/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/27/#ubuntu-us-pa.txt

JonathanDwaltman: I have fresh batts for everything.00:01
JonathanDTotal of 20 12VDCs down there now.00:51
JonathanDabove "flood stage"00:51
mikedep333hello01:12
TheEvilPhoenix.beep01:13
mikedep333it's nice having a localized channel on freenode in an event like this01:13
TheEvilPhoenixhttp://www.pema.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt/community/governors_proclamations/4725  <--- governor of PA declared a state of emergency.01:13
TheEvilPhoenixs/emergency/disaster emergency/01:13
mikedep333yeah, saw that01:13
mikedep333thx anyway01:15
TheEvilPhoenixyup01:15
TheEvilPhoenixi am kinda biased... i hear about these proclamations before they even hit public news :P01:16
mikedep333TheEvilPhoenix, what packages do you maintain?01:16
TheEvilPhoenixmikedep333:  the ppa for BBot the IRC bot01:16
mikedep333cool01:16
TheEvilPhoenixhttps://launchpad.net/bbottheircbot01:16
mikedep333yup. you have 1834 points!01:17
TheEvilPhoenixi also own this project: https://launchpad.net/addgpg-apt01:18
TheEvilPhoenixhelps people who are having "NO_PUBKEY" errors from apt01:18
mikedep333TheEvilPhoenix, yeah, apt is so prone to breaking from repository errors01:27
mikedep333it makes me afraid to recommend ubuntu to novices01:27
TheEvilPhoenixdude, RHEL is worse\01:28
TheEvilPhoenixits a PITA01:28
TheEvilPhoenixand its not even true linux01:28
mikedep333not even true linux?01:28
mikedep333how so? not free?01:28
TheEvilPhoenixits Red Hat Enterprise Linux01:29
TheEvilPhoenixthey charge you for it01:29
mikedep333yes, I know about RHEL01:30
mikedep333I loaded centos 6 in vbox the other day01:31
mikedep333http://gizmodo.com/5834956/governor-chris-christie-to-idiots-get-the-hell-off-the-beach01:55
waltmanJonathanD: I expected nothing less02:02
waltmanpleia2: I find this photo really disturbing03:06
waltmanhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/6084585200/ # this one!03:06
sadinhey everyone long time no see03:17
TheEvilPhoenixohaitothee03:20
sadinive been bad TheEvilPhoenix03:25
TheEvilPhoenixhow so?  did you get shot in the face by my shotgun?03:25
sadin:( betrayed my ubuntu bretheren even after buying 25$ worth of ubuntu merch :(03:25
TheEvilPhoenixif that's the case, you're a zombie, and i shall incinerate thee03:25
TheEvilPhoenixah03:25
TheEvilPhoenixwell then i have no mercy towards you03:25
sadinim using archlinux on my laptop03:25
TheEvilPhoenixTRAITOR!03:25
TheEvilPhoenixYOU SHALL BE BURNED!03:25
sadinshall i be hung for that D:03:25
sadinWORSE :(03:25
TheEvilPhoenixhung, burned, shot, incinerated, decompiled, then obfuscated03:26
sadinlulz nah still got ubuntu on my desktop :D03:26
sadinduel botting on my laptop :P03:26
sadinbooting*03:26
TheEvilPhoenix:P03:27
TheEvilPhoenixread the list of punishments relating to being traitorous03:27
TheEvilPhoenix:P03:27
TheEvilPhoenixespecially decompiled03:27
sadinlol03:27
sadin:O03:27
sadinam i gonna be derezzed (heh tron joke)03:28
TheEvilPhoenixnope, just decompiled03:28
TheEvilPhoenixthen obfuscated03:28
TheEvilPhoenixand then the obfuscated code will be recompiled, and you'll be a different entity :P03:28
sadinoh noeh!03:28
sadinwell i at least be better looking :P03:28
TheEvilPhoenixand if you can't tell, i'm pretty drunk today... :P03:28
sadinlol :P im 16 and refuse to drink D:03:29
TheEvilPhoenixwell not unless the recompilation is a recompilation to a homeless due :P03:29
sadinNOOOOOO03:29
TheEvilPhoenixs/to/into/03:29
TheEvilPhoenixthankfully i dont dictate the terms of the recompile03:29
