[12:28] bac benji (danilos gmb are on vacation IIRC): call in about 2 [12:29] k [12:38] benji, do I get to have a friend at Clojure conj? :-) I've been practicing in 4clojure.com ;-) [12:40] gary_poster: I'm afraid not. I don't see how Katie could keep up with the kids for that long. I hate to miss it. [12:40] I very much understand, benji, even though it sucks. [12:40] :-) [12:50] gary_poster: wow, I'm getting an aura (it's like a migrane without the pain but with visual disturbances and sometimes other nurological symptoms); I'm going to take a 10 or 15 minute break until I can see the screen again without looking our the corner of my eye :) [13:00] benji, of course. doesn't sound fun :-( [13:02] gary_poster: it's actally not bad, just jind of wierd no being able to see well :) I'm just thankful I don't get real migranes [13:02] ack [13:21] wow, memory is super cheap now. just bought 4 x 4GB for $95 [13:21] on a related note, OS X Lion is a pig [13:22] and kinda buggy, it seems :-/ [13:28] i mainly have trouble with aperture, which was pretty solid pre-lion but hangs and crashes a lot now [14:21] ok, I think I'm close enough to normal again [14:32] gary_poster: i've put a pdb breakpoint in some model code and am running a unit test (not doctest). rather than breaking like normal it is just hanging but not bringing up the debugger. you ever seen this? [14:34] bac, sure, but for mundane reasons you have encountered too, I'm sure. Most often I encounter this kind of thing because model code is doing something thread-y, or because someone has hijacked stdout. Beyond that...thinking... [14:34] shouldn't be either of those... [14:35] bac, you could try adding a print statement before the pdb to verify stdout; could this maybe be job-related? [14:35] dunno [14:35] thx [15:26] gary_poster: I'm afraid this is getting bad again. I'm going to have to lay down for a while. [15:28] benji, ok. take it easy.