[00:54] <Anastasius> topyli: Thanks for the tip.
[00:58] <elky> ...
[00:58] <\l> So I got a ban put on *!*pingas.org
[00:59] <bazhang> yep
[00:59] <\l> I would like it to be revised to *!?isaac@pingas.org
[00:59] <bazhang> funkyHat, ^
[00:59] <funkyHat> Yes I got your PM, thanks \l
[00:59] <\l> Alright, cool. I didn't know we couldn't say sex though. D:
[01:03] <bazhang> luigi, not very smart
[01:03] <luigi> bazhang: We can say it on the other three -offtopic channels I use.
 Yes, in fact, I would like to have sex with a pony now that I think about it.
[01:03] <bazhang> luigi, that was in #ubuntu
[01:04] <luigi> Okay, that one was not intentional in any way shape or form.
[01:04] <bazhang> luigi, that was in #ubuntu
[01:04] <luigi> Yes, I just left all channels.
[01:04] <luigi> I have an errant python script.
[01:04] <bazhang> and in any ubuntu namespace channel it's a no go
[01:04] <luigi> Yeah, I know.
[01:04] <luigi> Hence me leaving tout de suite.
[01:05] <luigi> That one was an honest mistake.
[01:05] <luigi> It happened in #archlinux, -offtopic, #gentoo, ##<3, ##networking, and ##linux
[01:07] <luigi> So, what happens now? I assume I'm +b on all #ubuntu channels.
[01:13] <bazhang> luigi, not understanding you; you have been around the ubuntu channels to know that is not acceptable
[01:14] <luigi> Alright, I am on a channel called ##<3. In said channel, I'm learning python. As a joke, I think "Oh, I'll write this great script that will say 'Yes, in fact, now that I think about it...' etc., etc. whenever someone highlights me in the channel." I botch the script, it's triggering in all channels at once and I panic, type /close over and over again very quickly.
[01:15] <luigi> And here we are.
[01:15] <luigi> I do accept that in #ubuntu-offtopic the ban made sense.
[01:15] <bazhang> and the +q in #ubuntu
[01:16] <luigi> But I implore you to look back at how I've been in #ubuntu for the month and a half I've been there and decide whether or not I'm telling the truth.
[01:16] <bazhang> which you posted after the +b in -ot, while you were here
[01:16] <luigi> Well, it happened in plenty of other channels here.
[01:17] <luigi> Including #archlinux.
[01:17] <bazhang> which is not #ubuntu
[01:17] <luigi> I explained what happened, they forgave me because I've been a big help there, all was okay.
[01:17] <luigi> I'm on #ubuntu because I like to help out, not because I want to annouce to the world I'm equestrisexual.
[01:17] <luigi> -ot is a different matter.
[01:18] <bazhang> you /amsg'd multiple channels with a script got banned from one, then pasted something further in #ubuntu
[01:18] <luigi> Pasted what further?
[01:18] <luigi> And what's /amsg?
 Yes, in fact, I would like to have sex with a pony now that I think about it.
[01:18] <luigi> Yes, that's what the script says.
[01:18] <luigi> No "further". That's the script.
[01:19] <luigi> I didn't mean to say "Yes, in fact, I would like to have sex with a pony now that I think about it." anywhere but ##<3.
[01:19] <bazhang> take a moment to read the guidelines and the code of conduct.
[01:19] <luigi> Instead I said it in MANY channels, apologized to all of them, explained what happened, and everything is okay now.
[01:19] <bazhang> !guidelines > luigi
[01:20] <bazhang> !coc > luigi
[01:20] <luigi> "For general chatter you can visit #ubuntu-offtopic (or #kubuntu-offtopic), but please be aware that there are limits to behaviour and subjects in there also."
[01:21] <luigi> What are they, prey tell?
[01:21] <bazhang> luigi, you wish to resolve the +q in #ubuntu ? yes or no
[01:21] <luigi> Yes.
[01:22] <luigi> Do I wish to resolve the +b in #ubuntu-offtopic? No.
[01:22] <bazhang> I'm about to step away, so please read the linked documents I sent you
[01:22] <luigi> I have.
[01:24] <bazhang> luigi, what #archlinux may or may not accept, or the various other channels has zero relevance here
[01:24] <luigi> bazhang: What do I need to do to get -q in #ubuntu?
[01:25] <luigi> What would you like me to do?
