[00:00] <grantbow> not yet
[00:00] <DarkwingDuck> I don't think he has left just yet.
[00:00] <DarkwingDuck> speaking of... LOL
[00:00] <grantbow> 9 days before I leave
[00:00] <grantbow> great minds think alike
[00:30] <MarkDude> Are we having a meeting? Is grantbow in Africa yet? Where is the link to the pics from the picnic?
[00:32] <pleia2> MarkDude: you should read twitter more often :)
[00:32] <DarkwingDuck> LOL
[00:34]  * MarkDude is down with Twitter more for job related stuff. I am at social media overload.
[00:35] <MarkDude> helping people from range of hevy metal crazy to yoga instructors with it. I think the extremes have got to me. That and I still cant wrap my  mind around Dangerous G in Nairobi
[01:50]  * aaditya appears out of nowhere.
[01:50] <DarkwingDuck> Woah! Where you come from? :P
[01:51] <aaditya> I landed on this planet about 48 seconds ago!
[01:52] <aaditya> Is this the orange planet of unity? ;)
[01:53] <DarkwingDuck> Nawww, It's the Blue planet of Plasma :P:P
[01:54] <DarkwingDuck> This is sooooo strange.
[01:54] <DarkwingDuck> I have an AMD64 chipset in my desktop/server
[01:54] <DarkwingDuck> But, 64bit installs don't work on it...
[01:54] <aaditya> Ow, you did not just talk about that F word!
[01:54] <DarkwingDuck> 32 bit just did.
[01:55] <aaditya> That's weird. What's the error message?
[01:55] <DarkwingDuck> No, not the F word... the K word.
[01:55] <DarkwingDuck> It wont install... Just hangs.
[01:55] <DarkwingDuck> 18 separate times with different media/ISOs each time.
[01:57] <aaditya> Oh, that's not good.
[01:57] <DarkwingDuck> Then again... I think my desktop is about to go anyway.
[01:57] <aaditya> How old is it?
[01:58] <DarkwingDuck> I bought it when the AMD63 3200+ chip first came out... so, a while.
[01:58] <DarkwingDuck> *AMD64
[02:01] <pleia2> meeting time :)
[02:01] <pleia2> #startmeeting
[02:02]  * DarkwingDuck kicks his server out the door
[02:02] <pleia2> Agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11August28
[02:02] <pleia2> DarkwingDuck: you should probably chair since these are your items :)
[02:03] <DarkwingDuck> Well, before I added them today, there was no items :)
[02:03] <DarkwingDuck> Okay, Moving meeting information over to loco.ubuntu
[02:03] <DarkwingDuck> IIRC the Community Council along with Ubuntu at large likes using the loco.ubuntu for information.
[02:04] <DarkwingDuck> As far as I can tell, it seems like a nice little tool and if people actually go to the page and click "Attend" we can have a count of who is here and who isn't
[02:04] <MarkDude> Like a like or +1 button?
[02:05] <DarkwingDuck> I thought there was...
[02:05] <DarkwingDuck> Looking at the meeting I have setup for the 11th.
[02:05] <pleia2> we did a trial of this (and still used the wiki too) a few meetings ago: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-california/120/detail/
[02:05] <pleia2> unfortunately for our past two meetings the loco directory has been completely down due to server problems, so I'm not entirely confident we want to rely upon it exclusively yet :\
[02:06]  * DarkwingDuck nods
[02:06] <pleia2> they claim it's fixed, but I'd rather see prolonged evidence of this
[02:06] <DarkwingDuck> I'll set it up for the next few meetings and see how it goes.
[02:06] <DarkwingDuck> Anyone have any issues/problems with this?
[02:06] <DarkwingDuck> Who is here anyway?
[02:06] <pleia2> DarkwingDuck: there is a way to add an agenda item, but not mark yourself as attending
[02:07] <aaditya> o/
[02:07] <MarkDude> \o
[02:07] <DarkwingDuck> pleia2, Yes, I say that... Must add a +1 attended button.
[02:07] <eps> "Bother," said Pooh.
[02:07] <DarkwingDuck> say/saw
[02:07] <aaditya> Ubuntu's table was the shiniest at the Picnic!
[02:07] <pleia2> DarkwingDuck: submit a bug? :)
[02:07] <pleia2> thanks aaditya :)
[02:07] <aaditya> Wait, are we past announcements?
[02:07] <DarkwingDuck> pleia2, Or, write the module and submit it :D
[02:08] <DarkwingDuck> Have not gotten there.
[02:08] <MarkDude> Ubuntu *did* have the nicest looking table
[02:08] <pleia2> DarkwingDuck: yeah, you do that
[02:08] <MarkDude> It most certainly rocked
[02:08] <DarkwingDuck> Why is server installing -generic-pae and not -server???????
[02:08] <pleia2> I like the idea of trying to use the loco directory for meetings, alongside the wiki for a couple months
[02:08] <DarkwingDuck> Sorry
[02:08] <pleia2> see how it goes
[02:09] <DarkwingDuck> Okay, I have setup for the 11th then.
