[00:00] <mindrape> ...
[00:00] <mindrape> this place is always dead.
[00:00] <urlin2u> robotti^_, you want the sdc in the bios firat read
[00:00] <robotti^_> urlin2u: what you mean? firat?
[00:00] <Free-man> first
[00:01] <urlin2u> mindrape, change your nic please this is a family friendly channel
[00:01] <robotti^_> oka
[00:01] <dmkae> urlin2u, then wubi cannot be installed on d:\?
[00:01] <mindrape> urlin2u - how is my name offensive?  http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mindrape
[00:01] <mindrape> you can /kb me if you like.
[00:01] <mindrape> my name isn't offensive and if you feel it is you are asinine.
[00:01] <BuMpIc> jose33_Spaniard, this is high for me:D i will learn it later
[00:01] <urlin2u> robotti^_, first in the bios means sdcat the top of the list.
[00:02] <qmr> yea, can everyone get over themselves?  I don't care about his name
[00:02] <robotti^_> urlin2u: Okay!
[00:02] <urlin2u> mindrape, if it has to be explained your not worth dealing with.
[00:02] <jose33_Spaniard> BuMpIc, you just have to type it, man !!
[00:02] <qmr> does anyone know how to make nautilus not have so much whitespace between image files?  it's using a HUGE amoutn of whitespace... wasted space
[00:02] <BuMpIc> jose33_Spaniard, i typed it
[00:03] <mindrape> urlin2u - then ban away if you must.  What has to be explained is your psychotic need to be overly protective.  The word rape isn't even offensive except in some contexts.  Ever heard the saying "You've been raped of your freedoms?"  Well that is how I am feeling right now... rapist.
[00:03] <jose33_Spaniard> and did you see a new directory??
[00:03] <urlin2u> robotti^_, that is the least of your problems you are missing the files I posted and having grub in the sdc mbr
[00:04] <BuMpIc> jose33_Spaniard, sht:D lokks like i typed the directory name
[00:04] <notlistening> oh it is surprising people come looking for a fight even in a help room :D
[00:04] <KNUBBIG> hey, is it possible to allow ssh login only to some users depending on the network they're from, e.g. allow some users to connect only from LAN but others from WAN and LAN?
[00:05] <bluelamp> rape (v.)   late 14c., "seize prey, take by force,"
[00:05] <jose33_Spaniard> yeah, because the directory has been created
[00:05] <urlin2u> nothingspecial, cognitive problems :)
[00:05] <Danny_Joris> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu in a Guest VM and I'm trying to get ssh and ftp access from my Host to my Guest. Do I do this using openSSH?
[00:05] <KNUBBIG> Danny_Joris: yes
[00:05] <mindrape> bluelamp - welcome to the police state of #ubuntu... thinking isn't illegal... YET.
[00:05] <BuMpIc> jose33_Spaniard, but this is how we have to run it?
[00:05] <notlistening> KNUBBIG, yes it is very possible
[00:05] <BuMpIc> jose33_Spaniard, theres no easier way?
[00:05] <rodhash> Guys.. Pls, how can I see the exact amount of memory in use by a specific process? 'ps aux' shows up just the percentage..
[00:06] <KNUBBIG> notlistening: any tutorial or somewhere to look how to achieve that?
[00:06] <jose33_Spaniard> ni, but it's the first step
[00:06] <bastidrazor> rodhash: use 'top'
[00:06] <notlistening> Danny_Joris, best not to use NAT though !!
[00:06] <jose33_Spaniard> now, enter in that directory
[00:06] <Danny_Joris> KNUBBIG: thanks. So.. I'm reading https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html . Do I install open-ssh client or open-ssh server?
[00:06] <Danny_Joris> notlistening: thanks. I'm using 2 adapters: NAT and Host-Only..
[00:06] <bastidrazor> rodhash: you can't convert percentage to an actual number?
[00:06] <KNUBBIG> Danny_Joris: on the machine you want to acces openssh-server
[00:06] <urlin2u> robotti^_, the #windows channel might be best to fix the windows problem, just a suggestion, if you don't know how. :D
[00:06] <robotti^_> urlin2u: I changed it
[00:07] <notlistening> KNUBBIG, are you planning to allow access to the WAN? You should look a RSA certificates for authentication
[00:07] <robotti^_> urlin2u: And there is no grub menu
[00:07] <jose33_Spaniard> rodhash, what about ps -ef ??
[00:07] <coz_> rodhash,  mm  maybe pmap pid    example   pmap 3724
[00:07] <KNUBBIG> notlistening: yes the machine shall have WAN access
[00:07] <robotti^_> urlin2u: problem is, that there is no grub menu
[00:07] <urlin2u> robotti^_, that is the least of your problems you are missing the files I posted and having grub in the sdc mbr
[00:07] <Newbuntu2> hello
[00:07] <robotti^_> urlin2u: should I re-install ubuntu
[00:07] <jpapertowels> ok natty live amd64 can't install grub to intel fakeraid? :(
[00:07] <Newbuntu2> I'm using the avermedia linux drivers for C038, but when I launch VLC and try to open /dev/video0, nothing happens.... can anyone help?
[00:08] <Danny_Joris> KNUBBIG: thanks. So I won't need the client? My host is Vista and I'm planning to use Putty.
[00:08] <KNUBBIG> Danny_Joris: no then you won't need the client
[00:08] <BuMpIc> bb all
[00:08] <Danny_Joris> KNUBBIG++
[00:08] <Danny_Joris> thanks
[00:08] <KNUBBIG> np
[00:08] <rodhash> Oh I found, it's RSS from 'ps aux'!!! FYI !! \o/
[00:08] <coz_> rodhash,  maybe install htop
[00:08] <urlin2u> robotti^_, no your problem is missing this in sdc1 /bootmgr /Boot/BCD,  and grub in the sdc master boot record
[00:09] <urlin2u> robotti^_, and the boot flag on sdc1
[00:09] <bluelamp> mindrape, why did you choose this term for your nick ?
[00:09] <qmr> http://i.imgur.com/STVNd.png  wtf is with whitespace?
[00:09] <robotti^_> urlin2u: should I re-install windows?
[00:09] <notlistening> KNUBBIG, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys for keys
[00:09] <KNUBBIG> notlistening: thanks
[00:09] <qmr> there is very nearly more whtiespace than images
[00:10] <urlin2u> robotti^_, no go to the #windows channel have them help you get those files in, then put grub in the sdc mbr
[00:10] <jose33_Spaniard> mindrape, why dont you explain it on a public board?? :)
[00:10] <jpapertowels> cute cat qmr
[00:10] <qmr> jpapertowels: <3
[00:10] <alex--> Can I use Ubuntu Tweak or is it dangerous?
[00:10] <urlin2u> robotti^_, a reinstall to that sdc1 partition would fix this but not really needed, unless that is easier for you.
[00:11] <bastidrazor> alex--: you can use it, yes. it makes configuring certain things easier. it is not official but is effective.
[00:11]  * bluelamp does not find mindrapes nick offensive. 
[00:11] <KNUBBIG> notlistening: if I get it right, this requires that I only log in from the same pc with the same user all the time, aight?
[00:11] <Gentoo64> alex--, its not dangerous
[00:11] <alex--> Ok
[00:11] <robotti^_> urlin2u: sdc is my primary drive. it is ssd. there is ubuntu and windows
[00:11] <alex--> System janitor was dangerous right?
[00:11] <notlistening> KNUBBIG, this is not ubuntu specific but applies to any ssh enabled machine on the WAN http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Network/SecuringSSH
[00:11] <urlin2u> alex--, not generally depends on how you use it.
[00:11] <bluelamp> mindrape, why did you choose this term for your nick ?
[00:11] <alex--> urlin2u: chaning the logo on the login page
[00:11] <bastidrazor> alex--: when you don't understand what the janitor wants to remove yes. otherwise no
[00:12] <urlin2u> alex--, any app is it is amatter of understanding
[00:12] <alex--> Ah
[00:12] <alex--> yes
[00:12] <KNUBBIG> notlistening: correct, but as the machine I want to log in to is running Ubuntu I thought I might ask here
[00:12] <Free-man> i get it, a mind rape is what police do to harrass someone who is not doing anything to earn their abuse.
[00:12] <bluelamp> why does xchat-gnome not have a user list ?
[00:12] <jose33_Spaniard> bluelamp, he explained it some minutes ago.
[00:12] <alex--> Is there any way I can download all Ubuntu wallpapers of the last years (9.04 - 11.10) ?
[00:13] <urlin2u> alex--, in 11.04 I don't thonk the login page is changeable from the tweak I can't get it to work.
[00:13] <bluelamp> oh, thanks jose33_Spaniard
[00:13] <bastidrazor> bluelamp: its a bastardization of xchat. xchat is far better
[00:13] <alex--> urlin2u: I meant the logo and the background
[00:13] <jose33_Spaniard> he's not dangerous.
[00:13] <notlistening> KNUBBIG, i was talking about the website link i gave you not your questions, your questions are just fine keep asking away
[00:14] <bluelamp> oh, thanks basti
[00:14] <KNUBBIG> notlistening: ah okay, thank you :-)
[00:14] <urlin2u> jose33_Spaniard, a narcissistic explanation and way of communicating, s the norm with that user.
[00:14] <anth0ny> ok, so I installed Python 2.7 on my Linux 10.04 system.  Is there a way to make it so that Python2.7 is the default Python used? I'm using an application framework based on Python and it's still using 2.6.  Additionally, it would be cool if typing Python took me to the Python2.7 terminal instead of the 2.6.  Any ideas?
[00:14] <robotti^_> urlin2u: I do not understand, what I have done wrong.
[00:15] <robotti^_> urlin2u: it is biggest problem
[00:15] <qmr> anth0ny: alias / symlink
[00:15] <bluelamp> i did not see it, nor did i see it in scroll back though.
[00:15] <urlin2u> robotti^_, you have a windows problem go to #windows post the script and they will help you
[00:15] <jpapertowels> creative sb titanium hd still not supported in ubuntu? :( keep getting ctxfi: Something wrong!! on boot
[00:15] <dmkae> this is dissapointing
[00:15] <dmkae> i cant get ubuntu running :(
[00:15] <Free-man> anth0ny remove older pythongs installed.
[00:15] <dmkae> with wubi
[00:16] <robotti^_> urlin2u: I removed my other windows hdd
[00:16] <bluelamp> what would be the most useful irc client for linux bastidrazor ?
[00:16] <urlin2u> robotti^_, sorry ##windows
[00:16] <robotti^_> it might be reason
[00:16] <robotti^_> ok
[00:16] <urlin2u> robotti^_, yes if it had part of the windows boot that makes sense
[00:16] <dmkae> i added the wubildr line in boot.ini
[00:16] <dmkae> is that ok?
[00:16] <Gentoo64> bluelamp, i like xchat the best
[00:17] <notlistening> seconds Gentoo64
[00:17] <anth0ny> Free-man, I've heard that's a bad idea, could break Ubuntu, no?
[00:17] <urlin2u> dmkae, hardly anybody here uses wubi, you will probably get answers in that thread if you post the boot script.
[00:17] <dmkae> how do i get the boot script, if i cant even get to ubuntu
[00:17] <Free-man> anth0ny do it properly; it's called `a clean system' :)
[00:18] <qmr> bluelamp: irssi
[00:18] <bastidrazor> bluelamp: i like irssi which is cli only. xchat for GUI
[00:18] <robotti^_> urlin2u: there was always windows boot manager and two different windows7 installations
[00:18] <robotti^_> and I removed that hdd.
[00:18] <urlin2u> dmkae, it is here, all you have to do is have a live ubuntu cd. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[00:18] <robotti^_> now I cannot boot it
[00:18] <robotti^_> okay
[00:18] <robotti^_> now I understand
[00:18] <anth0ny> Free-man, how does one do that properly?  isn't 10.04 dependent on Python 2.6?
[00:19] <triunity> test
[00:19] <ZAHH> irssi over here
[00:19] <urlin2u> robotti^_, right and it is not a ubuntu problem it is a windows one go to there channel and get it fixed.
[00:19] <Free-man> anth0ny do an upgrade instead of just an install
[00:19] <urlin2u> their
[00:19] <earl2hol23> irssi is sexy
[00:19] <Gentoo64> its gay
[00:20] <bazhang> thats enough
[00:20] <earl2hol23> me too
[00:20] <ArseneRei> Should ubuntu have an xorg config by default?
[00:20] <bazhang> ArseneRei, no
[00:20] <Gentoo64> ArseneRei, i dont think so
[00:20] <bastidrazor> ArseneRei: no but if you create one it will use it
[00:20] <notlistening> ArseneRei, depends on the version
[00:20] <earl2hol23> ahhh rape me
[00:20] <urlin2u> robotti^_, the best helpers there are dual booting linux, or know it quite well.
[00:20] <bazhang> earl2hol23, stop that
[00:21] <bazhang> !guidelines > earl2hol23
[00:21] <earl2hol23> maybe later
[00:21] <ArseneRei> Well, I'm trying to resolve a graphics driver issue with my macbook. And in the ubuntu wiki it says to set the driver in xorg.conf to intel, so I was wondering if a macbook install would.
[00:21] <ZAHH> play nice boys.
[00:21] <jose33_Spaniard> bye, everyone :)
[00:22] <bazhang> ZAHH, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:22] <earl2hol23> bazhang: dont be a jerk.
[00:22] <happygolucky> ArseneRei: I don't think xserver has an xorg.conf anymore but there is definitely an xorg channel
[00:22] <anth0ny> Free-man, so, you're talking about upgrading my OS to 11.04 or is this different?  it would just upgrade python?
[00:23] <ArseneRei> happygolucky: Alright, thanks.
[00:23] <Free-man> anth0ny not necesarily; you can upgrade just a package
[00:23] <scx> hello
[00:23] <bluelamp> yeah, this is better
[00:23] <notlistening> ArseneRei, the location of the files have changes 10.04 upwards you need to different parts of the xorg config in different files now
[00:24] <earl2hol23> I just entered one last time to say
[00:24] <earl2hol23> Fuck you bazhang
[00:24] <scx> what is equivalent of gnome-appearance-properties for gtk+3 apps?
[00:24] <earl2hol23> thats all
[00:24] <FloodBot1> earl2hol23: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:24] <urlin2u> 54321
[00:24] <scx> how to change gtk+3 style in GNOME2?
[00:25] <alex--> Where is alt + printscreen + k in ubuntu 11.04 ?
[00:26] <urlin2u> alex--, what does that do?
[00:26] <ZAHH> Well that got ugly.
[00:26] <alex--> urlin2u: logs you out
[00:27] <bastidrazor> urlin2u: alex-- it restarts X
[00:28] <alex--> It's some kind of tool that lets you logout when everyhing is broken
[00:28] <urlin2u> bastidrazor, ah thanks.
[00:28] <Perdidonline> Hi people!
[00:29] <jpapertowels> damn well im in a bit of a dilemma, my hardware is too new for ubuntu so i have to go back to windows as usual except i broke the bootloader and have no cd to restore it :|
[00:29] <Perdidonline> My name is Rafa... I'm from Brazil!!! Go Spiderrrrrr
[00:29] <alex--> Perdidonline: where the fack are you talking about?
[00:29] <desti> what hardware is too new?
[00:29] <Perdidonline> UFC-Rio kkkkk
[00:29] <urlin2u> jpapertowels, you have a live ubuntu cd
[00:29] <bazhang> Perdidonline, this is ubuntu support; have a support question?
[00:29] <alex--> jpapertowels: when did you bought your hardware?
[00:30] <Perdidonline> No... its my first time on IRC
[00:30] <jpapertowels> alex--: i bought it a month ago maybe...titanium hd soundcard, sli gtx 590 gfx, i7-990x, etc
[00:30] <Perdidonline> and my english is bad....
[00:30] <bazhang> Perdidonline, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat NOT here
[00:30] <alex--> jpapertowels: And which components don't do work?
[00:30] <alex--> Because it can't be that nothing works
[00:30] <scx> how to change style of gtk+3 application in GNOME 2?
[00:31] <Perdidonline> Ahhh ok...  sorry
[00:31] <jpapertowels> alex--:  titanium hd mainly, also my intel fakeraid doesnt work with natty though does work with oneiric
[00:31] <desti> soundcard is a creative? will never work, creative just suxx
[00:31] <urlin2u> jpapertowels, you can put lilo in the mbr it boots windows
[00:32] <jpapertowels> urlin2u: i formatted my usb drive with ubuntu live on it to put winpe on it to restore bootloader but now everything i open on ubuntu live crashes so i cant extract the winpe iso to it xD
[00:32] <alex--> Shotwell updates with nested tags, bmp support and more. You can install it by downloading it from the editors site, or add their PPA. Why isn't this new version included in 11.04 software center?
[00:33] <NS_tech> what is the command to remove a directory and its contents?   i have been using sudo rmdir -r (directory)
[00:33] <illunatic> http://blog.greenpirate.org/anonymous-persuades-gays-to-swing-the-other-way/
[00:33] <desti> rm -Rv
[00:33] <bastidrazor> NS_tech: rm -rf directory
[00:33] <alex--> illunatic: #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:33] <jpapertowels> desti: creative soundblaster hardware is great, their drivers suck, but not many soundcard manufacturer creates linux drivers anyway it would have to be the ctxfi linux driver makers that suck no offense if theyre reading this :3
[00:33] <bazhang> illunatic, dont spam here
[00:34] <alex--> NS_tech: sudo rm -R (directory) as far as I know
[00:34] <alex--> I can be mistaking, that you have to type r
[00:34] <bastidrazor> NS_tech: -r is for recursive -f is for force so that it doesn't ask you to verify every file
[00:34] <illunatic> sorry totally the wrong channel
[00:34] <illunatic> i genuinely did not mean to
[00:34] <kwtm> Does Ubuntu now have the feature where a laptop can be suspended to RAM, and then if not used within a certain amount of time (say half an hour) it then suspends to disk to save battery life?
[00:34] <dmkae> anyone here develop ?
[00:34] <illunatic> i just /win c some on irssi xD
[00:34] <illunatic> alex--: thanks tho
[00:35] <urlin2u> kwtm, never heard of one.
[00:35] <alex--> kwtm: Suspended to RAM = stand-by
[00:35] <NS_tech> thanks.  sudo rm -rf (directory) worked
[00:36] <notlistening> illunatic, grow up
[00:36] <illunatic> excuse me?
[00:36] <illunatic> #ubuntu-offtopic, sir
[00:36] <bastidrazor> NS_tech: you're welcome
[00:37] <jamiewan> NS_tech: care is needed with the rm -rf command, its very close to wiping your file system if you make a certain error
[00:37] <desti> jpapertowels, how should they make drivers, when creative doesn't give them documentation about their chips, also when you buy the card, you pay to creative and so it's their job to make drivers
[00:37] <kwtm> alex--: Not sure of your point.  For the record, I agree that suspended to RAM = stand-by.  Does Ubuntu have the feature of hibernation after a certain amount of time in standby?
[00:37] <illunatic> well if you read the whole thing it's actually a bit more baalanced than most things i write
[00:38] <alex--> kwtm: This would be a BIOS feature if it exists. As far as I know Ubuntu doesn't haves a feature like this.
[00:38] <illunatic> i'm from san francisco and definitely familiar with where the gay community is coming from on this
[00:38] <alex--> illunatic: what do you mean?
[00:38] <NS_tech> Jamiewan: what do i need to watch out for?
[00:39] <illunatic> oh sorry i guess they kicked me from offtopic
[00:39]  * illunatic shrugs
[00:39] <alex--> NS_tech: If you type / as directory, it doesn't asks you something like: are you sure?
[00:39] <jamiewan> NS_tech: well sudo rm -rf / is not a good idea, kind of completely breaks ya system
[00:39] <kwtm> alex--: Really? I have a winXP laptop dualbooting into Kubuntu, and the WinXP is able to suspend from RAM to disk, but Kubuntu 10.04 does not, which is what's preventing me from using Kubuntu for daily use.   It seems more like a OS issue than BIOS --how is the BIOS able to suspend to disk from RAM?
[00:40] <alex--> kwtm: how do you do that, suspend from ram to disk?
[00:40] <notlistening> jamiewan, Ubuntu does not allow you to do that :D
[00:40] <illunatic> i'm not sure why i was banned from offtopic, but w/e
[00:40] <notlistening> jamiemill, you have to be creative
[00:41] <jamiewan> NS_tech: nothingspecial it certainly does when i've used it,
[00:41] <kiko_> ola
[00:41] <notlistening> jamiemill, when did you last try it
[00:41] <notlistening> jamiewan, specifically on ubuntu now
[00:42] <jamiewan> notlistening: used it last week to wipe an old box running jaunty
[00:42] <kiko_> alguem fala portugue
[00:42] <alex--> kiko_: #ubuntu-pe
[00:42] <alex--> Shotwell updates with nested tags, bmp support and more. You can install it by downloading it from the editors site, or add their PPA. Why isn't this new version included in 11.04 software center?
[00:42] <bastidrazor> illunatic: did you read the topic in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[00:43] <notlistening> jamiewan, well i stand corrected then
[00:43] <coinmaster> hi, does someone know how to install libgtk2.0 on lucid ?
[00:44] <coinmaster> the aptitude method dnt work
[00:45] <notlistening> there was a period where they modifed the rm command to disallow that
[00:45] <jamiewan> nothingspecial: yeah all that was left was /dev /proc /var
[00:45] <jamiewan> sorry
[00:45] <jamiewan> notlistening: : yeah all that was left was /dev /proc /var
[00:46] <usr_> what command will let me know which devices are attached to the network where I am currently connected?
[00:46] <usr_> net
[00:47] <HeGuru> usr_ nmap & nmapfe
[00:47] <BlueEagle> usr_: Well that depends on the kind of devices, firewalls and so on. nmap would most likely fit any bill.
[00:47] <jamiewan> usr_:  nmap then your ip, but leave the last number off and put a /24
[00:47] <EzeQL> hi all
[00:48] <EzeQL> im installing ubuntu in the same hd as win7
[00:48] <BlueEagle> !enter | EzeQL
[00:48] <urlin2u> EzeQL, cool, are you familiar with partition amount lintations
[00:48] <urlin2u> limitations
[00:49] <EzeQL> i have 100G free for installating ubuntu
[00:49] <coinmaster> ezeQL: yes you can do that , ubuntu will repartition your windows7 partition
[00:49] <EzeQL> i do not want to use automatic partition
[00:49] <happygolucky> i'm finding out all sorts of useful tid bits about keyboard shortcuts in ubuntu that i never knew existed. for instance i've been use the less command to look at large documents in terminal but I could have just hit shift+page up. Interesting to me
[00:49] <urlin2u> EzeQL, how many other partitions do you have as seen from linux
[00:49] <EzeQL> two ntfs, one fat32 for sharing files between both os
[00:50] <BlueEagle> EzeQL: Linux' ntfs-support is now stable.
[00:50] <EzeQL> didnt know that, ty BlueEagle
[00:50] <blognewb> hi
[00:50] <urlin2u> EzeQL, cool if that is correct as 4 primaries is the limit the 100 gig should be a extended type, and the one inside xt4 and a swap
[00:50] <urlin2u> ones
[00:51] <urlin2u> ext4*
[00:51] <EzeQL> how much percentage of the ext4 size should be used as swap?
[00:51] <blognewb> hello.. im trying to install lubuntu.. can i still give it more space later on once i have partitioned my hd to alot 40gb for lubuntu?
[00:52] <bastidrazor> EzeQL: it should be equal to your RAM.
[00:52] <robotti^> how I can access grub menu?
[00:52] <urlin2u> EzeQL, a swap which will be inside of the extended is equal to your ram to have hibernate.
[00:52] <jamiewan> EzeQL: same as ya ram mate
[00:52] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> hi where does ff save the .flv files from youtube? before they were temporary saved in /tmp and then to .mozilla/firefox/username/cache but now they are neither in the first folder nor in the last one. where can i find them? thank u - ubuntu10.10 - ff3 - gnome
[00:52] <notlistening> 2x ram size is a good idea
[00:52] <BlueEagle> robotti^: If the grub menu does not show while booting try pressing the escape key.
[00:52] <notlistening> depends on ram size
[00:52] <urlin2u> EzeQL, the extended is a partion to put the ext type and swap in.
[00:52] <bastidrazor> robotti^: during boot? press and hold shift after POST
[00:53] <blognewb> once ive set 40gb of hd for lubuntu, can i still adjust it and expand it later on?
[00:53] <BlueEagle> robotti^: If you want to change the timeouts and such check your grub configuration
[00:53] <bastidrazor> BlueEagle: shift key
[00:53] <bastidrazor> err.. it may be ctrl..
[00:53] <urlin2u> robotti^, why are you erasing grub?
[00:54] <BlueEagle> urlin2u: is he erasing grub?
[00:54] <urlin2u> robotti^, sory not erasing, your problem is not in grub.
[00:55] <alex--> Shotwell updates with nested tags, bmp support and more. You can install it by downloading it from the editors site, or add their PPA. Why isn't this new version included in 11.04 software center?
[00:55] <urlin2u> BlueEagle, no but is searching for fixes that are not applicable, as the ones needed may not be understood.
[00:55] <BlueEagle> alex--: Because it has not been sufficiently tested in Ubuntu and signed off as stable?
[00:55] <alex--> BlueEagle: so when it's stable it goes to software center?
[00:56] <BlueEagle> The repositories are continously upgraded. Make sure you have the back ports repo active.
[00:57] <alex--> repo?
[00:57] <notlistening> Right night all
[00:57] <BlueEagle> repository
[00:57] <BlueEagle> !repositories
[00:57] <alex--> How long should it take to resize a partition from 141 GB to 110 GB ?
[00:58] <jamiewan> alex--ything from 1minute to 5: an
[00:58] <BlueEagle> alex--: It depends on the speed of the media, the file system being resized (if any) and the amount of data in the file system.
[00:58] <alex--> 96 GB used
[00:59] <alex--> Ah it's done now :)
[00:59] <BlueEagle> ...and the speed of the processor and what other processes are running, any other disk activity needs to be taken into account.
[00:59] <jamiewan> come on, a couple minutes would be accurate enuf
[00:59] <alex--> Ok
[00:59] <BlueEagle> jamiewan: It would be as pointless as the question imo. :)
[00:59] <alex--> What do you recommend for Ubuntu 11.04 install, 20 or 30 GB?
[01:00] <jamiewan> BlueEagle: true but he just wants a rough idea i think,
[01:00] <BlueEagle> alex--: Again, it would depend on the usage scenario. If you're just starting to get to know it 20GB is plenty. If you run big databases and web sites 30GB may be too little.
[01:01] <alex--> starting to know
[01:01] <alex--> I used ubuntu before, but I want to use things like shotwell now
[01:01] <BlueEagle> 20GB should be plenty.
[01:01] <alex--> Ok
[01:02] <BlueEagle> that is unles you've got more than 20GB of images you intend to use with Shotwell. ;)
[01:02] <alex--> No
[01:02] <alex--> It's not possible to create more than 4 primary partitions
[01:02] <kwtm> alex--: I'll tell you how I do it; it might help.  I assign 8GB to my Ubuntu partition, but all my data is in a separate partition which at least 100GB in size (my biggest is 1.2TB).   So I'd estimate 8GB + whatever data you need.
[01:03] <alex--> I have dual boot in a laptop with 120 gb hdd
[01:04] <kwtm> as for resizing, if you have to move a lot of data, it can take a long time.  For example, removing 31 GB from the end of the partition, if it's empty, may be fast.  Removing 31 GB from the front of the partition, and maybe having to shift almost all of the files to make room, may take "overnight".  I've done it before and it took about 5 hours.
[01:04] <Danny_Joris> I have an issue restarting openssh. I did: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart, but I get a message that I have to use 'service ssh restart'
[01:05] <Danny_Joris> but that returns an error as well..
[01:05] <blognewb> hi guys... once ive set 40gb of hd for lubuntu, can i still adjust it and expand it later on?
[01:05] <Danny_Joris> So: how do I restart openssh?
[01:05] <alex--> Danny_Joris: then do sudo service ssh restart
[01:05] <kwtm> alex--: If you know how to do it, I suggest Ubuntu itself in a smaller partition of, say, 8-10GB, then another partition of 8-10GB in case you want another OS (like the next higher version of ubuntu) and then the rest is data.
[01:05] <bazhang> blognewb, dynamically? no
[01:05] <Danny_Joris> ah
[01:05] <alex--> Danny_Joris: just like it says
[01:05] <kwtm> blognewb: Hi!  We were just talking about that in my sentence I typed right after you asked.
[01:05] <bazhang> blognewb, with a live cd or gparted live cd, yes
[01:06] <kwtm> You know, I should put that into a macro and then I would save some time. :)
[01:06] <alex--> I can't create more than 4 primary partitions. Why?
[01:06] <kwtm> alex--: That is the system that has been agreed to for disk partitions.  Nor do you need to create more than 4 partitions.  You only need 2.
[01:06] <bazhang> !partition > alex--
[01:06] <kwtm> alex--: Within a parti -- oh
[01:06] <kwtm> Can I get to know what the !partition factoid is, too?
[01:06] <blognewb> kwtm so yes? coz i still am not sure what i would install in it.. i would for sure have libreoffice, Gimp, filezilla.. lemmp
[01:06] <kwtm> !partition > kwtm
[01:06] <Danny_Joris> alex--: cool, thanks. So I'm setting up openssh on a VM. Do I need to manually start openssh every time I restart my VM?
[01:06] <urlin2u> alex--, that is the law in mbr typed drives a extended will allow a lot more logical though
[01:07] <alex--> Danny_Joris: no
[01:07] <alex--> Danny_Joris: depends actually
[01:07] <alex--> kwtm: Windows partition, boot partition, recovery partition, some other tools partition, and I want to create ubuntu partition
[01:07] <ultrixx> is reiserfs a good filesystem or should i use ext4?
[01:07] <silare> !partition > silare
[01:07] <urlin2u> alex--, 3 primaries and a extended for ubuntu is what you want
[01:08] <alex--> urlin2u: 4 primaries are then
[01:08] <alex--> How to add extended?
[01:08] <alex--> I resized my first partition
[01:08] <alex--> Now I have white space
[01:08] <kwtm> blognewb: Technically, yes you can change it.  Practically: it can take hours while your computer is unable to do anything else.  Much better to partition it the right way the first time, with spare partitions as necessary.
[01:08] <zahh> Does anyone know why Domain names wont resolve for non-root users in a chroot'd environment?
[01:08] <alex--> unallocated
[01:08] <EzeQL> what should i enter on "mount point" ?
[01:08] <zahh> I can ping google.ca as root but not as non-root user
[01:08] <zahh> the doman name doesnt resolve
[01:09] <bastidrazor> zahh: aren't you toying with android?
[01:09] <blognewb> kwtm does ubuntu come flash compatible?
[01:09] <kwtm> alex--: As I was going to say when someone jumped in with a factoid that was only directed to one person within this conversation, you only need 2 partitions: if you set the second partition as "extended", then that partition can itself contain as many other partitions as you need.  These would be logical partitions.  But primary means that there are no partitions contained inside.
[01:09] <urlin2u> alex--, a extended is done in linux gparted is the easiest, you can only have as much as 3 primaries and one extended which can have a unlimited logical type, which ubuntu wil run in with know problem
[01:09] <alex--> kwtm: I'm stuck with 'unallocated' now
[01:09] <alex--> I'm in gparted
[01:09] <alex--> How can I make extended partition?
[01:09] <kwtm> blognewb: Umm... not sure why you are asking me.  I know partitions.  I don't know flash.  In fact, I don't even use Ubuntu.
[01:10] <urlin2u> alex--, post a imagebin of a screen shot of gparted
[01:10] <alex--> Do I have to make the C:/ partition with windows bigger?
[01:10] <blognewb> why are you here? kwtm
[01:10] <bazhang> blognewb, of course you can install flash
[01:10] <kwtm> alex--: So what you want to do is replace all but the first partition (which must be primary) with logical partitions inside an extended partition.
[01:10] <EzeQL> where can i find gparted?
[01:10] <kwtm> blognewb: I am here so that I can tell people to direct their questions to everyone, not just one single person.
[01:10] <bazhang> EzeQL, on the live cd, or dl the gparted live cd
[01:10] <Sylarsoft> how to use xchat
[01:10] <urlin2u> kwtm, windows wont run in a extended
[01:11] <blognewb> ok
[01:11] <bazhang> Sylarsoft, what part of xchat
[01:11] <blognewb> how much memory does ubuntu consume on average, idle time
[01:11] <urlin2u> alex--, posta screen shot of gparted.
[01:11] <Sylarsoft> i can't connect to the server
[01:11] <kwtm> urlin2u: Are you serious?  Well, I guess that decides which OS will go into the primary partition.  That's kind of unwieldy.  It's been a long time since I've put Windows on a computer...
[01:11] <bazhang> blognewb, no one answer for that
[01:12] <alex--> urlin2u: http://imagebin.org/169924
[01:12] <dmkae> is there a way to move a wubi install to a dedicated one?
[01:12] <urlin2u> kwtm, windows is just that way, tweaks that I doubt any know here can get to run but that is real geek stuff. A shred will run though, just not the bootable OS.
[01:12] <kwtm> alex--: Can GParted switch a partition from primary to extended?   If not, then you'll have to convert one partition at a time.  If you can't spare a primary partition to erase and convert into extended, you may be out of luck.
[01:12] <bazhang> dmkae, yes there is, check the wubiguide for that
[01:12] <urlin2u> shared*
[01:12] <alex--> kwtm: I dont know, where can I check this?
[01:13] <bazhang> !wubi > dmkae
[01:13] <kwtm> alex--: You have GParted open right now -- is there an option for "change partition to extended"?  I wonder who used all 4 primaries?  That was not a very wise thing to do.
[01:13] <alex--> kwtm: HP Did
[01:13] <urlin2u> alex--, your being led astray
[01:14] <alex--> led astray?
[01:14] <kwtm> urlin2u: I guess in the past I've always had Windows computers on which I installed Linux, so I always ended up having Windows on primary, not knowing that it would mean trouble to have it any other way.
[01:14] <urlin2u> alex--, bad advice
[01:14] <alex--> So what do I have to do now?
[01:14] <urlin2u> alex--, post a screenshot of gparted would be a good start
[01:14] <EzeQL> im on the live cd
[01:14] <JoeR1> urlin2u, Well all of my attempts to recover my Linux partition have failed and I found out that my ISO of Xubuntu x64 is missing
[01:14] <urlin2u> EzeQL, gpared is on the live cd
[01:15] <urlin2u> gparted
[01:15] <kwtm> alex--: Aaaugh.  My condolences.  I've had bad experiences with their computers.  Anyway ... you may need to get rid of one partition, or consider buying a new hard disk (it might be enough of a bargain).  I wonder if you can store the entirety of one partition on another?  What were your 4 partitions again?
[01:15] <kwtm> Wait, boot partition?
[01:15] <JoeR1> urlin2u, I was too tired to remember what you recommended last night before I went to sleep
[01:15] <bazhang> kwtm, thats very poor advice
[01:15] <urlin2u> JoeR1,  don't remember exactly what you were doing.
[01:15] <urlin2u> I
[01:15] <kwtm> alex--: You have a boot partition and a separate Windows partition?  Is that necessary?  Last time I did this I was using Win2k.
[01:16] <alex--> kwtm: boot is for some bios like thing
[01:16] <kwtm> bazhang: I will defer to your expertise.
[01:16] <bazhang> kwtm, please dont comment if you have no idea of what you're saying
[01:16] <jamiewan> hmmm
[01:16] <alex--> kwtm: HP did when I bought the laptop
[01:16] <JoeR1> urlin2u, I was having trouble with the MBR on my primary partition and many attempts to rebuild it had failed
[01:16] <kwtm> bazhang: Alright, I will refrain from commenting.  I didn't realize I had no idea what I'm saying, but apparently one study showed that people who were ignorant were ignorant of their ignorance.
[01:17] <urlin2u> JoeR1, post that bootscript you ran.
[01:17] <urlin2u> kwtm, yeah I fit right in there at times,:D
[01:17] <EzeQL> well, i do not know where the apps or ocnsole is..
[01:17] <JoeR1> urlin2u, I have to see if I can one moment
[01:17] <EzeQL> did windows make me stupid? :)
[01:18] <urlin2u> EzeQL, you on the unity desktop applications is a button in the left panel
[01:18] <alex--> Anyone who can help me creating a partition for Ubuntu? http://imagebin.org/169924
[01:20] <EzeQL> urlin2u, thanks
[01:20] <urlin2u> alex--, one partion has to go, if your backed up and have a install disc I would suggest the recovery
[01:21] <urlin2u> alex--, the boot partition could go instead but you will probably have to load some files to the C partition to boot
[01:21] <alex--> urlin2u: I didn't do both
[01:21] <alex--> no backup, no installation disc
[01:22] <what> hi can anyone help me with rtl8187 usb network connection problems?
[01:22] <urlin2u> alex--, don't do anything though until we fix windows for boot after removing any partition
[01:22] <C3POwn3d_> Hello. I'm running 10 and for some reason my hard drive constantly runs. Anyone know what I could do to fix it?
[01:22] <alex--> urlin2u: may I give windows his 'space' back?
[01:22] <urlin2u> alex--, you have a recovery disc or install disc for windows?
[01:22] <FAalbers> Hello. I can't seem to open more then one terminal in 11.04. Am I overlooking something ?
[01:22] <alex--> make /dev/sda2 bigger (like it was)
[01:23] <alex--> urlin2u: no, only a recovery partition
[01:23] <alex--> FAalbers: try ctrl alt t
[01:23] <urlin2u> alex--, go back to windows, and make a recovery disc
[01:23] <alex--> urlin2u: may I give windows his 'space' back? make /dev/sda2 bigger (like it was)
[01:23] <E3D3> I just installed the latest Ubuntu Alternate and can't find Opera web-browser. How can I install it ?
[01:23] <urlin2u> alex--, sure,
[01:24] <FAalbers> alex--, That worked :) How com the icon in the sidebar doesn't do that ?
[01:24] <alex--> urlin2u: and windows can boot normally?
[01:24] <urlin2u> alex--, to install ubuntu though a partiton must go.
[01:24] <Sylarsoft> http://imagebin.org/169926
[01:24] <alex--> FAalbers: I dont know. In my opinion Unity is still beta
[01:24] <urlin2u> alex--, are you using the disk manager in windows to shrink and exspand?
[01:24] <th0r> E3D3: opera.com has a deb package for ubuntu
[01:24] <EzeQL> should i enter something on "mount point" ?
[01:24] <alex--> urlin2u: gparted on live usb
[01:25] <FAalbers> alex--, Is 11.04 called Unity ?
[01:25] <urlin2u> alex--, is it W&
[01:25] <urlin2u> W7
[01:25] <FAalbers> alex--, Or is that the name of the UI
[01:25] <alex--> FAalbers: It's using Unity.
[01:25] <alex--> FAalbers: You have GNOME and Unity (They used gnome 2.x in ubuntu 10.04, and Unity in 11.04)
[01:25] <urlin2u> alex--, is it W7?
[01:25] <alex--> urlin2u: yes
[01:26] <E3D3> EzeQL: Thanks
[01:26] <FAalbers> I see ! Thanks alex--
[01:26] <urlin2u> alex--, only use the disk manager to move the window partition in W7
[01:26] <alex--> Can I give his partition back now?
[01:26] <alex--> Because I rezised it with gparted
[01:26] <alex--> I mean: make it like it was
[01:27] <urlin2u> alex--, see if windows will boot now and expand the partition and make a recovery disc
[01:27] <urlin2u> alex--, you need to make a backup as well to be safe really.
[01:27] <alex--> urlin2u: see if windows boots first, or first make bigger?
[01:27] <alex--> urlin2u: in bigger, like: how it was before I went on ubuntu
[01:28] <alex--> So I need to start backups now?
[01:28] <alex--> urlin2u: Make partition bigger, boot windows, install backup software, go backup
[01:28] <alex--> Right?
[01:28] <urlin2u> alex--, see if windows will boot. You should only be resizing that C partition in windows with the disk manager not gparted with the disc that full.
[01:29] <alex--> So I have to leave it like this right now?
[01:29] <alex--> Are you sure?
[01:30] <urlin2u> alex--, there are unmovable parts of the W7C that gparted cares nothong about and may make the W7 unbootable, which would need a recovery disc to fix if fixable
[01:30] <EzeQL> urlin2u, whats mount point ?
[01:30] <urlin2u> EzeQL, /
[01:30] <alex--> urlin2u: I resized it with the installer
[01:30] <urlin2u> EzeQL, choose /
[01:30] <EzeQL> perfect
[01:31] <urlin2u> alex are we communicating here?
[01:31] <EzeQL> and the anothers ? ntfs drivers?
[01:31] <urlin2u> EzeQL, not sure where your at you would not touch those, are you in the something other partitioning area?
[01:31] <alex--> urlin2u: yes, but the installer is something else than gparted. I mean: bring it back like how it was before I started with Ubuntu now, or just boot windows?
[01:32] <EzeQL> yep
[01:32] <urlin2u> alex--, boot windows
[01:32] <urlin2u> EzeQL, you only need to confirm where you want ubuntu and the grub placement in that gui, and the monut for the ext4 partition=/
[01:32] <EzeQL> ihave created all partitions as you indicated me , i set mount point / on ext4 partition
[01:33] <urlin2u> EzeQL, yeah just make sure you have the ext4 as the point of install.
[01:33] <EzeQL> ok, i dont see any grub option over here..
[01:33] <alex--> urlin2u: Windows wants to check the filetype on C:/
[01:33] <alex--> dit's checking files now
[01:34] <urlin2u> EzeQL, first gui after choosing that are below screen, grub to the mbr only probably sda
[01:34] <EzeQL> ok, ty
[01:34] <alex--> it's *
[01:34] <urlin2u> EzeQL, grub is in the first gui on choosing something else below the partition screen
[01:35] <urlin2u> alex--, that is normal go ahead.
[01:35] <alex--> ok
[01:36] <urlin2u> alex--, that s what may happen when you move the windows partition from outside of windows, rather then using it's partitioner
[01:36] <alex--> urlin2u: Didnt know win7 had a partitioner
[01:36] <urlin2u> alex--, yeah a virtual one in W7 pretty cool stuff.
[01:37] <alex--> sarcasm?
[01:37] <urlin2u> no
[01:37] <urlin2u> alex--, I wish linux had that capeability.
[01:37] <alex--> urlin2u: what's the difference between gparted and win7 one?
[01:38] <urlin2u> alex--, a lot of differences, but mainly the W7 one can do it on the system while using gprated can't in this situation.
[01:39] <alex--> on the system?
[01:39] <urlin2u> alex--, gparted is graet it just does not resize a partition while using it.
[01:39] <alex--> ah
[01:40] <urlin2u> alex--, also the W7 partitioner will look at your partition and tell you how much you can shrink it safely
[01:40] <qin> urlin2u: lvm?
[01:40] <urlin2u> qin, ?
[01:40] <alex--> urlin2u: so ubuntu can learn from windows one
[01:40] <alex--> for the first time :P
[01:40] <alex--> windows is ooting now
[01:40] <urlin2u> alex--, maybe lol
[01:40] <alex--> booting
[01:41] <urlin2u> alex--, boot to admina for the disk manager
[01:41] <alex--> logged in
[01:41] <urlin2u> admin
[01:41] <alex--> admin, erm
[01:41] <alex--> how?
[01:41] <urlin2u> alex--, how many accounts do you have?
[01:41] <alex--> 1 i think
[01:41] <alex--> can't I better make backups now?
[01:42] <urlin2u> alex--, your in admin then in the search type disk man, and you will see the partitioner show.
[01:42] <bsmith093> is it normal to not have ubuntu have updates every day, i check several times a day, and there are days in a row, where theres nothing
[01:42] <anth0ny> how do you use pip-2.7 in Ubuntu?  I have pip installed but running pip-2.7 yields "pip-2.7: command not found"
[01:42] <alex--> urlin2u: what now?
[01:43] <alex--> urlin2u: i'm in partition manager
[01:43] <urlin2u> alex--, open it and right click the C partition and follow the stuff on exspanding, been awile sisnce I have done this part.
[01:44] <osmosis> should I use evolution or claws for a imap mail client?
[01:44] <alex--> expand C:/ ?
[01:44] <alex--> Why?
[01:45] <alex--> urlin2u: ^
[01:45] <urlin2u> alex C Is the one you shrunk correct?
[01:45] <Sylarsoft> my settings of xchat http://imagebin.org/169929
[01:45] <alex--> urlin2u: yes
[01:45] <urlin2u> alex--, look here http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/resize-a-partition-for-free-in-windows-vista/
[01:46] <alex--> urlin2u: I did that in ubuntu
[01:46] <alex--> Now i have empty space
[01:46] <alex--> non allocated
[01:46] <alex--> Can I create 'eenvoudig volume' on that space?
[01:46] <urlin2u> alex--, so you wanted the C partition back to its original size, but your still in the quandry of having to remove a partition to install Ubuntu unless you just do a wubi install.
[01:47] <alex--> Wait
[01:47] <alex--> Hmm
[01:47] <alex--> Can I use the non allocated part now in windows to make partition for ubuntu?
[01:47] <urlin2u> alex--, only if you remove one of the other primaries.
[01:47] <sagaci> alex--, yeah, should be able to
[01:48] <urlin2u> sagaci, no he has 4 primaries
[01:48] <sagaci> can only have 4 primary partitions
[01:48] <sagaci> ah ok
[01:48] <alex--> can i create a secondary partition for ubuntu?
[01:48] <alex--> In windows I can click 'simple volume'
[01:49] <sagaci> not if you already have 4 primaries
[01:49] <urlin2u> alex--, I have explained this many times to you are you not getting the physices of this
[01:49] <urlin2u> physics
[01:49] <Onlyodin> What about converting the disk to a GPT disk?
[01:49] <urlin2u> Onlyodin, not for ubuntu
[01:49] <alex--> I have something like this: http://www.extend-partition.com/resource/images/extend-system-partition-windows-7/delete-d-partition.gif
[01:49] <urlin2u> stupid idea as well
[01:49] <alex--> look at the black unallocated
[01:50] <alex--> urlin2u: What are the disadvantages of wubi?
[01:50] <sagaci> alex--, reduced performance
[01:51] <alex--> sagaci: how much?
[01:51] <urlin2u> alex--, not designed for long term use, only 30 gigs, and if you let a grub upadte go to the mbr it can be difficult to fix.
[01:51] <alex--> urlin2u: What do you suggest then, for long term use?
[01:51] <Onlyodin> Ubuntu has supported GPT disks since 8.04, what's wrong with using GPT?
[01:51] <urlin2u> alex--, removing a primary
[01:51] <sagaci> alex--, try installing it to a flash drive
[01:52] <alex--> sagaci: I messed a 8 gb usb stick up with that
[01:52] <urlin2u> or a flash is good
[01:53] <urlin2u> Onlyodin, yeah yeah, but we are trying to help someone that can't understand some basic stuff here a gpt;is a gpt rwally a good idea here?
[01:54] <urlin2u> Onlyodin, besides gpt was not asked for, and is just your idea.
[01:54] <Onlyodin> I would have thought converting the disk to GPT would be the simplest way to go forward, but it's only a suggestion.
[01:55] <Onlyodin> GPT would allow the user to create a new primary partition without deleting any of the existing partitions. Isn't that what the user is asking for?
[01:55] <urlin2u> Onlyodin, a extended partion would hold a unlimited amout of NTFS shared and any linux now you tell me
[01:55] <Onlyodin> Yeah it would, but it also requires deleting the partition in order to replace it.
[01:55] <alex--> Can I change 1 primary partition in a secondary one?
[01:56] <urlin2u> Onlyodin, this channel is not for gpt it is a ubuntu channel I have never seen anybody but you suggest it, and y9our just muddying up a sistuation you have nothing to do with do you know the definition of boundaries.
[01:57] <qin> Sweet.
[01:58] <urlin2u> alex--, you can delete one and make a extended. What your suggesting, s an attempt to save dat?
