[05:20] <philipballew> yo everyone. when i try to install 11.04 on my desktop the screen is really blury when the gui starts to load.
[05:41] <bioterror> press automatic screen adjustment from your display ;)
[05:42] <philipballew> maybe.
[05:42] <philipballew> let me see bioterror
[05:43] <philipballew> it might need the drivers. but this is a new monitor
[05:43] <bioterror> what drivers?-)
[05:46] <philipballew> well i did a fresh install last week.the screen showed fine on my old monitor, but now the now one looks like crap
[05:53] <philipballew> ya dig bioterror
[05:53] <bioterror> w00t?
[05:53] <bioterror> did you check your monitor settings
[05:53] <bioterror> that it's set to 60Hz if LCD/TFT
[05:53] <bioterror> and correct resolution
[05:54] <bioterror> just checking
[05:54] <philipballew> i cant even see the screen. its all static
[05:54] <bioterror> as I've never had any blurry image
[05:54] <bioterror> philipballew, are you using HD-15 or DVI?
[05:54] <philipballew> whats that again?
[05:54] <bioterror> cable
[05:54] <philipballew> its hooked up via vga
[05:54] <bioterror> is your singal analog or digital
[05:55] <bioterror> is it possible to use DVI?
[05:55] <bioterror> as DVI will offer always the best image quality
[05:55] <philipballew> its analog
[05:55] <philipballew> no. comp doesnt have a port
[06:05] <philipballew> i might post on a form bioterror
[13:40] <silverarrow_> could there be a reason some sites are slow to connect?
[13:40] <silverarrow_> lately I have trouble with transmission and irc
[13:40] <silverarrow_> taking for ever to connect
[13:42] <silverarrow_> does that sound just weird?
[13:45] <phillw> my IRC is fine, but some web pages take a while. Then again when at home the link is not very fast :)
[13:46] <silverarrow_> so, I might be my connection?
[13:47] <silverarrow_> most sites load fine though
[13:47] <silverarrow_> transmission have been a bit weird
[13:48] <silverarrow_> I am connected to two seeders, or one seeder and one peer. It takes for ever to download, a lot of the time not downloading at all
[13:48] <bioterror> are you behind NAT?
[13:48] <bioterror> is your port forwarded?
[13:49] <silverarrow_> I have no ida
[13:49] <silverarrow_> idea
[13:49] <bioterror> start from those
[13:50] <silverarrow_> and when I am finished downloading and seeding to two peers, there is hardly any upload at all?
[13:52] <silverarrow_> oh, so NAT issues are real
[13:53] <silverarrow_> for a while there I thought it was a snarky remark
[13:53] <silverarrow_> lol
[14:00] <silverarrow_> rather tricky issues
[14:01] <silverarrow_> I shall need some time on it
[14:13] <silverarrow_> I have a closed port
[14:17] <bioterror> wonder why torrent works not so well
[14:17] <silverarrow_> lol
[14:17] <silverarrow_> but what to do?
[14:18] <bioterror> take your routers manual in your hands and read how to do a port forward
[14:19] <silverarrow_> darn, the router is on the second floor, and my neighbor isn't home
[14:19] <silverarrow_> we share internet
[14:57] <leszek> hi
[15:05] <phillw> hi leszek
[15:48] <silverarrow> how do I close Transmission if it resists ending?
[15:50] <uris> silverarrow: use the CLI
[15:51] <silverarrow> the what?
[15:51] <silverarrow> worked
[15:52] <silverarrow> I mean Ctrl Q
[17:20] <bluelight> i read that lubuntu only requires 2gigs installed. --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements Where can i get a lubuntu iso ? or flash dish image ?
[17:20] <bluelight> disk*
[17:21] <bluelight> i am currently using easypeasy.
[17:21] <bluelight> it used my whole 4gig ssd
[17:21] <silverarrow> is anyone willing to test putty with me?
[17:21]  * bluelight does not golf :P
[17:22] <silverarrow> lol
[17:22] <bluelight> :)
[17:22] <silverarrow> you know, the computer to computer communication
[17:23] <bluelight> nope. i do not know... i am currently seeking a lubuntu install cd before it is time to goto work
[17:23] <silverarrow> I see
[17:23] <silverarrow> any problems?