[01:25] <bazhang> luigi, to acknowledge that #ubuntu channels have different acceptable use policies than other channels, that following the guidelines and code of conduct is required, not optional
[01:26] <luigi> Yes. I understand that all #ubuntu channels have a different spread of acceptable discussio topics and policies. I understand I am required to follow the code of conduct.
[01:27] <luigi> I understand my script, though unintentional, was a violation of these policies and is the reason I am +q in #ubuntu.
[01:28] <luigi> I understand my ban in #ubuntu-offtopic is for a different, intentional act that I committed, and I do not wish to resolve that at this time.
[01:28] <luigi> I would, however, like to continue assisting others in the #ubuntu channel.
[01:30] <bazhang> luigi, +q has been removed, please keep it mind it will likely be a +b if that happens further
[01:30] <luigi> I understand.
[01:49] <luigi> Alright, *now* I'd like to talk about -b on #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:50] <elky> What made you change your mind?
[01:50] <luigi> Nothing, really. I decided it might be better to do this now rather than later.
[01:55] <elky> I'm being distracted by work so you'll need to wait for someone else.
[01:56] <luigi> Sure thing.
[02:00] <funkyHat> luigi: please come back in 2 days to discuss your ban in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[02:00] <luigi> Alright.
[02:01] <luigi> Although can't I discuss it with another op sooner?
[02:06] <bazhang> luigi, sure; come back in two days to discuss
[02:06] <luigi> Then the answer is no.
[02:06] <luigi> Alright.
[02:10] <luigi> No, actually. I'll be patient but I'd like to talk to an op that hasn't had any prior action with me.
[02:11] <bazhang> luigi, they are very unlikely to overrule the original op, as he has direct knowledge of the incident. please respect what has been asked of you and come back in 48 hrs time. Thanks.
[02:14] <luigi> I feel that for all of the time I've been here no one has listened to me. Instead of acknowledging anything I've said, you've just spewed the code of conduct at me. I've made it clear that I understand the code of conduct now. I would like to talk to someone who isn't either one of you about the situation and understand whether or not circumstance was understood. Part of the code of conduct is to be respectful to one another, and not listening or not making i
[02:14] <luigi> t apparent that I'm being understood (while it makes me frustruated) feels like a personal attack to me. I don't care about the -b right now, I'm perfectly happy to wait the two days, but my issue is not resolved.
[02:15] <luigi> "When we disagree, we consult others," so I would like to talk to a third party.
[02:15] <bazhang> and you have been politely asked to come back in two days. so Please do so. Thanks.
[02:16] <luigi> I am politely asking to talk to another op.
[02:16] <luigi> So please let me do so. Thanks.
[02:16] <bazhang> and you have.
[02:16] <luigi> No, I haven't.
[02:17] <luigi> This is an example of why I'm frustruated. I clearly said I would like to talk to an op that isn't "either one of you". You are included in that statement.
[02:18] <luigi> Instead of listening to context, you've quibbled over an issue of semantics (i.e. you are "another" op.)
[02:18] <luigi> So I'm going to patiently wait.
[02:18] <luigi> Thank you.
[02:42] <Luigi> Hi, jrib, are you can op I can talk to?
[02:42] <Luigi> Or are you busy?
[02:43] <jrib> Luigi: I have a few minutes, what's up?
[02:44] <Luigi> Alright, sigh... So I did a bad thing, and then another bad thing unintentionally. Both were things I shouldn't have done, but alas. I'm not bothered by the fact I'm banned in #ubuntu-offtopic. I was told to wait two days and come back to discuss it. I'm fine with that.
[02:44] <Luigi> What I'm bothered about is that this is the only set of ops that hasn't listened to my situation about the unintentional mishap, and that frustruates me.
[02:45] <jrib> Luigi: I'm not a -offtopic op
[02:45] <Luigi> I know. but you're an op.
[02:46] <Luigi> What happened is this: I talked in #ubuntu-offtopic about my equestriphilia. It wasn't an approriate subject, and was banned without a warning. While I am used to this being okay to mention, I now understand #ubuntu channels have different policies and what I did was a bad thing.
[02:47] <Luigi> However, at the same time, I was planning a little practical joke on my friends in another offtopic channel known as ##<3. People there had been teaching me python, and my equestriphilia was a common topic of ridicule in the channel, so I put the two together and made a python script that mentioned my desire for certain relations with ponies.
[02:48] <Luigi> This script went HAYWIRE. It triggered in all channels and seemed to go non-stop. I quickly closed every single channel I had open to stop saying inappropriate things in channels that shouldn't have such things in them.