[01:58] <urlin2u> is/data
[01:58] <alex--> urlin2u: I will start making my backups now
[01:59] <Onlyodin> I do, and I also know the definition of simple, a concept that you seem to be ignoring.  Anyway, it was only a suggestion, there's no need to arc up and start flaming me for no good reason.
[01:59] <alex--> So I can recover whole disk
[01:59] <alex--> When something goes wrong
[01:59] <urlin2u> alex--, cool make the recovery disc that is a very needed tool
[01:59] <alex--> I dont have cd's
[02:00] <urlin2u> Onlyodin, stop arguing you made suggestion, the user is not interested let it go.
[02:00] <alex--> Onlyodin: I dont have the experience for the GPT
[02:01] <owen1> how to enable middle click on macbook touchpad?
[02:01] <urlin2u> alex--, that recovery disc is very important, it will get yo to the recovery area if needed, for example to reinstall the backup.
[02:01] <alex--> urlin2u: no, my bios has some kind of boot to go to recovery partition
[02:03] <urlin2u> alex--, if your windows is damaged enough you wont get there, you will need  a bootable recovery or install disc
[02:03] <luigi> Okay, my ubuntu server running 11.04 is incorrectly getting both an auto ipv6 address and using my static ipv6 I've defined in /etc/network/interfaces. How do I disable stateless ipv6?
[02:03] <alex--> urlin2u: windows is on another partition
[02:03] <ar4more> hey i just installed linux im new to it
[02:03] <alex--> ar4more: ok
[02:04] <urlin2u> alex--, this is having the right tools for the job MS says the first thing you should do is make a recovery and a backup.
[02:04] <urlin2u> recovery disc
[02:05] <urlin2u> alex--, http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/products/features/backup-and-restore
[02:05] <alex--> urlin2u: I have backup software :)
[02:07] <urlin2u> alex--, okay do you have a recovery disc I can't explain this any better. For example lets say you want the MS boot back in the mbr, you eed a recovery or install disc for that.
[02:08] <Polah> ar4more: We can probably answer most questions you may have.
[02:08] <urlin2u> alex--, go ahead and disregard this for the cost of a 25 cent cd, and lose the windows, it is possible that this could happen.
[02:08] <alex--> urlin2u: 3 dvd's
[02:09] <urlin2u> alex--, the backup discs wont boot as the recovery does.
[02:09] <alex--> what do you mean?
[02:09] <urlin2u> alex--, anyway I see that this is a waste of time trying to help top be honest.
[02:12] <Cert> Hello.. I have issues regarding an Ubuntu install.
[02:12] <Cert> I get an xconf error, I have already tried changing the permissions for the appropriate folders
[02:12] <Cert> No dice. '
[02:13] <Cert> Any ideas what could be the issue?
[02:13] <webserver> how to use grub4dos direction ubuntu.
[02:15] <archuser> can someone help? gdm wont start im getting this error http://pastebin.com/3qadLM8h
[02:16] <usr13> archuser: Looks like a failed install?
[02:17] <archuser> usr13: so you think reinstall gdm or dbus
[02:18] <usr13> archuser: I don't know really...
[02:19] <iluminator101> does ubuntu netbook edition support snapdragon processors
[02:20] <urlin2u> iluminator101, which version of netbook edition do you mean?
[02:21] <qin> archuser: Did you remove cnosole-kit-daemon?
[02:21] <iluminator101> ubuntu 11.10 netboot edition more specially the the hp touchpad
[02:21] <archuser> qin: no
[02:21] <Polah> iluminator101, 11.01 has no netbook edition. It's also not stable yet.
[02:22] <qin> archuser: Does xinit works?
[02:22] <skim1776> how can I resolve problem with ATSC A/52 codec missing?
[02:23] <iluminator101>  i mean the general edition 11.10 in development
[02:24] <archuser> qin: yes
[02:24] <archuser> qin: i can start it with startx
[02:25] <Polah> iluminator101: I imagine snapdragon processors are supported through some kernel additions  if not natively
[02:25] <urlin2u> iluminator101, you thinking of getting the HP touch pad?
[02:26] <iluminator101> urlin2u, i have one
[02:27] <urlin2u> iluminator101, ah I think Polah is correct it is a newer processor I think, so the web may be your source of info really.
[02:27] <urlin2u> another source anyway :D iluminator101
[02:29] <rosstaylor> i am unable to access synaptic package manager, ": dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. ". please help
[02:29] <Polah> rosstaylor, have you tried running that command?
[02:30] <rosstaylor> polah: one sec please
[02:30] <rosstaylor> polah: lol i type the wrong thing in
[02:30] <qin> archuser: And startx do not produce errs? Does failsafe booting (or restarting gdm) give any clues, since this looks like gdm cannot start properly, so it looks like dbus.
[02:30] <rosstaylor> does anyone here have experience using lifenet?
[02:31] <urlin2u> rosstaylor, lifenet health?
[02:32] <urlin2u> crisis line rosstaylor
[02:32] <rosstaylor> urlin2u: lifenet for communicating when the network is down
[02:33] <rosstaylor> urlin2u: i have recently encountered this due to the fact that the hurricane caused the cell network to be down and such
[02:33] <rosstaylor> urlin2u: lifenet appears to be functioning in times of crisis
[02:33] <rosstaylor> so i was wondering if anyone has any experience using it
[02:34] <urlin2u> rosstaylor, you okay though, not really a ubuntu topic, but we would be concerned for you safety.
[02:34] <rosstaylor> urlin2u: ok - are there other ways to communicate (ubuntu software?) when the infrastructure is down?
[02:35] <urlin2u> rosstaylor, not without internet.
[02:35] <RA_drc> hello, why do my arrow keys in ubuntu work as navigation keys instead of cursor keys
[02:36] <rosstaylor> urlin2u: that earthquake was super scary, i couldn't contact anyone, so I was thinking about coming up with a back-up plan
[02:36] <dooglus> recently I've been having to re-type my ssh passphrase every time I log in to a remote host
[02:36] <dooglus> previously I'd type it once, and it would work until I rebooted
[02:36] <urlin2u> rosstaylor, sound like a good idea, you might check with the people who do that.
[02:36] <dooglus> what have I missed up, and how can I fix it?
[02:37] <photon> I just formatted a 3TB drive with mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb ... and it took just 10 seconds in 11.04, while the same command took almost an hour in 10.04. How come? What changed?
[02:37] <Langly> they added furries
[02:37] <urlin2u> rosstaylor,  we like to communicate on the channel, so we can all contribute. :D
[02:37] <RT1Y45> hello
[02:38] <RT1Y45> is there any tool to debug programs that start in ubuntu?
[02:38] <kuchiku> anyone here part of the  ubuntu development  team ?
[02:38] <qin> photon: Was it a clean hd?
[02:38] <photon> qin: what do you mean, clean? it was new...
[02:38] <alex--> Who can I contact if I want some changes in Ubuntu
[02:38] <aeon-ltd>  /j ubuntu-dev
[02:39] <urlin2u> photon, must be a miracle.
[02:39] <photon> urlin2u: I'm worried the formatting didn't work correctly.
[02:40] <qin> photon: Propably 11.04 just wrote partition table (since hd was empty tere is nothing to check or overwrite), then 10.04 have seen partiton table and had to "reformat" it.
[02:40] <kuchiku> i think ubuntu should join forces with android to make a better os
[02:40] <urlin2u> photon, look at the drive with a gui parttioner.
[02:41] <qin> kuchiku: Ubuntu is better os.
[02:43] <kuchiku> android is more user friendly and also google has all the resources to make it better
[02:43] <scx> which GPU is better choice for Linux:
[02:43] <luigi> Intel
[02:43] <scx> a) Intel GMA HD 3000 GPU
[02:43] <luigi> Intel
[02:43] <mgj> Ubuntu is for PC's. Android is for phones. Why the hell are you comparing the two?
[02:43] <scx> b) Nvidia GeForce 320M
[02:43] <luigi> scx: Intel. Always intel.
[02:43] <scx> c) NVIDIA GeForce 9400M?
[02:43] <luigi> scx: See previous messages.
[02:43] <scx> luigi: why Intel? why not Nvidia?
[02:44] <urlin2u> kuchiku, I think ubuntu should make me coffee in the morning, lite my cig, and pay all my bills independently
[02:44] <luigi> Intel has superb kernel support. nVidia has proprietary drivers that can be awful with certain cards and can have erratic issues.
[02:44] <urlin2u> kuchiku, do yu know how wealthy the main man at Ubuntu is?
[02:45] <kuchiku> mgj , hehehe , android now on tablet pc
[02:45] <luigi> scx: intel supports linux as a real OS. nvidia support linux as a pet project.
[02:45] <luigi> scx: ATI supports linux as a joke.
[02:45] <mgj> Ubuntu is for PC's. Android is for phones/tablets. Why the hell are you comparing the two?
[02:45] <qin> luigi: Neat.
[02:46] <scx> luigi: what about VIA/S3G or PowerVR?
[02:46] <RA_drc> hello, why do my arrow keys in ubuntu work as navigation keys instead of cursor keys
[02:47] <qin> mgj: Half of my life spending, removing dust and crap from screen, would need to go nuts to use tablet.
[02:48] <urlin2u> mmmm greasy screen
[02:48] <scx> mgj: i think, that GNOME 3/Unity was created for tablets
[02:48] <scx> like Android 3
[02:48] <kuchiku> mgj , android is a tablet pc os and i'm not comparing the two
[02:48] <mgj> I think it was made as an experiment to see just how much you can abuse your users before they run away
[02:49] <qin> mgj: Haha.
[02:49] <dooglus> recently I've been having to re-type my ssh passphrase every time I log in to a remote host
[02:49] <dooglus> previously I'd type it once, and it would work until I rebooted
[02:49] <dooglus> what have I missed up, and how can I fix it?
[02:49] <luigi> scx: VIA is okay, but really intel is the best choice.
[02:49] <luigi> scx: Intel is one of the few companies that writes good linux drivers in parallel with other platforms.
[02:49] <mgj> kuchiku, you said that ubuntu and android should join forces to create THE ULTIMATE OS. Which, honestly, is retarded
[02:50] <urlin2u> RA_drc, there are other options for those key, I doubt any one here cares to be honest.
[02:50] <bazhang> !ot mgj kuchiku
[02:50] <bazhang> mgj kuchiku #ubuntu-offtopic for this please
[02:54] <Saeid> how can I change my brightness of lcd in lxde ?
[02:55] <Langly> manually dialate your pupils
[02:55] <qin> dooglus: It sound like keyring, did you change your user password?
[02:55] <kuchiku> mgj , you might be the most intelligent person in this planet but  idiots in google thought that android might replace the ubuntu you using on your pc
[02:56] <qin> kuchiku: Not really true.
[02:56] <mgj> You give me way more credit than i deserve, but lets not take this further
[02:56]  * mgj is scared of the moderators
[02:56] <qin> kuchiku: And off-topic
[02:56] <Chris_0076> hey, I was wondering why my gnome-panel was taking up 100% cpu, any thoughts? (just upgraded to 11.04 about 2 days ago)
[02:57] <Chris_0076> also this last time I logged in 4 process of it were spawned
[02:57] <qin> Chris_0076: Are you using Classic or unity.
[02:57] <Chris_0076> classic
[02:58] <Chris_0076> I tried unity but I just cant get used to it
[02:58] <qin> Chris_0076: First try: gnime-panel --replace
[02:58] <qin> *gnome-panel
[02:58] <RA_drc> urlin2u: thanks for your help
[02:58] <RA_drc> hello, why do my arrow keys in ubuntu work as navigation keys instead of cursor keys
[02:58] <dooglus> qin: sorry for the delay - I was rebooting to see how ssh-agent usually gets started, and what's happening in my case
[02:58] <Saeid> hi , How do I adjust my brightness  on my  lcd (lxde) ?
[02:58] <Chris_0076> qin, ok, now what?
[02:59] <dooglus> qin: it turns out that the xinitrc file is running 'ssh-agent -s' as normal, and it's setting SSH_AGENT_PID and SSH_AUTH_SOCK in my environment, as it could, but by the time I get to run a terminal, the ssh-agent process has died
[02:59] <qin> RA_drc: In what application?
[02:59] <qin> Chris_0076: check in htop what it does now.
[02:59] <dooglus> qin: at the moment, for example, I see "SSH_AGENT_PID=1866" in my environment, but there is no process with ID 1866
[02:59] <dooglus> qin: if I run 'ssh-agent -s', the ssh-agent process dies instantly
[03:00] <Chris_0076> 0% cpu now
[03:00] <Chris_0076> ^^
[03:01] <Chris_0076> well... um that was not a good idea
[03:01] <Chris_0076> I closed the terminal that i typed gnome-panel --replace in and now it is all gone >.>
[03:02] <qin> Chris_0076: Atl-F2 and command
[03:02] <Chris_0076> nothing pops up
[03:02] <qin> dooglus: does it leave anything in logs?#
[03:02] <qin> Chris_0076: Alt-F2 and gnome-panel --replace
[03:02] <dooglus> qin: which logfile should I look at?
[03:03] <Raweed> hey im trying to install ubuntu onto an external hdd, i have created 3 partions, of size 30gb(/), 8gb(RAMx1/2) and 160(/Home). they are ext4 types. Does it matter that there is 750gb ntfs type which i want to use for other files from windows? and if not where do i install ubuntu (on /, /home or RAMx1/2) and what do i put as "device for boot loafer installation"? thanks in advance
[03:03] <qin> dooglus: messages and syslog
[03:03] <qin> dooglus: just grep ssh
[03:03] <dooglus> qin: interesting.  /var/log/auth.log: Aug 27 20:03:16 localhost ssh-agent[2754]: error: setrlimit RLIMIT_CORE: Operation not permitted
[03:04] <dooglus> qin: if I run 'ssh-agent -d', it works fine
[03:04] <dooglus> qin: but that's no use for automated setup, 'cos I have to copy/paste the SSH_AUTH_SOCK into each terminal
[03:04] <Chris_0076> ok, thank you very much qin. ^^
[03:04] <RA_drc> qin: firefox
[03:04] <Chris_0076> it seems to be ok now
[03:05] <qin> dooglus: This err is interesting...
[03:06] <dooglus> qin: I found this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=675111
[03:06] <dooglus> qin: they say it's a kernel bug
[03:06] <dooglus> qin: could it be my kernel is too old?
[03:06] <dooglus> I have Linux vikki-old 2.6.37-12-generic-pae #26-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jan 5 19:00:12 UTC 2011 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
[03:07] <dooglus> oh, I remember - all 2.6.38 kernels cause this laptop to freeze regularly, so I use the newest 2.6.37 one
[03:08] <qin> dooglus: Same kernel and bug filled for red hat
[03:08] <Raweed> can ANYONE help?
[03:08] <dooglus> qin: thanks for the help!  this is the 3rd time I've tried to get help with the problem and you're the first to point me at looking at the logs :)
[03:09] <qin> dooglus: update is good idea, but there seems to be no bug for ubuntu, fance filling one?
[03:09] <ruffleS> hi there guys.. i can't create a live usb of oneiric from windows, i've tried unetbootin and also extracting .iso files into the usb flash disk using winrar but i got no luck. can anyone help me out with this?
[03:09] <qin> *fancy
[03:11] <qin> Raweed: ntfs do not matter, make sure to install grub in external hd not main one, anyway bast to remove (or power off) internal hd for installation
[03:12] <djmaster> so im trying to do terminal coding for colors how?
[03:13] <bao__> hello
[03:13] <Raweed> qin: yes but there are 3 partitions which one do i select, or do i just select the whole thing? kinda of a newbie. and what do i select for boot loader installation, ? and how do i turn of internal hd?
[03:13] <qin> djmaster: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/colorizing.html
[03:13] <djmaster> qin thx
[03:13] <qin> Raweed: Same one where is / and /boot
[03:13] <ruffleS> can anyone help me create a (oneiric daily build) live usb from windows? unetbootin ain't working and extracting files into the USB flash drive doesn't work either
[03:14] <Raweed> win: thanks and i select the whole hd for the installation not just a single partition?
[03:15] <hope> Una pregunta..??
[03:15] <wildbat> Raweed: when the installer ask you where to install pick manual. there will be a list of partition ~ select the 30GB and pick ext4, format. use as /, the 8GB linux swap, the rest /home ext4
[03:15] <ruffleS> !es hope
[03:15] <dooglus> qin: I've been updating regularly.  I just put a line in the grub config to always boot into the old kernel
[03:15] <qin> ruffleS: Not sure thisis supported here on in #ubuntu+1, as far as i know you need specific files form working M$ system to create live-usb. but #windows will be better help.
[03:15] <hope> Instale el aMule pero no veo donde descarga los archivos , ni tampoco localizo los temporales ,, alguien me puede audar
[03:16] <dooglus> qin: I've booted into the newest kernel now, and ssh-agent is running, so that was the problem
[03:16] <ruffleS> hope vete a #ubuntu-es
[03:16] <hope> ok gracias..!!
[03:16] <RA_drc> qin: why do my arrow keys in firefox work as navigation keys instead of cursor keys
[03:16] <james_> my flash64 is driving me crazy...it keeps stopping even thought ive just done speedtest and got 4meg..can any1 tell me how to fix it?
[03:16] <qin> Raweed: No! manual partitioning
[03:16] <ruffleS> hope de nada, compadre. suerte!
[03:16] <ruffleS> qin thanks
[03:16] <qin> RA_drc: Right, not really use firefox.
[03:16] <dooglus> qin: now I'll wait and see if this new kernel freezes.  I've not bothered reporting a bug because it would be too vague to be worth doing.  "this laptop freezes after a random amount of time if I use any 2.6.38 kernel" - what's anyone going to do with that?
[03:17] <RA_drc> qin: thanks anyways
[03:17] <Raweed> wildbat: your here! im saved! but its not asking me where to install each part just giving me a list of partitions etc and one button INSTALL NOW
[03:17] <urlin2u> Raweed, check the md5sum of the ISO  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM   and try this loader.  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[03:17] <djmaster> im running gnome 3 help
[03:18] <bazhang> djmaster, not supported here
[03:18] <bazhang> !gnome3 > djmaster
[03:18] <wildbat> Raweed: yes, just select the partition and format as i mention accordingly .
[03:18] <djmaster> ubottu,  ?
[03:18] <bazhang> !gnome3 | djmaster
[03:19] <ruffleS> hope aqui en #ubuntu se habla solamente inglés
[03:20] <djmaster> gnome 3 help>?
[03:20] <bazhang> djmaster, please dont ask, it's not supported here.
[03:20] <djmaster> what?
[03:21] <Tech-1> i don't think many will lke gnome 3,
[03:21] <Tech-1> its still in infancy
[03:21] <djmaster> i dont
[03:21] <djmaster> i have full
[03:22] <bazhang> djmaster, please stop asking; it's NOT supported here
[03:22] <djmaster> bazhang,  NO
[03:22] <Tech-1> its gnomes version of kde, they should (like trovalds said) leave gnome 2 alone
[03:22] <qin> dooglus: Thats creepy to got into such bugs, but still good to report, since there maybe fix (or at least hope). This remind me to propose in launchpad "crash test" tools.
[03:23] <djmaster> Tech-1, ya i know in  runing joli cloud 1.3 and i went back
[03:23] <dooglus> qin: it's been many months since I put that in the grub config.  maybe 2.6.38 kernels work for me now.
[03:25] <slashroot> where can i find info on installing ydl to a ps3 via usb
[03:25] <bazhang> slashroot, on the ydl support forums
[03:25] <bazhang> !alis | slashroot
[03:26] <djmaster> IS BAZHANG REAL
[03:27] <qin> djmaster: casp, mate.
[03:29] <Soundwave> TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[03:31] <MrWilly> so I'm having some trouble installing 10.04 32-bit.  it boots the CD, goes to the nifty loading screen with the blinking dots, and then locks up completely, necessitating a reboot.  is there any way to eliminate that pretty screen so I can see what's actually happening when it locks?
[03:31] <chavo> MrWilly: hit F1
[03:31] <MrWilly> chavo, lemme give that a shot
[03:31] <centHOGG> MrWilly: also your hw could be elderly
[03:36] <MrWilly> centHOGG, I'm quite certain the hardware's supported.  it's had 10.04 on it before
[03:36] <centHOGG> k
[03:36] <MrWilly> so this is most interesting
[03:36] <centHOGG> MrWilly: any peripherals hanging you up?
[03:36] <MrWilly> after hitting F1 to see what's going on, it got to the point where it "locks."  what I actually see is some repeated text scrolling past the screen over and over, so quickly that I can't read it
[03:37] <MrWilly> centHOGG, only things connected are a keyboard, monitor, USB mouse and the wireless NIC
[03:37] <centHOGG> hmm... idk
[03:37] <qin> MrWilly: Remove last one
[03:37] <MrWilly> yeah, weird
[03:37] <MrWilly> qin, pain in the butt, but I can do that
[03:38] <MrWilly> the text I'm seeing starts [  72.280012] followed by what looks to be a memory address, but the text after that is unreadable due to the speed of the scrolling
[03:41] <qin> MrWilly: btw, did you try ScrLk?
[03:45] <MrWilly> well hot damn
[03:46] <MrWilly> removing the wireless NIC did it
[03:46] <MrWilly> qin, good call on that.  I should've known better
[03:46] <qin> MrWilly: Tease me now. ;)
[03:46] <MrWilly> qin, I meant removing the nic was a pain in the butt, not that you were :D
[03:47] <qin> MrWilly: Rofl.
[03:47] <MrWilly> qin, you're my savior.  I was trying all kinds of crazy stuff that I vaguely remembered from linux installs long past, but I completely missed that one
[03:48] <nickman101> anyone wanna do a g+ hangout?
[03:48] <centHOGG> nickman101: no homo
[03:48] <qin> nickman101: Do they support elinks?
[03:49] <zenmaster> So here is a funny question. I finally got my little development machine going. And I want to do some flash applications. More specifically for my recording studio.
[03:49] <nickman101> elinks?
[03:49] <zenmaster> So what is a good Flash Development IDE GUI for linux? From my exhaustive research on google sounds like none.
[03:49] <qin> nickman101: Browser
[03:49] <zenmaster> So does this leave me with a virtual box windows install for my flash apps?
[03:50] <nickman101> i don't get what you're trying to say, qin
[03:50] <qin> zenmaster: Animations: synfig, some claim that blender too, there was rumour of gimp extention.
[03:50] <hatter> how do i install aufs module on natty ?
[03:50] <zenmaster> Yeah, that is gay. :*(
[03:50] <luite> zenmaster: hmm, I think your options are limited, there are actionscript compilers, libraries to generate flash for serveral languages
[03:50] <zenmaster> Err annoying excuse me.
[03:51] <nickman101> man, i never seen you guys before
[03:51] <luite> zenmaster: but no integrated authoring environment like adobe flash
[03:51] <qin> nickman101: That if g+ do not support brower i am using, then no honey.
[03:51] <zenmaster> luite: That is what I seem to be finding, but nothing really like what I would like to do like when I was in Windows. I guess my video editing machine is going to have to do it.
[03:51] <nickman101> o i see what you mean
[03:51] <zenmaster> luite: Thank you. :D
[03:52] <nickman101> i was just asking if anyone wanted to start a video chat in general
[03:52] <luite> zenmaster: flash support in linux isn't terribly great anyway, high cpu usage ,unstable
[03:52] <luite> flash player that is
[03:52] <qin> zenmaster: Apparently cs3 get some good feedback in winehq.
[03:52] <nickman101> i only got a ffc on my phone, no webcam :(
[03:52] <MagicJ> i have a parallel printer running on a usb converter.  can open and out put to it well.  configured it for lp, it acceprs jobs but they dont actually print - they just stay in the queue - what am i missing
[03:52] <zenmaster> Yeah I am framiliar with that.
[03:52] <zenmaster> Thank you for the support ubuntu.
[03:52] <zenmaster> One more question.
[03:53] <urlin2u> zenmaster, what do you mean by that is gay?
[03:53] <zenmaster> What is the best web based mail sweet easiest to setup for my linux machine.
[03:53] <qin> zenmaster: php_mail
[03:53] <luite> gmail ;)
[03:53] <zenmaster> urlin2u: I thought lame like a raw bundle of sticks. Not treated like precut wood. Incoherrent analogy.
[03:53] <luigi> gmail++
[03:53] <qin> zenmaster: Also, you could ditch idea of using abobe and try jquery.
[03:53] <zenmaster> Well I used to use squirell mail and qmail.
[03:54] <urlin2u> zendeavor, lol
[03:54] <zenmaster> qin: That would be a new avenue.
[03:54] <luite> I use roundcube, which works ok, but gmail is much better
[03:54] <zenmaster> Few little flash things for a site that I am developing.
[03:54] <zenmaster> But I just got our domain name, and would like to handle our own e-mail.
[03:55] <luite> handling own email is a pain imho
[03:55] <zenmaster> Last version of linux I ran was Slakware 4.0 then 7.0 then I went to BSD.
[03:55] <zenmaster> luite: Yes it is.
[03:57] <EzeQL> is nvdidia 525m usable?
[03:59] <Saeid> how can I change my brightness of lcd in lxde ?
[04:00] <blognewb> hi, is it safe to assume that linux is a positive outcome of socialism?
[04:00] <centHOGG> linux = servers
[04:00] <centHOGG> linux != socialism
[04:01] <koruptid> running 11.10 A3 and ran into a rather interesting issue... after installing a few packages (including lightdm) on login my account no longer loads unity correctly. I reinstalled gdm as default but it did not fix the issue... anyone else run ingo this? (on login all I get it the nautilis file browser menu and that's it.)
[04:02] <qwaz> please do not brings politics into this
[04:02] <koruptid> also, where in the hell are the options to set font styles/sizes in 11.10?
[04:04] <jasongriffee> can someone tell me how to remove the ubuntu logo (entirely, not replaced) and the computer name taken off the login window? 11.04
[04:05] <centHOGG> install windows
[04:05] <ruler501> when I try to login I type in my password and then it asks me for my ssh passphrase. If I type it in correctly it goes to the login page if I type it in incorrectly It says incorrect passphrase please try again. How can I get into my system?
[04:05] <jasongriffee> centHOGG: har har, no really
[04:06] <koruptid> ugh... why do I have the feeling I'm dead end / reinstall... again.
[04:08] <luigi> Does Ubuntu just ignore /etc/sysctl.conf? Because nothing I set there is recognized.
[04:09] <[deXter]> Hi all; fresh install of 11.04; Installed the nvidia drivers and rebooted, now there is not display. I can't even get to the GRUB boot menu (by pressing Shift / Esc). The monitor immediately goes "out of range". I've tried connecting it to the TV (which supports way higher resolutions btw) but even it says "Unsupported signal)
[04:09] <[deXter]> s/not/no
[04:09] <zendeavor> chroot into it ftw, change grub config to 800x600x16 video mode
[04:11] <[deXter]> zendeavor: Thanks, will try it now
[04:12] <zendeavor> i can't imagine there's any monitor which doesn't support that
[04:12] <usr_> is it possible to make a pc with ubuntu "appear" as an ftp server on a LAN?
[04:13] <EzeQL> how can i install nvidia optimus drivers on ubuntu 11.04
[04:14] <XDS2010_> sup
[04:14] <nickman101> sup
[04:15] <amh345> quick question.  im new to cron jobs.   if i have a cron run every minute and echo "hello
[04:15] <amh345> '
[04:15] <amh345> where do i see the echo?
[04:15] <XDS2010_> where can i get a good weather app for ubu?
[04:15] <amh345> sorry for the split lin there.  twitchy finger.
[04:15] <XDS2010_> something that can track irene?
[04:16] <qin> amh345: you need to either write it to file or send to tty
[04:16] <qin> XDS2010_: Web browser
[04:16] <XDS2010_> hell im even thinking of changing my hotspots name to IRENE and opening them up :P
[04:17] <urlin2u> XDS2010_, weather for Natty?
[04:17] <nehi> hello. i'm facing this window saying "low disk space". I have a screenshot of this, what can I do to show it here to get some help?
[04:18] <qwaz> zendeavor: what does chroot do. I looked it up but I still dont understand
[04:18] <qin> nehi: In terminal: df -h and paste in paste.ubuntu.com
[04:18] <nehi> qin: tnx
[04:18] <urlin2u> XDS2010_, her amongst other websites are links to app applets for natty   http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/05/10-useful-application-indicators-for.html
[04:18] <JamezQ> qwaz: chroot changes what programs think the root of your drive is
[04:19] <XDS2010_> COOL thanks urlin2u !
[04:19] <JamezQ> qwaz: programs and the shell, T
[04:19] <JamezQ> qwaz: The root of your drive is where everything starts it is the "/"
[04:19] <qin> nehi: Also in terminal: sudo du -ls /* (this may take some time to complete)
[04:19] <urlin2u> XDS2010_, no problem, wegud8 has some as well
[04:19] <urlin2u> webud8
[04:19] <zulax> is htaccess protection enough to drive away search bots and other unauthenticated users?
[04:20] <qin> zulax: use robot.txt for it.
[04:20] <centHOGG> spossed to be
[04:20] <zulax> ok qin
[04:20] <qwaz> JamezQ: Ah i see thanks. Can you use it in an example now please :P
[04:20] <nehi> qin: this is the url for the first one
[04:20] <daniel> could anybody recommend a good ubuntu linux book for people who just want to use it for personal use.  Do not want to program in it or host a linux server
[04:20] <nehi> qin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/676351/
[04:21] <dumptruckman> argh
[04:21] <JamezQ> qwaz: So if I am in, /home/qwaz/Documents/ , and I chroot to where I am at, I am now in "/" . So If I go into a subfolder stuff, I am in /stuff and not /home/qwas/Documents/stuff
[04:22] <qin> zulax: *robots.txt (this tell crawles what to do and what not, so less weight from non-malisious bots, for rest htaccess)
[04:22] <nehi> daniel: i think ubuntu kung fu is good
[04:22] <daniel> thanks
[04:22] <JamezQ> qwaz: Or for a more realistic example, your shell will look for programs in /bin , /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin, among others. If you chroot it will look it, /home/qwas/Documents/bin and such
[04:22] <zulax> qin i put it my webroot with content User-agent: * , Disallow: /
[04:22] <dumptruckman> i'm having trouble launching an windows executable through wine.. it says it does not have the executable bit.  If i right-click->properties, permissions tab and check the executable box it immediately unchecks
[04:22] <zendeavor> qwaz: it's a way into a system without booting directly into it
[04:23] <JamezQ> and will use those binaries, it can be like being in a totally different os, just using the same kernel
[04:23] <bullgard6> OO.o 3.2 Base in Jaunty is trying to connect to my MySQL database and otains: "Communication  link failure." What does the second field in the Base status bar mean?
[04:23] <qin> zulax: Correct
[04:23] <urlin2u> zendeavor, if not encrypted a live cd should get you in.
[04:23] <zendeavor> yes it should, have fun
[04:23] <JamezQ> qwaz: Hopefully that is good enough :)
[04:24] <dumptruckman> i've also tried doing sudo nautlius and changing it through that... same thing, i can't change the executable checkbox or any of the permissions.  The file is located on a windows partition.
[04:24] <nehi> qin: the second commands outcome is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/676353/
[04:24] <zulax> qin,  is there a way to test it?
[04:24] <jasongriffee> i have 11.04, how would I upgrade to ubuntu 11.10 today?
[04:25] <daniel> is ubuntu kung fu fairly easy to understand for people are are not very advanced in there computer skills
[04:25] <centHOGG> time machine
[04:25] <qin> zulax: try curl or wget against site (with recrusive option)
[04:25] <jasongriffee> isn't there a beta copy out?
[04:25] <nehi> qin: i think my root folder is getting too populated. how can i free some space
[04:25] <dumptruckman> anyone mind helping me??
[04:25] <qwaz> JamezQ: yeah thanks for the help man.
[04:25] <urlin2u> jasongriffee, as your main OS?
[04:25] <chavo> jasongriffee: no it's still alpha
[04:26] <JamezQ> qwaz: No problem
[04:26] <nehi> qin: in first place i think i should have made it larger but now i have no way
[04:26] <jasongriffee> isn't it close though?
[04:27] <JamezQ> dumptruckman: Try using open with, and manually type wine in the custom text-field.
[04:27] <ruler501> when I try to login I type in my password and then it asks me for my ssh passphrase. If I type it in correctly it goes to the login page if I type it in incorrectly It says incorrect passphrase please try again. How can I get into my system?
[04:27] <urlin2u> danial I learned it from scratch no computer skills whatsoever, no ms bias.
[04:27] <JamezQ> dumptruckman: That is a workaround, but someone should have another (better) answer
[04:27] <qin> nehi: sudo apr-get autoclean and sudo apt-get autoremove
[04:27] <zulax> qin, curl mysite.com actually gives me 401(.htaccess auth), so could i still test my robots.txt?
[04:28] <dumptruckman> jameszq: still have the same issue
[04:28] <nehi> qin: thanks buddy
[04:28] <daniel> it is updated for ubuntu 10.04
[04:28] <dumptruckman> The file 'blahblah' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.
[04:29] <qin> zulax: curl any file (know to you) in subdirectories. or wget -r
[04:29] <daniel> also has any used sbackup and would they recommend that or another linux application
[04:29] <zulax> ok
[04:29] <qin> nehi: How much space did you get?
[04:30] <xangua> dumptruckman: right clic-properties-mark it as executable
[04:30] <nehi> qin: nothing freed up!
[04:30] <urlin2u> dumptruckman, have you also tried the #winehq channel?
[04:30] <JamezQ> xangua: he already tried that
[04:30] <dumptruckman> xangua, when i do that, it immediately unchecks itself
[04:30] <JamezQ> dumptruckman: Here are some more things to try: dumptruckman:
[04:30] <JamezQ> dumptruckman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1500627
[04:30] <dumptruckman> i've tried it with sudo nautilus as well
[04:30] <rodhash> Guys, does anyone knows how to increase the height size of conky?
[04:30] <nehi> qin: my root is 4gb. and it's too small :(
[04:30] <gokulnath> are there any theams available for grub2 in natty
[04:30] <xangua> dumptruckman: please don't tell me that you are trying to run a windows app that is on your windows partition
[04:30] <xangua> ¿
[04:31] <urlin2u> rodhash, in the conky,rc file
[04:31] <JamezQ> dumptruckman: yes he is
[04:31] <xangua> .......
[04:31] <dumptruckman> it is on an ntfs partition
[04:31] <dumptruckman> but not on the windows partition
[04:31] <rodhash> urlin2u: Yes I'm modified .conkyrc
[04:31] <JamezQ> dumptruckman: Also, I suggest the one where you use the terminal, type wine then drag the file
[04:31] <qin> nehl: Sorry, that is stuff in /usr (your programs), uninstall someting.
[04:31] <xangua> dumptruckman: please install the windows app via wine, on Ubuntu
[04:31] <rodhash> urlin2u: but with no success
[04:31] <Saeid> please help me ! how can I change my brightness of lcd in lxde desktop-environment ?
[04:31] <nehi> qin: got it
[04:31] <dumptruckman> xangua, i can't alter the permissions of an ntfs partition?
[04:32] <zulax> thx qin for ur help, have a good evening
[04:32] <dumptruckman> of the files in an ntfs partition*
[04:32] <JamezQ> dumptruckman: you should be able to if you can write to it
[04:32] <EzeQL> why it says file not found
[04:32] <dumptruckman> and i can, JamezQ
[04:32] <nehi> qin: thank you so much for your help. nice time!
[04:32] <EzeQL> while im tring to execute a .sh file on the same directory?
[04:32] <JamezQ> dumptruckman: you CAN try coping over the exe to your desktop to try
[04:32] <JamezQ> dumptruckman: What kind of program is it?
[04:33] <dumptruckman> world of warcraft :3
[04:33] <qin> EzeQL: ./file.sh or bash file.sh?
[04:33] <EzeQL> 1st one
[04:33] <amh345> so i made a super simple cron to test.  1 * * * * echo "pewp" 1> /dev/null 2> /tmp/some_job.err   however, i see no output file in /tmp/some_job.err
[04:33] <qin> EzeQL: chmod +x file.sh (making executable)
[04:34] <dumptruckman> jamezq, that link you gave me, it talks about a error message when trying to change it... i'm not getting any kind of errors, it just unchecks
[04:34] <JamezQ> dumptruckman: Well, since that is a rather large program, I suggest installing in on your linux partition, things *can* get hairy
[04:35] <EzeQL> qin TY!
[04:35] <urlin2u> rodhash, with conky I save the original just in case ans tweak the heck out of the one not saved, everytime you hit save it should restart if not use in the terminal  killall conky && conky  to restart
[04:35] <qin> EzeQL: Welcome.
[04:35] <dumptruckman> i'd still like to understand why i can't change the executable bit of anything on this partition...
[04:35] <JamezQ> dumptruckman: it calls and loads other programs on that partition, and THOSE may not be executable, and wine may report back that the main one is not, or something weird,
[04:36] <qin> dumptruckman: you mean ntfs?
[04:36] <dumptruckman> yes
[04:36] <rodhash> urlin2u: That's what I'm doing... but my question was: How to change the height size... because I couldnt with some options I tried
[04:36] <nehi> qin: can i move some staff from root to /home?
[04:37] <daniel> Could anybody recommend a book on ubutu linux that was written more recently than ubuntu kung fu
[04:37] <chavo> dumptruckman: you shouldn't have to change any of that, works fine for me
[04:37] <urlin2u> rodhash, I realize that there can be in any conky a whole set of adjustments that enable or limit your sucess, so you havt o kind of peck around with it.
[04:37] <xangua> !manual | daniel
[04:37] <JamezQ> dumptruckman: Frankly, I just don't know ^ ^.  You can try to  give me the output of "file wow.exe" or whatever
[04:37] <rodhash> lol
[04:37] <dumptruckman> chavo, i know, i thought it was weird... i've installed ubuntu before and had no issues
[04:38] <rodhash> ok, my question is answered lol
[04:38] <dumptruckman> 10.04 i think
[04:38] <nehi> daniel: i think you can find some useful stuff in makeuseof.com
[04:38] <urlin2u> rodhash, if you want to pastebin your conky I will see if I can figure it out.
[04:38] <qin> nehi: No!
[04:40] <nehi> qin: oh god so i should think about a new fresh install. hate it!
[04:40] <nehi> qin: thank you so much
[04:40] <EzeQL> how can i install nvdiria drivers for gforce 525m ?
[04:40] <qin> nehi: try to open synaptic and see what programs take most space and you do not need them.
[04:41] <dumptruckman> wow.. suddenly it works.
[04:41] <nehi> qin: ok ok
[04:41] <JamezQ> dumptruckman: Your welcome.
[04:41] <bullgard6> OO.o 3.2 Base in Jaunty is trying to connect to my MySQL database and otains: "Communication  link failure." What does the second field in the Base status bar mean?
[04:41] <mouse> How do I find out the button number of a specific button on my mouse?
[04:43] <JamezQ> mouse: go into the terminal, type "xev" it should say what keycode it gets
[04:45] <[deXter]> Hi all; update to my previous problem: I'm now able to get to the recovery menu and I did an nvidia-xconfig
[04:45] <[deXter]> rebooted but still the system doesn't display anything
[04:45] <[deXter]> Tried the failsafex mode but that doesn't work either
[04:46] <xubuntu> my hp dv6000 laptop with a fresh install of ubuntu 10.04 will not sence my wireless network so that i can get online-help
[04:47] <mouse> JamezQ, Thank you.  That's what I was hoping to find.
[04:47] <JamezQ> mouse: No problem.
[04:47] <xubuntu> so far i have done wut seems obvious by entering my ssid and password but no luck
[04:50] <xubuntu> gotta funniny feeling im screwed
[04:50] <xubuntu> funny
[04:51] <guest09230932> i have a question does anyone know of a distribution or the current version of ubuntu that uses e17?
[04:51] <mouse> I've got a quick question about xev.  Using imwheel I've bound the right arrow to a mouse button.  When that button is pressed will xev detect a right arrow press event?
[04:51] <guest09230932> i have a question does anyone know of a distribution of the current version of ubuntu that uses e17*
[04:52] <qin> guest09230932: Any, after installing it.
[04:52] <guest09230932> with the current version of ubuntu that uses e17
[04:52] <bullgard6> OO.o 3.2 Base in Jaunty is trying to connect to my MySQL database and otains: "Communication  link failure." What does the second field in the Base status bar mean?
[04:52] <guest09230932> that sounds better
[04:52] <guest09230932> my grammar is poor lol
[04:53] <guest09230932> qin, well i just want e17
[04:53] <qin> guest09230932: For latest e17 you need PPA, but there is a bit older version in repos.
[04:53] <mouse> guest09230932, If you go to distrowatch.com you can search their database for all distros using e17
[04:54] <bullgard6> !enter | guest09230932
[04:54] <guest09230932> well i was hoping someone would know of one off the radar
[04:54] <mouse> guest09230932, Macpup
[04:54] <xangua> bullgard upgrade to a supported ubuntu release ;)
[04:54] <guest09230932> macpup. doesnt use 11.04
[04:55] <mouse> guest09230932, You asked for a distro that uses e17.
[04:55] <artypig78> hey guys, I'm hosting some files on my server, and I want my friends to be able to see the directory in their browsers. However, it is not showing up: what do i need to do? is this a problem with my .htaccess?
[04:55] <artypig78> (ie. it's not loading)
[04:55] <guest09230932> im wanting one thats current
[04:55] <qin> guest09230932: e17 do not look very active.
[04:56] <guest09230932> i know :( but it looks nice and neat
[04:56] <mouse> e17 has also been pretty buggy in my experiences.
[04:56] <guest09230932> looks like im going to install lubuntu
[04:57] <guest09230932> i already have a copy of it
[04:57] <Galindar> Hello all. Im looking for a better solution than Startup-Manager for 11.04. it does not hold my monitor settings and switches to the 800x600 default almost every other reboot. logging in 2x is getting annoying. any suggestions?
[04:57] <mouse> artypig78, You could change it to a ftp server since running the ftp protocol in a browser usually displays the directory.
[04:58] <qin> guest09230932: http://packages.enlightenment.org/ubuntu/
[04:59] <mouse> Galindar, Are you using a nvidia card?
[05:00] <mouse> I've got a quick question about xev.  Using imwheel I've bound the right arrow to a mouse button.  When that button is pressed will xev detect a right arrow press event?
[05:00] <Galindar> mouse:  yes.
[05:01] <guest09230932> qin, thanks btw
[05:02] <Galindar> mouse:  i had no problem with older versions of ubuntu. it just started after i upgraded to 11.04 the monitor kept giving me "out of range" when i booted up pc. so i installed Startup-Manager. but it does not seem to keep the settings i set in it all the time. i end up logging in,logging out, and then logging back in and that corrects the disply resolution. but i would really like something that works everytime.
[05:02] <OogyPoogy> Anyone else in NJ?
[05:02] <OogyPoogy> Getting a bit freaked about the hurricane.
[05:03] <mouse> Galindar, And you've already tried to change the res in nvidia-settings then "save to X configuration file"?
[05:04] <Galindar> mouse:  no i havent didnt think of that. i will try it. the Nvidia settings are set to auto. i will change it to the same as startup-manager. thank you.
[05:05] <daniel> has anyone here ever used Grsync
[05:05] <bullgard6> What does the 2nd field of the status bar of OO.o Base designate?
[05:05] <JamezQ> daniel: I have
[05:05] <daniel> would you recommend it
[05:05] <mouse> Galindar, You're welcome but if that doesn't work and you're desperate you can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to automatically set the res to what you want at startup.
[05:06] <JamezQ> daniel: Yes, it is very fast. I like it
[05:06] <Galindar> mouse: Nvidia settings doesnt list 1024x1080. i will try to edit the xorg.conf. thank you again!
[05:07] <JamezQ> daniel: It is a bit complicated if you are a newbie tho,
[05:07] <mouse> Galindar, Does your monitor support 1024x1080?
[05:08] <daniel> are there any backup applications that you would recommend that are not so complicated and preferably graphical
[05:08] <Galindar> mouse: yes and higher. used to use 1920x1200
[05:10] <bullgard6> daniel Ubuntu 11.10 GNOME 3 will provide a simple-to-use backup program.
[05:10] <JamezQ> daniel: Are you looking to back up just some files? mint-backup is great, otherwise there is deja dup, and a lot of others, but non I suggest
[05:11] <bullgard6> daniel Its name is simply "Backup".
[05:11] <JamezQ> daniel: Simply because I have not used them, I just use (g)rsync, and have used mint-backup before, they are both good. Google backup software for ubuntu if no one else can respond.
[05:11] <urlin2u> Diamonda is sinister yet beautiful, an amazing keyboard player a s well.
[05:11] <urlin2u> opps wrong channel
[05:12] <daniel> I am looking to have my files and system backed up automatically
[05:12] <mouse> Galindar, If you're sure your graphics card is working properly but you're not seeing a res you're sure your monitor supports then you might want to check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for any errors related to your monitor's EDID
[05:12] <JamezQ> daniel: You can do that with pretty much any backup software, sometimes you may put in a cron job, but that is easy
[05:13] <Galindar> mouse: ok i will check that also. thank you again!
[05:13] <bullgard6> What does the 2nd field of the status bar of OO.o Base designate?
[05:14] <mouse> Galindar, NP
[05:15] <Rafase282> Hello, can anyone help me setup a dchp server on m y ubuntu machine or a way to connect my internet with my phone runing debian through usb?
[05:15] <Rafase282> it is setup to get an ip using dchp
[05:16] <Rafase282> so without it I cant ssh into it
[05:16] <Rafase282> which is what i'm trying to do actually
[05:19] <computerx> Hi there clever people. I want to write to the php.ini and restart apache from a php script. Can I give a specific script elevated privledges through a sticky bit, or should I look at changing the file permissions on php.ini and exec permissions on apache?
[05:20] <new1> does anyone here use wine?
[05:21] <centHOGG> no i use cheese though
[05:21] <computerx> Yes new1, what's up?
[05:21] <computerx> What type of cheese, stilton? Boursin?
[05:22] <Rafase282> anyone here familiar with dchp?
[05:22] <villa> how can I hide a file or a folder? what cmd can realize this?
[05:22] <lethu> new1, go ahead
[05:22] <Rafase282> dhcp*
 i have 1.2.2 on 11.04. i need to install office 2003 all-in-one. i don't know how to even begin.
[05:22] <lethu> villa, by suffixing a dot to its name
[05:22] <computerx> villa: You can either change the priveledges on the folder so it can't be read, or hide it from most programs by naming it ".something"
[05:23] <computerx> new1: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3214 -- should help you get started
[05:23] <new1> thanks
[05:24] <lethu> villa, I mean prefixing, not suffixing, sorry
[05:24] <villa> ...
[05:26] <nationstatedog> What's up with the new Sun Java news? If we won't have normal PPA use, will we just have to find another PPA that's not officially from Sun/Oracle or something?
[05:26] <computerx> IcedTea not working out for you?
[05:26] <happygolucky> villa: can also use truecrypt
[05:28] <villa> Combatjuan, Is a folder hidden the same way as a file?
[05:28] <nationstatedog> computerx: but i heard the whole icedtea/openjdk stuff sucks compared to Sun's stuff
[05:28] <nationstatedog> is it true or just FUD?
[05:29] <computerx> FUD mostly
[05:29] <bullgard6> What does the 2nd field of the status bar of OO.o Base designate?
[05:29] <happygolucky> daniel: there's different raid levels that do it on the fly and there is also the cloud way via the internet namely dropbox but that is only 2 GB of back-up
[05:29] <computerx> nationstatedog: I had trouble running Netbeans in it, found it very slow for that, but if you read enough, you should find it very capable 99% of the time.
[05:30] <villa> Thanks you all. prefixing a dot works
[05:30] <xubuntu> why doesnt ubuntu make srivers for broadom wireless cards when they are one of the most widely used
[05:30] <nationstatedog> computerx: i don't use netbeans (eclipse and IDEAJ) so that's encouraging
[05:30] <xubuntu> drivers*
[05:30] <nationstatedog> I also hear things like Clojure are built off of/with Sun Java in mind vs openjdk
[05:30] <nationstatedog> but i don't use clojure anyways soo
[05:31] <computerx> nationstatedog: Read http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=java_vm_performance&num=2 and the next few pages. IcedTea and Oracle Java are about the same on Linux.
