[00:10] <diplo> Still learning myself :(
[00:18]  * penguin42 tries to debug virtManager
[00:28] <diplo> :)
[00:28] <diplo> Another late person on the go then
[00:29]  * penguin42 should go to bed actually....
[00:41] <szymon_g> hi
[06:28] <MartijnVdS> \o
[08:55] <AlanBell> morning all
[09:07] <MartijnVdS> hi AlanBell
[09:10] <daubers> Morning
[09:12]  * daubers upgrade to 11.10 for funsies
[09:12]  * MartijnVdS is going to try to replace the radio in his car today
[09:12] <MartijnVdS> never done that before... :)
[09:14] <daubers> MartijnVdS: Easy peasy
[09:15] <MartijnVdS> daubers: I can't see any way to get the radio out though
[09:18] <daubers> MartijnVdS: The radio should have 2 pieces of metal which are tools to insert/remove the radio
[09:18] <MartijnVdS> yes
[09:18] <MartijnVdS> I have those
[09:19] <daubers> they slide in the side of the radio to remove it, one either side. You might have a fascia you need to remove
[09:21] <MartijnVdS> Yeah I don't expect too much trouble
[09:22] <MartijnVdS> I even have a special cable that can switch power leads (in case they're the wrong way around and the radio forgets its settings every time it's turned on)
[09:30] <diplo> morning all
[09:33] <MartijnVdS> \o diplodude
[09:36] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[09:36] <MartijnVdS> \o brobostigon
[09:36] <brobostigon> o/ MartijnVdS
[09:36] <MartijnVdS> This hurts :) http://t.co/IrR335L
[09:48] <diplo> One of my drives failing that im trying to copy off :(
[09:48] <MartijnVdS> daubers: use ddrescue
[09:49] <MartijnVdS> it'll make a 1:1 image, retrying sectors if they fail
[09:49] <MartijnVdS> diplo:, sorry
[09:49] <diplo> thoughts if i resize the ntfs partition on this drive
[09:49]  * diplo looks into now
[09:49] <diplo> cheers
[09:50] <MartijnVdS> it might not rescue everything, but it'll rescue as much as it can
[10:00] <diplo> Tired, didn't get till 5am :/
[10:00] <diplo> to bed till*
[10:01] <MartijnVdS> sounds like you need an afternoon nap
[10:01] <MartijnVdS> during F1 qualifying maybe? :)
[10:01] <diplo> heh, never been able to sleep during the day :/
[10:01] <MartijnVdS> F1 = perfect afternoon naps
[10:01] <diplo> oh yes, forgot that was!
[10:02] <MartijnVdS> Spa this weekend
[10:07] <diplo> Suppose I really ought to get tidying the house so i can sit down and watch it
[10:57] <daubers> Well, oneiric seems to work
[10:59]  * daubers expected moar breakage
[11:22] <daubers> someone pop over to maplin and pick me up a push to make switch. Ta
[11:25] <diplo> :)
[11:25] <diplo> For you touchpad owners, http://androidcommunity.com/hp-touchpad-android-2-2-1-system-dump-files-now-available-20110825/ if you haven't seen it
[11:26] <directhex> diplo: boo.
[11:26] <diplo> heh I know you like webos :)
[11:26] <directhex> diplo: the touchdroid project is a crap premise masterminded by teenagers who struggle with basic concepts
[11:27] <directhex> e.g. i wonder if any of them noticed that the touchpad's kernel source is an android tree - i.e. a touchpad android kernel is a recompile away
[11:27] <diplo> I'd like to have a play with a touch pad
[11:27] <diplo> oh, I hadn't read that much yet
[11:27] <diplo> Lost interest i guess after i couldn't get one
[11:27] <diplo> :/
[11:36] <directhex> let's take an example - the forum where the first system dump was taken? their contains-non-free-components image dump is marked with "THIS IMAGE IS MY INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY AND CANNOT BE UPLOADED TO ANY SITE EXCEPT THIS ONE"
[11:36] <directhex> thse aren't sophisticated people
[11:42] <diplo> :D
[11:49] <daubers> directhex: Sounds like a young steve jobs
[11:57] <skybinary> hello
[11:58] <skybinary> can anyone help me? i installed linux mint on my second drive but it failed at the bootloader
[11:59] <skybinary> seeing as the second drive has mint installed how do i get vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-generic into my boot partition?
