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cody-somervillebdrung, persia, Laney, geser, stgraber: ping14:08
stgraberpong, though on a call14:08
stgraberIIRC we only have one name on the agenda and said we'd review it at our next meeting as it's less than a week old14:09
cody-somervilleOkay.14:10
stgrabere-mail from Laney to devel-permissions last week14:11
stgrabercody-somerville: I also offered cyphermox to sponsor any usb-modeswitch upload he has to do until our next meeting as I'm quite familiar with the work he's been doing on it14:13
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bdrungcody-somerville: pong. :)14:50
jelmerbdrung: Sorry, forgot to update you on lptools earlier. lifeless is happy with me adding myself as uploader to lptools, so I'm going to do that and get the current version in sid.14:52
arahello all14:59
bdrungjelmer: np. i hadn't time to look at the proposed merges for u-d-t15:00
araanyone for the UF meeting?15:01
akgranero/15:01
victorpo/15:02
araakgraner, cool15:02
araOK, getting started15:02
* ara hopes that people realised of the change of room15:02
ara#startmeeting15:02
meetingologyMeeting started Mon Aug 29 15:02:43 2011 UTC.  The chair is ara. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.15:02
meetingologyUseful Commands: #topic #action #link #idea #voters #vote #chair #action #agreed #help #info #endmeeting.15:02
araagenda:15:02
ara* Mockups!15:03
araToday we have a very small agenda15:03
ara#topic Mockups!15:03
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meetingologyTOPIC: Mockups!15:03
araThis week we are working in getting the basics of the UF programme ready to be used15:03
araOne of the things that we are doing is to try to understand how the UF should look like15:03
araWe came up with this mock up:15:04
arahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFriendly/MockUps15:04
ara#link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFriendly/MockUps15:04
araThe home page shows the different configurations and their rating15:04
araand some filters to find the information you need to find15:05
araWe are trying to solve the problem of the different configurations, while having a simple UI15:05
araOnce anyone clicks on one of this configurations, the config page15:06
arashows15:06
arawhere you can see the different results for that configuration15:06
arawith the complete list of components15:07
araand similar models based on the model name15:07
ara..15:07
araAnybody have any comments / suggestions?15:07
roadmro/15:07
araroadmr, go ahead :D15:07
roadmrwe talked about a link to a comments page, to be hosted in launchpad answers, just to make sure that doesn't get forgotten :)15:08
roadmr..15:08
araroadmr, I remember something like that from the last meeting15:08
arawhat kind of information we should put on lp answers?15:09
ara..15:09
roadmrlike if any user has a comment on the system15:09
roadmr"the default drivers don't work, use the broadcom proprietary ones"15:09
roadmr"update to bios version x.xx and then everything works well"15:09
roadmr"you need a dkms package to enable full touchpad functionality, get it here http:/xxxxxx"15:10
roadmrstuff like that - a comment like that would be useful for the model of laptop I have, for instance15:10
roadmreverything works well save for the trackpad, but a simple dkms module enables it15:10
roadmr..15:10
akgranero/15:10
araakgraner, you go15:10
akgranerwhile all those comments would be great that roadmr mentioned - none of the "regular ole end users" would even know how to do those things15:11
roadmro/15:11
akgraneror even comment on them so keeping the technical stuff answers on LP answers would be good15:11
akgranercould we also use Ask Ubuntu as another resource?...15:12
* ara waits a bit to see if akgraner has finished15:13
akgraner... (yep) sorry15:13
araroadmr, you go15:13
roadmrheh .. so I see akgraner's point, but having a way to either ask or see comments about a system is important15:13
roadmrotherwise people won't know where to go for that kind of stuff (and it *will* come up)15:14
roadmrand when they get mad about their devices not working even though the system had 4 stars, they'll complain anywhere they can heh15:14
roadmr..15:14
araI like it, maybe we can use one "question" per system for the comments15:15
arabut yes, something that we need to study how to get it right15:15
ara..15:15
araAny other comments on the mockups?15:15
araakgraner, how do you like them?15:16
akgranerI like them and I like the search option15:16
akgranerthey seem easy to point people too15:16
akgraner..15:16
aragood :)15:17
araanything else? or shall we move on?15:17
araOK, moving on then15:17
ara#topic - Any Other Business?15:17
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meetingologyTOPIC: - Any Other Business?15:17
ara(this meeting is going to be fast)15:17
akgranero/15:18
araakgraner, go ahead15:18
akgranerGlobal Jam15:18
akgranerI volunteered my LUG and LoCo team to go through system testing15:18
araperfect!15:18
akgranerand I'll have the slides ready for your review sometime today15:18
akgranerthat way I can point out pain points or questions15:19