[05:31] <nationstatedog> RIP Sun
[05:31] <nationstatedog> thanks computerx
[05:31] <computerx> xubuntu: Because Broadcom don't care to help Linux developers, want to keep their code a secret and no one has had time to hack it yet
[05:32] <computerx> xubuntu: Have you looked at the ndis driver package?
[05:32] <urlin2u> xubuntu, the question is why does not brpadcom provide for linux, and you can use ubuntu packages to use them.
[05:33] <xubuntu> no ndis is unstable
[05:33] <xubuntu> and i dont know how to do it
[05:34] <xubuntu> i sure hope it will at least go online hard wired
[05:34] <computerx> xubuntu: I wish you luck, I hate wireless with a passion, so I'm afraid I don't share your pain
[05:34] <xubuntu> do i have to go online to try this ndis
[05:35] <computerx> Not tried it, I just know about it. The software centre search for ndis should get you somewhere.
[05:35] <crash1hd> hmm seems that I am having issues with a basic command running sudo chmod 777 * in a folder full of folders and yet nothing is changing? I have admin rights and the folders are in my users name
[05:35] <computerx> crash1hd: Are you using chmod -R 0777 *
[05:35] <crash1hd> nope that might be why it is not working
[05:35] <computerx> Might be :)
[05:36] <crash1hd> I did not realize that I needed to say -R which is recursive right?
[05:36] <new1> how do i use gconf editor to keep 11.04 from keeping a list of recent files/folders?
[05:36] <computerx> Yes, and octal is always preceeded with a zero
[05:36] <urlin2u> xubuntu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[05:36] <psycho_oreos> xubuntu, ubuntu isn't responsible for making drivers, they take on the role like every other major linux distribution. To package all the stuff together into one thing rather than focusing on creating custom drivers. Alas broadcom has been very slow to providing proper support to its linux community
[05:37] <xubuntu> they really need to get cozy with broadcom
[05:37] <bullgard6> What does the 2nd field of the status bar of OO.o Base designate?
[05:37] <psycho_oreos> xubuntu, no I　think that's besides the point
[05:38] <crash1hd> computerx, thanks :)
[05:38] <luigi> Does stock ubuntu kernel have magic sysrq compiled in?
[05:38] <xubuntu> well if it will go online wired ill behappy i guess but its just really really super freakin stupid its not rocket science
[05:39] <daniel> what about something that backs up all the data on my hard drive to an external hard drive.  And allows me to see all the files I backed up and restore only certain ones
[05:39] <psycho_oreos> xubuntu, stupid for what? wireless driver support with broadcom wireless under linux to be supporting your broadcom chipset? if that's the case I challenge you to support b43 devs
 does ubuntu have an option as to whether or not it keeps alist of recent files/folders?
[05:40] <computerx> new1:  I was looking for you, but got interrupted having a question of my own answered, sec
[05:40] <computerx> new1:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91154
 thanks.
[05:42] <xubuntu> kids hack into govt computers and buntu cant go online with wireless
[05:42] <xubuntu> sumthin wrong there
[05:42] <computerx> If it bothers you that much, help out! Write the drivers for us!
[05:42] <xubuntu> u know
[05:42] <psycho_oreos> indeed
[05:42] <xubuntu> if i was like that i would
[05:42] <computerx> Please, because then we get less hassle from angry people coming in complaining no one has done it yet ;)
[05:43] <xubuntu> cuz a real computer person could
[05:43] <psycho_oreos> then quit whinging just because ubuntu doesn't have support for it, its not ubuntu's fault. If anything its broadcom's fault
[05:43] <new1> does that work on unity?
[05:43] <computerx> xubuntu: I've been programming for 19 years, I can even do assembler pretty well. I'm not capable of writing the wireless driver you ask for. It's not as simple as you think.
 does that work on unity as well?
[05:44] <computerx> The recent files?
[05:44] <new1> yes
[05:44] <computerx> *probably*... It's still basically gnome anyway
[05:45] <new1> ok. caveat noted. :)
[05:45] <xubuntu> well its stil a cool computer it runs vista wirelss and the guy im sellin it too will just have to use his cat5 for good ole ubuntu
[05:46] <xubuntu> same sheat different day
[05:46] <centHOGG> ^
[05:46] <new1> sosdd
[05:46] <psycho_oreos> the guy who you sell your `cool' computer to may actually be more diligent and less whinging than you are
[05:47] <xubuntu> pffft
[05:47] <new1> lol
[05:47] <xubuntu> heck i wont be winin much longer im gonna dump it
[05:47] <new1> overall, 11.04 is much better than windows.
[05:47] <centHOGG> lol
[05:48] <new1> tho i'm still gonna keep my antique xp system.
[05:48] <xubuntu> i got tons of xp
[05:48] <centHOGG> xp rox
[05:48] <new1> i'm curious to see just how long i can keep it going.
[05:49] <xubuntu> after i tweaked this nutty vista thing i got ut runnin good though
[05:49] <computerx> Crazy man
[05:49] <new1> nutty vista! haha :)
[05:49] <xubuntu> yeah 3 min boot time haha
[05:50] <psycho_oreos> !offtopic
[05:50] <xubuntu> thats why i dual booted ubuntu
[05:50] <bazhang> xubuntu, thats enough
[05:50] <xubuntu> enuf wut
[05:51] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat xubuntu
[05:51] <new1> which version of linux is best for dual-booting on an older system?
[05:51] <xubuntu> im talkin bout ubuntu
[05:51] <bazhang> new1, try lubuntu
[05:51] <Random832> new1: whichever version runs well on the older system at all - dual-booting has been a solved problem for quite some time
[05:51] <bazhang> !lubuntu | new1
[05:52] <jiohdi> new1 you can use gnome-openbox on old machines too
[05:52] <jiohdi> or just plain openbox
 will that work on a laptop running xp pro w/sp3 and a p4m cpu?
[05:52] <bazhang> new1, whats the ram
[05:53] <computerx> A male sheep
[05:53] <Tech-1> lol
[05:53] <bazhang> computerx, not helpful
[05:53] <xubuntu> yes ive run lubuntu on a p4 with 512 ram runs good
 256mb.
[05:53] <computerx> I woke up at 5:30 with crippling tooth ache following a surgical wisdom tooth extraction. If it makes me laugh, it's helpful :p
[05:53] <jiohdi> if all else fails, you can always use tinycore and puppy
[05:54] <bazhang> computerx, not here. take the chit chat elsewhere
[05:54] <xubuntu> it will run on 256 ram new1
 ok. thanks.
[05:55] <new1> i am rather fond of the old thing.
[05:55] <new1> can i use wubi on it?
[05:56] <jiohdi> wubi has very bad hazzards
[05:56] <mydearxym> hi all
[05:56] <jiohdi> or at least used to
[05:56] <new1> oh
[05:56] <Boban73> hi
[05:56] <jiohdi> it worked fine until the first update then it crashed and burned and made my system unbootable
[05:57] <new1> so i just install lubuntu on a separate partition?
[05:57] <jiohdi> that is best
[05:57] <jiohdi> grub2 will find the other os
[05:57] <new1> ok. it's a 20gb hard drive.
[05:57] <jiohdi> plenty of room
[05:58] <xubuntu> how much space is gone from xp new1
[05:59] <new1> i still have 14gb of free space.
[05:59] <xubuntu> o thats plenty
[05:59] <new1> i've had it for 10 years, and still haven't gotten anywhere near full.
[06:00] <xubuntu> u can make a swap partition of 512mb to give u a lil extra ram
[06:00] <jiohdi> my first computer had a 500meg hd and I thought that was huge back then
[06:00] <new1> the ram itself is upgradable, if i can find any.
[06:01] <Arcademan> May I ask did you guys drop libtcl8.5.so :)
[06:01] <REK_007> anyway way to control mouse movement and keyboard keys via a xbox controller ?
[06:01] <REK_007> something like Xpadder ?
[06:01] <gaelfx> xubuntu: depending on what you're doing, swap is not always the best solution
 lol
[06:01] <xubuntu> true but at this point new1 is simply asking if it will run it
[06:02] <xubuntu> ram for old laptops is cheep now on ebay....almosr free
[06:02] <zykotick9> REK_007, you could try xserver-xorg-input-joystick
[06:03] <REK_007> zykotick9:  thanks will try that
 ok. will go looking.
[06:03] <gaelfx> new1: what pincount and bus speed are you looking for?
[06:05] <apporc> hello ,everyone . i use network-manager to connnect to my wlan. and just when i am using it , it failed to connect again. i didn't change anything. and log is here:http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/87270
[06:06] <REK_007> zykotick9: how do i configure it ?
[06:06] <zykotick9> REK_007, sorry i don't know - i've gotten it to move the cursor no problem, but buttons where always my issue.  Good luck.
[06:07] <REK_007> ok :) no problem :)
[06:07] <apporc> when i disable wireless networking and reable it . everything goes well now.
[06:08] <nova_hg> hello every body!
[06:08] <alucardromero-m> hiyee ;)
[06:08] <gaelfx> apparently you don't want to greet the bots?
[06:09] <administrator> hello
[06:09] <administrator> leaving
 IDK pincount/bus speed. But installed RAM is 256MB PC2100S DDR 133 CL2 32MX64 SDRAM, if that helps. Upgradeable to 1GB.
[06:12] <gaelfx> oof, DDR 133, that's...fun
[06:12] <airtonix> #hardware
[06:12] <new1> lol :)
[06:13] <apporc> hello ,everyone . i use network-manager to connnect to my wlan. and just when i am using it , it failed to connect again. i didn't change anything. and log is here:http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/87270
[06:13] <apporc> after i disable wireless networking and reable it . everything goes well now.
[06:14] <jaybutts> wtf I saw Dropped text.txt on my desktop and thought I got hacked for a minute
 It's a Gateway 450sx4 that runs a bit hot.
[06:15] <gaelfx> new1: you probably oughta go in with a can of air and clear out all the bunnies, but even so, it'll probably stil be fairly warm in there
 I've already done that, and replaced the heatsink/cpu fan, plus a new thermal pad. But it still runs hot. SpeedFan says avg. 60c.
[06:18] <JoeR1> I hear that there is a built in method for mounting ISO's in Ubuntu, what would that be?
[06:18] <new1> It's a Pentium 4 M 1.40GHz cpu.
[06:18] <gaelfx> new1: well, I'm guessing it probably pulls a lotta power to run on those huge transistors it's got ;)
[06:18] <jaybutts> thermal pad ...theres yer problem, get some thermal paste and get it on there good
[06:18] <new1> hahaha
[06:18] <bazhang> !iso | JoeR1
[06:18] <zoLevDotCom> hi
[06:19] <jaybutts> good cpu jizz is REQUIRED its not an option, like artic silver or whatever the kids are callin it these days
 The original heatsink had a thermal pad on it.
[06:19] <elljay> hi, if I want to capture a log of my terminal while running a .jar file how would I go about it? Way too much information to simply copy and paste.
[06:19] <bazhang> new1, jaybutts ##hardware please
[06:20] <link307> does anyone know any twitter & facebook ipv6 hosts?
[06:20] <link307> i need some
[06:21] <borsti> moin
[06:26] <serene> join #rubik
[06:29] <mr_e_panda> my ubuntu 10.04 is not playing dvds.
[06:30] <mr_e_panda> already installed the restricted extras
[06:30] <bazhang> !dvd | mr_e_panda
[06:30] <mukti> I have two microphones that were detected when I did the sytem testing (System>Administration>System Testing)
[06:30] <bazhang> mr_e_panda, get libdvdcss2 from medibuntu.org
[06:30] <mukti> However, I cannot see them in /dev/audio
[06:30] <mukti> infact, /dev/audio does not exist
[06:30] <mukti> does anyone know why this is?
[06:33] <mr_e_panda> i've already installed the restricted extras and done the extra step on the terminal
[06:33] <bazhang> mr_e_panda, get the package from medibuntu.org as I suggested?
[06:33] <zykotick9> mr_e_panda, dvd playback isn't in restricted-extras
[06:34] <mr_e_panda> not yet. i thought it was installed when you installed libdvdread4
[06:34] <mr_e_panda> working on getting it
[06:35] <mukti> Does anyone know why my microphones are not appearing in /dev/audio? Or are they supposed to appear somewhere else?
[06:35] <mr_e_panda> i've always done that when installing libdvdread4 with past releases
[06:35] <rhin0> mukti - try 'alsamixer' from bash shell if you like -- I recall that has microphone controls on it -- mahybe it will get you up and running
[06:35] <urlin2u> mr_e_panda, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[06:35] <rhin0> its a good sound control utility -- controls all inputs/outputs - well presented
[06:36] <zykotick9> mr_e_panda, FYI the libdvdread4 package actually just installs libdvdcss2 from medibuntu
[06:36] <rhin0> mukti: at least you can check from that whether your system has microphone configured at all
[06:37] <mr_e_panda> right. i downloaded it and it says it's already installed
[06:37] <Geoffrey2> I have an application I recently updated, and it looks like the name of the desktop file changed slightly...how can i check to see which version ubuntu is trying to load?
[06:37] <mr_e_panda> libdvdcss2 actually
[06:37] <zykotick9> mr_e_panda, then run the install script
[06:37] <mukti> Could i be listed in /proc/asound ?
[06:38] <mr_e_panda> so reinstall it then?
[06:38] <mukti> I couldnt see them in alsamixer?
[06:38] <rhin0> Geoffrey2: you can right click on the icon and within "properties" you will find what it calls
[06:38] <zykotick9> mr_e_panda, after install you have to run a script
[06:38] <mr_e_panda> what script do i run?
[06:38] <zykotick9> mr_e_panda, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[06:39] <rhin0> mukti sounds like your system may not be configured for the mic
[06:39] <mr_e_panda> yes i've already run that script
[06:39] <mukti> rhin0: I can use the sound recorder, and it will playback what I record
[06:39] <mr_e_panda> still no dice
[06:39] <rhin0> sorry ask someone else no expert on  sound - F2 within "alsamixer" giver you the paths to the sound devices etc
[06:39] <mukti> I just don't know where to find it in the filesystem
[06:40] <zykotick9> mr_e_panda, i know it's not very gnu/linux like - but i've always had to restart my systems to get it to work?
[06:40] <rhin0> I just checked alsamixer on my system - its the same ... no idea why you would want microhone control/display
[06:40] <rhin0> maybe look for a package mukti
[06:40] <mr_e_panda> lol
[06:40] <rhin0> ubuntu forums may have something on the issue
[06:40] <mr_e_panda> yea i hear you.
[06:40] <mr_e_panda> i've done that already too
[06:41] <Ramseize> is there a good alternative for bind9, im running a small vps 192mb memory. and it eats a lot of my memory, any ideas?
[06:41] <Geoffrey2> rhin0, where would I right click...in the Unity menu I can only launch it, or remove it from the unity menu....and in the Application menu, right clicking on icons does nothing....
[06:41] <rhin0> no ... on the icon on the dekstop
[06:41] <rhin0> ah - hang on thats unity -- I am talking about "classic desktop" -- no idea on unity sorry - but I know you can log into classic desktop
[06:41] <rhin0> unfamiliar with unity sorry Geoffrey2
[06:42] <rhin0> maybe log i into "classic desktop" select on login and you can see it there
[06:42] <mr_e_panda> n e other ideas>? i was thinking of reinstalling, but that's too much for this issue don't u think?
[06:43] <rhin0> theres a restricted formats howto mr_e_panda
[06:43] <rhin0> v plain
[06:43] <mr_e_panda> is it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[06:43] <urlin2u> mr_e_panda, you install the w32 codecs
[06:43] <rhin0> y3w
[06:43] <rhin0> yes thats the one
[06:43] <mr_e_panda> yes i've f olloed that
[06:43] <zykotick9> urlin2u, w32codecs and w64codecs have NOTHING to do with DVD playback
[06:44] <Geoffrey2> mr_e_panda, there is also another option for playing dvds in Ubuntu, besides libdvdcss2...it costs money, but it definitely works.....
[06:44] <rhin0> mr_e_panda: i've always got further by installing  vlc media player -- seems to play most things
[06:44] <mr_e_panda> i'm using amd64
[06:44] <mr_e_panda> i got vlc as well
[06:44] <rhin0> there are other packages
[06:44] <mr_e_panda> what is that other option?
[06:44] <mr_e_panda> the paid for one?
[06:44] <rhin0> don't do that
[06:44] <rhin0> there will be a way
[06:45] <Geoffrey2> a company called Fluendo came out with a linux native dvd player.....
[06:45] <urlin2u> zykotick9, non native media formats, is it not possible.
[06:45] <snufft> hey guys :)
[06:46] <mr_e_panda> what are the other options?
[06:46] <zykotick9> urlin2u, it's just not used for DVDs - for other files, sure
[06:46] <urlin2u> zykotick9, any fromat could be on ant dvd chill out bro, it is not if it will break anything.
[06:46] <new1> According to Installed SW, I have Configuration Editor. But I can't get it to show on the Applications so I can pin it to the Launcher.
[06:46] <urlin2u> format
[06:47] <zykotick9> mr_e_panda, what error message are you getting?  if you have mplayer installed "mplayer dvd://1"
[06:47] <snufft> i'm a ubuntu n00b and am having a little trouble getting my sound working. i've grabbed the linux drivers from the realtek website, but am getting stuck on not having 'alsaconf'. i've read that it's been removed from alsa-utils (which i have installed), but now the best i can find is a mandriva package. does anyone know what I can do now?
[06:47] <Ramseize> hello guys, is there a way to limit bind9 memory?
[06:47] <mr_e_panda> mplayer is the default installed player right?
[06:47] <mneumonic> Hello
[06:47] <Geoffrey2> mr_e_panda, Fluendo has a native linux DVD player.....it costs money, and it's closed source, which is probably a turnoff for some...but I've used it for over a year now.....
[06:47] <mr_e_panda> let me bring it up
[06:48] <zykotick9> mr_e_panda, media player != mplayer, no they aren't even close to the same, don't worry about mplayer.  What error are you currently getting?
[06:48] <mneumonic> How's everyone doing tonight?
[06:48] <mr_e_panda> From the default installed player it says "could not read from source"
[06:49] <urlin2u> mneumonic, grumpy lol
[06:49] <rhin0> keep asking now and again snufft --- sounds a simple problem ... what version ...what soundcard
[06:49] <mneumonic> Sorry to hear that.
[06:49] <zykotick9> mr_e_panda, ya, that's the typical - no dvd support error i'd say.  Sorry I don't have any suggestions other then simply installing libdvdcss2 from medibuntu.  Best of luck.
[06:49] <mr_e_panda> yea, i already have that installed
[06:50] <mr_e_panda> it works on my other 10.04 machines
[06:50] <mr_e_panda> which are all amd64
[06:50] <mr_e_panda> weird
[06:50] <philipballew> i think i need to install propitery drivers, can someone help me with that
[06:50] <mr_e_panda> should i try re-installing ubuntu?
[06:50] <gaelfx> philipballew: what do you need proprietary drivers for specifically?
[06:50] <zykotick9> philipballew, for what device?  a graphcis card/ wireless?
[06:51] <snufft> rhin0: yeah, sounds simple enough :) i'm trying to hunt down more info on the soundcard as we speak :)
[06:51] <rhin0> stuff like that if its old will be dealt with -- there is also ubuntu forums for multiple last issues www.ubuntuforums.org I think it was
[06:51] <philipballew> gaelfx, zykotick9 well i bought a new monitor and now my desktop's screen is haywire. so i ssh'd into it, installed a driver via jocky-text but i might have installed the worg one as it doesnt work
[06:52] <philipballew> *wrong
[06:52] <zykotick9> philipballew, what card "lspci | grep -i vga" if you aren't sure.
[06:52] <urlin2u> mr_e_panda, try more than one dvd, there is also vlc which has a lot and will probably play the dvd's, and I also suggest w32 codecs, as additional stuff to have installed
[06:53] <mr_e_panda> vlc does not work either, i've tried round 5 diff dvds
[06:53] <mr_e_panda> =/
[06:53] <gaelfx> philipballew: yeah, let's see what card you're using
[06:53] <philipballew> gaelfx, zykotick9 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51G [GeForce 6100] (rev a2)
[06:53] <mr_e_panda> w32 are for 32 bits no?
[06:53] <zykotick9> mr_e_panda, w64codecs
[06:53] <mr_e_panda> how do i get thos codes?
[06:54] <gaelfx> philipballew: did you restart the machine after installing the driver from Jockey?
[06:54] <zykotick9> mr_e_panda, w64codecs is a package from medibuntu
[06:54] <urlin2u> mr_e_panda, maybe the reader is dirty or broken, have yo installed the other codecs inspite of the claim it is not for dvd's I have a few that wont play with out it
[06:54] <mr_e_panda> hmmm... i'm gonna get them from medibuntu right now
[06:54] <mr_e_panda> i've also used the default player
[06:54] <mr_e_panda> on ubuntu
[06:54] <mr_e_panda> and vlc
[06:54] <philipballew> gaelfx yeah.
[06:55] <mr_e_panda> also tried to back up some of my dvds, and brasero won't read them
[06:55] <philipballew> there were 3 options to install. i might have installed the wrong one gaelfx
[06:55] <new1> How do I open GConf-Editor?
[06:55] <gaelfx> philipballew: lemme take a look at which driver is compatible with that card, sometimes you need to use an older driver for older cards
[06:56] <zykotick9> new1, gconf-editor
[06:56] <urlin2u> mr_e_panda, totem is problematic I use vlc or smplayer, a front end for mplayer
[06:56] <mr_e_panda> ok installing them right now
[06:56] <mr_e_panda> i just downloaded mplayer as well
[06:57] <philipballew> http://paste.ubuntu.com/676403/ gaelfx
[06:57] <zykotick9> philipballew, seems to be a lot of issues with your Nvidia 6100.  Best of luck.
 I can't get it to show on Applications so I can pin it to the Launcher.
[06:57] <zykotick9> new1, sorry i have NO idea about Unity issues.
[06:58] <new1> ok. can i use command-line terminal to open it?
[06:58] <urlin2u> mr_e_panda, are you updated otherwise and the universe backports, and multiverse repos open.
[06:58] <zykotick9> new1, sure, or alt+f2 (i imagine that still works in Unity?)
[06:59] <mr_e_panda> i am updated
[06:59] <new1> yes. it works.
[06:59] <philipballew> what do you think gaelfx
[07:00] <new1> what do i type in?
[07:00] <mr_e_panda> ummm... how do i check the backports, and multiverse repos open?
[07:00] <urlin2u> mr_e_panda, open software sorces and look there.
[07:00] <urlin2u> sources
[07:00] <gaelfx> philipballew: one more question, 64-bit or 32-bit Ubuntu?
[07:00] <philipballew> 32 gaelfx
[07:01] <urlin2u> mr_e_panda, you running lucid?
[07:01] <mr_e_panda> 10.04
[07:01] <mr_e_panda> LTS
[07:01] <mr_e_panda> and yes they are open
[07:01] <urlin2u> mr_e_panda, cool
[07:02] <gaelfx> philipballew: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-280.13-driver.html
[07:02] <mr_e_panda> didn't work with the w64 codecs btw
[07:03] <zykotick9> mr_e_panda, it's because they don't have anything to do with dvd playback
[07:03] <philipballew> gaelfx, should i uninstall the one i installed?
[07:03] <mr_e_panda> right
[07:03] <gaelfx> philipballew: the instructions for how to install that are on the page as well, however, keep in mind that if you install any kernel updates, you'll have to reinstall the driver yourself
[07:03] <mr_e_panda> i figured
[07:03] <new1> What do I type into the terminal to open config editor?
[07:03] <mr_e_panda> mplayer is only cli?
[07:03] <gaelfx> philipballew: disabling it should be enough, but you can uninstall it if you should so desire
[07:03] <zykotick9> mr_e_panda, "mplayer" is cli yes - there are front ends -- try "mplayer dvd://1"
[07:03] <philipballew> gaelfx, how does this better over trying one of the other 3. also how do i install it
[07:04] <gaelfx> philipballew: you might want to try installing the latest driver in Jockey (it looks like you installed an older driver initially, so try the new one before installing yourself)
[07:04] <bullgard6> What does the 2nd field of the status bar of OO.o Base designate?
[07:04] <urlin2u> funny I have dvd's that need them
[07:04] <mr_e_panda> ok it sees it
[07:05] <philipballew> gaelfx, do you know how uninstall a driver from jocky-text
[07:05] <mr_e_panda> but it didn't play
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[07:05] <mr_e_panda> i get this on mplayer
[07:05] <mr_e_panda> libdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_02_0.VOB (0x0037cf56)
[07:05] <zykotick9> new1, "gconf-editor"
[07:06] <new1> ok
[07:06] <bullgard6> new1: gconf-editor
[07:06] <new1> thanks
[07:06] <gaelfx> philipballew: hang on
[07:06] <philipballew> oh. alright :) gaelfx
[07:06] <new1> i'm going to find out if it's anything like regedit in xp.
[07:07] <urlin2u> zykotick9, mr_e_panda http://www.debianadmin.com/install-libdvdcss-and-w32-video-codecs-in-debian-and-ubuntu.html    http://www.divx.com/en/electronics/categories/dvd-players   It may have not worked in this case .
[07:07] <gaelfx> philipballew: I really think you should try the newer driver that's available in Jockey already
[07:08] <gaelfx> philipballew: it's a much simpler solution, assuming it works
[07:08] <philipballew> i am goin to. i was just wondering how i disable the one i installed
[07:08] <philipballew> gaelfx, ^
[07:09] <new1> bbl. thanks. :)
[07:09] <gaelfx> philipballew: I believe jockey will take care of that for you
[07:10] <gaelfx> philipballew: also, if you do 'man jockey-text' or 'jockey-text --help' it should tell you what kinds of options you can use with jockey-text
[07:11] <philipballew> alright. ill let you know how it goes :) gaelfx
[07:12] <gaelfx> philipballew: for example: jockey-text -l will tell you what drivers are available
[07:13] <gaelfx> philipballew: and jockey-text -d [DRIVERNAME] will disable the driver you want to disable
[07:13] <philipballew> alright. i disabled the driver i was using and now im installing the new driver gaelfx
[07:14] <gaelfx> philipballew: cool, lemme know if it works
[07:15] <CyclingTux> Quit
[07:16] <gaelfx> Never!
[07:16] <gaelfx> when the meek get pinched, the bold survive
[07:21] <JoeR1> urlin2u, Care to keep trying or have you had enough of this issue?
[07:22] <urlin2u> JoeR1, sure
[07:23] <urlin2u> JoeR1, you don't have a live cd of the install am I correct?   Also some times things just break and need reinstalled
[07:24] <urlin2u> to be*
[07:25] <zelozelos> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:25] <zelozelos> oops
[07:26] <whiz_> hey my workspaces aren't acting right -- the contents in them seem to move around to different workspaces when moving to a new/different one
[07:26] <JoeR1> urlin2u, Well I am still optimistic because the file system is intact, but yes - I do not have a working live cd, USB booting is non functional and I think i just though of a way to fix this
[07:26] <JoeR1> How is 11.10?
[07:26] <whiz_> i'm still on 5.04
[07:26] <centHOGG> heh
[07:27] <tricaric> Hi, I see that my wifi does a scan every 2 minutes, making the bandwidth drop for a few seconds each time. I would like to increase the scan period from 2 minutes to something like 10 minutes or so, but I cannot find how to configure that, any idea? thanks!
[07:27] <zelozelos> just made my 1st theme for glx dock for ubuntu  goto http://gnome-look.org/?xsection=home tell me what u think
[07:28] <JoeR1> urlin2u, Do you know a way I can check the exact version of the live cd I am using?
[07:28] <zelozelos> about ubuntu
[07:28] <urlin2u> JoeR1, I just loaded the super grub 1.3 to a thumb I will reboot to see if it works.
[07:28] <zelozelos> or help, about ubuntu
[07:31] <Astrology> which command can set my ubuntu's system time ?
[07:32] <Astrology> if that command can open a GUI setting, it is better
[07:33] <urlin2u> JoeR1, so my thumb loaded using unetbootin did not work, this is why I use a cd, yes I rember you don't have one.
[07:33] <JoeR1> urlin2u, I have an alternate idea or two
[07:33] <urlin2u> JoeR1, okay.:D
[07:34] <bullgard6> Astrology: In GNOME 2, click on the applet Time&Date , then Clock Preferences , then Time Settings.
[07:34] <JoeR1> well shall see if I am successful
[07:34] <JoeR1> brb
[07:34] <Astrology> bullgard6: very sorry, I am under awesome, that's why I ask for a command to set time.
[07:35] <bullgard6> Astrology: Next time you better place a more precise question in this channel.
[07:35] <Astrology> bullgard6: ok, my fault.
[07:35] <zykotick9> Astrology, installing ntpdate then using "ntpdate NTPSERVER" might be easiest solution
[07:36] <Astrology> zykotick9: Thanks very much
[07:36] <zykotick9> Astrology, NTP = Network Time Protocol, this synchronizes your time with a server online
[07:37] <happygolucky> Astrology: also hwclock
[07:41] <Astrology> happygolucky: good idea.
[07:41] <defendguin> is it possible to get a iso for 11.10?  i'd like to give it a spin running form a usb drive
[07:42] <zykotick9> defendguin, i'd check the topic of #ubuntu+1
[07:43] <zykotick9> defendguin, i hear it's a hybrid ISO/USB - so you should be able to just cat/dd it to USB now.
[07:43] <alex_under> hello, can someone tell me how do I reset ALSA configs ?
[07:43] <_BadBoy_> hello what command i use to see the ipconfig in the terminal?
[07:43] <zykotick9> _BadBoy_, ifconfig
[07:43] <_BadBoy_> ty
[07:43] <_BadBoy_> :)
[07:44] <alex_under> I've tried to install the realtek version of alsa, and now I get Module snd_seq_midi not found and snd_rawmidi not found.
[07:44] <defendguin> zykotick9: thanks
[07:45] <jaybutts> how do u show buddy list with this empathy thingamajig
[07:46] <zykotick9> jaybutts, my personal recommendation would be to use a real IRC client for IRCing  - xchat is a popular GUI client, while irssi is popular CLI client
[07:46] <jaybutts> server down need to send message
[07:46] <bullgard6> !alsa | alex_under
[07:47] <jaybutts> pidgin &
[07:48] <oooaaaooo> hi guys i have a quick question about the encrypted volume option when i first installed ubuntu; how do i get the passphrase again after the initial first boot reminder?
[07:49] <jaybutts> zykotick9: your suggesting I shouldn't use irssi?
[07:49] <alex_under> bullgard6: well, the problem is that sound worked, but the mic didn't .... now I have no sound and no mic and I want to reinstall the old alsa as it was.
[07:49] <zykotick9> jaybutts, it's popular with the cli types, not my fav - but you might LOVE it?  I'm not for or against it.
[07:49] <jaybutts> yea thats what im using
[07:50] <jaybutts> Im have empathy for jabber
[07:50] <scottj> zykotick9: if you're not for us you're against us :)
[07:50] <jaybutts> but I can't get the buddy list to show up
[07:50] <alex_under> bullgard6: if I try to remove alsa-base it says that it marks ubuntu-desktop, too
[07:50] <jaybutts> I normally use pidgin
[07:50] <urlin2u> oooaaaooo, ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase  in the terminal
[07:50] <zykotick9> scottj, i'm all for cli, but irssi isn't my thing - i find it very limited compared to xchat, but that's just me ;)
[07:51] <jaybutts> what do you mean by cli types?
[07:51] <zykotick9> jaybutts, CLI = command line interface (ie text)
[07:51] <bullgard6> alex_under: What have youdone that you havew no longer sound?
[07:51] <bullgard6> -w
[07:51] <jaybutts> oh ok
[07:51] <oooaaaooo> urlin2u: thanks. Its asking em for the passphrase...?
[07:51] <alex_under> bullgard6: tried to install realtek alsa
[07:51] <tomasz> lo
[07:51] <urlin2u> oooaaaooo, you mean the password.
[07:51] <tomasz> hello
[07:51] <jaybutts> yes I work with linux for a living so I prefer consoel
[07:51] <oooaaaooo> rootzilla@minizilla:~$ ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase
[07:51] <oooaaaooo> Passphrase:
[07:52] <jaybutts> consoel=cli
[07:53] <urlin2u> oooaaaooo, right you use the password that was originally used, generally the user password
[07:53] <oooaaaooo> urlin2u: did it mean to say su password when it asks for passphrase? Will there be any adverse effects if i put in the wrong password/phrase?
[07:53] <oooaaaooo> urlin2u: i.e. will i be locked out/
[07:53] <urlin2u> oooaaaooo, no use the regular user password
[07:53] <jaybutts> this fancy xwindows and ubuntu stuff is weird for me usually use windows on desktop but im in a shell 12 hours a day minimum
[07:54] <urlin2u> oooaaaooo, this ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase  then your user password
[07:54] <Zaknafein89> i need help
[07:54] <oooaaaooo> urlin2u: yup
[07:54] <zykotick9> !ask | Zaknafein89
[07:54] <attj> Hi, I downloaded ubuntu 11.04 64-bit from ubuntu.com, burned to CD and installed my computer. Ubuntu won't start after all this so i went to recovery mode and typed apt-get update & upgrade & dist-upgrade. But still ubuntu won't start, all it does is flashing the screen with ubuntu logo and those dots.
[07:54] <Zaknafein89> can't connect to ircnet from epathy??
[07:54] <Zaknafein89> empathy*
[07:55] <Zaknafein89> freenode connect's just fine..
[07:55] <gaelfx> Zaknafein89: that is unfortunately correct
[07:55] <Zaknafein89> so.. no fix?
[07:55] <zykotick9> attj, you might want to try the nomodeset kernel option, "/msg ubottu nomodeset" to see the factoid
[07:56] <gaelfx> Zaknafein89: oops, sorry, I misread that, I'm not really sure
[07:56] <jaybutts> how do you show the buddy list for empathy
[07:56] <bullgard6> alex_under: I do not know much about realtek specifics. -- You might invoke as a first try '~$ alsamixer' and analyze for wrong settings.
[07:56] <Zaknafein89> favorites and ungrouped
[07:58] <Thelmaria> Can I specify from ubuntu the next boot device in grub? I duel-boot, and from power-on->grub is a few minutes I have to wait if I don't want to boot into the default option.
[07:58] <alex_under> bullgard6: cannot open mixer: no such device
[07:58] <urlin2u> attj, you get the nomodeset option figured out?
[07:59] <alex_under> bullgard6: isn't a 'magic way' to return to default ? if I can't use the built-in mic, at least the sound :|
[08:00] <bullgard6> alex_under: Check with Synaptic if you have installeda package named gnome-alsamixer.
[08:00] <attj> urlin2u, not yet :)
[08:00] <alex_under> bullgard6: it's installed
[08:01] <attj> I have i5 cpu and ati graphic card if that matters
[08:01] <bullgard6> alex_under: This is a very general question. The most general way to return to default is to install Ubuntu anew. -- this is hardly what you want.
[08:01] <Moshanator> the1maria, try "grub-reboot #" where # is number of your grub entry
[08:01] <urlin2u> attj, you can use the recovery at the grub menu and choose failsafe in the next gui as well same thing basically
[08:02] <Thelmaria> Moshanator: Thanks very much indeed.
[08:02] <zykotick9> Moshanator, wow that's neat, thanks
[08:03] <fasta> Which files determine which users are on a system?
[08:03] <fasta> There is /etc/shadow, /etc/shadow- and?
[08:03] <alex_under> bullgard6: so that's the only way?
[08:03] <zykotick9> fasta, /etc/passwd actually?  /etc/shadow is the encrypted password files
[08:04] <bullgard6> alex_under: If alsamixer returns: "cannot open mixer: no such device" then your sound configuration is severly out of order. --  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[08:05] <C0oL> hi guys
[08:05] <C0oL> can I ask a quick question?
[08:05] <attj> thanks, that failsafe helped. Now i can see the desktop :)
[08:05] <zykotick9> bullgard6, i'm afraid alex_under attempt to use a 3rd party ALSA may be difficult to correct.  How to uninstall that 3rd party version may be non-trivial.
[08:06] <C0oL> is it possible to install a distro upgrade from an iso file on a netbook?
[08:06] <Moshanator> !ask > C0ol
[08:07] <attj> still the screen is flashing and it has been split half at wrong place (i can see the right end of screen middle of the screen. and left end of screen also middle of the screen)
[08:07] <rokra> Hi someone can help me to configure my printer? I m getting some error
[08:07] <GreenCloud> hi, i have an extra pc and i would like to try setup an ssh server so i can offer free shell accounf for my friends. what do i need to do?
[08:08] <rokra> My printer seems to be configured but it is not working and localhost:631 show me unable to connect
[08:08] <the_p> hi. i try to install kubuntu i have a problem with the installer. the x-server settings seem to be wrong i can't see the full screen. it is cropped at the borders such that i can't see the relevant menu any more. Can i change this somehow?
[08:08] <zykotick9> GreenCloud, install ubuntu, install openssh-server, forward port 22 on your router to the machine - "should" be about it.
[08:09] <fasta> zykotick9: what is the point of the /etc/shadow- file?
[08:09] <C0oL>  is it possible to install a distro upgrade from an iso file on a netbook?
[08:09] <zykotick9> fasta, I'm not sure what the shadow- does?
[08:10] <GreenCloud> zykotick9: so you mean i also need to configure my router for this?
[08:10] <zykotick9> GreenCloud, yes
[08:10] <neokx> hello
[08:11] <neokx> is help chanel
[08:11] <neokx> ?
[08:11] <Thelmaria> Can I resize / without using a livecd?
[08:11] <urlin2u> Thelmaria, linux no windows 7 yes
[08:12] <Thelmaria> urlin2u: Thanks
[08:12] <urlin2u> Thelmaria, the partion your using can't be resized
[08:12] <neokx> how can i get ubuntu
[08:12] <urlin2u> Thelmaria, others can though
[08:12] <zykotick9> neokx, http://www.ubuntu.com/
[08:12] <Thelmaria> urlin2u: No fancy way to unmount it while running it? I should have enough ram to hold most of the running things.
[08:13] <urlin2u> Thelmaria, nah would be nice though
[08:13] <zykotick9> Thelmaria, not gonna happen
[08:13] <neokx> i have thist problem for more information plaese see the log file:
[08:13] <neokx> c:users usuario appdata local temp wubi-9.04-rev211.log
[08:13] <neokx> i can not instal
[08:13] <neokx> sorry i dont speak good english
[08:14] <zykotick9> neokx, what is your native language?
[08:14] <urlin2u> neokx, you trying to install 9.04 as a wubi?
[08:14] <neokx> español
[08:14] <zykotick9> !es | neokx
[08:14] <neokx> im o ready on that chanel
[08:14] <neokx> no one answer
[08:15] <Thelmaria> urlin2u, zykotick9 - heh, figured. Thanks though :)
[08:16] <neokx> i just trying to get in ubuntu
[08:16] <zykotick9> neokx, 9.04 is no longer supported, you should download a newer (supported) version of ubuntu.  But Wubi is junk IN MY OPINION ONLY!
[08:16] <urlin2u> lol I'm with you
[08:16] <neokx> i traing whit 11.04 version
[08:16] <neokx> and is the same problem
[08:17] <neokx> i tink is because i have windows 7
[08:18] <hellhammer> If im running gnome 3 in ubuntu 10.04 is there a way i can revert back to ubuntu 2?
[08:18] <urlin2u> neokx, have you looked at the wubi page?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[08:18] <zykotick9> hellhammer, reinstall ;)
[08:18] <alex_under> zykotick9: what happens if I remove ubuntu-desktop
[08:18] <hellhammer> If im running gnome 3 in ubuntu 10.04 is there a way i can revert back to gnome 2?
[08:18] <alex_under> zykotick9: and reinstall it again ?
[08:19] <alex_under> zykotick9: do I lose personal data ?
[08:19] <zykotick9> alex_under, most likely you'll uninstall a LOT of packages
[08:19] <attj> Niice :) now ubuntu started, thank you very much :)
[08:19] <zykotick9> alex_under, no personal data lose no
[08:19] <Yakooza> hello
[08:19] <alex_under> zykotick9: it will restore system to default ?
[08:19] <attj> I installed ati-drivers on failsafe graphic mode and it worked out
[08:19] <neokx> yes im o ready look on that web
[08:19] <zykotick9> alex_under, no
[08:19] <Yakooza> when trying to boot i get an error "Unable to boot operating system"
[08:20] <Yakooza> I think this may be the Win xp setup though, how can I change the active partition in Ubuntu?
[08:20] <neokx> is so hard to install
[08:20] <zykotick9> alex_under, uninstall/reinstall typically doesn't do much (if anything) on gnu/linux boxes
[08:20] <oooaaaooo> urlin2u: hey another question. so i have the passphrase for a certain encrypted volume, and i would likt to mount it so that i can access all of the data within it. Would the following be sufficient: "sudo mount -t ecryptfs  XXX.desktop" ?
[08:21] <urlin2u> oooaaaooo, I only know how far we have gotten, not trying to mount it.
[08:21] <dyzioziom> ;)
[08:21] <alex_under> zybotick9: so what are my options/
[08:22] <zykotick9> !tab > alex_under
[08:22] <urlin2u> Yakooza, ycan you give some back info on the problem, like installation orders and the actual ubuntu your using.
[08:22] <zykotick9> alex_under, ? don't know - you could try the (what alsa did you install?) support, if they have any.  But you may need to end up backing up your data a reinstalling I'm afriad (i hope not)
[08:23] <neokx> yakooza left
[08:23] <neokx> quit
[08:23] <datruth> Is there a stress or nessus test for openvpn?
[08:23] <alex_under> zykotick9.. now x server stopped working too..
[08:23] <alex_under> :(
[08:24] <zykotick9> alex_under, installing things from outside ubuntu's repos can lead to a lot of problems (just something to think about for next time)
[08:27] <kz3> when I put Ubuntu 10.04 disc and boot up...and when I click on "Install Ubuntu" nothing happens...what should I do?
[08:27] <neokx> i find ubuntu mexico
[08:27] <StaticPhilly> kz3: kick it
[08:27] <StaticPhilly> kz3: sorry, have you tryed another disk~?
[08:27] <neokx> but no one answer hehehe
[08:27] <neokx> bad luck
[08:28] <kz3> StaticPhilly:  ubuntu 11.04 disc was working fine
[08:28] <StaticPhilly> kz3: yea but have you tryed burning another 10.04 disk just in case it was a bad burn
[08:28] <zykotick9> kz3, you could try to use "Try Ubuntu" and see if the install on the desktop works
[08:28] <kz3>  zykotick9: try ubuntu also doesnt work :(
[08:29] <kz3> StaticPhilly: I will try another burn
[08:29] <the_p> hi. is there a possibility to change the x-server settings for the installer during the installation?
[08:29] <zykotick9> kz3, md5 check your ISO before burning
[08:29] <urlin2u> kz3, tap the shift key when powering on hit f6 at the gui, for try ubuntu, choose nomodeset and boot from there
[08:30] <bullgard6> What does the 2nd field of the status bar of OO.o Base designate?
[08:31] <zykotick9> bullgard6, have you tried asking in #Openoffice.org
[08:31] <oooaaaooo> HI guys i need help mounting an encrytped file system. I have the passphrase , just not sure how to use it to kount the filesystem
[08:31] <StaticPhilly> im using nfs4, for some reason why i copy large amounts of files the wireless dies on the client, plus it copys real slow, any ideas?
[08:31] <bullgard6> zykotick9: Yes.
[08:33] <kz3> urlin2u: tapping shift ask me "load boot graphics (y/n)?" what should I do?
[08:35] <urlin2u> kz3, not sure what that is a gui should show choose yes and try the f6 option.
[08:35] <genniii> I am just bumbling around trying to figure out what IRC is.... so hello whoever
[08:36] <genniii> I didnt know ther were f options lol
[08:36] <urlin2u> kz3, I think with omeiric any key works
[08:36] <kz3> urlin2u: after choosing nomodeset still the things are sma
[08:36] <kz3> *same
[08:37] <urlin2u> hmm not sure then you have the daily live cd
[08:37] <kz3> urlin2u:  I have the live CD
[08:38] <neokx> ok
[08:38] <urlin2u> kz3, as others suggested checking the ISO is a good idea  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[08:40] <urlin2u> kz3, sorry I had you mixed up with a user in ubuntu+1, as far as a daily release or oneiric mention
[08:41] <kz3> urlin2u: leave it dude, I will download again 10.04 and burn it again
[08:42] <zykotick9> kz3, why download it again?  check the iso you already have (if you still have it).
[08:48] <kz3> urlin2u: I deleted the ISO after downloading....downloading it again
[08:48] <calwig> Hi, is there an app where you can have weather updates of i.e. Hurricane Updates, and so on?
[08:49] <calwig> not your typical weather update applet but more of an alarm sounding app
[09:18] <illogic> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ubuntu-Users-Page/275161692509960
[09:26] <taisa> hi there, i have a problem with Banshee: i bought some music files from U1 store, activated "Import to music folder" in Banshee and now i end up with many copies of the bought music files in my music folder. Should i uncheck this option and then, how can i listen to Music from U1 store?
[09:30] <illogic> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ubuntu-Users-Page/275161692509960
[09:38] <tar-gz> Hi!
[09:38] <tar-gz> Somebody can help me? http://wklej.org/id/585916/
[09:41] <anonissimus> Is there a way I can mount my drives on boot based on drive id instead of /dev/sd**
[09:43] <rhin0> make an nfs mount?  you can create an nfs mount which mounts a volume of the same machine anonissimus
[09:43] <rhin0> so you create what is in effect a symbolic mount point
[09:43] <anonissimus> will performance be the same?
[09:44] <rhin0> its just a volume yes it's the same -- I don't think you can reference /dev/sda1 for example you can reference a mapped volume ... yes it is the same
[09:44] <rhin0> set up your exports file with localhost or 127.0.0.1 as the machine to export to
[09:44] <oCean> anonissimus: you can mount your drives specifying the UUID in /etc/fstab
[09:44] <rhin0> /etc/exports
[09:45] <oCean> anonissimus: are you talking about NFS?
[09:45] <oCean> illogic: don't spam in here
[09:45] <rhin0> I suggested he use nfs to create the desired mount points oCean
[09:45] <anonissimus> oCean: no regular drives
[09:45] <oCean> rhin0: I don't see why
[09:45] <oCean> anonissimus: sure, using the UUID is default way ubuntu identifies drives
[09:46] <anonissimus> mounting based on UUID is what I was looking for
[09:46] <rhin0> his original question - he wants to give drives his own id
[09:46] <illogic> oCean, sorry i thought people in here would be intrested
[09:46] <oCean> anonissimus: run   sudo blkid to identify your UUID / drives
[09:46] <oCean> illogic: you can try #ubuntu-offtopic, this is support only
[09:46] <anonissimus> oCean: thanks
[09:47] <illogic> oCean, can i private message you ?
[09:47] <oCean> illogic: sure
[09:50] <RB__> how to get system properties by using terminal ?
[09:50] <anonissimus> oCean: it looks like this will work flawlessly
[09:51] <anonissimus> reboot
[09:51] <Slart> RB__: what kind of properties?
[09:52] <bullgard6>  How can I make that the program man does show the text of the manuals colorful?
[09:53] <RB__> properties like "which ubuntu version is it or how much ram is install in this system etc
[09:54] <oCean> RB__: there are several ways. lsb_release -a shows release information, lspci, lsusb, lshw etc give information on your hardware configuration
[09:54] <Slart> bullgard6: this page is about slackware.. but it might be useful on ubuntu as well.. give it a try http://humanreadable.nfshost.com/sdeg/colorized_manpages.htm
[09:55] <Pang5> heloo all @ how a simple way to change *.tar.bz into *.deb..?
[09:56] <th0r> Pang5: there is no easy way
[09:56] <Pang5> th0r; thanks
[09:56] <Slart> Pang5: tried checkinstall?