[12:48] <AlanBell> !mint
[14:27] <bigcalm> Afternoon kids
[14:28] <brobostigon> afternoonings bigcalm
[14:29] <MartijnVdS> \o
[14:34] <Pendulum> hiya bigcalm
[14:37] <bigcalm> Hey hey :)
[14:42] <daubers> maplins is still full of fail :(
[14:50] <bigcalm> Web browsers and eclipse (and others possibly) are very laggy to scroll. How might I improve this? Already have the nvidia driver installed, though the system says that it isn't in use...
[14:54] <bigcalm> Using xinerama over 3 monitors as twinview doesn't do what I need
[14:55] <Azelphur> haha, so your a xinerama kill performance no compiz person then :P
[14:55] <bigcalm> Unless somebody here is good with setting up xorg for 3 monitors over 2 graphics cards
[14:55] <Azelphur> *wave*
[14:56] <Azelphur> TwinView doesn't scale over graphics cards
[14:56] <Azelphur> it's in the name, twin, ie only 2 :(
[14:56] <bigcalm> Aha, let me pastebin my xorg
[14:56] <Azelphur> bigcalm: you've got 2 choices really, A) you stick with xinerama with bad performance / no compiz
[14:57] <bigcalm> http://paste.ubuntu.com/675980/
[14:57] <Azelphur> B) You use separate X screens, you get performance, but you get loads of bugs and you can't drag windows between your first 2 monitors, and your third
[14:57] <bigcalm> Lets see if we can get option B working
[14:58] <Azelphur> I use 2x twinview split down the middle :)
[14:58] <Azelphur> ok, pretty simple then
[14:58] <bigcalm> Note that I have my 2nd screen rotated 90 deg
[14:58] <Azelphur> just go into nvidia-settings and set it up in there is the easiest
[14:58] <Azelphur> put your first cards monitors on twinview
[14:58] <Azelphur> and make your second cards monitor a Separate X Screen
[14:59] <bigcalm> Can you rotate the 2nd screen in twinview?
[14:59] <Azelphur> not sure
[15:02] <bigcalm> Here goes :)
[15:03] <bigcalm> This is messed up :/
[15:04] <bigcalm> Also:
[15:04] <bigcalm> Could not get screen information
[15:04] <bigcalm> RandR extension is not present
[15:04] <MartijnVdS> RandR not present? nvidia?
[15:05] <bigcalm> Yes
[15:22] <bigcalm[revo]> Azelphur: now running 3 seperate X screens
[15:23] <bigcalm[revo]> Just to have things run quickly _and_ have my centra monitor rotated to the left
[15:23] <Azelphur> :)
[15:23] <bigcalm[revo]> Does mean that I can't move windows between screens at all
[15:23] <bigcalm[revo]> Never mind :)
[15:24] <bigcalm[revo]> I have to be careful where I load a program now
[15:26] <bigcalm[revo]> Not very ideal this sadly
[15:31] <bigcalm[revo]> Would be good to be able to copy all of my panel shortcuts from screen 1 to 2 and 3
[15:36] <bigcalm[revo]> Oh bugger
[15:36] <bigcalm[revo]> Now I have 6 virtual desktops for each screen
[15:36] <bigcalm[revo]> This is going to be crazy
[16:03] <brobostigon> new Dr who. bbc1 19:10.
[16:38] <HazRPG> ali1234: wow, they actually closed the bug just because it "no longer does it in oneiric" when the bug was originally for natty...
[16:39] <ali1234> that's right
[16:39] <ali1234> a bug has to be fix released before it can be sru's
[16:49] <HazRPG> ali1234: SRU'd?
