42 might do the same on his other box; I've go ta problem with gdm where it occasionally leaves it's metacity running in my KDE session | 22:39 | |
| penguin42 | (which feels like a nasty security bug, but that wasn't agreed with when I reported it, hohum) | 22:39 |
| Ian_Corne | hehe | 22:40 |
| notlistening | what package do i have to reconfigure | 22:47 |
| notlistening | and keeping gdm just killed the upgrade spectacularly | 22:47 |
| jtaylor | gdm or lightdm | 22:47 |
| jtaylor | shouldn't matter | 22:47 |
| notlistening | okay it failed | 22:48 |
| notlistening | Is there a way to get it run install again? | 22:55 |
| notlistening | like installing from a CD but from the running system like an upgrade | 22:56 |
| jtaylor | what is failing? | 22:57 |
| Ian_Corne | sudo apt-get install -f should continue the install | 23:00 |
| notlistening | it did | 23:00 |
| notlistening | I just get a blank screen when restarting how after the splash screen | 23:01 |
| notlistening | hastens to add i was getting this on 11.04 aswell I can get any output and the video is configured as much as i can tell | 23:02 |
| notlistening | it is the open-chrome video driver | 23:02 |
| notlistening | worked on < 10.10 | 23:02 |
| notlistening | I can hear the distored login sound | 23:04 |
| === TerminX_ is now known as TerminX | ||
| zhiwei | I can't use banshee to listen music,when I start up banshee, exception info:Exception in Gtk# callback delegate | 23:13 |
| zhiwei | Note: Applications can use GLib.ExceptionManager.UnhandledException to handle the exception. | 23:14 |
| penguin42 | file a bug - is that the only message? | 23:19 |
| zhiwei | penguin42: no,there are many lines of error message. | 23:21 |
| penguin42 | zhiwei: Can you put them in a paste bin? | 23:25 |
| zhiwei | ok | 23:25 |
| jtaylor | ok I'm confused, after opening a file with vlc and my pc freezing + reboot sound is working again ... | 23:47 |
| jtaylor | but its not the first reboot since I have the problem so that did not solve the isse | 23:47 |
| jtaylor | the crrash seem to have done it xD | 23:48 |
| Ian_Corne | jtaylor: i had that too, vlc crashed my session | 23:48 |
| Ian_Corne | it was not good. | 23:48 |
| jtaylor | ok no | 23:48 |
| jtaylor | its not fixes | 23:48 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| jtaylor | worked in banshee, started mplayer, sound gone, gone in banshee too .. | 23:49 |
| jtaylor | mplayer probably breaks it ._. | 23:49 |
| penguin42 | jtaylor: If you do a pactl exit does it then work? | 23:50 |
| jtaylor | Connection failure: Connection terminated | 23:52 |
| jtaylor | does not fix it | 23:52 |
| yofel | hm, I can use smplayer fine here, so I doubt that's the problem | 23:52 |
| * penguin42 has had some hard to define problems lately where it has taken a pa restart | 23:53 | |
| penguin42 | hmm, bug or feature? comments addressed to me in pidgin seemed to have stopped getting notify-osd'd | 23:57 |
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