[14:51] <jibel> bah, 4 crashes on login after a fresh desktop install :(
[14:53] <charlie-tca> jockey backend and oneconf?
[14:54] <jibel> jockey-backend, gnome-settings-daemon, unity-2d-panel and software-center
[14:55] <charlie-tca> Oh, yeah, I forgot about gnome-settings-daemon
[15:43] <jibel> Hey folks, Oneiric Beta 1 candidate are on the tracker waiting for testing!
[16:05] <bladernr> jibel:  no guarantees, but I'm actually going to try to do some ISO testing this round... syncing my mirror now
[16:12] <charlie-tca> bladernr: finally... ;)
[18:35] <chadadavis> Tracker is down. Was that a planned outage? Any news from the inside?
[19:10] <skaet> jibel, ^^ ?
[19:11] <skaet> chadadavis, seems to be working for me.   What are you seeing?  (if you're still seeing issues?)
[19:26] <chadadavis> skaet, was unreachable, verified from external site as well. But back now, thanks for asking. Back to testing ...
[19:55] <joru> Hi, i'm doing this testing for my very first time in life.
[19:55] <joru> How "good" or relieable is a virtual machine test of an iso compared to e.g. running from the actual physical dvd?
[19:59] <charlie-tca> joru: quite good, actually.
[20:00] <charlie-tca> You might have to install guest additions to get 3d though
[20:00] <charlie-tca> There are a lot of images that don't need 3d, too
[20:03] <joru> charlie-tca: hmm.. guest additions
[20:05] <joru> charlie-tca: ok, how do i know which need this?
[20:06] <charlie-tca> all Ubuntu images need 3d to see the default desktop, although it will fallback to 2d unity, which looks almost the same
[20:06] <charlie-tca> I would just run installations and check things out. If something fails, one of us will usually run the same test to see if it is valid.
[20:22] <joru> charlie-tca: ok, well i think i get all kinds of errors (lockups basically, mouse not moving) when i'm running in virtualbox why i'm a bit curious
[20:23] <joru> so i'm not sure which way to go
[20:48] <joru> charlie-tca: ok, so now i've started an iso from a usb flashdrive and i get a notification that theer is something wrong
[20:48] <joru> charlie-tca: and apport tells me to report this
[20:49] <joru> is the layout of that report a similar generation of files as e.g. this bug report?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/832603
[20:49] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 832603 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 2 other projects) "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in g_simple_async_result_complete() (affects: 108) (dups: 13) (heat: 458)" [High,Triaged]
[20:49] <joru> e.g. with all those files etc
[20:53] <skaet> Ubuntu desktop is rebuilding to pick up latest ubiquity changes,  other cd and dvd images will follow.
[20:58] <joru> bah, not easy to report bug when propriotary drivers needed for wireless :/  =)
[21:02] <joru> ah well, night :)
[21:03] <jibel> does anyone receive a notification when a new image is published to the tracker ?
[21:15] <chadadavis> jibel, not since alpha 3
[21:17] <jibel> chadadavis, thanks for confirming. I tried a password recovery and didn't received it either. I'll check what's wrong.
[21:39] <skaet> Ubuntu desktop images (20110829.1) with ubiquity update now posted on iso tracker.
[21:45] <hggdh> jibel: is the server ISO stable now?
[21:47] <jibel> hggdh, looks like server ISOs reached some kind of stability. Main issues are/were with ubiquity and desktop.
[21:47] <jibel> hggdh, good morning BTW
[21:48] <hggdh> jibel: it is already good afternoon here, so it must be 'good very late evening' for you ;-)
[21:49] <hggdh> jibel: I will look at Jenkins output; please tell me if anything is in need (was busy looking at kernel tests)
[21:50] <jibel> hggdh, I'll blame skaet because she posts images at 23:39
[21:50] <hggdh> jibel: oh certainly. She should have waited for, say, 01:00
[21:51]  * skaet notes that the server images were posted by the cron job before it was turned off.  ;)
[21:53] <jibel> hggdh, on server, I got a coredump of the upgrader (or screen?)  on amd64 but haven't been able to reproduce.
[21:53] <hggdh> jibel: what test?
[21:55]  * hggdh goes zsyncing all ISOs
[21:56] <hggdh> jibel: I am seriously considering lowering the timeout on the server (at least) jenkins jobs to 20 minutes. What is your take?
[21:57] <jibel> hggdh, upgrade natty to oneiric.
[21:57] <hggdh> jibel: will run it and see what happens
[21:57] <charlie-tca> jibel: I got a screen dump here along with a frozen keyboard the first time trying to upgrade 386 Xubuntu natty to oneiric
[21:58] <charlie-tca> I am running it again now to try and verify.
[22:00] <jibel> hggdh, but that's really a sanity check. not sure how upgrading a non-LTS release applies to server.
[22:00] <jibel> not good. All automated desktop tests failed :(
[22:00] <charlie-tca> o.O
[22:03] <hggdh> jibel: nevertheless you should not have gotten a coredump
[22:05] <jibel> hggdh, lowering the timeout to 20 minutes seems reasonable.
[22:06] <hggdh> jibel: OK, will update & propose for after beta1
[22:07] <skaet> jibel, new image that was just posted?...