[16:49] <HazRPG> brobostigon: I is looking forward to 19:10 too :)
[16:51] <brobostigon> :)
[16:59] <HazRPG> ah, SRU stands for Stable Release Updates
[17:01] <HazRPG> hmm, I think others should confirm this bug cos at the moment I'm sure the dev's think that only 2 people are having issues with this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/826059
[17:03] <HazRPG> Make sure to save all work first, and be ready to open up a terminal to do "unity --replace"
[17:05] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Paul Mellors] It was 20 years ago today.... - http://paulmellors.blogspot.com/2011/08/it-was-20-years-ago-today.html
[17:05] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Paul Mellors] cronlog - Debian Squeeze - http://paulmellors.blogspot.com/2011/08/cronlog-debian-squeeze.html
[17:07] <MartijnVdS> Doctor Who in an hour \o/
[17:10] <kvarley> Ubuntu 11.04 amd64 - The wired network is unmanaged when I click on nm-applet. How can I fix this? I can use the wired network and can use the internet but nm-applet doesn't manage my iface
[17:10] <MartijnVdS> kvarley: It only works if you plug in a cable
[17:10] <MartijnVdS> and it detects link
[17:11] <kvarley> MartijnVdS: It's a software issue. Not hardware.
[17:11] <MartijnVdS> kvarley: is the cable connected?
[17:11] <kvarley> MartijnVdS: I have a cable plugged in, that's how I'm talking to you right now.
[17:11] <kvarley> MartijnVdS: It's something I've had happen with Ubuntu before too but can't remember how I fixed it
[17:12] <MartijnVdS> kvarley: is the interface in /etc/network/interfaces? IF it is, network-manager will ignore it
[17:12] <kvarley> MartijnVdS: Ah yes, that's it
[17:12] <kvarley> MartijnVdS: It
[17:12] <kvarley> MartijnVdS: is in there for some reason
[17:42] <MartijnVdS> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Adk1ujjmguo
[17:51] <daubers> lo
[17:56] <MartijnVdS> \o daubers
[18:13] <brobostigon> bbc1, now
[18:18] <HazRPG> \o/
[18:19] <HazRPG> brobostigon: DOCTOR WHOZ! \o/
[18:19] <brobostigon> yes, :)
[18:19] <brobostigon> o/
[18:20]  * hamitron will be watching the previous episodes from the series first, to recap what happened
[18:20] <HazRPG> hamitron: I did that last night ;D
[18:21] <hamitron> I'm still downloading them
[18:21] <hamitron> :/
[18:21] <hamitron> 3 days left
[18:21] <hamitron> :)
[18:21] <HazRPG> ;o
[18:21] <hamitron> so should be up-to-date by next weekend
[18:58] <MartijnVdS> Doctor Who was GOOD</spoilers> :)
[19:01] <HazRPG> o.O
[19:01] <HazRPG> MartijnVdS: all I can think of is "what the... I don't even!"
[19:01] <hamitron> shush
[19:01] <hamitron> ;/
[19:05] <HazRPG> anyone else thinking they need to rewatch that episode??
[19:06] <brobostigon> that was an interesting ep.
[19:09] <shauno> fantastic taste in cars tho :)
[19:12] <ali1234> HazRPG: you'd think your sister would have learned not to do that the second or third time
[19:13] <ali1234> anyway bug is now nominated. i'm looking for the exact patch that fixed it
[19:14] <HazRPG> ali1234: That's just it though, users don't realise that bugs can exist in software... they just think it "randomly crashed".
[19:14] <ali1234> hence "second or third time"
[19:15] <ali1234> "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
[19:15] <HazRPG> she probably would have done it more times until I said to her "stop doing it... clearly its broken and needs fixed by the people who made it"
[19:16] <ali1234> gord: when i see "dnd" in unity changelog, that refers to drag and drop?
[19:17] <gord> ali1234, it does
[19:17] <ali1234> any idea what patch fixed bug 826059?
[19:17] <gord> not dungeons and dragons
[19:18] <HazRPG> gord: could mean "Do Not Disturb" :P
[19:18] <ali1234> could mean just about anything given you also have "bfb" and "bamf" as acronyms?
[19:18] <ali1234> what do they stand for btw?
[19:19] <ali1234> i know bamf has something to do with focussing?
[19:19] <ali1234> bfb = best friends button?
