[05:05] <sunredsky> hello
[05:08] <sunredsky> I'm trying to install xubuntu on an old Dell with 128Mb Ram.  Its not going well...
[05:09] <Unit193> I wouldn't think it would go well...
[05:09] <sunredsky> Why not?
[05:09] <Unit193> What's the CPU like though?
[05:09] <sunredsky> PIII 900MHz
[05:09] <Unit193> You are using the AltCD, right?
[05:09] <sunredsky> Yes
[05:10] <sunredsky> Changed Bios to boot from CD and try to install and just get the xubuntu logo for a long time
[05:10] <sunredsky> Then the system locks up and I cant do anything but reboot
[05:12] <sunredsky> By AltCD, you mean the iso?
[05:12] <Unit193> Alternate CD, not LiveCD
[05:12] <sunredsky> Hmmm, don't know the difference.
[05:13] <Unit193> Xubuntu can't exactly run on 128, I would recommend maybe checking out Lubuntu or something smaller like that.
[05:15] <sunredsky> The docs say it will run on 128.  Am I doing something wrong?  By the way I forgot to mention that Windows ME is already installed on the system.  Do I need to uninstall first?
[05:17] <Unit193> You wouldn't need to uninstall ME first. Would you mind pointing me where it says that in the docs? As it says here http://www.xubuntu.org/get that you would need 256 for minimum
[05:21] <sunredsky> Maybe I misread it.  Sorry.  I'm just trying to get a machine running that I can learn about linux and bash.  Command line is fine, I don't need much.  Will lubuntu do the trick?
[05:25] <Unit193> I don't mean to sound harsh, but this is the Xubuntu support channel so I'll direct you to #lubuntu and give you https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu (Says on the page 128 would be slow, but usable)
[05:25] <Unit193> I've personally run it on 512M and 500MHz :P
[05:25] <sunredsky> No, I understand - you're right.  Thanks for the help.
[05:26] <Unit193> Sorry that Xubuntu won't work for you, it's great though :D
[05:26] <sunredsky> I'm off to find a distro that I can run on a 128 machine...
[05:26] <Unit193> distrowatch too :D
[05:26]  * Unit193 sleep
[07:48] <aLeSD> hi all
[07:48] <aLeSD> I am thinking in returning back to Xubuntu
[07:49] <aLeSD> but I hav a question : I am developing in Qt
[07:49] <aLeSD> is it ok ?
[07:49] <aLeSD> and is Xubuntu really faster than (K)Ubuntu ?
[07:49] <aLeSD> I am on an Atom
[08:07] <ulas> nothing to discuss ? :)
[08:24] <Sysi> aLeSD: xubuntu uses a bit less RAM
[08:25] <aLeSD> Sysi: no problem of ram here
[08:25] <aLeSD> only need fastness
[08:25] <Sysi> about Qt, you can do it as well as on any *buntu
[08:25] <Sysi> xubuntu may feel a bit snappier than unity/kde
[13:23] <xubuntu848> geil ich kann wärend der installation im irc chatten
[13:24] <xubuntu848> blabla schwafel
[13:24] <xubuntu848> :D
[13:24] <xubuntu848> *freuÜ
[13:24] <Sysi> in english actually
[13:25] <xubuntu848> wtf i can chat while the instalation of xubuntu
[13:25] <xubuntu848> blabla bla
[13:25] <xubuntu848> :D
[13:25] <xubuntu848> *joy*
[13:25] <charlie-tca> Yes, you can
[13:25] <charlie-tca> First time installing Xubuntu?
[13:26] <xubuntu848> yep, i tried ubuntu before, but the "unity" desktop is not good in my opinion :/
[13:27] <xubuntu848> then i tried kubuntu, but it stops suddenly, only restart possible
[13:27] <xubuntu848> and now xubuntu
[14:32] <anton_uno> hello
[14:38] <anton_uno> I have usb sound card and can't setup it. It only works in VLC because there is a choice of output device.
[14:43] <Sysi> install pavucontrol
 it works, thanks
[14:53] <Sysi> !yay
[16:00] <xubuntu411> dove posso chiedere aiuto?
[16:06] <xubuntu411> nessuno mi dà una mano
[16:10] <knome> !it | xubuntu411
[17:29] <stephan> hey i have installed a panel plugin via ./configure, make, sudo make install. but i can't choose the new plugin in the panel. how can i add the new plugin?