[09:57] <Pang5> slart; ok
[09:57] <Slart> !checkinstall | Pang5
[09:57] <Aquix> Don't think checkinstall can make deb, just install like it was a deb
[09:58] <Slart> Aquix: it creates a deb .. not sure if it installs it as well.. but it definately creates the deb-file
[09:59] <th0r> Slart: but first you have to undo the tar.bz, configure, and compile. Which, I think, takes it out of the easy category <smile>
[10:00] <Slart> th0r: well.. the second you include "compile" in the instructions we're out of easy-land, if you ask me =)
[10:00] <Aquix> Slart -  http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/how-to-create-deb-package-ubuntu-debian.html
[10:01] <Slart> Pang5: check the link from Aquix above
[10:01] <th0r> Slart: right, and Pang5's initial question I suspect he doesn't realize what all is in that tar.bz
[10:01] <damno> terminal is behaving odd
[10:01] <Pang5> ok thanks all, i go to the link <smile>
[10:02] <Slart> th0r: correct.. might be a binary skype client or something
[10:02] <damno> I cant tab complete any file even if am in the right directory and going through the right spelling
[10:02] <oooaaaooo> Hi guys need help with mounting an ecryptfs filesystem
[10:04] <RB__> i'm using 11.04 but i don't know that current  Ubuntu is 32-bit or 64-bit  because i have install it inside the window
[10:05] <damno> anybody?
[10:05] <oCean> RB__: uname -m will tell whether you use 32 or 64bit ubuntu
[10:07] <RB__> thank u oCean
[10:07] <RB__> can i ask something more ?
[10:10] <oCean> RB__: sure
[10:11] <Slart> !xmms
[10:13] <zteam> Hi
[10:13] <zteam> just tried to install wargus
[10:14] <RB__> i have install Ubuntu thorough website directly and i want 32 bit Ubuntu but my current Ubuntu is 64 bit
[10:14] <zteam> after extracting the DATA-files from Warcraft 2 wargus says I need to extract them
[10:15] <RB__> it is because there were no option to select 32 or 64 bit user
[10:20] <oCean> RB__: you used this method? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet
[10:21] <vibhav> hi
[10:26] <bullgard6> Slart: Excellent. --  Thank you very much for your help. It works.
[10:27] <alex--> I was yesterday being told to create a recovery dvd of my windows. How to do this?
[10:27] <nitin__> hi
[10:28] <nitin__> can any1 tell me how to chat here ?
[10:28] <oCean> nitin__: you're already talking. Do you have a support question?
[10:28] <zhiwei> hi, there is no ibus icon on my top panel, I often restart ibus-daemon, and then the ibus icon comes up.
[10:28] <oCean> alex--: I'd say that would be more of a ##windows question
[10:28] <nitin__> what is Smuxi all about.. does it have any chat rooms ?
[10:30] <Slart> bullgard6: you're welcome
[10:30] <oCean> nitin__: this is ubuntu support only. I think there is a smuxi channel, no idea if it's active though.. type  /join #smuxi
[10:36] <mang0> Martinp23 what on earth are you on abuot
[10:37] <Hyperbyte> Wow
[10:38] <ttl-> oh
[10:38] <ttl-> :)
[10:39] <xlq> I've got a splitting headache.
[10:50] <vyadhaka> should I go with 11.04 or stick with 10.04
[10:51] <oCean> vyadhaka: that's difficult for others to tell. Download a CD, and try the live option
[10:51] <vyadhaka> i am going to install ubuntu on a laptop with lvm+luks
[10:52] <ionite> can anyone help me? I cannot detect my external HDD on /dev
[10:52] <ionite> i got this message: [sdb]  Result: hostbyte=DID_NO_CONNECT driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[10:52] <YankDownUnder> vyadhaka, STick with 10.04 or upgrade to 10.10...less hassle...
[10:52] <vyadhaka> oCean: i tried the live version, interface is different, that's all I could tell.
[10:52] <th0r> ionite: if it is sdb then it is already identified in /dev
[10:53] <YankDownUnder> vyadhaka, More to the picture than meets the eye...
[10:53] <ionite> th0r: but /dev doesnt show
[10:53] <anonissimus> ionite: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-922372.html
[10:53] <vyadhaka> YankDownUnder: thanks, yes thats the word i was looking for less hassle, life's too short to keep fixing stuff
[10:53] <oCean> vyadhaka: it's still up to you to make the actual choice
[10:53] <th0r> ionite: what is it you expect /dev to show?
[10:53] <oCean> vyadhaka: using kubuntu 11.04 I have no issues whatsoever
[10:54] <YankDownUnder> vyadhaka, Just telling you from a "paid and practical" perspective mate. Cheers.
[10:54] <vyadhaka> I used 10.04 but not with luks or lvm
[10:54] <ionite> th0r: 320GB external HDD but it only shows my internal HDD not the external one
[10:54] <anonissimus> ionite: that links has a nice troubleshoot procedure
[10:55] <vyadhaka> I have current setup of debian running fine with luks and lvm, there is lot of user configuration to get all the tings working.
[10:55] <Grey_Loki> Hi, i'm playing with the latest Ubuntu server (within byobu). Every time I create a new window/bash prompt, i'm told that my directory is 'unreachable'. What could be causing this?
[10:55] <ionite> anonissimus: i don't get what u mean? check out this http://paste.ubuntu.com/676482/
[10:56] <Grey_Loki> An example> craig@craigserver:(unreachable)/$
[10:56] <ionite> th0r: http://paste.ubuntu.com/676482/
[10:56] <th0r> vyadhaka: why would you want to improve on 'working well'?
[10:56] <ionite> anonissimus: then check this out http://paste.ubuntu.com/676505/
[10:56] <ionite> th0r: then check this out http://paste.ubuntu.com/676505/
[10:56] <Grey_Loki> Oh, if I cd ~ , then I get sent directly to my home directory with no issues at all.
[10:56] <vyadhaka> YankDownUnder: thanks once again. I did go through that experience with 9.10 I think, thats why I am here asking first
[10:57] <vyadhaka> th0r: well I have been trying to get Pulse working with bluetooth A2dp  for over two days now. no worth the time.
[10:58] <th0r> vyadhaka: from what I have read, bluetooth in any environment is not worth the time
[10:58] <ionite> th0r: any idea what's wrong?
[10:59] <th0r> vyadhaka: no, based on what I have read and seen here I have avoided bluetooth...there are other options
[10:59] <ionite> anonissimus: any idea what's wrong?
[11:00] <vyadhaka> th0r: heard it wrong, I had it working under 10.04 pretty much out of the box, except I couldn't figure out how to simultaneously handle HFP and A2DP like I have it setup under windows (pauses music when I receive a voip call)
[11:01] <Elefant> Hi. The Beta will be released soon, will it be possible to upgrade from beta to final? :)
[11:01] <vyadhaka> th0r: that's another reason why I wanted to try 11.04
[11:01] <ionite> can anyone help me? I cannot detect my external HDD on /dev
[11:01] <g3orge> is the new beta of 11.11 out yet?
[11:01] <Elefant> next week
[11:01] <vyadhaka> anyone using luks+lvm setup?
[11:02] <jamiewan> ionite: is it mounted on /media
[11:02] <ionite> jamiewan: nope. check this out http://paste.ubuntu.com/676505/
[11:03] <g3orge> any tools for IM on the Terminal??
[11:03] <g3orge> what IM client are you usng?
[11:04] <ionite> jamiewan: any idea?
[11:06] <poison> hi....how do i install firefox 7
[11:06] <jamiewan> ioniteno not really, lsusb, show up there
[11:06] <th0r> g3orge: irssi?
[11:06] <jamiewan> ionite:  not really, lsusb, show up there
[11:06] <g3orge> is it good??
[11:07] <th0r> g3orge: I suppose that depends on your definition of good
[11:07] <g3orge> True. I guess you prefer it instead of Pidgin
[11:08] <th0r> g3orge: I didn't say I use it. You asked if there was an im client for terminal
[11:08] <ionite> jamiewan: but what should i do to access my files?
[11:08] <LuckyStar> hi threr
[11:08] <g3orge> lol. thanks anyway
[11:09] <jamiewan> ionite: well its a bit hard to access them if you cant even see the drive, is it a usb external see if it shows up in lsusb
[11:09] <poison> anyone
[11:10] <poison> pls tell me how to install firefox 7
[11:10] <poison> firefox 6 giving error messages related to bookmarks
[11:10] <bullgard6> 'sudo mysqldump --all-databases; mysqldump: Got error:1045: Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost'. (using password: NO) when trying to connect'. How can I get rid of this error message?
[11:10] <jamiewan> poison:  http://nwlinux.com/install-firefox-7-ubuntu-using-apt-get/
[11:10] <g3orge> download it from the aurora site adn install it
[11:11] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:11] <LuckyStar>  mount -t vboxsf GPS /mnt/data tells me unknown filesystem type, what should I do
[11:11] <theadmin> poison: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/channel/
[11:11] <Jemt> Hi. OpenAl (sound) is not working for several of my games on Ubuntu 10.10 64 bits. Any suggestions? Upgrading to 11.04 is not an option
[11:11] <psycho_oreos> LuckyStar, -> #virtualbox
[11:12] <LuckyStar> psycho_oreos, well, it's ubuntu in the vbox
[11:12] <theadmin> LuckyStar: I think you want "vboxfs" rather than "vboxsf"
[11:12] <theadmin> LuckyStar: And make sure the guest addons are installed
[11:13] <LuckyStar> theadmin, they are installed, as you see, the host is ntfs
[11:13] <g3orge> th0r: is it also for IRC?? I really don't like anything else??
[11:13] <LuckyStar> th0r, heh
[11:14] <g3orge> IRC for the terminal anyone?
[11:14] <theadmin> g3orge: irssi, weechat
[11:14] <StevenR> g3orge: I use irssi
[11:14] <th0r> g3orge: actually...my bad. irssi is for irc, not im
[11:15] <theadmin> g3orge: As for IM in terminal, you could use Finch
[11:16] <g3orge> Thx evryone. Gonna check them out.
[11:17] <alex--> I love Ubuntu <3
[11:17] <Maxell> Hey guys! I'm trying to get Ubuntu for my NSLU2, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/NSLU2 , but that link isnt working anymore. Should I get http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/natty/main/installer-armel/current/images/versatile/netboot/ ?
[11:18] <ah-berg> How can I setup  Ubuntu to let rtorrent use  one network (eth0) and any other program use (wlan0)?
[11:18] <neokx> how i create the cd iso for install ubuntu
[11:18] <neokx> ?
[11:18] <poison> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5A9BF3BB4E5E17B5
[11:18] <poison> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:18] <poison> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:19] <poison> im getting above error while updating
[11:19] <poison> help me
[11:19] <alex--> neokx: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[11:19] <theadmin> neokx: Burn it with your favorite burning program. On Windows, I suggest imgburn. On Linux systems, there is cdrecord. On OS X, you have Disk Utility.
[11:19] <theadmin> poison: Do a reboot and try again
[11:19] <neokx> i have nero burning room
[11:19] <dfrgmsc> You should update system as root.
[11:19] <neokx> cant you tell how
[11:19] <StevenR> poison: find the process that's using it
[11:20] <alex-->     Download and install Infra Recorder, a free and open-source image-burning program.
[11:20] <alex-->     Insert a blank CD in the drive and select Do nothing or Cancel if an autorun dialog box pops up.
[11:20] <Maxell> poison: close all other updating tools
[11:20] <alex-->     Open Infra Recorder and click the 'Write Image' button in the main screen.
[11:20] <alex-->         Alternatively you can select the 'Actions' menu, then 'Burn image'.
[11:20] <alex-->     Select the Ubuntu CD image file you want to use, then click 'Open'.
[11:20] <FloodBot1> alex--: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:20] <alex-->     In the dialog box, click 'OK'.
[11:20] <dfrgmsc> use sudo in terminal may help
[11:20] <neokx> infra recorder
[11:20] <theadmin> neokx: Any program that can burn images will do, really.
[11:24] <Sidewinder1> neokx, Don't forget to md5sum the ISO image, after downloading, but before burning.
[11:24] <g3orge> F-word. Weechat needs Java and I have problems installing it.
[11:24] <theadmin> g3orge: Sorry? weechat is not supposed to need Java.
[11:24] <Maxell> Hey guys! I'm trying to get Ubuntu for my NSLU2, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/NSLU2 , but that link isnt working anymore. What installer-armel or di-nslu2.bin should I get?
[11:24] <StevenR> g3orge: finch or irssi then.
[11:26] <g3orge> yeah. I'll try something else
[11:28] <raven> lirc - how to verify input-signals?
[11:31] <MInner> Good morning, guys. I have a problem installing ubuntu on my PC: "In APT sources no matching kernel was found" - or something like that. Ubuntu 11.04, hp tablet pc tc1100 . Thanks beforehand.
[11:32] <cse> hi
[11:34] <linux> buongiorno
[11:35] <alex--> linux: what are you saynig?
[11:35] <alex--> cse: hi
[11:35] <theadmin> alex--: That was "good day" in Italian I think
[11:35] <theadmin> !it | linux
[11:37] <alex--> Can I get your opinion? Thunderbird or Evolution?
[11:38] <linux> Overflow
[11:38] <oCean> alex--: please don't take polls in this channel
[11:38] <theadmin> alex--: mutt :P
[11:38] <black> van magyar?
[11:39] <EgyParadox> !best
[11:40] <alex--> Nah, for a browser I use Firefox.
[11:41] <alex--> Most people do
[11:41] <alex--> Do people use Evolution more, or Thunderbird?
[11:41] <oCean> alex--: stop it now
[11:41] <theadmin> alex--: Thunderbird possibly has more users (it IS crossplatform), but there's no "better" choice.
[11:43] <tomatto_> hi
[11:45] <monotonia> I was changing xfce's window style, than it crashed, and I log out whenever I try to log with xfce. How can I fix it through setting files?
[11:46] <tomatto_> please, i installed ubuntu in english language and after it, i can't change, czech language is disabled, but i installed it before i want to choose...is there any different tool for choose language for graphical environment?
[11:46] <C0ol_H3retic> hey guys, does grub4dos fromat a drive if i want to install an iso saved from an external hard drive?
[11:48] <xangua> tomatto_: log out and select the language you want on gdm login window
[11:50] <adante> what unification filesystem do hte ubuntu livecd's use?
[11:50] <C0ol_H3retic> tomatto_, HOPE Xangua's advise helped
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> adante: the files are stored in a squashfs file as far as I know
[11:53] <whiz_> what's a hacked brain?
[11:53] <theadmin> adante: squashfs it is
[11:53] <theadmin> whiz_: lolwut?
[11:53] <whiz_> theadmin, a brain that's been hacked ... whats a hacked brain?
[11:54] <adante> theadmin: hm, but isn't the fs writeable?
[11:54] <theadmin> adante: I'm not exactly sure *how* squashfs works...
[11:54] <neokx> ok i have the iso
[11:54] <neokx> and now waht
[11:54] <theadmin> whiz_: ...I seriously think you have the wrong channel
[11:54] <neokx> waht
[11:54] <adante> i'm trying to find a unification filesystem for ubuntu
[11:54] <Sidewinder1> md5sum | neokx
[11:54] <adante> seeing as aufs has been "superseded"
[11:55] <billy> hi - trying to remember a text find & replace command and it is not sed - anyone?
[11:55] <adante> and unionfs-fuse does not seem to do anything i would consider FUSE
[11:55] <Sidewinder1> !md5sum | neokx
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> !find unionfs
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> !info unionfs-fuse
[11:56] <deltafoss> mplayer doesnt work on my system
[11:56] <deltafoss> 10.4
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> deltafoss: can you expand on "doesn't work" please
[11:56] <Sidewinder1> neokx, This link should answer all/most of your questions. :-)  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php
[11:57] <deltafoss> i hope is not too much to paste here: mplayer: relocation error: mplayer: symbol codec_wav_tags, version LIBAVFORMAT_52 not defined in file libavformat.so.52 with link time reference
[12:03] <orchata> Hey, what is up guys. I just a got a 3g modem and it is up and running. I need to share it with 3 other computers in my room via wifi. Other computers are Win7, mine is ubuntu 11.04.
[12:04] <damo22> orchata: you have a wifi access point i assume hooked up to the 3g modem?
[12:04] <theadmin> orchata: My idea would be to get a router with support for such a modem (e.g. D-Link DIR-320 (is what I have))
[12:05] <orchata> I have a 3g modem connected to my laptop
[12:05] <theadmin> !ics | orchata, you might want to take a look
[12:05] <damo22> orchata: does your 3g modem have a ethernet output?
[12:05] <orchata> damo22: I don't know
[12:06] <damo22> orchata: or is it USB only
[12:06] <orchata> damo22: Oh, it is usb
[12:06] <damo22> orchata: problem then..... you need to leave your laptop on all the time for the other pcs to gain access
[12:06] <orchata> damo22:  yes I know, and that is not a problem for me
[12:07] <orchata> It will be always on
[12:08] <damo22> orchata: usb sucks
[12:08] <theadmin> orchata: Check the link I mentioned.
[12:09] <raven> lirc - how to verify input-signals?
[12:09] <ax> hellp
[12:09] <Guest12244> hi
[12:11] <Romeoava> I want to instal a Linux in a Asus eee Pc 4G. Please give me some advices
[12:11] <Romeoava> someone sad that Linux Puppy
[12:11] <xangua> Romeoava: install ubuntu¿
[12:11] <theadmin> Reikoku: Is "4G" the amount of disk space you have?
[12:11] <theadmin> xangua: Ubuntu's NOT gonna fit in 4 gigs
[12:12] <bazhang> theadmin, sure it does, I have it on mine
[12:12] <Romeoava> sometink that is working
[12:12] <dropmouse> hey all- I'm loooking for a GUI frontend for sniffing logs... maybe like a snort frontend (for ubuntu) it's been years since I've looked through logs..
[12:12] <theadmin> bazhang: Well, I doubt it operates properly though
[12:12] <bazhang> Romeoava, use unetbootin and a flash usb stick to do it
[12:12] <xangua> theadmin: why would not¿
[12:12] <bazhang> theadmin, it certainly works fine.
[12:12] <Romeoava> I think the Hard disck is 4 GB
[12:12] <dropmouse> most importantly i'd like just a general tool to scour common logs and display content
[12:13] <theadmin> bazhang: And you even have enough space to operate with new packages?
[12:13] <theadmin> dropmouse: gnome-system-log is the one that's built right into Ubuntu
[12:13] <theadmin> dropmouse: It works fine
[12:13] <Romeoava> I willuse a usb creator fromubuntu
[12:13] <bazhang> theadmin, yes. it is very well documented. please research this
[12:13] <dropmouse> theadmin: thanks
[12:14] <theadmin> Romeoava: Well, according to what bazhang says here... However, I'd seriously consider using Xubuntu or another more-lightweight distro... Unity is just too much for a graphic card of a EeePC I beleive
[12:14] <Romeoava> ok
[12:14] <bazhang> Romeoava, thats fine, or unetbootin; you have to hold down the esc key until the bios boot screen shows, to choose the usb stick to boot, and after selecting it as well.
 I had have some trubles before
[12:15] <Romeoava> and I sucseed with USB creator
[12:15] <Romeoava> My question is Which one
[12:15] <Romeoava> ?
[12:16] <theadmin> Romeoava: I successfully installed Arch with Xfce on a 2GB-eeePC a few months ago, and even had around 200MB free space left xD
[12:16] <theadmin> Romeoava: However, if you're new to Linux, that's not really an option
 arch is to complicated, I think
[12:16] <theadmin> Romeoava: If you're looking for a web-centric OS, might as well try Peppermint
[12:17] <Romeoava> What about <Puppy>
[12:17] <Romeoava> ?
[12:17] <bazhang> theadmin, please stick to ubuntu support here. those are not supported oses
[12:17] <neokx> yes
[12:17] <neokx> my file is corret
[12:17] <neokx> so now
[12:17] <neokx> i check md5
[12:17] <theadmin> Romeoava: As you see, we do not support other distros here. You can go to #ubuntu-offtopic or PM me if you'd like help with that choice
[12:18] <Anon1234> Hi, I've a problem - a new ubuntu upgrade (to natty) hangs on shut down. What log should I look at
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> Romeoava: if you drop the < > stuff it will make hightlighting work properly
[12:21] <snufft> i'm having a problem sharing folders with Samba and with mounting drives. i've permanently mounted the two drives that the sahred folders are on, using  storage device manager (PySDM?) and the icons for both drives now appear on the desktop when i log into the machine. the only problem is that until i actually double click both drives to open them, samba can't seem to see them.
[12:21] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: I wouldn't worry about that, I get highlighted correctly
[12:21]  * theadmin has to go
 I'm an Ubuntu fan
[12:23] <snufft> then the other thing is that when i have double clicked these drives and samba can recognise them (so that you can play with permissions through Samba Server Configuration), although windows users can see the folders that I've shared, they can't go into any of them.
[12:24] <E3D3_1> Yesterday I installed painless for the first time LVM by using Ubuntu Alternate version. Who can show me good (beginners-) tutorials to explore LVM further ?
[12:24] <bazhang> !lvm | E3D3_1
[12:25] <snufft> in Server settings in samba i've set the security auth mode to share and guest account to nobody, but regardless of whether i set a folder as  access by me and nobody, or Allow Access to everyone, windows users stll can't get into the folders
[12:25] <Kre10s_> is there an application that creates a gtk alert box?
[12:26] <Kre10s_> something i can use from the command line like gtk_alert_user "something happened"
[12:26] <E3D3_1> bazhang: Thanks but that LVM-howto is from 2006-11-27 & not really usefull for me, maybe you know another ??
[12:29] <bazhang> E3D3_1, apart from the natty perfect server guide, I am afraid I do not
[12:29] <Romeoava> What about 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)
[12:29] <E3D3_1> bazhang: This are my best LVM starters-info: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/40702   & http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/36568
[12:29] <E3D3_1> Still thank you for trying.
 What about 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)
[12:31] <bazhang> Romeoava, what about it, what is your question
[12:32] <Romeoava> this sis anetbook edition
[12:32] <neokx> help
[12:33] <neokx> my boot disc dosend work
[12:33] <neokx> dont work
[12:33] <compdoc> disc? cd?
[12:33] <neokx> dvd
[12:33] <neokx> iso image
[12:33] <dropmouse> hey, i'm looking through my ufw (firewall) logs... I see a bunch of BLOCKED stuff in there... should I be worried, or is it normal for lots of machine to try and connect with me?
[12:34] <compdoc> neokx, does your dvd drive work?
[12:34] <Sidewinder1> neokx, You may need to set your BIOS boot order to boot to the CD/DVD first.
[12:34] <neokx> yes but dont lisen
[12:34] <neokx> :P
[12:34] <orchata> How do I launch network manager with root privilegies?
[12:35] <neokx> i order to boot to the dvd but windows star again
[12:35] <neokx> i try one more time i come back
[12:36] <dropmouse> orchata? good question- i always have to run my admin programs with sudo from the terminal
[12:36] <orchata> dropmouse:  How do I run network manger from terminal?
[12:36] <dropmouse> whats thename of the applicvation?
[12:37] <dropmouse> lets say i want to run zenmap with admin... open terminal and "sudo zenmap"
[12:37] <huldrekall> isn't gnome-network-applet?
[12:38] <orchata> dropmouse: Network Connections
[12:40] <orchata> anybody?
[12:40] <devish> nm
[12:41] <E3D3_1> Sorry, I cant  recognize it in my system monitor nor when right clicking on my network tool.
[12:41] <dropmouse> orchata, i'm sorry I don't know which application you're speaking of... if you could find out what command is associated with that application - you can sudo it from the term.
[12:42] <E3D3_1> i think its called nm-applet
[12:42] <dropmouse> oh, orchata, are you talking about the Netwrok Connections in Ubuntu, right at the top?
[12:42] <dropmouse> you're not logged in as an admin?
[12:43] <orchata> yes
[12:43] <orchata> I mean no
[12:43] <orchata> :D
[12:45] <arussel`> what tools can I use to create a from a dvd one of this format: ASF, AVI, DAT, DivX, MP4, MPEG1, MPEG2, MPEG4, VOB, WMV, XviD , and which one would be the easiest ?
[12:46] <arussel`> I'm trying to see dvd with my synoloyg station
[12:47] <Sidewinder1> arussel`, It's not FOSS, but you might have a look at Nero for Linux.
[12:48] <Sidewinder1> arussel`, I'm sorry, I have never heard of " synoloyg".
[12:48] <jubei> guys how can I change the default user gnome logs on?
[12:48] <dropmouse> orchata: are you talkin about this "Network Connections" window? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager0.7
[12:49] <arussel`> Sidewinder1: it is just a NAS based on linux that has a upnp server that accept all those formats
[12:49] <Sidewinder1> NAS?
[12:49] <iceroot> Sidewinder1: network attached storage
[12:50] <Sidewinder1> Like "Cloud"?
[12:50] <iceroot> Sidewinder1: like a pc offering a hdd over nfs/cifs
[12:50] <Sidewinder1> WAN or LAN?
[12:50] <duartman> hi guys, i need a big/small help, my audio pitch is not correct! how can i change that :)?
[12:51] <iceroot> Sidewinder1: normally lan
[12:52] <Sidewinder1> iceroot, In that case I'll "but-out"; you lost me with nfs/cifs... Not that it's particularly unusual for me to get lost, these days. :-(
[12:52] <Sidewinder1> :-)
[12:53] <iceroot> Sidewinder1: cifs = samba, nfs = the linux-way to share something over lan
[12:53] <iceroot> Sidewinder1: network file system
[12:54] <arussel`> handbrake seems to do the job
[12:54] <Kre10s_> iceroot, what are the authentication options for nfs? I remeber that being a problem.
[12:55] <iceroot> Kre10s_: nfs (version 3) only support ip-based auth. nfs (version 4) also supporting user-based auth (based on uid)
[12:55] <Sidewinder1> iceroot, Many thanks, I don't use samba (at least not knowingly, other than Remote Desktop); that's why I'm unfamiliar with configuration of same.
[12:56] <CyrusJ> Hi everybody, I am new to Ubuntu and I want to install Nvidia Drivers from SH file.. But it requires that i shutdown my X server.I dont know how to do it.. Can u guys help me ?
[12:56] <iceroot> Kre10s_: but the main problem are different uids. e.g. you are sharing /home/fof/bar which belongs to the user foo (uid 1000) and you are mounting that on a machine where the user foo has the uid 1001 nfs dont know its the same user
[12:56]  * arussel` gives a go at ogmrip
[12:57] <iceroot> !nvidia | CyrusJ
[12:57] <iceroot> CyrusJ: to stop the x-server "sudo service gdm stop" but the sh file is normally the wrong way (see link from ubottu )
[12:57] <jutta> hi
[12:57] <CyrusJ> Thanks...
[12:59] <jutta> i have an annozing prblem, I have a german laptop, and therefore I set the german kezboard layout, but ubuntu keeps changing to USA lazout, again and again, even after I have removed the USA lazout
[13:00] <iceroot> jutta: on gnome/unity or lxde?
[13:00] <jutta> anyone could help me solving that?
[13:00] <jutta> iceflatline, I am on gnome
[13:01] <DuartmaN> anyone helps me with my audio setup?
[13:01] <iceroot> jutta: http://pastebin.com/r5hFUR5G  put that in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:01] <DuartmaN> my audio pitch is not corrct
[13:01] <iceroot> jutta: maybe change the keyboard-type because i am on a asus eeepc
[13:01] <iceroot> jutta: i was having the same problem but only with lxde
[13:03] <jutta> iceroot, I will try, but do you know why it does not work to remove?
[13:04] <iceroot> jutta: the problem (on lxde) was that it is trying to aqutodetect the keyboard with udev and udev is telling my system that i have a qwerty keyboard. so i put that into xorg.conf to overwrite the udev-settings
[13:04] <iceroot> jutta: lxde is not storing the layout i choose. dont know what gnome is doing
[13:04] <jutta> iceroot, thanks
[13:05] <iceroot> jutta: but the problem still exists when using tty1 instead of tty7 (xserver)
[13:06] <deltafoss> how do i create a bootable flash drive
[13:06] <deltafoss> from an iso
[13:06] <iceroot> !usb | deltafoss
[13:06] <bazhang> deltafoss, with unetbootin
[13:06] <ian__> i have a lenovo x220 and the webcam stopped working. it doesnt show up on lsinput. not sure whats up.
[13:06] <deltafoss> tanx
[13:07] <deltafoss> bazhang: can i install ubuntu in my flash drive?
[13:07] <iceroot> deltafoss: second link from ubottu
[13:08] <deltafoss> k
[13:15] <neokx> im back
[13:15] <neokx> from my new  so
[13:15] <neokx> unbutu
[13:17] <zayed> may i ask a question about ubuntu desktop here?
[13:17] <Gentoo64> zayed, of course
[13:18] <zayed> how to uninstall a printer driver?
[13:18] <zayed> i have wrongly choose the driver version when doing installation on ubntu
[13:19] <zayed> i have to choose lexmark z25 but i didnt i had choose z22
[13:19] <Gentoo64> how did you install it?
[13:20] <zayed> updating
[13:20] <Gentoo64> try synaptic package manager
[13:20] <Gentoo64> and search for it
[13:20] <Gentoo64> or apt-get remove
[13:20] <Gentoo64> ?
[13:20] <FloodBot1> Gentoo64: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:22] <zayed> im sorry
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> zayed: just remove the printer in printer dialogue, is the driver not part of the default OS?
[13:23] <Stoopit> i installed ubuntu 11.04 in a virtualbox virtual machine, i installed the guest addons (or whats it called, i use a Dutch virtualbox)
[13:23] <Stoopit> but the resolution ownt change if i resize the window
[13:23] <Stoopit> any ideas?
[13:24] <yeats> Stoopit: you might ask in #vbox
[13:24] <zayed> thanks you both Gentoo64 and actionparsnip
[13:24] <Stoopit> yeats, nope, its an ubuntu problem
[13:24] <Gentoo64> zayed, ok. sorry i wasnt sure if you installed it manually or not
[13:24] <Stoopit> yeats, i never had this problem before, only with ubuntu 11.04
[13:24] <Gentoo64> Stoopit, well ubuntu cant control vbox
[13:25] <zayed> hey no need to be sorry it is like that  we learn from each other
[13:25] <Stoopit> Gentoo64, that's like saying a car can't have problems with its parts
[13:25] <Gentoo64> i think resizing the window and changing res is vbox specific though
[13:26] <Stoopit> nope
[13:26] <Gentoo64> ok
[13:26] <Stoopit> the guest additions provide this feature
[13:26] <Sidewinder1> neokx, Congrats! :-)
[13:26] <Stoopit> (and yes i rebooted, so x was definitely restarted)
[13:27] <Gentoo64> Stoopit, i havent tried vbox in about 2 years but it never was 100% smooth experience
[13:28] <Stoopit> Gentoo64, i use it for years, and never had any problems, as long as the guest additions were installed
[13:28] <Stoopit> guess i should be used by now to ubuntu breaking more and more crap in each release :(
[13:28] <Gentoo64> well.. i wouldnt go that far
[13:28] <Gentoo64> you are running it in a vm after all
[13:28] <Gentoo64> which sucks
[13:29] <Stoopit> no its quite common
[13:29] <Gentoo64> i know
[13:29] <Stoopit> i have multiboot too
[13:29] <Gentoo64> yep
[13:29] <Stoopit> but i use a vm for some stuff so i dont need to reboot
[13:29] <Stoopit> more practical
[13:29] <Stoopit> i use windows fairly much for photoshop and some messing with UDK (game engine)
[13:30] <Gentoo64> why ubuntu in vm then?
[13:30] <zayed> can i use a a windows xp driver on ubuntu ?
[13:30] <Gentoo64> no
[13:30] <zayed> i mean: for my printer driver lexmark z25
[13:31] <Gentoo64> def not
[13:31] <janisozaur> hello, what do you use as a preferred hex editor?
[13:32] <Gentoo64> janisozaur, i think theres some in the software centre
[13:33] <stp> hi
[13:33] <E3D3_1> Stoopit: misschienmoejemintproberen
[13:34] <Stoopit> E3D3_1, nah
[13:34] <Hai> hi
[13:34] <Gentoo64> hi
[13:34] <Hai> I'm trying to install ubuntu on Asus em350
[13:35] <Hai> i created a usb boot
[13:35] <Hai> but it gets stuck on a flashing cursor
[13:35] <Hai> i downloaded the newest version, 64 bit
[13:35] <willclay8> hello.
[13:35] <Gentoo64> Hai, is your comp 64 bit?
[13:36] <Hai> I checked and the processor claims to be 64
[13:36] <Hai> the netbook came with xp
[13:36] <Skummel> what cpu you actually got in it?
[13:36] <Gentoo64> what is it, asus, acer, or emachines?
[13:36] <Gentoo64> google dont find asus
[13:36] <Hai> intel atom
[13:36] <yeats> Hai: did you md5sum the .iso file?
[13:36] <Hai> emachines
[13:37] <Hai> i did not
[13:37] <yeats> Hai: you might do that first, to verify that the image didn't get corrupted in the download
[13:37] <Hai> I'm trying the 32 bit version now
[13:37] <Gentoo64> its rare the md5 fails but worth a try
[13:37] <Hai> ah right will do
[13:37] <pisto> hi. I want to install the latest version of the ATI proprietary from the website, but it asks to uninstall the previous version first. I don't have any uninstaller in /usr/share/ati. Shall I force the new installation?
[13:37] <Hai> thanks
[13:38] <Gentoo64> i heard people before getting that flashing cursor, maybe try a different usb making tool?
[13:38] <Hai> i tried two already
[13:38] <Hai> btw i made the usb on a diff machine, with windows
[13:38] <Gentoo64> pisto, cant you do it from ubuntu driver manager?
[13:38] <Dave888> Hai install the 32bit version for a netbook
[13:38] <Dave888> Don't be a redneck
[13:38] <Gentoo64> lol
[13:38] <Gentoo64> no
[13:38] <yeats> Hai: can you get to the installer menu? or does it go straight to the black screen/blinking cursor?
[13:39] <Hai> blank screen with blinkinb _
[13:39] <willclay8> having issues running dual monitors.  Running 11.04. Using an Acer apire one (d257-13450) and the second monitor is an Acer S231HL.
[13:39] <Hai> it did say Syslinux something for a split second
[13:39] <Hai> no menu
[13:39] <pisto> Gentoo64, I didn't know I could do it from there, I thought that I couldn't because I didn't install them in the first place from the driver manager, but manually vfrom the website. so, am I safe to unistall them from the manager?
[13:39] <Gentoo64> pisto, yea
[13:40] <Gentoo64> pisto, but install them from the driver manager rather from website
[13:40] <yeats> Hai: someone reported the same issue yesterday... we werent' able to help in the end - hopefully 32-bit will work :-/
[13:40] <Gentoo64> pisto, otherwise its a mess and it cant be tracked easily
[13:40] <pisto> Gentoo64, I see. so, right now, I don't need to upgrade because the upgrades manager doesn't tell me anything?
[13:40] <Gentoo64> pisto, thats right
[13:41] <Gentoo64> pisto, the website might have newer ones but i doubt theyll change anything
[13:41] <Hai> I will try and let you guys know ;)
[13:41] <pisto> thanks for clarity.
[13:41] <kaellan> how to deactivate tuchpad on laptops wen using ubuntu ?
[13:42] <Stoopit> did anyone else install buuntu 11.04 as a virtualbox guest?
[13:42] <willclay8> dual monitors issue...
[13:42] <BluesKaj> kaellan, install synaptiks
[13:42] <kaellan> BluesKaj, thx alot :D
[13:43] <Skummel> willclay8 what kind of gpu you got?
[13:44] <willclay8> i think it is intel
[13:45] <willclay8> im using an aspire one d257-13450
[13:45] <Hai> Guys, thank you so much!
[13:45] <Hai> The 32 bit worked ;)
[13:45] <Kingsy_> can I install wol on ubuntu rather than wakeonlan ?
[13:45] <Hai> Thanks a lot!
[13:45] <yeats> Hai: great!
[13:47] <jackoriper> hi, new laptop sony vaio ( vpceh16en) installed with ubuntu 10.10,  onboard sound still coming out  even though head/ear phones are used ? pls assist, tried for intel 82801aa ac'97 drivers ,but could not find them for ubuntu  ?
[13:48] <pr0d> Hi all, im trying to get my r8168 ethernet, but every single guide i have followed fails. I can insmod the driver once i have done a make and dumped the driver in /src but all install scripts fail. Any help would be hugely appreciated
[13:49] <compdoc> the r8169 is supported. you would think others would be too
[13:50] <pr0d> Ive had this problem on opensuse, but the installer worked a charm.
[13:50] <compdoc> what verson of Ubuntu?
[13:51] <pr0d> I am on oneiric but +1 is quiet today :S
[13:51] <Stoopit> E3D3_1, apt-get install dkms solved it
[13:51] <debaimbo> Hello everyone. Today my Ubuntu 10.04 doesnt work, and I am sure I havent done anything strange yesterday. When I get to the grub screen, If I select any of the Ubuntu entries it just waits... and waits... and then spits out a list of errors, like it can't read sda and stuff. But if I select the windows entry that OS works fine. Right now I am using the Ubuntu live-cd and from here I can see all the files in my hard disk
[13:54] <yeats> debaimbo: I would boot into a live CD and run fsck on the Ubuntu partition
[13:55] <Skummel> debaimbo: sounds like an error in the file system. check it for errors.
[13:55] <yeats> debaimbo: which you can do in the System -> Administration -> Disk Utility if you like a GUI
[13:55] <debaimbo> ok, I am running the livecd right now
[13:56] <raven> how to deactivate the keyring question?
[13:56] <zayed> this device can not be remove until the virtual machine is off. i cannot remove my printer somebody help?
[13:56] <fission_> debaimbo,can you mount the parition in the livecd system
[13:57] <debaimbo> yes!
[13:57] <debaimbo> I see all the files
[13:57] <zayed> this virtual machine is powered off*****
[13:57] <debaimbo> for example, I can backup all the files from here
[13:58] <debaimbo> I just can`t start the system
[13:58] <kalimann> hi there, I have an issue with my audio. it simply wont play anything as I have explained a bit deeper in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1834537. No one has answered me so far though, so I'd love if someone could help me out now
[13:58] <zayed> someone help me please im a nove
[13:59] <zayed> novice****
[14:00] <debaimbo> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fsck
[14:00] <debaimbo> fsck 1.41.4 (27-Jan-2009)
[14:00] <Stoopit> i go to preferences -> apprearance, i lcikc another theme, change a color
[14:01] <voxcroix> zayed: yes
[14:01] <Stoopit> and ubuntu doesnt change the color
[14:01] <Stoopit> what should i do?
[14:01] <Stoopit> is this another new "feature" ?
[14:01] <zayed> i can not remove my printer from ubuntu
[14:01] <fission_> debaimbo, do you change the grub.cfg file, or can your grub find the system root partition?
[14:01] <zayed> desktop on virtual machine
[14:02] <debaimbo> I dont know
[14:02] <jackoriper> Hi, my laptop still plays sound out  in even headphones are being plugged in ? this is distrubing ppl around me, i want soung only in headphones
[14:02] <zayed> it keep saying*** this device can not be remover until the virtual machine is powered off
[14:02] <willclay8> thanks  skummel.. I am reading over your link now. I have not tried classic gnome. ill read over your link some first..
[14:03] <yeats> debaimbo: try going to System -> Administration -> Disk Utility
[14:04] <debaimbo> yeats, I am running an old livecd
[14:04] <debaimbo> i dont have that disk utility
[14:04] <debaimbo> although i have gparted
[14:04] <yeats> debaimbo: okay - then do you know which partition Ubuntu is on? (do sudo fdisk -l to see all partitions)
[14:05] <Stoopit> seriously!
[14:05] <Stoopit> what do i do to change the default theme colors?!?
[14:05] <Stoopit> this is driving me crazy
[14:05] <Stoopit> and why is it broken?
[14:05] <soreau> Stoopit: What DE?
[14:06] <Stoopit> soreau, gnome
[14:06] <soreau> Stoopit: unity? gnome2? 3?
[14:06] <Stoopit> soreau, the same gnome that i9've been using for years now
[14:06] <Stoopit> before ubuntu started to make unity default
[14:06] <Stoopit> (worst decision ever btw)
[14:07] <Skummel> gnome2 then :p
[14:07] <Stoopit> yeah i think so
[14:07] <Stoopit> didnt even know there was a 3
[14:07] <debaimbo> yeats , the output of that command is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/676575/
[14:07] <bastidrazor> Stoopit: and all the times you've been using it, you've never went and look at Appereances in the Preferences ?
[14:07] <soreau> Stoopit: You should be able to change the gtk theme in gnome-appearance-properties
[14:07] <Stoopit> bastidrazor, of course i did, ubuntu does not save it anymore....
[14:07] <kalimann> seriouly, no one with any expertise who can help me with my missing audio problem? its the only thing keeping me from getting on with linux
[14:07] <bastidrazor> xm
[14:08] <Stoopit> bastidrazor, please don't respond to me anymore you arrogant bastard
[14:08] <yeats> debaimbo: try this: 'sudo e2fsck -f /dev/sda1'
[14:08] <soreau> Stoopit: Perhaps a permissions issue
[14:08] <fission_> debaimbo, you should address the program first, maybe it is the grub.cfg file.you can search the key word "grub" for more
[14:08] <yeats> !attitude | Stoopit
[14:08] <Stoopit> yeats, ah so the volunteers can abuse me?
[14:08] <Skummel> kalimann what kind of soundcard you got?
[14:09] <jamesanslow> I have installed Ubutu server but cannot ssh into it remotely (I can ssh in locally). I have sshd_config configured to log to AUTH with loglevel DEBUG but I dont get any log entries from ssh in /var/log. Can anyone assist or offer advice?
[14:09] <kalimann> skummel, its intel i think
[14:09] <Stoopit> soreau, when i came in i said the new color didn't get saved, sorry you must have not read that, i should have repeated it
[14:10] <Stoopit> was some time ago
[14:10] <EgyParadox> jamesanslow: Check your firewall configuration
[14:10] <kalimann> skummel, its an acer aspire 3830t
[14:10] <jackoriper> Skummel:  Hi, my laptop still plays sound out  in even headphones are being plugged in ? this is distrubing ppl around me, i want soung only in headphones
[14:10] <jamesanslow> EgyParadox I can see the ssh service remote with nmap and get asked for a password. But denied when I enter my password with 'permission denied' error.
[14:11] <poppler> hello there
[14:11] <soreau> kalimann: Use 'lspci' command to find the exact model of your audio chipset
[14:11] <mrdeb> hi popple, welcome to ubuntu
[14:11] <Stoopit> since i cannot even change the theme then this was the very last time i used ubuntu :( it's not half as nice anymore as it was 2-3 years ago :( i've never been more disappointed in my life
[14:11] <soreau> jackoriper: Did you check settings in alsamixer?
[14:12] <debaimbo> yeats , it says `WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
[14:12] <debaimbo> SEVERE filesystem damage.`
[14:12] <poppler> does the ubuntu desktop DVD support installation on pre-existing LVM partitions? Or do I compulsory need the alternate CD ?
[14:12] <Skummel> debaimbo unmount the filesystem
[14:12] <yeats> debaimbo: do 'sudo mount' and paste the output please
[14:12] <soreau> poppler: IIRC, you want the alt iso for lvm
[14:12] <soreau> ! lvm | poppler
[14:13] <yeats> debaimbo: paste*bin* the output that is ;-)
[14:13] <voita> Someone who knows how to boot a netbook from usb? Bios does not find the USB and I do not have access to grub on computer. Please!
[14:13] <poppler> soreau: I see... but there is no alternate DVD, only alt CD? right?
[14:13] <kalimann> soreau, can i send you the text feed? cant see excactly where the name is
[14:13] <soreau> ! pastebin | kalimann
[14:14] <debaimbo> yeats , I unmounted that hard drive
[14:14] <yeats> debaimbo: ah - okay - then try e2fsck again
[14:14] <debaimbo> ok
[14:14] <soreau> kalimann: You could try to narrow it down with something like 'lspci|grep -i audio'
[14:15] <kalimann> soreau, Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller
[14:15] <EgyParadox> jamesanslow: Are logging on with root?
[14:15] <debaimbo> yeats, it says `Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes` and waits
[14:15] <voita> Someone who knows how to boot a netbook from usb? Bios does not find the USB and I do not have access to grub on computer. Please!
[14:15] <jamesanslow> EgyParadox: I have solved the issue - it was to do with my BIND setup
[14:16] <__sorin__> Hi! What comes with most Linux distributions by default, xclip or xsel? Is xclip part of X.org?
[14:16] <yeats> debaimbo: good - let it work - may take a while...
[14:16] <E3D3_1> poppler: I installed this Ubuntu yesterday with the alternate cd, you have to update/install manually after it. Do you have some beginners-advice/sites where I can learn more (besides tldp.org/LVM-HowTO) ?
[14:17] <debaimbo> yeats , it says `Error reading block 6029317 (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read) while getting next inode from scan.  Ignore error<y>? `
[14:17] <poppler> E3D3_1: I don't E3D3_1, I learnt lvm the hard way with the command line, a long time ago
[14:17] <poppler> sorry
[14:18] <deltafoss> any workarround to apt-get remove packages from a squashed file system? need to reduce the FS size.
[14:18] <deltafoss> from a chrooted zone
[14:18] <poppler> E3D3_1: anyway lvm commands are pretty simple, the lvm howtos should do the trick
[14:18] <E3D3_1> poppler: Because the lach of info on the internet am I afraid that its worthless concept but you suggest its okay ? I will also read every command in the terminal. Thanks
[14:18] <voita> is it possible to configure a bootable usb (xubuntu lucid) in order for bios to find it?
[14:18] <yeats> debaimbo: try answering 'y' or 'yes'
[14:19] <poppler> E3D3_1: yes, I've been using lvm for 2 years now, never had a problem and it's pretty handy
[14:19] <debaimbo> yeats , now it says `Force rewrite<y>? `
[14:20] <poppler> E3D3_1: you just need to understand the basic commands like pvcreate lvcreate lvchange
[14:20] <yeats> debaimbo: 'y' or 'yes'
[14:20] <kalimann> soreau, you findin out anything?
[14:20] <poppler> E3D3_1: and it's not completely true that you don't find documentation on the internet, look for the redhat (yeah I know) documentation on lvm
[14:21] <E3D3_1> poppler:  I installed LVM with the alternate Ubuntu CD, do you know if I can use pvmove ?
[14:21] <poppler> E3D3_1: yes, I suppose you can use all the commands lvm understands
[14:21] <E3D3_1> poppler: That is 2 page with less inof than wikipedia ?
[14:22] <poppler> mmh what?
[14:22] <soreau> !intelhda | kalimann
[14:23] <hypnin>  Hello, I would like to know if there's a possibility to work on a graduation thesis with Ubuntu/Canonical for a student
[14:23] <poppler> E3D3_1: the tldp howto seems pretty comprehensive http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[14:23] <Skummel> hypnin I think this is the wrong place to ask.
[14:24] <debaimbo> yeats, it found another 4 errors  and I kept pressing `y`, now it waits, i guess its checking something
[14:24] <jackoriper> soreau: i had checked with alsamixer, but it is not much of help, im getting sound both out of laptop and in headphones
[14:24] <jamesanslow> When I have bind enabled on my server and I try to ssh into it using its hostname my password gets rejected.  If I uninstall bind and try I get in fine. If I ssh in locally using the hostname it's fine. Any ideas?
[14:24] <azm> hi, is there graphical utility to manage fstab please ?
[14:25] <E3D3_1> poppler: But those 2 pages are okay. I think that indead the help from terminal is most usefull.. The tldp looks big but its easy to read all. Didn't help me but maybe there is not so much to say about LVM. I will just try to play with it (after I removed my Normal hd/OS). Thanks
[14:25] <yeats> debaimbo: clearly these are the errors causing the problem...  before you keep going, have you backed up your important files from your computer (both Ubuntu & Windows - remember you said you're dual booting)?