[19:19] <gord> big friendly button
[19:19] <gord> not sure what patch would of fixed that, i don't really work with the launcher much
[19:20] <gord> bamf is the bamf application matching framework
[19:21] <ali1234> ok, thanks
[19:22] <ali1234> how do i do a bisect with bzr?
[19:22] <gord> i think there might be a plugin in the repos to do that
[19:22] <gord> there are a whole lot of them under the namespace bzr-<thing>
[19:22] <ali1234> http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/plugins/en/bisect-plugin.html
[19:23] <ali1234> why isn't that built in? it is a pretty important feature
[19:23] <ali1234> oh well
[19:23] <gord> good question :)
[19:28] <Azelphur> I just started using github for my project, \o/ https://github.com/Azelphur/SourceIRC
[19:30] <ali1234> gord: how do i test a unity build from bzr checkout? can i just unity --replace from the build tree without installing it?
[19:32] <gord> ali1234, nope, its a compiz plugin so you have to install it then compiz --replace ; you can do cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/somewhere/ to define a local install prefix. once you are done testing you can rm ~/.compiz-1/plugins to use system installed unity again
[19:32] <gord> unless you are testing the dash, i built a standalone version of the dash a long time ago so i don't have to do that :)
[19:32] <ali1234> no, i;m testing the launcher dnd :)
[19:34] <ali1234> so DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=~/.compiz-1/plugins?
[19:34] <ali1234> i am confused
[19:36] <ali1234> can i just build a deb from bzr?
[19:38] <penguin42> ali1234: If it's got a debian subdir then try dpkg-buildpackage in there
[19:38] <ali1234> http://askubuntu.com/questions/28470/how-do-i-build-unity-from-source/28472#28472
[19:39] <penguin42> (Generic deb answer rather than unity)
[19:39] <ali1234> yeah it doesn't have one
[19:39] <ali1234> the HACKING file in the source explains it too
[19:50] <HazRPG> MartijnVdS: :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/media-player-info/+bug/835568
[19:50] <MartijnVdS> wooo
[19:50] <MartijnVdS> :-)
[19:51] <HazRPG> I needed to wait for a time I could get on the actual machine to be able to do "ubuntu-bug media-player-info" :)
[19:52] <MartijnVdS> "Hey $sister_name, do you want that bug fixed or not?" ;-)
[19:53] <MartijnVdS> so you got it to work?
[19:53] <ali1234> why you can't ssh in and submit bug?
[19:57] <zleap> i tried to boot ubuntu on an e-machines dual athon system with nvidia 9x00 graphics should i get unity by default as i don't i just get gnome or do I need to choose unity somewhere
[19:58] <ali1234> you need to install the nvidia driver
[19:58] <zleap> ok
[19:58] <ali1234> then reboot
[19:58] <zleap> so i will get that when i install it
[19:58] <ali1234> unity is already installed
[19:58] <ali1234> it just doesn't work on nouveau
[19:58] <zleap> ok
[19:59] <zleap> i am installing from 2gb usb stick and it ran out of space when trying to downloading the extra repository data to it,  so it could find the nvidia drivers
[19:59] <zleap> I am probably doing something wrong, i should be able to test all this from a live session right
[20:00] <gord> i hear that unity does work on nouveau actually
[20:00] <gord> haven't tried myself, and i would depend on how well nouveau supports your particular gpu
[20:01] <jacobw> depends if you've run out of space, which i doubt on a 2GB drive
[20:01] <zleap> ok
[20:02] <zleap> i have also tried to install from the live cd and it crashed during install (creating ext4 file system) so I am trying a newer iso image to copy to the disk
[20:02] <ali1234> ok, the version of unity in natty won't work on nouveau, because it is blacklisted
[20:02] <ali1234> at least the version in the installation CD
[20:02] <zleap> ok
[20:03] <ali1234> all you have to do is do a normal install
[20:03] <ali1234> then reboot
[20:03] <ali1234> then jockey will install nvidia driver for you
[20:03] <ali1234> then reboot again
[20:03] <ali1234> then you will have unity
[20:03] <zleap> ok i will try and do the install without it crashing
[20:03] <zleap> as the system came with linpus I can't even figure out how to install new software on it
[20:03] <jacobw> i've had the natty installer hang on partitioning
[20:03] <jacobw> i don't know why it happens
[20:04] <zleap> ok
[20:05] <AlanBell> evening all
[20:05] <zleap> hi
[20:06] <zleap> as i said going to try a different newly downloaded iso image the orignal one i had was just after 11.04 came out so i am guessing it gets updated or fixed if there are issues
[20:06] <jacobw> aa1?