[17:40] <TheSheep> stephan: you should use the packages provided by the package manager
[17:42] <stephan> TheSheep: but i want a plugin that i cant find in there
[17:43] <TheSheep> stephan: which plugin is that?
[17:44] <stephan> TheSheep:xfce4-generic-slider
[17:45] <stephan> TheSheep: is there a reason why the ./configure, make, sudo make install commands are not working?
[17:46] <TheSheep> stephan: as that page says, you need to change the path where the plugin goes
[17:46] <TheSheep> instead of /usr/lib/xfce4/xfce4/panel-plugins it's /usr/lib/xfce4/panel/plugins in xubuntu
[17:47] <TheSheep> and instead of /usr/share/xfce4/panel-plugins it's /usr/share/xfce4/panel/plugins
[17:48] <TheSheep> or so it seems
[17:48] <TheSheep> (I'm guessing from the paths on my own system)
[17:49] <stephan> oh ok
[17:50] <TheSheep> you need to edit Makefile for that, as the author wrote
[17:51] <stephan> jap, thank you.
[20:19] <kiichiro> hey where would I find the drivers on my xubuntu and will they work with windows xp?
[20:20] <Sysi> no chance
[20:21] <Sysi> for the second and that makes first not needed I guess
[20:21] <TheSheep> kiichiro: xubuntu has all the drivers that work with it included already, and they won't work with windows
[20:21] <kiichiro> ah great now I got to go find a stupid on board nic driver,
[20:22] <kiichiro> you know they really should find a way to make it not need one, maybe have a ROM chip storing the info on it?
[20:22] <TheSheep> you can just use xubuntu instead
[20:22] <kiichiro> no since it doesn't support silverlight which I need for my online class
[20:23] <kiichiro>  and mozilla doesn't want to accept moonlight
[20:23] <TheSheep> kiichiro: ehem, http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight
[20:23] <Sysi> if you gat1GB ram, I recommend win7 instead of XP
[20:23] <Sysi> *got 1GB
[20:23] <TheSheep> kiichiro: what does that have to do with mozilla?
[20:23] <kiichiro> I don't have 7 and I've had the xp disc for awhile that's why I'm not upgrading,
[20:24] <TheSheep> also, try ##windows for windows support
[20:25] <kiichiro> gotcha, well they won't be able to help me on my linux based questions like where to find stuff etc, I know xp well
[20:25] <Sysi> lspci tells what hardware you got
[20:26] <kiichiro> mkay thanks, hate taking the computers apart just to plug a nic in for 60 seconds and have to put it back in the orignal computer and blah blah blah
[20:53] <andres-kain> hello all, you must get this question alot. How do I change the login screen?
[20:55] <andres-kain> the image only really
[20:56] <hat1> hey all.  is there a way to disable tap-to-click in xubuntu natty, without mucking about in config files?
[20:57] <TheSheep> yes
[20:57] <hat1> fantastic.  you've been a big help.
[20:57] <hat1> what is it?
[20:58] <TheSheep> !info gpointing-device-settings
[20:58] <TheSheep> just install and use that
[20:58] <charlie-tca> andres-kain: TBH, I think you are the second person I have seen wanting to do that
[20:58] <hat1> thank you.  you've been an even bigger help now.
[20:58] <TheSheep> sorry for the delay, I had to find the exact name
[20:59] <charlie-tca> !gdm
[20:59] <hat1> no worries, of course.
[20:59] <charlie-tca> andres-kain: and, I don't know if it is possible
[21:00] <andres-kain> charlie-tca: !gdm ?
[21:00] <andres-kain> is gdm some sort of program I need to install?
[21:00] <charlie-tca> gdm is what creates the login
[21:01] <charlie-tca> so, to change the login screen, you change something in gdm
[21:01] <andres-kain> I see... it is some sort of xml file?
[21:02] <TheSheep> http://maketecheasier.com/gdm2-setup-reclaim-control-of-your-login-in-ubuntu-lucid/2010/05/20
[21:02] <TheSheep> (I didn't test that myself)
[21:02] <andres-kain> thank you!
[21:03] <andres-kain> I'have seen the same link in a diferent ircchannel so must be on the right track
[21:32] <patrice> hi, i have a problem. I can't create files on my desktop
[21:33] <patrice> i can create a folder but not a file, on the desktop
[21:35] <Sysi> try in file manager
[21:35] <patrice> please, can anybody help me?
[21:35] <patrice> file manager?