[14:26] <poppler> E3D3_1: sure, lvm is easy for basic funcionality. The only things which come more difficult are probably mirorring and striping, but I'm not sure you need them
[14:26] <poppler> by guys
[14:26] <poppler> bye*
[14:26] <E3D3_1> Good luck all & bye
[14:26] <debaimbo> yeats , no I still havent backed up, but to do it I think I will have to mount the damaged partition again
[14:26] <poppler> thanks for your help
[14:28] <hypnin> Skummel: I've searched around and didn't find really where to ask. I'm interested in contributing to Ubuntu as part of a graduation thesis. I'm interested specifically in Security (Networking and OS internals too). All I need practically is someone from Ubuntu/Canonical who would be a supervisor, help define the roadmap/objectives and answer any queries about work done from school if needed
[14:28] <debaimbo> yeats , so should I close that terminal window? it`s still running
[14:28] <yeats> debaimbo: no - I wouldn't interrupt it
[14:28] <voita> Someone who knows how to boot a netbook from usb? Bios does not find the USB and I do not have access to grub on computer. Please!
[14:28] <debaimbo> yeats, ok
[14:29] <aguitel> voita, try plopmanager
[14:29] <yeats> debaimbo: sounds like a filesystem-level problem and not a hardware issue (so far)
[14:29] <voita> thnx I will try
[14:30] <Skummel> hypnin problem is that this is a community driven irc channel. you might try to contact canonical http://www.canonical.com/about-canonical/contact
[14:30] <aguitel> voita, http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html
[14:30] <debaimbo> yeats: I am glad of it, it`s still running
[14:32] <kalimann> soreau, i am making changes to the alsa-base.conf file right now, how do i save the changes while working in terminal?
[14:33] <Skummel> kalimann in nano?
[14:33] <kalimann> skummel, yes
[14:34] <Skummel> kalimann ctrl + O if I remember correctly
[14:34] <yeats> debaimbo: great - hopefully this will just clear up the problem
[14:34] <kalimann> skummel, how do i know its saved? it doesnt say anything
[14:35] <E3D3_1> How do I close Banshee, Ctrl-W only hide the window ?
[14:36] <Skummel> kalimann: it should prompt for a filename.
[14:37] <bastidrazor> E3D3_1: alt-F4
[14:38] <aubreyja> Hi - I'm wondering if there is a public api or webservice for remote queries to packages.ubuntu.com
[14:38] <froq> anyone know how to fix the whole dropbox problem in 11.04 and no icon in the top left?
[14:38] <Skummel> kalimann: it's ctrl + o(I wrote it in uppercase, if you thought it was 0, it was an 'o')
[14:39] <E3D3_1> bastidrazor: Now its window is gone so Alt-F4 is not that practical, but thanks
[14:39] <Skummel> E3D3_1 you can allways just kill it using the terminal
[14:40] <Dexter77> I need help please. all permissions denied? root can't even look at his own home folder? numerous other problems accompany this observation
[14:40] <Dexter77> Cannnot update ICEauthority file
[14:40] <E3D3_1> Skummel: I'm using the alternate Ubuntu version but think about using the terminal for everything, its a buggie mess here.
[14:40] <Dexter77> cannnot use terminal
[14:41] <Ramseize> hello everyone, is there a good way to limit bind9 memory, im running a small vps with 192 memory. and this eats a lot, is there a way to limit it, or you have a good alernative for bind9?
[14:41] <Dexter77> ".bashrc permission denied
[14:41] <kalimann> okay, now i got some changes saved in the .conf file, but it still wont work
[14:42] <E3D3_1> Skummel: Even Alt-F4 don't work :-(
[14:42] <bastidrazor> E3D3_1: that would 'close' it. what action were you looking for?
[14:42] <samy3> hello
[14:42] <E3D3_1> bastidrazor: Closing/Terminating/Killing/etc
[14:43] <bastidrazor> E3D3_1: alt-f4 does that.
[14:44] <debaimbo> yeats: `Pass 2: Checking directory structure
[14:44] <debaimbo> Entry 'acpi_available' in /sbin (1507329) has deleted/unused inode 1507442.  Clear<y>?`
[14:45] <kalimann> isn't there please something you can do? is there some specific information i can give you about my computer that will maybe uncover something?
[14:45] <E3D3_1> bastidrazor: Now banshee don't start from the volume control on the desktop-toolbar anymore. Started it with the terminal & could only stop it by killing the terminal
[14:47] <yeats> debaimbo: 'y' or 'yes'
[14:49] <smatail> Hi All . Apologies for the lack of control characters in the text attached http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/676597/plain/ . Does anyone have any ideas of things that I can try to make my ubuntu boot up without a CD in the drive?
[14:49] <jpmh> I have s text printer connected to /dev/usb/lp0 - I can send text files to it and they print, I tried to set it up with SYSTEM/ADMIN/PRINTERS - all seems ok - it accepts jobs, queues them, etc, but they never move out of tge queue to the printer , what am I missing here?
[14:49] <E3D3_1> Sorry people but the alternate Ubuntu is great for installing LVM but beside that its not my type. Can I change it easily to another Ubuntu version than this 11 ?
[14:49] <jrib> E3D3_1: what do you want exactly?
[14:50] <debaimbo> yeats: ok, it`s done
[14:51] <yeats> debaimbo: great - try rebooting into ubuntu
[14:51] <E3D3_1> jrib: Im used to a Gnome desktop, beside feeling/lookiing silly is it very buggie & unpractical for me. I mostly work with Emacs & Conkeror web-browser.
[14:51] <jrib> !classic | E3D3_1
[14:51] <debaimbo> yeats: ok, but before let me tell you you were really helpful
[14:52] <debaimbo> yeats: if it doesnt work, i will be here in ten minutes
[14:53] <E3D3_1> jrib: No, is it that easy, so this is unity !. I got it confused with Unite. Al those names, Thank you very much.
[14:55] <E3D3_1> Bad thing about Ubuntu is that I hardly learn al that computer-blahblah. I just work & still enjoy gaining productivity instead of becoming a master-programmer that hopes one day the pc will obey. Thanks all Ubuntu-folks for changing my life positivily (more than 10 years ago).
[14:55] <mrdeb> ok e3, good luck
[14:58] <smatail> Hi, can anyone suggest where I can post a newbie question?
[14:58] <mrdeb> go ahead
[14:58] <smatail> ANy ideas on the following problem http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/676606/plain/
[15:04] <debaimbo> yeats: bad news, it seemed to boot but it stopped, saying "failed to spawn ureadahead main process: unable to execute: no such file or directory"
[15:04] <SpiderFred> hi is it possible to connect to my computer without public ip via ssh thru another ssh server me > server > my computer without public ip
[15:05] <mgj> SpiderFred, sure? ssh to the server, and then ssh to your computer?
[15:06] <mgj> assuming that the server has a public IP, and your computer is on the same network as the server
[15:06] <SpiderFred> mgj, oh I wasnt clear enough I cant ssh into my computer I can only ssh from my computer to server is it possible to make it listen there on something like that
[15:06] <eraggo> How i can use 2 displays? them are connected to dirrerent video cards (one to integrated and 1 to the pci-e card)
[15:07] <SIFTU> SpiderFred: you mean reverse ssh?
[15:08] <SpiderFred> SIFTU, I guess I want my computer to listen on that server
[15:08] <SIFTU> SpiderFred: yep, thats reverse ssh
[15:09] <SIFTU> SpiderFred: I use it all the time.. lots or tutorials on it.. the key is the ssh -R switch on and to set the gatwayport=yes on the server
[15:11] <SpiderFred> SIFTU, yeah I see a lot of it now on google I just didnt know what I should look for, thx
[15:11] <MrCollins> I have a toshiba laptop, Vista installed, trying to install Ubuntu 11.04 from a burned dvd iso, 500GB disk, when I get to the partition resizing section it seems to hang forever... I selected the install beside Vista option in installation, I am currently in 'live' mode on the same box.... How can I resize the partition(s) NTFS and ext4 for Ubuntu installation...
[15:12] <Baraman> Hi every one. Im new here and i'm trying to install ubuntu on my machine and i get this error message when booting from cd: (initramfs= Can nnot mount
[15:12] <Baraman> 7dev
[15:12] <mgj> SIFTU, wow is that really possible? Computer | *internet/firewall that blocks all, except outgoing* | Server . You then ssh to the server, and then you are able to ssh back to 'Computer' ?
[15:12] <MrCollins> I have run chkdsk /f option in winblowz and just finished a defrag....
[15:13] <Baraman> do i have any hope?
[15:13] <SIFTU> mgj: yes
[15:13] <mgj> sick
[15:13] <Skummel> MrCollins: resizing a partition takes forever, I did it last night. Took me 6 hours. Remember to backup your files before starting tho.
[15:13] <Phylock> MrCollins - i had the same problem once, fixed it by doing the resize from windows before i installed ubuntu.
[15:14] <JlaoShi> my friend just got a thinkpad e125.  a lot of hardware is not detected by ubuntu
[15:14] <JlaoShi> is this normal?
[15:14] <Grey_Loki> Baraman: in situations like that, in the past i've found that checking the CD for defects before trying to boot from it can be quite useful.
[15:14] <Baraman> ok, thanks a lot, may be my image had something wrong
[15:14] <MrCollins> Skummel, Phylock: ok Will do. I let the resize run over night. Is there some feature of NTFS version that Vista uses that causes the Ubuntu partition program to hang?
[15:15] <JlaoShi> the screen resolution is incorrect (1024x768)
[15:15] <SIFTU> SpiderFred: this is what my script looks like http://dl.dropbox.com/u/906920/screenshots/screenshot-20110828081429.jpeg
[15:15] <Baraman> i'll download a new one. Thanks Grey_loki!
[15:15] <Skummel> MrCollins normally it checks for filesystem errors before and after, thats what takes time.
[15:15] <SIFTU> oops sorry,. was meant to be a PM
[15:16] <JlaoShi> the synaptics pad fails some test, so ubuntu treats it as a mouse (no multi-touch or edge scrolling)
[15:16] <MrCollins> Skummel, ok thanks for your input as well Phylock
[15:16] <SpiderFred> SIFTU, wow looks great
[15:16] <roman3> hi
[15:16] <JlaoShi> and the video hardware acceleration does not seem to be working at all
[15:16] <kurisu> hi guys, I'm trying to do a fresh install of 11.04 on one of my laptops... after I login on the initial boot the desktop doesn't load... It juust cycles between the desktyop image ang the login dialog, I've looked on google but cannot seem to find much. Has anyone come across this issue before?
[15:16] <WindowsMojave> Anyone here looking for free web hosting?
[15:17] <MrCollins> so at this point I will reboot this machine, try the Vista partition resizer, make room for ext4
[15:17] <mgj> WindowsMojave, FREE STUFF! GIMME GIMME
[15:17] <EgyParadox> !irc
[15:17] <roman3> hey
[15:18] <WindowsMojave> mgj http://hostingpad.tk
[15:18] <WindowsMojave> I run a free web hosting service :)
[15:18] <EgyParadox> !guidelines
[15:18] <MrCollins> WindowsMojave where is your domain parked
[15:18] <WindowsMojave> Does it matter? :P
[15:18] <roman3> http://worldwidewebteam.no-ip.org
[15:18] <MrCollins> I wouldnt have asked if it didnt... ;)
[15:19] <WindowsMojave> Our server is in the FDCServer Datacenter in Chicago, IL
[15:19] <EgyParadox> !ops
[15:20] <JoeGazz84> EgyParadox: Do you need something?
[15:20] <mgj> WindowsMojave, im having trouble finding much information on the link you gave. What technologies can you host? php? asp? .net? java? What about databases?
[15:20] <JoeGazz84> i'm not an op but I know the ops don't like using that trigger
[15:20] <WindowsMojave> No Java, no asp.net, Our server runs CentOS 5.6 and we have the Kloxo Control panel
[15:21] <IdleOne> WindowsMojave: Please don't advertise in here.
[15:21] <WindowsMojave> ah, sorry
[15:21] <WindowsMojave> I know the Linux community loves free stuff so I couldn't resist xD
[15:22] <kurisu> is a 1.5ghz centrino w/ 512mb good enough for 11.04
[15:22] <WindowsMojave> If you want more info, Just PM mer
[15:22] <poison_> please guide me in installing firefox aurora....i have downloaded firefox-8.0a2.en-US.linux-i686 (1).tar.bz2 file ....please suggest me the next step
[15:22] <thauriswulfa> kurisu: maybe, but only for doing basic stuff
[15:22] <kurisu> it says it is in the wiki but not having much luck on mine
[15:22] <thauriswulfa> kurisu:add another 512 mb
[15:23] <kurisu> basics all I need for now
[15:23] <MrCollins> better yet max out that ram
[15:23] <kurisu> but I cant even get to tyhe desktop
[15:23] <thauriswulfa> kurisu: why not use lighter one like xubuntu,elementary
[15:24] <kurisu> I thought I'd just  to do a fresh install of 11.04 on one of my laptops... after I login on the initial boot the desktop doesn't load... It juust cycles between the desktyop image ang the login dialog, I've looked on google but cannot seem to find much
[15:24] <TJSmith> kurisu: memory is bare minimum - suggest more. cpu speed is fine, but centrino is old, and typically laptop based - you may have some issues with the other hardware in the system.
[15:24] <anaithnid> I am having a problem with JACK on my iMac. Sound works fine without it, but any audio program using jack has odd output issues. Any help here or is there another channel for help with JACK?
[15:25] <kurisu> I will upgrade ram, when I find where I put it, but not sure about this desktop issue
[15:25] <thauriswulfa> kurisu: what kind of desktop issue?
[15:25]  * [0xDEAD] is back (gone 14:15:34)
[15:26] <kurisu> it just doesn't load properly... fresh install, after initial login it just cycles between the desktop image and the login dialog
[15:26] <thauriswulfa> kurisu:it shall work after ram upgrade
[15:27] <smatail> I can't get ubuntu to start automaticallt without either the install disk or GRUB 1.98
[15:27] <kurisu> oh right
[15:27] <kurisu> I'll try to find my stockpile
[15:27]  * kurisu Wishes he didn't hoard so much crap
[15:29] <oCean> [0xDEAD]: please disable your away/back announcement
[15:29] <thauriswulfa> smatail: re-install grub
[15:33] <anaithnid> I am having trouble with bad output from JACK on my iMac using Ubuntu 11.04. Ardour is scratchy and zynaddsubfx outputs a constant horrible buzzing
[15:33] <LABcrab> Hello everyone!  What is better: to have a dedicated Blu-Ray player, or to install a Blu-Ray player in a computer?  Would it work with Ubuntu or XP?
[15:34] <EgyParadox> !offtopic | LABcrab
[15:35] <mjr4189> sup everyone, trying to reinstall grub, how can i go about doing so with the 11.04 live CD?
[15:35] <LABcrab> !bluray EgyParadox: What about Blu-ray support for Ubuntu?
[15:35] <LABcrab> !bluray
[15:35] <EgyParadox> I dont know
[15:37] <EgyParadox> LABcrab: you are asking about a blueray device?
[15:38] <EgyParadox> dedicated device*
[15:41] <imaginois> Is there anyone who uses netbeans?
[15:41] <anaithnid> I am having trouble with bad output from JACK on my iMac using Ubuntu 11.04. Ardour is scratchy and zynaddsubfx outputs a constant horrible buzzing
[15:42] <mjr4189> anyone know how i can install grub from the 11.04 live cd
[15:42] <Guest88621> What is netbeans?
[15:42] <imaginois> its IDE
[15:42] <bullgard6> What timer program can you recomend? It should be graphical but no applet.
[15:43] <arkani> I used netbeans. not much
[15:43] <Guest88621> Some know something about the prey project?
[15:43] <bullgard6> mjr4189: The 11.04 live cd will install Grub automatically.
[15:43] <mjr4189> bullgard6: i have 11.04 and windows 7 on my HDD already
[15:43] <daavis> hey! reason like program for linux ubuntu. any suggestions?
[15:44] <Guest88621> Some know something about the prey project?
[15:44] <oCean> Guest88621: that has nothing to do with ubuntu.
[15:44] <mjr4189> bullgard6: i just need grub back on the HDD so i can actually get into my 11.04 partitionm windows is being mean
[15:44] <bullgard6> mjr4189: If you installed 11.04 properly, you will have Grub on your machine too.
[15:45] <Guest88621> Yes! I want to know if some install the prey project in Ubuntu 11.04?
[15:45] <EgyParadox> mrjr4189: sudo grub-install <device>
[15:45] <mjr4189> bullgard6: i was reformatting my machine and copied the ubuntu partition so i wouldnt have to reinstall it
[15:45] <mjr4189> no the partition is back in place i just need to manually put grub
[15:47] <bullgard6> mjr4189: I do not understand what you have done with your computer. Please use more precise Englisch wording. Have you got a running Ubuntu 11.04 on your computer, or not?
[15:48] <mjr4189> I copied my ubuntu partition with easeus partition manager. Then wiped the HDD and installed 7. Then i put the ubuntu partition back on the drive, and now i need grub.
[15:49] <mjr4189> i didnt reinstall ubuntu from the disk because i liked my configuration and all the programs i had already
[15:49] <arussel> is there a way to find automatically (maybe from a DB somewhere), the title of songs of a CD I just ripped ?
[15:49] <theadmin> mjr4189: Boot a LiveCD, and run: sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[15:50] <theadmin> mjr4189: Or something similar.
[15:50] <glebihan> mjr4189, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[15:50] <theadmin> mjr4189: Make sure the partition that contains your /boot is mounted
[15:51] <accel> is there something like vmware fusion that works with ubuntu rather than indows?
[15:51] <accel> is there something like vmware fusion that works with ubuntu rather than indows? [hsot is osx]
[15:51] <theadmin> accel: Virtualbox
[15:52] <TheEvilPhoenix> !repeat | accel:  FYI:
[15:52] <sabrion> Two problems: Problem A) Mouse is acting strange when click, drag drop doesn't hold all the time, single clicks become multiple and sometimes don't click at all. Settings have not fixed a thing.
[15:52] <accel> !chill
[15:52] <TheEvilPhoenix> sabrion:  hardware issue?
[15:52] <sabrion> Problem B) Cannot find a way to edit grub to choose windows as default.
[15:52] <theadmin> sabrion: Sounds like a hardware problem
[15:53] <TheEvilPhoenix> s/issue?/issue, perhaps./
[15:53] <mjr4189> cannot stat aufs?
[15:53] <sabrion> Well the mouse functions fine otherwise (in windows and such)
[15:53] <theadmin> sabrion: See /etc/default/grub
[15:53] <mjr4189> should i just give up and reinstall, i feel like grub sucks when you dont want it and sucks more when you do.....
[15:53] <sacarlson> sabrion: sounds like hardware to me,  get another or at least try another 200 baht mouse
[15:54] <theadmin> mjr4189: You've been given instructions by two people now, dude
[15:54] <mjr4189> i know, and im trying, not my fault im not as experienced
[15:54] <mjr4189> i wont use the support irc anymore either then, lol
[15:54] <graingert> where is the ubuntu+1 channel
[15:54] <theadmin> mjr4189: Ah, well, you should follow the link... it'll probably have detailed instructions
[15:55] <theadmin> graingert: You'd be surprised. It's #ubuntu+1 :P
[15:55] <graingert> I forgot the name and empathy is a sucky irc client
[15:55] <graingert> neat
[15:55] <graingert> that makes sense
[15:56] <kaushal> Hi
[15:56] <kaushal> How do i calculate disk usage of hidden files ?
[15:57] <sabrion> Okay, grub will have to be tested past this point. However, the mouse itself works fantastic on *everything* else I've ever tried. Would it still be hardware if this only happens in ubuntu?
[15:57] <theadmin> kaushal: Hidden files mostly reside in your home folder, so just check those :D
[15:57] <theadmin> sabrion: No, not at all
[15:57] <kaushal> theadmin: i know it
[15:58] <theadmin> kaushal: Well, uh, what's the problem then? du -h ~/.*
[15:59] <sabrion> I've had this problem (or at least a similar one) before on another laptop with a different version of ubuntu and a different mouse... It has seemingly plagued me for a while.
[15:59] <user> will ubuntu install on Atom
[15:59] <antivirtel> I'm migrating from SVN to Bazaar; I want to delete all ".svn" dirs recursively. if I use `rm -r SVNDIR/*/.svn` it removes only from the 1st subdir. I want to delete all .svn from all subdirs. Is there a command?
[16:00] <sabrion> Currently I'm running ubuntu 11.04 on an acer aspire 7741-4643, dual booting with windows 7 ult. The mouse is a usb logitech generic 2 button with scroll wheel optical.
[16:00] <kurisu> hmmm, upgraded the ram to 1gb... but the desktop still doesn't load!
[16:00] <yakster> anyone here know hoe to setup an external laptop monitor as default with nvidia, on a laptop?
[16:00] <huh> d
[16:00] <glebihan> antivirtel, find .svn -delete
[16:01] <sacarlson> sabrion: that is a surprise to me, so maybe those mouse I gave up on are still good.  if they write good debounce software for a bad click botton I guess that would put more life into a mouse
[16:01] <user> will ubuntu install on Atom processor laptop ??
[16:01] <tomodachi> user: yes
[16:02] <antivirtel> oh yeah glebihan, but recursively?
[16:02] <user> tomodachi: how sure
[16:02] <yakster> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/ubuntu-linux-remix.html
[16:02] <EgyParadox> user:Yes
[16:02] <tomodachi> user: 100%
[16:02] <yakster> atom link
[16:02] <sabrion> sacarlson: makes me wonder if I wired in some sort of inductor coil would it debounce it enough to work?
[16:02] <user> version 10.10
[16:02] <tomodachi> user: intel atom is x86, ubuntu supports x86
[16:02] <glebihan> antivirtel, find works recursively
[16:02] <user> tomodachi: OK thanks
[16:02] <fr0sted> i cant get ubuntu to install the drivers for my wifi adaptor, it simply doesnt see it, any help ?
[16:02] <sacarlson> sabrion: if you want to try hardware try replace or swap the left and right switch
[16:02] <sshtrk> hi guys. anyone know unity 2d irc chanel?
[16:03] <fr0sted> its a seimens gigaset 54 adapter
[16:03] <raffaele> ciao a tutti
[16:03] <yakster> frosted: can u see it in lspci?
[16:03] <theadmin> sshtrk: None really, you should ask here
[16:03] <theadmin> sshtrk: Unity is a Ubuntu-specific project
[16:03] <raffaele> !list
[16:03] <fr0sted> yakster erm im not sure ?
[16:03] <yakster> k
[16:03] <sabrion> sacarlson: wouldn't really help if I swapped 'em... Both buttons do it.
[16:03] <antivirtel> glebihan here not: find: "./.svn" cannot delete: The dir is not empty
[16:03] <yakster> go to terminal
[16:03] <theadmin> raffaele: You want /list
[16:03] <yakster> and type in lspci
[16:03] <sshtrk> can I use qr raster in unity 2d?
[16:03] <sshtrk> qt*
[16:04] <yakster> you shold see it there
[16:04] <theadmin> antivirtel: find yourfolder -exec rm -rf '{}' \;
[16:04] <sacarlson> sabrion: oh then it's not in the hardware switch part that normaly fail for me then
[16:04] <sabrion> sacarlson, single/double click/drag drop... Actually, now that you mention it, it does sound like switch bouncing...
[16:04] <fr0sted> yakster oh thanks very much, ill get right on with it ~:)
[16:04] <poison> i have downloaded "firefox-8.0a2.en-US.linux-i686 (1).tar.bz2" file....please tell me the further steps to install firefox 7
[16:04] <antivirtel> ok, I try theadmin
[16:04] <poison> firefox-8.0a2.en-US.linux-i686 .tar.bz2------>downloaded
[16:04] <poison> next steps plz
[16:05] <poison> i want to install firefox 7
[16:05] <sacarlson> sabrion: my mouse normaly only last about 6 months to 1 year with heavy usage.  to I just get a new one about that time interval
[16:05] <glebihan> poison, then why did you download firefox 8 ?
[16:05] <Yakooza> Hello, I installed 11.04 with a USB, but its still booting in my windows partition. how can I change that?
[16:06] <yeats> !firefox | poison
[16:06] <poison> is that 8?
[16:06] <glebihan> poison, to install firefox 7, you should use the firefox-next ppa
[16:06] <sacarlson> sabrion: maybe if I got the 400 baht one it would last 2 years?
[16:06] <theadmin> Firefox 8?... Wow, Mozilla sure is moving *too* fast
[16:06] <glebihan> poison, well that's the version number that appears in the filename...
[16:06] <poison> actually firefox is not working on my system
[16:06] <yakster> can anyone here leo me setup Xorg so that the laptop external display is default?
[16:06] <poison> i had upgraded my 5 to 6 and it stopped working
[16:06] <poison> so i deleted it
[16:06] <silverarrow> anything up with freenode or xchat lately?
[16:06] <Yakooza> How can I change the default bootable partition on a livecd?
[16:07] <poison> when ever i open firefox the whole system is freezing
[16:07] <sabrion> sacarlson: my mice will work for a long time for me. I just keep getting the feeling that his problem is something software with ubuntu.... because the mouse still works perfect in win7.
[16:07] <poison> thts the reason i have downloaded a new version
[16:07] <sabrion> *this problem.
[16:07] <poison> no issues
[16:07] <poison> pls guide me throgh the process to install 8
[16:07] <poison> i desperately need firefox
[16:08] <silverarrow> poison, should be no problem?
[16:08] <luigi> poison: sudo apt-get purge firefox && sudo apt-get install firefox
[16:08] <glebihan> poison, if you want a working firefox I would definitely not recommend version 8 (it's in alpha stage, very unstable)
[16:08] <o0splitpaw0o> poison,  sudo apt-get install firefox or applications >ubuntu software center > firefox
[16:08] <yeats> Yakooza: this may help - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[16:08] <poison> silverarrow,  i didnt get you
[16:09] <luigi> poison: The "purge" step should get rid of any configs that are causing crashes.
[16:09] <silverarrow> poison, I mean, firefox should come easily
[16:09] <luigi> Does anyone know what shadowing/hashing mechanism for PAM ubuntu uses?
[16:09] <poison> o0splitpaw0o, i have installed using above process...after installing the firefox if i open it the system is freezing
[16:09] <luigi> poison: Did you run the purge step?
[16:10] <attj> hi, I cannot scrol web pages by pressing mouse 3 and moving up and down. I'm using google chromiun.
[16:10] <sacarlson> poison: I've compiled custom firefox to use with firewatir but normaly the ubuntu build is fine
[16:10] <poison> yes im running it now
[16:10] <poison> its on the way
[16:10] <Phylock> poison - if the "purge" doesn't work, try run a clean profile?
[16:10] <luigi> attj: That's a standard issue in X.
[16:10] <attj> in X?
[16:10] <poison> its going on
[16:10] <poison> 15 minutes remaining
[16:10] <yeats> poison: I had the same problem this morning, btw - system freezes caused by Firefox (with Adobe Flash installed) - installing the Flashblock extension seems to have helped (so far)
[16:10] <luigi> attj: X is the window system behind almost all linux systems.
[16:10] <sabrion> I
[16:11] <imaginois> attj check your compiz settings, maybe there is already assigned something else to button 3
[16:11] <sabrion> I'm going to attempt disabling the track pad on the laptop, see if that doesn't clear up anything.
[16:11] <luigi> attj: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/occjjkgifpmdgodlplnacmkejpdionan
[16:11] <poison> yeats, can you please tell me the exact file name of the extension?
[16:11] <yeats> poison: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flashblock/
[16:12] <poison> what if i want to watch a youtube video?
[16:12] <yeats> poison: in my case, the plugin-container process was the culprit - I'm still not convinced it's fixed - monitoring closely
[16:13] <yeats> poison: it will show you that there is flash content, but won't automatically load it - if you click, you can view
[16:13] <sabrion> Okay, how does one disable a device?
[16:13] <poison> how do i get my unity feature back?
[16:13] <poison> then, its fine
[16:14] <dandaman> hey, i'm on 11.04 and for some reason, after a while my wireless connection disconnects and the icon for networking from my top bar goes missing. It doesnt reconnect to the wireless network, but I can plug in my phone and tether or use ethernet and the internet works
[16:14] <dandaman> how can i get the icon back without having to restart every time?
[16:15] <Yakooza> What is this "Error loading operating system"? bad install or?
[16:15] <theadmin> dandaman: Seems like a networkmanager crash, can you connect with the terminal?
[16:15] <phillyj> can someone tell me if i can make my terminal transparent such that i can see any window that is behind it?
[16:15] <dandaman> theadmin: do you know the command offhand?
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> phillyj: which terminal?
[16:16] <theadmin> dandaman: It depends on your network encryption type
[16:16] <dandaman> wpa
[16:16] <phillyj> ActionParsnip: the command terminal
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> phillyj: gnome-terminal? konsole? xterm?
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> phillyj: lxterm?
[16:17] <poison> yeats, i have downloaded flahblock
[16:17] <asher^> hi, anyone know where mysql_config is usually located on ubuntu?
[16:17] <poison> now what should i do
[16:17] <glebihan> phillyj, if it's the default gnome terminal, you can change this by right-clicking the terminal, and profile->profile preferences
[16:17] <luigi> Yakooza: Sounds like an install error with the bootloader.
[16:17] <poison> yeats: i have downloaded the flashblock
[16:17] <poison> yeats: next step please
[16:17] <decio> hay, I have ubuntu 11.04 but, I would like to test OpenSuse but, does it come with the Wi-Fi servers by default? Because another distros like debian and fedora don't come with it....
[16:18] <phillyj> ActionParsnip: gnome terminal
[16:18] <o0splitpaw0o> poison,  then try this. Remove it, then follow directions here: http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-firefox-4.0-deb-package-on-ubuntu-10.10
[16:18] <yeats> poison: I don't really have a next step...
[16:18] <theadmin> dandaman: Oookay... First do "sudo -i", and then: ifconfig wlan0 up ; wpa_passphrase your_essid "your_passphrase" >> /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf ; echo "ctrl_interface=DIR=/var/run/wpa_supplicant GROUP=admin" ; wpa_supplicant -B -Dwext -i wlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> decio: ask in the suse channel
[16:18] <dandaman> thank you kind sir
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> decio: I think you mean drivers, not server
[16:18] <phillyj> glebihan: i tried but it only shows my background
[16:18] <decio> It isn't up, I can't connect to rthe server...
[16:18] <poison> Thank you
[16:18] <poison> anyone having any idea, how to get my unity back
[16:18] <o0splitpaw0o> poison,  welcome.
[16:19] <phillyj> glebihan: its not a true transparency
[16:19] <linxeh> is there a good CLI tool for ripping DVDs to isos? (I want to get my library of dvds onto my NAS so I can put the DVDs in the loft)
[16:19] <glebihan> phillyj, are you using compiz or metacity ?
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> decio: /join #suse
[16:19] <phillyj> glebihan: i dont think so. what are those?
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> linxeh: dd possibly
[16:20] <theadmin> dandaman: No problem. And yes, I know this is complicated as heck :D
[16:20] <dandaman> haha yeah im a little confused on the command already
[16:20] <theadmin> dandaman: There are tools which make configuring network via CLI easier, such as wicd-cli and netcfg
[16:20] <glebihan> phillyj, you're probably using one of those (my question was which one), they are window managers
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> dandaman: copy the command and paste it where you just typed
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> dandaman: its as simple as that, try not to overthink it
[16:21] <dandaman> uhh i'm pretty sure i need to change your_essid and your_passphrase....
[16:21] <poison> how do i get rid of the following error
[16:21] <theadmin> dandaman: That's true :)
[16:21] <poison> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5A9BF3BB4E5E17B5
[16:21] <poison> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5A9BF3BB4E5E17B5
[16:21] <FloodBot1> poison: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> dandaman: sorry mixed wired in my brain
[16:22] <linxeh> ActionParsnip: what about something that can decss them? or is that not something to ask in here ?
[16:22] <glebihan> poison, sudo gpg --kerserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 5A9BF3BB4E5E17B5
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> poison: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 5A9BF3BB4E5E17B5
[16:22] <dandaman> hmmm, i'm not quite sure how to find out my network's essid
[16:22] <decio> ActionParship, anybody at #suse
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> poison: if you add the ppa with commad line, rather than adding to sources.list it will add the key for you
[16:22] <theadmin> dandaman: Try "iwlist wlan0 scan"
[16:23] <volga629>  nvidia driver can't install on dell e6400 NVIDIA-Linux-x86-177.80-pkg1.run
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> decio: 200 users-ish
[16:23] <dandaman> oh essid is just the name
[16:23] <dandaman> doh
[16:23] <volga629> any help welcome and thank you
[16:23] <volga629> I was googling for solution for last few days non of solutions didn't work :-(
[16:23] <volga629> 2.6.35-30-generic-pae
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> !info nvidia-173 | volga629
[16:23] <theadmin> dandaman: lol
[16:23] <theadmin> !who | dandaman
[16:24] <volga629> this error http://pastebin.com/THFKzNGt
[16:24] <sabrion> Okay, thanks for the help guys. I found a few utilities that might help with the mouse problem. Good luck!
[16:25] <volga629> that what I have installed http://pastebin.com/RY7JJPJP
[16:25] <theadmin> dandaman: If the CLI works out, you probably should consider getting rid of NetworkManager and using Wicd (the graphical version) instead
[16:26] <dandaman> theadmin: well all the commands ran without a hitch, should i try removing my tethered phone to see if the connection works?
[16:26] <volga629> E: Unable to locate package nvidia-graphics-drivers-173
[16:26] <glebihan> volga629, it's "nvidia-173"
[16:26] <automata> I have installed ubuntu 10.04 to an SSD (Solid state disk).  I am trying to figure out how to make the system immune to problems relating to removing the power plug when the system is ON
[16:27] <o0splitpaw0o> volga629, looks like was attempting to install a new kernel
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> volga629: try the driver installer application
[16:27] <theadmin> dandaman: ...You should've done that first off :D
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> automata: get a UPS
[16:27] <phillyj> is there a terminal that is easy to get true transparency? I just realized there was more than one terminal
[16:27] <dandaman> woops
[16:28] <theadmin> dandaman: It's not a problem. Linux can hold multiple connections up
[16:28] <theadmin> dandaman: But it's just better for the sake of sanity...
[16:28] <theadmin> dandaman: Oh btw
[16:28] <glebihan> phillyj, gnome-terminal can do that if you run compiz, that's why I asked earlier
[16:28] <theadmin> dandaman: If you're using DHCP, you *might* also want to run "dhcpcd wlan0" after you're done with all that
[16:28] <volga629> I tried install from repository didn't work nad right now I downloaded this NVIDIA-Linux-x86-177.80-pkg1.run
[16:28] <theadmin> dandaman: Otherwise you're not getting any IP :D
[16:28] <automata> This is a headless machine controller and will be subject to random power cycling..
[16:28] <volga629> and
[16:28] <dandaman> kk
[16:29] <phillyj> glebihan: i don't know anything abt compiz
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> automata: a UPS will give battery backup when the power dies, keeping the system up
[16:29] <phillyj> i typed it in the terminal and my desktop froze, oops
[16:29] <ThomasB2k> When I restart X in tty1 (Ctrl Alt F1), should I do sudo restart gdm or just restart gdm?
[16:30] <volga629> Trying to run installation, but complain about determine version source
[16:30] <glebihan> phillyj, in terminal type "ps -ef | grep compiz" and use pastebin to show me the output
[16:31] <dandaman> no luck wit hthe dhcp
[16:31] <volga629> o0splitpaw0o: that was a mistake install new kernel :-(
[16:31] <dandaman> theadmin: how can i just restart the network manager?
[16:31] <theadmin> dandaman: Well, meh then... That's the most I could do... To restart the network manager you want something like "sudo service networkmanager restart"
[16:31] <theadmin> dandaman: Also, I really, *really* suggest wicd
[16:31] <theadmin> dandaman: NetworkManager is *weird*
 : I understand that a ups will be helpful. But this machine does not have an interface with monitor and keyboard and the only way to turn it off is power cycling
[16:32] <dandaman> theadmin: will i be able to have a system icon for wicd? i like that convenience
[16:32] <volga629> glebihan: driver nvidida 173 not working with dell e6400 that nvidia card quatro m160
[16:32] <automata> I have even configured the BIOS to power up on application of power and not to wait for the power button to be pressed
[16:32] <theadmin> dandaman: Yes, wicd has that
[16:32] <MrPhi> Hi, I am back. :x
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> automata: then install openssh-server
[16:33] <theadmin> dandaman: I can get a screenshot of how it all looks if you'd like
[16:33] <phillyj> glebihan: http://pastebin.com/DSDXktcB
[16:33] <dandaman> theadmin: interesting, no wireless networks found, im going to screenshot it now
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> automata: you can run:  sudo shutdown -h now     and it will turn off
[16:33] <o0splitpaw0o> volga629,  well possibly no, might of been an update that is all
[16:33] <theadmin> dandaman: In wicd?
[16:33] <jimijix> dows ubuntu recognize hfs+?
[16:33] <dandaman> theadmin: correct
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> !hfs
[16:34] <sabrion> sacarlson: BTNX will debounce.
[16:34] <theadmin> dandaman: Eeh... This happens. Open up the settings, find "wireless interface", put "wlan0" there
[16:34] <jimijix> thanks ActionParsnip
[16:34] <theadmin> dandaman: It doesn't autodetect that
[16:34] <dandaman> theadmin: it is wlan0
[16:34] <theadmin> dandaman: Oh... Interesting
[16:34] <volga629> o0splitpaw0o: yes the problem my laptop down for 2 second day and I don't see solution
[16:34] <theadmin> dandaman: Do you by chance have networkmanager *and* wicd running?
[16:34] <utkarsh_> Hello, I have installled Ubuntu 11.04 Gnome. I am trying to Setup Bluetooth. But I have been unable to. I have tried both : Service Bluetooth Restart and killall bluetoothd, bluetoothd... I tried and searched internet for other methods but have not been able to find one. Can anybody please suggest some other workaround.
[16:34] <theadmin> dandaman: That'd be a problem
[16:35] <sacarlson> sabrion: so that was a solution btnx?
[16:35] <lucidguy_> Anyone recommend a simple light weight website monitor tool?  Looking for something to simply check if a website responds, and if not shoot out an email.
[16:35] <glebihan> phillyj, ok so you're not running compiz and that's probably why you're not getting "true" transparency (I don't think it will work with any terminal app without compiz)
[16:35] <o0splitpaw0o> volga629, I'd run sudo apt-get -f install. anything damaged or misisng will be pulled, but from those massaged, accessing ca.ubuntu.com timing out  I assume a network side issue. not on your side, but to that url whereever it's trying to pull that update from
[16:35] <glebihan> phillyj, if you want to try it, run "compiz --replace"
[16:35] <theadmin> lucidguy_: Um, ping + mailx?
[16:35] <sabrion> sacarlson, Testing it now... config for mouse, but it has settings for repeat delay that the tooltip says will basically debounce mouse clicks.
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> lucidguy_: try telnetting to port 80 on the site, if it connects then it's up
[16:36] <dandaman> http://i.imgur.com/qE58A.png
[16:36] <jimijix> can i tripple boot osx, ubuntu and windows on a macbook?
[16:36] <lucidguy_> ActionParsnip: I need an automated check.
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> jimijix: yes
[16:36] <lucidguy_> theadmin: hmm, sounds like some scripting is in order.
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> lucidguy_: sure, you can cron the job to run every 10 minutes or as you need
[16:36] <dandaman> theadmin: sorry, http://i.imgur.com/qE58A.png and i dont quite know how to find out if network manager is on
[16:36] <SIFTU> lucidguy_: nagios too much?
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> lucidguy_: so yes, it will be automated
[16:36] <theadmin> dandaman: Just stop it
[16:37] <jimijix> ActionParsnip: How do i do this? bootcamp only supports windows?
[16:37] <theadmin> dandaman: sudo service networkmanager stop
[16:37] <lucidguy_> theadmin: and ping only give me the host, not if apache responds
[16:37] <dandaman> theadmin: you can check out that ps aux command, it doesnt seem to be listed there
[16:37] <theadmin> dandaman: Oh, okay
[16:37] <theadmin> lucidguy_: Oh
[16:37] <lucidguy_> SIFTU: yes nagios is overkill
[16:37] <phillyj> glebihan: is it cpu intensive to get transparent terminal?
[16:37] <sacarlson> sabrion: oh I've played with the settings in the past with some of my bad mouse bottons but with no success.  it was like a delay before the click started and later stuck
[16:37] <theadmin> lucidguy_: You should do the telnet thing then
[16:37] <dandaman> theadmin: that command just gave me a networkmanager: unrecognized service
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> lucidguy_: you can write scripts to wget the web page too, then check if it was ok
[16:37] <o0splitpaw0o> volga629, I would connect it via a network cable to the network and run that to repair it. if you have no connection, then check if network is connecting by typing in sudo ifconfig eth0
[16:37] <SIFTU> lucidguy_: well you will want to check the http response codes at least
[16:37] <theadmin> dandaman: Ah, it may also be "network-manager" or "NetworkManager", I don't quite remember how Ubuntu calls things
[16:37] <lucidguy_> ActionParsnip: I thought of wget...  havent looked into it yet.
[16:37] <sabrion> sacarlson, WORKING!
[16:38] <volga629> o0splitpaw0o: the question right now how to restore the nvidia driver
[16:38] <o0splitpaw0o> volga629, should show you an ip there.
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> lucidguy_: if the page is bad, it won't download
[16:38] <sacarlson> sabrion: cool
[16:38] <MrPhi> I try to set up a dual boot vista+kubuntu. But the ext3 drivers for windows only works with a file system with an inode size equal at 128 bytes. So I am reformating my /home (on sda6) with the right inode size (using a gparted liveCD), then I copy all home file on the new home. But Kubuntu cannot find the /home folder.
[16:38] <theadmin> lucidguy_: wget could work
[16:38] <dandaman> theadmin: correct, it was the caps
[16:38] <Jemt> Hi. I've created a .desktop to launch a shell script, which in turn starts a game. But it doesn't work. The command in Exec= works fine when executed from a terminal. I have tried Terminal=true and false, but no luck either way. Any suggestions ?
[16:38] <dandaman> wait what...no
[16:38] <sacarlson> sabrion: so that's another driver or just different settings?
[16:38] <glebihan> phillyj, not really but once you enable compiz you'll have to configure it a little bit in order to disable some plugins if you don't want it to use too much resources
[16:38] <sabrion> sacarlson, It's a config program of some sort.
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> lucidguy_: wget --timeout=0.1 --tries=1 http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/using-wget-to-test-if-a-website-is-up-676231/
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> lucidguy_: etc
[16:39] <sabrion> under synaptics as BTNX with a config program.
[16:39] <automata> I want to try to setup a read only root file system with unionfs or aufs and mount various partitions readonly
[16:39] <phillyj> glebihan: ok, i'll check it out, thx
[16:39] <glebihan> phillyj, you're welcome
[16:39] <theadmin> dancek: Oh... silly Ubuntu... caps are evil :/
[16:39] <sacarlson> sabrion: excelent before I buy a new mouse I'll give it a try
[16:39] <automata> various directories read only
[16:39] <volga629> o0splitpaw0o: is no internet connection problem I am be able go to internet, and network up and running
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> lucidguy_: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2717303/checking-wgets-return-value-if
[16:39] <lucidguy_> ActionParsnip: I think that might be the simplest solution.
[16:39] <sabrion> sacarlson: btnx and btnx-config
[16:39] <automata> this way a power cycle does not corrupt the harddisk
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> lucidguy_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1410513
[16:40] <dandaman> ok, well i stopped network manager, wicd still couldnt find anything so i plugged in my phone again to start it up again, theadmin
[16:40] <MrPhi> Does anyone have an idea about how to use my new home with Kubuntu?
[16:40] <dandaman> i just want the icon back :(
[16:40] <sabrion> sacarlson, You have to register all your buttons, but it's really easy to use. And at the very least, fixed my problem.
[16:40] <dandaman> back in 10.10 i could just remove the system icon and put it back and it would work
[16:40] <o0splitpaw0o> volga629, you can do this. reboot it. at the prompt select "ubuntu recovery mode" > Then select load default driver> This will load a basic vga driver for you. at the login prompt> select "ubuntu classic" (or it will just tell you it has to load into classic mode by default)> Then once in goto System>Administration> Additional Drivers> Select the Recommended Nvidia Driver and apply changes> Then reboot
[16:40] <dandaman> but nooooo i cant do that in 11.04 so easilyt
[16:40] <sabrion> sacarlson, I set the two main buttons for a 15 ms delay. Seems to work perfect for right now.
[16:40] <theadmin> dandaman: I think I can't help anymore then, sorry
[16:41] <MrPhi> "kstartupconfig4 does not exist or fails. The error code is 3. Check."
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> lucidguy_: then just cron the script ;)
[16:41] <utkarsh_> Hello, I have installled Ubuntu 11.04 Gnome. I am trying to Setup Bluetooth. But I have been unable to. I have tried both : Service Bluetooth Restart and killall bluetoothd, bluetoothd... I tried and searched internet for other methods but have not been able to find one. Can anybody please suggest some other workaround.
[16:41] <glebihan> dandaman, did you try relaunching "nm-applet" ? (no sure it's still this one that is used in 11.04 but might be worth the try)
[16:41] <volga629> o0splitpaw0o: that like a solution let me try thank you
[16:41] <dandaman> theadmin: do you know where i can edit the icons that show up in the top right(IE. time, sound, etc...)
[16:42] <o0splitpaw0o> volga629, Then it's just a bad repository it's trying to access right now. run sudo apt-get --autoremove and it will remove conflicting packages and get you stable
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> utkarsh_: if you run:  bluetooth-applet    is it ok?
[16:42] <theadmin> dandaman: No, sorry
[16:42] <theadmin> dandaman: It was obvious earlier, but now they messed it up
[16:43] <utkarsh_> ActionParsnip: I have tried bluetooth-applet....
[16:43] <utkarsh_> But the Bluetooth appears greyed out
[16:43] <utkarsh_> Nothing happens even with restarting the app
[16:44] <volga629> o0splitpaw0o: let me try reocevery mode
[16:44] <dandaman> anyone know if they're going to make the ui any better for 11.10?
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> utkarsh_: if you run:  dmesg | grep -i blu     does it show a bluetooth adapter being picked up?
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> dandaman: unity is default for both 3D and 2D desktop
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> dandaman: Ubuntu Classic is replaced by Unity-2D
[16:45] <utkarsh_> ActionParsnip: I have tried it once... I showed bluetooth adapter. Next time when it was not working... I did not see that...using the same command
[16:45] <volga629> o0splitpaw0o: sudo apt-get -f install nvidia-173-kernel-source  ----> this is solution
[16:46] <enav> hello people i have a 9800 gtx+ video card, i can configure certain settings with no problem using nvdivia-settings manager but for some reason when i restart the computer the option sync to blank is always disabled... i want to force Vertical sync some how
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> dandaman: there is a fork of the original style gnome reported on omgubuntu
[16:46] <volga629> and driver come up properly
[16:47] <utkarsh_> ActionParsnip: Is there a way to turn on the bluetooth directly from the BIOS. As the Bug Report page sayed that the bluetooth works out of the box if it is already on.....
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> utkarsh_: depends on the BIOS, go have a look :)
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> utkarsh_: is there a switch on the keyboard or otherwise to turn bluetooth off and on?
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> utkarsh_: if you run:   lsmod | grep btusb     do you get any output?
[16:48] <utkarsh_> ActionParsnip: Yes there is. For Wireless and Bluetooth. I have tried that as well. It does not work...
[16:49] <utkarsh_> ActionParsnip: I am currently using Windows. I use bluetooth to use internet. So I would have to bboot into ubuntu and run and see. I have not run that commmand
[16:50] <utkarsh_> ActionParsnip: So I would note downn the Commmand. I would shut down and boot into Ubuntu run and come back here and tell you the output.... Can you suggest me what to do in both the cases of failure and success?