[20:06] <zleap> jacobw, ?
[20:06] <jacobw> acer aspire one
[20:06] <zleap> oh
[20:07] <jacobw> linpus sucks
[20:07] <zleap> jacobw, yeah i know but I don't want to wipe it, until i have a working alternative
[20:07] <zleap> jacobw, http://www.ebuyer.com/267867-emachine-er1401-desktop-pt-nbzec-004
[20:07] <ball> Linpus == Linux for Bagpus?
[20:08] <zleap> according to ubuntu this is certified to work
[20:08] <jacobw> well, if you install natty then you can always run 'ubuntu classic' i.e. gnome2 without 3d acceleration
[20:08] <HazRPG> MartijnVdS: nope I didn't... not a clue how to, looked into the repo and seems that all they do is add the mpi into a folder... I'm guessing media-player-info needs to be recompiled with the mpi file in the directory
[20:08] <jacobw> ball: could well be :P no upgrade path from whichever fedora release merged -core and -extras
[20:08] <zleap> ball, more like Linux distro to put people off and install any available version of windows
[20:09] <HazRPG> ali1234: I can ssh in, didn't think it would work that way since a browser is normally opened up...
[20:09] <ali1234> if display is unset it just prints the url for you to copy/paste
[20:10] <ali1234> which is also handy when you report bugs on a netbook and dont want to fill out the form on a tiny screen and keyboard
[20:10] <ali1234> which is something i do often since i test +1 on my netbooks
[20:10] <ball> What is a +1?
[20:11] <zleap> back later
[20:11] <ali1234> ball: ubuntu+1
[20:11]  * ball will have to look that up.
[20:11] <ali1234> ball: it just means the next version of ubuntu...
[20:11] <ball> Oh.
[20:12] <HazRPG> ali1234: sweet, didn't realise it could do that
[20:12] <HazRPG> make life easier in future
[20:13] <ali1234> yeah, ubuntu+1 usually has a lot of bugs until near release, and filling bug forms on a netbook is not nice
[20:14] <ali1234> launchpad and apport are really good
[20:14] <ali1234> best bug reporting system i have ever used
[20:14] <ali1234> and i have used quite a few
[20:15] <ali1234> specifically why i like it is because apport makes it easier to submit good reports
[20:15] <ali1234> where as the approach the others take is to make it harder to submit bad reports
[20:16] <diplo> Evening all
[20:16] <jacobw> evening diplo
[20:17] <mfraz74> evening
[20:18] <diplo> Changing the port that ssh runs on is as simple as ssh_config unhash line port and change from 22 to watever i want and restart ssh ?
[20:19] <AlanBell> diplo: yes, but do it carefully unless you have physical access
[20:19] <diplo> Well i've done it and restarted ssh
[20:19] <jacobw> think about the path back to your machine on that port..
[20:19] <diplo> and can still get on via 22
[20:19] <diplo> Local atm
[20:20] <mfraz74> have you logged out before trying again?
[20:22] <diplo> yep
[20:22] <jacobw> wouldn't make difference on local, would have to have logged out of ssh on remote before restarting server
[20:22] <diplo> Sorry meant local to machine not on the local machine, should have made myself clearer
[20:23] <diplo> who displays just my one session on
[20:26] <diplo> Suppose instead of doing this i could just turn off password login and use 22
[20:26] <jacobw> for public key auth?
[20:30] <diplo> Sorry
[20:30] <diplo> Yeah
[20:33] <diplo> Seems to be not reading the config
[20:35] <diplo> tomorrows job i think now
[20:40] <jacobw> http://pthree.org/2007/02/10/ssh-key-authentication/
[20:40] <AlanBell> diplo: you were editing /etc/ssh/sshd_config right?