[17:23] <bluelight> i realize pu and tty have different meanings though :)
[17:23] <bluelight> i do not know where to get it
[17:23] <silverarrow> oh let me
[17:24] <bluelight> you know where to get the current lubuntu iso ?
[17:24] <bluelight> or what ever form it is distributed in ..
[17:25] <silverarrow> yes
[17:25] <silverarrow> what distro do you need?
[17:25] <bluelight> i tried EB4 but it seems as though they are more concerned with their "full time jobs" then hassling with eeebuntu any more
[17:25] <silverarrow> 32-64 bit?
[17:26] <bluelight> i have a 32bit asus netbook
[17:26] <bluelight> 4gig ssd , 512 system ram. ...
[17:26] <silverarrow> with som GB hard drive space?
[17:26] <bluelight> 900MHz
[17:26] <silverarrow> all fine
[17:27] <bluelight> the hard drive is a SSD (flash drive)
[17:27] <bluelight> $gig
[17:27] <bluelight> 4Gig*
[17:27] <silverarrow> http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-11.04.iso
[17:27] <silverarrow> oh I see
[17:28] <silverarrow> rather minimal
[17:29] <bluelight> yes, who is gilir ?
[17:30] <bluelight> i was reluctent to get a machanicle HDD because of power consumption
[17:30] <silverarrow> I'm not shore, but that is the download I used
[17:30] <bluelight> thanks...
[17:31] <silverarrow> I have a regular IDE 320GB in an old loptop, it runs lubuntu all fine
[17:31] <silverarrow> 1GB ram and 700MHz cpu
[17:32] <bluelight> it alows for plugging in a seperate ssd seated next to the system ram. the four gig is soldered  on the board
[17:32] <bluelight> yes, my ubuntu (current version) runs well with 1gig of ram on my laptop. it rarely demands more then 1/2
[17:34] <silverarrow> lubuntu has 256 recommended
[17:35] <bluelight> 690 megs system ram now... kvirc, firefox, pidgin, thunderbird, dropbox, and a download happening... it has made use of less then 500megs swap
[17:35] <silverarrow> 512 should be all fine
[17:35] <bluelight> windows could never accomplish this ...
[17:36] <silverarrow> my other computer has 3GB RAM and 750GB HD, but will not take lubuntu easily
[17:36] <bluelight> sweet, my 512 netbook will be fine :) i dare not use a swap partition for preservation of my SSD
[17:37] <silverarrow> I'm not shore about ssd really
[17:37] <bluelight> why does the 3gig system have troubles with lubuntu?
[17:37] <silverarrow> it will not boot
[17:37] <silverarrow> sort of resists the ubuntu boot up
[17:37] <silverarrow> a bit weird
[17:37] <silverarrow> puppy linux boots fine though
[17:38] <silverarrow> but I need a hard drive install really, not just frugal
[17:39] <bluelight> flash storage has a low number of write cycles before it becomes unstable , unlike a spinning disk whos metal serface can be magneticly altered freely with little concern.
[17:39] <silverarrow> yes I know, just a regular usb memory stick?
[17:39] <bluelight> flash is more like a rewritable CD
[17:40] <silverarrow> I know there are 1TB hard drive flash version these days
[17:41] <silverarrow> I think they are optional on new stationary macs and hps
[17:42] <silverarrow> so this is a SSD with IDE input?
[17:42] <silverarrow> or just regular USB?
[17:44] <bluelight> no.. pci-e ssd --> image of one at amazon --> http://www.amazon.com/16GB-SaberTooth-AA-50mm-PATA-Mini-9/dp/B002E6YYMI?SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-r-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B002E6YYMI
[17:44] <bluelight> i do not know the detials
[17:45] <bluelight> i lost interest in electronics...
[17:46] <silverarrow> looks fine
[17:46] <bluelight> i doubt 1TB will fit in flash memory for a sane cost
[17:46] <bluelight> if at all. if so, would be a lage board
[17:46] <silverarrow> I have no idea really, I just noticed the new top of the line models come with flash hard drives as an option
[17:47] <silverarrow> same price as regular sata drive
[17:50] <silverarrow> new technology is always ridiculously expensive, in 5 years it's mainstream
[17:50] <bluelight> here is a likely explination for your statement of an existing 1TB flash device --> https://fakeflashnews.wordpress.com/2010/09/29/kingston-dt200-offers-new-capacity-%E2%80%93-1tb-usb-flash-memory-stick-the-biggest-capacity-for-a-usb-flash-drive-is-available-from-aliexpress-com-wholesale-cost-for-dt200-is-not-expensive-it-is-c/
[17:52] <silverarrow> I doubt what I read was fake, I mean it was HPs home pages I think
[17:52] <bluelight> ok...