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> utkarsh_: i suggest you use another connection to get updated, may help
[16:50] <volga629> o0splitpaw0o; thank you very much for directions and help
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> utkarsh-could also try oneiric in liveCD to test
[16:51] <utkarsh_> ActionParsnip: Ok.. So you are suggesting me to use another source for internet and come online here again...Right?
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> utkarsh_: yes an ethernet connection will probably just work, then you can get updated
[16:52] <jrib> !away > fr0sted-away
[16:53] <utkarsh_> ActionParsnip: I did update ubuntu from the Update Manager when I had the ethernet. Is there another source for Bluetooth module?
[16:54] <antonio_> ciao a tt
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> utkarsh_: its part of the kernel stuffs, you may find you just need the bluetooth module loading
[16:54] <antonio_> !list
[16:55] <laughzilla> http://wp.me/p1N6Si-cH - Microsoft vs. Open Source editorial cartoon :)
[16:55] <MrPhi> I had too reformat my sda6 (with /home) but I copyed my files with cp -R and not cp -Ra. My new home does not have any hide files and Kubuntu cannot start.
[16:55] <MrPhi> Any solution please? :x
[16:55] <glaucous> I'm trying to install packages in my home folder using dpkg, without root permissions. 'dpkg --force-all --instdir=root2 --install *.deb', however this results in 'operation requires read/write access to dpkg status area'. What are my options here? I can obviously just use --extract as well, but that'll become bothersome.
[16:56] <jrib> glaucous: why are you doing this?
[16:56] <antonio_> !list
[16:56] <theadmin> antonio_: Please stop this.
[16:56] <glebihan> glaucous, you can't install without root permissions
[16:57] <utkarsh_> ActionParsnip: Ok... I would do that... Thanks for the time you gace... Thank you..
[16:57] <glaucous> glebihan: shouldn't be a problem as long as it's just in my home folder. Just extracting the deb files works, but I'll need to keep track of them as well (when uninstalling etc)
[16:59] <glebihan> glaucous, that is precisely what dpkg tries to do when you get the error about the status area, and that's why you won't be able to "install" without root privileges
[16:59] <glebihan> glaucous, but as jrib asked, why are you trying to do this ?
[17:00] <glaucous> glebihan: Yes I do understand that, the --root options should be able to help me here, but no luck there either
[17:00] <glaucous> simple, I don't have any root permissions
[17:00] <antonio_> ciao
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> glaucous: so you aren't in the admin group?
[17:00] <glebihan> glaucous, no the --root option only allows to install in the different location than the default one, it does not change where the dpkg status files are located
[17:00] <theadmin> glaucous: Well, you can't modify the APT/DPKG databases without those
[17:01] <jrib> glaucous: simple solution is to just ask the admin to install the packages you want
[17:02] <glaucous> Thought I'd be able to have a separate DB, but I guess not
[17:03] <glaucous> ActionParsnip: No I'm not
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> glaucous: unlucky
[17:04] <glaucous> yup.. but I got some applications working by editing LD_LIBRARY_PATH at least
[17:05] <kzman> hello
[17:06] <fr0sted-away> jrib ok man sorry
[17:07] <kzman> are there any kind of template to create new users?
[17:07] <Satisfied> is there ever a circumstance in nature where a chunk of ice can sink in water?
[17:07] <theadmin> Satisfied: Totally wrong channel
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> !adduser | kzman
[17:09] <miels> I'm having trouble setting up a service - I'm following these directions here (http://howtonode.org/deploying-node-upstart-monit) but after putting an upstart conf in /etc/init I can't execute 'start service'… am I doing something wrong?
[17:10] <kzman> ActionParsnip, no, I ask for a template what I could change, and modify the default settings for new users
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> kzman: /etc/skel has the default stuffs afaik
[17:12] <dandaman> theadmin: found a solution online, running nm-applet &
[17:13] <kzman> ActionParsnip, thank you, that is the idea, but to change the default key config, what are in gconf
[17:13] <coraxx> ActionParsnip: Hi :-) its me again ... do you have a minute ?
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> kzman: hmm, not sure there maybe others can help
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> coraxx: sup?
[17:15] <coraxx> ActionParsnip: Now I'm trying to work with ... BIND9 .... that I'm trying to configure with Samba4 ... I can't seem to get BIND9 to work at all ...remote machines just reports 'server failed' when I do a manual dns-lookup ...what am I missing ?
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> coraxx: not use bind9
[17:17] <coraxx> ActionParsnip: ok ...which one should I use instead ?
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> coraxx: bind9 sounds like what you want, maybe others can help
[17:18] <coraxx> ActionParsnip: you don't know of any other Ubuntu DNS Server software ?
[17:20] <sshtrk> can qt raster work on unity 2d?
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> coraxx: dnsmasq
[17:21] <wolfric> how can i make separate workspaces per monitor?
[17:21] <themonkeymixer> damn it i cannot get xchat to connect to any other server
[17:21] <coraxx> ActionParsnip: ok..thanx :-)
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> themonkeymixer: try:  /server irc.servname.something
[17:24] <Pupeno> Is there a user friendly way to access android 3.0 (MTP) from Ubuntu? to copy files.
[17:25] <znf> Hello. I have installed a PPA that has a newer version of a package I'm interested in (deluge 1.3.3) than the repo one, but apt-get / aptitude keeps installing the distro version (1.2.2) - what can I do to force it to get the PPA version?!
[17:25] <theadmin> Pupeno: Internal storage? No real way... SD card?... Stick the SD card in the Ubuntu machine, or connect via USB.
[17:25] <glebihan> znf, did you run "sudo apt-get update" ?
[17:25] <znf> glebihan, yes, ofcourse
[17:26] <glebihan> znf, what does "apt-cache policy deluge" show ?
[17:26] <Pupeno> theadmin: intel? what are you talking about? it's an MTP device, there's no SD card.
[17:26] <theadmin> Oh...
[17:26] <znf> glebihan, candidate 1.2.2-2, doesn't show anything from the PPA
[17:27] <glebihan> znf, weird, how did you add the ppa ?
[17:27] <theadmin> Pupeno: Sorry, I don't quite comprehend those... thingies, what do you call them... Those overgrown phones
[17:27] <Pupeno> theadmin: tablets?
[17:27] <znf> glebihan, add-apt-repository ppa:gwibber-daily/ppa - it created the file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d, it updates from it, but... :-/
[17:27] <WarOp> Does anyone know how to change the Close,Maximize,Minimize buttons on the Metacity to the Right instead of Left
[17:28] <glebihan> znf, what release of ubuntu are you running ?
[17:28] <znf> glebihan, 10.04 LTS
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> glebihan: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:deluge-team/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install deluge
[17:29] <theadmin> Pupeno: Yeah, those
[17:29] <glebihan> znf, are you sure of ppa name ? if has nothing to do with deluge ?
[17:29] <derp> Yes hello.
[17:29] <znf> glebihan, oh, holy f*, you're right, I just mindlessly copied the instructions *facepalm*
[17:29] <glebihan> znf, the correct one would be the one ActionParsnip just mentioned
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> glebihan: the command I gave will give 1.3.3
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> glebihan: fyi, I don't use delue. I just websearched
[17:30] <glebihan> ActionParsnip, neither do I
[17:30] <[THC]AcidRain> how do i play encrypted dvds in ubuntu?
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> glebihan: then why ask?
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> !dvd | [THC]AcidRain
[17:31] <glebihan> ActionParsnip, I didn't ask, I was helping znf
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> glebihan: i see, i apologize :(
[17:31] <glebihan> ActionParsnip, no problem
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> :)
[17:35] <akshatha> Hi friends , i am trying to install 'zathura' pdf reader .. but its not able to install via apt-get .. i remember this working previosly .. is there anything i have to add to apt list ? any help please ...thanks
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> akshatha: why not just use evince? it's in a default install
[17:37] <akshatha> ActionParsnip, i am more familiar to zathura since it is vimlike ... so i want that ..
[17:37] <zykotick9> akshatha, what ubuntu version are you using?  according to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zathura it seems to be in maverick and natty
[17:38] <akshatha> zykotick9, i am using 10.04 .. i also did apt-get install update .. is this enough ?
[17:38] <gentoo-intel> akshatha, does it have to be cli?
[17:38] <zykotick9> akshatha, check for a PPA for 10.04 would be my recommendation.  Good luck.
[17:38] <Benkinooby> irc.quakenet.org
[17:39] <Night-hacks> im in 10.04, can i install fresh 11.04 and chroot to that ?
[17:39] <akshatha> gentoo-intel, nope .. i can try installvia synaptec also .. i ll try
[17:39] <lukinfore> Hi. Should gksudo start gui (non-root) apps fine? I mean without using sux, or xhost?
[17:40] <lukinfore> It prints no error, just silently quit
[17:40] <akshatha> zykotick9, what is PPA .. sorry i couldn't figure out ... any pointers ..?
[17:40] <StayInSkool> hey there folks
[17:40] <gentoo-intel> akshatha, maybe you typed the name wrong idk. id use evince though as its built in already. its not hard to use
[17:40] <zykotick9> !ppa | akshatha
[17:40] <StayInSkool> are there any alternative synaptics drivers out there?
[17:40] <themonkeymixer> thanks to whomever provided the info :) worked great
[17:40] <StayInSkool> this one's been driving me nuts. cursor jumping around, tapping only works when the cursor comes to a complete stop etc
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> akshatha: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pomeo/zathura ; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install zathura
[17:42] <akshatha> ActionParsnip, thanks very much dude .. it worked .. it was in ppa ..
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> akshatha: simple websearching dude
[17:42] <akshatha> ActionParsnip, sorry .. i am a newbie .. i couldn't figure out ..
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> akshatha: but not new to websearching...?
[17:43] <akshatha> ActionParsnip, yep .. newly started to use computer .. ;-)
[17:44] <gentoo-intel> and you use vim?
[17:45] <drool> i'm wondering if linux is actually a good beginner's OS
[17:45] <whiz_> all men use vim
[17:45] <gentoo-intel> ubuntu package manager is for babies
[17:45] <StayInSkool> grr, the cursor keeps moving a lot more than i'm moving it
[17:45] <whiz_> drool, that's a silly question
[17:45] <gentoo-intel> ofc its easy
[17:45] <gentoo-intel> StayInSkool, maybe its accel?
[17:45] <StayInSkool> I don't think it's anywhere close to easy considering how many things can go wrong heh
[17:45] <drool> ^
[17:45] <whiz_> what's wrong with dropping out of hs?
[17:45] <drool> that said,
[17:45] <gentoo-intel> StayInSkool, only because it works different and new users dont know the commands
[17:46] <o0splitpaw0o> hmm
[17:46] <gentoo-intel> everyone knows windows stuff
[17:46] <o0splitpaw0o> load ~/ircspeak.pl
[17:46] <StayInSkool> gentoo-intel: I don't think users are supposed to 'know commands'
[17:46] <drool> atleast you can't get stuff life Bonzi Buddy and Comet Cursor or linux. :P
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> drool: linux is fine for all levels
[17:46] <drool> on*
[17:46] <StayInSkool> this really isn't the place to ask this question anyway. try your grandma
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> drool: hahaha
[17:47] <StayInSkool> "grandma, here's an ipad, an android tablet, a mac, a windows machine and a ubuntu machine. try to figure out how to check your email and I'll be back in an hour
[17:47] <drool> iPad is probably the most convenient, there.
[17:47] <drool> Big. Shiny. Buttons.
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> although slowest
[17:47] <StayInSkool> ActionParsnip: the grandma cares.. how?
[17:48] <gentoo-intel> StayInSkool, i think my grandma would find ubuntu easier than windows tiny little mess of a  ui
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> StayInSkool: android needs you to log in with your email address, so its already configured at startup
[17:48] <StayInSkool> gentoo-intel: you're probably right. with unity on
[17:48] <gentoo-intel> or plain gnome
[17:48] <gentoo-intel> theyre both big
[17:49] <epzil0n> o,O
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> StayInSkool: technically zero config
[17:50] <StayInSkool> ActionParsnip: I think you've just pointed out why ubuntu isn't the easiest OS for newbies :D
[17:50]  * epzil0n thinks a Mac is way easier to use for n00bs
[17:50] <StayInSkool> also yeah, mouse acceleration is on
[17:50] <orchata> Hi guys, I cannot change the date of my computer ubuntu 11.04.   When I press "Unlock to change these settings" a window appears and disappears immediately, without any promt for password. How can I investigate the problem?
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> StayInSkool: its easier than a tonne of other distros, thunderbid has a nice gmail wizard built in ;)
[17:51] <StayInSkool> it is definitely the easiest
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> StayInSkool: i dunno, xpud is fairly simple too if you ask me
[17:51] <StayInSkool> just not the easiest to pick up among other OSs
[17:51] <StayInSkool> nothing wrong with that. it's getting there
[17:51] <gentoo-intel> StayInSkool, thats because your used to Windows. just stay with it
[17:52] <gentoo-intel> the cli puts everyone off
[17:52] <StayInSkool> gentoo-intel: nice assumptions there
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> gentoo-intel: +1 dude
[17:52] <fs> hallo, i bought laptop with Ubuntu and if i want to install some programs or change something... everytime have to write password, which i dont know
[17:52] <fs> is it possible to see somewhere this password ??
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> fs: its the same password as youo log in with
[17:52] <StayInSkool> gentoo-intel: I haven't used a windows machine for more than an hour in a few years now
[17:52] <gentoo-intel> StayInSkool, mac then?
[17:53] <StayInSkool> and linux yeah
[17:53] <oCean> StayInSkool, gentoo-intel: please take the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic if you wish to continue
[17:53] <StayInSkool> and I've dealt with a large number of newbie users as part of various usability stuies
[17:53] <gentoo-intel> StayInSkool, ok well macs are built with failsafe hardware and are made to just work, so not much can go wrong lol
[17:53] <StayInSkool> oCean: cool. i'm not feeling like taking this much further anyhow :P
[17:53]  * epzil0n agrees with oCean 
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> fs: you can reset the password in root recovery mode
[17:54] <gentoo-intel> StayInSkool, try xset m 0 0 see if the mosue feels better
[17:54] <StayInSkool> also, it keeps skipping keyboard keys but I think it might be this laptop..
[17:54] <StayInSkool> gentoo-intel: thanks, let me try
[17:54] <gentoo-intel> StayInSkool, it will be slower
[17:55] <StayInSkool> hmm. if i put my finger on but do not move it the cursor moves a bit on its own
[17:56] <gentoo-intel> I have no exp with touchpads at all
[17:56] <BetaJunkie> Might anyone know where amarok stores it's list of podcast subscriptions? Not where the podcasts are themselves, but some kind of list of the RSS feeds?
[17:56] <gentoo-intel> Maybe it's just more sensitive than other os because of different driver
[17:57] <Whabo> Helllo
[17:57] <StayInSkool> gentoo-intel: it's odd, I think it's fine on the macbook which is using the same synaptics driver AFAIK
[17:57] <StayInSkool> it's definitely fine under win 7
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> StayInSkool: what model laptop (please be a sony)
[17:58] <StayInSkool> it isn't
[17:58] <ezeqlo> how can i install nvdiria drivers for gforce 525m ?
[17:58] <Amin> lol
[17:58] <StayInSkool> a monsterous Asus G73.. something
[17:58] <StayInSkool> G73m? or something
[17:58] <aeon-ltd> !nvidia > ezeqlo
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> ezeqlo: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[17:59] <StayInSkool> speaking of that! the nvidia driver keeps flashing a frame of black now and then, due to the PowerMizer apparently
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> StayInSkool: if you run:  lsmod | grep mouse     do you see psmouse?
[17:59] <StayInSkool> so many issues with this thing heh
[17:59] <StayInSkool> psmouse
[17:59] <ezeqlo> i already have latest version
[17:59] <MrWilly> having yet another problem installing 10.04 32-bit.  I can successfully create the necessary ext4 partition using gparted, but when I try to allow the installation process to do it, it completely fails.  any knows issues in this regard?
[18:00] <ezeqlo> but doesnt work ok
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> StayInSkool: try:   options psmouse proto=imps    or     options psmouse proto=bare     in /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf
[18:00] <StayInSkool> will do ActionParsnip. thanks!
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> StayInSkool: or: options psmouse proto=exps
[18:01] <StayInSkool> will restarting gdm do the trick or I need to do a full reboot?
[18:01] <DrDamnit> What's the syntax for the find command to find all files of type *.avi in the current directory and below?
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> StayInSkool: just unload then reload the reload the module, it will apply the options
[18:02] <MrWilly> DrDamnit, find . -type f -name "*.avi"
[18:02] <zykotick9> DrDamnit, "find ./ -name *.avi" would also probably work
[18:02] <MrWilly> zykotick9, yeah, my -type f is quite unnecessary, but it's habitual
[18:03] <SIFTU> I prefer -iname but anyway
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> +1 for iname
[18:03] <DrDamnit> Thanks guys... I wasn't quoting the *.avi, so it wasn't working. I knew it had to be user error!
[18:03] <zykotick9> MrWilly, i was impressed - very accurate response ;)
[18:03] <stowoda> hi, how can I scroll up in terminal without using the mouse?
[18:03] <MrWilly> zykotick9, it's my job :)
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> DrDamnit: the quotes allow for spaces in the filename
[18:04] <dylan13> So i think i might need a little guidance, i messed up a ubuntu install on my brand new computer
[18:04] <MrWilly> zykotick9, now, might you have any insight into my drive partitioning and formatting issue?
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> dylan13: details please
[18:05] <zykotick9> MrWilly, why are you using parted?  Can't you just use the installer's partitioner?
[18:05] <zykotick9> s/parted/gparted/
[18:05] <MrWilly> zykotick9, that's the problem.  the installer's partitioner fails entirely, roughly four or five minutes in
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> fr0sted: please don't away like that
[18:05] <StayInSkool> ActionParsnip: all those psmouse modes make the cursor move in a very choppy manner
[18:05] <wildc4rd> evenin all
[18:05] <Night-hacks> arm-linux-gcc is not available for  10.04 where can i find ppa or source code for compile ?
[18:05] <dylan13> I tried to install Ubuntu along side windows 7, i created 2 basically equal partitions using the tools in windows
[18:05] <fr0sted> ActionParsnip away like what sorry ?
[18:05] <zykotick9> MrWilly, sorry, i have no suggestions then - good luck.
[18:05] <StayInSkool> also it seems to accelerate vertically a lot more than horizontally
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> (19:05:20) fr0sted-away is now known as fr0sted
[18:06] <fr0sted> np
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> StayInSkool: you'll need to find the module option, you could blacklist the module, see if it loads something else on boot
[18:06] <dylan13> i loaded up the install disk and it seemed that there was no space on the hard drive so i deleted the partition i created that had nothing saved to it
[18:07] <dylan13> and installed according to http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/05/22/how-to-dual-boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-11-04/
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> fr0sted: thanks :)
[18:07] <dylan13> and now neither windows 7 or ubuntu will start up
[18:07] <witeds_> hello i was wondering is there a way to say mount a file in the home directory
[18:08] <zykotick9> witeds_, "mount a file" what are you trying to do?
[18:08] <witeds_> im trying to make a program portable and i need to mount files form the external device to the home directory
[18:08] <SIFTU> witeds_: you could symlink
[18:08] <linuxuser55> hi everyone
[18:08] <jrib> witeds_: block devices are mounted, not files
[18:08] <linuxuser55> can someone help me
[18:08] <linuxuser55> :D
[18:09] <linuxuser55> does anyone have time to help
[18:09] <witeds_> ok what would be the cli for simlyinking
[18:09] <zykotick9> witeds_, it's quite possible to mount external devices into a directory in your home folder?!
[18:09] <SIFTU> ln -s <source> <dest>
[18:09] <jrib> witeds_: ln -s TARGET NAME, but I think you should better explain what it is you are trying to accomplish
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> linuxuser55: ask and see
[18:09] <SIFTU> yeah or you could mount the drive.. which isnt a file, but rather a filesystem
[18:09] <zykotick9> witeds_, ln isn't going to help, if the device is not mounted
[18:09] <linuxuser55> Smokin' Guns/smokinguns.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libXxf86dga.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[18:09] <linuxuser55> lol@lol-laptop:~$
[18:09] <linuxuser55>  
[18:10] <linuxuser55> can someone help with that
[18:10] <FloodBot1> linuxuser55: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:10] <linuxuser55> oh sry
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> !find libXxf86dga.so.1
[18:10] <linuxuser55> so what command i should put in the terminal
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> linuxuser55: sudo  apt-get install libxxf86dga1
[18:10] <linuxuser55> ok i try it
[18:11] <witeds_> ok im trying to make a simple launcher script that can take a simple java program and put its configureation files ont the computer for the time i run it so
[18:11] <linuxuser55> libxxf86dga1 on jo uusin versio. <-- means that i got already the latest version of it
[18:11] <witeds_> that the program can be portable and i dont have to manualy copy the configs back onto the usb
[18:11] <alex88> hi guys, /q
[18:11] <alex88> sry :)
[18:11] <linuxuser55> so what i should do because it is already installed and i still cant just start the game
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> linuxuser55: ok, run:  sudo find / -iname "libXxf86dga*"    what is output? Use a pastebin to hold the outpur
[18:12] <witeds_> in windows it was done by set appdata=%cd%\
[18:12] <linuxuser55> okey wait
[18:12] <jrib> witeds_: this is a programming question
[18:12] <StayInSkool> grrr. the mouse is now moving on its own entirely and the keyboard skips even more keys
[18:12] <StayInSkool> wtfff
[18:12] <linuxuser55> http://paste.ubuntu.com/676702/
[18:13] <StayInSkool> things are ok if I'm using an external keyboard and/or mouse but what's the point of a laptop then :D
[18:13] <witeds_> yea it is
[18:13] <linuxuser55> so thats the output
[18:13] <linuxuser55> what next?
[18:13] <StayInSkool> although this thing is large enough that if I lay a keyboard on top of it it looks like a ghetto iMac
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> linuxuser55: what command are you trying to run exactly? The file is there...
[18:14] <linuxuser55> does version of my ubuntu mean anything? i use 10.04.03
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> linuxuser55: you are running lucid
[18:14] <linuxuser55> yes
[18:14] <linuxuser55> '/home/lol/Smokin'\'' Guns/smokinguns.x86' <-- thats the command what i try to run
[18:14] <linuxuser55> then i get the error
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> linuxuser55: ok and what is the output of:  uname -a
[18:15] <linuxuser55> Linux lol-laptop 2.6.32-33-generic #70-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jul 7 21:13:52 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:15] <linuxuser55> thats output of uname -a
[18:15] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip, good guess, amd64
[18:15] <Guest79442> sssss
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> linuxuser55: thought so, you are running a 64bit OS but are trying to run a 32bit app
[18:15] <linuxuser55> yes
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: boom
[18:15] <linuxuser55> i got 64 bit
[18:16] <linuxuser55> and i think there is no 64 bit version of this game
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> linuxuser55: so you need to grab the 32bit deb of the lib, extract it and put the libXxf86dga.so.1 32bit file in /usr/lib32
[18:16] <linuxuser55> how i can do it :D
[18:16] <Guest79442> 你们是那个国家的
[18:16] <zykotick9> linuxuser55, smokinguns.x86 is 32bit
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> linuxuser55: this sortof thing is why 32bit is recommended
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> linuxuser55: I already told you!
[18:16] <linuxuser55> yea but this zip doesnt include the x86_64 file
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> linuxuser55: use packages.ubuntu.com
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> nice gratitude too :(
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> oh well
[18:17] <Osmodivs> Hello.
[18:18] <dylan13> so im going to have to buy a windows 7 install disk aren't i?
[18:18] <Hasham> hi...is 11.10going to use unity again..??
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> dylan13: you can install grub from the livecD
[18:18] <zykotick9> Hasham, of course
[18:19] <Osmodivs> Did Ubuntu change something in the GRUB? Why doi have this ugly DEBIAN theme in here when I did NOT even set it up for such thing...¿¿??
[18:19] <SIFTU> dylan13: no you probably just blew away the bootloader
[18:19] <Osmodivs> http://www.pasteall.org/pic/17040
[18:19] <Hasham> hi...is 11.10going to use unity again..??
[18:19] <zykotick9> Hasham, of course - from now on
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: sure you didn't install debian?
[18:20] <zykotick9> Osmodivs, did you install from mini?
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> Hasham: yes, and replace Ubuntu Classic with Unity@d
[18:20] <unguest> I can't seem to set up my Kinect under Ubuntu
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> 2D*
[18:20] <unguest> and that's crucial
[18:20] <dylan13> i believe i installed grub on the /boot partition when i did the install. also any hints on how to repair the bootloader
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> unguest: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/multi-touch-in-ubuntu-using-kinect-video-ppa/
[18:21] <SIFTU> dylan13: bootloader go on the disk, not partition
[18:21] <Osmodivs> ActionParsnip, Of course not, I have Ubuntu 11.04, this happened when the kernel updated to 2.6.38.11
[18:21] <unguest> SIFTU: does your nick have an alternate spelling?
[18:21] <jrib> witeds_: so ask in the channel for your programming language
[18:21] <zykotick9> Osmodivs, it's the plymouth theme you are using
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: just change the plymouth theme then
[18:22] <unguest> I can't seem to graps this acronym
[18:22] <unguest> people tell me to STFU
[18:22] <unguest> not sure what they mean
[18:23] <miels> I'm having trouble setting up a service - I'm following these directions here (http://howtonode.org/deploying-node-upstart-monit) but after putting an upstart conf in /etc/init I can't execute 'start service'… am I doing something wrong?
[18:23] <unguest> is that an encourangement?
[18:23] <IdleOne> unguest: Please don't use that acronym in here and I suggest you google it to know what it means
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> unguest: does the link I gave help?
[18:24] <Krenair> I have my hard drive partitioned with one partition being Windows 7 home premium and another Ubuntu 10.04 64-bit desktop
[18:24] <unguest> Idleone: he was the first one using it, I'm just refering to an example
[18:24] <Krenair> Usually I run ubuntu
[18:24] <dylan13> Thanks for being so patient but i still don't understand what i need to do. I'm great at working in ubuntu but haven't had to install it many times, let alone dual boot"
[18:24] <unguest> see I got this Dell which came with Ubuntu
[18:24] <zaksoldier> Hi all
[18:24] <Krenair> But on the occasion that I finish using windows 7 and restart back to ubuntu, something odd occurs
[18:24] <unguest> now I can't install MS Word
[18:24] <zaksoldier> How register
[18:24] <Krenair> When I log in, ubuntu doesn't seem to be able to establish a network connection
[18:25] <kjeldor> I want to install windows after ubunto, so I searched google, and said I have to save my MBR, i want to save my MBR, so I searched google again and came up with this command: dd if=/dev/sda of=/mbr.bin bs=446 count=1  When I run it, it says permision denied.. what should I do?
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> unguest: does the link I gave help with the connect
[18:25] <zykotick9> !register > zaksoldier
[18:25] <SIFTU> unguest: no
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> unguest: use libreoffice instead, its in a default install
[18:25] <unguest> MS Word is very important to me, I write urgent emails
[18:25] <jrib> kjeldor: just install windows then reinstall grub
[18:25] <jrib> !grub | kjeldor
[18:25] <Krenair> It takes a couple of reboots and messing with my ethernet cable and power cable to fix this.
[18:25] <Krenair> What do?
[18:26] <kjeldor> OK thanks
[18:26] <unguest> by the way, You are hereby declared an heir to King Taub The Third
[18:26] <Tixos> hey
[18:26] <unguest> would be so kind as to transfer a token amount to my legitimate account in Leeds, UK?
[18:26] <Tixos> ubuntu encryption, is it possible to encrypt the whole filesystem ?
[18:27] <wasutton3> does anyone have any experience with hp wireless printers?
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> unguest: how do you mean?
[18:27] <unguest> *you
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> unguest: no, what do you mean. How is that relevant to your issues>
[18:27] <yeats> !encrypt | Tixos
[18:28] <Tixos> sorry, i didnt say encrypted directories
[18:28] <unguest> ActionParsnip: see, there's a transaction fee. In order for you to receive your rightful $3mln, please send me something of value, I don't much care what. a Dell would do.
[18:28] <Hasham> is there anyway i can migrate to gnome 3
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> unguest: take it elsewhere, this is support
[18:28] <zykotick9> !gnome3 | Hasham
[18:28] <yeats> Tixos: not sure of the reason you're asking, but I would imagine it would neither be necessary nor desirable
[18:28] <unguest> but I'm trying to get support!
[18:29] <unguest> as in financial support
[18:29] <Tixos> yeats: the reason is security
[18:29] <Tixos> and many people do it
[18:29] <oCean> unguest: please stop the offtopic talk
[18:29] <Tixos> i hear its even a feature on the alternate CD i am asking this question
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> unguest: again, this is Ubuntu support only
[18:29] <yeats> Tixos: I'm not aware of that, so I'll let others answer if they know
[18:29] <Sonarpulse> Hello everbody. I have a question about using qemu with a real boot partition
[18:29] <unguest> what would be the appropriate channel for my future business transactions?
[18:30] <oCean> unguest: please stop it now
[18:30] <zykotick9> Sonarpulse, what's the question?
[18:30] <Sonarpulse> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/QEMU#Using_any_real_partition_as_the_single_primary_partition_of_a_hard_disk_image
[18:30] <Sonarpulse> found some instructions there
[18:30] <unguest> this whole freenode is boring.
[18:30] <unguest> on another note
[18:31] <Sogorukuhn1> Hi @ all
[18:31] <Sonarpulse> basically it says to use software raid + a loopbacked mbr to fake a 1 partition disk for qemu
[18:31] <Tixos>  so, anybody else have input on my question ?
[18:32] <Sonarpulse> use mdadm to append a small mbr-sized loopback to the front of your partition
[18:32] <Sonarpulse> and uses fdisk to make a new mbr on the loopback
[18:32] <Sonarpulse> however it looks like you are just supposed to hop that fdisk only writes to your loopback
[18:33] <Sogorukuhn1> I need some help. The sound is gone. The cardes are normally detected, mixer is ok, alsa and pulse seems to be ok. aplay works fine, like everything is ok. But still no sound
[18:34] <Sonarpulse> i think I will try the qemu irc this is pretty specialized
[18:34] <watchedman> hey all, I'm dealing with an interesting issue with a multi-hard drive setup...
[18:34] <wzhh> clear
[18:35] <Tixos> guys is there any support or information on 11.04 encrypted filesystems ?  this is a bit old i guess  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemsViaUbiquity
[18:35] <watchedman> i have a tower with 4 hard drives totaling around 2tb that i want to use for audio recording (ubuntu studio)
[18:35] <watchedman> i want a dedicated disk for audio recording, the others for system and storage etc
[18:36] <watchedman> 3 are sata, 1 is sharing an ide with a dvd drive
[18:36] <E3D3_1> How can I place the window-top-buttons (close-min-max) from left to the right upper corner ?
[18:36] <WebETGUser151> hey guys
[18:36] <watchedman> what would be an ideal partitioning scheme?
[18:36] <watchedman> i'm wondering if there'd be benefits to having /swap or /home on a different drive than /
[18:36] <SIFTU> watchedman: I would software Raid + LVM personally
[18:37] <WebETGUser151> how hard is it to build a beowolf cluster using ubuntu?
[18:37] <watchedman> SIFTU, I am worried that there will be problems with recording big audio streams (multitrack 96khz/24bit) with that setup...
[18:37] <Sonarpulse> watchedman: open your DAW or whatever
[18:37] <Sonarpulse> figure out were things are put by default
[18:38] <Sonarpulse> and mount your harddrives to those directorys
[18:38] <watchedman> i would do that if i already had the OS installed but I don't
[18:38] <SIFTU> watchedman: so you want performance or redundancy?
[18:38] <watchedman> both, of course! ;>
[18:39] <ezeql> i just cant get nvdia propietary drivers working :(
[18:39] <SIFTU> watchedman: lol then raid 1+0
[18:39] <glebihan> E3D3_1, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/put-closemaximizeminimize-buttons-on-the-left-in-ubuntu/
[18:39] <Sonarpulse> @SIFTU you see my question? also about disk related stuff
[18:39] <secspy> can i upgrade to maverick using apt-get dist-upgrade? currently on lucid
[18:40] <watchedman> i basically want to have one drive dedicated just to be the destination for live audio recording, and then have the other three shared among /, /home, /swap, and storage space
[18:40] <SIFTU> get rid of the IDE drive.. or use it for backups.. get another SATA and make RAID 1+0, put LVM on top of it so you can expand your partitons at will
[18:40] <SIFTU> watchedman: there is no redundancy there
[18:40] <SIFTU> watchedman: and you performance is limited to what a single drive can put out
[18:41] <watchedman> well i would have an external e-sata drive with rsync backups of the storage
[18:41] <E3D3_1> glebihan: Thanks, I read the same but just could not believe that this is the default way.
[18:41] <watchedman> i basically don't want to take the raid plunge
[18:41] <SIFTU> Sonarpulse: I have not done that sorry
[18:41] <watchedman> in terms of buying more hardware
[18:41] <glebihan> E3D3_1, it is
[18:41] <yeats> secspy: you have to go to System -> Administration -> Software Sources and select that you want "normal releases"
[18:41] <SIFTU> watchedman: well you can have a 3 disk RAID5
[18:41] <mukti> What do you all use for desktop backups
[18:41] <blissi> Unity sucks
[18:41] <watchedman> but i don't need, like, excessive performance
[18:41] <watchedman> lol
[18:41] <miels> anyone have experience with upstart? I can't get it to recognize my service.
[18:42] <SIFTU> watchedman: you said you wanted redundancy.. thats RAID
[18:42] <mukti> blissi: I agree
[18:42] <watchedman> i'm not going to be recording more than 8 tracks simultaneously
[18:42] <Sonarpulse> If you have a solid state drive I would use that for swaps
[18:42] <famgod> im having trouble with wolfenstein enemy territory it works fine except I get o sound /dev/dsp: Input/output error * Could not mmap /dev/dsp here is a pastebin of my full error http://pastebin.com/wQbuZcpD
[18:42] <watchedman> SIFTU i didn't mean it so narrowly
[18:42] <watchedman> i just mean i want backups
[18:42] <secspy> guys i need an answer as i want to go through to natty
[18:42] <SIFTU> watchedman: ok so you dont care if a drive dies and you have to rebuild that data
[18:42] <yeats> secspy: did you see my response?
[18:42] <watchedman> correct
[18:42] <zykotick9> Sonarpulse, generally people don't want SWAP on SSD drives as it may shorten their lives
[18:42] <blissi> mukti, I'm having to run Gnome but as it's not default on the OS I'm not happy... suggestions?
[18:43] <mukti> does anyone do regular backups of their computer?
[18:43] <blissi> mukti, I like to keep inline with default settings
[18:43] <Sonarpulse> ok
[18:43] <secspy> yeats: nop, let me scroll bacl
[18:43] <blissi> !ops
[18:43] <secspy> back*
[18:43] <SIFTU> watchedman: use bonnie++ on each drive and find the fastest.. use that for your sound or whatever
[18:43] <Sonarpulse> well i'm probably out of my legue here
[18:43] <mukti> blissi: you could run it in ubuntu classic mode when you log in
[18:43] <watchedman> i'm figuring i'll just put swap as the first partition on one of the storage drives, separate from the root drive.
[18:43] <Flannel> blissi: yes?
[18:43] <Sonarpulse> just sudgestted that because it would be fastest
[18:43] <miels> anyone have experience with UPSTART?
[18:43] <blissi> Flannel, when are you going to get rid of Unity?
[18:43] <secspy> meaning apt-get wont get me going?
[18:44] <secspy> i have no gui
[18:44] <IdleOne> You used the the !ops call for that?
[18:44] <Tech-1> lol
[18:44] <Flannel> blissi: Please help keep this channel ontopic.  If you'd like to discuss how you like/dislike something, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[18:44] <yeats> secspy: ah - let me check something then.
[18:45] <watchedman> so i guess my real question is, is there any performance benefit to having /home on a different physical drive than /
[18:45] <Saeid> How can I adjust my lcd brighness in lxde desktop ?
[18:45] <zykotick9> watchedman, performance, no.
[18:45] <yeats> secspy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades#Upgrade%20from%2010.04%20LTS%20to%2010.10 (see under "Network Upgrade for Ubuntu Servers"_
[18:45] <Sogorukuhn1> Does someone have experience with solving of soundproblems?
[18:46] <polifasio> watchedman: yes.
[18:46] <watchedman> lol
[18:46] <secspy> thanks, i'ma check it out
[18:46] <watchedman> ok, zyko if not performance any other benefits? and polifasio, why?
[18:46] <yeats> !sound | Sogorukuhn1
[18:47] <zykotick9> watchedman, tab fail.  Having a separate /home would make fresh installing easier - that's about it...
[18:47] <Klossor> watchedman: not performance, but it will be handy come time for a major change to the system
[18:47] <polifasio> watchedman: in plain old mechanical drives, being at the beginning is always faster than being at the end.
[18:48] <polifasio> watchedman: in SSDs, this does not apply
[18:48] <Sogorukuhn1> @yeats: The sound cards are detected normaly, aplay looks like everything is ok but still no sound, mixer configuration is ok
[18:48] <Sogorukuhn1> @yeats: http://pastebin.com/HBykkKDE
[18:49] <zykotick9> polifasio, i'm not sure your statement re: HDs is even accurate
[18:49] <polifasio> watchedman: historically, all linux distributions separate /home from the rest of the system. It was only until Lindows (later Linspire), and later Ubuntu, that it is placed all in one.
[18:49] <secspy> thanks for the site yeats
[18:49] <watchedman> ok i'm starting to understand this. so if i want to not deal with LVM or RAID, but have a 'poor man' logical separation between good performing hard drive space and performance-unimportant storage space on a bunch of HDD's, i can just partition each one and put what i want to perform well as the first partition of each?
[18:49] <yeats> secspy: no problem ;-)
[18:49] <blissi> !ops - There are too many typos in this channel. It's getting annoying.
[18:50] <polifasio> zykotick9: this is something that happens with magnetic driven disks since the dawn of time
[18:50] <oCean> blissi: stop that
[18:50] <jigal> hello i am trying to connect to my local apache server. I have created a virtual host and enabled it in my sites-enabled but when i browse my site i get www.site.com can not be found. No error in my apache log. what should i do?
[18:50] <blissi> jigal, pastebin the vhost
[18:51] <E3D3_1> polifasio: I just set up a LVM with the alternate Ubuntu but it/I put /home inside the root, Is it easy to separate it again. I like to experimentate with a shared /home between multiple OS's ?
[18:52] <zykotick9> watchedman, personally i don't think Software Raid and/or LVM will be much benefit, and will certainly add a significant level of complexity to your setup.  Good luck, whatever you choose.
[18:52] <watchedman> E3D3_1 I read that sharing /home among OS's is risky because many system settings are stored in /home
[18:52] <kermit> how do i set the block size on a device  when it lies (4k drive saying its 512)
[18:52] <watchedman> thanks zyko
[18:52] <jigal> blissi, http://pastebin.com/J15XcU5v
[18:53] <zykotick9> E3D3_1, from personally experience i can say sharing /home can lead to unexpected issues
[18:53] <zykotick9> watchedman, watch your TAB completion "z yko" might not like being thanked :)
[18:53] <drakos> ,,,
[18:54] <polifasio> E3D3_1: yes and no. It is comparatively easy to separate it. However, using one /home with different versions and different distributions would be troublesome, unless you stuck to the bare basics.
[18:54] <blissi> jigal, does your index.php work ?
[18:54] <zykotick9> watchedman, oh there isn't a zyko - you're just not using TAB, I'm on the trolley now
[18:54] <greenit> hi, does any1 have a nvidia graphics card?
[18:54] <polifasio> E3D3_1: and when I mean bare basics, I mean no graphical interface
[18:54] <jigal> blink, it doesn't even get to my index.php
[18:54] <watchedman> zykotick9: thanks for teaching me an IRC feature =)
[18:55] <E3D3_1> watchedman: zykotick9: polifasio: Thanks all for sharing.
[18:55] <jigal> blissi, it doesn't even get there
[18:55] <Sogorukuhn1> Here my AlsaInfo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/676725/
[18:55] <blissi> jigal, have you tried accessing it without any modifications to Apache?
[18:56] <polifasio> [|;
[18:56] <greenit> help plz! i have a nivida graphics card and the windows are lagging when i move them....
[18:56] <greenit> is there a way to get rid of this?
[18:57] <zykotick9> greenit, have you installed the nvidia proprietary driver for you card?
[18:57] <jigal> blissi, nope but i can't navigate to it
[18:57] <polifasio> greenit: kid, you need to give up more info. Hardware, Ubuntu version, drivers installed, other things you have tried...
[18:57] <greenit> zykotick9, yeah, it is installed by default....
[18:57] <zykotick9> greenit, not be default no
[18:57] <E3D3_1> polifasio: You mean a whole OS without GUI or just the installation/move-procedures ?
[18:59] <polifasio> E3D3_1: for /home to work between different distros? nowadays you would need to stick pretty much to the command line. Most graphical environments have customizations for distros.
[18:59] <[THC]AcidRain> what channel do i ask for hardware support?
[18:59] <greenit> zykotick9, when i click on additional drivers, there is "accelerated graphics driver (current version)" and on the bottom: "This driver is activated, but not used."
[18:59] <oCean> [THC]AcidRain: channel ##hardware
[18:59] <zykotick9> greenit, that's just a bug - if it's working, ignore it.
[19:00] <[THC]AcidRain> ok. is there a ubuntu command to get my mobo type?
[19:00] <[THC]AcidRain> the only markings on it is AM2++
[19:00] <polifasio> E3D3_1: for moving it to another partition? it is just a matter of having the new partition ready, and moving the info (THIS CANNOT BE DONE WHILE LOGGED IN).
[19:00] <zykotick9> [THC]AcidRain, i don't think so, the chipsets used probably, but the mobo itself - don't think so
[19:00] <greenit> zykotick9, thats the problem... it works, but the windows are lagging when i move them...
[19:01] <greenit> my hardware is: nvidia gtx 570
[19:01] <greenit> ubuntu: 64-bit system
[19:01] <zykotick9> greenit, well, when you run glxgears do you get a reasonable FPS
[19:02] <polifasio> E3D3_1: ...you might need to fiddle with some mapping, but moving it would be little trouble. But as I said above, using it between *multiple* distros, that will lead to headaches these days.
[19:02] <polifasio> bbl
[19:02] <greenit> zykotick9, do i have to install them first?
[19:02] <miels> anyone with upstart experience? it's not recognizing anything
[19:02] <zykotick9> greenit, the mesa-utils package includes glxgears/glxinfo
[19:03] <E3D3_1> polifasio: Funny that part of the LVM is much more simple than it looks & part is full of exceptions. I will play with it on my USB-hard-disc. Thanks for the warnings & kind help.
[19:03] <greenit> zykotick9, erm... do i see the fps anywhere?
[19:03] <greenit> ah, in the terminal, forget it^^
[19:03] <zykotick9> greenit, start glxgears from a terminal
[19:04] <greenit> zykotick9, i use guake, so i dont see the terminal normally ;)
[19:04] <greenit> zykotick9, i get 60 fps
[19:04] <zykotick9> greenit, your nvidia-drivers aren't working/install correctly then!
[19:04] <devish> is there something on how to host website on ubuntu ?
[19:04] <SIFTU> greenit: you have vsync enabled
[19:05] <zykotick9> SIFTU, i'd think it would still be WAY above 60
[19:05] <goer> Hi all. Anyone tried this (E17) with Mint? url= http://maketecheasier.com/run-enlightenment-e17-on-ubuntu-karmic/2010/01/14
[19:05] <SIFTU> greenit: try "vblank_mode=0 glxgears"
[19:05] <SIFTU> zykotick9: not when it's syncing with the refresh rate
[19:06] <goer> Mint+E17 would HAVE to be the ultimate combination?
[19:06] <greenit> still 60 fps...
[19:07] <zykotick9> SIFTU, my FPS are in the thousands with vsync enabled?
[19:07] <goer> Sorry, I meant Ubuntu (not Mint)
[19:07] <greenit> zykotick9, how do i install the driver correctly
[19:07] <greenit> ?
[19:07] <SIFTU> zykotick9: mine stay at 60, unless i set the env variable to vblank_mod=0
[19:08] <zykotick9> SIFTU, using that here just increases my FPS by a thousand or so
[19:08] <miels> is this the right upstart script? http://pastebin.com/vkYurQGD
[19:08] <SIFTU> zykotick9: it shouldnt have :)
[19:08] <SIFTU> zykotick9: compiz also kills those figures
[19:09] <zykotick9> SIFTU, running compiz here, not sure if it's vsync is currently enabled though
[19:09] <greenit> do i have to install the nvidia driver new when the gears have constantly 60 fps?
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> greenit: does nvidia-settings kick up an error when it runs?
[19:10] <bashelina> i get permission denied when i try to write to my external disk
[19:10] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip, not is use thing
[19:10] <bashelina> /dev/sdf1  /media/seagate  ext4 user,rw 0 0
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> greenit: glxgears is a poor 3D performance test
[19:10] <zykotick9> bashelina, change the permissions on the mount point
[19:10] <jpmh> I have a printer on /dev/usb/lp0 - I can print to it directly, text only - I tried to set up a lp setting, text only tc - all seems fine - it accepts te jobs etc.   They get queued but they never start to print, what's the issue
[19:10] <SIFTU> ActionParsnip: yes but it is clearly showing a problem here
[19:10] <greenit> ActionParsnip, nope, it says nothing
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> SIFTU: possibly
[19:10] <bashelina> zykotick9,  how ?
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> greenit: wht nvidia chip is it?
[19:11] <zykotick9> bashelina, do you want anyone to be able to write to it?
[19:11] <SIFTU> ActionParsnip: the fps is synced with the screen refresh rate.. there is no way a GT 570 would get 60fps at full speed
[19:11] <bashelina> zykotick9,  but the directories in /media should be owned by root
[19:11] <greenit> ActionParsnip, do you mean the name of my graphics card?
[19:11] <zykotick9> bashelina, "sudo chmod 777 /media/seagate" would work (give everyone write access)
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> greenit: just the video chip please
[19:12] <greenit> ActionParsnip, where do i see it?
[19:12] <zykotick9> greenit, "lspci | grep -i vga"
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> greenit: as zykotick9 says
[19:12] <caterpillar797> hi
[19:12] <greenit> ActionParsnip, gf110
[19:12] <bashelina> zykotick9,  ah ok,,, thougt all dirs where 755 .... thx
[19:13] <bashelina> zykotick9,  ah ok,,, thougt all dirs where 755 .... thx
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> greenit: ok and can you pastebin the output of:  lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | grep nvidia      Thanks
[19:13] <konbon> can i get some hard drive mounting help please. This is the error i get when i try to use Disk Utility to mount the drive. http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/1226/screenshotaqu.png
[19:13] <devish> any one
[19:14] <devish> there got to be something on web hosting /
[19:14] <jake_> can anyone help me with installing flash on joli os?
[19:14] <zykotick9> devish, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[19:14] <konbon> It says that "according to mtab none is already mounted to none"
[19:14] <Slart> jake_: joli os?
[19:15] <greenit> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/Z9rfPgC3
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> konbon: its a partition, not a drive. You are mounting /dev/sda1   sda is the drive, sda1 is the partition
[19:15] <jigal> hello i am trying to connect to my local apache server. I have created a virtual host and enabled it in my sites-enabled but when i browse my site i get www.site.com can not be found. No error in my apache log. what should i do?
[19:15] <konbon> so, how can i mount it ?
[19:15] <zykotick9> Slart, jolios is an ubuntu derivative for netbooks
[19:15] <jake_> yeah, i was looking at better os than windows and it said joli os was good for netbooks
[19:15] <Slart> zykotick9: ah.. thanks.. didn't know that
[19:15] <bashelina> zykotick9,  Hey i found another way to solve it
[19:15] <Tyrant> When creating a shared library using ld, how do I also link it to another static or shared library, such as libusb?
[19:15] <beaker__> ubuntu 11.04 is also good for netbooks if you stick with unity
[19:16] <zykotick9> bashelina, which is?