[20:40] <AlanBell> the d is important
[20:42] <diplo> yep
[20:42] <diplo> Sorry went to the loo, yeah can do key auth fine
[20:42] <diplo> Just any changes not seeming to get read
[20:42] <jacobw> ok
[20:43] <jacobw> yeah, sshD..
[20:43] <diplo> lol, I know i shouldn't do stuff when im so tired
[20:44] <diplo> I'm glad i rechecked AlanBell
[20:44] <diplo> was ssh_config and not sshd :/
[20:44]  * diplo wont change anything else till tomorrow
[20:44]  * AlanBell has had several glasses of wine and a beer
[20:45] <AlanBell> just about ready to do some unity hacking
[20:45] <jacobw> ffs, noscript on youtube means an advert prefaces every video
[20:45] <jacobw> sounds about right for poking unity :P
[20:45] <AlanBell> judging by the rest of the code and design decisions I might need a refil
[20:45]  * hamitron makes note Unity is coded by drunks
[20:46] <hamitron> ;)
[20:47] <AlanBell> well we know from bug 764905 that it has been tested by drunks
[20:47] <jacobw> LOL
[20:51] <Seeker`> Did you guys hear about the £1million bounty on col. gadaffi's head?
[20:51] <Seeker`> most expensive chocolate bar since 2008, when the economy was given a £750 million boost.
[20:51] <AlanBell> that must be one hell of a chocolate bar
[20:51] <penguin42> how much just for the  hair?
[20:52] <AlanBell> beaten to the punchline
[20:52] <jacobw> ha
[20:54] <AlanBell> Dr Who was rather good this evening I thought
[20:55]  * daubers hasn't seen it yet
[20:56] <ball> I think we're about three episodes into the 11th doctor, so no spoilers please! ;-)
[20:56] <andres-kain> Hello all. A usual question, how do I change the login screen? no the splash: the image in background when selecting user login.
[20:57] <AlanBell> well seeing as spoilers could collapse the space time continum and end the universe as we know it I will refrane
[20:59] <AlanBell> andres-kain: http://maketecheasier.com/change-login-and-boot-screen-in-ubuntu-lucid/2010/05/13
[20:59] <jacobw> has it changed with gdm3?
[21:00] <AlanBell> we are using lightdm in oneiric
[21:00] <AlanBell> and yeah, it would change
[21:00] <AlanBell> however the login window is looking pretty cool right now
[21:00] <jacobw> http://ubuntucorner.blogspot.com/2011/02/changing-gdm3-theme-wallpaper.html
[21:01] <jacobw> yeah, it looks good.
[21:01] <andres-kain> Thank you! will have a look. Should be the same for xubuntu right?
[21:01] <jacobw> yes
[21:02] <andres-kain> Thank you!
[22:41] <Earthling> I want to build a craft
[22:43] <hamitron> what kind?
[22:44] <Earthling> To get off this planet
[22:46] <hamitron> bit boring, wanna try something new
[22:48] <Earthling> Currently, looking up flashing my sony elm instead
[22:49] <hamitron> didn't realise sony had a tree named after them :/
[22:50] <Earthling> You know the japs
[22:50] <Earthling> Put a cpu in anything
[22:51] <hamitron> aye :D
[22:52] <Earthling> I managed to flash another sony phone, hope I can do this one. But its got this irc client on it. So spend too much time here instead.
[22:52] <Earthling> Thumb ache client lol
[22:52] <hamitron> I gave up phones
[22:52] <hamitron> just lost interest
[22:52] <hamitron> :/
[22:53] <Earthling> Not take many calls hee hee. But very useful for sofa irc
[22:54] <Earthling> With free data im set free
[22:54] <hamitron> guess so
[22:54] <Earthling> Still wish to unlock my android. Linux plus phone is perfect
[22:55] <Earthling> Thats sony too. They make it very difficult
[22:55] <hamitron> if I actually get around to it, I'll probably look closely at the selection of wp7
[22:56] <Earthling> Then it midnight discovery channel distracts me til dawn with myth busters. Im doomed lol
[22:56] <hamitron> haha
[22:57] <hamitron> I got no tv
[22:57] <hamitron> turned analogue tv off
[22:57] <hamitron> :/
[22:57] <Earthling> Nor do i.. So the licence doll think
[22:59] <Earthling> Am starting to get very interested im solar power but they so expensive :-( I can run my whole house on 600 watts since I dont run much
[23:00] <Earthling> Fridge is 450 watts alone. Rest is computer which is 140
[23:00] <Earthling> Am babbling too
[23:00] <hamitron> 450W? :|
[23:00] <hamitron> didn't realise they used that much tbh
[23:01] <penguin42> Earthling: I asusme the fridge doesn't take that all teh time?