akgranerI've also had other LoCo teams standing by for testing for release party time15:19
akgraner..15:19
araakgraner, awesome, send them in, and I will review them15:19
akgranerwill do thanks15:19
arawhen is global jam?15:19
akgraner..15:19
ara(exactly)15:19
araOk, this weekend15:20
akgranerSept 2-415:20
araperfect, we want to have a new Checkbox version ready in Oneiric with the UF tests ready15:20
arafor this weekend15:20
akgranergreat!  Let me know when they are in place and I'll replace the screenshots I have15:21
ara..15:21
akgraner..15:21
araakgraner, it shouldn't affect your screenshots, it will look the same, but with more tests15:21
akgranernods15:21
araOK, any other stuff?15:22
akgranerthat's all I got15:22
akgraner..15:22
aragoing once15:23
aragoing twice15:23
ara#endmeeting15:23
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araThanks all!15:24
roadmr\o/ thanks!15:24
akgranerthanks ara!15:24
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jdstrandhi!17:00
kees\o17:01
jjohanseno/17:01
jdstrandlet's get started17:01
jdstrand#startmeeting17:01
meetingologyMeeting started Mon Aug 29 17:01:35 2011 UTC.  The chair is jdstrand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.17:01
meetingologyUseful Commands: #topic #action #link #idea #voters #vote #chair #action #agreed #help #info #endmeeting.17:01
jdstrandThe meeting agenda can be found at:17:02
jdstrand[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting17:02
jdstrand[TOPIC] Announcements17:02
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meetingologyTOPIC: Announcements17:02
jdstrandtyhicks starts on the Ubuntu Security team today. He will be working on security updates for Ubuntu in general, as well as ecryptfs and other interesting stuff. Welcome!17:03
tyhicksjdstrand: Thank you!17:03
sbeattietyhicks: Welcome!17:03
jjohansentyhicks: good to have you on board17:03
tyhicksI really appreciate it and am excited to dive in17:03
* jdstrand hugs tyhicks 17:04
jdstrand:)17:04
tyhicks:)17:04
jdstrandin other news, mdeslaur is off this week17:04
jdstrand[TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report17:04
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meetingologyTOPIC: Weekly stand-up report17:04
blisshooray more ubuntu security team members17:05
jdstrandso, I have a lot of disparate things going on right now. with mdeslaur out, I figured I would do both triager and community work this week17:05
sbeattiejdstrand: you sure? I can pick up triaging this week if you like17:05
jdstrandin addition to that I plan to get back to defining dbus/apparmor tests and my metrics work items (neither of which I got to last week)17:05
jdstrandsbeattie: I'm sure-- this will allow you guys to have more time for remaining work items, etc17:06
jdstrandthat said, it isn't something I plan on doing regularly :P17:06
sbeattieheh17:07
jdstrandI think that's it from me. kees?17:07
blisspaging /proc commander17:07
keesI'm going to be focusing on work item bits, documentation, and anything else that comes up. there are a few kernel updates in the pipe for the ARM flavors as well.17:07
jdstrandhehe17:07
* kees pokes bliss in the eye :)17:07
* jdstrand loves that title btw :)17:08
keesthat's about it from me.17:08
keesheh17:08
jdstrandawesome ring to it17:08
jdstrandsbeattie: you're up17:09
sbeattieI'll be cleaning up my work items this week, spending time on apparmor stuff.17:09
sbeattieI think that's it for me, I may pick up an update in the background.17:10
jdstrandmicahg: you're next17:10
micahgchromium going out today, a little behind on the Firefox 6 migration for maverick, that should at least get built this week, depending on whether or not it'll impact the beta due to buildd time for translations, we might not move to proposed after beta, patch piloting, then back to webkit if there's time17:12
micahg*until after beta17:12
micahgthat's it I think17:12
jdstrandtyhicks: you're next17:13
tyhicksMy main focus will be on the new hire tasks (setting up accounts, configuring applications, joining proper mailing lists, etc.). When not working on those things, I'll need to tend to the eCryptfs bug and mailing list backlog that built up while leaving my old employer and last week while I was ignoring all things electronic. :)17:14
jdstrandcool17:15
jdstrand[TOPIC] Highlighted packages17:15
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meetingologyTOPIC: Highlighted packages17:15
jdstrandThe Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security.17:15
jdstrandhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/collectd.html17:15
jdstrandhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/firebird2.1.html17:15
jdstrandhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/openarena.html17:15
jdstrandhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/lxr.html17:15
jdstrandhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/cakephp.html17:15
jdstrand[TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions17:15
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meetingologyTOPIC: Miscellaneous and Questions17:15