sadincompile me from source and make me ready to install :D03:30
sadin(weird)03:30
TheEvilPhoenixthat depends03:30
TheEvilPhoenixare you licensed under the GPL?03:31
sadinYUS :O its my favorite03:31
TheEvilPhoenixwhich version?03:31
TheEvilPhoenixversion 1?03:32
sadini dunno D:03:48
sadinwhich version03:48
sadinD:03:48
InHisNameEARLY good morning to all07:44
IdleOnesaying good morning before 4AM does not count09:14
IdleOneGood morning :)09:14
rmg51morning IdleOne09:16
JonathanDMorning.09:33
rmg51morning JonathanD09:41
JonathanDhowdy.09:45
rmg51I'm off to do my "storm" shopping :-D10:10
rmg51lotsa milk and eggs and extra bread10:10
rmg51and Teddy wants cookies10:11
rmg51lotsa cookies :-D10:11
JonathanDfun.10:11
rmg51always10:11
JonathanDGet at least 5 gallons of milk.10:11
JonathanDYou'll need 5 gallons. No less.10:11
rmg51maybe 610:11
JonathanDPossibly.10:11
rmg51Teddy will need something to wash all those cookies down10:12
JonathanDI bought cases of water, and beans.10:13
JonathanDI'll probably get some hot dogs and rolls today.10:13
JonathanDFor a good ol hurricane bbq.10:13
rmg51don't tell Teddy10:14
rmg51he'll want to come10:15
JonathanDyou're welcome to come. I hear it might be rainy, though.10:17
JonathanDI should announce a geeknic on sunday and see what kind of responses I get :p10:17
rmg51JonathanD:  will this be a bring your own personal flotation device geeknic? ;-)11:47
InHisNamebyofd geeknic.   Sorry building a barricade across the driveway to reduce water intrusion from flooded street.  Will need to repair it a lot all Sunday until the street empties down.13:12
InHisNameIf I don't loose power, I could type in snide remarks every couple of hours for you geeknic'ers that are connected.13:13
* waltman just had a nice pre-death storm brunch with some tasty peppered bacon I picked up at the farmers market yesterday14:16
sadinmorning guys :D14:17
TheEvilPhoenixbleh14:20
TheEvilPhoenixthis morning is bad14:20
TheEvilPhoenix>.>14:20
TheEvilPhoenixwaltman:  damn you, i wanted bacon today... but alas there is none >.>14:21
waltmanTheEvilPhoenix: It's crazy wide bacon, too. 3 slices filled my frying pan!14:21
TheEvilPhoenixi hear ya14:21
TheEvilPhoenixstill14:21
TheEvilPhoenixi'd rather be eating huge bacon than no bacon14:21
waltmanI just didn't think I'd be able to ride out the storm without bacon.14:22
TheEvilPhoenixhehe14:24
TheEvilPhoenixwhere in PA are ya?  i'm in harrisburg, so depending on your location, storm may/may not hit here :/14:24
waltmanI'm just west of Philly.14:26
TheEvilPhoenixah14:26
TheEvilPhoenixthen said storm may have hit here already14:26
TheEvilPhoenixor missed entirely14:26
TheEvilPhoenixpart of PA is under an emergency state14:26
TheEvilPhoenixs/emergency/disaster emergency/14:26
TheEvilPhoenix<TheEvilPhoenix> [08/26/11 21:13:15] http://www.pema.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt/community/governors_proclamations/4725  <--- governor of PA declared a state of disaster emergency.14:27
waltmanNo, it's still working its way up the coast. The main part of the storm isn't supposed to hit us until late tonight.14:27
TheEvilPhoenixugh14:27
TheEvilPhoenixeven here in harrisburg...14:27
TheEvilPhoenixthere's disaster preparedness going on14:27
waltmanI live in a big solid old apartment building on top of a hill. Winds might be an issue, but flooding won't be.14:28
TheEvilPhoenixheh14:29
TheEvilPhoenixi'm on a first floor apartment nearby  penn state harrisburg campus...14:29
TheEvilPhoenixits on a hill, but flooding might be an issue14:30