[17:53] <bluelight> then it would not be flash, it would be a spinning disk type HDD
[17:55] <bluelight> netbooks have extreemly small HDD though..
[17:55] <bluelight> smaller then 2.5 i think
[17:58] <silverarrow> no, still 2,5 but superslim
[17:58] <bluelight> oh... thanks
[17:59] <bluelight> download is compelte, thanks for the link
[17:59] <silverarrow> oh,  you are correct
[17:59] <bluelight> how can i assist you with putty ?
[18:00] <silverarrow> i see   mac book air has a 1.8 inc hard drive
[18:00] <bluelight> you found a hdd smaller then 2.5 ?
[18:00] <bluelight> ahh ...
[18:00] <silverarrow> do you have putty?
[18:00] <bluelight> well, i am sure i can install it...
[18:01] <bluelight> if you tell me what to do for this test... i will do my part
[18:01] <silverarrow> I what to try if it works on this laptop
[18:01] <bluelight> ok, i will check for putty, brb
[18:01] <silverarrow> I found it in package manager
[18:02] <bluelight> im am checking ubuntu software center
[18:02] <silverarrow> i see, you are in ubuntu
[18:02] <silverarrow> am an in lubuntu now
[18:03] <bluelight> PuTTY Terminal Emulator ?
[18:03] <silverarrow> yes
[18:03] <bluelight> yes, the netbook is for work... it alows me to read my PDF books when i am not driving
[18:03] <bluelight> installing
[18:03] <silverarrow> it's a tiny thing
[18:07] <bluelight> putty running
[18:07] <bluelight> now what ?
[18:07] <silverarrow> I'm not shore lol
[18:07] <silverarrow> my ip is 80.213.97.81
[18:08] <bluelight> i do not know how to operate putty
[18:08] <bluelight> what is the command  to connect to your ip address ?
[18:08] <silverarrow> that is what I want to try out
[18:08] <silverarrow> you have to fill it in
[18:09] <silverarrow> you can just goohttp://whatismyipaddress.com/
[18:09] <silverarrow> I have to fill out yours too i think
[18:10] <silverarrow> are you in putty configuration now?
[18:10] <bluelight> i am looking over "help" in putty...
[18:11] <bluelight> i do nto see aconfiguration options that would not take more time then i have .... it seems i would have to learn how to use putty first to be of any use to you
[18:12] <bluelight> it apears to be a scripting language rather then a list of commands
[18:12] <silverarrow> ??
[18:12] <bluelight> o_O
[18:13] <bluelight> it has commands for desision making
[18:13] <silverarrow> I open putty, and end up on a config page
[18:13] <bluelight> you do O_o
[18:13] <silverarrow> mayb later then
[18:14] <bluelight> perhaps another person. i seem to have already made an error
[18:14] <silverarrow> maybe not
[18:14] <bluelight> thanks for the link..
[18:14] <bluelight> how so ?
[18:14] <silverarrow> maybe it's a bit different in ubuntu, but it shouldn't really
[18:15] <bluelight> no it shouldnt
[18:16] <bluelight> my only other optiion is to install PuTTY SSH Client
[18:16] <silverarrow> PuTTY 2010-12-08 copyright simon tathham
[18:16] <silverarrow> tatham
[18:17] <silverarrow> hmm, maybe that's it then, you have too putty alternatives in package manager?
[18:18] <silverarrow> There only one putty option in synaptic package manager, which is sort of the lubuntu version of Ubuntu software centre
[18:18] <bluelight> yes, i am installing PuTTY ssh client now
[18:18] <silverarrow> well, Ubuntu used to have package manager too
[18:19] <bluelight> yes, i can run synaptic...
[18:20] <bluelight> nope.... not your version
[18:20] <silverarrow> oh, I downloaded about two or three days ago
[18:20] <silverarrow> ?
[18:20] <bluelight> may be a repository listed in lubuntu that is not listed in ubuntu
[18:21] <silverarrow> maybe
[18:21] <silverarrow> bioterror ?
[18:21] <daveo> is there a way if I get to grub and  tell it to boot a cd, not winXP or Lubuntu 9.04 which is installed on harddrive?