[23:01]  * hamitron would hope not
[23:02] <Earthling> On. Standby its very low but they need lots to keep temp stable
[23:02] <hamitron> is this an old device?
[23:02] <Earthling> Prob more like 50 on standby
[23:03] <Earthling> About 4 years
[23:03] <hamitron> you obviously drink far too much beer that needs chilling ;)
[23:04] <Earthling> Would still need grid for hoover and oven though. Unless I can store power at high output
[23:04] <Earthling> Lol beer :-)
[23:06] <Myrtti> awww this discussion pushes me to browse through tumbleweed house blogs again...
[23:06] <Earthling> Saw very cute little box in linux mag today. 5watts for full computer power. Cant remember its name.
[23:07] <Earthling> Atleast in chatting old man lol
[23:07] <Earthling> I used to have a channel called tumbleweed lol
[23:08] <Earthling> Myrrti whats on your mind
[23:09] <Earthling> Apart from being a troll lol
[23:11] <Myrtti> sewing machines, linux admin jobs, nailpolish, mum and fish, not in that order
[23:11] <hamitron> mum and fish?
[23:12] <Myrtti> I like fish
[23:12] <gord> would kill for some suchi tonight
[23:13] <Earthling> A stigma
[23:13] <Earthling> Scottish fish is wonderful
[23:14] <Earthling> As is the weather lol
[23:15] <Earthling> Wait. Mail polish? Lol someone wants a cheap buzz!
[23:15] <Earthling> Nail
[23:15] <Myrtti> or not
[23:16]  * ball is confused.
[23:17] <Earthling> Perhaps some geeks still jack sense of humour. But thats ok, still home people.
[23:17] <Earthling> Good people
[23:17] <Earthling> Damn t9
[23:17] <Myrtti> anyway, nini lovelies
[23:17] <Myrtti> ♥
[23:18] <ball> Yes, quite.
[23:19] <Earthling> Dare I chat on irc about rubbish lol
[23:22] <ball> Earthling: Depends on the channel, probably.
[23:23] <Earthling> No. Depends on user. Most are fine. Some just dont get the concept of idle chat.
[23:24] <Earthling> Been using irc before the dot com days, so I have good experience of lots of users that dont appreciate irc to fullest
[23:25] <Earthling> Perhaps you know of other random chat channels?
[23:26]  * ball wonders when the .com era started.
[23:26] <Earthling> Ball?
[23:26] <ball> Earthling: #defocus ?
[23:26] <Earthling> I reckon about 86 and beyond
[23:26] <Earthling> Thats the one!
[23:27] <Earthling> Have that on auto join on my amiga
[23:29] <Earthling> Forgot I have to wait a millenia to be voiced
[23:29] <funkyHat> Earthling: only if you've not been there for a while (can't remember how long)
[23:30] <ali1234> ball: 2000
[23:30] <ali1234> ball: 1995-2000
[23:30] <Earthling> Yeah your right. Via my phone I havent, so ill have to idle a while
[23:31] <Earthling> I already said 86 and beyond. :-)
[23:31] <Azelphur> http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/11/mavizens-ttx02-electric-motorcycle-laptop-on-wheels-linux.php?dtc=th_rss_science
[23:31] <Azelphur> linux, coming to a bike near you \o/
[23:31] <Earthling> Aze yay hee hee!
[23:33] <Earthling> I wonder if KITT ran on linux
[23:37] <ball> KITT ran on a shift register
[23:38] <Earthling> What is one of those then :-)
[23:39] <hamitron> I want that bike without the track kit :/
[23:41] <Earthling> I want my girl friend without the voice box
[23:41] <hamitron> :)