[02:09] <pleia2> DarkwingDuck: should probably set yourself as chair though, that's solano stroll day and that's until 6PM
[02:09] <eps> I think it's too much trouble / making extra work for little to no benefit / confusing for attendees
[02:09] <pleia2> not sure jdeslip and I will be home in time
[02:09] <pleia2> eps: the wiki is easier?
[02:09] <DarkwingDuck> http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-california/196/detail/
[02:09] <DarkwingDuck> When/if the wiki is working
[02:09] <pleia2> eps: a lot of people can't even log into the wiki :(
[02:09] <DarkwingDuck> I like loco. because of the tracking value. :D
[02:10]  * DarkwingDuck is a sucker for stats and tracking
[02:10] <eps> The wiki is a "must run" service. The loco directory is not.
[02:10] <pleia2> "must run"?
[02:10] <DarkwingDuck> ...
[02:10]  * DarkwingDuck is confused.
[02:10] <eps> Ubuntu's reputation depends on the wiki working. Nobody cares about the poor little locos.
[02:11] <pleia2> eps: they are run by the same server admins and are both very valuable resources, the wiki is down more often than the loco directory
[02:11] <pleia2> I mean, now that the wiki has been upgraded it has improved, but it was really horrible stability wise for almost a year
[02:11] <pleia2> so I don't really understand how you can say "Ubuntu's reputation depends on it" - it didn't this year :)
[02:12] <eps> The wiki is the public face of Ubuntu. loco is the other end of the beast.
[02:12] <DarkwingDuck> I still get massive errors trying to save to the wiki
[02:12] <DarkwingDuck> but, I digress...
[02:12] <pleia2> a lot of people have trouble with wiki syntax too, loco directory you just click "add agenda item" and don't need to worry about formatting or edit conflicts
[02:13] <DarkwingDuck> Anything else on the l.u.c?
[02:13] <eps> Did it ever occur to you that some people consider tracking a negative?
[02:13] <DarkwingDuck> How?
[02:13] <DarkwingDuck> Tracking our events, meetings and everything is key to understanding out exposure
[02:13] <pleia2> eps: we have to have our meetings be public
[02:13] <pleia2> they are tracked already, that is not changing
[02:14] <DarkwingDuck> It's just the work put into the tracking :)
[02:14] <pleia2> yeah, work done by me
[02:14] <DarkwingDuck> Yeah, I should start doing more along that line Lys sorry :.
[02:14] <DarkwingDuck> :/
[02:14] <DarkwingDuck> *Lyz
[02:14] <DarkwingDuck> dang, I can't type tonight.
[02:14] <DarkwingDuck> Okay, next item...
[02:15] <DarkwingDuck> I am please to be hosting a Global Jam here in San Diego
[02:15] <pleia2> woohoo san diego
[02:15] <DarkwingDuck> It will be in the evening of the 3rd.
[02:16] <DarkwingDuck> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/1198/detail/
[02:16] <DarkwingDuck> IT will be at Cafe Libertalia
[02:16] <DarkwingDuck> We will be doing Upgrading and Testing at the Jam.
[02:17] <DarkwingDuck> Assuming that I can get my server back online...
[02:17] <DarkwingDuck> We will have a local mirror so we don't gunk up the bandwidth.
[02:17] <DarkwingDuck> We will also have something online.
[02:17] <pleia2> cool
[02:18] <DarkwingDuck> So, we get a Jam. :)
[02:18] <DarkwingDuck> Any questions/comments?
[02:19] <DarkwingDuck> Okay, Announcements?
[02:19] <DarkwingDuck> aaditya, Did you have something?
[02:19] <pleia2> the linux picnic was awesome!
[02:19] <DarkwingDuck> Woot!
[02:19] <pleia2> I uploaded photos of our table to our flickr account: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ubuntu-us-ca/sets/72157627534061734/
[02:20] <pleia2> and blogged about it here: http://princessleia.com/journal/?p=4949
[02:20] <MarkDude> Generations henceforth shall speak of the glorious picnic
[02:20] <pleia2> fedora had a table this year too :) they had streamers and balloons and OLPCs
[02:20] <pleia2> fedora: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/6087641260/
[02:21] <MarkDude> Well fedora was more trying to buy folks love
[02:21] <pleia2> people do love those little green laptops
[02:21] <MarkDude> Ubuntu had genuine awesomeness at the table
[02:21] <aaditya> DarkwingDuck: just the picnic, that's all!
[02:21] <MarkDude> I liked the animals
[02:21] <pleia2> :)
[02:21] <pleia2> Solano Stroll is coming up on September 11th: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/SolanoStroll2011
[02:21] <DarkwingDuck> Oh, another note...
[02:22] <DarkwingDuck> Awesome!