TheEvilPhoenixi already went to the hardware store, bought a crap ton of weather striping and huge boards14:30
TheEvilPhoenixas well as stopped by a friend's and picked up my radio scanner14:30
TheEvilPhoenixso i can listen in on police ;)14:30
TheEvilPhoenixnot to mention PEMA and FEMA14:31
waltmanHBG looked reasonably safe on the last storm tracker I saw.14:32
waltmanIt looks like it's hugging the coast. Let it slam into NYC and NE instead of Philly. :)14:33
TheEvilPhoenixlol14:33
TheEvilPhoenixwell, reasonably safe != entirely safe14:33
TheEvilPhoenixwe're supposed to get hit with the outer edge of stuff14:33
waltmanMy uncle's riding it out at his place outside of Rehoboth.14:34
TheEvilPhoenixthat's not going to be easy :P14:34
waltmanNo, but they're inland enough that they weren't in the mandatory evacuation zone.14:34
sadinim about 5min from limerick nucelear plant :P15:02
sadini had to put all out stuff in our garage in case it blows away15:03
MutantTurkeyrain rain rain rain15:17
MutantTurkeyI am prepared15:17
MutantTurkeybut should I call out of work?15:17
TheEvilPhoenixheh15:29
TheEvilPhoenixwell thankfully over here...15:29
TheEvilPhoenixi had to get furniture delivered15:29
TheEvilPhoenixit arrived yesterday15:29
TheEvilPhoenixhence all the weatherstripping for all the windows, doors, cracks, etc. on this apartment15:30
TheEvilPhoenixnot to mention the wooden boards :P15:30
InHisNameTheEvilPhoenix: izzat so's ur new furniture stays new ?15:38
TheEvilPhoenixwell15:40
TheEvilPhoenixsorta15:40
TheEvilPhoenixand so it doesnt get damaged by high winds15:40
MutantTurkeywow gnome3 really is hard to work with16:05
MutantTurkeyI can't seem to do anything without 5 or 6 clicks.16:05
MutantTurkeydoes anyone know how to change the theme?16:05
TheEvilPhoenixMutantTurkey:  its not supported yet on ubuntu16:05
TheEvilPhoenixdont people read?16:05
TheEvilPhoenix:P16:05
MutantTurkeyI don't use ubuntu...16:06
MutantTurkeydon't people ever read?16:06
TheEvilPhoenixthen you are a blasphemer :P16:06
MutantTurkeyhowso?16:06
MutantTurkeyits good ubuntu isn't using gnome3 because it's terrible.16:06
MutantTurkeyI am hankering to try out Unity though16:06
TheEvilPhoenixi heard though that gnome3 is shipping with ubuntu 11.1016:06
TheEvilPhoenixbut that's only rumor16:06
MutantTurkeywell I assume ubuntu will do the regular, ubuntu-izing of it.16:07
waltmanHands will be held. Kumbaya will be sung.16:12
sadinMutantTurkeyi have gnome3 on archlinux it sucks16:13
sadinYou change the themes by editing the gnomeshell file16:13
sadinits a .css file so webdesign knowledge comes in handy :)16:13
waltmanThat sounds very unubuntu16:13
sadini use ubuntu waltman dont worry16:13
sadini have it running on 3/4 of my computers...16:14
MutantTurkey:P16:15
MutantTurkeysadin: archlinux is the best distro evar16:16
MutantTurkeyyou know why? because gnome3 on archlinux isn't some prissy fixed up version that ubuntu gets, it's actually what gnome3 is.16:16
MutantTurkeywe are straight upstream, all we get is what the gnome3 gives us.16:16
MutantTurkeytheir product stinks without major distro hacks16:16
MutantTurkey</js>16:16
sadinMutantturkey you use arch too16:17
sadin?16:17
MutantTurkeyI only use arch...16:17
MutantTurkeyI haven't used ubuntu since like 7.1016:17
sadini only have it on my latop my 3 other desktops are running 11.04 or 10.10 ubuntu16:17
MutantTurkeysomewhere around there right jedijf? maybe it was 8.1016:17
MutantTurkeyI like alot of gnome3 things, but I hate what they took out16:18