[18:21] <bluelight> O_o huh
[18:21] <silverarrow> daveo, should be
[18:21] <silverarrow> he is one of the clever guys ehre
[18:21] <silverarrow> bioterror I mean
[18:21] <silverarrow> sorry lol
[18:22] <daveo> well, that's good, but what do I enter?
[18:22] <daveo> go to rescue mode and try and mount the cdrom from there?
[18:22] <silverarrow> IAmNotThatGuy?
[18:23] <silverarrow> no, you should have a grub menu of sorts
[18:23] <IAmNotThatGuy> hey silverarrow
[18:23] <silverarrow> boot, then quickly press tab or somthing
[18:24] <daveo> right, but it doesn't show a cdrom, so tab?
[18:24] <silverarrow> IAmNotThatGuy, do you have any idea about Putty in lubuntu?
[18:24] <silverarrow> daveo, I think you have to go in bios
[18:24] <IAmNotThatGuy> erm! nope. Lemme have a look. 10 mins
[18:25] <silverarrow> bioterror tricked me into putty from package manager
[18:25] <daveo> somehow, someway, this old, old computer now refuses to boot off CD, no matter where I place it in the bios boot order
[18:26] <silverarrow> hmm
[18:26] <silverarrow> it is a bit reluctant
[18:26] <daveo> i might have screwed / messed up cabling when replacing burned out cd drive some ages ago
[18:26] <silverarrow> though it is an option in Bios?
[18:27] <daveo> right
[18:27] <silverarrow>  boot up from usb drive then?
[18:27] <daveo> that's not an option in bios
[18:27] <silverarrow> you often have to boot with usb preconnected to get that option though
[18:27] <silverarrow> there is away about that too
[18:28] <daveo> i'll go try , the puter's in the next room, got puppy on a usb stick
[18:29] <IAmNotThatGuy> silverarrow, what bioterror told? can you just explain?
[18:29] <IAmNotThatGuy> daveo, on the startup, you have to make the BIOS find the CDROM first and boot it
[18:29] <IAmNotThatGuy> go to BIOS settings (mostly F2)
[18:29] <IAmNotThatGuy> there you can find the option
[18:31] <silverarrow> IAmNotThatGuy, he recommended putty for communication computer to computer
[18:31] <IAmNotThatGuy> silverarrow, okay and what is your issue now?
[18:31] <IAmNotThatGuy> putty is the easiest GUI way of connecting
[18:31] <silverarrow> daveo, does you bios let you arrange priority for booting?
[18:33] <silverarrow> IAmNotThatGuy, I was going to try it out and get some help from bluelight, but we sort see totally different picture when opening putty
[18:33] <IAmNotThatGuy> silverarrow, imagebin link please
[18:33] <IAmNotThatGuy> that might be due to the version changes
[18:33] <silverarrow> there's only one version in lubuntu it seems
[18:34] <silverarrow> at least package manager
[18:34] <IAmNotThatGuy> silverarrow, and also avoid pinging people who helped you before and have no idea now =]. coz some of them might be away. use Short forms of their nick
[18:34] <silverarrow> IAmNotThatGuy it seems I can't copy putty?
[18:34] <IAmNotThatGuy> !imagebin | silverarrow
[18:34] <silverarrow> picture I mean
[18:35] <silverarrow> IAmNotThatGuy, no stage before pasting
[18:35] <IAmNotThatGuy> No PrtScn button??
[18:35] <IAmNotThatGuy> O_o?
[18:37] <silverarrow> IAmNotThatGuy, ok, I am a bit daft at this
[18:37] <silverarrow> I have a prtScr button but how to use it lol
[18:37] <bioterror> you press it
[18:37] <bioterror> and then you look into your ~/
[18:38] <IAmNotThatGuy> just press Alt+ PrtScr
[18:38] <IAmNotThatGuy> bioterror, :P
[18:38] <bioterror> IAmNotThatGuy, alt + print screen, are you using windows or what+
[18:38] <bioterror> ?
[18:38] <IAmNotThatGuy> bioterror, look at your back :P
[18:38] <IAmNotThatGuy> yep. Currently working window
[18:40] <silverarrow> http://imagebin.org/170177
[18:41] <silverarrow> sorry, majorly slow
[18:41] <silverarrow> first time
[18:41] <bioterror> !ssh | silverarrow
[18:42] <silverarrow> did it work IAmNotThatGuy?