[02:22] <pleia2> jdeslip and I have started getting our "need stuff" lists together
[02:22] <pleia2> oops, one error on that page, fixing
[02:22] <pleia2> proper loco directory link is http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/1208/detail/
[02:22] <DarkwingDuck> San Diego, starting the 20th will be holding b-monthly Ubuntu Hours.
[02:23] <DarkwingDuck> *bi-monthly
[02:23] <MarkDude> Oh, let it be noted I got those streamers from the Win7 party from along time ago. Nothing like taking sumthin' from the machine- to change the machine
[02:23] <DarkwingDuck> Twice a month rather
[02:23] <pleia2> cool
[02:24] <eps> How many cookies does that recipe yield?
[02:24] <pleia2> eps: "These recipes made about two dozen Android cookies, I doubled the recipe to get the four dozen I brought to the picnic."
[02:25] <pleia2> any other announcements?
[02:25] <DarkwingDuck> Any comments/concerns?
[02:25] <pleia2> oh, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek is coming up Sept 5-9
[02:26] <pleia2> that's over in #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat
[02:26] <DarkwingDuck> Oh, and for those Kubuntu/KDE users out there...
[02:26] <DarkwingDuck> I'll be hosting a Bug Jam and a Doc Jam online
[02:26] <DarkwingDuck> I'll announce those on the ML
[02:27] <DarkwingDuck> When I hash out the timing.
[02:27] <DarkwingDuck> Anyway, if there is nothing else...
[02:27] <DarkwingDuck> Thank you all for attending.
[02:27] <DarkwingDuck> #endmeeting
[02:27] <pleia2> thanks everyone
[02:28]  * pleia2 goes to spend last hour with MJ before he goes on trip (*sniffle*)
[02:28]  * DarkwingDuck is going to fight with his server some more
[02:30] <MarkDude> aaditya: you were epically funny today- I  told a few people - my Grandma lost it laughing
[02:31] <aaditya> I try. :P
[06:05] <philipballew> how up to date are ubuntu's restricted drivers?
[06:18] <DarkwingDuck> For?
[06:20] <philipballew> my desktop DarkwingDuck
[06:20] <philipballew> nvidia gforce
[06:20] <DarkwingDuck> ahhh, video drivers.
[06:20] <DarkwingDuck> They work well for mone.
[06:20] <DarkwingDuck> *Mine
[06:20] <DarkwingDuck> Natty or Oneiric?
[06:20] <philipballew> new montor doesnt show an immage but only static. though the old crt monitor showed it just fine. its natty
[06:21] <philipballew> it might be the deskop inself. but it worked right before i moved. so i figure its the driver.
[06:22] <DarkwingDuck> Looks like there is a gap...
[06:22] <DarkwingDuck> 32 or 64?
[06:22] <philipballew> 32
[06:22] <philipballew> it also didnt work on 10.04
[06:22] <DarkwingDuck> http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
[06:22] <philipballew> odd as it worked with my crt
[06:23] <philipballew> i can just ssh into it probably and install that i guess
[07:28] <philipballew> so how did the meeting go?
[16:38] <kdub> DarkwingDuck_: are we starting those ubuntuhours starting 9/6?
[16:38] <pleia2> the loco directory says the 20th
[22:17] <philipballew> hey DarkwingDuck_ , did you get a chance yet to chack out cafe hillcrast yet?
[22:47] <kdub> i thought we had it 'reserved' or something
[22:48] <kdub> and, i'm curious as to whether thats for the jam, or for the bimonthly
[22:48] <kdub> philipballew: ^^
[22:49] <philipballew> oh kdub DarkwingDuck_ said he found a location for both
[22:49] <kdub> ah, cool
[22:49] <philipballew> heres the link
[22:50] <philipballew> http://www.cafelibertalia.com/wordpress/
[22:50] <philipballew> kdub,
[22:51] <kdub> neat, pretty decent location
[22:52] <bkerensa> If you live in the Bay Area avoid BART tonight
[22:52] <bkerensa> :D
[22:52] <pleia2> and every monday night for the foreseeable future
[22:52] <philipballew> seems good. he seems to want to plan the logistics. thaat is a really nice area
[22:53] <kdub> philipballew: you can also bike-ride up there via the OB bike path, i think
[22:53] <kdub> gets you through the I-5/I-8 interchange mess to hillcrest
[22:55] <philipballew> I might just ride. the hassle of driving on the freeway's compared to a Saturday bike ride seem to favor the bike. it gets out at 7 so there's still time to do something saturday night kdub
[22:56] <kdub> oh, i meant for the weekly things
[22:56] <philipballew> ahh. well yeah. as well. that should be pretty fun. I think well just have to see what happens. you gonna be able to make it saturday?
[22:57] <kdub>  saturday, probably not :P
[22:57] <philipballew> no worries :)
[23:31] <pleia2> philipballew: haha, great blog post :)
[23:34] <philipballew> hey! thank you :)
[23:34] <philipballew> pleia2, I wanted to make it worth reading. I hope I did :)