[21:36] <patrice> no, i just want to be able to right click on the desktop and to create a new file
[21:36] <patrice> like normal. Like before
[21:36] <Sysi> iirc there's bug making that fail
[21:36] <Sysi> you didn't install nautilus before it started to not happen?
[21:37] <patrice> it happens since i have a problem with a mounted disk
[21:37] <patrice> i don't know why he wants to mount a disk at the os loading
[21:37] <patrice> it fails all the time
[21:37] <patrice> i had problems since that
[21:39] <patrice> what is iirc?
[21:40] <Sysi> if I remember/recall correctly
[21:40] <patrice> what?
[21:40] <Sysi> abbreviation
[21:41] <patrice> arf sorry :)
[21:41] <patrice> so why my desktop doesn't let me create a file with the contextual menu?
[21:42] <patrice> what can i do to fix that bugg?
[21:44] <num8er> hello everybody
[21:44] <num8er> please help
[21:45] <num8er> I've Dell Inspiron n5110  with  i915   and  nvidia gt 525m  vga cards. but I cannot use nvidia, I've installed proprietary drivers
[21:45] <num8er> put after restart
[21:46] <num8er> it says "No Screen"
[21:46] <Sysi> you propably have nvidia optimus system, that doesn't work in linux
[21:46] <num8er> yes
[21:46] <num8er> it's optimus
[21:46] <num8er> but why doesn't?
[21:48] <Sysi> because nvidia doesn't want to support it on linux, there are some projects for making it work but not anything really stable
[21:48] <num8er> ok
[21:48] <num8er> what is bumblebee
[21:48] <num8er> ?
[21:49] <Sysi> project to make nvidia optimus work on linux
[21:49] <num8er> so cn' you help me with installing
[21:49] <num8er> ??
[21:49] <num8er> or give me a link
[21:50] <num8er> with instructions
[21:50] <Sysi> I google as well as you propably
[21:51] <num8er> ok
[21:51] <num8er> i've found
[21:51] <num8er> ))
[21:51] <num8er> thx
[21:53] <hylian> i lost my windows decorations, please help
[21:53] <Sysi> alt F2 "xfwm4 --replace"
[21:54] <hylian> Sysi, thank you, that fixed it. I hate the indicator applet, so i was looking for a decent replecement. don't use knetworkmanager... :)
[21:55] <Sysi> nm-applet should work on notification area too
[21:56] <hylian> Sysi, i don't see that as an option in xubuntu, because they made nm-applet part of indicator applet now.
[21:57] <Sysi> they're totally separate panel applets
[21:57] <Sysi> whops, misread
[21:57] <hylian> Sysi, it doesn't show it under add panel item... i guess i'll have to do some research. thanks again for the help!
[21:57] <Sysi> remove indicator-applet, log out and back in and you should have nm-applet on your notification area
[21:58] <hylian> Sysi notification applet is greyed out... is that because indicator applet is running?
[21:58] <Sysi> no, it's because you already have it in your panel
[22:01] <hylian> you're right, it is there, but it isn't showing my network manager data...
[22:01] <hylian> i will reboot and see what happens
[22:08] <patrice> anybody can help me please?
[22:09] <hylian> Sysi, thank you. that is exactly what i wanted. works like a charm now :)
[22:10]  * hylian dances the cha-cha...
[23:24] <farchord> almost like if the update just.... turned everything upside down
[23:24] <farchord> erm sorry
[23:24] <farchord> Hey guys, got a problem and it's annoying the bejeesus out of me. I used xubuntu yesterday and it worked fine, did system updates and rebooted. Now, when I start xubuntu, I get to the desktop, but windows have no title bar, the start bar appears but disappears soon after, and I can't type anything anywhere
[23:25] <farchord> meant taskbar sorry, old windows habits die hard
[23:26] <charlie-tca> Does Alt+F2 work?
[23:27] <charlie-tca> If it does, type xfwm4 and hit enter
[23:30] <farchord> That's the thing
[23:30] <farchord> I can't type in textboxes either
[23:30] <farchord> EXCEPT in the root prompt
[23:30] <farchord> you know, where it asks you to type your administrator password
[23:31] <farchord> Or if I do CTRL+ALT+F1 to F6
[23:31] <charlie-tca> Hit Ctrl+Alt+F2, log in, type xfwm4 &
[23:31] <farchord> then I can type in console
[23:31] <farchord> but the gui's totally.... well borked
[23:31] <farchord> ok
[23:32] <farchord> ill try later, but thanks for the tip charlie