[19:16] <dylan13> I repaired the bootloader but it still won't start up in windows
[19:16] <jake_> everytime i try to install flash it said it fails
[19:16] <bashelina> zykotick9,  chaning the ownership of the mount point to   root:users
[19:16] <nkh1> hi, how should I config my remaster to remove "install Release" icon from desktop after installing?? I put it to /etc/skel/Desktop to appear in live mode but I DO NOT want it to appear after install on desktop! :|
[19:16] <beaker__> @dylan13 when you try to start windows does it return to the loader?
[19:16] <bashelina> zykotick9,  all regular users are in group users so they access
[19:17] <dylan13> @beaker_: yeah it just loops over and over
[19:17] <jerry_> Hi I'm looking fr Ubuntu / Pinguy Help
[19:17] <ezeql> how can i solve "ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
[19:17] <ezeql>          installing.  For further details, please see the section INSTALLING
[19:17] <ezeql>          THE NVIDIA DRIVER in the README available on the Linux driver
[19:17] <ezeql>          download page at www.nvidia.com.
[19:17] <ezeql> " ?
[19:17] <FloodBot1> ezeql: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:17] <jake_> how would i unistall joli os? i have it dual booted
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> greenit: add this ppa to get the 280  driver. may help https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates?field.series_filter=natty
[19:17] <Grey_Loki> 15
[19:18] <zykotick9> ezeql, installing the driver from nvidia.com isn't recommended/supported here - you should consider using the drivers provided by Ubuntu
[19:18] <Slart> jake_: I think you'll be better off trying some of the support options that Jolicloud offers.. http://www.jolicloud.com/support seems to list some
[19:18] <konbon> ActionParsnip, do you know how i can change the settings to force it to mount on sda1?
[19:18] <jerry_> Does anyne have time for a Update manager question?
[19:18] <Slart> jake_: you might also want to check this http://help.jolicloud.com/home
[19:18] <zykotick9> konbon, /dev/sda1 is a device not a mount point, and devices are managed by udev/kernel
[19:19] <jigal> i get this error when entering my host name in chrome : Error 105 (net::ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED): Unable to resolve the server's DNS address.
[19:19] <bashelina> zykotick9,  i mean the mount p
[19:19] <jake_> slart: thats's where i looked at everything
[19:19] <konbon> is there a GUI app that can make it easier? lol
[19:19] <jigal> any ideas
[19:19] <bashelina> zykotick9,  i mean the mount point direcroty in /media
[19:19] <konbon> im not too familiar with Ubuntu
[19:19] <EzeQL2> zykotick9,  but i cannot get the default installed nvdia drivers working :(
[19:19] <greenit> ActionParsnip, erm... btw, i have a problem with ubuntu one.... it always notifies me that it syncs, but it doesnt, it gets no connection
[19:20] <zykotick9> EzeQL2, ahhh, well best of luck then.
[19:20] <Slart> jake_: try the getsatisfaction support page.. we can only help you with ubuntu in this channel
[19:20] <EzeQL2> "The driver is activated but not in use" under Addiotal Drivers..
[19:20] <jake_> oh, sorry
[19:20] <zykotick9> bashelina, is this an NTFS partition?
[19:21] <jerry_> I have a question
[19:21] <zykotick9> !ask > jerry_
[19:21] <SIFTU> greenit: I found how to reproduce you problem on my system
[19:21] <jerry_> new here ... don't know how to get private msg
[19:21] <greenit> SIFTU, which problem? the nvidia prob or the ubuntu one prob?^^
[19:21] <zykotick9> jerry_, sorry - just ask your question
[19:21] <K350> How do I see what sound-divece I've under /dev/blaha?
[19:22] <nkh1> Any Ideas on my question with remastersys? >> I want to remove "Install Release" icon from desktop after installing, automatically
[19:22] <SIFTU> greenit: nvidia
[19:22] <Slart> jerry_: it should show up somewhere in your irc-program.. a new tab or some other thing.. it can differ a lot between different irc programs
[19:22] <jerry_> Ok please bear with me a sec ... I need to gather info...
[19:22] <greenit> SIFTU, k
[19:22] <greenit> SIFTU, did u solve it? :)
[19:22] <SIFTU> greenit: yeah.. load up nvidia-settings
[19:22] <greenit> SIFTU, how, where?
[19:23] <SIFTU> greenit: you could just type it in a terminal to test
[19:23] <jerry_> I have a problem that is affecting the Update manager, Synaptic, and the Ubuntu Software center .... error msg to follow
[19:23] <jerry_> E:Malformed line 59 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse), E:Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/apticons.list (dist parse)
[19:23] <bashelina> zykotick9,  nah it didnt work
[19:23] <bashelina> zykotick9,  no just an external usb harddisk
[19:23] <greenit> SIFTU, ok, but how do i upload these settings?
[19:23] <SIFTU> greenit: do you see sync to vblank on like this http://dl.dropbox.com/u/906920/screenshots/screenshot-20110828122044.jpeg
[19:24] <zykotick9> bashelina, what format is it?  extX or FAT/NTFS?
[19:24] <greenit> SIFTU, yes
[19:24] <jerry_> How do I repair/fix the source error?
[19:24] <EzeQL2> why is all too dificult :( ?
[19:24] <SIFTU> greenit: turn it off
[19:24] <SIFTU> greenit: run glxgears again.. tell me the fps
[19:25] <bashelina> zykotick9, ext4
[19:25] <zykotick9> jerry_, the particular file with the issue is /etc/apt/sources.list.d/apticons.list and it's on line 1 -
[19:25] <zykotick9> bashelina, are you saying my chmod on the mount point isn't working, or your attempt to change the owner isn't working?
[19:26] <jerry_> Zykotick ... yes... I loked at it but nothing appeared out of normal.... I don't know what to do t fix it.
[19:26] <bashelina> chmod 777 does work
[19:26] <bashelina> zykotick9, 777 does work
[19:26] <zykotick9> bashelina, right - so what's the problem?
[19:26] <bashelina> zykotick9,   ive used all directories 755 within /media   in the past
[19:27] <zykotick9> bashelina, ? well 755 doesn't give write access to group and other - so i'm not sure how.  Good luck man.
[19:28] <cjae> wasnt there a logitech keyboard tool called mx5000tools or something
[19:28] <cjae> got a 5500mx want to try to get some more keys workings
[19:28] <cjae> -s
[19:28] <bashelina> zykotick9,   ok thx
[19:29] <greenit> SIFTU, it killed my computer... and now i have 18170 fps^^
[19:29] <rodhash> Hello guys.. Pls, I want to update xserver-xorg-video-intel from 2:2.13 to 2:2.14.. but I found only to naty and I'm running maverick... Is there any problem to download and upgrade it?
[19:29] <SIFTU> Grey_Loki: killed it?
[19:29] <jerry_> ZYKOTICK  .. Thanks ... I know where the problem lies ... I just don't know how to fix it.  It is preventing me me from downloading any software or updating packages.
[19:30] <dylan13> So can anyone point me in the right direction? I repaired the bootloader and it still won't boot into windows.
[19:30] <SIFTU> greenit: killed it?
[19:30] <zykotick9> rodhash, just guessing, but you'd probably need to update all of xorg to use that driver - probably NOT what you want.
[19:30] <greenit> SIFTU, yeah, probably because the 270 driver was inscribed, but i replaced it by the 280 driver
[19:30] <Merlinux> Hmm
[19:30] <SIFTU> greenit: ah ok.. so is it all working now?
[19:30] <Merlinux> I'm having problems with my wlan..
[19:31] <Moshanator> jerry_, any reason for wanting that specific version?
[19:31] <greenit> SIFTU, yes, but not fluently, the computer is lagging when i run them
[19:31] <jerry_> Nope.... I just want to get it fixed... if you refer to the error msg there are three parts.  Here it is again ...
[19:31] <jerry_> E:Malformed line 59 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse), E:Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/apticons.list (dist parse)
[19:32] <Moshanator> oh, i meant rodhash
[19:32] <SIFTU> greenit: hmm.. is your cpu getting stressed during it?
[19:32] <urlin2u> jerry_, pastebin the apt sourecs list
[19:32] <rodhash> Moshanator: To fix this error --> get vblank counter failed: Invalid argument
[19:32] <Moshanator> k
[19:32] <bashelina> rodhash,  yea i had problem with intel xserver video driver with natty.. it worked fine with maverick
[19:33] <K350> Is there anyone here who uses mp3blaster?
[19:33] <greenit> SIFTU, i dont know, but i dont want to run it again^^
[19:33] <rodhash> bashelina: Sorry? You fixed it upgrading the driver? To this versin I mentioned?
[19:33] <jerry_> URLIN2U  I don't understand pastebin the apt sourecs list???
[19:33] <zykotick9> !paste | jerry_
[19:34] <SIFTU> greenit: it works on the fly on my system with no problems.. just run system monitor or something and see what your cpu usage is like now
[19:34] <bashelina> rodhash,  no im stuck with maverick , cant upgrade to natty :(
[19:34] <jerry_> So if I go to paste.ubuntu.com the text will appear here?
[19:34] <greenit> SIFTU, only 2 of the cores are on 100%
[19:35] <rodhash> bashelina: Oh, I got it.. In my case I'm not upgrading to natty... I'm just upgrading the vide driver, used in natty
[19:35] <SIFTU> greenit: lol thats bad
[19:35] <Flannel> jerry_: You paste stuff into that page, then it'll give you a url, which you give to people here
[19:35] <SIFTU> greenit: run top in a terminal as see whats using it all
[19:35] <jerry_> ahhhh thanks ... got it :)
[19:35] <urlin2u> jerry_, if you run in the terminal cat /etc/apt/sources.list  you will see the list in the terminal, if you run sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list you will get a read and write pastebin ethier. http://paste.ubuntu.com/ you also a have a /etc/apt/sources.list.d  you can look at for the other error
[19:35] <bashelina> rodhash,  but does to regular natty intel driver work any good ?
[19:36] <rodhash> bashelina: I found something saying yes.. on bug reports
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> bashelina: its pretty good here
[19:37] <greenit> SIFTU, 100% glxgears, 49% Xorg, 46% compiz
[19:38] <SIFTU> greenit: I thought you were not running glxgears
[19:38] <jerry_> Ok  the error text is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/676752/
[19:39] <greenit> SIFTU, it is only lagging like hell when i run them... without it only lags a bit when i move the windows
[19:39] <urlin2u> jerry_, run the cat, ir gedit command and post thise outputs.
[19:39] <slinzex> Hi all, I'm using wifi usb device CT-WN4322Z. On the off site the link to download driver is not available for linux now. I always thinked that it was zydas chipset, but now I saw the cover... How to obtain the latest and best driver for ubuntu?
[19:39] <SIFTU> greenit: makes sense thats its lagging with CPU being hit like that
[19:39] <greenit> SIFTU, and without them compiz uses 17%
[19:39] <rodhash> Guys.. Does anyone know if I can use packages from natty or oneiric on maverick ??
[19:39] <SIFTU> greenit: something is wrong there with the driver or something
[19:39] <greenit> SIFTU, and thats the highest usage
[19:40] <jerry_> URLIN2U  I need a little hand holding with terminal commands
[19:40] <glebihan> rodhash, you shouldn't
[19:40] <jerry_> so I type in cat, ir gedit?
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> rodhash: its not advised and may break your OS but technically you can. You may make a mess of your packages, requiring a lot of work or reinstall
[19:41] <urlin2u> jerry_, no problem,  run sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  copy and paste the whole file, and be careful you're in read write mode with it open
[19:42] <jerry_> Thanks URLIN ... From the error there are two separate files.  Do I run the command for each and post the results?
[19:42] <SIFTU> greenit: did you ever manually install the nvidia drivers?
[19:42] <urlin2u> jerry_, lets start with the regular sources.list
[19:42] <jerry_> ok
[19:43] <SIFTU> greenit: i.e. download them from nvidia site and install them?
[19:43] <renancoelho> hello, I am at the flash shockwave website on ubuntu. how do I download the update and update it? Thanks for any help.
[19:43] <cjae> Is this relevant anymore? http://download.gna.org/mx5000tools/
[19:44] <greenit> SIFTU, i tested it in linux mint, but they did work like the ones installed from the repos
[19:45] <urlin2u> renancoelho, post a link to that site
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> renancoelho: shockwave don't own flash anymore, it is Adobe's  property now
[19:46] <SIFTU> greenit: I'm just saying as manual versions leave old files behind causing that type of behaviour
[19:46] <renancoelho> at the adobe website... http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> renancoelho: if you want flash then install flashplugin-nonfree   and you will have flash plugin for your browsers
[19:46] <greenit> SIFTU, oh, i didnt install drivers manually since i installed ubuntu
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> renancoelho: you don't need the website
[19:47] <urlin2u> renancoelho, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[19:47] <renancoelho> i have flash on firefox. I just want to update it to the latest version...
[19:47] <SIFTU> greenit: are you running 64bit?
[19:47] <greenit> SIFTU, yes
[19:47] <jerry_> URLIN2  Here is the source list text .... the first three lines are the error message that I get in the Update Manager.  Here it is... http://paste.ubuntu.com/676759/
[19:48] <urlin2u> renancoelho, install the firefox addon flash aid choose the beta in the wizard
[19:49] <SIFTU> greenit: can you 'find /usr/lib64 -iname "libgl*"'
[19:49] <greenit> SIFTU, nope
[19:49] <zeleftikam> need help: installed 11.04 server on an HP DL580 rackmount server, at first boot it goes trough BIOS find and seems to boot into Ubuntu, but my monitor loses the signal and says Analog Not Optimum Mode and there is no picture. Any ideas on how to get the display to work?
[19:49] <greenit> SIFTU, no output
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> distinct lack of thankyous tonight :(
[19:50] <slinzex> Hi all, I'm using wifi usb device CT-WN4322Z. On the off site the link to download driver is not available for linux now. I always thinked that it was zydas chipset, but now I saw the cover... How to obtain the latest and best driver for ubuntu?
[19:50] <SIFTU> greenit: ah ok
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> zeleftikam: what video chip does it use?
[19:50] <SIFTU> let me see
[19:50] <zeleftikam> ActionParsnip, ATI Rage XL
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> zeleftikam: try the boot option: nomodeset
[19:50] <zykotick9> jerry_, mixing repositories of Ubuntu/Mint/Others is a terrible idea!
[19:50] <zeleftikam> ActionParsnip, how do i do that
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | zeleftikam
[19:51] <nailox> hi all. Im on ubu 10.4 when i try crontab -e i get: command not found. i run it as root. any ideas ?
[19:51] <jerry_> URLIN Thanks for the help BTW  I am getting ready to deploy t the Hurricane zone and I need to get my computer straightened out.
[19:51] <zeleftikam> ActionParsnip, will do. thanks very much!
[19:51] <SIFTU> greenit: can you 'find /usr/lib -iname "libgl*"'
[19:51] <SciurusDoomus> How is the hurricane zone? Everything's perfectly fine in MA even though everyone's overreacting.
[19:52] <urlin2u> jerry_, the line 59 404's put a # in front of it in the open list and save
[19:52] <jerry_> ZYKOTICK ... I have had to jump back and fourth between the two a few times to get a distro to work on my computer ... any mixing is unintentional
[19:52] <greenit> SIFTU, yes
[19:52] <SIFTU> greenit: pastebinit
[19:52] <nailox> can anyone help me with cron ? "crontab -e" says command not found
[19:52] <jerry_> URLIN Thanks ... regardind the other error on Line 1 ... do I do the same?
[19:53] <SciurusDoomus> @nailox are all the packages installed?
[19:53] <greenit> SIFTU, http://pastebin.com/ks1vQDZX
[19:53] <nailox> SciurusDoomus i can find cron.d in /etc .. not sure if that means its installed
[19:53] <urlin2u> jerry_, you also have a strange mixture of sources in that file including mint.
[19:54] <zykotick9> urlin2u, you're wasting your time trying to fix jerry_'s issue i'm afraid - did you see the repos in there paste?  That's a disaster.
[19:54] <greenit> any1 else has a problem with ubuntu one? it always tells me that i syncs, but it doesnt get a connection to sync... however, i am logged in through it
[19:54] <jerry_> Is there a way I can clean the mint material?
[19:54] <SciurusDoomus> I dunno if I can help you, then... what package is contrab listed under?
[19:54] <urlin2u> zykotick9, I know I was hoping somebody else would notice, thanks.;)
[19:55] <nailox> SciurusDoomus how do i check that ?
[19:55] <jerry_> Urlin2u Thats why they pay you guys the big bucks :)
[19:55] <guntbert> greenit: ask in #ubuntuone please
[19:55] <zeleftikam> ActionParsnip, no good. holding/pressing SHIFT at startup as described by the directions does not give me the GRUB menu. It says Booting from (C:), GRUB Loading, then the monitor shuts off
[19:55] <greenit> guntbert, k, thx :)
[19:55] <valberg> hi - i'm having problems getting my wine (running on ubuntu 11.04) to detect my dvd drive (i'm trying to burn a iso file using imgburn which is a win program)
[19:55] <valberg> somehow ubuntu just got too fancy and i can't just write /media/cdrom for the drive location
[19:55] <valberg> any ideas?
[19:56] <zykotick9> valberg, /media/cdrom is a mount point NOT a device!!!
[19:56] <SciurusDoomus> @Nailox do you have Cron installed? As I understand it Crontab is just tables for Cron.
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> valberg: why bother, there are plenty of native burners
[19:56] <guntbert> valberg: why don't you use a native burner?
[19:56] <guntbert> hmph ... :)
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> !burner | valberg
[19:56] <valberg> ActionParsnip: it doesnt work
[19:56] <valberg> i've tried with brasero twice
[19:57] <guntbert> !work | valberg
[19:57] <nailox> SciurusDoomus yes it wasnt installed. got it now. thx
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> valberg: and how aboutwith xfburn?
[19:57] <zeleftikam> ActionParsnip, any ideas on where i should go from here?
[19:57] <SciurusDoomus> nailox No problem. Best of luck.
[19:57] <valberg> ohh you're just a big bunch of jolly peeps :)
[19:57] <zykotick9> guntbert, "... Is it on IRC all the time?..." is why that's one of my favourite factoids on freenode
[19:57] <valberg> ActionParsnip: haven't tried - don't have unlimited supplies of dvd's :) - but will give it a try
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> zeleftikam: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[19:58] <Voita> Could someone please help me with my wireless card. Seems it no longer can find my router.
[19:58] <zeleftikam> ActionParsnip, no
[19:58] <zeleftikam> i just got it from the Ubuntu site
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> valberg: use one of the other burners, there are more than brasero.
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> valberg: personally I have had zero luck with brasero, xfburn kicks ass
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> zeleftikam: irrelevant, the data may have been damaged in transit
[19:58] <zeleftikam> ActionParsnip, Mac OS X checked the disc image before burning it
[19:59] <Bjorklund> Hello, I'm doing a full backup of my files to DVDs. I want to use an archive with them, but tar.gz seems to be unsuited for archives over 2 GB. What archive should I use?
[19:59] <zeleftikam> idk if that's good enough or what
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> zeleftikam: if you didn't provide the MD5 hash, how do you know it checked it ok?
[19:59] <zeleftikam> i don't know, i don't know anything about how MD5 checks work
[19:59] <zeleftikam> sorry
[19:59] <Voita> I just installet 11.04 and my wireless is not working any more?
[19:59] <valberg> ActionParsnip: sounds great :)
[19:59] <zykotick9> Bjorklund, actually your ISO DVD is the cause of the 2GB limitation, i think you could use UDF to get over that.
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | zeleftikam
[20:00] <zeleftikam> ActionParsnip, I don't have Windows
[20:00] <Bjorklund> zykotick9, could you explain what the differences are?
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> zeleftikam: read te page fully
[20:00] <zeleftikam> i did
[20:01] <zeleftikam> the word "Mac" does not appear on the page
[20:01] <Bjorklund> I'm switching back to Windows, Ubuntu has failed me for the last time.
[20:01] <blissi> !ops
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> zeleftikam: it has an MD5 test method for Mac, so you clearly didn't
[20:01] <blissi> someone is switching back to Windows!!!!!
[20:01] <Bjorklund> ...
[20:01] <Corey> blissi: Yess?
[20:01] <Bjorklund> That's not an emergency. It's personal preference.
[20:01] <blissi> Corey, see above message
[20:01] <zykotick9> Bjorklund, i've only had to use UDF once - to get a big file onto a DVD.  But regular ISO style DVDs will be limited to the 2GB (or less) per file.  Personally archiving your backups might not be a great idea (saves space, but if anything is corrupt you loose it all)
[20:01] <Corey> blissi: Stop abusing the ops trigger.
[20:02] <Voita> someone who has knowledge about wireless cards and network who can please help me out?
[20:02] <blissi> !ops
[20:02] <Bjorklund> Ah, alright zykotick9.
[20:02] <zeleftikam> ActionParsnip, http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> !details | Voita
[20:02] <blissi> please stop abusing your chan ops status!
[20:02] <Corey> Flannel: With a quickness.  Beat me to it. :-)
[20:02] <zeleftikam> where does it explain what to do on Mac OS X?
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> zeleftikam: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM   look on the right hand side
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> zeleftikam: i made ubottu give you  that link, so you can use it
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> zeleftikam: why are you looking at other pages when I already did the work for you?????
[20:03] <Voita> sorry! just installed ubuntu 11.04 in my eeepc and I can not find my wireless anymore. Wire still works
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> Voita: which eeepc?
[20:03] <Voita> 1000H
[20:03] <Voita> asus
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> Voita: ALL eepcs are by asus ;)
[20:04] <Voita> :)
[20:04] <Merlinux> Is Ubuntu Init Script something that needs to be installed? :s
[20:04] <Younder> what is gnome-typing-monitor?
[20:04] <flametai1> Anyone experienced with booting Windows 7 with grub???
[20:05] <Bjorklund> Alright, I suppose a few pictures being corrupt is better than EVERYTHING.
[20:05] <Voita> could it be it not finding the driver? i do get online with wire?
[20:05] <urlin2u> flametai1, some do is it after a ubunru install?
[20:05] <urlin2u> ubintu*
[20:05] <zeleftikam> ActionParsnip, i can make Disk Utility give me a CRC32 checksum for the ISO, but https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes which is linked from what you sent me to has no CRC32 hashes listed
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> Voita: if you run: sudo lshw -C network    you will see a product line, you can websearch that to find a guide. Is there a shortcut button to turn the wifi off and on?
[20:05] <zeleftikam> Disk Utility on Mac OS X won't give me an MD5 checksum
[20:06] <urlin2u> flametai1, try sudo update-grub in ubuntu
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> !hashes
[20:06] <Voita> no shortcut button i networkmanager that i can find
[20:06] <jerry_> URLIN2U   I added the # in Gedit but it didn't help.  Is there anyway I can just get a clean file to replace this Frankenstein Monster?
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> Voita: its on the actual keyboard itself
[20:06] <zeleftikam> ActionParsnip, give me a while i'm going to work on this and get back to you if i have problems :) thanks so far
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> zeleftikam: the guide shows how to MD5 and the hashes page has the correct hashes of the images
[20:06] <urlin2u> jerry_, you have a very borked setup we can't really help to be honest.
[20:07] <zykotick9> jerry_, replacing the sources.list file isn't goint to help if you've installed stuff from the other repos
[20:07] <zeleftikam> ActionParsnip, got it, the hash is identical to what Ubuntu lists
[20:07] <Voita> yes there is a button on the keyboard :) but it doesnt seem to be the issue
[20:07] <[0xDEAD]> anyone know how I get the indicator-mutliload to show up in the top panel in unity?  I've added the ppa and installed it using apt-get but I'm still trying to figure out how to get it to show up.
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> Voita: Fn+F2 enable/disables the wireless, does pressing it make it work?
[20:07] <jerry_> Gee whiz   Do you have any suggestions how I can put it right?  I am getting ready to deply to the hurricane zone and I need to get my computer working right.
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> zeleftikam: good, remember to check the image BEFORE using it, so you know you aren't working with damaged data
[20:08] <zeleftikam> good tip
[20:08] <Voita> no sorry it doesnt... i will try to google what you told me before and get back if i dont solve it.. thanx so far :)
[20:08] <flametai1> urlin2u, I installed linux awhile ago, just no put Windows 7 as a duel boot, updated grub and it worked for about a night, came down this morning and Windows 7 was frozen so I had to do a manual shutdown, now when ever I select Windows 7 it just restarts the computer, I even tried using the repair disk.
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> Voita: then use the lshw outpupt to find guides :)
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> zeleftikam: don't worry, loads don't
[20:09] <zeleftikam> ActionParsnip, loads don't?
[20:09] <urlin2u> flametai1, run this script and pastebin the RESULTS.text file  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> zeleftikam: could always try the minimal ISO I guess. The server OS installs in text mode so it's a bit weird how it is screwing up
[20:10] <LABcrab> Hello!  How do i write a fraction that says one-tenth in Ubuntu?  Here: ¼ ½ ¾
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> zeleftikam: could try forcing safe vga as a boot option
[20:10] <jerry_> ZYKOTICK  I think the problem might be in a back up I have.  If I do a backup and omit my APT folder.  Then do a clean install of Pinguy will that prevent the crappy source list from copying?
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> zeleftikam: loads of people don't md5 test
[20:11] <Shimotsukei> I was wondering if anyone would be able to assist me with recovering of a hdd, a friend told me to run a live cd but didnt explain much in the way of programs for recovering it
[20:11] <LABcrab> ActionParsnip: It should be automatic!
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> Shimotsukei: try mounting it in liveCD, it may just be readable. tell your 'friend' to get a backup and they won't have an issue
[20:12] <zeleftikam> ActionParsnip, i don't think i've ever had a problem caused by "scrambled data" in a disk image download that burned and installed just fine but didn't work in some small way later. that doesn't make much sense but i guess it's possible
[20:12] <moegreen> does anybody else have an issue with a wireless keyboard not being able to f3 into a tty?
[20:12] <zykotick9> jerry_, sorry, I have no idea what Pinguy is.  Your best bet would be to backup your files and do a fresh install - and next time DON'T mix distro or version repositories!
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> LABcrab: it is if you use unetbootin to download the ISO and create live USB. Torrents also autocheck stuff too
[20:12] <zeleftikam> ActionParsnip, i think from here i have a couple options, i could clean reinstall, this time installing ssh so i can connect to it and change the setting, or install 10.04 and live with that
[20:12] <vlt> ActionParsnip: LOL 'friend'
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> zeleftikam: I can give you examples of people having bad data if you want
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> vlt: ;)
[20:12] <LABcrab> Hello!  How do i write a fraction that says one-tenth in Ubuntu?  Here: ¼ ½ ¾
[20:13] <vlt> Shimotsukei: When the hard disk has phaysical errors, I'd advise making a clone copy of it first before mounting anything.
[20:13] <Shimotsukei> im havin the issue, my friend's the one who told me to use the live cd....It's displaying the whole drive as unallocated
[20:13] <jerry_> Zykotick  Thanks  That is what I will do.  I don't know where all the mint stuff comes from.  PINGUY is a Ubuntu based Distro
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> zeleftikam: if you are installing server then lucid server is supported longer
[20:13] <zeleftikam> LABcrab, check if such a character exists in the UTF-8 character set
[20:13] <zeleftikam> ActionParsnip, yeah. i am doing a clean install to sell this machine, anyway
[20:13] <zeleftikam> it just needs to turn on properly to be sold :)
[20:14] <LABcrab> zeleftikam: Where is that?
[20:14] <zeleftikam> LABcrab, http://www.utf8-chartable.de/
[20:14] <LABcrab> zeleftikam: i get a nice box with four characters instead of my 1/10.
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> zeleftikam: that's fine, if you use lucid then the server will be supported longer than if you use natty server
[20:15] <vlt> Shimotsukei: I'd do the following: Boot a live CD (ubuntu or even better: something like grml.org), run ddrescue to another device (external hd, for example), then try to mount any file systems on the image or run tools like testdisk to recover some files ...
[20:15] <LABcrab> U+2152
[20:15] <zeleftikam> LABcrab, hmm yeah, my Mac OS X machine won't display that character either
[20:16] <Shimotsukei> testdisk didnt detect it.
[20:16] <zeleftikam> 1/3, 2/3 etc works fine, but U+2150 through 52 are boxes
[20:16] <vlt> Shimotsukei: Detect what?
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> Shimotsukei: could just use foremost on the damaged drive to possibly recover data
[20:16] <jerry_> Thanks for the Help guys .. I think I am going to do a backup without the bad files and then do a clean install
[20:16] <flametai1> urlin2u, http://pastebin.com/7V0b1XaU
[20:16] <greenit> SIFTU, well, same as with the other xorg.conf
[20:16] <Shimotsukei> foremost?
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> Shimotsukei: does:   sudo fdisk -l     show the device?
[20:16] <zeleftikam> LABcrab, i would guess that it's not a very widely supported character, can you avoid using it?
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> Shimotsukei: yes,foremost
[20:16] <zeleftikam> LABcrab, maybe try some different fonts?
[20:17] <tjiggi_fo> LABcrab, do you have a Compose Key set?
[20:17] <LABcrab> zeleftikam: Maybe.
[20:17] <Shimotsukei> yes it lists the drive
[20:17] <flametai1> urlin2u, Seems like everything is normal????
[20:17] <zeleftikam> LABcrab, i've never seen the 1/10 character on a computer screen in my life
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> Shimotsukei: then use foremost
[20:18] <Shimotsukei> but it doesnt display any of the partition
[20:18] <Shimotsukei> ok
[20:18] <guntbert> Shimotsukei: there is also a program called photorec to recover files from bad partitions
[20:18] <LABcrab> zeleftikam: What about ¹/₁₀?
[20:18] <tjiggi_fo> zeleftikam, ¹/₁₀
[20:18] <tjiggi_fo> snap
[20:18] <zeleftikam> tjiggi_fo, is that one character?
[20:18] <LABcrab> zeleftikam: Not it's three.
[20:18] <LABcrab> Or four.
[20:19] <zeleftikam> that's what i thought
[20:19] <tjiggi_fo> zeleftikam, no, it's using the compose key
[20:19] <zeleftikam> ActionParsnip, thanks for all the info and guidance. downloading 10.04 LTS now, that will probably be fine, the display worked fine with it before
[20:19] <zeleftikam> tjiggi_fo, ah
[20:19] <MetallicMonk_> Anyone here?
[20:19] <urlin2u> flametai1, that is the strangest script I have seen, is it a wubi, or did you post all of the text.
[20:20] <zeleftikam> ActionParsnip, good time to be getting rid of this HP if native support for the GPU is screwed up in new releases ;)
[20:20] <flametai1> urlin2u, posted all of the text, and no Wubi installer. It is an install from a LiveCD
[20:20] <MetallicMonk_> Anyone in the mood to help a noob? Lol
[20:21] <zeleftikam> MetallicMonk_, we'll try, ask your question
[20:21] <urlin2u> flametai1, I stumped on this one.
[20:21] <Shimotsukei> um do you have a link for foremost? or would photorec work better?
[20:21] <flametai1> I am too urlin2u, it makes no sense, it was working fine last night.
[20:21] <MetallicMonk_> Having issues with emerald, won't impliment a theme. I tried the "emerald --replace &" command that i found on forums, but it came to no avail.
[20:21] <flametai1> I suppose back to the drawing board.
[20:22] <z3r0c0d3> T
[20:22] <zykotick9> !emerald | MetallicMonk_ just for your info BUT
[20:22] <beilby> Ubuntu 11.04, have installed  Miro this has taken the default application for .torrent files, Transmission is no longer in the list, I would like to make Transmission the default application for opening .torrent files. How do I do this please?
[20:22] <MetallicMonk_> Oh, okay. Any good alternatives?
[20:23] <zykotick9> MetallicMonk_, "...There are no known, supported alternatives."
[20:23] <zeleftikam> beilby, try this
[20:23] <zeleftikam> http://linux.about.com/od/ubuntu_doc/a/ubudg10t10.htm
[20:23] <MetallicMonk_> Well, i mean, theme wise. Any other way to put themes onto kubuntu?
[20:23] <zeleftikam> beilby, this may also be helpful: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/files-open.html
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> beilby: right click a torrent file, select 'open with' then select transmission and click to remember the association
[20:25] <beilby> yes, Transmission is not in the list unfortunately and I cannot determine where to find it in the file system
[20:25] <zeleftikam> beilby, maybe try uninstalling and reinstalling Transmission from the package manager thing
[20:25] <Glycan__> I'm fixing a box for a freind of mine, his wifi doesn't work
[20:26] <Shimotsukei> i don't quite see how to install foremost >.<
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> Shimotsukei: same as any other app you can name
[20:26] <Glycan__> Sorry
[20:27] <Citizenwarrior> I have file.txt, I want to chmos it to read only for everyone, right now it is -rwxrwxrwx therefore I have tried sudo chmod 444 file.txt and nothing changes... What am I over looking?
[20:27] <MetallicMonk_> I'll take that as a no, thanks though!
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> Citizenwarrior: who is the owner?
[20:27] <Citizenwarrior> me
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> MetallicMonk_: well done you waited 4 minutes before giving up
[20:28] <beilby> OK, have done this, it is still not in the list
[20:28] <MetallicMonk_> Haha, well, you guys seem busy, and i have google.
[20:28] <Glycan__> I need to fix wifi for my freind
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> MetallicMonk_: try waiting a little longer, or ask later
[20:28] <Citizenwarrior> ActionParsnip I created it and moved it and I am trying to chmod it all from the same session, nothing has changed
[20:28] <MetallicMonk_> Okay
[20:28] <Shimotsukei> hmm...failed to install
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> MetallicMonk_: emerald is not maintained anymore. It is not suggested to be used at all
[20:28] <zykotick9> Citizenwarrior, is the file on a FAT/NTFS partition?
[20:28] <Citizenwarrior> yes
[20:28] <[0xDEAD]> anyone know how I get the indicator-mutliload to show up in the top panel in unity?  I've added the ppa and installed it using apt-get but I'm still trying to figure out how to get it to show up.
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> Citizenwarrior: doesn't answer my question
[20:29] <zykotick9> Citizenwarrior, that's why you can't change permission then
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: nice catch
[20:29] <guntbert> urlin2u: about that boot info script: line 1888 contains a reference to the embedded menu, might be there was an error in creating that
[20:29] <MetallicMonk_> I've established that, question is, is there any way to put themes onto kubuntu then?
[20:29] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip, boom ;)
[20:29] <mohamed> hii
[20:29] <Citizenwarrior> zykotick9 ok if i move it to a ext3 can i change it then
[20:29] <zykotick9> Citizenwarrior, of course
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> MetallicMonk_: there are theme sites around, you can apply them using the theme manager. Its about 3 years dead now
[20:29] <Citizenwarrior> zykotick9  and then move it back
[20:30] <zykotick9> Citizenwarrior, move it back = lose all permission
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> MetallicMonk_: probably has some nasty bugs and securityholes
[20:30] <rww> Citizenwarrior: no. NTFS does not deal with UNIX permissions.
[20:30] <MetallicMonk_> Lol, so should i just say forget kubuntu, and go to ubuntu?
[20:30] <swb> hello
[20:30] <Citizenwarrior> zykotick9 rww thanks for your time
[20:31] <urlin2u> guntbert, could be I saw that.
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> MetallicMonk_: whichever you like, could try it. Both are fine, depends which apps you use more
[20:32] <beilby> Ubuntu 11.04, have installed Miro this has taken the default application for .torrent files, Transmission is no longer in the list, I would like to make Transmission the default application for opening .torrent files. How do I do this please? have tried removing app & installing again to no avail. Not sure where to point to in file sytem when choosing other...
[20:32] <tarfart> hi
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> beilby: did my suggestion work?
[20:33] <tarfart> !nvidia
[20:33] <Shimotsukei> so i tried stuff with testdisk but it
[20:33] <urlin2u> guntbert, so much is missing from the script, I would not know where to start, usualy it is a single partition error.
[20:34] <Shimotsukei> 's not detecting my hdd at all
[20:34] <beilby> actionparsnip transmission is not in the list
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> beilby: itshould list ALL apps, like in the menus and you can navigate, or you can type: /usr/bin/transmission  as the command
[20:35] <zykotick9> beilby, use the "add" button to add transmission
[20:35] <vlt> Shimotsukei: Again, the device is shown by "fdisk -l"?
[20:35] <Shimotsukei> yeah actually i just got it to show up
[20:36] <vlt> Shimotsukei: What does "blkid <device>" look like?
[20:36] <Shimotsukei> testdisk found the partitions
[20:36] <guntbert> urlin2u: the bootinfo script ended prematurely due to ${offset_menu%:*} being empty..., but I won't bother you further with that :-))
[20:37] <vooze> anyone know if its possbile to make it, so when a program is running, and i click on the icon on launcher, it minimises, like all docks? :D
[20:37] <Shimotsukei> blkid <device>?
[20:37] <mongy> vooze, thats on my wishlist too
[20:37] <Shimotsukei> sorry im really new to this ><
[20:37] <vooze> i dont understand why they did not start with that mongy :/ should be logic
[20:38] <mongy> to me and you it is, anyway
[20:38] <vlt> Shimotsukei: Replace <device> with the actual device name, without the <> brackets.
[20:38] <E3D3> I just discovered (beside Amazon in Banshee) that the default repository has commercial software. I'm sorry to tell but I'm definitly out of Ubuntu & prefer its derivates that don't beg for money. What a huge disappointment for me after all those years. Still wish those with a non-commercial Ubuntu-spirit all the best & thanks for the wonderfull years.
[20:38] <MetallicMonk_> Grr, linux is challenging. Lets say i want to change my bootsplash, and i have the directions here, but i'm missing a needed .txt and a folder. Will those be in a different location since i'm dual booting?
[20:39] <Shimotsukei> in terminal or ? ><
[20:39] <jamesw> Help please, my Gobi mobile broadband card was working great on 11.04 x64 install, stopped working after I did updates
[20:40] <vlt> Shimotsukei: The same terminal you ran "fdisk -l" in. o_O
[20:40] <Shimotsukei> oh
[20:40] <vlt> E3D3: Can you give an example? I'm interested what's happening there.
[20:41] <vooze> mongy: found this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349 ;)
[20:41] <urlin2u> guntbert, I'm glad you understand that, I under the script in some depth, but I have my limitations on errors. ;)
[20:41] <funkster> Does anyone know of a comptaible touch screen monitor for ubuntu? Googling is giving very mixed results.
[20:41] <beilby> 	
[20:41] <beilby> ActionParsnip 	/usr/bin/transmission-gtk worked thanks
[20:41] <Shimotsukei> nothing's happening
[20:41] <urlin2u> time to install 11.10 see you all on the other side
[20:42] <mongy> guntbert is the man :)
[20:42] <beilby> /usr/bin/transmission-gtk worked thanks all
[20:42] <E3D3> vlt: I just looked around in the Software center & suddenly saw buy with a price.
[20:42] <vlt> !who | Shimotsukei
[20:42] <mongy> E3D3, and?  dont buy it then.
[20:42] <Shimotsukei> oh sorry
[20:42] <mang0> G'night all!
[20:43] <UukGoblin> hi there, I'm trying to use a bluetooth headset, following instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothHeadset (I have ubuntu 11.04) - I've paired up with my headset, but it doesn't show up in sound preferences, the only device I have there is my integrated sound card :-(
[20:43] <vlt> Shimotsukei: If blkid doesn't find anything then no valid file system (header) was found on the disk.
[20:43] <E3D3> mongy: I know but I have chosen to stay away from those who try, specially in my private business.
[20:43] <guntbert> mongy: ??
[20:44] <Shimotsukei> vlt:  i think i failed at trying to run it >.>
[20:44] <G00053> Shimotsukei: try sudo blkid
[20:44] <mongy> guntbert, your eye for script errors....
[20:44] <Shimotsukei> ah
[20:44] <funkster> Does anyone know of a comptaible touch screen monitor for ubuntu? Googling is giving very mixed results.
[20:44] <Shimotsukei> vlt yeah it doesnt show up
[20:45] <mongy> E3D3, I think you make a big deal of it where there is none to be made.  your choice of course.
[20:45] <Shimotsukei> vlt:  is there a way to fix that?
[20:45] <vooze> mongy: solution here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/36433/why-cant-i-use-the-unity-launcher-icon-to-minimize-applications-windows
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> !hcl |  funkster
[20:45] <jamesw> hello, I have a new dell xps my Gobi mobile broadband card was working great on 11.04 x64 install before updates, stopped working after I did updates, anyone have any ideas please?
[20:46] <guntbert> mongy: nothing special, usually i supect the last line of output from an aborted script to contain a hint to the error,....
[20:47] <mongy> vooze, nice one
[20:47] <vooze> mongy: setting up script now ;) and saving guide :D
[20:47] <vlt> Shimotsukei: I don't know whether there are tools that are able to restore file system (tables, headers or whatever). But I know that tools like testdisk and foremost will try to find anythink that looks like data files on the disk.
[20:48] <jamesw> ty for making guide vooze!
[20:48] <mongy> Im a +1 that
[20:48] <vlt> Shimotsukei: *anything
[20:48] <vooze> jamesw: was not really me ;) but your welcome for posting
[20:48] <mongy> damnit, my beautify g+ extension doesnt work right, so no +1 for any site yet.
[20:48] <Shimotsukei> vlt:  well my files are all there, now i need to figure out how to get them
[20:49] <vlt> Shimotsukei: Where are they?
[20:49] <Shimotsukei> well testdisk is seeing there is still data on them
[20:51] <yakster> hello all…
[20:51] <Shimotsukei> vlt:  is there a way to move the data off?
[20:51] <yakster> wondering if someone can help me out with a display issue….
[20:51] <E3D3> mongy: Its just that I'm used to a clean, non-commercial atmosphere. For that I have add-blockers on my web-browsers. Its scary that I now have to block parts of my personal assistant (OS). It just a matter of shifted intentions & trust. I don't want to have an shopping-mall as OS & I like to choose. I just think Ubuntu has sold it Ubuntu-soul & I don't want to be associated with that.
[20:51] <yakster> how can I make the external monitor on my laptop be primary?
[20:52] <vlt> Shimotsukei: There must be a testdisk option to tell it where to save the restored files.
[20:52] <mongy> E3D3, can of worms, open, there is... nevermind then
[20:53] <guntbert> !ot | E3D3
[20:53] <vlt> guntbert: ?
[20:53] <E3D3> mongy: Sorry to bother, I won't do it any more, Still thanks for the reply & good luck with your choices.
[20:53] <yakster> anyone? I know its xorg, but my google-foo is off today…
[20:54] <guntbert> vlt: ?
[20:54] <yakster> how can I set laptop primary display external vga
[20:54] <undecim> What's the simplest IRC server to setup?
[20:55] <guntbert> undecim: thats not really an ubuntu support question, is it?
[20:55] <UukGoblin> I'm quite confused when it comes to finding documentation for bluetooth :-( bluez's wiki is down, ubuntu's wiki stuff is sparse / out of date :-S
[20:56] <undecim> guntbert: well, assuming I want to stick with the ubuntu repos...
[20:57] <Shimotsukei> vlt:  trying to find it
[20:58] <guntbert> undecim: I'm not aware of an irc server being in the repos - but ....
[20:58] <pscmonkies> hey need some help. I have ubuntu running with windows and when i log into ubuntu, i can't access any programs in ubuntu.
[20:58] <jamesw> I have a new dell xps my Gobi mobile broadband card was working great on 11.04 x64 install before updates, stopped working after I did updates, anyone have any ideas please?
[20:59] <yakster> anyone know how to set the external display as primary display?
[21:00] <zykotick9> undecim, have you looked through "apt-cache search ircd"?
[21:02] <yakster> I guess none wants to help…. I see how it is… jk… PLEASE somone
[21:02] <alex--> I disabled the Unity plugin in compiz. How can I switch back to gnome now? (because interface is messed up now)
[21:05] <StayInSkool> hmm who was I talking to earlier about the trackpads
[21:05] <StayInSkool> gentoo_someone and someone else
[21:05] <StayInSkool> gentoo_intel
[21:05] <zykotick9> yakster, if you use nvidia it's easy, open nvidia-settings and there is a checkbox or something.  If you use another GFX card, I have no idea.
[21:05] <[0xDEAD]> anyone know how I get the indicator-mutliload to show up in the top panel in unity?  I've added the ppa and installed it using apt-get but I'm still trying to figure out how to get it to show up.
[21:06] <yakster> ok, I am using server, so no desktop manager, its an XBMC machine….
[21:06] <alex--> I disabled the Unity plugin in compiz. How can I switch back to gnome now? (because interface is messed up now)
[21:06] <StayInSkool> anyway, turns out it was an issue with ASUS G73JW's crappy bios
[21:06] <StayInSkool> and update solves the shaky erratic cursor behaviour and keyboard skipping keys
[21:06] <StayInSkool> just wanted to say thanks
[21:07] <yakster> so, manual editing is about it….
[21:08] <alex--> What's the difference between Ubuntu 10.04 and 11.04?
[21:09] <zykotick9> alex--, 10.04 is LTS, a year appart, 11.04 uses Unity
[21:09] <yakster> so…..
[21:10] <volga629> how to enable ekiga h264 ubuntu 10.10 ?
[21:10] <volga629> I looked on google, but where need take opal libraries
[21:11] <blabla> i'm using wubi, but the cpu load never goes below 5%
[21:11] <zXslhCl> alex--: you can do like this: system>>adminstrator>>login windows
[21:11] <blabla> is that cause it's wubi or?
[21:11] <jamesw> does anyone here know about mobile broadband? I have a new dell xps my Gobi mobile broadband card was working great on 11.04 x64 install before updates, stopped working after I did updates, anyone have any ideas please?
[21:12] <Kingsy_> if I have enabled my vnc server in system -> prefs -> remote desktop  how do I connect to that from another machine?  vnc local.ip ?
[21:12] <alex--> zXslhCl: what do you mean?
[21:12] <Kingsy_> heh total guess
[21:12] <alex--> zykotick9: More differences?:P
[21:12] <zykotick9> jamesw, do you get a grub menu on boot with an old kernel?  I'd try the old kernel if it's there.
[21:12] <zykotick9> alex--, all the packages will be different versions...
[21:12] <jamesw> ty i  will try that
[21:13] <jamesw> zykotick9: ^
[21:13] <volga629> <Kingsy_: ifconfig -a look for interface ip  and to connect ip:1
[21:13] <zXslhCl> alex--:change you login ""gnome classic"
[21:13] <uminvincible> I am using Ubuntu 11.04 on my Toshiba Laptop. The Bluetooth Bug has affected me as well. Sudo service bluetooth restart or killall bluetoothd , sudo bluetoothd is not working for me. This is one such fortunate time when my bluetooth is working. But if I restart it, It will stop working. Can you please suggest me any workarounds as I have only this one source of using Internet using DUN on Ubuntu.
[21:14] <alex--> zXslhCl: how can I access compiz config?
[21:14] <volga629> Kingsy_: 1 ---> it is monitor from xorg
[21:14] <alex--> fixed
[21:14] <alex--> nvm
[21:14] <volga629> 0 is default which are we using
[21:14] <alex--> :P
[21:14] <Kingsy_> volga629: hmm what do you mean?
[21:14] <Kingsy_> volga629: so the local ip is say 192.169.0.30 (I am connecting locally)
[21:15] <alex--> Why isn't alt + printscreen + k working anymore? :(
[21:15] <Kingsy_> 192.168.0.30:1  <-- just that on the client console obviously wouldnt work
[21:15] <zXslhCl> alex--:do you have installed it?
[21:15] <jamesw> does anyone know the canonical mumble server?
[21:16] <alex--> zXslhCl: i dont know, it worked in 10.04 and 10.10
[21:16] <Kingsy_> volga629: something like --> vnc 192.169.0.30:1 ?