blisshaha lxr17:15
jdstrandjjohansen: is there anything specific you need from me at this point to assist with dbus/apparmor? I am defining and implementing test cases (or at least as much as I can without the syntax and packages) right now17:16
jjohansenah yeah17:16
jjohansenI will actually have some packages for you to test today17:17
* jjohansen has a few more revisions to test but /me thinks we have chased down the crashers that kept taking the bus down17:17
jjohansenbasically jdstrand I need to work with you on the policy language a bit17:17
jdstrandjjohansen: ack. thanks again for all your work on that! :)17:18
jjohansenbut we can do that in #apparmor17:18
* jdstrand nods17:18
* jdstrand encourages sbeattie and kees to at least listen in as well if they have time17:18
jdstrandbut that probably isn't super required right now, as I imagine we'll be iterating it a bit and then submitting to the list17:19
sbeattiesure17:19
* kees nods17:19
jdstrandthanks17:19
jdstrandDoes anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?17:19
jdstrandgo once..17:20
jdstrandgoing twice..17:21
jdstrand#endmeeting17:21
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jdstrandthanks everyone! :)17:21
micahgthanks jdstrand17:22
keesthanks jdstrand!17:23
AlanBell#startmeeting test meeting18:08
meetingologyMeeting started Mon Aug 29 18:08:36 2011 UTC.  The chair is AlanBell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.18:08
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AlanBell#topic bar18:08
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AlanBell#votesrequired 318:09
meetingologyvotes now need 3 to be passed18:09
AlanBell#vote test vote18:09
meetingologyPlease vote on: test vote18:09
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)18:09
AlanBell+118:09
meetingology+1 received from AlanBell18:09
AlanBellanyone else want to vote?18:09
pleia2+118:09
meetingology+1 received from pleia218:09
micahg+118:10
meetingology+1 received from micahg18:10
AlanBellelky: what do you think of the current /topic behaviour?18:10
AlanBell#endvote18:10
meetingologyVoting ended on: test vote18:10
meetingologyVotes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:018:10
meetingologyMotion carried18:10
AlanBell#chair pleia218:10
meetingologyCurrent chairs: AlanBell pleia218:10
AlanBell#subtopic this is like a topic but less so18:11
AlanBellturns up in the minutes in a list18:11
AlanBellthere is #endmeetingforce now which will allow anyone to close a running meeting if one is left open18:12
micahgAlanBell: would you like me to test that?18:12
AlanBelland you can do "#startmeeting Loco Council" or whatever to put the meeting name in the logs18:12
AlanBellmicahg: go ahead18:12
micahg#endmeetingforce18:13
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meetingologyMeeting ended Mon Aug 29 18:13:04 2011 UTC.18:13
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-08-29-18.08.moin.txt18:13
stgraberAlanBell: is that something you could potentially restrict to /ubuntu/members or similar? (not that I think we need it at this point)18:13
AlanBellstill loads of bugs in the output, but the command bugs are mostly gone now18:13
pleia2AlanBell: could it be something like anyone with ops? (all ubuntu members have ops)18:13
pleia2well, all with the member cloak can *get* ops anyway18:13
AlanBellyeah, if I can figure out how to do that18:14
AlanBellI think I would like that command to listen just to people who have opped up18:14
AlanBellyou can do "+1 awesome" now18:15
pleia2great18:15
AlanBellso it does general votes and quorum votes now18:17
AlanBellI will be working next on the output formatting I think18:18
AlanBelland a #reprocess command, so you can do "#reprocess http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/13/%23ubuntu-meeting.txt" and it will replay the logs to itself taking minutes of each meeting and giving the URL to the formatted output18:20
pleia2sweet18:20
AlanBellthen Loco Team Portal integration (aka Loco Directory)18:21
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elkyAlanBell, that's great, much less confusing now :)21:45
AlanBell#startmeeting22:45
meetingologyMeeting started Mon Aug 29 22:45:14 2011 UTC.  The chair is AlanBell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.22:45
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AlanBellelky: want to try to #endmeeting, then op up and #endmeeting22:45
m4v#endmeeting22:51
AlanBellone is running22:51
AlanBellnow with ops22:51
AlanBell#startmeeting22:51
meetingologyAlanBell: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.22:51
m4v#endmeeting22:52
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meetingologyMeeting ended Mon Aug 29 22:52:37 2011 UTC.22:52
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AlanBell\o/22:52
m4vBWAHJAHAHA.,,, oh22:52
AlanBell:)22:53
elkyyay22:53
elkyAlanBell, sorry, at work22:54
AlanBellthats fine22:54
AlanBellI am off to bed now, but didn't want to leave it deployed but untested :)22:54
pleia2thanks AlanBell :)22:54
AlanBellthe #votesrequired command got deployed too22:55
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