[02:48] <Luigi> I went to each channel affected, apologized and explained, and the actions taken against me were lifted because of my standing in each channel as a helpful, on-topic member.
[02:49] <Luigi> However, upon entering this channel I feel that I have not been listened to, and instead the ops have been intentionally ignoring or attempting to villanize me.
[02:50] <Luigi> This happened just a few moments ago, when, after expressing that I felt my issue hadn't been resolved and that I would simply like to talk to another op to make sure someone would listen to the situation, the op quibbled with me over a minor semantics technicality in an attempt to get me to stop silently waiting here.
[02:51] <Luigi> So what I'd like to know, jrib, is whether or not you understand the circumstances that I've described. Not whether they justify some action, but if you listened to me.
[02:51] <Luigi> That's all I'd like to know.
[02:52] <jrib> Luigi: I don't understand something.  You were banned without warning from -ot and then ran your script, so why is your script relevant?
[02:52] <Luigi> The script triggered in #ubuntu, and I had a +q on Ubuntu I had asked to have lifted, since I only help people in that channel.
[02:53] <Luigi> It posted only once, which was very fortunate. In #archlinux it went off four times I think. :(
[02:53] <jrib> Luigi: so then you were banned from #ubuntu?
[02:53] <Luigi> No, I was +q in #ubuntu.
[02:53] <jrib> Luigi: ok, I listened.  What do you want to do now?
[02:53] <Luigi> It took a lot of hassle and I feel I recieved a lot of being ignored from the ops to get the +q lifted...
[02:54] <Luigi> Oh, nothing. I just wanted another op to listen. Thank you.
[02:54] <jrib> no problem
[02:54] <Luigi> I'll come back in two days to talk about -b in -offtopic
 is there an irc channel for ubuntu advantage?
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> advantage?
[04:23] <bazhang> http://www.canonical.com/enterprise-services/ubuntu-advantage
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> Oh, so that is what it's called.  Huh.
[04:23] <bazhang> says he's a new canonical employee
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> Plausible - nick sounds familiar.
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> I know Canonical runs their own private IRC server, so maybe on that.
[04:54] <elky> tonyyarusso, you're thinking of james westby who goes by james_w. This isn't who shows up in whowas for jamesw.
[04:55] <tonyyarusso> ooooh
[10:49] <jussi> I think !cloak needs an update, any suggestions?
[10:49] <jussi> !cloak
[10:49] <IdleOne> update in what sense?
[10:51] <jussi> I think we need to have something about ubuntu/member cloask in there - so its a bit more friendly to those who ask about cloaks as per -irc just before
  What's a good way to break into a server nowadays
[12:55] <bazhang> round 2
[12:55] <Pici> oh
[12:55] <Pici> thats a second time?
[12:55] <bazhang> yeppers
[13:37] <Myrtti> : to get any kind of cloak (ubuntu member or any other kind) you first need to set up your nick as detailed in this FAQ: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup - you MUST set an email address, AND group an alternate nick. For Ubuntu member cloaks, ask in #ubuntu-irc and provide your launchpad page, for unaffiliated ones, ask in #freenode.
[13:37] <Myrtti> jussi:
[13:38] <Pici> hm?
[16:03] <jussi> Myrtti: that looks good to me.
[16:46] <Pici> oCean: thanks, didn't want to have to ask again myself.
[16:47] <oCean> I don't think it's going to help though
[16:47] <oCean> he seems determined
[16:47] <oCean> oh
[16:47] <oCean> whatevs!
[17:16] <robinetd> Someone might want to take a look in -ot at that guy named monkey.
[18:16] <Pici> uh
[18:48] <genii-around> Pici: That'll teach me to look at -ot scroll before #u ....
[18:58] <h00k> nice job.
[19:12] <Pici> rww is my favorite operator of the week.
[19:14] <h00k> d'aw
[19:14] <h00k> Missed out *again*
[19:14] <oCean> heh
[19:23] <Myrtti> oh good grief
[19:23] <Myrtti> is someone on IRC while driving?
[19:23] <Myrtti> using text prediction?
[19:23]  * Myrtti facepalms repeatedly
[19:23] <Myrtti> just, no
[19:24] <h00k> O.O
[19:24] <h00k> I feel like I'm 5 seconds behind the action today.
[19:24] <oCean> h00k: then stay out of -ot
[19:25] <h00k> oCean: nonsense!
[19:30] <h00k> is smallfoot still banned?
[19:31] <oCean> I *think* so :)
[19:31] <Pici> regardless of whether he was, he should be.