MutantTurkeythe things they added should have been piled ontop of the gnome2 experience. they got rid of too much goodness.16:18
sadingnome3 isnt good in my opinion i use WMFS on ubunt and arch16:18
MutantTurkeyi use scrotwm16:18
MutantTurkeyand Trinity whenever I get it to compile.16:18
MutantTurkeyscrotwm is awesome, but I can't increase or decrease the non-master windows16:18
MutantTurkeyif master is vertical, I can't vertically adjust 2 non-master windows16:19
MutantTurkeybut Trinity is my favorite by far.16:19
* waltman confesses he runs debian, not ubuntu :)16:19
MutantTurkeywaltman: :P16:19
MutantTurkeyA while back I wrote a tabbed virtual terminal emulator16:22
MutantTurkeybut next what I want to do is create a server based one.16:22
MutantTurkeyso you launch the server, and whenever you execute the command, instead of launching another process it signals the server and creates a new window16:22
MutantTurkeythe server would just run in the background all day16:23
MutantTurkeyvery small footprint already16:23
MutantTurkeyI just need to work out how to do that, (probably dbus) and then handling errors from termials (if one breaks, they all do)16:23
MutantTurkeyeh?16:23
sadinwaltman thats ok because it still uses classic gnome16:38
sadini dont judge16:38
sadin:)16:38
MutantTurkeyclassic gnome = deprecated.16:38
MutantTurkeyit will suffer bitrot.16:38
sadinclassic gnome = better then gnome3 :)16:38
MutantTurkeyfor now.16:38
MutantTurkeyTrinity is the best <316:38
MutantTurkeyeverything good about kde3, up to date and with new features16:39
sadinhttp://wmfs.info16:39
sadintiling window manager for the win with endless minimalism :)16:39
waltmansadin: I don't even use gnome. I'm still on windowmaker. :)16:39
sadinwaltman lol :D16:40
waltmanI've played with xfce a few times16:40
MutantTurkeywmfs is okay16:42
MutantTurkeyit's not that minimal...16:42
MutantTurkeydwm is my favorite to be honest, and scrotwm is my perfect combination of dwm and configuration16:42
waltmanI liked a lot of xfce, but I couldn't find anything to replace the dockapps I run.16:42
MutantTurkeyxfce4.8 = gnome2.6 with less features.16:42
waltmansomeone actually wrote something to run dockapps on xfce, but it's kind of sucky.16:43
MutantTurkeyyeah :|16:43
MutantTurkeyhttp://trinitydesktop.org16:43
MutantTurkeypackages availabe for debian + ubuntu16:43
MutantTurkeyI am supposed to be in charge of getting arch packages built... but meh.16:44
InHisNameDid everyone run off to build blockades or empty out basements or something ?20:48
sadinMutantTurkey xfce is also twice as flexible for artistic customization and super fast because it uses openbox20:48
sadinim a linux custimizer so i love xfce4 and wmfs and that stuff20:48
waltmanI hate customizing. Just give me an environment that'll run xterms and a web browser and otherwise stay out of my way :)21:13
InHisName1other than u 2, everyone else must be customizing basements or blockades and too busy to type.21:17
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sadinwaltman but for alot of people its an art :)21:54
sadinand linux does custimization the best :D21:54
waltmanI actually just tried firing up xfce again. It seemed to have forgotten all my custimizations.21:55
waltmanback on wmaker :)21:55
waltmanor at least the crappy dockapp thingy did.21:55
sadinlol waltman try wmfs its great for getting work done i love tiling WMs21:56
sadini used to use the gnome-terminal21:56
sadinnow i use rxvt-unicode terminal emulator21:57
sadincause its awesome :)21:57

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