[22:07]  * skaet wondering if its worth building the rest of the images...
[22:07] <jibel> charlie-tca, that would explain some strange reports I saw recently. There something to investigate here.
[22:08] <charlie-tca> It looked like a syslog dump on screen, and the keyboard froze completely. I had to power button off to get out of it
[22:09] <jibel> skaet, yes. Ubuntu 11.10 "Oneiric Ocelot" - Alpha amd64 (20110829.1)
[22:10] <skaet> Alpha is a typo on your part?  or a cut and paste of something that needs to change
[22:10] <charlie-tca> jibel: the other part of the dump is the upgrade went really fast, as compared to this next attempt, that is taking over 4 hours
[22:11]  * charlie-tca defines really fast as 2 1/2 hours to removing files, compared to over 4 hours now and still installing the upgrades
[22:12] <cjwatson> syslog dump doesn't sound like a ubiquity bug
[22:12] <cjwatson> freeze => kernel bug, in general
[22:13] <cjwatson> skaet: alpha -> beta is in the betaprocess
[22:13] <jibel> skaet, Alpha is a copy/paste
[22:13] <cjwatson> I'll adjust that now
[22:13] <skaet> thanks cjwatson
[22:15] <jibel> hggdh, about automated testing, I'm now able to catch the passphrase prompt and send the passphrase then boot an encrypted LVM automatically.
[22:15] <Daviey> jibel: how?
[22:15] <hggdh> jibel: YES!
[22:15] <hggdh> Daviey: the Power of the Mind
[22:15] <jibel> Daviey, how much for the info ?
[22:15] <hggdh> LOL
[22:16] <Daviey> jibel: serial console, and some expect() handling? :)
[22:16] <Daviey> or kvm ncurses such?
[22:16] <jibel> Daviey, how much ?
[22:17] <cjwatson> jibel: do your failures exhibit similar symptoms to charlie-tca's, or are these potentially separate issues?
[22:17] <jibel> cjwatson, it is separate. In my case it was a screen core dump.
[22:18] <jibel> I don't know the internals of do-release-upgrade but it seems to spawn a screen session and that part crashed.
[22:19] <Daviey> jibel: not much. :)
[22:25] <cjwatson> jibel: er, I thought we were talking about installation problems here.
[22:25] <cjwatson> upgrade problems => not my department (well, they are as foundations tech lead, but not at 11pm)
[22:31] <jibel> skaet, manual tests of desktop amd64 and i386 are okay. I'll check the automated tests tomorrow morning.
[22:32] <skaet> jibel,  thanks for that update.   ok,  will let the rest of the cd/dvd rebuilds continue.
[22:32] <jibel> Daviey, simply, the console is redirected to a unix socket and a monitor interacts with the VMs through it.
[22:33] <hggdh> Daviey: interesting -- I just installed a natty server from scratch, and then dist-upgraded (in preparation to a do-release-upgrade). So a new kernel got installed, etc
[22:35] <hggdh> and got a series of lines "FATAL: could not find /lib/modules/3.0.0-9/..."
[22:35] <hggdh> yeah. Kernel 3.0.0-9 on Natty
[22:38] <Daviey> hggdh: sucks to be you :)
[22:38] <hggdh> ah. Found it. I selected 'reuse /dev/disk1.' on d-i. So... standard install creates a /boot partition and a /. / is reformatted, but /boot is not
[22:39] <hggdh> Daviey: it does indeed
[22:39] <Daviey> ahh
[22:39] <hggdh> Will check on Oneiric, but it is probably still there. Bug...
[22:39] <Daviey> jibel: nice fix!  That might be useful for other more compex tests
[22:39] <Daviey> complex*
[22:44] <hggdh> Daviey: indeed, and we were hoping it would work. Now we can play quite elaborate tests (as long as it is under KVM
[22:44] <Daviey> \o/
[22:45] <Daviey> hggdh: What UTC time do you start tomorrow?
[22:48] <hggdh> Daviey: 08:00 UTC-0500
[22:48] <hggdh> so 1300 UTC
[22:48] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu natty to Oneiric 386 worked
[22:49] <skaet> thanks charlie-tca.
[22:49]  * skaet strikes that off her worry list for now
[22:49] <charlie-tca> me too
[22:53] <Daviey> hggdh: Are you able to ping me in your morning for a call about test cases?
[22:53] <skaet> Ubuntu DVD (20110829.1) posted.
[22:53] <hggdh> Daviey: of course I will
[22:53] <Daviey> hggdh: rocking!
[22:54] <hggdh> Daviey: we have been trying to get together for a while now... ;-)
[22:54] <Daviey> hggdh: Yeah.. it's not been easy :(
[22:55] <hggdh> Daviey: heh. This is the perfect understatement :-)
[23:20] <hggdh> no issues here on upgrade to O server
[23:21] <skaet> charlie-tca, xubuntu daily-live posted with ubiquity fix (20110829.1)
[23:22] <charlie-tca> Thank you
[23:22] <charlie-tca> will sync again shortly
[23:32] <Daviey> What happend with mvo's upgrader stuff?
[23:33] <Daviey> I'm kinda suprised we've not had any issues raised yet.