[19:31] <h00k> rww got him.
[19:32] <h00k> I just wanted to check before I /abr'd again.
[19:32] <oCean> rww is on fire tonight
[19:32] <h00k> and with ubottu, I figured crowdsourcing would be quicker :(
[19:32] <rww> I HAVE ARRIVED
[19:32] <oCean> THERE HE IS
[19:32] <Myrtti> TADAAAAAAA
[19:32] <h00k> rww: backscroll...oh, nevermind ;)
[19:32]  * oCean cheers
[19:32] <rww> h00k: 'sokay, I'll read it in 30 minutes
[19:33] <h00k> rww: just skip the bad things I said about you
[19:33] <rww> h00k: it's okay, I know you're just jealous of my stunning good looks and availability
[19:34] <Pici> and non-marriedness
[19:34] <oCean> ha ha
[19:34] <rww> Pici: that's what "availability" was referring to, yes ;(
[19:34] <Pici> me too :(
[19:35] <oCean> rww: but I think smallfoot is back (Foxmaster>)
[19:35] <oCean> wait
[19:36] <rww> don't think so :P
[19:36] <Pici> probably not... as he is still in +1
[19:36]  * Pici is looking for that ban... slowly
[19:36] <oCean> right, I.. nvm
[19:36] <rww> they're not currently banned in +1
[19:37] <rww> (they are in -offtopic though, if that comes up)
[19:37] <Pici> darn
[19:39] <Pici> I have a suggestion I know some people won't like.
[19:39] <oCean> do it
[19:40] <rww> no, you can't requisition my cookies
[19:40] <Pici> #ubuntu-server split into a support channel and a server team channel.
[19:40] <rww> like #kubuntu and #kubuntu-devel?
[19:41] <oCean> Pici, so floodbot still didn't?
[19:41] <oCean> remove that is
[19:41] <Pici> oCean: yeah :(
[19:41] <oCean> darn
[19:43] <Pici> It just seems that -server is being used a lot lately by server team stuff and not much support. Plus with the "don't answer if you have nothing to say" 'policy' it often seems like people who do ask questions just get ignored by the folks working in there.
[19:44] <Pici> Which is definitely not the server team people's fault.
[21:12] <genii-around> ?msg memoserv list
[21:12] <genii-around> Bah
[21:13] <h00k> genii-around: DOING IT WRONG
[21:13] <genii-around> Yeah.
[21:14] <genii-around> Anyhow, gotta go again, see you guys tomorrow
[21:31] <h00k> Arilyn appears to be spewing random stuffs.
[21:44] <h00k> mrmist: can we help you?
[21:46] <mrmist> h00k: I hope not. That should be the end of my identify crisis
[21:46] <h00k> mrmist: oh, hi.
[21:46] <h00k> mrmist: I didn't see who you be.
[21:46] <h00k> carry on!
[21:46]  * mrmist carries on
[21:47] <h00k> hah
[21:49] <guntbert> hi, can someone put an end to Arilyn stating nonsense in #ubuntu, please?
[21:50] <h00k> guntbert :)
[21:50] <h00k> guntbert: please scroll up in that channel
[21:50] <h00k> guntbert: (took care of it)
[21:50] <guntbert> hi h00k, I saw that, but thought maybe a mute....
[21:51] <guntbert> anyways: bye, thx for all the service
[22:27] <Jordan_U> How should I / we respond to 15:24 < nekotreci> i am gonna kill muself
[22:28] <Jordan_U> (In #ubuntu)
[22:33] <h00k> Jordan_U: I can assist, we can see if something continues
[22:42] <h00k> Jordan_U: who was that?
[22:42] <Jordan_U> h00k: nekotreci
[22:44] <Jordan_U> urlin2u brought up that their "real name" from whois was 'kkk'. That in addition to the meth talk and swearing.
[22:47] <nekotreci> what password i for typeing this code in terminal "su"
[22:47] <nekotreci> it doesnt want to accept my requlat password
[22:47] <nekotreci> regular*
[22:48] <Jordan_U> nekotreci: Hi. You've been banned from #ubuntu for innapropriate language and topics (this is #ubuntu-ops).
[22:48] <Jordan_U> !guidelines | nekotreci
[22:49] <Jordan_U> nekotreci: Please change your "real name" in your IRC client to something other than 'kkk'.
[22:50] <Jordan_U> Danijel: Trying to bribe operators in PM will not get you anywhere.
[22:52] <Jordan_U> danijel: Your "ircname" is still 'kkk'.