[18:43] <silverarrow> though I have a feeling you are exactly that guy
[18:43] <IAmNotThatGuy> silverarrow, yep and follow bio
[18:43] <IAmNotThatGuy> bioterror, he is all yours =]. /me is not in a good mood
[18:43] <bioterror> me neither
[18:43] <IAmNotThatGuy> silverarrow, :P
[18:43] <bioterror> I had a worse workday
[18:43] <silverarrow> sorry
[18:43] <bioterror> mostly listening to some music
[18:43] <IAmNotThatGuy> argh!
[18:44] <silverarrow> we can put it off to a better time
[18:44]  * IAmNotThatGuy is listening to the song that he posted in his fb wall ^_^
[18:44] <bioterror> using SSH is not a magic
[18:44] <silverarrow> though we live on earth, will it ever come?
[18:44] <bioterror> you install openssh-server
[18:44] <bioterror> you connect to that with ssh client
[18:44] <bioterror> just some basic stuff
[18:44] <IAmNotThatGuy> silverarrow, no probs. read the link  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH
[18:44] <silverarrow> bioterror, I just wanted to try it out,
[18:45] <bioterror> dont try, you might get hooked!
[18:45] <silverarrow> though I think blulight is gone by now, installing lubuntu to SSD
[18:45] <bioterror> look at me
[18:45] <bioterror> I'm taking SSH connection even from my toaster to my servers
[18:45] <IAmNotThatGuy> silverarrow, probles comes on each day. cant stop helping others for that ;)
[18:45] <IAmNotThatGuy> problems*
[18:46] <IAmNotThatGuy> bioterror, do you know the full form of SSH? :P
[18:46]  * IAmNotThatGuy hides
[18:46] <bioterror> IAmNotThatGuy, what full form?
[18:46] <silverarrow> bioterro, the aeropress has come in handy, I shattered my press can, well the glass part
[18:47] <daveo> i'm part way there, getting it to boot off usb - now to put antix on stick instead of puppy, thanks for the suggestion silverarrow
[18:47] <bioterror> IAmNotThatGuy, did you know SSH is a finnish invention, just like IRC ;)
[18:47] <IAmNotThatGuy> bioterror, learn something kiddo :P
[18:47] <bioterror> IAmNotThatGuy, and Linux Kernel ;)
[18:47] <IAmNotThatGuy> :o
[18:48] <silverarrow> daveo, is it working?
[18:48] <IAmNotThatGuy> bioterror, but you are not those guys :P
[18:49] <silverarrow> daveo, one often has to fiddle a bit with stuff like this, but there  are ways about ut
[18:49] <silverarrow> it
[18:49] <IAmNotThatGuy> bioterror, have you ever been a part of an invention? :P
[18:49] <IAmNotThatGuy> silverarrow, he left :P
[18:49] <silverarrow> who dares to test putty on my old laptop?
[18:49] <silverarrow> oh
[18:49] <IAmNotThatGuy> silverarrow, try typing the first three letter of a name you wanna mention and press tab. (autofil)
[18:50] <silverarrow> oh
[18:50] <silverarrow> cool
[18:50] <silverarrow> I didn't know that
[18:50]  * IAmNotThatGuy steps back and moves bioterror to the front
[18:50] <silverarrow> darn long nick you have lol
[18:51] <silverarrow> with shit key and all
[18:51] <silverarrow> shift*
[18:51] <IAmNotThatGuy> silverarrow, xD
[18:51] <IAmNotThatGuy> lol
[19:07] <silverarrow> pidgin closed
[19:14] <silverarrow> noone dares to try out putty?
[19:14] <silverarrow> wimps
[19:14] <silverarrow> never mind,
[19:18] <bioterror> silverarrow, you're still behind NAT
[19:18] <bioterror> learn more about networking
[19:20] <silverarrow> bioterror, yes, closed ports and all
[19:21] <silverarrow> though, my neighbor is home I think
[19:21] <silverarrow> I mean, he has the router in his flat
[19:21] <silverarrow> we share an old house,
[19:22] <silverarrow> yeah, I should learn more about networking
[23:27] <silverarrow> anyone by the computer?
[23:28] <silverarrow> I am searching through the Tor packages, and there's lots of them
[23:28] <silverarrow> anyone using Tor?