[21:16] <volga629> Kingsy_:  Install vnc viewer on machine from which you want to connect. If you connecting local inside network you can use 192. address if it is across internet you have to use wan ip and port forward
[21:16] <rww> jamesw: yes. it's not public, iirc
[21:17] <Kingsy_> volga629: np
[21:18] <zXslhCl> alex--:oha,you can search in "Ubuntu one"
[21:18] <volga629> Kingsy_: vnc server use port 5900 == 0 monitor and so on 5901 == 1
[21:19] <volga629> how to enable ekiga h264 ubuntu 10.10 ?
[21:19] <alex--> zXslhCl: oha?
[21:20] <volga629> I looked on google, but where need take opal libraries
[21:20] <Arutha^^> I'm in the following situation : my mdadm array keeps saying it needs to be rechecked.  I comment it out of fstab (because I can't unmount it while the machine is up for some reason), reboot, fsck it (it says it modified stuff), then reboot again with it mounting.  However, as soon as it mounts back up, it complains about free block count being wrong.  My guess is a drive is slowly going out (smart on one drive
[21:20] <Arutha^^>  has huge read error rates), but I'm just making sure I'm right..
[21:20] <erfolg> Arutha^^, bad drive
[21:21] <Kingsy_> volga629: it said "unable to connect to vnc server"
[21:22] <Arutha^^> erfolg, yep, kind of what I figured... I may try to limp it along until I have a bit more cash; I have dreams of setting up a freenas box just for grins :)
[21:22] <erfolg> Arutha^^, yeah just make backups if you can and run it until it quits
[21:23] <Arutha^^> Yeah... The "bad" drive is still passing smart tests, at least.
[21:23] <erfolg> Arutha^^, that's good
[21:23] <volga629> Kingsy_: try check if vnc running open terminal: lsof +iTCP and see if have listener 590* tcp
[21:24] <Kingsy_> volga629: yup vino-serv 2821 chris   18r  IPv6  23359      0t0  TCP *:5900 (LISTEN)
[21:24] <Kingsy_> ahhh I got it
[21:24] <sshtrk> is it good idea to install unity 2d in kubuntu?
[21:24] <Kingsy_> thanks
[21:24] <jamesw> volume indicator: can i make it vertical again?
[21:25] <jamesw> vol slider control from gnome panel  i should say
[21:25] <volga629> Kingsy_: good
[21:25] <Kingsy_> volga629: thanks for the help
[21:25] <Arutha^^> Actaully, that reminds of something else... does anyone know if x11vnc changed recently?  I don't know when it started, but x11vnc -display :0 ends up putting the vnc session on 5901, not 5900
[21:25] <urlin2u> jamesw, I doubt it.
[21:26] <SIFTU> Arutha^^: is 5900 being used by something else.. goes on 5900 for me
[21:26] <Kingsy_> brb
[21:26] <jamesw> it is impossible to make the volume slider back to vertical instead of the new horizontal?
[21:27] <Arutha^^> SIFTU: netstat -l doesn't show anythign else on 5900
[21:27] <savid> Does anyone know how to fix this issue in google chrome?  http://i.imgur.com/SW9YO.png    < there are three selected items, but the hilight color is too similar to the background color to easily tell
[21:27] <Arutha^^> SIFTU: oof, I take that back... I'm lysdexic, apparently
[21:28] <Kingsy_> volga629: is it possible to get the vino server running BEFORE the user has logged in? so I can log in through the vnc server?
[21:28] <SIFTU> Arutha^^: lol
[21:29] <Viking667> I've got something slightly weird with fonts inside text windows (gedit, gvim). It is all printing out like it's representing UTF-16 (i.e. with signigficant gaps between characters). What should I be looking at?
[21:29] <Viking667> My locale is en_NZ.UTF-8
[21:29] <^lars^> hi larsduesing
[21:29] <Arutha^^> SIFTU : looks like kvm has decided it really needs localhost:5900
[21:29] <nickles> Is it possible to schedule snapraid to do a sync periodically?
[21:30] <Viking667> Ah, I seem to have corrected one thing at least.
[21:30] <volga629> Kingsy_: you mean start vnc server on boot ?
[21:30] <Arutha^^> which is odd, as I remember telling it that I didn't want it to set up vnc sessions.. My guess is some sort of update changed that.
[21:30] <Kingsy_> volga629: yeah sorry
[21:31] <jamesw> does anyone know a fix for me having to press reboot or shutdown twice? (dell xps)
[21:31] <Viking667> now there's only gvim to go.
[21:32] <volga629> Kingsy_: Check first if you have start up script fo vnc server /etc/init.d/
[21:32] <uminvincible> Hi I am sorry If I am putting this question back again, But I really do want a solution and I am a newbie to Ubuntu. "I am using Ubuntu 11.04 on my Toshiba Laptop. The Bluetooth Bug has affected me as well. Sudo service bluetooth restart or killall bluetoothd , sudo bluetoothd is not working for me. This is one such fortunate time when my bluetooth is working. But if I restart it, It will stop working. Can you please suggest me any workarounds as I
[21:32] <uminvincible>  have only this one source of using Internet using DUN on Ubuntu."
[21:33] <Kingsy_> volga629: no I don't think so, just checked and I couldnt see it
[21:33] <volga629> Kingsy_: to update start up try: sudo update-rc.d vncserver defaults
[21:34] <Kingsy_> volga629: update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/vncserver: file does not exist
[21:34] <volga629> <Kingsy_: let me see if I can find start up script for you
[21:35] <Kingsy_> coool
[21:38] <volga629> Kingsy_: grab http://pastebin.com/km6UZ2Bq
[21:39] <Kingsy_> volga629: ok .. what file does that go in?
[21:39] <uminvincible> volga629: Hi, Would it be fine If I ask for your help regarding my bluetooth problem
[21:40] <volga629> Kingsy_: copy create new file in /etc/init.d/vncserver and need adjust line USER=""  to user which you running vnc
[21:40] <volga629> <uminvincible: let try
[21:40] <adante> hi
[21:40] <Viking667> hm. I seem to have an issue when I try to use Sans for a font to render text with...
[21:40] <adante> i issued an unmount command to a twotb disk about 20 minutes ago, it has not finished yet
[21:41] <adante> is there a way i can find out what it is doing?
[21:41] <adante> i'd really like to unmount out
[21:41] <uminvincible> volga629: Thank you very much. I am affected by bluetooth bug and the icon in the tray menu is greyed out...
[21:41] <Kingsy_> volga629: ok done.. so should I just reboot?
[21:41] <uminvincible> volga629: I have tried using service bluetooth restart
[21:41] <uminvincible> but that does not work
[21:42] <volga629> Kingsy_: after you finish adjust parameters doing sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/vncsever and after adjust the rc.d
[21:42] <uminvincible> I tried other solutions accept the one that stated that I have to downgrade the Bluez package to Maverick
[21:42] <uminvincible> But I do not know how to do that...
[21:43] <owen1> i have ubuntu on mac. i can paste using a mouse but would like to do it with the touchpad(three fingers) or the keys. any tips?
[21:43] <Kingsy_> volga629: ok done that.. now reboot?
[21:43] <Kingsy_> volga629: what do you mean by adjust rc.d ?
[21:44] <volga629> uminvincible: try remove bluez and use the gnome one
[21:44] <volga629> <Kingsy_: update-rc.d vncserver defaults
[21:44] <uminvincible> volga629: Ok... I would remove Bluez and install gnome-bluetooth. Correct?
[21:45] <Kingsy_> volga629: ok done.. now just reboot?
[21:45] <volga629> uminvincible: yes I am using gnome one with my blackberry internet
[21:45] <volga629> Kingsy_: try reboot and see
[21:46] <Kingsy_> coool thanks for that
[21:46] <Kingsy_> brb
[21:46] <uminvincible> volga629: Ok perfect. I am just updating the system. I would remove Bluez and install the Gnome Bluetooth and if it works, I would be able to use internet and come here and let you know the updates...
[21:47] <Kingsy> volga629: nope that didnt work.. it just said "connection refused"
[21:48] <volga629> uminvincible: try check through apt-cache policy gnome-blu* command and see what is available
[21:48] <volga629> Kingsy_: can you see if this machine come up ?
[21:48] <volga629> and vnc running ?
[21:48] <Kingsy> volga629: what do you mean?
[21:48] <pauloricardoas> hey i  need help
[21:49] <pauloricardoas> my webcam dont work  with amsn
[21:49] <pauloricardoas> its bug?
[21:49] <ern3570> hey
[21:49] <pauloricardoas> my webcam dont work  with amsn its bug?
[21:49] <[0xDEAD]> anyone know how I get the indicator-mutliload to show up in the top panel in unity?  I've added the ppa and installed it using apt-get but I'm still trying to figure out how to get it to show up.
[21:49] <volga629> Kingsy: vino server is running ? and /etc/init.d/vncserver status
[21:49] <Kingsy> volga629: how can I check if vnc is running before I am logged in?
[21:50] <ern3570> somebody knows a chanel where anybody can help me with rubyonrails
[21:50] <ern3570> ??
[21:50] <Kingsy> volga629: /etc/init.d/vncserver status returns nothing after I log in
[21:50] <volga629> Kingsy: is not real way to check it, but if it service starts properly it should be listener 5900 port
[21:50] <gentoo-intel> ern3570, #rubyonrails
[21:51] <gentoo-intel> or was you joking
[21:51] <ern3570> thanks gentoo-intel
[21:51] <quem> is it normal for metacity to use 650mb ram?
[21:51] <quem> :)
[21:51] <volga629> <Kingsy: /etc/init.d/vncserver start
[21:51] <volga629> Kingsy: what you see
[21:52] <Kingsy> volga629: bash - /usr/bin/vncserver no such file or dir
[21:53] <volga629> Kingsy: just need adjust vncserver script accordingly you setup of vnc
[21:53] <Kingsy> volga629: well where is in the binary for vino?
[21:53] <uminvincible> volga629: It says that a number of packages are installed. I am trying to put the contents on the pastebin....
[21:53] <uminvincible> volga629: I will just update you as soon as it is done
[21:53] <volga629> ok
[21:54] <volga629> <Kingsy: sudo which vncserver
[21:54] <Kingsy> volga629: that returns nothing
[21:54] <manbra> Hey, I'm trying to format an original xbox hard drive.  The disk utility that comes with linux is getting an error.  What other apps should I try?
[21:54] <uminvincible> Gnome Bluetooth, lib-gnome bluetooth8, libgnome-bluetooth-dev, libgnome-bluetooth-dev, gnome-blog are installed among them
[21:55] <usr13> manbra: What disk utility?
[21:55] <manbra> It's just called 'Disk Utility', its the default one with 11.04
[21:55] <Kingsy> volga629: according to lsof its called vino-serv but sudo which vino-server returns nothing aswell
[21:56] <aychedee> @manbra You could try dd, totally zero out the disk. Then see if anything else works
[21:56] <volga629> <Kingsy\: let check where is installed
[21:56] <usr13> manbra: Exactly what are you trying to do?  What type of file system are you wanting to put on it?
[21:56] <Kingsy> volga629: np
[21:56] <manbra> usr13, what ever ubuntu's default is.
[21:56] <usr13> manbra: Which drive is it?  sudo fdisk -l
[21:57] <volga629> Kingsy: try look in this directory /usr/lib/vino
[21:57] <manbra> Er, before I do that, how the f do I turn off the new GUI?  I'm running off a usb drive now and I don't have the option to log off and select a new one there
[21:57] <manbra> I have no idea how to bring up terminal w/ the new gui
[21:58] <Kingsy> volga629: ah yep there is a vino-server in there
[21:58] <Kingsy> volga629: how did you find that?
[21:58] <usr13> manbra: Well it would be:   sudo  mkfs.ext4 /dev/s??#
[21:58] <usr13> manbra: Alt-F2 gnome-terminal
[21:58] <ern3570> anybody knows dev on ruby???
[21:59] <ern3570> that can help me
[21:59] <ern3570> ???
[21:59] <manbra> Thank you, usr13
[21:59] <volga629> Kingsy: you should have executable vino-server there try adjust init.d script
[22:00] <meowsus> I'm trying to figure out the zip command a bit more. If i'm in ~/Desktop and i run [zip -r test.zip ../Dropbox/Some_Directory/*] why is there a "..", "Dropbox", and "Some_Directory" folder in my zip file? Is there a way to just zip those files inside the desired directory?
[22:00] <uminvincible> volga629: My net today is bit slow. Please hold... I am updating you...
[22:00] <volga629> Kingsy: just doing find /usr -name vino-*
[22:00] <quem> god damn. switched from metacity to openbox...... bliss. 4mb ram footprint instead of 650mb.
[22:00] <Kingsy> volga629: ok just done that.. it still doesnt start tho.. it says
[22:00] <ern3570> i have a problem with my ubuntu dist
[22:01] <Kingsy> volga629: Cannot open display: run vino-server --help to see a full list of available commands
[22:01] <volga629> <uminvincible: gnome-bletooth-2.32.0-0ubuntu1 look for this version
[22:02] <ern3570> i got a problem with my ubuntu dist.........when my laptop works on battery this shit be freeze
[22:02] <volga629> Kingsy: hold sec I am looking hot to start properly
[22:03] <manbra> usr13, sudo fdisk -l does not show the harddrive
[22:03] <manbra> But the harddrive is there in disk utility
[22:03] <usr13> netmind: cd ; zip -r Some_Directory.zip Desktop/Some_Directory/
[22:03] <Kingsy> volga629: np
[22:03] <manbra> sudo fdisk -l only shows the USB drive
[22:04] <usr13> martian_: If you don't see it in the output of  sudo fdisk -l   you will not be able to format it.
[22:04] <uminvincible> volga629: Please find the output here at: http://pastebin.com/HYyBgRf7
[22:04] <usr13> manbra: If you don't see it in the output of  sudo fdisk -l   you will not be able to format it.
[22:04] <meowsus> usr13, was that directed at me?
[22:05] <manbra> usr13, thanks for the help
[22:05] <usr13> meowsus: cd ; zip -r Some_Directory.zip Desktop/Some_Directory/
[22:05] <usr13> meowsus: Yes, sorry, just woke up.
[22:06] <volga629> uminvincible: I see you gnome-bluetooth installed ?
[22:07] <usr13> meowsus: If you put the * at the end, it will get the files, without the * at the end it will keep them with Some_Directory/
[22:07] <uminvincible> volga629: No, the Upgrade packages in Synaptics is still working.
[22:07] <uminvincible> So it should have already been pre installed.
[22:08] <usr13> meowsus: See:  man zip
[22:08] <meowsus> usr13, no problem. So the "cd ;" part will keep it from putting all of the subdirectories in it
[22:08] <pauloricardoas> hey have program for vnc linux?
[22:08] <volga629> <uminvincible: is service starts properly?
[22:08] <uminvincible> volga629: Actually, this has been a bug that always shows the bluetooth icon greyed out.
[22:08] <aeon-ltd> !vnc | pauloricardoas
[22:08] <volga629> Kingsy: why you stick using vino ?
[22:08] <uminvincible> Even on enabling it, it does not get enabled...
[22:09] <Kingsy> volga629: because it was already installed
[22:09] <aeon-ltd> pauloricardoas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Clients https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers
[22:09] <pauloricardoas> ubottu,  thabkssss
[22:09] <pauloricardoas> thankss people
[22:10] <Kingsy> volga629: no idea how to start it?
[22:11] <volga629> Kingsy: vino server it will start only with gnome session start not before to start independently you need xvnc it vnc4server
[22:11] <usr13> meowsus: No.  The cd part will put you back in /home/meowsus and that is where Some_Directory.zip will be saved, otherwize Some_Directory.zip will be stored on ~/Desktop or where ever it was.  I was not clear on where you were because you said you were in ~/Desktop and yet your command was to run zip on ../Dropbox/Some_Directory/*  So it was the only way I could figure out how to show you a command that would work.
[22:12] <Kingsy> volga629: ah ok .. which is better?
[22:12] <volga629> Kingsy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9244160&postcount=605
[22:12] <Viking667> ... in that case (Sans font) I suspect even emacs has the same problem.
[22:12] <Sonarpulse> I have a question about using qemu with a real (windows) partitionI have a question about using qemu with a real (windows) partition
[22:12] <Sonarpulse> I'm using Ubuntu 11.04
[22:12] <Sonarpulse> found some instructions here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/QEMU#Using_any_real_partition_as_the_single_primary_partition_of_a_hard_disk_image
[22:12] <Sonarpulse> Basically the instructions say:
[22:12] <FloodBot1> Sonarpulse: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:12] <Sonarpulse> create blank raw image for MBR
[22:12] <Sonarpulse> mount soon-to-be-MBR as loopback device
[22:13] <usr13> meowsus: It is a little difficult when using hypothetical directory paths.
[22:13] <Kingsy> volga629: that looks very very complrex
[22:13] <Kingsy> complex
[22:13] <Viking667> Sonarpulse: you're pasting too many lines at once dude. Paste your content into short number of lines (i.e. write fewer and longer lines that contain what you want to say)
[22:13] <volga629> <Kingsy: If you want we can try use vnc4server
[22:13] <dominicdinada> where is the config stored in phpmyadmin what ips are allowed to remotly access it ? i have had my ip change and all of a sudden i cant admin mysql
[22:14] <Kingsy> volga629: sure.. I will apt-get it[H
[22:14] <volga629> <Kingsy: sudo apt-get install vnc4server
[22:14] <meowsus> usr13, Sorry about that, I should have been more clear. I was actually wondering why the zip command was adding subdirectories to the zip file when I was creating it. So if i was on my Desktop and the directory i was trying to link to was, say, at ../Dropbox/Some_Directory/ then my zip file shows three directories before the files.
[22:14] <Kingsy> volga629: done
[22:14] <meowsus> So from my desktop my command would be:  zip -r test.zip ../Dropbox/Some_Directory/*
[22:15] <Kingsy> volga629: so now do I just need to change /etc/init.d/vncserver ?
[22:15] <meowsus> Inside the zip i'd get one directory called "..", one called "Dropbox", one called "Some_Directory" THEN i'd have the files inside that directory. Is there a param i can pass that will make sure that doesn't happen?
[22:15] <Viking667> Right. Can we unmute Sonarpulse now?
[22:15] <Kingsy> volga629: or can I remove that file now?
[22:16] <volga629> Kingsy: wait need first make vnc4server up and running
[22:16] <usr13> meowsus: man zip
[22:16] <meowsus> :) I'm on it
[22:16] <volga629> Kingsy: we will need anyway for startup
[22:16] <Viking667> meowsys: and you really REALLY shouldn't have a ".." entry inside your zipfile
[22:16] <Kingsy> volga629: ok, so how do I test it?
[22:17] <volga629> <Kingsy: Are log in with user which will be run vnc ?
[22:17] <meowsus> Thanks man
[22:17] <Kingsy> volga629: yup
[22:17] <Kingsy> volga629: but I want the server to be running before I am logged in
[22:17] <Kingsy> volga629: so its running from startup
[22:18] <Kingsy> so I can log in through vnc
[22:18] <Viking667> Kingsy: a question here (I've only just spotted this)
[22:18] <Viking667> How do you expect your session to be "running" before you've even logged in?
[22:18] <Kingsy> Viking667: whats up?
[22:18] <Viking667> vnc normally exports a running sessions' screen.
[22:19] <Viking667> It almost sounds like you want the VNC server to be pointed at the normal Gnome login prompt.
[22:19] <usr13> meowsus: You should  read the man file and experiment.  After reading the man file, create a directory and a subdirectory withn that directory.  cd to the diretory and copy some files into the subdirectory and paractice making a zip archive with or without the subdirectory in it.
[22:19] <Viking667> ... which will break as soon as you log in.
[22:19] <Neosano> Hello, I can't get my usb wifi adapter to work. It's "alfa network" adapter model AWUS036NHA . chipset is AR9271 atheros. When I plug it in I can see all wireless networks but could not connect :< also network manager says ATHEROS UB91C which is something wrong. help :O
[22:19] <Kingsy> Viking667: ahhh ok I see
[22:19] <volga629> Viking667: xinetd
[22:20] <Kingsy> well I was hoping to get the vnc server to be running all of time...
[22:20] <Viking667> volga629: same thing applies. If he points vnc at a gdm session, then as soon as he's entered in his name and password, the X server gets chopped off at the knees to boot a new one using the credentials, thereby breaking VNC
[22:20] <usr13> Kingsy: Jsut place the vnc server in the list of startups.
[22:21] <Dazzled> hi, is there a way to layout the top bar in Natty?
[22:21] <usr13> Kingsy: What vncserver are you using?
[22:21] <Dazzled> I want the date to be on the far right
[22:21] <Kingsy> see the goal is.. I have a wake up on lan working, so I was going to    turn the computer on with WOL, log in somehow (with ssh or vnc) then run a gnome session so I can control the GUI..
[22:21] <Kingsy> usr13: I was trying to use vino
[22:21] <Dazzled> now it's about at the 75% point
[22:21] <Viking667> I've used xdmcp before, but I wouldn't trust that outside of a local network
[22:21] <usr13> Kingsy: Sorry, I don't know about vino
[22:21] <Viking667> Kingsy: do you want to leave a session running?
[22:22] <Viking667> usr13: vino gets started on a user's login
[22:22] <Kingsy> usr13: yeah, I mean I don't need to use vino that was just the vnc server I WAS using.. I can use any
[22:22] <Neosano> Hello, I can't get my usb wifi adapter to work. It's "alfa network" adapter model AWUS036NHA . chipset is AR9271 atheros. When I plug it in I can see all wireless networks but could not connect :< also network manager says ATHEROS UB91C which is something wrong. help :O
[22:22] <usr13> Kingsy: I've only done it within an existing X session, by putting it in the user's session startup.
[22:22] <uminvincible> volga629: My Internet went down due to bluetooth
[22:23] <uminvincible> volga629: I am really sorry
[22:23] <Viking667> and vino only works within an existing X session...
[22:23] <volga629> <Viking667: xdmcp that only one option for right now
[22:23] <Viking667> ... as do most vnc servers I've seen.
[22:23]  * Viking667 agrees with volga629 
[22:23] <usr13> Viking667: Kingsy Yea, that's what I thought
[22:23] <uminvincible> volga629: Finally the Update manager installed Bluez 4.91. But I have not not restarted the system as I fear it may break my internet again....
[22:24] <Kingsy> well I am gonna run.. and do this 2morrow
[22:24] <Kingsy> thanks for the info guys.. its food for thought
[22:24] <Viking667> Kingsy: see you later.
[22:24] <uminvincible> I had also selected gnome bluetooth in thi
[22:24] <uminvincible> this
[22:24] <Kingsy> see ya laters
[22:25] <volga629> <uminvincible: try, but it is possible, but you have to use only one deamon or gnome or bluez
[22:26] <katesmith> hey i just wanted to let people know about my favorite channel , and you dont need to be autistic to go there, and there are plenty of people interested in computers and such it is called #aspietalk , it is a small channel with 70 people there , but they are very nice people , just wanted to let poeple know , i do not mean any harm at all
[22:26] <Viking667> sheesh.
[22:26] <Viking667> katesmith: while I'm possibly aspie myself, there's a general "don't advertise" policy
[22:27] <katesmith> #uokay sorry
[22:27] <Linard> hi
[22:27] <volga629> uminvincible: I am using gnome only and it is working no problem. Previously I use bluez but had issue setup modem from my blackberry
[22:27] <Viking667> katesmith: but thanks for the heads up
[22:28] <uminvincible> volga629: Ok.. So I guess I have both.... WOuld it be fine If I remove one... I do not know how to get gnome-bluetooth running once I remove Bluez....
[22:28] <volga629> uminvincible: try remove one and use only one
[22:29] <Rallias> How do I make certain files in nautilus use certain icons?
[22:29] <volga629> uminvincible: try remove bluez
[22:29] <uminvincible> volga629: Ok... I would remove Bluez Package completely and then can you please tell me how to invoke gnome bluetooth...
[22:29] <uminvincible> Ok.. Or should I research internet?
[22:30] <volga629> uminvincible: reboot and shoulb be active after login
[22:30] <volga629> should
[22:31] <volga629> uminvincible: no :-)
[22:31] <uminvincible> volga629: Ok Perfect... I would just logoff and try to log in again... If I succeed I would be logging in here again.. Thanks for the time and help you gave.. Thank you
[22:31] <uminvincible> volga629: :)
[22:31] <volga629> <uminvincible let see
[22:32] <uminvincible> Sure
[22:33] <volga629> <uminvincible: that for info read: http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-bluetooth/stable/gnome-bluetooth-applet.html.en
[22:33] <EzeQL2> hi
[22:36] <mali_> emr so does ubuntu in this natty thing, now use unity or G3?
[22:36] <Viking667> Unity, as far as I know.
[22:36] <mali_> and does G3 now allow for way more customisation?
[22:37] <Viking667> I dumped Unity after a month... I tried it, didn't really like it. Not as customisable as plain gnome with metacity.
[22:37] <fabianhjr__> I am trying to give a GPT format to an external drive, however it is refusing to work. It timeouts and this is the dmesg/df output I get regarding the error. http://pastebin.com/GVHtW8Rc
[22:37] <Viking667> i.e. the only place I could put launch applications was on the left panel, not on the top/bottom panels.
[22:38] <yakster> does anyone know how to make xorg make a laptops external display primary, by command line…
[22:38] <yakster> ???
[22:39] <Viking667> yakster: no idea, sorry.
[22:39] <yakster> yeah, I am not able to find anything on google…
[22:39] <fabianhjr__> yakster: A manual, sorry I have never done this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x-config.html
[22:40] <Polah> yakster, you'd need to edit your Xorg config file through a command line editor like vi, nano, ed or suchlike
[22:40] <yakster> yeah, I know that…
[22:40] <yakster> but what is the configuration….
[22:40] <yakster> xrandr doesn't work…
[22:40] <fabianhjr__> Regarding the formatting it is an external drive trougha USB, it works perfectly though I want to boot from it using GPT. :/
[22:40] <Viking667> uhm, of course not.
[22:40] <yakster> thing is that the display is cracked, can't see but the top left…
[22:40] <yakster> I can ssh into it though
[22:40] <volga629> xrandr --output LVDS1 --left-of VGA1
[22:41] <Neosano> yakster, have you tried arandr?
[22:41] <bluelamp> how do i get root account active in ubuntu ? i am using easypeasy . it is ubuntu based. so, i can install any ubuntu or deb package ..
[22:41] <yakster> I can FN+F8 to make it go to that desktop, but tis annoying to have to do that each time…
[22:41] <fabianhjr__> bluelamp: you can sudo and then passwd.
[22:41] <Neosano> yakster, it even allows you to save your configuration to a script so you can use it later :)
[22:41] <volga629> <yakster: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[22:42] <bluelamp> fabianhjr__, that will alow me to set a password for root, thus enabling me to log in as root ?
[22:42] <aerosolair_> o
[22:42] <fabianhjr__> bluelamp: yeah
[22:42] <yakster> umm k its installing now…. Thank you Apt-get
[22:42] <yakster> arandr is cli?
[22:42] <Polah> bluelamp: You shouldn't. Use sudo.
[22:43] <bluelamp> thanks fabianhjr__  .. next time i have my netbook, ill give it a go..
[22:43] <volga629> <yakster: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[22:43] <bluelamp> then what polah ?
[22:43] <fabianhjr__> bluelamp: you shouldn't as Polah suggests though
[22:43] <fabianhjr__> bluelamp: just do sudo [command] and input your password when needed.
[22:43] <fabianhjr__> It is a security feature affter all.
[22:44] <Polah> bluelamp: That is, you shouldn't set a password for the root account through sudo. You prepend commands with sudo to run them with higher privileges temporarily. sudo <command> and then your own password will run that command with advanced privileges
[22:44] <volga629> ekiga ubuntu how to install opal libraries for h264 ?
[22:45] <bluelamp> oh, i see. yeah, i know, root stays unused .. i would like the option to log into root on my netbook as i can my laptop though.  this is my only interest... such as when something comes up like "only root can unmount this drive" fabianhjr__ , Polah
[22:45] <Polah> bluelamp: Yes, that's what you use sudo for.
[22:45] <yakster> ok, arandr… just gives me a bunch of python script errors…
[22:46] <fabianhjr__> bluelamp: sudo umount [more]
[22:46] <Polah> bluelamp: sudo runs the command as root, providing your user account has appropriate privileges to use sudo.
[22:47] <bluelamp> ok... :) fabianhjr__ Polah , if i should never log in as root  then what is the root account for ?
[22:48] <iridium>  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:48] <fabianhjr__> bluelamp: so if you get malware it will not affect others unless you provide the password.
[22:48] <qin> bluelamp: sudo -i for root shell, or install root terminal.
[22:48] <fabianhjr__> Also, it limits your destruction ability of a lot of things by making you think why your are typing your password.
[22:48] <bluelamp> oh... fabianhjr__ , i see
[22:49] <bluelamp> qin, that sounds useful, a root terminal :)
[22:49] <fabianhjr__> bluelamp: Think of VAC for WinV/Win7
[22:49] <fabianhjr__> The only thing is that sudo/su/root work and VAC doesn't.
[22:50] <MrCollins> whats the command to open a terminal window in ubuntu im trying to create a launcher
[22:50] <bluelamp> fabianhjr__, what is VAC ? i quit using windows at xp when i saw others display the waste that M$ titled vista ...
[22:50] <MrCollins> the command 'terminal' does not seem to work
[22:50] <qin> MrCollins: gnome-terminal
[22:50] <MrCollins> qin, thank you!
[22:50] <Polah> bluelamp: To provide a superuser account that has access to the entire system. For Ubuntu, it is not assigned a password for security reasons. Applications running under root have authority over the entire system and thus can affect parts of the system unhindered, not allowing general access to that prevents such problems. sudo allows you to do things with elevated privileged when you need to but you have to take specific action to do tha
[22:50] <Polah> t. If you were to generally use the root account and ran a malicious program, it could easily destroy the system whereas on a non-root account it wouldn't have high enough privileges normally
[22:51] <Neosano> MrCollins, I'm curious.. why are you creating a launcher? :D
[22:51] <bluelamp> Polah, thats nice :)
[22:51] <qin> MrCollins: Btw: Alt-Ctrl-t
[22:52] <MrCollins> qin,  thank you!!
[22:52] <Loshki> bluelamp: note also that having an account that is never allowed to login is a fairly common way of packaging things in many distros....
[22:52] <qin> Neosano: thx, my memory puzzles me sometimes
[22:52] <JoeR1> I would like to get rid of firefox and I would like to not have chromium either, how may I do this?
[22:52] <gm4486> hello
[22:52] <Polah> fabianhjr__, bluelamp: I think you mean UAC? UAC isn't that useful, it doesn't stop malware or permission elevation for malicious programs, it just inhibits users doing admin-level things. On Linux sudo allows users to run admin level things but the requirement to have appropriate permissions to actually run things as the root account temporarily stops malware and suchlike from accessing things it shouldn't. It's much more effective than
[22:52] <Polah> UAC
[22:52] <Neosano> qin, np :D
[22:52] <gm4486> just a small question
[22:53] <bluelamp> Loshki, i do not comprehend this . will you explain ?
[22:53] <Polah> JoeR1: sudo apt-get remove firefox, or sudo apt-get purge firefox. Purging will remove dpkg config files as well.
[22:53] <qin> JoeR1: sudo apt-get remove --purge (package name)
[22:53] <bluelamp> oh VAC was ment to be UAC , as in user access control .. thanks Polah
[22:53] <qwaz> what type of security is in place on a wireless network if it stops you from being able to see other computers on the wireless network with nmap. And all you can see is the router?(This is most likely the wrong irc channel but I really can't find one for this type of thing)
[22:53] <JoeR1> Polah, qin Thanks
[22:53] <gm4486> if i want to apply a static lan ip in my laptop, do i have to do this from my router or from ubuntu?
[22:54] <StevenR> gm4486: depends
[22:54] <gm4486> can u explain?
[22:54] <StevenR> gm4486: do you want the laptop to always have the same IP on that lan, or always have the same IP everywhere?
[22:55] <gm4486> on that lan
[22:55] <qin> gm4486: thechicaly, both, but router should accept valid configuration from system.
[22:55] <StevenR> on the router then
[22:55] <bluelamp> so Polah , would the root terminal qin  mentioned also provide that same limited access ?
[22:55] <mali_> gm4486: if you have a dhcp server working as your router so to speak, then it will/can assign yourlaptop a static ip , assuming you set it to receive ip from yoru dhcp server, else, set it on yourlaptop
[22:55] <Gredeu> fedora couldn't solve my samba issue.  i only got a clue that was worthless. using ubuntu again.
[22:55] <Polah> gm4486: You should be able to do it on your laptop to always request a specific IP, but you could probably set your router up to always assign the same IP to the same MAC address each time
[22:55] <padster> does anybody know how I can extract a .traineddata file?
[22:56] <JoeR1> Polah, qin  - No such luck, apt-get still insists on installing Chromium if I remove/purge Firefox or vice versa
[22:56] <padster> tesseract-ocr doesn't seem to have the command for it installed
[22:56] <bluelamp> ok, thanks fabianhjr , Polah , qin , Loshki .. im gone
[22:56] <Polah> bluelamp: I don't know about root terminal as a program, probably so much less limited than running sudo in a normal terminal. Normally you prepend your command with sudo and then enter your password, if you have privileges to use sudo, and then it runs the command as root. You can use sudo -i then enter your password to log in as the root account on that terminal if you have many commands to run as root
[22:57] <bluelamp> ok thanks Polah ...
[22:58] <Loshki> bluelamp: take a look in /etc/passwd. Any user that has /bin/false at the end of the line can't be used for login. There are lots of them e.g. saned, mysql, ntp. This limits damage in case one of them malfunctions, since you can make your files readable/writeable only by yourself  (and root)
[22:58] <bluelamp> i suspect the root terminal qin mentioned uses that tag on startup ...
[22:58] <qin> JoeR1: Yes, firefox seems to part of ubuntu-desktop
[22:59] <fbsd> hi
[22:59] <bluelamp> Loshki, sweet ... ill peek there now
[22:59] <KurinPawpad> Does anyone know of a linux alternative to the windows program Virtual Audio Cable?
[22:59] <JoeR1> qin, I detest Firefox
[22:59] <qin> JoeR1: Use Opera!
[23:00] <Loshki> bluelamp: and run 'man 5 passwd' to see all the gory details....
[23:00] <Polah> KurinPawpad: Jack
[23:01] <Polah> Loshki: Those user accounts are for daemons though, to allow restricted privilege settings
[23:01] <Neosano> hmmm, is 11.10 version going to use kernel 3.0.3?
[23:02] <KurinPawpad> Polah:  Never had any luck with Jack.  Any tutorials around for the uniniatiated?
[23:02] <Polah> KurinPawpad: Can't help you set it up but I think it's what you're looking for.
[23:02] <KurinPawpad> not looking for handholding, just a good proven tutorial
[23:03] <mali_> KurinPawpad: my experiences with Jack is to literally just google various forums, posts, issues :)
[23:03] <mali_> but someone might have an idea of more centralised documentation (eg. their website)
[23:04] <Polah> Neosano: 11.10a3 shipped with 3.0.3 I think. Final release may or may not use it depending on compatibility.
[23:04] <Polah> KurinPawpad, you could ask in #jack
[23:04] <KurinPawpad> not to say I wouldn't /like/ handholding, but I'm not asking for it.
[23:06] <iloveallOSs> I know that Ubuntu uses OpenGL, but can I use OpenGL instead of DirectX on Windows by installating a driver or what?
[23:07] <mali_> iloveallOSs:  Your gfx card drivers will implement the driver part of their openGL capabilities mate
[23:07] <Polah> iloveallOSs, More of a question for #windows, but yes OpenGL is available for Windows.
[23:08] <JoeR1> qin, Sorry I was away, I liked Opera in Windows but it was also undesirable in linux
[23:08] <Loshki> Polah: But isn't account isolation the ultimate goal, otherwise all daemons could just run as 'daemon'?
[23:08] <WaSeidel> hi I'll shot my question, I have recently installed gnome3 on ubuntu 11.04 but now I can't start graphics server and I just can start as root (sudo startx), but not as normal user (as an admin) what should I do?
[23:09] <mali_> startx should nevr really be called as root user
[23:09] <mali_> and which might screw up the X config files for normal users actually
[23:10] <WaSeidel> mali_: but that is the  only way I can start graphics server
[23:10] <uminvincible> volga629: This is serious war... The bluetooth is not working fine till I do the following. I have to start windows... Setup Bluetooth into it, While Bluetooth is functioning, I have to literally Kill Windows, then I have to log into Ubuntu and only then it will detect Bluetooth. This is Ubuntu Declaring a War on Windows.
[23:10] <mali_> hmm. try starting gdm
[23:10] <mali_> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[23:10] <uminvincible> volga629: And on a serious note, It has not solved the problem...
[23:10] <WaSeidel> service gdm restart
[23:10] <WaSeidel> mali_: that doesn't works
[23:10] <mali_> havent used ubuntu since they did unity.. g3 aka naty but think it is under there
[23:11] <mali_> ok, what doesn't work?
[23:11] <mali_> you obviously have to kill X and do it in a console
[23:11] <mali_> I presume you did that
[23:11] <uminvincible> volga629: When I try to uninstall Bluez package, the problem is synaptic also asks me to remove gnome-bluetooth, which means it is a dependency... It probabbly wont solve this way
[23:11] <Polah> Loshki: Like I said, it allows for greater permission restrictions. For example I may want www-data for Apache to only have access to its config files and /var/www for example so it can't access anything outside of that for security purposes. However, I may want another daemon, let's say SSH to have access to the SSH config files but not the Apache config files
[23:11] <WaSeidel> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (obviously before start Xserver)
[23:11] <mali_> well I dont know... I left ubuntu since unity and (kinda) am notlooking back atm
[23:12] <WaSeidel> so i'll download fedora I don't like unity tanks anyway mali_
[23:13] <Loshki> Polah: ok, we're in violent agreement. What you call "restricted privilege settings" I call account isolation. Tomarto, tomayto...
[23:14] <volga629> uminvincible: can you try remove both packages and after just install form command line
[23:14] <Polah> Loshki: Well, it's isolating the account's privileges.
[23:14] <WaSeidel> even I tried to install in a virtual machine and the same with gnome3 on ubuntu 11.04 I think it was because the graphics adapter on that virtual machine
[23:15] <Polah> WaSeidel: GNOME3 doesn't work on 11.04
[23:15] <ardian> Hi is Ubuntu 10.10 still supported ?
[23:15] <Polah> ardian: Yes it is
[23:15] <volga629> uminvincible: sudo apt-get install gnome-bluetooth libgnome-bluetooth8
[23:15] <WaSeidel> Polah: i figured it out by the hard way :D
[23:15] <ardian> Polah, till when ?
[23:16] <qwaz> How do i set up a static ip address for eth0 from the command line
[23:16] <Polah> WaSeidel: It's fairly easy to revert back to GNOME2. ppa-purge removes all of the GNOME3 PPA's packages and reverts them to GNOME2, useful for a lot of people (:
[23:17] <WaSeidel> Polah: but I want Gnome 3 I'm now searching other way to have it, thanks
[23:17] <antid> hi. i have a 9.04 ubuntu cd. can i install this version and then upgrade to a latter version from it?
[23:17] <Flannel> qwaz: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html#static-ip-addressing
[23:17] <spikey> test
[23:18] <Polah> ardian: I believe it's 18 months (1.5 years) for normal releases and 3 years for LTS releases on desktop. LTS server support is 5 years I think
[23:18] <spikey> see? people here... typing away...
[23:18] <ardian> Polah, aha, thank you.
[23:18] <Flannel> antid: That's old enough that it'd be worth downloading and burning a newer one (10.04 would be a good candidate)
[23:18] <wzhh> 11.04
[23:18] <spikey> Do any of you guys know of a good Paltalk alternative on Ubuntu?
[23:18] <ardian> Maverick Meerkat 10.10 will be supported until April 2012.
[23:19] <Polah> antid: Yes, although for the sake of a 600MB ISO downloading a later one and burning it to a CD or putting it on a USB may be easier than upgrading a bunch of times
[23:19] <spikey> or... is Pidgin pretty decent?
[23:19] <bvierra1> hey all, is there something like SpaceWalk (for Fedora) for Ubuntu?
[23:19] <Polah> ardian: Yes so a year and a half
[23:19] <Flannel> antid: 10.04 will be supported until April of 2012 as well, at which point you can upgrade directly to 12.04
[23:19] <Flannel> antid: Er sorry, 10.04 will be supported until April of 2013.
[23:20] <qwaz> flannel: yeah I actually just tried that before I asked and it does not work. Thanks though
[23:20] <antid> uhm so i then better burn 10.04 instead of the 11. ?
[23:20] <Flannel> qwaz: I know it works, because I've done it.
[23:20] <Polah> spikey: You may be able to run PalTalk through wine. Look at winehq's appdb
[23:20] <Flannel> antid: Right, 10.04 is LTS, so it's supported for 3 years on the desktop instead of the usual 18 months.
[23:21] <Flannel> qwaz: What part of it didn't work?
[23:21] <spikey> OK - I'll give that a shot. Thanks much, Polah.
[23:21] <Polah> antid: No, you could get the 11.04 ISO if you wanted that, get the ISO of the release you were going to upgrade to.
[23:21] <qwaz> flannel: alright ill give it another shot, lemme get back to you in 5
[23:21] <antid> ok, i will think about it
[23:22] <Loshki> antid: 10.04 has the advantage that it's an LTS, so it's generally really stable, making it the distro of choice for a newbie, IMO...
[23:23] <Polah> antid: It should take 30-45 minutes to burn and install 11.04 and however long it would take you to download the ISO depending on your internet connection. Upgrading from 9.04 throught to 11.04 would probably take several hours
[23:23] <kolix> Hi
[23:24] <kolix> does anyone know where i can do cool stuff to the ubuntu terminal?
[23:24] <kolix> sorta like kde-look?
[23:24] <kolix> make it look badass and stuff
[23:24] <Polah> kolix: What kind of "cool stuff"?
[23:25] <Loshki> spikey: poke around google. I see lots of hits for "ubuntu paltalk". You aren't the first to try it apparently...
[23:25] <kolix> like echo like shit in the terminal
[23:25] <kolix> like having real-time cpu displays, network operations in the background
[23:25] <kolix> cool shit like that
[23:25] <lancerforhire> Hello.  Is support for PiViTi provided in this room?
[23:25] <qwaz> flannel: Ok it did work thankyou. I was using ifconfig eth0 up and down before. Instead of using ifdown/ifup eth0 . Thanks :P
[23:26] <Flannel> qwaz: No worries.
[23:26] <Polah> kolix: Watch your language please. I don't know about doing things like that actually inside a GNOME terminal
[23:26] <kolix> ok
[23:26] <kolix> what stuff do you usally monitor when you're running a server?
[23:26] <Polah> kolix: You can get programs that show graphs and whatnot like that on panels though
[23:26] <ksx4system> what can cause random GNOME session restarts on 11.04?
[23:26] <lancerforhire> pitivi*
[23:27] <Polah> kolix: Network throughput, network connections memory usage, processor usage, running processes (as few as possible)
[23:27] <Polah> lancerforhire: If it's on Ubuntu, yes
[23:27] <ksx4system> it drives me mad, i simply leave my desktop 24/7 on and then come back to see... login screen. wtf?
[23:27] <lancerforhire> Polah: It is.  But the help screen looked so generic I wasn't sure.
[23:27] <Polah> lancerforhire, then we can probably help you
[23:28] <qwaz> flannel: do you have any experience with ubuntu not connecting to a wep network? Even though connecting to unecrypted networks is fine?
[23:28] <lancerforhire> How do I freeze the video track at a certain point until a certain time is elapsed?  I want it to display something and hold that until the right time in the audio track.
[23:28] <kolix> Polah, thank you
[23:29] <kolix> is there anyone to change the look and feel of the winowing system
[23:29] <Grim147> how is unity with fglrx ?
[23:29] <Polah> kolix: Many, I'm sure some people can tell you a few
[23:29] <kolix> Polah, how do i echo those things in the terminal?
[23:31] <Polah> kolix: the top command will show you running processes, memory usage and processor usage, ifstat can tell you network throughput. I don't know about number of active connections in a terminal though. You could probably find a program that would list multiple things like that
[23:31] <Loshki> lancerforhire: also try #pitivi
[23:31] <yakster> anyone know how to disable the lcd of a laptop and make the external primary?
[23:31] <yakster> nvidia btw…
[23:31] <lancerforhire> Loshki: I think #pitivi is dead :(
[23:31] <ksx4system> one more time: what can cause random GNOME session restarts on 11.04?
[23:32] <qin> kolix: htop, iftop, iotop
[23:32] <yakster> is it gnome restarting, or x?
[23:34] <ksx4system> yakster: i have no idea, i never saw the moment when it crashes. i go somewhere, then come back and i see GDM instead of GNOME's desktop
[23:35] <qin> ksx4system: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:35] <qin> ksx4system: Also syslog and messages and kern.log
[23:35] <kolix> qin, Polah: thanks guys
[23:36] <xxxxx> d
[23:37] <Loshki> lancerforhire: In the tiny groups (#pitivi has 25 users, #ubuntu has 1400) you don't get instant turnaround. It can take a day (or two) until someone checks in...
[23:38] <lancerforhire> Oh... xD
[23:39] <ksx4system> qin: 1024 last lines of these three files: http://wklej.org/hash/ac1e04cfc73/txt/
[23:39] <ksx4system> qin: Xorg.0.log first, kern.log second and syslog is the last
[23:40] <qwaz> what type of security is in place on a wireless network if it stops you from being able to see other computers on the wireless network with nmap. And all you can see is the router?(This is most likely the wrong irc channel but I really can't find one for this type of thing)
[23:41] <elrond> hi
[23:42] <kolix> anybody know how i can get these counters in this screenshot in the bottom right hand corner?
[23:42] <kolix> http://ubuntu-art.org/content/show.php/Wallpaper?content=63675
[23:43] <elrond> alguien sabe como puedo añadir un servidor hispano?
[23:43] <Polah> !es | elrond
[23:44] <Hasham> hi..i have come to know that ubuntu 11.10 has no classic DE option
[23:44] <elrond> gracias
[23:45] <Lasers> Hasham: Correct.
[23:46] <Hasham> Lasers,  so unity only..?
[23:47] <Lasers> Hasham: Yes, Unity (or Unity 2D for slower machines). If you don't like it, consider looking at alternatives.
[23:48] <Hasham> Lasers,  i knid of like it despite its bugs . but there should be an option of gnome 3
[23:50] <Lasers> Hasham: That's not in the plan. Ubuntu created Unity. Gnome create Gnome3. You can try Gnome3 using PPA or different distro.
[23:50] <Lasers> !gnome3 | Hasham
[23:50] <jerriy1> Help
[23:50] <ksx4system> because lack of reply, one more time: what can cause random GNOME session restarts on 11.04?
[23:50] <jerriy1> I got a zombie
[23:52] <jerriy1> Today in "system process" I discovered an up until now non existant thing: "firefox bin status ZOMBIE"
[23:52] <Hasham> ubottu,  why cononical is pushing so hard towards unity
[23:52] <jerriy1> Zombie is slowing my browser TENFOLD
[23:53] <qwaz> jerriy1: Sorry I cant help, but what is a zombie in your case?
[23:54] <Lasers> jerriy1: Reboot will kill all zombies.
[23:56] <jerriy1> Lasers: done that shutdown reboot no change (everytime I start firefox the zombie rears it's ugly head (it sure is living up to it's "zombie" name :P
[23:56] <Lasers> jerriy1: Ah. I don't know about it. I personally haven't used Firefox since I made the switch to chromium.
[23:56] <dagmowi> anyone know if mouse gestures can be set for work spaces like os x and gnome 3?
[23:57] <jerriy1> I've got chromium but I use ff as "main"
[23:58] <volga629> how to resolve dependency problem when install ffmpeg on ubuntu 10.10 ?
[23:59] <tikiking1> is there any persistent alternative to "sudo setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=00" for no backlight on laptops
[23:59] <watchedman> hey folks, I'm trying to do an alternate install of 11.04 (for Ubuntu Studio) and was able to get through base system installation but the installer seems to have stalled at "Configure the package manager." Any ideas as to why that would be happening?